Don't like the people who smoke them (20 August 2025)

Marcus asks about catios, vaping, the location of the Erebus Memorial, and hears from folks who saw (or heard) the C-5 Galaxy land at Whenuapai Airport.

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Speaker 1 (00:07):
You're listening to the Marcus Lush Nights podcast from News Talks.

Speaker 2 (00:11):
I'd be boo, how are you welcome? My name is Marcus.
Could have been with his twelve right through the vere
end tonight for change not anyway, get in touch if
you want to be a part of the show hit
or midnight tim Beverage along from twelve. It's Wednesday. It
might be the last second to last Wednesday of winter.
Although I know people are a bit funny about spring,

(00:31):
aren't they. Because spring starts first September, people say it
should start the twenty first of September. I am on
the feeds with this one. I don't think the seasons
themselves follow it. Well, No, that's the silly thing to
say for me. I feel the seasons are quite fluid.
Sometimes November feels like winter, sometimes April feels like spring. Anyway,

(00:58):
but yeah, I tell you what. People get controversial about that.
The northern hemisphere people, I think, well, of course they're
coming into autumn, but they do it on the twenty
first of September. I don't know what's more accurate. I
think probably doing it on the twenty first or the
twenty second seems to me to be less lazy because

(01:22):
whileld is season start on the first of the temper. Anyway,
you might want to comment on that. You might not
want to welcome. It's gonna be all an interesting night tonight,
hopefully Tonight in nineteen oh four was the first Well
this day in nineteen oh four was the first use

(01:43):
ever as the kei. We as the unofficial symbol of
New Zealand. H And what's good about the key? We've
been the unofficial symbol of us. We can't vote to
change it because it's not the official symbol. Sometimes I
feel to be nice to have a slightly what daylight
bird is our symbol? But who cares?

Speaker 3 (02:04):
Really?

Speaker 2 (02:06):
And see the boird uses a symbol that offer. But
you might want to comment on that. The old kiwi. Oh,
they're doing well, aren't They don't know. I don't know
how many Kiwis would be in the country. I spoke
to a guy yesterday said they're wandering around Wellington. They've
introduced them. They're good on them for that, and they
might be everywhere before we know it. Then we'd have
to get rid of the cats first, and that's probably
not somewhere I want to go talk about cats this
earlier on a Wednesday night, because that doesn't go well

(02:28):
as a tip talkback topic. Here's how cat topics go.
I say, what say we get rid of cats? And
people ring up and say, how dare you? We love
our cats? And it gets reheated very soon, and then
someone will ring up and they'll be apoplectic with rage,
and I'll say, have you thought of getting a cattio?
And then that will be the end of it, because
once I'm said kattio, it's topic completed. What a cattio

(02:49):
is is a patio for cats. It means that cats
can roam and go outside, but they're still contained. I
haven't got a captain. I've had a cat and have
a cattio. We just love saying it anyway. I don't
know if many people have cattios. There's some suburbs in
Canberra and Australia where to have a cat you need
a cattio. I don't know if I actually called kattios

(03:12):
see who actually got a cattio by out of interest?
What it costs to put up your cardio? Is it
worth it? And would there be a dog equilling of
a cattio? Not really? Would there anyway, So let's just
put that out there for starts, because yes, hopefully the
Kiwis will wander wildly around this country. There is talk
of bringing them on to Bluff Hill, which is that

(03:34):
big nob that where Bluff is on and that's kind
of full of native trees. Now, they did an extraordinary
job of reforesting that, and Kiwis could get in there,
and long may that last. Anyway, do get in touch
with your talk. My name is Marcus Welcome eight hundred
and eighty taty and nine two nine two to text. Yeah, so, cattios,

(03:59):
I'm just putting that out there of interest. Everyone's experienced
a cattio. People have done a dig deep dive in
so and I'll talk tell you more about that later. Actually, cattios,
we're on to cats. We're on to cats. Why don't
they wear a bell? What do we want? We want
cats or Kiwis. I often think of probably Gareth Morgan

(04:21):
had been slightly more diplomatic when he said that he
wanted to get rid of all the cats the probably
the discussion might have lasted a bit longer. But I
think people saw such an abrasive character. Everyone sided with
the cats anyway, Rosset's Marcus.

Speaker 4 (04:38):
Welcome, yeah home, Marcus. Look, in some states in Australia,
it's illegal to have your cat outside at night, and
that's the issue because he's so destructive. In New Zealand,
we're pretty liberal, so we just let that happen. Then
at the cost of the birds and the skunks and
everything else. So the skinks, so skinks, lizards, everything else.

Speaker 2 (05:00):
I was going to get you but yourself. Correcting with
the skunks would be great if we had those.

Speaker 5 (05:06):
That.

Speaker 4 (05:06):
In Australia, it's illegal for that because they're so destructive.
And the cat owners and the lovers over there don't
have a problem because they're quite mindful of the fact
that they've got to protect the other animals in their environment.

Speaker 2 (05:21):
I wonder why they're further ahead of that bettle than
we are.

Speaker 4 (05:25):
Well, they're quite sensible in a lot of regards. Some
things they're not that their regards and they just look
at the big picture and say, listen, I mean cats
are predatory. I mean they love to hunt and they
love to you know, that's the way they are in
their nature. And if people used to take them up
to the White tax at Christmas time and just let
them roam and within three days they become feral and

(05:46):
then they've got to fend for themselves. And it's quite
tragic when that happens, because I mean, they don't they
don't deserve that. They deserve loving.

Speaker 2 (05:55):
Environment, terrible life. It's a terrible life. Better feral cat
they go, they go. I wonder how they police that
in Australia.

Speaker 4 (06:03):
Well, it's just illegal. The councils do it.

Speaker 2 (06:05):
And what happens if they find a cat? You know,
how do they prove it? Jewels to end up in jail?

Speaker 4 (06:11):
Well, I think they've all they've got a lot of
them have to be chipped as well. Yeah, okay, so
they just do that and then they track them down
and it's quite severe fines for it. So people understand,
you know, their responsibilities.

Speaker 2 (06:27):
Okay, good, start to discussion.

Speaker 6 (06:28):
Rus.

Speaker 2 (06:28):
I appreciate that. Thank you. They'l kiddyos Jan Marcus welcome.

Speaker 7 (06:34):
Is it cold enough for you?

Speaker 2 (06:35):
It's quite warm fifteen degrees?

Speaker 7 (06:38):
Oh. Now about the cattio and you know, I'm a
cat lover.

Speaker 2 (06:45):
Didn't know that, but that's good. Yes.

Speaker 7 (06:47):
Oh okay. Now, if you lock cat cats up, and
especially if you put a collar on them with a bell,
and the rats are going to be having a wonderful
field time, aren't they multiplying by the billions throughout the country.

(07:07):
Will kill us, kill the kN we eggs and eat them.

Speaker 2 (07:13):
My research is shown that that theory is overdone. I
think that if it wasn't for the cats, the rats
would be overrun. But yeah, I mean, if that's what
you want to believe, that's fine, But that tends not
to be the case according to the research. But yeah,
I just don't necessarily want to get into a battle
with the cat owners tonight. I'm just interested if you
had a cattio and how that worked for them. Enjoy
saying katio Cole, it's Marcus welcome.

Speaker 5 (07:35):
Hell yeah, mate, my apologies, I have nothing to add
to this cattle or that's fine.

Speaker 2 (07:42):
You're welcome to talk about anything tonight.

Speaker 5 (07:45):
So in twenty twenty four, I lost my role in
governments in the first round. The cuts and the sim
have me out to find anything, and so what I
did is something that I've been doing for the last
ten years. Just as a side hustle is helping you
manage us find their feet. So a little bit of worship,
mentoring and so this week I've actually been running cons

(08:10):
free workshops right across the heart value I've just finished
one and aphart actually and yeah, just to give a
whole lot of value out of the community and see
what comes back. So I've launched my own leadership coaching business. Yes, great,
that is what we was doe and the responsiblectual being
really good so far.

Speaker 2 (08:33):
Can I unpick this call? You said in twenty twenty
four you lost your job.

Speaker 5 (08:37):
Where in government? Okay, I was an executive in government.

Speaker 2 (08:41):
Yeah, so you started a leadership what would you call
it program.

Speaker 5 (08:48):
Leadership coaching business as a side hustle about ten years ago.
The world's helping the old manager that was coming through
buying their feet, learn the basics, et cetera. Yes, and
then when I left my role last year in government,
I decided to get on qualifications behind me. So now
fully qualified leadership coach and I've launched my ownership business.

Speaker 2 (09:11):
So what does that mean?

Speaker 5 (09:13):
So the people that I'm helping one stepping up to
management for the very first time or ones that have
been leading for a couple of years. Two you just
need some direction, some support and some some basics. Two
set solid foundations, what's.

Speaker 2 (09:31):
Your what's your mentor? What's the key.

Speaker 5 (09:36):
Muchy is to is to build strong people leaders for
the future.

Speaker 2 (09:40):
Oh yeah, but there's no there's no mentres you tell
the people. Sorry, there's no mentors or things you tell people.
What's the great advice you give them?

Speaker 5 (09:50):
Well, the advice I give them is that the the
stuff that I'm going to teach you in this lesson
you'll be able to use straight away. It's not like
a course or anything vis a real life lesson learns
share my experience.

Speaker 2 (10:06):
What are they? What are those? What are those lessons?

Speaker 8 (10:10):
Oh?

Speaker 5 (10:10):
So it's everything from mindsets through leadership, through to leadership
traits and behavior. How to identify people's personality profile as
a key one, because then you start to learn how
to speak other people's language when you're around them.

Speaker 2 (10:27):
Yeah yeah, and and and why have you why have
you wrang the radio just to just to let people know? Well,
what's this about?

Speaker 7 (10:37):
Oh?

Speaker 5 (10:37):
Just sharing, the sharing the good wild Yeah.

Speaker 2 (10:40):
Yeah, but you're charging for it, are you?

Speaker 5 (10:44):
No? The workshops are free?

Speaker 2 (10:46):
Oh okay, let's see we go the something? How do
people get in touch with it? Therefore?

Speaker 5 (10:49):
Your col ah, they just I've just been putting posted
on the community pages here in the Heart Valley.

Speaker 2 (10:56):
Have you got a website or anything like that?

Speaker 4 (10:59):
Yeah?

Speaker 5 (11:00):
Yeah, because I sure do.

Speaker 7 (11:01):
What is that?

Speaker 5 (11:02):
Colin? Colin tiple hair dot me and.

Speaker 2 (11:05):
Spelled te p o phe brilliant Okay Colin to PAULI
dot nets love you to hear from your Colin. Good
luck with at eighteen past eight. I wait one hundred
and eighty ten eight nineteen nine two detect catos and
well leadership. I wonder if i'd be a good leader.

(11:27):
I suspect I probably wouldn't be. I don't know, though,
how would you know? Marcus? Only six weeks or daylight savings?
How fast the seasons go round? Shout out to Malika,
please hire Malika Marcus. I think you need to get
a katio as well, for no other reason than to
say your own one great talkback topic. I think that
there'd be a great business for someone to start, would
be a cato manufacturing thing, because they will become the rage.

(11:51):
People will start getting catos. I'm not saying they're going
to be legislated, but I imagine people will actually come
to the centers. I think a cato would be a
great thing to have. I don't think we've ever seen one, Marcus.
I think you need to get a for another reason.
Great talkback topic. Thank you, thank you, thank you, thank you.

(12:11):
Goodness getting touched by name's Marcus Hittle twelve. I'm expecting
breaking you. We've had no breaking news all year. For
a while there the queen was dying, there was earthquakes,
there was a while there was about four breaking newsers
at about four consecutive shows. These days, you go months
without any breaking is nothing happens? What's that about? Goodness? Woh,

(12:37):
maybe it's goud. It's all down to Trump anyway. Eight
hundred and eighty tirty and nine nine for anyone's experience.
The Australian cat laws and how they enforce those, because
I presume they microchipped every cat. Then they find a
cat that's stray, and they catch that cat that's stray,
and that's a bigger Then they work out what the
microchip is in, they go and find the owner, and
if it's not microchip, I suppose, then they microchip it

(12:59):
and put it in a home or euthanase would be
the answer, wouldn't it. But not in Denmark? No, and
Denmark off to the zoo hey, which seems for every
practical but also slightly creepy. Yes, because we've been following
that story about the zoo in Denmark that's asked for

(13:20):
pets to feed to their animals, and one thirteen year
old girl has given them her pony called Chicago fifty nine,
which I thought was a strange name for a pony,
but they fed that to the lions. That grim was
that kind of sensible? Anyway, it's aught about Catto's tonight
and leadership causes. I can still remember that guy's internet address.

(13:44):
Isn't that interesting? Leve it? Write it down, marveling at that.
Get in touch people, if your daughter to talk. Oh,
by the way, vaping, we haven't mentioned vaping for a while.
Vaping vaping, I'm a great fan of vaping is a
way to stop smoking. I'm not a van of vape shops.

(14:06):
I'm primarily I'm not a vape shops because they add
nothing to most of us that don't vape to shopping areas.
But they look just so boring for the workers. You
might as well have a machine in there on the phone, looking,
aren't they the vape shop people doing nothing? I don't

(14:27):
know what it's like working one of the shops. Anyways,
I would imagine over time that it will go online.
Wouldn't they sell them over them through the post? If
I was a vapor and I'm not, I'd be buying
my stuff online, wouldn't you? I wouldn't you. I went
to a vape shop once and the servers I got
was so poor. I mean not that I was I
was trying to get a pipe like a like a

(14:49):
like a wooden pipe that was a vape pipe. But
you know, sometimes you go to a shop and ask
for something and halfway through you realize that you've made
the mistake, but you've got to keep going because you've started.
And then you think, well, actually this is not going
to happen for me. But they said they might have
one in the shop in South to Eden, but they
wouldn't call the shop in South and Eden, So I'm thinking, well, actually,

(15:11):
not that even sure about they knew it was after anyway,
So was that probably where my time for vaping tuned?
But anyway, you study show if you start vaping at
a young age, you're probably going to go on to
start smoking. Yeah, those tricky old tobacco companies they know

(15:34):
what's going on, don't. They're all over vaping. They knew
full well. They got them young enough. If they got
them young enough hooked a sucking stuff and with flavors,
I'd get them on the smoke later on, because probably
the smoking gives you a kick that probably the vapes won't.
So yeah, maybe steer your kids away from those. I

(15:54):
presume most kids grow out of vaping. We haven't had
this hysteria we once had about vaping. I don't know
the numbers for a while. They're going to lock up
toilets at schools and do all sorts of things should
have no nicotine in them. And she was on prescription
highly addictive drug nicotine. You want to stay well clear
of it. This should have been the answer anyway. Horses bolted,

(16:16):
bolted bolted. So that's that tonight. But cartios is the
main thing for a start, I'll check vaping as well.
You might be vaping in your cartio. If that was
the case, you'd be a key caller for us. It
is World Hawaiian Pizza Day, just so you might need

(16:36):
to know about. That was designed by a Greek born Canadian. Yes, yes,
he created it. And because Hawaii just become a US state.
Everything was about Hawaiian, So there we go. Wasn't his

(16:56):
Toronto restaurant that he decided to have a Hawaiian pizza?
And I guess it was Hawaiian because of the pineapple?
Do you know if the pineapple came from Hawaii? Presumement did? Anyway?
Always delicious, always god great idea. It's one of those
things that probably tastes better with other stuff too, doesn't

(17:17):
it pineapple? It's always best cooked or mixed or something. Anyway,
Enough from me, twenty five past eight, looking forward to
hearing from you text about vaping and not vape later,
but giving up smoking a month and a half cold
turkey Year's ben, Thank you. I use vaping to give
up smoking and work very well. I am with you
and against the vape shops. They all set up shops

(17:38):
with a hype and in turn probably got a lot
of young kids ocked. Ooh, Marcus weed trapped feral cats
through it on sixty five days a year.

Speaker 6 (17:45):
We live rural.

Speaker 2 (17:46):
We catch five to six cats a year, like a
pole cat five k body weight, evil black and green eyes.
They reckon every cat you remove. Freeze up fifty square
kilometers of space. People dump them, big problem. You'd be
a more on to dumper cat, wouldn't you. I'm mateing
up in vaping six sixteen. I want to know any
good ways to stop, like any good quitting advice. I'd

(18:07):
cut down in your nicotine Marcus. Cheese and pineapple are
a perfect food combo. Yeah, it's because cheese is dates.
Cheese and dates Marcus. My boyfriend makes me wear a
collar and walk around on my knees holding the leash
sometimes when we play. So if I can do it,
soa can the animals. Not sure about the micro chipping though,

(18:29):
Jay from Queenstown Marcus is winning on Carey Woodham showing
you well told her that the brazier had arrived. What
are they more h I haven't seen that anywhere. We're
just see on the podcast Marcus our name as a
Cattio as their cat who Deni's escape artist that goes
to three day Wanders solve their problem. Positive story for

(18:50):
the Cattio. Marcus thoughts on cigars don't mind cigars, don't
like the people that smoked them, I guess would be
my thoughts on that, although I haven't seen someone smoking
a cigar for a long while. By the way, the
pineapple was from Paraguay and Brazil, introduced to Hawaii by

(19:12):
a mister Dole, and then he was into the Dole
pineapples and the canning of this. Yeah, and the food
is a symbol of Hawaii, and foods with pineapple in
them are known as Hawaiian dishes. So that's happening. My
name is Marcus WelCom Pedal twelve Oway, eighte hundred and

(19:33):
eighteen tenty and nineteen ninety. Right about catios of these
other topics you want to talk about too, And what
about the brazier. The brazes got to get that one, right,
I don't ever even know they had anymore, Marcus. The
brazes are at Mount Roscill New word I heard. I'll
say I'll say it again, Mount World, New World. Mount
Roscill have the brazes. I didn't get one, don't want one.

(19:56):
I found myself at night and day after work last night,
early this morning, at five past twelve, I said, I'll
get a pound of butter. I said, it's not until
a o'clock in the morning. I thought, well, I thought
it was all Wednesday. So that was a bit of
a con wasn't it Anyway, I've never seen a shops
full of such full of such processed goods. Yeah, you

(20:25):
look at going to a night day. I think jeeps, creeper,
Is that what people are eating? That was my thought,
to be honest. That sounds a bit judgmental, does it? Anyway?
It's all about the kto twenty eight away from nine.
This is Marcus Welcome eight hundred and eighty ten eighty
nine to nine two detects. Also World Mosquito Day today.
We've got to report these days about dingy fever, which
sounds unpleasant, doesn't it? Don't if anyone out there's head

(20:48):
dingy fever anyway. Oh, and the other topic beside katios
is vaping. You might be parents of teenagers. I assume
by listening to you callers and the discussions I've had,
that vaping in schools is not the hysterical problem. It
was three or four years ago. And I say that

(21:10):
in all arnesses. I got that right. Was the situation
that ignored and it's gone away, So I'm not hearing
the hysteria about that anymore. If you've got an opinion
or some experience with that, like those kids are on striking.
All the teachers are on struggling, and see kids wandering
around the streets vaping today. You might have and get

(21:32):
in touch with it if you want to nine nine
to detext if you want to come through now in
coming on flight radar now, I haven't got the full
text about that. What's that a text for? Is that
the sea? Is that the big plane? Is that what
you're saying? Could you tell me some more about that,
Princess Daisy? Can you see that Dan as the big

(21:56):
plane heading towards Dan? Bring up flight radar now, we've
got notification used to that one of those messive planes
was coming in to drop off the new Air Forces
Hercules simulator. We're supposed to the in at four forty five.
It must be delayed during the weather. I think it's

(22:17):
landing about now. Can you see it, Dan. I'll try
andload it as well. Send me some more of that email,
Princess Daisy, but old hand is it, Princess Daisy. I'll
try and get it tracked also, people twenty six to nine.

(22:38):
If you've got other breaking news where you let us
know too, I don't know what they would be. I've
agreed and closed and I'm moving up from Invercargoll to
go look closer to Auckland. Now I've made you said
the too big. It's taken forever. I'm there. I've got
there quicker than you, Dan. I've got all those planes
and I'm looking I look at the Fenuipai, aren't I?

(23:00):
Oh yeah, z no, what's that? I'm not good at
reading this? Are in ZAA based or all aviation? That's
a sister coming in? No more information about that. Twenty
five to nine. Hello Richard, Marcus.

Speaker 9 (23:14):
Welcome Marcus rich a good evening, are you yeah?

Speaker 2 (23:19):
Very good yourself?

Speaker 9 (23:21):
Oh yep, not very good, very good. Yeah. Hey, there's
a couple of books. You can go there online.

Speaker 2 (23:29):
Sorry, So I just tell people there's the planet's coming
and it's just in line with probably Carey Carey. Now,
so it looks like it's about half an hour away.
That's a situation that seems to be anyway, Yes, off
you go.

Speaker 9 (23:40):
Yeah, so it's written by all and how to Stop smoking,
how to stop vaping? Didn't he died a couple of Yeah,
but you still buy the books.

Speaker 2 (23:48):
But he would have died, and he would have died
before vaping, wouldn't he yeah, I only.

Speaker 9 (23:53):
Going to probably just rewrote it. I've had a couple
of mates who read them and they literally just stopped.

Speaker 2 (24:01):
I don't smoke. Yeah, no, no, no, Richard, Richard, that's
what I'm saying. The book tells you to do. You
tell yourself you don't smoke.

Speaker 9 (24:10):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (24:11):
Yeah, I think we've read it. We've all read all
and cow. I've loved it, read a number of times. Yeah,
but I think I think I think lunkeeads have got them.

Speaker 10 (24:22):
Okay, draws.

Speaker 9 (24:26):
I'm going to draw a comparison. You're probably going to
call me looney. But the government can, actually, the government
can actually stop this pretty much, the vaping and the
smoking pretty much straight away. Because if you remember, a
couple of years ago, overnight they passed laws for a
virus that killed through very little people, mandated a whole

(24:48):
lot of things, and they passed these laws overnight. They
could pass the law tonight and say no more smoking,
no more cigarettes, and no more shaping equipment to come
into New Zealand on such a day and pass it
and it can be done.

Speaker 11 (25:02):
Just like that.

Speaker 9 (25:03):
They prove they can do it, and they can actually
do it. So I don't know what I've just done.

Speaker 2 (25:08):
I think seven million died. I think seven million died
of COVID. Not in New Zealand, no, but around the
ways of reefew died from it. But that's but that's
seven millions, No, seven millions, no chump change. But yeah, Unfortunately,
I think the government's probably got quite close ties with
the tobacco people. I don't think it's in their interest.

(25:29):
They like the revenue that comes from it. It might
take on that one. Cheers twenty three to nine. I'm
looking forward to your calls. Allan Carr died of lung
cancer in two thousand, at two thousand and six and
age seventy two, so it wouldn't have been around for vaporing.
But I guess it's a big industry now. A lot
of people read his book Brought in Desperation. I don't

(25:51):
know if it worked for many. By the way, this
big plane, the plane, the plane, it's even big on
flight radar. This is the Lockheed C five M super
Galaxy's heading for Fanuapai and it is live now with
fang are So i'd say it'd be in fifteen minutes.
So if you are in west Auckland, head to the
airport and you might see it land. I would imagine

(26:14):
it's going to come and come over. I imagine it's
going to come over, walk with sands, but fung a paraua,
then down of a greenhithe So you might be in
for a bit of a tree, catch a shot if
you're out there at the airport, or something I wouldn't
mind seeing to. Of course, it's night, which is bad.

(26:35):
Can you please say a happy twenty seventh to Sharnie?
Hi Shannie, happy birthday. Oh oh, this is really good.
Thank you so much. This is probably the most telling
text I've had for a long long time. Good ay Marcus, Yes,
you are correct. The vaping issue is nothing like it

(26:57):
was when it first started three or four years ago.
I'm a school principal, and it's sort of disappeared off
the radar. I think, bloody goodness, because the real pain
of the backside of an intermediate principle. I have no
idea why it's actually stopped, which is interesting. I'm assuming
cost but there is an issue. It's around thieving of them. Anyway,

(27:18):
have a great night. I kind of think that we
just kind of ignored it. No one really got too
hysterical about it. That would be my take, Marcus. Don't
promote that butter story too much. It comes from the
opposition media company. Well, I think it comes from Night
and Day. Oh, I think we have relationships with anyway.

(27:43):
So yeah, it's not a big deal. I mean, I
know that jingle from here another radio all the time.
You've got it when you want it in your night
and Day store. But it was a gimmick. It was
a marketing gimmick for them. Good on them. But it's
not like Costco that really was committed to cheap butter.
This is just a one day thing to get people
into the night and Day stores night and day. But

(28:03):
they had no butter. And I went there at five
past twelve. It's amazing how many people in the dairy
at five past twelve, just sort of waiting for things, Marcus.
A lot of cars and camera, A lot of cars
and people at the air base and the cameraman so
you are sure to see a picture. Brilliant, Marcus. The

(28:27):
best way to let others know you like pineapple is
to hang a picture of a pineapple on your caravan door.
Thank you. Shaun Pomeranke is a cigar puffer not quite
sure what happened to the Pomerankees. I've watched the POMERANKI
said great with great enthusiasm, and boy, oh boy, our

(28:49):
wild family. This is bearing Sea Gold. Yeah, cheapest creepers.
They're hard shots. Marcus. I've been a smoke of footage years.
I just brought the side of my online. It's helped
me cut down immensely. It's a necklace like a pendant.
You put in a flavored filter and it just has
hole in it so you are breathing fresh air. The

(29:10):
filter also gives a bit of resistance like dragging. Would
never go to vape the vape way. It's a necklace. Good,
never stop smoking, Nicklas. What do you think that is?
Never heard of it. I'll google it up though, Oh

(29:31):
two sixty six on Timu. It's almost like a mindful nickle,
a mindful necklace to a breathing necklace. Never heard of it,
Marcus C five. Almost over great barrier now, thank you
didn't look like it was off over great bear and
flight radar. Oh, yes, there we go, so it'd be

(29:55):
great barrier. Then it will come and over Fung Pao.
I mentioned the Calm Ease necklaces from the Erralas shop. Yeah,
looks pretty sketchy to me. It looks just like a
really low reent vape because you put juice in it.
But it's just kind of analogue. I shouldn't judge Marcus.

(30:19):
My friend and West talking has a cato. It's a
small deck. They put that square plastic fence around it,
sliding door to excess that. The cat's name is Judy, Judy, Judy, Judy, Judy.
Marcus wondering why I toasted sandwich machine has an on
and off switch? You need it, doesn't it. Why doesn't
toasted sandwich machine have an on off switch because you've

(30:43):
got to turn on and off at the wall? Good point.
Don't know the answer to that. Hi, Dion, this is Marcus. Welcome.

Speaker 12 (30:50):
Hi, you're Marcus. I just called because pineapple is my
favorite food in the whole world, such as zure. But
I just wanted to tell you a funny ish story
when I was a kid, when I was eleven, and
my dad looks Papua New Guinea and he did quite
a bit of international travel and one trip he took

(31:11):
was to Singapore, Belgium, Kenya and South Africa, and he
decided to take me and my sister with him, and
so we went and saw Brussels and Bruises and all
these amazing places and Singapore markets, and did a five
or seven day safari in Kenya and went into South Africa,
and then my mother came with us and we went
into the UK and it was an amazing trip. And
I think we had a week or two off school.

(31:33):
I was intermediate, So when I got back, my teacher said,
can you write us a bit of a report? So
I said, yeah, not worries. And what I actually said
in my report was the best thing I found about
being on this trip was that I got to eat
fresh pineapple every day because that's what the head.

Speaker 3 (31:47):
At the hotels.

Speaker 12 (31:48):
Wow, that was my favorite part.

Speaker 13 (31:51):
When I was eleven.

Speaker 2 (31:53):
Kids are obsessed with food, aren't they. So prebble was wasted.

Speaker 12 (31:57):
Yeah, but I still got the memories of being charged
by elephants and seeing the wild beasts and seeing manequin
pessant and Brussels and the smell of bruises and all
that stuff. So it's nice to have that, but so
playable was on in my in my life.

Speaker 2 (32:12):
Brilliant. Nice to hear from your den. Thank you for
that Leonard's Marcus welcome. Oh go ahead, Macy, learn what's happening.

Speaker 14 (32:19):
Hey, Our first things, first, congratulations years ago for that
train show you did in the railways and that and
about twenty years ago?

Speaker 15 (32:28):
Was it?

Speaker 2 (32:28):
It would be It might only be more than that
now it might be about two thousand and four.

Speaker 14 (32:33):
Maybe, yeah, yeah, I always I couldn't take me eyes
off it. And I'm not really a trained but.

Speaker 2 (32:40):
You guilty, please you tho is that you're a trained spot?
I can tell by your voice, you know, well played,
well played?

Speaker 11 (32:52):
Yeah you are?

Speaker 5 (32:54):
Are you?

Speaker 2 (32:54):
Are you a playing spot?

Speaker 13 (32:55):
Though?

Speaker 11 (32:56):
Yes?

Speaker 14 (32:57):
Yes, indeed some C five ones getting a glass from
the land of the the you know, the the deep
frees program they have going there and crash it. And
this this thing was just phenomenal. You know that one
of the CBOs took me through it, you know, because

(33:18):
it doesn't work for a mon call ratium down there.
And I speak of the cargo master and he said,
this thing, this is the this is the earlier version
of the Sea five galaxy, right, this this new one
come in as this as the C five INN, which
is MAXI or you know, the bigger, updated version. And

(33:38):
this thing can take the volume and the weight of
one hundred and three Volkswagen beetles inside it.

Speaker 7 (33:44):
Wow.

Speaker 12 (33:46):
Yeah, it is massive. And then you walk up in.

Speaker 14 (33:48):
Front of the fella and then you go up these
stairs and you look out at the cockpits. Something's just
just their massive array of dials and lights and stuff.
And behind you there's there's there's been about one hundred
seats the start to start there was toilet up there
and all that sort of stuff, just like a reg
no sort of line out your life. But the seat's

(34:11):
face back to front to a normal plane, and it's yeah,
it was amazing, you know, I was a highlight. It
was pretty cool. And they had a style of Hercules
sitting beside it, you know, and they this thing just
talk like it was just are.

Speaker 2 (34:31):
They would they be bigger than the Globe Masters?

Speaker 16 (34:35):
Oh?

Speaker 14 (34:36):
Hell, these things are monstrous. Yeah. I think the second
biggest plane in the world after the I think it's
the inter.

Speaker 13 (34:42):
Novel the.

Speaker 2 (34:44):
Russians. The Russians destroyed that.

Speaker 14 (34:49):
Beauty, that's all. That's. Yeah, there are one hundred and
fifty tons of freight, which you know, compared to say,
Hercules takes eighteen and I think that the new one
that's coming in tonight into Hookford. I think it's aout
one hundred and eighty times, so you know it's fright,

(35:10):
it can take.

Speaker 2 (35:11):
Okay, thanks Lynn. Hey, by the way, it's just coming.
It's just coming in on the end of and now
if you've got some more information about that, let us
know too. I'll hold you till after the news there
that I do do. Get in touch if you want
to talk. Eight hundred eighty ten eighty. So just coming
towards Tidy Teddy mar tonguey. Then I'll come down East
Coast Bays. That would be my pick. From that, they

(35:33):
come across Green High then turn around, probably depend on
the windblow measure it'll land from. I might land from
the east, I see it or international that landing from
the east, So maybe that's what they're going to do.

Speaker 17 (35:47):
I'll call it.

Speaker 2 (35:47):
I'll keep you updated. So yes, oh, eight one hundred
and eighty. Today it's catos and planes and vaping. Now
how big are these planes? That's what I's trying to
work out this. So I'm trying to frend google. What's

(36:09):
it called a lockheed See, I'm just gonna try and
look at its length. I'll see if ione quickly worked
that out. What's it called Lockheed CEE five M? Is
it five m? Oh, it's a seventy five meters, whereas

(36:31):
the Globe masters are fifty meters. So yes, it's a
big plane. It's that it's half again, so she's a
massive one. The US military Lockheed SEE five M super
Galaxy is landed seconds ago. You will have heard in
the north shore. It came in right over Brown's Bay,
then went across the north shore and then kind of
left over Kingfisher Grove and Greenhive, my favorite street in Auckland,

(36:54):
and then went just to the northwest of Herald Island.
It just landed about seven past nine. That's just landed
as we speak. So if you've seen that or heard that,
let me know what that was like. Hard to know
from flight radar what sort of altitude. It must have
come in quite low over Brown's Bay. I would have thought, Mmm,

(37:15):
so there we go. That's just happened. Oh, I've got
good text about this. People are asking why it's coming.
It's coming to it's coming to bring in the simulators
for us our pilots to learn how to fly the
new Hercules. I don't know if the US Air Force

(37:37):
delivers that as a favor, if it combined with a
training exercise, or I don't quite know why that we
get the US Air Force to deliver it. But that's
a good thing. So there we go. That's great. A
lot of texts about this, Marcus, just sitting in. You
have a kindness for paying for the C five Galaxy

(37:59):
can phone with sound effects. We'll see what we can do, Marcus.
I placed the in front of the plane of my friends,
which they love. We're on flight radar now, I said,
to talk about community, I said, thank you Mars with
a heart emoji. I like the way we want to
know where the super Galaxy is going. But on flight radar,
no destination is showing. Mark's really like you showed us

(38:21):
every night from Eshley age eight and Andre your mum,
aged forty nine. Marcus, large plane approaching East Coast Road,
north Cross. Now we're on the flight path of forpy Linda. Yes,
it's just landed. Are they going to do a hacker
when the USA Force plane lands? Don't know? Plane over Fungara?
That's right, that's happened. So why is this plane? He
wants its cargo this that's right, uf I lending in greenheight.

(38:42):
Why is this plane here? Brilliant? So there is landed
Radu Marcus welcome, good, thank you, Radu.

Speaker 13 (38:53):
Hi ah, how I promise I come back to you
with my sailing with Olivia.

Speaker 2 (38:59):
Oh the brand new boat. Yes Olivia, Olivia, yes right now?

Speaker 13 (39:04):
Was a pleasant said was no problem whatsoever? They have
a very specious reclaim area with very beautiful seats like
a first class and the airplane they have a very
good carbon area where you can stay in good chairs.
But the area for eating for dining o god. They

(39:29):
also have a deck. Say, for instance, if you says
you have problems going upstairs, they will put you up
on deck five and go straight into the passenger area. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (39:40):
Was the food good, Radu?

Speaker 13 (39:43):
Very good food or fiction chips? I love it? I
stun have a burger he loves too.

Speaker 2 (39:50):
Okay, what sort of burger did your son have?

Speaker 16 (39:52):
Like it? Uh?

Speaker 13 (39:54):
The piet Burgers?

Speaker 2 (39:55):
Yeah?

Speaker 13 (39:56):
I take the kids they have right. I want to
say they accept me on they give me visa for
South Island. Was no problem getting visa and what the pleasure?
Say on Melson, I love it?

Speaker 2 (40:10):
Are your son's a small board.

Speaker 13 (40:12):
Did he go all right, Oh, look, not what we expected,
but you're doing quite well. We lost on a junior
against South Island. Then we won on women's men and
opened against South Island.

Speaker 2 (40:31):
Oh god, okay, they mean there'd be a nice crowd
the shooters say, wouldn't they.

Speaker 13 (40:35):
Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, there's a good bunch of people.
I love it. I love it now. On ireoplane in
Romania in nineteen eighty eight. Okay, was for the first
time when a pilot student pilots for military academy in
Romania flew which I are, I are ninety nine. It's

(40:56):
a Romanian acraft all the Bulgaria to a military base
in Turkey escape from Communist reg him. Oh, that's that's
what's quite fine us. In nineteen eighty eight he escaped
by storing a plane and flew below fifty raider over

(41:20):
the Bulgaria straight into the Turkey.

Speaker 2 (41:25):
Was he a pilot or he taught himself.

Speaker 13 (41:28):
He was a pilot on military school aviation and he
had to get his solo flying. Yeah, and he's supposed
to do some training in some area and then he
asked to fill up his tanks. And later on they

(41:49):
find some maps in the library when he tried to
make his route over Bulgaria Turkey and he got away
with it. They got away and they I was there
in their unit when they bring back their aircraft from
from Turkey.

Speaker 2 (42:04):
Okay, oh, that's a good story.

Speaker 13 (42:07):
Aircraft. I are a I are ninety nine. It's built
in Romania.

Speaker 2 (42:14):
I looked it up right. I do thank you for that.
I appreciate that. Thirteen past nine, we're talking vaping, and
we're talking catos and the plane that's landed. These are
just suggested topics. They might be other stuff that you
got to go on about. Good forget what the other
stuff we've mentioned tonight is. But there has been a lot.
Oh no, haven't did anything? Welcome people, Come on, what

(42:38):
have you got? Marcus Still twelve. If you are at
the airport for newer piliers, know what sort of crowds there.
The plane spots are like trained spotters, but less grounded,
I would imagine. But you might want to mention about
this or anything else you've got to talk about tonight.

(43:01):
There might be some other topics floating around in your head.
You are more than welcome. Quite noisy on the north shore,
was it when that came overhead. Let me know about
that too. I'll do what I can to keep you
out of that with our international news tonight fourteen past nine,
no wood on when the Popeyees opens in Vocabo, anyone
tell me about that. All the lights have been on

(43:22):
for about four days now. I'm not that particularly keen,
but you know what happens in small towns or something
that happens, you got to go check it out. Get
the bucket of greasy wings or something.

Speaker 14 (43:37):
I never know what it is.

Speaker 2 (43:41):
I resume the chicken is locally source. I don't that
you can import chicken to news and and can you
because of our worry about our bird population. I think
Lance Marcus good evening.

Speaker 18 (43:53):
Oh hi Marcus. Look, I've got to study of that
galaxy playing that the Yanks have is just unbelievable. Like
I worked up on Papa New Guinea and up at
Mount Hagan, and I got a real thrill about the

(44:15):
New Zealand Defense Force flying in with their with their
hercules up at Mount Hagen, which is at the top
of BNNG. But then if you go back down to
Port Moresby and you see the Americans fly in with
those transporters like five times the size of what New

(44:41):
Zealand's got. It is impressive.

Speaker 2 (44:43):
What happens to Mounthagan is that mining. Was it a base?

Speaker 9 (44:48):
Well?

Speaker 18 (44:49):
The New Zealand engineers were up there to deal with
one security, but two engineering and humanity humanitarian aid.

Speaker 2 (45:02):
Sure, but it was impressive.

Speaker 18 (45:05):
Like I up there, eyes up there for probably two
and a half years and started in Moresby and work
my whole way through the country. But to see something
like that, you I was sitting in the tower there
and you hear you know what was it ended? One
coming in blah blah blah, and you know you see

(45:27):
these guys come in and you know I entertained them
for you know, I think they had a contingent of
thirty for a month and they were up there and
you know, pretty hard conditions and these guys are up
there doing it, and you feel, I'll tell you what,
you feel very proud because all of a sudden here's

(45:51):
something from your own country flying into to a place
that's got nothing. And these these guys were engineers. I've
never forgotten it.

Speaker 2 (46:02):
So are you at the airport now?

Speaker 11 (46:05):
Oh?

Speaker 2 (46:05):
I know, oh okay, I just thought you might have
been saying that the galaxy coming. I know you don't
at the airport, now, are you.

Speaker 5 (46:11):
No?

Speaker 18 (46:11):
Oh sorry mate, no no, but but that all I'm
saying is that that galaxy. And look, I went on
to work for x On Mobile and then I moved
up to.

Speaker 16 (46:25):
Como and they chopped the Yanks chopped the x On mobile,
dropped the top off a mountain and they were landing
antonofs in the air for the L and G plant.

Speaker 18 (46:36):
So you just go from you just go from the
kiw C one thirty hercules to the to the Yanks
with those galaxies, to then the Russians with the antonots,
and you just it's just mind boggling. But I mean
that that galaxy. My god, if you're a kid from

(46:57):
my age and I'm fifty plus, it's like thunderbirds ago.

Speaker 9 (47:01):
That is.

Speaker 18 (47:04):
Mind boggling impressive.

Speaker 2 (47:06):
Nice to hear from your lance. Thank you, Phil Marcus welcome.

Speaker 19 (47:09):
Yeah, Hi Marcus. Yeah. I was just leaving Brown's Bury
Tennis Club as that thing came over, and I'm ex military,
so it had all its lights on and I thought,
it's not even moving. It's so big. It didn't look
like it was hardly moving. And at first I wonder
what it was, and then it just came over a
huge raw as it went all the way to Panipo.

(47:31):
But it is impressive and huge.

Speaker 2 (47:33):
Could you see if the wheels were down where it
was a Browns Bay?

Speaker 19 (47:37):
No, it was dark dark. I tried to stop and
look at it.

Speaker 2 (47:42):
You wouldn't have estimated what height it would have comeing at.
Would you over Brown's Bay? Would it be like five
hundred meters or lower than that. I'm trying to think
visualize it.

Speaker 19 (47:51):
Well, I would rangy Toto's nine hundred feet. It would
have been about that height.

Speaker 2 (47:57):
Yeah, okay, it's a good estimate.

Speaker 19 (48:00):
Yeah, coming over it was huge.

Speaker 2 (48:02):
Yeah, and with a big noise.

Speaker 19 (48:06):
Yeah, they're impressive. They had every engine going trying to
keep that size of aircraft up in the air at
that speed.

Speaker 2 (48:14):
Yeah, okay, oh that's good. Please did you know it was?
Had you heard the radio that it was coming in?

Speaker 20 (48:19):
No?

Speaker 19 (48:20):
No, I didn't, And it's just because i'm, you know,
got ex military. I thought, see that is huge. Got
to be one of those Yank ones.

Speaker 8 (48:29):
It was.

Speaker 2 (48:29):
We're alluded to it. Yesterday. I was supposed to land
at four forty five today it's bringing in the simulators
for our hercules, for the pilots to learn to learn them.
That's what it's dropping off. And would your military? Would
the US Air Force delivered that as a favor.

Speaker 19 (48:44):
I'm not sure about that because I mean, we buy
the hrks from from McConnell Douglas. We don't buy them
from the US.

Speaker 2 (48:52):
Yeah, it's the only plane that because the US Air
Force wouldn't be doing contract jobs, would they.

Speaker 20 (49:00):
No.

Speaker 19 (49:00):
I wouldn't have thought.

Speaker 1 (49:01):
No.

Speaker 19 (49:04):
They may well have tied it in with something to
come down and watch.

Speaker 2 (49:07):
Yeah, I'm thinking, well they must probably. It's good for
them to get there. It's good for their crew to
get a bit of a mission with a purpose to itus.
And I imagine that a new airport to try landing it.
And I guess it's not far from I think it's
come from Honolulu, so it's probably a fairly short trip.

Speaker 19 (49:23):
Yeah, nine hours, so they've landed a crisis. I've seen
them on the ground at christ Church. They've been there
quite often.

Speaker 21 (49:30):
Yes.

Speaker 2 (49:32):
Do you go well at the tennis?

Speaker 19 (49:35):
No, it's actually I managed the club, so.

Speaker 2 (49:40):
Okay, I thought you come from night tennis. Thanks pel
good only twenty past nine. See long hours to run
a tennis club. Thought it'll be nine to five. Restock
the drink machine. Away you go, Marcus. The train landing,
the plane landing was not so loud on landing. It's
much louder when taking off. A video that's landing this evening.
I'm on the shore in line with the flight path

(50:01):
to Faniopay. We've just left the airport, just landed. Heaps
of people. There are lots of fun. That's plain fun, Marcus.
I jumped out of bed to watch the Galaxy flying direct.
You have Albany dust re, a wonderful slow in the air.
Our seven four seven Air Force boyings are noisier. Peter
Albany drink. That's Peter Albany Dan. What do you think

(50:22):
it's names like a bed spa. It's actually s l
b A n Y. I'm sure his name is not
Peter Slabani, is it. It's not Peter Slablani. It's Peter
from Albany. Its sneaks to a on the keyboard. So
he's capitalized and hasn't he old Peter Slablani? Yeah, yeah,

(50:48):
that's right. George's brother. Don't see I don't see a
bed with don't be without saying us first, George Blani,
Peter Slabani. No, it's better Albany. Well, that's good to
get plain. That's actual live plane chat. It's about as
good as it gets. I reckon and talk. No photos yet,
but how they get the photos to us? But old

(51:13):
old we've just if the airports. Heaps of people fun
here old number ending is sixty six. Do you think
he could have set us a sly shot? Have your
dad's got photos? Where are they? If you want to
see the pictures of the plane landing, this is live
radio again. To click on Facebook right then go to

(51:34):
search NZDF Community alerts O travs nd D if what
is it? Here's the here's the audio of it landing.

Speaker 6 (51:51):
Guys, that's a fine never Travis this place?

Speaker 2 (52:09):
Wow, I can't see that Dan on the Facebook page.

(52:29):
If that was live, we would have got an award
for that. We're I've clicked on this into dep Committy
alert to Where do I go to? I've just got
Edmund Berman. Oh it's in the comments. Oh oh is
it Trav? How far down is it? Newest are Go
newest O Trev Russell Like I'm looking at it now

(52:52):
jeep as creepers. Looks like the invasion from the North Shore. Goodness, wow,
oh gosh, the things you see a evening gave. This
is Marcus welcome mate.

Speaker 14 (53:10):
I'm obviously I'm in Leston. I never heard him. You know,
was the War of the Engines. But we've got an
update on the bulldog situation.

Speaker 2 (53:22):
Great.

Speaker 14 (53:23):
Yeah, so another three went today and the container. Yeah
back to Holand and Germany.

Speaker 2 (53:34):
What's gone back to Germany?

Speaker 14 (53:37):
I'm the lands bulldogs tractors?

Speaker 22 (53:40):
Oh yeah, yeah.

Speaker 2 (53:43):
What what's this about.

Speaker 14 (53:47):
Old tractors going back to Germany?

Speaker 2 (53:50):
Oh yeah, do you do you? Are you a trader?

Speaker 14 (53:54):
Yeah? Oh ideal?

Speaker 11 (53:56):
Oh yeah.

Speaker 2 (53:57):
What sort of tractors are they?

Speaker 14 (53:59):
Lands l A n Z Oh yeah yeah, bulldog?

Speaker 2 (54:10):
Oh yeah, who's buying them?

Speaker 14 (54:15):
While the the Dutch and the Germans one of the
pre war ones.

Speaker 2 (54:23):
Yeah, they've got that big flywheel on them. Is that right?

Speaker 14 (54:26):
Exactly?

Speaker 2 (54:28):
What's that for?

Speaker 19 (54:28):
It?

Speaker 2 (54:29):
Is it to drive other things off? Is it how
they work?

Speaker 8 (54:32):
Yeah?

Speaker 14 (54:32):
They're like driving off the drive wheel, drive the belt,
make the threshing machine and whatnot.

Speaker 2 (54:39):
They're amazing looking things.

Speaker 14 (54:41):
Ah, yep. Do they have to go via the ship
because you probably could take him away on an enter
and off.

Speaker 2 (54:53):
Were there quite a few in New Zealand?

Speaker 14 (54:57):
They were they setting them out here because they were
quite good in the Canterbury planes or flowering and that
very efficient. Yep, yea. And they did send a lot
out here and in their olden days. Yeah, so in
Germany and Holland and France and everywhere when the war

(55:19):
was on, they scrapped all the ones, you know, in
Europe to make thanks and whatnot. Well you know what
I'm saying, ye yeah, And how much how.

Speaker 2 (55:33):
Much how much would the Germans pay for one.

Speaker 17 (55:35):
Of those.

Speaker 23 (55:38):
What today?

Speaker 14 (55:39):
Yeah, more than anyone a New Zealand could pay because
they want them back. All theirs got scrapped and melted down.

Speaker 2 (55:47):
How much they're paying for them many UKs, which is
how much money?

Speaker 14 (55:54):
I don't know how much you got?

Speaker 2 (55:56):
Okay, good to talk care for go to talk about
the plane, but got tractors. It was interesting though, amaze
if you google them up, the good looking things. You know, midnight,
my name's markets talk about the plane that just landed
there for exciting to get people that they get the
audio brilliant we're on about tonight and a bit of

(56:18):
vaping talk and a bit of keadeo talk talk about
the plane. The giant plane has just landed for Nuapai.
So and someone said text and through. They said, to
know what they're on about. TEXTUS says, just bring out
that text people. The SIMS are part of our joint

(56:38):
training of the planes that landed in their Tarctic deep freeze.
Also doing supply runs next week. Hence why the amount
of planes. Someone said, an eye cloud? What would that be?

Speaker 16 (56:49):
Dan?

Speaker 2 (56:49):
What's a nightcloud? Will it be? Will it be a
photo they've sent me? I've cut and paste it opening, opening,
Now I've got that that wheel turning. You know that
little six little spokes of the wheeld Oh yeah, Shared
by Michael Do. I click download sign and then just

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push download. You're downloaded, big and shortly. Okay, well just
be on that same screen. I have to go somewhere
else to get it. Where's that is that down the bottom?
Is it the yell little envelope, the yellow envelope with
the blow and the bit of it cheap, It's right
down the bottom?

Speaker 14 (57:33):
Would it be?

Speaker 2 (57:34):
We never use it? This is the no go zone
down here? Oh here it goes. No, that's not about
that's not for that. It could be the button. Have
you got it? We'll go you. I can't see it,
but thank you anyway. I can't see it, but that's fine.

(57:55):
Pilot error not I shouldn't say that, Marcus. Would be
cool for pill to know when this plane takes off again?
Cheers people, Yeah, we'll find out. I've got of emails
for this. I mean, if the military really, if the
American military really cared about how they perceive that, let
it even the daytime. Wouldn't that be more exciting? Have

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schooled out to see it, all sorts of stuff. But
I've got no more information about when it's going to
take off. You might have some they'd be good to know.
So back to ordinary programs. But we are also talking
about vaping. Yeah, the teenagers are given up on it,
it seems. And some of that might have been legislation. Well,

(58:41):
we got too confused by the legislation, always seemed to
prevaricating and wishy washy and backtrackings. I don't really know
where we are with vaping, but it seems as though
we've kind of not got the hysteria we had three
or four years ago with school principles up in arms
about it. That's a good thing because people that vape
tend to go and start smoking cigarettes one and three

(59:03):
or something. We don't want that happening. That's crazy. It
was only ever supposed to be good as a smoking
cessation device. The I think the tobacco companies realized there
was money in it. They're losing market share from tobacco.
They thought they'd better get a share of vaping and
bring people back to smoking. Anyhow, if you want to

(59:23):
talk about anything else tonight, good, I'm into that. Let's
be hearing from you. I don't know why we got
to talk about katohs. I think we're talking about kiwi
the symbol. We're better talk about pineapples because it's pineapple Day.
It's Hawaiian Pizza Day today, which was invented by a
Greek men in Canada. Was only caused call the Hawaiian

(59:49):
pizza because it was about the same time as Hawaii
became the forty the fiftieth state. Was it before Alaska
the fiftieth state. So they named a pizza after it. Because,
as you know, the pineapples don't come from Hawaii. They
come from Brazil anyway. That's what ron about tonight. If

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you want to add to this or anything else. God,
let's be hearing from you. Wait one hundred and eighty
Teddy and nine two ninety six Marcus Still twelve. These
other topics take you fancy. I don't know what they are,
but feel free to come through. And I don't always
know what's on your mind. Someone said there's more brazies
from New World at Mount Roskill, but they're toying with us.

(01:00:36):
I think much discussion in UK newspapers where the baby
should wear socks. Their grandparents want them to do, the
parents don't, So the new movement is for kids not
to wear socks. They find their feet better, It gives
them more sensory perception, and young vape uses are three

(01:00:58):
times as likely to start smoking. By the way, not
long for greyhound racing. I thought they would be more
organized to like this, the greyhound owners, but they seem
to have sold their dogs off shore and it seems
to be a fader complete. I think there's one Supreme
Court hearing that don't seem overly confident from what I

(01:01:18):
can pick up. Yeah, Winstance says globally, the industry is
winding down with Tasmania recently announcing the Endo Greyhound racing.
The bottom line is two dogs gets to you to
die and gets here as the injurines time to do
the right thing, and there's probably sort of an element
of wisdom in that.

Speaker 9 (01:01:40):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:01:41):
Thanks liamleyam's us live footage of this big plane landing. Also,
obviously it's at nighttime and I'm just watching it coming now,
so it's quite a good bit of video too. I
don't know where it's been shot from, as it's shot
from the actual it's coming. It must be shot right
from the end of the a strip, all right, it's
impressive at the end of the flyover, well done, caught
it well, Liam, looks like there's a few there, brilliant. Oh,

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it's good that people still get excited about aviation. Gosh,
wants only been one hundred and twenty years, isn't it
one hundred eighteen years? Vaughn Marcus, welcome.

Speaker 23 (01:02:12):
Mate here again, good one. We had the pleasure of
going through an inter and of walking inside one in
a concord and the tuple of all sorts. Soons people
sort of when you start saying that, they make you
think you think you're a bit weird.

Speaker 9 (01:02:26):
But over in Germany.

Speaker 23 (01:02:27):
There's a couple of museums that I've got, you know,
they've got the space shuttle that int Andov's seven forty
sevens all sorts of things, the Technic Technic Museum in
Speyer in sen Hai, and so I'm just absolutely amazing.
You get inside the ins and of and by curaking
it's it's huge, and it's one of the older, older,
smaller ones, and even that's pretty impressive.

Speaker 2 (01:02:48):
So the end. And I did a range of planes, right,
but the Maria was there really big one, wasn't it. Yeah?

Speaker 23 (01:02:53):
Yeah, there all the big heavy lifters and that thing.
So this is one of the older you know, I
can't evenmber what model is. If you google it you
find it. But yeah, I just just unbelievable. You know,
you're in the cargo hole there and just you'd put
a bus in there and then still sort of have
room to wander around.

Speaker 9 (01:03:09):
You know, it's just amazing.

Speaker 2 (01:03:11):
Is it like a destination for you you'd travel the
world to go and plane? Is that your thing?

Speaker 7 (01:03:15):
Oh?

Speaker 20 (01:03:16):
Not really?

Speaker 23 (01:03:16):
But we I was in Germany quite a few years
ago and we've got taken there and then my young
fellow's a bit of a plane spotder, and so we
went back this year and took them there and then yeah,
but you just can't help it be impressed you when
you go and they've got the concord and you can
walk up all through it and that sort of you know,
and then straight behind I've got the Russian version.

Speaker 16 (01:03:35):
Those are the.

Speaker 23 (01:03:38):
The yeah, two I think it is. You know, you
can walk right through all of those. They've got one
of the space shuttles there. It's just absolutely mind blowing.

Speaker 14 (01:03:46):
What's what's there?

Speaker 23 (01:03:47):
You know, how many people can say they've actually touched
the Space shuttle and things like that, you know, so
just yeah, pretty pretty amazing.

Speaker 7 (01:03:53):
Really.

Speaker 23 (01:03:53):
I just realized how little newsyll it is.

Speaker 2 (01:03:56):
Yeah, good looking plane, the tip left, they keep the concord, Christine.

Speaker 23 (01:04:01):
It's showing its age, got a bit of bird poop
on it, that sort of thing. But yeah, but even
even just you know, when you look at it, you
realize that it's not new, you know, just just the fabric,
the whole lot it was. Yeah, you know, it was
what it was an impressive beast. It's just shows how
how far we've come with fabrics and you know, fixes
and furnishings and things like that, you know, the toilets

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and the handbasins and stuff.

Speaker 15 (01:04:24):
You know.

Speaker 23 (01:04:24):
The while it might have been well ahead of its
time and capability and this thing, yet it wasn't the
lap of luxury that we'd expect today, that's for sure. Yeah,
pretty pretty impressive.

Speaker 2 (01:04:37):
The tractor still, did you?

Speaker 23 (01:04:39):
Yeah, yeah, Gavi, I've I've had the pleasure of checking
out gave Bulldold collection. He's going to more deifying collection.
Pretty interesting guys, Yeah, yeah, I didn't.

Speaker 2 (01:04:47):
He sort of came in a bit of an end
I couldn't quite work. So he buys them and sells
them at Germney, does he?

Speaker 23 (01:04:53):
Oh, he buys themselves all sorts of things. He's a
bit of a bit of a character, does a quite
a bit of restoration. He's pretty bigly And Len's Bulldold collection.
I'm surprised that I heard he was. Yeah, he's more
of a collector than a dealer. But everything's everything. He's
got a price that's sort of you tell you, so
is a pretty good collection.

Speaker 2 (01:05:10):
How big would the collection be?

Speaker 14 (01:05:13):
Oh, look, I couldn't.

Speaker 23 (01:05:14):
Tell you, but I would say it's probably one of
the one of the bigger single sort of privately owned
bulldog collections.

Speaker 9 (01:05:19):
They're not cheap.

Speaker 23 (01:05:19):
They'd be Yeah, you'd have to be sort of forking
out six figures for a good one.

Speaker 2 (01:05:24):
Okay, Okay, because I thought I knew a bit about
tractors because they always have the indwe crank CAUP and
they feature one tractor every year. But I've never come
across it. I've never come across those ones because the.

Speaker 9 (01:05:33):
Bulldogs bulldogs there.

Speaker 23 (01:05:35):
I come down to the crank up every year and
then have a look down there. It's pretty pretty impressive.
We do the tractor pull down.

Speaker 2 (01:05:41):
There, so okay, so often have bulldogs there.

Speaker 23 (01:05:45):
Oh, there will be bulldogs there. Yeah, they may not
inctually be a feature, but if you look around, it
will be the bulldogs. So you can hear them. They do.
They get down to about three revolutions per minute sort
of thing. Okay, you can sort of hear them popping.

Speaker 9 (01:05:58):
And banging away.

Speaker 23 (01:05:59):
So there's always bulldogs. Pretty probably get shot for something
of a pretty easy restoration. They're a pretty basic machine,
you know, they're so well built they don't rust away
in a hurry. And then, yeah, just a bit of
a cult following beautiful, beautiful machines.

Speaker 2 (01:06:13):
Well, why a farmer is so into restoring treats? Is
it because it's quite straightforward?

Speaker 15 (01:06:19):
Oh?

Speaker 23 (01:06:20):
I think it's just in your blood. It sort of
gets there and then yeah, you're sort of you know,
when you hit that fiftys you start looking at the
vintage stuff things like that, you know, just yeah, just
one of those things something to do. You know, there's
amazing guys will restore stationary motors and things like that.
And you know when you get down to like whales
at Wanaka and you see the the amount of restoration

(01:06:42):
gear that got there. You know, we've got porters that
are restoring big t rex motorscrapers, things like that, you know, so,
which is awesome because you know, it's old history that
we don't want to lose. Like Gav said, in Germany
and all that stuff was was gotten rid of it.
Even in these end a lot of our old stuff's
gone over to the islands and.

Speaker 3 (01:06:59):
That sort of thing.

Speaker 23 (01:06:59):
You know, we we sort of get rid of it,
and then all of a sudden you go, I should
have kept that, you know, but like your your first
car of course, things like that.

Speaker 21 (01:07:05):
You know.

Speaker 23 (01:07:05):
So, but you know it's great and you see a
collection and boy, and you get down in the South Island,
some of the some of the farmers down there. You know,
the farm has been in the family for a hundred
years and grand dead shedding. You know, they passed the
farm down. They build a new shed and store all
the gear and you know they've got to tractor history
all sorts of things. You can spend spend hours and
hours and hours down there. So yeah, it's bloody awesome.

Speaker 2 (01:07:28):
I always thought the internet must be great for restorers
with speed parts and things they can't find. It puts
people in touch with each other.

Speaker 23 (01:07:35):
Oh absolutely, and also to just you know, bringing parts
in from overseas things like this. You know, you can
bring in a lot of a lot of stuff. Unfortunately
New Zealand we pay for the privilege of living here, shall.

Speaker 6 (01:07:45):
We say, yes?

Speaker 23 (01:07:46):
And yeah, tea, you get a lot of things a
lot cheaper from you know, from England. The next thing
that's going straight to the source so to speak. You know,
it's where where they come from. So you can get
a lot of good stuff out of there. And the
Ford Fords and range and things like that. The MESSI
Veigison's and so you know, it's awesome to see the
restorations and keeping that sort of older gear going and yeah,
the likes of the crank up and it's just awesome

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to see that.

Speaker 2 (01:08:09):
You wouldn't know. You couldn't tell me when Land stopped
making tractors, could you on?

Speaker 23 (01:08:14):
No, if you go to tractor data dot com, that'll
tell you everything you want to know. What how many
leaders the guest tank is, how many were built when
it started, when it stopped. All sorts of attracted data
is a source of information for tractors, that's for sure.

Speaker 2 (01:08:29):
What's your what's your what's your make of tract? Are
you into?

Speaker 23 (01:08:33):
I'm not yet. I don't really have I know, I
run the tractor pulls, so I have.

Speaker 9 (01:08:36):
To be.

Speaker 19 (01:08:38):
It.

Speaker 2 (01:08:39):
Is it two tracktors going in different directions?

Speaker 5 (01:08:42):
No?

Speaker 23 (01:08:42):
No, No, that's the weight trends for a tractor pull.
So we have attractable sleep that's computer controlled and as
it goes down the track it gets heavier, so who
can pull up the furthest So you're huge in the state,
So you know they have big, big modified tracts in
the States. They have fifteen thousand plus horse power class
just you know, fifteen thousand horse pawers, not enough, you're
going to have a fifteen thousand horse power plus.

Speaker 2 (01:09:03):
Class, So how can how can the stid get heavy?

Speaker 23 (01:09:06):
Yeah, so we have a tractor, so we in the
States have a moving weight box. We have a tractor,
so we have this pen underneath it. You start off
towing the tractor and you end up dragging the tractors
lift itself up off the ground, getting heavier and s
o else. It's unique in the world because we've got
a load cell in the chain, so it registers what
how much is being pulled, and it lifts the tractor

(01:09:28):
recordingly and works out you know, how many meeters the
trackers and how much weight it needs and that sort
of thing. So software that I've built, So that's pretty cool.

Speaker 2 (01:09:38):
And there can the Can the farmers modify their tractor?

Speaker 23 (01:09:41):
Oh yeah, yep, that's boy racer rural STYLEV Hev's got
a very nice, very nice John Deare tractor. He calls
it who is because he reckons who theres wins and
he does a few times. But yeah, that's a it's
got a cat through six three to our eight V
eight and its so yeah, a lot of a lot
of money gets spent on on modifying tractors. You know,

(01:10:04):
you know, of course if you're from there in the revenue,
there U the spray rig or the feed out tractor.
But you know, yeah, I know a lot of fun,
a lot of fun.

Speaker 2 (01:10:12):
Nice team from your born Thanks so much. Free Informative
thirteen to ten. You're Richard Marcus.

Speaker 24 (01:10:20):
Welcome, Hey Marcus, how are you doing tonight?

Speaker 9 (01:10:24):
Good?

Speaker 2 (01:10:24):
Thanks Richard?

Speaker 8 (01:10:26):
Good good.

Speaker 24 (01:10:27):
I just heard a little piece of guy talking about
planes and being able to go to the museum. And
I don't think people realize that all the really bright
stuff has done with planes about one hundred and fifteen
years ago, and they have changed that much. Like you
think if you get into a seven forty seven, you

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got into this highly technical plane. If you took the
covers off from the roof when you were standing in
the cabin and looked up, you could see the wires
that when where the compilots at all the way back
to the tail of the plane, and there's still just rides.

Speaker 23 (01:11:06):
And why even when came wow, is that right?

Speaker 13 (01:11:10):
Yeah?

Speaker 24 (01:11:10):
And it's sort of like, oh, okay, so it's right.
The really smart stuff happened one hundred and fifteen years
ago when they figured out lift and how to make
the palace work and how to power through the year.
It's just been refined. I mean the top plane that

(01:11:32):
runs around at the moment, jet engine and all like that.
It still just works on the fact that he goes
past the wing, you get lift. You have control services
so you can control it, and that's how you fly.

Speaker 14 (01:11:49):
It's it's old tech that works really well.

Speaker 2 (01:11:53):
Is it still all rods? I thought all that stuff
would be electronic, the wing lifts and stuff like that,
But still is it rods? Is that what you're saying.

Speaker 24 (01:12:01):
In the early seven forty sevelings, it were still cables
and rods with hydraulic actuators on it. Nowadays it's what
they call fly by wire, so it's quite drugged at
cables and its electrical impulses operating little valves that are
still hydraulically driven. Because the pressures that you need to
turn an airline or operate a flap absolutely massive, So

(01:12:27):
it's done by hydrants to make it work. But at
the end of the day, most of the planes that
you get into, even nowadays, they they're just the basic thing.
It's just if I push this lever this way back there,
all moved that way, and it's the same principle an

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idea that the right brothers and pears had to make
a plane fly. So it's just really interesting how all
we did was make it look better. It didn't change
how it worked. We didn't change how it operated, because
they got it right when they first flew. They got
it right.

Speaker 2 (01:13:08):
Nice to hear, very good point, Richard. Nice to hear
from me. Thank you for making that twenty sorry nine
fifty three catching a bit evan.

Speaker 24 (01:13:15):
Hello, Hey, Marcus, I just mentioned about the steam tractor
that they've just rebuilt.

Speaker 2 (01:13:23):
Have they?

Speaker 5 (01:13:24):
Oh?

Speaker 11 (01:13:24):
Okay, yeah, sure ten ten plows?

Speaker 2 (01:13:29):
Yeah, who's rebuilt it?

Speaker 3 (01:13:32):
Not too sure.

Speaker 8 (01:13:33):
It was one of the first ones built.

Speaker 14 (01:13:34):
I think the steam tractor.

Speaker 2 (01:13:35):
Where have you heard about it?

Speaker 25 (01:13:37):
I was on YouTube?

Speaker 2 (01:13:38):
Oh is it in New Zealand or overseas?

Speaker 14 (01:13:41):
I'm not too sure information, Marcus.

Speaker 9 (01:13:44):
I just said, I let you know, i'd.

Speaker 2 (01:13:45):
Like to see that. I've never come across the steam
tractor in recently. I've never seen one operating either. Okay,
good and tell thank you. It's real farming when you're
doing it with a steam track. Now, when you get
the cold beforehand, get that stoked up thanks for the
planet from Marcus. Rushed out to the deck in Glenfield
Trundle and rumble overhead lit up Like London, vaping has

(01:14:08):
become uncool. Teenagers have moved on. Yes, I thought they would.
People want to know when this plane takes off again,
it won't be tonight, and imagure we'll take a bit
of faffing around to get the module out of there,
the simulator. So you've got another breaking users know what's

(01:14:31):
happening here'll twelve and joining the discussion very much. Practice
and planes and vaping and cattios. You might want to
combine those topics. No, there's no prizes for combining here
until twelve. Good evening, all ten part seven past ten.
I got that right, haven't I? Hey, what's happening? We're

(01:14:53):
talking tractors and that plane that landed also just about
an hour ago at Fanuapai. Are also talking a little
bit about vaping, bit of that stuff going around tonight,
and all sorts of other topics cattios and cats. If
you want to join the discussion, be good to hear
from you. Pretty much anything goes to three for all Wednesday. Wednesday,
So oh, eight hundred eighty to ten eighty. Always looking
forward to breaking news, but it hasn't happened yet. Tonight

(01:15:14):
there is that missing Aucrone woman. To keep an up
for her. I'll tell you some more details about that
before too long. Yes, get in touch Hittle twelve oh
eight hundred eighty ten eighty. Anything else you want to
mention to her up for it. But yeah, because the
international news that happens, I will try and keep updated

(01:15:35):
with that. You've got anything locally that's happening also to go.
I don't think the snow amounted too much. That was
just last nik. We're talking about snow. We don't know
how that went. You might have more information about that. Also,
by the way, the ends in sight for the buffet breakfast,
because if it's waste over consumption and environmental impact twenty

(01:16:00):
percent waste coming from food stuff, the worst defenders are
the buffet breakfast twice as much waste as plated breakfasts.

Speaker 25 (01:16:08):
There you go.

Speaker 2 (01:16:10):
Smaller plates might be the answer. Luriy Marcus welcome.

Speaker 11 (01:16:15):
Yeah, Marcus, you touched on early earlier on what you
thought was the signs of spring these days, and I
think that's another thing. You also mentioned that the pollen cloud.

Speaker 2 (01:16:29):
Oh yes, yes, and Nelson from Rebert Island.

Speaker 11 (01:16:32):
Well, I mean it's in Palmi. The pollen claud been
here but well over a week, I guess, uh pollen
on all the cars. It's quite quite noticeable and I
mean it's that's probably quite real.

Speaker 2 (01:16:47):
And now that is.

Speaker 11 (01:16:49):
Uh side of spring.

Speaker 2 (01:16:52):
Yeah, where would the pollen cloud and palm? Would it
come in from the west from those plantations alongside the coast.

Speaker 11 (01:17:02):
Yeah, a lot of it there. There's the coastal forestry
stuff here wide really right up to your Danue winner
and and beyond. But there are are other forests along
the parts of the Lower tu area too. But you know,
it's very dramatic and it I mean it's more it's

(01:17:25):
just visible as a residue around town. But actually when
you're driving past the forest, you do see the cloud.
You know, it's sort of just a bit of light breeze.
It's sort of just like a real haze coming off.
Just let's go, and it'ssipated that it must be. I mean, ah,

(01:17:47):
in the past, as far as the historical records in
New Zealand, you know the pollen layers, you know, like
places like I think Lake to Tira, and I think
Virginia Lake and Wanganui they had pollen that went right
back to the my recognize when the mary uh migration ride. Basically, yeah,

(01:18:14):
and I think they could track they recon from them
out of when the first burn off started. And I
guess when they're hunting moms and stuff like that, that
that was sort of that that pine count. It's been
used as a whole climate record, but I mean now
it's it must be overwhelmed by the sure amount of

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the pine pole. And he had the I guess the maluca.
I think that was one of the predominant ones that
used to show up when they're sort of there going
back to the migration times. And suddenly they were getting
a hell of a lot of manuca pollen and that
long and that sort of they realized that they much

(01:18:59):
been burnt off. But yeah, there's certainly a good sign
of spring, and it coincides with the daffodils coming well
around here anyway.

Speaker 2 (01:19:08):
So it looks like it looks like yellow smoke, doesn't
it The pine pollo?

Speaker 3 (01:19:11):
Is that right?

Speaker 2 (01:19:13):
It does it?

Speaker 22 (01:19:13):
Can?

Speaker 11 (01:19:14):
It can be when it's there, Yeah, and and certainly
highly evident on your cars and colors now all that
that sticks around for quite a while. Yeah, but they
kept there talking about those lens tractors. I remember working
down Cannery back in the sixties and see the Canterbury

(01:19:34):
Way and seeing a couple of those sort of wandering
around and you say, very slow turning. But they're just
like something out of a cartoon. They blow big smoke
rings and they've got the fly wheel going and it's
sort of tough, tough, and you could see like a
perfect sort of smoke ring coming up. But they I

(01:19:55):
saw the guy. Actually, when you start them, you've actually
got to have a thing like a frame thrower to
actually preheat the whole preheat the whole, and then you've
got to put a crank in and I think you
actually physically wind pump all around the whole thing as well,
something like one hundred odd turns on the on the sandle.

(01:20:17):
But once awai obviously.

Speaker 2 (01:20:22):
Is a flame throwing a heat it up.

Speaker 14 (01:20:25):
Yeah, yeah, it's it's.

Speaker 11 (01:20:31):
The I think it is just to heat the whole engine. Yeah,
I guess, And that makes it, you know, just like
a bulldozers and stuff like that. When they're real cold.
I mean Canada, they used to have to sort of
put a hell of a lot of heat on them
to get them started.

Speaker 2 (01:20:48):
It's I've loasted the last couple of frost nights we've
had down here. It's been very hard to get my
lawn mower going when it's zero degree. Just won't fire. Yeah,
pretty difficult. You want to cand of bugger off or
start your bastard whatever it's cooled, don't you. That's what
you eat. Yeah, I think that's what starts. That's what
starts your bastard is Is that ether?

Speaker 17 (01:21:08):
Yeah?

Speaker 23 (01:21:08):
I think so.

Speaker 11 (01:21:09):
I haven't seen that brand, the one you're talking about,
but probably something like that.

Speaker 2 (01:21:13):
It's a fantastically named brand. It's one of the great things.
I think someone left a container of it. It kind
of Yeah, it works, but it's yeah, I tell you,
I'll tell you what when you get sick of those
pulp stars after a whild, don't you? Oh yeah, yeah, yeah,
terrible things to your shoulders, touching.

Speaker 11 (01:21:35):
On the cardio when we had one mixed DWA to
us for a while. The guy's taking it out now,
but he's still got a hell of a lot of
inside or about five or six indoor cats and they
all line up on against in the window just that
faces our place.

Speaker 15 (01:21:47):
You know.

Speaker 11 (01:21:47):
Poor little bugger's just looking outside all the time as
you're going.

Speaker 2 (01:21:51):
Boy, I wonder why you got rid of the cado.

Speaker 11 (01:21:55):
Yeah, I think it was they'd taken the whole window
out and everything, so it was probably eating a house
eating issue. But I think he deals with cats.

Speaker 2 (01:22:07):
I don't think we say deals in cats, Loricky some
sort of drug doinger? You say, I think he's a
cat breeder.

Speaker 11 (01:22:12):
But yeah, yeah, the other change change line up there.
But they just stare at you.

Speaker 2 (01:22:21):
You know, it sounds other greeding animals for profits. Sounds
like a sketchy kind of a business, doesn't It sounds
they want to be free. Nice to talk to you, Larry.

Speaker 23 (01:22:33):
Thank you.

Speaker 2 (01:22:33):
About fifteen past ten. Welcome to can't I taking the show?
That big plane landed. Marcus, the ninety thirty father of
Farmer and tin wall conveys, tracted run electricity. The first
electric tractor Cedric Goodness, So now he did that sent
some big batteries. Anyway, we are talking about the big
plane that landed and the cattios. That's a patio for

(01:22:53):
a cat. It stopped being all the birds and the kiwi.
I don't know if a cat would eat a kiwi,
probably kill it, would it. So I heard the other
day about the kiwis. They've been released in the hills
above Wellington and you can hear them and they're going
further and further afield. So they seem to be reintroducing

(01:23:15):
more and more than there must be big breeding projects
of kiwi. I mean, they must be doing quite well
with it, as they probably should. I mean, there's been
a incentive to get them out there in the wild.
But you see a kiwi in one always amaze seeing
those kiwi. And Stuart Island over at Mason's Bay and
Doughboy Bay, because of course the kiwis in Stuart Island

(01:23:37):
are in the daylight, and no one quite knows why
why they've diurnalized themselves or whatever it's called. Either it's
because there's too big a population they need to be
in the daytime to get more food, or because in
the summer the daylight so long and they've just had

(01:23:58):
to get used to it and enjoyed it. But you
see these kiwis, and you see them in the daylight,
and you see them looking for food, and man oh man,
and they put their beaks into the ground and bory
do they reach them back and it's a real physical
art for them. It's quite an extraordinary thing to see
because before I'd say that I ever see them in
the Kiwi house at the zoo and they never did much.
But you see them in the wild. They're big and

(01:24:18):
they're they're strong. We're talking about that because the kiwi
is the national bird. Who became the national bird, well,
the unofficial emblem of New Zealand this day in nineteen
oh four. Other people suggested there's better animals for our emblem.
I'm quite happy with the key we had. Rather it
was a kia or a kaka. But yeah, it's not

(01:24:39):
a bad thing. Actually, the fantail, that's it's a bit depressing,
isn't it. Marcus. Welcome Giller.

Speaker 14 (01:24:46):
Marcus. I've been thinking about you speaking about the Deep South,
and I'm going to ask you a question down there.
Do you guys still use coal on your fires? Do
you still have pot bellies? Do you use coal for warmth?

Speaker 2 (01:25:09):
It's a really good question and I spoke to when
I was first in Bluff, probably twenty three four years ago,
the town smelt of coal and even until three or
four years ago. But what happens. Coal became quite hard
to buy, and I think there was a mine at

(01:25:33):
Nightcaps and at Ohi that had good coal and you
could buy that in town. It went quite well, but
that became difficult to get hold of. And also I
think the fires became difficult. If you put new fires,
you couldn't. When you've got a coal fire, you can
bank it at night, and that means that you've shut

(01:25:55):
everything off, so there's not much ear getting to it.
So it just it's very bad for the environment. And
that kind of got frowned upon. So I think just
gradually because the coal became unavailable, that you're really very
really here or can smell coal and bluff these days,
and two or three years ago, I think you probably
could that warmth though, Oh unbelievable.

Speaker 14 (01:26:16):
It's different, isn't it.

Speaker 19 (01:26:17):
Ah.

Speaker 2 (01:26:20):
I was glad to be here for the end of coal,
because yeah, it was something quite special that makes your
house filthy.

Speaker 14 (01:26:28):
Grew up with a pot belly and I left home
in nine eight And the reason why it sort of
sprang into my mind is I had an address check
this afternoon when I went along to try and do
a public service and they said, your last address we
have listed here. They said, I haven't lived there since

(01:26:52):
nineteen eighty eight. Now that is some record keeping. Yeah,
I went. I went along to give blood. Now, I
know I gave blood in the nineties. I know I did,
and I know I gave blood in the early two thousands.
But I don't know what they've done with their records,

(01:27:12):
but the last and they've digitized them.

Speaker 2 (01:27:15):
And I suppose they want to know in case you
got the in case you got the pox, I want
to let you know, won't they.

Speaker 14 (01:27:23):
I was there with the person. That's hilarious. But no,
look the radiant warmth of coal.

Speaker 2 (01:27:30):
Where did you get there? Where did you get the
coal from?

Speaker 14 (01:27:36):
We used to go to get it on Mill Road,
which is come out the back of Peppercora And yeah,
head up towards Menecaw City on the road that's about
to become a big major road. And there was a colt.
There was a coal, a colliery. A little dad go
up there and they'd sell the sell the sacks. We'd

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bring them home hunt coal. I guess it must have
been just a distribution point at the sort of over
the back of Readout Road. Actually down below the water
reservoir and people, you know, you got over the back
of Total Park and I'm already really so we're just

(01:28:23):
about to become whatever it's about to become.

Speaker 2 (01:28:27):
No, I miss it.

Speaker 14 (01:28:29):
I missed that radiance warmth, and I understand the self
of it. It was so nice. It really was.

Speaker 2 (01:28:38):
When I when I when I first bought the house
I currently live in that we liveing in Bluff, it
had something in it called a destructor, and a destructor
is a enameled steel thing that's about a foot wide
and three foot high. I had a wet back on

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it as well, and that was something not for warmth,
but that was something with a fire that went the
whole time that you just it was in the kitchen
that you just burned everything in.

Speaker 14 (01:29:13):
Yeah, it's awesome.

Speaker 2 (01:29:16):
Yeah, And it would always you'd be you'd be away
for a week and you come home it would still
be burning. I've never yeah a destructor. Yeah, and and
I've never heard of that. It must be a South
Island thing. Yeah. It was like it was like a
waste disposal unit, but one based on coal.

Speaker 14 (01:29:41):
Oh no, this this requires investigation.

Speaker 2 (01:29:46):
It was I think mine was a sheck clock.

Speaker 14 (01:29:50):
Not really. Yeah, that's legit, Like every house did something
from Jetlock, didn't they? I'm pretty sure at last or
chat Lick it was, but.

Speaker 2 (01:30:01):
A very narrow thing. There was no there was no
I think they might have an element on top you
could you could cook stuff on it, but just a door.
And yeah, it was a pretty it was a pretty
amazing looking thing.

Speaker 14 (01:30:16):
New Zealand.

Speaker 2 (01:30:18):
What do you mean you want to get one? But
I don't think there'll be many around now. I think
probably in recent years they've all got rid of them.
I don't think I will have to go down where
I live, but I think terrible, well only because people
would check all sorts of stuff and like vegetable scripts
and all sorts of things.

Speaker 14 (01:30:36):
Well, it sounds like a spectacular beast of you of ingenuity,
to be quite honest.

Speaker 10 (01:30:44):
It was a bio mass.

Speaker 2 (01:30:45):
It lasted, but it lasted from the thirties.

Speaker 14 (01:30:49):
Now I say biomass half jokingly, but you mention burning
food scraps. So a way of being like cab and
neutral was such a thing as a device like this.

Speaker 2 (01:31:04):
I don't think it's cab and neutral, Mark, I really
don't think it was carbon neutral. Promise you that twenty
seven past ten. I thought your call was rude by
asking if fluff locals had pop bellies. Thank you No.
The farmer ran an electric cable from the mains power
pole in the field to a large spall on the
side of the track which in round the cable is
a tract to travel around the paddock. We also had

(01:31:27):
a destructor at Oxford brilliant. Keep it coming, Marcus. Queenstown
can be bad on a foggy day when the unslaw
fires up. I thought they'd go to something non coal.
I thought they're doing that, maybe it's set to come, Marcus.
They were called chip heaters. I'm nearly eighty and most
houses had them when I was a child, Marcus, we

(01:31:50):
had a destructure in the house we grew up in
ver Cargo many years ago. Always had a kettle on Sarah.
I had a destructor at Patamahowey near Pukakoe by my
Atlas stovele. It burned everything anything we had unlimited ver
hot water chairs Keith Marg's We're a destructor. When a
boy mum called a chip heater, welcome Pep, the lines

(01:32:11):
are free. We are talking destructors. Everyone's got any comments
about those. Oh, the chip heater, I don't know what
to call it a chip heater, but they heed, they
heeded the water as well. The destructor, it's quite it
sounds like a name out of a science the destructor.
Also talking about vaping tonight and katios. So yes, it's

(01:32:32):
a vast topic. There's pending to talk about. If you
want to go the Facebook page, you can see shots
of the plane landing nineteen comments on that. Comments go
pretty well on the Facebook page. They don't get to
like a lot of Facebook pages.

Speaker 14 (01:32:48):
That the.

Speaker 2 (01:32:50):
Comments getting get quite bad quite quickly. It sound like
a temptation. Now is that we don't seem to suffer
from that, which is a modern miracle. Get in touch
lines free Marcus still twelve. Anything else you want to
go on about tractors We've talked about also tonight. It's
been a nice broad show as far as different things go.

(01:33:14):
Long may that last. Oh, I'll tell you what I'm
excited about. I'm excited about the I'm excited about the
Women's World Cup and rugby. And you get on social
media Facebook or Instagram or something and there's buses of
teams off to the World Cup singing. It's extraordinary, so

(01:33:36):
I don't think. I mean, I'm sure it happens in
the men's game, but they don't post videos of it.
So it seems so that the women's rugby infecting women's
rugby league it as well. They are very I suppose
they've got to be. They're to promote the sport, to
fill the stadiums, but they're incredibly got on social media,
most enjoyable. So I'm looking forward to meeting some of
the personalities in this Rugby World Cup thing. It's going

(01:33:57):
to be quite exciting. Of course, it was four years
ago that match and as it was delayed with Covis.
That was that match when the when the All Ferns
played England and one at the last gasp effort with
oh the great scenes afterwards Ruby Tewey singing the song

(01:34:20):
and yeah it was marvel So yeah, I'm looking forward
to that.

Speaker 14 (01:34:24):
Yeah, and.

Speaker 2 (01:34:27):
It'd be a terrible time for us be first thing
in the morning, Well watch all of that. Do we
know where it's screening? Dan Sky Sport That means TV
three as well, MAYBEA because threes they might delay a
bit of it, Yeah, I hope so Sky open. So yes,
it's going to be exciting. So that's all happening. I
don't know who the It seems to be a different

(01:34:51):
It seems if you're good in the men's game doesn't
necessarily mean you're good in the women's game. There's other
teams that probably. I think the America is America and Canada.
I think I've very very good at it. I think
I saw South Africa playing that particularly good as well.
No surprises there. I suppose they meant are good at
it too. So that's me just talking a little bit
about the Rugby World Cup. The women's black ferns, it's

(01:35:11):
any they called the black ferns because the fern is white. Marcus.
I remember the fifties of Coleman coming to fill the
large concrete colbecks. He carried the large text on his back.
Where's on the coal range of the kitchen head? The
whole water? His dad was too many of it connected.
Mum made delicious scones. If you like trektors, please watch

(01:35:33):
the episode the latest episode of Dig Drive Dy Dig
Drive DIY on YouTube. I don't think I'm going to
go ahead and watch track the videos on YouTube. I
think that would be a cry for help. When the
trouble with the old videos. You start watching something, they
put you down the rabbit hole, don't They just end
up watching dayloads of the same thing, dayloads, days full

(01:35:56):
a lot of stuff. Blah blah blah blah. What about
the vaping anyway? That quote shoppy heater necessarily sharky welcome, okay.

Speaker 8 (01:36:12):
Growing up in your caller before actually reminded me. I
grew up as Capakura as a kid in the seventies
and we lived in Beate Street and we had a
chippy heater which was in the kitchen and my grandmother
used to put either wood or cold in it. Actually,

(01:36:34):
and I always remember because my grandfather was a sergeant
at ay at the Army base, and the first thing
in the morning in Capacura they thought you could even
smell was the cold burning. And it reminded me because
I can remember going to Milk Road with my grandfather

(01:36:56):
and head by the Hessian sects of cold.

Speaker 2 (01:37:03):
Where was the call from Shaky?

Speaker 8 (01:37:06):
I think it came up from Huntley or there on
that way.

Speaker 2 (01:37:10):
Probably came up by rail or Glenfton on one of
those places. They had a few coal mines around there.
There wasn't coal and Monaco, though, was there.

Speaker 21 (01:37:19):
Not that I.

Speaker 8 (01:37:20):
Recalled, but I do know in Tapaca. There was a
few few different places that told it. But I know
the place on the road that he was talking about.
And yeah, well the chippy. It was in the kitchen
and it was next to the hot water cylinder cupboard
and had a week back on it. And it was

(01:37:42):
a tallish sort of thing by ice plates. When I
the kid, it seemed tall. It was tall. Every morning
she'd have that thing going in the winter and me
then and it was always warm, and she she'd cooked
the porridge on top in the pot.

Speaker 2 (01:37:57):
Yes, yeah, so was it narrow?

Speaker 8 (01:38:03):
Yeah, it was narrow. It was like I'm trying to
think of what you call that stuff. It was a
greeny color for white store.

Speaker 2 (01:38:14):
Like a nemo, like anmo exactly.

Speaker 8 (01:38:17):
And it's for the other guy who was talking about
the all of the two guys that knew each other
about the tractors. And that isn't that amazing?

Speaker 7 (01:38:27):
You know?

Speaker 8 (01:38:27):
This is stuff that our kids. Well, of course I'm
in that sort of nearer to sixty than I am fifty.
The knowledge that we have to hand down to the
younger generation.

Speaker 2 (01:38:43):
I haven't got much.

Speaker 8 (01:38:46):
Well, my mother who was seventy four. It's just started
teaching my seven year old granddaughter. The other bring kids,
seven year old granddaughter to how to sew.

Speaker 2 (01:39:01):
Right, got to teaching while I'll keep your grandmother please
to should be stoked with that.

Speaker 8 (01:39:10):
Oh my mom my, mom's enjoying teaching you that stuff.

Speaker 21 (01:39:13):
You know.

Speaker 8 (01:39:13):
So it's a handing down of those the things that
have that seem to have slipped away what you're making
at the moment. She's teaching her how to make a dress. Okay, yeah,
you don't make her own clothes.

Speaker 2 (01:39:31):
We did quite a bit of sewing at primary school.

Speaker 8 (01:39:34):
Right, We had sewing and typing, and I would use it.

Speaker 2 (01:39:41):
And this is just a kid. We're making pincushions and stuff.
I would use those skills. I'd say, out of everything
i'd end at primary school, the sewing was the most useful.
I sew almost daily.

Speaker 8 (01:39:53):
Well, my my mother's mother, she was always sewing, and
she was a machinist, and our clothes were always sewing.
She would have always make our clothes on a sewing machine.

Speaker 2 (01:40:07):
I'm always repairing stuff for doing buttons, all sort of finding.
I find it quite RESTful.

Speaker 8 (01:40:12):
Yeah, it's amazing. Isn't it, You know, pulling out the
old sewing machine. I think I've been not singer sewing
machine actually, But my mum's got a yamahat. I think
it is the one that she's got, and you know,
poll it across the ching and everything like that.

Speaker 19 (01:40:30):
Just that.

Speaker 2 (01:40:30):
Yeah, I don't think you'd save money sewing your own
clothes these days. I think it's probably pretty cheap to
buy the stuff, isn't it.

Speaker 8 (01:40:37):
Oh yeah, it's not like it was talking back in
the sixty seventies and.

Speaker 2 (01:40:42):
You get a four dollar T shirt at the warehouse.
That's going to be cheaper than making it, isn't it.

Speaker 8 (01:40:47):
Yeah, kind of die away with all of that sort
of stuff, But you know, it's a talent there seems
to have faded.

Speaker 2 (01:40:53):
But you know, there you go, nice to talk, sharky,
thank you twenty to eleven. It's like nostalgia tonight, isn't it.
Marcus Vumcorrect? Like most Lower South Island state houses came
with a chipyter, and the kitchen a big copper, and
the laundry would even attack a summ at six degrees
raining fogged a little bit of windn't take care no
snow I like how once in a while the text

(01:41:17):
arrives with z B in the headline brilliant. I think
Fonterra still burns a bit of coal to make them
make the milk powder. I think some schools still burn
coal down south to heat the school too. I think
they're supposed to be pivoting the wood chips should whips.

(01:41:38):
How are you going, people? What's happening in twenty one away?
Nineteen away from eleven?

Speaker 7 (01:41:43):
Who? Um?

Speaker 2 (01:41:49):
Yeah? Get in touch? Anything else you want?

Speaker 9 (01:41:56):
Oh?

Speaker 2 (01:41:56):
Wait a one hundred and eighty ten eighty nine nine
to text if you want to be a part of it. Marcus,
I brought bags of coal from Bunning's total on the
last one of for my free standing fire. Was wonderful,
great heat gym yep, and the old fires you can
bank it all night too terrible, but it keeps you
warm in the morning, still burning when you wake up.

(01:42:17):
Let me give my ears a bit of arrest people.
I've got my headphones off. That's nice, but if you
can call, I will talk to you. Marcus. Around two
hundred years, even in school still use coal boilers to
heat their rooms, as too many hospitals, prisons, libraries, and
swimming pools all over the country. That's from National Geographic

(01:42:41):
I can't quite work out why there is not an
industry to make woodchips for them to replace from burning coal,
because I'm sure woodchips would be as effective. It seems
crazy to burn coal to keep a swimming pool going,
doesn't it. They don't have splash Palasin, and the cargo
burns coal. I think I've seen them having woodchips delivered there,

(01:43:03):
and they probably always did burn coal. But coal's not
quite as available as in the South as it once was.
Because the coal towns were Ohi and Nightcaps and Tinkertown.
They had underground coal that went to open cast, but
I think all of those have now closed were the
last ten years. And you can get coal at Katungata,

(01:43:27):
but it's lignite, so it's kind of brown and burned
kind of in a fairy inefficient way, a lot of smoke.
Yeah it's not even coal, So yeah, it's not a
bad thing. We've kind of pivoted out of that. I
wouldn't have thought anyway. That's just an aside for me
as I give my ease a bit of arrest. Now,
who wants to talk, Who's up for discussion tonight about

(01:43:47):
something else. The excitement to I was that big plane
land when it's going to leave. You might have some
information and there were people there would be people that
would be interested in that information. So do come through
anything else you want to talk about good I'm up
for it. A bit of a discussion about vaping and

(01:44:12):
someone ring me to tell me about Alan Carr stops
smoking now, which I was interested. Someone only just heard
of that. There was a book that was doing the
round about thirty years ago. I didn't worked for very
few people. I think probably one of the most boring
books you'll ever read. But anyway, someone might want to

(01:44:35):
say something about that, and do come through some of
the other discussions kind of remember what they were now
seems so long ago. Eight o'clock. I can tell you
the list if you like. When I was excited about
the Women's World Cup, I am don't see enough of
those tests. Yeah, young smokers, young vapors are three times

(01:44:58):
is likely to start smoking.

Speaker 15 (01:45:01):
On.

Speaker 2 (01:45:01):
Two christ Church sites have been named as potentials for
the Arabis memorial. I think it should be an Auckland,
but it's up to the families to decide. One is
on the banks of the Avon River, and one is
in Kashmere Hills with views of the Southern Alps. Should

(01:45:26):
it be the fiftieth anniversary of that in a couple
of years. So that's a situation near Craycroft Reserve or Cracroft,
I don't know where on the Avon, but that's got
the monument for the quake as well. Quite an effective
kind of thing. That's quite a pleasant place that. I
thought it was good. I thought there was well done,
done quite quickly, unlike most of those things to do

(01:45:47):
with Christ Chitchen the quake. Oh wait, one hundred and
eighty eight, ten eighty. If you want to text, that's
good also nine two ninety. You can email, you do everything,
but you can't fax. I don't even know. Actually there
was a day in a while that facts, but I
was on radio when you could fax through. Actually people
used to fax through sort of wittied drawings, sort of
lurid drawings before they were memes. People feast to fact

(01:46:10):
through stuff. I remember that now, like junk fixes. Hello, James,
this is Marcus. Welcome, good Marcus.

Speaker 19 (01:46:20):
How are you good?

Speaker 2 (01:46:21):
James? Thank you?

Speaker 11 (01:46:23):
That's good.

Speaker 24 (01:46:24):
I was just driving home and I heard you talk
about the Erabus.

Speaker 17 (01:46:27):
Memorial, yes, and I thought I thought it could be interesting. Actually,
I mean as such an important event, there's no reason
we didn't have two or even maybe a good point.
And especially I mean first Chest I think, to a
lovely city at the moment, that's really reinvigorating. And to
have terroists coming to the city in a spot where

(01:46:49):
you could have a bit of remembrance on the avol
would be lovely.

Speaker 9 (01:46:53):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:46:53):
And it's funny because I think in some ways that
me was quite proud to have it because he thought
there would be tourists. But I don't think it's a
tourist you know, I don't. Yeah, I have quite strong.

Speaker 17 (01:47:04):
A terror destination, but as a place where maybe families
or you know, people that are attached to ways, as
an easy place to gather and remember in the South
Island and then obviously in Auckland that will be important
as well, So thats an important event.

Speaker 2 (01:47:22):
My thoughts are that the plane left the last the
plane left from Auckland and that was its last port
before it crashed into the mountain, So I think Auckland
has more significance.

Speaker 17 (01:47:38):
I think I think it does, and the point that
really important thing to also you know, recognize and I
think that that's true. But I also think that is
I think there is that connection as well with Christ Church,
and that that could be. So my point really is,
I think they're all both very significant, and I think

(01:48:00):
you know that we don't have to always stick to
the rules and have one memorial. I know there's probably
cost associated with it, but you know, someone wanted to
put a memorial in christ Church in an Auckland, I
wouldn't see the problem with that.

Speaker 2 (01:48:12):
I would think that the probably the place for a
memorial would be the place where the most people are
going to go to that memorial. And I don't know
where that is because of course it was fifty years ago.
So I guess probably they are becoming I mean, the
only people will be the kids, won't they now? Of
those people that, well, I don't know who will be around.
I guess I suppose it's maybe here you go.

Speaker 17 (01:48:35):
I think I think you're I mean, I do, I
do understand the significance of Auckland, and I think that's
the last spot where a lot of people would to
say goodbye, and I think that is a significant space
for it. And maybe maybe that is the main memorial,
but maybe a place to recognize it in christ Church
could be could be something because it's such an important
event in New Zealand history that you know, if there

(01:48:55):
are other places that we can respect it and and
and pay our respects to it and almost you know,
still had that point of reference to it, could could
be something you know, we could think about.

Speaker 2 (01:49:07):
Are you in christ Church?

Speaker 17 (01:49:09):
No, actually I'm coming Wellington. I was from christ Church
many years ago where we're still living to work from
airbase where we've burnt a lot of coal on the
almost state housing light stuff we had on the air base,
which wi was a lot of fun.

Speaker 2 (01:49:29):
Okay, nice to talk James, Thanks for coming through. If
you want to add to this even Ben, let's be
having from your eight hundred and eighty ten nineteen nine
to detext Marcus still twelve two sites in christ Church
for the Erabus memorial. For those that obviously I've discussed
this a number of times. The plane left from Auckland

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and flew to Erebus, or flew to Antarctica and fluentto Erabis.
There is a christ Church connection because the plane was
spent to meant to land on the return and SWAP's
crew at christ Church, so there were people at christ
Chach Airport waiting for the plane to come back. And

(01:50:12):
christ Church is the base for New Zealand's Antarctic operations,
although that's not related to that flight. That flight was
very much an a New Zealand thing coming out of Auckland.
So anyway, do come through if you want to talk.
Eight hundred eighty ten eighty and nine to nine to
detext Marcus still twelve looking forward to if you want
to be a part of it. Eight hundred eighty ten

(01:50:34):
eighty and nine two nine to de text. We are
talking about the Arabus memorial brilliant and the two locations
for that in christ Church, one on the river and
one in the hills outlooking over the Alps. I'm not
quite sure why that is significant, but I thought probably

(01:50:55):
out overlooking the sea would be better. We are talking
about the location for the Arabis memorial if you want
to partake in that discussion. A text has texted through
late to the Arabis discussion. But I thought there was
already a memorial at Way Committee Cemetery and someone might
want to talk about that. It was my belief that

(01:51:21):
the memorial at Way committee is the internment of body
parts that were unidentified. That that's a grave. That's not
a place of memorial for those people that died because
a lot of the bodies were recognized and traced through
dental records. Best coal memory. We grew up an Islington

(01:51:44):
part of the State Highway or SHI T line, Sockburn
hornby Islington, Templeton. A coal truck came off the line
ups of our house. Mum set us over with two
coal buckets from a house to fill them up, and
with the spilt coal, security cards spotted us and scared
us off before we got them filled. Good times. Because

(01:52:06):
I'm late to the Erbis discussions, I thought the memorial
lamorial at wakemmittee Marcus, the Irebus momorials should be outside
the Antarctic Center. I've never been to the Antarctic Center.
I don't know if it's a good thing or not.
But it's a commercial enterprise, isn't it to me? That
wouldn't be the place where we had put a memorial.
But obvious spin of the belief it should be an Auckland.

(01:52:28):
But you might want to talk about that. I know
PIPL free for strongly that they think it should be
in christ Church. But and I respect those thoughts. But yeah,
I respect them, but I disagree with them, I guess,
is what I'm saying. But it's up to the families,
I guess. Now you can send me some information about
the Rugby World Cup of you, Dan sky sporting some
games on Skype, Is that right? Yeah? So some of

(01:52:54):
the games will be live on sky Open and a
lot of them will be delayed. It starts this weekend,
so I'll continue the match schedules. Women's Rugby World Cup
schedule England versus Uisay Saturday morning, six thirty Australia Saturday morning,

(01:53:21):
eleven Satday evening eleven pm. So yeah, I don't quite
know how the structure works at the stage. New Zealand
Spain Monday morning, four thirty am. I don't know how
many teams are are there's sixteen teams, so it's four
teams of four, sorry, four pools of four New Zealand

(01:53:45):
and the pool with Ireland, Japan and Spain.

Speaker 6 (01:53:51):
So there you have it.

Speaker 2 (01:53:53):
That's what we are talking. I actually talking about the
memorial or anything else you want to talk about. Tonight
we've talked about destructors some of the things. Are some
more brazes available at New World too, New World Mount Rosciale.
I think so if you want to mention that also
tonight be part of the show. If you want to
be a part of it. Anything else you got, we

(01:54:14):
are here for you. But get in touch Marcus till twelve.
Anything else you want to talk about? Brilliant for this
final hour and know how we got onto Cole? Oh
someone just rang up an arts, didn't they? But I
think in the last couple of years Cole has really
disappeared as far as he's land is doing it anyway?

(01:54:40):
What else can I tell you about people? There's a
new contestant on Britain's University Challenge who has divided Britain.
Were there a suit of approach. They're calling her the
real whom you are Hermione Granger. It's pretty interesting. During

(01:55:03):
the segment, Team Captain Danko from Cardiff University admitted she
I think you heard a question which consume the sixteenth
century monarch, before buzzing into answer it despite missing part
of the high stack started questions. She took correct courage,
she took a step and now look with the right answer.
Godness there we go. Well, I think we should bring
that back here anyway. At twelve past eleven, Danet's Marcus welcome,

(01:55:28):
Hey magus.

Speaker 10 (01:55:30):
I'm just I'm only forty and I'm listening and I'm
just thinking with this erabus thing that's being going off
my whole life, and maybe this is why New Zealand
is so held back, because we overthink so much. Yeah,

(01:55:51):
do you think why, like how many other countries are
thinking about just where to put a memorial from that
long ago.

Speaker 2 (01:56:00):
It's kind of weird too, because of course for a
long time they tried to blame other people for it.
Then the airline pretend it never happened and ignored it
for a long long time. So it's been a long
process even to get to this stage because people really,
because of course an there was a government airline, they
dragged their foot and there was Yeah, I mean there
was some extraordinarily bad stuff done around this, because I

(01:56:21):
mean criminal stuff really, So yeah, I agree with you.

Speaker 10 (01:56:25):
Yeah, but yeah, so most people my age wouldn't even know. No,
so that by the time the memorial gets built, the
people who were an effects or ill, all the emphasis
will be lost.

Speaker 23 (01:56:41):
Yeah, And that is why.

Speaker 10 (01:56:45):
New Zealand isn't a place as it is now for
everything because we just overthink everything.

Speaker 2 (01:56:53):
Yeah, and we also don't front up and say that.
I mean the government should have said sorry, the investigator
should have said sorry, the airline should have said sorry,
and they should have done that forty five years ago
and moved on.

Speaker 10 (01:57:05):
Yeah, but I guess I'm saying my generation, we don't
even know that.

Speaker 2 (01:57:08):
No, No, that's what I started telling you. It was
a bit of context because it's gone on forever. And
even that had a memorial that was planned it in
the Rose Guards all going quite straightforward and they kicked
out the neighbors, kicked up Bob's he died for that.
So yeah, it was kind of crazy. But way, that's
what's happening.

Speaker 10 (01:57:27):
Well, I like numbers a yeah, well it's another news
little problem.

Speaker 2 (01:57:33):
Than absolutely, we don't make the venture decisions.

Speaker 10 (01:57:38):
Yeah, but I just think, yeah, just sitting there listening
to listen, Yeah, just listening to people saying it should
be here, it should be there. Yeah, it just sounds
like New Zealand's Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:57:52):
True, are you heading overseas? Are you going to move?

Speaker 25 (01:57:56):
No?

Speaker 10 (01:57:56):
No, I'm no, I'm actually forty and retired at the
moment so.

Speaker 2 (01:58:03):
Comfortably, Uh, not quite comfortable.

Speaker 10 (01:58:07):
I made I made most of my money on both coins.
So oh wow, yeah, so I cashed out, paid my
house off and yeah, now I'm just floating.

Speaker 2 (01:58:18):
What year did you buy it?

Speaker 11 (01:58:20):
Uh?

Speaker 10 (01:58:21):
Probably twenty twenty.

Speaker 2 (01:58:24):
Yeah, well it's not that long ago, is it.

Speaker 5 (01:58:27):
No?

Speaker 25 (01:58:27):
No, no, yeah, no, I.

Speaker 10 (01:58:31):
I just paid attention. Yeah, but I guess for most people, and.

Speaker 2 (01:58:37):
You say, and to make you would have had to
buy quite spend quite a bit of it. What you
doubled your money, did you?

Speaker 8 (01:58:43):
Oh no, I.

Speaker 10 (01:58:46):
Probably one hundred cks?

Speaker 2 (01:58:50):
Oh wow?

Speaker 13 (01:58:52):
Yeah?

Speaker 10 (01:58:53):
Wow, yeah, I think I borrowed ten thousand dollars on
my house and then five years later paid.

Speaker 2 (01:59:00):
It off cheapest. Do you know a lot of other
people that did that then?

Speaker 10 (01:59:06):
Uh no, they all proved, They all told me I
was mad.

Speaker 3 (01:59:12):
Yeah.

Speaker 10 (01:59:14):
Yeah, they still do.

Speaker 2 (01:59:16):
But also you must have had it, and that you
has to have stored everything, right, you didn't lose it
like in one of those exchanges that went down with
something like that.

Speaker 10 (01:59:23):
Oh no, we just like money, right, You don't put
your money with scammers. You don't put your bit called
with scammers.

Speaker 12 (01:59:30):
Right?

Speaker 2 (01:59:31):
Will you get back into bitcoin?

Speaker 9 (01:59:32):
Dan, Oh, I'm sorry.

Speaker 2 (01:59:35):
Okay, yep, no, I'm oh.

Speaker 23 (01:59:38):
I believe you.

Speaker 10 (01:59:38):
I believe in full time. But yeah, we're getting back
to the Arabis thing. I just think, man, that is
so New zeal We're just so fifty years ago and
the rest of the world is moving on. I know,
we just can't get anything done.

Speaker 2 (01:59:55):
Don't disagree, Dan, don't disagree seventeen past eleven, nineteen paste.
If you've got any comments on the whereabouts of where
the Arabis memorials should that is of interest certainly to
me and the callers. Seems between between christ Church and Auckland.
I know the Mirror of christ Church was very keen
to have it there, and I wasn't quite sure of
the reasons because I certainly don't think it's I mean,

(02:00:22):
I can't see the tourist potential of it. I don't
think it was ever thought build or something like that.
But yeah, I don't know. If there's other memorials around
the country that people do see as tourist things, you
might want to comment on that. I guess we've got
memorials for most of our tragedies, have we the Wahini
and things like that. I don't know if there's one

(02:00:42):
for the Balentine fire, is there, but certainly one for
the christ Church quake. I don't know if there's one
for the mosque shootings. Is there something? Maybe it's just
the actual building where it happened. And I guess that
becomes a living memorial, does it. But that's what we're
on at twenty past eleven. People, if you want to
talk here or twelve, be good to hear from you.
If you want there's something else you want to discuss
for the final go round for me, and yeah, be

(02:01:08):
a part of it. Oh eight hundred eighty ten eighty
and nine two nine two to text. Seems to be
quite internationally tonight from what I can see or certainly
from my news sources. But do jump in, DJI if
you want to talk. Oh eight hundred eighty ten eighty

(02:01:28):
and nine two nine two to text. Twenty one past eleven.
You're Tony, It's Marcus. Welcome, Hi Mane, how are you good?
Thanks Tony.

Speaker 25 (02:01:42):
So in regards to the Arabs crash in the memorial,
et cetera, in my opinion, I'm not sure if it
should go on site, which would be quite.

Speaker 14 (02:01:53):
You know, I think.

Speaker 25 (02:01:55):
A little bit of a waste in a lot of ways.
I'm potentially thinking maybe it should go somewhere towards like
the police headquarters or somewhere around there, because you know,
the recovery teams and what they went through for a
number of days afterwards was quite an achievement in itself

(02:02:18):
in my opinion. And I've read a few things at
high school randomly, I was actually bunking class and I
picked up a few books and I was reading about
it and got quite engrossed into it. And yeah, they
it was no small feat what they managed to do.

Speaker 2 (02:02:36):
And very you know, they went to terrible conditions without
much notice or no preparation to go and to a
crash site with all those bodies on the ice, and yeah,
I think yeah, And I think later time they've been
recognized for what they do, and I think it was
ground leading as well. There was all sorts of dental technicians.

(02:02:57):
There was dentists there doing research and stuff.

Speaker 15 (02:02:59):
It was.

Speaker 2 (02:03:00):
It was an extraordinary feat that what they did, I
think at.

Speaker 25 (02:03:04):
The time as well, you know, considering it wasn't you know,
it wasn't a recent thing like it, you know, nineteen
seventy nine, I believe like there's quite a feat Back then,
they wouldn't have had the advanced technology of arctic gear
and all those luxuries.

Speaker 21 (02:03:24):
That we have now.

Speaker 2 (02:03:26):
They're just up there. They're just up there camping too,
you know, and it's it's a mountains.

Speaker 25 (02:03:30):
Just they be working on the side of the mountain.

Speaker 2 (02:03:32):
Yeah, with Herridia's conditions, I exposed exposed to the one.
Then of course the seagulls and the skewers are coming
in also, so you've got to protect what the stuff
you recovered just sounded ghastly.

Speaker 25 (02:03:43):
Well in the back of my mind. The thing I
remember from this is so I'm thirty years old, but
I'm remembering this from maybe twelve or even eleven years old.
But when the job was done, the helicopter came to
pack them up, but it was it was too windy.
They couldn't quite grab the team. So the pilot threw
out a bottle of brandy and a couple of pair
of cigarettes, and the last of the police crew huddling around,

(02:04:07):
you know, smoking, drinking wow, waiting for the helicopter to
potentially come back.

Speaker 14 (02:04:13):
And it was it was hit or miss, you know.

Speaker 2 (02:04:17):
Yeah, good point, Tony, thank you. Hello Philip's Marcus, welcome.

Speaker 3 (02:04:22):
To make us. Unless I'm very much mistaken to my recollection,
it must have happened in late nineteen seventy nine by
I was at It's a normal primary school in Auckland,
and I'm pretty certain that one of the lady who

(02:04:43):
died in the crash was due to be a teacher
at It's a normal primary school in Auckland the following
year and we and I one thing I do really
remember is we planted a tree as a memorial tree
at the school. Now that would have been I'm pretty

(02:05:05):
sure that was very nearly that following year. It would
of been my I guess nineteen eighty and I kind
of remember where the I think when we're roughly we're
on the school grounds in part of the tree, and
there was a plaque under it. Now it's it is
possible I've got this completely wrong, and that's that's my recollection.

(02:05:29):
And I'm guessing someone else who remembers it more clearly
than me might call up and confirm what I've just said,
or possibly say, no, that was a completely different Well, it.

Speaker 6 (02:05:42):
Makes sense to me.

Speaker 2 (02:05:44):
I can image, I can imagure the sort of tree
that plant too, yeah, I mea sure there will be
a lot of that happening at schools around the country.
But you know what happens. I mean, are you awk
to be worth going to have a look rather school
to see if it was still there.

Speaker 3 (02:05:56):
I'm curious actually to go and see. I'm a couple
of thousand pays away from there at months. I can't
just pop down and look. But no, I'm sure there's
someone else who's been must be a teacher or an
ex pupil listening who knows what I'm talking about and
can concern that. But also my recollection was that it

(02:06:17):
was the surname was Chatterton or Chessendon or something like that, Yes,
which I think might have been, which sounds kind of
familiar from reading some of the articles about it. But yeah,
it is. It is like what one of the previous
calls said. I think it is actually embarrassing how long

(02:06:38):
New Zealand tends. I mean, the christ huge cathedral, so
many things. We spend a huge amount of money disagreeing
about small details about what to do about certain things,
huge millions, multimillions talking about what to do and then

(02:07:00):
not doing it.

Speaker 2 (02:07:01):
And look, it seems very much the modern condition. What
we've taught now, if you do something wrong, you apologize
sincerely and move on and that enables everyone to get
on with it. And that's what the airline should have
done and the government should have done, and they took them.
They didn't do it until Rob Fife was running in
us in and that probably was thirty years after it happened.

(02:07:23):
M you know so much more secrecies and cover our
pay And it's embarrassing because it's no way to run
any organization like that. You've got to front up and
be honest, otherwise no one moves forward.

Speaker 3 (02:07:36):
People just said that really remunated with me. And he's
not the only one that thinks that. You know, the
the length of time that we spend talking about stuff
is just futtterly absurd.

Speaker 2 (02:07:50):
It must be embarrassing and confusing for those people that
weren't around, that don't know about a must just see
this bad gee? What is this thing that's still going
on about? You know, forty seven years later, we're about
to you, by the way, A few thousands are you
in New Zealand?

Speaker 3 (02:08:03):
Yeah, I'm not far from you.

Speaker 2 (02:08:06):
No, I'll move on filth I just thought you might
be overseas. Thank you, Lindsay. Good evening, It's Marcus. Welcome.

Speaker 15 (02:08:14):
Good evening, Marcus Lindsay from in Chicago.

Speaker 2 (02:08:17):
Oh good.

Speaker 15 (02:08:19):
I've been trying to convince people or the Mbicago City
Council to put a memorial in the main street of
in Chicago for an instant that happened September forty nine
years ago, and I'd like it to be placed there
for the fiftieth.

Speaker 9 (02:08:41):
Sure.

Speaker 15 (02:08:43):
It was a police officer, Peter Murphy, aged twenty one.
He was shot dead, and we've got no public memorial
for him.

Speaker 2 (02:08:57):
Is it is it policy for there to be morials
for police that have been killed in the line of duty.

Speaker 15 (02:09:05):
So I've got a park in the police station, yes,
I thought they did have that, Yes, but this should
be a public one for the members of the public nowadays,
because half the people in Chicago wouldn't know this happened.
It was on the corner of Dns Street. September this

(02:09:27):
year will be forty nine years sure, and I was
going to approach the council at a council meeting about it,
but unfortunately I can't do that now because I've been
trespassed from the Civic Theater oh goodness.

Speaker 11 (02:09:44):
Yeah, why is that?

Speaker 15 (02:09:48):
Because there was a guy in Chicago many many years
ago called the Master, Master Frank Stapp, and they've got
a plarque in the Civic Theater of him, and just
recently they had a function and the plark was covered
and I was very upset over it. I felt it

(02:10:10):
was who who? Who was this guy Frank step He
called everyone the Master. He was break for bringing touring
shows and so okay, so he was a promoter. Well,
he was a local promoter.

Speaker 2 (02:10:28):
Okay, that's why he's got a plaque in the Civic Theater. Yes,
And and why was it covered up for a function?

Speaker 15 (02:10:36):
Somebody put a poster over top of his plaque and
I just felt it was.

Speaker 2 (02:10:42):
A poster for what.

Speaker 15 (02:10:45):
Tina Turner, uh imitator Tina Turner, you know, she said,
but she's.

Speaker 2 (02:10:55):
She's not coming to ENVI cargo, is she?

Speaker 15 (02:10:57):
Well, I don't know. I'm not allowed to go in
there house. I don't know.

Speaker 2 (02:11:01):
So when were you trespassed?

Speaker 15 (02:11:03):
Two weeks ago? And I'm devastated because I've worked at
the Civic Feather, I've.

Speaker 2 (02:11:11):
Been Tina Turner is dead, so yeah, okay, so who
trespassed you?

Speaker 15 (02:11:18):
The manager.

Speaker 2 (02:11:22):
And why do you want a memorial for the policeman?
Is he someone that you knew?

Speaker 15 (02:11:28):
I had a fat in this seeder of town and
I was that night. I was entertaining some guests when
it all happened, and we were running meters away from
where it happened.

Speaker 2 (02:11:43):
So we are a witness.

Speaker 15 (02:11:46):
Yes, Okay, does this feel that?

Speaker 2 (02:11:52):
Does his family want a memorial?

Speaker 15 (02:11:55):
Well, he doesn't come from the cargyle. There was about
four or five guys who died at Queen's Park many
many moons go, and I'll just put a memorial there.

Speaker 2 (02:12:08):
Yes, they have.

Speaker 15 (02:12:09):
Queen's Park, and I feel that we should have one
for the people of Uncable to know.

Speaker 2 (02:12:17):
Wouldn't that be wouldn't that be for his family to
be behind driving that? I mean, it seems as it
was only tangentially connected to you.

Speaker 15 (02:12:24):
Well, he was there protecting the people of them in
the cargo when it happened.

Speaker 2 (02:12:29):
Okay, good luck with that, Lindsay. Three I away from
twelve waiter at eighty ten eighty Marie, it's Marcus.

Speaker 12 (02:12:38):
Welcome hies.

Speaker 26 (02:12:41):
First of all, just very quickly, the Valentine's memorial. There
is one in christ Church at the Ruy Lawn Cemetery
and the inside the Elinore Mosque and Dean there Via
there's a memorial as well that the Muslim community have
put together.

Speaker 2 (02:13:01):
Thank you.

Speaker 26 (02:13:01):
That's going on to the erabus one. Back in nineteen
seventy nine was a pupil at Boston Primary School and
one of our teachers was killed in that.

Speaker 22 (02:13:12):
In the crash.

Speaker 26 (02:13:13):
She had taken the day off work to go and
find out more about the an tactics so that she
could have first hand information to her students.

Speaker 2 (02:13:26):
And Marie I have on anniversaries of Erebus, I have
spoken about her at quite a bit of length.

Speaker 22 (02:13:37):
And Christine Nicholson and there was.

Speaker 2 (02:13:39):
One woman that rang me and after all these years,
she said that I remember a word she said that
this girl. She said, I was a girl I had
a terrible home life and this teacher was everything to me.
And you know, even these must have been forty five
years that I could still hear that heartbreak and that
young child talking about that teacher. It was just harrowing.

Speaker 26 (02:14:02):
She was an incredible teacher. And the day following that
was the most surreal day that I think I've ever
gone through. And who and I trained as a teacher
and later on I could really appreciate what her colleagues
went through on that day to keep all of us

(02:14:24):
kids calm and try and look after us and not
worry about they didn't know what was happening to their comic. Yeah,
and that was amazing how they how they and we
didn't have They didn't we didn't have counselors coming to
the school back then to book to us or anything

(02:14:45):
like that. But it would be nice to hear a
memorial in christ Church, obviously for that reason. But I
also think that children growing up in christ Church have
a much more, a much deeper appreciation of the Antarctic
and that because growing up in christ Church, you're so

(02:15:06):
ingrained with the role of the Antarctic in our lives.
Not just the Antarctic Center, but every kid would just
go to the Arctic Center, but every kid would also
go to the Canary Museum, where there has been such
a you know, a significant display and.

Speaker 2 (02:15:23):
It's a fantastic display as well. It's one of the
greats with Hillary's tractor and all sorts of stuff. It's
a knockout.

Speaker 26 (02:15:29):
Yeah, absolutely, So you know, in the future, going through
kids in christ Church, we grew up knowing about Antarctica,
and back at Wilston School, we had a massive memorial
to her the library. It's no longer there, but the
library had a just about a you know, an alcove,

(02:15:53):
not just a small one, but a significant one with
a massive picture of the Antarctic pictures of her. It was,
it was huge, and I wouldn't be surprised if the
school still has something there. It's no longer Wilston School,
of what got under But yeah, what.

Speaker 2 (02:16:09):
Suburb was that in? Okay? Sorry you said that. Yeah,
I just I mean, I appreciate everything you say, and
I'm hearing you. I just always thought though that the
memorial was somewhere that grieving families could go to remember
their family members and remember that thing. And I would
have thought that most of the families that lost, I

(02:16:31):
mean a lot of people from Japan as well, but
most of the families probably or more of the families
probably would have come from Auckland. That was my only
thought about that. But that's yeah, that's the only thing.
I don't doubt anything you say about about christ Church
connection to it.

Speaker 26 (02:16:44):
Yeah, yeah, as I said, it's just just my thoughts
on it. That you know, we've got you here in
christ Church. We've got the Scott Robert Scott statue that
his wife, his wife created, So there's just so much
appreciation of the Antarctic here in christ Church.

Speaker 2 (02:17:03):
So I think, yeah, pretty extraordinary, get pretty extraordinarily get
the wife to make the sculpture of your dead husband,
then not pay her. I think that's the story. Yeah,
that's and that's going to be the greatest statue in
New Zealand, isn't it.

Speaker 26 (02:17:17):
Oh it's an awesome statue.

Speaker 2 (02:17:19):
Yeah, nice to talk, Marie, Thanks so much. Hold your horses.
Jay with you soon twenty two away from twelve o'clock,
Marcus till midnight. Good evening, Jay, welcome, Welcome.

Speaker 27 (02:17:30):
Marcus and the fellow listeners. Really enjoying the night again.
I listen every night. I mean what I enjoy you
just feel like you're part of the big family of
Kiwis throughout New Zealand and even overseas and nothing. It's
very special for talk. That helps a lot of us
who look by themselves and are getting old enough. I
really enjoy it. For my couple of two mob versus it.

(02:17:51):
I feel it would be great to have the memorial
down in christ Church, which has been pretty linked a
lot of stuff to do of Antarctica in itself and
for that reason, So that's why I reckon be really
good to have something really special death on there for
everyone who's knowing that New Zealand's been involved in tactic
over many many years. I was I nearly seventeen hours,

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but I remember clearly the crash and what upset me
more was all the carryings on over a number of
years of people blaming everybody, and it was just a
tragedy for everybody involved, and it got dragged out and
all kind of horrible things accusations. So I think needs
to be put to rest by somewhere down in christ
Church and they'll be really good for everyone, This is

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my opinion. The second thing is man from the Carver
your area hang up about police and that was shot
there down in the cargo.

Speaker 14 (02:18:48):
Is that right?

Speaker 9 (02:18:49):
Yes?

Speaker 27 (02:18:51):
And his name is Spud Murphy. And here's one of
my classmates at Sambrin's College. And I was pretty upset
when I heard about that. Didn't know any real details
of it more tonight, and they'd been shot some in
his inn, but I didn't know it was in the cargo.
So good on the guy who's liked to get a

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memorial because he was a really neat guy.

Speaker 2 (02:19:14):
It was a real Jay was at school in christ Church.

Speaker 27 (02:19:18):
No, no, lower hat college, lower Hat No, okay, thanks,
So that's where he was. One of my classmates and
a really neat guy, real big hearted guy, cared for people.
And I just was devastated when I heard it because
it really good and really will together. He's where he
came from.

Speaker 6 (02:19:37):
What you did?

Speaker 13 (02:19:38):
He say?

Speaker 2 (02:19:38):
That was, well, I guess if you are if he's
twenty one, there'll be forty nine years ago. Yeah he
said that, didn't he hear? Yeah?

Speaker 14 (02:19:46):
Yeah I was.

Speaker 5 (02:19:47):
I was there.

Speaker 27 (02:19:49):
Sixty nine, seventy seventy one, seventy two around that time.
But he's a real big, big guy, but real really
neat guy, and he would have been out doing his
best for us people that are serving them on the cargo.
And I'm just so grateful to know that was in
the cargalry but shot where it's still emotional perfect because

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can we go on so rall together? Yeah, appreciate that
he came from the area and went to Saint Bruna's College.

Speaker 2 (02:20:21):
Nice to hear from you. J thanks for information. Nineteen
to twelve is sixteen to twelve, Chris, good evening, it's Marcus. Welcome.

Speaker 28 (02:20:30):
I've good evening, Marcus. I was just thinking of memorials,
and I've not been too many, but one of the
most beautiful, oh if you can say that peaceful is the.

Speaker 24 (02:20:42):
Word very.

Speaker 28 (02:20:46):
Is the memorial to the aramuana victim and set in
a very green surrounding sort of off the road. Had
to know it's even there, and it's very basic and
very peaceful. And I've been there a couple of times

(02:21:07):
and it's just got the most calm, beautiful feeling about it.
And I guess that sort of memorial should be.

Speaker 12 (02:21:13):
It's not.

Speaker 28 (02:21:14):
I mean, anyone can go there, but it's never been
when I've been there, full of lots of people or
extravagance or it's stone wall. I won't comment too much
on it because I'm not directly affected, although I did
know and where it was the wife of Sergeant due

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Guthrie and I meet him once. But yet it's it's
set in a beautiful place out near the beach, among
the beautiful surrounding thing. It's just very, very peaceful.

Speaker 2 (02:21:51):
And what's the nice thing about that too, just reading
about that, Chris, because I have been there for a
couple of times. I'm not from there if I did
see that memorial or not, but it was exactly one
year later the people of Aaron, Majuana unveiled a memorial
to their friends and to their neighbors. So that's remarkable,
isn't it. They got it done.

Speaker 28 (02:22:11):
Find out how long it took them to a rector
when we were talking about the Arab this one, but
even the Cave Creek one. I have actually looked at
how long it took before they put that up, and
I think it was two years. So but yeah, I
just think memorials are meant to be peaceful and not

(02:22:34):
full of I mean, anyone can go there and remember.

Speaker 11 (02:22:38):
So yeah, what what is the cave?

Speaker 2 (02:22:43):
Is the Cave Creek memorial a plaque?

Speaker 16 (02:22:45):
Is it?

Speaker 28 (02:22:47):
I'm not sure I'm picture of it at all.

Speaker 2 (02:22:51):
So what a tragedy that was?

Speaker 28 (02:22:57):
Cave Creek looks like a rock in a park and
this is what I can see now. But yeah, definitely Aaron.

Speaker 2 (02:23:06):
Was well to get it done. To get it done
in a year, that seems an appropriate length of time,
doesn't it.

Speaker 28 (02:23:12):
Yeah, I think it's I didn't know how long it
took about. Yeah, that's a really good thing.

Speaker 7 (02:23:17):
That it was done.

Speaker 2 (02:23:18):
Do you do you live there? Do you live there, Chris?

Speaker 28 (02:23:21):
I live in Dunden, but it's very a lovely place
to go, of course, and I spend a bit of
time and port charms.

Speaker 2 (02:23:29):
Because you do feel when you go to Ara Mawana,
you do feel that you are because it's such an
end of the right place. You almost feel like you
are intruding on a community that's almost been intruded on.
You know, it's been intruded on once too many times.
You get that feeding.

Speaker 28 (02:23:43):
And I sometimes just gone and then walked down through
the the saltmash and around that way or out along
the beach, but not in the village. Yes, that's where
I do feel I'm intruding.

Speaker 2 (02:23:58):
Yeah, me too. For the last time I I did
that walk and you go the other way up the
big hill around the cost. It's amazing. It was amazing
walk with the views.

Speaker 28 (02:24:08):
Forgotten the name of it, but it's amazing.

Speaker 2 (02:24:11):
Right it looks right outular.

Speaker 28 (02:24:15):
Yeah, I've just forgotten the name.

Speaker 2 (02:24:19):
Memories. But look, I appreciate your call, Chris. It's a
very good point. And thank you so much for that.
You do it within a year. That's the spirit, Charlotte.
It's Marcus.

Speaker 21 (02:24:27):
Good evening, Oh good evening. Now I'm in Auckland. Are
through and through, born and bred, and I personally think
that the the memorial should be in christ Church. That
is where the plane departed from, and that was where
it was coming back to and back to me is

(02:24:48):
the case. I know that there might have been a
lot of Aucklanders and scuffed there on the plane, but
you know it was it was a christ Church thing,
and that's where the memorial.

Speaker 11 (02:24:59):
Belongs, Charlotte.

Speaker 2 (02:25:03):
The plane didn't leave from christ Church, I believe.

Speaker 21 (02:25:08):
I was listening I don't know, about a week or
so ago and it said there was a plane that
brought people down from Auckland and then the point of
departure was christ Church, which would sort of I would
have thought would have made sense because it ad be
closer to No, I don't think.

Speaker 2 (02:25:28):
They, and I have fact fact that just because because
my memories, it left from Auckland and yes, with a
whole lot of people on Yes, and it went to
who wanted to go, and it went to Antarctica and
didn't return. But the place it was supposed to the
port it was supposed to come back to. Adultimate destination

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was christ Church. But it didn't leave from Christach. It
left from No, left from Auckland and went straight down
to the ice. But but christ Church was its destination
because obviously it wasn't going to land at Antarctica. So
it was a flight from Aucklin to Rus via Antarctica.

Speaker 21 (02:26:09):
Oh, I thought it was the other way around. I thought, you, Yeah,
no crowd so to speak, came down and the plane departed.

Speaker 2 (02:26:16):
From But there were people from there are people from
there are people. There are people from christ churches that
had flown up to catch the plane from Auckland.

Speaker 18 (02:26:26):
I thought it was.

Speaker 21 (02:26:30):
The other way around.

Speaker 2 (02:26:31):
No, And look, and is Dan and I have done
And because I know it's such an emotional thing that
you've really got to get it right, and we were,
we were very careful to research that. And there is
there is maps online of the paths of the journey
to Charlotte that says but yes, it was. It was
a flight that went Auckland to christ Church via Antarctica.

(02:26:54):
So christ Church was its destination. But yeah, and and
I don't know who was saying the other stuff, but
it is confusing. Nine to twelve. Yeah, Petty, it's Marcus welcome.

Speaker 20 (02:27:09):
Yeah, hey Marcus. Just to confirm what you're saying. The
plane didn't leave from Auckland. My friend, her husband was
the pilot, and definitely I lost some people I knew
in the crash, and it did did not stop at

(02:27:30):
Close Church. It went straight through from Auckland. Had the
bulgar people on that plane were from Auckland, you would
have to say. I mean, there was some famous rugby
players on there was uh one of one of the
guys who played for was an All Black was on that.
And also I was in a film later on the

(02:27:55):
Erebus as murried as the pilot's wife's friend at a
dinner party. And I think in Yune was the Murray David.

Speaker 22 (02:28:10):
Yeah, yes, so, and yes it was.

Speaker 14 (02:28:14):
It was always an Auckland.

Speaker 20 (02:28:15):
Flight, you know. And I don't know why people think
it should be at Cross Church when the.

Speaker 14 (02:28:23):
Bulk of people on that.

Speaker 20 (02:28:26):
There was other flights of course that may have gone
to Cross Church, but that particular one that crashed, you know,
came from Auckland and was going to go straight back
to Auckland.

Speaker 2 (02:28:36):
Yes, I feel funny about the people of Christ Church.
It feels wrong to me.

Speaker 20 (02:28:41):
Yes, yes, yes, most of them.

Speaker 11 (02:28:46):
And was the wife.

Speaker 20 (02:28:50):
The one famous climber, his wife died on that flight
from Auckland.

Speaker 11 (02:28:56):
Yes, and yeah, yeah that there were.

Speaker 2 (02:29:01):
Peter Peter, Peter mulgrew was on it. He was, he
had gone on there as a commentator.

Speaker 20 (02:29:08):
Yeah. Yeah, And I mean this is so many Oaklanders
on that flight.

Speaker 2 (02:29:13):
Yeah.

Speaker 20 (02:29:14):
And if you go out to what they've got now,
I think it's at the crematorium in the and he
it's not great and all be nice to finally get
it done, you know. Is I think my cousin who

(02:29:35):
lost us two daughters, two sisters, I think he's not
going to see it unfortunately. And here he got a
trip down there recently. They took a lot of the
relatives down and all of.

Speaker 11 (02:29:49):
Them were from Auckland.

Speaker 20 (02:29:50):
Nearly all of them were from Auckland.

Speaker 16 (02:29:53):
Yeah.

Speaker 20 (02:29:53):
So I mean, I don't know why they think it's Christ.

Speaker 2 (02:29:58):
No, and I think the Christ wants it, which which
I don't. I don't think it's something that you want.
It's got to go where the families want it as
the most appropriate place. Absolutely, if you're quite strongly about that.

Speaker 20 (02:30:10):
But that's yeah, yeah, yeah, oh well, good luck.

Speaker 2 (02:30:17):
Thank you Savann. It's Marcus welcome.

Speaker 22 (02:30:21):
Yeah, hi, Hi. I'm more sure if anyone mentioned these
Arabs memorial at Auckland Airport.

Speaker 2 (02:30:29):
Yeah, I think that's one for the staff, isn't it. Yes,
it's a good looking thing, or it's just it's.

Speaker 22 (02:30:37):
He is quite nice and meat's actually want to walk
the day. I just came across it, Randy, was quite beautiful.
There's a bench you consider on very nice meat.

Speaker 2 (02:30:46):
Yeah, I'm just looking at the role of remembrance. There
was a huge staff from you in New Zealand on
the flight. It seemed as though there was about I mean,
looking through it now, it seemed as though there was
I mean more staff than I could have mentioned. It
seems like there was about twenty or thirty people from
in New Zealand on the plane roughly.

Speaker 14 (02:31:02):
Yeah.

Speaker 22 (02:31:03):
Hey, Marcus, do you remember me calling it back people
littering a while ago?

Speaker 7 (02:31:07):
Yes?

Speaker 22 (02:31:09):
Yeah, Eversteners, I called you high listening to people litering.
Now we far called you. I see people handsful of times.
I used to have brought people for four or five
time of the day. Now I hardly see it bloom maybe.

Speaker 2 (02:31:21):
Yeah, good mate, congratulations you've made a change that there
was twenty one crew and counting Peter mulgrew as the
commentator on that flight. It's a lot of people. That's
it for me people that So I've enjoyed that last
hour with talking about that. That was good to get
into that. And I will talk to again tomorrow night
from eight pm. Enjoy your Thursday and I'll talk to

(02:31:46):
you tomorrow night. Thanks for those callers. Enjoyed it muchly see. Yeah,
have a good one.

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