I feel mouth-sick already (18 July 2025)

Marcus talks car cleaning, Connie Francis, the Air India pilots, and karaoke.

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Speaker 1 (00:07):
You're listening to the Marcus Lush Nights podcast from News Talks.

Speaker 2 (00:11):
I'd be greeting's welcome it as the Friday free for
you know what the Friday free froll means. It means
it's loose like a goose. And I don't even know
what loose like a goose means actually effectually, but what
I just asked chet GPT to come up some different
expressions for loose like a goose, and it failed really
badly because loose like a goose. But it came back

(00:33):
with expressions like free as a being a breeze, or
loose as a moose on the loose, or wavy like
gravy on a cruise Who says that? Who'd say wavy
like gravy on a cruise? I reckon you can have
a hundred lifetimes and you can never You've only have
one hundred lifetimes on a cruise ship. But never once
would you need that saying or bendi like spaghetti in

(00:56):
a pot. Anyway, I went back and said four word
things that mean loose like a goose. They've got wild
like a child, free like the sea, chill like a thrill,
smooth like a groove, and then they have a malfunction
and they say loose like caboose juice. I feel mouthsick already.
How are you going people? What's happening? A lot of
sport tonight? We've got the Samoans versus is Have I

(01:21):
got that right? Yes? Versus Scotland. I thought from I
thought for a frightening moment it might be one of
our other PACIFICA nations. But there we go. Scotland are
leading there. We've got Rugby Legal so Crnulla and Sydney
and there is two games tonight and then tomorrow we've
got the Rugby and Hamilton. Who would they get in
Hamilton do the anthem? Who would be Hamilton's greatest singer?

(01:45):
I don't know who it's going to be, By the way,
I think really when it comes to the anthem, you
should really get someone local. I think it's pretty important.
I think we've thrown away the anthem recently. There's been
some people think, well, actually, what's going on there? Anyway?
That is Saturday, and then Sunday is the final of

(02:07):
the Salds Basketball League. That's at two pm. That is
Southland Sharks. They've won nine on the trot. Yeah, and
they have an extraordinary player from Nebraska. So watch him
here is great. You smile watching him because he's very
very good. Y Siah alt Alec I think his name is.

(02:31):
That's happening on Sunday, So hopefully Southland will win that
the Sharks, because I think we lost five in a
row to begin and then we've gone nine on the
trot without losing, and we defeated the defending champion, the
Cantabrian team, the Rams. I don't know why they called
the Rams, but anyway, that's a situation there. I'm gonna check.
I'm gonna sweep the chimney, change the car covers, the

(02:56):
car seat covers on the ute because it's just been
panel beated bit. So you know, when your car has fixed,
you want to fix the indoor of it a bit more, too,
don't you. So probably for the second time of my life,
I'll go to super cheap Auto. Because I'm not a
car person. I thought, oh well, because it's just full

(03:17):
of bits of gourse. You can't help you jump in
the pocket. You've got saws and stuff, and it puts
holes in it. And anyway, so I'm showing this. I'm
doing what most key emails do I think probably going
to show some ute love, which I'm looking forward to.
I've never once been car proud or like gotten the

(03:40):
air and done it because you go sometimes you go
to the old car wash because the modern car washes
take all those all those coins, don't they And you
can spray under That's why doing go and spray underneath.
Because live in a salty climate. But you see these
people the week in the big part of their weekend
task is driving down to wash world and getting all
those damn cors and spending hours good on them. But

(04:02):
I've never felt I've never felt compelled to do that,
which gives me a chance of a topic I've never
even discussed. Are you one of those once a week
car washers? Are you an obsession obsessive car washer. The
only reason I've done it is because because I live
in a maritime climate. So mud gets under there and

(04:23):
salt gets under there, and you've got a sprat, and
I've had the whole of the Chess East coated so
with sort of non rust stuff because yeah, it's a
it's a forbidding climate. But anyway, that's what I thought
I might do. I thought I might become car proud,
which I've never done. I'm not embarrassed to confess that
I've never been car proud. But anyway, now the US

(04:46):
is all fixed up, I'm excited about that. So that's
part of my weekend. Yeah, they love it though. The
car people in there, they get they do the whole thing.
It's probably a refreeing thing to have, always a clean car.
I've had ten eleven years of children, and children they're
not good up after them. You've got the first couple

(05:09):
of years you've got food tucked down the side of
the car seat. Then they graduate from that. It's down
the side of the booster seat, and they graduate from
that and it's just packets inside those kind of magazine
wrecks on the back of seats. In fact, if I
was designing cars, I wouldn't have those things at the
back of seats that people just put food down. And

(05:31):
I'd also have those things stuff down the side of
the seats so you can't lose things down the side
of your seats. I know you can buy those after Mark,
and I have them actually stock issue, because I can
never be gathered to go and buy them. Don't even
know what they're called. But look, if I've probably had
forty phone calls on talk, what you must do is
buy these things on the internet that stuff down the
side of your car seats. Never done it anyway, So

(05:54):
we'll be sports. I will keep you updated. But it's
Friday free for all. It's loose like a goose, and
I'm happy with that. So if you want to text
or start the whole discussion tonight, do what you can.
I asked loose like a goose. I asked chet gpt
to make it slightly sillier, wiggly like a pigly, goofy,

(06:16):
like a fluefy, slinky like a dinky, tipsy like a gypsy. Brackets.
Gypsy can be seen as offensive, can be it's very offensive,
looney like a tuney. Anyway, So tonight we're wiggly like
a pigly. By the way, Lamb's on the farm. That's exciting.

(06:40):
Funny the lambs though, because you walk up the panic
and they'll come straight to you. Why would lambs do that?
Why would they identify with humans? I mean, I've never
this is a day old lamb. Why would they bound
towards a human? Why would they know that we're silly
enough to give them food because we are never worked out.
They've never been that kind of like a kid's book anyway,

(07:04):
So yes, if you want to start the whole ball
rolling tonight, feel free to come through. There's no shortage
of things to talk about. But it's a Friday, You're
not Friday is like loose like a goose, or wiggly
like a piggly, or tipsy like a gypsy. That's highly
a fantastic because implied their drunk as well. Anyway, eight

(07:29):
hundred and eighty ten eighty nine two nine to text
you want to get through, I'm happy to talk all
night tonight, but I'm sure you'll come through soon with
something to say. Well, Trump's not good as these legs
are swating like the valves only go one way. And
just last night I was talking about bass jumpers. They

(07:49):
always die. Just last night I said that. Then Felix Bombgartner,
Well it look like he blacked out when he was diving.
I don't know the full details with that. Was really
exciting when he did that jump from the balloon. I
think it was. Anyway. Oh, by the way, there is
one woman and she wants school holidays to be shorter

(08:11):
because both parents work now and it's difficult. I kind
of like what she said. Actually, I don't know how
you'd make them shorter, but maybe the mid term one
could only be a week because it's a terrible time.

Speaker 3 (08:24):
Of the year.

Speaker 2 (08:24):
I don't know, it's just a thought. I don't know
what parents think about school holidays. Well I know what
I think feels about right to me, But I don't
work during the day, so we're blessed. And because of that,
I'm not really a credible witness on this because I'm
not affected by it. So sometimes in this job you've

(08:47):
got to put yourself in the position of others that
would be affected by the other thing. Well, actually, probably
for some parents it's quite hard work, and the kids
get sent to sort of the local church for two
weeks for a youth group, which could be extraordinarily fun
or not fun, depending on kind of how you break Anyway,
get in touch if you want to talk sixteen past eight,

(09:08):
there'll be other if you want to start the whole
discussion tonight. I feel I've come and actually sort of
half cooked ready with topics, but we'll get there. By
the way, it is World Karaoke Day, I can tell
you a funny story. I've only done karaoke once in
my life, and I only got reminded of this because
someone sent me a photo of it, and it's not

(09:28):
a good photo. And I'm not going to tell you
who I did karaoke with. Actually I'm going to save
that for later. But yes, it is karaoke. You might
have an interesting karaoke story. I haven't. Well, maybe I have,
but I'm not prepared to share it. But yes, if
you've got an interest in karaoke story, you might have
done it in a strange resort. You might have done

(09:49):
the Rose. What a great song that is for karaoke?
Not a great song anyway. I think I did the Gambler,
which is a terrible song. Any who. Oh eight hundred
and eighty ten eighty and nine two nine two de
texts if you want to come through the other thing
we could talk about. I just was going to mention
that quickly, and they've forgotten what it was. Some say

(10:10):
love it as a river that drowns the tend to read, now, what, Oh?
The other story that's everywhere, right, The story that's everywhere
is that couple that were at coldplay? Such a concert.
I mean Coldplay's market would be Sea would be the
CEO having a wrong with his with his marketing assistant

(10:32):
or whatever her war thing was. But anyway, they are on
the kiss cam together with him with his arms around her,
and that's gone about as well as you could have mentioned.
But what people are suggesting is things they could have done,
and what they shouldn't have done is just turned around
and melted. That was the worst thing they should have done.
They've drawn attention to themselves. What they should have done

(10:55):
was a really embarrassing dance like the Hoky Tokey or
the Funky Chicken, and the camera would have gone with
them pretty quickly, because no one's to see a middle
aged couple who in the funky Chicken at Coldplay. Anyway,
there's a lot of memes about that. Some of the
memes I haven't understood. I had to have Dan explained
me to them. The most common meme I've seen posted
there's a young guy with long hair holding a photo

(11:21):
of the couple, and I looked and looked and looked.
I couldn't understand it because people are posting without comment.
But what it is is it's the It is the
an image from the Nickelback song with the guy from

(11:42):
I presume it's the guy from Nickelback and he's holding
the photo and if you remember the song, look at
this photograph. Every time I do makes me laugh. How
do our eyes get so red? And what the hell
is on Joey's head? Great song in the day anyway,
So if you want to get involved with the show
tonight nineteen past eight, I could not my talk all

(12:03):
night tonight. Just as a test, I spent too long
on the internet today. I even came up with a
got served up a video by Trinny Woodall what was
their show called where they told people how to dress?
And she's telling people to get sick of addresses start

(12:24):
wearing them backwards, which seems to peak Internet to me.
Remember that one. I forget what the show was called.
They'd all wear different clothes and Trinny and Suzanne. Was
it just called that? I can't remember. You know, I'm
not saying things deliberately weird to get calls. I don't care, Marcus,

(12:45):
I do to I two. Yes, that's right, we've got
a topic. It is the karaoke of shame. Marcus, I
too did the game at my friend's wedding. I was
the only bride'swaid and it actually wasn't karaoke. I just
grabbed the DJ's microphone. The Evils of drink, Yes, I

(13:06):
think plenty of people have their last drink when they've
ruined their best friend's wedding. That seems to me, it
seems to be standard. Oh, here's a good question from Karen.
It's a great question from Karen Marcus. I've thought of
joining the gypsy fair lifestyle. Has anyone done this? What

(13:27):
does it take? Prosing? That's when you go around in
house trucks and you make craft and they come down
every and I always enjoy it. The kids have melted
down a couple of times because they've given them money
and they've spent it badly and then had commerce remorse
because kids buy things too quickly. But anyway, Oh, that's
a great thing to do. I'm sure there's fights and affairs,

(13:49):
and I'm sure it ends badly for some people. Tura Marcus,
it's Cashian from Tiaaha. Long time listed, first time texting.
I just let you know I won my hockey game
six and I got a goal. Legend Marcus, i'ncar proud.
Saturday is ute wash day. Then it rains on Monday,

(14:11):
tempted to carry the ute through the paddels breaks my heart. Goodness,
anyone car proud and cleans their car once a week
and goes down to those things and spends twenty dollars
on those cat coins. Evan, yes, hi, Evan ow are ye?

(14:32):
Ye're good? You're a bit of a trojan horser, are you.

Speaker 3 (14:35):
I was just going to talk about you can't just
blame the kids, you.

Speaker 2 (14:38):
Know, for what for the fire? That's what You're completely right. Sorry,
you're completely right. I'm as bad they've learnt from me.

Speaker 4 (14:46):
No.

Speaker 3 (14:46):
I remember the story about your lovely better half bringing
in the bag from overseas for maple syrup. Oh that's
what it was, map syrup.

Speaker 2 (14:57):
Terrible time. That's why I hate maple.

Speaker 5 (14:58):
Are you?

Speaker 2 (14:59):
Are you a car clean themselves all?

Speaker 3 (15:03):
When you're working on roadside quite often a lot of
a lot of dirt and dust. So yeah, I quite
like to run out through the car wash once a week.

Speaker 2 (15:12):
And clean the inside as well, Like in there with
the vacuum cleaner and stuff. Take the mats out, get
right in on your knees.

Speaker 3 (15:18):
People love doing that I'm not so good on the inside.

Speaker 2 (15:22):
Okay, yeah, well always yeah, okay, yeah, okay, no nor
am I? Okay? What sort of car you got, Evan?

Speaker 6 (15:30):
Oh?

Speaker 3 (15:30):
I got a Masdra on the island.

Speaker 2 (15:33):
Oh brilliant, Love it man. It's a nice to hear
from you. Evan, twenty three past eight. So we've got
a question about the Gypsy Fair lifestyle. If they've joined
the Gypsy Fair question. Nests and leafless trees? Will they
be reused or fixed or a source of next nest

(15:56):
building material? Do you know what that is about? Marcus?
The World Aquatic Champs are on currently in Singapore. I'm
one of the divers heading over one day. Go you,
Marcus Ridge Rider car seat covers from super Cheap for
your great price and last for a couple of years,

(16:16):
just saying now the woman can shove. It's not about here,
It's about the kids and the teachers. How is the
average rent where you are living? I think the average
wint would be quite reasonable down in the South. I

(16:38):
don't know exactly what it would be, but get in
touch anyway, head on midnight your karaoke confessions and are
you a car cleaning? I know people these days getting
to this car detailing where you go and play some
one hundred fifty dollars and they get and they post
it on YouTube too. I don't even understand that because

(17:00):
you do it and then you get so upset it
gets messed up again. Wouldn't you anyway? Get in touch,
Marcus or twelve get brain? What's the score against the
other one?

Speaker 7 (17:11):
Dan?

Speaker 2 (17:11):
What you got one forty?

Speaker 8 (17:17):
No?

Speaker 2 (17:17):
The Samoa? Ah, it's Scotland doing well twenty two nil
or just after halftime there I think to twenty minutes
gone to in the rugby league Cronulla fourteen Sydney. This
is the rooster. They should be doing better than that.
It's going against form that one. But get in touch.
You might be doing something interesting tonight, which will all

(17:40):
depend on your definition of interesting. But I'm up for
it too for the discussion, and I will keep your
data with the news throughout the next four hours. It
seems like a long time now, doesn't it, wom But
get in touch. Oh, eight hundred and eighty eighty and

(18:01):
nine two Detective is something I just want to talk about.
Feel free to come through. It'd be nice to hear
from you. I just saw a road exit everyone. Now,
I can't find the details of that, but I will
see what I can do with that one. Oh, New

(18:22):
Zealander has made the Dallas Cowboy Cheerleaders go her faith
Ward Wellington born dancer, the first time Newsander has made
the crew. Her name is faith Ward, but her cheerleading
nickname is Flexy Faith. What a great cheerleading nickname that is.

(18:43):
You can imagine she'd be a flexible sort of a person,
Flexy Faith. I can't tell the rest of the article
because it's paywalled. Just my luck. Oh eight hundred and
eighty today, I haven't done the deep dive into the
Gore water story, but imagine that will become an election issue. Yeah,
that's not good. You can't even boil it because they've

(19:04):
had horrendous rating crews there got up like thirteen percent
or something, and now you can't drink the water. You've
got to be kidding me. Cheapers, it's quite a big
town now, be ten or twelve thousand people night trates.
Don't know where there are Rizias might be up in

(19:26):
the Hawkinnui's Cooper's Well. Wow, that's crazy cheapest creepers. Wow,
it's a bit of a southern story there the water
and night traits. Anyway I get in touch. You want

(19:48):
to be a part of the show. Twenty had away
from nine miname as Marcus Welcome. There was something I
have talked about cleaning. Are you a car cleaning obsessive?
And what's your weekend ritual? Because it was all very
well with a drive through. People just drive through, but
they're not good enough. So now what they do is
they go to those wash worlds. We get the vacuum cleaners,
you get the wands. It's like a casino. You put

(20:09):
twenty dollars, You get all these coins and it sucks
them up the vacuum. You go, lift all the rugs out,
really getting hard with the vacuum cleaner on those right,
take them out under the sea. Well that's where that
bottle is quas in the bin under you get with

(20:30):
the wand sh brilliant. I've done it once, but people
love it there because because the one time I when
I looked at pill they looked like that it was
their regular thing, because their car looked to make and
you're exactly what to do. It felt like a Sunday
afternoon ritual. I don't think even many people would wash

(20:51):
their cars themselves, like with the hose at their house.
Would day? I don't know, and I think it out one.
I think there's two of them in the cargo, and
I think one of them you can take your dog,
vacuum your dog as well, and then you go to
those big laundromats. You can take your dog blanke and
wash it there. And the giant room room room. Of course,

(21:11):
there's a lot of sound effects to day, aren't I
And the spin dryer. What's that about? Wash world? I
don't know what. They just don't take standard two dollar coins.
Why do they have to have your own special coins?

(21:32):
What's that about? Yeah, Daniel, it's Marcus welcome.

Speaker 9 (21:36):
Yeah, I got two things. My grand my grandmother turns
one hundred tomorrow.

Speaker 2 (21:41):
Now okay, let me think what the date is you're
doing it. Nineteenth of July. Yeah, nineteen nineteen twenty five.
When would happened that day?

Speaker 9 (21:50):
I'm not too sure she was born, so I.

Speaker 10 (21:53):
Look at you.

Speaker 2 (21:53):
I'll look up on wikipedi what happened that day?

Speaker 9 (21:57):
Yeah? I just want to talk about the rugby names
on the on the jerseys, on on the sports this evening,
on the on the jumpers.

Speaker 2 (22:10):
Where this on.

Speaker 9 (22:13):
No, no, it's got on the on the on the
on the sports Yeah, on the sports radio at seven o'clock.

Speaker 2 (22:27):
On sports talk.

Speaker 11 (22:29):
You're talking.

Speaker 2 (22:30):
I didn't I didn't catch sports Talk today.

Speaker 9 (22:32):
Talking about having names on their back their jerseys, all blacks.

Speaker 2 (22:37):
The players names. Yeah, that's a good thing. That's a
good thing.

Speaker 9 (22:41):
Yeah, I reckon I should do it to you.

Speaker 2 (22:43):
Why, well, why don't they?

Speaker 9 (22:46):
Yeah, I'm not too sure, but I reckon it would
be a good thing.

Speaker 2 (22:48):
Yeah, because the commentators. The commentators can't tell one one
player from the other these days.

Speaker 9 (22:54):
No, they can't know.

Speaker 2 (22:55):
They're terrible. You think you get one game a week
or four games a year and you can't even work
out who's who.

Speaker 9 (23:01):
They can't.

Speaker 2 (23:02):
They were confused the whole time.

Speaker 9 (23:04):
Yeah, yeah, they are there. They do get confuseding you.

Speaker 12 (23:08):
Well, you think you could for it.

Speaker 2 (23:09):
You think you get AI that could actually just come
up with their screen with a player. Yeah, well I
suppose he just put them on the back of the jerseys,
wouldn't you.

Speaker 9 (23:17):
Yeah, you make it simple.

Speaker 2 (23:18):
Yeah, well that sounds like a good talk back session.
What else were people saying?

Speaker 9 (23:23):
Yeah, there were no one really ranging about it. It
was all just on tis.

Speaker 2 (23:29):
Anything controversial or vaguely racist, saying the surnames were too
long or anything like that. No, well that's positive.

Speaker 9 (23:36):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (23:37):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (23:38):
Did you do a little bit of you do a
little bit of a beat there with your phone?

Speaker 9 (23:44):
Yeah?

Speaker 7 (23:45):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (23:45):
God.

Speaker 9 (23:46):
Your grandmother, yeahs from the and Richmond. She was from Richmond,
and she was born in the in the late twenties
and grown up in the thirties. She told me, she
told me she needs to tenth because the appearances never
afforded afford a hell wow wow, from some two k's

(24:07):
on the river each day to get to school. Yeah,
some two kes each day to give but and walk
to school marked the cows. Yeah, I suppose. I suppose
it's why she's the two hundred great age. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (24:21):
Yeah, what you're set up today? Are you lying on
a bead or because you're pushing a button on the
phone quite often? Did you know you're doing am I? Yeah?

Speaker 9 (24:28):
No, no, no, your name on on my bed going
to keep warm.

Speaker 2 (24:32):
Are you in a tent?

Speaker 13 (24:34):
No? No, no, on my bed.

Speaker 2 (24:35):
I think you want have heer it to the family tent.

Speaker 9 (24:38):
No, no, my grandmother needs to live on a t
that's right.

Speaker 2 (24:41):
Yeah, is it something is it something special you're going
to do for her.

Speaker 9 (24:44):
Tomorrow tomorrow and I help her? Yeah, and then wake
it up?

Speaker 2 (24:50):
Yeah. Are you having a party for her?

Speaker 14 (24:52):
Yeah?

Speaker 13 (24:53):
Yeah?

Speaker 14 (24:54):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (24:54):
Is she in her home or is she still live
on her own?

Speaker 14 (24:57):
Her own?

Speaker 2 (24:58):
Yeah, she says like a good shot. Hard Yeah, hard
to buy someone? Hard to buy someone a prison for
a hundred because of everything. Thing wouldn't What are you
going to buy a gift?

Speaker 9 (25:09):
Yeah or something?

Speaker 12 (25:11):
Yeah?

Speaker 9 (25:12):
Yeah, yeah, okay, Yes, she's still bakes and gardens and yeah.

Speaker 2 (25:17):
Does she still swimming? Is she still? Does she still
swim in the river?

Speaker 12 (25:23):
Got to laugh.

Speaker 2 (25:24):
I gotta laugh out of you, Daniels. Okay, Yeah, nice
to hear from you being a highlight boy, pretty beepy guy.
I felt bad saying to hear in a tent. Yes,
sorry about that. I apologize. I've one that sounded and sensitive. Anyway,
get in touch if you want to talk.

Speaker 10 (25:46):
Yes.

Speaker 2 (25:46):
I always thought the players name should be on the
back of the jerseys. I don't know why they don't
do it. Although Scotland had their names on the jerseys,
they all came off up and fun are because the
every bad ironing job look terrible. Marcus would you ever

(26:11):
know why Scotland not playing the All Blacks? I think
they would beat them. Regards to that, you're probably not wrong.
But when you say the all Blacks, I mean which
all blacks they touch? Change the numbers so many times
for depth? Do we used to just start with a
get a start in fifteen? Stick with them, isn't they
were famous for they were like the French would change
them hand over fist anyway, Get in touch by name's

(26:35):
Marcus head at the end of Midnight twenty ten clar
over Sidney WA's the other score twenty two earls snow
and scored during halftime. Get in touch. You want to
be a part of the show, My names Marcus. I
had to read that Wikipedia entry on Epstein to the
Epstein today. That's pretty interesting. Goodness, three minutes missing footage

(26:59):
for the video guys fell asleep. Yeah, it'd be hard.
I mean, I'm not saying it is a con it'd
be hard to look at all that and well, you
know you know what I'm saying. Don't you anyway? Get
in touch with that Marcus till midnight. If you want
to be a part of the show, anything goes. It's
the Friday free for all, loose like a goose. Amazing,

(27:22):
there's people still alive that we're living in tents. I
guess there's still people living in tents, aren't there? But
that seemed to be more common. So if you want
to be a part of it. Don't quite know what
happened to Boomgartner. He's the base jumper anyway, hered on midnight.

(27:45):
If you want to be part of the show eight
hundred eighty ten eighty, keep your texts, your calls coming through. Yes,
are you an obsessive car washer? Do you do it
every week? I like people that are car proud, but
you come through. Someone asks if the guy's grandmother's living
in Canvas town that isn't Nelson near where they were,

(28:10):
And someone wants to know if it's a good life
joining the Gypsy fair. They are those people that go
from town to town selling trinkets. It'd be good if
you've got on with it. They always seem like quite
a good career. The kids seem kind of fun, bearfoot
and fair all but fun. Oh no, it's good. So
if that's something you've thought of doing, if you've joined that,
there would be of interest. I know a lot of

(28:31):
house struckers. Listen. I just want to have their house
truckers that have joined the cavalcade. All the lines are free,
no dramas. I can handle it. If you want to
be a part of the show. Good. You might be
doing something interesting on this Friday night. I don't know what.
You might be out there driving, you might be going
on away for the long weekend. You might be doing something.
You might be in some earth shatteringly interesting place. But yeah,

(28:54):
get in touch. Oh eight hundred and eighty ten eighty
nine two nine to the text, looking forward to hearing
from you. We're talking about obsessive car cleanness. Are you
one of those people that once a week does that,
like spend three hours doing in the whole thing detailed?
I think you can buy all those kits now and
you get onto temu. Then you look on the incident
and look how you can actually make your car shine.

(29:16):
It's probably quite a fun obsession to have actually not
harming anyone. So that might be you. It's what we
are talking about tonight and karaoke bad karaoke experiences only
because it's International Karaoke Day. I guess it's still a thing.
I think pub karaoke is quite big, isn't it. They
have to do it competitively like you in bar tabs

(29:37):
and stuff. Not part of my rhombus. I've never got
involved with that. Twenty twelve Crowner over Sydney, second half
of the rugby den still twenty two and that's to
Scotland over Samoa, and still some sort of leakage talk
hangover talk from players' names on the backs of jerseys.

(29:57):
We do no harm. I just thought they probably wouldn't
want to do it because of the sponsors. The jersey
is probably more valuable. Of the sponsor's logo is not
compete with the eyeballs for a name above it. That
would be my take on that one. But yes, here
we go. Here we are fifteen away from twelve. By
the way, Scotland they will play the All Blacks in

(30:22):
November during the Northern Tour, so yes we are playing them.
I don't know why we're not playing them down here,
but there you go. It would have been a good
warm up for the French tour, wouldn't it. But I
guess they've got so many commitments now that you haven't
got that much time to put a sneaky Scotland match
in there fifteen to nine. As I've said, to be

(30:44):
good to hear from you. If there's any other breaking news,
you've got to let us know what that is. Oha
eight hundred eight. Oh by the way, Gore, what was
I asking about? God? Yeah, Wow, you can't even boil
your water because it's full of night trate. It's terrible.

(31:08):
And it seems as though we talked about this yesterday.
You might have had some time to think about the
Air India crash. Seems as though everyone's now saying that
it's deliberate with the captain switching the fuel off. I
don't know what that's going to do with people's attitudes
towards flying, because wow, it's three times now with passenger

(31:34):
jets they've deliberately put them into Well, if this is true,
I guess we wait for the full investigation. That might
be something you want to mention also tonight. So yeah,
let's hear from you. If you want to be a
part of it. This is a nice chance you might
come up with some other topic you want to kind
of raise up. And it's all good, all well and good.
It's been a fairy lively week of talk too. So

(31:54):
let's continue that. You can even speculate on the national
anthem and Hamilton tomorrow. I don't have we found out
where the French is staying yet? Is it the Monderesre?
That's what I think normally where they they'd be the
appropriate p I think that's where they normally stay. I
see they closed down about forty years ago. What else

(32:16):
can I tell you tonight? People get in touch here
or twelve. My name is Marcus, welcome, oh eight hundred
and eighty to eighty. Can't quite work out how that
person would have taken that cannabis cake to work. Must
have just been a mistake. A anyway, they're throwing the
book at an and court next week month, sheared lunch

(32:37):
Hawks Bay Hospital are laced items. Yeah, Hi, Philip's Marcus,
thanks for hanging in there. Good evening, Michas.

Speaker 15 (32:48):
You mentioned the extin case and the missing three minutes
on the video and the sort of thing they It's
like a lot of things.

Speaker 7 (32:58):
For me.

Speaker 15 (32:58):
What I notice sometimes is it's not so much about
what everybody's talking about, it's what everybody hasn't yet mentioned
or isn't talking about. When you'd know that there wouldn't
just be one video camera in the whole prison, just
pointing out Epstein's door. There would have been hundreds of
video cameras, probably if assuming it's a big jail, there
would have been video cameras at the main gate. There

(33:20):
would have been video cameras in the front inge, and
video cameras down most of the corridors. And if there
were people who showed up at the jail were given
access to his cell and murdered him, which is what
a lot of people would like to think was really
what happened, there'd be video of these people arriving at

(33:44):
the jail being shown in, shown to the cell, and
so on, and that is the video I think they
should be demanding to see.

Speaker 2 (33:55):
There's other cameras that aren't working. That weren't working that
also caused concern. So that was the thing. It wasn't
just a camera in the cell. It was in a
place they couldn't see I think.

Speaker 7 (34:06):
Either.

Speaker 15 (34:06):
I mean, if there were we'll never know, because I
think if if there is a cover up, then and
we do we ever see a video, it's not going
to be the actual video of that night, but you
know it'd be it'd be more than just that video,
and I guess sometimes you say, Okay, it's it's the
fact that they haven't shown us that video footage. Almost see,

(34:32):
Something's a bit like when they found that bag of
cocaine at the at the door of the at the
entrance to the to the White House, that people say, oh,
the fact that they haven't told us who's cocaine that
it tells us whose cocaine it was. You know, it
was allegedly under Biden stashed it there.

Speaker 2 (34:51):
The two the two the two cameras in front of
a cell malfunction that night, and another camera had footage
that was unusable.

Speaker 15 (34:59):
Yeah, I mean, it definitely does not look good. But
sometimes just stuff happens exactly chance chance haven't.

Speaker 2 (35:06):
But exactly Although with his suicide he had nicks, bones
and his necks broken. That had not happened to any
other any of the other five hundred suicides in that state,
so that also was peculiar. But yeah, I'll be looking. Yeah,
people like to believe the more complicated and criminal explanation,
but yeah, I'm hearing your phil twenty nine to five

(35:27):
Scotland over Samoa twenty twelve halftime Crnulla over the Roosters
a couple of league games tonight and a big weekend
of sport. How you're going, I hope it's good with
you are people, and if there's breaking news, I'll bring
that to you. Do what I can on this quiet
Friday night, looking forward to what you want to say.

(35:49):
Be a part of if you want to great listings.
While I do food deliveries. If I have a cold food,
I'll blame you for intriggering conversations. Good on you. Your
caller was right though. We has three business pub store,
cafe and Fresh Choice all sell alcohol. The next new

(36:09):
business can senders wait for it as super liquor. Well,
I guess, I mean it's not the number of shops,
it's how much OK people are buying. So I guess
it's whether we have smaller, bigger shops or bigger less
shops or more shops everywhere. Must make a fortune selling liquor.

(36:34):
They must make an absolute fortune some of those shops.
When you see how busy they are, it's why they'll
be doing it. Great cash business. Anyway, get in touch.
My name's Marcus. Welcome. Obsessive car cleanness is another topic
for tonight. You might be a total car neat freak.
I want to know what your ritual is and how

(36:54):
often you do it? How many hours a week you'd
spend cleaning your car? Now news breaking? If that happens
to I'll bring that to you people. The big story, though,
the international story it's got everyone excited, is that the
CEO of the tech firm caught on Cold Place kiss cam.

(37:18):
She was a chief people officer, Kristin Cabo. I think
that might mean hr is it the people's officer? I
think what Coldplay are now are going to have. They're
gonna have an area of the thing that you can
go if you don't want to be on kiss cam.
Yes please. But they didn't handle it well. Their actions

(37:41):
looked guilty very very quickly. And watching the video back
as we speak now, I'm not going to watch an
ad before I can watch the video. How annoying is that?
Then so often you watch the ad and the video
doesn't show that's my life. Welcome to it, Come mate,
speed up the commercial. But yeah, they had a moment

(38:01):
of recognition. They looked up and they won ducked and
one kind of slunked. Oh yeah, and he kind of
tries to hide by she turned he tried to hide
by going down, then other people fill their place. It's
not good at all. It's worth watching those made my
day this good text. Not sure about the calls Marcus

(38:29):
about wearing clothes backwards. According to an ethnic belief, if
you are lost in a wilderness, you turn your t
shirt backwards and you'll find your way back to where
you started. Makes sense. She looks so married, can't be
seen with him. At the same time he looks slightly
relieved it's out in the open. This is a billionaire

(38:52):
caught dancing at Coldplay. Wow. Anyway, all the lines are free.
What we are I don't know if to see talk
back about kiss Cam. I just what I thought was
interesting was all the memes, and some of them I
didn't understand but kind of got the after they'll explained
to me. I'm only keen about talking about people that
are obsessed with washing their car. That has some great
car washing ritual, like would you do it once a week?

(39:16):
Or does that seem too often? So we are talking
about that in karaoke? Then the Epstein file is anything
else you want to talk about this fine Friday night,
As I say, you might be doing something else. You
might just want to chap. I'm pretty much in fravor
of the numbers on the names on the back of
the rugby player. I think that's a great idea. I

(39:37):
don't know why, but I just think it is. Oh,
if you're from Gore, let us know what the situation
where the water is. You'd be furious after that rate increase.
For clearly your water system's not fit for purpose. Where's
the night trate getting in? This is the future night
trade in the water, aren't They're very aware of that
that's happening. And wearing clothes backwards. Oh and the other

(40:02):
thing too, how's that new motivate? That new highway, the
one to armist North, Is that going well? You don't
hear any complaints about it? That must be going gangbusters?
They the twelve K road, I think it is. By
the way, now, Donald Trump and Rupot Murdoch are in
a fight because Rupop Murdoch owns the Wall Street Journal,

(40:29):
who are publishing a picture of a letter that is
the card that Donald Trump sent to Epstein yep. The
birthday card featured the outline of a naked woman with
pubic hair drawn out by the signature Donald. The typewritten

(40:49):
text reads happy birthday, May every day be another wonderful secret.
So I think they're rather about to I have printed
the letter. Yes I haven't seen image of the letter yet,
but no, that will happen soon. Surprise, Rupop Murdoch's still alive.

(41:14):
The other the other old groany talkback topics are shorter
school holidays and giving young people the vote. So if
you really want some entry level talkbout, you could ring
on that. Although people get triggered by young people voting,
don't they. I think it's the beginning of the end.
It could be the end of the beginning. You never

(41:34):
quite know. To Marcus, welcome.

Speaker 11 (41:38):
Yea good evening, Marcus. I just briefly start with the
slightly dodgy stuff. Best wouldn't President Trump have been in
receipt of their birthday card? So I met their hands
on it.

Speaker 2 (41:53):
I think he was giving it to Epstein. I think
it was going the other way.

Speaker 11 (41:57):
The other way.

Speaker 2 (41:59):
Yeah, yeah, it's good. As soon as you said I
thought hanging about it, I got that one wrong. Let
me read the sentence. Yeah, because it's signed by Donald
so it's it's a term to Epstein. So I guess
it was probably ye ye, yep.

Speaker 11 (42:18):
Yeah, it sounds a bit slimmy, doesn't it without casting
a specials And I'm a prey fan of the president. Anyway,
That's where the line stops there, happy stuff? Is it
time for karaoke? Car wash combination? I mean, it's got

(42:41):
to be good for your cardio. Hasn't it be a fantastic.

Speaker 2 (42:45):
It's going to be a fantastic thing. I don't quite
know how the layout would work.

Speaker 11 (42:50):
Well, would you have effectively like a so you'd have everyone,
you know, you put your coins in, but you'd get
a headset. And would you get timed, you know, like
if you've got four or five bays, would everyone get
to go for each are so your time into the
cycle and see this is how the cart should make

(43:11):
more money. You hear your microphone would kay out at
the point where you cycle runs out, so you'd be
pumping coins and so you could finish a little river
bear number or whatever.

Speaker 16 (43:23):
I like it.

Speaker 12 (43:24):
Yeah, I like it.

Speaker 7 (43:26):
Luck.

Speaker 2 (43:27):
I don't think you managed to combine our two topics
like that.

Speaker 11 (43:32):
Neither did I is things? Do they just slim me ware?

Speaker 3 (43:35):
Here?

Speaker 16 (43:36):
They are in the head or once so I have
to get.

Speaker 3 (43:38):
Them out like it.

Speaker 2 (43:39):
I'm like it a great deal. Thank you, karaoke car wash.
It's the answer I've googled. I haven't seen one around
the world. Yours would be the world's first. John Good evening.

Speaker 12 (43:50):
Hello, Marcus, are you talking to me?

Speaker 2 (43:53):
Yes? John, Hi.

Speaker 12 (43:57):
I was a bit sadened this morning when I heard
the news that Cannie Francis had died. I grew up
with Connie Francis, not literally, but with her music, and
she was a real icon. And as for this fellow

(44:21):
from Fat Freddy's whatever his name is, I've never heard
of him.

Speaker 2 (44:25):
Yeah, I don't think that just because you haven't heard
of him, you can't diminish that the huge respect he
had by a huge number of influential musicians. I think
that's I think it's important to state because it seems
to be a huge outpouring of love for him.

Speaker 12 (44:42):
Right. Well, I'm not diminishing him. He was obviously not
of my generation.

Speaker 2 (44:49):
But just on Connie Francis, I spent some time reading
about her sad life, such a sad life for that
with what happened to her in that hotel room has
just destroyed her absolutely. It just seemed to be the
worst you know, just just a horrible thing. And I
had no idea about that.

Speaker 12 (45:11):
Yes, no, very sad life. But if you've got time tonight,
I'd love you. The player song of Collie's, the one
I mainly remember is Lipstick on Your Collar?

Speaker 2 (45:27):
Which is she the same time? Is she the same
time as Elvis.

Speaker 11 (45:33):
Earlier?

Speaker 17 (45:34):
Well?

Speaker 12 (45:35):
Yes, I suppose so. But she was one of the
early female singers.

Speaker 2 (45:41):
Yes, and she was the biggest selling female. She was huge.
I mean she was probably for a long time, the
biggest selling.

Speaker 12 (45:47):
Yes, and no, I said, I think that's where she
made her name.

Speaker 6 (45:56):
She and I think she.

Speaker 2 (45:57):
I think she did movies too, did she?

Speaker 12 (46:00):
Uh? Not that I can recall, but she may have done.

Speaker 2 (46:07):
But anyway, when the Boys meet the girls, or where
the Boys are, follow the boys looking for love, and
when the boys meet the girls. I think the last
three were derivatives of the first. But I think where
the Boys Are was quite a big deal, wasn't it?

Speaker 3 (46:19):
Oh it was?

Speaker 12 (46:21):
It was? Yes, when I was sixteen, seventeen eighteen, you know,
you get all gooy.

Speaker 2 (46:33):
Oh goodness, okay, yeah, wow.

Speaker 12 (46:36):
Oh she was lovely.

Speaker 2 (46:38):
How old was how old was she John?

Speaker 12 (46:42):
When she died?

Speaker 11 (46:43):
Yeah?

Speaker 12 (46:44):
Oh, I don't know, but I'm well, I'm eighty two,
so I think she was in the late eighties.

Speaker 2 (46:54):
I'll look it up.

Speaker 12 (46:56):
Yes, you look it up, Marcus.

Speaker 2 (46:58):
Appreciate you coming through too. She's eighty seven when she
died in Florida, John, thank you, seventeen pasted nine looking
for your calls, Marcus. Regards Gore Water, it's almost like
we need a central organization. You could afford the financial
outlay to resolve such issues. Yeah, I thought it was
kind of mischievous of that local government minister who went
to the local government conference and said that, godness gracious me,

(47:20):
you've got to kep your spending when the whole spending
is for the billions of dollars for the whole three
waters that the councils have underfunded for years because of
their nature to underfund because people don't want to spend
the money because otherwise you get voted out. And three
waters are going to take that all off them go
to central government where they had the continuity of management

(47:44):
to run it forever. But I know, oh no, anyway,
And talking about Connie Francis also certainly before my time,
and according to what I read today, she became very,

(48:05):
very big on TikTok. Her music was used and I
don't know if anyone I'm not going. I almost said
we need a TikTok correspondent because so much of it
is TikTok. But yes, I guess your music was put
over videos and people love that. So music got a
whole new relevance again. Hello, glenis welcome. It's Marcus. Good evening.

Speaker 18 (48:26):
I've got Connie Francis on. Make an actual thing like
her too?

Speaker 11 (48:31):
Can you?

Speaker 3 (48:32):
Yea?

Speaker 2 (48:33):
How does she sing?

Speaker 7 (48:35):
You?

Speaker 18 (48:35):
Listen to this? It's Connie Francis now right, Yeah, I
t too?

Speaker 8 (48:41):
More somehow you've had duel way, No, you must pay.
I'm glad you.

Speaker 2 (49:07):
Know lardus you've got a gift.

Speaker 5 (49:12):
I don't know.

Speaker 18 (49:13):
I know I went, I went busking, and everybody you said,
more and more and more?

Speaker 2 (49:18):
What today?

Speaker 8 (49:23):
Yesterday?

Speaker 2 (49:23):
Wow, tell me something what you set up?

Speaker 18 (49:27):
And I just just me. I must have had a
gift and didn't what they called a hidden talent? But
what is it?

Speaker 8 (49:38):
Is there?

Speaker 2 (49:39):
Is it a photograph?

Speaker 18 (49:41):
Yet?

Speaker 8 (49:41):
The CD?

Speaker 18 (49:43):
The original one of her best of Connie Francis.

Speaker 2 (49:46):
Oh what's her best song?

Speaker 8 (49:48):
Stupid?

Speaker 18 (49:49):
Stupid?

Speaker 2 (49:50):
I hated stupid, stupid, followed the boys, The boys go.

Speaker 18 (49:56):
Followed the I can't remember, well, that's that would be
hard to go. But this is one called that. When
she got the tech in her apartment, it's she sang
a song called something about Who's Sorry Now? Not so
Who's sorry now? While it was another song? But she
I wrote to her and I sent her a card,

(50:19):
and I thought one, no reply because she can't getch
you now. But she's always been in my heart.

Speaker 2 (50:25):
You seen her card today?

Speaker 6 (50:27):
No?

Speaker 18 (50:27):
I sent a card at Christmas last year.

Speaker 2 (50:30):
Oh you're already quite You're already quite taken by her.

Speaker 18 (50:33):
I was taken. I really was, and I can actually
when I sang, I sang above her her voice another words,
my voice echoed above her, which was the same type
of tune as her. I'm sorry.

Speaker 2 (50:49):
No, were the movies any were the movies any goodliness?

Speaker 18 (50:54):
Yeah? Fantastic?

Speaker 2 (50:57):
Really?

Speaker 18 (50:57):
But yeah, I've got little batteries in my little CD,
so I carry it round with me supportable CD record player.

Speaker 2 (51:05):
Because did you really go busking yesterday?

Speaker 19 (51:08):
Yeah?

Speaker 18 (51:09):
Because I like singing, you see, But whether people like
me or not, I just like sitting somewhere and having
your sing.

Speaker 2 (51:15):
So you get much do you get given much money?

Speaker 18 (51:21):
A couple of dollars?

Speaker 2 (51:23):
It's not bad. It's a glenus. Oh you got music?
Nice to hear from your twenty six past nine skuls
of people feel so comfortable. They just ring and sing,
don't they ring and sing? Which I don't mind. It's
the poems that I don't want. You've heard radio poetry terrible.

(51:45):
It's too rhyming. Over accentuate the end, punt the end rhyme. Anyway,
just checked out Connie on TV. Lipstick on your collar,
a bit of a locker. They did a skim through
the crowd, most of them chewing gum. Must have been
when chewing gum was the end things true. It must

(52:06):
have been big in the fifties. I don't know why
that was. It's kind of well. It came back for
a while because I thought it was good for dental hygiene.
We don't see people doing much gum now, do you.
What's that about? Who do I see chewing gum on
the TV? The other day? I said, was it a
rugby league match? I was watching someone I surprised I

(52:27):
was chewing gum. Let me think who that was. It
was someone in the state of origin anyway, twenty seven
past nine. Who's in the zone. Get in touch if
you want to. Oh, eight hundred eighty ten eighty. Talking

(52:48):
about Connie Francis, I think she toured New Zealand. If
you know about that, let me know. Oh, wait, hundred
eighty ten eight. I'm sure she has. Connie Francis, singer
who once rivaled Elvis and the Beatles. So yes, she's

(53:09):
a big deal. Her real name was Conceetta Rosa Maria
Francos Senero, I would say Italian, and she also sang
a lot of other songs. She sang a lot of
songs in different languages. She just do phonetically. She just
look at it and she'd sing along to it. Just

(53:30):
look at the wood. You'd write it down phonetically, and
that was what she would do. Sort of the Jukesbox era,
wasn't it. My dad, who has passed now, spoke limited English,
but loved listening to Connie Francis. Ray Charles and Frank
Sinatra tried to get us kids listened to them in
the early seventies, but we went to that sort of music.

(53:51):
Young blood was chewing? Are you better be? Young Blood?
I was what gosh, she nailed it at the Aussie
Osborne because I can't believe how good that song was. Gee,
that was good. But thank You've got a textback about that,
cause knew someone would have appreciated that. Twenty six eighteen
Cornell are over the roosters, quarter of an hour left
to go in there should be Cronella's victory this one.

(54:16):
Let me put my headphones on. I think we've got
someone interesting, interesting caller approaching Good evening, Diane.

Speaker 6 (54:24):
It's good evening where the boys are in Among my souvenirs,
those were two of who really good songs.

Speaker 2 (54:34):
Okay, and that was the song of the movie.

Speaker 3 (54:37):
Was it?

Speaker 6 (54:38):
I know I was way at mccampry. I was only
able to kid about thirteen when I used to listen
to her. But I always listen to music all my life.

Speaker 2 (54:48):
Right, maybe, Diane, where were you?

Speaker 17 (54:52):
Oh?

Speaker 6 (54:53):
I think at the time we lived in Baily. Oh yeah,
this side of failing it. Yes, yep, you know where
the trains come overs by that and that sort of thing.

Speaker 2 (55:10):
Is I'm just wondering when you're in Winscombe, right yep?
Did you go to town to Timodau to get your
music or did you get it by the mail and
one of those record clubs.

Speaker 6 (55:22):
Oh no, I used to learn music. Oh yes, yeah,
like learn the piano, and but I always wanted the guitar.
So it's probably one of the first things where I
went to work. I bought myself a guitar. Not that
there's more available now these days on paying the guitar oras.

(55:46):
In those days, you just had to have some friends
that knew about where the chords are and that sort
of thing.

Speaker 2 (55:53):
Did you did you get good at it?

Speaker 6 (55:56):
I still do county music.

Speaker 5 (55:59):
Oh well, yeah, so you know.

Speaker 6 (56:02):
In my old age. It has been my older I've
been doing it for like seventy years. Yes, sure, yes,
but had we stroke so that sort of put me
out of commission. Bro, I'm just about better.

Speaker 2 (56:19):
That's good.

Speaker 7 (56:19):
I know.

Speaker 2 (56:20):
I know strokes can be hard to come back from,
aren't they, Because you know, I'm.

Speaker 6 (56:24):
Really lucky, very lucky, bless Yeah. Oh well, I was
on those blood pressure pills anyway, and my doctor kept saying, well,
you know, get to and take another another, you know,
not not just one take to take two. So I
think the day I had it, I took three. I
thought I'm going to get this at Bayoneer, so I

(56:47):
kept singing. I couldn't get into too, so I got
into hospital the following day. I couldn't stay home and
they called the ambulance for me. But I didn't really
want to go to the hospital. I just wanted to
get better myself at home.

Speaker 2 (57:03):
Yes, I can understand that.

Speaker 14 (57:05):
Yeah.

Speaker 6 (57:06):
Practice my music is see and it's what I did.
I've been doing it this just about every day. I'm
playing something there.

Speaker 2 (57:16):
Yes, let me ask you a question. Did Connie Francis
sing country music?

Speaker 13 (57:25):
Oh?

Speaker 6 (57:26):
No, it was just pop music.

Speaker 2 (57:29):
I thought she might have done a country album, not.

Speaker 6 (57:32):
That I can remember. Where the Boys Are is probably
about the closest you'd get. But people do sing her
songs at country music, you know, like they've been pop
songs in their day. When they get old enough, they
turn they sing a.

Speaker 2 (57:51):
Country Okay, did you take your guitar to hospital?

Speaker 6 (57:58):
I would if I could have.

Speaker 2 (58:00):
Next time, call me, I'll drop it off. Diane, Nice
to Talk twenty four to ten thirty eighteen, con over Sydney,
ten minutes left Summer twelve, Scotland forty one and Phoenix
to our against Rixham. That should be a but that
should be fun actually got on them for taking it around.
It's like the old days when all the football English
football team would visit New Market Park. You know the

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drill twenty one to ten. Jamie, it's Marcus.

Speaker 19 (58:26):
Welcome, Hey Marcus, there you go.

Speaker 2 (58:29):
Good Jamie, thank you.

Speaker 19 (58:30):
I thought I ring up about Carl. I'm not a
religious car washing guy, but when you use the one
that you put your coins in, you don't use or
you can when it scratches your car, the foaming brush,
you always got to take your own sponge or miss
the foaming brush because it scratches your car.

Speaker 2 (58:48):
Really. Okay, so that's the one that's got foam in it,
and then it's water comes through with it a right.

Speaker 19 (58:54):
Yeah, yeah, it's like a brush and then phone comes
out it and it's like a third or fourth stage.
I think, so what screen?

Speaker 2 (59:01):
What scratches it?

Speaker 19 (59:03):
I think people use it to like mud off your car,
so you go, they won't say it down first, but
even if you do that, it still scratches your car.

Speaker 2 (59:15):
Oh so you take your own sponge.

Speaker 19 (59:18):
Yeah that's it.

Speaker 12 (59:19):
Yeah.

Speaker 19 (59:19):
My mate actually took his own sponge to one car
was here in Brisbon and he got told that he
had to he wasn't allowed to use his own sponge
and he's like, well, I paid for the space, so
it doesn't really matter if I'm using it or not.
And he said that he told the guy this stop
because the time he was wasting him exactly.

Speaker 2 (59:40):
Who would I don't even know. I don't even know.
You saw people hanging over you at those things. I
thought you're kind of on your own. That was a
beauty of them as no one they're telling you how
to do it.

Speaker 19 (59:48):
Yeah, maybe it's maybe it's just here in Brisbane, but yeah,
over here they'll have like yourself, but they have someone
that sort of walks around and keeps an eye on it.

Speaker 2 (59:59):
I had no idea. Yeah, I imagine a lot of
those car lovers. They are probably doing it each week,
aren't they? The car obsessives?

Speaker 11 (01:00:05):
Right?

Speaker 3 (01:00:06):
Yeah.

Speaker 7 (01:00:07):
Yeah.

Speaker 19 (01:00:07):
There's a place called Carture and everyone goes there on
a Friday night and you wash your car and you
have a bit of a cart when you go for
a drive.

Speaker 10 (01:00:15):
What's it called Cartuer.

Speaker 19 (01:00:18):
How's it spelled the water blaster?

Speaker 7 (01:00:19):
Brown?

Speaker 19 (01:00:20):
Oh yeahlaster Yeah yeah, yeah, that's a good good time.

Speaker 2 (01:00:24):
So it's a car wash and a hangout place.

Speaker 19 (01:00:28):
Yeah, pretty much. Yeah, there's a donut shop next to it,
Krispy Kreme as well, so but yeah, pretty funny. Used
to used to be a big thing to hang out at,
the one in bottom of the Key Street.

Speaker 7 (01:00:42):
There there was a wash World.

Speaker 19 (01:00:46):
You go and wash your car before you did your
boy Racer activity.

Speaker 7 (01:00:50):
You know.

Speaker 2 (01:00:52):
Whereabouts Key Street was Washworld down by the.

Speaker 19 (01:00:57):
Yeah, Key Street and you sort of head to Mission Baby.

Speaker 2 (01:01:02):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, that's Key Street's at the end
of the yeah, on the way to Mechanics Bay. Know
exactly where it was. That's why the boy Race is
hanging out. How do you How off do you wash
your card? Jamie?

Speaker 19 (01:01:16):
Oh maybe once a month whenever it leads it really.

Speaker 2 (01:01:20):
It seems quite often. Nice to talk to you, Thank you.
Patty Marcus welcome, Yeah, hi Marcus.

Speaker 4 (01:01:28):
Hey, just ringing to say. Connie is my era and
she definitely had a country and with an album she
did like Everybody's Somebody's Full Yeah, yeah, really good songs,
really good countries. She was great. It's just she had
a great voice. Act great lady, great lady.

Speaker 2 (01:01:48):
Where are you getting Where are you getting here? Are
you getting here? On albums you're buying in the post.
Are you going to the record shop because you're not
probably hearing on the radio or are.

Speaker 4 (01:01:56):
You No, I'll tell you the big place that I
find it is when I'm flying on a plane. You know,
when you get your selections. I believe bring people like
that up that I don't in normally a lot now, sure,
because you know I've got some vinyls, but where they
are now, I've got no you know, I've given them

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to my kids to look after and they probably don't.
But yeah, she you wouldn't find many records of HER's
in the shop, and you know, to be honest, not
many people pay them now.

Speaker 2 (01:02:31):
And your day, Patty, where were you hearing her? You
were hearing her on the radio? Were you just you
just heard her?

Speaker 7 (01:02:36):
Yeah?

Speaker 4 (01:02:37):
And movie she Colleen movie? And she was such an
attractive lady. You know, she's very much a starlet and
a diva or her in her day.

Speaker 2 (01:02:49):
And was she was she was? She was she young.

Speaker 4 (01:02:54):
When she who had beautiful features Italian and you know
like she's married four times? Yes, so yeah, ship she
was well loved by males.

Speaker 2 (01:03:08):
I would say, you're just looking at it too. You're
almost like a sophiaa renlo.

Speaker 8 (01:03:13):
Or.

Speaker 4 (01:03:15):
Yes, but more like Elizabeth Days.

Speaker 2 (01:03:18):
I'm saying that's something exactly Elizabeth Taylor with her hair
like that too, Yes.

Speaker 4 (01:03:21):
Yes, yes, yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:03:24):
Do you know Do you know if she toured New Zealand, Patty.

Speaker 4 (01:03:28):
I honestly no, I think no, because you know what
stars and that era. I didn't know who are a
place like New Zealand and not even probably Australia probably right,
maybe England, maybe England if you're lucky. Yeah, but yeah,
they didn't come here. We were the other side of

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the world, you know.

Speaker 2 (01:03:52):
They just didn't have and Elvis, Elvis never too it
because as manager didn't never passport because he get arrested
at the border.

Speaker 4 (01:03:58):
I think, yeah, what a shame mate were to get
Michael Jackson out.

Speaker 2 (01:04:08):
Really saw I saw him perform. Yeah, I don't know
how that.

Speaker 3 (01:04:15):
I thought.

Speaker 4 (01:04:15):
It was tremendous.

Speaker 2 (01:04:18):
Amount amount ants.

Speaker 11 (01:04:20):
Man.

Speaker 2 (01:04:20):
I can remember too, because I remember I was looking.
I was looking at the stage and beforehand you could
see him beside the stage doing quite a complicated long
warm up ritual which I thought was quite fun.

Speaker 4 (01:04:31):
Yeah, yeah, it was amazing.

Speaker 2 (01:04:35):
He was good. Okay, I forgot about that. Pretty nice
recovered memory for me fifty to ten. Thank you. Here
we go, Here we go, Here we go, hitdle twelve minameers, Marcus, welcome.
There's more words from the black box. The Captain of
Air India once even when when crashed and trusted his

(01:04:56):
first officer with the plane before takeoff. The plane is
in your hands, he told first officer Clive Kunda. Then
he flip switched the fuel off. Jeepers, They said, why
did you shut off the engines? I didn't do it.
Hees it several more times over a further six seconds.

(01:05:19):
We are money talking about karaoke mishaps, car washes or
car cleaning rituals. So I'm interested to hear about. And
the couple caught on kiss at the Coldplay concert. They
handled it about as bad as could as you could
imagine if you haven't followed that story. They were both

(01:05:42):
married to someone else, but they went to the concert
together and kiss cam came on and he hit his arms.
She was in front of him, his arms around her,
and here we are at Coldplay, middle aged boomer type.
Look about it. And then the camera came on them
and they behaved in the most suspicious way you could imagine. Subsequently,

(01:06:04):
the Internet did its job and they have become memes
and he's had to apologize to his staff. I don't
know what else is going to happen. Yeah, Marcus really
enjoyed Connie frances The music favored everybody. Somebody fall Lee.
I stopped chewing gum around y two k after a

(01:06:26):
ridden real magazine that most chewing gum products contain acetone. Ironically,
twice I was the only one attention at high school
for chee gum and class. The other seven students on
attention were smokers. Do you know how really sad is
to rock up to your school union with memories? And
I need to instrut to share. I need to find

(01:06:46):
out you're the only one left, Jade. I've never done
a school reunion and I don't think I'm likely to.

Speaker 3 (01:06:53):
I might go.

Speaker 2 (01:06:54):
I've got an intermediate school. I enjoyed that. Primary school
is all right as well. But yeah, I think the
only people that turn up for reunions are life insurance salespeople,
aren't they? Oh yeah, but do get in touch. You

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want to be a part of the show. My names Marcus.
Good evening and we are talking Connie Francis Big weekend
of Sport, the Phoenix, the All Blacks and the Southland
Sharks an increasing order of importance. Someone to talk about
the new onions. Anyone tried the new tearless onions. You
haven't seen them advertised anywhere, so you might have something

(01:07:38):
to say about that. Also also heard last night people
still in trouble with their Sky TV, with people coming
to fix it taking a long long time, and people
upset they're gonna have the rugby in the weekend because
the sky is on the blink. So all those are
things you can talk about tonight if you want to
be a part of it.

Speaker 11 (01:07:58):
Evening.

Speaker 2 (01:07:59):
Kate Marcus, Welcome.

Speaker 20 (01:08:02):
Hi Marcus, Hi Kate. I want to say something to
you about the Indian aircraft. I hadn't thought about I
followed it, I hadn't thought about it much until tonight
you started talking about it, and I thought, I hoped
they're not trying to blame the pilot, you know, in

(01:08:23):
case it was technical era and they're trying to say
that it was the first officer on his first flight.

Speaker 2 (01:08:32):
You know, yeah, I don't think it was his first flight.

Speaker 20 (01:08:35):
Wasn't well, I don't know it was.

Speaker 2 (01:08:38):
It was it was it was the older guy. It
was a captain who was a senior. He was a
guy that's reportedly turned the switches off.

Speaker 20 (01:08:46):
Oh and it was the first officer who stared on
the voice box. Right, I've turned off this?

Speaker 10 (01:08:52):
Yeah, okay, right, that's right?

Speaker 20 (01:08:54):
Could that be a I maybe that's over? You know
that they're using to say that the captain turned it off.

Speaker 12 (01:09:01):
I don't know from.

Speaker 2 (01:09:03):
What I get the feeling that if it's I've seen
air crash investigates that they can. They're so good at
what they do that when they come up with a finding,
it's always it always seems to be this is what happened.
There's never any room for era. They seem to be
very good at working because of the black box and everything.
They seem to be very good at working out exactly

(01:09:25):
what happened to planes. So I guess it'll be the
same situation here, surely.

Speaker 20 (01:09:29):
But it seems pretty crazy that he do that, doesn't it.

Speaker 2 (01:09:33):
Well, there's been two other instances with m H three
seven zero. Yeah, and there's been another plane that went
from Spain to Italy. I think where the.

Speaker 20 (01:09:46):
Also the pilot, remember that, the German pilot.

Speaker 5 (01:09:49):
I think.

Speaker 20 (01:09:52):
Yeah, into the class I think.

Speaker 2 (01:09:55):
It had left. I think it'd left from Spain. I
was looking up that the other night. It was called
German Wings flight nine to five two five from Barcelona
to Germany. The flight was The crash was deliberately caused
by the first officer, who had previously been treated for

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suicidal tendencies and declared unfit to work by his doctor.
He kept the information from his employer and instead reported
for duty. Shortly after reaching cruise altitude, and while the
captain was out of the cockpit, love Its locked the
cockpit door and set the plane to fly downward in
the controlled descent into a mountain. Must have been fairy

(01:10:36):
bad for the captain that was locked out. You'd feel
kind of helpless, wouldn't you.

Speaker 5 (01:10:40):
Yeah, terrible.

Speaker 20 (01:10:42):
So perhaps that is the Air India is a case
of that as well. That's what they're saying, you know,
the pressure, the god complex of all those lives that
they're you know, at their disposal, and it gets to them.
Maybe I don't know.

Speaker 2 (01:11:00):
I mean, look, I mean, obviously we don't often talk
about suicide for all sorts of reasons, but because the
media's is gonna be very careful abound it. Also because
of because you know, you don't want to legitimize it
in any way or make it sound like it's some
sort of an option. But I've never really heard of

(01:11:27):
any other area where people would try and in their
life and take other people with them. I've never heard
of that before. I mean, I guess you already do
it on a plane, but it's not something I've ever
I've never really experienced, So it's surprises. I can't work
up the psychology of it because you have to you
have you have to be you have to be vindictive
as well as depressed.

Speaker 20 (01:11:47):
Yes, but maybe it's that pilot then you know, God's context.
Like I say, They've got all those lives at their disposal,
a lot of power, and maybe it warps them in
some way. I don't know. Maybe it's a form of pressure,
or maybe.

Speaker 2 (01:12:05):
They feel they can do that and not have the
shame of having pineda suicide because I think it's just
a plane crest. They're not realizing or hoping that they
don't manage to investigate it.

Speaker 20 (01:12:15):
Yeah, and maybe it's like that awful thing you know
when you stand like on a cleft or something, even
as yourself and you think, oh my gosh, I'm going
to drump.

Speaker 2 (01:12:24):
You feel that pool that you feel that pool, that
that urged to do it?

Speaker 20 (01:12:28):
Yeah, yeah, so maybe it's that, you know, getting back
to that lady, was that Connie Francis that you were
talking about, correct, don't I don't know who. I love
the old singers. I don't know who, but to remember
a bed called the Chai Lights.

Speaker 5 (01:12:44):
How's it spelled from the first base.

Speaker 20 (01:12:46):
So I don't know if they're a motown, but they
were called the Chilights and Tony on the Sopranos on
the soundtrack they did a song and I don't know,
it's just reminds of that era, Connie Francs, all of that.
Google them the Chai Light.

Speaker 2 (01:13:02):
This c h A I c h I. Okay, ol
it is I shall. I appreciate that. Kate, thanks very
much for that thirteen past ten. If you want to
be a part of it, my name is Marcus. Welcome
get amongst at eight hundred and eighty ten eighty nine
nine detext Coddy Francis, the plane, the plane, the plane.

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Car washing anyone an obsessive car cleaner, it spends hours
detailing your car. No, it's become quite a big thing.
Because I've seen YouTube videos. Tell you know, it's a
big thing now because there's YouTube channels about it. I
sound like a pincher. I don't know. Chris is good evening.
It's Marcus.

Speaker 14 (01:13:43):
Welcome, Good evening, Marcus. I ran you when the Air
India crash was in discussion with the view that there
was an incorrect data in tree that may have caused
her And the reason for that is I never believed
it was a mechanical issue that caused the engines to fail,
that was induced by some human impop. Now what you

(01:14:05):
brought up, you meant that Silk air crash. That The
interesting thing about that crash there was a Kiwi copilot
on that.

Speaker 2 (01:14:12):
Oh I didn't mean that.

Speaker 14 (01:14:14):
Yeah, And Silki was a subsidiary of Singapore Airlines and
it was the first one that was ever reported, and
it was always believed it was a captain suicide. The
evidence pointed to that, but the Singaporean authority stared away
from it, So that was it was always considered a
cover up in the aviation world. That you made was it.

Speaker 2 (01:14:34):
Did they steer away from that because that would be
destabilizing on people's desire to fly, possibly.

Speaker 14 (01:14:39):
Lost faith in their base in their culture.

Speaker 2 (01:14:41):
Yeah, understands, yes, Yeah.

Speaker 14 (01:14:44):
Then the other one that they missed was there was
one about two thirteen two fourteen in Mozambique was an
EMBRL one ninety and that was clearly the same pilot
locked the co pilot out and in, but because it
was in Africa and et cetera, they said it didn't
get the attention it deserved to put systems in place
as to the crash that's already been the third two

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with the and Wings one, and of course there's the
Malaysian one. There was another one recent two or three
years ago supposed now in China were seven three, seven
eight hundred from crews. We just went straight into the
ground and all the indications were that it was pilot induced.
But the authorities never produced that one since there was

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no distress call, there was no break up in the
air and nothing like that at all. What's unique about
this one because of it in my opinion anyway, the
India is because of the systems that have been put
in place now to you know, you can't be in
the cockpit on your own and all these different things,
those procedures to reduce the risk of that when the

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engines the fuels were switched at that time, as it
was in a position where the aircraft just couldn't be
recovered and because it's too low and of course being
over a residential area, there was nowhere it could land.

Speaker 5 (01:15:58):
Et cetera.

Speaker 14 (01:15:59):
So that was the other other crashes that have been
referred to. This fact that you said silkire that really
made me prick uply.

Speaker 2 (01:16:08):
And so this is this is the first one. Is
it the pilot the first.

Speaker 14 (01:16:12):
One that I've ever read about knowing about. Yes, that's
the first one that sort of referred to, and there
was a lot of discussion.

Speaker 3 (01:16:18):
At the time.

Speaker 2 (01:16:18):
But this one's different, Chris, because both pilots from the
cockpit right, correct.

Speaker 14 (01:16:23):
Absolutely, that's probably the uniqueness of this one. And the
deliberateness of shutting and when you see where those there's
engine shutdown controls are, no hands should have been even
near them, and the takeoff procedure anyway, because you've got
no reason to be on that part of the your
hands to be around.

Speaker 2 (01:16:39):
That parts and it couldn't be Chris, are you a pilot?

Speaker 14 (01:16:43):
No?

Speaker 2 (01:16:43):
No, no, no, yeah, okay, do you follow what I
didn't understand during during a flight, do you switch those off?

Speaker 14 (01:16:54):
No, they stay on the only time you'd switch. That's
why they spring.

Speaker 7 (01:16:58):
The way they're loaded.

Speaker 14 (01:16:59):
The any time you didn't switch those off in flight
of you got an engine shut down, a bird strike,
get its cruise and shut fuel down, et cetera, or
that title engine fire procedure. Normally, if you have engine fire,
you'd pulled the extinguisher anyway, So that's the only time.

Speaker 2 (01:17:14):
That they're not a switch. Your jews three often at all.

Speaker 14 (01:17:18):
No, And the best way I could describe them as
if you've got your car, you've got your gear select lever,
You've got your as that could be your throttles, you've
got your handbrake, which would be your flap sort of thing,
and then you've got to reach further back for your
engine shutdown switcher, so your hands wouldn't be there and
in the takeoff. But a distinction where a crash did

(01:17:39):
occur because of the wrong levers occurred with that air.
The crash and the pool the ATR plane that was
coming into land and the pilot flying reached down to
go for get the flaps leaver, but he pulled the
he feathered the propellers and that's why that crass. That's
an example where you've got a crash cause by switches

(01:18:01):
or buttons and pulling the wrong lever so to.

Speaker 2 (01:18:03):
Speak, not the switch, did not the switches to the
tune for pump or do they just pinch the line?

Speaker 14 (01:18:08):
My understanding is are the engine fuel pumps?

Speaker 2 (01:18:11):
Okay, that's what that would makes sense to me my understanding.

Speaker 14 (01:18:15):
I'm not I'm not saying that's one hundred percent, but
but you switch them on the startup procedure and the
shut down procedure and basically you should never touch them
any other time in flight.

Speaker 2 (01:18:26):
What's the work around to stop people doing that?

Speaker 14 (01:18:30):
Wow? I don't think you can. There could be more
possibly profiling of pilots, but then that puts everyone in jeopardy.
Reports to mental health issue.

Speaker 2 (01:18:43):
Yes, and and and part As I said the other night,
I mean, pilot's been a pilot is probably a job
with quite high mental health demands, because you know, it's
a it's a disruptive way to live with where you're
living and hours and stuff like that. You know your
doing or rhythm is all gone. It's probably they probably
have got a high rate of people. I mean, there's

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there's even a fairly high rate of alcoholism amongst pilots.

Speaker 14 (01:19:10):
Yeah, yeah, there is that. But I think the only
if someone's going to do something, they're going to really
do it to think it out. But I said that
the earlier the preventive measures have been put in place,
that signific significantly minute the risk of no one could
be in the cockpit on their own. So therefore, if
you were going to the only opportunity basically to do
it was pull it in a position where they couldn't recover.

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And that's what that pilot did. Whereas if, for example,
it pulled the throttles back the you could have over
it that by pushing them straight forward again, but by
switching the engine, that by starving them a fuel. You
just couldn't start them at that lower, restart them at
that lower.

Speaker 2 (01:19:47):
And once it realized, once the guard realized and asked
them three times and turned them on, it was too late,
wasn't it That.

Speaker 14 (01:19:53):
Even if they turned them on immediately that that altitude,
you'd still be I think you'd still be struggling to
build the thrust up again, you know, the speed, because
you'd be bleeding off energy very quickly.

Speaker 2 (01:20:06):
So you're not all surprised by this, and this seems
to be the likely outcome, now, doesn't it.

Speaker 14 (01:20:11):
Well, as soon as I heard the engine, there's a
few things that have been switched off. It was just
immediately for me that was that was self induced crash.
And no question.

Speaker 2 (01:20:22):
Because even if you put a key on those locks,
you know, because it was the pilot, not the co pilot,
that was the one that was that brought the plane down.

Speaker 7 (01:20:30):
Yeah.

Speaker 14 (01:20:30):
Again interesting. What's interesting about when you think about all
those crashes except except for the German Wings one, he
was the co pilot. All the others have basically been
older captains.

Speaker 2 (01:20:42):
Yeah.

Speaker 14 (01:20:44):
I don't know the China one. I referred to it
because of very little was reported on that, but all
of them being old, older captains.

Speaker 2 (01:20:50):
Basically very interesting. I appreciate you coming through about that, Chris,
thank you. I only talked about those people about pilots
with drinking is because they have because people don't want
to have lose faith in the airlines. They have their
own they have their own AA meetings called Birds of
a Feather. That's weird, isn't it. Why is it not
on the chase their own special club for drunk pilots.

(01:21:12):
I don't think they've got those in New Zealand. Twenty
seven past ten. Good evening, Mike, it's Marcus. Welcome.

Speaker 10 (01:21:19):
I are you, Marcus?

Speaker 2 (01:21:20):
You're good, Mike?

Speaker 10 (01:21:22):
Yeah? Good.

Speaker 7 (01:21:22):
Hey.

Speaker 10 (01:21:23):
Look those fuel switches on the throttle quadrant in that
aircraft right the the Dreamliner yep, all right now they
are back behind the thrust reverse leavers right yep, landing,
So you would actually have to go down there with

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a hand and switch them off.

Speaker 2 (01:21:49):
Yes, where do you say down there? How you're still
still You're still in your seat? Are you?

Speaker 12 (01:21:54):
Yeah?

Speaker 3 (01:21:55):
Yeah?

Speaker 10 (01:21:55):
Okay, Yeah, it's just incredible. I mean I've flyn A
T and three seven eight hundred on about twelve fourteen flights, and.

Speaker 14 (01:22:09):
No, you.

Speaker 10 (01:22:13):
You just cannot mistake it. You have to physically know
where it is. Go down there.

Speaker 2 (01:22:22):
Are they accessible from both the pilot and the co pilot?

Speaker 10 (01:22:25):
Absolutely, because the thortle quadrant is between both of them. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:22:32):
When you say where you say throttle quadrant, I don't
quite know what that. I'm not obviously not a pilot.

Speaker 10 (01:22:37):
But okay, put yourself in your car right now, to
your left. You will have that center console. Yes, it
runs down right. You've got maybe it's a guest stiction
lever or whatever, but there is the throttles and it's

(01:22:57):
called quadrant. Okay, And so you're oh.

Speaker 2 (01:23:04):
I'm looking I'm looking at them. I'm looking at it. Now,
what are the two red buttons on?

Speaker 14 (01:23:09):
Huh.

Speaker 2 (01:23:10):
You've got the two fuel fuel buttons and the left
of those are two red buttons.

Speaker 10 (01:23:16):
Probably, I don't know. Okay, Okay, so mentioned two levers
which you can push forward, pull back right, yeah, okay.
Now below them is the reverse thrust leavers which pull
up ye, okay once you landed. Okay. Below them is

(01:23:40):
your fuel cut off.

Speaker 2 (01:23:42):
And to the left of those to the left as
you cut out to the left of the two fuel switches.

Speaker 10 (01:23:52):
To the left to the lest of them, probably nothing,
I don't know. Maybe it's the radio panel.

Speaker 2 (01:24:00):
I'm not okay, I look at the thing. But thank you.
Nice to talk to you, Mike. I appreciate you coming
through that Wisdom twelve pen with over south half past
in Nina headlines. Please, Marcus, can we take a breath.
There's some good work on the plane crest. Actually, the
fuel switches were possibly turned off by a technical fault.
It's not one hundred percent pilot it, Tomandy, I haven't
seen any speculation about that. All I've seen is from

(01:24:22):
the Washington the Wall Street Journal, I think it was.
That was all about the flight recording and him saying
did you turn off? Did you turn it off? And
going into the pilot's depression. But we will get a
more fulsome explanation in time. The families aren't happy with

(01:24:43):
that explanation, of course, Diane. It's Marcus good Evening.

Speaker 5 (01:24:52):
Yes, I'm just going to say I've got no radiation experience.
But on television about two weeks ago, they had some
a mediator of some sort and he was in the
flight simulator and he showed exactly what you have to

(01:25:14):
do to move those and like you know when you're
pulling the old the old oh what do you call
lawn mowers? Yes, when you put your forefinger in your
middle finger and pull it up, Yes, like a toggle up.

(01:25:35):
You had to do that and then pull it down.
It wasn't just a plush down movement. And this was
a crash investigator or something like that, and he showed
you what you had to do to move those levers.
And it's not just a you might have been able

(01:25:56):
to bump them, and there's no way bumping with that
deliberate move.

Speaker 2 (01:26:03):
Okay, yeah, yeah, would have been a lot of.

Speaker 5 (01:26:07):
Other people seen for someone news.

Speaker 18 (01:26:09):
On the.

Speaker 2 (01:26:13):
Thanks appreciate that, Thanks very much. Twenty seven away from
eleven Pollo jackets, Marcus, Welcome, Hi there.

Speaker 17 (01:26:20):
I just wanted to clarify a couple of things about
that Air India fight, if I may.

Speaker 16 (01:26:28):
So, just a couple of things.

Speaker 17 (01:26:33):
So I've I've watched a few of the breakdowns of
the events that took place, and also just general other
air crash investigation documentaries that sort of given me an
above average understanding of planes in general, I guess.

Speaker 16 (01:26:51):
You could say. And as far as those switches.

Speaker 17 (01:26:55):
So they are the they close, they open and close
the fuel valves to the engine, so the fuel pumps
are step prett there are on the on the ceiling
and basically those switches close the valve which starves the
engine of fuel. Now, the reason that that particular point

(01:27:20):
in the flight would have been chosen, as far as
I'm aware, is because it is actually a perfect time
to sabotage the flight because it's it's what's.

Speaker 16 (01:27:31):
Deemed as a critical phase of.

Speaker 17 (01:27:33):
Flight, meaning that if you're that low and you're trying
to climb suddenly losing engine power is pretty is pretty
serious obviously, And it's sort of like you could imagine
you're driving along a road as in your the plane

(01:27:54):
barreling down the runway, and at the end of the
road there's a you know, there's a hell which you
could say is taking off. Now, say just as you're
barreling down that road and you come up that hell
and then you switch the engine off, You're really not
going to be continuing up that hill for long until
you start sewing right the way down and then when

(01:28:18):
you lose enough hair speed, and that's when the plane
falls out of the sky.

Speaker 16 (01:28:24):
And yeah, those switches, there's no real way.

Speaker 17 (01:28:27):
There's a lot of people speculating about, you know, the
potential for that to be an accident. But they they
I don't know if this has been talked about before,
but they have a they have a d tent to them.
And what I mean by that, it's not like a
light switch. It doesn't just slick up or down. It's

(01:28:47):
a it's a very intentional action of pulling up and
then back and then releasing. So it's yeah, as I say,
you don't just flick it. It has to be called
up and then moved either fords or back for on
an i.

Speaker 2 (01:29:06):
So jeck, I imagine there's probably a pre flight check
where you go through and if you make sure that
those are both on, you'd be doing everything like that,
wouldn't you.

Speaker 16 (01:29:17):
Yeah, So the engines, the engines will not start without
them on.

Speaker 17 (01:29:24):
So when when the pilots, I don't know how often
you fly, but you know, obviously when the pilots come
into the taxi into the gate and they stop. Pretty
much immediately after the plane comes to a stop, the
engines start shutting down. And that's because those fuel switches
have been turned off, and that's how they shut the

(01:29:45):
engines down.

Speaker 16 (01:29:47):
And to start the engines, they put the they.

Speaker 17 (01:29:52):
Turn a little dial normally, which puts the engines into
you know, the start mode, and then they'll flick those
things on, those switches on to introduce fuel into the
engines and then they'll start. So they are switched on
to start the engines and then off to stop the engines.
So yeah, they are, but otherwise they remain untouched. And

(01:30:17):
the only time you would touch them is say you
have an engine fire or one of the engines is
having trouble, you would turn that affected engine off, and
that's confirmed by both pilots that that is the correct
engine to turn off. You'll let it turn off and
then you'll turn it back on, and that effectively resets well. Obviously,

(01:30:41):
if it's on fire, you wouldn't turn it back on,
but otherwise, of it just wasn't functioning properly, you'd turn
it off. That would reset that engine, and then you
turn it back on. And if you're in the air,
the plane knows you're flying, as opposed to on the ground,
it uses a different logic once you're off the ground,
and once you slip that switch back on, and the

(01:31:03):
event of an engine ish when you're trying to reset it,
it'll automatically just try and restart that engine the second
you flip that switchback on. And yeah, I think from
noticing that the switches were put to cut off and
then asking the other pilot why he did that, I
think it oh or sorry. From the plane losing engine

(01:31:25):
power to the pilot noticing that it was losing engine power,
I think it only took him about ten seconds to
figure out what it was now. Ten seconds is when
you have this much going on, especially in a critical
phase of the flight. Ten seconds wasn't fast enough, but
it was pretty remarkably quick of how quickly he managed

(01:31:50):
to identify why suddenly the engines are just not producing
any thrust, which is something I imagine they would have
never experienced before.

Speaker 2 (01:32:02):
Jack, Thank you for that. You obviously know a lot
about that. Are you in volved with discussions? Have people
speculated this a while ago? Has this been something that
before this reporter has come out that people have suspected
was the reason?

Speaker 17 (01:32:17):
So a lot of people suspected, and I think it
was talked about. I think it might have been a
week or a couple of weeks ago on this show.
People were saying, oh, it doesn't look like the flaps
were out properly.

Speaker 2 (01:32:30):
They got the flakes confused with the wheels and something
that was the initial thing.

Speaker 17 (01:32:34):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, and that those were those were fair speculations,
to be honest, because I mean, you don't you just
don't know, and you your sort of you would you
would be pretty quick to dismiss intentional sabotage of the flight.

Speaker 5 (01:32:54):
But yeah, I.

Speaker 17 (01:32:56):
Mean, as it turns out, that's the most likely case,
and yeah, it's extremely unlikely that there is any sort
of fault with the plane.

Speaker 16 (01:33:05):
And as far as a.

Speaker 17 (01:33:07):
Lot of pilots who there's a lot of pilots that
actually also have YouTube channels and have been discussing it,
and as far as pretty much all of them are aware,
the plane was functioning exactly is designed and those switches
were stepped to the off position by a human being.

Speaker 16 (01:33:26):
But yeah, no, there was a lot of speculation going on.

Speaker 2 (01:33:29):
How would have he done it? Would have he just
slipped his hand down quite covertly and quietly turned them off?

Speaker 17 (01:33:35):
Yeah, yeah, I mean it's certainly possible. And then for
the other pilot.

Speaker 2 (01:33:38):
Who was he was the other pilot was quite was
busy at the time, wasn't he was?

Speaker 17 (01:33:45):
Yeah, exactly. He's in a critical phase of flight. He's
probably just taken off and he's focusing on his instruments
and his controls in front of him, and then suddenly
both engines stopped producing thrust and the plane starts losing speed,
and then in a matter of ten seconds, that's all
it took him to notice exactly what it was. But yeah, again,

(01:34:10):
it was It's pretty remarkable how quickly he noticed, but
it still obviously wasn't quick enough, and there were there
were reports. So in the report, the preliminary report, it
was clear that when the plane crashed, that whole center
console sort of area with those switches on it, the
plane was actually found or the damaged bits of interior

(01:34:33):
of the plane were found with those switches set back
to run. And that's consistent with the flight data recorder
because basically, yeah, the pilot did notice, the other pilot
who didn't sabotage it, noticed what had happened, switched them
back to run, and the engines did actually start spooling

(01:34:54):
back up, but they just didn't have quite enough time
to produce thrust to get the plane out of the
the inevitable crash that it was that it was falling into.
But yeah, I think most of that speculation sort of
started becoming a bit more accurate when they realized as
the plane came past the camera on some of those

(01:35:14):
videos it sounded like a propeller plane. It didn't sound right,
and that's because in the event of a duel engine
failure mid flight, is this little fan essentially that just
pops out from under the plane cause the ram air turbine,
and in the.

Speaker 16 (01:35:32):
Event of a.

Speaker 17 (01:35:36):
You know, a serious loss of power or a serious
loss of engine power, that little thing will pop out
and just give the plane critical electricity because it just
spins sort of in the wind and produces electricity for
the plane, and it will at least make the plane controllable.
It obviously doesn't provide any thrust, It doesn't help the

(01:35:56):
plane accelerate or anything, but it just gives it power.
And in the event of those fuel cutoff switches being
placed in cutoff as opposed to run that ram me,
a turbine will deploy.

Speaker 16 (01:36:11):
And that's consistent with.

Speaker 17 (01:36:12):
The video and the audio and the video you can
hear it as it comes past. It just sort of
sounds a bit like a lawn mower, doesn't sound like
a big, substantial jet. And that's because that's that little
fan spinning to try and provide electricity to the plane.
Because it's noticed that the engines have been put to
cut off. And yeah, and as I said, it cannot

(01:36:34):
be done accidentally. You can't just knock it. They won't
vibrate out of place. It is a conscious action. And
yet it's sort of if you've heard this before, someone
was explaining it. Where your airshift would be in your car.
That's where the throttle is. You move that up and
down almost like a boat throttle with your hands. And

(01:36:57):
then just behind that, just where the sort of maybe
your arm rest would be in your car. Just behind that,
that's where those two switches are. And they have to
be intentionally deliberately pulled up and then back and then
let go into their place.

Speaker 16 (01:37:13):
They have to that.

Speaker 17 (01:37:14):
You can't just nudge them. You have to pull them
up first for before their move. So it's a very
intentional act. And I think it's pretty clear what what
has happened.

Speaker 2 (01:37:28):
Ilive it there, Jack, But thank you so much that
that's an enormous information to thank you. Appreciate that a
great deal. Thirteen to eleven Dave Marcus, Hello, eight six.

Speaker 3 (01:37:37):
Years at eighteen four. They just revedos just scored. But
I'm on square open.

Speaker 2 (01:37:41):
It's not far behind, about two minutes behind it.

Speaker 3 (01:37:46):
Okay, hey, washing the car. I'm a bit of a
obsessive than about washing my car. But Marcus has got
to be with turtle wash and wax with a sponge
and bucket and up the driveway so that you can
shame me it afterwards, and I take quite a lot
of what would I enjoy? And quite I take a

(01:38:12):
little bit of time over it. I find it satisfying.
But as I say, I would never go to one
of those one of those rubber dub places and pay
money to do it. I take take a little bit
of time over it.

Speaker 2 (01:38:27):
You know, how do you whether you're set up? How
do you clean? Underneath it?

Speaker 13 (01:38:33):
Oh?

Speaker 3 (01:38:34):
Getting the web but even advanced for me? Goodness me?
Underneath what the car?

Speaker 2 (01:38:38):
Yeah?

Speaker 3 (01:38:39):
Oh no, I don't have a rampurse, so I don't
put it on.

Speaker 8 (01:38:43):
No.

Speaker 3 (01:38:44):
Here do you mean underneath it? Macus? You're getting the
way of the carried away? Theress?

Speaker 7 (01:38:47):
Well?

Speaker 2 (01:38:47):
You know to click. Well, I suppose it's not full
of mud and stuff. It's not a ut. But to
get you know, under the chessis.

Speaker 3 (01:38:54):
No, mine's a sedanagana. I wouldn't put under the youth.

Speaker 2 (01:39:00):
Did you do it every week?

Speaker 14 (01:39:02):
Well?

Speaker 3 (01:39:03):
I certainly do when it starts looking a little bit,
when it needs doing. You know, I live by the ocean.
I live by the s right in here, and it
does get a little bit, you.

Speaker 7 (01:39:15):
Know what I call it.

Speaker 3 (01:39:16):
I'm not dusty, but that sea smoggy where it does needed.
It just looks the paint. What it is for me
is that I like the paint to be grinting, and
I like it to look clean. And I what sort
of car is it missing fugre Oh yeah, yeah he's

(01:39:37):
nicer then. And yeah, I just I find it quite satisfying. Marcus.

Speaker 2 (01:39:45):
The turtle wax is at the at the end. Then
you got the shemis.

Speaker 10 (01:39:48):
Right, Yes, the washing wacks.

Speaker 3 (01:39:50):
Now it's going to be the washing wacks. So I
find that with its spun with a rather large sponge.

Speaker 2 (01:39:55):
Does it take an hour?

Speaker 3 (01:39:57):
Yeah, to take an hour, mate, Yeah? Yeah. I start
with the top, start with the top, and work your
way down both sides and then the bonnet. And I
quite I like the bonnet to be glinting, you know.
I take someone always said I'm going to rub the
paint off that, you know, one time. But hey, Marcus,
I have said middle Peace on Captain Dan Grider and

(01:40:19):
Captain Steve on their report that they that this business
with the Indian Airlines, that the first officer who was
with that plane that knows up attitude would only have
noticed that it his peripheral vision. He would have heard

(01:40:40):
the engines throttle down from takeoff trust and he would
have noticed the captain that met bloke sitting on the
left hand side having done what he did, and one
second apart both engines set to cut off, and then

(01:41:02):
it was about ten seconds later the maxim white that
plane and reached was three hundred feet doing one hundred
and fifty knots, and it took about only ten seconds
later and there was a four second interval from both
engines Engine one and then Engine two, four seconds apart
being set back to run. But at that height one

(01:41:25):
of the engines almost got back up to providing enough thrust,
but at only three hundred feet, Yeah, I think the
end was nigh. And he did ask what did you.

Speaker 2 (01:41:38):
Get bored for a miserable thing to do?

Speaker 3 (01:41:41):
Absolutely? Yeah, yeah. But the other thing that got me,
Marke is the most when I see that aircrash investigation,
was that I believe it was the German German fellow
who locked the other captain out of the with the door,
locked them out and descended into a mountain side and

(01:42:02):
killed everyone on board. That would be And all they
could hear on the recording was that bloke breathing he
was doing that deliberately and goodness me, yeah, that's that's
a miserable thing to do, mate, trichy and killing those
people want to try.

Speaker 2 (01:42:20):
To take other people out with you. It seems weird.

Speaker 3 (01:42:24):
Well, mate, they're not thinking in their right mind, are they?
And you see the thing that Captain Grider mentioned was
a psychologist has been included in the investigation as.

Speaker 2 (01:42:38):
To sorry is Captain Grider? Is Captain Grider? What got
a YouTube? Is he a YouTuber?

Speaker 7 (01:42:45):
Yes?

Speaker 3 (01:42:46):
He also commented along inside with Captain Steve, and he
has point. He agrees wholeheartedly with Captain Steve. He's a
seven eight seven pilot and experienced man. Is the psyche
the thinking behind what opposed the Indian culture that is

(01:43:09):
opposed to suicide. And he tried to look like either
blame the first officer and not look like it was intentional.
That's the way it's looking to him and the way
he's explained it. I hon care absolutely that is it?

Speaker 2 (01:43:33):
Is it quite a good channel to watch.

Speaker 3 (01:43:34):
Dave, It is, mate, It is interesting.

Speaker 2 (01:43:37):
You've got pretty good recal of it. And I'm amazed
how much people know about planes. I mean, the something
called to her to have been amazing on it.

Speaker 3 (01:43:45):
Well, it is an interesting subject to me anyhow, And
I thought I had been watching everything I can and
absorbing it. And as I say, I make up my
own mind. But these two guys are very well respected
captains of aircraft and lovely Boeing seven eight seven And.

Speaker 2 (01:44:06):
What have you nice to hear from you day? Thanks
so much, have a good week in fourteen past eleven. Oh,
by the way, who do you think is the national
anthem for Hamilton? They've all been poor, I thought, But
I don't get the stars like they used to. They're
kind of throwing it away a bit. But yes, Hamilton,
we don't know where the where the French staying. Have
we worked that out yet? Much was made of the

(01:44:29):
not staying in Hamilton, but now we don't know where
they are. Once upon a time we would have known
that the reporters would have been around there or something.
You would have seen them around about town, have you anyway?
I haven't caught up with that. We're get in touch
the plain Connie Francis, karaoke, anything else you want to

(01:44:52):
talk about tonight? You might have been the Samoa Scotland match. Also,
I was curious to know how many people attend to that.
It's a shame it wasn't closer. Sport's great if it's close.
I always think the most important thing about sport is
it's not decided to write till the end. Otherwise it's

(01:45:15):
just a procession. Good evening, Trevor. It's Marcus, Welcome.

Speaker 7 (01:45:22):
How you do. Good, Thank you first time, Paul, listening
to you for years. Thanks forringing, just for gover your
India into I've been listening to your callers on tonight
and we've got that ringing up before the news really
knew what he's talking about. He was quite knowledgeable. I've
actually got a Bowing seven seven simulator in my carriage

(01:45:44):
which I've been flying for the last three years, so
this thing's really quite interesting to me. And well, one
thing that no one's that she talked about, and I've
been listening watching the Captain Steve things on YouTube and
lots and lots of youtubes on it, nobody's talked about
the positioning of the hands for the pilots. There are
two scenarios with the pilots. They can have the pilot

(01:46:06):
for the pilot flying, which means the first officer's pilot monitoring.
Then you can have the first officer pilot flying, and
then that means the captain is pilot monitoring. So the
hand movements are very very different. When the pilots flying,
he has the left hand when they take it off,

(01:46:27):
he has left hand on the steering yoke and the
right hand of the throttles advances the shroffles to take
off when they and their hands stays on the throttle
until they take off. Because the captain is the only
one that can actually initiate a rejected takeoffs, his hand
stays on that throttle until they take off. Then he's

(01:46:51):
both hands in the yoke, commands the first to the
lifted gear, and then the first officer lift the flat
and the flat weavers and the gear he was on
his stop on the first officer side of the plane.
When the when the first officer is pilot flying, it
all changes. So when't the first officer is flying the
plane and the captain is pilot monitoring, the captain is

(01:47:17):
still the only one that can reject the takeoff. So
when they do advance of throttles the takeoff, the first
officer will do that. Then he will take his hand
off the throttle. Two hands on the steering YopE, and
the pilot takes over the throttle. Okay, let's get to
what's called rotate, which they pile up and then the
pilot will remove his hand from the from the throttles

(01:47:41):
because the point of projector take up has passed. He
will call the first officer will call gear up, so
the pilot will reach across to the first office ciders
to gear up, and then he will reach across the
path the first officer again and he operates the flats,
so his hands are moving across the throttle quadrant near

(01:48:04):
loads fuel cutoffs, which is twice okay, very close. No
one's mentioned that yet. That's relevant fact because his hands
are going across, not saying he could he didn't he
knock them, but the first officer would have seen those
hands across his side of the throttle quadrant two occasions,
once to lift the gear up and once when he

(01:48:26):
says he's taking his hands off the throttle, so he
would have seen his hands. What it wouldn't have been
unexpected to see is the pilot's hands on the right
hand side of the throttle quadrant. The throttles are.

Speaker 2 (01:48:39):
Is what triv Just to clarify what you're saying is
because his hands were over there, that made it easier
for him to turn the pumps off without the other
guy noticing. Is that what you're alluding to, Well.

Speaker 7 (01:48:49):
It could have been. The first officer would have seen
him with peripheral vision his hands disappearing back to the
pilot's side. So yeah, he obviously saw it pretty quickly
because it was only a matter of seconds. So you
saw and said, well what the said, why did you
do that? Why did you cut off? And he said
he didn't. So it wasn't evers of the pilot's hands
to be over the side of the squad of quadrants.

(01:49:11):
So yeah, no one's mentioned that yet. The position in
the hands very important fact.

Speaker 2 (01:49:15):
That would your simulator, that's what you call it. A
flights are there?

Speaker 3 (01:49:19):
Yep?

Speaker 2 (01:49:20):
How does it cope with just one person? Is it
designed for just one person or an adjustment or do
you do both roles?

Speaker 9 (01:49:27):
Well?

Speaker 7 (01:49:27):
I do bit of must be flying the south and
where I'm trying from the passenger to the captain's side, I
have to reach across to the right hand side of
the throttle quadron to aim list the gear and then
be put the flats off. Or on or whatever. My
craft switches on mine. The seven three sevens are. They're

(01:49:47):
little levers and they've got quite a they've got about
a seventy five to eighty milimeter leg from cut off
to the idol or they call it idol and the
seven three sevens that's run on the seven eight sevens,
whereas the seven eighty seven and the triple sevens and
more modern ones have it's just a switch, but they

(01:50:07):
still has a detense, so it still has to go
past a little a detent which a little bridge to
stop it being knocked up and down. You still have
to pullet lifted up and then let it go to
the spring loads. It's it's you couldn't knock it. It
couldn't knock them accidentally.

Speaker 2 (01:50:21):
Does the pilot does the captain always sit on the right.

Speaker 7 (01:50:26):
The captain's always in left American style. The captain's always
in the left and.

Speaker 2 (01:50:32):
Right back and flying high looking forward here on the left. Okay,
makes sense, yep.

Speaker 7 (01:50:36):
Ye, But they're the first at the right handside. Can
be part of trying which he controls the takeoff that
the pilot is the only one that can actually call
a rejected takeoff. So he has his hands on the
throttles right down the runway until they rotate.

Speaker 2 (01:50:54):
Have you have you tried your flight simulator? Have you
tried that airport and that takeoff?

Speaker 7 (01:51:01):
I have?

Speaker 2 (01:51:02):
That's bad? You feel bad? Do you feel bad? Do
you feel do you feel bad?

Speaker 7 (01:51:06):
Saying? I had a couple of fans up from the
new hung a crotchets and I said, let's do it.
So we set up at that airport and I just
set the computer full of fuel, four passengers and full
of freight, and I thought, we'll see what happened. So
we took off, so the plane was heavy, exactly what

(01:51:26):
the triples that seven eighty seven was, and got in
the runway, rotated, and I pulled the throtles back to
idle and we got up about four hundred feet and
just came down exactly got that one did.

Speaker 2 (01:51:37):
So you didn't physically turn the fuel off?

Speaker 7 (01:51:40):
No, No, I just about that stage. At that stage
the fuel sources were initially this was about three weeks ago,
and that information wasn't out there. So pulled in the
troubles back to idle was pretty much the same. Yeah,
so that information.

Speaker 2 (01:51:52):
Wasn't Did you did you hit that as a detailed
enough to show you what building you hit it was.

Speaker 7 (01:51:56):
It's just it's just computer generating buildings. But if I
didn't go far, Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:52:02):
I imagine there's people on flights and lads all around
the world that I have done the same thing you
have done, just to see what Actually, I guess that's
just kind of what people do withn't it.

Speaker 7 (01:52:09):
Guarantee it yep, I guarantee it yep. But in the
sense so I'll see what comes out of that one.

Speaker 2 (01:52:14):
But just been a lot of just been a lot
of time. I mean, it's a great hobby, is it?

Speaker 7 (01:52:19):
Oh? Absolutely, absolutely, very expensive one, but the great hobby.
And I'll be flying from two and a half years now.
Took about three years to get it built in the
first fight, and they're still building. It's still adding, but
some peacement not very enjoyable.

Speaker 2 (01:52:33):
Has the expense the software of the flying modules or
the hardware.

Speaker 7 (01:52:39):
It's it's both the theF and the hardware is probably
the more expensive side of it. But you know, in
my mind, as an actual seven three seven cockpit and
has been cut down and built the inside of it.
So it's a few of them around, is there two
of the three of them. Christ Here is the company
in christi Its actually builds them and ships them around
the world.

Speaker 2 (01:52:57):
And when you say it's it's it's a replica of
the in tiar of a copper right.

Speaker 7 (01:53:03):
The outside of copper is enuine and the inside it's
all hard had we were built for simulated some of
its original parts, but most of it's all that specifically
built for similators.

Speaker 2 (01:53:17):
And it'd take your whole garage to fit in with.

Speaker 7 (01:53:19):
It's about it's only your three K carriers. That takes
up one of them, and it's about five minutes of
line and three predictors on the screen, so we would
have were okay.

Speaker 2 (01:53:33):
And the are the ones that plots themselves train on.
Are they with that software they can.

Speaker 7 (01:53:38):
To the year? Yeah, you know there's that. Mike Perro
has got one in Crysis, a commercial operation and he
uses it for trains for the training pilots and things.
So that's an interesting hobby.

Speaker 3 (01:53:49):
Oh.

Speaker 7 (01:53:49):
I found that there's a lot of there's a lot
of stuff online. I've been watching stuff on you ever
since the accident, and quite honest, eighty percent of was
just rubbish. They're just people speculating and actually had people
aggling with the airline pilots online about what they knew
and what they thought they knew. So it was as
an innocent case.

Speaker 2 (01:54:12):
And would the sky Steve Right pilot Steve Ye does
he just is he just sitting in a room talking
to the cameras at the way or he's a simulator.

Speaker 7 (01:54:22):
You know, he's sitting I mean he flies a triple seven,
So he is a really good blog. And I watched
another one online called Mentor Pilot, who was a Dutch guy.
He's a doing seven three seven pilot and they that's
a second dreamcome for them, and they just set up
their own channel and they talk about things and they
have a huge following of people. And you said before

(01:54:45):
about people know a lot about planes because they watch
YouTube and these guys instruct people how to how to
fly these planes. And that's where I've got a lot
of my flying experience from watching those those those blogs
on YouTube because they're just so informitive. So there is
a lot of information out there now. That's why there's
so many experts.

Speaker 2 (01:55:01):
Around really interested to talk to you. Trevor. Thank you immensely.
It's great, good evening, Martin. That's Marcus.

Speaker 13 (01:55:07):
Hello, Ahi Marcus.

Speaker 2 (01:55:09):
So are you you're good man and yourself?

Speaker 13 (01:55:11):
Yeah, very well, thank you.

Speaker 12 (01:55:14):
Yeah.

Speaker 13 (01:55:15):
Cleaning cars. I used to be a car groomer. Oh wow, yep,
And I clean my cars. I've got three cars at
home here and I clean them every Sunday because they
gather a lot of dust even though they're in the garage.
I have one car outside and two cars in the garage,

(01:55:39):
so they get covered in dust. So yeah, every Sunday.
And I have a steam cleaner come water blaster to say,
I can do underneath the guards and everywhere. So if
you get any dirt off the road with them doing
roadworks running that's cement stuff. Sometimes it's on the underneath,

(01:56:00):
I can clean it all off.

Speaker 2 (01:56:04):
Is it a big ordeal the three cars on a Sunday?
Is it a couple of hours?

Speaker 12 (01:56:09):
Yeah?

Speaker 13 (01:56:09):
Probably, yeah, well most of the morning because I like
to do it before the the sun gets too hot,
Otherwise when you're washing the car and the sun gets
all streaky. Yeah, so yeah, I do them like maybe
seven o'clock, eight o'clock in the morning and showing them
all down and then put them back in the garage.

Speaker 2 (01:56:32):
And when you say shammy, that's that's just polishing with
that cloth, right, that's what that is.

Speaker 13 (01:56:36):
No, that's just the clock to take the water off. Okay,
I don't use I don't use any wax. It's just
the car polish, the car wash that I use as
the wax in it. So when you finish washing it,
you show me it down. It's a nice shine.

Speaker 2 (01:56:53):
That's not you. Is it in your unit or you
just apply that by hand.

Speaker 13 (01:56:57):
The detergent now, I use it with a sponge.

Speaker 2 (01:57:01):
Okay, And what's what's your product you use?

Speaker 13 (01:57:05):
Oh? I use the there's that other guy was saying
the turtle wax.

Speaker 2 (01:57:09):
Yep.

Speaker 13 (01:57:09):
Sure, and but there's plenty of others. But I find
it gives a nice finish when it's all done.

Speaker 2 (01:57:18):
And some of those cars you would have driven all
week either would you just got to do them anyway
because they get dust.

Speaker 7 (01:57:23):
Right, that's right.

Speaker 13 (01:57:24):
We've got one car we use every day and the
other two cars ones a seventy five Beetle and the
other one's Alpha Romeo. I bought about three months ago.

Speaker 2 (01:57:35):
What color is the beetle.

Speaker 13 (01:57:38):
Martini olive? The drive Well, oh yeah, we've had that
twenty seven years.

Speaker 2 (01:57:44):
Now you're seeing fewer and few of them on the
roads now, aren't you.

Speaker 3 (01:57:50):
We are.

Speaker 13 (01:57:51):
But as I said, every year at Easter we have
VEDAB Nationals all over New Zealand and we go to that.
It's over the Easter weekend and there everybody comes out.

Speaker 2 (01:58:04):
Would you have any idea how many cars be left?

Speaker 13 (01:58:08):
Well, well, I said, we've got quite a few clubs
in the North Island, quite a few clubs down south.
Ah well, Combi's and Beatles and camon Gears.

Speaker 2 (01:58:21):
Of course yours too.

Speaker 7 (01:58:23):
Ye.

Speaker 13 (01:58:24):
Yeah, well I said, you probably have h yeah, you'd
have thousands, you really really Okay.

Speaker 2 (01:58:30):
I just wanted were the people were selling the the
Combe's and the Volkswagens like to collectors in Japan or America.
I wonder if there was they were exporting them because
they're so sought after.

Speaker 13 (01:58:42):
Oh well, I know one guy many years ago he
sold his beetle to a guy in Japan.

Speaker 7 (01:58:49):
Yeah.

Speaker 13 (01:58:50):
But most of the people that we catch up with
when we go to the VW Nationals, yeah, they've had
them for years. As I said, we've had here is
twenty seven years. And ah, as I'm saying, it doesn't
go out that often. But as I said, every Easter
we go to the nationals wherever they are and we

(01:59:11):
have we have a great time.

Speaker 2 (01:59:14):
No troubles getting there in the car. It goes well,
No car.

Speaker 13 (01:59:18):
Goes really well.

Speaker 3 (01:59:19):
Yep.

Speaker 13 (01:59:20):
It gets an all change once a year before we go, and.

Speaker 2 (01:59:23):
You probably polish it. You probably wash it when you're
up there as well, do you before you get there?

Speaker 12 (01:59:27):
Well?

Speaker 13 (01:59:27):
Yeah, well we have the show and shine on the Saturday,
so this place that we can take our cars, wash
them down and then take them and people everybody comes
and has a look.

Speaker 2 (01:59:39):
I've got a question from a caller, Martin. What do
you use on the inside of the windscreen?

Speaker 13 (01:59:47):
Uh? I just use windling, okay, any any any glass cleaner.
But you've got the certain rags that you can use
for cleaning the windscreen inside and out. Okay, Because I

(02:00:08):
was a car groomor the guy that we used to
buy the pug self, he used to supplieres with a
cloth for doing the windows.

Speaker 7 (02:00:20):
Yep.

Speaker 13 (02:00:21):
But yeah, as I'm saying, you know, most things has
said you get a nice soft cloth microfiber'cloth that'll be windows.

Speaker 2 (02:00:34):
What's your round town carrabit. It's a Toyota or something,
is it?

Speaker 13 (02:00:38):
Uh? It's a tid to wrap four.

Speaker 2 (02:00:40):
Yeah, you would be a toota nice to talk Martin.

Speaker 1 (02:00:43):
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