September 10, 2025 • 9 mins
Tonight on The Huddle, Jack Tame from ZB's Saturday Mornings and Q&A and Tim Wilson from the Maxim Institute joined in on a discussion about the following issues of the day - and more!
What did we think of the Tākuta Ferris video? What does this mean for Labour's political future?
New information about the Phillips hideout suggests they've had help until very recently according to police who are now trying to track down accomplices. What do we make of this?
It's been revealed Luxon and Albanese's helicopter mountain trip cost $44,000. Are we upset with this?
Would we pay $4,000 for an iPhone?
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
The Huddle with New Zealand Southby's International Realty. Find your
one of a kind.
Speaker 2 (00:05):
On the Huddle of Us. This evening we have Jack Tame,
host of Q and A Saturday Mornings on ZB as
well and Tim Wilson of the Maximu Institute. Hello you too,
right Jack? Did you watch the tacoota Ferius video?
Speaker 3 (00:16):
No? No, I didn't. I I saw the post. Well
I don't.
Speaker 2 (00:20):
Okay, stop stop talking, stop talking. Have you watched it, Tim?
Speaker 4 (00:25):
Yeah, I watched. I watched enough of it to win? Yeah,
I guess number one. The hoodie, the gray sort of monochrome,
it's all very auld.
Speaker 2 (00:35):
Of like did it give you? I've hot boxed my
lounge and am now vibing vibes.
Speaker 4 (00:42):
When you say hot box, do you translate place?
Speaker 1 (00:44):
Oh?
Speaker 2 (00:44):
I just smoked a bunch of cones and I and
I think this sounds intellectual, but it really doesn't.
Speaker 4 (00:51):
No, I didn't look. Maybe I didn't get enough of
it to to paint that picture. I thought when when
he when he said he said, you know, these these
these the ethnicities helping remove a mari. You know what
ke mauri out. It's like, isn't They're just.
Speaker 2 (01:08):
Trying to they're just trying to help kick one Mary
out to replace him with another Maori. So that's not
that bad. I would have thought, Jack, you need to
go watch this video.
Speaker 4 (01:15):
It's you do the hot box test. Come on eight minutes.
Speaker 2 (01:23):
You've got eight minutes when you're trying to get the
baby to sleep and you know that the line in
the crib.
Speaker 4 (01:27):
And with one hand, and you watch the video.
Speaker 2 (01:31):
You're doing that thing where you're sitting them out to
make sure that they're a sleepy. To check your headphones
and have a watch of Takoota. It's very dark. It's
not going to shine much of a light.
Speaker 3 (01:39):
Yeah, I don't know. I mean I think you hit
the nail on the head. This is just going to
be I think like actually one of it's not the
defining issue for the left block heading into next year,
like there's a lot of fuss over later tax teams.
I actually think getting to some sort of memorandum of
understanding with Tippati Maori about how they're going to approach
this election try and keep you know, those kind of
(02:00):
soft labor national voters on site. I think it's going
to be a monumental challenge and actually, nothing I've really
seen from someone to Party Mary's and maybe maybe that
apology from Divinardi Wpaka and I would be waited. He
last week we constitute this. But I've seen very little
from the Party Mali that shows that they're interested in
kind of toning things down.
Speaker 5 (02:20):
They see I disagree with you because I reckon.
Speaker 2 (02:23):
The two apologies in the space of two what like
a week is a very clear indication that they're prepared
to tone it down because Jack, they've never apologized for anything.
Speaker 3 (02:32):
And what about the eight minute video and receipt.
Speaker 2 (02:34):
But he's gone off the he's gone off the reservation.
Isn't he like.
Speaker 1 (02:39):
It down?
Speaker 4 (02:40):
Is this? Is this an internal issue where the two
leaders trying to tone it down but they haven't actually
calmed it with the rank and file.
Speaker 2 (02:48):
Well, I think yes, But I think they may have
commed it with the rank and file. But the rank
and file is very used to being radical activist and
giving you the finger, and so they might be giving
the finger.
Speaker 5 (02:58):
Bo's true and offer a theory and that is that
maybe if all of that is true, and it's a
big that maybe to Party Maldi's co leaders are more.
Speaker 3 (03:08):
Interested in being in government than the people a little
further down the list rank and that maybe they see themselves.
There's potentially been cabinet ministers, whereas someone like harkeet to
Fairs is going to go. You know what, I'm never
going to be in cabinet, certainly not anytime soon. I'm
not going to be a minister. So I'm going to
do what's working for us so far. I'm going to
I'm going to throw a bit of red meat to
(03:29):
my supporters and say what I want to say, whatever
the time of the morning.
Speaker 1 (03:33):
Yeah, I think you might be right there the huddle
with New Zealand Southeby's International Realty, the global leader and
luxury real Estate.
Speaker 2 (03:41):
All right, you're back with the huddle, Tim Wilson and
Jack Tame. Tim, are you happy to see Tom Phillips's
accomplices tracked down and charged.
Speaker 4 (03:49):
Absolutely, they're complicit with the with the kidnapping which and
particularly this crime against against the kids. So you've participated
in a crime. You've got to face the full effect
of the law. That seems very straightforward and interesting your
conversation with Blantsper The police seem quite confident that that
they have a strong evidential base for pursuing these people,
(04:11):
So I'd be worried.
Speaker 2 (04:12):
Yeah, Jack, One of the arguments has been made to
me on the text machine is that these people were
simply trying to keep the kids fed because they would
never have been able to talk him out of coming
out of the bush.
Speaker 3 (04:22):
What do you think, Yeah, I don't think that holds
master as far as I'm concerned, I mean, like considers,
the police seem pretty confident. They seem very sure actually
that he's been receiving assistance, and you know, I think,
you know, I think they should face the full extent
of whatever charges they deserve. You know, I think as
(04:42):
sinces have been complicit, and look, there might have been
other options available that they could have gone to police
if they were really concerned about the children being feed
or something like that, that there were other options to pursue.
I'm not saying it wasn't a complex situation, but as
far as I'm concerned, all of those who had assisted
and should be brought to justice.
Speaker 1 (05:01):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (05:01):
Now, Tim, how do you feel about Christopher Luxan spending
forty four thousand dollars on his pavlova on the mountain
date with Alban Easy.
Speaker 4 (05:09):
I thought if you go for a trip and a chopper,
a couple of shoppers with your rich big brother to
eat a food that he claims to have invented. Anyway,
then he's got to pay. This is just this is
not fair, Am I right? Am I? Right?
Speaker 2 (05:23):
No, that's ridiculous because he's come to your house. So
if he's come to your house, you're obviously like you're
laying it on, right.
Speaker 4 (05:31):
I think I think your sense of we paid what
was it, fifty almost fifty four grand for a couple
of shoppers that there was no there was no bump
from us. You know, there's no social media, they weren't
followed by the media. So for all of that sort
of budget, you need to see a benefit for that spend,
(05:51):
and we're not seeing that.
Speaker 2 (05:53):
Yeah, I reckon, I reconject. My feeling is they should
have if they were going to go like semi bigs,
they should have gone completely big and just taken media
up and stuff and get absolute bangs for buck.
Speaker 3 (06:01):
What do you think, Yeah, well, I mean this is
what this is what I don't understand. I mean, first
of all, this government sells themselves on being kind of,
you know, studious minders of the public, finances. We are
facing extremely constrained economic conditions, So forty four thousand dollars
for a couple of helicopters for some pictures that only
really ended up on the Prime minister's social media feed.
(06:24):
I'm not saying that Albanese should be guaranteeing that he's
going to make Instagram posts or anything like that, but
from what I understand, there was no real coordination with
the Australian media. So what is the point of this
entire thing. If these pecks are only going to be
going out to Christopher Luxen's Instagram followers and the domestic
audience in New Zealand, what is the point of spending
forty four thousand dollars for a pretty cheesy little photo
(06:46):
of I don't think it represents GOODBETI and I think
it's kind of anathema to the government's self reported values.
Speaker 2 (06:53):
Time I heard you draw your breath into say something.
Speaker 4 (06:56):
I'm just trying to I'm just trying to figure out
was I thought it was twenty seven k per chopper,
so twenty seven times too.
Speaker 3 (07:02):
No, no, no.
Speaker 2 (07:03):
I think we originally thought it was twenty seven thousand
dollars and now we found forty four thousand.
Speaker 4 (07:08):
It doesn't make any sense.
Speaker 2 (07:09):
Because the chopper, somebody says to me, should only be
about twelve thousand dollars in total, which means the padlover
was thirty thousand dollars. And that doesn't make any sense,
does it.
Speaker 4 (07:17):
It's not.
Speaker 3 (07:18):
It's not a world that I.
Speaker 2 (07:20):
Really chopper ride cost you Jack exactly.
Speaker 5 (07:26):
Hey, speaking, you can go.
Speaker 4 (07:27):
You can go in New York for three hundred and
a chopper, So there you go. Yeah, but you don't
get a pavlover afterwards, you know from.
Speaker 2 (07:35):
Your high flying life. Okay, I've got one for you guys. Okay, Jack,
would you have you? First of all, have you seen
how much the new iPhone costs.
Speaker 3 (07:43):
I've seen how much the new base model costs.
Speaker 4 (07:45):
No even dollars.
Speaker 2 (07:47):
Yeah, but the top of the range is four and
a half thousand New Zealand dollars. What would you pay
that much for a cell phone?
Speaker 3 (07:54):
Ah? Well, is that better? Or I suppose like it's eleven,
it's eleven, Christopher.
Speaker 4 (08:00):
And Jack Jacket takes you up in the air and
then it bakes you. It bakes you a pavlover as well,
and then feed it to Anthony alban Easy.
Speaker 3 (08:09):
Yeah, absolutely not, although I would say that, like, I'm
currently on a phone that's I think six years old,
and if I think about the amount of time I've
sent on the phone relative to what I paid for,
and it wasn't the top of the line model or
anything like that, I do think that you probably get
pretty good value.
Speaker 2 (08:25):
I mean, it's still nine hundred dollars a year for
a phone. I wouldn't pay that nine hundred dollars a
year for.
Speaker 4 (08:30):
A phone for four and a half case. Not a phone,
it's a Suzuki Swerft. I've got it for sale. Just
give me a call.
Speaker 2 (08:39):
Never want to miss an opportunity, guys, Thank you very much,
Jack Tame, Tim Wilson, I huddle this evening year. So
four and a half thousand dollars two thousand pounds, four
and a half thousand dollars. The most expensive Apple iPhone ever. Well,
obviously I didn't have to say iPhone. That was redundant.
All Apple phones or iPhones, aren't they. It's the iPhone
seventeen Promax. It has advanced processes and redesigned hammers and
(09:00):
two terabytes of storage. Everything everything you've ever dreamed for,
dreamed
Speaker 1 (09:04):
Of For more from Hither Duplessy Allen Drive, listen live
to news talks it'd be from four pm weekdays, or
follow the podcast on iHeartRadio
The Huddle with New Zealand Southby's International Realty. Find your
one of a kind.
Speaker 2 (00:05):
On the Huddle of Us. This evening we have Jack Tame,
host of Q and A Saturday Mornings on ZB as
well and Tim Wilson of the Maximu Institute. Hello you too,
right Jack? Did you watch the tacoota Ferius video?
Speaker 3 (00:16):
No? No, I didn't. I I saw the post. Well
I don't.
Speaker 2 (00:20):
Okay, stop stop talking, stop talking. Have you watched it, Tim?
Speaker 4 (00:25):
Yeah, I watched. I watched enough of it to win? Yeah,
I guess number one. The hoodie, the gray sort of monochrome,
it's all very auld.
Speaker 2 (00:35):
Of like did it give you? I've hot boxed my
lounge and am now vibing vibes.
Speaker 4 (00:42):
When you say hot box, do you translate place?
Speaker 1 (00:44):
Oh?
Speaker 2 (00:44):
I just smoked a bunch of cones and I and
I think this sounds intellectual, but it really doesn't.
Speaker 4 (00:51):
No, I didn't look. Maybe I didn't get enough of
it to to paint that picture. I thought when when
he when he said he said, you know, these these
these the ethnicities helping remove a mari. You know what
ke mauri out. It's like, isn't They're just.
Speaker 2 (01:08):
Trying to they're just trying to help kick one Mary
out to replace him with another Maori. So that's not
that bad. I would have thought, Jack, you need to
go watch this video.
Speaker 4 (01:15):
It's you do the hot box test. Come on eight minutes.
Speaker 2 (01:23):
You've got eight minutes when you're trying to get the
baby to sleep and you know that the line in
the crib.
Speaker 4 (01:27):
And with one hand, and you watch the video.
Speaker 2 (01:31):
You're doing that thing where you're sitting them out to
make sure that they're a sleepy. To check your headphones
and have a watch of Takoota. It's very dark. It's
not going to shine much of a light.
Speaker 3 (01:39):
Yeah, I don't know. I mean I think you hit
the nail on the head. This is just going to
be I think like actually one of it's not the
defining issue for the left block heading into next year,
like there's a lot of fuss over later tax teams.
I actually think getting to some sort of memorandum of
understanding with Tippati Maori about how they're going to approach
this election try and keep you know, those kind of
(02:00):
soft labor national voters on site. I think it's going
to be a monumental challenge and actually, nothing I've really
seen from someone to Party Mary's and maybe maybe that
apology from Divinardi Wpaka and I would be waited. He
last week we constitute this. But I've seen very little
from the Party Mali that shows that they're interested in
kind of toning things down.
Speaker 5 (02:20):
They see I disagree with you because I reckon.
Speaker 2 (02:23):
The two apologies in the space of two what like
a week is a very clear indication that they're prepared
to tone it down because Jack, they've never apologized for anything.
Speaker 3 (02:32):
And what about the eight minute video and receipt.
Speaker 2 (02:34):
But he's gone off the he's gone off the reservation.
Isn't he like.
Speaker 1 (02:39):
It down?
Speaker 4 (02:40):
Is this? Is this an internal issue where the two
leaders trying to tone it down but they haven't actually
calmed it with the rank and file.
Speaker 2 (02:48):
Well, I think yes, But I think they may have
commed it with the rank and file. But the rank
and file is very used to being radical activist and
giving you the finger, and so they might be giving
the finger.
Speaker 5 (02:58):
Bo's true and offer a theory and that is that
maybe if all of that is true, and it's a
big that maybe to Party Maldi's co leaders are more.
Speaker 3 (03:08):
Interested in being in government than the people a little
further down the list rank and that maybe they see themselves.
There's potentially been cabinet ministers, whereas someone like harkeet to
Fairs is going to go. You know what, I'm never
going to be in cabinet, certainly not anytime soon. I'm
not going to be a minister. So I'm going to
do what's working for us so far. I'm going to
I'm going to throw a bit of red meat to
(03:29):
my supporters and say what I want to say, whatever
the time of the morning.
Speaker 1 (03:33):
Yeah, I think you might be right there the huddle
with New Zealand Southeby's International Realty, the global leader and
luxury real Estate.
Speaker 2 (03:41):
All right, you're back with the huddle, Tim Wilson and
Jack Tame. Tim, are you happy to see Tom Phillips's
accomplices tracked down and charged.
Speaker 4 (03:49):
Absolutely, they're complicit with the with the kidnapping which and
particularly this crime against against the kids. So you've participated
in a crime. You've got to face the full effect
of the law. That seems very straightforward and interesting your
conversation with Blantsper The police seem quite confident that that
they have a strong evidential base for pursuing these people,
(04:11):
So I'd be worried.
Speaker 2 (04:12):
Yeah, Jack, One of the arguments has been made to
me on the text machine is that these people were
simply trying to keep the kids fed because they would
never have been able to talk him out of coming
out of the bush.
Speaker 3 (04:22):
What do you think, Yeah, I don't think that holds
master as far as I'm concerned, I mean, like considers,
the police seem pretty confident. They seem very sure actually
that he's been receiving assistance, and you know, I think,
you know, I think they should face the full extent
of whatever charges they deserve. You know, I think as
(04:42):
sinces have been complicit, and look, there might have been
other options available that they could have gone to police
if they were really concerned about the children being feed
or something like that, that there were other options to pursue.
I'm not saying it wasn't a complex situation, but as
far as I'm concerned, all of those who had assisted
and should be brought to justice.
Speaker 1 (05:01):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (05:01):
Now, Tim, how do you feel about Christopher Luxan spending
forty four thousand dollars on his pavlova on the mountain
date with Alban Easy.
Speaker 4 (05:09):
I thought if you go for a trip and a chopper,
a couple of shoppers with your rich big brother to
eat a food that he claims to have invented. Anyway,
then he's got to pay. This is just this is
not fair, Am I right? Am I? Right?
Speaker 2 (05:23):
No, that's ridiculous because he's come to your house. So
if he's come to your house, you're obviously like you're
laying it on, right.
Speaker 4 (05:31):
I think I think your sense of we paid what
was it, fifty almost fifty four grand for a couple
of shoppers that there was no there was no bump
from us. You know, there's no social media, they weren't
followed by the media. So for all of that sort
of budget, you need to see a benefit for that spend,
(05:51):
and we're not seeing that.
Speaker 2 (05:53):
Yeah, I reckon, I reconject. My feeling is they should
have if they were going to go like semi bigs,
they should have gone completely big and just taken media
up and stuff and get absolute bangs for buck.
Speaker 3 (06:01):
What do you think, Yeah, well, I mean this is
what this is what I don't understand. I mean, first
of all, this government sells themselves on being kind of,
you know, studious minders of the public, finances. We are
facing extremely constrained economic conditions, So forty four thousand dollars
for a couple of helicopters for some pictures that only
really ended up on the Prime minister's social media feed.
(06:24):
I'm not saying that Albanese should be guaranteeing that he's
going to make Instagram posts or anything like that, but
from what I understand, there was no real coordination with
the Australian media. So what is the point of this
entire thing. If these pecks are only going to be
going out to Christopher Luxen's Instagram followers and the domestic
audience in New Zealand, what is the point of spending
forty four thousand dollars for a pretty cheesy little photo
(06:46):
of I don't think it represents GOODBETI and I think
it's kind of anathema to the government's self reported values.
Speaker 2 (06:53):
Time I heard you draw your breath into say something.
Speaker 4 (06:56):
I'm just trying to I'm just trying to figure out
was I thought it was twenty seven k per chopper,
so twenty seven times too.
Speaker 3 (07:02):
No, no, no.
Speaker 2 (07:03):
I think we originally thought it was twenty seven thousand
dollars and now we found forty four thousand.
Speaker 4 (07:08):
It doesn't make any sense.
Speaker 2 (07:09):
Because the chopper, somebody says to me, should only be
about twelve thousand dollars in total, which means the padlover
was thirty thousand dollars. And that doesn't make any sense,
does it.
Speaker 4 (07:17):
It's not.
Speaker 3 (07:18):
It's not a world that I.
Speaker 2 (07:20):
Really chopper ride cost you Jack exactly.
Speaker 5 (07:26):
Hey, speaking, you can go.
Speaker 4 (07:27):
You can go in New York for three hundred and
a chopper, So there you go. Yeah, but you don't
get a pavlover afterwards, you know from.
Speaker 2 (07:35):
Your high flying life. Okay, I've got one for you guys. Okay, Jack,
would you have you? First of all, have you seen
how much the new iPhone costs.
Speaker 3 (07:43):
I've seen how much the new base model costs.
Speaker 4 (07:45):
No even dollars.
Speaker 2 (07:47):
Yeah, but the top of the range is four and
a half thousand New Zealand dollars. What would you pay
that much for a cell phone?
Speaker 3 (07:54):
Ah? Well, is that better? Or I suppose like it's eleven,
it's eleven, Christopher.
Speaker 4 (08:00):
And Jack Jacket takes you up in the air and
then it bakes you. It bakes you a pavlover as well,
and then feed it to Anthony alban Easy.
Speaker 3 (08:09):
Yeah, absolutely not, although I would say that, like, I'm
currently on a phone that's I think six years old,
and if I think about the amount of time I've
sent on the phone relative to what I paid for,
and it wasn't the top of the line model or
anything like that, I do think that you probably get
pretty good value.
Speaker 2 (08:25):
I mean, it's still nine hundred dollars a year for
a phone. I wouldn't pay that nine hundred dollars a
year for.
Speaker 4 (08:30):
A phone for four and a half case. Not a phone,
it's a Suzuki Swerft. I've got it for sale. Just
give me a call.
Speaker 2 (08:39):
Never want to miss an opportunity, guys, Thank you very much,
Jack Tame, Tim Wilson, I huddle this evening year. So
four and a half thousand dollars two thousand pounds, four
and a half thousand dollars. The most expensive Apple iPhone ever. Well,
obviously I didn't have to say iPhone. That was redundant.
All Apple phones or iPhones, aren't they. It's the iPhone
seventeen Promax. It has advanced processes and redesigned hammers and
(09:00):
two terabytes of storage. Everything everything you've ever dreamed for,
dreamed
Speaker 1 (09:04):
Of For more from Hither Duplessy Allen Drive, listen live
to news talks it'd be from four pm weekdays, or
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