He's been out with Miss Hamilton (9 October 2024)

Are some people luckier than others?

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Speaker 1 (00:07):
You're listening to the Marcus Lush Nights podcast from News Talks.

Speaker 2 (00:11):
I'd be we'll keep all eyes on Hurricane Milton tonight.
This is going to be one of the biggest hurricanes ever.
Slightly confusing, but it's supposed to hit on Wednesday evening.
I think that's Florida time. Think it's about twenty hours
away from hitting the coastpt or across that. People there's
a storm surge. I know a little bit about storm
surges with that great storm that hit Galveston or about

(00:32):
nineteen hundred something like that. Then of course Katrina also
literally Katrina and the waves came and undated that. That
was amazing. But anyway, across that will keep you updated. Wow,
talking quickly, what's that about?

Speaker 3 (00:46):
Who?

Speaker 2 (00:48):
They can't believe how intense of this thing came or became,
and how quickly it became that and how symmetrical it
is because there's not many sheer winds to distort it.
It's like a bullseye. So much energy in the gulf,
it's like a bath. Anyway, been doing a bit of
reading about Milton. It's kind of it's got the meteorologist

(01:11):
kind of going wow, amazed and kind of slightly terrified.
So all across that tonight anyway, though it will be
dark there in Florida until about two in the morning
our time, when the sunrise will be there. So we're
not going to talk about weather or night though. But
if there is breaking news it happens, I will keep

(01:34):
you updated with that. That's kind of a big thing
about the show at night is to keep you across
what's happening in the world and back at you. If
you've got stuff to let us know, let us know
about that stuff. Also, you guys have been doing pretty
good with that, so yeah, if there's other stuff that
you've got to let us know about, feel free to

(01:56):
phone it through or text it through eight hundred and
eighty eight and nine to text. Here'll twelve if you
want to be a part of it. So really looking
forward to what you've got to say tonight. And when
it comes to breaking news and what you've got, well,
I don't really mind basically what it is. If you

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think it's news, I think it's news. So get in
touch with that. Oh, eight hundred eighty eight nine two
nine two to text. Thirty years since the death of
Kirk Cobain, It's kind of amazing, isn't it. I wouldn't
have guessed that today one of those things I knew
or I was where I heard that information. But look,

(02:36):
as I say, so, the way the show works, you
can call, you can text, or you can email. The best,
by far is calling texts okay, particularly if your voice
is not great or if you can't really talk on here,
you might be recognized. We can distort voices, but do
come through as I say, oh, eight hundred eighty ten

(02:57):
eighty nine nine to text. So what should we talk
about tonight? I've always got a plan and a plan B.
But if your plan is good enough, you don't need
a plan B. But I've got tonight, a plan A
and a planning although I think my Plan A.

Speaker 3 (03:12):
Is it well.

Speaker 2 (03:13):
I want to start talking about tonight, and I was
going to almost mentioned it last night, but I didn't
because we got talking about Tom Phillips and pies and
the likes. Here's a question I have, and I don't
really like to start for a question, but I'm going
to start with a question because I want to investigate
this and the statement I am asking, or the state

(03:34):
the question I am making. Almost in the kind of
a statement us. Here we go. It's going to sound
I'm just going to say it. People are going to
take a deep breath, They're going to say it. Are
some people luckier than others? I've never done a night

(03:56):
on luck, but I'm just curious to know if you
if you, yourself or members of your family have extraordinary luck,
and you always say, oh, that's old Ginger John always lucky,
or that's old Cerriah always wins every raffles she goes into.
So are you someone that's unbelievably lucky or do you know?
Is that a thing? And what is that thing? If

(04:19):
it is a thing, why I'm not lucky. I'm not unlucky,
but I'm not lucky. I'm not someone that everything I
enter I'll win. I've probably won nothing. If there is
a raffle at a pub or at a galar and
they hand out those little books of tickets like four
red hearts, I don't win those. They're not things I've won.

(04:44):
The only thing I've ever won, right, the only thing
I've ever won in my life I am l is
at the local dairy, they had a at the local dairy,
they had a Rothman's promotion, and they had a barbecue
that would fold up like a briefcase. This must be

(05:06):
ninety seventy seven. Now if you guess how many packets
of cigarettes are and the barbecue, you won the barbecue,
not the cigarettes. All of this sounds daft, doesn't it.
And I won that barbecue, but I mainly win that barbecue,
probably through obsession and entering more times than probably anyone else.

(05:29):
And that's not really luck, is it If it's against
the number of items in the jar? That skill. So
you're not that lucky, but not unlucky. And I'm not
going to be here is I'm not going to be
I'm not gonna be Nathan negative and just trying to
make out that I had a tough life because I'm
not unlucky, because I'm unlucky, because I'm not unlucky, but

(05:49):
I'm just not super lucky. And I think we all
know people that are super lucky that win everything all
the time. Do you know those people? Are you one
of those people? Because I want to talk about luck?
So if that is, you, let me know. If you're
Larry lucky, get in touch or you might know someone

(06:11):
they might have won lot. Oh they might have won this,
they might have won that, they might have won more
things than any one person should probably win. And that's
what I want to investigate tonight. If you've got anything
to say about that, I'd love to hear from you,
because every family has some Oh he's always lucky, They're
always lucky. I don't know what it is, but yeah,

(06:36):
and I wouldn't mind some of your or you might
be an unbelievably unlucky person, but I actually think someone
that is unbelievably unlucky is just normal because most things
you enter, there's a lot of other people entering, and
it would be normal to not win. That's my theory
on this. So if you've got it, if you've got
a theory yourself on luck or an experience of your own,

(06:59):
that's what deadly love to hear about you from tonight.
Oh eight hundred and eighty ten eighty and nine to
nine two to text luck and how has it worked
for you or hasn't it worked for you? You can text,
you can email, but I'd rather have your calls. Born lucky.

(07:22):
Ironically to your intro, the unluckiest person I know is
Larry Marcus. If it wasn't for no luck. I'd have
no if it wasn't for bad luck. I have no
luck at all, Marcus. There are undoubtedly people who are
unluckier than others. Marcus, you can distort voices, question Mark.

(07:47):
If that is the case, I'll definitely be a first
time caller. I think I've downloaded a NAP. I think
I've done load. I think I've done this before, haven't I.
I think I've downloaded a voice distorter. I'm pretty sure
I've done that. That's kind of the lengths they go

(08:08):
to to disguise your voice. I'll see if I can
do it now. Voice distorter, Halloween voice changer, that's the
one we'll use. Get install and it's got inbound, inbound

(08:30):
things you can buy. That's what I like installing that
as we speak, Lucky, how lucky? Are you unbelievably lucky?
Or do you know someone unbelievably lucky? That's what I
want about tonight. Get in touch if that's you. Negative.
Nathan was unfortunately negative. Nathan was actually the victim of

(08:50):
an electical mishap. Oh, the Texters are having fun? Can
we distort people's voices?

Speaker 4 (08:59):
Dan?

Speaker 2 (09:03):
Why? Why can't we do it? In real time? What
is the what is the piece of kit? Hello, Hello,
I've got this one for Halloween. Voice change would like
to access the microphone allow, I'm all all in on that.
Hello Hello, I got my headphones on the kit. Hello Hello,

(09:28):
I have to read the instructions. He where are the
damn instructions from a voice changer? Evil pumpkin?

Speaker 5 (09:44):
He instruction instruction?

Speaker 2 (09:50):
Quite good? I I have a voice. I have a
voice coming back to me to con I already confused
myself with I can't push the od off. But hello, Hello, Hello, Hello,
testing Hello, no cabs A funny old bank thing. Come up, Christine,

(10:11):
It's Marcus. Welcome, Good evening, high Christine. Have we a luck, Christine,
Marcus welcome. Sorry about that. I don't have most luck
with my buttons. What have you got?

Speaker 5 (10:23):
Well, I've got a story about luck. But it was
luck that I really.

Speaker 6 (10:27):
Made myself well.

Speaker 5 (10:29):
See over thirty years ago. Now, I used to enter
a great number of radio station competitions, and I had
so many prizes I don't even think I can possibly listen.
But at the time I had the first prize I
got actually was only Smith show. It was a trip

(10:51):
to Hobart. And that's how long ago started? And I
had two trips to Fiji, I had a trip to Hawaii,
I had a couple of trips to Australia. I had money,
I had two bikes, I had is all over Alpin,
I had CDs for miles and it just went on

(11:12):
and on and for ages, and then my circumstances changed
and so that was it.

Speaker 7 (11:17):
That was the end of it.

Speaker 5 (11:18):
But people used to say to me, oh, Christin, you're
so lucky, and I said yes, but do you enter
these competitions like I do? And they'd say no. So
I'd say, well, you've got to make your own luck.
And it was a lot of that was knowing certain
amounts of music or answers to questions, or sometimes it
was just being the tenth to caller through and you know,

(11:41):
two hundred and fifty dollars for the daily cash payout
sort of thing. So yeah, I had, I had tons
of things, but I made it for myself.

Speaker 2 (11:52):
So you ended everything, and when you ended something, you
put a lot of evident into it. Is that right?

Speaker 5 (11:57):
Well, I can remember driving my kids mad because I
would say, sh shush it, you know that the things
coming up, Christine.

Speaker 2 (12:08):
Christine, what were your children's name out of interest, Michael, Oh, no, okay,
I just was intermediate school with a woman with a woman,
a girl was she and her mother was always winning stuff.
I just wonder if it was the same person. But
her name was Maria, but her mother was forever winning stuff.
But obviously wasn't you because and his britt used to

(12:31):
be Maria. But that doesn't sound likely, does it.

Speaker 8 (12:33):
No?

Speaker 2 (12:33):
Okay, no, no, it.

Speaker 5 (12:35):
Was a most phenomenal amount of stuff that you could
ever dream of. But as I say, things change, that
just stopped.

Speaker 2 (12:44):
It was Move Smith, was Move Smith? Not sick of
you winning?

Speaker 5 (12:49):
No, No, it's the only thing I ever got on
this on.

Speaker 2 (12:52):
This that was the Hobart trip.

Speaker 3 (12:54):
Yeap was the other thing?

Speaker 2 (12:57):
Was the other thing on other radio stations.

Speaker 5 (13:00):
Oh, it was all sorts of other radio stations. A
lot of eighty nine years.

Speaker 2 (13:04):
Then you know, yes, yes, yes, yes I do.

Speaker 5 (13:08):
Radio. I have people have a beautiful little diamond pendant
with an eye on it on it that I got
from radio. I said, so long ago, years ago.

Speaker 2 (13:18):
Who would have been the host on radio I that
would have given you that?

Speaker 5 (13:27):
I don't I can't remember.

Speaker 2 (13:28):
And when you say your circumstance changes. Did you stop
entering things?

Speaker 5 (13:33):
Yes, I hate to go out and get a job.

Speaker 2 (13:38):
I see like very interesting, Christine, thank you. I guess
the question is is this such a thing as luck?
Have you ever come across anyone that's genuinely lucky, like
genuinely lucky, like somebody think, Wow, how lucky are they?
I don't know what the situations. When someone's house floods
or get hit by a landslideer they survive, is that luck.

(14:00):
I don't know if that's lucky or unlucky, but it's
probably something we need to discuss. Eight hundred eighty ten
eighty and Marcus, welcome, good evening.

Speaker 9 (14:09):
Marcus holl you mean goods. Let's talk about luck.

Speaker 10 (14:12):
Man.

Speaker 9 (14:13):
You know, I'm from a family background. I was I
wasn't the golden boy of the family, and we went
through some hard times and came out on top of
the as a younger, younger falla brothers and sisters and
cousins and whatnot, decided to do the rebellion later on
the life and yeah, I'm now a golden boy. And

(14:40):
after the after the family passed the station and whatnot,
I'm sort of in charge of of a beef and
minooka honey and sheep and did it input Wow, don't
you me wrong here? You know I'm none of those
you like I said, I did all that. There's a

(15:01):
young boy, you know. I've spent time inside and what
they There's been a bit of ani but things things
have fanned out pretty good.

Speaker 11 (15:10):
It's a good story I've met.

Speaker 9 (15:13):
I've met a woman as well. I've met a woman
and she's and she's had she's had had the wealth too,
and she's got a lot more wealth than me and her.
But yeah, look, I just want to say, luck is
you know, luck for me coming from where I've come from.

(15:34):
I used to stand on mountaintops and talk speak to
the universe, manifest luck as the manifestation. People say, luck is.

Speaker 10 (15:42):
What you make.

Speaker 9 (15:43):
It, But what do you make it as a manifestation?
That you've got to talk to the universe. It's going
to sound a bit weird.

Speaker 12 (15:49):
I know.

Speaker 9 (15:50):
Yeah, we going with us, but you've got to talk
to the universe about this stand on the mountain that
the universe can't hear you when when you know you're
muttering under your breath, can't stand on the mountain top. Yeah, there,
Who am I? What do you want? And the universe
avoys me? It just it's a buzzy one.

Speaker 13 (16:08):
But were you Were you.

Speaker 2 (16:11):
The most suitable person in the family to want to
hear it, the Manuka honey and the beef fan.

Speaker 9 (16:16):
I was, Yeah, I was the at the end of
the day. Yeah, so it's well it.

Speaker 2 (16:24):
Might it mightn't be like it might just be that
you were the most suitable or you worked the hardest.

Speaker 9 (16:29):
Well, I worked the hardest in another life. Well and
and uh, you know there was all the family still
turning away doing the doing the you know, but I
was away in in another world, I suppose, doing my thing.
And yeah, uh I did the work to get back

(16:52):
to that, you know, after learning that that world of
the underworld wasn't the wasn't the way forward? Done done
the work on myself here, I guess you could start
to be to say that lucky's what you eat.

Speaker 2 (17:10):
That is my story with how you meet? Is there
a story with how you meet your partner?

Speaker 9 (17:15):
Well, no, well she's Australian. I send you some time
over and yeah he's odd, he's yeah know, she's Australian.
So I don't.

Speaker 2 (17:27):
Know how you puts that sounds a bit sketchy. Being
nice to hear from you. Thank you twenty nine past eight.
I got texts. I will get to those.

Speaker 3 (17:33):
Luck.

Speaker 2 (17:34):
My sister was always lucky on the scratchy. She wins
fifties and one hundreds. I'd win one or two dollars
like most people. She went to the consider organstid he
put twenty bucks of the Paker machine, hit the button
twice in hay Presto twenty four and a half grand
from Dean Marcus, the local tire shop owner, and or
porta key one lotto twice. Back in the nineties. I

(17:54):
might as Lawnsy kept buying you. Ride on MA was
great fun for teenager Jason Marcus when I was in
Missouri recently. We're at a local bar having a few
beers and the feed as you do. They were running
a raffle. First prize was an AR fifteen rifle only
in America. Email Alert, email Marcus. I believe if you

(18:18):
work hard, be kind to yourself and others, and live
a well balanced life, make good decisions, luck will come
your way. Ah boohood of that. I know fantastically people
with fantastic antiquity. They have no luck, So yeah, it
doesn't seem to be I mean when you look at
it that way, it doesn't even seem to be fair
or even. But your opinion about this also eight hundred

(18:41):
and eighty Tay nine nine two six. We are talking luck.
It'd be good to hear from as I say, we'll
keep you updated if you've got other news that's happening.
What is that? Where is that? What's happening with that?
Roger Tavass has been named in the Samo and Toura
Samo squad and that will be for the Rugby League.

(19:01):
I presume our captained by Penouth Jerome Lewai boy. I'll
tell you what the tongue and team and the Sarmomon team,
they look pretty good toa Samo Anthony Milford, Blaizeddar Langi,
Dane Madona, Francis Mollard, Gordon Chankame tong Asak Tago, Jack Tagos,
Jerom Luai, Jest Avenger, Jerald Skelton, Jeremiah and I, John Siata,

(19:24):
Josiah Pahulu, Junior, Paulga, Keenan Palasia, Lesraus Valippu, Luciano le Lua,
Paul Roach, Ricky Lutelli Rts, Shane Bloor, Sumi Sasagi, Terrell May.
That's the team that's just been announced, the Samoan team.
Oh eight hundred and eighty, Teddy twenty seven to nine.
My name's Marcus. Welcome your stories of your luck and

(19:45):
our people lucky, get in touch. It's we're on about tonight.
Mm hmmmm m. A while back, an American man had
picked the same exact same lottery numbers every week for decades.
One week he didn't have enough money to buy his ticket,
he set and watch the live draw on TV as

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all his numbers were drawn. First prize was almost two
hundred million. When I showed my brother the newspaper article,
it's a response was that's karma or just bad luck.
Get in touch, save your misogyny with a skipper of

(20:27):
the ship too. I don't want those texts so much.
End good evening and welcome.

Speaker 3 (20:33):
Did I Marcus. I've got a bit of an unlucky
and the lucky story. So my brother and I went
to my cousin's wedding in England, and on the way
there he ended up getting alcoholic poisoning, jet lag and
Malaysian fever. So legend he was dropped for about two

(20:54):
months and lost about I don't know, twenty kg's almost
he was incredible legend. Yeah yeah, I know. But the
night before the wedding we went to my auntie's house.
There was twenty mile journey to a thing in a
couple of cars with some friends and family, and had
a meal there and then we thought, off, we're gone
back back home for the evening. We thought we'd have

(21:15):
a bit of a race, and we thought we knew
a shortcut, so of course we got lost. Naturally, this
is in England, and eventually all the houses looked similar
to a few terrorist houses, and we turned up finally
at the door, and we knocked on the door and
this woman answered it, this young young girl basically, and
we thought, oh, hang on, we must have long house.
And then we realized it was my brother in law

(21:37):
to be's sister, and I didn't even know he had
a sister, and sort of instantly headed off. And my
brother was still a bit crook and whatnot. And then
the next day we had the wedding and we were
both ushers by chance, so that was quite lucky. And
then the night of the wedding we ended up going
back to the house with my other cousin and the
three of us just sat there all night long, talking

(21:59):
and having a bit of fun. And yeah. So I
was really lucky to meet my wife that night basically,
and we got married about four years so yeah, yeah, no,
it's amazing really. Yeah. So actually so my cousin married
her brother basically.

Speaker 2 (22:12):
Yeah, love to unpick there.

Speaker 3 (22:15):
Yeah, I know, we were we were lucky.

Speaker 4 (22:16):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (22:18):
Did he get our colock poisoning before he got on
the plane or did he get that in Malaysia?

Speaker 3 (22:23):
I no, he got it in Singapore actually, of all places. Yeah, yeah,
so it wasn't good.

Speaker 2 (22:27):
What sort of session was he on to get our
collo poisoning?

Speaker 3 (22:31):
Well, we actually went to we had a Singapore sling
in Raffle of all places. So but we only had
we only had one drink in there, and it wasn't
that bad really, but we did we did have some
some cand of beer we never even drunk before. But
it wasn't like a heavy session or anything. But yeah,
but he lost he lost so much weight it was incredible.

Speaker 4 (22:52):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (22:52):
Yeah, a bad pint. So so you go, who's the
wedding were you going to?

Speaker 3 (22:58):
So it was it's actually our cousin.

Speaker 2 (23:01):
Yeah yeah, sah, yeah, it was your cousin's wedding, wedding
and you married and you married your cousin's husband's cousin.

Speaker 3 (23:11):
My cousin's husband's sister. Yeah okay, well yeah yeah, and
we've been married to more than thirty two years now.
So yeah, it was a few years ago.

Speaker 2 (23:22):
And whereabouts in England was it? Because people like that
were mentioned towns in England.

Speaker 3 (23:27):
Yeah.

Speaker 6 (23:27):
So so.

Speaker 3 (23:31):
My aunt who lived in Petersfield in Hampshire, and the
house was actually in Portsmouth where we were staying for
the night, et cetera. And the wedding was up in
Petersfield as well. Yeah. So a great area of the country.

Speaker 2 (23:44):
What a fantastic trip for your destination wedding. You go
and you meet your wife.

Speaker 3 (23:48):
Yeah, amazing. So yeah, so and then we had a
really tiny wedding when we got married in a registry office.
But and my father in law he was actually lieutenant
in the British Navy, so we got the big sword
out and did all that sort of thing, and yeah,
that was really good, great wedding.

Speaker 2 (24:04):
And when you're the guy that got alcoholic poison was
at your brother another cousin.

Speaker 3 (24:08):
Ye was that was my brother? Yeah? Yeah, yeah, you
know it's my brother who's got alcoholic poisoning. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (24:13):
So yeah, would you consider would you consider him lucky?
Not really?

Speaker 3 (24:19):
Oh no, he's probably been quite lucky in all his life. Yeah,
and he's actually gone out with some amazing women in
his time. I don't know how he manages it, but
he's been out with Miss Hamilton and yeah, yeah, he

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had some lucky.

Speaker 2 (24:43):
This might be the best on talkback. He's gone out
with Miss Hamilton. This funny evening message. Marcus, welcome.

Speaker 14 (24:54):
Thanks, I tell you.

Speaker 6 (24:59):
Go straight to the top of this.

Speaker 9 (25:01):
Paul, I agree with you completely.

Speaker 14 (25:05):
Good luck going out with I'm the luckiest spoke.

Speaker 15 (25:15):
Well.

Speaker 2 (25:15):
The great question. The great question was Hamilton is why
she's still in Hamilton. I suppose it's what's run first
of mine.

Speaker 14 (25:21):
But anyway, yeah, I like I like that.

Speaker 9 (25:25):
It was good.

Speaker 14 (25:26):
I don't often listen, but I somehow tuned in tonight
and that was brilliant. That's why you should listen to
talk Back anyway. I don't know how you do on
the subject, but luck for me is I've got wor
kids and they all came out normal and seemingly healthy,
and I reckon the definition of luck in this world

(25:46):
is having a healthy baby or not having a healthy baby,
because there's many you don't hear about. It's ridiculous, and
it's famous big guy who was talking about a good
meeting story. There's a lot of good meeting stories that
didn't really work out. So I consider myself lucky, and
I encourage anyone to just think of out their life

(26:07):
and just go my luckier? Am I unlucky? If you're lucky,
help people that are unlucky, And if you're unlucky, find
someone who's lucky and ask them for help.

Speaker 2 (26:17):
Nice thoughts met, thank you, Wow, Wow, Sureley, it's Marcus.
Welcome our lucky Shirley. Good evening, Good evening.

Speaker 15 (26:28):
I have a bad luck good luck story and it
involves my grandson. We had a house in Taco on
the lake. We had breaken in the house by the lake.
The grandson was going fishing with his mate. Their boat
broke down outside the house that was burgled, and some

(26:54):
nineteen years previous, the burglars decided to dump some of
the stolen gear into the lake. The grandson decides to
throw a rotto while singing the motor he hooked into
a rod and a reel and he pulled it up.
And the good luck was that it had his grandfather's

(27:16):
name on it.

Speaker 2 (27:18):
Extrawdinary story, and that was in good condition. The rod
and reel, they'd be right in the water for all
those years.

Speaker 15 (27:23):
Yes, it was a fiberlight one, and it still had
the line, and it still had the ginger mech on
the end of the line that the husband had been
using at the time.

Speaker 2 (27:34):
Did there was it immediately a parent what had happened?
Or it takes some putting together to work it all
out to some back engineering.

Speaker 15 (27:41):
Yeah, Well, the husband had this thing about embroidering everything
he owned and put his name on everything he owned
with his little engraver. So this grandson now has the
rod and the rail in his and he's showing it
off with pride that he found his granddad's rod nineteen

(28:03):
years after it had been stolen out of the house
and he.

Speaker 2 (28:06):
Knew he knew straightaway that that was the one that
had been stolen. He was aware of all of that.

Speaker 15 (28:10):
Was he We couldn't believe the fact that when they
rolled off all the mold on the real they found
his grandfather's name.

Speaker 6 (28:20):
He couldn't believe it.

Speaker 2 (28:21):
And the grandfather Roberson knew that, and it was knowing
that that was stolen in the robbery.

Speaker 15 (28:25):
Right, absolutely, yes, absolutely, And.

Speaker 2 (28:29):
Look, and I presume surely you're referring to a lure,
the ginger mick. Is that what it's called?

Speaker 15 (28:36):
Yes, this the lure, a very common ginger mack and
lake to.

Speaker 2 (28:42):
Is it is the last word m I see, Yes.

Speaker 15 (28:45):
That's what they call it, a ginger mick. And a
lot of ladies go fishing with a ginger mick.

Speaker 2 (28:51):
I just want to see it. I want to visualize it.

Speaker 3 (28:53):
Ah.

Speaker 2 (28:53):
Yes, that's just quite a simple and elegant looking thing,
is it? With a brown almost like the color of
his shape? Bear with that's the ginger mick jigging fly.

Speaker 3 (29:02):
Yeah, that was a.

Speaker 15 (29:03):
Good luck bad luck story. But Marcus, can I please
just make a small comment. Sure, I'd just like to
thank you for filling in my evenings. My husband passed
away two months ago, and you absolutely fill in the
very quiet nights that i'm having now, So thank you.

Speaker 2 (29:19):
Look, I thought you're going to tell me off, Shirley,
So I'm relieved that's not. That's nice. That's a nice
it's a lovely and a very nice thing to say, Shulie,
I thank you muchly for that. That means a lot
to me. You're gonna tell me off about something that,
Oh he not respectful enough to that man. Oh, Suley,
that's delightful. Thank you so much. I am glad. I

(29:40):
am here for you.

Speaker 3 (29:42):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (29:43):
So yeah, that's that's moved me. That's moved me muchly.

Speaker 3 (29:48):
Wow.

Speaker 2 (29:49):
Why don't they go on there? That was a good
story about the guy making concrete blocks and the other
guy into waste disposal stuff, and wow, that parallel lives?

Speaker 1 (29:59):
Is that?

Speaker 2 (29:59):
How do you work the more lucky you have. I
don't even know that that's true.

Speaker 15 (30:03):
Is it.

Speaker 2 (30:06):
One of those things that people that do?

Speaker 12 (30:08):
All right?

Speaker 2 (30:08):
So, oh, the hardier make your own luck, the hardier
work all the big questions tonight, it's all about luck.
Oh eight hundred and eighty Teddy and nine to text,
get in touch, get amongst it. If you're been trying
to get through, keep trying. Lines will become available as

(30:31):
the night goes on. See what we had no luck
with the weather down south? Its terrible. Oh god, here
we go, Marcus. Someone told me luck stands for labor
under correct knowledge. Wow, Hi, Tina, glad, I'm there for you, Tina.

(31:03):
Tony Marcus, welcome.

Speaker 16 (31:10):
Tony again, your local lawnmower man.

Speaker 2 (31:13):
Here he again, Good Tony, real good.

Speaker 16 (31:16):
Not your Motown Mowing?

Speaker 3 (31:18):
Is my name?

Speaker 2 (31:19):
Were you based?

Speaker 16 (31:21):
I'm based in South Aukland.

Speaker 2 (31:22):
It's a great name. Motown Mowing is fantastic. So well
done with that, I.

Speaker 16 (31:27):
Thought, so everybody. Everybody loves the work and everybody loves
the price. You're looking at the marketplace.

Speaker 2 (31:34):
Are you looking for new clients?

Speaker 16 (31:36):
Oh? Always looking for new clients.

Speaker 2 (31:38):
You're not going to sublet it, though you When I
call Motown Mowing, I want you tuning up, Tony. I'm
not gonna want one of your understudies. Do I get
you at the front door.

Speaker 16 (31:46):
No, you get me at the front door. You get
me giving the quote, You get me doing the work,
and you get me taking the money.

Speaker 2 (31:56):
Have you got electric that great?

Speaker 11 (32:00):
Good?

Speaker 2 (32:00):
Would like to hear?

Speaker 16 (32:01):
Okay, yep, But anyway, hard lack stories. I've got a couple.
But I guess from my younger days, I I was
a bit of a roma. So I went for a
ride or one of my uncles and his friends one
day and we ended up in Dugable and we ended

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up with a broken down van. So it took me
and my uncle like four days right back to Awkward.

Speaker 2 (32:29):
Four days.

Speaker 16 (32:31):
Four days we walked both of the way days took
out four days. You had to stop and at some
town and stay at some halfway house.

Speaker 11 (32:41):
There.

Speaker 16 (32:41):
We found a kind of like a late night place
where we turned up there at about one in the morning,
knocked on the door and they weren't going to let
us in, but they let us stay the night because
they saw that disparately were And yeah, I took four
days man to get back to Awkward from Doggable.

Speaker 2 (32:54):
Yeah you could could you could walk it? And Ford,
did you look really skitchy?

Speaker 16 (33:01):
Well, my uncle did you? Only eighteen? There's people in
no way else during them off But yeah, no, I mean,
you know, it was just we just couldn't get it right.
You know, we just couldn't get it right.

Speaker 2 (33:15):
Who put you? Who put you in touch with the
halfway I haven't heard about these halfway houses for choking.

Speaker 16 (33:20):
No, I don't know what it was that we just
came across it, you know, we just you know, got
out of the country and we come across as town
and fight for on and knocked on the door. We
saw the we saw the church, and they recommend us
to go there. So they gave us a little bit
of food and stuff. Salvation Army and their church.

Speaker 3 (33:40):
Yeah.

Speaker 16 (33:40):
Yeah, one of the one of those things where you
just there's something you never get, you know, because even.

Speaker 2 (33:45):
If you got left after four days, you'd say, look
at it, you go to auk And I can't be
bothered because that sort one.

Speaker 16 (33:52):
Yeah, we got fun with us, but you know, not
a lot. I mean one one guy was going to
take us all the way to Afford until until his
missiles started flipping out. And no, yeah, four days man, yeah,
three days and years, three days, three nights, and one
day this South African guy and has came to there

(34:12):
and packed us up just down by the bottom of
the bomb baby yep, picked us up down there and
took us all the way to eventually dropped us off
at the house in Auckland in Southton. So yeah, he
was good there and we're hungry as and he had
had no money and he had like he had like
a little fridge in the back there and he's telling
us how about and he's biscuits.

Speaker 2 (34:34):
It's a nice story when the South Africans come across.

Speaker 16 (34:36):
Well a yeah, yeah, yeah, that's right. Yeah, that's right. Yeah,
you heard bad stories about this was like early nineties,
so you know, but you know he's a nice guy
and yeah, you know, he reckons he had to get
out of the barbey or something he was living over
and buy some hubway in South Africa and he reckons

(34:57):
it was pretty bad, so he wanted to get out
of there.

Speaker 2 (35:00):
The van must the van must have really broken down
to spend four days hitching back.

Speaker 16 (35:05):
Oh yeah, that was to put it was gone as
was gone. It was not one of those old those
old American looking ones, yep looking ones here, one of those.

Speaker 2 (35:17):
Bet you, but I bet you wouldn't go hitchhiking again
after that, would you.

Speaker 14 (35:21):
No?

Speaker 16 (35:21):
No, I didn't know, to be honest, No, I didn't
know that was that was That was the worst hit
hiking experience we've overhead overhead.

Speaker 2 (35:28):
Yeah, marketplace for motown mowing? Is that where people get
hold of you?

Speaker 16 (35:32):
That's who people get hold of me?

Speaker 2 (35:33):
Yep, yep, you guys got has it got your wally
phone number? There? They just caught your day and night
you're there for them.

Speaker 16 (35:39):
Yeah, twenty four hours a day.

Speaker 2 (35:41):
What about what about Botany outpeckeringer that way? You head
that way? I just pretty much keep it south.

Speaker 12 (35:45):
Ye.

Speaker 16 (35:46):
No, no, not botany area. Think a ring up. I
go as far as trying not to go any further.
I think green lane.

Speaker 10 (35:52):
You know.

Speaker 2 (35:52):
Oh, that's a good that makes sense to me. That's
a good kind of d cage Tony, good luck with
that motown mowing people, margs. My pop was on a
rabbit shoot on a hill, blow a guy, and my
popper stood up as the guy above him shot his
rifle and the bottle split my poppers here on his head. Marcus,
I've had four clear instances of my life where to simplified,
if I turned left instead of right, I would have

(36:14):
been killed. Was this luck or something else? I often
think it? Michael, it's Marcus. Good evening and welcome.

Speaker 11 (36:20):
Hey.

Speaker 17 (36:21):
I'm going to talk about luck. And you know there's
all sorts of luck. You know, it'll comes some different
shapes of form, and this luck here sort of stretches
over twenty thousand kilometers.

Speaker 2 (36:34):
Okay, yeah, okay, So look I have.

Speaker 17 (36:38):
A sister that lives in Ireland, she's lived there for years.
And she was at a Christmas party with her husband,
and Caroline was just talking to a young couple and
about you know, they's about things to do when they
come over here. They've come over for a honeymoon and anyway,

(36:59):
she just said that the last thing she said them
all by the way, she said, look, if you see
a tour coach and you're looking to see this and
you sort of thinking, oh, my goodness, man, it's a
familiar faith can't say hello to Me's my brother Michael. Okay,
fast forward a couple of weeks and I was doing
a job. I was doing an awful at the time,
and I was doing aircrew work and I was coming

(37:21):
back and finished up and get a call from the
my it's on Mike. He couldn't just do us A
favorite said, you go to the airport and just do
a cover a dinner break for the the transfer driver
on the car paper. And I think, yeah, I can
do that. So I go there, frop off and jump

(37:41):
in the van. Drive to the tunnel, you know, through
the Awkland Airport from rivals and departures anyway, go through there,
see sort of two people standing sort of by the
post and stop and open the doorlays and they said, oh,
can we want to go to the Iris Hotel? I
said I can do that. They're jump inside and we
go and I go, oh, you got that irish emptying

(38:03):
about it. Oh yeah, yeah, we're from southern Ireland. I said, oh,
I said this, and I thought she's a dentist. And
the skull goes a dentist, and then she goes where
about So I said Carlo, and she goes Carlo, and
I go, yes, and Carlo. And then she said, your

(38:24):
sister's not called Carol, and I well kill me but more.
And then she told him her husband's name and Chordren's day,
and I went, yes, Now, how about that for luck?
That basically all.

Speaker 6 (38:39):
The way over here?

Speaker 2 (38:40):
Okay, okay, okay, okay, Michael, Michael, there's a couple of
things I don't say about that story, right. I wasn't
surprised by the ending, right because I knew what was
going because because I think I think I knew what
was going to happen. Did someone say that that hang on, Michael?
Did someone say at the end of a small world,

(39:02):
wouldn't want to painted or something like that?

Speaker 18 (39:05):
No, did you take the crying.

Speaker 2 (39:10):
Oh well, the Irish bless them. Really, I just cannot
believe that.

Speaker 17 (39:17):
We just we just saw your sister not more than
ten days ago, and you know, she's telling us something
to do. And the last thing she said to us
was did you say my brother.

Speaker 2 (39:28):
Just say hello to them? Amazing that I just had
to pick them up and drop him up the hotel.
Woll shows you should say yes to any job your
boss asks you too, because otherwise you wouldn't have met them.
Did you spend more time with did you spend more
time with them? Michael?

Speaker 17 (39:46):
I just stopped off the hotel and then they were
just getting a rental car off. And look we didn't
we just keep in contact while they were in New Zealand.
And yeah, so anyway, so not about three days later
on I got a phone call from my sister Cara,
been talking to you.

Speaker 2 (40:04):
Brilliant great thing to say, Michael, shame about your phone
sort that out next time. Wow, but lovely hearing from
you other Mike welcome.

Speaker 19 (40:14):
Yeah, high Marcus.

Speaker 11 (40:15):
Yeah.

Speaker 19 (40:16):
I don't know if you call us luck or what,
but it was back in the late fifties. My grandfather
had had a you know, had a boat that he'd
take out into the Haracky Golf. And it was back
in the days where the fisheries back in the on
the wharfs used to take barges out into the gulf

(40:41):
each day with all the fishing waste.

Speaker 2 (40:44):
Yeah sure, I understand, yep, yeah, and.

Speaker 19 (40:47):
They dump it. And it was a huge feeding frenzy
and a massive feeding ground. So if you went out
there fishing, you know, it was inevitably you'd catch something.
And there were boats out there, and my grandfather was
in his boat, it might have been fifteen foot twenty foot,

(41:08):
and all of a sudden his boat lurched and he
got dragged around the anchorage and it's for a while,
and other boats witnessed this, and it finally stopped, and
whether it was fifteen foot or twenty foot, a large

(41:29):
white point of shark raised itself up next to the boat,
and it had swallowed the anchor and perhaps ten feet
of chain and they had to cut the rope and
let go of the let go of the shark. And
it was actually reported in the newspaper at the time,

(41:51):
somewhere in the fifties or sixties, but apparently some specialists
said that if the shark had have swallowed the anchor
and dragged around that the acid in the shark's stomach
would eventually dissolve the anchor. So yeah, I thought there
was a.

Speaker 2 (42:08):
Yeah, lucky they had a knife.

Speaker 19 (42:12):
Well that's right in the year. But you're always going
to have a knife on a bone, aren't you.

Speaker 2 (42:16):
You don't always have one. So they were lowering the
anchor and the shark tocket. Is that what happened?

Speaker 19 (42:21):
Yeah, Well, it was all the waist, all the fishing waist,
the guts and all the rest of it that they dropped.
It was a huge fishing ground. I'm not sure when
they stopped doing that.

Speaker 2 (42:31):
But did they know straight away it was a shark
or did they see it?

Speaker 19 (42:35):
Well, they got dragged around, the boat got dragged around
for ages. No, it wasn't until it stopped in the
shark raced itself. It was longer than the boat. That Yeah,
they realized what had happened.

Speaker 2 (42:51):
Sharks would be gathering around that too, wouldn't they That.

Speaker 19 (42:54):
They stopped absolutely absolutely, but yeah, no.

Speaker 2 (43:01):
None of it have Mike, have you gone looking for
the article.

Speaker 3 (43:06):
We had it?

Speaker 19 (43:07):
I'm not sure I had had a clipping of it.

Speaker 2 (43:10):
Yeah, what was a what was a headline? Don't I'm
quite curious to hear about that.

Speaker 19 (43:15):
Yeah, I'm not sure, but I mean obviously newspapers keep
all these things, so.

Speaker 2 (43:20):
Yes, they'd be there somewhere.

Speaker 3 (43:22):
Could.

Speaker 2 (43:22):
I think there's been many shark at texts in the
White Matar Harbor. I think there's only been months of
the west coast of the Monaco, so I am interested
in that.

Speaker 19 (43:31):
Yeah, but no, just just quickly another story, the same grandfather.
He had a factory and he got out on the
roof for a peers one time and he stood up
into the power lines with it, hit the power line
with his head, shut down the electricity the whole building.
But apparently because he was wearing rubber gum boots, he

(43:53):
didn't get electrified, but he managed to shut down the
power to the whole building.

Speaker 2 (44:00):
Kind Of a daft thing to do, though, wasn't it
to be in the line of fire like that?

Speaker 8 (44:05):
Well?

Speaker 19 (44:05):
Yeah, but very lucky. Yeah, no, rubber gumboots, you're insulated
the whole thing.

Speaker 2 (44:10):
Makes sense. Nice to hear from your good stories. Keep
it going. This is a good text. This text like
a it's like a movie called The Hangover or something
went out to a cousin's stag night ended up going

(44:31):
for two nights, and I knew I was in trouble
with the missus when I got back home. Anyway before
the night or morning ended with Cassino about six in
the morning, drinking, put twenty bucks in the machine, won
sixteen grand. Missus wasn't mad after that for too long.
Saved our relationship. Greatest night two nights, Well, I thought,

(44:55):
probably if you're in that stage on a two day
bend within you won sixteen grand, you'd keep going, wouldn't you.
You're lucky you decided to call to say when Marcus
my part. My pa was a tail gunner in World
War Two. A bullet lodged into a penny kept in
his hip pocket. I still have the penny. Yeah, a

(45:23):
lot of stories like that, Yes, goodness, the old horrible things,
those rare, those rare places. Just look at those. I
think that was quite a good representation of that. Was
meanphis spell with the guy in the back or cooped
up in that terribly vulnerable place to be in a
war on a plane. What about the shark, would you?

Speaker 11 (45:41):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (45:41):
What about the anchor chain? I've never seen a shark
with a, I guess yeah, with an anchor inside of it,
when would you? I was asking the question if there
are people that are lucky that win a lot of things,
but actually it's come through with people incidents of luck,

(46:02):
and I'm enjoined this a great deal, like to theme
a Whenday night. Is it Wednesday? Feels like Friday? Is
it Wednesday? I'd hope so eight hundred eighty text Simon, Hello.

Speaker 18 (46:19):
Yeah, hi Marcus. Yeah, I just heard that guy talking
about the overhead wire and his I think it was
his father that hit his head on it and he
didn't get electrocuted. So I had a similar experience. I
was dismantling a farm shed and taking off the roofing

(46:40):
iron and there was this overhead wire and I asked
the farm hand, I said, is that like whire alive?
And he said no, no, no, it's disconnected. Anyway, so
I was removing the sheets and lifting the wire up
and to get underneath it and things like that, and anyway,

(47:00):
one of the sheets hit the wire and there was
this huge spark and a whole area of the cheek
was just burned out. I realized it was live.

Speaker 2 (47:14):
And you were not affected because no, I had rubber
boots on.

Speaker 3 (47:20):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (47:21):
I don't know about that though.

Speaker 18 (47:23):
Yeah, I couldn't believe it. So after that I didn't
touch it.

Speaker 2 (47:28):
After that, well what a stupid farm hand.

Speaker 18 (47:31):
Yeah, I don't know. And then I said to him,
this is live and he kind of didn't really care.

Speaker 2 (47:41):
Well you are you just offered it for a minute.
What were the circumstances with you being there?

Speaker 14 (47:47):
Oh?

Speaker 18 (47:47):
So it was a I worked on the farm. It
was in Australia.

Speaker 2 (47:51):
Oh okay, here's the other farmhand.

Speaker 18 (47:52):
Okay, yeah I was, And so I was doing it
as a kind of holiday job from school, and so
they needed people to dismantle this shed. So me and
a friend from school we got the job to do it,
and so we were doing that.

Speaker 2 (48:12):
Yeah, it could. It ended quite badly, I know.

Speaker 18 (48:16):
And there was another farm I knew another way. He
was doing something similar. I don't know whether he was
dismantling his shed, but he was working on another There
were chicken farms and he was in the same situation.
He got killed.

Speaker 2 (48:34):
Oh wow, Yeah, you know, I never miss around with
that lot, trustee. Very weary of that.

Speaker 18 (48:40):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (48:40):
Yeah, does that.

Speaker 2 (48:42):
Make you lucky or unlucky?

Speaker 18 (48:46):
I think lucky. You wouldn't it be.

Speaker 2 (48:48):
No or unlucky to be doing that. That's the thing.
That's why I'm curious about the discussion, Like the guy's
stare do they're getting all the money the casino afterwards? Hello, Jim,
AT's Marcus Welcome, Good evening, Jim.

Speaker 20 (49:05):
Hi, it didn't This didn't happen to me. That happened
to a ship made of mine on the voyage before
I joined the ship. It happened. I think it was
the beginning of ninety forty six the Pamier sailing ship.

(49:27):
She was entering Senatorm San Francisco Harbor and one of
the seamen, George Gunn, apparently he fell off one of
the yard arms into the sea. The ship was sailing

(49:49):
very slowly and he managed to climb onto the rudder.
So some of them, this was nighttime. Some of the
crew heard him calling out, so the chief Officerville Galloway, went.

(50:12):
They loaded him down on a rope to collect George Gunn.
He was sitting on the rudder and the crew pulled
both of them up. Yeah, so he was pretty lucky,
held off for one of the yard arms on a
sailing ship.

Speaker 2 (50:33):
So for those that don't know that really is a
sailing ship. That's a huge mess of full master, Is
that right?

Speaker 20 (50:38):
Yep, that's the one. She was a war she was
a war prize. Did you it was a Jewish right? Yeah?
She was building Robin Buss who built the bus bag.
She was building Hamburg in nineteen hundred and five.

Speaker 11 (51:01):
Yeah.

Speaker 20 (51:01):
I sailed on the next voyage and we went to Thenvancouver.
But that incident happened going into San Francisco.

Speaker 2 (51:12):
An extraordinary what an extraordinary Had you had experience with
a sailing ship before you crewed on her?

Speaker 20 (51:19):
No, that was my first trip to see.

Speaker 2 (51:22):
Did they put up the mask?

Speaker 20 (51:23):
An American American tole marine?

Speaker 2 (51:25):
Did they put up the mask?

Speaker 11 (51:27):
Yeah?

Speaker 20 (51:28):
Right up to the royals?

Speaker 3 (51:31):
Wow?

Speaker 2 (51:32):
And can you tell me about who Demise?

Speaker 20 (51:36):
Well, she was lost than the Hurricane in nineteen fifty
seven and the Atlantic.

Speaker 2 (51:42):
Just six survivors.

Speaker 20 (51:45):
Yeah, yeah, but she was under the German flag. Who
he was a training ship. We were carrying cargo and
a number point George Gunn who I mentioned was on
the rudder. He later on finister have a mask of

(52:06):
mate and Bill go Away the chief officer. He was
Wellington Harbor, mass Later.

Speaker 2 (52:16):
How many, Chim, how many would the crew be on
the premiere?

Speaker 20 (52:21):
I think it was about thirty five im the last one.
I'm still alive on the voyage that I sail wrong.

Speaker 2 (52:31):
It's extraordinary looking at the number of sales that's got
of full flight. Looks like it's got five sixt seven eight,
nineteen eleven, twelve nine t twenty one. Looks like, IM say,
about thirty five sales on it all up with everything?

Speaker 20 (52:43):
Yeah, yeah, that was around right here. Anyone just to
run mention. I don't normally ring.

Speaker 2 (52:51):
No, Well you should ring Jim, because it's extremely interesting.
I had no idea and they just comfort Where did
they confiscate it off the Germans? Do they capture it
at sea?

Speaker 11 (52:59):
No?

Speaker 20 (52:59):
No, no, no, she was taken after SIMS. She was
finished cargo ship when she arrived in New Zealand. I
think it was nineteen forty two. She arrived at New
Plymouth with a cargo of guama I think it was,

(53:22):
and she was seized as a war prize and handed
back in nineteen fourteen nine.

Speaker 16 (53:33):
So was it crued?

Speaker 2 (53:35):
But when they confiscated in New Zealand, was it then
crewed entirely by a New Zealand Crew.

Speaker 20 (53:44):
Yes years when it was taken and I was run
by the Union Steamship Company as agents for the government
New Zealand government.

Speaker 2 (53:56):
Did we have all the skills and that sort of
big sailing sea.

Speaker 21 (53:59):
Yes, years.

Speaker 20 (54:04):
Some of them had already sailed on the sale before
and some of the films were loud to sail them too.

Speaker 3 (54:15):
Wow.

Speaker 2 (54:16):
Well that's a very I'll read what Jimmy, are you
in your nineties?

Speaker 21 (54:20):
Yeah?

Speaker 20 (54:21):
Ninety four?

Speaker 2 (54:22):
Going good?

Speaker 20 (54:24):
Oh so so you know.

Speaker 2 (54:28):
When your when's your birth when's your birthday? Guy Fawkes brilliant? Okay, Wow,
like you, Jim, No nonsense. I'll tell you something about
that last guy, Jim. I had wikipedie rapro on the Palmere.
For a guy that was ninety five. Every single fact
that he had on it was absolutely perfect. His dates

(54:50):
were spot on. The only thing I didn't mention was
the name of the hurricane and the exhult of the als.
It was Hurricane Kerry, but he would have known that.
Julian Marcus welcome.

Speaker 7 (55:03):
Okay, I guess it's funny with lucking it if I
could just tell you a story what happened to me yesterday,
which includes luck and being unlucky. I was driving to Clyde.
I got just before the Limb Pass and my car overheated,
which you could say was unlucky. But luckily ten meters
behind me was a rest area that had a little

(55:24):
creek running through it, so that was lucky. Luckily, in
the back of my car I had quite a large
killer bag, so I walked down to the creek, filled
the chiller bag up with water, managed to let the
car call down, filled it up with the water, carried
on with my journey from maybe another twenty minutes, and
the car overheated again, so obviously there is something majorly wrong.

(55:49):
Phoned the AA up. They came. We had a long discussion.
They decided that they didn't have a because I was
taking a trailer, they didn't have a big enough transporter
to do the job. So they suggested that they were
organized to get me to Twyzel, which they did. Arrived

(56:10):
in Twysaul trying to organize to get back to christ Church.
They then decide that because I've been a member for
forty years this year I've had a bit of bad
luck with cars and have used up my allocation of towing.
So they said it was now going to cost me

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two thousand dollars to get the car and the trailer
back to chrost Church. Unlucky. I argue the point with
them and said, well, yesterday when I was stuck on
the lindas you were, it was your choice to bring
me back to Twyzel, not mine. I wanted to go
back to christ Church. But you couldn't supply a big
enough truck. After about an hour's conversation with two of

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the ladies and the supervisor, basically they it was my problem.
I had to pay the two thousand dollars. I decided
that the old jeep that I've got that had blown
ahead gasket was not going to be worth bringing back
to christ to get repaired. So I left it with
the tow truck company in twys All and they're going

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to sort out a scrap price for it. Unlucky. That
meant I had to get back to christ this morning.
I booked a seat on the inter city managed to
get a seat lucky. Unfortunately, I had taken my wee
puppy with me too, twice all they don't take dogs.

Speaker 16 (57:36):
Unlucky.

Speaker 7 (57:37):
Then I decided, well, I still got that big bag
of that big chili bag in the back of the car.
So I decided right, I went to the bus stop,
put the wheep up in the chiller bag, zipped it up,
walked on the bus. Nobody said anything. Wilhelmine as a
very chilled out dog. She was very quite all the

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way back.

Speaker 3 (57:59):
Lucky.

Speaker 7 (58:00):
After about ten minutes I took her out of the
chiller bag. Nobody complained, so luckily I got.

Speaker 2 (58:05):
Back to That was church all good, fantastic story, Julian,
Thank you for that. I've enjoyed that immensely, especially with
saying the dog was chilled out. Marcus. My mother and
I Marcus, my mother and I ran a pub in
the Wacator. A local man would come in for a bear,
as you do. We heard he was homeless, living under
a bridge. We gave him a room in return for
doing maintenance. Lawned said he got a job, a place

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to stay, and became a positive, happy person. Within a year,
he got lucky and won five million from lotto. Good story, Marcus.
After the Christi's earthquakeer I lost my job. We were
already striking financial and able to make the next mortgage payments.
Not a gambler, I bought a Wednesday Loto ticket. When
I checked a few days later, I'd won twenty K,

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but I had bought a Kenno ticket by a mistake.
Long story short, I decided it was a once in
a lifetime gift and started business instead of just using
the money. The business took off and within three years
was turning out a one point six minut. Haven't brought
a Kenot ticket since ge christ Church. I don't quite
know if they won the Keno or not, so you

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might need to explain that, Marcus. Back in ninety three,
a person whom I knew and Napier, survived a parachute
jump despite both huotes not opening. He landed in an
ah already pond near the airport, reshadowed on a scratch.
As falling to the ground, he apparently said to himself,
if I'm going to survive, I'm not going to break
my legs and deliberately lean back to land on the pack.

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He was on Oprah after that. Now that's lucky. Danny
wants to know how you got the trailer back. It's
a big day. I don't know what he's going to
Clyde for with a trailer sounds like sounds to be
like AA, be happy to be rid of him. Someone
still wants to know where the two dollars fifty pies
are in Napier. Julian is going back to twice all

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together as trailer on Thursday, which I presume is tomorrow
or next Thursday. He was going to Clyde to get
a yacht. Easy you do, because of course Clyde is
in left inland places there is in New Zealand, and
not is it inland, it's below the dam, so I'm
not quite sure what the yacht is doing in Clyde.
But I'm excited about all that story. Charlotte Marcus, welcome,

(01:00:21):
Oh thank you.

Speaker 12 (01:00:22):
You were asking people drawing in about good luck.

Speaker 3 (01:00:25):
Yeah.

Speaker 12 (01:00:27):
In nineteen seventy six, I had a friend who is
doing studying astrology and she said, oh, let me do
your chart, and she goes, you've got a financial triangle
and as a financial triangle, wow.

Speaker 2 (01:00:45):
To hear you, psycha, you've got a financial druggle. That
that's golden.

Speaker 12 (01:00:49):
No, you're just yes, you're just a friend. We were
both doing studying radio electronics B in the nineteen seventies.
Were trailblazers, really you were, And at the same time,
she was doing astrology and she did my chart and
she says, you've got a financial triangle. When I told
my family, they were going, oh, the is but then
they noticed that I never went broke.

Speaker 4 (01:01:10):
You know.

Speaker 12 (01:01:10):
Money always came to me when I needed it. And
talk about luck. I was that the one I very
really go to the casino. But I happened to be
passing by on my way back home to Kingsland. This
was about twenty odd years ago, and I thought, oh, Papa,
you know, twenty bucks, that's all I got, I might
as well spend it, and yeah, bang on the last

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four bucks, tan grand.

Speaker 3 (01:01:36):
And did you?

Speaker 12 (01:01:37):
To my father and to my dad and I said, dad,
I won ten thousand. You know, what would you advise
me to do? And he goes, well, my mother had
passed away the previous year, and he says, if I
was your mother, i'd tell you to bank pay all
you did.

Speaker 4 (01:01:54):
So I did.

Speaker 12 (01:01:55):
I was behind in some rates on a house I owned,
and I gave him some money to pay for a
headstone because I hadn't been caught up. I was with
some cousins. I sat in a couple of hundred each.
Was the friend and he Goes took the taxi driver
one hundred dollars. I thought, I'm putting you out of
the textive pears. I didn't even know the taxi driver.
I don't know how manything and he's getting you know,

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he's getting paid for his ride. But yeah, I am,
I'm you know, I don't know. I have just had
a sense of gratitude because things have been paved in
my life, including when I went nursing. I was always
able to you know, I first got him there was
a half inch advertisement from mental health. So I trained

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at Carrington, and then I went into general, then I
went into region, into forensics, and each time funding made
its way to me, so it was always free, including
the trip down to Sunnyside to do my forensic you know,
a certificate. I went to negotiate and the guy and

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the manager gave us all food costs, travel clasts, you know.
So yeah, that I put this all down to that
financial triangle.

Speaker 2 (01:03:11):
Do you think in some ways, Charlotte, that knowing that
you had a financial triangle just gave you a lot
more confidence to back your own decisions.

Speaker 6 (01:03:20):
No, because I had.

Speaker 12 (01:03:21):
Totally forgotten about it until I remembered when I talked
to her, I talked to my children, and I was saying, oh,
you know back in nineteen seventy six, is what happened.
They all be set laughing, and then we all sort
of like started seeing dollets. Throughout my whole life, including
being able to raise three kids, gave birth to none
of them. He under myself through my career. You know,

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a lot of good things happened to me, but I
cannomously say that I gave a lot of it back,
so I think that it was meant to be.

Speaker 2 (01:03:56):
Wow, there's a lot to unpick there.

Speaker 17 (01:04:01):
Yeah.

Speaker 12 (01:04:02):
Yeah, Well the last one, I'm trying to tip him
out of the nest. He's nineteen. He came to me
before he was four hours old. I was forty eight,
and then they came back to get him when he
was nine months. While it was all one. I mean,
you know, you fall in love with the ones that
you raise. You have to love them if you want
to get on with the job of two hourly feeding

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Ete Drea and get nasty, or you could become resigned
to just become loving. And now I'm trying to walk
him out of the nest. I can I enjoy my retirement.

Speaker 2 (01:04:36):
That'd be too tough on him, Charlotte. Let him go
when he's ready. Tom Marcus welcome.

Speaker 19 (01:04:43):
Oh hi Michaels.

Speaker 22 (01:04:44):
Tom here.

Speaker 2 (01:04:44):
Nice to hear Tom.

Speaker 22 (01:04:47):
Yeah, tell me about the luck saying this is like
in the late eighties. I used to work in the
bush for long periods of time down and Queenstown and
sort of Tiger area.

Speaker 2 (01:05:04):
Yep, we're gold mining.

Speaker 22 (01:05:06):
And so one time I came came finished my work
and I came into town because in Queenstown later in
the afternoon, and I went to get my bank card
out to go to put in the ATM and get
some money out. And I tried several times, and I

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forgot my pin number, and then the machine sawwed my
card up, and I said, here, I was in Queenstown
with no bank card and no money in my wallet either,
and I thought, damn, what am I going to do now?

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And I didn't know anyone. And then a few minutes
later I just looked at my wallet. I found these
old lot of tickets and I thought, well, long shot,
but I'll give.

Speaker 9 (01:06:00):
It a gay.

Speaker 22 (01:06:01):
So I took the lot of tickets to the to
the lot of shot, and I think I had that
I don't know, three or four old tickets and two
of the tickets one like the third and fourth division,
and I had so I had some like eighty or

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ninety dollars from that win. And that was this is like,
you know, more than thirty years ago. There was enough
for me to spend a night and get accommodation in
Queenstown and buy a meal and a bus ticket to
go elsewhere.

Speaker 3 (01:06:36):
So that was a lucky good.

Speaker 2 (01:06:38):
Still, what we're doing in the bush.

Speaker 22 (01:06:40):
I used to have for a defarent conservation, oh, just
doing field work and stuff. Yeah, so we used to
spend I just spent like three weeks in and one
week out sort of thing.

Speaker 2 (01:06:50):
Was it summer or winter.

Speaker 22 (01:06:53):
It was summer work.

Speaker 2 (01:06:55):
I could have gone up in one of those caves
and stayed there the night.

Speaker 3 (01:06:59):
Yeah.

Speaker 22 (01:06:59):
But you know, I mean since you know, I've bought
a lot of tickets and hard you win anything.

Speaker 2 (01:07:03):
No, that's amazing, especially so you think you checked them
straight away.

Speaker 22 (01:07:06):
Eight Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:07:08):
Yeah, so yeah, there was a struggle.

Speaker 2 (01:07:09):
Luck it's a good story, Tom, I like that. Thank you.
Fourteen past ten, keep it going, Marcus. My brother has
always been ten y. As a boy, he rode his
bike to school fees every year, came home with saddlebags
full of frozen chickens from quick fire raffles, coconuts from
the coconut showing other prizes, then rode back to win more.
He won several large cash prize in raffles and maybe

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gave him a dinghy with a slily. When he rode
home from fishing, a large number of fishy Court was
swimming around the foot of water in the boat. He
won ten thousand dollars on his first and only go
in the pokies. He rang today to say he was
on crutches while checking the oil on his yute. He
left the handbrake off the handbreak at rolled forty jump
stars at round of his leg. It's bruised but not broken.

(01:07:51):
The ute was stopped by a tree stump undamaged, Ruth.
Does that mean he's got some unluck? Marcus? Any update
on Harreton Milton would be appreciated. We've got rillerves on
the move heading north from Florida while we're in New Zealand.
While we here in New in And are traveling southeast
from Auckland to Hawks Bay for family bereavement. Imagine a

(01:08:14):
convoy of four car loads of seven aults and seventeens
with no internet. Blissful for the drivers because everyone to
sleep would ring. But we're not far from the gorge.
Thank you for hear drivers awake, alert and alive and
shout of the trucke is for lighting up the roads.
Thanks Mac. It's still twenty four hours away from touchdown. Marcus.
What is there to do? Midweekn and Vicago? We just

(01:08:36):
arrived in from Dunedin. I would say that would be
the big zero. I'll go put on the kettle for you.
That'd be about all like an offer. It's not a
town for the night it used to be. And knocked
it down anyway, Matthew Marcus, welcome.

Speaker 13 (01:08:52):
Gooday Marcus. I had three bits of good luck related
to a story when I am in two thousand and three,
I went to a talk given by my Fuller, who
was the founder of Habitat for Humanity, the house building charity,

(01:09:13):
who and I had a cup of coffee with him
afters so I went up and asked him how it
all started, and anyway we became friends, and he was
of course recruiting builders to volunteer to volunteer work for
Habitat and he said, look, did you come over next
year to our Jimmy Carter work project in Mexico.

Speaker 3 (01:09:35):
So I did.

Speaker 13 (01:09:36):
I took him up.

Speaker 3 (01:09:38):
On that night.

Speaker 13 (01:09:39):
I went with well on in two thousand and four
and on the way we went through, I went with
a group of people and we in the Whitecaddow Habitat
and we stayed in Las Vegas to have a tour
of the nearby Grand Canyon. But part of it, I
did a bit of black jet there and someone gave

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me ten us and I played with ten of my
own us. And when I it was two hundred dollars up,
I walked away from the table. Wow, just a little
bit of like. But then in Mexico, on on the
on the work project, they built a hundred homes on
this one week project, a hundred houses. And through through

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my Lad, I met.

Speaker 2 (01:10:27):
That let's just let's just stop the it's gonna be.
My next question, was Jimmy Carter the founder of Habitats
for Humanity or was he just involved with it?

Speaker 13 (01:10:36):
He was involved with that. My Lad and Linda Fuller
with a from They were from Georgia. They were the
people that started at the two but they started it
on a on a sort of cooperative farm actually, and
they used to build homes for the people on the farm,

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you know, on this large farm that came here, and
so they used to build and that's how they got
the idea and they said we'll roll this out. So yeah,
and so Jimmy and as Jimmy Carter and his wife
just I think just one they I didn't meet her.
I met President Carter, and they a year's work, a

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week's work every year, they make a comment. They do
that until a few years ago, and so they would
physically work building work on the homes for a week
and also a lot of promotional work for the charity.
But interestingly, Habitat Humanity are the biggest house building organization
in the USA and the world. They've finished one house

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somewhere around the world every twelve and a half minutes whatever.
I think it's eleven hundred a day or something like
that or amazing. Are you.

Speaker 2 (01:11:51):
Are you involved with them in New Zealand still.

Speaker 13 (01:11:53):
Metew Not right now, but we've just moved from a
both plant in Auckland, so I'm going to reconnect and
get that convolved. But I did work for them on
projects in the White Cato as a volunteer as a
four one. Okay, so yeah, they used to have projects
like the Woman's Build, and they build a house at
the Paracuge Festival every year.

Speaker 2 (01:12:15):
At the what festival.

Speaker 13 (01:12:18):
Used to be called the Diishreet. I think it's changed
its name now. But what may you see? You have
an hour, so young people at the festival they'd work
on the house for an hour and then you change
rats every hour for just six hours a day or
what is that? And so they'd come in and then

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nail it up and going through some painting, and right
at the end of the festival that their relocatable house.

Speaker 2 (01:12:44):
Someone Well, it's certainly got good branding and longevity. And
I know what habitat for you. I mean, it's something
that seems to have It seems to have a formula
that's going to last, doesn't it. Yeah, it's sustainable, which
is great.

Speaker 13 (01:12:57):
Yeah, that's a good model. It's two things they do
is they build low cost, super cheap and they have
a funding pathway, so they have a pool of money.
They supply mortgages and the red payments go back into
the fund, so that it's basically a form of recycling money.

Speaker 2 (01:13:13):
It's trades. People are involved with the construction, aren't they.
It's not Shonky is right.

Speaker 13 (01:13:19):
Yeah, it's all managed managed. They've had some issues in
the past, but I don't.

Speaker 2 (01:13:25):
Think I don't think that what the parachute house made
by party is.

Speaker 13 (01:13:32):
Yeah, that's true.

Speaker 3 (01:13:33):
Yeah.

Speaker 13 (01:13:33):
So so that was really good and I made the lifelong,
really good contacts in Washington out of that through through
charitable work, you know, those types of people that get involved.

Speaker 2 (01:13:43):
And Carda was it was Roslin's his wife's name, by
the way.

Speaker 3 (01:13:46):
But he was good.

Speaker 2 (01:13:47):
He was good value.

Speaker 13 (01:13:50):
I didn't meet Roslin, but yeah, he was good. Yeah,
he was into it. He was into into the work,
the idea of it.

Speaker 2 (01:13:59):
Because you know, he turned you know, he turned a
hundred this week, don't you.

Speaker 13 (01:14:03):
Yeah, I've been I've seen that.

Speaker 2 (01:14:05):
Yeah, I think it looks it looks quite. It looked
like his age a lot in the last couple of years.
But still, you know, I just thought, because he's been
around and doing it for so Matthew, so nice to talk.
Thank you very much. I've enjoyed that story much. We
are talking luck and some great stories that have come
through long way. They continue, by the way, actually because

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I kind of said start off tonight saying is it such?
Is this such a thing as lucky people? And there's
been some pretty interesting responses to that. And maybe if
you decide you're lucky, then you've become lucky. Is that
what the way it works? Get in touch, Dave Marcus. Welcome,
good Marcus, Hey, gon good things Dave. There you going

(01:14:47):
all right?

Speaker 11 (01:14:48):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (01:14:48):
Good good?

Speaker 8 (01:14:51):
Quite an interesting one. When I was in London. I
was I was a backpacker, a plumber, and I worked
on a construction site and they were giving away a
brand new Mini.

Speaker 2 (01:15:04):
Would you believe Who's who's the the people you work for, the.

Speaker 8 (01:15:09):
People that were running the construction site. Obviously I was
a subby at Yeah. Yeah, they just give away one.
They gave away four of them and the first one
was one was drawn out in a raffle and that
guy wasn't there, so they changed the rules for the

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next one. You had to be there to win it,
and I went We had been working on this job
and were was a Pigstreet year High Street, Kensington. Yes,
and I went away to Brazil for two months. I
had a great holiday, of course, escaped the London winter.

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And then when I came back. They did the draw
the week that I came back and I won it.

Speaker 3 (01:16:01):
Wow.

Speaker 8 (01:16:03):
Yeah, So I thought that was pretty lucky.

Speaker 3 (01:16:05):
Wow.

Speaker 2 (01:16:05):
And would they would they just give away things like
that to encourage staff to work for them? Is that like,
is that what that was all about?

Speaker 8 (01:16:14):
I honestly have still never really worked it out. You
had like you had a safety card, right, and you
got five stamps on your safety card, and then you
went and put your five pound in and you bought
the ticket for it. So there was like, I don't know,
there was a probably I think there was only like
one hundred and eighty or like two hundred tickets for

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this mini wow, and there were people that had syndicates going,
you know, they had this and that, And some guy
walked up to me and said, oh, how many tickets
did you have? And I was like, I just had
the one.

Speaker 2 (01:16:50):
To sell the card.

Speaker 8 (01:16:52):
I actually sold it back to the people who supplied
it for the competition straight off the bat, right, because
you know England and England you had to have insurance
to go for a drive around the block and all
that sort of carry on. So yeah, I reversed at
about two meters and got a photo with it and
then sold it back to them. And then it was
early two thousands, so the exchange rate was quite good.

Speaker 2 (01:17:16):
Did you go back to Brazil?

Speaker 8 (01:17:19):
Nah, I went to I sent most of it home
and put it into savings, but then I spent the
other but going to Amsterdam. They had their Queen's Day
celebrations on yeah, which was really cool except it was
interesting enough though. I ran into guys that were in

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a replica endeavor, a load of kiwis, But yeah, I didn't.
I didn't hang out with them all day because that
was a bit boring. Then yeah, hung out with the
Hell's Angels that there.

Speaker 19 (01:17:55):
Cafe over there.

Speaker 3 (01:17:56):
I don't know.

Speaker 8 (01:17:57):
Amsterdam's a pretty interesting place.

Speaker 2 (01:18:00):
Have you have you won other stuff?

Speaker 3 (01:18:01):
Dave? I have?

Speaker 8 (01:18:07):
I can't remember. Uh nah, not really, only like you know,
like occasional winds on tab and stuff like that.

Speaker 2 (01:18:17):
Wins. Yeah, okay, I stay, yeah, ok I haven't thought
about that. Yeah, okay, there was.

Speaker 8 (01:18:23):
Another interesting one from London. I hope it's okay. But
one time I got on the bus and you know,
the old doors opened.

Speaker 3 (01:18:31):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:18:31):
I like the sound of it, like a door, like
a bus yep.

Speaker 11 (01:18:34):
Yeah, And then right in.

Speaker 8 (01:18:35):
The corner of that door. There was a little a
little tablet sitting there.

Speaker 19 (01:18:41):
Wow, And you took it and I took it, and
it was it was It was a great bit of ecstasy.

Speaker 8 (01:18:46):
Yeah, I thought that was quite lucky.

Speaker 2 (01:18:47):
Sheep creepers. Yeah, I see what you mean about that story. Okay,
is that luck? I suppose it's luck.

Speaker 8 (01:18:53):
I mean it was obviously it probably had potential to
be unlucky. Isn't the same time?

Speaker 2 (01:18:59):
Where was the bus trip too? Did you get off
it quite soon afterwards?

Speaker 8 (01:19:03):
The bus was, Yeah, it was just it was just
a local one that I got on at Hammersmith. Goodness story,
But then the interesting part was right. I caught up
with my mate later in the night and then I
told him about that story, and he said, what picture

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did it have on it? So I told him the
little picture that was on it. Can't remember what the
picture was. And then he told me that was my pill.
He said when he got on the bus, he went
to pull his coins out of his pocket and he
watched it go tink down the steps and pick itself
on that corner of the bus.

Speaker 2 (01:19:45):
But yeah, I know that seems too far fetched to me. David,
Thank you for that Marcus. Still, how you're going through?
I've got the best text I've ever received and talked back.
This is what the text is. No need for kettle.
Thanks for the offer, oh, I said, it's about me
asking him to come around. Yeah, Marcus, don't have much luck,

(01:20:09):
but one year I won free milk by one one
year's free milk from Peck and Save. We are talking
luck and whether there's such a thing as lucky person
or lucky people. What I think, probably from what I've
heard tonight, is just some people think they're lucky, which
I quite like. What a great thing to go through
your life is thinking that you are lucky, because I'm

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sure if you think you're lucky, you'll find things to
be positive about. Arm So I say, so, what was
the topic that was going to be planned? B Very
good question. Keep it going, guys, get your calls coming through.
I'm sure more become available. Woo oh wait eighty ten
eighty nine two nine to detext Ken, it's Marcus. Welcome.

Speaker 11 (01:20:55):
How are you pal?

Speaker 14 (01:20:56):
Good?

Speaker 2 (01:20:57):
Thank you, Ken, Thank you for calling me Pale. I
like that nice good stuff.

Speaker 11 (01:21:01):
Yeah, I'm ringing with regard to lack.

Speaker 2 (01:21:08):
Yep, you've rung the right show.

Speaker 11 (01:21:11):
I a million years ago used to be a sales
rep in the fine china and jewelry and all that
sort of thing, back in the late seventies early eighties.

Speaker 2 (01:21:24):
Okay copy.

Speaker 11 (01:21:28):
And I had a client, and I had the name
right up until the town right up until now I've forgotten,
but it's where those young kids went off into a
river halfway between on the way to Picton. Yes, I
forget the name of the town.

Speaker 2 (01:21:49):
Does it led them?

Speaker 11 (01:21:49):
And I had a client there who used to be
a big pottery buyer and then at that time leaved
the wear and hand crafted pottery with the inn thing.

Speaker 3 (01:22:02):
Okay copy, yep.

Speaker 11 (01:22:05):
Now this guy went to Australia for a holiday and
he bought a ticket in a car, and he bought
a ticket in a house. Now I used to go
back and forth to Brisbane or Weabard, and I was
familiar with getting raffles and houses. Well, he got a

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ticket in both. Now he came back to New Zealand
and my next trip back, which was about three or
four weeks a month with a renu tudor rebellion that
he won well on that trip And the next time
I called up there about a month later he was

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showing me photographs of a house. Did he run in
Brisbane in the same trip? Can you beat that?

Speaker 2 (01:22:56):
I can't beat that. Did he stay Did he stay
in what he did? He keep doing what he's doing.
Did he go to the Gold Coast?

Speaker 11 (01:23:02):
No, he sold up the business and moved to the
Gold Coast.

Speaker 2 (01:23:06):
Hence it's where his LUCKI was a ken, it's where
his luck was happening. Nice to talk. Can keep it going, guys,
we're talking all about luck. Oh eight one hundred and
eighty twenty nine nine. The text Marcus, I'd say the
luckiest chapind Artie and I would have to be mister
luxon free trips, red carpets, banquets, you name it. All
he has to do is top dog is say what
I'd say to you is I haven't read it. I

(01:23:28):
am unaware of that, et cetera. With the luck of
never been challenged by the media. He's so lucky, doesn't
even have a single portfolio. He's so lucky. Nowhe has
nicknamed him charge Shltz of the I know nothing nothing
great Joe Marcus, m thank you, thank you. Um one

(01:23:51):
a trip got a trip with Nis into London chauffeur
to the hotel in city for four days. Intro to
Chelsea Reserve, players had three course mill plus drinks. Trick
it trick it costs three hund fifty pounds. Ticket costs
to fifty pounds no cost. Just put email and website back.
In twenty twelve, Marcus I won Z free petrol free year.

(01:24:15):
In October twenty twenty three, for downloading the z app,
I won free fuel valued at four nine fifty dollars total.
The prize comprised eight times five hundred ZED gift cards,
nine times one hundred ZED gift cards, one time it's
fifty dollars zed gift card. I use a lot in
three months on Z pies, drinks and gas. Great topic tonight,

(01:24:37):
Hamish Market's about four in the morning in Tampa, Florida,
val Reiko where my friend lives. He hasn't evacuated. Hurricane
Milton should be making lend fall soon. I was his
house in twenty twenty two. Furrican in I read today
they advising people to write their name and social Security

(01:24:59):
number on their leg. We all wish. I'm sure this
hurricane will spare any people. Roger's napier will win the
ground unders. When the sea is warmer, there's more energy,
they're more intense and they take up more moisture. I
think for every one degrees warmer. I don't know what
the numbers are, but it's quite it's quite confronting how

(01:25:21):
much bigger they and of course to everyone said this
was going to happen, they're going to become more intense
high bullets. Marcus. Welcome, Bill, good evening, Hello Marcus.

Speaker 21 (01:25:33):
Many years ago actually nineteen fifty seven. Wow, I graduated
off an air crew courses and needed signal signal and
got posted dobs and roll from Wigram to convert Onto
Sunderland flying boats.

Speaker 4 (01:25:48):
Wow.

Speaker 2 (01:25:50):
Well, and.

Speaker 21 (01:25:52):
We had a couple of pilots and a navigator and
the three signals on this particular course and anyway, on
in June we went out to the low flying your
north on the northern part of Mirror White Beach in
this big white flying boat and we're tearing along the

(01:26:14):
beach at fifty feet high. Can you imagine that?

Speaker 3 (01:26:18):
No? I can't.

Speaker 21 (01:26:19):
Yeah, the plane had one hundred and twelve foot wingspans,
so you can imagine how I'm pretty impressive and full
big Pratt and whitneys roaring away. Anyway, it was well
pretty exciting. I just turned nineteen when I've got my
wings and anyways, climbed into the front turret front gun turret,
and we're belting down the beach and all of a sudden,

(01:26:41):
there's a hell of a bang excuse my language, and
I got hitting the shoulder quite hard, and I looked down.
I thought, what on earth was that? And there was
blood all over his shoulder, and I I was a
bit stunned, and I heard one of the pilots say
something rather crude, you know, he used the rather crude word.

Speaker 12 (01:27:05):
What was that?

Speaker 21 (01:27:06):
We climbed away and we headed back to Hobsonville and
I was sitting there. My soulder was sore. And anyway,
I vacated the turret and I went up the steps.
There was a little set of steps that went up
from those compartment up came out between the two pilot seats.
And as I climbed up the steps, they looked at

(01:27:28):
me and there was blood or blood all over the shoulder,
and Instructor yelled out of me, what happened to you?
I said, some signs, so shot me. And then we
noticed that we're feathers sticking out of it. And what
had happened is we heard a black backed gull or
a black belt galla decided it couldn't get enough to eat,

(01:27:49):
so it committed suicide by flying smacking into the port
gun port on this on the turret. So when it
hit the gun port, you know the round hole way
the machine gun that would could be fit, they were
fitted and all this guts and feathers and stuff and

(01:28:10):
blood spured it through and belted me in the shoulder.

Speaker 2 (01:28:14):
Unbelievable, And.

Speaker 21 (01:28:18):
So I was reaped back to Artan were landed and
moored the aircraft up and they the grand crew guys
come out and I was just sort of standing around,
still a bit befuddled, and just the amount of blood
and stuff that was on my shoulder was quite remarkable
to me. And anyway, the guys were looking at the

(01:28:43):
technicians were looking at the front turret to see if
it was damaged, and it wasn't damaged or anything. It
was just just a bit of a mess. And one
of them came up to me and said he I
was only nineteen at the time. He to me was
a bit or and he's thirty is pretty old. He said,
you know something, so you're dead lucky.

Speaker 3 (01:29:04):
You're not.

Speaker 21 (01:29:04):
I said, what do you mean, I'm dead lucky? He said,
if you'd been if that bird that hit the front
glass panel, you know between the gun ports, you would
you would have had a face full of broken glass,
even though it's armor glass. These black backed gull is

(01:29:28):
a pretty big, heavy bird. That would have gone straight
through it and you would have hit you in the
face and bloody hell. But anyway, we're in the shore
and this was in the morning. Instructor said said to me, oh,
you better go and get cleaned up and report back

(01:29:51):
after lunch. I thought, well, the shoulder was quite sore,
and you know, they were more concerned about the turret.
They didn't really nobody took any recognizance that maybe I
was a little bit upset. Anyway, I went near to
share and that and got changed and I had some lunch,

(01:30:12):
and then on the way back I called in it
the medical section to see the doctor. I thought I'd
be going to see the doctor. My sould was quite sure. Anyway,
I went in there and I said to the doctor.
Eventually got to see him and said what's up? And
I said, I got a shoulder and he said, well,

(01:30:32):
look in the big bruise on it. And he said
what caused that? And I said, I got a tack
by a black back goal and he looked at me
as if I was that lost my mind. I was, well,
how could that happen? I said, well, it was doing
a hard doing about one hundred and twenty knots at
the time and it smacked him through the gun. Put oh, okay,

(01:30:57):
And the end result was I took about I just
carried on normal duties, but it took about four or
five days from my shoulder to clear up. And as
for the flying suit, the instructor told me, oh, make
sure you wash your flying sit. I thought, well, well,
it's covered in blood and.

Speaker 9 (01:31:16):
Guts and stuff.

Speaker 21 (01:31:18):
So I gave it a good wash and I wore
it for another year before I could replace it. But
it always had the smell of especially is. When we
finished our conversion course onto the Sunderlands, we got posted

(01:31:39):
up to the Thaler Main, Fiji, where Fire squad was
operating the aircraft up there. The New Zealand Force had
a base at the Farler Bay, which was on the
eastern side of Silver Point, and of course that every
time I got hot and bothered in the tropics. That

(01:32:00):
that the old smell of dead bird came out on
this flying suit. And I wasn't very popular with the
other guys on the crew if we were sort of
cooped up in the galley or something. But it was
quite an experience.

Speaker 2 (01:32:17):
Can you tell me something. They just put you in
the front turret just because it was your first experience,
to show you what it was like to fly on
the plane. Is that why you're in the front turret.

Speaker 21 (01:32:28):
I was in the front. No, we'd already done quite
a few hours on the aircraft, and when we went
on the training or all every floor we did it
was a training flight of some kind or another, and
once the pilots got pretty confident and flying it, we

(01:32:50):
went off. The only non student on board with be
a flight engineer. But no, no, we were told to
just experience things ourselves.

Speaker 2 (01:33:05):
It must have been a story. Because you're well forward
of the cockpit, aren't you? About five meters forward of
the cockpit when you're in the turret?

Speaker 3 (01:33:12):
Is that right? Longer than that?

Speaker 21 (01:33:14):
Yeah, it's it's quite a bit, you know. The nose
of the aircraft stuck out, yes, and the turret was
right on at the end of the nose. It was
a two gun job and it was quite a cunning setup.
It had some locking bolts and after we landed you

(01:33:38):
don't do the locking bolts and you could wind the
turret back at three or four feet and then at
least the bear section was open and we had a
bollard thing we put up when we were mooring the
aircraft up.

Speaker 13 (01:33:51):
Oh.

Speaker 2 (01:33:51):
Okay, you're very fortunate to you spent how many flying
hours did.

Speaker 21 (01:33:57):
You get in the Sunderland sixteen hundred and.

Speaker 2 (01:34:01):
That's mainly between us In and Fijia up around the
Pacific as well.

Speaker 21 (01:34:05):
Up around the Pacific base that with Father Bay here,
we used to go to Sammarn, Tongra and Tarreller and
Veeler and that it was. I finished up with just
on twenty years air Crook experience in the Air Forces
did over nine thousand hours, but the first sixteen hundred

(01:34:26):
hours on the Sunderlands up in Fiji was the high
point of it.

Speaker 2 (01:34:29):
Actually, when you're in the Sunderlands bill how old were
they u craft or were they were they at the
end of the day they still start of the art
where they or were they being around.

Speaker 21 (01:34:39):
A bit that was nineteen fifty seven, and the Air
Force had got them about nineteen fifty three. Were World
War two vintage Mark three's had been convinded to Mark
converted to Mark fives from a for our Air Force.

(01:35:02):
We got sixteen of them all together.

Speaker 2 (01:35:04):
So you landed all the assels on the Pacific? Did
you a lot of the Yeah?

Speaker 10 (01:35:08):
Wow you?

Speaker 21 (01:35:10):
And oddly enough, guess what the tail number of that
particularly aircraft was that I was in at the time.
I don't know one three?

Speaker 2 (01:35:25):
Now, why is that funny?

Speaker 21 (01:35:27):
Oh well, thirty is supposed to be.

Speaker 2 (01:35:29):
I understand. I'm glad. Yeah, I'm glad you explained it.
Look I always loved talking flying boats. Well, and thank
you so much for coming through. Enjoyed that story much, Lee,
Steve Marcus, welcome, good evening here, get name Marcus.

Speaker 10 (01:35:44):
Talking about luck. I had to get another place to
live mid to late nineties sometime and looked around heaps
of places, took a while and found a wee flat
I liked, and the guys that I could rent it.
So I told him I'd like to buy it, and
he said, oh, well, I might sell it one day.
I we want seventy grand, So okay, So I told

(01:36:05):
him I'll get some money or my ex in five years.
So I rented it for seven years and well, and
then I got my money off my ex was coming.
It was only a month or so away, and I
told him again I wanted to buy the place. So
he said, okay, I won eighty thousand. I said, you're right.
So a few months later I got the money and

(01:36:27):
I said, right, I needed to buy it. So he
said I wanted ninety thousand, and so I bought it
off him with eight thousand deposit and he went the
bank for me, and so I've almost finished paying my
mortgage now. And he basically gave me the house, well
the flat, and if more people did that, we wouldn't
have a rental crisis. And he only had two rentals

(01:36:53):
and the other one he had was a house, and
I'm on the flat. But the other one he had
was a house, and he offered me that for ten
grand more. And he didn't have any access, very good
access and weather board, so it didn't like the area.
Turned him down, and he ended up getting a couple
from Westport and to rent it, and they rented it
for a year or so, and then they said they'd

(01:37:16):
like to buy it at the house, and so he
said okay, and he said, we'll just call your deposit
that your rent the deposit. So he basically gave them
the house. But then they had an arguments but separated
and lost the place, and that's when he decided that
he had sell the one on in there.

Speaker 11 (01:37:33):
It's a good story, so I was lucky for that.

Speaker 2 (01:37:37):
Still a nice house.

Speaker 10 (01:37:39):
It's a little flat and it's a beauty.

Speaker 3 (01:37:41):
I love it.

Speaker 2 (01:37:43):
You're lucky guy, Steve. Nice to hear from you, Paul Marcus.

Speaker 19 (01:37:46):
Welcome, Hello, How are you good?

Speaker 2 (01:37:49):
Paul?

Speaker 11 (01:37:50):
Good?

Speaker 6 (01:37:50):
Hey, listen, I just was listening to your The gentleman
was great interested about something flying boat. Yes, and I've
actually spoken to you before, Marcus. I think it was
a bit Bristol afraid of I'm the very media an
Uticle Society in christ Jurg and we've got a nose

(01:38:10):
section off a Sunderland flying boat which is under restoration.
It's actually well advanced, you know, the restoration of it.
And I found his story quite fascinating. Our ones. There's
a complete cockpit where the pilot and the pilots have
navigator sit with the gun, turret and everything in it,

(01:38:33):
you know, And I just thought, yeah, poor bugger. It
was extremely lucky really to survive what happened to him.
And I have no idea where in the country that
he is, but yeah, he would even like to to
to visit us and they have a look at our Sunderland.

(01:38:54):
He would a sudden and no section. He would certainly
be most welcome.

Speaker 2 (01:38:59):
Yeah, what no section have you got? Poor and where
did you get it?

Speaker 6 (01:39:03):
The hour a craft?

Speaker 3 (01:39:05):
I look, I have.

Speaker 6 (01:39:06):
I'm pretty sure he said he was in four one
one three as I think was for one one two, okay,
although I'd.

Speaker 14 (01:39:14):
Have to check.

Speaker 6 (01:39:15):
I'd have to check that to be honest. And it
was our society was offered when they were cutting up
for Sunderland. It was going to be used the I
think it was a yacht club. We're going to use
it after they ended service, and they were going to

(01:39:35):
turn it into sort of a floating restaurant and things.
And eventually what happened was that never happened and it
was rustling away. So they got the as they asked
us if we would like part of it, so we said, well,
if they could save the nose section This is way
back in the nineteen seventies and the aircraft was cut

(01:39:57):
up in Auckland and as a training exercise, the Ringsa
flew to christ for us in the Hercules. Okay, and
that that's how we managed to get hold of that year.

Speaker 2 (01:40:10):
Yeah, because I don't believe there's any Sunderlands that still fly?

Speaker 3 (01:40:13):
Are there?

Speaker 2 (01:40:13):
Is that correct?

Speaker 6 (01:40:15):
There was one overseas many years ago, a guy and
it was actually Anix New Zealand, Sunderland, one of the
aircraft restorers Kermit Weeks headers in the United States. And
again I just I stand to be correct that I

(01:40:37):
understand the name of it was. It was called Excaliba
and it was actually an ex Orange in a of Sunderland.
I do not know whether it's still flying off hand,
but to my to my knowledge, there are none flying.
But there is of course that beautifully restored complete one
at Motat in Auckland.

Speaker 3 (01:40:58):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:40:58):
Yeah, I mean, and look, I I I don't know
what if I'm going to say what I should say.
It's a bit like trains, you know, when they get
trains out, they don't restore them, they make them static displays.

(01:41:20):
I just wish, I just wish some of these people
like Branson or Gates or the guy from Amazon or
some of these people with millions and millions and billions
of dollars had put some money to restore some of
those sunderlands. I just wish there were some that would
still fly, because you know, it's because I know that

(01:41:43):
you guys do all great things, but what goods are
Nose Cone?

Speaker 3 (01:41:45):
Really?

Speaker 2 (01:41:45):
I suppose people go there and re live it, but
she wouldn't be amazing if we just had. But I
guess then once you've got it, you've got to keep it.
I mean it would cost billions of dollars or millions
of dollars to run, wouldn't it You.

Speaker 10 (01:41:57):
Did, right?

Speaker 6 (01:41:58):
And that that there is your That's that's always the
big problem, you know, And uh is this huge amount
of money that costs to keep them flying. It is
one of those things it's been even if something can't
fly or it's some practical to do that for the cost,

(01:42:20):
if you can, if you can preserve them as beach,
you can. And that's what our guys do down here
and on a huge amount of people around the well,
when I say a huge amount of people with the
j aviation do dead around the country, but I was,
I was. I like to think that Gileman for ringing
in because it was really nice to hear that story.

Speaker 2 (01:42:39):
Yes, he said it quite young to I was trying
to put the because he must have been born in
nineteen seventy, nineteen thirty five or something, because it was
the eighteen and fifty six. I can't remember, but it
must have been. You know, those stories are going. But
I just anything to do with the flying boats, I
just love. I just wish we still had them. I
just wish we could still see them occasionally happening, but
obviously it's impractical because the price to the crew. You

(01:43:01):
need pilots that were certified. Although they're right.

Speaker 6 (01:43:07):
It's interesting. You know, at Motet they've got the Sunderland
and the commercial version of the Solent flying boat, which
was the Airliner, you know, and there is the only
place in the world where you can see Sundals the
sole them together. So you know that's that. I think

(01:43:30):
we're as you say, when you look at the huge
costs involved with flying those things, it's quite an achievement actually.

Speaker 2 (01:43:37):
So yeah, and things going right at Faery Meat all good.

Speaker 6 (01:43:42):
Yeah, Yeah, we're we're we're getting on quite well there
and actually must be serious helicopters. So we get we're
going out very well. We're just restoring there a huge
three hundred all done, a largely completed, a hill of twelve,
and we're just finishing off painting robertson ARE twenty two.

(01:44:07):
But we've got in Mosquitos going extremely well, the guys
doing a great job on that.

Speaker 2 (01:44:13):
But when you say with helicopters, restoring them, you're just
bringing them up to so they'll go and ship, So
they won't. They've engines that go or not.

Speaker 20 (01:44:20):
Really, no, they the engines.

Speaker 6 (01:44:23):
Are all complete. We're making them. We're taking all the stuff.

Speaker 14 (01:44:27):
That we've got.

Speaker 6 (01:44:28):
We put absolutely everything in them that we can, and
we make them as as absolutely complete as we possibly can.
For instance, the ARE twenty two in the huller, all
the mechanisms work, all the rotor controls, everything's hopped up
and it all works. And yeah, I mean with a

(01:44:51):
view that there's some sometime in the future, long after
I'm gone on the guy that I do the restoration
and all the other guys working on the other projects,
if someone wants to spend you know, squillions of dollars
long after week on trying to put those things into
the ear then everything.

Speaker 2 (01:45:09):
Will be well, okay, that's and do you think that's likely?

Speaker 6 (01:45:14):
I I wouldn't like to predict the future, but it's
it's not possible.

Speaker 3 (01:45:22):
But it's h.

Speaker 2 (01:45:25):
Is it much demand internationally for restoration of helicopters.

Speaker 6 (01:45:29):
Sorry, well, it's one of those things that are very
difficult to restore.

Speaker 14 (01:45:35):
We've had a guy.

Speaker 6 (01:45:38):
That's donated the whole of twelve but damn a tower
mood because.

Speaker 8 (01:45:45):
I kind to mention this day.

Speaker 6 (01:45:46):
Yeah sure, yeah, Wayne Vndalin help poper Management and he's
donated it was machine he said, a company up with
and we've absolutely put it back together. Wayne was absolutely
making visitors. It's not long ago and he was a
christ and him and his wife and it was quite
a standard with with what we had done. But see

(01:46:09):
the problem with helicopters restoring them everything is life or sorry,
most of the components are life. They have a limited
life and that's once that they're done. Like we're roatorblades,
we've got to see the roadablades four out or twelve,
a lot of other components, but they've got life on them.

(01:46:31):
Once those hours have run out. That's that they're finished.

Speaker 2 (01:46:34):
Hey, just just for the sake of the show, when
we describe the Heller twelve, could you tell us what
people would have seen that and that's not in the Mesh?
Is that in the opening credits of Mesh. It's one
that looks it's very it's very skeletal looking, isn't it.

Speaker 6 (01:46:52):
It's just got the No, it's actually well, it actually
gets confused with the Bill forty seven. It's very similar.
The forty seven was the first practical commercial helicopter, and
the Bell and the whole of twelve was the next
one that's got a big bubble like the Belt forty seven,

(01:47:16):
and they came to New Zealand the first ones in
the nineteen fifties and they were used for crop dusting,
but they were the first major helicopter that was used
for deer recovery.

Speaker 3 (01:47:29):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:47:29):
I think people have seen that. There's some movie or
some image. We've seen it. I just can't reflect. It
looks very recognizable once I can sing it, so yeah, yeah, yeah, Okay,
Well I appreciate that chat too, Paul, So nice to
talk to you. They've just released the top ten Songs
for dying people adop ten song wishes cheapers over the

(01:47:51):
rainbow bags, not knol at Marcus, good evening.

Speaker 4 (01:47:57):
It's good ending. Marcus is there very well tonight. And
there Daddy so like as a fourteen year old, was
lying underneath the trailer that had been horse strawn and
we were converting to a single axe or a single drawbar,
and my father was on the end of a sleeve
tammer swinging it and managed to correct my head flat

(01:48:20):
on the foro hing.

Speaker 2 (01:48:20):
Wow, that would be a bad day for him as
a parent.

Speaker 4 (01:48:25):
Yeah, there was no pain, no nothing, they reckon, they paint,
no brain. I suppose that's part of it. But the
second one was when I was somewhat older, probably fast
pension a jeeven, helping a guy in in order to
remove tree trunks that had been not in the guide

(01:48:45):
sort of thing, and he was using his track to
he was driving the tractor stand behind it and I
had a corrugated fence behind me and I didn't realize
he had so much pressure on it. But when he
gave way, he had the tractor standing on its front tires.
It's how much preacher he's putting on it, and it
gave way, and think brought me between the corrugated fence

(01:49:09):
in the trunk. He came racing around. I haven't killed you.
I haven't killed you. And I said no, but just
let me.

Speaker 2 (01:49:15):
Breathe any repercussions.

Speaker 4 (01:49:20):
No, no, no, And just to finish off markets I've
waited till last the night during it, he had a
guy from Oi here who finished work on the Friday
and shot up to the need and picked up his
mate from Wanton to go send me. Now was that good?

Speaker 2 (01:49:41):
It's something, isn't I hadn't thought of people traveling for that.
That's amazing.

Speaker 4 (01:49:44):
He did do that here and I spoke to him
tonight and he said, yeah, it was late, but he
couldn't get off where his father was holding it back
to work, but he picked his mates up from Winton
and then went up and virtually too late getting me here.
But yeah, at least they made the effort to.

Speaker 15 (01:50:02):
Go and do it.

Speaker 4 (01:50:03):
He said, durty organization. Very well, that was it's a
poor organization.

Speaker 2 (01:50:08):
Well look I'm furious about it. Because Luxon came down
and said the great thing was how well everyone coped
for eighty five year old man to have to go
and get sand fill up his own sandbags. I thought
it was shocking. That's an area with a lot of
retired people south of Leedon. I couldn't believe how bad
that was.

Speaker 3 (01:50:25):
No, No, it's horrible.

Speaker 4 (01:50:27):
Yeah. So I was very pleased with doing that because
that's yeah. Today they finished so effects he caming down
in the mud trek as they gain mud treking. Yes,
and they went down or Someway around twice or somewhere
around here, and they had a great time. He can
hereative diesels.

Speaker 2 (01:50:48):
Oh good, love the mud treking. It nice to talk to.
Thank you. That's it for me. People.

Speaker 1 (01:50:52):
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