A bit keen to deliver (11 November 2024)

Marcus has queries around the popularity of TradeMe, and what has gone wrong when you've bought and sold goods on community selling sites.

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Speaker 1 (00:07):
You're listening to the Marcus Lush Nights podcast from News Talks.

Speaker 2 (00:11):
I'd be he know seven greetings, welcome. My name is
Marcus head or twelve. I hope it's good. We you
are if it's not, gonna hope against better? How many
days left in the year? Quick? Guess pick a number.
It's fifty. It's not many at all. Five zero, So
countdown and the cow I'm gonna get the Tyson fight.

(00:32):
I've set the kids down, show the out Tyson, the pigeons.
How was pigeons? Keeping pigeons? That kept them going? Anyway?
Got no idea? Who are think? Any idea who the
other guy is? Either it's how young they are. But anyway,
I think that's this weekend. It's gonna be harped. It's
going to be terrible. I'll watch it. Can you bet

(00:54):
on that? I'm not interested in be I just want
to know who people think is gonna win. There's one
guy that's my age, that's Tyson. Is the documentary interesting
to watch? Not really? It's just to get your hyped
up to the fight. Did it work? Did it get
me hyped up with the fight? Yes, I'll watch it.
The one inch punch. I'll tell you who was very nice,

(01:16):
and I'll tell you that was remarkably I don't know
if you if you've watched the Mike Tyson Show, it's
a precursor for his match, his boxing fight that's coming up.
He's fighting Logan Paul. I presume that's his name. He's
a social media YouTuber, right, Jake Paul. There we go.
Logan's his brother, So there we go. So it's so
that's what he's doing. And who'd you say it is?

Speaker 3 (01:40):
Dan?

Speaker 4 (01:43):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (01:43):
You put me? Yeah, that's right. So it's seasy get
the two of them confused. But anyway, that's a situation.
So that's the big fight. But I'll tell you what.
It's quite reassuring about it because if people in my age,
my generation will have followed the trial and tribulations of
Mike Tyson's life. He appears to have wonderful children. He's

(02:09):
got a son who looks quite sort of thin and neudy,
which is quite fun. And he's got a daughter who
seems to be a very good tennis player. They said
to be great children and kind of enjoy their dad's idiosyncrasies.
Who seems to be sort of slightly askew to what's
going on with the earth. But anyway, I thought that
was nice that that's worked out for him. I don't

(02:33):
know if he's got more than the two kids, but
the two kids that feature on the two episodes I
saw seemed to love it. Anyway. Blah blah blah blah.
So it's Tyson the favorite, Jay Jake Paul's the favorite.

Speaker 3 (02:50):
Wow.

Speaker 2 (02:50):
Between that and your money on booitcoin, you can double
your money in the next fifty days by Christmas anyway,
So blah blah blah. So all of that, and I
thought that rugby was a fantastic time at nine o'clock
on the Sadder. And I don't know. I mean, I
know that people get upset when I took sport. This
is not the sports show tough. For the first time

(03:15):
in a long long time, I'm really enjoying Test rugby.
I always said I was gonna cry this. You hear
that my voice been funny. I'm not trying to cry.
I couldn't care less. But it was a great match,
exciting right toe And I like Scott Robertson. I like
the team. The team doesn't seem to have that arrogance

(03:38):
or that born too when attitude about that. They seem
to be battlers and they see to be good. That
hooker was good. Loved it, loved all of it. So
it's taken me a long time to get back on
track with the all backs. Don't know what put me
off them, but just the one all the time. And
they were sort of but they were great. They were
really really good. Even enjoy the captain and the way
he doesn't say much. Liked all of it. So there

(03:59):
we go. I'm looking forward to France, looking forward towards
and I love the fact that we've got about six
teams that seemed to be able to beat each other
on any given day. And yeah, I loved it, absolutely
loved all everything about it. I even enjoyed the halftime cheddar.
I even stayed around after the end, which I never do.
They went back to Scott Robertson and then the men

(04:19):
and the woman asking him. It was great men and
the woman was great. So there we go. So well
done for. I thought it was a bit too over
the top with the commentator three fifty games and getting
his grandkids in and stuff like that on the video.
That's all right, because the sad thing was I realized
they're all here. When did the commentator stop traveling? Would

(04:40):
it be any could been a commentator if you couldn't
go to the matches. Surely Sky can send them around
the world because they kept talking after matches having a
beer in the hotel lobby. Well they can't even beer
in the hotel lobby now, ken they're not traveling, Just
have a bear at Sky headquarters at Elleslie anyway. But yeah,

(05:01):
I'm loving rugby and found loving all sports at the moment,
I've enjoy love seeing the Tonguans at the stadium at
Paramata where they went against the Ossie. That was fantastic. Also,
what a great first half that was the passion. Yep,
that's the market. That's the future, tongue in flags. I

(05:24):
don't know how manych family you have got, but it's
clear market there for those. Anyway, get in touch you
on to talk. My name is Marcus Hddle twelve. Tell
you something. Here's a question for me from media. I'm
not entirely sure how to frame this question. I thought
about going on about this for a long long time
and I haven't said anything. But today I'm going to

(05:46):
speak what's going on with trade me. There seems to
be no listings. Now I have my own trade me
searches I go to. I've got three very different searches,

(06:09):
and when I come to work, I search those three
things because it's easy to do on the computer to
my phone at home, and there's three things I purchase
and collect. And normally I've got about twenty watch lists,
and most weeks I'm buying three or four things a week.

(06:31):
And I don't do phone banking, so I'm gonna get
my partner. I've got to text her and say, could
you pay for this please? She groans and pays for it.
But that's how travy works for me. There's only about
twenty on the watch list, and often auctions will close
when I'm at work, and most things I get when
I get them at home, I'm very pleased with what
I've got, and they have good quality, and it's been
a good transaction and I give good feedback. However, in

(06:57):
the last six months or maybe all this year, there's
been nothing to buy. One of those things I've bid
for have been listed. So why would everyone I'm not
going to say what it is, but why would everyone?
And these are secondhand goods, but why would everyone so

(07:18):
either I've bought all of them or people have stopped listing.
And every day I come to work and think, what's
going on with trade Me? Where are those things I buy?
And I've even been quite conspiratorial. I thought accidentally I
changed my settings to be Southland only. I can't work
out what it is. None of the things I want

(07:38):
to buy are there. I've gone to marketplace because they
try my I don't like Marketplace. I don't understand it.
But what's happened? Have people stopped selling secondhand goods? Have
people given up on trade Me? Have they all gone
to marketplace? Comments? Please if you know what's happening to
trade me, because I've always loved trade Me. I don't

(08:00):
know how many stars I've got. I could tell you
about my profile and how many things I've got, how
many of the happy stars? Two hundred and one things
I've got ninety six point seven positive feedback, seven negative feedbacks.
That's because Vanessa's been a slow player, because I've been
too scared to tell her what I've bought. By the way,

(08:22):
what sort of person will give negative feedback? What sort
of Karen would give a negative feedback when you're selling
something for twenty bucks, I mean, for goodness sake, anyway,
wish I hadn't got those negative ones. There's not much
I can do about it now. And I thought I
would have had less negative than that, because I've done
some quite well. I've got Vanessa to do some quite
big explaining to get myself out of situations. But anyway,

(08:45):
so that's me in trade me. But it seems as
though it's gone completely quite. No one's listing anything and
out of desperation. I'm asking you if that has been
your experience, let me know, please, I wait one hundred
and eighty eight ten eighty because none of the stuff
I buy is there. I know that you will all
be traders marketplace and trade me. Are you going less
and less to trade me? And it's not that people

(09:09):
have got no money, because if people have got no money,
they'd be selling more stuff, wouldn't they. I thought in
a recession there'd be more stuff on trade me. But
could someone tell me if that's the situation, Get in
touch if you want to comment on that, because that's
my discussion for tonight. I'll read the texts. I'll read

(09:34):
the texts Marcus, people got no money. That's why I'm
with you, Marcus. Enjoying rugby again, Marcus Mike Tyson at
three to ten at the tab ten dollars to return
thirty one bucks of money well spent, Marcus, to make
the rugby better between the all blacks of the Wallabies.
Put the BLIZZERSO Cup on the line every time. No brainer.
That's not a text for me, that's a text for

(09:55):
the previous host. But I'll read it. So why aren't
people using trade me? Let me know? Is it to
do with the fees? I got no idea, guys, but
it's one of my great joys is shopping therapy. When
I get to work, I think cheap as I've got
four hours of unpredictable talk bad. At least they've got
a couple of options to bid on. Throughout the course

(10:16):
of the night, I'll be on a bidding high. But
there's nothing but dance cards empty. I've even going off
to Australian auction sites because I'm a buyer and not
a seller. I don't know anything about the fees or
anything like that, so maybe someone could explain that to
me also, But yeah, no one's done it. No one's selling.

(10:37):
Nothing's happening. I reckon there's half the listings. No, there's
less than half, because if I look now at my
watch list, nothing there, nothing there was in the past.
I'll be bidding, trading, negotiating, nothing going on. What's that about?

(11:07):
By the way, the Sultan of Bruney is visiting. He
arrived by playing today five point thirty one five eighteen
three eleven is when it touched down. It's opulent plane.
One of the world's last remaining absolute monarchs. There you go.

(11:32):
I think he's med old Lusou as well. But I
don't know why he's here. I think didn't he buy
that big property in Hunebe. They always went on and
on and on about the Sultan of Bruneyes, properly. Then
someone was staying their rods, stir whatever. I was sort
of bouncing. I'd been there for some function. What was
it was? I working there? I can't remember. Trade me,
Trade me, trade me, trade me? What's going on with?

(11:52):
Trade me? Let me know? Oh, eight hundred and eighty
ten eighty and nine nine to detext anything else? You
want to check into the max to feel free. I'm
up for it. But mainly trade me marketplace. I don't
get they say, asked it. Well, surely if it's not available,
you'd cancel the listing, wouldn't you. I've never bought anything
on marketplace. I don't get it. And Zuckerberg. Zuckerberg freaks

(12:16):
me out because it's a Facebook thing, isn't it.

Speaker 4 (12:19):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (12:19):
I don't like giving him too much information. Not paranoid,
but I just don't like the cut of his jib.
Maybe I am paranoid. Christian, it's Marcus welcome. Yeah you
ain't hi, Christian, Jemmy, Yeah, I gotcha, God.

Speaker 5 (12:39):
Yeah, yeah, Jeddie.

Speaker 6 (12:42):
Yeah.

Speaker 7 (12:42):
I mean, I've been a buyer and seller for a
while now, but and I always used to go to
trade me because that seems to be the only option.
But now I just I do the marketplace for everything?

Speaker 6 (12:53):
Really, Yeah, yeah, and.

Speaker 7 (12:55):
I think, I mean, I don't know if I suppose
it's a feaz thing, but I suppose it's just for me.
Most people are on Facebook, so people just like you know,
if you don't have a trade me account, he runs.
Everybody's on Facebook, so there's list things and I just
find it such easier.

Speaker 2 (13:10):
How does the does Facebook marketplace have watch lists or
buy nows or things like that, or or or PayPal.
Do they do that stuff that makes it interesting or
easy to do?

Speaker 7 (13:24):
I mean, it's just it's just completely up to the
buyer and seller. Usually like you can just you can
add things to your to your saved list list things
and that sort of thing.

Speaker 3 (13:33):
But I don't.

Speaker 7 (13:33):
Yeah, I just feel like it's just such easier you
can you can negotiate with different people, you can trade
a lot easier. Sometimes the communication with trade me is
is a lot trickier.

Speaker 2 (13:43):
Okay, And people seem to be a bit kind of
pious on trade me, aren't they there? Could you like
give feedback on marketplace?

Speaker 8 (13:49):
Do you?

Speaker 2 (13:51):
No?

Speaker 7 (13:51):
I think I think there is something that you can
do things, but it's not as it's not as big
of a deal.

Speaker 9 (13:56):
I don't think.

Speaker 2 (13:57):
And Christian tell me, because I've never done this. People
go on and on about the fees for trade me.
Could you tell me how much they are?

Speaker 7 (14:05):
Well, it depends what you're listening, I think. I think
vehicles you pay you pay a fee to list, and
then you also pay some sort of percentage of your
like the sale price. Yep, Yeah, but yeah, it very
much depends what you're listening. I mean I used to
be someone that you know. I get an email saying
free selling on the Saturday, and so I'd listen my

(14:26):
things to avoid that. But yeah, well, I suppose with
marketplaces the zero fees and.

Speaker 2 (14:33):
If it's something on trade me, that's like it's costing
one hundred dollars. How much fee would it cost to
sell something for a hundred bucks on trade me?

Speaker 7 (14:41):
Yeah, I actually don't know that.

Speaker 10 (14:43):
I know the denounced.

Speaker 2 (14:45):
Yeah, because people go on and on about the fees.
I don't know what they are. Christian, thanks for that.
Come through if you want to talk more about this.
Twenty five past eight, I'll get to the texts, Marcus.
I think people are going to marketplace. It's free to
list and trade be taking money when you sell something.
But how much, Marcus, people are using marketplace on Facebook.

(15:05):
It's so much easier know, or can be really quick.
It can be really weird too, though good weird and
just plain weird. You get ghosted, left high and dry too,
which can be annoying or charming. Overall, it's the ease.
I reckon. I sell all unwanted items through there. Now,
have a good night, Irene Wellington, Marcus. I like trade me, However,
it's completely flooded these days with businesses things from within

(15:27):
New Zealand and gazillions from overseas. You cannot select private
sellers only. Trade me is tuning into nothing more than
Ali barbar or tamou. Finally, have you seen how much
trade charge to sell a house? Surely it costs normal
for tradue to as secondhand cars as it does a house.
Yet they charge individuals fifteen hundred for an average house.

(15:50):
Trade me don't change. They'll soon become the Yellow Pages. Marcus.
People are buying their goods from Temu. I reckon must
be herding online traders as people can buy a new
product cheaper. Marcus. I'm a student and everything in my
flat is a marketplace. You get quick responses from sellers,

(16:11):
and listings are free. Maybe a fewer posters trade me place.
His marketplace is free. Also, people are generally giving stuff
away instead on Facebook. Is either than the hustle of
trade me. That might be the point. It's all free, Craig.
It's Marcus, welcome.

Speaker 4 (16:31):
Get out.

Speaker 9 (16:32):
How's it gains evening?

Speaker 2 (16:33):
Good? Thank you, Craig.

Speaker 9 (16:35):
I'm not really too Most of the stuff I buys
on trade me. I don't really deal with Marketplace. But
one thing I have found that quite interesting with Marketplace
was I had a motorbike stolen from the back of
it from the front of our section of the garage,
and when the cops finally tracked the guy down, he
happened to be parked on wad of lines with my
stolen motorbike on the back of the ute. So they
pulled him over for that, and then they did a

(16:56):
random check on the number plane and it came up
as stolen, so they picked it up quite quickly. But
he said, oh, I bought it a Marketplace from the
guy at two o'clock in the morning. And I was like,
but we went through the whole courting and all that,
and there's no real accountability to the marketplace. Yes it's Facebook,
but anyone could be. There's no sort of verification which
a lot of the trading accounts, so she verified to
make sure the person's address and who they say they are,

(17:17):
or who are who they are.

Speaker 2 (17:18):
To be honest. That makes it sound more exciting.

Speaker 9 (17:20):
Craig Okay, I think it makes Marketplace a little bit
of sort of wild West. Really, people like.

Speaker 2 (17:27):
People love the World West. That's why they're all watching
shows like dead Wood.

Speaker 9 (17:31):
Oh okay, well then I've got it totally wrong.

Speaker 2 (17:34):
But no, I don't know. I don't know. I'm just
being d a devil's advocate. Yeah, I mean because i'd
like you to try I'd like you to try marketplace.

Speaker 9 (17:41):
Well, I don't have Facebook, so it's going to be
pretty stupid.

Speaker 2 (17:43):
Here have Facebook.

Speaker 9 (17:45):
No, I don't have Facebook.

Speaker 2 (17:46):
Sorry, what's the person doesn't have Facebook? I don't Are
you in the secret? Are you in the secrete secret?
What does the predictionscheme?

Speaker 3 (17:58):
Not nowadays?

Speaker 9 (17:58):
But no, well I probably couldn't take.

Speaker 2 (18:06):
No. But you haven't been on there in mid nex
or something and been scared, or you haven't had a
bad Facebook experience.

Speaker 3 (18:13):
No.

Speaker 9 (18:13):
I was on Facebook for about ten years ago, and
you just got to the point where it's just so
much crap on Facebook. And every time you go on Facebook,
you get riandom people ringing up saying, oh, I mean
posting on there that oh I know such and such
and this is my friend's birthday and all the sort
of crap, And it's like, I don't really need to
know what my friends dinner when they go out. Gets annoying.

Speaker 2 (18:32):
I appreciate your I appreciate your your brutal practicality. That
just cut it out. Yeah, I mean, it's just like
it's the only place I know when anyone's died is Facebook.
It's always it's hard to know if they talk about
their pet or their husband, because you can oh, terrible
day Blue. Well they say terrible blade day Blue's left us.

(18:54):
You know that's the dog. But it's a terrible day,
mister such, Yeah, it was a terrible day, Paulies. You
never quite know.

Speaker 9 (19:03):
Yeah, but I used to get ones from relatives saying, oh,
been up to the road and got a pie. That's
what it looks like. And I'm going, really, I need
to start my day with seeing what you had from
warning too. It's like, well, there's a lot. There's a
lot of rubbish that goes on Facebook, and a lot
that Crepty said you have to weed through. So I
just got sick and tired of and just sort of
canceled and just do emails and stuff. Now we'll ring
people up the old schoolway, which has a lot of

(19:25):
gen z probably don't know how to do. But you
can actually talk to people on the cell phone as well.
Rather than texting. It's quite quite a noble idea.

Speaker 2 (19:31):
What did the pilot?

Speaker 9 (19:34):
I was taking cheese pie and it was like, to me,
it looked like I had more chelaton filling than the
thing than as she steaks, So it wasn't like a
real pie. But whenever I'm an Aorkland, I go to
the Pioneer Pies place in Albanius are quite nice, but.

Speaker 2 (19:50):
Sounds like a classic post to me, Greg, sounds like that.
It sounds like it's right in your bread basket. Lovely
to talk, Craig. I appreciate your your brutal practicality. Trade
me marketplace? What's up with trade me? She seems to
have disappeared for the second hand goods. Trade me kill
off the news, publish thing and trade and exchange. When
the papers put out the trade me threat, they died
up the fees to a gain lost revenue. Now the

(20:11):
Facebook is doing the same to trade me. Good evening,
Ross Marcus, welcome.

Speaker 6 (20:16):
Yeah again good the trade me. I sell a lot
of attitudes on trade me and marketplace, and what I've
found was after COVID, trade me went down quite a lot.
But with from trade me to face marketplace a fine marketplace.

(20:40):
You can decrease your price awebit, which helps and then
people want it away so they can just they can
go to an ah, yeah I know that guy and
while gone down the road to you, daddy R. So
the word of mouth gets round quite a lot, and
that that's where it can help too. Also with trade.
Me you look on training and there's a lot of

(21:02):
car salespeople and companies that sell high amounts of goods.
I get my pop ribits from a place in Auckland
specific trade and I'm like, by you know, three or
four thousand at a time that I get them. Well,
they're the cheapest round by far. And you know, debt

(21:24):
how they do it because they get their fees are
diluted by so much to say sale with certain num
per month. I think it might be ten grand a
month or someone like that in sales, so they get
zero fees for them. So that's why those people were
doing okay. But your normal person like me, I'm paying
ten per cents, I less assumed with two grand, I'm

(21:46):
paying two well I'm not paying to a hundred, but
the customers paying two hundred, which I don't think that's
fear where men before we're saying about okay, you have
a ten thousand dollars car might only cost you three
fifty the lister you know so, and then you've got
the ability of our stab can ring you up and
come over and have a look nor rest. But with

(22:07):
my sheets this scenario, I'm not allowed to leave my
number on it, which I find odd.

Speaker 2 (22:13):
So are you saying with you? With marketplace, you can
leave your number on and then you someone buys a
ship off you, and then you can take it old
school and they can just ring your give their makes
your number.

Speaker 11 (22:22):
Is that what you're saying, Yeah, yeah, basically yeah, I
mean I've got an inquiry. I've got a lady picking
money up on Sunday and she says, I'll give you
the money now, We'll give you a positive say no,
don't don't worry about it. I'm not dodg you, dice
you or anything like that. Just when you tune up,
pay me cash or the bank depositive.

Speaker 6 (22:43):
I don't care. Over well, I've got nothing to hide,
and that's that's the best way. Never either buy something
on marketplace outside your own district. If you to say, Christ,
you want to buy someone Christ, don't ever do it,
because you've got to physically go somewhere and pick it up, right,
because otherwise that you don't know who that person is.

(23:05):
Could it could be a stain and as it's such
a good price in your integrit the net could be
who could to be true? Yes, that's the only And
at the moment I'm some I've got guy and Rollinson
that I supply shees too, and he's a landscape and

(23:25):
he just does so much for her, so much, and
then I just just go, I'll get a couple of
them off you and daddy dad, So you know, you
get to you get to know people, they get to
know you. She's eyes on them from that guy. Well
so yes, well, oh good ship's you're beautiful.

Speaker 4 (23:43):
You know.

Speaker 6 (23:44):
So it's actually quite good.

Speaker 2 (23:47):
But how much was trade? How much was trade be charging.

Speaker 6 (23:51):
You ten percent?

Speaker 2 (23:55):
Okay, that's good? So how much in noidy to put
it shp together a grain did that be? How much
it does.

Speaker 6 (24:02):
Or just all depends on what side of it might have,
because you know, I do floors and the shelves and
could be a testomed job to be a lade. I
do all sorts of it's but I just feel like
they're team.

Speaker 2 (24:16):
On every on, every on, every champleche of the ship.

Speaker 6 (24:23):
It's it's hard to say because some day some mansion
might sell a lot of small sheets, have a munson myself,
a few lads sheets. So yeah, it's a days a
hard one to judge. But that's what I find was
like trade me is they writ can trade me the
most secure site for the number one site to buy
cars on and motorbikes and stuff like that. So you know,

(24:48):
because you like their men before said that you you
know who you buy it from us matters from the cargo,
and I've done. I've bought a motibike under the cargo
right and I bought it and it took me like
twenty or thirty minutes because I was engrossed building war
with another person order and then it was about three weeks.

(25:10):
I didn't hear from the guy for about two and
a half weeks. So I've gotten contact with Cravener says,
oh look, I've just play three greend for this boy,
and I haven't heard from the guy that afternoon. He rangs, sorry,
made have been away hunting Stuart Islands for.

Speaker 2 (25:26):
The white Tail for the white Tails. Yep, yes, so
I was just Look, the only reason I'm persistent about
the ship does Look at those you're tough sheds? Any good?

Speaker 6 (25:39):
They are? They are? Okay if you want timber inside.

Speaker 2 (25:42):
Yeah. So if I if I had a timber one
like right, like the bigger one, how much would that
I think it's about two and a half grand to buy?
How much would that cost for you to knock it up?

Speaker 12 (25:55):
Yeah?

Speaker 6 (25:55):
You probably round about four grand?

Speaker 2 (25:57):
I reagon, it cost you four grand just to build
it as well as the price of it. No, about
four grand dollar I can understand. Okay, fifteen hundred yeah, okay, yeah, yeah, okay,
that seems fair. They'd be a cup two days work.

Speaker 6 (26:12):
Yeah, it would be with something like that because the
ones that I build a wait, they are really faster build.
So my smaller sheet on pumping out and about air
and a half. So I can keep my cost and
all that sort of stuff down. Yeah that otherwise it
just doesn't work, you know.

Speaker 2 (26:30):
Fair enough? Okay, I'm gonna liave it there, but look
nice to hear, to talk to you. I appreciate your Honestly,
anything goes here till twelve. My name is Marcus. Welcome
and Marketplace. How's that working out for you? I don't
like it, don't I don't know what I don't like
about it. I don't like that email is this? Is
this still available? I just like things to be available

(26:54):
because then I feel out obligated to buy it. That's
my problem with that, is this still available? But I'm
sure once I started or become str Q, I don't
like Zuckerberg either. How many's creepy ways? I'm sure he's
a nice enough guy, but cheap as crips hasn't got

(27:15):
enough money by now? Can he go and do some good?
Freaks me out vaguely? Whyb be something you want to
mention eight hundred and eighty ten eighty, because surely in
the end he's gonna get everyone hooked on Marketplace and
he's going to start charging, isn't he? Or does he
make up all the money for the pop up heads?

(27:39):
I suppose that's what it is. Nineteen to nine, He'll
twelve Roman will be along at Middy's Midnight You Ros
Marcus welcome, Hi, hi Ros.

Speaker 13 (27:55):
I've sold quite a bit on trade me and yeah,
do put.

Speaker 14 (27:59):
You off of it?

Speaker 2 (28:00):
Okay? Can you tell me how much? Can you tell
me how much the fees are.

Speaker 13 (28:09):
Well, I sold a like a cast iron stove, and
I think I sold it. I think it was three
and a half or four thousand dollars, and it was.
The fees were about three hundred dollars.

Speaker 2 (28:24):
Oh wow, that is a lot. Okay. I thought it'd
be like two or three percent. Ten percent, Okay, that
is a lot.

Speaker 13 (28:30):
I think the sees are around seven or eight percent. Sure,
they do occasionally offer you fifty percent of selling, or
sometimes they do one hundred percent of selling.

Speaker 2 (28:46):
Sounds that they need to do that again to get
some more listings on. So okay, So what's the psychology
of a seller do you? Is it free just to
list and you only pay for it sells?

Speaker 15 (28:57):
Yeah, yeah, okay.

Speaker 2 (29:01):
And if you start reducing the price, then is your
commission less.

Speaker 3 (29:07):
Yeah?

Speaker 13 (29:07):
Well yeah, you reduce the price and you don't give
us much because then by the time you.

Speaker 2 (29:12):
See yeah, okay, understand, Yeah, okay, I've put on.

Speaker 13 (29:19):
I just want to not dumple them the gun. But
it's better.

Speaker 12 (29:26):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (29:26):
Absolutely. Well, I mean so this is there's ethical there's
I mean, there's the the whole environment. You know, Recycling
stuff or reusing stuff is a really good thing to
be doing also too, so it's it's it's great from
matching people's junk with the stuff people need. That's very honorable.
Have you gone to marketplace?

Speaker 13 (29:46):
Yeap? I have, and honestly, every time I just get
so many scammers and it's just put me off. But
my daughter uses marketplace.

Speaker 2 (29:58):
And even even you're trying to buy stuff, they're scamming
you that way. How are they doing that?

Speaker 10 (30:05):
Ah?

Speaker 13 (30:05):
Yeah, well I bought there. Yes, I fixed my root
and the guy was selling this box of containers of
this glue to fix I could use to fix the
leak in my roofs. And I paid him and got
him to post it, and when it came it was
just only one of the containers, not the box.

Speaker 2 (30:26):
How could you bothered? That's terrible.

Speaker 13 (30:28):
And then he just didn't supply to me. And then
I reported him to the page on Facebook that he
was advertising, and then he got hold of me instead
of threatening me.

Speaker 2 (30:40):
Oh wow, you don't want that. There should be a protection.
There should be a protection from that. You should want
to deal with anyone in person. It's terrifying.

Speaker 7 (30:47):
Yeah, it was.

Speaker 13 (30:48):
I'll never buy anything, you know.

Speaker 2 (30:51):
It just put me right off especially into glues. He
could come and come around and glue your door shut
or something too. Is it sounds quite scary.

Speaker 13 (30:58):
Well, but then they when they post got your head dress,
they know where your love exactly.

Speaker 2 (31:03):
I'll be terrified with.

Speaker 13 (31:05):
My trade made. I have a lot of stuff in
my storage unit, and I get them to meet me there. Yes,
because somebody stole like a brand new hose from my
house when I left something outside for them to pick up.

Speaker 2 (31:19):
They're staying a hose as well.

Speaker 13 (31:22):
Yeah, so you have to be a bit careful, don't you.

Speaker 2 (31:25):
I would have thought I would have thought for normal
people having a storage what did you call it? A storage?
What storage shape? I always sort of storage unit would
be society's way of telling you you've got too much stuff.

Speaker 13 (31:40):
No, well that's because I sold my house.

Speaker 2 (31:42):
Oh I see, fear enough enough, a.

Speaker 13 (31:44):
Lot of stuff in there here, but not the hose.
You probably do make more money selling at a marketplace,
but I just can't be bothered with all the scanners.

Speaker 2 (31:54):
No, it sounds pretty sketchy. That sounds that we need
fear go for marketplace. Thank you for that. Rids fifteen
to nine and join this discussion muchly. The changing state
of retail wise, try what's happening with Trade me Good?
Still with billions. I remember when they sold it for
a billion dollars and I thought, how could they? How
could they sell it for so much? Because I see

(32:17):
these days it's only about houses and jobs. A trade
me jobs is quite a big deal.

Speaker 16 (32:23):
Is that.

Speaker 2 (32:24):
I don't know where people get jobs anymore? LinkedIn I've
only been for one job interview. It was in nineteen ninety. Yep.
That's not sitting a breggy way. That's just the reality
of it. Where they get the new broadcasts from these days?

(32:44):
Probably LinkedIn Yeah, who knows? Marcus Zuckerberger's website of public enemy.
Number one of my view Facebook as a cancer on
society cheer is Tony Marcus. I they find that position
based assets are better than cash based at the moment,

(33:04):
so people are probably not selling as much as you
might think. Hold up, Marcus, I'm on face, not on Facebook,
never have been, never needed to be on with Facebook.
With the Facebook less caller, I'm not in the witness
protection program of the Great Show. Well, the irony was
he was so fixated with the pie. Would I like
to know get in touch marks till twelve. Oh wait,

(33:31):
oh wait, what a way to altogether? And if they've
got any breaking news, let's know what that is, Tobas,
It's Marcus, Welcome, Good evening evening.

Speaker 14 (33:43):
I used both trade me and Facebook a lot, but
you trade me. Thees are seven and a half percent
on general categories and I hated it up once and
I've spent close to two grand on trade me fees.

Speaker 2 (33:58):
Okay, do you think that you can? Do you think
that in charge of seven and a half percent premium
over marketplace because of the survey prosing.

Speaker 14 (34:10):
To struggle to justify the price difference.

Speaker 2 (34:12):
Now, yeah, I agree.

Speaker 14 (34:13):
I mean I have had trade me step in when
I've had people shipping coffy goods and worse, and you
get a lot less hassle than you do with marketplace.
But the end of the day, I met up. Nowadays,
I listen most things a marketplace first, certain things celebrator
on trade me, especially targeting the older generation, but means

(34:36):
on what it is.

Speaker 2 (34:39):
When you sell on marketplace? What's the mechanism to pay
for it? Do you just send some of your bank
account they put the money in as it how it works,
You just you just make an agreement with them is
that what happens marketplace.

Speaker 14 (34:50):
Is pretty much all cash on pack up on bank
account that they suggested. I'm happy for them to do it,
but normally as cash on pack up Okay, Okay.

Speaker 2 (35:04):
So it's not as good for me and bluff because
it won't be stuff to say I will there. It
just seems to work better locally, does it.

Speaker 17 (35:11):
Yeah?

Speaker 14 (35:11):
Well, I have bought things from further afar, but I'm
only on stook for person's profile, but thoroughly and if
it's quite if it's a profile that they've had for
ten years and they've got other family members on Facebook
to take to send the money through Facebook. Otherwise the
family members scamed out of reasonable amount of money, send

(35:32):
it to somebody and then nothing ever shows up.

Speaker 2 (35:35):
Okay, Okay, so.

Speaker 14 (35:38):
Comeback.

Speaker 2 (35:39):
So you've really got to go around to their house
and you've got to swap the money outside their storage unit.

Speaker 14 (35:47):
Yeah, Facebook, that's definitely usually the way I do it.

Speaker 2 (35:52):
Okay. What sort of stuff you're selling to bees? Can
you answer?

Speaker 3 (35:57):
All thoughts?

Speaker 2 (35:58):
Mostly tools machinery, so that secondhand stuff second handswer I
started out in high schools.

Speaker 14 (36:08):
I'm a first house deposit to either really.

Speaker 2 (36:10):
Oh okay, so you buy, so you buy and sell.

Speaker 14 (36:17):
I buy a fixed repair and then sell it on.

Speaker 2 (36:22):
Do you buy it from trade me as well?

Speaker 3 (36:26):
Yep?

Speaker 14 (36:26):
I mean I used to think before basic marketplace took off,
I was exclusively working on trade me. Brought off trade me,
sold on trade me quite often. Pople whatever industrial site
that need to clear out, and that's set it all
off on not load dollar reserve auctions and they'd be
untested machinery, and I just buy it untested as is.
Whereas you win some, you lose some. Some of them

(36:49):
though absolutely stuffed and there only good for scrap and
other things. One or two small tweaks tied it up.
Get some nice photos, as some things are made one
thousand percent on them.

Speaker 2 (37:01):
Wow, how important are the photos? Very important?

Speaker 18 (37:05):
I suppose very important.

Speaker 14 (37:08):
If it's something that somebody looks for specifically, they're not
so much. So it's a particular tool, and you know
that somebody's going to be looking for that particular tool,
and they'll be searching for it and they look at it.
But if it's something that somebody doesn't need so much,
then photos absolutely make the difference.

Speaker 2 (37:24):
And I suppose it's important to be honest as a
seller and give them the information and be really responsive.
Would that be right?

Speaker 17 (37:31):
Yep.

Speaker 14 (37:31):
I put all the information in and I've had no
trouble at all selling stuff on trade me, whereas Facebook
marketplace there. I had one issue once I sold a
car to a gang member who then, I mean it
was a chief car. I told it as where I
told him all the trouble that it had. Six months
later blew up on him and yeah, thin it caused
me a bit of grief.

Speaker 2 (37:54):
Sounds terrifying. Did you give him his money?

Speaker 18 (37:58):
Nah, it was a bit unnerving, And I mean I
did call the poppers and.

Speaker 14 (38:08):
I forget who he was. I paid him a relert,
but I think actually wasn't even the guy. The guy
was in prison and I figured out it was his
partner or something or.

Speaker 2 (38:16):
Rather, Wow, it's a good story to go. Oh, that's
a great story. We might push the bound to discussion
outwards to bad marketplace experiences. Your goodness, greetings, welcome on
to miss Marcus Hope. It's good were you are. What's happening?
We are discussing what's happened to trade me I buy secondhand.
It seems a very few listings but surely it can't

(38:38):
be the economy. But let me know about that. I
don't realize yet to pay seven and a half per cent,
I thought it'd be a two or three percent. Does
seem high because I don't really do much. So they
just adjudicate if you're actually having trouble getting the money
out of people. I guess he might be insurance with
that is there. I don't know that though, so you
might want to talk about that. So it's all about that.

(38:59):
People are going to marketplace, which seems sketchy to me
because Zuckerberg, we know how sketchy well Facebook, you know,
it's sort of don't really feel the love for New Zealand,
do they or do they get in touch?

Speaker 4 (39:13):
Oh?

Speaker 2 (39:13):
Eight hundred eighty ten eighty? What about SYSTEMA?

Speaker 12 (39:16):
Ah?

Speaker 2 (39:17):
Mind you look at your house thinking one's got enough
SYSTEMA eight? Do you think we've actually reached peak SYSTEMA?
They should just do free replacement lids? Pete Marcus welcome.

Speaker 10 (39:32):
Yeah. Just regarding trade me, the idea of trading, I
just like, say, a lot of your comments you're here
from Facebook and all that and marketplace, lest have trade me.
You got a little bit of comeback. You know, you
look at the you look at the feedback. You got
a bit of an idea what.

Speaker 14 (39:48):
That character is about that?

Speaker 10 (39:49):
You know you could be buying or selling to you know,
and I just you know, you pace seven point nine
percent of you whatever you sell, whatever items you're selling,
its percentings they get. And then if you relist your
items they ain't sell in seven days, you can relist
and that's got your teen cents. You just paer it
and you just fuck that over every seven days sort

(40:10):
of thing.

Speaker 2 (40:11):
How much, sorry, Pete, how much does it cost to realist?

Speaker 10 (40:15):
Ten cents per heightem per week? Okay, but you got
to realize that the markets too, you see, they got
it's like anything you pay for a service. You know,
they got they got photos they keep on this site,
They got people, they have you a bit of a
you know, deevil. You can well they used to have
a phone and will just to be quite good, you

(40:35):
could call him. They've done away of it. They don't
have the personal contact.

Speaker 2 (40:39):
Now, which hang on. It's free to list something, but
to list it for a second time cost ten cents.

Speaker 10 (40:47):
Now everything you sell cross a seven trade me. But
it's a fair of working boots.

Speaker 2 (40:52):
Or yeah, yeah, but what's the if it's done sold,
you haven't sold anything, you haven't paid anything at that stage,
have you.

Speaker 10 (40:58):
No, Then then it just rolls over for another seven
days or you have a chance you deleted if you want.

Speaker 2 (41:05):
So did you say if it realist that you've got
to play ten cents?

Speaker 10 (41:09):
Yeah? Ten cents put items for four seven days.

Speaker 2 (41:13):
So the first so the first time you're listing, it's
free because it hasn't sold. The next time it's ten cents.

Speaker 10 (41:19):
No, no, no, soon as you're listened, that cost you
ten cents straight away.

Speaker 2 (41:22):
I didn't know that. Okay, thank you for that.

Speaker 10 (41:24):
Okay, yeah, And then what happens is if you're selling,
then obviously hit the seven point nine percent. I'm not
too shy, and you deal with I don't mean how
you got your houses and all that sort of stuff
that you're still with From general items, I don't know
what they sell. But with cars, what they have is
they had especialty last week Sometimes I ever a free
usually been once a month, I have a free listing

(41:46):
for vehicles like cars, motorbikes or whatever. And they had
won last weekend for half price from the normal listing
that sell a car, so I personally, you know, I feared.
I've be other people dealing with Facebook on that as
well and marketplace and like to see your previous call
to say, you know you're going to watch how he
comes to your place and stuff. I can tradeing you

(42:07):
you have come back and you got to pay for
service and not don't mind trading. The only thing I
don't like trade me is you have these blackmailers on
trade me quite off my pretty good of my description
of my item. I'll say I'm pretty much photo of
everything of that item.

Speaker 2 (42:23):
I reckon your descriptions would be good.

Speaker 10 (42:27):
But some people they try you out, they say, oh well,
they pull out and they try to make excuses and
what they do, they'll probably buy another one and then
they'll try to flog your final fault with yours and
they all get a refund. I'm genuine, and I will say, yes,
sometimes you were not not perfect. I wish I was,
but I'm not. But sometimes I will refund if I

(42:47):
think it's genuine, I've missed that out, or they can
prove that I have missed that out. Sometimes you know
you're listenings, you can be something break and you didn't
see whatever, and I will refund them. But sometimes they
they will people, they will try you and trade me
because they pressurize you with these One thing I hate
with fraving have these redcase you have a red base.

Speaker 2 (43:06):
Sounds like you've got a few of them. I think that.
I think the red face is a bit over the top.

Speaker 10 (43:12):
That is hard to get rid of a face. Quite
often you get red faces. I call them. The say
called liars. They try to back blackmail you off. You
don't we take the refund or get a red face.
I guarantee you I get a red face on the pace.
I don't care. I'll just flick them one as well.
So it's a win win. I say to my thing,
we'll talk about it or could known it, negotiate, don't
put a red face on me. I'm gonna flicky one

(43:32):
just on and hit you just as hard.

Speaker 2 (43:34):
Yeah, I don't like it. How many red faces have
you got, Pete.

Speaker 10 (43:37):
I've got a feel I don't care.

Speaker 3 (43:39):
How many at eighteen?

Speaker 2 (43:41):
Oh you must be a rogue trader. That's unbelievable.

Speaker 10 (43:45):
Oh that's nothing. The end of the day is it's
like anything. A lot of people in a business and
that and you always get people that are not businessmen
or whatever, and you always get that and the good
normally good people, and you always get the low call
on the losers.

Speaker 2 (43:59):
Eighteen out of how many?

Speaker 10 (44:01):
Oh I've got a few that, Marcus, how.

Speaker 2 (44:03):
Many positive feedbacks have you got?

Speaker 3 (44:05):
I got shit, doe that many?

Speaker 2 (44:07):
How many is that I've got a few, got more
than a thousand?

Speaker 10 (44:13):
Yeah, I have?

Speaker 2 (44:14):
Wow.

Speaker 3 (44:15):
Well my.

Speaker 2 (44:18):
Negative percentage rates higher than yours. Peep.

Speaker 5 (44:22):
Yeah.

Speaker 10 (44:23):
Well, like you say, yeah, I say you'd be a
famine a deal with as well.

Speaker 2 (44:26):
But you always go people, I'm only I'm only buying
stuff and I've paid for everything. Sometimes I can be
a slow payer because I forget about I haven't told
an this issues to do the phone banking, so it's
my fault. But then people really escing, Oh my god,
I haven't heard from you. It's been twenty further, Well,
I got a busy. Like you know, people really sell
as they really overreacted. Oh you jeepers groupers not paid

(44:49):
by them. I'm going to get some people really kick on. Hey,
I don't like it. Freaks me out.

Speaker 10 (44:56):
I did, right, Marcus. I say to them, I'm on
a shop. You want to buy.

Speaker 2 (45:00):
Something exactly, come the phone.

Speaker 10 (45:03):
You could be on holidays anything, you know.

Speaker 2 (45:05):
It could be hunting and Stuart Island like that guy.

Speaker 16 (45:08):
Anything.

Speaker 10 (45:09):
So if you're going to buy and trade me, you might.
I don't care. Some people buy off me. They could
be on a camper home. Oh buy it, but I
might pick it up in a month. I said. It
doesn't worry me. I don't no problems. I sell the
damn thing. I don't care.

Speaker 12 (45:20):
So you have a bit.

Speaker 10 (45:21):
We've got to have a little bit of flexibility on
trade me. Otherwise forget it otherwise. But they expect you.
They think they're just going to fall out of the
sky and land on their doorstep. Don't work that way.

Speaker 2 (45:30):
No, sure you're a straight shoot, Pete. Tell me why
you didn't go to market. You don't like it? Do
your marketplace?

Speaker 10 (45:36):
No, if you had so many rumors about the market,
these things something of your previous call callers there they
sort of you know, call at least have trade me.
That's just me. You have a bit of a comeback
and you can't email them and trade me is pretty
good to me. They know me, and they sort of
know when I call a spade. I called a spade.
But I'm not gonna I'm.

Speaker 2 (45:55):
Gonna fall on what do you call what do you
call a spade?

Speaker 10 (45:59):
I call a spade a spade on the set, I
just say I call it the way it is. You
can't please everybody, Marcus, like you said, you're going to
get you're going to get negative feedbacks from I call them.
I call them just not nice people to deal with.
Then I don't care. I'll just fling them one back anyway,
so they lose. We all lose by getting refaces. You
already deserve it. I don't mind old. I'll take a

(46:20):
canning if I need a canny. I don't care at all.
Sometimes you don't deserve the canning. I'll just give them
the canning back.

Speaker 2 (46:25):
Brilliant, pat liking you, Thank you, Oh eight hundred eighty Tenny,
Marcus till midnight. Woo Josh, it's Marcus. Welcome.

Speaker 19 (46:39):
You're right, Josh oh yo, Hey Marcus, sorry about that.
That's all right, Oh, just clearing the throat, hey with
trade me in Facebook. The disappointing thing about Facebook because
trying to read into somebody's feedback, because it's not very

(47:01):
good at recording feedback for different vendors whereas trade me
it's pretty solid, like you know sort of who you're
dealing with. That's a great advantage. Plus, if you've got
good feedback, that's that's good for yourself. Obviously, people can

(47:24):
trust what you have. Facebook relax with geolocation as well.

Speaker 2 (47:30):
I don't like it. I'm not over it. I don't
like that.

Speaker 19 (47:33):
Yeah, I don't like that too, because you get freaks
trying to scam you from a million miles away. Like
my attitude is like, I are you in Auckland? He's like,
can you ring me? Da da da da da. So
the thing is, you know the scams where they try

(47:54):
and forward numbers or messenger try and get you the Yeah,
you don't want to click on random phone numbers or
links or whatever to communicate outside of that, because that's
something that they try as well. So but negative feet,
I mean you can't even read positive or negative feedback
on Facebook. But trade me is pretty straight up.

Speaker 2 (48:17):
You got your feedback on Facebook, so there's nothing that
you can't go into the character. You can see if
you've got friends in common, though, can.

Speaker 19 (48:23):
You excuse me? I suppose you can. But again, you
don't know how many records of like you don't know
how many sales successful transactions the individuals at so it
kind of messes things up because you're you're talking to
Abdullah from who knows where and you need.

Speaker 2 (48:45):
To do you need to go with that name as
your example.

Speaker 19 (48:49):
Well, it could be anybody. It could be Ali, I
don't know. Yeah, okay, but yeah, it's just yeah. Trade
me is solid for New Zealand because at least you
can see feedback. You know who you're dealing with.

Speaker 2 (49:04):
What are you?

Speaker 3 (49:04):
What are you?

Speaker 2 (49:05):
Are you buying or selling?

Speaker 19 (49:08):
Oh h a bit of both, but of both. I've
got pretty good feedback. I can say that. On Facebook.
I've had some Oh I've hit some bizarre interactions. I
had a guy who said he'll deliver straight away. I
was like, were you He's like, Mannica, He's deliver And

(49:29):
I was like okay, and I was like you're a
bit eager to deliver. Yeah twenty minutes like but I delivered.

Speaker 3 (49:40):
But oh, I was like, what's going on here?

Speaker 19 (49:44):
Like you know and and yeah. Just looking at characters feedback,
I couldn't even put positive feedback for that character.

Speaker 2 (49:56):
Why did he deliver?

Speaker 4 (49:58):
Yeah?

Speaker 3 (49:58):
He did?

Speaker 4 (50:00):
But what was wrong with?

Speaker 2 (50:04):
What was wrong? With this just too keen.

Speaker 19 (50:06):
Well, I'm no, no, no, I'm just saying like like like
on trade me, there's a there's a direct correlation of
negative and positive feedback, whereas Facebook I couldn't even place
any positive or negative feedback on the character.

Speaker 4 (50:26):
What was he?

Speaker 2 (50:27):
What was he so keen to deliver?

Speaker 19 (50:29):
Oh?

Speaker 3 (50:31):
Who knows?

Speaker 4 (50:31):
Probably what?

Speaker 3 (50:33):
Who knows?

Speaker 2 (50:34):
What was the product?

Speaker 19 (50:36):
I mean what a cell phone's cheap?

Speaker 4 (50:40):
Oh?

Speaker 2 (50:40):
Yeah, I see? What was what was the product?

Speaker 19 (50:44):
A little Nintendo henheld o?

Speaker 2 (50:48):
You say things off to his dealer.

Speaker 3 (50:50):
I don't know, you.

Speaker 19 (50:51):
Know, I'm speculating, but.

Speaker 2 (50:58):
How much? How much was it?

Speaker 19 (51:01):
H probably fifty bucks cheaper than trade me?

Speaker 2 (51:05):
And then just likeer, then did you want sell it?

Speaker 3 (51:12):
No?

Speaker 19 (51:12):
No, no, I buy tattooed with it for Yonk's good
period of time. But hey, what do you sell? I
don't suppose you've got to talk about.

Speaker 3 (51:28):
What do you call it?

Speaker 4 (51:29):
The tax?

Speaker 19 (51:30):
Do you call it tax on capital?

Speaker 4 (51:34):
Capital?

Speaker 3 (51:34):
Games tax?

Speaker 19 (51:35):
We're not going to talk about that.

Speaker 17 (51:37):
So are you you.

Speaker 2 (51:39):
Predicted that one? What you predicted that one?

Speaker 6 (51:41):
Well?

Speaker 19 (51:43):
Well, hey mate, the thing is will trade me? So
just so everybody knows, you've got twenty grand a year
anything over that hat. You're you're turning yourself into a business,
so you need to pay tax, so at least say
if they are, I.

Speaker 2 (51:58):
D but you're in a business just buying the occasional Nintendo,
are you?

Speaker 3 (52:02):
No?

Speaker 19 (52:02):
Not really, I'm I'm a clickor so like.

Speaker 2 (52:04):
I'll give b what do you collect?

Speaker 19 (52:08):
I'll get boll lots of stuff and grable the stuff
I want, mate, you know, and then I'll be like, well,
I've got three of those, I only need two or one?

Speaker 2 (52:17):
What do you collect?

Speaker 19 (52:21):
But I was hot on consoles, so very new consoles
and boxes a Marina so got that got kind of a.

Speaker 2 (52:31):
Bit difficult, not gaming consoles.

Speaker 19 (52:36):
Gaming consoles, ron start.

Speaker 2 (52:42):
Yeah, you just open a museum.

Speaker 19 (52:44):
H cards like league cards. I'm big fan of league
Rugby league?

Speaker 3 (52:54):
Yeah, do they have do they have?

Speaker 2 (52:57):
Do they have Rugby league? Click the cards?

Speaker 12 (52:59):
Oh?

Speaker 4 (53:02):
If you ask me that question, mate, yeah, that's straight up.

Speaker 19 (53:06):
Oh Jesus, that's not cool. Hey, there's plenty of collectible
rugby league cards. There's some gold out there. There's some
really nice, nice little collectibles you can get. And we've
been well, I should say were We've had different collectible
churing gum cards, it's about eighty nine. We actually before that,

(53:30):
before that, because there's cards from the mids seventies as
well obviously on around then. Can't account for that plenty
of free cards.

Speaker 2 (53:40):
What gum was it?

Speaker 19 (53:43):
They had Regina in the nineties they had ninety one,
ninety two, ninety three, ninety four was wol Regina. So
you got like you've got a little packet and you've
got shuring gum. You've got a few cards. It was
very cool, man, And if you're lucky you get like
a Malning Gold card or whatever it was.

Speaker 2 (54:05):
You know, into that, Josh, nice to talk to you.
Enjoyed that, Tony. It's Marcus.

Speaker 12 (54:11):
Good evening, good evening, Marcus.

Speaker 2 (54:14):
Hey, good, thank you, Tony.

Speaker 12 (54:16):
Now it's knowing here.

Speaker 3 (54:18):
How are you good?

Speaker 2 (54:19):
Thank you? Who is it? Motown moldy? Did you say my.

Speaker 3 (54:24):
Moldy? Mate?

Speaker 12 (54:25):
That was almost funnier than your last caller. What did
you say?

Speaker 2 (54:29):
What's your first word?

Speaker 12 (54:31):
Motown mowing?

Speaker 2 (54:33):
Oh? I apologize? Okay, how's the bowing business mate?

Speaker 12 (54:46):
It's good mate, it's getting great. I'm busy, busy, busy.

Speaker 2 (54:49):
You are you employing?

Speaker 12 (54:52):
No, no, no, I'm I'm self employed. One man band.

Speaker 2 (54:56):
You want to keep it. You want to keep it
that way.

Speaker 12 (54:59):
Well, well, yes, I do in a way. But if
I get bigger, i'll get a young following. No, I
won't go out. I won't go out every time for
somebody else. You know, I'll get a nephew or something
like that.

Speaker 2 (55:11):
Okay, one day i'll see your shot of my lord.
I think you'd be quite impressed. But today's not the day.

Speaker 12 (55:15):
Downy oh, Okay, Now, look, I'll tell you a story.
Markets say a story.

Speaker 10 (55:20):
Now.

Speaker 12 (55:20):
I'm on ACC full time now and definitely now, I
was on a major character and ten years ago, just
over ten years ago. Now, I was a truckt over
for fifteen years. I couldn't drive anymore because they revoked
my truck licenses because of croppled on on my right
side of my body. Now I'm on a marketplace. That's

(55:42):
where I get all my work from. I've got pamphlets,
I've got business cards. I've done them all myself, and
my pamphlets and business cards have given me nothing. Basically,
I get all my work from marketplace.

Speaker 3 (56:01):
Now.

Speaker 12 (56:01):
The thing about marketplace is if you're selling something and
you go to be a good judge of character, it's anything,
isn't it. You got to be a good judge of character.
And if you're going to get these those are bad,
bad comebacks and all that. You just have to ignore
it and carry on. So that's that's my place on marketplace.
So that's where I get all my work from.

Speaker 2 (56:21):
It's been a lifesaver for you, DNA.

Speaker 12 (56:24):
It has been because you know, it's hard to get
work in my condition, because you know they don't take
you seriously because I walk with a limp and I
can't use my right side of my body. I only
have to use my west side.

Speaker 3 (56:36):
You see.

Speaker 12 (56:38):
So after I do the lawns, that meant the customers
because they look look at my work and go, wow,
this guy's are made and he's better than the Indian
guy or the other guy, the Chinese guy that we hired.
I've got a lot of I hear a lot of
complaints about big companies. Jim's knowing crew cut my complaints.
They they don't do the job properly. You get someone

(56:58):
on marketplace like men.

Speaker 2 (57:03):
I kind of your begging. I kind of you begging companies.

Speaker 20 (57:05):
But I'm here fair enough.

Speaker 3 (57:07):
Fair enough.

Speaker 12 (57:08):
But I'm just telling you how it is a straight shooter.
I know, I know how it is already.

Speaker 2 (57:12):
You can't do that, so do you Okay, so you
you're you're just you struggle with one side of you're
moving on one side?

Speaker 20 (57:22):
Is that right?

Speaker 3 (57:24):
Well?

Speaker 12 (57:25):
Well yes, basically.

Speaker 2 (57:28):
The people do people pre judge you when you turn.

Speaker 12 (57:30):
Up, of course, but depends. I mean a lot of
people are pretty nice and and they're pretty good you
know that they like it when they.

Speaker 2 (57:41):
I think most people would be I think most would
respond positively to it.

Speaker 12 (57:45):
Well they do, yeah, they do. There's a really a
lot of nice people out there. I'll tell you that now.
And and and to me, marketplace is a good avenue
for for people like me, for people who are struggling
because you know, no one people most people that are
on MicroPlace haven't got a big scene of business business scenes,

(58:06):
you know what I'm saying. Yeah, you know that that
they're they're just doing it to make a buck. And
at the end of the day, and those ones that
that give you give your negative feedback, you know, you
just have to ignore it. You know, they're like the
other guys said, they're the ones that lose at the
end of the day. So market good avenue for for

(58:28):
for a lot of people. So you're still going to You're.

Speaker 2 (58:31):
Still going to pick up the cabbagetry leaves that, don't you.

Speaker 19 (58:36):
Well, yeah, of course, of course.

Speaker 2 (58:38):
Well if they get stuck around that spindle, that's hard
work trying to free them off there, and I've done
that a number of times that I'll just mow over them.

Speaker 12 (58:45):
Yeah, yeah, you mentioned, you mentioned, but your cabbage leaves.
The last conversation we had about about your lord's.

Speaker 2 (58:51):
Yeah, become predictable. It's not a surprise nice to hear
from your motown mowing. Oh eight hundred and eighty nine
ninety tis one of them is Marcus Hill twelve Trade
me versus Marketplace, the Battle of the dull on, just
wondering a loud why in fact trade me so quiet?
I have a regular search and I buy things, and

(59:14):
normally I've got ten to fifteen twenty things going on
at the same time, but nothing at the moment. A
lot of people asking how that guy sortd it down
on acc A. I'd ask questions about that. That's between
him and the acc I guess there'd be a way
to work about that. Marcus, this guy's wrong. It's FREEDO

(59:36):
List ten cents if you go over fifty auctions and
fees have sold. Dear Marcus, thank you very much for
your scrub Daddy chat on Friday Night. Best Chad ever.
Thanks to scrub Daddy and barkeeper's friend, my shower days
are flipping amazing. Even better. Have a new secret, Sandra.
I did three bag of Christmas scrub Daddies for fifteen
ninety nine. Yeah, think there's gonna be a lot of

(59:57):
scrub daddies for the Secret Center. Sexce you even got
me back in Secret Center for that. No, I'm never
going back in Secret I hate it with such a passion.
The other thing I hate. I hate a strong word.
The other thing I don't like, And I imagine there's

(01:00:20):
probably gonna be no one that agrees with me. So, oh,
you're so wrong, Marcus. We love it you can. Oh,
Marcus is so wrong. I don't like concert beggars that
beg to get up on stage. I hate that. Oh,
pick me to do a guitar solo. If I was
any video, I wouldn't do that. We'll get him up

(01:00:41):
on stage. I don't care. I just think it looks.
I don't know, I don't know why I struggle with
it. It's just just a bit desperate. For those who don't
know a pearl jams someone saying pick me for a
guitar solo. They got him on stage. I mean your concerts,

(01:01:01):
you're gonna hear a band play. Don'm going to see
a seventeen year old play. They're all looking. I tell
you how I play that Bed Swerver? What was his name?
Who's that Bed Swerver from Foo Fighters Roll and with
the Love Baby. He's always getting different people up on stage.
Oh yeah, and getting some it's all preregged direct and

(01:01:21):
getting some eight year old that can drum not into it.
Then cold plays bringing kind of they're bringing like Michael J.
Fox on to play Johnny B.

Speaker 10 (01:01:34):
Good.

Speaker 2 (01:01:34):
I mean that's a bit better this. The audience would
be surprised about that. So cold plays here. He'll be
Wednesday to be so you'll get someone on stage to
do something. I don't know who it'll be, Marcus. I've
furnished my entire brand new apartment of Facebook marketplace and

(01:01:56):
it was fast and easy. I don't use trade me
as the whole auction part is annoying. I just want
to know the price. Posters a price. It will be Oh,
it's a good point. I hadn't thought about that. The
price never goes up on marketplace. I just trust being
smart and choosy from what suburb you purchase from Marcus.

(01:02:20):
A lot of trade me sellers rip you off for freight.
I get so hacked off at the exorbitant prices fifty
to twenty dollars when it arrives, it costs five dollars
or less using a cheaper freight, and there's no recourse.
I've had some beautifully packed things. I've had something so
well packed I've just about cried, Marcus. I've been a

(01:02:42):
major trader on trade me since it's conception. I would
have used the word inception, but conception works both buying
and selling. Like yourself, I've noticed these huge reduction and trades.
Trade me has done two point four billion trades to date.
The elephant of the room is definitely Team Who. Many

(01:03:03):
of my friends are regard traders using it now regards Dino.
By the way, the surprising thing about trade me is
that the number of items in my category it stopped
very very suddenly, so I couldn't work out. It was
like it went off the cliff. And they've never come back.
I thought for a while I was clicked on the
wrong setting. I was just on you rather than sick.

(01:03:23):
I couldn't work it out. I still can't. Debslitely got
me baffled. But oh well, but it just seems listings
are off the cliff anyway, if you want to comment
on that or marketplace. Yeah, it sounds like they're keen
to come around to your house. I don't want people

(01:03:46):
coming around to that. I've ever been around to the house.
I brought a I brought a Nockier. There's old phones
that can play Snake. What's it called a nine eight
two one or something nine two one oh one of
the old Nokiers. The only thing I've ever bought in
a pick up. This was the early days. It's about

(01:04:06):
years ago, ten years ago, twelve years ago in Auckland
and I had to go around to the Air Force
base for Neuapai. Quite a big moment for me. I'd
never never been to a live pick up for trade me.

(01:04:27):
It's a good phone, got very good at snake. He's
a text I've been waiting for all night. Marcus one
word Lois. I know she's been rather quite the last
few hit outs. But after all the constructive criticisms she's
given as a fan of call as well as you've

(01:04:49):
out of respect the entire goes used to be all Blacks.
With the second one in six days, they ended Ireland's
nineteen game winning streak. The results don't lie sorry. By
the way, there's been a lot of criticism about the
guy that got the fifty to twenty two kick, the
Kiwi guy that plays for Ireland, the guy the topknot
or top knot Terry celebrating when he did the kick

(01:05:14):
even though the ten points down then blew the line out,
So there's been a lot of criticism about that. I
didn't think that was too bad. What I thought was
worse was the way the English celebrate when they get
a penalty or when a scraum. That was kind of

(01:05:35):
a yeah, James Lowe is the guy, but that was
kind of undignified. I thought the way that the English
teams celebrate, that's just my comment. Saw the brand new
train engine going through Englewood Taranaki on Sunday passenger units.
Very nice engine, well up with the rail story. I
wouldn't know what Miss Snake High School was, but it
was a long snake. Let's put it that way. There

(01:06:00):
must be a theoretical high point you can't go beyond
with Snake. I found a found myself playing it when
I was driving. You know how you get too hooked
on it wasn't good. Put it down. But what happened
to that phone? That will we a draw somewhere like
most people have full of old phones. Let me just
reset the topic. What we are talking about is what's

(01:06:20):
happened to trade me? It's dead? Has everyone gone to marketplace?
Because it's for a lot of us marketplace it freaks
us out. Contact and say is this item still available?
Surely once you're sold it comes off, it's no longer.
That's what I don't like how the listings remain up there.

(01:06:42):
Blari could probably Trade Me would be a big website
for me only because of the two things I buy.
I've probably got four pop ups. There's three things I buy,
actually all of them are extremely obscure, but in all
three categories or in one category that only be one

(01:07:04):
listing a year, probably, but the other listings was probably
two things a day. And now there's none, which is
a pretty dramatic end. And I can't work out why
that is uh oh, here's one of the things I want.
How come that didn't pop up in my algorithm? Jupis

(01:07:28):
that'll see me right for Christmas? I might do a
bit of a buy now on that one good thing.
I googled that up. Actually, why am I get an ALERD?
Where's the alert? You got to actually try with different
combinations of letters, don't you, because sometimes it's messes them
up for you. Anyway, that's enough for me. Need some

(01:07:48):
more calls now and they'll kick into the next hour
you might want to have. I said enough about the
rugby year. That's so I thought. I thought it was
the English that was worse. And I mean, it's not
the worst crime in the world over celebrating, but it's embarrassing.
I'm glad our players don't over celebrate, and none of
them look like they would over celebrate. I can't even
image anyone with them the news in a team looking

(01:08:09):
at that over celebrate. Which of the all Beecks would
be an over celebrator. You'd even say, Will Jordan might
be primed with, but I've never seen him over celebrate.
Caleb Clark, he doesn't over celebrate. Who's on the other
wing Talia. He wouldn't over celebrate. No, I don't think
that the over celebrators there. All the Fords are pretty stoic.

(01:08:30):
There's normally yeppy halfback that it's an over celebrator. But
those two seem fitty level headed. Damien, he wouldn't be
an over celebrator. No, I don't think any of them
would be. But the English must be horrible to play
when you drop the ball and they kind of high
fiving each other and sort of chest bumping. Anyway, their
journey get in Touch by name is Marcus. Welcome heed

(01:08:52):
on midnight Marcus Good Program. As usual. Once sold a
mannequin on trade me on behalf of a friend. We
arrange the buyer to pick up from our home. A
tinted white van arrived and a strange man got out,
and the first thing she said, it's the first thing
that's was that's the attractive mannequin. He proceeded to make
third person comments about the mannequin and also asked where

(01:09:13):
my female friend was to complete the sale. He eventually
changed his mind about the mannequin, despite driving four hours
to pick it up. We think you have another agenda
that day. We've never arranged pick up from home address.
Since good evening, Michelle Att's Marcus, welcome and good evening.

Speaker 16 (01:09:28):
Hi Marcus.

Speaker 21 (01:09:28):
I love your show. I just thought i'd dis give
you a ring and just talk about a instance I
had when I bought an item through Marketplace. If that's okay,
absolutely yeah. I saw umbrella advertised I can't he leave
an umbrella advertised for one hundred dollars, and I thought, well,
that's quite good because I thought they were quite four

(01:09:49):
or five hundred dollars each. So I replied and I said,
could I please buy this? And it had cash only,
so I thought, well that's okay. So anyway, I replied
and the woman said there's only five lefts or one
lest hurry up and get get it in now. And
so they said, well, we'll come and deliver it. And

(01:10:10):
they said where do you live? And I said I've
told them where I lived, and they said that's good.
I'm just up the road. And so anyway, within about
ten minutes they were round Wow with this great big
umbrella on the back of a truck, on the back
of an yeah, but it had was a truck, sort
of a small truck, and I gave them one hundred dollars.

(01:10:30):
They bought it round the back, and I gave him
one hundred dollars, and I thought, gosh, that's weird because
they sort of wanted to come right now and deliver it.
So anyway, I thought this is a bit strange. I
didn't even think anything of it. But when I got
it and I looked at the back, I thought, gosh,
this they must be wanting to get rid of us

(01:10:51):
quite quickly. There's something, there's something.

Speaker 2 (01:10:54):
A bit I was suspicious because there was such a hurry.

Speaker 21 (01:10:57):
Yes, I was, so I got on the I sent
my son a message and I said, oh, guess what.
I've just bought this umbrella, this great big umbrella, and
it's just been delivered to me, and I think it's hot.
But instead of sending the message to my son to

(01:11:18):
the people I.

Speaker 2 (01:11:19):
Had bought it, Oh so easy to do. We've all
done that. You're send the message to the person you're
thinking about about them to them, wow, okay.

Speaker 21 (01:11:28):
The message back saying what tea, Yes, we wouldn't have
sold it to you. What are you saying?

Speaker 7 (01:11:35):
My husband?

Speaker 21 (01:11:36):
My husband has got a trucking company and he works
drinking hard. And I thought yeah, well, it's fallen off
the back of a truck. He's he's gone and picked
it up from from somewhere and he's delivered it, and
that's why they wanted to get rid of it so quickly.
And I thought to myself, shivers are going to come
round now. I locked all the house up, locked the
doors up, and I was by myself, and anyway, I think,

(01:12:00):
how am I going to reply? And I said and
I said, oh, I was just meaning it was a
hot umbrella.

Speaker 15 (01:12:06):
In hot stuff.

Speaker 21 (01:12:08):
I really really liked her. And they said and they said, oh, okay, okay,
that's that's okay. Then I thought, shiver, they're going to
come back around to my place. And I was so
scared anyway, they I realized when I when someone came in,
because it was so heavy, I realized that that only

(01:12:30):
delivered part of the umbrella. So I only hit the
top of it, so I didn't have the base and
I didn't have the stand for it. So here's me
with this half of it, a big umbrella that I
couldn't do anything with because it was you couldn't put
it on the ground because I had to ever stand
with it or anything. And I really had no idea.

(01:12:52):
So here's me thinking what the hen am I going
to do? And so I saw where it came from.
It came from O to ten so, and you can't
buy parts for it. So I had to spend the
next day running around all these my stores asking them
where they've got a base and where they've got to.
So I managed to get get a base and get

(01:13:13):
it to get a stand, and managed to put it,
put it together, and it lasted me. It lasted me
a year or so. But I couldn't believe it when
I sent the message to them and I.

Speaker 15 (01:13:27):
Thought, gosh, how good?

Speaker 2 (01:13:28):
How did you pay for it?

Speaker 21 (01:13:30):
I paid one hundred dollars so it.

Speaker 2 (01:13:32):
Was normally five hundred.

Speaker 8 (01:13:34):
Yeah, it was normally.

Speaker 21 (01:13:35):
About four hundred and fifty five hundred dollars.

Speaker 2 (01:13:37):
Yeah, yeah, And how much did you have to pay
for the extra parts?

Speaker 8 (01:13:42):
Oh?

Speaker 21 (01:13:42):
Well, you know what, they don't sell the extra parts.
So they actually ended up giving them to me. One
of the extra parts, Like you know how you've got
to you've got the handle that you actually wind wind it,
wind it up and down. So anyway, they didn't. It
didn't have a handle on. I got a base and
I got the stand, but I didn't have the handle.

(01:14:04):
I wrote it one of the nighted ten stores and
they said, yes, we think we've got one here, so
I raced over there and they said, you're not going
to believe this, but we've just we've just loaded this
great big burn out the back and put all our
rubbish in it, and we think it's at the bottom
of that. So if you wait ten minutes, we'll see

(01:14:24):
if we can find this handle. And I went outside.
I saw the rubbish bit and it was completely I
was flowing with stuff, and I thought, how the hell
are they ever going to find an like a handle
for an umbrella in this in this bin? Anyway, ten
minutes later here they came with this handle for the umbrella.

(01:14:45):
So I managed to get the umbrella. So I had
to go to about four different places to get all
the different parts, but I couldn't tell them. They said, well, well,
how have you got the have you got the receipt
for it? Because how come you've lost you haven't got
these bits? And I said, oh, I went to put
it up and I can't find them, so I couldn't
tell them what had happened or anything.

Speaker 2 (01:15:05):
And approached the vet the sellers themselves about where the
extra stuff were or did you not want to after you?

Speaker 21 (01:15:11):
I said that I didn't know much about it because
I knew I wanted a candy Lever umbrella, but I
didn't really know much about them. So when there was
this great big thing delivered, because it was huge, I
just assumed all the bits were with them.

Speaker 2 (01:15:26):
Okay, but you didn't go back and ask them where
the extra bits were.

Speaker 21 (01:15:29):
No, I didn't do that. And that was the reason
I didn't do that was because they must have pinched.
They must have just loaded that onto their truck. They
didn't get the whole lot of it. I mean once
once I told them it was hot, there was no
I was going to ask them where the rest of
it was. And then when they told me that my

(01:15:50):
husband's a truck driver, I thought, yeah, well he goes around.

Speaker 2 (01:15:54):
And that was an assumption by you, was it? They
might you might have approached and they would have had
the spare bits, but.

Speaker 21 (01:16:02):
No, I doubt very much, because they were in such
a hurry to get rid of it, and.

Speaker 2 (01:16:08):
It was really cheap to have it delivered to when
the price.

Speaker 21 (01:16:11):
I mean, I didn't realize. I didn't realize where it
came from. But I locked up, like I locked up
the Bunnings and the market, and then I saw the
exact one in my attendant was advertised for four hundred
and fifty five hundred dollars, and I thought, well, why
would they only have part of it anyway? And so
what I've what I probably think, I mean, it was

(01:16:33):
an ansumption. But then when I said I've just bought
this umbrella and it's hot, they got really really really
angry with me or what what they what?

Speaker 16 (01:16:43):
TF?

Speaker 21 (01:16:44):
And and we would never would have sold it to you,
So that that sort of told me all I needed
to know. But I was so petrified they were going
to come back. So I locked all the house up,
and I actually that the umbrella was still sitting outside,
so I grabbed it and I bought it inside and
locked all the doors and shut the curtains up, thinking
they're going to come back round.

Speaker 2 (01:17:06):
So you got everything in the end, you got everything
back from might A ten.

Speaker 21 (01:17:11):
Yes, in the end, I managed to go to four
different might have tens and just said to them, well,
I've lost this part in one place, I've lost this part.
And so they looked up and said, oh, we don't
have this part, but if you go to this one,
I think they've got they've got one showing because it's
spear parts. I guess, so they do get some speed
ups when people return them.

Speaker 2 (01:17:31):
You know they might lasted a year.

Speaker 21 (01:17:35):
Yeah, it did only last because what well, the reason
it only lasted a year is because I put it
outside and I sort of tried to use it like
a gazebo. So I had it outside and I didn't
take it down, and it sort of got quite weathered.
And then it's when cycling Gabriel, that's when it completely
fell apart.

Speaker 2 (01:17:54):
Okay, yeah, we'd never put anything on that up on
bluff because it ended up in the straight week. That's yes,
But that looks that's a tremendous story because we've all
done we've all texted people that were Yeah, we've all
done that faring off a text, but you're seeing the
text it's about to the person. Hi, Daniel, it's Marcus. Welcome.

Speaker 20 (01:18:17):
Hey Marcus just calling in regards to trade me. I'm
wondering if maybe your issue is caused by a few
upgrades that they have at the moment on the website.
So I lost a little bit of stuff on trade
me and I'll buy and sell. But lately, and they've

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kind of advertised it a little bit, they've been doing
some upgrades and maintenance in the background, and I've noticed
a number of pictures and stuff haven't been working quite right.
You can't see the view like how many people have
viewed you item. You can't see how many people have
in the watch this and as you click into it.
I've had a number of realists come back on with

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pick up no longer allowed stuff like that, So I
wonder if maybe that might be part of the issue.
And then on the Facebook marketplace, like I've done it
a few times, but I probably know more people that
it's fallen over for than than hasn't.

Speaker 2 (01:19:23):
Okay, So you're saying that you're saying more deals go
bad than are than are successful.

Speaker 20 (01:19:32):
I reckon. In my experience in Auckland, I've had a
few people anyone that's done a bank transfer nine times
out of ten, they seem to just fail. As a
person rubbing them off. But one of the things I
like with trade me that makes me feel a bit
more confident with using it is ping now.

Speaker 2 (01:19:50):
Yes, I love I love thing. I kept I keep
going a PayPal but it's called ping. I love it.

Speaker 9 (01:19:55):
Yep.

Speaker 20 (01:19:56):
Yeah, so good. And the beauty is there's actually extra
features that people don't even realize, Like, you know, it's
a device breaks or it doesn't, you're actually protected by
a trade meet, you know, and buy the terms of things.
So I think there's some time frame forty days or
thirty days or something like that on things. But if

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you actually buy a product and it breaks, they'll they'll
look after you kind of thing. I really like that.
I think that's really good. It does sting you, though,
Like I recently bought a watch off a guy on
there and he accepted my offer with paying them. By
the time you pay anything over one thousand dollars, you're

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you're going to be paying nearly one hundred dollars in
fees and then the pain gets you another tubercent on
top of that. So it does kind of put a
few people off for those high ticket items. But you know,
I just recently sold a car through there and it
was a week and it was gone for a fair price.
You know, I think it's great.

Speaker 2 (01:20:57):
Did the watch turn out all right?

Speaker 20 (01:20:59):
Not's just great? Man, I'm wearing an but I'm very careful.

Speaker 2 (01:21:02):
With did you check out, did you use the pusher?
Take the strap off and check the number on the
on the frame.

Speaker 20 (01:21:10):
Yeah, I happen to work for a talco and it's
a solar to watch.

Speaker 3 (01:21:14):
I did not do it.

Speaker 2 (01:21:15):
Okay, okay, Hey what were you saying? You said about
nine out of ten people that that have bought on
marketplace and done a bank transaction. What's happened to those
nine out of ten people?

Speaker 20 (01:21:28):
Look, you know, they're often like they'll say they're going
to ship it, and then you know it's probably a
bit of an exaggeration. Nine out of ten, you know, like,
you know, they'll say they're going to ship an item
and it doesn't turn up. And then you'll see the
people that'll go on Facebook and you know, I don't
know if you have a regional Facebook down there.

Speaker 2 (01:21:46):
Yes we do, Yeah we do.

Speaker 20 (01:21:48):
You know, every other week it's like, oh, does anyone
know this person? And you know, I paid a deposit
and I've gone to the house and they don't live
there or something you know along the lines of that.
I see that.

Speaker 2 (01:22:01):
Quite So it's just it's just a total scam. It's
just they've just put a photo of something that that
doesn't exist, right, absolutely.

Speaker 20 (01:22:07):
One of the earlier calls talked about it. Right. You'll generally,
if you've done your due diligence on there, you've gone
on and checked in, you know, half the time these
scammer one. And I've actually had one experience I'll talk
about it after briefly where I went on and the
the profile of the person is like weeks old, you know,
and at the screen, you know, was a great price

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for the same watch they ended up buying, but through
tradeing from another color. But I even had one person
come to me once on trade me and my questions
and say, hey, are you also selling this on Facebook marketplace?
And I said, no, I don't sell anything on Facebook marketplace.
I only buy. And the person had actually taken my

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photos and suddenly enough had my I always put my
trade me name and my photos like written on a
piece of paper so that it's people know it's me
and the date normally, and they had actually taken those
photos and created their own list thing on trade me,
I'd say, on Facebook marketplace, and I actually ended up
having a reporter and Meta or Facebook or whatever you

(01:23:14):
want to call them these days. They did actually to
their credit take it down within like a few hours
of new reporting that it was my listing, but there
was a random thing that I had happened. So yeah,
they'd taken all of my details off my trade me
listing and listed at using my photos and my trade
me you know the guff that I've written down, and

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they'd use that on Facebook marketplace to try and scam people.

Speaker 2 (01:23:41):
So you're basically much better going around and doing a
case transaction at the point of sale. Is that right?

Speaker 20 (01:23:48):
I've done quite a bit, Like it's quite a good
thing for secondhand video games and stuff like that, So
I didn't just try and meet them at their house again.
You finally try to keep it local. But you know,
I've brought a few video games like Nintendo games. I
can never call them dead. But yeah, And the key

(01:24:09):
to trade me, I found, is to get the best
here is you'll look at those options that end at
weird times like the middle of the day and stuff
like that, when there's less people want.

Speaker 2 (01:24:19):
I think what a lot of my success with trade
me is. And I don't know I learned this on eBay.
I think someone advised me is by typing in different
spellings like you imagine the person selling is an idiot,
and how that's misspelled the item you're searching for, and

(01:24:40):
very few people get to sell get to see that item.
So I'll do alternative searchers and it seems to work
out really well for me.

Speaker 20 (01:24:48):
Yeah. Yeah, like that's how ad works and stuff work
with Google. I believe you know, use every word that
they might or have used and you can find some gems.

Speaker 2 (01:24:58):
Yeah, okay, Hey Daniel, nice to talk to. Thank you
for that. Marcus have been a trademark users trade trade
me user since two thousand, so that's twenty four years.
Facebook marketplace user for about eight years. Both have their
pros and cons and you have to know your target
audience and comparative items of your trying to get rid of.
If you're trying to get off, you're trying to get

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rid of to get the best chance of selling. Trade
me is definitely losing dollars big time to Facebook. Trade
We now have fee promos every second weekend. Feels like
they are trying too hard. I say thank goodness for competitions.
Trade me has been a monopoly for too long. Their
fees would be much higher by now if not for

(01:25:40):
Facebook's existence. If something's on trade me for three thousand,
I'm charged four hundred trade me fee if I sell.
I think that's wrong. I think it's seven point eight percent.
Someone said, but you do you if I say anything
on market Facebook, market Base, it's freeze. That's why more
people are sitting on trade me. I'm impressed with whether

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the people from Upper Hut stayed in Auckland, so they
would have got the US from the airport to Puanui,
got the train in downtown. How did to me to
walk to High Street? Then they would have got the
walk back and the train to mount Smart Stadium. That
would work out. That's good, entirely approve. We stayed. Thank

(01:26:26):
you for that, Marcus. I am a digital marketing professional.
Facebook makes money from the ads you see in the marketplace.
They have filtered based on algorithm what the user has
been searching within the marketplace. Thanks Cal need more car
Boot Sales teach the young people skills in the art
of bartering. It's from Joel twenty eight to eleven. Surprise,

(01:26:49):
the Imbrella only lasted a year. Good evening, Judith, it's Marcus.
Welcome Hi.

Speaker 17 (01:26:57):
I'm just ringing out about you talking about scammers. My
daughter got scammed on my trade me account a couple
of years ago. It even got as far as going
to the dispute tribunal until the day before the hearing.
Pay the money back.

Speaker 2 (01:27:15):
Wow, tell me how it worked.

Speaker 4 (01:27:18):
Well.

Speaker 17 (01:27:19):
So, my daughter was at Uni, so she used my
trade me account by a seat of our headphone things
you know that blocks out the sound so she couldn't study.

Speaker 2 (01:27:33):
Noise noise canceling headphones yep.

Speaker 9 (01:27:36):
Yeah.

Speaker 17 (01:27:36):
So she paid the money and everything, and then the
lady said there was an issue. Was an issue with
them when she opened. Apparently they are a brain new Yeah. Anyways,
long story short, she stopped communication with us. So in
the end we took her to the dispute tribunal head

(01:27:59):
for hearing. All set up and then the night before
the hearing, my daughter was back home sing because it
was Seeing of the year or it was told no,
it was Seeing to the year, and because it went
on for quite a few months, and she looked in
her bank account the night before the hearing and we

(01:28:22):
discovered the money was sacking her account.

Speaker 3 (01:28:25):
Wow.

Speaker 2 (01:28:26):
So was it just was it was a second hand product?

Speaker 3 (01:28:31):
No?

Speaker 17 (01:28:31):
She listed them as bray News.

Speaker 2 (01:28:34):
But they were they were used.

Speaker 17 (01:28:36):
Well we never got them.

Speaker 2 (01:28:38):
Oh okay, so I thought you said you got them
but they were broken. But no, that's not the case,
is that right?

Speaker 17 (01:28:43):
No, she said there was an issue when she opened them.

Speaker 2 (01:28:47):
Oh I see when she when she opened them to
check that they were all right and then didn't send them.

Speaker 13 (01:28:53):
Yeah.

Speaker 5 (01:28:54):
Wow, Oh I was a drama.

Speaker 2 (01:28:57):
How much was it value? Like a couple of hundred dollars?

Speaker 17 (01:29:01):
I think it was two hundred.

Speaker 2 (01:29:02):
And something okay, And was trading a use for that?

Speaker 4 (01:29:08):
Oh?

Speaker 17 (01:29:10):
They gave me their lady's seatouse because you know it
was under my name. I had to get both celt
with like a three way go thing. But they gave
me her address and every thinks even though we're communicated,
but in the end we had to go to disputes.
But we're going to get to go to the hearing.
Christie Pate laughed right out to the end.

Speaker 2 (01:29:33):
How frustrating. Well, okay, thank you so much for that, Louise.
It's Marcus. Good evening.

Speaker 15 (01:29:39):
Oh even Marcus.

Speaker 16 (01:29:41):
Oh yeah, trade me in the marketplace. I do use marketplace,
but if I doize, I'm only keeping it local, so
I wouldn't do a bank Preceville. Okaythough I did once
once and that turned out fine, but I thought after that, no,
I'll just go and pick up the stuff and give

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them cash at the time, and it's never been an issue.
Trade me is great. At least they're there, you know.
If having an issue, they're there, and they were thoughting
it out. I did have an issue with one thing.
I bought a cat tree and the picture that they

(01:30:22):
showed was nothing like what arrived from China. Of course,
so I put this thing together and used it for
a few months and then gave it to a cat
rescue place and got another one. So you know, I
just couldn't be bothered mucking around and sending it all back.

Speaker 2 (01:30:43):
So so okay, so what was the problem. It just
wasn't what it was.

Speaker 16 (01:30:49):
No, it's supposed to have sizal all the way down
the bottom things, but it didn't.

Speaker 2 (01:30:59):
Why did you have no redress there on the cat tree?
Whatever that is?

Speaker 16 (01:31:03):
Well, I did, but I just couldn't be bother that
it was a big thing and I'd have to pass
it all up and send it back and I just
couldn't be bothered me. And it wasn't that expensive, but
I did put bad feedback on and.

Speaker 2 (01:31:20):
This was this was a marketplace, right, No trade make sense?
You understand, okay, yeah, okay.

Speaker 16 (01:31:26):
Yeah yeah, bank trendsfer I'll never do on marketplaces.

Speaker 2 (01:31:33):
With trade me if yeah, it's it's it's repackaging it
up and re sending it back if you're not happy
with it. I mean, you couldn't be bothered, could you,
because it's probably gonna cost half the price of the item.

Speaker 16 (01:31:43):
Yes, exactly exactly. I had. Yeah, I don't think i'd
send didn't thing that really, but I have complained.

Speaker 6 (01:31:51):
I got bought a.

Speaker 16 (01:31:54):
One those pilos you put around your neck and when
it's right, yeah, when I arrived it was supposed to
be it's supposed to be able to take the cover off,
and it was nothing like to take So I complained
to them and they sent me another one and I've
got to keep both of them.

Speaker 12 (01:32:13):
So it was okay.

Speaker 2 (01:32:14):
So that sounds like I would have been a commercial
group rubbickause I'm sure's quite a few people whose business it.

Speaker 16 (01:32:19):
Is, right, Yes, yes, they were in trade. Ten the
issues I've had it with people in trade. But most
of the time, I mean I sell a lot of
I sell all my art to trade me. Yes, but
lately lately that they're doing those upgrades and things aren't working,
and they've changed the courier thing instead of calculating it

(01:32:43):
for you, you have to guess, and it's just really annoying.
So I just hope they sought it out very soon.

Speaker 12 (01:32:53):
Looking annoying.

Speaker 2 (01:32:55):
Nice to hear from Marcus. Good luck with bringing back
car boot sales with some councils like alkally getting rid
of boot sales on the side of roadside and public
car parks. Mac always remember the talkback show we had
a number of years back on the Carfeirs. What an
amazing nights talk back that was, because if you don't know,

(01:33:20):
once upon a time before the mall's were open all
weekend and Yadi yadia, one of the greatest things you
could ever do was go to a car fare and
they were off the hook, unbelievably big and popular. I've

(01:33:46):
spoken to the guy that organized someone on the show,
and it was big stuff, big stuff, big stuff. And
all the car parks they weren't used in the weekend.
I think the big one was out Westfield at Monaco
and just cars people getting their first thing in the morning.
Cars dealers wide boys. It was just it's an amazing

(01:34:08):
but in fact somebody has to write a book on it.
It's fascinating. It was a big gead Ellslie as well.
This is an Auckland. They're right around the country. But
yeah they've gone it's all gone online now trade me,
so the cars are bought and sold in marketplace. But
that's what we have to talk about, trade me versus marketplace.
But mainly why trade me? There are so few listings

(01:34:30):
for the things I buy and I'm not buying new
stuff and I'm not buying vehicles. But the stuff I
buy is none of it's just it's just totally dried up,
either that or off which already bought them all. That's
the other thing I'm worried about. Or they're deliberately excluding

(01:34:51):
me because just like the tap was turned off so
suddenly that's the thing that surprised me. It was so sudden,
And talk to people. See a lot of the traffic's
gone towards marketplace. But yeah, I don't like ma place,
I think less. I like it less. From listening tonight
with people saying that you can't really do anything with

(01:35:15):
a phone transfer because you won't get it, and no
one wants the hassle of having something you're not going
to get. Most of buying online is the excitement of
the stuff arriving, unpecking it. Oh has it arrived? The
knock off the carrier, I know what that'll be. Knock knock,
knock at Oh. Well, sometimes you've forgot you've ordered it.

(01:35:42):
Sometimes it takes a long time to arrive. Good evening, Harley,
it's Marcus. Welcome.

Speaker 12 (01:35:50):
How are you Marcus?

Speaker 2 (01:35:51):
Good? Thank you, Halley.

Speaker 12 (01:35:53):
Yeah, you're just talking about carby itself.

Speaker 2 (01:35:57):
Yep.

Speaker 12 (01:35:58):
And just said on the radio the other day that
they have run up in Helen till every second Sunday
of the month.

Speaker 2 (01:36:06):
Okay, so the council must be too doing too much
to get rid of them.

Speaker 12 (01:36:11):
Well yeah, because I was in then, I think it
might have come over as it'd be. But they're advertising
carboat sell. I think they just had one last Sunday,
but I think it's every second Sunday of the month,
or I could be wrong, could be the first Sunday

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of the month. But yeah, yeah, just someone's interested in.

Speaker 2 (01:36:36):
A carboat sale. You just put things in the booty
of Calimonia as your van. I suppose, isn't it.

Speaker 12 (01:36:41):
Yeah, I think so.

Speaker 3 (01:36:43):
Yeah.

Speaker 12 (01:36:44):
I remember years ago the old free markets and stuff
like that. It was a bit of fun too, especially
when the kids were younger and stuff and us getting
cooked there. You know, there wasn't too many rules and
regulations in those days. You know, people were selling steaks
and onion sammis and stuff like that.

Speaker 3 (01:37:02):
To do that.

Speaker 4 (01:37:03):
Today you need this and that.

Speaker 12 (01:37:04):
And a license for this in the life from it.
But they were good days and everybody seemed to be
enjoying themselves.

Speaker 4 (01:37:12):
Oh.

Speaker 2 (01:37:13):
People paid it, people loved it. People. I mean, there
wasn't much to do in those days either, was there.
I mean, nothing to do in the week. You got
to church and go to a flea market or a
car boot sale. That was pretty much it. We'll go
to the races.

Speaker 12 (01:37:24):
People go out there and all enjoyed it. I think
it paid about three or four dollars for your site,
you know.

Speaker 3 (01:37:31):
Which was expected.

Speaker 12 (01:37:34):
But no, pretty good, all right then, Marcas, thanks very
much for having me.

Speaker 2 (01:37:39):
Let you go back to Beard Harley. Thank you. Get
in touch. Marcus till twelve or eight hundred and eighty
ten eighty car boot sales Ganetia's Marcus welcome.

Speaker 15 (01:37:50):
Oh hi Marcus, good evening, how are you doing good?

Speaker 2 (01:37:53):
Thank you.

Speaker 15 (01:37:55):
I just wanted to give I just wanted to share
my experience that our Facebook market please, Miss, Like, if
I want to buy something like we sit in ears,
like some crookeries or some utensils, so then I prefer
Facebook marketplace. But beyond that, I believe that Trademik is
a New Zealand based company, and as a New Zealand

(01:38:18):
I need to encourage you know.

Speaker 2 (01:38:21):
The Yeah, sure, sure, because I think Facebook, I think News,
I think and I don't know if you know this,
but I'm pretty sure trade Me got sold to an
Australian company called Fairfax about fifteen years ago, so I
think although it's not a New Zealand company, I think
it's owned by an Australian company.

Speaker 15 (01:38:42):
But still it's alleged as compared to Facebook marketplace. Yeah,
so they like yeah, because we don't know some people,
they can just randomly or create a profile and they're
just doing some dodgy deals on the Facebook marketplace.

Speaker 2 (01:38:57):
So and it seems like Facebook. It seems like Facebook
aren't tightening up on that at all.

Speaker 15 (01:39:03):
But still Miss, I can see miss like if I
want to buy something and people they just don't have
a photo, they don't have any history, and you know,
so that is actually is like alert, alarmed or not
to deal with this kind of people. But they trade me,
I can say, yes, it's very legit, or something goes wrong,
so I can just contact. It's very easy to get

(01:39:24):
in touch, find out who's the seller or who's the buyer.
But Facebook Marketplace is sometimes is like I'm just like
very curious, and especially they're not a news and base,
so I don't actually is about worried about too much
into Facebook.

Speaker 2 (01:39:42):
Kish nice to hear from you. By the way, too,
that Fairfax was the Australian media company. They have sold
trade Me to the British private equity company Apex Partners
for two dollars fifty eight or two point five billions
sorry in twenty nineteen, so what have you bought for
a billion? Then with itself for two point eight and
of course too, I think the whole key to trade

(01:40:04):
me was it because eBay never really came to New Zealand.
I think everyone else eBay is the number one players.
That's the way it's happened. I think that's the way
it's rolled out, Marcus. I'm surprised how ready people reveal
private information exchanged for the promise of a small reward
loyalty card to the biggest scam. I wonder also if

(01:40:24):
they protect your info, Marcus. How convenience the steamer are
downsizing staff so close to Christmas and attempt to soften
the blow by opening offering voluntary redundancies. Wasn't there some
sort of agreement when it was sold that staff would
be retained or is there a time limit on handshake promises?

(01:40:48):
I guess his surprise. There still manufacturing in New Zealand,
I guess, And maybe people just have enough SYSTEMA. I
can't believe they never invented something that meant the lid
was attached to the bottom. Most of us are given
up because the side clips come off and you lose
the lids, Marcus. Before trade me there was the early

(01:41:14):
rise every Thursday at four am to get to any
petrol station to get the trade in exchange, to read
what's in the free page. That was great, the trade
and exchange people eating what was on the free page.
It was pretty unbelievable that so great rate the trade
exchange good evening, Max, It's Marcus. Welcome.

Speaker 5 (01:41:39):
Oh, okday Marcus. You look. I've both done a bit
of buying and selling on both Facebook Marketplace and trade me,
and few things I've found with both of those and frustrations. Yeah,

(01:42:00):
I think I think going to first of all, Trade me.
I do like trade me because there's you know, the
rating system and that on it and if somebody does
a bit of a nasty deal on you or something that.
I think Travy do a great job with disputes, yes,
which I've had one or two with and they've been

(01:42:23):
very helpful, although I was a bit disappointed when they
shut down their phone line. You've got to do it
through the chat thing, you know, which is yeah, but
that still works. But I think they're very good on
the dispute area, and you know, they really cover their
bases from the legal point of view. But Facebook Marketplace
you don't have it at all. The other thing that

(01:42:46):
Trade me is that I used to I still do.
If you go on the community page, it'll tell you
how many how many people are actually online and I
I used to find that the Sunday night was the
biggest night when the most people were online at one
stage it was like eighty or something like that, but

(01:43:08):
lately it's been very very low.

Speaker 2 (01:43:11):
Oh, that's quite interesting that there's actually you can actually
get numbers like that. Okay, how low is it getting.

Speaker 5 (01:43:18):
Oh, it can be down as low as thirty twenty.

Speaker 3 (01:43:22):
Thousand, so.

Speaker 5 (01:43:24):
It's less than a half Yeah, and that would be
about in the last two years. It's dropped like that.
And the thing is, Marcus, is that when you look
at it also tells you how many listings will. Quite
often there's five million listings. So when you multify five
million listings by thirty thousand people, and actually the thirty thousand,

(01:43:47):
you can probably divide that by fifty percent because probably
fifty percent would be people who would be selling, who
are having a little peek to see they're sold, and
you think that they're logging in. So the amount of traffic.
I think this is where trade near is really struggling,
is to get traffic. And I don't know what the

(01:44:09):
answer for that is. Maybe they need to advertise, but
I think their lack of traffic is just the problem.
The other thing I do find with trade me is
that if you're selling sort of memorabilia, and I think
trade me appeals to us older people, whereas Facebook marketplaces
are real for the younger people that the young guys.

(01:44:32):
They you know, the young people tend to love Facebook
Marketplace because they're more tech savvy. And I think there's
a real age thing there where trade me. You know,
you talk to a lot of younger people are and
put on Facebook Marketplace, you know. But the frustration I
found with Facebook Marketplace is that you put stuff up

(01:44:54):
and you get all these ah, you get people I
think they're lonely or something, and they start sending you
Oh what size is that?

Speaker 3 (01:45:02):
Oh how does that go?

Speaker 5 (01:45:04):
How many are there? What's the brand name?

Speaker 8 (01:45:06):
All these ridiculous chustic you know, they ask you someone
the most shup I have heard this, and it goes.

Speaker 5 (01:45:17):
On and on and on, and then they just disappear.
And then you get other people. I'll be round at
one o'clock, you know, And so you sit there because
you think, oh, that's good, I'm going to sell it
and you're going to be here at one o'clock and
then oh, you know, my car's broken down overuld flat
tire and that, you know, or Auntie's turned up, and
then they never turn up. They never ever show up,

(01:45:38):
you know, and you get a lot of that. Quite
often you will see on Facebook Marketplace people put on
there no muck arounds please, Yeah, because people muck.

Speaker 6 (01:45:51):
You around, you know.

Speaker 5 (01:45:53):
So it's kind of like a double edged sword. You know,
you've got trade me, which is not really getting the traffic.
I hope or maybe somebody from Trade's listening and they
can take you know, I should be kind of like, man.

Speaker 2 (01:46:07):
But I agree with what you're saying there, because if
people aren't selling stuff, then people won't be listening. And
that's why I think that my product category has fallen
through the floor because no one's putting stuff on there
because it's not selling because it'skno getting the eyeballs on it.

Speaker 5 (01:46:21):
That that would be right because sometimes, like if I'm
listening stuff, I like to take good photos and do
a really good listening and there's actually a little bit
time consuming.

Speaker 20 (01:46:33):
And then you come.

Speaker 5 (01:46:33):
Back next week and you've only had three views and
you think, you know.

Speaker 2 (01:46:38):
So you are your views right down for what you're selling? Absolutely,
have you got um, have you got numbers that you
can tell me about that?

Speaker 5 (01:46:48):
Probably three three views and a week per an item
or four?

Speaker 2 (01:46:53):
And how many how many has it been?

Speaker 5 (01:46:57):
Oh, you know previous sake you go a bit two
years ago, you'd be getting thy views. Okay, But trade
me have also started a new thing on their products page.
They've started a thing where you can advertise, but your
pay per click. It's kind of based on the Google model.

(01:47:19):
And I'm not too sure about this either. I mean,
it might work for them, but I'm I mean, if
they're not getting the traffic.

Speaker 2 (01:47:28):
That sounds that they need some newdisruptive technology. Don't they
to get people back there because it sounds like it's
dying on the vine.

Speaker 5 (01:47:34):
Oh I think, Marcus, I think that you should take
over being the manager and you'd get it Cohen, when
you but one of all of us listeners are out
here and we're.

Speaker 8 (01:47:44):
All, what are you trying?

Speaker 5 (01:47:46):
What do you wanted to buy?

Speaker 4 (01:47:47):
Marc?

Speaker 5 (01:47:48):
Just because I might have a few of those hanging around, I.

Speaker 2 (01:47:54):
Don't want to be judged by what I'm buying, and
I don't want also to flood the market and everywhere
else start buying them as well. So it's a pretty no,
it's not not model trains. Hey, hey tell me something though,
Are you, Marcus friendly trying to change the subject. Are
you buying stuff or selling stuff on marketplace and using

(01:48:15):
phone and using bank transfer or is it a no
no for you as well?

Speaker 5 (01:48:20):
No, I tend to use their on trading.

Speaker 2 (01:48:23):
Are using market on market on marketplace?

Speaker 3 (01:48:27):
No?

Speaker 5 (01:48:27):
If if I do marketplace, I wait until they come
to the door, and it's going to be cash. I
you know, generally, I know people who in one one
in particular, who brought some chihara or something or other
and in another town and paid for it with this
thing and and the thing never turned up. I would

(01:48:48):
never recommend anybody to pay for anything unless the item
and you know it's it's really it's a cash st
or really because people can just make a false profile
and then they they advertise, you know, or they've got
to goat for sale or will not much animals or
nothing you meant to but you know they've got a

(01:49:09):
VARs or whatever it is for sale and you know
I've seen it to you, you know, so you're seeing
your hundred bucks away and look the VARs never turns up.

Speaker 20 (01:49:19):
There's a lot of that goes on.

Speaker 2 (01:49:20):
And you've got you've got there's no redress that is there.

Speaker 5 (01:49:23):
No, there's no redress. Whereas we've trade me there definitely is.
I mean you could somebody could end In fact, people
have ended up in court if the items are not
received in the in the condition that that they've described.
Plus they get really bad feedback. So that's where trade
me is a really great advantage. So it's kind of like, oh,

(01:49:47):
you know, I think a lot of people now they're
just they're just given stuff away, you know. I see
a lot of it around here. I'm in the Cardy
area and people just put the most amazing stuff out
on the footpaths, you know, out on the broom burn
and other people come along and pick it all up,

(01:50:08):
and then they take it home and then they get
too much and then a.

Speaker 2 (01:50:17):
Lovely to talk to you, Max, thanks though very much
that twenty past leave and keep your I've enjoyed that.
That's a great call. He's got the hang of it.
Get in touch by name is Marcus, Welcome oh eight
hundred and eighty Dady in nineteen nine to text evening Marcus,
great topic tonight. I've had many positive experiences with Facebook marketplace.
I love twenty minute Oulivan, the cargo be Winton and

(01:50:39):
only buy from sellers in ver Cargolars after a space
spiced wreck and found a handmade one with a paper
towel holder attached. Fifty dollars. Was fantastic and the best
part was it was from a father and son who
made us a week in project. It felt so good
to support them. Thanks Tracy. There is some uncomfortable footage
on the Internet of Joe Biden walking along the beach.

(01:51:03):
He's really he's not. We can hardly walk, to be fair,
and he tries to do that job to try and
disguise his walking, but it's not good anyway. Marcus, I've
never used marketplace and haven't used my tradee cap for
three years. I list stuff on pay it Forward, It's
a Facebook page list and get free products. Jenny Marcus

(01:51:29):
trade we just got too greedy. Seven point nine percent
commission across the border. If I said a five thousand
items of three nine to five bucks free marketing marketplace
costs nothing. Also, the rise of specific hobby based bicell
groups on Facebook sees a lot of items selling to
people within your particular hobby. Wrote to Dave Noline, Marcus, welcome, Hi.

Speaker 22 (01:51:50):
You know I would just agree with the trade me.
I actually used to sell quite a bit of stuff
on trade me and buy it. But when they went
to the seven percent, I thought, no, not not. I
just felt they were just being a bit greedy. But
I mean I've sold pieces of material sort a huge
roll of material that I bought. I was going to
make a suit and stuff out of it in the

(01:52:12):
seventies and I sold it to a there was a
like a repertory society in Dneda and they were just
wrapped with it with velvet, a line line and everything,
and and another lot of material. I saw the lady
was that wrapped with it. She steent me photos of
what she had made and ye and stuff. Yeah, so

(01:52:34):
I mean it there was a real pace for it.
But I mean that was quite a wee while ago.
But as far as marketplace is concerned, my grandson would go, oh, Grandma,
you know I need such and such and I'll go
have a lock on theft there's anything on Facebook, and
so he goes on on it on my phone. Oh no,

(01:52:55):
they've got something in there. So you know, I've bought shoes.
We even bought a push bike in Queenstown. People were
traveling going overseas and we went and looked at it
and his father put the money in the bank and
then we took it, so, you know. And the most
recent thing was we as TV got damage that he

(01:53:18):
pays his games on, so well have we look and
see if you can find something, And there wasn't anything
for a couple of days and then this TV come
on and it was the right size, so we just
the lady was moving to christ Church and she just
wanted to get rid of it. So it is actually
quite he's trying to sell some shoes, but he's wanting
too much for it.

Speaker 15 (01:53:38):
You've got it.

Speaker 22 (01:53:38):
Actually it's quite cheap.

Speaker 2 (01:53:40):
You know.

Speaker 22 (01:53:41):
You've got to be realistic with marketplace.

Speaker 2 (01:53:44):
Could you tell me, do you remember, Nolan, how much
the commission used to be on trade me before it
went up?

Speaker 22 (01:53:51):
Well, it was about five percent and it had.

Speaker 2 (01:53:54):
Been five percent since the beginning, had it?

Speaker 22 (01:53:57):
Yeah, it had been and then I mean it was
quite a few years ago it changed to seven. I mean,
we bought a car and seeing an Auckland for a
daughter when she finished Unich where she was studied in
Dunedin and she was going to be going to living
in Hamilton. So we found this this car and we're

(01:54:18):
all we're we're like we never saw it. People were
moving overseas, but there were people aren't asking questions, and
the people some people actually wanted to look at it,
and we could see that we were bidding, you know,
because the trade me it was the whole bidding thing.
And so we just kept going. And yet we took

(01:54:39):
her up and picked it up, and well.

Speaker 12 (01:54:42):
She just loved it.

Speaker 22 (01:54:43):
Okay, okay, so you can sort of. But I mean
that sort of thing is the way it used to be,
whereas now I suppose it's just people aren't really either.
I think that you're right, people aren't selling stuff the
same we I go around the second hand shops. Now
I think that there's a great selection of stuff at

(01:55:05):
the second hand shops.

Speaker 2 (01:55:07):
I disagree, Arleen. Thank you so much for you cal Marcus.
Great show. Re eBay and trade me. I find they
have increased their fees and delivery fees are un realistic.
Facebook Marketplace is great. I wouldn't pay by bank transfer.
It's always case that way's legit. Devo or devo eBay
has everything I want, just abating. Now the t SHIRW
want is fifty but then seventy three shipping plus ten

(01:55:27):
dollars to eBay suddenly such an expensive item. I'm terrified
of Facebook shipping only. Hi Paul, Marcus, good.

Speaker 15 (01:55:34):
Evening, Marcus.

Speaker 3 (01:55:37):
Yeah, trade me. You can be verified on trade me
for re adres. Yes. So yeah, gone buy a car
or car off you know, and it's going to be
a legit vehicle most of the time. No voice are
on Facebook, free marketplace. I organized my mate go those
house tell up on this place. It could be a

(01:55:59):
stolen car, stole on TV. There's no comeback on you
don't know. We're all over anything.

Speaker 2 (01:56:05):
I think for I think for some people that would
be an advantage if they could buy a chip stolen stuff,
would it not?

Speaker 3 (01:56:13):
Well, it would be for some, but not for me,
thank you very much. You know, I just don't trust
but people.

Speaker 2 (01:56:21):
But people seem to be I mean, it does seem
to be affecting trade me. Doesn't people seem to be
buying and selling a lot of stuff on it?

Speaker 3 (01:56:27):
Well they do, But I honestly I just wouldn't buy
off here. I just wouldn't trust the stuff on there.
Yeah no, that's just a warning up put it. I
wouldn't buy a car or a boat. Maybe maybe you're
buying an eye or something. It's a bit different, but
a big ticket ice and no way in the world.

Speaker 2 (01:56:44):
Hey, with a big ticket item like a car, is
that still the same commission of seven on trade me?

Speaker 3 (01:56:52):
I honestly don't know.

Speaker 2 (01:56:54):
I don't know.

Speaker 3 (01:56:54):
Last car. That's fast time I sold a car and
trade me he was free listening days there was no commission.

Speaker 2 (01:57:01):
Yeah, we sold a car on trade. We excer had
to drive to Deneedan to pick the guy up and
take him to then the catch the bus. It was
quite a good experience.

Speaker 3 (01:57:09):
You are just you're just going to watch the dice.
They're pretty selling and you know you didn't worry Well's
and there's no commitionion on it, so you just take
a bans I sort of dies.

Speaker 2 (01:57:20):
I wish I'll get my category in there. Yeah, we
selled a car on trade, then we bought it back.
Then we seld it again. We'll probably buy it back again.
Is a tremendous car? Hi King?

Speaker 4 (01:57:31):
Oh Hi Marcus. Yeah, just about trade me and let's
just say considerably large purchases like motor cars. I bought
a car. I'm based in Christchurch. I bought a car recently.
The car was located in Oakland, two year old car.
We're talking a considerable amount of money, and of course

(01:57:51):
the usual on trade me you know, pay by cash
or credit transfer, direct transfer. So long story short. Between
the texting and the emails and the communications I had
with the seller, seller insisted I pay cash and cash only.
So I thought a large amount of money. But here
we go, a bit suspicious, did all my due diligence.

(01:58:14):
Everything was fine, that people checked out, lovely, wonderful people,
all legit. Went and had a conversation with my bank
a week before our arrange to travel up to walk then,
so I had to obviously organize slights and ferries down
they picked and etcetera to get back to christ Church.
So we're talking a large sum of money, a large
amount of cash to be carrying with me, and it

(01:58:35):
was a bit suspect, but you know, I'll checked out
in the inn. But it's a lot of money again
to be carrying, to be buying a two year old car.
And so I got there and handed over to cash.
They met me at the airport again, great people met
me at the airport and I'm thinking, how are we
going to do this? How are we going to count
to cash?

Speaker 3 (01:58:52):
Et cetera.

Speaker 4 (01:58:53):
So cash was counted. I withdrawn it from my bank
in christ Church and it was all neatly packaged up
and everything. So I'm flying up on a cheap one
way seat and I've got this lot of cash in
my pocket to hand over the paper cash. Anyway, it transpired.
A lot of deals are going through now where people

(01:59:15):
will do the bank transfer in front of the buyer
purchaser seller. They'll confirm pay and loan behold. Within and hour,
they'll cancel the transaction and buy the buye to your goods.

Speaker 2 (01:59:29):
Okay.

Speaker 4 (01:59:31):
So I had a lot of money on me that
day and obviously a bit of concern, but I was
when it was explained to me, I totally totally understood
the reasons why that works.

Speaker 2 (01:59:42):
Again, if you pay for the bank transfer.

Speaker 4 (01:59:45):
Yeah, so pay the bank transfer since screen trust to
would you like I'm in front of you, and I'll
give an example. I'm in front of you, Marcus, can
have your bank details? Please you give me bank details.
You see me entering your bank details onto my cell
phone or whatever. You see me in there. I see
THEMNK going through.

Speaker 2 (02:00:04):
And then you cancel and then it.

Speaker 4 (02:00:05):
S and this is payment successful. As soon as I
behind your back, I'll ring up the bank and say
cancel that rats transaction and good.

Speaker 2 (02:00:14):
Job, understand.

Speaker 3 (02:00:17):
Ridiculous.

Speaker 2 (02:00:17):
Is it a thick stack of money?

Speaker 4 (02:00:21):
Well for amount the money, who is considerably sin actually,
But I never carried out about the cash, never in
my life. But it was it was quite sick.

Speaker 8 (02:00:30):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (02:00:31):
And then did they say that's why they'd made sure
it was a cash thing because I didn't want is it? Well,
because surely if you're going all that way exactly, you're
not gonna Yeah, I can't work out. I think that
was a bit unnecessary of them to do that.

Speaker 4 (02:00:43):
I think it was, But I believe in hid thinking
that I was returning, you know, the car to christ Church.
Of course, once I left them at Auckland Airport, I
was gone. They would never see the car again, I
suppose had I been in the North Island and somewhere
closer to home. Or it was a little bit unnecessary.
But apparently two of their friends had been stung very

(02:01:04):
recently from similar scames.

Speaker 2 (02:01:05):
Because annix two thousand dollars buying a car in Auckland,
isn't it? Because its funnily enough? And bluff and bluff
a lot of people fly to christ Church to buy cars.

Speaker 4 (02:01:16):
I saved five thousand dollars on the same model. Yeah,
including you know, I mean I had a lovely drive
back by the way.

Speaker 12 (02:01:23):
It took me three days.

Speaker 4 (02:01:24):
To get home, which was great in a new car.

Speaker 12 (02:01:26):
But yeah, so.

Speaker 2 (02:01:29):
Where did where was it? Did they go to the
car or where did you set to do it? They
got to McDonald's or were at the airport's the place we.

Speaker 4 (02:01:35):
Just left the airport, went to a local countdown, headed
up towards well just not not so far near. Put
put into a private public car park, so to speak. Yeah,
we found somewhere discreet to count this.

Speaker 2 (02:01:51):
Did they count at all?

Speaker 4 (02:01:53):
Absolutely? And it was funny because she she reassured me
it was all there.

Speaker 2 (02:02:00):
Wow, And then then she came back to it in
the hand and in the handshake.

Speaker 4 (02:02:07):
Yeah, yeah, I got to I got I did my
side to think that as well. I had my receipt
and I made sure I got a signature and my
receipt that they received the money for the make, model, registration,
et cetera of the vehicles. So we were ticking all
the boxes.

Speaker 2 (02:02:23):
But did they you I do understand it? Did they
text you subsequently and say how's it going, because I
think that's always a good thing to do.

Speaker 4 (02:02:35):
I got a good car, or of the deal.

Speaker 2 (02:02:37):
Okay, it taxs you on the way down, and say
how's your trip or anything like that.

Speaker 4 (02:02:40):
I don't think so, no, And I can't remember if
they did, I don't remember, so I probably would have
remembered if the head, yeah, they just want a shot.
I wanted done. Tho, thank you very much. I've got
a good deal. You got your money and have a
nice life, brilliant.

Speaker 2 (02:02:54):
Well that's a good story. Yes, it was one hundred
It's almost like we need another denomination of notes, don't
we It was one hundred dollar notes. It's the biggest desire.

Speaker 4 (02:03:02):
It was one hundred dollar notes. Yeah, we do almost
need another dinner. Well again, that's the other thing, you know,
I often hear the conversation you have about a cash
list society. Don't get me started, don't get me sad.
But you see all these you know, all the all
the security measures that are in place these days for

(02:03:23):
internet banking and banking and transferring. But of course, in hindsight,
you know, I suppose how to be really closer, I
could have done that transfer the night before, I could
have done it the day before. It's all based on trust,
So it brings back to the I suppose my argument
and discussion would be how much do we trust the

(02:03:43):
people that we are buying and selling from.

Speaker 2 (02:03:45):
Yeah, I'm excited that you've got the other thing. That's
quite a good story. And the how was I inter
Islander that that didn't sink or go off into autopilot?
I'd be consumed about it these days.

Speaker 4 (02:03:57):
Well, it wasn't the conduct, but it was fantastic.

Speaker 3 (02:03:59):
I loved it.

Speaker 4 (02:04:01):
I absolutely loved it. I was. I mean, I was,
you know, I was buzzing and driving back of a
new car, and it was five thousand dollars cheaper when
I put in my accommodation in my ferry and my flight,
it was still a lot cheaper than bang it in.

Speaker 2 (02:04:17):
Did you spend some time on Oakland? Did you get
out there as soon as you could? Did you ever
have a look around?

Speaker 4 (02:04:21):
I got the hell out of Oakland as soon as
I could.

Speaker 8 (02:04:25):
Would Yeah, well I got to Hamilton.

Speaker 4 (02:04:29):
I had because I previous the car. It's a Susuki
Jimney gy. Basically I'm going putting it in my motor home,
but I had it booked into a place in Hamilton
to have it fitted with an a frame. So it
was when I got there was another savings. And then
of course I pulled into Hamilton there were.

Speaker 2 (02:04:44):
Sixteen I'll be running sixteen grande.

Speaker 4 (02:04:50):
No, it's not more than that.

Speaker 2 (02:04:52):
Okay, what you ought to you? Hell do you understated? Sorry?

Speaker 4 (02:04:55):
Yeah, it's almost double time. Yes. I had the appointment
in Hamilton to have some work done to the car
bringing homes. It's spaculate. Then I left Hamilton. I spent
the first night in Top Hawk. Could have spent a
week in and around that area. That was absolutely beautiful.
Loved it, absolutely loved it. Lovely drive. Then I mean
I took in the sites while I was up there

(02:05:15):
and went out to Hooker Falls. I drove down next night,
then in Wellington and then lo and behold, I'm back
on Terra Firma and there was none stop. Picked into
christ Church all the way.

Speaker 2 (02:05:30):
Sounds like a fantastic expedition.

Speaker 4 (02:05:33):
It was great and it was well worth it.

Speaker 2 (02:05:35):
The wonder of the caurs are much cheaper in Auckland.

Speaker 4 (02:05:39):
Well, I'm going to stick my neck out because of
the Suzuki and because I live in christ Church in Canterbury,
Hollands have just cornered the market basically, and the wonderful
salesman in there told me I wouldn't get what I
was after. Yeah, well I did, but I didn't get
it in the South Island.

Speaker 2 (02:05:53):
Yeah okay, good cool kin. I appreciate that. Thank you
very much. That that's it for me. People, shape we'll
see tomorrow on tomorrow, so yeah, look at you whatever
that is.

Speaker 1 (02:06:03):
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