A big silver molecule (25 February 2025)

Marcus collects your O.E. stories, and wonders why our Prime Minister hasn't improved his ability to answer straightforward questions.

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Speaker 1 (00:07):
You're listening to the Marcus Lush Nights podcast from Newstalk SEDB.

Speaker 2 (00:13):
Just thinking about sky TV, I reckon without the rugby,
there is no sky TV. Reckon. That's a very powerful
negotiating tactic for the rugby union. I guess had to
go find someone else to go and kind of try
and up their price per year. They'll be worried about
their satellite at sky TV, but they'll be more worried
about losing rugby or getting that cheaply. Interesting enough, in

(00:34):
that whole article that Gregor pulled it, the whole strength
of sky is because rural people with poor internet, that's
why they need the spaceship the satellite. So yeah, they're
the people that really are the die hard ones, the
ones in country valleys that need it for the rugby.
So who knows what's going to go on there, But

(00:54):
it wouldn't be the beginning of the rugby season without
discussions about Sky and coverage. But as far as I'm
consumed without rugby, well goodness, you wouldn't bother would you do?
Everything else is repeats up and the remote looking at
all those channels and why there's so many gaps in
the remote, Why is it just going to one to forty?

(01:15):
And whoever gets the Arts channel never even seen anything
on that anyway. Gosh, what's it called pay perview TV?
Is that what's called satellite TV? Cheapest creepers? Anyway, I
hope you're good with you are people. My name is
Marcus HEDDL twelve. I imagine they'd be breaking news between
now and midnight, and I intend to break it to you.

(01:38):
What seemed to be a situation up the Skippers Canyon
that was quite serious with helicopters now appears to be
not so serious. It's down the bulletins that one ROBERTA
Flack she has died. She went to university. She went
to Howard at age fifteen. Extraordinary. Anyway, I'm sure we'll

(01:59):
go in all sorts of directions tonight. Some I will
guide you, some you will guide me. And as always,
of breaking news happens while I'm here, I will bring
that to you, but back at you, because you know
less and less journalists out and about. If things are
happening at your place, let us know what is happening
when it's happening. So if you've got breaking news and people,

(02:21):
did us free well informing us with what happened, which
was fairly actually grim breaking news last night. People have
been hit by cars and the light now I see
someone's been hit by a bus. But if you have
got breaking news, bring that to us. Oh eight hundred
eighty ten eighty and text at nine two nine two.

(02:41):
But text it'll call it through. We do quite well
with quakes. We're really quick and accurate with those house fires,
that sort of stuff. So you've got information, bring that through, Oh,
eight hundred eighty ten eighty and nine two nine two
to text, And you might want to cover up some
of the other discussions about Sky since for the last
three months we have talked about Sky and how useless

(03:02):
it is, mainly because they got rid of their texts
and people want some and it takes them forever to
turn up. And now it's even looking sketchy with the rugby,
and they haven't got many wells of good spirit from people.
There's no goodwill anyway, So if you want to mention

(03:23):
something on the back of that, feel free to get
in touch to us. I think probably I don't know this,
but I imagine what probably would be as much of
a drawer of rugby these days would be the NRL,
and I guess the rights for that are fairly secure,
don't know. Also, following the story about the couple that
came on a plane that does sit next to a

(03:43):
dead person. Where else would you put a dead person?
You've just got to strap them in the seats that
standard operating procedure. They've got no cupboards, there's no spare room.
They can't put them in the overhead locker. If someone
dies in a flight, they strap them in and put
a blanket over them. And if you're next to that person,
that's your flight. You can't start complaining. That's the reality.

(04:08):
Old people fly. Sometimes they die strapping and they're next
to you. Be real unpleasant for the flight to tenants
trying to move bodies around and block them in. But
you don't know why that story has got so much
prominence when really, I mean the question is, well, what
else were they supposed to do? Can't push the body
out of the plane who got no spear lockers, can't

(04:30):
put up with the captain and the jump seat. What
else could you do with it? Anyway, They've got a
lot to say tonights to get in touch. You want
to be a part of it. Eight hundred and eighty
ten eighty nine nine two detext Market. Also tonight, I
want to talk about the oe, because that's the thing
of the past now, the Oe. I never had one, really,
I don't think I did. What kind of always seemed

(04:51):
like a bit of a cliche to me, the oe.
But less people are going on and oe they can't
afford it, and people are not going to London as much.
Why we always seems so damn bleak. That would be
my response to you on that one. But I'm curious
to talk to you about your oi's the great and

(05:13):
the bad. Who had a dreadful OI? And who in
an OI that was absolutely out of this world that
it knocked it out of the park and it was
extraordinary because you all have done them from the old
days when you got on a ship like the Oriana
and spent three weeks going to London and worked as
a nurse, or for the more recent ones. I don't
know what he's in your more recent times, but I'd

(05:34):
love to talk about OEZ tonight. The great but I
remember a country miles away from anywhere. When we go,
we need to go, we need to go for a while.
But Kiwi's love for the oe is probably declining. People
need to pay off your student loan and start saving
up for a house. But I want to hear about yours,

(05:54):
particularly if you are someone that's not of the eighty
year old generation, done one quite recently. What at torture,
the scrapes you got into? Did you end up in
a Turkish prison? Did you end up with food poisoning
for a month? Did you end up I met a

(06:14):
guy once, he was a real estate agent. He told
me ended up sharing Phil Colin's sheep. You know, I thought, Gee,
that's a conversation stuff. I can still remember it. Of
course Phil Collins is not in good health at the moment.

(06:35):
Things that die for him. But fancy of having sheep?
Never knew he was a farmer in fancy a KEI
we sharing his sheep. It's fairly thin claim to far
Quite like it anyway. My name is Marcus well Compared,
and I'd love to talk to you about your oees,
where you went and what you did. I don't think that.

(06:55):
I don't think there in the air that not tonight
was about his sheep? Was it wasn't about did he
witness someone drowning? I'm joking. Get in touch, Marcus to
twelve eight and eighty nine, text, all go the good
and the bad of your o's, your fantastic stories and
your terrible stories. Where did you go? Did you have
a near death experience? Did you get lost? I just

(07:19):
needed did you have one of those houses where there
was a oh you know there's three people share a
beard a eight tower shift? So I quite like those
stories about people that do it tough when they get
to London. One of those sorts of stories, one of
those jobs you ended up doing pouring pints at the
pub that we can have a good discussion about this tonight.

(07:42):
Goodness Chris ELL's beck in the news. No one told
me about that cheapers. Oh she was appeared in neighbors.
Didn't know that anyway. I'm raving but getting touch. My
name is Marcus, Welcome fifteen past eight o's thing of
the past. But where was yours? And how good or

(08:03):
bad was it? Obe? You went there for a week
and godly homesick and came back home Marcus. The reason
that story about the body had so much prominence is
because the body was moved. They tried the business class
but was too tricky, so PLoP next to another person,

(08:23):
or someone's got to sit next to the person. Nothing
wrong with a quiet passage next to your trash. If
I had a dead body next to me on a plane,
I'd be fine as long as I got special service.
But then again, I don't know what that special service
would be, like an extra bag of cassava chips or
nuts or something. Yeah, I think it would be freaked out.

(08:45):
Actually I'm thinking about it. But anyway, but that's what
they need to do because there's nowhere else to put
the bodies, and they stiffened up. I think. I don't
think it would happen that often, but I've often read
in books like Big Secrets about transporting bodies on planes.
But actually there is nowhere to put them. Jump and
start the whole war. Rolling. Once you start will get

(09:06):
go eight hundred eighty ten eighty. It's like traveling without
leaving the cheer. I don't know where those places are,
By the way, I thought I was quite good with geography.
I think the first two were in India. There might
be more modern names for old places. Are they gotten Bengaluru?

(09:29):
And they'm sarry have to google those up. Welcome people,
my name is Mircus eight hundred and eighty ten eighty.
It might be an old city that I know is
something else odds Bengalore coursers, who wouldn't want to go
there for your oi jeepers be sensational and your oi

(09:56):
disasters would be enjoyable too. They might have gone, It
might have gone badly. It might've kind of got food
poisoning and lost half your weight, and who knows, you
might have got bird flu. David Marcus, welcome, you're there, David, Yeah,

(10:18):
what happened to you?

Speaker 3 (10:20):
Nothing tragic? But I started my OE in ninety six
and I went to South Africa to watch the All
Blacks play post apartheid and came home ten years later.

Speaker 2 (10:32):
Wow, did you just take a backpack?

Speaker 4 (10:35):
Yeah?

Speaker 3 (10:35):
I left with a good old Kiwi macpack backpack, came home,
came home ten years later with a container load.

Speaker 2 (10:50):
Didn't seem an extraordinary leeature at the time.

Speaker 3 (10:53):
Oh, it was I like fishy going from small town
New Zealand. Then all of a sudden decided to be
my OE starting in Africa, and and I know it's
just like national geographic in some places, and yeah, quite spectacular.

Speaker 2 (11:09):
Did you go from South Africa, up Africa, up through
Africa to you yep. Yeah.

Speaker 3 (11:14):
And then I was probably in Africa for about nine
months wow. And then and then ended up in London,
did a couple of years in London, and then I
ended up had six years.

Speaker 2 (11:29):
In Bermuda on the way home flup doing.

Speaker 3 (11:36):
The tax havens of the financial side of things, and
so I was doing bookwork.

Speaker 2 (11:41):
For Oh that sounds quaetic. So has it been hard
to settle back here, David?

Speaker 3 (11:47):
I've been back in New Zealand for nearly twenty years.

Speaker 2 (11:51):
Now, okay, but after Bermuda for six years, did that
make al Or New Zealand seem a little bit kind
of out of the way.

Speaker 3 (11:59):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, But just moved back to Christians
and stuff.

Speaker 5 (12:04):
But that was all good.

Speaker 3 (12:05):
But yeah, He's one of those things you go over
seas for a while and work in London, do the
London lifestyle, all that kind of stuff, and then you
come home to his yell it so is a lot quieter.
And then the problem with it now is that you
were You're so far away here and yonder to go
back and do it again, so far away it's hard
work here.

Speaker 2 (12:23):
Was that a good World Cup? Was at the one
we got poisoned? Yes, were there at the final with
old Mertons throwing up at the side or was it Goldie?
I can remember it kind of we at that one.

Speaker 4 (12:35):
No, no, not at that one.

Speaker 3 (12:37):
No, this was there was ninety six, just as the
post apartites. So it was yeah, all backs to it
and so that was great the rug and then the
Africans were great too. It's a good time to go.

Speaker 2 (12:50):
Nice hear from you, David, always talking all about always
eight hundred and eighty Marcus all wide, Buddy, Earbus and
Boying Airliners have risk caverns with beards, one for pilot's
other full crew. But put the dead people in kettle
class mark because I got prigged that eighteen was, but
determined not to let that make me miss out in

(13:10):
the big OI. So I got a degree, then took
my three year old, traveled through Canada and all the
Southern States, then came back in time for her to
start school. Oh that's something to do the OI with
a newborn. Go you get in touch your ois, your stories.
Did you go somewhere interesting? Did you do something interesting
six years in Bermuda? That sounds good, don't it? I

(13:30):
think probably the OI was more cal more common before
the student loan and before kind of the housing market
got cocked. I think people haven't got quite the same
freedom now. Don't know if that's true. That's kind of
my supposition. By the way, too, I went back listen
to Christopher Luxen with Hosking today. I've got no idea

(13:52):
what Luxin was on about. I've got no idea why
didn't just answer the questions. He dug himself into a
hole and kept digging, and there was there was no
reason for it. Short sharp answers on the radio, that's
what you want? Yes, no, thank you?

Speaker 4 (14:05):
Out you go?

Speaker 2 (14:07):
Goodness me. It was frustrating and I'm thinking, well, and
I don't think he was. I don't think he was
being deliberately mischief, mischievous or deceiving. It was just management speak,
but flipping and fury and to listen to goodness anyway,
ahise jeeus, Craig Marcus, welcome.

Speaker 5 (14:32):
Good evening.

Speaker 2 (14:32):
How's it going tonight, Craig? Do you ask that want me?
Wanting me to reply or just being polite?

Speaker 5 (14:39):
I always be polite and ask people how they're doing.
This isst brought up, so you.

Speaker 2 (14:43):
Want me to answer, or you want to cut into
your bit o.

Speaker 5 (14:46):
I'll cavin do the thing. It's all good.

Speaker 2 (14:48):
So you don't care, you don't care how I.

Speaker 5 (14:50):
Am, well I do, But if you don't want answering,
I was just.

Speaker 2 (14:54):
Curious to know because the way your tone sounded sound
I'm going all right, Craig, to be honest. At a
very productive day, got a lot done. Re enjoy re,
enjoy day. So it's nice to be at work. It's
nice to talk to you, Craig. How is your day?

Speaker 5 (15:11):
It was very good. I've got a whole lot of
washing done today, but of vcumins, a bit of spring cleaning,
so it's always good.

Speaker 2 (15:16):
How much washing like the sheets.

Speaker 5 (15:19):
Uh, sweatshirts mainly and flee splinkets and stuff like that.
One that's take a little bit longer to dry.

Speaker 2 (15:24):
How many switch shirts you're pecking?

Speaker 4 (15:27):
Uh?

Speaker 5 (15:28):
It washed five and I've got about seven in total.

Speaker 2 (15:31):
You've got seven switch shirts?

Speaker 5 (15:33):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (15:34):
What like on them sports brands or like Harvard University
or like.

Speaker 5 (15:40):
I've got a couple of that. I've got a couple
of ones from the universities over in America, but most
of them are just general generic off the shock came
up once. But I've got a few specialized ones here.

Speaker 2 (15:50):
Wow, and clothes dryer and outside line.

Speaker 5 (15:55):
Outside line of course.

Speaker 2 (15:56):
Oh that's the best, and that the best. You get
them in a beautiful then yeah, yeah, anyway, good drying
with a two on it. Where about your canterburs Avant, Hamilton,
the working oh you Hamilton, good drawing weather there, it's
been hot, the crickets are out. Wow, okay, what do
you got?

Speaker 5 (16:13):
It's probably be a little bit. I hit a little
bit about you talking about the streaming for the rugby
and stuff. It's got relatives, a live it sorry.

Speaker 2 (16:20):
That's it. That's what we're on to.

Speaker 5 (16:21):
Yep, yeah, yeah, yeah, I've got relatives. A liver at
the back, a cafe here sort of Nick Harbor down
from Wellington, and arens still on a.

Speaker 2 (16:31):
Nick Nick Tabot down from Reglan.

Speaker 5 (16:34):
Yeah you got you got caffi you seen the next
one down. It's like it's like a little beach. I
came here and started with I.

Speaker 2 (16:41):
Think Mary Copra, I think you said Wellington. But yeah, okay,
I know where you are.

Speaker 5 (16:46):
Yeah, And they're on ads l at the moment because
they hadn't in the fiber up the here and trying
to watch rugby games from there. It's always it's all
over the time, and the only option they have this starling, which.

Speaker 2 (16:57):
Is expensive, Yeah, and it's people don't like him.

Speaker 5 (17:02):
Well yeah he's a little bit he's a weak character.
But I mean it's there's start Lincolnstallation is quite expensive. Yeah,
and then they charge you quite a lot of money
for the data are you using So at the moment
they're on, are yourself because there's no five away out
that way, so they don't you have an option apart
from the sky. So if they lose the sky, I
feel sorry for those people who are on sort of

(17:23):
slower internet and sort of the way out of the world.
What type of things, They're going to have no choice,
And it's going to be quite interesting for them. I mean,
you know, obviously set up a lifestyle block and all
nice mad away from the city, a nice piece and quiet,
and now if they want to watch rugby they have
to go into town to a pub or something. So
it's going to be interesting.

Speaker 2 (17:41):
But I be fun to go in the pub, but
also challenging to drive home if you had a cap
of a.

Speaker 5 (17:47):
Yeah, especially those roads are not very forgiving, No exactly.

Speaker 2 (17:51):
I mean, think any road you're not supposed to drive
on drunk Craig. That's just me to you. But thank you, Marcus,
A you nickname for Hamilton, the Inland Empire.

Speaker 5 (17:59):
I like it.

Speaker 2 (18:03):
Marcus Luxon is just one more opinion poll from being rolled.
Mark my words, if you lean left or right, he
just comes across as an absolute unit or that's not
what the word says it ever's core audience. I just
don't know who they are. Marcus. What movie did you

(18:26):
go to the other day you missed the last half
hours your son wanted to leave or is asleep? It
was the Lead Zeppelin documentary about I forget what it
was called, but it was very good, extremely good archival footage.
Took me all my effort not to say archival. Then

(18:47):
I'll google up and see what it's called, Becoming Lead Zeppelin,
one of the great concert origin movies. Talking about the Oe, Marcus,
when I left for my OE in March nineteen ninety,
my entire extended family came out to people to see
me off, as was common back then. As I'd have
parted through the gate. One of them, well, don't come

(19:07):
home married five years later, I came back with my
South African wife and we've just celebrated our thirtieth wedding anniversary. Marcus,
I didn't owe from the UK and after I try
to end up here in New Zealand. Arrived with a
backpack twenty three years ago and now I have a
mortgage and two kids. Wouldn't change it for the world.

(19:29):
Whispers out of Australia looks like Drake is canceling his
two News Inland show. Is not confirmed yet, but there's
whispers there. I'm not talking for the older people. I'm
not talking Francis Drake. I'm talking Drake the singer. So yeah,
I don't know what sort of I've seen some shots
from the lot of people take signs they hold up.

(19:50):
I don't like that when people go to concert with
signs saying pick me up to this play a song
and that concert begging. Yeah, not into that. When they
get some precocious per stuff to play one of the songs,
they all look at him. Marcus. My wife OWI to England.
We met in her first months. You stayed ten years.
Now we've lived here fifteen fair enough, spent three years

(20:20):
in the UK, of which one year was in New
Yorkshire and two years in the southwest of England. Then
spent four months traveling from Istanbul to Cape Town on
the way in Clinton. Countries such as Syria, Rwanda and
Zimbabwe would do it again. Off you go here on
the wiless insurance Electric are going up by a long way.

(20:41):
Trouble for fixed income folk. There's a black pudding club
in the UK, very good for the iron and the zinc.
Do you go talk about your oe people. That's what
we're on about tonight, seventeen away from nine ones that
went very well, ones that went very bad, Like if

(21:03):
you ended up in a prison or arrested, that would
be of interest to me. I mean, I don't know why,
just because otherwise a lot of the ois I went
there and fell in love and got married, which is exciting,
but always like a bit of a variety of you're
called too, and you might have gone somewhere interesting for

(21:24):
your OI, like a place we've never heard of, like
up to Nome, Alaska and gone gold mining off the
ice with the Pomerank. So what's that mad woman's family
called cheapest creepers? What's her name? I'm bearing gold? She

(21:49):
she reminds me a lot of people I've worked with
on the ERA on the air Aurorica. You watch that.
What is her name anyway, Emily Riddell, Let's write Emily
Redell hell on the Eroica, anyone gone to know more?

(22:12):
Aleska on the OI somewhere like that. That's the sort
of stuff I want to talk about, Marcus. The signs
at the Drake Show are asking for money after Girl
Got Given twenty five thousand another Australian show. Aha, begging. Well,
that's no way to be go to a concert just
ask for money. What's become of the world? He's not

(22:35):
asking for bitcoin? What is the date? By the way,
twenty for the February last Tuesday, on February February twenty
eight days of course not a longer one. As I say,
the lines are free. If you've got something to add tonight,
keep those emails coming through. Two people all about the os,
but would like your stories obviously it's what I'm about tonight,
particularly about about oi's gone bad or gone interesting. But

(23:00):
that's what I'm on to tonight. So if you've got
one of those stories, I'll lean into that. Would love
to hear from you. Texts. Also good, you've got breaking
news where you get those going through. Also, there's something
different you want to mention also to someone wants to
talk about Oe's that within Does the OI have to
be transnational just changing islands? It's like going to another

(23:24):
country the Chatham Islands or Great Barrier. Yeah, well, fair enough.
I don't know why people are coming up with your
nicknames for Hamilton. I don't know. That's part of our
brief the Inland Empire. But that's good. Also people and
get amongst at oh, eight hundred and eighty ten eighty
and nine to nine, or if you went to Alaska

(23:48):
gold mining in Alaska, something along those lines. Beautiful, you've
got breaking news or something else that you do want
to talk about. I am up for that. And also
what do we do if Sky TV loses the rugby
it'll be game over? Wouldn't it to put another ten
ten million in the bid for that? With the fact

(24:08):
that although they reckon the other company that might take
over they reckon, they're more likely to buy Sky as
opposed to just buying the rugby rights, which I'm sure
the Sky shareholders would be happy to sell. Oh. By
the way, guess who's the Prime Minister at the moment?
Acting Prime Minister David Seymour. Winston's out of the country.

(24:35):
He's in China amid heightened tensions. And I don't know
where Luxeon is. I think he's in Vietnam. He was
going to to Indonesia or Philippines or something. But that's
not a happening thing because other pressing stuff has come up. Oh,
forget the call to I got some great texts. Forget

(24:58):
the rugby Sky has the darts one hundred and eighty
enduring The show is always great. Whilst working at night,
Marcel Nelson, can you imagine, Marcus bloody awesome? We finally
have the prime minister. We need close the borders and
keep Seymour. Can you imagine diving for gold without Emily

(25:19):
Radelle up above you and control the oxygen capressor. You
would sign your own death certificate. It's better with the
Pamarankes that always seem drunk go they're the fighting migrants,
don't know where they're from. Wow, we're talking about bearing
sea gold. If no one's watched that, it's pretty extraordinary.

(25:43):
Freezers over so they've got ships on the ice and
they're drilling or they're on boats with suction cups on
the seafloor, but never make much because they're all loose units.
Marcus I spent a few years in the Europe in
the only two thousands. Some are working doing water sports
for a hotel in Creek, Greece. Then winters in London

(26:03):
working for a company with two royal warrants. Got to
have a lot of got to a lot of celebrity houses.
Elton John I did it, Nigella Laws and Roman Atkins
and any Lynux ten Downing Street palaces, Castle's had a
great time. Never got to know, but did two years
in the underground silver mine on Great Beer Lake. Twenty

(26:24):
three hour daylight summer and almost dark twenty three hours midwinter,
cold as day, seventy six degrees fahrenheit below. Good money,
no women issues, great life. Jennifer, it's Marcus. Welcome and
good evening.

Speaker 6 (26:41):
Hi, Marcus.

Speaker 7 (26:42):
I went over to the UK on the Sydney Line
nineteen sixty six I think it was, and stayed in London.
I was married, we hadn't been there very long and
we went round Wales and we shared a shared a

(27:09):
car with another couple we'd met on the ship. And
you weren't supposed to be traveling by car when you
stayed in a youth.

Speaker 2 (27:17):
Hostel, so it's supposed to be on a body. Yeah right, Anyway,
we we I'd forgotten about youth hostels. What kind of
draconian things they were.

Speaker 7 (27:33):
I've got I stayed in one in Scotland where they
had one room full of beds. It was cramp full
of women. And anyway, getting back on track, Whatcher came
out of what shop and he said, you're looking for
a part?

Speaker 8 (27:47):
We said yes.

Speaker 7 (27:48):
He said, I'll pack around the back. So we went
around the back and he came out and he said,
big disaster up the road.

Speaker 6 (27:55):
I said what he said? Yeah? I said to him
what happened?

Speaker 7 (28:03):
He said, slack, he fell on a school.

Speaker 2 (28:07):
Really exactly. Yeah, you were there for that. I was
how far away from there were you?

Speaker 7 (28:16):
Twelve miles?

Speaker 2 (28:20):
Wow?

Speaker 7 (28:20):
So we checked and checked into the youth hostel and
they had black dormso rooms with banks and I'm going.

Speaker 2 (28:32):
To leave the ex someone news, Jennifer, But that's what
a story. Well, that's what that's the spread of what
we want. Oh he's with a difference. Goodness, keep your
stories coming. Greetings, and good what that woman was talking about.
They had several texts about asking what she was talking about.
She was referring to Abba fun, which was an abber fan.

(28:54):
I think it's pronounce it was the it was a job.
There was a giant slag heap near a coal mine
in Whales that collapsed in nineteen sixty six, killing about
one hundred and thirty kids and twenty teachers. It was
like Britain's greatest tragedy, made more so by the fact
that it was avoidable and that the people that died
were children at school, so that's where they must have

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been staying where that happened. We are talking about oe.
Is there a thing of the past? The good and
the bad are the interesting things that happened on your OE.
That's what 'ren about tonight. If you want to discuss
that eight hundred and eighty ten eighty and nine to
nine two to text, hit'll twelve Trevor Marcus. Welcome there,
You going good.

Speaker 9 (29:39):
Trevor, Yeah, just a couple of stories. Went over to
London and worked for the Ministry of Defense as a
first fix chippy and then worked in the London Port
headquarters as a as a chippy as well. Some of
these places were incredible inside. They are like probably three

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or four times the age of New Zealand at the time.
At lunchtime, I'd go up onto the roof the Kiwi
boy and I'd sneak out up onto the roof and
there's a massive, big statue up on the roof of Neptune.
I have my lunch with him overlooking the Tower of London.
And there was another place I work for, the Queen's Lifeguards.

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The Queen's Lifeguards are the place where they hold those
Irish black horses that stand out the side of Whitehall.
And as a kiw and video cameras was all new
the inside, I asked the guard if I could actually
bring the video camera and take a shot of some
of these guys lining up with their horses, and he said, oh, tomorrow,

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they're actually doing a massive, big pageant. You can bring
it in hand, the camera into me and then when
it comes on, just come down and grab it. And
I was up on about the third floor and so
I came down downstairs from the pageant and there's probably
about one hundred and thirty horses all dressed up with
massive big drummer horses like the Clyde Styles and there,
and so I raced down and got my video camera

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and I'm filming this whole agent from about the third floor.
And then all the horses they went out on parade
outside the barricades and then they did their little thing.
And so at that time, the men's toilet on this
particular floor they had it was quite amazing. They had

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cartoon strips of Lady Diana around the wall, you know,
from the newspapers. So I went, I went into the
men's toilet and I started videoing that. You know, some
of these cartoons are really well put together. And just
I could hear the band start up again. So I
raced to go back outside, and as I opened the door,
the argitan in it, and there was an argitan and

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guards standing at the door, and he just yelled at me.

Speaker 8 (31:50):
He goes, what are you doing?

Speaker 9 (31:51):
And I says, mate, I'm just going to go and
I'm just going to go and take some more shots
of the young and he says, you're not going anywhere.
And I says, oh, why is that And he says, oh,
while you were filming. He says, I could see you
from the courtyard. And I says, yeah, I've got permission.
And he said, when you were filming, he said, there
was a motor bike quent past and and I says, oh, yeah,
they had quite a bad backfire, a couple of you know,

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like this two stroke motorbike backfire. And he says, no,
that wasn't a backfire. He says, it was two IRA
guys shooting at the guard at the gate. And I says,
I probably got that on footage. So he took, you know,
I showed him the footage. He says, off the IRA
gets me any of this soul Dale flame and they
can shoot over the wall. And so that was one

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of my little episodes. So I managed to get my
video camera back after that. And another place I stayed
at was up in Ethingshire which had Rod Stewart's place
on the farm, and Rod and Rachel had just got
together then, and so same thing again, Kiwi boy was
a video camera. And so I'm driving the tractor down
the road and see these horses coming up and saying, oh,

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this is probably Rachel's horses coming back.

Speaker 10 (32:58):
Up the road.

Speaker 9 (32:59):
And I says, but I've got just got to show
you around the bottom of their property. Now, if you
can imagine Rod Stewart place that's called Paris Hall, and
the place looks like the size of the chafow on
the down the North Island. That's how big this place
looks like. And at the bottom of his garden he
had his bordos has flattening the bottom of the of

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the garden out sort of thing. Is massive property like
acres and I was just joking. I says, Oh, it's
probably he's probably bulldozing it for Rachel for a horse
jumping and that sort of thing. But it was actually
Rod had actually because owned Manchester United, he is actually
building a soccer staying ground at the bottom because he
he'd have friendly games with the police and the Manchester.

Speaker 5 (33:42):
United that sort of thing.

Speaker 9 (33:44):
But so there was a couple of things. And the
other place I went to up there was just after
the lockerby bombing thing. That's the program that's on TV
at the moment. And the highlight for me that I
can remember is a place called Meteora in Callumbacka that's
in Greece.

Speaker 2 (34:01):
So Meteora, how did you spend overseas there Triver a
couple of years.

Speaker 9 (34:07):
Yeah, I got him just before my twenty eighth birthday,
so you go in for you didn't get the grand
parent entry, but if you got them before twenty eight year,
you could do two years. And when I come for
my you have to I'll give you twelve months first
time round. And then I went to get my second
twelve months and they wouldn't give it to me down
in Croydon and I said, mate, I've been working here,

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you know I need that second twelve months so I
can tour around. He says, no, no, you've been working
for the twelve months. And so I ended up going
down to the bus station and I paid twenty quid
for a trip across to Croydon, across to France and
came back. And as I came back and I said
to the guys at the desk, I says, oh, can
I grab another twelve months off you? And he says, oh,
do you want any more time? For the best twenty

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could I'd ever spend?

Speaker 2 (34:51):
Were you a chippy before you went across?

Speaker 10 (34:54):
Uh?

Speaker 11 (34:55):
No, I was a for two.

Speaker 9 (34:57):
I was a marine engineer. But it's amazing that you
get away with. I actually did build Rockwards here in
New Zealand as well, so but yeah.

Speaker 2 (35:03):
The works do they work less than the UK? Is
it easy they work less?

Speaker 9 (35:08):
Oh, they're pretty hard. But the one thing I found
was the age of the people. Like I'd go over
there and you'd think these young people were, you know,
like similar age to you, but it was just their
their lifestyle. They looked like the age five years above
what you you know, you expect.

Speaker 5 (35:25):
It was incredible.

Speaker 9 (35:26):
And they don't come around to your place after work
sort of thing. You always got to go down to
the local down the Yeah, you know, it's just a
totally different lifestyle going.

Speaker 2 (35:36):
To go to the pub. Neil Marcus, welcome, Mark.

Speaker 10 (35:41):
Neil here O Neil.

Speaker 12 (35:44):
We were overseas and the Era on Money eight eighty
eight ninety nine.

Speaker 13 (35:48):
And we had the cricket and Rugby World Cups.

Speaker 12 (35:51):
We been hosting at them at the time.

Speaker 14 (35:53):
Yes, and my wife was working looking after all the
media services or so all the journals and the photographers
and stuff like that, and one of the jobs we
got as volunteers was to help look after the photographers.

Speaker 13 (36:09):
So we got to be right by the field at
all the cricket games and all the ruggye games.

Speaker 12 (36:16):
And it was just before digital photography really took over.
So they'd finish a role at film and we'd have
to race off to the media send to hand it
to the you know, the guy from the Times or
the Evening Standard or whatever and they'd process it. But
we had some pretty cool times. And I think that
we're at Knots and so Richard Hardley was there because
that's his home ground. And I think we saw Bengladshmik

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Pakistana for the first time ever.

Speaker 13 (36:38):
So that was pretty equic.

Speaker 2 (36:40):
Did great memories that Did you keep a diary?

Speaker 4 (36:43):
Yeah?

Speaker 11 (36:44):
We did.

Speaker 13 (36:44):
And and the other one was were twitching when the
All Blacks lost to France and I think it was
the quarterfinal. Yes, we were just an absolute stunned this
belief at what we were seeing right on the sideline
watching it all, and that was that.

Speaker 2 (37:01):
You were still working for the press. Then you're working
supporting the cameras?

Speaker 5 (37:04):
Were you?

Speaker 2 (37:05):
I'm trying to think with that. Was that pre digital
cameras then, was it?

Speaker 4 (37:09):
Yeah, it was just before.

Speaker 13 (37:10):
Digital cameras came in. So they'd click off their roll
of film and we'd have to race it to the
media center and they'd digitize it and then upload it
via their laptops. That they hooked into in the media center,
but nothing nothing like it is now.

Speaker 2 (37:25):
How many years were you there?

Speaker 14 (37:28):
Were?

Speaker 8 (37:28):
Were there for three years?

Speaker 13 (37:30):
And yeah, yeah, my wife got to do she was
based in Ireland for the pool over there, which was
Australia and Georgia and the States. So we'd gone volunteer
and just help look after all the media people.

Speaker 2 (37:44):
There was time to come home when you came home.

Speaker 13 (37:47):
Yeah, yeah, and again we had an epic time coming home.
We did the whole Africa Overland Troup, Soo Mambassa.

Speaker 4 (37:55):
And Kenyon did.

Speaker 13 (37:56):
They ended seven weeks from there down to basically down
and across down to Cape.

Speaker 2 (38:00):
Town and people seemed to love their day.

Speaker 13 (38:04):
Yeah, amazing and we were lucky we had a Kenyan
national as a guide, so we escaped a lot of
the tourist stuff and yeah, and we had to we
had to go Bypassy and Gallicus. There was a bit
of a civil war going on, so we had to
keep away from there.

Speaker 2 (38:17):
Brilliant, keep it going, guys, all on all on the
old OI. Wish they came up with a better name
than OWI. Sounds a bit harsh, but we'll keep going
with us. Eight hundred and eighty ten eighty. Hello Andrew,
it's Marcus. Welcome, good evening, Geo.

Speaker 9 (38:34):
Marc.

Speaker 2 (38:34):
Here you go mate, good, thank you. Andrew.

Speaker 15 (38:37):
All right, well I went over to London for all
that y two k money, or was a computer programmer.

Speaker 2 (38:44):
I mean, look and I'm not I'm not in a
y two k denial, but I do think it's funny,
so thank you for that.

Speaker 4 (38:49):
Yep.

Speaker 15 (38:51):
And I ended up working for Sir Andrew Lloyd Webber. Wow. Yeah,
he had he set up a ticket system company which
did all the tickets for all the West End theaters
and stuff. But we wrote a general admission system for
the Millennium Dome which is now the O two Arena

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for those couple of years that was going. And then
that system got caught onto places like the Royal Yacht
Britannia and Westminster Abbey and Buckingham Colors.

Speaker 5 (39:23):
But the.

Speaker 15 (39:25):
Interesting story, or there's a couple age, but the interesting
story is of Buckingham Palace. Me and a guy who
lives up in Auckland. Now we were the only ones
past the Interpol security check because we didn't have Irish ancestry.

Speaker 2 (39:40):
Oh okay, what does that mean?

Speaker 15 (39:43):
We're able to go. We're able to go into Buckingham
Palace and work on when the Queen wasn't there. But
I wandered around on my own around the bottom of
Buckingham Palace. It's huge underneath there. It's amazing. But we
also did Westminster Abbey and I was there at midnight

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when Big Ben struck midnight with only the main chandelier
light on, and I tell you what, those statues all
come to life and scare them break out. They were terrifying.

Speaker 2 (40:17):
How did you get the job? Was the credit classic
case of just chancing on it or because it seems
as for a while there wasn't sort of the temping
agencies or stuff. How did you work that one out?

Speaker 4 (40:28):
Well?

Speaker 10 (40:29):
I got.

Speaker 15 (40:31):
I got really lucky, and that a guy that I
knew knew somebody and the fellow that was building this
ticketing system broke his legs skiing, and they were under
so much pressure to get this ticket system going for
the Dome that they just hired me and owned. The
rate was amazing back then those days, it was was

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thirty two p to the dollar. It was incredible time.

Speaker 3 (40:58):
Working and Andrew.

Speaker 2 (41:01):
You could do it, and you had no doubt you
could do it. You had the skills, right.

Speaker 15 (41:06):
Yeah, I had the skulls yet yet Yeah, well, I.

Speaker 2 (41:08):
Mean there's nothing worse than doing that, and there've been
a disasters that would be terrifying.

Speaker 15 (41:13):
Well, it would have been front pages of Sun. You know,
family from Birmingham couldn't buy any tickets to the Millennium Dome.
I mean it would have been front page of the Sun.
So we were under a lot of pressure. But it
was a great place to work. I end up going
out with a girl who worked for Westman's Abbey and
we went around one evening and the abbott met me

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and he took me around. We went up to the organ,
the main organ in Westlands at me and he said
do you play it? And I went, I can play
Chopsticks and he if he sits down and he starts
fling all the bottom part of Chopsticks, roaring, and he goes,
now your turning and I'm going on the main organ
at west You don't beat that one man.

Speaker 2 (41:56):
Hey, what was actually in the Millennium Dome. I've forgotten
about that. It was a big deal, But what was
actual displayer? What was going on there?

Speaker 15 (42:05):
It was supposedly, ah, a lot of stuff that Britain
over over the millennium that the you know, the technology
and time, and there were sort of sorts of these,
you know, really sort of strange exhibitions and it never
really worked.

Speaker 2 (42:24):
No, it was a it was a dud, wasn't it.

Speaker 15 (42:27):
No, it was a dud, that was But the O
two Arenio, the stadium itself was unbelievable.

Speaker 2 (42:32):
Okay, okay, So that they're two different were they two
different things? The O two Arena and the Millium Dome
with two different things?

Speaker 8 (42:42):
Is that right?

Speaker 5 (42:43):
No?

Speaker 15 (42:43):
No, No, they're exactly the same thing. They just pulled
everything out and made it.

Speaker 2 (42:46):
Okay, understand Yep, that's what I thought. Andrew appreciate that.

Speaker 4 (42:50):
Thank you.

Speaker 2 (42:51):
Twenty four past nine, Marcus till twelve met good evening, Marcus.
How are you good, Matt?

Speaker 16 (42:58):
Yeah, I was just listening to all these people reminiscing
about being in the UK in the late nineties. I
was lucky enough in nineteen ninety eight to be sleep
fell on the New Zealand and Farmers exchanged for six
months of home hosting in Great Britain, in Ireland and
Northern Ireland, and yeah, I got to see some pretty
interesting things. Being in Northern Ireland just after they signed

(43:20):
the East the Peace Deal and we all got help
back in Scotland because the Orange Men they're all a
bit of a I sort of a you know, a
bit of a march and you just don't realize, you
get the countries like that, how religion is such a big,
you know, a big divider in the community. And we
were there at the time of the Omar bomb. We're
actually in Omar. It was a country there and all

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the exchanges from around the world from there with their
hosts and one of the post Cterians. You know, something's
not right here because the guard or the Guardia which
was you know, the Northern Ireland place, we're running around
and pushing people around and they sort of said to us,
so you know, we had enough and we said yep.
So we met down the road out of the village
to the local park to meet up and that's when

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the bomb went off and unfortunately all the people got
pushed towards the bomb because the instructions will be the
bomb was was wrong and yeah, seventeen people got killed
and three of our exchanges to leave their house there
at least because Dave ospilations or family members in the
bomb blast.

Speaker 2 (44:21):
Wow, tell me what the what the program is? Is
it a farming exchange thing?

Speaker 5 (44:26):
Is it? Is it?

Speaker 16 (44:27):
Yeah, it's a farm exchange. So each year I know
they still do it. There's aspected in the late nineties,
but two New Zealand doesn't go over to the UK
for six months and while we're away there'll be two
from the British Isles here in the home host the net.
So yeah, so I got to say much of England, Wales, Scotland,
in Northern Ireland, in east and you know that's still now.

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I got great free instant.

Speaker 2 (44:51):
The last Maybe they couldn't teach keys much about farming,
could They've only got about four sheep, haven't they.

Speaker 5 (44:59):
Some?

Speaker 16 (44:59):
You know, I just had some big places and some
places that did make me laugh. I was in Wales
and North Wales and I was staying with Stanley and
the officials speaker from the bus Well government of something
was coming to counter the sheep, and between them and
the neighbors there was a mile of travel to the road.
So while they speak to a counted buelow sheep, he

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was going around to the to the next property, and
between them were filing the sheep back through the next
neighbor and he was clippery, you know. So many things
like that, but the moans alight. We made some wonderful
people and up to make some things. But the biggest
highlights was they had the national conference every year and
a sither and talk key L Blackpool, and they made

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three four thousand young farmers to see our talk KEYL
Blackpool at a certain time of the year and being
exchanged when we stayed with all the big brass of
the young farmers. And I was up to the north
of England, setside Newcastle, and I was coming down. On
the day that they came down was my birthday, see
I then, so they found out the bus my birthday.
And by the time I got to talk Key about

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nine hours later on was an ft stator to talk
to anybody and exchange. He lady sort of pucked me
off up to the hotel room and I got up
the next morning on the early so I went down
to breakfast and as my gids were sitting there and
I sat, you know, he said good morning, and it
was the Duke and Wishminster, the Queen's cousin, and he
was the patron of Young Farmers of the just that

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that conference in his head standing down and the patron
so got chatting to him. And then when I was
in the Westminster area, he asked me to go and
have a look at their stake while I was here.
And the most loveliest meaning ever made.

Speaker 2 (46:39):
We know his front handle. What's his name?

Speaker 17 (46:42):
Ah?

Speaker 16 (46:43):
God? And I think his name was Richard, Richard's something
rather Windsor. But yeah, he's Queen's first cousin.

Speaker 2 (46:49):
And he was not just not you Grosvenor, is it?

Speaker 15 (46:53):
I thought you've got me there, Mark.

Speaker 2 (46:55):
I'm not good on the rolls, but I'll find out.
I think they're the Grosvenor family. Yeah, seventh Duke, and
I think that's the way it goes. Nice to talk.
Keep it going, guys, all about your OI. Get in
touch Marcus Still twelve evening, Marcus, dear Old Trevor telling
us stories could have been a little believab until Rods

(47:16):
to it own man you other, Well there we go.
I absolutely love my sky, had paid twice for it.
A lot of people talk about Rod and Manchester United.
Get in touch. I believe everyone with what they say.
I my head of fact check do you own fact chicking?

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Get in touch Marcus Still twelve. Someone's emailed me some clippings.
What sort of clippings. By the way, there has been
a fatal between pay Here Tour and Palmerston North One
person dead. Single vehicle crash between pay Here Tour and
Palmerston about five pm. That's the latest there. Thank you,

(48:01):
Thank you Kiwi students. This is this is the ship
my friend and I went to the UK in nineteen
seventy five. My parents were horrified when they read the
article Kiwi Students cruise to Britain in floating love nest
accusations of loud love making, streaking and public displace of

(48:24):
sexual intercourse of passages of border liner traveling from Australia
to Britain. Will be investigating the ship's owner, Sure Civil.
The passengers aboard the ship, the Ocean Monarch, included five
hundred young New Zealanders who had paid reduced student fares.
Bring it on A sure Savil spokesman said elderly passengers

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had made the accusations after the ship docked at Southampton. Goodness,
would mind going on a farm exchange? Julie Marcus welcome,
good evening, George.

Speaker 11 (48:59):
Marcus, Julie Chora. I did my OE from ninety six
to two thousand and one, five.

Speaker 2 (49:09):
Years out of it, good good stuff, yep.

Speaker 10 (49:11):
Yeah.

Speaker 11 (49:11):
Yeah. And just this weekend gone seventeen of us met
on Waitiki Island from some came from Australia and the
rest of us from New Zealand. And we were all
connected in London back in those days. We all lived

(49:32):
in South Ealing in two different houses, just a variety
of flatmates, and so yeah, we connected again on Waikiki
just this weekend, gone fantastic.

Speaker 2 (49:44):
So when you when you were in England, what did
you say ninety six? Is that what you got there?

Speaker 11 (49:51):
Ninety six? Yep to two thousand and one, Yeah, did you?

Speaker 2 (49:56):
Did you mainly hang with Kiwi's? Is that the way
it worked for you?

Speaker 11 (50:02):
Pretty much?

Speaker 2 (50:03):
Yeah? So you went to a flat full of Kiwis
and the neighbors flat full of Kiwis, and you became
a big tribe of Kiwi's. Is that right?

Speaker 11 (50:10):
Exactly? Yeah, pretty much. But I also worked in the
hospital over there, and so I did make a lot
of English friends as well, and I did go traveling
a lot, and not to say I didn't spend a
lot of time in the pubs as well, but yeah,

(50:32):
certainly did a lot of travel and yeah, did you
get the heat?

Speaker 2 (50:37):
Did you get the Heathrow injection?

Speaker 4 (50:41):
No?

Speaker 2 (50:46):
No, For those that don't know, I think I think
it's the evene goes to England puts about ten kg's,
don't they because it's sort of pubs and sort of
eating fried food and stuff. But well done you anyway,
exactly see were you did? You decide what was it?
Touch and go that you might stay there permanently, so

(51:06):
it was all what you always knew you were going
to be there for a while. I'm fascinated by that.

Speaker 11 (51:14):
I think most people stayed there for two years because
they were that's what they offered. Back then. You could
work there for two years.

Speaker 4 (51:22):
But I.

Speaker 11 (51:25):
Was able to be sponsored being a nurse, so I
was able to stay on. But after five years, yeah,
I kind of had enough. It was time to come home.
Time to come back to New Zealand.

Speaker 2 (51:38):
Did you did you do nursing knowing that it was
going to be Was that part of your decision for
nursing knowing that it works so well with ois because
it works fantastically, doesn't it?

Speaker 11 (51:46):
Well, yeah, it does work fantastically, but I didn't know
how well it worked until I went over there and
started agency nursing. You could get a job anywhere.

Speaker 2 (51:57):
You thought of going back.

Speaker 11 (51:59):
I am going to go back. Yeah, not not to work,
not to work, but revisit some of those places, but
also to do some more traveling.

Speaker 18 (52:10):
And yeah yeah wow.

Speaker 2 (52:13):
So yeah, the person organ I haven't heard about England
flat for you, and I quite like that, quite like
the idea.

Speaker 11 (52:20):
That every five years, but we've decided to bring it
forward every three or four years. Wow, you know things
things for that happening when you're getting in your fifties.

Speaker 2 (52:31):
But you would have had Aussie mates as well, would
you duly in those two houses?

Speaker 11 (52:35):
Yes, yes, certainly did.

Speaker 2 (52:36):
Did they come across the Wahiki for it?

Speaker 11 (52:39):
Yeah they did? Yeah, Yeah, loved, loved.

Speaker 17 (52:42):
Who'd you have the W'd you have?

Speaker 10 (52:44):
The do?

Speaker 11 (52:46):
We still stayed in a villa, a big, big villa,
and had lunch on the Saturday at the mud brick
Yep vineyards.

Speaker 2 (52:57):
Brilliant.

Speaker 11 (52:58):
You had just a lot of catching up and reminiscing
and yeah, stibulous. Oh it was, and it was because
it was the twenty five years. It was silver dressed up?

Speaker 2 (53:08):
Oh so does that mean what would you silver fabric?

Speaker 5 (53:11):
Is that?

Speaker 2 (53:12):
Would that be quite difficult? Would it?

Speaker 11 (53:13):
Or it wasn't a little bit difficult. But my partner
and I, him and I went as rap stars and
we had silver caps and silver chains and yeah, came
out of breakdowancing to the beastie boys.

Speaker 2 (53:31):
God bed, I wasn't the fair on the way back?
And so it were you half cut on? I stayed
the night. That's all right to it's like a hen
party when you're coming back on the fairy, right.

Speaker 18 (53:40):
Yes?

Speaker 2 (53:41):
Was there a prize for the best Was there a
prize for the best dressed?

Speaker 11 (53:46):
No, there wasn't night. No.

Speaker 2 (53:49):
No, if you had a walk on song, that's pretty good.

Speaker 9 (53:52):
Ah.

Speaker 11 (53:53):
Well kind of kick started it because everyone was sort
of sitting around and wondering when everybody was going to
get into their silver attire. So we just sort of thought,
let's let's just go and do it. So we did it,
and then everybody else followed in their silver jackets and
dresses and jumpsuits. And somebody came as a molecule. So

(54:17):
blew up a whole lot of little silver balloons and
strung them to himself, and he's got asthma as well,
so ages blowing out the.

Speaker 2 (54:32):
Balloon was either silt. Was he a silver molecule or
was he a particular molecule?

Speaker 9 (54:37):
He was.

Speaker 11 (54:39):
He was a silver molecule. He didn't really say what
kind of molecule he was. But he's this really big
guy and he's got orange orange hair. He's got a
board here or massive orange beard. And he walked out
with all these balloons taped to him. Oh hilarious.

Speaker 2 (54:59):
Nice to hear from you, Jiddy, Thank you very very
much for that. It's all about thee. These are God,
We're getting them there. Lets get and better countries. As
a molecule. I washed dishes at the country House Hotel,
County Entram Monday to Friday, went to Ultravox and Disky,

(55:20):
Dick Dixie's Midnight Runners and Bill fastud Emails, Way, fun times.
All about the OE. That's what we want. You got one,
give it to us. What do you got? Where'd you go?
How'd you go? Where'd you go? Where'd you go? How'd
you get there? That's what I'm trying to say. Did
you guy somewhere interesting? And define interesting? I can't Donna Hello,

(55:44):
it's Marcus.

Speaker 5 (55:44):
Welcome home, Marcus. How are you well? Good?

Speaker 2 (55:48):
Donna? All good?

Speaker 8 (55:48):
Thank you good?

Speaker 6 (55:50):
So just chewing done.

Speaker 10 (55:52):
You're talking about the way either they pre pre children
owe way back in the in the eighties and a
post oi in the two thousands. Yes, so they were
quite quite different trips. So the first trip pre children
was just a year traveling with my then husband. We

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saved up for quite a few years just so that
we could we could travel for a year. So we
had flown via Singapore to Greece and basically started our
traveling there and so we sort of took rents, spent

(56:38):
a lot of time in Europe. We had had a
eurail pass for a couple of couple of months, and
that was really good at saving on accommodation. Every second
trip or every second night would be on the train,
so that overnight train, so that we would be traveling
and then waking up in a destination. So it sort

(56:59):
of saved on accommodation and that right, and so that
that was a really good trup. Absolutely exhausted at the
end of it.

Speaker 2 (57:09):
We were did you work with was the working oe
or just a cruising oe?

Speaker 10 (57:13):
No, that that was just a travel where hence we
knew what would just be a travel travel one. The
idea was to start the family on when we got back,
So I was pregnant when I got off the plane
back back here when we came back a year later.
But the second, the second trip we left left New Zealand.

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I was still married then, but I'm not anymore. But
we left here in two thousand and seven, and the
idea was to just go forward for six months, and
we went flu into Munich to catch up with some
friends that we had made on the first trip, German friends.

(58:00):
So we stayed in Munich for a lot of while,
and that's that's another orient itself. But anyway, our arrival.

Speaker 16 (58:10):
In London was to.

Speaker 10 (58:14):
The beginning of the Tour de France. I've always been
interested in the Tour de France. I just think three
weeks of biking these huge distances is just awesome. You know,
the thutness level and the drugs used and.

Speaker 16 (58:29):
All of that.

Speaker 10 (58:30):
But anyway, it was starting in two thousand and seven,
it was starting in London, and so we arrived there
for that, and I've managed to get work. I work
in an early childhood, so it was really easy for
me to get work over in London.

Speaker 17 (58:48):
Yeah.

Speaker 10 (58:49):
So six months came and.

Speaker 15 (58:52):
Went and.

Speaker 10 (58:55):
Stephen said to me, shall we get that? Took it
home and I went, oh, you know what, I'm really
not ready to go Homecress yet, Let's just stay a
little bit longer. Ask me again in another three months.
So three months after that, are you ready to go home?

Speaker 4 (59:10):
No?

Speaker 3 (59:10):
No, no, no, not yet.

Speaker 10 (59:11):
Tell you what I'll tell you when I'm ready to
go home. So we were. We were there for nearly
six years. In the end, we were there, and so
a couple of years we had been there and I
said to Stare, I says, we've seen the beginning of
the Tour de France. Wouldn't it be great to go
and see the end of that. So we organized a

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trip to Paris and we saw the end of it
there and that that was really cool. And then just
before of the year before we were coming back, I
said to Steve, we've seen the beginning and we've seen
the end of the Tour de France. Why don't we
go up into the mountains and watch a couple of

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mountain stages. And so he went and did some research
and we found a little bus truck and over three
days we saw three different mountain stages of the Tour
de France, so that is really good. And they started
they started the push for volunteers for the twenty twelve

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Olympics there in London, and we thought, wouldn't that be
an awesome thing to be part of because the Olympics
are really never going to come to New Zealand, so
we went and put on the application for that and
we never heard and never heard and never heard. So

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we thought, oh, let's try and at least go and
watch some of the games. And you had to go
into a ballot for these things, so you had to
basically come up with the money as if you were
going to buy the tickets, but you went into a ballot.
So we went a bit crazy and tried lots of

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different sports that to go and see and never won
any of the ballots. And it's like, oh, you know,
by this time, it was getting closer and closer to
the to the games. So I said to Steve, you
know what, I think I'm ready to go home now,
and if they don't want to set for the Olympic sleeps,

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just go home. So we decided, yep, okay, So Steve
always wanted to go to Beijing, and I always wanted
to go to Moscow, so we thought this was going
to be the final of her aunt, so we'll go
via Moscow and Beijing on the way home. So we
did that. Saint Petersburg was included on that trip, so

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everything was booked for our one way took it back
home when we get an email going come for an
interview to be a volunteer at the Olympics, and there,
I don't know, I'm ready to go home. We've got
everything bold But anyway, we went along for the for
the interview, and and so you go on of a

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big group. Sebastian how I was there and he does
the book her ar and I'm sitting at the back
with an attitude of this grape I sort of want
to go home to. And then so after they do
all the big spiel and the to broader all up
with the enthusiasm and everything, you go into these little
cubicles for a one on one interview. So I was

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sort of slumps in the chair there a bit, and
she said to me, oh, what what would you like
to do with the Olympics. And I said, well, I
know what I don't want to do.

Speaker 9 (01:02:38):
She said, what's that?

Speaker 10 (01:02:39):
I said, I don't want to stand in the car
park directing traffic. I said, I like interacting with people
and and and so that's what I want to do.
She said, well, whereabouts in the Olympics. And I says, well,
if I can choose, I said, the velodrome would be
really good. I said, because the Kiwis do really well
on the on the cycling and stuff. And and it

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ended it ended up that's where I was and the vlad.

Speaker 2 (01:03:08):
I thought, that's what you're going to say, Donna. I've
got to run. But that's a neat conversation. Thank you
very much. That here Roberts, Marcus, welcome.

Speaker 8 (01:03:14):
Good evening, Hi, rob Yeah, yeah, Marcus, how are you good?

Speaker 2 (01:03:18):
Thank you good good.

Speaker 4 (01:03:20):
Yeah.

Speaker 8 (01:03:20):
Well, I've done my ie to Europe and North Africa,
but I'm about to go on another one to North America.
Oh yeah, in July, June, June July to a place,
the very last place you can go to by road

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in Canada, and it's a place called tuk to Yak
and it's the well just recently, I think that twenty fifteen,
the last one hundred and eighty k's were opened up
from a town called in Nuvik, and it's it's called

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the Dempster Highway. So you go from Dawson City who
took the book, and it's it's just a it's just
a continuous gravel, gravel, dirt, dirt road.

Speaker 2 (01:04:23):
So is it in the Arctic? I mean it's further
almost further any part of Alaska, isn't it. I'm looking
look at your escan line and looking across there. Yeah,
it's kind of an album. It looks like beaten copper.
It's full of lakes, isn't it. It's amazing looking.

Speaker 8 (01:04:39):
Yeah, it's on the boat at sea, so it's not
right on the Arctic Circle. So so you know, if
you if you go, are you going?

Speaker 2 (01:04:48):
Are you going on your own?

Speaker 15 (01:04:50):
No?

Speaker 8 (01:04:50):
No, Look an old schoolmate of mine. We went through
primary school, intermediate and high school together and then we
we sort of lost contact for for twenty five years,
and then we're caught and caught up with each other
in the last twenty and we're both motorcycle and fuias.

Speaker 2 (01:05:07):
And we've hired you'll be going on bikes.

Speaker 8 (01:05:10):
Yeah, we've hired motorcycles out of Vancouver for thirty two days,
and you know that they're adventure bikes, so they can
you know, we're going to go on the highways and
and we're going off beaten tracks as well, our old
railway old railway tracks, and we're doing some of that
big lakes and gold mines and but but yeah, the

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goal is to get get to took Theok and then
we're going to cross over the top of the World
Highway into Alaska and come down through Kitchen can June
now and then cross back over into Canada.

Speaker 2 (01:05:48):
Do you know what the population of top Tai Toctoaktok
would be?

Speaker 8 (01:05:54):
It may be a thousand people and it might probably.

Speaker 2 (01:05:57):
It's probably anyway, is that right?

Speaker 8 (01:05:59):
There'll be mainly yes, yeah, yeah, yeah, so I'd imagine
there's that may be mineral all's up there, you know
a bit of mining or whatever. But but yeah, that'd
probably be pretty sub subsystem.

Speaker 2 (01:06:14):
So you need to get some There's an airstrip there,
so I guess if you're in trouble, you can fly. Yes,
that looks fascinating.

Speaker 8 (01:06:20):
Yeah, well well that that was the only way you
could get there prior to twenty seventeen was to fly in.

Speaker 4 (01:06:28):
Yeah.

Speaker 8 (01:06:28):
Yeah, so you we're doing that.

Speaker 2 (01:06:31):
Are you taking Triumph bikes or no.

Speaker 8 (01:06:34):
No, We've hired Honda trans Alps Year seven fifties and
they're all kitted up. Yeah, we can get get hard
top boxes and tenniers or soft and all the insurance.
Roadside rescue is a year. We've gone the whole.

Speaker 6 (01:06:53):
Hog, and.

Speaker 2 (01:06:55):
I'd like to talk to you before you go, after
you come back from I'm just going to the news.
But look, that's an amazing looking place. I never heard
of that. That's fascinating. So you google that up. It's
quite easy to find. Just spell as he said it
as Susie Marcus. Welcome. Hi, Susie, Hi, Susi Hi.

Speaker 19 (01:07:12):
How are you good?

Speaker 2 (01:07:13):
Thanks Susie.

Speaker 19 (01:07:15):
Excellent. Hey, I just listening to Rob before the news
break there. I spent a year in Canada back in
nineteen ninety three and I went to a really small
community in Saskatchewan, so one of the more inland provinces,
and it was way up north and it was the
most amazing experience.

Speaker 2 (01:07:33):
Tell me about how you came to be there and
what you were doing there.

Speaker 19 (01:07:36):
Well, look, I can actually remember the bend in the
road where I had gone to look at doing one
of those holiday summer exchanges, and I remember meeting other
students obviously a little bit older than me, and some
of them were in New Zealand for a twelve month period,
and I can honestly remember the bend in the road
and I was living in Hawksba at the time, where
I said to Mum, actually, hey, I think I don't

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want to go for that summer program. I'm going to
go and see if I can try and get on
a twelve month one. And it was honestly one of
the best things I ever did. It was just incredible
and it's gone on to always be such a great
foundation I think for the rest of my life. I
came back to New Zealand after that twelve month period,
did two degrees at Victoria University, and then left again

(01:08:20):
and went off to the UK. And it's just the
people you meet and the experiences you do that are
just with you forever. No one can evitate those away.
And I think it's really shaped who I am as
a person. But also it's made me a really grateful
person all my life, because I believe we've all got
choices to make where we choose to live, where we
choose to work, what we choose to do for work,

(01:08:43):
how we bring in our incomes, and what we choose
to do with it. And it makes me really satisfied.

Speaker 2 (01:08:49):
What were you doing for the year there?

Speaker 6 (01:08:52):
So I was in school.

Speaker 19 (01:08:53):
So I went into a new school, made all new friends,
did the school curriculum, participated in all the activities. Obviously
way northern Canada. It was forty five degrees minus forty
five when I arrived.

Speaker 2 (01:09:06):
And obviously so you're of a school age, yep, I was.

Speaker 19 (01:09:12):
I was seventeen when I left New Zealand.

Speaker 2 (01:09:14):
So tell me about I didn't understand the bit about
the curve in the road. Tell me that again, and
I oh, okay.

Speaker 19 (01:09:19):
I can just remember, you know, like I can just
remember clearly when you make those decisions in life to
make a change, to think to yourself, actually I can
do this. Why shouldn't I do this? Believing in yourself,
you know, having that confidence.

Speaker 2 (01:09:33):
So you convinced your parents to go on in exchange?
Is that what you're saying you managed to do.

Speaker 19 (01:09:38):
Yeah, and just believing in yourself, you know, you're saying,
I actually can do this. I can leave all of
my friends, all of my family, and in those days.
I think we talked like once a month unless it
was your birthday. There was no emails, there was no
There was the old sax machine, and we even made
up those things like tape letters where you would talk

(01:09:59):
into a cassette and then put it in the mail
and send it home and then they would talk over
it and send it back.

Speaker 6 (01:10:06):
They yeah.

Speaker 19 (01:10:08):
And so now I have a daughter who is seventeen
years old and she is living her best life, also
on an overseas experience. She has gone off to work
in a boarding school north of London.

Speaker 2 (01:10:21):
Goodness, and what did you see it? To Canada? We
are scared?

Speaker 11 (01:10:26):
No, not at all, not at all.

Speaker 19 (01:10:28):
Look, she's just met up with one of my friends
in Sweden that I had who was living in Canada
with me, another exchange student, and we've kept in touch
for these thirty years. And she's just been to stay
with her and her family for the week last week.

Speaker 2 (01:10:42):
Wow.

Speaker 19 (01:10:43):
And it's exceptional. And people often do say to me,
do you worry about her? And I'm like, look, we
can all worry about each other down the road. There's
no assurances in life is here, but there is an
insurance that you can have a great life and you
create what you want into your life, what you want.

Speaker 2 (01:11:01):
Nice to hear from me, Susie Rowan MICUs welcome.

Speaker 6 (01:11:05):
Hello, Marcus. Like to share with you that I went
on and ie with two other friends in nineteen sixty
seven and we went by shop and it took six
weeks because the sewers Canal was closed in those days,
so it was quite a long six weeks. But we
visited wonderful ports and we're able to get off the

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shop and experience a day in each port. Melbourne Peace,
Urban Cape down.

Speaker 2 (01:11:35):
A markis Yeah, Melbourne per Sorry, I'm just picture. I'm
just picturing you on the map because of course I
had to dispense with the sewers Canal, so I'm just
following you around, yeah.

Speaker 6 (01:11:47):
Around Portugal, Canary Islands and then into Chilbury Docks.

Speaker 2 (01:11:52):
So six weeks and all your meals are provided, aren't they?
It is all inclusive, so fantastic.

Speaker 6 (01:12:01):
And then we so I had two years there. We
were scored each we decided that we wouldn't teach, so
we got a job in the matchbox toy factory and
Hackney work and we go to the station and say
could I have an adult return ticket to Hackney Whick please,
and they'd say, I beg your pardon, so we would

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repeat it and then they'd say, oh, you mean Acney.

Speaker 2 (01:12:27):
So what would you do with the what would you
do the match box factory?

Speaker 6 (01:12:31):
Well, we had we stood at a revolt conveyor belt
and my task was to put the wheels on the
end of the axles and then put it in a
press and press it so they didn't discuss the end
of the axles so they didn't fall off, and it
was very much We did an evening shift and it
was very much work to rule. You didn't dig it
up and help anybody else, so you'd be told that

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wasn't your job, don't you know, Sit down and do
what you're supposed to do and make sure you take
a toilet break. And then before just before finishing at
ten o'clock, just before the hooter went, the machines would
slow down and the ladies would slip the coats on,
and the first couple of nights we were sort of
round back against the wall with the rush went past
us and after to catch the battles home, and then

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after a couple of nights we were part of the
rush as well, but we didn't last very long. We
did actually go teaching, and that was much better. In
those days. You didn't have to go through an agency.
You just went and they said, we welcome you with
open arms. When would you like to start? So we
did a lot of relief teaching and bought a little
Austin a thirty five car and drove around the continent

(01:13:37):
for three months. And yes, that that was a great experience.

Speaker 2 (01:13:41):
Now what what year was this?

Speaker 6 (01:13:44):
Sixty seven?

Speaker 2 (01:13:45):
Sixty see, and people will want to know the name
of the ship.

Speaker 6 (01:13:49):
Well, it was called the thing which school you went to?
It was either the Amalia or the Himalaya or.

Speaker 2 (01:13:55):
The Himaliah Himalia that seems surprisingly heard it said, miss
broounced like that Himalia.

Speaker 6 (01:14:02):
And we were on e dep because you would buy
the cheapest test that you could, so we were pretty
much on the water line. It was a six speeds cabin,
which was quite unusual.

Speaker 2 (01:14:12):
And you were married at the stage where you did you.

Speaker 6 (01:14:14):
Say three single girls?

Speaker 2 (01:14:18):
I see what you're saying. Yep, oale teacher, yp yep, yep, yep, yep,
okay yep.

Speaker 6 (01:14:22):
So when the water got a bit rough, the little
Kevin then would come in and push the big metal
cover across the portole. You know, you could sub see
the water. I think to ask. We were on a
deck that was just by the water level, and.

Speaker 2 (01:14:35):
I would imagine the boats those days, compared to the
boats today, would have would have been tiny, because the
boats these days are so massive. Would there have been
a cop a couple of hundred.

Speaker 6 (01:14:44):
On it at least? I would say, yeah, I did.
I did want to know the weight of it, but
I can't. It was originally a two class ship that
it sailed, and when we went on it was just
a one class ship.

Speaker 2 (01:14:58):
Yes, And did you decide? Did you you and your
girlfriend stay together and then decided it was time to
come home? Is that the way it works? Well?

Speaker 6 (01:15:05):
Well, young girl met a doctor and from he got
on Sydney on the ship and they caught it. The
two years were away and she's lived in Brisbane for
the last fifty plus years.

Speaker 4 (01:15:15):
Wow.

Speaker 6 (01:15:16):
And the other girl we went up to Carlisle. We
got a teaching position up there and we went to
a young farmer's meeting one night and the other girl
met a young farmer and so she's married to him
and lived over in Carlisle. So well over fifty years.
And so I came home and married the builder across
the road. I'm going home. I'm going home to tell

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the tales. So well, we came home to tell the tales.

Speaker 2 (01:15:41):
And I guess it means you've got somewhere to stay
in Brisbane and Carlisle. Now, yeah, that's exciting.

Speaker 6 (01:15:47):
I've I've been back to England a couple of times
and the last time I went, I went with my
friends from Brisbane and we went up to Carlis. We
sort of did a down memory and then down Memory
Lane trop so that was pretty good and we had
a we implied you did in those days. You applied
to go to the garden party at Buckingham Palace, and
you applied to go into the royal enclosures got races.

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So we were able to do those things too, which
was quite good. You'd all dressed up in your posters
that you brought from Mark from Spencer's or a British
home store.

Speaker 2 (01:16:21):
Now how many years? How many years did you do?

Speaker 20 (01:16:23):
Two?

Speaker 6 (01:16:25):
And it was a it was a wonderful life, it
was looking back at you were young, you had no responsibilities,
but it was a false life really, like we worked
for a while and spent our money by traveling around
and realized that we couldn't keep that up. So it
was sort of like one girl, Well, Heather came home
with risdom girl came home, got married, but she had

(01:16:47):
a family reunion to come home to. You said, that
was sort of a catalyst in a way that said, right,
we've had enough, we'll go. We'll go back to New Zealand.

Speaker 2 (01:16:54):
Did you did you have to ship back or head planes?
Come on? By?

Speaker 5 (01:16:57):
Then?

Speaker 2 (01:16:58):
We flew back because of the just because travel had
changed in those two years.

Speaker 6 (01:17:04):
She had bought a turn to John the ship that
we were able to exchange it to fly home.

Speaker 5 (01:17:10):
Okay, I'll see.

Speaker 6 (01:17:12):
Actually the strange thing was that we got upgraded from
Hong Kong, which was quite special in those days. Virgin
I just wanted to see.

Speaker 2 (01:17:23):
That was and it builders a pretty practical guy to
Mary always they always had to do it work out? Well,
don't they build your house? Definitely nice to hear from
your Rowland, Thank you Alow. He's a great. But I
don't agree with young people going on in OI before
they have paid back the student loans to using and
textplayers and well and the fire Hayservery good on you, Anne,

(01:17:45):
well look at you. Of course you know they wouldn't
have had a student loan, Anne, chief as creepers, Marcus.
I went backpacking with my partner for my OI, came
home front pecking. They're thirty now be souvenir. Ever, Marcus,

(01:18:10):
isn't that highway on the ice road truck?

Speaker 4 (01:18:12):
Is?

Speaker 2 (01:18:12):
I'm sure it is. Marcus. Carey would have mentioned a
book about the Battle of Britain on Monday during a
call and please can you let me know the book? Text?

Speaker 5 (01:18:22):
Here?

Speaker 2 (01:18:23):
Text Helen, Oh, get in touch, Marcus. When I when

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I lived in London in nineteen ninety two ninety five,
I worked as a maternity nurse, amazing jobs. I worked
for Orthodox Jewish family. Mostly I had no idea how
they lived, so a real learning curve. One of the
places I lived that a massive safe in my room
and on a Friday people knocked on the front door
handing over a ticket and we're given money from the safe.
The mother with the same age as me twenty years
but boy were all different. I stayed with them in Jerusalem.

(01:19:11):
We called it Heathrow Hips. Marcus. The last Saturday before
I left London, nineteen ninty one. I was lucky enough
to be let into Abbey Road and stood in the
main recording studio where the Beatles recorded many of their
great songs, Goosebumps. I don't think there was a song
called Goosebumps like they had Goosebumps been in the abbey,
not the abby, abby, abby studios. Now an exciting email

(01:19:47):
here even Dan will be interested in this. Hi, Marcus,
thanks so much for the meatball chattel last night. We're
all tough to hear you taking interest in our little
Hawk's Bay delicacies. I'm not sure if you ever take
your show on the road or get to take a

(01:20:08):
night off, but please consider this infination an invitation to
join us at New Zealand's first ever Meatball Festival and
Hastings Friday the March fourteenth. We would happily assist with logistics.
We have twenty five different meatball creations ready to roll
on the night and now excited to have New Zealand's
chef Ben Bailey and Peter Gordon joining the lineup alongside

(01:20:28):
the local chefs and bakers. Peters, well we know about Peter.
He's doing the Wagyu and the kaw kawa. Gosh, everyone's
doing the karwa kara that what was the latest thing?
Karaka is good for? I see it's got some property
they found it's what is it?

Speaker 4 (01:20:43):
Is it?

Speaker 2 (01:20:44):
I think it's a New Zealand's version of a zen pic.
They also are they want to see me a limited
edition Dick Frazelle Meatball T shirt because you're going to
be out there launching his memoir called Hastings. Now, you're
a delight, Vicky Roebuck, and it's always nice to get

(01:21:07):
a shout out in a return shout out, made my day,
Vicky Roebuck. Do we take the show on the road now,
I've got strong feelings about taking the show on the road.
You can't take the show on the road because your

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commitment is always to the audience. So that's the trouble
for that. But yeah, I'm not quite sure how to
serve those masters. But anyway, it's nice to be asked.
It's all about the Ali's good evening, Lindley. It is Marcus.
Welcome him, Marcus, Hi, Linley, Hi.

Speaker 18 (01:21:49):
I'm lucky enough. I've had two OEI experiences. First when
I trained as a nurse, then when I finished that
wind overseas for two and a half years, mostly to
the UK, but I also managed to go to Israel
for three months.

Speaker 8 (01:22:05):
Work on a boots.

Speaker 5 (01:22:07):
Wow.

Speaker 18 (01:22:07):
And yes, it was pretty cool.

Speaker 2 (01:22:12):
So much about the kabutzers. Now they're all the things
in the seven here where I was on a kabots,
weren't they.

Speaker 18 (01:22:17):
Yeah, that's pretty much when I was there at the
end of the seventies, and that we did on the
kibbutz and you'd get free board and accommodation as long
as you worked for them during the day.

Speaker 7 (01:22:27):
Wow.

Speaker 2 (01:22:29):
And what was the other one? You went nursing to England,
did you?

Speaker 18 (01:22:32):
Yeah, I went nursing and then while I was over there,
I did my bid with free Yes.

Speaker 11 (01:22:37):
But then then I came back to New Zealand.

Speaker 18 (01:22:39):
But then after about six years I was Then I
entered and worked in Africa in a bush Hospitals set
up a maternity or midward free training school at in
the remote hospital out in the middle of nowhere in Zimbabwe.

Speaker 2 (01:22:52):
What was that like?

Speaker 18 (01:22:55):
Well, it was a total culture shock.

Speaker 2 (01:22:58):
But when you're talking in the middle of nowhere, we're
talking like giraffes and the boss sort of stuff. It's
hard to imagine, I don't really no Africa, okay.

Speaker 18 (01:23:08):
So we were in the low Valve, the lowlands. It
was what's called communal lands, so it was all villagers.
There were no the nearest shops which just over one
hundred kilometers away. So most of the Africans living around
the hospital compound were living in ron darvels, which were

(01:23:31):
the native huts and that you know, with the dirt
floors and that and cooking over smoky fires and things
like that. So often the woman coming into the birth
would travel ten to twenty kilometers to get to the
hospital and we'd have a what was called them a timber,
a shelter for them to shelter in until they had

(01:23:52):
went in ca labour. But they'd all cook over and
open fire, so there was that smoky smell around them,
and that.

Speaker 2 (01:24:01):
Who were you working for? Then? Was there an aid
organization that you'd be there? Is that the way it
worked did those days?

Speaker 18 (01:24:07):
Yes, we went out with the volunteer service aboard and
here so went out that we were employed by the government.
So it was just eight years after.

Speaker 12 (01:24:18):
The War of Liberation, that's right, okay, Wow.

Speaker 18 (01:24:21):
Mcgarthy was in power, and that it was quite remote
and that had had to get the local buses into
town if I wanted to go shopping, and that it
took about two hours to get there.

Speaker 2 (01:24:33):
And how long did you do that for?

Speaker 18 (01:24:35):
Was there two and a half years?

Speaker 2 (01:24:37):
It's a long time. And were there other English speaking
people there with you?

Speaker 18 (01:24:42):
The hospital was originally a missionary hospital set up by
the Southern Baptists, so there were some American missionaries in there,
but there was also a high school and there are
some British volunteer service people there. A couple of Germans
in the Canadian as well, so they were school teachers.

Speaker 2 (01:25:06):
Firstly, I've got headlines, Lily, but thank you so much
for that call. Enjoyed all the texts apart from Anne,
He's worried about the student loans. Fridge read the room, Anne,
what's the plan?

Speaker 18 (01:25:20):
An?

Speaker 2 (01:25:22):
They reckon drakes to a news it to news in
and it might be canceled and breaking news from the
Daily Mail. Admittedly, NATO scrambles warplanes in Poland, as Putin
uses nuclear capable strategic bombers to pound neighboring Ukraine.

Speaker 10 (01:25:46):
Yeah, so.

Speaker 2 (01:25:54):
I kind of thought there was a ceasefire. I don't
know why, Naively thought that. Now on the Guardian they
are reporting all of Ukraine under air AD alerts. Is
Russia attacks continue, Macron says cease fires could come in weeks.
You got like a kron for putting old Trumpo in

(01:26:16):
his place with a gentle elbow touch the anti Bailey
twenty five to eleven. Greetings and welcome. My name is Marcus.
I hope it's good with you. I hddle twelvel so
Robert reflect did she's singing yous in? And I don't
know if it seems though she was someone that toured
that we all know her or know whose songs and

(01:26:40):
get in touch. You've got anything to add Marcus till
twelve your Russell historic Russell welcome.

Speaker 4 (01:26:48):
Hey, you know the Chinese people have got these ships
in this pasman see the Chinese ship.

Speaker 2 (01:26:57):
The Chinese the Chinese navy.

Speaker 4 (01:27:00):
Yes, yes, how many more ships have they got? And
all the one and all the three?

Speaker 2 (01:27:09):
Or it's a really good question.

Speaker 4 (01:27:14):
Well, I just thought i'd put it to you.

Speaker 2 (01:27:16):
Tell me about the you with the internet. Have you
got the internet?

Speaker 4 (01:27:21):
Oh? No, I just listened to the news and I
lie in bed listen to you every night.

Speaker 2 (01:27:30):
M I think in the War Games Russia China. China
wins three seventy surface.

Speaker 4 (01:27:36):
Ships cribecess A lot, isn't it.

Speaker 2 (01:27:42):
Some say six hundred and sixty one?

Speaker 4 (01:27:45):
Yeah? Well what America would have a lot more than that?
Would No?

Speaker 2 (01:27:49):
I don't think they Wouldn't think they would.

Speaker 4 (01:27:52):
You don't think they would.

Speaker 2 (01:27:53):
I think China's got a bigger navy.

Speaker 4 (01:27:56):
Yeah, so they could come down here and take the
South Pacific quite easy, couldn't they, though I don't not
necessarily know that they They don't want that.

Speaker 2 (01:28:10):
Don't normally attack countries that far away.

Speaker 4 (01:28:15):
Yeah, but we're what's your name, vegetable country factory?

Speaker 2 (01:28:20):
I suppose a vegetable country.

Speaker 4 (01:28:23):
Well, we're supplying milk and vegician.

Speaker 2 (01:28:27):
Okay, he's your Navy's Russell. Right, you're ready going to
write this down? Number one China, number two Russia. Now
this is a tricky one for you. Who comes in
at number three?

Speaker 17 (01:28:42):
Oh?

Speaker 4 (01:28:43):
Would I would have thought America?

Speaker 2 (01:28:46):
No, they're fourth? Who comes in at number three? Dan,
you can get along for this. You'll enjoy this as
a question.

Speaker 4 (01:28:52):
Oh cripes, No, I just can't get it in between pattern?
Who do you? Who are you telling me? Please?

Speaker 2 (01:29:05):
North Korea, isn't it three? They could come to be
more worried about them either loose unit.

Speaker 4 (01:29:14):
Well we've had a wall with them, didn't we.

Speaker 2 (01:29:17):
Yeah, we did too. Well, that wasn't with them per se.

Speaker 4 (01:29:20):
Well, well I guess it was well half and half.

Speaker 2 (01:29:23):
Yeah, it was good for our economy with the wool.

Speaker 4 (01:29:27):
Oh well, all those all those countries we've been talking about,
they are all good for us, aren't they.

Speaker 2 (01:29:35):
Yeah, Well I guess they buy our goods.

Speaker 4 (01:29:38):
Yes, exactually yeah, so we've got to be pretty complacent
what we say.

Speaker 2 (01:29:45):
Or considered. Yes, I think they might be the wrong
They might be the wrong use of the word complacent.

Speaker 4 (01:29:52):
Oh sorry, that's right.

Speaker 2 (01:29:53):
I just try to work out what the correct word is. Yeah, considered.

Speaker 4 (01:29:57):
They were just care for what we because the Chinese
we're out here gold mining and all that, and she
put us on the map and a lot of things,
just you know, so we've got to be pretty respectful
to the to the basics.

Speaker 2 (01:30:20):
Oh yeah, and they're interested about the navies though, oh.

Speaker 4 (01:30:24):
Crutch, Yeah, I didn't think that was the case. But
in mind, we're learning, and we're only a small country
down here. We've just got to keep her mouth shutting
and get on with producing good stuff.

Speaker 2 (01:30:37):
Brilliant.

Speaker 4 (01:30:39):
So how does that go for you?

Speaker 2 (01:30:41):
That's a rep Russell brilliant. Lorraine has emailed, yeah, Marcus
telling her not to worry. Student loans have to be
repaid while on your OE. My granddaughter's been like two
years and she's having to pay minimum payments. I think

(01:31:03):
these days it's not the OE people are going on,
it's the over. They're just going forever because they like
it overseas, more better cities. Yeah, how it all goes?
And Winston's in China, Luson's in Vietnam, and David Seymour

(01:31:28):
is the acting Prime Minister. I don't know if that's
got a a bad thing. This depends on how much
he's got to do in that time. I did end
up watching I did end up watching the audio of
Luxeon on the Hosking Breakfast this morning. I don't understand

(01:31:52):
why Luxon does the words cellar the whole time. It's
a pretty extraordinary conversation, particularly if you're on radio in
the morning. When you do that, when you're doing people
in the morning on radio, you just want to come
in there concise of mind, with just sharp answers that's
what people want because radio is quite different in the morning.
You just want to say that because people is waking

(01:32:13):
up and they want to hear a breakfast show with
someone says I did this, I should said. They just
want clear, concise answers. They haven't got time for mental
gymnastics at that time of the morning. It's quite important
slot those kind of weekly prime ministerial slots just to
kind of say what's happened and what's going It's the
chance you get to actually show you're in control. But

(01:32:38):
there was anything but tonight. It was this morning. It
was just long winded and circultary for the sake of it,
like he's trying to avoid something because there was going
to be legal ramifications if he said some words the
wrong way. But in the un not even sure if
that's what the case was. Anyway, go listen if you
want to see this everywhere, it's been widely shared, not viral,

(01:33:02):
but widely shared because people are in disbelief about it.
That's one could just I mean, Hosking's trying to tell
him what to say, trying to get his old as
his ratings back up and say you wanted this. What
people want, they want you to be concise. Why don't
you just say this? But he goes on and on
and says long winded stuff. Anyway, Oh well, JT, it's Marcus.

(01:33:30):
Good evening and welcome.

Speaker 4 (01:33:32):
Good Marcus.

Speaker 5 (01:33:34):
I'm surprised that you heard the Prime Minister on with Hosking.
I thought you had a policy. I'm not listening to
news talk.

Speaker 2 (01:33:42):
Well, I don't normally because it's on a M down
South and I only listen to the radio on FM
right and I don't get up till nine in the morning,
so I'm not listening to the radio in the morning.
But I went to listen to it because somewhere i'd
send comment on it. But I think, actually, I think

(01:34:04):
I'll explained it. Didn't I say, I'd looked at sort
out the interview.

Speaker 5 (01:34:08):
It's a good station. I recommend it.

Speaker 2 (01:34:11):
Yeah, no, well, yeah, there you go. Should be on
ay for them.

Speaker 5 (01:34:16):
However, what I would say to you is that's Luxeon's
favorite line.

Speaker 2 (01:34:24):
And I don't know why he does that as he's
trying to think of stuff. If it's a if it's
a deliberate attempt to try and think of something to say.

Speaker 5 (01:34:36):
But a couple of weeks ago, he said, what I
would say to you is that's not what I would say.
And I thought that was an old time classic. That'll
go down and that'll go down in the history books.
But yeah, those size that sizes of navy fleets that
you gave, that was must have been all ships and boats,

(01:34:57):
not just warships.

Speaker 2 (01:34:59):
Who's number three? How does the order go?

Speaker 5 (01:35:03):
Well, I think China's got about two hundred and thirty
warship so in America's got about two hundred and ten.
But you've got to remember the Americans have got ten
aircraft carriers, fully worked.

Speaker 2 (01:35:16):
Up aircraft carries any use these days.

Speaker 5 (01:35:22):
Yeah, they're everything, are everything because because ear power is
everything the world. No, no, no, A lot of those
boats at North Korea has got sort of landing crafts
so they can so each one can take, you know,
a platoon of soldiers to the South Korea.

Speaker 2 (01:35:44):
And why is lux A not a better communicator?

Speaker 5 (01:35:50):
I don't know. He seems to be ah, he's in
that corporate speak, but Heather reckons that he's desperate to
be liked and he's I don't know the thing, he's
desperate to be liked by Mike.

Speaker 2 (01:36:06):
No, I mean it's not there. It's anyone that he's
talking to. And unfortunately, I mean, you know, I mean
some of you will disagree with this, but he's come
on the back of John Key and Jessinda are doing.
We're both incredibly effective communicators. They would talk and you'd
listen because you'd be interested what they had to say.

(01:36:28):
And the way they spoke, they spoke directly is so
that you know they were communicating what do they wanted
to communicate? There was no padding around it. It was
very straightforward. He'd ask a question, that'd answer it with

(01:36:51):
very little obfiscation or prevarication or anything like that. But
you know, unfortunately luxe And is stuck with the whole
word salad thing that seems to be what it is,
and people have stopped listening because you don't hear anything
that's of any interest. You don't hear the answers. We
still don't know whether we were to sect Bailey or anyway.

(01:37:15):
It's not my challenge to educate them. I think he's
lost the room. But anyway, got another year and a
half to turn it around. Is it that long. I
don't know the situation with Drake, but you might want
to mention that as well. Yeah, I mean often happens

(01:37:40):
with You can imagine musicians going on tours in the Yeah, look, no,
I can't imagine want to be like but maybe people
had kind of decided that onto him, it's not going
as well as you'd managed then they or thought then
it becomes hard for people to manage those artists who'd
want to be a promoter dealing with talent like that. Anyway,
that's just something I'm mentioning. Now, get and touch it

(01:38:03):
to Marcus. That's me till twelve o'clock tonight. Would you
bother with Sky if they didn't get the rights to
the All Blacks? That seems to be what there's some
controversy about at the moment another players come involved and
might be taking the rights for the All Blacks. But
I'm pretty sure the All Blacks are just saying that
to up their price. But it seems as though every

(01:38:26):
night we mentioned Sky, So why not mention it tonight?
Is Sky without the All Blacks worth anything? I'm sure
people these days get it for the All Blacks in
the NURL. There'd be my take on that one, So
that might be something want to mention. I meant to
mention that earlier, but dar's a hattle bit of a
go around with that also, So yes, it's ten past eleven.

(01:38:47):
Here for the final answer. The oe's Luckson's leadership in
the interview this morning and why just does not speak
straightforwardly because when challenged on he seemed incapable of it.

(01:39:07):
That was the staggering thing. He was putting the words
into his mouth and he still couldn't say it. Um Marcus,
I wish you'd stop bagging the Prime minister. This country
has become petty, seemingly driven by media, and you're in
a position to encourage a positive change to this. Let's

(01:39:30):
back the Prime Minister to help the country change for
the better. Trevor, goodness me, that's an extraordinary text. Go Trevor.

Speaker 4 (01:39:47):
Gee.

Speaker 2 (01:39:50):
Um anyway, eight hundred eighty ten eighty nine nine to
the text get in touch here til twelve o'clock and
the oys. But let's been hearing from you. The popes

(01:40:11):
had a better night's sleep, that's the latest report. And
I think he was on the phone to someone when
he woke up. Also, we're still in hospital that since
the fourteenth of such eleven days now he's in hospital
his longest stay during his papacy. If that's the right

(01:40:33):
word for your we'd saying papercy, but it tear from
me for this final hour. My name is Marcus. Welcome oh,
eight hundred and eighty ten eighty, and I've actually been
remarkably restrained about the promise of just trying to say
why he was unable to articulate things better on the

(01:40:53):
interview this morning, because people are perplexed why I can't
just speak in a more straightforward, non circuitous way. It's
not about policy, that's just about answering a simple question.
I don't think anyone's excited about his performance this morning,

(01:41:15):
that'd be my take on it. It's another year and
a half before selection. I mean nothing really, nothing's going
to change. He's not going to throw in the towel.
I don't think Marcus Trevor needs his head read or
or he is a landlord. Could well be a landlord.
That's probably what it is. Marcus listening to Luxeon is

(01:41:38):
so damn frustrating. He just needs to man up and
lead the country.

Speaker 5 (01:41:44):
Well.

Speaker 2 (01:41:44):
I wonder about his media advised I wonder if he's
listening to himself back and thinking okay, I could say
that clearer because I must be doing focus groups, and
focus groups must be realizing he's not communicating in a
way that people enjoy or is effective. Particularly in radio
in the morning, people are busy doing a lot of things.
Quick short answers. That's right, Mike. I would have sacked him.

(01:42:06):
Good point, Mike, Thank you for that. That's it, Mike,
onwards and upwards. After Vietnam, Winston's in charge. This is it, Bailey,
no good, would have gone, could have sacked him, didn't
he left? What's next, Mike? How things bang straightforward? That's
what people want. He's come on the back of two
very good communicators. Luxon was probably starstruck being the presence

(01:42:31):
of the leader of the National Party.

Speaker 5 (01:42:32):
There we go.

Speaker 2 (01:42:34):
And just something special we might be going out to
at the end of the show with me singing the
power of Love. How would you like that? People? Just
go'd be a good fun thing for me to do.
So play your cards right, I might do that, Emma Marcus,
welcome you, God, good, good, good good.

Speaker 21 (01:42:52):
So my story is a an ooe story. Friend and
I were traveling on an overnight train from Cossis, which
is Slovakia, up to crack our Poland, and obviously there's
a border in between, and we had to show our

(01:43:12):
passports and between the two countries, and so that was okay.
But when I went to go back to sleep, I
put my passport into my jeane pocket. And then when
we disembarked from the train and Poland, what I didn't
realize is that the passport had fallen out and left
it in the bed. And we got all the way

(01:43:35):
to the backpackers, and of course the receptionist I said, oh,
you know, show you passports, and we had to go
a look for my passport, couldn't find the passport, and
I was like, oh my god. We walked an hour
to this to get to this backpackers, and was like,
oh god, we're going to have to go all the
way back to the train station. And of course the

(01:43:58):
people there didn't there. We didn't speak any polars. We're
trying to talk to these second ladies and nobody could
make any sense of what we were saying until we
found one lady that that spoke a little bit of English.
Because the train had gone already by the time we
got back, so I think, oh my god, we're going

(01:44:20):
to do about this passport, and finally we worked out
that the police had been handed into the police. So wow, okay, great,
thank god, you know we're going to you know, find
the police.

Speaker 2 (01:44:34):
And so.

Speaker 21 (01:44:36):
We had to go down into the platform of the
train and we went to this tiny, little it wasn't
a police station. I don't know what it was, but anyway,
I started to panic a little bit and I got
ushered into this room and my friend had waited outside.

Speaker 2 (01:44:57):
Did we go, hang on, Emma, what year we talking?

Speaker 21 (01:45:00):
This would have been two thousand and four or five.

Speaker 2 (01:45:05):
I'm terrified. Now, okay, say friend, getting stayt inside the room?

Speaker 5 (01:45:09):
Ye yes, yeah.

Speaker 21 (01:45:11):
I was rushly that and here was nobody in the
room and the only thing that was in this room
was a table and was nothing on it. A telephone and.

Speaker 3 (01:45:21):
Like a lamp.

Speaker 2 (01:45:25):
Police interrogation.

Speaker 21 (01:45:28):
Yeah, and it's I was panicking and I was thinking,
oh my god, they're gonna they're going to extort me
some money to get back to us from like passport.

Speaker 6 (01:45:38):
What am I going to do?

Speaker 21 (01:45:40):
And anyway, next minute the door opens and this man
walks and was like with like no police uniform, with
a cheese cutter hat on, and he sat down and
he had a briefcase.

Speaker 2 (01:45:51):
Of course he did.

Speaker 21 (01:45:52):
Come then this is I'm not making this up, honestly,
it's just and he said, yeah, opened up this briefcase
and the only thing in that.

Speaker 5 (01:46:03):
Was my passport.

Speaker 21 (01:46:04):
Packed up the passport, hands it to me and I
just sat there and I was just kind of like
waiting for the punchline, thinking, you know, this is going
to cost you like a brazilion, I don't know, euros
or whatever. And he didn't say anything. I looked at him,
he looked at me. I thought, all right, I'm just
going to stand up and I'm just going to like

(01:46:25):
walk out the door. And I did, and he didn't
say anything. And then my friend was standing outside and
I just said to him, I was like, shit, just
excuse me, sorry, just go, you know, just make a
run for it. And we just and we just well
we didn't run. We just walked very quickly and just
we didn't say anything until we got out of the
train station and back to the thing, and then just

(01:46:47):
breathed this huge high of relief because we just couldn't
believe what had happened, because it.

Speaker 19 (01:46:53):
Was just it was.

Speaker 2 (01:46:55):
How did you go nose?

Speaker 21 (01:46:56):
You go to the police station, the tackting ladies did.
She goes off and broken polish, you know, gibberish language
between the two of us. She somehow managed to sort
of send us to sort of what was sort of
like the police, I guess, but there was nothing, you know,

(01:47:17):
there wasn't like a sign saying, you know, police or
anything particular. It was just this random kind of room
and a random man and no uniform, and it was
just I've never forgotten it, and it's just, you know,
I kind of giggle about it now because it's funny,
because it was so comical that you just wouldn't even

(01:47:39):
read about it. But at the time, I've been never
been so pictrified.

Speaker 2 (01:47:42):
In my life. What was Slovakia like?

Speaker 21 (01:47:49):
Oh, it was the middle of winter, Okay, yeah it was.
We didn't experience regret to Slovakia. It was kind of
just the overnight stop because we were trying to I'd
gone from Budapiece to Slovakia, to cross the Slovakia because
I was trying to get it okay and to get up.

Speaker 5 (01:48:08):
To eff it.

Speaker 2 (01:48:11):
Okay. Appreciate that. Catherine Marcus, welcome, Hello, great things.

Speaker 20 (01:48:19):
Hi, how are you doing good?

Speaker 2 (01:48:20):
Thank you.

Speaker 20 (01:48:23):
So I was just sporning about Sky Television to tell
you the one thing that was good about it, apart
from obviously Rugby.

Speaker 3 (01:48:36):
Stop.

Speaker 20 (01:48:37):
So yeah, if you had my Sky, you could record
movies or television programs and then watch it back and
you could for rewind all the adverts.

Speaker 2 (01:48:50):
Oh I see, you wouldn't be with the money that
was for paying it if there wasn't.

Speaker 20 (01:48:54):
Okay, But there's no other platform like that sis that
you can just record something you don't have to watch adverts. Yeah,
so that was one thing that guy had, right.

Speaker 2 (01:49:05):
Yeah, not fair enough. I wait, Yeah, thank you, Catherine
and Marcus welcome.

Speaker 15 (01:49:12):
You want me me?

Speaker 17 (01:49:16):
Yeah, yeah, you were talking about the Chinese vessel and
the Blood. Yes, now that is a vessel that is
doing a survey of some trench around about off Stewart Island.
Oh okay, it's knew and there's charted this Chinese vessel.

Speaker 2 (01:49:42):
That makes perfect it makes perfect sense.

Speaker 17 (01:49:45):
Yeah, it's got remote controlled subsign it's got manned subs
that can go down and apparently they're going to some
trench off the coast down there that's up to ten
thousand meters deep.

Speaker 2 (01:50:00):
So that would be so we're still involved in co production,
not co productions, but shared research with them.

Speaker 17 (01:50:09):
Yeah yeah, okay, which sounds well Chinese registered. This was
Chinese registered.

Speaker 2 (01:50:17):
Okay, Well that makes sense, doesn't it.

Speaker 17 (01:50:20):
Yeah. Yeah, but she's got all the gear on it.
She can drop her submarine down like they did on
the Titanic. Hope it comes up. But they've also got
the remote submarine so they can just drop them down
and just guide around.

Speaker 2 (01:50:39):
It'll be the Pusa trench, That's what I think they're doing.

Speaker 17 (01:50:42):
Yeah, pusing a trench here?

Speaker 2 (01:50:44):
Would you be to do with plate tectonics and all
sorts of things and also maybe quakes and stuff like
that in here? How did you know about that? Did
you do research on everything?

Speaker 17 (01:50:54):
There was a photo in the paper and the ODT yesterday,
I think all the day before. Okay, this could have
been Saturday, but they had a photo of her, and
she's a mighty big vessel.

Speaker 4 (01:51:08):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:51:09):
I didn't see it in Bluff Harbor. I must have
been away on the weekend when it was in but
a lot of people were talking about it.

Speaker 17 (01:51:14):
I can't remember the link, but I know she's eighteen
meters wide.

Speaker 2 (01:51:22):
I've got the length of it here. Someone sent the
Deeps through to me. Now I've just lost it. He
was surprisingly long.

Speaker 17 (01:51:37):
Yeah, yeah, I say she's a big lumber vessel.

Speaker 2 (01:51:44):
Now I can't find where I had it the ten
sway yaw Yeah, Discovery one explore how many meters is
someone sent through? How many meters it was? I'm just annoyed.
I can't find it currently. Let me just have a
look for that while I'm here, because I'll be in

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anoyed otherwise someone sent it through earlier on today. I
can't quite forget now speed, I can't ah tannage five

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thousand meters. No, it hasn't got the length on it. Sorry,
I haven't got there. I thought I had that, but
I haven't.

Speaker 17 (01:52:39):
Yeah, I just there was not one in the in
the article in the odt okay, he's eighteen meters wide,
which is a resource size for a research vessel.

Speaker 2 (01:52:52):
Appreciate that. In thanks for coming through, Marcus till twelve midnight.
What do you got people? Eight undre and eighty did
in ninety nine the dixt Get in touch if you
want to comment. She's all on, Marcus. I don't for
a second. Support's abysmal shenigans this morning. He goes on
about the importance of clarity, but obviously doesn't know the
meaning of the word. I am an anti lux and

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landlord all. There's more of us than you think, Lois Marcus.
Everyone's blaming China when we're really we all need to
ask how did the AUSSI military not know they were
there until a plight private line let them know asleep
a that will in. I don't think the airline let
them know. I think the airline let them know that
know that there was live firing. I just think they've

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made a bit more of a song and dance about it,
try and increase our military spending after the government's reduced
our military spending. I think that's what's going on there.
But with Trump in charge of the USA, I don't
think we should be getting involved with too much military spending.
God knows what we'll get involved with. He said invade Gaza, Mexico, Canada,
green Lane, Greenland, not green Lane, and now seems to

(01:54:03):
be sympathetic to putin. So yeah, I reckon. You probably
want to keep your pennies to yourself for a while
until things calm down. Marcus Luxon won't have any choice.
He will be gone later in the year. Will step
aside rather than face a leadership coup. I don't think
that will happen. I don't think the obvious contenders us

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strong enough at the stage, and they do think he
kind of united the party. But I guess they'll be
watching the polls and if some people look like they'll
be losing their seats, because it's very very rare in
his end for ever one term government. Mind you, there
is dissatisfaction right around the world and most a lot

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of governments are getting turfed out after one term. So
that just seems to be the podical climate.

Speaker 1 (01:54:53):
Now.

Speaker 2 (01:54:54):
Inflation that's not going away. Certainly Trump hasn't fixed inflation.
Boy talk about buyers remorse there how much a s
doesnt eggs? Joe Marcus, Welcome.

Speaker 10 (01:55:07):
Hello.

Speaker 22 (01:55:09):
I just wanted to tell you a little story about
when I was traveling in Nepal. I was young, and
I went off because I a lot of my friends
were just getting married and having babies and that didn't
interest me, so off I went to a different country.
I went to India. I went to Calcutta. I went
to mother Teresa's home to see what she did. It

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was a bit horrible, really, in lots of ways.

Speaker 2 (01:55:37):
Because it was an authentic or because it was grim.

Speaker 22 (01:55:41):
Well, there were little children there as well as old people.
I thought the old people who were dying were being
looked after well, but there were quite a lot of
about thirty little children who were orphans. Oh, and they
wanted us to save them, but of course we couldn't.

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It was really, yes, it was. But anyway, on a
brighter note, in the poor I went up to base camp.
And during on the way there we stopped at a
village and slept on the floor of the homes. And
it was a stone flag floor. And at night I

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had my sleeping bag on the floor, but I'd heard
sort of little scratchy noises in the night. I couldn't
work it out because it seemed to be a stone
flake floor. In the morning, the lady of the house,
I rolled up my sleeping bag, and the lady of
the house picked up one of the stone flags and
all the chickens popped up. So I'd been sleeping on

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top of the chickens. Wow, it's just quite funny.

Speaker 2 (01:56:52):
Well, yeah, well it makes sense, I suppose, I guess
you're well, okay, so what were they like? Were they
like in a dark cellar.

Speaker 22 (01:57:03):
They were just in a little hole in the floor
under the floor which was and under that floor the
cattle were underneath that.

Speaker 2 (01:57:13):
So is it because it's not much land because it's
so steep.

Speaker 22 (01:57:17):
Well, I think it's cold for the chickens too, so
that's what I imagine. But another I had quite a
lot of adventures. There was a time when we were
about to have dinner and the little child just had slits.
They didn't wear nappies, they just had slits in their pants,

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and it just squatted down beside me and did a
pool on the floor, and I was a bit surprised,
and then the dog came and lapped us up, so
it didn't stay there for long. Extraordinary things like that
that happened. But another thing I did try and help
a man who had been in one of the international

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exhibitions space camp and he got frost bits and fingers
and been in quite a bad way, and he was
too frightened to go to the New Zealand doctor that
lived in a village up quite near his village. Yes,
but anyway, we tried to persuade them and we went

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up to base, came back again, and then I went
to the hospital, and as I was leaving this chap
walked in and went to the doctor. I think he
had to have three fingers amputated, but that stopped the.

Speaker 3 (01:58:35):
Poison.

Speaker 22 (01:58:36):
His arm was somehow in a really bad way. I
thought he was going to lose half his arm, but
he lost three fingers, which wasn't as bad. I heard
later from somebody. So I had such an adventure, a
wonderful time.

Speaker 2 (01:58:51):
How long, police people, How long were you away alone?

Speaker 22 (01:58:55):
I ended up picking grapes in France, going to Italy
to try and learn Italian, which was a disaster. I
couldn't learn Italian but dyslexic, so that didn't work. But
I ended up actually marrying an Englishman and then bought
them back here. So I had a big trip and
stayed away probably ten years altogether.

Speaker 2 (01:59:16):
It's a long time. Ten years a long time, isn't it.

Speaker 22 (01:59:21):
Well, it went quickly, so when you look back on it,
it just seems like a flash.

Speaker 17 (01:59:27):
Really, what year was it?

Speaker 2 (01:59:29):
What year was it you left to go to Nepal
and India in those.

Speaker 22 (01:59:32):
Places, it was in the sixties.

Speaker 2 (01:59:34):
It was in the sixties, so I'm ancient. She was
around in the I was trying to work out when
she was at her peak.

Speaker 22 (01:59:45):
It was during the Bangladesh War as well. And I
traveled third class train and people they didn't Indians and
Pakistani people didn't have sleeping bags. They brought the whole
mattress and their chickens and their goats and everything on
the train. It was And I traveled third class because
I thought it was safe. Because she went first class.

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She had a naughty rich men thinking you were just
woman on a loose and second class I didn't think
would be much better. But third class the people were poor,
but they were least respectful and lovely. So it was
a real adventure and I'll never ever forget it, and

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a wonderful thing to do when you were young.

Speaker 2 (02:00:33):
Lovely to talk Joe, thank you so much. Twenty to
twelve Marcus, I just cannot listen to luxury. Appears to
have verbal diaryspects and cliches and sounds as if he
has wrote learning and no electoral thinking chairs, Mary, I mean,
to be able to communicate effectively is not the most well,
it's not the sole role of the job, but certainly

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if you can master that aspect of the job, it
makes your job a lot easier because to be able
to impart ideas and answers to the media in weekly
scheduled appointments, it is a very important part of your job.

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That's when you can explain what's going on and get
the country to come along with you. And that's the disconnect.
He's lost the room because he doesn't speak effectively, and
his predecessor spoke very effectively from different sides of the sphere,

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but great communicators, so he's up against it. But what
I can't work out is he hasn't become a better communicator,
cause you think those things you could be taught. But
clearly he either doesn't think it's a problem or it's
hard for him to learn what to do differently.

Speaker 1 (02:02:04):
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