October 4, 2024 • 6 mins
NZ Herald Deputy Political Editor Thomas Coughlan speaks to Jack Tame about the recent week in politics, regarding Casey Costello and release of her independent advice, no more free Covid tests, Keytruda, Parking penalties increasing, and more...
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Time out to wrap the political week with The New
Zealand Herald. Deputy Political editor Thomas Coglan is back with
US Guilder to be so. Casey Costello has released her
long awaited independent advice. What did you think?
Speaker 2 (00:14):
Uh, it's.
Speaker 3 (00:19):
I mean, I mean, come on, come on, that's I
mean really, I mean, how do you how many of
the five bits of advice on heated tobacco products didn't
even mention heated tobacco products.
Speaker 2 (00:32):
Yes, it's a it isn't she hasn't made a compelling
case for it. I'm sort of I'm struggling to find
so this week. I've been struggling to find comparisons. I
remember during the pandemic, when things are moving very fast,
you'd occasionally get at a press conference. Ashley Bloomfield, who
(00:54):
was very well read, would say, oh, I you know,
I read this that there's an interesting paper published in
the Lance a couple of days ago about this, And
you know that was always very impressive because he had
a very busy job and somehow managed to find time
to read a medical journal. So it's not the issue
at stake here is not too much so that I
guess she went out and got her own advice, because
(01:18):
sometimes you do that. Of course I should. Bloomfield was
a public servant, not a minister, so it's quite different.
But yeah, the issue is that that the quality of
the advice is not quite what she uh led us
to believe. I guess, and I you know, the it
is sort of a grab bag of I mean some,
(01:38):
as you say, some articles that didn't mention head of
tobacco products, others that seemed to be less relevant to
New Zealand. There's one from Japan. But the Japan, I think,
is a different different, slightly different circumstances. I've banned other
forms of cessation tools like we have done, so it's
not vaking. So it's not it doesn't seem to be
(02:01):
quiet the kind of get out of jail free card
that she perhaps presented it to be. And certainly, you
know when you're when you're dealing with, when you're when
you're when you're comparing it with a vice from officials
who themselves have synthesized the available evidents. The officials didn't
invent the events. They found it themselves as well. It
just didn't it didn't quite seem to justify who sort
(02:24):
of well I had my own advice, which was the
justification for offering this text card.
Speaker 1 (02:29):
Now a lot of new rules came into play this week,
so no more free COVID tests, key truder stuff changes
and parking penalties are increasing.
Speaker 2 (02:38):
Yes, so these are these people who public who who
pudon me? These for people who park in disabled car parks,
those the fines have increased. That you're up to seven
hundred and fifty dollars now, I mean, this seems like
something that I can't I mentionine anyone disagreeing with probably
(02:58):
fairly popular. I I note that a lot of the
National Party's social media accounts are sort of tweeting it
and posting it. I think that sort of expecting a
fairly I suppose it's said the sort of bit more
benign end of the tough on crime rhedirectly that the
government's trying to push out. It's very difficult to I mean,
it's a it's an annoyance. I think of a lot
of a lot of people, even people who don't sort
(03:22):
of interact with the uh, the disabled community, when you
see people using those car parks who really shouldn't be
so I think that's probably unlikely to come up against
them too much pushback. Also some other positive changes. Some
of those cancer medicines that the government belatedly funded have
have have become available, so Keytruder from the first of
(03:47):
the month, and that's sort of a part of the
first of a longer roll out of those of those
medicines that were that were funded not on the budget
but but after the budget as part of that that long,
that long saga.
Speaker 1 (04:01):
And Christopher Luckxon hit back at what were described as
the politics of envy over his house sales.
Speaker 2 (04:07):
Yes, so Christopher Luxon owned a He owned an apartment
in Wellington, as many in peas do. When he became
Prime Minister, he was able to move what he had
the right to move into Premier House. Obviously that that
whole saga transpired. It needed some central some renovations to
bring it up to standard. He claimed that that continue
to claim his allowance to live in his apartment and
(04:28):
then you know there was the drama around around back.
So he is moving into Premier House now he's moved
in over the weekend. That meant that he decided to
sell his apartment earlier. This was pub med last month.
He sold it. He made a nice capital gain on
that apartment of about exactly one hundred and eighty thousand
dollars minus sales fees. And he made some renovations. And
(04:53):
Labor has used that to play into this debate that
they are starting around the fairness of the tax system. Obviously,
Labor Labor sort have been trapped in this discussion about
the fairness of the tech system for nearly fifteen years now.
I think and and and they seem much better at
sort of discussing it than next to doing anything about it.
Obviously they had sex years in government and decided not
(05:14):
to touch those issues. But but Christopher lux And has
head back at at at Labor kind of using it
like that. And and And said, you know, he admitted
to being a wealthy guy. Obviously not you know, not
not that that was any surprise to anyone. And And
(05:34):
in a series, I mean it was mainly I think
mainly an interview on news Stars be actually where he
just used, I suppose some some inopportune language to sort
of describe the level of of comfort in which he lives.
I think it's it's he struggles with this issue. I
think it might be something over the summer break that
he sort of has some media training on. I think
just in future it was possibly something he might need
(05:56):
to man is slightly better than he does at the moment,
more elegant language.
Speaker 1 (06:01):
Yeah, hey, thank you so much. Thomas really appreciate it.
Speaker 2 (06:04):
Havey good weekend.
Speaker 1 (06:05):
That is Thomas Coglan, the New Zealand Herald Deputy political editor.
It's twenty one past six.
Speaker 3 (06:11):
For more from Hither Duplessy, Allen Drive, listen live to
news talks it'd be from four pm weekdays, or follow
the podcast on iHeartRadio.
Time out to wrap the political week with The New
Zealand Herald. Deputy Political editor Thomas Coglan is back with
US Guilder to be so. Casey Costello has released her
long awaited independent advice. What did you think?
Speaker 2 (00:14):
Uh, it's.
Speaker 3 (00:19):
I mean, I mean, come on, come on, that's I
mean really, I mean, how do you how many of
the five bits of advice on heated tobacco products didn't
even mention heated tobacco products.
Speaker 2 (00:32):
Yes, it's a it isn't she hasn't made a compelling
case for it. I'm sort of I'm struggling to find
so this week. I've been struggling to find comparisons. I
remember during the pandemic, when things are moving very fast,
you'd occasionally get at a press conference. Ashley Bloomfield, who
(00:54):
was very well read, would say, oh, I you know,
I read this that there's an interesting paper published in
the Lance a couple of days ago about this, And
you know that was always very impressive because he had
a very busy job and somehow managed to find time
to read a medical journal. So it's not the issue
at stake here is not too much so that I
guess she went out and got her own advice, because
(01:18):
sometimes you do that. Of course I should. Bloomfield was
a public servant, not a minister, so it's quite different.
But yeah, the issue is that that the quality of
the advice is not quite what she uh led us
to believe. I guess, and I you know, the it
is sort of a grab bag of I mean some,
(01:38):
as you say, some articles that didn't mention head of
tobacco products, others that seemed to be less relevant to
New Zealand. There's one from Japan. But the Japan, I think,
is a different different, slightly different circumstances. I've banned other
forms of cessation tools like we have done, so it's
not vaking. So it's not it doesn't seem to be
(02:01):
quiet the kind of get out of jail free card
that she perhaps presented it to be. And certainly, you
know when you're when you're dealing with, when you're when
you're when you're comparing it with a vice from officials
who themselves have synthesized the available evidents. The officials didn't
invent the events. They found it themselves as well. It
just didn't it didn't quite seem to justify who sort
(02:24):
of well I had my own advice, which was the
justification for offering this text card.
Speaker 1 (02:29):
Now a lot of new rules came into play this week,
so no more free COVID tests, key truder stuff changes
and parking penalties are increasing.
Speaker 2 (02:38):
Yes, so these are these people who public who who
pudon me? These for people who park in disabled car parks,
those the fines have increased. That you're up to seven
hundred and fifty dollars now, I mean, this seems like
something that I can't I mentionine anyone disagreeing with probably
(02:58):
fairly popular. I I note that a lot of the
National Party's social media accounts are sort of tweeting it
and posting it. I think that sort of expecting a
fairly I suppose it's said the sort of bit more
benign end of the tough on crime rhedirectly that the
government's trying to push out. It's very difficult to I mean,
it's a it's an annoyance. I think of a lot
of a lot of people, even people who don't sort
(03:22):
of interact with the uh, the disabled community, when you
see people using those car parks who really shouldn't be
so I think that's probably unlikely to come up against
them too much pushback. Also some other positive changes. Some
of those cancer medicines that the government belatedly funded have
have have become available, so Keytruder from the first of
(03:47):
the month, and that's sort of a part of the
first of a longer roll out of those of those
medicines that were that were funded not on the budget
but but after the budget as part of that that long,
that long saga.
Speaker 1 (04:01):
And Christopher Luckxon hit back at what were described as
the politics of envy over his house sales.
Speaker 2 (04:07):
Yes, so Christopher Luxon owned a He owned an apartment
in Wellington, as many in peas do. When he became
Prime Minister, he was able to move what he had
the right to move into Premier House. Obviously that that
whole saga transpired. It needed some central some renovations to
bring it up to standard. He claimed that that continue
to claim his allowance to live in his apartment and
(04:28):
then you know there was the drama around around back.
So he is moving into Premier House now he's moved
in over the weekend. That meant that he decided to
sell his apartment earlier. This was pub med last month.
He sold it. He made a nice capital gain on
that apartment of about exactly one hundred and eighty thousand
dollars minus sales fees. And he made some renovations. And
(04:53):
Labor has used that to play into this debate that
they are starting around the fairness of the tax system. Obviously,
Labor Labor sort have been trapped in this discussion about
the fairness of the tech system for nearly fifteen years now.
I think and and and they seem much better at
sort of discussing it than next to doing anything about it.
Obviously they had sex years in government and decided not
(05:14):
to touch those issues. But but Christopher lux And has
head back at at at Labor kind of using it
like that. And and And said, you know, he admitted
to being a wealthy guy. Obviously not you know, not
not that that was any surprise to anyone. And And
(05:34):
in a series, I mean it was mainly I think
mainly an interview on news Stars be actually where he
just used, I suppose some some inopportune language to sort
of describe the level of of comfort in which he lives.
I think it's it's he struggles with this issue. I
think it might be something over the summer break that
he sort of has some media training on. I think
just in future it was possibly something he might need
(05:56):
to man is slightly better than he does at the moment,
more elegant language.
Speaker 1 (06:01):
Yeah, hey, thank you so much. Thomas really appreciate it.
Speaker 2 (06:04):
Havey good weekend.
Speaker 1 (06:05):
That is Thomas Coglan, the New Zealand Herald Deputy political editor.
It's twenty one past six.
Speaker 3 (06:11):
For more from Hither Duplessy, Allen Drive, listen live to
news talks it'd be from four pm weekdays, or follow
the podcast on iHeartRadio.
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