An emu mail (30 January 2025)

Are you a hoarder? And where is the line between 'collecting' and 'hoarding' anyway??

Plus talking about the American Airlines flight that crashed midair with an army helicopter lead to Paul retelling the incredible story of his near-disaster flight in the late 1980s.

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Speaker 1 (00:07):
You're listening to the Marcus lush Night's podcast from News Talks.

Speaker 2 (00:11):
I'd be Greening's good evening and welcome. My name is Marcus.
Here till twelve tonight. I hope this me talking find
you in a good space tonight. I hope it's going
all right for the end of the week. Kind of
just around the corners. If you're on holiday, go you schools.
I think some back today, some back tomorrow, some back Monday.

(00:33):
Think pretty well all the schools will be back on Monday.
That's what I've noticed today. Could spend some time at
a school today and that all went well after doing
an escape room and that was good. Also, so you
get in touch, by the way too. With this helicopter
plane accident, Trump has done a post. He said the

(00:58):
airplane was on a perfect and routine line of approach
to the airport. The helicopter was going straight at the
airplane for an extent period of time. It is a
clear night. The lights on the plane were blazing. Why
didn't the helicopter go up or down or turn? Why
didn't the control tell tell the helicopter not do instead
of asking if they saw the plane? This is a
bad situation that looks like it should have been prevented.

(01:19):
Not good exclamation mark, exclamation mark. I guess that in
some ways that's stating the obvious. I can tell you
also too that as far as I mean, look, this
is a tragedy. But you know, with all trased these
people do ask if someone predicted it with their predictions.
No one predicted there would be a big passenger jet
versus helicopter accent. In fact, no one predicted to be

(01:45):
a plane accident at all. In fact, the only plane
related things that people predicted was in fact, that MH
three seven zero would be found. Do we even think
that the MH three seven zero was still in one piece?
I thought they'd found wingbits. I thought that it all
broken up. We are ging some more predictions from people
from the podcasts, which I like, you'll say, sorry for

(02:10):
my tardinessply I got this from the podcast Yes Key
we to be found in someone's home in Wellington, while
to be found in the tunnel doers Marcus Lush, to
be seen in a webbed toe shoes majors in a

(02:31):
train tunnel caven could well happen. But anyway, that's some
of the stuff that people are and what are we
going to talk about tonight. That's the question for tonight.
That's the question on everyone's lips. Bearing in mind if
you've got breaking news where you are. I did drive
home late last night. In fact, I've got home about

(02:52):
fifteen past twelve, got out of the office early and
I saw a orange glow over tea while I thought,
that's not good. But there's a major fire there. Things
about ten helicopters fighting that be Vero very expensive and
it will be very detrimental to what is kind of

(03:15):
unique swamp wetland on the other side of the harbor
from Bluff, near where the te Way aluminium smelters. I
don't think I think the aliminium smelter at t Y
is affected at the stage, but it seems to be
growing veruvery quickly the fire. Although the wind has dropped today,
it was re windy yesterday, it's not windy today, so

(03:40):
we'll keep an eye on that, although I don't think
we'll get much more news after dark.

Speaker 3 (03:43):
That is t Y.

Speaker 2 (03:45):
Roman travers Roman Travis on after midnight tonight. Anyway, get
in touch if you want to talk. My name is
Marcus Welcome, Oh wait nine nine detext I will bring
you the latest on the fire. It's grown five times
its size. Sixty five fighters, eight fire trucks are in attendance.

(04:14):
Tell the helicopters in support. Non immediate threat to people, homes,
the smelter or the t y bridge. The ty bridge
is closed to traffic. People with respirat rassues that urge

(04:34):
to stay indoors although there's no I mean the closest
houses would be bluff and the wind would need to
turn for that to happen. I will keep you update
on that throughout the course of the evening if there
are updates. So there we go. But yes, if you've
got any breaking us throughout the course of the evening,
whale strandings or shark sightings, or fires or traffic incidents

(05:01):
or police actively let me know when keep people informed
about that. Speaking of animals attack, who's been attacked by
an animal? Every nasty story of a kangaroo attacking someone
in Australia. They were heading to the car near Rockhampton,

(05:23):
just going to the car as you do, and the
kangaroo attack the guy one hundred kilograms two meters high. Yeah,
there's some classic quotes in the article, it seems to

(05:45):
be three point fifty k's west of Rockhampton, Tiger Country.

Speaker 4 (05:54):
One of the.

Speaker 2 (05:54):
Witnesses says the bastard wasn't provoked. I've been out here
for thirteen years and I've never seen a problem out here. Ever,
I spent twenty years of the army ie, for instance,
in all sorts of conditions, and I've i've ever seen
a rue attack someone before. You wouldn't think that's where
the army would be. He said. The community was terrified.

(06:16):
Stay home, don't go out. He warned a lot of
elderly people live in this community and they like to
go and walk their dogs in the morning, and that's
just asking for trouble. He's also consumed tourists in the
area wouldn't see Kangaroos's threat, adding they were liable to
bloody tune on you at any time, particularly around this
time of the year. Nasty. I guess the guy got kicked,

(06:44):
but do get in touched you on to be a
part of the show. Eight hundred and eighty eight Teddy
and n De text any breaking news the next three
hours fifteen minutes, I will bring that to you. That's
a promise. No more word on that festival in India
with four hundred million people attending. I hope that has
gone okay. There were some people crushed yesterday. Not hearing

(07:10):
more reports about that today people fourteen past eight.

Speaker 5 (07:14):
Oh.

Speaker 2 (07:17):
By the way, the great story from the UK someone
brought something for fifty dollars at a yard sale turned
out to be a van Go masterpiece with fifteen million
is a fisherman smoking his pipe on a deserted beach

(07:39):
spot in a bin and bought for fifty bucks. Yeah,
very clearly a van Go. You can just see that
by looking at It's a nice looking painting. Was bought
in Minnesota. I'm not what sure how it got to Minnesota.

(08:00):
It had the signature E. L Imaar, which I think
was a name that he used. Yeah, so there we go.
It's extraordinary looking painting. By the way, begs the question two,
the most exciting thing you've boughted a garage sale? Have
you ever found anything? If you actually found anything that

(08:20):
was really valuable and purchased, and I'll be curious to
know what that was. A lot of people buy things
they think, tune out, they're going to be tremendously valuable
and aren't necessarily tremendously valuable, but it's a good story
too well. I wouldn't mind talking about that. The trouble
with garage sales. Of course, no, no longer is this
because everything's on trade me or marketplace. But you might

(08:41):
have got some great bargain. I'd like to talk about
that also tonight sixteen past eight, eight hundred and eighty
Teddy and nine two nine two texts. I'm expecting breaking
news happening in the next four hours also, so we'll
keep you updated. Yep, everyone's reporting the Kangaroo story. Now.
People aren't quite sure how to get their refunds from

(09:03):
the Timeless Summer Tour. Yeah, it might be hard to
get those. That was Boy George LRB, Bonnie Tyler and Starship.
We talked about this last year. There was two concerts
kind of organized by the same promoter. I imagine it
b margin if those are going to go ahead. One

(09:24):
was canceled, one was postponed. That is my understanding that
you might have some more information about that and the
bargains you've bought the garage sale. Get in touch. One
name as Marcus Welcome eight hundred and eighty ten eighty
and nine to nine two to text. The incredible bargains
you've found in a garage sale. Trouble with me, I'm

(09:46):
always going there on the with the excitement of the
chance I'll find something, but never really, No, I've brought
a lot of stuff that's probably worth less than I
thought it was, or we were as of less use,
you know, with a shit of that sort of stuff,
don't you? What's that about anyway? And your hold on
to it. You buy these things and well, actually I'm

(10:09):
going to store that, and you never use them again,
and they never bother to get rid of them. We
are victims to our junk. Anyone got a hoarding problem,
I'd like to talk to a hoarder. You even got
a garage full of old encyclopedias they can't let go of,
or old tins of preserves. I don't know what you

(10:32):
might hoarder, be curious to talk to someone like that,
just to work out what your secret hoarding obsession is.
We've all got those guarden sheets, just full of stuff
we don't need, But boy, can we separate ourselves from
it never? And once we do, it's so free. What's
that about? It's not like I lived for a war

(10:54):
or a depression, when I'm in a depression like the
nineteen twenty nine depression, not like when I've got the Kirwins. Anyway,
eighteen past eight. My name is Marcus head and twelve,
looking forward to what you want to bang on about, Todbviously,
I'm going a talking mood. Hopeful you are too, so
get at it. There might be some other topic you've
got you might want to actually non curated talk we
call that. You might want to come through with something,

(11:16):
and they'll be lovely to hear from you tonight, but
I will keep you updated. Oh, actually I forgot about
the texts. No calls or synth anty texts, Jerry, fancy
me forget about the texts. Don't forget the EMU wars?
What are the EMU wars? Marcus? While watching Wicked today

(11:44):
with my fingers in my ears, I predict self control
headphones at the movies, Cindy, that's a great idea. No
one mourns the wicked, kill her, she's wicked. Do anyone
predict what's happening at ty point? Ty point burns every
five years? Anyway? What are the EMU wars? And what

(12:08):
a great idea that is headphones at the movies. When
I went to see Wicked at the theater in Wahiki,
which is beautiful, eron couches, and we got there half
an hour early because I was panic would be late fantastic,
but no one sung. Of course I didn't sing. I

(12:30):
don't know the words. I wasn't like a stage musical person.
Seen a number of times. I went in cold. Nothing
cold about me by the end of it, Boy, oh boy,
bring on Wicked too. Anyway, as I say, eight hundred
and eighty tatty and nine nine two detects. If you
do want to come, that's a very good prediction that Marcus.

(12:52):
We have got our refund for the Timeless Summer Concert already,
got an email just the other day. Weird thing was
they couldn't tell us the new dates, but asked if
we wanted a refund. We figured we'd get the refund
now and just repurchase tickets of the new date. Suit
chairs barbe Marcus. The EMU Wars was when the Australian

(13:14):
Army engaged in an EMU colling cop operation and was
soundly defeated by the EMUs. Marcus mum bought a glass
sculpture for fifteen dollars at the hospital shop, and just
saw a piece from the same set artist at auction
for one point fifty Marcus, everyone I know is a

(13:36):
hoarder to some degree. I'd recommend no one buys anything.
I've cleaned out my own place. I've cleaned out my
mum's place. It's all complete crap. I predict retail will collapse. Davis.
I'm with you, Davis. You know what the beginning of
the end was. Once people finish, Once people filled the

(13:59):
spare room with stuff, then they filled the garage with
stuff like wetsuits and canoes and spear guns for when
they thought they're going to go spear fishing. So they
filled the garage in the spare room. And then they've
gone and got themselves this doorage facility and filled that

(14:21):
with jungle. So we've all got too much. Stuff doesn't
bring us happiness. We're just worry about when we're going
to use it. So who's the hoarder? Marcus. I volunteered
in South America, walked to puma every day in the
Amazon jungle. The puma had been hand read, so it
couldn't be released back into the wild. One day, I

(14:44):
was focused on cleaning up his play area, and I
unknowingly irritated when with a noise from a tool I
was using. He jumped me in his jaw grabbed my
thigh until my buddy helped distract him off me. I
still have a scar on my thigh from one of
his canine teeth. Roberts, Marcus, Welcome, good evening, Rob, your hoarder.

Speaker 6 (15:07):
Oh are you talking to me, Marcus?

Speaker 7 (15:08):
Rob?

Speaker 6 (15:11):
Yeah, yeah, Look, I'm a bit of a hoarder, Marcus,
but I sort of always find use for things I
just can't I'm hoarding something that that that you, your guests,
your listeners may follow disgusting. But during COVID, I didn't

(15:33):
get vaccinated, and I used to go for walks because
I couldn't go into shops or restaurants or takeaways or anywhere,
so I'd go for walks. I'd go for walks, and
I used to pick up all the discarded masks. So
so what I'd do is each star would go out

(15:55):
with a little plastic bag and then I'd pick all
the masks up around the streets of Parmesan North, and
then I'd count how many how many I got for
the day. I think my best effort was about three
hundred masks wow the garden.

Speaker 2 (16:13):
Wow.

Speaker 6 (16:13):
And just just in the last couple of days, my
wife has found the mount in the garden shed and
she told me the bloody get rid of them, and
I can't rob.

Speaker 2 (16:26):
I think most people have been really surprised when you
see you've got a wife, because you sound like a
solo sort of a unit right where abing mask that
kind of surprise to all of us.

Speaker 6 (16:37):
No, no, well I was going to loose the end market. Yes,
I couldn't go anywhere, so look, Yeah, my best effort
often was Christmas Day? Was it twenty twenty two? We
were locked down or twenty twenty one?

Speaker 2 (16:50):
I think twenty twenty one, Yeah.

Speaker 6 (16:52):
And I went, you know, I got up at six
o'clock in the morning and I walked till about ten
in the morning. Yeah, And that was my best best
collection day. It was about and I guess that there
was a shopping day before. You see, the streets were
all busy and people just throwing away discarding.

Speaker 2 (17:08):
Are they all like it? Are they all like an
a countdown bag?

Speaker 6 (17:12):
Uh? Yes, yes, Well I used to go out with
a little little countdown bag or or I get that
I used to get the newspaper delivered, and I just
stuffed them all in the in the plastic bag that
the newspaper came. And yeah, so look i'd count them.
I think if my memory sees me right, I've got
about four thousand, seven hundred and eighty odd discarded masks

(17:35):
of all shapes sizes. Some beautiful knitted ones, your your
your sort of you know, your normal surgical ones. There
are some quite fancy ones.

Speaker 2 (17:48):
They got a lot of questions for you, Rob, Why
did you? I mean, I can understand that you're is
interesting you're doing. You're doing a social service by picking
them all up. And also it was interesting to collect
them because you can see how, you know, how it
was going up with used to But why did you
keep them?

Speaker 8 (18:04):
Look?

Speaker 6 (18:04):
I well, well, look I was going to go there
was an environmental initiative here in town, and I wrung
them up. It was run by the council, but they
hadn't sort of thought of recycling masks or anything, so
I sort of kept them in a big fedge. But
I also thought that one day I could make some

(18:27):
sort of art out of them.

Speaker 4 (18:28):
You could, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 6 (18:30):
And just sort of show how we just at that
time of our lives and time in New Zealand where
we just discarded masks all over the streets. It was terrible,
and I got the inspiration. I was out riding with
my wife one day before we all got lockdown, and
I was thinking. We were riding our pushbikes and they
were like, you know, tens of masks just lying all

(18:55):
around the street, and I thought this was shocking. So
then I started picking them up, and that's how it started.

Speaker 2 (19:03):
Hey, did you ever get COVID handling all the mask?

Speaker 5 (19:07):
No?

Speaker 6 (19:07):
No, well no, no, well I'd wear I'd wear rubber
gloves obviously because I wanted to try and keep myself safe,
but I wasn't afraid of them at all. No, and
macrosoft and I worked on a farm, so I was.

Speaker 2 (19:23):
Sitting on there because you're good, You're real good. You
might be called the year. So while what we're saying,
you're at a stream of thought, I didn't want to break.

Speaker 6 (19:31):
Oh sorry, sorry, yeah, where were we?

Speaker 9 (19:34):
Where we were?

Speaker 10 (19:35):
Year?

Speaker 6 (19:35):
Year? So So yeah, I used to go around here
with gloves on little plastic back. Look. I've got some
filthy looks from people and and and you know, just
like well, I was just picking them up because I
couldn't stand the side of them. They'd blow around. And
interestingly that the little you know, bend thing that went

(19:58):
around your heading through over years or whatever. They were
shocking because the winds here in Parmesan North that they
get up a bit and the and they used to
wrap around council garden plants like roses, and I found
hundreds and thousands just wrapped around and they were quite
difficult to pull off. It was, yeah, I just couldn't

(20:22):
stand seeing them about Marcus. Oh yeah, I've got to
fetch you.

Speaker 11 (20:28):
Yeah.

Speaker 6 (20:28):
Look, I think my last count, because I was running
a running total each day, was about four thousand, seven hundred.
I've got yeah, and my action.

Speaker 2 (20:38):
I think Papa might be interested.

Speaker 6 (20:40):
Yeah yeah, Well, well, you know, I did think of
some sort of art because there's some what do you thought?
There's some really nice masks amongst them, you know, because
people were were knitting and selling them online and there
are some beautiful creations.

Speaker 2 (20:58):
I've enjoyed that greatly. Rob, thank you very much for
that way. It's a bit different. It wasn't expecting that
call tonight. The thing you hold the thing you collect.
How is this fire looking in t y, Marcus, I
can spill it from way, MUMU just tune the radio
on collecting masks. WTF, Marcus. My dad had a hip

(21:20):
replacement into recover. Wanted to get an orthopedic bed. My
stepmother wouldn't let him as the spare room was full
of who hoarded stuff? I can imagine. I bet it
was stuff? What do people get stuff? They come to
an age, they get stuff. A lot of it's for quilting.
I reckon. My husband hoards thumb press antique oil cans.

(21:42):
He says they are collected, not hoarded. I beg to differ,
as there are four hundred and seventy six of them,
and there's in no way comparable to the very few
scattered pilows we have on my bed yours, Emma. Speaking
of pillows, my wife holds pillows eleven on the bed
and takes me ten extra arm movements to chuck on

(22:04):
the floor, and then another hundreds throughout the house. Cheapest
I collect sea glass. There is a book called The
Guide to Sea Glass, which shows the more rare ones.
It's quite a good book. Because we're across to the beaches.

(22:27):
I haven't got it, but I know of it. It's
on my list of books to get if you are
looking for sea glass. And aren't we all to walk
along the beach. The rarest is red, by the way.
I tell you what some of the places over the holidays,
and it's I went to the market at TITANANGI are
one day before Christmas, and quite a few people that
you know, how things kind of there's trends at the markets.

(22:49):
People get like for a while there in Surrey Hills
in the eighties, people are making clocks from old records.
You get an old record and you put hands through
the middle and it would be a clock, not a
very good one to be a clock anyway. And what
seemed to be all the rage at the markets in
the Christmas of twenty twenty four was pictures made from

(23:14):
sea glass, some representational and some just rambling assemblages. Yeah,
you can get a poster of the rarest sea glass.

(23:40):
It's the reds, the oranges and the turquoise. Comes in
a hard mailing tube. It's Christmas sorted for me. We're
talking about what you hoard and your great bargain you found,
your great second hand hand and the two are kind
of related. But why would you need four hundred and
seventy six hand press oil tins? Marcus Clickton used COVID

(24:06):
and keeping them disgusting. The guy must be nutties and
fruit cake. But it's also a poor reflection on us
as society that they were not disposed of correctly, like
putting in the rubbish crazy chairs gazer. Goodness, gracious me,

(24:33):
Aaron's just found another pillow. People have quite strong feelings
on the masks. Someone said, Marcus has this guy had
the vid with respect? What does that mean?

Speaker 12 (24:48):
Dan?

Speaker 2 (24:48):
Did you read that text?

Speaker 13 (24:51):
Oh?

Speaker 2 (24:51):
I had COVID had the vid? I did ask him that, Yeah,
that's good neihverhood. COVID called the vid twenty two away
from nine one of us. Marcus, Well, looking forward to
your contributions tonight. The answer, my friend is blowing in
them in. Someone said Rob needs therapy. We should start
a collection from chairs, Margaret, I try not to judge

(25:15):
the things you are the other thing of the things
you start collecting and hoarding, like the guy with his
COVID masks, and like the guy with his oil tins.
When do you get to the stage you think it's
that I've had it, because not many people do get
to that stage, do they. Marcus, you can't have too

(25:41):
much material in your quilting stash Lull Joscelyn. Yes, I've
met quilters and they have their sewing room. It's just
filipits of fabric, filipits of fabric. Marcus will email you
a collection of the oil cans four hundred and seventy

(26:03):
six collection to keep history alive. Well, it's always good
to if you're around the secondhand shops who you can
collect stuff for. I see a lot of them, but
I imagine if you've got four hundred and seventy six,
you're probably They're all different, are they? And you probably
just want ones that are unique. I would imagine it's
really about hoarding. It's when collecting becomes hoarding and the

(26:24):
great bargains you have found. But I also want to
know who's become a victim of their hoarding. I want
of the fights it's caused in your relationship and how
many of the rooms of the house it's taken over.
I think when it starts impacting on others, that's when
you've got to say when. Although you don't because what
you're hoarding is your lifetime's greatest achievement. We've all been there,

(26:49):
haven't we. You think of all the joy and effort
it took to get all that stuff. Oh yeah, keep
it going if you want to talk about it's a
lot of people say they have a lot of pillows
going around, don't they. Three D printers are the new quilters.

(27:13):
She's a quilter's daughter, for sure. What would you do
with a three D printer?

Speaker 11 (27:16):
An?

Speaker 2 (27:16):
You won't do anything interesting with a three D printer.
I have got zero interest in one. You kind of
sometimes see them on the displays at the library. You
see their rubbish they built, You think, why would you bother?
Marcus clean face masks. The elastic breaks off easily, are

(27:38):
use in the garden for tying up tomato plants. Works
a treat. And someone sent me an email about the
Emu wolves Wars an EMU mail. I'm liking that it's
a good story, that it's a very good story. Come on, hoarders,

(28:03):
you're the unmanageability of your hoarding. Well, you're collecting. The
Emu war was nineteen thirty two. They had to start
discharged soldiers after World War One, and they went to
war with the EMUs and it didn't go well. It

(28:26):
was turned into a musical. Don't you love a musical?
Joan hoarder or collector, I'm Hollo Marcus.

Speaker 10 (28:35):
I'm probably not a hoarder a collector.

Speaker 2 (28:39):
That's a difference.

Speaker 10 (28:41):
Well, I'm not hoarding where I've got a problem where
I'm hoarding. I'm trying to clean out my house and
garage now that my husband passed away and I'm on
my own. But and I'm not throwing away good stuff.
Give it away or give to people. I collecked coffee
mugs tea mugs, and I would have about fifty, and

(29:02):
I like I've got different sizes colors. I've got sets
of two sets of four when we're the six of
us for many years ago, out from meal and back
to my place, and then the other turns afterwards, and
I'll have the two pink ones for the ladies and
two blue, three pink ones for the ladies and three
blue ones for the men. And my friend Glory I

(29:23):
had lunch with today. She drinks black tea, so she
has a fine coffee mug.

Speaker 4 (29:29):
And I've got that.

Speaker 2 (29:30):
Beast question for you. Have you got any novelty coffee.

Speaker 10 (29:32):
Mugs novelty probably not that.

Speaker 2 (29:37):
I've got one that's got in a handle on the inside.
You've got one of those? No, I've got one with
a shelf for the biscuit at the bottom. Have you
got one of those? No?

Speaker 12 (29:47):
Oh?

Speaker 10 (29:47):
Have you got quite a few coffee mugs and different ones?

Speaker 2 (29:49):
Yeah, but hundreds. But I don't want to. I don't
want to. I don't want to outdo your collection because
you see, where do you keep them? Just and gemmed
in shelves.

Speaker 10 (29:59):
Mine's in the pantry cover. I've got one one with
a great grandma, sure is, but I was given from
grandchildren who Adison's now thirteen going to high school, and
Spencer was eleven yesterday.

Speaker 2 (30:11):
Now what's school Spencer off too?

Speaker 10 (30:13):
Oh? No, he's staying at row ETI School and Addison's
going to Avonside. Aside, girls, you said you, you said
you like the name Edison. When I said that name,
great name medicine.

Speaker 2 (30:25):
Tell me he's got the uniform sold down, all right?
No dramas, the right shoes.

Speaker 10 (30:29):
Yeah, she was all excited. She'd filled in her forms
earlier in the year and of last year, and she's
thirteen in October. Wow, that's nice, I think. So, I
think she's got everything. And then Spencer was worried I
got a wee way to walk from school that they
wouldn't walk home together. Of course I'd often pick them
up and have them here for tea over the years
when they're younger and Addison's going to pick them up

(30:51):
and they walk home together. It's about a fifteen minute walk.
So she's happy about that, Edison.

Speaker 2 (30:57):
Edison got her own rug.

Speaker 10 (31:00):
No, I don't think she Oh, well she what she likes,
drinking cranberry juice. She gets out of wine glass here
and drinks green You up.

Speaker 2 (31:08):
And about that? So you want to don't you want
to keep drinking out of a wine Guys, that's terrible.

Speaker 10 (31:12):
No, what you know he got those plastic woes.

Speaker 2 (31:14):
No, that's not good that that's getting them you drinking wine?

Speaker 10 (31:17):
Oh no, no, this crane juice.

Speaker 5 (31:19):
It's not was But you never know.

Speaker 2 (31:21):
Next thing, you know, Joe, nice to talk. Thank you, Aaron.
Are you erin with the with the oil tins?

Speaker 10 (31:26):
Yeah?

Speaker 8 (31:26):
Get Marcus.

Speaker 2 (31:27):
How are they all different?

Speaker 9 (31:29):
Yeah? They well know, there's a lot a lot of
the same. But I clicked them because I keep them
in the original patina on how I get them, so
I buy them off trade me or second hand shops.
I've got a guy who actually called my oil broken
down in tower who's got a second hand bullshop, Jamie,
and he flips me a message every so often when

(31:50):
he gets a lot that coming from off the farms
or different old old machine shops or or whatever, you know.
And I clicked, I basically clicked whatever wherever I can
get my hands on, because I think that I really
like is they'll be seems like a scratch on the bottom,
you know, like norm you know, you know what I mean.

(32:12):
So it's just keeping all that history alive. I've got
a really beauty one from about the early nineteen hundreds
which which we traced down to a bloke and hope
it had it who sent it up to me. It's
an old primus and it's a complete grass one. I'll
set your photo of it. But that was actually used
on the old steamships that used to take the flats

(32:33):
to over to the UK Okay.

Speaker 2 (32:36):
Now some of them, some of them you press on
the bottom of it. Is it a thumb press one
or is that not called.

Speaker 9 (32:41):
That thumb press? Is the one which has a trigger
on the top.

Speaker 2 (32:45):
Yeah, that's the trigger.

Speaker 9 (32:47):
Yeah, yeah, so that's yeah. I call them a thumb
press people out there has a proper name. But it's
more it's for me. It's more just for me. It's
thinking about the imaginary story of where it's been.

Speaker 2 (32:58):
Yeah, that's a conduit to the past.

Speaker 8 (33:02):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (33:02):
I got a couple of questions. Are they hard to fix?

Speaker 10 (33:07):
No?

Speaker 9 (33:07):
Well, what I is I try to keep them all
in the original condition as I get themselves. They've broken,
they're broken, right.

Speaker 2 (33:13):
Oh I see, lady, Just leave them as they are.

Speaker 9 (33:17):
Well, it's not not a lazy collective. But to be honest,
about ninety eight percent of them are all functional because
all the yeah.

Speaker 2 (33:25):
Because all they were oiled.

Speaker 9 (33:29):
Well yeah, well oiled. But all the innerds are brass,
you see, because the seventies where they changed the ins
the actual inside punk mechanism to a plastic you know,
to an mp teflon type. But prior to that, they're
all brass. So you know, these things have been around
for bloody donkeys, you know.

Speaker 2 (33:48):
Because how have you have you displayed them?

Speaker 9 (33:52):
I've got I'll see you through some photos an email,
but I've got in my works. I've got a big,
huge workshop right, which is about eleven meters long, about
six meters wide, four and a half meters high, and
I've built all shelves of them, so it goes takes
up all basically takes up.

Speaker 2 (34:10):
I haven't not the email yet.

Speaker 9 (34:12):
Ah, it'll come, It'll come true. You see it soon. Yes,
So big file, different types. So because you know, back
in the thirties, forties, fifties up to the seventies, people
when you brought a push bike, he's getting an oil
can with it. When you brought an old bsa motorbike,
new bsa motorbike, you've got an oil can and all
different types of things. So it's just something that really
interests me. You know, I'm fifty three. I remember it

(34:34):
needs to be in my granddad's garage, you know, back
in the seventies and he had all his old oil
cans around and just yeah, brings back all that memory though.

Speaker 2 (34:42):
Oh they're great thing. And have you got have you
got a succession plan in it? Because because probably no
one wants them ultimately do they.

Speaker 9 (34:49):
I've got a succession plan. My daughter Bella, who lives
in Tasmania, she's going to inherit them all right, and
even if exactly even shout out to Bella if she's
listening on the radio team, but does she want them?
She's got no option, mate, So yeah, and she goes

(35:10):
around all the Sidney shops in Tasmania and feeds them.
But the postage cost the post the movie is too much.
But she sees them. Yeah, so it's all right, we'll
get a she'll be into them.

Speaker 2 (35:22):
Are there a lot on Are there a lot on
trade Me?

Speaker 8 (35:25):
Yeah?

Speaker 9 (35:25):
There are a lot on trading but and about I
think you were talking about it about it months ago
over the last year. You were talking about how things
seem to have dried up a bit on trade me yep.
And what there is a hell of a lot less
on trade me now. And the prices are through the
roof on a lot. You know, there's a particular brand.

Speaker 2 (35:43):
Are you doing? Marketplanes are canes.

Speaker 9 (35:46):
Canes, which is ky, Yes, and that's you. You'll see
them on trade me for like over one hundred bucks,
you know. But they're all basically from like antique shops
and things like that. But I haven't been on there
for a long time. But yeah, tricky again, but yeah,
when you see them and come across them. Yeah, through

(36:07):
a bit of a through the COVID there is a
lot around. But I think it's because more people didn't.

Speaker 2 (36:11):
Really have much to do with the time selling the
junk on this.

Speaker 9 (36:15):
It's something I really like.

Speaker 2 (36:17):
Marketplace no good, No.

Speaker 9 (36:20):
I don't like going on to the marketplace. You're not
not too keen on Thatchy A Yeah, yeah, I think so.
I think so. But I prefer trade me or like
I say, I've got the my oil can broke it
down and tower on that flicks me and email every
soften and say I've had these ones coming and sends
me a photo and we agree on a price.

Speaker 2 (36:37):
And that's a great relationship to have you. It's lucky
you got them because I mean that's great.

Speaker 14 (36:42):
Yeah.

Speaker 9 (36:42):
And I've never met him with That's.

Speaker 2 (36:44):
Why you don't need to do you. You trust him
and he's on the is Johnny on the spot. He's
getting you your Oilton's looking forward to the photo. Aaron,
this is a great conversation. People are sending me this
sea glass art. Thank you Amber. Who doesn't love sea glass?
If you try buying sea glass on timmer you probably
can these days take out the middle man here till midnight.

(37:08):
My name is Marcus. Welcome. We are into quakes on
the show, but old cluster, little quakes over the last
kind of hour or so mini quakes and topoor two
point two forty one seconds ago. Are two five minutes ago,
at two point seven fourteen minutes ago, a two point
three an hour ago, A two point one an hour ago,
A two point one an hour ago, a two point
six two hours ago, a two point one two hours ago,

(37:31):
a two point five two hours ago, one point nine
three hours ago, two three hours ago, at two point
six six hours ago. So yeah, a lot of it.
A cluster, a little quake cluster. So the lake's gonna blow.
I shouldn't say things so that sounds alarmist. Anyway, if
it does happen, I we'll keep you updated with that.
We are talking about hoarding. Do some people claim you're

(37:54):
a hoarder? But have you been called a hoarder? I
don't even know how to call this topic, but yeah,
I want to know if you're someone that people say
what you've got is just junk, go and fight with
your partner about something or something like that, like a hoarder. Also,
the greatest thing you've found at the garage sale after
the person got the van go for fifty quid. She

(38:16):
was fifty bucks. It was in Minnesota. I think nice painting.
I guess worth more than fifteen mill It's got a
real presence to it. That's my opinion. There's something different
you want to talk about, and that's good. You do you,
that's great, be good to hear from you. Someone's re
upset because they've gone to get on the Auckland Harbor

(38:38):
Bridge at Curran and there was no warning, but they've
been diverted. I'm so angry. I'm going to text Marcus.
It feels like that, Marcus. I'm livid. Once again. The
Auckland Transport closed off the currency on ramp to the
Auckland Harbor Bridge without warning. Get to the point and
I returned to find the closed sign. Had to go

(38:59):
under the bridge right back to the city to get
on there. There is history of this poor management. I
want the job taken off them, no opinion. But with
it being state highway, it won't be Auckland Transport will
be Watahi. By the way, I see Disney Simpsons put

(39:22):
her hand in the ring to be the mayor of
Auckland should be great. That's happening, fresh change. It's gonna
be a long year with the Marrals, and I'm looking
forward to talk to you. If there's any more information,
I'll bring that to you. About the crash on the Potomac.
I think there might also be where Scully Lenders play.

(39:43):
Was Scully Lenders plane? Oh the Hudson, wasn't it? There
was something? There was a plane crash on the Potomac.
A plane went off the end of the runway. Do
you remember that.

Speaker 5 (40:01):
Now?

Speaker 2 (40:01):
When was that? It's hard to get it because everyone's
thinking about this. I do remember it. It's scared off
the end of the runway. I felt it was about
thirty years ago. Hey what I say thirty years ago?

(40:22):
Nineteen eighty two? If Florida nine zero question of the
fourteenth Street bridge over the Potomac killing seventy eight, So
they've got form that particular river Oriana at some Marcus
good evening and welcome.

Speaker 5 (40:40):
Hey, how are you good?

Speaker 2 (40:41):
Thanks you Arianna real good?

Speaker 7 (40:43):
Cool?

Speaker 2 (40:47):
Your hoarder? Are your a garage sale finder?

Speaker 12 (40:50):
I'm a garage sale finder?

Speaker 2 (40:52):
Oh wow yeah yeah, yeah yeah.

Speaker 12 (40:55):
We used to go to garage sales teap t when
I as a young child and we went to one
and there was a piece of what the fellow said
was possilized would five dollars, So my mum bought it
and we took it home and thought, hm, that's not wood.
Took it to the museum and they said it was
a piece of masterdom task. So we had it and

(41:18):
five dollars. So we've nicknamed it Dodo and it's and
we've got a whole lot of cool old things that
we've found over the years. And yeah, so a piece
of master tusk was an official letter from the christ
Section Museum saying what it is and how old it is.
And I can't remember off the top of my head
how olds is, but pretty choice failed four or.

Speaker 2 (41:37):
Five dollars, really choice. But BIG's the question. You wonder
if it came from the museum in the first place,
where did it originate?

Speaker 12 (41:43):
No idea, no idea. The man just thought it was
a piece of whatsslized wood.

Speaker 2 (41:47):
And I imagine it's quite heavy, is it.

Speaker 12 (41:50):
It's very very heavy, Yes, it is heavy.

Speaker 2 (41:53):
It's it's not the it's not the whole tusk. It's
just a bit of the task.

Speaker 12 (41:57):
Yeah, it's a bit of the task. It's probably about
a foot long there and about I don't know what
I'm holding my hands out in diameter.

Speaker 2 (42:08):
Ay work, We'll go your mother for actually springing five
bucks for something that they had no idea what it was.
I know, cool, really cool. And imagine tap against your teeth.
It's really it's really it's almost like what it's almost
like ceramic, isn't it?

Speaker 4 (42:26):
Is that right?

Speaker 2 (42:27):
How would you describe it?

Speaker 12 (42:30):
It's kind a kind of actually, well, when you look
at it looks like bone. It really does. And it's
I mean, it's not you could tell it's not words
because it's too hev. Yeah, it's amazing. It's really good.

Speaker 2 (42:42):
And the Master Dome was like an elephant with tusks.
I I got that right, like a giant elephant.

Speaker 12 (42:47):
Yes, yeah, yeah, the prehistoric ones with the memes tasks. Yeah,
so they're older than the memos obviously, they're like thousands
of years old.

Speaker 2 (42:54):
So pretty cool, brilliant and good on the Old Museum
for authenticating it also. Michael Marcus welcome.

Speaker 4 (43:03):
Yeah, hey Marcus, what you doing?

Speaker 2 (43:05):
Good? Thank you, Michael, gratulations on your voice coming through
very clearly.

Speaker 4 (43:09):
Oh that's great. Yeah, great, Yeah, Hey, look I just
wanted to mention I've got a couple of i'ment total.
They're quirky. I don't have a real interest in it,
but I clicked Batman cars. It sort of started out
by accident. I got one when I was a kid,
and I've just kind of as i've got older, I've

(43:30):
added to it. So look, I don't have them displayed.
I don't know anything about them. Just if I happened
to see one new, I buy it, leave it in
the box, and I put it away. I've probably got
about I don't know, I think about one hundred and
twenty hundred and thirty or just stuck and stuck in
a box over the years.

Speaker 2 (43:47):
Well, I like you because it's not like you're a
child that never got given anythings. So in an adult you're
trying to get everything because you were neglected. You actually
did have them as you did have them as a child,
didn't you.

Speaker 4 (43:58):
That's right. Well I had one anyway, and that one
in itself, I don't have that anymore, but I remember
it distinctly. It was one of those friction type toys
that you you pull backwards, yes, and it takes off,
but you put these little match sticks inside it, and
that used to fire them out like rockets. It's my
favorite toy. It was brilliant. Was sure what happened to them?

Speaker 2 (44:19):
Was it steel?

Speaker 4 (44:21):
It was still? Yeah, die casting.

Speaker 2 (44:23):
Yeah, I have experienced one of those. I was going
to think, if he says match sticks, I'm all in yeah,
because I couldn't work out of my memory was. But
I certainly I said to myself, if he says match sticks,
this is not a faux memory I have. Yeah, they
were really special.

Speaker 4 (44:38):
Yeah they were. Yeah, I wish I still had it.

Speaker 11 (44:40):
Look.

Speaker 4 (44:40):
The other thing that I collect, I haven't collected for
a while. This was while I was in Australia. It
was old newspapers, okay, but only significant ones, you know,
Like I've got when Steve Irwin died Possum Born. I've
got about twenty or thirty of them that I just

(45:02):
bought them for the headline. It was the Gold Coast bulletin.
And and again I've just stuck them in a in
a your tight bag and never really look at them.
But I've put them out a couple of times and
looked at them, and it's quite interesting just going back
and yeah, looking at the ads and what things are
worth and the chance it goes on. But yeah, I

(45:24):
don't know why. They just interest me.

Speaker 2 (45:25):
You know what's interesting me about you?

Speaker 14 (45:28):
Right M.

Speaker 2 (45:31):
I would have been googling up to try and get
that match box Batmobile car and you haven't done that,
have you? Oh no, I haven't, so does it You
don't care about that or you're really desperate for one?

Speaker 4 (45:42):
No, no, no I'm not. I mean, look if I
came by one, for sure, but I wouldn't go out
of play. I'm not obsessed by them.

Speaker 2 (45:49):
That's what I like about you. Sound very level headed.

Speaker 5 (45:52):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (45:53):
I worked outside a shop while actually I worked in security,
and I used to pass the shop every every week.
It was a newsagent and they every week they'd have
a different Batman car there. So I just started buying
one a week when I was walking past. And yeah,
that's where the main colliqution just grew from.

Speaker 8 (46:11):
You.

Speaker 2 (46:12):
You don't have them on display.

Speaker 4 (46:14):
No. I had them on display at one stage when
I was living in Australia, but when I moved back,
I just put them in a box and have forgotten
about them.

Speaker 2 (46:20):
But still add to it.

Speaker 4 (46:24):
Yeah, you've so if I find something that I that
I haven't got for sure?

Speaker 2 (46:29):
Do you watch the movie, s Michael, No, not really,
you know you're not the Batman movies.

Speaker 4 (46:38):
No, well, I couldn't tell you what from what era or.

Speaker 2 (46:46):
Having kids most of the Batman. I've watched his lego Batman,
which is quite good, but I've got no idea what
they drive.

Speaker 4 (46:52):
Yeah, yeah, I remember years ago we used to click
the when my kids are really young. The McDonald's toys. Yes,
I had three kits, so we would buy four and
we'll stick them in a box. But I think weeks
I've got those and gave them out at the kid's
party once, so it never went really anywhere. But we

(47:13):
had a lot of them too.

Speaker 7 (47:14):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (47:14):
I don't think they're worth quite as much as the
Batman car that shoots the match sticks. But I think
there is a collection of old I think there are
some very sort after McDonald's toys. I'm pretty sure about that.
But Michael, I enjoyed talking to you muchly, so thank
you for that. By the way, what's with seven sharp
not being back on yet? Are they coming back? It's
almost February for goodness sake. You do wonder though, people

(47:35):
get into the habit. They come to January, there's nothing
to do. Well, am I say? You know, I thought
seven sharps should be good for them. To a story
with Rob or Bob with his collecting of the masks
the cover bus. There was an extraordinary time someone needed
a document that him wandering around the streets. Goodness me
finding so many masks and picking them up? Are we

(48:00):
talking when collecting becomes hoarding and just clicking and weird
things a surprise or valuable things you found at garage sales.
I think garage sales will come back. Maybe they never
got away.

Speaker 14 (48:11):
I don't know.

Speaker 2 (48:14):
I think the trouble with garage sales as people went
to early to get them. You know, it became a
bit of a people going around them decently early, weren't
they I clicked bank cards or any cards with Magnica
strips start in the eighties when I found a few
in a JEP and got got hundreds. Don don don Hi,
Jeff Marcus, welcome like a whistle, Jeff, Hello, Hi, Jeff.

Speaker 13 (48:43):
Oh sorry, yeah, I'm well I'm a bit of a
horder as well. But I ordered the right thing. I
bought a painting in the second hand shop for ad dollars.
It was a beautiful, big painting of a little girl
bressed up and a very old fashioned sort of clothes

(49:06):
and cuddling into a spaniel dog and and a lady.
I happen to be talking to this lady because she
was pretty arty about things. So I showed her the
painting and she said to me, hell, Jeff, would you
sell it? And I said, well, I could do. What

(49:28):
what's attracting you? She said that the artist I can't
remember the name of the artist. But she said to me,
I'll tell you something. I'm prepared to ask you five
hundred dollars for the.

Speaker 2 (49:43):
Painting, shippers. What's the whistle, Jeff?

Speaker 13 (49:50):
What's that? It's my hearing age talking about that.

Speaker 2 (49:56):
No, sorries, I know now. I wonder who the artist was.

Speaker 13 (50:01):
No, I don't know who the artist. I wouldn't have
a clue.

Speaker 15 (50:04):
I wouldn't know.

Speaker 13 (50:05):
It's pretty shit artists out there. But but no, I
don't remember the name of the artist. But she did,
and that's what attracted her. And she said to me,
oh my god, where did you buy the painting from?
And I said, ah, I can't quite remember. And she

(50:26):
said to me. I'll tell you what I am prepared
because it's old, very old, and I'm prepared to ask
you five hundred dollars to the painting.

Speaker 2 (50:35):
Was it a New Zealand artist?

Speaker 14 (50:40):
What's that?

Speaker 6 (50:40):
Sorry?

Speaker 2 (50:41):
Was it a New Zealand artist?

Speaker 13 (50:45):
I couldn't tell you that. I wouldn't know. I wouldn't
know one artist from another. I'm sorry, I can't. I
just don't know the name of the artist or anything.
But she did, obviously she knew about paintings. And when
she opened, when she had a look at the back,

(51:06):
see the back of it has sort of gone a
but brownie, you know, because I've been sitting there and
I had it all wrapped up. I don't know why.
Something just attracted me to it, and I bought it.
I think I paid. I think I paid between fifty
and eighty dollars for it. And when she said to me,

(51:27):
do you particularly want it? And I said, no, not really,
I said, I just loved the painting, That's why I
bought it. And she said, I'm prepared to offer you
five hundred dollars for the painting. So there you go, mate.

Speaker 2 (51:42):
Nice to hear from you, Jiff, Thanks so much for that. People,
twenty seven past nine, Peter, it's Marcus.

Speaker 7 (51:47):
Welcome, Hi magus.

Speaker 14 (51:50):
I'm a farmer and I have a problem. I like
farm machinery. So what's upot of time used to be
you go to the farm assaults have a clearing farm
with Sellas and bobs machinery and whatever, and you go
meet up with the local community and bod Bits and
bold and then and then your shed out in the

(52:12):
panic and oh they'll be useful one day and you
never get around to using it. And anyhow, you know
when we refinance once and sort of talking about bank
manager and he says, oh, yeah, there's irons disease. Well
all right, that's right, I've got too much. Yeah, okay,

(52:34):
that's bad. But yeah, my wife's been telling.

Speaker 2 (52:37):
Me, Yeah, what disease do you say? What do you say?

Speaker 14 (52:40):
It was irons disease? Too much iron metal farm machinery.

Speaker 2 (52:49):
Iron disease are quite like that.

Speaker 14 (52:51):
Yeah, it's quite catchy.

Speaker 2 (52:52):
Really, what have you done with it all? Have you
got rid of it?

Speaker 8 (52:58):
Now?

Speaker 14 (52:58):
I fucked some of it up. I haven't really got
round so really, you know, like some of it I
got rid of because rusted away.

Speaker 2 (53:06):
Yeah I thought I thought farmers just needed all that
old stuff because they wanted projects when they're stuck on
their own.

Speaker 14 (53:19):
Exactly. I've got the engineering background, and I like my
projects and all the rest of it. But you know,
travel into and all the rest of it.

Speaker 8 (53:29):
I don't know.

Speaker 14 (53:30):
I just don't get around it.

Speaker 5 (53:31):
Really.

Speaker 2 (53:34):
Do you restore tractors?

Speaker 8 (53:37):
No?

Speaker 14 (53:39):
Yeah, No, I like one machinery, all bits and bobs,
you know, different things that do different things that I expect.
I desired a bit of machinery and my spare time
to it made some stuff that I sell.

Speaker 2 (53:54):
You guys got you guys got to farm sales and
buy more stuff, don't you. Yeah, which is no good
because you end up with just unbelievable amounts of stuff,
don't you.

Speaker 14 (54:06):
Yes, it seems a bit bit like that, yes, yes, yes,
So well, you know, like people get old and have
to move on, and you know, we're sort of we
haven't really adopted the Swedish system of cleansing yet.

Speaker 2 (54:20):
I think it was a Japanese system as well, wasn't it.

Speaker 14 (54:24):
I think so too.

Speaker 7 (54:25):
Yeah.

Speaker 14 (54:25):
Yeah, So like as you get older, you should get
rid of it. Thinks aching everything around you haven't used
them for a certain length of times you get rid of.

Speaker 2 (54:34):
But it's hard to do A might need it one day,
Nice to talk Pete, thanks so much. Twenty seven away
from ten Marcus I started to collect how to motorcycles,
made my second one, but a year my wife said
you can't ride them at the same time and made
me sell one Sad Day from Grasshopper. Lots of small
earthquakes have been fell around Topa at the moment felt

(54:55):
six of the last ten minutes. Something else is said
that Mark's breaking you from Topal twenty's for earthquakes the
last three hours locals fetting unsaid a little concerned, shaking
every five to ten minutes. At the moment, it seems
what about TV one breakfast advertised without Daniel, only chang
and forget the woman's name, It says her gone. Marcus,

(55:22):
my granduncle served as tour of duty in North Africa
during World War II, where he first saw a nomad's
tent full of brass collectibles. He spent all his life
collecting everything brass. When he died at ninety as estate
listed almost three thousand favorite pieces. He outlived two wives
and had no surviving kids, so he meticulously bequeathed every

(55:42):
piece divided amongst his thirty one nieces and nephews, whether
he wanted them or not. Our favorite niece. One favorite
niece ended up with seven hundred and seventy seven pieces.
Her family nickname became Triple seven Lowell. We sold most
of them because we just didn't have the room. That's
from Mark Everett Opshop. I loved those real old finds,

(56:08):
like preserved butterflies and a frame from Brazil. Just last week,
Trump fired the head of the Transportation Security Administration to
spend on the Aviation Security Advisory Committee. It wouldn't be
surprised if there's a sting in the tail with that one. Yes,
Stue Marcus Good Evening host.

Speaker 11 (56:26):
Jew Marcus breaking news, very local, breaking news. But he've
acually opened up the highway between Peterson and Marson again
from eighty two hundred. Because I think it's fantastic, because
it was terribly unpopular.

Speaker 2 (56:43):
People talking about that last night, so not that breaking.
Lu Luxeon was so excited he went there to announce it.
Oh really yeah, Well, think when you got good news,
we got the rebit of good news or something popular,
you go and shout it from the rooftops.

Speaker 11 (57:00):
Yeah. Oh, I'm sorry it's a bit belated.

Speaker 2 (57:05):
How did you find out?

Speaker 11 (57:09):
Because we're right on the highway at the terradype Oven
and we've been complaining to NCTA about the speed limit
and and the grouping of the traffic because they couldn't
free up from the roundabouts because they were restricted in speed.
So everybody's been coming back to me and say, yeah,
they've changed it.

Speaker 2 (57:30):
Oh, okay, how much time is it saving.

Speaker 11 (57:37):
It's not about time, it's about efficiency. Will They're put
in three new roundabouts and then they put a cable
down the center of the road and then they reduced
the speed down from one hundred to eighty between all
the town's Marston and Cardend and Great Town Physicism. And

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it's just ridiculous because they're bunching at the roundabouts near
the clears, and so you have big stretches of rogues
there's no triffic, and then a whole lot of bunches
that can't clear themselves.

Speaker 2 (58:14):
So how does the speed effect how does the speed
effect the clearing?

Speaker 11 (58:18):
Well, when you have a roundabout and the traffic gets
to slow down or stop and then the and that clears,
and there's a whole bunch of cars maybe ten or
fifteen and the line and they can only go at eighty.
They stay in that line till they get to the
next roundabout. Okay, and so you get big bunches of congestion.

Speaker 2 (58:41):
Great, okay, there's Sue. Thank you for that. Marcus. Are
you up to date with the swarm of quakes and Topoor?
Several defense of a good post and Jonnet posted two
regards Rebecca. So someone says, what's going on at TV
ends it? Daniel got the bootons interphere as elchphere we'll

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announce themselves the other of them and mentioned at Rudeau.
I'll watch anymore. That's what happened. But some of good isn't.
Daniel got another gig extant and road works on the
Harbor Bridge down to one lane going north, big queues.
That's from Kirsty. Thank you Kirsty. I'll see what Civil
Defense is saying about Topauw quakes. We're keeping an eye

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on the swarm of the earthquakes in Topoor. These are
really common in the area. We'll update of things change
in the meantime. Here are some handy hips from the
local Civil Defence team. If you're nearby. It just says
stay in bed and pull the sheets and blankets over.

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You cover your head and neck with your pillow, hold
on to the shakestops. So it's quite a lighthearted, humorous tone.
Oh hey, guys, twelve away from at ten o'clock markets
till midnight tonight. I hope it's going well where you are.
It seems as though there's a combination of extant and

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scheduled ro works on the Auckland Harbor Bridge. If you've
got an update about that. Southern text earlier instead that
they were upset that the curen On Remp was closed
without much notice. By the way, there is a steamboat
on fire at Walkworth and police are controlling a large crowd.

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That will be historical. Boat police have stepped into ConTroll
a huge crowd after a steamboat caught fire next to
walk with Worth Walkworth, Walkworth Wolf in Northorkland this evening.
A Foreign emergency spokesman said firefights were called to blaze
at eight twenty seven pm on a steamboat at Walkworth Wharf.

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The boat was well involved upon arrival and part of
the warf was on fire. The owners now arranging for
tagboat to take it to a boat rent where he
will be able to fully distinguish the fire and the
owner of attempt to refloat it. Now, I don't know
what that boat would be. There is a scowl there

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and a small tender. Is that right? I would think
probably it's a historical worthwhile one. If you've got some
information about that. I thought the doold he was there.

(01:01:37):
I'm just looking at now about the river wharf. What
boats was there? The Jane Gifford is there, and the Kotari.
If always got any more information about that, I'd be
interested to know some more about that. It's heartbreaking either way.
But yeah, I was just up there recently looking at

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that wolf and seeing the boats that were there, maybe
to replica little One, the little steamboat that is up there. Anyway,
I can't see the name on it. Jan Marcus, good evening, Welcome,

(01:02:22):
Hi Jen.

Speaker 16 (01:02:23):
Hi there Marcus. Which wharf is on fire?

Speaker 2 (01:02:28):
There's a steamboat at the wharf at walk With north
of Auckland.

Speaker 16 (01:02:32):
Oh oh, it's no good, no no. That crash in
America with the plane and the helicopter. That helicopter was
air Force and should have landed at a different airport.
I think they got I'm a bit confused about which airport.

Speaker 7 (01:02:54):
They were at.

Speaker 2 (01:02:56):
Is is the information you know or is that what
you're speculating.

Speaker 16 (01:03:02):
I heard it on Aljia's era.

Speaker 2 (01:03:04):
Okay, thank you for that.

Speaker 16 (01:03:06):
Saw all the social as well. Okay, yeah, No, I
was watching the UK bake Off. Do you ever watch that?

Speaker 2 (01:03:20):
I'm aware of it. I don't think I've ever watched
an entire show.

Speaker 16 (01:03:24):
Oh it was really good tonight. And boy, when I
get hungry when I'm watching that bake off program, and
I know I'm going to get hungry, so I have
to have something ready to wheat. Well, i'm watching it.
So I made some jelly raspberry jellie and a whole
of berries in it. Do you have berries down?

Speaker 2 (01:03:46):
And in the cargo we have a lot of blueberries.

Speaker 16 (01:03:50):
Oh, we have some blackberries and raspberries and strawberries and blueberries.
And so I put a whole of berries in the
jelly before it's set and had it with some ice
cream and custard. Retreat. That was my little wonderful event

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for the exning.

Speaker 2 (01:04:12):
What were they making on the bake Off?

Speaker 16 (01:04:15):
Ah ah, sorts of sponge cakes and they did some
amazing things that the technical thing. The last part, and
they had to make something that was perceiving, you know,
it looked like a chicken, or a play, a pair

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of jeans or things like that. And like one guy
made a step of books looked like and acted just
like books, and they had cakes inside them. Who was
a cake?

Speaker 2 (01:04:53):
The host of that one? So I know that some
people left and stepped their own show? Is that right?
Is Mary Berry? Is she the host on that one
or she on the other one?

Speaker 16 (01:05:00):
Not for a long time?

Speaker 2 (01:05:02):
Oh, she was good, Pip.

Speaker 16 (01:05:04):
I think her name is Pip posh lady.

Speaker 2 (01:05:08):
Oh, yeahsh aren't they do that well? They do posh
well in the UK, don't they.

Speaker 16 (01:05:14):
Oh she's a very wealthy woman. She's about eighty something
that she's very sprightly. And then a young fellow, the
blondie fellow that has a motorbike. He's very handsome and
quite cute.

Speaker 2 (01:05:30):
Are you feeling the are you feeling the quakes from Topol?

Speaker 5 (01:05:33):
There?

Speaker 16 (01:05:35):
I'm in longa, Yui, No, I don't in your toast? Okay,
have you got time for me to talk about hoarding?

Speaker 9 (01:05:48):
No?

Speaker 2 (01:05:49):
No, I thought I want to talk about the quakes,
but that didn't seem I tried the Segway with you,
but you didn't bite on the Segway, so you gotta
be Segway aware. You can't leave me. I thought you
want to talk about the quakes. I did think that
the probably the tie of the Silver Defense message was
quite slightly weird, but that's for me. Marcus. One of
my favorite artist sector Teapot's. Unfortunately for her shit to

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live all your life with the nickname bestowed upon her
by a Five Sisters potty. I never knew her real
name until her funeral. We're talking hoarding and the great
things you've bought at garage sale. Someone got amestered on
tusk yes and hy seven sharps so late at coming Back,

(01:06:34):
and they didn't talk about the end of TV. But
when there's shows people want to watch, they don't come
back from after about six weeks. Break is short, and
street back on you Dan not till February the tenth.
People will go spare. Get in touch Marcus till twelve

(01:06:57):
eight hundred and eight Teddy and nineteen nine t six
is something I just want to talk about. I am
here for that, so you do get in touch, Marcus.
I had a Honda s L one two five Trilbick
was fifteen nine seventy five and now have a collection
of thirty five Hondre Triumph BSA and Haley Davidson motorbikes.

(01:07:18):
Too many, but fun it must cost you a lot
to register them, or would it? Or is there a
special collector's license? Thirty five motorbikes is a lot. Welcome
Marcus to a midnight romance from Funny. What we misread?
I'm sure I read an article the other day that
Quantas was getting rid of the uniforms. Did anyone else

(01:07:40):
read that? And the cab and crow were cab and
crew were going mufty? And I can't did I dream it? Now?
I see the uniforms having a redesign. I'm sure I
read that they were going mufty. You know that's a.
That's a that's a it's a big step. Anyway, it's
clear not the case. So there we go. I found
that out. So that's something hoarding. The fine line between

(01:08:05):
collecting and hoarding. Tell me how bad things are at
your place. You might have a four bedroom house and
the grandkids have come to stay and there actually in
a tent out in the backyard or a nearbnb down
the road because it's too much clutter for your quilting,
et cetera, et cetera. Also looking at so if you

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get a new information about the airplane crash are always interesting.
First big crash of the state since two thousand and nine,
that's sixteen years, which just goes to show how safe
aviation is. And the big plane crash was that one
over New York. And I remember seeing articles they almost

(01:08:49):
recreated the whole plane in a hangar. It was unbelievable
or anything about that because just while we are talking
about that, and I'm pretty sure they think it was
a missile. Should remember even got the information anyone watched
air crash investigates about that because I'm interested in this stuff.

(01:09:11):
American Airlines flight five eight seven. Yeah, maybe I've got
that one wrong, but I'm sure there was a story
that there was some sort of a missile at them.
I might have got that one wrong, actually, but you've

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got some information about that. Always interest in that sort
of stuff to get in touched you on to talk
hoarding mainly, oh eight hundred and eighty Taddy in nine
to text Laurie Marcus welcome.

Speaker 5 (01:09:50):
Yeah. I think with hoarding or collecting it gets to
the stage where it's you get pleasantly surprised when you
actually find something you didn't know your head.

Speaker 3 (01:10:06):
I know exactly what you're saying, where do I.

Speaker 5 (01:10:11):
Get that from? It becomes quite a joy.

Speaker 2 (01:10:16):
It's a bad sign.

Speaker 5 (01:10:18):
Yeah, But the talking about the crashes around New York,
because it was quite that one was so special when
the that guy managed to land it on the river and.

Speaker 2 (01:10:27):
It's right scully on the huts here.

Speaker 5 (01:10:29):
Yeah, yeah, it was fantastic. But hey, just touching on
you when you've got that big doc file going on
next to you there now. Yes, just as a matter
of interest. A couple of weeks ago, I think I
mentioned to you before Christos was going to be going
down and doing some photography of Codfish Ireland. If you

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do you check your email, there's an attachment there. I
was one of the canopy there.

Speaker 2 (01:10:55):
I've seen, I've just seen. I've just seen that and
it's extraordinary, isn't it amazing? And then's all and that
is a little rata.

Speaker 5 (01:11:03):
Yeah, I assume it is. Yeah, it's actually the people,
it's quite fresh. The folks haven't actually done the fall
of evaluation of it yet. But really what they're trying
to do is actually map how much removes there because
that's you know, the that's what feeds the cacapo. Uh
and a good it's only only breed when there's a

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good year with the with the the remove berries. You know,
they have a mask. But but so Laurie has for
those that don't know, Codfish is on the west side
of Stuart Island.

Speaker 2 (01:11:37):
Has codfish always been predator free? Have they done some
work there with that?

Speaker 5 (01:11:41):
I don't know all history. I think they must have
done a lot of work there on it here. I
mean there's there's bordered walkways. Apparently when when they start breeding,
they bring in a whole lot of extra cod I mean,
dock people and volunteers and eventually visually one to one
they stay with the breeding bird day and night. But

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I wasn't expecting that sort of color. Basically, we shot
over there, and yeah, it was just amazing.

Speaker 2 (01:12:13):
Did you get any shots? Did you get any shots
of Bluff Hill? I just wonder what the canopy looks
like above from Bluff Hill? Did you get any shots
of that?

Speaker 11 (01:12:20):
No?

Speaker 5 (01:12:20):
I didn't come over. I just come straight off from
the cargo and straight across. Yea, And yeah, there was
not one too much missing around we was. There was
a bit of cloud about and we just sort of
managed to sneak and it was back on the twenty
first of I did. I hadn't realized before that they

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actually land aircraft on that beach, the people in and
out with the birds and all that stuff. But it's
so the you eventually, well, I mean the imagery will
just go off and they'll do the rema mapping and
I said, will help them with their planning stuff like that.
It's just an incredible blaze of color. I never seen

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any globes like the show.

Speaker 2 (01:13:06):
The photo it for those that I described the photo,
so it's the canopy of and it's just well, yeah,
it looks like it almost looks like an undersea moss
or coral. It's so amazing.

Speaker 5 (01:13:17):
It a lot of it. Some of that they're like
coral heads, a lot of those. And I've done a
lot of photograph photography, you know, around South Pacific and
Micronesia as well of different canopy and I've never seen
anything quite like that. Yeah. Yeah, I did some last
year up in the Cook Island of Tongue when the
flowering the African tree was in flour and that's read

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almost like that coral and there's parts of it, you know,
partially quite comfortable with the rest of it. The canopy
is nothing.

Speaker 2 (01:13:47):
Like did you hear the did you hear the reaction
from the head biscuits where they surprised when they could
see it from above? The people that had worked there,
have they not seen that when you were?

Speaker 5 (01:13:55):
They? No, no, they haven't seen it, basically a lot
of them. Yeah, So that's basically I thought went fresh
around two far and.

Speaker 2 (01:14:00):
I'm not going to do that. But that's unbelievable.

Speaker 5 (01:14:02):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, they'll make use of it. But yeah,
you know, it's interesting little flight I didn't actually get
the plane we originally just thought were ended up getting
in a sister and we flew out of originally had
a tiree. Oh yeah, yeah, which is interesting that Leffield,
the old supposed to see the little old N a

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c hangar still there too. Yeah, it's it's interesting that Affield.

Speaker 2 (01:14:28):
Did you think did you think some of the quake slri.

Speaker 5 (01:14:32):
The quake the other night was pretty you know, I
did feel the quake, and my wife she never felt
a thing. All of all the friends down there, everyone
was talking about it. Yeah, stick right through it. So, yeah,
it was. It was good.

Speaker 8 (01:14:49):
It was a good chap.

Speaker 5 (01:14:50):
It was good chap. Jolt all right, but nothing came
off the shelves. Yeah, it's it was quite impressive.

Speaker 2 (01:14:57):
Nice to hear from you, Larry Paul as Marcus. Good evening, Oh.

Speaker 4 (01:15:01):
God, how are you good?

Speaker 2 (01:15:03):
Thank you Paul.

Speaker 15 (01:15:05):
Just talking about it is. I was on an air
disaster in nineteen eighty nine just out of Honolulu who
blew a four hundred square foot hole on the side
of the plane and sucked out nine people.

Speaker 14 (01:15:16):
Wow.

Speaker 15 (01:15:17):
So I was three three rows back from the hole,
but fortunately I was on the other side of the plane,
so there's a ga entry between me and the hole.
But to date, I think that plane is still actually flying.
I think it was fixed up and actually put into
services as an air freighter.

Speaker 2 (01:15:35):
So this was what was the type of the type
of plane.

Speaker 15 (01:15:40):
So United Airlines seven four seven in nineteen eighty nine,
a United flight eight around eight one one. It's been
on one of those documentaries may Day May Day documentaries
quite a few times now. It was a flight number
a United flight eight one one.

Speaker 2 (01:15:58):
So you came up and the door blew off in
a hole was ripped out the side of it and
they managed to reland at Hawaii.

Speaker 5 (01:16:06):
Am I right, yes, yes, that's correct.

Speaker 15 (01:16:09):
We're at twenty three thousand feet and the oxygen masks
came down, but unfortunately it was one of the oldest
planes in the United's fleet and the oxygen was actually
sucked out in the explosion. So the pilot took us
down to ten thousand feet in a well. We had
no option. We only had two engines, and we were
fully ladened for a ten hour flight back to New Zealand.

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And I think today it was still the heaviest seven
for seven to ever Land.

Speaker 2 (01:16:38):
Were you in business class?

Speaker 5 (01:16:41):
No?

Speaker 15 (01:16:42):
I wish I was only eighteen. No, I was road
twenty one, so I was just basically the gantry was
between me and business class.

Speaker 2 (01:16:50):
And what's the woorld gantry mean again?

Speaker 7 (01:16:53):
Oh?

Speaker 15 (01:16:53):
You know where they put all the you know, the
service gantry where they have all the oh yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:16:58):
Yeah, yeah, yep. I think that might be called the gallley.
Is that right?

Speaker 8 (01:17:02):
The galley?

Speaker 15 (01:17:03):
Sorry?

Speaker 2 (01:17:03):
Yeah, yeah, that's right. And there was and there was
there was a victim's father who campaigned for a long
long time for calls and it was to do with
something with the door, wasn't it?

Speaker 6 (01:17:16):
Yes?

Speaker 15 (01:17:16):
Yes, So one of the passengers that was actually sucked out.
His name was Lee Campbell, who was New Zealander from
Wellington and his father just happened to be an engineer
by trade, and he actually he actually ended up going
over there. And if you ever watched the made a
documentary it's on there and a lot of it explains

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about he actually proved the boeing in United Engineers all
wrong about how how the lucky mechanism worked, what started it?
Or was it a pan am flight going out of
JFK the door popped open to the secondary latch on
takeoff and that made the FAA issue a two year

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warning that they had to fix all the strength and
all the cargo doors and all the seven four sevens.

Speaker 12 (01:18:05):
And this was the.

Speaker 15 (01:18:06):
Oldest plane in the United's fleet and of that two years,
there was only six months remaining. And unfortunately, yeah, at
this door door came off worse and a lot of
passengers too.

Speaker 2 (01:18:19):
Had you been on holiday?

Speaker 15 (01:18:20):
Where had you been, Paul, I've been over I've been
over to England on my o E. So I was
actually returning home from my OE and I was it
was about my fourth leg. So at that stage I'd
been away nearly forty hours and we were we were
taking we were taking off out of Hallulu at one
am in the morning and there's a big thunderstorm and yeah,

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just huge explosion. The lady next to me had our
earrings actually sucked right off for rears tour earlabs in half.
I've got pictures of those little plastic cups actually embedded
in the ceiling. Yeah, pretty pretty amazing.

Speaker 2 (01:18:58):
And when you, if memory is right, when you got
to Honolulu, you went that will treated Is that right?

Speaker 15 (01:19:04):
No, we weren't because it was not long after the
lone could be a disaster. So of course what happened
is that the initial thought was that there was an
explosion and that it was actually a bomb. So we
were all actually held by not at gunpoint, but we
were held in a pre departure lounge under security until
all of us were interviewed by the FBI separately about

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what we thought it was and what we heard and
what have you.

Speaker 7 (01:19:30):
But yeah, and how long time?

Speaker 2 (01:19:34):
How long till you flew back to New Zealand.

Speaker 15 (01:19:37):
Well, I had no choice, been stuck on an island
in the middle of the Pacific that I think two
days later I flew back. Fortunately the upgraded me to
business class, the one business And I know of.

Speaker 2 (01:19:51):
People Paul, that that really affected them, that they you know,
it's changed their life. Was that what it was like
for you?

Speaker 15 (01:20:01):
Yes, I guess it really was initially because I was
actually training to be an airline pilot. So it obviously
put me off off that and it put my life
in limbo for a couple of years, just sort of
because I ended up going into litigation with going and
United for a couple of years. But I mean, look,
at the end of the day, it's still the safest

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way to travel. And just if you see pictures of
that plane, it is a true testament to the strength.

Speaker 4 (01:20:29):
Of these planes.

Speaker 15 (01:20:29):
I mean, to have a four hundred square foot hole
in the side of it and to be able to
land reasonably safely, it is a true testament has strong
they are.

Speaker 2 (01:20:39):
Did you have you talked to any of those people
that had died? Were they people that you hadn't met
on that flight?

Speaker 15 (01:20:43):
We all no, and I haven't so and did you can?

Speaker 2 (01:20:47):
I did you get settlement or is that do you
not want to answer that?

Speaker 8 (01:20:51):
Yes?

Speaker 15 (01:20:51):
I did I mean, it wasn't a life changing amount,
but ok, yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:20:56):
It should have been a life changing amount too, because
because the person who died with his father, that was
what was a life changing amount, because the guy has dyed.
So that's a bit of a silly thing to say, but.

Speaker 15 (01:21:05):
Yeah, they did get quite a large amount. I mean,
you know, when you talk about American settlements, mine wasn't
anywhere near that. But I know they got a very
big sediment obviously because you know, they lost their son
and everything. So but no, certainly, certainly, and it certainly
opened eyes to how, you know, how quickly things can

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go wrong, that's for sure.

Speaker 2 (01:21:30):
How long from the explosion till you landed.

Speaker 15 (01:21:35):
It felt like forever, but it was actually about twenty
three minutes. The pilot couldn't maintain level flight even with
two engines going full war, so we were sort of
in a controlled full and then when we did land,
we did land hot really fast because he was scared
that he was going to lose control of the plane

(01:21:56):
because we had no we had very limited flats, and
when we landed, we obviously he couldn't use reverse thrust,
so we landed. From what I understand, probably fifty fifty
percent faster than what he normally would and he just
jammed on the brakes on the wheels, and I think
he used half the runway available to him.

Speaker 2 (01:22:17):
Have you met have you? Have you met him?

Speaker 7 (01:22:20):
No?

Speaker 15 (01:22:20):
I really wanted to, and I think because I think
there was only a couple of flights away from retirement,
but a true testament to his skill. I mean, he's
an ex Vietnam fight pilot, and he basically said, as
soon as it happened, he threw the rule book out
the window and just they just flew by fuel.

Speaker 2 (01:22:39):
Fantastic, It's a fantastic. It's a fantastic story. I only
ask that I have spoken on the show and to
passengers that survived the plane. I think it was a
pretty ser waste plane that went through the volcano off Indon, Asia.

Speaker 15 (01:22:55):
And went into the glide.

Speaker 2 (01:22:57):
And they get together. I think I think they get together,
but that was one where they all survided. It didn't
have the tragedy of your one.

Speaker 8 (01:23:05):
Yeah, do you get to get then?

Speaker 2 (01:23:06):
Did you get together with any of the survivors.

Speaker 15 (01:23:09):
Yes, I've I've stayed in contact with with with with
three other survivors, and no, we we probably get together
once every couple of years and just just sort of
catch up and touch base. So so there has has
been a few good things come out of it.

Speaker 2 (01:23:24):
But did you did you? Did you have post dramatic
stress as all?

Speaker 15 (01:23:29):
Yes, yes, I did, yeah it sort of. Yeah, it
did hit me quite hard for a little bit. But
to be honest, the litigation was probably more traumatic than
the actual disaster itself. The lawyers really do what didn't
they just pay?

Speaker 10 (01:23:45):
What?

Speaker 2 (01:23:45):
Did they? How many? How many survived? Like two hundred?

Speaker 15 (01:23:49):
Yes, yes, but not not everyone went. Not everyone went
through the process of litigation, and I think some did
and then some chose to try, uh, you know, try
try to fight a little bit harder for what they
thought was right. And when you do do that, then
they do try and rip you to shreds and and you.

Speaker 8 (01:24:09):
Pull right right.

Speaker 2 (01:24:11):
The right thing would have been just because I think
they would have they been insured for something like that.
You'd imagined, wouldn't.

Speaker 15 (01:24:16):
They You think you'd be a certain amount. Yeah, But
the problem is because they were proven liable in so
many counts, whether or not that negates the insurance. I'm
not one hundred percent, to be honest.

Speaker 2 (01:24:29):
And they're still a thing. United the A lines. They
haven't gone bankrupt, do you'd have they they're still a thing?

Speaker 15 (01:24:34):
No, no, no, well pan end it obviously Lockerbie that
crippled pen M, but no United United to pulled through.
But back in the eighties there were probably about three
or four rather large disasters one after the other with United,
so they had quite a bad run.

Speaker 4 (01:24:52):
There for a while.

Speaker 2 (01:24:54):
Did you keep any memorabilia.

Speaker 15 (01:24:55):
Paul, I think I've still got a blanket that I
had and the you know, the life vest from underneath
and and don't do what they say on that they
don't inflake before you go out of the plane, because.

Speaker 2 (01:25:11):
A lot of did you go down the slide?

Speaker 15 (01:25:15):
Yes, yes, we all went down the slide. And you'll
be surprised the number of people that went down the
slide with the duty free bottles.

Speaker 2 (01:25:21):
I can't believe the FBI. I can't believe that happened.
They did. They give you a drink, seas and stuff
when you got to I suppose you just all drink
each other's judy free, did you? Yeah?

Speaker 15 (01:25:31):
I mean they you know, they gave some some water
and everything, but a lot of people were drinking the
duty free and they can't go into that rather late,
and I think a lot of people that consumed a
lot of the duty free straight because they did go
over the over the PA system and ask for judy
Free to be handed in.

Speaker 2 (01:25:49):
Did people drink the duty free before the plane landed?

Speaker 15 (01:25:54):
No, no, no, you couldn't. I mean, I mean when
they excuse me, when theed asked to happen, I didn't. Actually,
I knew a little bit about planes, and I'm not
comfortable in the water, so I didn't want to go
down in the water. The main fear was going down
on the water. Like I said, it was a thunderstorm,
so I didn't feel the plane turning around. So when
I was sitting next to the to the seat, so

(01:26:15):
when I did actually see the lights of Hollo Lulu,
I was so ecstatic. I didn't care about crashing into
the ground. All I thought was I just want to
be on I just want to be on the ground,
not not in the water.

Speaker 2 (01:26:26):
So and were feeling we're feeling sucked towards the hole.

Speaker 15 (01:26:32):
After then the initial explosion sucked out all the panels
around me and a lot of the ceiling off. But
after the initial decompression, it was just like you see
on the movies. It was just really windy, windy and noisy,
but surprisingly looking around the cabin, there was as silly

(01:26:52):
as it sounds, there was an air of calmness and
it's like people were just sort of sitting waiting.

Speaker 2 (01:26:59):
How are the how was the fa How are the
flight of tendants? Because that's really their time to not shine,
but that's that's that's really what they're there for. Were
they good?

Speaker 15 (01:27:10):
To be honest, I can't remember a lot. I know
the the flight attendants that were near where I was
were more concerned because I think there was a lady
just in front of me, a stewardess that was trapped
under some skis or in that immediate forercinity because that's
where the seats were sucked out, so there was a

(01:27:31):
lot of damage there and trapped there.

Speaker 2 (01:27:34):
And that's one of the planes. That's one of the
planes where the two stories that it's got the pot
up the.

Speaker 15 (01:27:38):
Top of two yeah, yeah, yeah, seven four seven. And
also the I think we're the fastest evacuated, like they
they had that entire plane evacuated and under sixty seconds,
and I mean you're talking wow something passengers with.

Speaker 2 (01:27:51):
How many how many slides three.

Speaker 15 (01:27:54):
I think there's six in total, there's three.

Speaker 2 (01:27:57):
Each side, and just saying go, go go, yeah.

Speaker 15 (01:28:02):
Yeah, pretty much we were out of there. Even with
some people grabbing Judy free, we were out of that
plane and under sixty second. I didn't actually I knew
there was a decompression. I didn't know quite how bad
because I got off on the left hand side of
the plane, the opposite side to the hole. And it
wasn't until seven hours later that I saw in the
Honolulu Stay and they were handing out the newspapers even

(01:28:23):
though the plane was sitting directly outside where we were.
Obviously we're on the good side of the plane. It
wasn't until we got the newspaper about seven hours later
the raretally saw how big the hole was.

Speaker 2 (01:28:34):
Wow, Hey, Paul, very generous, very generous of you to
tell I'm going to go for headlines, but very generous
to tell us a problem to tell. Yeah, that's that's
an unbelievable story, Paul, And thank you so very much
for that.

Speaker 14 (01:28:46):
Wow.

Speaker 2 (01:28:46):
You go Google up a shot of it, because it's
it's an iconic shot of It's an aircraft with messive
hole about the side of it well, unbelievable story. Unbelievable story.
Someone says, make that call about the play, exit the
call that I no hitting, no kidding, Marcus. That may

(01:29:16):
Day about the Hawaii flight was on the other night
on TV. I couldn't sleep after it free distressing, amazing
to hear Paul talk about it. Yeah, oh that's interesting.
Thank you for that, Matt, Matt's Marcus flight AA. That's
American Eline five eight seven. Initial speculation were varied because
it happened so soon after the nine eleven hijackings. The

(01:29:38):
actual reason was due to incorrect pilot training around ruddy
use during flights, which lead to the vertical stabilizer separating
from the fuselage, rendering the plane uncontrollable. The Air Florida
flight that ended up on the Potomac that was down
to pilot error related the ICIC conditions at the time.
That's right. The Buffalo dash Ape crash was also I

(01:30:01):
think Bombardier but yeah, is that the same thing? Also
related to pilot aera chairs met Marc's I know two
women who are surrounded by quilting clutter. It's a nightmare.
They are organized, but it's still out of control. They
travel all over. I've just been in eighty k's now
and this road is ridiculous. Oh, people can't have to

(01:30:26):
talk about the speed, can they? Marcus rehoarding, I remember
it quite from a movie Things You Own, Own You
TV did holidays? What do they think people are watching
while their saintly staff take their excessive breaks great way
to get more loyalty and underpin their ongoing existence. I
for one, will be no longer chilling into TV and

(01:30:47):
Z or six A. Yeah, I think you're right there
about that. I mean, God, the primary school kids have
months off on holiday, but if you're running a regular show,
you think you'd be back a bit sooner. It does
seem as Yeah, I think it. I think it causes

(01:31:07):
a strange attitude towards it. We're talking about TV shows
taking such a long break for the summer. Yeah, I
don't want to. I mean, I don't want to get
all I don't want to get all pious about it.

(01:31:31):
But I don't think TV is need a job that
requires and I don't think the job is so texting
it requires extraordinarily long holidays be no harder than being
a police That's what I'm saying. So why would they
give themselves such long breaks. I suppose they could say

(01:31:52):
they need that time off to I mean, they might
be out there filming stories. They might be doing that,
but I'll be surprised anyway, bring them home sixteen from eleven.
The people of just into row Man will be long
after midnight. There might be some Yeah. So such a

(01:32:14):
great call that too, by the way, So I'm still
kind of digesting on that information. Always the case with those,
it's always like the pilot's second last flight, like Sully
it was his last flight. But what about that, like
a Vietnam pilot said he threw the rule book out.
Amazing stories. I will never forget talking to that. It

(01:32:35):
was about probably on the show about seven eight years ago,
talking to a woman that survived that the plane where
they flew through the volcano and all all four engine,
four engines, all four engines just stopped and they didn't know,
but the plane just glided and the pilot just the
whole time just kept restarting the engines, trying to restart
the engine. And right before I think maybe something that

(01:32:57):
maybe the engine's cleared, but just before they hit the
ocean or land or whatever it was. But yeah, the
plane started again. Books have been written about that. Of
course they have been. Why wouldn't they be. Marcus love
finding designer clothing at charity op shops. I've certainly found
my fair share of Ralph Laurene polo shirts and even

(01:33:18):
clothing items from brands such as Barkers and great condition,
even greater prices. Problems trying to figure out if it's
Ralph Larene or knockoffs. Doesn't matter if it's a knockoff,
does it? As long as it where's all right? That'd
be my take. But yeah, great discoveries from op shops,
secondhand shops, garage sales and who reckon suspects they're a

(01:33:42):
hoarder because they've got rooms full of junk. You don't
own things, things own you. I often think of these people,
like the man with his four hundred and seventy six
thumb press oil containers, that I think it's Judy bound

(01:34:03):
on anyone that's a collector slash hoarder to resolve their
collection before they shuffle off, because it must be a
terrible thing to leave children something that you've devoted your
life to that they're not really interested in, because they'll

(01:34:27):
miss you when you die, and they'll want to hold
onto the things that meant something to you. But yeah,
then they've got a room full of oil cans, haven't they.
So yes, I think it's a very important thing is
to resolve your collection before you die. Otherwise, sometimes your
knop shops and they you know, you get to a

(01:34:48):
n opshop and there'll be sort of a suitcase with
five thousand teaspoons or something so cheapest, creepers that someone's
life's work, or pens, but all worthless, of no value
to anyone. But yeah, don't even know what to do

(01:35:11):
about that. It is eleven from eleven. My name is Marcus. Welcome,
I am looking at and if you want to start
some different topic, I think we've gone from topics. Someone says,
what's sort of between hoarding and collecting. I'd say no difference,
probably a state of mind. But what I want to
know when I watch those programs about hoarding, between hoarding

(01:35:35):
something like old newspapers and hoarding money, I mean, what
about these people that hoard so much money they've got
no need for. Don't never say that there's psychic got
psychiatric problems? Do they? Hoarding is different from collecting and

(01:35:59):
the collecting is organized and systematic. YEP collectors tend to
be more organized, often with a specific theme or a
plan for the collection. They take pride and displaying and
maintain their items, while hoarders struggle with disorder and clutter.

(01:36:22):
I take no joy watching those hoarding shows. I remember
I only watched it once. I think there was a
man who think his wife had died or something like that,
and he shared his house with hundreds of rats because
he felt less slightly. It was horrible. I couldn't imagine
why you do that, but anyway, that was him, Marcus.

(01:36:47):
Twice I have taken a treasure home from the op
shop realized a bit further down the line they were
pieces I had donated to them. I try very hard
not to hoard multi Evening, Marcus, have you been affected
by the fire at Tea? Why point? Maybe we can
send some of the rain from hotter fen or A. I'
been grizzly and showers all day and forecast to go

(01:37:08):
into the night, grateful vecchy growing chairs, Maureen. No, all
I can say is I drove home last night and
there was a real orange glow over Tea. Y But
I used to be on Bluffy's Facebook page, but I'm
not allowed on it anymore. I don't quite know why
I applied for it but can't get on it. So
I didn't get all the latest information. But I drove

(01:37:33):
back down to Bluff. I'd been in town town day
with the car and stuff like that, in an escape
room and the child starting an intermediate school. They have
a day where you drop off the stationary who knew
it's all different since my dam on you, my day
was fifty years ago. They're not I'm interested what's happening

(01:37:54):
on social media? You don't bring that to school, So
they say, anything to do with social media, we'll have
nothing to do with a lot fair enough anyway, Yes,
driving home a lot of smoke over Tea Way, quind
a lot of brown duty spoke in the year, so
that's quite a big fire. And choppers fueling up at
the local helicopter port also flying over there also, So yeah.

(01:38:21):
It seems to be in every three or four years
and does a lot of damage too. It's takes a
long time for those witlends to recover. I think last
time they charged the people that started it. I don't
know if there's been an investigation with this crowd. Neil,
it's Marcus, greetings and welcome.

Speaker 7 (01:38:40):
Hello, ut you Marcus, it's rich here your voice you
were well missed. Yes, now then, Marcus, what I was
wondering two things if i'm here, sir, One that these
hercules aircraft are there for the strap or are they
resaleable someone?

Speaker 2 (01:38:59):
I'll have to ask someone else for that. I don't know.
I think one's going to a museum mostly en up
in Africa, don't they.

Speaker 7 (01:39:06):
Well, that's what I was thinking.

Speaker 2 (01:39:08):
It's a good question.

Speaker 7 (01:39:10):
Yeah, yeah, I wondered, you know, because I mean the
sixty years old but they're still still flying. And the
second thing, Marcus was very interested about the earthquakes in
the Taupo region. Two point one, two point three, et cetera,
et cetera. What is what? What are they measuring? What

(01:39:37):
does the two point one or the whatever? What does
it represent? That figure?

Speaker 2 (01:39:43):
I'll find out about that too, deal. I think it's
the size of the shake. I think it is a logarithmic,
so a three point one is teen times larger than two.
But yes, it's the strength of the quake. That's a
good question. I'll google that for you. dB. It's Marcus Good, evening.

Speaker 8 (01:40:00):
Good even the quake used to be the old Richter
scale that they'll call us the mi just get out
of my head.

Speaker 5 (01:40:09):
Yea.

Speaker 2 (01:40:12):
He was a nudist.

Speaker 8 (01:40:15):
Sorry.

Speaker 2 (01:40:16):
Rich Richtor, I reader's biography is a colorful sort of
a unit and nudist.

Speaker 8 (01:40:23):
Wow, yeah, you know I've read about him.

Speaker 2 (01:40:27):
No, well, in a poet. I've got the book. I
could send it to you. I don't know why I
read it because I can't remember much of it. But
he he's a nudist, which seems to and no one
would have picked that, and I think that might.

Speaker 4 (01:40:42):
Have been my why.

Speaker 2 (01:40:47):
I mean, because you know, free thing. But he was
an American too. He wasn't like a because you always
saw as a German or something, wouldn't you.

Speaker 8 (01:40:59):
Yeah, it sounded germinal Polish as a name, but they
had a fear in flux. I don't know when the
Richter scale came in.

Speaker 2 (01:41:09):
I think it might have been in the fifties, because
I thought it was a lot older, and I actually
started reading about it, I realized it was sort of
he was like a Californian Charles Richter. He brought an
ears and yeah, he's a nudist. I don't know why
I keep saying that, but there was the most staggering
thing about the book, Personal Life. Personal Life. Richter wasn't

(01:41:31):
active and avowed naturist. He traveled to many nudist communities
with his wife, who died in nine seventy two.

Speaker 8 (01:41:40):
Similar book Intention to Beat to the Nightcamps four Square.

Speaker 2 (01:41:44):
There they're good people there, boy, they're good people. What
a good shot they run, What a great shot they run.
So I'll tell you what. I'll drop it up to
the fourth square I'm looking for. We'll get some blueberries,
or Toto will come up your way. We'll leave it
at the four square.

Speaker 8 (01:42:02):
Thank you for that.

Speaker 2 (01:42:03):
No, no, no worries for that. That I'm looking for
a drive through western Southland, Okay, but I don't. Yeah,
he kind of like boardy ballads and stuff. He was
kind of slightly slightly problematic. I mean, I think these
days he would have been. I think these days he
would have been where he has been canceled.

Speaker 8 (01:42:22):
I'd like I'd have to be called slightly problem with it.

Speaker 7 (01:42:25):
Oh, I like that title anyway.

Speaker 8 (01:42:28):
One of my teachers once described me as earnest that
had been flawed for.

Speaker 2 (01:42:32):
Years Okay, now what did you ring up about it?

Speaker 8 (01:42:35):
Anyway?

Speaker 2 (01:42:37):
The crash.

Speaker 8 (01:42:38):
Yeah, in this information age, Broncoalio, who's a captain on
suppose quite large white body, debts he has an aviation
channel and he's already got the radio broadcasts from these
two aircraft.

Speaker 2 (01:42:56):
Wow.

Speaker 8 (01:42:58):
And so you could hear the air credit appearances to
both of these aircraft. And he makes the point quite
clearly that the militair craft, although speaking to the ex
traffic control, is on a different frequency to the civilian
aircraft at once on kill, the other ones on negatives.
Well we all give in to that sort of stuff.
And he was created. The helicopters cleared behind the c

(01:43:26):
I J, which is the only bombardier, and then just
before they hit each other, the bombardier starts to broadcast.
I think he's saying, what the heck and at the
end of it, wow, So just amazing. Of course he's

(01:43:47):
also got the graphics of the flight radar, so you
can see the two flight paths. I don't know how
many it's to catch it so early, because when I
went looking for that, already packed in the flight path down,
which is fair out.

Speaker 2 (01:44:01):
What's the guy called bomballa Fronclio and see on YouTube. Yes, gee,
he sounds good.

Speaker 8 (01:44:12):
He's very insightful and a straight talk too. So he's
got he flies ga for him himself. He's got a
couple of aircraft of his own, but his job is
sly and wide body jets. And there was quite explaining

(01:44:32):
how he was recertified after COVID. It took him six
months to get back fully certified for flying chests.

Speaker 7 (01:44:40):
I can imagine my aviation is so safe.

Speaker 8 (01:44:45):
I mean retested every two years, their check flight and
every six months.

Speaker 2 (01:44:53):
So just back because I'm excited that you've done the
research TV, because it's it's good to get such a
well informed talkback call. But whose fault is an air
traffic control's fault or the helicopter's fault or the bombardier's fault.

Speaker 8 (01:45:09):
The Bombardia is on a stable approach into three three,
Ronald Reagan, so he's doing his that. Yeah, he's on
into a landing glideslope. His business machine is doing what
It's a good chance that the pilots at touching the

(01:45:31):
controls under a pilot. The helicopter was given a clearance
to pass behind the bombardiers. So from that little bit
of a passion, I would say it's the helicopter's done
something wrong.

Speaker 2 (01:45:51):
But that's also a traffic controls follows it, because the
traffic control should prevent that from happening. Is that not right?

Speaker 8 (01:45:56):
The wrong given them the instruction to give them air separation,
which then wasn't carried out. Okay, is what I've got
from broccol Areas. And in the cr JAY these guys

(01:46:20):
are looking out the side when they're trying to land
on a runway. There's the pilot flying will be looking
out the front windows to make sure he's on the
glides over, the pilot monitoring will be looking down inside
the cabin and all the instruments. Yeah, that's just what
I've done. And those two jobs are disposable. That they

(01:46:43):
fly in sector each is normal. So they and they
may not be aware of the helicopters, even though they
should have collision of avoidance electronics to say someone entered
your bubble. And that's going to be the interesting part.

(01:47:05):
Why these and I've forgotten the equadent for the collision alert.
What about a collision alert didn't go off.

Speaker 2 (01:47:15):
The guys The guys either way, keep going.

Speaker 8 (01:47:20):
Either way here of Trichard.

Speaker 2 (01:47:22):
Yeah, absolutely, But the guy is onto it quick with
his YouTube channel.

Speaker 8 (01:47:25):
Oh he is, he is standing. I get a lot
of you know, sometimes I about other things. He's I
don't like to talk about it until I've had a
couple of I usually like too authenticated thing that this
guy is one of them.

Speaker 2 (01:47:43):
Appreciate, appreciate it. If you're going to move a bit,
nice to talk to you. Thank you very much that
I'll get that book to you when I can find it.
Who's at skilled tomorrow? This is back at work, de
visit school tomorrow, so it's in the last ones at
school on Monday. So almost back to me. Be able
to watch selling sunset during the daytime, relaxing on the couch.

(01:48:08):
I can't wait. Just having to look productive during the daytime.
Trouble your work nights is if you can't relax during
the day because people think you're lazy. Because I see
me working nights, I'm not going to go home and
kick out bob'sy die. So during the daytime, that's my evening.
But no one ever understands that, think, oh, what are
you doing asleep on the couch in the middle of

(01:48:28):
the day. No one ever understands that. So happy to
be back into my routine. I can't wait. What's keeping
me going? What did you want to say? Helgart's Marcus welcome.

Speaker 5 (01:48:47):
Well.

Speaker 17 (01:48:47):
I looked up to Papa and I had heard in
the past that tower Poem was still still super volcano.

Speaker 5 (01:48:55):
In the past.

Speaker 2 (01:48:57):
One of it was it was one of the big six.

Speaker 17 (01:49:00):
Yeah, of oz. And they read a book when I'm
dopeaning at the University of Auckland in the library. It
said that it was seen on the other side of
the world, the glow in the sky.

Speaker 2 (01:49:15):
I think London went dark for a month or something
a year because there was so much, so much ash.
Absolutely it went down.

Speaker 17 (01:49:23):
Maybe it's rattling under there now.

Speaker 2 (01:49:27):
Well they say it's not related. They say it's just
tectonic stretch.

Speaker 17 (01:49:32):
Yeah, but I mean computers and men don't. We don't
know anything really, Just like do you remember tut to
Ellison and not? Was it two thousand and something? Lui
pay who went up? You remember?

Speaker 7 (01:49:46):
Yes?

Speaker 17 (01:49:46):
And I was cleaning cars on the Great Sales Road,
toyto to green Lane and they arrived. The boss said,
this ash all over the car. You'll have to hose
it down and call dry them. So the ash traveled
all the way to Toyota Green Lane.

Speaker 2 (01:50:02):
I think it was a nineteen ninety four or nineteen
ninety five, am I right?

Speaker 17 (01:50:07):
Yeah, I think it was about that.

Speaker 8 (01:50:08):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:50:11):
How long did that ash take to get up there?

Speaker 17 (01:50:14):
Well, I don't know, but it must have happened the
next day because I work five days a week and
when I arrived that day, the ash.

Speaker 10 (01:50:23):
Was all over the cars.

Speaker 2 (01:50:25):
It's pretty amazing.

Speaker 5 (01:50:26):
Yeah.

Speaker 17 (01:50:27):
Well I used to hose and towel drive, but I
just said to hose. Yeah, so I reckon if you
look online, I reckon. That traveled all over New Zealand.
And when I lived on my hiki, they said there
was like a black glass from tail poss right, yeah
my hiki.

Speaker 2 (01:50:46):
You know, it was one of the great just exploded up.
The whole thing was like one of the biggest explosions
has ever been. Hey, thanks for everyone. I'm going to
go into the night.

Speaker 8 (01:50:53):
Yeay.

Speaker 2 (01:50:54):
Loved you all tonight and your contributions and looking forward
to talk to you again. To Romance next people, and
thank you very much for that guy. And then aeroplane story.
I love that and Rob clicking of those COVID masks.
What fascinating people, all of you lock it in. If
you need to, email me Good Marcus at NEWSTALKTHB, dot

(01:51:15):
co dot inteed, and I will talk to you from
eight pm tomorrow night.

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