A drive that feels long (28 August 2024)

With news that the Tui Brewery in Mangatainoka is now basically defunct, Marcus talks about one of NZ's most iconic beer brands.

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Speaker 1 (00:07):
You're listening to the Marcus Lush Nights podcast from News Talks.

Speaker 2 (00:11):
A't be.

Speaker 3 (00:13):
Last Wednesday of winter. Boy, that's good news. I'll tell
you why I looked up daylight savings? Is that keen
for it to start? It's a month away? Can't we
started earlier? Just feel I need those long evenings anyway,
That's just me. I don't want to have a weather
moon or a with a whip, but man, I've got
a hunger for the summer or even even the spring.

(00:36):
Godness for four more weeks for daylight saving seems a
long time. Always sort of every year. I thought, gee,
that's early this time. I think it seems late. Don't
know what that's about. Welcome to the show. Oh eight
hundred and eighty thirty here till midnight tonight. I hope
it's good with you. If you've got some discussion or
some topic one discussed and I am here for that,

(00:58):
feel free to get in touch. Oh eight hundred and
eighty thirty and nine two nine to the text, love
to hear from you. Anything goes with the chat about
hobbiton last night, It's bad. I've never feel bad. I've
never been there now gosh, people loved it. It's a
lot about that today anyway. By the way, there was

(01:20):
a thief in Rome robbed a house and found a
book called about Homer's Iliad from the point of view
of the God, so engrossed that he just stayed there
reading the book and ended up getting caught. Yeah. Pretty interesting,

(01:45):
isn't it. That's the story. There's probably more to it.
Once inside, he became distranded by a book on a
bedside tape and halted the burglary so he could read.
The seventy one year old homeowner woke up in front
of the man who was sitting down on bed engrossed
in the pages, tried to escape, arrested shortly afterwards. The

(02:06):
book Gilly Day, as say Laddie pinitifol, examined time as
a lead from the point of view of the gods.
The author it's still a book with an author around,
told the newspaper, I'd like to collect connect with the
alleged thief, so give them a copy of the book.
Nice story. Don't know if you want to talk to

(02:27):
me about the book that's got your most engrossed. Well,
I imagine most bank robbers wouldn't start reading once they
went on a job, would they? I don't know. You
never create a lot of these stories about people robbing
houses and stuff like that. You don't really know what
state of mind there, and do you You sometimes one
of their rolling drunk and they don't really know where

(02:48):
they are anyway, I's anything go tonight. The number is
eight hundred and eighty ten eighty ninety nine to de tict.
You might be watching the NPC on the TV. I'd
be curious to know how the numbers have been at
the NPC, because it wasn't looking too But I wonder
how many people have been in there anyway, By the way,
to one, thy four hundred and twenty two days until

(03:11):
New's in on solar eclips and sixty nine days until
the US election. And this Saturday is well, sorry, this
Sunday is Father's Day. I can't tell you. Weatherwise too,
northwest gales and heavy rain for many areas late today
and on Thursday, so the bad rain is settling in.

(03:33):
It's also the anniversary of nineteen ninety two Canterbury's Big Snow.
I don't remember that. If anyone remembers Canterbury's Big Snow,
I don't quite know what that was about. But basically,
anything goes tonight. Oh eight hundred and eighty ten eighty
and nine two nine two detects. You've got something you
want to talk about, I am here for you. There
might be some other discussions we've discussed the others days
that you want to add to. There's something else you

(03:55):
might want to kind of a pine about. Be good
to hear from you with that tonight too, A bit
of a clean slate to be really honest tonight. Don't
know what's going to get you going tonight, but I'm
sure it'll be something. The time midnight rolls around, will
be onto something I wouldn't doubt. So get in touch
you on and start the whole ball rolling. Oh eight
hundred and eighty ten eighty nine to nine two de text.

(04:18):
If you do want to come through, so pretty much
anything goes, so yeah, let's be hearing from you. No
topic not suitable, really, I wouldn't think not on a Wednesday.
It's fairly forgiving. But oh eight hundred eighty ten eighty
and nine to nine two de text. If there's breaking

(04:38):
news that happens out the next four hours, I'll tell
you what that is, by the way, is anyone still
into the horoscopes and any paper still publish them. It's
quite a big It was quite a big part of
people's lives telling what their horoscopes were. They just disappeared.
There was that book Linda Goodman's Son Signs that people

(05:01):
were writing to you. Don't hear it talked about now
Neil ats Marcus welcome good Ee.

Speaker 4 (05:08):
I don't know if you remember the snow in Kingsbury
of ninety ninety two, but there was a lot of
fossaw on the trees, and it was quite an unusual, heavy,
heavy lot of snow of the roads and there was
a bit of a problem. I think they brought in
the snowplowl or something like that.

Speaker 3 (05:23):
Were you there kneel for it? Ninety two?

Speaker 4 (05:25):
I was recorded, It was all over the news on TV.

Speaker 3 (05:29):
It's long. It's a long time ago. How long ago
was it? Thirty two years ago?

Speaker 4 (05:34):
Yeah. As far as what you just mentioned horoscope, I
still very much PLoP my course by the might wake
out the horoscope for my friends and family and then
look at my own and make my decisions based on that.
Quite often they say it's poo pooh because of its
relationship with that off at the World War two. But

(05:55):
there's nothing wrong with.

Speaker 3 (05:56):
It, you know, let's just pack the hitless stuff because
it's not a good thing to go down the line off.
But where do you get them from?

Speaker 4 (06:03):
Well, we used to just get in the local paper
of it.

Speaker 3 (06:06):
But now these days, Neil, so you getting are you
getting them in your papers today?

Speaker 5 (06:11):
Yeah?

Speaker 4 (06:12):
The local the local carrier is still curious one.

Speaker 3 (06:15):
What is it?

Speaker 6 (06:15):
What is it?

Speaker 4 (06:16):
Something else?

Speaker 3 (06:18):
What's the paper?

Speaker 4 (06:20):
It's just called the courier. Just run so clear in napier.

Speaker 3 (06:23):
Have you got it there with you?

Speaker 4 (06:26):
And yeah, the room?

Speaker 3 (06:27):
You will tell me I'm cancer? Tell me what my
star sign is for today? My horoscope.

Speaker 4 (06:35):
Yourself today? You were born today? You were born today?

Speaker 3 (06:41):
No, m a cancer? Tell me what Cansas is? It's
got you got the stars?

Speaker 4 (06:44):
We all know cancers, ury, home loving and balancing?

Speaker 3 (06:49):
What's but what's my horoscope for today?

Speaker 4 (06:54):
Probably be something?

Speaker 3 (06:55):
Get the pap you'll.

Speaker 7 (06:56):
Get the paper.

Speaker 3 (06:59):
Reluctant. I love it when they're walking around their house
and not a horder? Is he good? I don't know
any plate papers still did them?

Speaker 6 (07:18):
Gosh?

Speaker 3 (07:18):
Twenty one American to diagnose with sloth fever originated in
sloth spread by mosquito. You wouldn't want that, would you.
I won't be into work today, Jason, I've got sloth fever.
Jee's game. An interesting show, isn't it. This is the start.

(07:39):
If really mentioned Hitler telling what he has to do
with horoscopes, I'll google that. There's normally people stay stuff
like that's normally true. There's normally some Oh yeah, he

(08:01):
did devil and in fact, a lot of his decisions
were based on astrology. There you go, Neil, it'd be
funny if you just left. I think of that guy there.
I was going to keep walking like I've got my coffee. Ah,

(08:30):
I hear.

Speaker 4 (08:30):
That just means to turn over the all the puzzle pages.
At the back. It says that a couple of your
friends might be on the fly side at the moment,
and to go negotiate with caution, and as far as
the money avenue of things, be more conservative, for it's
you've been overspending. I don't know if that rings well.

Speaker 3 (08:53):
Well, we just read it from the beginning. What kansas is.

Speaker 4 (08:58):
That a couple of your associates might be fly and
negotiate emotionally with caution. And as far as on ancial
side of things goes, that's a bottom line. This says
to be more conservative because you have been overspending for
a week while at certain period that.

Speaker 3 (09:19):
See, how did they know? They certainly know was that
they're involved with Star signs.

Speaker 4 (09:26):
Not really sort of hummed and hard about things. But
as far as I can make out, he had advises
that joined together sort of like this whole guests anything with.

Speaker 3 (09:41):
With okay, I'll take that. I don't move on, but
thank you Henry Marcus, welcome.

Speaker 8 (09:47):
Hey Marcus here. I don't know whether you would have heard,
but said a plumps and north. Of course the Tui
Brewery is closing down.

Speaker 3 (09:57):
Couldn't I couldn't believe that. Talk about an known goal
and it looks like they haven't been brewing it there
for a couple of years since COVID.

Speaker 8 (10:05):
Yeah, so like know what was set up there was
but it's set spot, it said, because SUEI is a
you know, squad, a nice drop and if they quite it's.

Speaker 3 (10:13):
A legendary beer, a legendary brewery and they've done well
with that with their heads and everything like that too.
He is a strong brand. That's an own goal to
get rid of that. That's crazy, I know.

Speaker 8 (10:23):
And you know Marcus and twenty three Deen, me and
four other people went from from were either to Wellington
to do the half marathon there and we walked around
once like you know, men of a small Cuba street,
all the looking for a pub or bar that would
sell to and we only found like two out of
the whole night we were there that sold toy beer. Wow?

Speaker 3 (10:50):
What year was that?

Speaker 8 (10:52):
Twenty thu name? We went down there and we only found.

Speaker 3 (10:56):
Yeah, okay, you could go. Only found two clubs? Okay,
when did two? Because two we came from nowhere and
suddenly due to promotions became a huge deal, didn't it.

Speaker 8 (11:05):
Yeah?

Speaker 3 (11:06):
What year was there?

Speaker 7 (11:07):
What?

Speaker 3 (11:07):
How did it become huge?

Speaker 7 (11:10):
Well? I think they had the advertising the two girls there.

Speaker 3 (11:13):
It was a bit later on, wasn't it.

Speaker 7 (11:16):
Well what might have been?

Speaker 8 (11:18):
But like they had a lot of two years, you know,
all the beards on TV. You know they had the
one was thin or was it the dB? What the
one of the horses and all that, you.

Speaker 6 (11:27):
Know, it was dB.

Speaker 3 (11:28):
I think I think suddenly the students got onto too,
and then they had that year right campaign which went
very very well for them. Yeah, you know, but they
it's like a bit of a two ye's billboard and
they went gang buses and they had that ad with
the woman brewing the beer, which was quite fun. Six

(11:49):
is but fun and then nothing since they've given up
on it.

Speaker 8 (11:54):
Gorgeous looking for a building, yeah, said into a you know,
to a good beard.

Speaker 3 (12:01):
I'd be furious if I was living there in the
provinces that you're own local, you know, the one thing
you've got to claim to fame. They just bring it
in Auckland, I'd be boycotting. I'd be boycotting it.

Speaker 9 (12:13):
Yeah, well, let's drinking space.

Speaker 3 (12:16):
Well, I'm surprised about you with a having run the
marathon or a half marathon, Henry Marathon or a half marathon?

Speaker 9 (12:22):
Oh ha half well.

Speaker 3 (12:24):
Who'd run a half marathon? And then and the bender
around Wellington? Be so particular about what you're going to drink?

Speaker 8 (12:31):
Oh, because I find when I drink too of you,
I don't get a hangover or anything.

Speaker 2 (12:35):
It's just I think.

Speaker 7 (12:40):
We struggled to find a place.

Speaker 3 (12:42):
And which were the two that did?

Speaker 8 (12:45):
Oh it was a restaurant up I can't remember the
name of it now, but it's sold to but yeah,
all the other bars we went on to. You know,
they just didn't give you two. It didn't come on
tape or nothing.

Speaker 3 (12:55):
I'll be interested if did a half marathon, now what
the result would be. It'll be it'll be garage project
or got to brow. It's all. It's all kind of
quite niche now, isn't it.

Speaker 10 (13:07):
It is?

Speaker 8 (13:07):
And you know, Marke, it's a lot of the events
have up here. It's quite funny that if you get
to the end of the lawn, you know, you cross
the finish line and they give you a bottle of
Spats or something. You know, it's a really there's a
lot of yeah, it is. It's quite remarkable that Spakes
sponsor a lot of things that are running the North
on and a few events and you get to the
end and you get to a can of Spates.

Speaker 3 (13:28):
Oh, to be the last thing you'd want drink Spats
lose your mates. Nice to hear from you there, Henry
So anyone else? Anyone? Anyone know the history of twoey
Bear because it was never really a beer of high repute,
was it. I don't know. People. I guess Parmeston North
students probably started drinking and they thought there's something, but
like Spates, it was from nowhere and then they kind

(13:49):
of made it into something. Let's face it, beer is
entirely marketing. It's pretty much a parody product. Marcus. I
lived just down the road from the brewery. Somethings. I
think Neil has gone to the shop to buy the paper.
Announcement by Fonterra today seventy two million dollars spend. Marcus

(14:11):
not trying to initiate topic creep, But why can't I
find any Maggie chicken noodle soup or even anything other
than mushroom or tomato?

Speaker 11 (14:24):
Is it just me?

Speaker 3 (14:26):
Thanks Rachel Marcus. I saw David Siemour getting lunch today
at McDonald's opposite will Enter train station, no security detail.
Wonder what his combo order is and if he collects
the loyalty app points, it'd be a happy meal, wouldn't
he get in touch? My name is a good response

(14:48):
from the texts So the Towey Brewery and Horoscope. I've
got a show. It's sketchy so far, but they'll be
breaking news I think will happen in the next four hours.
Marcus Tooey has become a favorite drinks drink amongst our
Indian community because on the label it has Indian pale.
Ale didn't know that. I find that interesting. We're talking

(15:11):
toy Bear in the history of Towey Bear and if
it's a tragedy that they're closing that particular brewery, which
is a shame because I mean it's certainly a rural landmark.
I mean it's beautiful looking building there on that railway
line that wided up a lot will infect It's the
Hawk's Bay Line, isn't it.

Speaker 6 (15:26):
Bob.

Speaker 3 (15:26):
It's Marcus. Good evening and welcome you there, Bob. Can
you give him a tickle updown?

Speaker 12 (15:38):
Get you.

Speaker 3 (15:39):
We're talking the Toey Brewery people, and we just thought
Bob about Bob's pushed a button. I think Bob's pushed
a bad button. Marcus Maggie soup also no Luke and
Potato rang Madgie being discontinued. Love that Kappa soup. Marcus.
My grandfather worked at Toury Brewery in the fifties and sixties.

(16:03):
Grandparents had a dairy farm and mang our time Oka
and in the holidays would go and get the waste
grain for the cows. Nice and hot to whet. I
visited there in two thousand and eight with an American friend.
The two week girls went at work that day. Great memories.
Peter Auckland. Yeah, well there you go, and I guess

(16:26):
probably bears different now ever, went into those craft beer,
that's what it's called crafty beer. Bob Marcus, welcome and
here me now Marcus. Yeah, got loud and clear receiving.
Thank you.

Speaker 11 (16:36):
Oh, I don't know what happened that, don't what happened
here before me. I'm just wondering about the toy breweries.
Are they actually going to close the whole thing? Because
only a week ago, my young fellow from pay Tour
they just had their end of the year rugby function there.
And I've been to different hot rod functions and there's
also a free camping ground called Mangottanoda right next door
to it, so they used to run quite a few

(16:58):
functions in that out of that place. We're right shame
that all of a suddenly closed down.

Speaker 3 (17:03):
Yeah, I remember reading the reading the article Toy Brewer.
I just stand by their caller. The iconic toury brewer
in the Ta township among Attack is no longer producing beer,
made the decision to close the main production plan in
twenty fifteen, but instored a smaller modern brewery in order

(17:24):
to continue to Splights tap room. But dB Breweries phrases
Shrimpton has now confirmed it stopped brewing three years ago.
So it hasn't brewed there for three years.

Speaker 11 (17:37):
Well maybe they're still going to run the function side
of it, then.

Speaker 3 (17:40):
It said. Earlier this month, dB confirmed stopped selling brewery
tours at its site and instead offer a beer tasting
experience where visitors could sample a range of different beer styles,
all brewed somewhere else.

Speaker 9 (17:55):
Oh good, I'm not interested in that.

Speaker 3 (17:57):
Well, it seems a bit fake, doesn't it. It goes,
it goes on.

Speaker 11 (18:04):
Yeah, today a lot of people stay and they go
over there and get peach and everything from from the
brewery thing, and they put on a lovely meal. And
as I say, I've been there, my young color was
only there last week. I'm a rug me functioning. So
they will actually miss it because it's you know, yeah,
it's for the town.

Speaker 3 (18:19):
It's not, it's not. It does say it remains a
spiritual home of too. We will contend a welcome visits
to enjoy a tasty brew at the two HQ cafe
and bar, walk around the beautiful ground and check out
the iconic brewery tower that we had earthquake strengthen. That's
pathetic because they can't just teeth on the West coast.
But just that's worse just to have it there as

(18:42):
a fake brewery. Goodness.

Speaker 11 (18:45):
Well, of course I'm from the coast, so yeah, they've
got got all the Monteths and took that up to
Auckland as well. But anyway, you're talking about daylight saving,
I can't wait because I'm still coming around and I
want to go down to from here to cock or
to Hamna then back it over the coast. You some
fishing in the name of a river and that, and
of course any daylight saving for that, well, hang on.

Speaker 3 (19:05):
You got to look out with the races are I
think I think got rid of that racecourse at Kakoda
now because it was one of the grace hardest race
events of the year.

Speaker 11 (19:12):
They haven't got rid of that, mate, that's coming up
in about a month's time. That's as it's so popular.
I've tried to book for my camber and I'm first
on the list of anyone consoles because it's completely full.

Speaker 3 (19:29):
Well, I chanced upon it one year and I just thought, wow,
this is a special day in the sun. Quite a
lot of people came up on buses from christ Church.
We They are quite intoxicated, but they seem to enjoy themselves.

Speaker 11 (19:40):
It's one of the ones still going that has a
Sunday and a Monday. Oh jeep at the end of October. No, no,
I know me racing, That's what I do know.

Speaker 3 (19:51):
Hang on, Bob, if you tried the campground in.

Speaker 11 (19:53):
Oaro, No, where's that one?

Speaker 3 (19:56):
Oh, that's about ten k south. It's a good campground there,
right by the railway line. I reckon, you get in there?
Oh you got you got a pin and paper?

Speaker 13 (20:06):
No, no, but I'll remember it.

Speaker 3 (20:08):
Read it back to me.

Speaker 11 (20:10):
Arara, my my brother, my step brother runs the.

Speaker 3 (20:16):
Oh hang on, oh a r gee. That was priceless
with Bob, I said, Oa, I said, you got this
a yeah, it was one of the Anyway, the campground Oaro,
it's a great campground because the trains come right past it.
And I reckon it would probably be ten k's south

(20:38):
of Caakuta. I just checked out on the maps for
you because oh, actually might Yeah, it'd be about ten
k's right on the coast, just south of the Goose Bay,
north of the Hundles, one of the great places to stay.
I'm sure there's still the campground there, so put your
sling your hawk there in mind. You probably want to

(20:58):
get on it a bit, do you. I probably wants
to have a few beers under mansion, but you could
sleep well. I don't know what you could do. Hit
a train. But we're talking about the Tourrey Brewery and
people are furious. Marc is that press release regarding Terry
reminds me what Cadbury did to the need and stop production,
but then said they'll keep a gift store chocolate experience

(21:19):
plays open. I'm not sure how long that lasted. It
was a total dud. We still haven't bought a single
Cadbury product since Erin. I'm hearing you erin. Google Mangaitonoka,
twenty sixteen. Google it yourself. They already closed the mainline
years ago. It's been fake for eight years. They did

(21:41):
a very small area to pretend they were still doing it.
It's crazy. I mean, talk about an known goal for
a brewery that's the most classic. I mean, people would
go for miles there, including that Guy's hot Rod Club.
So there's real few of those breweries left. I don't
even know if they're brewing. I mean, Canterbury Draft's gone,

(22:04):
Monteeth's gone two He's gone Resume Spakes is brun in Auckland?

Speaker 7 (22:10):
Is it?

Speaker 3 (22:12):
This is not my battle, by the way, but I
know that people are loyal to particular Bruiser brands of
beer beer. So it's beer and horoscopes. That's what we're
on about tonight. Chew that rage and the great thing
is right next to the railway too. That was exciting.

(22:34):
I don't know if among it Tonoka is in the
widened upper or in a Hawk's bay. I presume it's
widened upper. But you know, you could do something about
that because the regions that that you know could have
could have been like hobbiton people going from near and
far to enjoy that. A pilgrimage the Tory Brewery. Get

(22:58):
yourself a selfie outside it. Oh mate, here we are.
People love that stuff anyway. On Neil at s Marcus,
good evening.

Speaker 14 (23:11):
Good are good?

Speaker 3 (23:13):
Thank you?

Speaker 15 (23:13):
Neil?

Speaker 3 (23:13):
Teen out of ten this end.

Speaker 14 (23:16):
That's good. Hey about those motor camps that are super
Karkura are you. Yeah, are you talking about the coastal
Clan camps. Yeah, yeah, the two coastal ones and Goose.
They are currently closed. I've got a caravan of Peta,
which is the nearest one south of Carcura. Other than that,

(23:38):
they have been closed for probably two or three.

Speaker 3 (23:40):
Years because of COVID or.

Speaker 14 (23:45):
UH management issues though, that's all I'm prepared to say.

Speaker 3 (23:51):
Really wow, So it sounds sketchy, sounds like they won't
be opening up again anytime soon.

Speaker 14 (24:00):
Actually, the current the new leaseholders are Pick the Motor Camp,
are very keen the local room nunner ed Katura. Yeah,
very keen to look at opening them in the future.

Speaker 3 (24:15):
I know one of the big biscuits in that organization,
so I wondered about that. Okay, yeah, he's a straight shooter.

Speaker 7 (24:24):
Yeah.

Speaker 14 (24:24):
They've just taken over the Pick of the Beach and
they're very keen in the future to look at opening
those other coastal camps.

Speaker 3 (24:32):
Okay, okay, Oh that's good, and tell Neil thanks for that.
I appreciate it. Twenty one away from nine, My name
is Marcus. Welcome you hold your horses, Bob, Let's go
check out the abandoned Toy Brewery year right, or we're
still committed to the STAB should put up a billoard
like we've still committed to the region year right. I

(24:54):
mean they've abandon it eighteen eighty nine. They started the
brewer a long time ago, Marcus, Toy Brewer even made
toy beer tomato sauce free. Nice. Maybe the listeners may
mention it, Marcus, if you heard of the abandoned railway
telling about six k's south of o r Oh. Well, look,
I think I might have in my railway researching days,

(25:23):
because we did film there when we're filming the series,
and I'm not quite sure what were the guy that
knew a lot about And I'm sure he probably mentioned
something about that. I don't know that currently is it accessible?
But it shows how longer I am campground there anyway,

(25:48):
evening Buzzard's Marcus, welcome and good evening.

Speaker 16 (25:52):
Yeah, good evening.

Speaker 17 (25:53):
Yeah.

Speaker 18 (25:53):
They mainly loving for Tara ru It's on the tarror
ruh oh jee.

Speaker 3 (25:57):
It's not when you hear much about the terror ruvers,
is it.

Speaker 7 (26:00):
No.

Speaker 18 (26:01):
You listen to the forecast and mainly we're not even
mentioned in it.

Speaker 3 (26:04):
Are you in there?

Speaker 12 (26:05):
Oh?

Speaker 3 (26:05):
That's terrible they try. They're trying to squeeze you out
by the sounds of things.

Speaker 18 (26:10):
Yeah, I lived just down the road. But just a
just a quicker thing about the breweries. They haven't had
a brewery license for a long time, and they put
a bit of a micro brewery and just so I
could keep it legal.

Speaker 3 (26:24):
That seems a bit slack, doesn't it.

Speaker 18 (26:27):
Yeah, Well, and I've been selling their product private years
we were Our pub was there before the Buriers.

Speaker 19 (26:34):
Book or the what sorry, before the brewery.

Speaker 18 (26:39):
Our pub was built in eighteen eighty eight. The brewery
wasn't built to eighteen eighty nine.

Speaker 3 (26:43):
Are you a publican? Buzz?

Speaker 7 (26:45):
Yeah, I just retired.

Speaker 3 (26:47):
Oh, thank you for your service. What was the pub.

Speaker 18 (26:51):
Club teller part?

Speaker 3 (26:53):
Okay, well the club.

Speaker 18 (26:57):
Club hotel built in eighteen eighty eight.

Speaker 3 (27:00):
And most of the people in the in the terror
orum is the beer of choice would be Towy.

Speaker 18 (27:06):
Yeah, that's how how it's going. Evidently, years ago they
tried lyon read in our pub and I wasn't sorry
they had to have it out.

Speaker 17 (27:16):
But that's all history.

Speaker 18 (27:19):
But there's a lot of in turn wrangling and middle
management was with Terry Brewry and what pulled him out
of the there for what the year had that that
year right had really really got one again?

Speaker 3 (27:36):
So what sorry? That oh year?

Speaker 12 (27:37):
Right?

Speaker 3 (27:38):
Yeah yeah that was it was free. People loved it.

Speaker 18 (27:42):
Oh yeah, well nearly all our customers over their working
lives have worked there for years. Yeah, and what what
what happened when? When when it got really busy? It
was what crept in was they didn't want to know
the smaller at all. I used to buy my gear off.

Speaker 16 (28:07):
Trade me.

Speaker 3 (28:09):
Cheapest.

Speaker 18 (28:11):
They had a rep more than one rep. Problem when
the reps when you're trying to the rep and know
whether you're trying to the present or future one.

Speaker 3 (28:23):
So tell me something, buzz And I just got to
say that your phone line is not fantastic. But we
are hearing most of what you're saying. Now that people
know that two E is brewed in Auckland, are they
going to stop drinking?

Speaker 5 (28:34):
It?

Speaker 18 (28:37):
Ingrained to them? But people's taste are changing. And of
course the legation been able to drink and drink a
couple of beers and drive done that at the bar.
There are a lot of damage, yeah, of course, yeah,
all of us a lot of damage. Yeah, but I've
seen people pull up at the public outside the brewery.
There down and pray on the ground.

Speaker 20 (29:05):
From the pub.

Speaker 21 (29:06):
See's these funny things.

Speaker 3 (29:08):
Nice to hear from your buzz. Thank you. Twelve away
from nine. It's good change the phone. I wasn't better,
but both very good. Here's a publican, Marcus. I went
to the Towry Brewer with a local hot rock club.
Went to see the girls, but they told us they
were having lunch and couldn't bother them. Yeah right, Marcus,

(29:28):
pay you to it. A Woodville rail line reopening for
log traffic. Local residents have received flis wanting of increased services.
Logs moved to Wellington via Palmi North to releave the
Lema Tuckers of truck traffic. Wow, great to hear from

(29:51):
a publican. Well, they were dying breed. Well lose a lot.
We've lost all the pubs, won't we I don't know
what we will have lost. They do always say, oh,
I'll tell you what. The drink driving laws have been
the death of the local pub. Matthew Marcus, Welcome, good evening.

Speaker 21 (30:12):
You know Marcus Winstone's well in the Rupe district. Yes,
I don't know the company. I've just seen them in
the media. Last couple of days, I had a couple
of thoughts. They're closing down because of high energy prices electricity,
and I had the Maori workers most of them are Maori,

(30:36):
seventy percent I think of the workforce. So they produce
timber products, and the workers have put their hand up
and said, can the government do something to help them?
They want to work, they don't want to lose the company,
and it's the biggest employer in the area. Well, I

(30:56):
reckon the government should do something here the right You know,
they've been to a degree bash in the Maori lately
and the agenda they want the production, they want to
get the country productive and all that which is great.

(31:17):
Here's an opportunity to support that, so I think they should.
You can't go around subsidizing or failing out private companies,
but here's a situation where they really need to pony
up and do something, especially when you've got a workforce
laity now putting their hand up to say help us
keep working. Right, what do you reckon?

Speaker 3 (31:38):
I don't know anything about the workforce or the makeup
of the workers. I do know that the that the
boss of Winstone, it did seem complicated as though he
was buying the electricity on the spot market, not on
the futures market, so he's paying a lot more for
it as though. And I don't know if that was
some sort of point that he had to prove about that,

(32:00):
but it seemed I can't quite work out why the
guy was buying power on the short term market. Seems
to have been why they were victims of such wild,
just wild changes in the price of power. So I
haven't fully understood the story.

Speaker 21 (32:20):
Because I've only just read about it.

Speaker 3 (32:23):
But did you did you read that? Did you read
that about the guaranteed power prices?

Speaker 22 (32:28):
No?

Speaker 13 (32:29):
No, just it was because you.

Speaker 3 (32:30):
Can buy, you can buy, you can buy power on
this you can buy power on the spot price, but
the most sensible thing is to buy a long term
so you haven't got exposure to the fluctuations.

Speaker 21 (32:40):
And maybe they just need some support and help for that.

Speaker 3 (32:44):
Yeah, I just saw them through that. And actually yeah,
because I know that, I know the ski fields have
you know, they've had a tough time of it because
the Skifield Company went bung and I mean that holds
you know, the whole central Northarland, the.

Speaker 21 (33:02):
Area at all, a little bit not very well, but.

Speaker 3 (33:06):
It seems to be I mean the army base at
wayou Do, that seems to be most of those people
have moved away, that that's no longer what it was.
You've got the ski fields are winding down. It seems
to be an area. You've got all the prisons that
were there, A lot of them have closed down. So
it seems to be an area. It's becoming sort of
a whole area of ghost towns, doesn't it.

Speaker 7 (33:28):
Yes.

Speaker 21 (33:28):
The article I read today said seventy of the work
as a Maori the Winston Pulp it's the biggest employer
in the area. Interestingly, just on electricity.

Speaker 17 (33:41):
I had had a.

Speaker 21 (33:42):
Coffee morning tea with a politician that's two weeks ago,
and he mentioned power places and he had been involved
in that in his political career, and he mentioned I
didn't think much of it because we're talk in geopolitics,
but I don't think you're talking what Matthew. Geopolitics are

(34:04):
about Ukraine and Taiwan really mostly and affordable housing, which
is my hot button issue. I'm right into that. Who
was who was the politician I'd rather not say Marcus,
but his former prime Minster.

Speaker 3 (34:17):
Oh yeah, Okay, m.

Speaker 21 (34:21):
Anyway, so I didn't think much. But he was railing
a bit about power prices and he'd been involved in
the industry when he was in government, so yeah, but
there you're going, it's closing down companies, the cost of electrucity.
That's no good and what.

Speaker 3 (34:38):
Was the promise former premises inside.

Speaker 21 (34:42):
He he'd worked on New Zealand electricity and his point
was that it's not working properly, it's not working efficiently.
And yeah, as Prime Minster he had been closely involved
in that previously, so he knew about it. But yeah,
but that's why I was interested to read today that

(35:04):
it's you know, the price of its shutting down. No manufacturing,
which we want, we need more of. We're light on it,
and I was I wanted to talk about increasing manufacturing,
how to get it going, And it seems to me
timber and food and agriculture are our strong points and manufacturing,

(35:25):
so we really need to build on that, build it up.

Speaker 3 (35:28):
Nice to hear from Matthew. Thank you. Just coming up
to the news time people. My name is Marcus good
evening oh eight hundred and eighty ten eighty and talking
about the toy breweries. Marcus, I'm glad Buzz confumed what
I was saying. I was gutted in twenty sixteen when
they hit the news. Basically they closed down the actual
bottling plant then opened a boutique line, as he says,

(35:51):
just to make it legal. Toy among it and like
a dark was the dark toy version was sold understand
only on tap was better than the actual toy. Daniel,
we're talking toy breweries. It's a shadow of what it
was and they've kind of wrecked it. Basically it's just
a building now with a cafe, but no beer is
made there. She could at least turn into an Airbnb

(36:15):
or something you could stay in the brewer. That would
be good Mark's. At the age of fifteen, I was
one of the first two and one hundred at the
toy catcher Hyundi Primo in christ Church. The English Batsman
blasted the bellow of the bounty for six and we're
in the two that I caught, a clean catch. Many
years later, I wanted to become wealthy, so pulled the

(36:35):
Hondi out of my cricket memorably a chest and bought
a hundi worth of my food bag shares to support
local so far. I've turned the hundi into nine dollars
in just under eight months. Now that's a typo. But
always lost all his money. But there we go. Don't

(36:57):
really follow my food bag shares hark. Here is the
action now expanding for the new Orion Pights, No twig
go though not much too among it to know, but
I guess it was a rail town with a brewery.
So we are talking about the Towy brewer. Also about

(37:20):
where they still do star signs your horoscopes, just to
be quite your people, quite a toolbout horoscopes these days.
No one mentioned it. Quite often. You've been in a cafe,
somebody of a paper that say what's your star sign?
That read something a name, But no one seems to

(37:41):
be in at all these days. I don't know what's
replaced it, but it seems as though all those madeor
breweries outposts have closed. Can do draft no longer made.
Monteeth on the West coast no longer made there. There
was a brewery there on the coast that's gone. I

(38:04):
don't know if in Vcago ever had a brewer. I
think it did. This a big building nothing used to
be a brewery. I mean It's just what happened, isn't it.
It's changed, but I don't necessarily mean that we need
to embrace it, and we can still celebrate something when

(38:24):
it goes. I suppose and say, what were they thinking? Kathy?
It's Marcus. Good evening and welcome, good evening.

Speaker 19 (38:35):
Marcus.

Speaker 23 (38:35):
You reminded me of the story my father used to
tell me when they were training, you know, the volunteers
heading off to the Second World War and training from Trentham.
They were sent up to Paho tour among acton over there,
and instead of doing what they were told, the group
that my father was was captured the brewery and they

(39:05):
got into an allful lot of trouble. But never mind.
He came back from World War to safely.

Speaker 3 (39:11):
There's a fantastic thing to do. Kathy's fed. How'd they
capture it with? I suppose the surrounded little sort of things.
Did they?

Speaker 23 (39:18):
I don't know, but you know they were on some
kind of pretend maneuvers and whatever, but they took off.

Speaker 3 (39:26):
YEA, nice to hear from you, Kathy. Thank you, Munga Taynoka. Yeah, anyway,
keep it going. My name is Marcus Huddled twelve. Love
to hear from you. I don't kind of. I mean
they do a cafe. I think people what they want
is just a proper country pub there next to it.
That's Rugby in two. I don't know if there is

(39:46):
an ordinary pub. There's just that she she pub at
Munga Taynoka. Is that right? I need to be heading
back up there to small settlement. I'm looking at its
Wikipedia page. No kidding, only people who can live there.

(40:08):
It's about the same as Bluff eighteen hundred. He has
a golf course.

Speaker 13 (40:20):
There.

Speaker 12 (40:20):
You go.

Speaker 3 (40:23):
In a primary school with a roll of fifty four.
Be a rail town, though very much so with the
old rail cars coming through. dB Marcus welcome well.

Speaker 20 (40:38):
Just a nicator at the beginning of the week, Jay,
small world, well, small small country. I couldn't want Australia
for the least.

Speaker 3 (40:52):
Did you fly to.

Speaker 20 (40:55):
He did Queenstown, Wellington, and then picked up a rental car.

Speaker 2 (41:01):
And then.

Speaker 20 (41:03):
So I thought, I don't wisdom before I run out
of Monty.

Speaker 3 (41:08):
How's iktahuna Ah that I space to visit, But I
don't think.

Speaker 20 (41:13):
I could live there.

Speaker 3 (41:17):
Don't do me too far and land for me?

Speaker 20 (41:19):
I think, yes, A long way from almost everywhere, and
it's it's one of those drives that feels long.

Speaker 3 (41:26):
Yeah, that's right, and I think the way the drive
that feels long is the thing cheapest creepers. I've been
on the road forever. It's not far at all.

Speaker 20 (41:33):
Yeah yeah, like yeah, But anyway, I noticed that bridge,
the rail bridge had scaffolding everything, and it's not even
getting some some log trains running through. Here's where they're
coming from, running out of why now carrying logs. They're

(41:53):
going via Palmas north to Willington. What Madman's come up
with that idea?

Speaker 3 (41:59):
Okay, tell me where one. Tell me where one rror.

Speaker 20 (42:02):
Ish ten kilometers south of Basington.

Speaker 3 (42:09):
And they're going up and they're going down through the
railway line through the gorge, which which still exists right, yes,
and that's because the tunnels are bigger. They can't take
it down through the White app alone.

Speaker 20 (42:26):
Well, they had these stuff until I've just been doing
some research. Of course, the Rumor Tackle Tunnel is closed
over some of this year because.

Speaker 3 (42:33):
I put the tracks the tracks were too close together.

Speaker 20 (42:39):
They're they're they're relaying the tracks aga because you know,
it's it's hard on tracks and side tunnels I.

Speaker 3 (42:47):
Know, yeah, we understand it.

Speaker 20 (42:50):
But the we're completely redoing the tracks and in the
end I thought, not a bad move. But at least
we're utilizing. But if you weren't training a day, you've
got to seventy two trucks with US logs.

Speaker 3 (43:04):
I wonder why they don't take it out outside the
napier port. Is that not available because it seems to
be a lot of well, I guess it's be half
a dozen and sex wouldn't it.

Speaker 20 (43:14):
Yeah, it just depends on who the four major borders.
And then they want their longs.

Speaker 2 (43:20):
To go to.

Speaker 3 (43:21):
Okay, and where did you say the town was? Wanga?
Oh that's just north of south of Yeah, just yeah, okay,
just south of Marston yep.

Speaker 20 (43:29):
I shouldn't do a very large tripball middle then yeah,
they went by the boards.

Speaker 3 (43:39):
Did you go?

Speaker 20 (43:41):
You couldn't through the train through the commuter trap, but
of course you can't get a train through a tunnel
that hasn't got any railway lines.

Speaker 3 (43:47):
No, that's sad for those people, and the worded up
having to go by bus because the trains no longer
going because of having to reline the tunnel. I don't
like the idea of that, because it must be. It's
lovely commuting from Marston and the train, but to go
by bus, well that's a hell of a journey across
a limite, because that's horrible.

Speaker 20 (44:04):
But they are offering even short of rail time once
they've done it. Okay, I mean, if you believe the
series at the bottom of the Garden, I'll save you
the land rolls out.

Speaker 3 (44:17):
Hey, did you go into the tuy Did you stop
at Mango Mango Toanoka when you were up up that
part of the country.

Speaker 20 (44:24):
Well, I passed. It was about six times going on
my various sojoans up there, and never even I didn't
feel like it doesn't have a welcome mat out feel No.

Speaker 3 (44:37):
You're right, you're right, because there's nothing. There's nothing in
the town apart from that building.

Speaker 20 (44:44):
That's correct, I don't okay, Well there was one one
old pub on the main lot on main Road, but
even that didn't look inviting.

Speaker 3 (44:57):
Yeah, okay, we'll talk more about that DV. Thank you
Jason and s Marcus. Good evening.

Speaker 19 (45:01):
Yeah, how are you good?

Speaker 3 (45:03):
Jason?

Speaker 24 (45:06):
I mean engineer, and I'm fifty years old. But the
older engineers, like the sixteen seventy year old engineers used
to tell me stories of working at the brewery, and
they were allowed to drink beer at ten o'clock, twelve o'clock,
three o'clock in five thirty. Wow, it was the culture.

(45:31):
But they weren't allowed to drink pints, but they were
allowed to drink the little are they six ounce glasses?

Speaker 2 (45:39):
Yeah?

Speaker 16 (45:39):
The little little ones.

Speaker 24 (45:41):
But they could have a whole tray past glass.

Speaker 15 (45:43):
Wow.

Speaker 24 (45:45):
So you could have a whole tray of little glasses,
but you couldn't have a big glass.

Speaker 3 (45:50):
Did they drink? Or when you get sick of it?
If it's just there with your.

Speaker 24 (45:53):
Job, I don't know if you get sick of it.

Speaker 3 (46:00):
Well, I wonder if people would, if people would sign
up because they liked beer, or the people just saw
the job and in the end they thought, well, I
can't be fast, I'm busy doing something else.

Speaker 24 (46:12):
Now we're talking about contract engineers that came in and
done a job.

Speaker 3 (46:16):
Oh okay, so they're not the other work there.

Speaker 24 (46:19):
Yeah, they didn't work there full time, but so they
would get to drink all these beers, and then they'd
get to know the local workers. Who would I think
you got a dozen beers if you worked there you'd
take a dozen home every week, so if you weren't
a drinker, you'd end up with boxes and boxes of

(46:40):
beer in your garage. And then these contract engineers would
come in get to know the local workers, and there
would just be throwing all these beers there was. It
was a beer heaven.

Speaker 3 (46:54):
I think when you worked at some of those big
brewis at Auckland, like dB, I think you've only got
six beers a day to take home if you wanted them.
It seems like a lot does but I guess it
stops people taking them.

Speaker 24 (47:05):
Yeah, yeah, well this is this is you know, forty
odd years ago.

Speaker 3 (47:12):
Okuess it probably has. I thought you were going to
say that the building was earthquake pro Is it earthquake prone?

Speaker 7 (47:18):
Do you know?

Speaker 24 (47:20):
Oh, it has to be. It's an old, crappy, old
brick building.

Speaker 3 (47:24):
Brick building. I wonder if that's what the problem is
that they can't that there's work in safety issues having
people working in there because it's vulnerable, because I think
it's a pretty quaky part of the country too, isn't it.

Speaker 24 (47:36):
Well, all the New Zealand's quaky, but time has moved on.
You just can't operate out of that, you know, in
the middle of nowhere.

Speaker 3 (47:45):
Nice to talk, Thanks for that. Talking about the breweries,
and we're talking about the tuoy brilliant manga tay Nunka,
which is now no longer a thing. Gom Burger, that's
a shame. But there stoped brewing a while ago, and yeah,
now they've come that's right about it. There is some

(48:07):
kind of well, yeah, look, I don't know, but I
would imagine if they are no longer brewing it there,
that particular beer will no longer be around for much
longer because the whole brew, the whole the whole appeal
of the beer was the fact that it all came
back to that one building and that one place. And

(48:31):
I think people that drunk twy like the fact that
it was from the small town where they made it.
It was very much part of the myth of the drink.
So now that that's not there, I imagine that probably
not new places will sell it and it will fade away.
That would be my take, might be wrong. Don't sound
like they're that committed to it. To me, though, it

(48:51):
was a great story. It's a great campaign in the
air right campaign. All of it was good. Let it
slide A twenty three past nine, Marcus. There was a
pub across the road from Towey called Dudley Arms. I
had many of my family members working for Towey. One
of them had a farm there with a huge sign

(49:12):
on a hill named Towi Wood like Hollywood. My brother
in law had a farmer walking distance to the brewery.
My brother in law had a farmer, had a farm
walking distance the brewery. Many more stories there in Old
George Napier Marcus. Number of years ago we did a

(49:36):
rail trip from Willington to the Manga Taynoka Towey bear
factory on the Silver Fern. We went via the Manuwatu
Gorge after the gorge road had been closed. There was
no railway station near the brewery, so the train stopped
by the paddock opposite the brewery, so had to climb

(49:58):
down on the tracks and cross the paddocks to get there.
We had a great tour, but no beer was being made.
The food was great and the beer was well sampled.
There's to say. There's a lot of off tune raucus
singing on the return journey. Late that day back to Wellington, Marcus.

(50:20):
Do you know how many museums there are in New Plymouth.
Every small town seems to it. So do you know
how many museums there are news in and every small
town seems to have one? Marcus, what exactly is a
rail car? And are there any's still running? Ah? I

(50:41):
think a rail car is just a carriage that's propelled,
doesn't require a locomotive. Have you got any tips for
a sleepless young couple with a five year old and
a newborn. They've moved from quiet Havelock, North Hawks Bay
to take up jobs and elephants in Auckland, right next
to a busy metro train line. Passenger trains are electric

(51:05):
and quiet. It's the twelve diesel motor freight trains that
drag up to seventy ninety carriages behind them. They were
so desperate for a house they took the one year tendancy,
which is the norm. Now, have you got any tips?
My tip would be white Noise and play that. Just

(51:26):
download it on your cell phone app and just it'll
get them through it. And I think you can get
used to anything noise. I think you'll get used to
train noise. Everyone I know that's lived next to a
railway line and They all say this, every single person.
If you say, do the noise of the trains wake

(51:47):
you up? They say, no, you get used to it.
Then they'll pause, and every single one of them will
then say, but I tell you what, anytime the train
stops running, you wake up the middle. It seems so weird.

(52:08):
Just seems to be the way that'll wake them up
when it doesn't go by. It's funny thing about the
human brain, isn't it? Good evening, Brian, It's Marcus welcome.

Speaker 2 (52:22):
Hey.

Speaker 17 (52:23):
The pr of the brewery is a historic building and
that was reinforced by the brewer years ago.

Speaker 3 (52:30):
Would it be up to code? Oh yeah it is,
so we just have two giant copper vets in there.
Would it know that the.

Speaker 17 (52:42):
The brick power, it's got a historic place trust on it. Okay, yeah,
and they reinforced it a few years ago. But the
Duddley Pub I grew up here years and years ago.
You know, it's my fond memories out there because my
parents or my grandparents of Netwll railway people, and my

(53:04):
grandfather was an Indian Oliver.

Speaker 10 (53:08):
Yeah.

Speaker 17 (53:10):
So I used to do the Woodball two Willington the
Truth and when they took the soldiers, you know, from
during World War Two. He used to go on the
incline my dad, and they used to tell me some
awesome stories about you know how my dad was only

(53:30):
five or six and he needs to sit with my
father when they had the incline over the room of tugers.
That's right here. It's awesome. It's a long time since
I lived up there, but it's that brings back nice memories.

Speaker 10 (53:48):
Listening tonight, it says.

Speaker 3 (53:50):
The brew Tower has a national significance. Is one of
the few remaining examples of an early commercial brewery. The
tower is still sufficiently intact to demonstrate the manner in
which gravity was used to convert malten to be before
the use of pumps became common in the broom process.

Speaker 17 (54:06):
That's right, yeah, and the mangos there such such pure water,
that's why they do so.

Speaker 3 (54:13):
They started there because of the spring. Where is is
the spring right there on the premises?

Speaker 17 (54:20):
Not now, It's used to be down the road a bit,
you know, down with without talking about the Dudley. The
Dudley arms the pub pub and that that's just I
think it's a backpacker. It's been restored, but it's it's
a dry pub a year.

Speaker 3 (54:38):
Well, but yeah, just springs hang about? Are there are
there hot springs near there as well?

Speaker 17 (54:46):
No, no, there's no hot springs here.

Speaker 3 (54:48):
Okay, there's another place called Okay, understand.

Speaker 17 (54:51):
Okay here, But the trains, I remember seeing you talk
about the server Foom with my father one, you know,
seeing it in Woodball when it first come out, And
I've got it's just amazing how the trains used to
go through the main trunk was Woodball, you know, that
was where they never come back down to mass but
the main trunk went to make Yeah, and woo Ball

(55:13):
was a sort of center point.

Speaker 3 (55:15):
Yeah, it'd be right. Okay, I got to rude for
headlines broad but nice to hear, and thanks about that.
But yeah, I forgot that tod be the springs would
be the reason the brew was there.

Speaker 25 (55:23):
Of course, I've got a Twoy brewery story as well.

Speaker 3 (55:25):
Marcus saw didn't that wasn't on my list today. I
thinks you have a story about.

Speaker 25 (55:30):
Tony I swung I swung past there in nineteen seventy
six because two he was brewing Tenants strong Ale under license,
and that was one of my favorite beers. And I
wondered where it came from. I never heard of Manga
Taynoka before. So on my on this nineteen seventy six
band tour, I went on with Brent Parlane. I got
the van to swing past Manga tyin Oka so I
could have a look at the place.

Speaker 3 (55:51):
And that was that wow, And that is a And
they're making Tenants be.

Speaker 25 (55:54):
The Strong Ale, your Tenants Ale and Tenants Strong Ale. Yeah,
and that was brewed under license there for quite a
few years.

Speaker 3 (56:02):
So he's a country singer, is he?

Speaker 10 (56:04):
Yeah?

Speaker 25 (56:04):
He was, Yeah, it was had a band beach and
then was solo.

Speaker 3 (56:08):
Did you just slide guitar or something?

Speaker 25 (56:10):
I was drumming in that band?

Speaker 3 (56:11):
Of course you were, of course did you play where
you're playing?

Speaker 25 (56:15):
The regional towns Palmerston North and Living and places like
that back in the day, and then quite a few
Walkland shows.

Speaker 3 (56:23):
And I guess it's all when you're on the road
where the band, it's always whatever thing Old Doby wants
to go see there, I'll go to the brewery. Off
you all go. It's something to it.

Speaker 25 (56:31):
Oh, it's a whole bunch of young idiots.

Speaker 3 (56:37):
Thanks Tony twenty away from ten eyone's got a brewery story.
I love it. Keep it going. Oh, eight hundred and
eighty eight two brewery? How can they do that? I
don't even know who owns Tony? Is it dber is
it line? I've got sort of I'm sure I could
google all that up, but I don't know. I don't
know where their money is, Like where do they make
their money? They just don't want to have It's just

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high volume business, isn't it these days? Is that right?
Then they buy up those craft breweries at what they do,
and they kind of try and get some love from them.
Is that the way it all works? I don't even
know if it's Lion or if it's who owns it? Someone?
Let me know though, if you want to come through.
We are talking breweries. O wait, one hundred and eighty

(57:20):
Taddy in nine text. I mean it could have been
like Cobberton if they really had committed to it. It's
such a dB brewery thing. DBI Brewers is in based
company owned by Heineken, started by Sir Henry killerher had

(57:45):
to Island and Joseph Coots. The partners purchased Levers and Co.
And the Might of Atar brewery and aw Tahuhu. The
company Maya produces pale Lago whals. It's to his brand
is one of the better on beers, partly due to
strong advertising, not because of its taste. It's been there

(58:07):
in eighteen eighty nine, so there you go. The year
right billboard campaign came from nineteen ninety seven until twenty sixteen,
including one's Kimilla for Queen. Year right, Orkan does a

(58:28):
people too? Year right? Ironically, they now brewing the beer
in Auckland. When Winston says no, he means no. Year right, Captain,
I know a shortcut to the port year right. That's
the Renner our father in heaven. Tommicky be your name?

(58:49):
Yeah right, goodness. In twenty ten, a church was threatened
with legal action after parodying the Twoey billboard campaign with
the slogan atheists have nothing to worry about. Yeah right,
quite good. Get in touch Randall. It's Marcus good.

Speaker 6 (59:10):
Evening, kured a Marcus.

Speaker 19 (59:12):
I just wonder, I just wondered if anyone had mentioned
to Emato sauce.

Speaker 3 (59:19):
Yes, is it good?

Speaker 19 (59:21):
I like it. I've just had it when I've been
out at pub quizzes and stuff. It's definitely different to
what he sauce, like the consistency of it and the taste.
I think from memory it's got two dare in it.
I just did some quick research. It's the third best
selling tomato sauce in New Zealand after what He's and
Hines and they sell four hundred thousand units a year.

(59:43):
So it's yeah, obop.

Speaker 3 (59:47):
So when you get it at a pub quizzy, you're
at a dB pub and that's what they provide.

Speaker 19 (59:52):
Well, yeah, I was trying to remember. It's been a
while since I've had it, and it's actually just the
conversation tonight's maybe think it's actually worth going and buying
someone you know enjoying it again.

Speaker 16 (01:00:01):
Different If you want to get.

Speaker 3 (01:00:02):
Random, you ought to get back into your pub quizzes
because it sounds like you enjoyed those.

Speaker 19 (01:00:07):
Oh well, I can tell you that the Social Sciences
department at King's High School won the cross country Quiz
for the second year in a row last Wednesday, so
we're in a bit of a.

Speaker 3 (01:00:15):
Role the social science department is it is King's High
in Dunedin.

Speaker 19 (01:00:22):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, So there's a bit of rivalry between
the different departments and we managed to we managed to
defend our title at what pub? I was actually held
at the Pirates Rugby Club this one? Yeah yeah, but
the Kensington and.

Speaker 3 (01:00:38):
Dannegan wondered, yep.

Speaker 19 (01:00:41):
Yeah, okay, but yeah, I'm not sure if that's still
too you or not.

Speaker 16 (01:00:45):
I think, yeah, yeah I was.

Speaker 19 (01:00:49):
I was there ten days ago. But I don't drink alcohol,
so I don't sort of notice those things. But definitely
a stand of the tomato.

Speaker 3 (01:00:56):
Sauce, tomato sauce, Yeah, would you get it? Would you
get a bowl of fries or that were just that
they provide those of a pub quiz it's been a well.

Speaker 19 (01:01:07):
No, I may you have to you have to buy
buy your drinks and fries. But it's it's definitely it's
worth trying because it's just so different to the other sources.
The spinoff describes it as sort of like a homemade sauce,
and it's a bit bigger and the consistencies are different.

Speaker 3 (01:01:22):
I wonder where can you do some research and find
it where it's made. It's probably made by.

Speaker 19 (01:01:26):
What is It's actually made by Delmain. I just a
little bit of reading. Yeah, there's an artic on the
spinoff at end of last year saying it is this
is tomato, New Zealand's best tomato sauce.

Speaker 3 (01:01:39):
Do you think it's a good name. I'm not good
to say when you said it sounds a bit clumsy, Reen,
Do you think it's a good name? Tomato?

Speaker 19 (01:01:46):
The other one was their other the barbecue sauce was
barb barbatoiot. I thought, I bet tomato is quite clever.
And of course you're never going to get drunk on
it because the alcohol gets burned off during the production process.

Speaker 3 (01:02:01):
So what they bother here? Two tomato? Okay, I'm like that, Randal,
and thank you for researching. Thank you for researching and
fact checking your call. That's really good. That's the futurist effect.
Check people, tomato sauce. Marcus. Years ago, my job took

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me to all the factories in the wided Upper and
used to time the toy Brewery visit for afternoon smoco
with free bear on tap bears. Of course it's bears.
You can imagine bears. Oh gee, oh you're just here
for smokeo bears? Oh what are the chanswers? Marcus. I

(01:02:45):
like to tomato sauce too. You get it in gardens
New World and needing. At the moment Marcus still Covid
I was doing eight point five meter campavan relocations bi monthly,
christ Dutch to Auckland Goosebe was good. They also had
a waterfront block just north of the main campground. I
think it's closed down now. Last time I went through,

(01:03:06):
I parked some five k's north of Kai Kulda on
the seafront Freedom campers know it. Didn't see the railway
line in the twilight just behind me. Woke up two
thirty with fifty three wagon Goods trains chugging past. Yes,
I counted them, made a coffin and wanted off to
the ferry. Picked a nice and early always used blue bridge,
good blue cotton chips. Great email there. Thank you for that, Colin.

(01:03:33):
And we are talking the Tiwey Brewery, and that's important
because it's no longer going to be a thing. It
certainly sounds like it should be a museum. Always love
hearing about pub quizzes. Probably the one one of the

(01:03:54):
things about working nights is you don't get to go
to a pub quiz because there aren't many in the afternoon,
and there aren't any many and weekends either. But that
by the Bye love a pub quiz JT. It's Marcus Goreveling.

Speaker 7 (01:04:11):
Good evening, I've got a pub quiz question for you.
There's a point in the United States where four states meet.
Name those four states. It's known as did I say
the four Corners?

Speaker 3 (01:04:28):
Is there only one? Is there only one point in
the United States where four states meet in the corner?

Speaker 7 (01:04:37):
Yeap on a north, south, and east west is.

Speaker 3 (01:04:40):
One of them? Dakota is one of any of the Dakotas. No,
I'm not gonna look at the map. Why did they
not do it?

Speaker 18 (01:04:48):
More?

Speaker 7 (01:04:48):
Okay, there's a monument there of these cars that are
being parked in the ground, about ten of them parked vertically.

Speaker 3 (01:04:58):
Oh, Cadillac, right, that's quite a famous artwork in it.

Speaker 7 (01:05:02):
Yeah, it was on that Billy the comedian and what's his.

Speaker 3 (01:05:07):
Name callact Ranch. That's that's they're all painted and that's
an Amorillo Texas is it?

Speaker 2 (01:05:15):
No?

Speaker 6 (01:05:16):
Oh, okay, I've got that wrong.

Speaker 3 (01:05:19):
Yeah, okay, yeah, the four the.

Speaker 7 (01:05:22):
Four Corners, they are Utah, Colorado, New Mexico, and Arizona.

Speaker 3 (01:05:31):
It seems amazing there's only one place we're all four
meet together like that?

Speaker 7 (01:05:37):
Yeah, because a lot of the states are on the
banks of the Mississippi, so what they are on the coastal.

Speaker 3 (01:05:49):
So it's Arizona, New Mexico, Colorado. Well when you look
at the map, it's quite obvious they're all there like that.

Speaker 7 (01:05:54):
Ah yeah, yeah, But just on that man and Tinoka.
You were saying about whether the building was earthquake prone,
but no, they strengthened it seven or eight years ago.
So at least DV did that before they abandoned the site.

Speaker 3 (01:06:12):
Because it's kind of like it. It's kind of a
bit of a poisoned chalice for the town. Now they've
got this beautiful building, which is historic. It's a gummer building,
great architects, and they can't do much with it, and
there's no use for it either. But it's got those
because I'm sure I presume it hasn't got different floors
that I presume it's just giant. It's just full of machinery,
isn't it. And a gravity fee.

Speaker 7 (01:06:32):
I think it's yeah, different floor. I think it's got
four different floors or something. And because they use the
gravity to transfer the product from one floor to the other.
But it would almost be better if they sold it
to some up and coming small brewery company. They could
really make it their headquarters and own it, because you've
got to remember they built that brewery there because of

(01:06:55):
all the grain growing and barley growing land surrounding it
and all that's not going anywhere.

Speaker 3 (01:07:04):
How would they have got the How would have they
got the grain to the top? What have there been winches?
And they'd actually have to winch it up by hand?

Speaker 7 (01:07:13):
Maybe grain elevators. Have you heard of a grain elevator?

Speaker 10 (01:07:17):
Yeah?

Speaker 7 (01:07:18):
Yeah, yeah, it's a vertical. They used to have them
in Canada and they still have them in all because
they used to work in the sea cleaning plant out
near miss And and they have it. They take like
a cup size of seed or grain and there's one
cup every foot on a belt and they can take

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it as high as they want and then it just
comes down as it comes down from tank to tank.
Yeah that's the way.

Speaker 3 (01:07:47):
But yeah, I guess there would be steam steam driven
in eighteen ninety.

Speaker 7 (01:07:52):
Yeah, you'd have a boiler or whatever to still the
heat heat stuff to what do they make start with
a it's not a mash? Is that that's when you're
making spirits?

Speaker 2 (01:08:05):
Yeah?

Speaker 3 (01:08:05):
I don't know what it is, but there was some
other point you wanted to make. I just got a
commercial break before the news, JT. What was the other
thing I had to say?

Speaker 7 (01:08:10):
You fucker Poper. It's just fucker Papa Skifield. It's not
going good. The rain there a couple of weeks ago
and they lost a lot of snow.

Speaker 3 (01:08:20):
How many days skiing did they get?

Speaker 7 (01:08:23):
Well? Friday marked halfway through the season, and it was
going to be a ninety nine day season. They missed
the first fourteen days and I think they've lost about
ten days since so and it's too warm up there
lately and it's raining and they're losing snow. I'll I

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don't think they're going to survive until what's the next
school holidays the first of October.

Speaker 3 (01:08:50):
I think you're probably right, thanks JT. Marcus. I'm from Tunnehoa.
Two years in my DNA when in recent years I
had to go gluten free. What gunned me the most
was not being able to have a TOI the large
bottles tasted the best, and we sat in the credit part.
He's the perfect chair. Closing the brewery is a good idea. Yeah, right,

(01:09:13):
see what she did there, Marcus stopped buying or drinking
Corona beer when production moved to China, Ethel and christ
Church slat Spate's Summer Spates Summit, Ultra would be the
South Island's biggest selling beer. Really gone look good. We

(01:09:41):
went to a couple of city Council Christmas work dues
from Palming North to twe Brewery top night, lavish menu
drinks and band. Bus strip back was too wild with
drunken work staff dancing in the aisles putting the bus
drove a great show. Francis Gordon good evening.

Speaker 9 (01:10:02):
Yes, thinking Marcus I was interested in the the cause
ringing out Mangatanoka. But back in the days, in the
nineteen thirty nineteen thirty four, in fact, my parents as

(01:10:25):
we lived at a railway house at Maya Padoka. I
think there was two maybe three railway houses there and
my father was a I think they called them porters

(01:10:45):
those days. I don't think he was a station master.
But what I do mainly you remember because only five
years of age in nineteen thirty four, the fifth of March,
I believe we have massive earthquake in the parts to

(01:11:06):
an area and surprisingly the tear of the two brewery
we're still standing. After the earthquake. It did a great
deal of damage to the shops in so we were

(01:11:34):
there for about twelve eighty months and then we moved
in to Manga Mutu. So I just want to pass
that on.

Speaker 3 (01:11:48):
Do you remember, Gordon, Do you remember your address? What
where the railway houses were on?

Speaker 10 (01:11:53):
In?

Speaker 3 (01:11:54):
There? Were they on?

Speaker 2 (01:11:57):
Yeah, just north of the where the brewery is. There's
a turn off to the left and you go off
a short track there and you come to the railway
line and then that's where the Liberal railway station was.

(01:12:17):
There was also a good shed there from memory, because
they used to do, you know, shunting and winding and
over the across the railway station and the houses are
all gone now. Of course there's a long times as

(01:12:39):
I've been over that way. And even though the earthquake
did a great deal of damage to the shops and
poor to her, the the twy brewy tower were still standing.

(01:13:04):
There was a corner owned up a while ago and
speed reinforced. So I would say that this is why
they've reinforced me the old toy Brewy. Yeah, I'll just try.

Speaker 3 (01:13:21):
It was a big quake. It was the nineteen thirty
four pay here to a earthquake stuck at eleven forty
six on the fifth of March. It was seven point six.
It was a big quake.

Speaker 2 (01:13:32):
It was I remember it because we got well, my
parents full, we out of bed and yeah, even though
I was any what five years of age, I remember that.
Well what was mos bigously Napier one, three or four

(01:13:56):
years earlier in Italy. But it did a lot of
bellage around the area. Fifth I think was the match.

Speaker 3 (01:14:05):
Yeah, match's right, you're seven point six. Two people died
with existing health problems and one person sustained injuries that
required hospitalization. Most of the damage that you've said was
at Pahia tour Where Gordon, where are you now? Are
you still that part of the country?

Speaker 2 (01:14:22):
Oh terrible, Okaw, nice to hear from you, but I
got to move on.

Speaker 3 (01:14:26):
But thank you for that call to know about that quake.
Found it very interesting. Laureate's Marcus welcome, Hi Marcus.

Speaker 26 (01:14:35):
Yeah, you can see the old fault line as it
runs towards the gorge. It's sort of quite obvious if
you're sort of flying around that area. But the one
of the heydays of recent times at Magazinoka. Don't I
recall there in the Super twelve rugby started. They had
the pre season game. I remember the Hurricanes and the

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Blues on a little panic there, massive crowds or you know,
I think, yes, maybe four or five thousand, I think,
but over to one of them.

Speaker 10 (01:15:07):
Yeah, it was.

Speaker 26 (01:15:07):
It was quite fun, but you know, pretty muddy affair.

Speaker 3 (01:15:11):
And it seems as how they could have made more
of the town because they've kind of let it. I
mean there's nothing there or the golf course looks quite
well established.

Speaker 26 (01:15:18):
Yeah, and people even from Parmigo and play golf. They
advertise it's on the radio occasionally and that's sort of
quite cheap to do around. It's yeah, no, it's.

Speaker 3 (01:15:31):
How far would that golf course be from Palmerston North
now that you've got would it be an hour?

Speaker 6 (01:15:37):
Yeah?

Speaker 26 (01:15:37):
I guess so muyby a bit less of going over
the pie to a track. It's sort of it's you
can work through there probably in less than that. Yeah,
maybe probably thirty forty minutes, I guess.

Speaker 3 (01:15:50):
Yeah, so actually is quite close.

Speaker 26 (01:15:53):
Yeah, And it's a nice call. And I'm not a golfer,
but you know, I hear feel a bit about it
from different nods and sots, but you know, it makes
it quite a good little round you and you're talking
about you know, what do you do between PI tour
and a Niki t tna. But they've really done up
the old visitor center there at Mount Bruce or Pouquet

(01:16:16):
Mount Bruce, the Kiwi house and all that sort of stuff.
And they get a lot of tourist buses, you know,
when they the passenger liners are in Wellington, you know,
they run buses up to that. It's especially actually especially
a couple of little white kiwis in there now.

Speaker 3 (01:16:34):
But oh it's impressive. They've got great birds. And when
I was there, I was blowing away by what was there.

Speaker 26 (01:16:40):
Yeah, and the feeding time with the carcass is pretty spectacular. Yeah, yeah,
I'm sort of. I find it quite a pleasant sort
of area to kick around through the tower. I've actually
got a couple of jobs to do over there coming
up too.

Speaker 3 (01:16:56):
But so just sorrow, just a question for me. You're
on the other side of the hell obviously, to the
other side of the terrors was two we always the
Beer of Choice and Palmerston and around there or was
it something else or.

Speaker 26 (01:17:10):
I wasn't uppy until the eighties. But you know with
all the students, you know, yeah, I mean the swapp
of create thing with the two he creates always seem
to be a pretty big deal.

Speaker 3 (01:17:22):
The two he was a student's beer, wasn't it was?
It was supported locally, wasn't.

Speaker 26 (01:17:26):
It that the fits it was it was the bar
of uh funny. They just pulling that down right now?
You know it's been that was sort of a legendary place. Yeah,
but what foots down?

Speaker 3 (01:17:40):
Did you say?

Speaker 26 (01:17:41):
Yeah, I think that's They've got to put the fences
up anyway. I think it's about to be, uh be demolished.
I think yeah, it's really Yeah, that's.

Speaker 3 (01:17:52):
Like one of the most famous pubs in the Has
it no longer been this jeo? I suppose students don't
run it? Look tell me about that.

Speaker 26 (01:17:58):
No, it's been closed up when it has hasn't been
open to the public for probably ten years. Yeah, but
I've been sitting there that you know, just grade lead
tear writing. But they look about it and you know,
sort of especially old students that come through town. I
think they're all sort of a visit by.

Speaker 3 (01:18:22):
So what's the student pop now in Palmerston?

Speaker 26 (01:18:24):
Laura, I don't I don't really know. I think they
move about a bit. Yeah, they're probably uh I'm guessing
really that you know, the sort of places like Rosio
Grady's and some of these other places that they seemed
to be shared around a wee bit.

Speaker 19 (01:18:45):
Yeah, the.

Speaker 26 (01:18:48):
It's no. I couldn't put a finger on it, you know,
just the young buggers. They sort of uh seen able
to have a lot of couch parties and some of
those flats and it still uh close to town.

Speaker 3 (01:19:04):
We'll find out, Laurie, thank you my good text. Marcus.
We're going to the night markets tomorrow at the Hornby Hub.
Would you please remind me of the name of the
food caravan lady who talked about thanks in advance, Cathy
at Sonya's gonna look hard for the sign Sonya's Soup.
Marcus always found interesting that Toy Brewery's location was because

(01:19:27):
Henry Wagstaff stopped on the banks of the Manga Tainoka
River and brewed a cup of tin. Amazed at how
good the water was, he didn't want to use the
water brew bear it was the one of the big
selling points. She clearly to he be no longer contains
that location's water, Alex Calvin, it's Marcus.

Speaker 27 (01:19:47):
Welcome, very good evening to your Marcus. I recall when
I was working for Wakatashay Metals taking galvanized ducting down
passed through Mangatsonoko. I can't recall that where I was going,
but that brewery is there. I seen her, remember. I
don't know if anybody's mentioned. I thought for while they
made leopid lager.

Speaker 3 (01:20:09):
It's a good point, okay. I always thought liquid leopid
lag was a white ketto thing.

Speaker 27 (01:20:14):
The lepid lag originally was was from Hastings lepid Lager.
Then they bought out there was lagger. Then they brought
out Leopid Paws, which was actually sort of like a beer.
It was a different cairn and they had black leopid
paws going up the side of it. But I'm pretty
sure that I don't know what happened with the napier
or part of it, or Hastings wherever it was, but

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I'm sure that when I was going past, they had
Leopid Lagger.

Speaker 3 (01:20:41):
Probably because Tony Doe our us reader, he was in
a band. He went there because they used to make
tenants Bear, a British beer they'd make that there on
on agreement.

Speaker 27 (01:20:51):
Okay, yes, and nobody else has mentioned at Mangatanoka. I'd
like you to I'd like you to push for magic
buttons and find out about that.

Speaker 3 (01:21:01):
Yeah, well, push the magic. Did you find that you've
been to Hobbiton Kelvin.

Speaker 27 (01:21:05):
No, I don't go to those sort of places.

Speaker 3 (01:21:08):
How would you know what sort of place there? I
haven't been there.

Speaker 27 (01:21:12):
I've been out near there to the Crystal hot Water
springs and the Opal Springs had a matter matter.

Speaker 3 (01:21:21):
Okay that I just don't ask about hobit On Calvin,
but thank you will find about Leopard Lagat. Jared Marcus, Welcome.

Speaker 7 (01:21:30):
Hi Marcus.

Speaker 20 (01:21:31):
How are you good?

Speaker 6 (01:21:32):
Jed?

Speaker 7 (01:21:34):
I just remember going back. My dad was born in nineteen.

Speaker 8 (01:21:38):
Thirty nine and came off farms.

Speaker 7 (01:21:41):
But the shearers used to drink to eat because I
had no editance in it, and so they could you know,
they're out in the shearing shed or stuff, and they
could have a few beers and not get a bloody,
great bigger hangover in the morning.

Speaker 3 (01:21:54):
Oh okay, that was it. That was its selling point,
that you could go it wouldn't feel crooked the next day.

Speaker 17 (01:22:01):
Yeah.

Speaker 7 (01:22:02):
Well, it was this is going back a few years.
This in the sixties and seventies makes sense, but yep.
And there was always a story that the water comes
out of the Mangatoe to Note river, but there's a
there's a cemetery up the upstream too, And I was
always told that it was it was a good beer

(01:22:22):
because it had good body to it. And I swear
that we were still drinking the stuff that was made
in Manga to Note because they were making I think
they make the kegs and the court bottles and Munga
tonokee up for about fifteen years ago.

Speaker 10 (01:22:37):
Yep.

Speaker 7 (01:22:38):
And they made the stubbies and the cans in Auckland,
and there was a totally different taste to it. And
so it was a sad day when twy went.

Speaker 3 (01:22:46):
And if you've always been quite a loyal to we drinker.

Speaker 7 (01:22:50):
Yet No, I'll really drink what anyone else is buying. Okay, no,
quite happy drink. It's a really good summer just a
refreshing beer and it hasn't a huge amount of Oh,
I don't know. If you look for something a bit different,
that's not it. But in the middle of summer and
you're hosh and that just quenches the thirst and fixes up.

(01:23:11):
And just to go back to the Leopard thing, Leopard
was owned by Lyon, so Leopard was only ever made
in Hastings. It was never made because Mungaton note was
brought out by DBB. Yeah, so Leopard and the Gentleman
was correct. I don't know about them making tet lest
but they made whipbread there for all.

Speaker 3 (01:23:31):
He said Tenants I think was the name, not tenants.

Speaker 7 (01:23:36):
Now that they I know they did make whipbread there
at the Leopard Brewery and Hastings for a while.

Speaker 3 (01:23:42):
Okay, I reckon a lot of people seem to drink corona,
you see that Would that be a stepping into the
toy market?

Speaker 7 (01:23:52):
Would it shouldn't be? Really?

Speaker 3 (01:23:55):
Well, it's sort of.

Speaker 7 (01:23:57):
It's just it's a pretty basic draft or they call
it an Indian pale ale, but it's like a a
bit like a British draft with a bit of It's
Corona is meant to be well. I thought they market
corona's being sophisticated, don't they. Oh?

Speaker 3 (01:24:13):
Okay, but I mean there's not much too it is there.
It's it's an easy drink in the summer, isn't it.

Speaker 7 (01:24:19):
Yeah, yeah, for sure, Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:24:22):
Okay, nice to hear from you. Jid, thank you Marcus.
The really old fellow that called about the toe towers
still staff. The quake must be about ninety six. I
hope he makes it to one hundred standard beer and
Palmerston North up to the fifties. Leopard Bear Hawkes Bay

(01:24:45):
toy Bear only became widespread when purchased by dB from
Auckland year. What year was that, Marcus tooy bear would
have to be the vilest al ever invented? Who on
earth couldn't buy this? Tell me please lost in time
lost and taste craft beer for me. Gazz the twist.

(01:25:06):
He's had trivia questions and answers under the capital. I
still have this. The more we drunk, the smarter we get.
Cheers Hayden. All very good texts. I'm liking them a lot.
It's all about two we bear tonight and that's a
topic from the God don't even know we're going to
talk about. That has been fantastic, Yeah, Todd, Marcus, welcome,
good evening.

Speaker 12 (01:25:28):
By And Marcus, I just just tuned in and heard
you're talking about the bears of days gone by, and
I just suddenly remembered ten. It was around the time
that the movie came out with Bo Derek, and I was, well,
we're about the sixteen and you know every time someone
at a party it would be a creat of ten.
And we actually met someone from dB Brewery's and he

(01:25:51):
said that it was marketed at the underage drinking market
because of the fact of both Derek and all it
was was TV was a label on it called ten.
I don't know if you remember.

Speaker 3 (01:26:01):
It Score Yourself at ten.

Speaker 12 (01:26:05):
Yep, that's I think that was the marketing.

Speaker 3 (01:26:08):
What I'm saying, Yeah, it was yourself a ten.

Speaker 12 (01:26:12):
That's right.

Speaker 7 (01:26:13):
That brings it all back to me.

Speaker 12 (01:26:14):
And I tell you what, the marketing was good for
young young men of fifteen sixteen that should have been drinking.
I mean, we were all obsessed with Bo Derek and
the beer just it was very clever, but it was
we were told it was actually marketed, which is pretty
bad for the under Well it was twenty five then,
which was a bit silly anyway. But yeah, it was
an interesting one. It didn't last that long.

Speaker 3 (01:26:35):
I don't think I've almost can visualized I can almost
visualize the beer.

Speaker 12 (01:26:39):
Can Yeah, I can see the bottles, the old the
old crates, you know, the big brown bottles, and that
had I think it was green green.

Speaker 3 (01:26:49):
I'm thinking, I'm thinking, I'm thinking strong green and blue.
That seems to be what I can see. I can't
anything straight away online. Was it dB? Did you say dB?

Speaker 12 (01:27:00):
I'm pretty sure TV brought it out because I remember
we met some marketing guys to he can test, but
they had targeted very much to the underage drinking market.

Speaker 7 (01:27:14):
I mean.

Speaker 12 (01:27:16):
There was nothing flash of that a DV and and
just the outing. You mentioned Corona. I've think that Mexico
quite a few times, quite a fan of it. And
I remember about the second time I'm there, I asked
for Corona and they just laughed. They said, we don't
think that muck. We made that the American market, and
they you can't buy corona in Mexico. It's it's in fact,

(01:27:39):
I've got two very good beers at the one Awards
called Takati and Dos Equis and is quite yeah, and
to Katy is a nice bear as well. But you know,
it was interesting they made the Corona for the the
American market and they did well. I mean, it's you know,

(01:28:00):
very very well publicized and another one I remember which
after I came back from the UK and the eighteen
couldn't rink it, but we used to drink it was rhynick. Yes,
when I came back after drinking the European argues that
might drinking water. It was quite interesting how you taste change.
I guess you'd get older as well.

Speaker 3 (01:28:20):
You're in London? Are you buying tickets to Oasis?

Speaker 10 (01:28:24):
Oh?

Speaker 12 (01:28:24):
I think it will be impossible, Marcus. I mean they
come out on Saturday. I mean I have a shot.
So the word here is they think this is just
a start, and they're just they reckon. They're going to
add more to Wembley and more concerts, probably to Manschos
down and then they're going to go worldwide in European
they think. But that's let's just stay friends. After the
first sponsor.

Speaker 3 (01:28:46):
On the line, would you There's been some very funny
comments from people saying, you know, people there forties saying
you know, I've been not missed out to sort of
a nineteen year old with a selfie stick that just
you know, listen to underwall. People are kind of people
have people think very much that that the young people
shouldn't buy the tickets. They should just stand aside for
those that need them. But interesting enough, when they played

(01:29:08):
Knebworth or something or one of the last concerts in
ninety seven, tickets were fifteen pounds.

Speaker 12 (01:29:15):
Yeah, I know, it's just ridiculously now. I was going
to go see Springsteen last minute. It was the tickets
and even for restrictive beauty side view, still hundred and
twenty pounds. I just thought, you know what, I've seen
him twice. I just can't can't be doing it. And
just recently I went into a Knickelbacker the two and
I bought them resale tickets. But the guy that reseled

(01:29:36):
me to him, he didn't tell me that there was
a massive speaker in front of the screen and all
I music and I love Knickelback. And I left before
the end, and here's the goals next to me, held.

Speaker 3 (01:29:52):
Good story, Todd, Thank you Nickelback, Ralph, It's Marcus. Welcome,
but good.

Speaker 16 (01:29:59):
Evening, Marcus. I was just about going to sleep living
to the music here. Years ago, I I was in
the Himmatany Surf Club and for a while a year
or so we went every Friday to make it Tonoka
and we drank as much beer as we wanted it

(01:30:19):
around about three to five o'clock, I think. But in
those days they had Ryan Neck, they had several brands
of beer that that wasn't just available in Woodville or
Farmerston North.

Speaker 7 (01:30:34):
It was City Beer.

Speaker 16 (01:30:36):
And yeah, I was amazed at how much beer they
actually put out in that place. That standard in my
man Gettnoko and it was a fun place to be.

Speaker 3 (01:30:47):
Actually did they just give you beer because you were lifesavers?

Speaker 16 (01:30:53):
Look, it was some tie up with the breweries and
the club would drink beer on on the weekends or something.
But I really don't know the ins and outs of it.
But I wasn't a club. It was the Hammatangi Club.
But we were all the older members and me had
what we called Lose Lose Lose patrol, and we were

(01:31:16):
all much older guys. We didn't get into too much trouble.
Of course, we knew how to drink it at beer,
of course, but we would have a big bar whichhre
on a Sunday night and had our own chef and
and some of the guys that worked at the works
bring their game boots and we had lovely misteaks and
all sorts of stuff there in those days. But that

(01:31:37):
was New Zealand wide. I think in those days that.

Speaker 3 (01:31:40):
Was the set up. Did they have a bar as
part of the brewery.

Speaker 16 (01:31:44):
No, no, no, no, no, this was just a private
house right right on the beach there.

Speaker 3 (01:31:50):
But oh no, no, I thought you said you went
to Mangettanoka and drank there.

Speaker 16 (01:31:56):
Yes, we did, we did.

Speaker 17 (01:31:57):
Ye.

Speaker 3 (01:31:58):
Did they have a did they have a Did they
have a bar set up inside the brewery?

Speaker 10 (01:32:04):
Oh?

Speaker 16 (01:32:04):
Yes, yes, yes they had a very sense of set
up there and they could have handled probably fifty thousand people.
But we were there on a Friday.

Speaker 3 (01:32:15):
But it wasn't it wasn't a put It was just
set up for entertaining clients. Is that right?

Speaker 7 (01:32:20):
Well, yeah we were.

Speaker 20 (01:32:21):
We really weren't even clients. We were somehow in the no.

Speaker 3 (01:32:25):
And yeah, I'm just trying. I'm just trying. I'm just
trying to work out where in that building that.

Speaker 16 (01:32:29):
Was or it was downstairs in the building I think
it was. It was quite a big building actually from memory.
And they had another standard brewery in Pharmaston North, although
we only went there a couple of times.

Speaker 3 (01:32:44):
They didn't know that brewed and Parmerston North as well.

Speaker 16 (01:32:48):
It was in Feediston Street. Obvious it boys high Okay.
They had quite a small building. There was a great
big copper.

Speaker 3 (01:32:54):
Vac in it and that was two years Well oh.

Speaker 16 (01:32:59):
Look no, I don't know. It's probably Standard was the
main one, okay, and then they had and all those
other ones that they made, you know, under different labels,
and it was quite a popular The Rheinick was cert
there popular bear they were getting like at the Steine
and the German names and things like that in those days.

Speaker 3 (01:33:22):
Nice to talk, Ralph, Thanks very much for that eight
hundred and eighty ten eight. Someone says any product recalls
always the Hummus Marcus Featherston Street and Palmerston was the
multi story line brown building pulled down opposite boys had
about ninety two ninety three. Barry says what Rheinick was

(01:33:43):
a white Kato Breweries product. Leopard was delivered to Orchand
by stainless tangers from Hastings. Early can beer included dB
brown and steel can with a steel can. Don't believer
types supply with a dozen back?

Speaker 13 (01:33:55):
Did they know?

Speaker 3 (01:33:56):
Christ Church brewed wards in the fifties. Marcus a kid
growing up and pay here tour. Remember the brewery getting
water from the river they said, had pretty of body
streamed from the downstream from the Toky Cemetery. John AT's
Marcus good evening.

Speaker 22 (01:34:15):
Yeah, look John John here from Palms to North. That
chapter from the Surf Club at him and Pangy Blues Patrol.
I drink with Lou at a pub and Paris the
North now, oh god, and the Towey Brewery when I
was born in the Second World War. But what I'm

(01:34:39):
saying about the first toy products we used to drink
here were in flaggings and they had a burnt like
a bird wood taste to it. Because we had two
breweries in Parmerston in Burgason Street you had burtons Bury

(01:34:59):
and you had that one by Boys High School was
the Standard Brewery and that was brought out by Lyon
later on, and as apprentice boy, I used to do
work at the Standard brewery. Look, I was only sixteen
and they had two Cochrane vertical boilers. The baller stood

(01:35:21):
on end and in the afternoon smoko that was beer.
You drunk beer the afternoon smoco and I'd be sitting
in there grinding valves, grinding valves and that kind of
big valves valves in and with a few beers on me.
And as for the tilly Bury I used to do,

(01:35:44):
I was a machine shop forming at Tyler and Andrews
and we used to do a lot of work for
the fitters over there. And I went around the place
with the engineer guy who brought our work over. There
was a massive warehouse there. There was a big room

(01:36:05):
and they were doing this popper crate bottles and they
were very worried because they had to have that big
warehouse full of empty cord bottles. But they relied on
the people bringing their bottles to ABC. They had to

(01:36:26):
full that room up by labor weekend because they're in
trouble if they have empty bottles, because if they didn't
have them there by then they wouldn't have They had
to make the beer for Christmas. Yeah, and so it
was a nice beer. And when Standardbury went to Lieon,

(01:36:52):
that was pulled down and the Paler and Andrews, who
I said to be tired with and that they built
the cow there and there was a spiral staircase in it.
And I work with the Dutchman Harry Tammer was his name.
He came to New Zealand from Holland in nineteen fifty two.

(01:37:13):
He was the man that made their big steel spiral staircase.
And they were good days.

Speaker 3 (01:37:21):
And you've got good pubs in Palmerston, North John Now
to go.

Speaker 22 (01:37:24):
To well I drinking a little sportsman spa and that's
where lou Blue. I better not tell you of his
last name, but oh yeah, that's just in Featherston Street,
opposite Countdown. Oh well, we'll see. I'm eighty now, but
that's where I drink. But yeah, we'll see. We've lost

(01:37:46):
a few pubs. And as for the fits, yes they
are knocking that over. And we lost the Cloverly Hotel
that burnt down about six months.

Speaker 3 (01:37:59):
I remember that that was been news because it was
a very popular pub.

Speaker 22 (01:38:03):
Yes, and I'll tell you what happened there. The boys
that drank beer. There was a lady on the machine,
so when the fire come along, they had to drag
her out because she had still had money on the machine.

Speaker 3 (01:38:18):
She probably on a winning.

Speaker 22 (01:38:20):
Streak, was killed and they dragged opposite. It appears they
say there was no earth on power supply to that
that pub, and they reckon it just blew the cable
all the way out to the road to where the

(01:38:41):
power sauce come came into the hotel. Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:38:49):
Well, oh well, nice to hear from you, John, Thank
you for that. Rose Ats Marcus, welcome.

Speaker 28 (01:38:56):
Are you asking about the Dougly Arms. Yes, it's still there.
It's been rebuilt by some people.

Speaker 3 (01:39:03):
Okay, tell me about that. So that that tiction in
that section and Mango Tonoka.

Speaker 28 (01:39:08):
Is it on the main state too, on the corner
of Mangetoku Street West?

Speaker 3 (01:39:13):
Okay? So is it actually in the town.

Speaker 28 (01:39:19):
It's sort of the town. Yes, I'm going to have
to drive past it tomorrow.

Speaker 3 (01:39:24):
Okay, we're going where.

Speaker 28 (01:39:27):
I might head down to park.

Speaker 3 (01:39:30):
You're just cutting in and out.

Speaker 28 (01:39:34):
Oh sorry, I'll hit out. I'll come out at the
main road behind Tory Brewery. I'll hip down to the
pie tour and then come up and come into Woodville
and go in off the main road just north of
that to come home.

Speaker 3 (01:39:46):
Okay, So where exactly is Dudley Arms?

Speaker 11 (01:39:49):
Rose?

Speaker 28 (01:39:49):
Right, have you got a map Apple Maps?

Speaker 18 (01:39:52):
Yes?

Speaker 28 (01:39:54):
Right, Manga Snoku Street West. Go from the Tory.

Speaker 3 (01:39:56):
Brewery, go north past the golf course.

Speaker 28 (01:40:00):
No, no, come back?

Speaker 10 (01:40:05):
Sure?

Speaker 3 (01:40:05):
How far back?

Speaker 28 (01:40:10):
Two interceptions before the school, between the school and the
golf course north.

Speaker 3 (01:40:17):
It's kind of quite hard for me to find on
the map. I don't know why it keeps coming up
one in England, but.

Speaker 6 (01:40:22):
Which I don't really want.

Speaker 3 (01:40:25):
I have got. I've got apples, meppers, but I've got
I've got a map.

Speaker 29 (01:40:31):
Right.

Speaker 3 (01:40:33):
Is it still it's called it's called the Dudley Arms though,
is it?

Speaker 28 (01:40:36):
It's got the name on it. He's been doing it up.

Speaker 3 (01:40:42):
I kind of a work out. Well, I can see
where the brewery is, and you go across the river
north yes, yes, and then and then you come up
to Marcouri Road. Does it passed there?

Speaker 28 (01:40:57):
Yes, it's what's on the left hand side, and there's
just past Menoka.

Speaker 3 (01:41:01):
Street West and I found a hall. I've found the
Manga Tincal Hall. It's not there, just.

Speaker 28 (01:41:11):
Past the hall a bit more, is it?

Speaker 29 (01:41:16):
Yep?

Speaker 28 (01:41:18):
I don't know what I think he's building it. It's
been real building it the old timber At one stage
he was it was.

Speaker 3 (01:41:24):
On a corner, yes, Mango Tonoka Street West. Yes, terrible?
Oh yeah, okay, so's it's a double story green building
with a brander.

Speaker 19 (01:41:42):
Yes, yeah, nice.

Speaker 3 (01:41:45):
It looks very empty on Google Maps. Looks like there's
nothing there. There's no it's got no sign on it.

Speaker 15 (01:41:52):
Oh hes now it's okay.

Speaker 28 (01:41:55):
Yes, now, I've even brought out the manga Snoca book out.

Speaker 3 (01:42:01):
It says four years ago napi're born, Dean McCrae discovered
the Dudley Arms Hotel for stale and Mangi Tonoka. Yeah,
it looks like it's taken him all as four years
to do it up.

Speaker 29 (01:42:13):
Oh, yes, he's doing it slowly.

Speaker 3 (01:42:16):
Let's he's doing it really slowly?

Speaker 28 (01:42:19):
Yep, yes, well yes, so it.

Speaker 3 (01:42:22):
Open for business now is it?

Speaker 28 (01:42:24):
I don't think so. I think it's more a house.
I don't know what he's doing with it. Was David
Crue the pair to a businessman. Except attendance for the
building of the club. It was built for him along
with Yes.

Speaker 3 (01:42:37):
Okay, why it's say as you can book a.

Speaker 11 (01:42:40):
Table, okay, miss try it out.

Speaker 3 (01:42:44):
It must have tried out right, okay, nice to talk
to you.

Speaker 17 (01:42:47):
Thank you.

Speaker 3 (01:42:48):
I've liked that. Phillips Marcus welcome.

Speaker 10 (01:42:51):
Good here you go, good Phil, thank you. The old
manga Tonoka here Dudley Arms on the corner there. The
guy's done on labor of love he pulled all the
cleaning off and completely refurbished it on the inside and
cleaning off and on, and it looks really nice there.
It's a big house.

Speaker 3 (01:43:11):
It's it's not open as a business year.

Speaker 10 (01:43:14):
No, No, it's just just a private house. It looks
really good. It was some talk that they should have
actually shifted it when it closed down to the brewery
itself and would have been a feature of accommodation. They
missed that opportunity. I think there was sudden thing lacking
with the DV Brewer's management because they looked like I've

(01:43:39):
been to the uh the Guinness factory that gets five
thousand people a day going through it, and they could
have done the same thing at Mega Taneka.

Speaker 3 (01:43:49):
And not only would you buy not only would you
buy beer, but people, young men particularly, they have incredible
loyalty to the beer. So they go there. They buy
a hat, they buy a T shirt, they buy a
pat case, they buy a do they cover, they buy
the lot. People love it.

Speaker 10 (01:44:03):
It's me I got the very last to be known
back a few weeks ago. That was the one on
display because I didn't think I had it in my collection,
but I did, so I've got that sitting as a
present to somebody else, and I already bought one from
my brother and I took it to his sixtieth birthday
in Australia.

Speaker 3 (01:44:22):
Okay with the twy names. Were the towy names quite
a big thing, were they?

Speaker 6 (01:44:26):
Oh?

Speaker 10 (01:44:26):
Yeah, the fantastic got about three or four of them,
and the twoy tear when they were underpinning it, because
it's this historic monument. You can still see my survey
marks right at the top of the tear because we
had to make sure that the tear wasn't leaning over,
and they never never bothered taking them there. And so

(01:44:47):
you have a look at these little white rulers stuck
on the four corners of the tear, just to make
sure it didn't fall over.

Speaker 3 (01:44:53):
What would you do that with the old lights or
how'd you do that?

Speaker 13 (01:44:56):
Yep?

Speaker 10 (01:44:56):
Yeah, that's the anyway where you can get a knuckle
boom and you go up there, it's twenty meters up
in the air and just fix the rulers to the
corners of the building and at the top of the
bottom you just go back and just measure it to
make sure that it's not tilting forwards backwards in and out.
It's a really simple way of doing it. But the

(01:45:18):
the caf, the restaurant there is still going and yeah
it gets a lot of activities. It's scott but.

Speaker 3 (01:45:28):
Still hear me out right, if the locals here the
two is going to be made in Auckland, they're going
to stop drinking it, aren't they. So it's a downward
spiral from here.

Speaker 10 (01:45:39):
It's already falling out of favor.

Speaker 3 (01:45:42):
Yeah, exactly.

Speaker 10 (01:45:43):
There's a several pubs and Palmerston Wolfs that no longer
carry it because people just aren't drinking it. And it's
been popular for a long time, and way before it
became popular, it was a really local iconic beer they
used to have around the ranges really back in the
sixties and seventies and the first Team pub First Team

(01:46:06):
Past the Manga Tanaka Pub got a creative two beer
as one of the prizes, and there's lots of pubs
around that used to carry it. And you had the
iconic year right signs that's right, including one halfway up
the deviation out of TYPEE. And when our daughter got married,

(01:46:31):
I actually made up three signs and put them on
the road to the to the wedding venue. And they
thought it was a little serious until they actually read
the signs, probably like the wedding won't cost you anything
dead and you got the year right, and this wedding
is alcohol free soul.

Speaker 3 (01:46:53):
Could I could take some more? I won't say them.

Speaker 10 (01:46:57):
We've worked there really good, but it's a shame that
that it's found down. And the Lion Brewery and Paliston
North on the corner of Carroll Street and Featherston Street. Uh,
they got knocked down in the early nineties. And ironically
that's where my in laws bought a brand new house
and lived there until they died. And there was a

(01:47:17):
bunch of that sixteen units.

Speaker 3 (01:47:23):
These and Taveston als that have given up on the toy.
What are they putting in Steed?

Speaker 10 (01:47:28):
Oh that's gone to more sort of craft beers.

Speaker 3 (01:47:31):
Oh yeah, craft beer.

Speaker 10 (01:47:34):
It's just one of those things that change in drinking styles.
So and we've got all the big booze fans that
basically shut down.

Speaker 3 (01:47:46):
Could you still get a jugger toy anywhere?

Speaker 27 (01:47:49):
Oh?

Speaker 10 (01:47:50):
You didn't get a jug of toy at the Masonic?

Speaker 3 (01:47:56):
How much of that costure?

Speaker 17 (01:47:59):
Oh?

Speaker 10 (01:47:59):
I don't know, because I boy handles. I don't buy.

Speaker 3 (01:48:01):
Jakes you must see ten dollars ten dollars for no
for a handles for a handle.

Speaker 10 (01:48:10):
Yep, it's it's reasonably priced. So it depends on the
place to go to. And you've got big pubs and
all the main pubs that I was was a kid
growing up of all gone. The Keft Perry burnt down
a few years ago, the play the coverd League haven't
burnt down recently, the knockdown the Sherbert Hotel that's been

(01:48:37):
knocked down and replaced for more to ten. The Magic
Stick in preservative that's gone and got replaced by Kmart
years ago.

Speaker 3 (01:48:47):
Was it called the magic called the Magic Was it
called when I got through the mall? Was it called
the Magic Stick?

Speaker 7 (01:48:53):
Now?

Speaker 10 (01:48:53):
Majestic?

Speaker 3 (01:48:54):
But everyone, oh, that's quite good. I love a love
of public now that's one of my favorite thing, the
Magic Stick. That's great.

Speaker 10 (01:49:01):
And you see pubs like the album. There's a shadow
of it's form itself. A Willow Park which used to
be called the Line teven just a shadow of its
former self. It's a change in culture from the big
booze bans in the seventies in the eighties down to
more smaller pubs. The way I go where do you drink?

Speaker 3 (01:49:21):
Now?

Speaker 10 (01:49:22):
Fell massnic on a Friday and on the Thursday down
at the Cob which is the old Empire teven on
the corner of Main Street and Princess Street, big old
two story building. There's still it's quite a good good scene.
There is actually two groups of people that see the

(01:49:45):
drink us. Old fellas sort of finish up around seven o'clock,
eight o'clock and then you start getting the younger crowd coming.

Speaker 3 (01:49:52):
Where did the students drink now? The fits her of
it's gone.

Speaker 10 (01:49:56):
I don't really know, of course, some of the two
generations away from that, Yeah, but.

Speaker 3 (01:50:00):
We'd see them wandering around somewhere.

Speaker 10 (01:50:05):
A lot of them drink more than you know, drinks
at home. And he's still got the student area down
on Ferguson Street. But it's it's not really the big
boost barans. You know. The fits was was the main
thing that was great, but of course that's long long gone.

Speaker 3 (01:50:24):
Yeah, apparently we hear that. I'm going to run for
a bit. Nice to hear for you. Thank you for
the magic stick. I've loved that it's made Midnight Chuck
ITTs Marcus good evening.

Speaker 5 (01:50:33):
Well good at Marcus go enjoying your show. Mate, you're
right in my wheelhouse here about Mangus and notes great spot.
Only been here a couple of times, mate, But I
watched that rugby game the guy was talking about earlier
on seven or eight thousand people there from Wellington and Auckland.

(01:50:54):
And there were no Nike shoes worn that day. Mate,
was already being gum boots. And you know people pushing
cars there, doing this, doing that. Brilliant And a great
golf course there, lovely golf course, but you don't look
play it on these don't play in the autumn, mate,
because you never find your ball when all the leaves

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drop off those trays. You've got no show.

Speaker 3 (01:51:20):
Okay, good good information, thank you.

Speaker 5 (01:51:23):
And and the dove of the arms that lady tried
to round the voice crying and explain where it was.
It's right opposite about the tense hole on the on
the golf course.

Speaker 3 (01:51:36):
It's a good description.

Speaker 5 (01:51:40):
Very sad to make. All these things are closing, ain't well?

Speaker 3 (01:51:45):
Yeah, well have you stopped going to pubs?

Speaker 5 (01:51:48):
I've got no pub to go to.

Speaker 3 (01:51:50):
Where are you?

Speaker 5 (01:51:53):
I'm an awsword?

Speaker 3 (01:51:56):
Just close it? Didn't they were they going to turn
into a Guestro pub or something.

Speaker 5 (01:52:00):
No, it was if it's a no going now apparently, So.

Speaker 3 (01:52:06):
Where are you drinking? I'm not, Oh, for goodness, you'll
be thirsty?

Speaker 5 (01:52:13):
Yes, okay, Well I lived in Terrodale, right, and they
closed the Green Meadows Pub down. There was a great
little pub that's become a supermarket, a new real supermarket.
And they closed the Terridale Pub down which is now
McDonald's shippers.

Speaker 3 (01:52:35):
So where's your closest where's your closest pub?

Speaker 5 (01:52:41):
Or the Black Dog got macrudito all right, but that's yeah, okay,
well that's not too far from here, Like I'm not
going to drive into town to Danny Verke or a
white part from here to have a beer, have one
beer and other limit?

Speaker 3 (01:52:59):
Is it going alright? The reopening of the The Black
Dog and Makatuku.

Speaker 5 (01:53:03):
Oh, it's huge mates a gold mine, is it? There's
more people out there from Nords. It's only open on
a Friday Saturday Sunday from like twelve to about eight
or something.

Speaker 3 (01:53:19):
But it's is it like is it like a bikes pub?

Speaker 5 (01:53:24):
It's a bikes pub, but not a you know, he
head handles or mung and mob just guys come along
Anoi and they just go for a rider on Sunday
and go and they never have a beer. And it's
a great spot any no, make no, beautiful great spot.

Speaker 3 (01:53:45):
Oh good on? Yeah, okay, So that is it your
local yep?

Speaker 5 (01:53:50):
And that's well, you know, Hormville. You've been normal, you
said yep, because you're a train spot.

Speaker 3 (01:53:56):
Just don't call me a train spot. But yeah, okay.

Speaker 5 (01:54:03):
And there's another little pub when you go from here
to Napier at Highway fifty. He've got the main road
through White Park and White Power on that. But you
can go up high fifty and another little birds are
there called the Cook and Philly that's closed down as well.

Speaker 6 (01:54:21):
What's it called the Cook and Philly?

Speaker 3 (01:54:25):
Terrible name? The Surprise that's closed? Where was that?

Speaker 5 (01:54:29):
Okay, we have a good night.

Speaker 3 (01:54:32):
Where was the Chuck and Philly chub? It's gone? Twenty
five past Alex Marcus welcome, Oh hi Marcus.

Speaker 6 (01:54:40):
Can I can just say a few words please? Yes,
it's regarding Dominion Breweries and Sir Henry Tallaha. I started
a carpet of all things, the carpentry apprenticeship at nineteen
sixty one at Dominion breweries over Who Who to where
there was a big workforce and developing carpenters, painters, electricians, welders, blacksmiths.

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But the biggest thing that's happened while I was there
was a continuous fermentation of beer to where they got
the will Peyton rights and through Morton Coot's the brewer
head Brewer and his history. Basically I understand he was

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a young man and from Dunedin who went to the
First World War, and I heard that he made a
lot of money gambling on one way or another, and
then he came back and fell in the early twenties
and financed the brewery there. But I have seen pictures
many photos are the only people in the early twenties

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all protesting. They did not want a brewery in over Who. However,
Sir Henry upgraded.

Speaker 2 (01:55:54):
They got the.

Speaker 6 (01:55:55):
Continual in face pertation. And then he got into upgrading
hotels and most of the bars in New Zealand the
Liner and that he bought carpeting and upgraded. The first
hotel was Debrett and then he went from the Ponsanby
Club and all around the Dominion brewery hotels with carpet,
and then it was interesting. He actually owned the dors

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And Printing Company in Newmarket, which was a high quality
magazine they put out. And then he one of the
biggest things. He brought an Australian war artist, Buckmaster, into
New Zealand and we set him up over in Devonport
and he went throughout New Zealand and doing landscape scenes

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and I ended up and hanging a lot of those
in the hotels. And as I say, he upgraded the
hotels and then the round and changed things in many
different ways. And then when I finished my iventure business
on my own, I actually built a farmhouse for m

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and took a tu to Ireland, and there's an interesting
subject there. He had about three mountains on packetud of
Islands and then most of the scoria nearly I would
say nearly one hundred percent of the story it came
off one of those mountains, and it was for the airport,
for the base for the airport, and then when they

(01:57:23):
got through the story, they struck blue metal, so then
they they the concrete for the airport. Auckland Airport came
from there. He was very upset when the oxidation ponds
for Auckland were supposed to be off Music Point and
then they came over to they came off took a

(01:57:47):
true to island. There's sewerage, oxidation ponds, so that upset
him greatly, but he was a wonderful man. When the
house that I built from unpooktu to Island, he insisted
all the timber come from the trees that he planted
way Bay back in time. So there was a saw mill,

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set up a treatment plant and as I say, I
built this house and I remember building that house, there
was a famous rasource and the paddock next to us
was called Cardigan Bay.

Speaker 3 (01:58:23):
It's buried.

Speaker 6 (01:58:24):
Yeah, that's right, it's there, just last days there, yes,
So yeah, and I'm thankful he helped me in other
different ways, Sir Henry, and I'll leave it with that pasemarket.

Speaker 3 (01:58:37):
It's interesting what you say there, Alex, because I've read
his order, I've read his biography and I've also read
a history of Pooka Tutu Island, so I know a
bit about that from both angles there.

Speaker 6 (01:58:47):
So yeah, I've said I've actually drawn a plan out
to delivered to the government and went the council. I've
been thankful, but I believed the ports of Auckland should
be off Poka Tudu Island. I've driven, I did Pietus
study on it all. And the channel comes through to

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the and the barge system basically operates from Hamilton's to
wong Array and there was after the war were during
the war, the Second World War, the Americans wanted to
make an airport on the east side of Many Bridge,
and I still think that should have been the airport,
and the check tonell should have always gone through and

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the barge take a lot of trucks off the road
and then we can go on and on. I this Marcus,
thanks for your time.

Speaker 3 (01:59:42):
Lovely to hear from you. Alex. Good evening, it's Marcus. Welcome.

Speaker 29 (01:59:47):
Yeah, I Marcus, listen. I'm sitting here holding a two
he can via thing. But it's been run over by
a car. I got it that was flattened that somebody
had put it on the bottom of the car, so
put it in the back of the car and I've

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hit it for a couple of years. But it's not
a very old cane. Even though it's all crumpled up
that I can still I can still read the code
on it, and I could read that out to you.
But there's the other thing that and treat me is
that why it's not very old. Is it's got here

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that do not drink this if you are a lady
impregnant because it could harm your baby. Yeah, that's that
sort of message. Wouldn't be along the cones for very long,
would they on these these their.

Speaker 21 (02:00:45):
Canes beg your pardon.

Speaker 29 (02:00:48):
That sort of message going out to pregnant ladies not
to drink it or be careful when they drink it.
The message wouldn't have been on very long on these canes,
would or any cane which makes me think it's not
very old.

Speaker 3 (02:01:03):
No, I don't know know that would be on there
for the last twenty years or something.

Speaker 29 (02:01:06):
I mean, oh you reckon? Okay, then he's got a
photo of the towey here and all the restaurants I
just wanted with anyone else had any canes with the
toe on.

Speaker 3 (02:01:19):
It, so hang on, so somewhe'd run over the car
the can is the beer in it? No? Empty?

Speaker 17 (02:01:25):
No?

Speaker 29 (02:01:25):
No, it seemply as flat and flat flat airs?

Speaker 3 (02:01:28):
Are you just held on to it? Suns?

Speaker 29 (02:01:31):
Yeah? Somebody had somebody in the car park picked the
flat cane up and put it on the bottle of
my car when I come back to my car after
being doing me shopping, was sitting on my bottot. So
I just threw it in the car and thought of,
look at that when I get home. And that's a
couple of years ago.

Speaker 3 (02:01:50):
There have they never tried to eat beer here?

Speaker 29 (02:01:54):
I have here, yeah, but i'd only hear the drink
it and bottles.

Speaker 3 (02:01:57):
Yeah, oh yeah, okay.

Speaker 29 (02:02:00):
I've never had it in the can. So that's why
I was intrigued out this can. I thought, you know,
I could have just thrown it away, but I'm looking
ahead here there. Uh, that's just sort of to bring
you up the scene. I've got the King and he
is looking at it.

Speaker 3 (02:02:18):
Nice to hear from you now, I appreciate It's nice
to you do theater of the mind stuff with what
you're holding in there. I like that a lot.

Speaker 13 (02:02:23):
Hello Shendon, Hey the Marcus here again.

Speaker 3 (02:02:27):
Good Shannon, thank.

Speaker 13 (02:02:28):
You you received me loud and clear.

Speaker 3 (02:02:31):
Receiving a loud and clear shennon, not good to hear.

Speaker 13 (02:02:35):
I've just got a couple of pubs in Christ's. It
used to be quite good ones in the day. To
let you know about that's now gone under the old
Boston pub that goes back to the eight and eighties.

Speaker 3 (02:02:46):
Is it gone?

Speaker 13 (02:02:48):
Let's go on. Now, let's turned into n PD.

Speaker 3 (02:02:53):
You know what is it like electronics?

Speaker 13 (02:02:55):
No MPD is Nelson Nelson Batrolium. It's turned into they're
taking over.

Speaker 12 (02:03:02):
Ye.

Speaker 13 (02:03:03):
And unfortunately that pub goes back to the eighteen eighties
and cowboys used to come in their tie their horse up.
That's gone, so that's a garret. And then you had
the Hillsborough which is a good one year down a
para road that went up and smoked and that's now nothing. Goodness,
it's never come back. The Hillsborough tavin.

Speaker 3 (02:03:22):
A lot of pubs burnt down.

Speaker 19 (02:03:25):
Yeah.

Speaker 13 (02:03:25):
Now here's a couple in reverse. We've got koc Linwood
Vegn there since the nineteen eighties that's shut down about
the two thousands. That's now called Nuggets Bar.

Speaker 3 (02:03:34):
Any good terrible name.

Speaker 13 (02:03:37):
Wow, it's keeping will Colonel Sanders, isn't it.

Speaker 12 (02:03:40):
Oh?

Speaker 3 (02:03:40):
I see what you're saying, yell and go a bar
called Nuggets.

Speaker 13 (02:03:44):
And then the last one, which is like used to
be a good bar on the day. You must have
heard it. The fotzteald Arms down on Fittstield as yep,
that'd have been around since the nineteen fifties. Mysteriously, just
a few years ago that went up in smoked I
reckon it was a bit of an insurance job that's
now turned into like a mal Roy's place in the
Beverly Hills nine O two one O go to the community.

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So we're hanging on here and reading Black Len with
their pubs from seven but a lot of them. The
clothing Marcus.

Speaker 3 (02:04:16):
And no cano be draft anymore.

Speaker 13 (02:04:18):
A I'd be lucky to find that. If you find
the candidates could be gone worth down a million dollars.

Speaker 7 (02:04:24):
Marcus.

Speaker 3 (02:04:25):
Nice to hear, Shannon riots Marcus.

Speaker 6 (02:04:27):
Welcome Marcus.

Speaker 20 (02:04:29):
Has anybody said anything about the manget to note Rory
when they built it, they didn't put the staircase in?

Speaker 22 (02:04:35):
Yeah?

Speaker 3 (02:04:36):
No, And I can't I was reading on the Wikipedia
about that, and I can't work I can't work out
why they why they would do that.

Speaker 20 (02:04:44):
Well, I just I just looked it up at Google
on Google, but I read the article at the restaurant
there about it, and I think they said six years
before they actually could use it because they didn't put
the staircase and upstairs.

Speaker 3 (02:04:59):
So was it a mistake.

Speaker 20 (02:05:01):
Yes, they just forgot about it. They just used to
use ladders all the time. So when they finished they
took the letters down, all of a sudden there was
no staircase. Quite interesting. I've just read the article on
Google there it just talked about it again and I
can't find where it said six years but at the
at the restaurant at that Mengatinoa and you know it's

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a very nice restaurant. There's an article there about it,
so somebody else will know more about it than I will.

Speaker 3 (02:05:27):
But looking in the Tiara the government's history website, it
says something like that.

Speaker 20 (02:05:34):
Yes, it's crazy. It sees in the article there that
the architect built this art detto building, was very proud
of it, and he's on the boat going back to
England that will retake France. It was he going back
to France and he said he's going back with a
load of cash. And then they opened the doors they
found no staircase.

Speaker 15 (02:05:56):
Brian, Yeah, good evening, Marcus. Then I'm sure I got
to mementos of.

Speaker 7 (02:06:04):
Tory Brewy's good.

Speaker 10 (02:06:07):
Yeah.

Speaker 15 (02:06:08):
They brought out a advertising This is around about thirty
years ago. I would say, people a person laying down
with a foot form on his hand.

Speaker 17 (02:06:22):
All right.

Speaker 15 (02:06:22):
They're like made out like paper mache. It was about
five or six of them. They're out in the radio
stack at the present. They're locked up so I can't
get out there to get them. They came from Marketonoko
and they used to come across the the I came

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from Foxton was my hometown. Four pubs, four different beers.
You had the Manmoture Hotel up the top and Avenue
Road corner Avenue and Hall and that was Standard Breweries.
Waits Hotel which was on the main street and White

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Street that had the Leopard.

Speaker 20 (02:07:12):
Then you had them.

Speaker 15 (02:07:13):
Post Office Hotel which was at the post office in
the old windmill, the announce and that was.

Speaker 5 (02:07:23):
dB.

Speaker 15 (02:07:24):
Then the one down at the Bottom hotel the Bottom
that was known as it was the Fox Hotel known
as the Bottom, and that had the red band from Wellington.
So so there was a great thing. I don't drink anymore.
I'm a little bit old.

Speaker 7 (02:07:42):
For that now.

Speaker 15 (02:07:43):
I'm in the late eighties.

Speaker 20 (02:07:45):
And yeah.

Speaker 15 (02:07:47):
The I used to go across the Mungotonoka well at
Pire too. I was a bike rider and the old
sitting walking machine rode on many of many track. I
did the few luck sixth Day eleven times and from
Auckland Tonton, which was a bug of a trip, and

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I used to ride on the track. I had an
accident that night at Cook's Gardens and then did a
smell broke the mall record at cook Gardens. Yeah, but
I used to go across I do for a train
ride through the mamatou Goig. This was on a Saturday

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after I left the post office. After work at the
post office, and I used to go over to Tour
and I was kicking out, a kicking around with a
young girl and her father was a local copp at
Pire Tour Bert Thrash and now there and then I'd
ride back over the old saddle road that was a

(02:08:53):
goat track. The ride back over there, back through to
Palmer's North, back through the Poxton. I even remember when
Carl Some that Carl Theodore or Some the painter him
a tangy Yeah. And they used to make wines, Parsonal wines,

(02:09:18):
carrot wines, you name it. And they're that big hedge
Marco carper heads and you had the big words of
wine in it.

Speaker 10 (02:09:27):
Yep.

Speaker 3 (02:09:27):
And yeah, that was on the list, Brian, I think
I might have spoke to you before. Did you have
some sort of national cycling records or something?

Speaker 17 (02:09:37):
Yeah?

Speaker 15 (02:09:37):
I did, I did some there, Yeah, christ was that many.
I was road and crack.

Speaker 3 (02:09:47):
Did you did you ever walk into Wellington record or something?

Speaker 15 (02:09:52):
No? No, no, no, not that. I wrote that several
times and I said that was a bloody grueling race that.

Speaker 3 (02:10:02):
Yeah, So where did you get Where did you get
the two we steck? What are they like? Are they
like rugby player paper meshow rugby players?

Speaker 2 (02:10:11):
Yeah?

Speaker 15 (02:10:11):
They're about probably eight to ten inches in length.

Speaker 3 (02:10:16):
Oh yeah, okay.

Speaker 15 (02:10:18):
One is a person laying one he's laying down his
side and the two colors red, gold and white, have you?
And he got a football, and then there's the other
one with the goal post.

Speaker 7 (02:10:31):
A whole lot.

Speaker 15 (02:10:33):
It came out as like a promotion, Pie said, probably
thirty years ago. I don't know.

Speaker 3 (02:10:40):
Leave him the sheriff look at this other time. I'm
going to move on, Brian. But nice to hear from you.
Take care. I just won't know about the magic stick.
Fantastic of course you call the Majestic the magic stick.
I can't believe us for my whole life not calling
The Majestic the Magic Stick. I love a nickname for
a pub one of my favorite things. I've had it, guys,

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I'm out of here.

Speaker 1 (02:11:04):
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