I made a sheep shelter with mine (22 July 2025)

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Speaker 1 (00:07):
You're listening to the Marcus lush Night's podcast from news
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Speaker 2 (00:12):
A seven Critics Welcome on him. Is Marcus head or Midnight?
I hope it's good where you are, people. I hope
if it's not good by midnight, it's better. Let's go
for better. A oh, eight hundred and eighty ten eighty
nine de text. A few things to get through tonight.
I think we will go through them sequentially. First and foremost,

(00:35):
Ed Sheeran is playing.

Speaker 3 (00:38):
Now.

Speaker 2 (00:38):
For some of you, you'd want to go screaming from
the room, and others probably think it's the best concert
they've seen of all time the last time they were there,
and they'll be desperate to go and see him again anyway.
So he's on a way. He's on his way. There'll
be three shows in New Zealand, Auckland, Wellington, christ Church

(01:04):
and good on for doing all three. He will be
at Apollo hang On Apollo Projects Stadium in christ Church,
He'll be at go Media Stadium, Mount Smart and Auckland, Wellington.
I presume he'll be at the Caketon anyway. So what

(01:27):
is interesting in that with that, in that is that
ticket's going soun next week, so you might want to
go to that, but you probably want to book your tickets,
book your plane tickets first. I feel like a lot
of those people that fly from the regions to go there,
although the fact it's got three main centers.

Speaker 4 (01:40):
Yet.

Speaker 2 (01:41):
What I'm curious though, is you buy the tickets first,
or you buy your airline tickets first because you want
to be booking them tonight, wouldn't you. I'm thinking of
people in the Hawk's Bay people and fung and a
people in inv Caago, people in Duneda. That's what you
want to be doing. Well, I guess the Inficago people
will be driving there, so your thoughts about that? Are
you mad for that? Was he good enough last time

(02:01):
to be going again? Because that's one hundred and fifty
thousand tickets he'll be selling for that in the summer,
so the weather it would be good, although I imagine
at the christ which one I think it might be covered.
I'm uncertain about that. So if you do want to
comment on Ed Sharon, he's on his way. It's not
that far here, just five months ahead. So that's happening.
It's called the loop tour. And what do we know

(02:24):
about aage Sharon, no doubt to be someone on stage,
you'll get some kid on stage to sing with them.
I think he loves doing that. Probably gets six sixty
or something up there with him. Is that what he
did last time? Get in touch of your daughter to
talk about that. I'm curious to have those questions answered. Oh,
eight hundred and eighty ten eighty and nine two nine.
By the way, I've got Rugby on tonight too. First

(02:47):
Nation Spacifica I've never heard of. That starts teen bo.
I will keep you updated with that. But yeah, first,
I just want to my covering that thing off about
the ID, Sharon, I thought it was it was just
gonna be three concious in Auckland. But fair enough. He
is moving it around so you won't need to be
going everyone to Walkland. That's a good thing. But yeah,
it's probably something we're thinking about these days because logistics

(03:08):
in the air fees, it's so expensive you probably want
to get it sorted out. So anyway, that's something I
want to talk about tonight too. The other thing too,
Sky has bought TV three, so I presume that's more
free to wear sport. I hope so, because we've got
more channels to about five channels. Hopefully some of that
stuff will be dumped on there. By the way, Speaking

(03:28):
of sport, I watched on ESPN yesterday. I meant to
say that yesteray I watched the some games of flag
for football, which is American football without the contact. We
just run and if you want to tackle someone, you
a ribbon from the side of them. It was terrible.

(03:50):
I only mention that because that's a game that's going
to be at the Los Angeles Olympics. But yeah, you
you wouldn't want a cross the road to watch that.
That was terrible. I was surprised how bad that was. Anyway,
just putting that out there, but get in touch, you
want to talk. My name is Marcus. Welcome eight hundred
and eighty ten eighty and nine two nine two detext.
Just want to come that off with each year And
do you think it's worth going or do you think
he's past his prime? Do you think he's almost like

(04:13):
one of those people that's past their prime and not
going to become like Elton John are out and out
legend because with most of those pop stars, they go
through a wilderness period until they come back later on
and he's not even at that wilderness period. He's just
kind of in between periods. So yeah, let me know
if you think he's gonna be worthwhile. And now are
you booking your flights and your hotel and your tickets

(04:34):
as we speak. I'd be curious to know about that,
because I don't know who's coming next summer. It's going
to be a busy time for concerts or not, so
you might want to mention that. I will keep you
updated with the news about the next four hours too.
If you've got news happening where you are, let me
know what that is. Yeah, so yeah, we'll be all

(04:57):
over the miss all over the breaking news PLO now
and SI now in midnight. I think that's what I end.
Goodness me, what a start. Anyway, A one hundred and
eighty ten eighty nineteen nineteen text you want to come through,
I'd be lovely to hear from you. Anything else you
want to mention also tonight, looking for to hearing from you.
By the way, here's something I was surprised to read.

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A third of United States video gamers are people over fifty.
So yes, seniors are playing video games. If you are
someone that's over fifty playing video games. I'd be particularly

(05:44):
if you're a tired person or a pensioner or in
a village, let me know what you're playing. I think
people like it because they play the games, but they
also like they've got their headphones on, they chat to
other people as they're playing, so it gives them community
as well. Fifty seven million Americans over fifty game. You

(06:07):
know why I always left gaming? I was there. I
think probably I was a generation too old for gaming
and it never really stuck with me. The kids are
into it, but I'm just curious now that might be
something that you don't do or do do, particularly if
you're retired, and what are you playing. It'll be kind
of interested to know. I don't think there would be
a retirement well spent playing video games, but how would

(06:30):
I know. I'm trying to be less judgmental. Yeah, get
in touch. You want to be part of a head
of twelve o'clock. Yeah, Gary Marcus, welcome, good evening, thanks
for calling.

Speaker 5 (06:41):
Yes, all right, Mae, how are you?

Speaker 6 (06:43):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (06:43):
Good?

Speaker 7 (06:43):
Gary?

Speaker 8 (06:44):
Good?

Speaker 9 (06:44):
Good?

Speaker 3 (06:45):
Hey.

Speaker 5 (06:45):
I saw it Sharon when he came to Wellington last time,
and I'd come out of surgery twenty four hours before
with a knee surgery, and I went down to the
ticket office and said if you got any tickets, and
they had four left, so bought them and the family
wheeled me into the stadium to watch them. And it
was bloody good, really good years ago.

Speaker 10 (07:06):
Is that?

Speaker 2 (07:07):
Is it like four years ago or three years ago? Yeah?

Speaker 9 (07:09):
I think it, maybe, I think yeah.

Speaker 5 (07:12):
But what I do like about him is he's he's
pretty genuine. Even though he's the goddess around the world,
he's not too over the top, you know. He mixes
mangles with the people and the cultures and so forth,
and that's one of the things I like about him.
And his music's pretty bloody good too. Could bring along.

Speaker 2 (07:32):
Stuff, you know, walk with kings and keep the common
touch out of the Wheelchairrea walking okay, yeah, no.

Speaker 5 (07:38):
Fully recovered, mate, fully recovered you Yes, I probably will. Actually,
the first time I heard about it when you mentioned that.

Speaker 2 (07:46):
He's all on so you get yourself there. I don't
know if there's many more songs as there.

Speaker 11 (07:52):
Yes, there is.

Speaker 5 (07:54):
You're not a follower, well, no, it would. Last time
it was the latest one.

Speaker 2 (07:57):
I met a girl in an Irish bandy Lili.

Speaker 5 (08:00):
That was the Joe get that with the playmate his
heads Saphire, which is really cool. We did there was
one of the Indian artists. He's okay, yeah, it's really
it's really clever.

Speaker 2 (08:18):
He thundering other cultures music. Yeah, okay, young, what else
is there.

Speaker 6 (08:27):
With that?

Speaker 5 (08:28):
From now?

Speaker 2 (08:28):
Okay? He's always hassling buskers to jump in and sing
with him though. That's what freaks me out. But you know, Gary,
good on? You got any report? No need, Sharon?

Speaker 3 (08:36):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (08:41):
Would you go see Lewis Capaldi?

Speaker 3 (08:43):
Gary?

Speaker 2 (08:45):
You like Lewis Capaldi?

Speaker 9 (08:47):
Do you like him?

Speaker 4 (08:48):
No?

Speaker 5 (08:49):
I mean I listened to everyone's music, but no, I wouldn't.
I wouldn't go and see him.

Speaker 12 (08:53):
No, why not? Sorry, I just not.

Speaker 5 (08:57):
I don't know really, I don't really followed them.

Speaker 13 (09:00):
So why not?

Speaker 2 (09:01):
Yeah? To touch Gary, I am a little bit, but
he seems to be the artist. It's everywhere anyway, Okay,
I'm curious. I just thought, Yeah, okay, good on. You
appreciate you coming through and your moxie there. Very good
on you. Ruth Marcus welcome.

Speaker 10 (09:15):
Oh hi Marcus. I went and saw Edge hearing with
my girlfriends last time he came to Auckland. I'm sixty
two years old now, and I went with my girlfriends
that we I connected with after a long time, and
we had the most amazing time. His concert was amazing,

(09:38):
and it was amazing because he was he He captivated
the audience by himself. He did the loop thing, you know,
he you know, he pressed, he did some tunes on
his I'm not a musical person, but he did some
tunes on his guitar, and then he pressed the pedal

(09:59):
and that looped back, and then he did some singing
and that looped back, and then he did something else
and that looped back. Men, you know, he played the
songs that we all know and love, and honestly, it
was just astounding by himself how he managed to make
this music for everyone to hear. Honestly, it was the

(10:22):
best concert of my life.

Speaker 2 (10:24):
You'll be in the WhatsApp group with your girlfriends again?
Are you yeah?

Speaker 14 (10:28):
I know?

Speaker 2 (10:29):
Are you going to go again? Did you get did
you get a risk? Did you get did you get
the risk? Did you get a wristband that lit up?

Speaker 5 (10:37):
Yes?

Speaker 10 (10:38):
I think I think we did.

Speaker 2 (10:41):
Did you go to cold Play?

Speaker 3 (10:42):
Ruth?

Speaker 10 (10:43):
No, I wish I had not.

Speaker 2 (10:45):
People love cold Play, but God as soon as I'm
talking to you, Ruth, I'm just I'm just an absolute
trauma about there will be a kiss cam and people
do the same thing they've done all weekend, which is
pretend they're don't underestimate.

Speaker 10 (10:56):
Don't underestimate his concerts. They are just made.

Speaker 2 (11:00):
Oh no, look, I know people. I know people came
out on them. I know people came out on a cloud. Yeah,
we would stock, Ruth.

Speaker 10 (11:10):
No, I wish best of them in Auckland.

Speaker 6 (11:14):
You know.

Speaker 10 (11:15):
Yeah, I'm sixty two, so I've been to a lot
of them. I know what you were happen resounded. I've stounded,
probably by the technology that he managed to introduce into
his shows, and also the Drax Project that played beforehand
were amazing. I hadn't heard of them before then, and
no doubt he'll have someone amazing playing before his show
this time.

Speaker 5 (11:36):
Go to him.

Speaker 10 (11:36):
You've got to don't underestimate it. It's amazing.

Speaker 2 (11:40):
Nice to hear, Ruth. There we go eighteen past date.
Hold your horse has been with your son backzone? Oh well,
is Sharon coming? Old boy? A guy that can play
all that music without a band, making band redune it
all around the world. Couldn't think of anything worse. Some
are feeling the love, Some aren't feeling the love. Someone said.
He contributed to the F one soundtrack awesome song called drive.

(12:03):
Oh well, Bennett's Marcus. Good evening and welcome.

Speaker 9 (12:06):
Marcus.

Speaker 7 (12:07):
Mate.

Speaker 9 (12:08):
Hey, I'm just going to check a piece of wood
on the fire. What is it going out?

Speaker 15 (12:11):
Old man?

Speaker 16 (12:13):
Old man?

Speaker 2 (12:13):
Pine out of the way.

Speaker 9 (12:16):
Sorry, dogs in the way. No, we're I'm being well,
it's killing droid. I just get the old bearers from.

Speaker 2 (12:23):
Work top of Oh yeah, great love love a bear.

Speaker 13 (12:27):
I listen.

Speaker 9 (12:28):
You tapped on a subject the video games. Look, I'm
an old boy, but I started from the Amiga in
the Atari days and the Commodore sixty fours and ah,
the list goes on. I'm sitting here now looking at
my PlayStation five. But I've had to sort of keep

(12:48):
that a bit of a secret.

Speaker 17 (12:50):
You knows I grew older.

Speaker 2 (12:53):
I think you'd be ashamed.

Speaker 9 (12:55):
I know it was because you know my my Look,
I rode, I ride motorbikes, and I played rugby in
league and you know, and do all these things I
did play.

Speaker 17 (13:06):
Sorry, and.

Speaker 9 (13:11):
Yeah, it was just one of those things that I
sort of got laughed at. You know as I grow up.

Speaker 2 (13:16):
I think that's I think it's changed in the last
ten years, hasn't it seem But it seems to become
it's just people have given up. They think, well, it's
all accepted because it seems to be what a lot
of people spend their whole life doing with those giant tvings.

Speaker 9 (13:28):
Me, I would give it more time, apart from you know,
I'll get away with having a PlayStation and all out
in the open now because they've got kids. But yeah,
look at was it's sort of got it got put
in the in the corner, and that was how it
was because yeah, but nowadays, you know, it only hits

(13:49):
me nowadays when I'm getting these headphones in microphones and
I'm talking to the thing, oh you know, and back
comes this voice. It's just like this little kid. You
can tell it's a little kids voice. And I'm thinking,
it's only times like that when I realized and I
sort of feel a bit.

Speaker 2 (14:10):
I've been being just a bit just because everyone everyone,
I was wondering how old are you and what game
are you playing?

Speaker 9 (14:16):
I don't belie too much? Can I can I use
a different name now? Yeah, er Roger, I'm forty five
and I'm nearly I'm forty five, but a lot of
people just love it. I just love it.

Speaker 12 (14:29):
And I what game?

Speaker 2 (14:31):
Call of Duty?

Speaker 9 (14:33):
No, I'm from the OG, so I've gone the battlefield, right,
Because you see, before Call of Duty, there was there
was a thing called there was a game called Battlefield
nineteen forty two, and that was the answer to everybody's thing.
You know, before there was GTA, but it was all
birds you're looking at. It was not as realistic. But

(14:55):
there was the war, the army man thing. We loved
that too, so but it was always from a bird's eye.
It was sort of a third person and you're always
thinking to yourself and I'm sure this is some other
gamers this year and these sorts who are you know?
But you're like, I want to be there, you know,
how can I How can I be there? And in

(15:17):
nineteen forty two was that first game, Dettlefield ninety forty
two where you could do it. You could jump in
the tanks, you could shoot the tanks, jump, get pained.

Speaker 2 (15:29):
The game, your commander, the game you're playing is Battlefield
nineteen forty two.

Speaker 9 (15:34):
Right, No, well, no, no, I've still got it. I've
still got it. But now I've gone through the evolutionary
called the duty started. It spoke slow movie sequels.

Speaker 2 (15:44):
So where's the what's the game? What's the game you're
playing now?

Speaker 9 (15:48):
I'm playing Battlefield five because yeah, they brought out another one.
It's been what theater of what the theater of war?

Speaker 3 (15:59):
Is it?

Speaker 17 (15:59):
Now?

Speaker 9 (16:01):
Oh man, We're everywhere. You can be wherever you want
to be. I'm doing I'm doing Wake Island. I'm just
I love the old.

Speaker 2 (16:10):
So you're still in World War even though it's Battlefield five,
you're still in World War two?

Speaker 9 (16:14):
Yeah, yeah, but it's are you with the Germans the Japanese?

Speaker 2 (16:20):
Are you with the Germans?

Speaker 9 (16:22):
Shuffled around? Sometimes you're this, and sometimes you're that, and
and it's funny because you get a run at the
jeep and jump in the bloody jeep, but hang on
the wheels on the other side. Yeah, you're in the
passenger seat. You're trying to take off in a Harry
because there's some bagg of chasing you. You know, he's
at to save the wheel, just like you are. I mean,

(16:43):
it's awesome, Marcus.

Speaker 2 (16:44):
Are you connected? Are you connected to other people? Yeah?

Speaker 9 (16:48):
Yeah, it's getting serious. Now like we've got got an army,
we've got spots, we've got commanders, we've got you know,
and you've got a week aware. I'm forty seventh in
the world. So yeah, it gets serious, man, and there
is money at stake nowadays, you know, like this is
a this is the thing that my parents were always
my case, get outside and get some sun. Joined you've

(17:09):
been on that all day and yeah, but you know
it was always thanks to the rich kids. You know,
we were living in the country and there was.

Speaker 7 (17:18):
The rich kids.

Speaker 9 (17:19):
You know, their farms are doing a bit better, or
their parents probably weren't gamblers or whatever drinking down at
the pub, they did a bit better. So the video
game machines were always a bit flasher, and so it
was cool because you just go around and hang out
with old Mae Hamish and jam on his machine and.

Speaker 2 (17:37):
So with your and your on Wake Island or wherever.
Are you with the same group of people, your same
band of brothers you're playing with every every night.

Speaker 9 (17:46):
Yeah, yeah, you get a plan.

Speaker 2 (17:49):
Are they all in New Zealand?

Speaker 9 (17:52):
No, They're all over the world and some of them
and some of them.

Speaker 2 (17:55):
Are young, I suppose because they'd be kids into it
as well. Out there.

Speaker 9 (17:58):
Oh, I mean it's funny. Like I said, you know,
we talk on the microphone and everyone who were big
deep boys and then all of a sudden business.

Speaker 2 (18:06):
Well, I suppose the reflexes have been around there. You
need a cup one or two of those the snipers
or something, won't you because they're quicker.

Speaker 9 (18:13):
Look those young fellas they've got that, they've got the
slighter hand you. It's awesome, it's awesome.

Speaker 2 (18:22):
How many hours you playing a night?

Speaker 15 (18:25):
Ah?

Speaker 9 (18:26):
It theories? You know, like I said, I've got kids
now and I'm a working man and I'm forty five.
The kids play I've got this, but no every now
and then, you know, there's these moments the kids have
got to go away to the gym competitions, gymnastics competitions
or dancing competitions and it and you get a moment

(18:47):
where here and I spend all night. Hey, it's great fun.

Speaker 2 (18:58):
Look, someone says, Kings is my man. Battlefield ninety forty
two was the ship back? And oh yeah, yeah, I mean, wow,
what was it?

Speaker 9 (19:11):
I mean, you're testing me Americas. No, I mean, I'd
hate to guess I'll get it wrong and I'll embarrass
myself in front of my game.

Speaker 2 (19:20):
I know they's you have a twenty years ago. I've
got to run Ben Roger. But nice to talk to you.

Speaker 16 (19:24):
Thank you.

Speaker 2 (19:25):
Oh that's good. I appreciate his passion. Wow, get in touch.
My name is Marcus Hddle twelve brilliant. I think someone
needs to give us a little bit of a quick
background on the Battle of Wake Island. I presume that
the Japanese took the Americans. It was the Americans held
it for a while, but in the end the Japanese
took it. The battle is notable for the initial success

(19:51):
the American defenders, who inflicted significant losses on the Japanese
before ultimately being overwhelmed. There's quite a lot of Wikipedia
about the Battle of Wake Island. To tiny, I mean,
it's a god for sake, it was not a god
forsaken looking place. It's just an as old but there's
not much to it. Just after Pearl Harbor would have

(20:16):
been the same day, actually, May nineteen forty one. I
don't know what what's on it now? Wake Island. David Marcus, welcome,
Hello mate, How are you good? David?

Speaker 4 (20:33):
Hey, I'm sorry, just far up on you. On your
man in earlier Right, I'm sixty one, I paid I
play the same as him. The Battlefield franchise on a
PC not be as time. The game is twenty to
twenty five years old, as he said, there's various editions
that have come out over the years. Nineteen forty two
was the first. It's basically a first person shooter. What

(20:54):
he's talking about is your first person shooter. So you
play the role right. A lot of the early games
to a third person where you've got this sort of
view looking down from above and these little lamps running
around and you control one of them. In the first
person shooter, you're just there. It's through your eyes and
it's addictive. As I said, I'm sixty one. Have you
plenty for twenty five years? And the Wake Island is

(21:16):
just one map, right, there's probably twenty twenty five maps.
You log into servers around the world and go for
your life. Right, microphone on sound turned up, torn a
squad and away you go. One time. You know, the
Japanese might like Wi Wake Island next time round the
US wing Wake Island is play and go again. Hilarious.

Speaker 2 (21:37):
You do it on a big screen, so it's kind
of immersive, would you now, David, now you're no longer
on your PC, would that be right?

Speaker 15 (21:44):
Well?

Speaker 4 (21:44):
You big well, I think big PlayStation dudes probably do
on the TVs right sixty seventy eight inch TVs PlayStation
and go for it. PC dudes might have two or
three monitors lined up left, right, center and play like that.
You know, so it's still work on computers.

Speaker 2 (22:04):
Game, David, it's World War two? So is it authentic
to the weapons or the modern weapons you can use?

Speaker 4 (22:11):
No, there's all sorts of em about nineteen forty two
was obviously set in World War Two, and there's various
theater of the war, and there's various maps games per
theater of war. Right Battlefield five, which is I think
what them were saying is playing that's the Second World War.
Boutfield one, which just came out before Battlefield five. That

(22:31):
was the nineteen fourteen, nineteenth nineteen eighteen First World War.
So you had the Russian Front, he had things like
the Solomon Passiondale in Europe. You know, he used the
weapons at the time.

Speaker 2 (22:44):
Mustard, guess, so you've got gas.

Speaker 4 (22:48):
You've got you know, in sundry bonds. All sorts of stuff.
You got planes, you know, one of the early ones
I think would have been probably the mid two thousands.
You can customized maps he used to play. He can
played Desert Storm right modern Abraham's tang all sorts of
really cool weaponry.

Speaker 2 (23:11):
Is that guy doing well? Is that guy doing well?
If his forty ninth in the world.

Speaker 15 (23:17):
Legend?

Speaker 2 (23:18):
I thought he was too way humble with it, too legid.
I don't think it was nice as kids were still
what were his kids doing? Gymnastics and dance? I thought
that was quite moving as well. He's just here you go,
where you out, you go. He's back on the game. Brilliant.
Nice here from your David, twenty five to nine. Marcus

(23:38):
at age seventy, I've been playing Total Battle, a massive
multiplayer online game, for some years now. Annoyingly I get
into the top one hundred too often have to be
open to attack until I get back to a lower placing.
Good fun. There are a few other key He's in
the same group as me, but mainly Americans, Russians and
other Europeans. Peter from Levin, I'll be fighting alongside the Russians.

(24:02):
Tell them to try how let loose. It's like Battlefield,
but more realistic. What realistic grig it's Marcus welcome even Marcus.

Speaker 18 (24:11):
Yeah, about twenty odd years ago, he used to do
shift work and for whatever reason ended up just going
to internet CAFA and playing Battlefield nineteen forty two. I
think my brother introduced it to me, and it was
an absolutely outstanding game.

Speaker 17 (24:26):
I believe.

Speaker 18 (24:27):
The variation after that was battle Battlefield Vietnam, and that
has been was saying was like immersive, You're in it,
You're you're feeling it. And just to sort of add
to the realism, they have the soundtracks of the time,
so CCR comes to mind for Battlefield Vietnam.

Speaker 2 (24:48):
Oh yeah, Ca and Heat on the Road again, all
those sorts of songs.

Speaker 9 (24:53):
Yeah.

Speaker 18 (24:54):
Following Battlefield Vietnam, it moved into yeah, Desert Storm, and
it was about the time of the two thousand and
three US invasion of Iraq, and so the game came
out of a and you could be on the Iraqi
side or the US side, and it was just quite weird,

(25:15):
you know, watching the actual war play out on your
TV screen, but then you kind of get to participate
in it from a gaming level a little bit Macaba maybe,
but just you know that's the hocket of the games.
I guess is you sort of feel part of it
and you're you're you're playing a role in it.

Speaker 2 (25:33):
Okay, so yeah, do the battles last, Do the battles
last an infinite amount of time until you did? Or
is there a fixed time on it?

Speaker 18 (25:42):
I recall I think there was Capture the Flag, so
they can Yeah, it's a fixed amount of time. I
think there are variations. You don't just have to play
that style. But an amazing game, super realism and authentic
to the period. Like so Battlefield nineteen forty two was

(26:04):
it was quite crude because the the weaponry there wasn't
advanced as it is now, and like you know, you
think you might have a clear shot and your targets
on someone, but just I know, something happens, maybe you
get a little bump, orse and wind or whatever, and
you don't get the shot. So they're absolutely outstanding games.

(26:26):
There was also one just I don't know if it
was out before nineteen forty two, but Counterstrike that was
quite a massive game of its time at that sort
of first person shooting game. And I'm sure are the
callers will chip on a counter Striker but that was
one of probably the biggest game of its time when
it came out. But yeah, the Battlefield series.

Speaker 2 (26:52):
Can I just take time Greg, you're still there, just
like yeah, can take time to acknowledge what you said
about the Internet cafes? Man? They came and went, didn't that?
Are that you explain to people that you go to
a cafe to to know the Internet? When were they
around nineteen ninety five to two thousand and twenty ten?
They're all gone, weren't they?

Speaker 3 (27:13):
Yeah?

Speaker 18 (27:13):
Yeah, I reckon there'd be about the radeos. I was
going to them in about two thousand and one, two
thousand and three. My friend worked in one in the
late nineties.

Speaker 2 (27:22):
I don't know.

Speaker 18 (27:23):
I wouldn't even know where to find one.

Speaker 10 (27:25):
Now.

Speaker 2 (27:25):
I guess everyone got an iPhone and that just replaced
everything you could do it into the cafe, didn't it.

Speaker 4 (27:31):
Yeah.

Speaker 18 (27:31):
Look, the other thing is lots of businesses offer free
Wi Fi, so you don't need to go to Internet
KFA because you've got your own device, And even if
you don't have and then you know, like pay for
an instant connection, you just get a free one from
you know wherever?

Speaker 2 (27:46):
Did you want to say something? Did you want to
say something about flag football.

Speaker 9 (27:50):
Yeah.

Speaker 5 (27:50):
Look, I.

Speaker 18 (27:53):
Just happened to chance on it a couple of nights
ago because and Dad had been watching They're Aby on
Sky Sport and I was just flicking around and I
was like, oh, this looks interesting. And it was the
biggest waste of time.

Speaker 6 (28:07):
Of my life.

Speaker 2 (28:08):
It was unwatchable. It was absolutely unwatchable, terrible.

Speaker 18 (28:12):
What it reminded me of was me and my friends
doing like backard down at the park on a Saturday
and some guy trying to sort of pretend to have
a good side step and I was like, man, these
to be honest. If they do it, the kiwis will
warrant them. Yeah, that's the worst spot.

Speaker 2 (28:32):
I could believe all of all the things with good sports,
we could have had an l a to have that
is embarrassing because that was just guarble. Yeah, okay please, Yeah.
I mightn't get get my mit what's her name? I
don't get a text, ol, what's her name? The CEO
of Sky Sheila Maloney is it? I might give a

(28:53):
text and just say get rid of that off CNN
to Sophie, but we don't want to see that again.
That was just total rubbish, terrible, and they said, some
of the greats of rugby league in Australia, We're going
to go and join the l A team. But you'd
be mad if you did. Oh, people are loving the
show cheap as creepers. The texts, Marcus, I think the

(29:13):
Battle of Way Island was the first time the USA
used the Japanese code to confirm the rules of the
battle engagement. The US had cracked the Japanese code and
said a bogus message out that Waykelan was out of water.
Then the US code breakers listened to the Japanese code
and sure enough they messaged back to Japan that the
US were out of water on Wake, confirming to the
US they had the code without the Japanese knowing. I

(29:38):
think Wake was a no specific winner over Roar, but
was the last time the Japanese had an advantage. Just
going off memory, psy Chrost Church great texts, keeping coming
shoot them through fifteen away from nine A Josh, it's
Marcus good evening.

Speaker 17 (29:52):
Yeah evening, Marcus, Yeah, good good yngs man, good yarns Yeah.

Speaker 5 (29:56):
Interesting.

Speaker 17 (29:56):
The demographic of gamers, I'd suggest that under forty five
it would increase of a ser the Yeah, these heaps
eighties kids. So yeah, you'd be the oldest the oldest
gamer is Yeah, it would be fifty five ish. I

(30:20):
don't know, that might be the top, but yeah, as
you go work way down. Yeah, obviously there's more more numbers.

Speaker 9 (30:27):
But hey, I love A.

Speaker 17 (30:31):
Good series was Middle of Honor. That was sort of
a single player story mode type wall game. So that
was before the online multiplayer. Yeah, that that was good
series there, Medal of Honor. You went through Normandy and

(30:54):
progressed from there.

Speaker 2 (30:56):
Historically, was it historically accurate?

Speaker 6 (31:00):
Uh?

Speaker 17 (31:01):
Geez, I mean I.

Speaker 2 (31:03):
Went up to a point, I mean obviously yeah, yeah, I.

Speaker 17 (31:08):
Would say yeah, yeah, it's pretty accurate. Yeah, pretty accurate.
I mean, you know, umballast as a video game, so
it's a pretty yeah, exaggerated situations. Pratt Also, Rugby League
twenty six has just come out.

Speaker 2 (31:27):
I'm talking about that year.

Speaker 17 (31:30):
And and PS five, PS four. Yeah, that's it's pretty interesting.
We can play games and practice things and do things
like have.

Speaker 2 (31:42):
You played Rugby League twenty six?

Speaker 17 (31:46):
Not yet, I've played all the preacherss.

Speaker 2 (31:50):
Okay, I've never heard people rave about rugby league video games.

Speaker 17 (31:57):
It's just it's just fresh. It's just come out now, right,
the latest one.

Speaker 2 (32:01):
Yeah, not a new one, no Mark, But I'm saying
what I'm trying to say converse to you, Josh is
I don't think that the rugby league games have ever
worked as video games.

Speaker 17 (32:17):
There's different genres. Well, if you get to you want
to talk about genres, you know, you've got your Shoot
them Up which turned into mass online multiplayer. Then you've
got your sport games. So every sport game has a franchise.
You know basketball, American football, baseball, you know, hockey, everything,

(32:43):
and some of these games date back. So some of
these games date back sort of ninety five ish, and
every couple of years they update them. So right now
you can play FIFA with live updated teams of teams
of today.

Speaker 3 (33:04):
Yeah.

Speaker 17 (33:04):
So I think that's cool and you know it's fun.
It's great.

Speaker 2 (33:11):
Nice to hear from me. Just by the way, just
to each Yaron before and each. Sharon's new album Play
is out September twelve, Say me, Say me, Marcus. Middle
of on the Frontline is the best first and Shuldar
game ever made. The opening level when you hit the
Beach of Normandy was amazing when it came out on
PS two back in two thousand and two. The weapons

(33:31):
sounded great sum recorded using authentic weapons. Brent, it's Marcus.

Speaker 7 (33:36):
Welcome, Okay, Marcus.

Speaker 19 (33:38):
I just wanted to have a quick chat about Rugby
League twenty six. Yep, what the game on Thursday, and
it's really awesome. It's come a long way since the
last League game, which I think was eight years ago.

Speaker 2 (33:50):
Maybe yeah, that'd be how long it would would have been.
I saw the kids playing, I thought, and they didn't.
It didn't seem to really grab them. I thought, wow.
I looked at what to a Well.

Speaker 19 (34:00):
They have done a few patch updates since the release dates,
so it's getting better and better. But the players themselves
are real realistic and the game plays pretty good and
lots of different options.

Speaker 15 (34:09):
In it to play.

Speaker 2 (34:10):
How does it work the twenty six version. You can
have your own team or you're playing with one of
the r RL.

Speaker 7 (34:16):
Teams either either.

Speaker 19 (34:18):
So you can do like a career mode where you're
the coach and you deal with suspensions and injuries and
buy players, release players, blah blah. Play the game, or
play play the career as a player coming up from
Queensland Cup trying to make the first grade and work
is or just play seasons of MROL or seasons of
super League online against other people online competitions.

Speaker 2 (34:39):
Do you feel you get enough movement of the players
to make it convincing? I mean, what can you can
control with the players?

Speaker 19 (34:46):
Everything stepping, fending, head ups, sprinting, chip and chase scrubbers.

Speaker 9 (34:55):
I'm pretty good at doing.

Speaker 19 (34:56):
Cross kicks now with any salasionic out and the win or.

Speaker 2 (35:02):
You do the cross kick and then would you become
desalisnia A least decker would be running to catch them.
So you become in a multi move like that? Are
you playing more than one player role? You're playing the
whole team, are you?

Speaker 19 (35:15):
Yeah, so you push your button to change to a
different player that you are good to ply the player
closer to the borders, so you've become But yeah, I
think it's pretty cool that it's a good game because.

Speaker 2 (35:28):
I tried the basketball oner, but but with the shooting
and stuff like that, it just seemed a bit maybe
I didn't play it long enough, but didn't seem to
me like you really controlled the players and the same ones.

Speaker 19 (35:41):
Yeah, football I find quite hard to play, to be honest,
I'm not sure why.

Speaker 2 (35:46):
And I've always thought, probably wrongly, that because this is
just an ossie NRL game, there wouldn't be the money
behind making it really good because the market's quite small.

Speaker 20 (35:56):
Yeah.

Speaker 19 (35:56):
Well, you never have like a sports make it, would you,
because they wouldn't be interested in But I.

Speaker 2 (36:02):
Guess there might be. You know that the smaller scale
it might be even better.

Speaker 19 (36:06):
Yeah, that's right. They make a lot of money from
online things to people using credit cards to buy certain
players and attributes to play the tournaments, so can degenerate
quite a bit of income.

Speaker 2 (36:17):
Yeah, so you can get add up stuff by buying things,
buying extra what uniforms or extra players or stuff?

Speaker 19 (36:22):
A yes, stadiums all that jaerse, Yeah that's right.

Speaker 2 (36:26):
What are you the Warriors normally Brent.

Speaker 19 (36:29):
Certainly a mate, certainly loved Worriers. So it's good fun
markers really is.

Speaker 2 (36:35):
And the players look like them, do they?

Speaker 16 (36:37):
Yeah?

Speaker 19 (36:37):
All the NURL and Super League players were schemed face skimmed.
The guys in the lower league like the Queensland Cup
haven't been I haven't been face skimmed. So they look
close but not the.

Speaker 2 (36:48):
Same, and the players get a share of it.

Speaker 9 (36:52):
I don't.

Speaker 19 (36:53):
I don't believe so, but I'm not too sure how
that works.

Speaker 2 (36:58):
Well, that would make sense, I suppose, because anyone probably
wants to click the ticket to stop everyone going to
Rugby three sixty whatever that one is in Saudi Arabia
A new one.

Speaker 19 (37:06):
Yeah, that's right. Yeah, must get something out of it.

Speaker 2 (37:10):
I might give it a go. Brett. Nice to hear
from you. Thank you. Eight hundred and eighty ten eighty
Marcus till twelve, Get in touch, Marcus, first call of Judy,
best game ever used to put our pocket money together
to hire the console, played it all weekend.

Speaker 3 (37:27):
John A.

Speaker 2 (37:28):
Loom who Rugby was and still is the best rugby
game ever made? Someone says we need to have some
war memorials for all those brave soldiers on the home front.
And I've been finding a good fight from the computer screen.
Don't fit you know what that means? Great show tonight.
I'm forty four in still game heaps addicted my Gojos.

(37:52):
Every night when the kids go to bed, I connect
for and snakes and that us love them still on
dial up, Marcus. About forty years ago, I played a
game called Wolfenstein, And where are you? Progress through levels
of a castle, prison, and you open up one of
the doors that means dogs there, and they would charge

(38:16):
at you. And I played it so much I started
dream about the dogs and fight them off. After I
woke up myself up fighting off the dogs, I realized
I'm playing a bit much. I don't think it was
any shame playing video games these days, although I suppose
probably would feel guilty if you're stuck inside all day
doing it, be worried of judgment. But to talk about
id Cheron, there seems to be a certain group age

(38:39):
group that thinks he Cheeran was the best cont they've
ever been too, So you might want to mention that
there's been trouble at the darts. Do you see that
Daryl Gurney unhappy with the way I grew and Price
celebrated and let him know you're these rugby union players

(39:02):
turning to turning to darts. I don't know about old
Price way, Marcus. I play Star Trek Online, a massive
multiplayer online game with three point five million players. The
game tells me, in the last ten years, I've played
a total of five hundred and twelve days, ten hours,
and twenty three minutes, so that's fifty two full days

(39:24):
a year, which is a seventh of all the hours
that's on. It is my sole source of entertainment. I
think I need to help Robert Marcus. I was ten,
I tried downloading a one megabyte video game overnight using
dial up. After eleven hours, my mom pick up the

(39:45):
phone and killed the download. These days, kids get impatient
waiting five minutes to download a game infinitely larger. I
also paid one hundred fet dollars for PGA two or
four eight six that came up when I was twelve.
Let's the three hundred dollars these days. Big fan, Marcus,
Big fan, Great conversation. Laura sixty five, retired, plays video

(40:08):
games with three grandchildren, all aged nine and fifteen. She
loves but long before she became a grandmother. Should be
playing video games for thirty years since she was gifted
a PlayStation in the mid nineties. She loves it. Tenuard
Fight my favorite Nintendo game, Birds Eye View. Sorry, Raymond, Marcus.

Speaker 21 (40:28):
Welcome you know Marcus house names got Raymond?

Speaker 2 (40:32):
Thank you, got a Milo.

Speaker 17 (40:35):
It's a bog it.

Speaker 21 (40:36):
I've been gaming oh late eighties. Started with Sega Mega Drive,
came all the way through. I've had all the consoles
sixty three now, oh wow, I'm still still going hard.
But the games I play have changed because he reflexes

(40:58):
changes you get older, and so yeah, some of my
taste and gaming has changed as well. It used to
be used to be Battlefield two and shoot them ups
and fever soccer. But my favorite game was V eight
Supercars two. Yes, I got pretty addicted to that. I

(41:22):
was working four days on, four days off, but dear
a company, and even on the days on or get up,
I had six o'clock start. I get up about half
us three four o'clock in the morning, have about an
hour and a half warm up, and then go to
work and then come home, walk the dogs, have tea,
and then game tour about eleven o'clock, go to bed

(41:46):
on the days off. Or was gaming eight to ten
hours a day, the averaging about forty five hours a week.
I suppose that was for about good ten years.

Speaker 2 (41:59):
And this is mainly with the Formula one game, right,
And it was a V eight Supercars game of V
eight Supercars, but you couldn't plock. You just try and
get better and better, would you?

Speaker 21 (42:10):
You're racing against other guys. So I was in the
top twelve and Australasia became a Mambster result. We had
it used to race the season each year and in
Australasia and the Mamvesta result was four over the whole season.
But they're really competitive. There was only two New Zealanders

(42:33):
that made the top twelve.

Speaker 2 (42:36):
So obviously obviously you're all connected it all. It's a
connected game. You're all connected together and play. Yeah yeah, okay,
was there any Was there any money in it for
those results?

Speaker 11 (42:46):
Raymond?

Speaker 2 (42:46):
Was it professional?

Speaker 11 (42:47):
No?

Speaker 21 (42:47):
No, No, there was professional back in those days. We're
talking about we're talking about what year was at about
two thousand and five sort of thing. So it was
only the competition was run by all the players in

(43:08):
Australasia that used to hang out and the same group
where we had guys. We had elimination races and all
that sort of thing to get into the top twelve.
It was really competitive, but good fun.

Speaker 12 (43:27):
Yeah, so it was.

Speaker 21 (43:29):
But since then, I've slowed down a bit and I
had a stroke three years ago. So it only feed
them a speech, but feed them my confidence online. So
I tend to play now these days. I'll work about
sixty five hours a week, so I don't have a
lot as much time for gaming, but I still enjoy

(43:49):
a game of goal, for a game of fever or
something like that from time to time.

Speaker 2 (43:55):
It's probably quite good. Is it good for a stroke recovery?

Speaker 21 (44:01):
Not so much for me because mine was speech related.
Some leagues almost five blims still work.

Speaker 9 (44:07):
So yeah, it was all good.

Speaker 21 (44:10):
But I found it quite tiring after the stroke, so
I didn't play it a lot. So I got a
bit rustier a few games. But I still got all
the consoles all their way through. They were worth a
bit of money now, so I'm going to hold on
to them and give them them the grand kids.

Speaker 2 (44:33):
When I bought the bullet, were you playing the driving
thing with your supercars? Were you on a console? Were
you with a set up with a steering wheel on
the full bit? Was it like that or you just
playing on the.

Speaker 21 (44:44):
Yeah I had a driving sim, but I was at
my best when I had a hand controller.

Speaker 2 (44:51):
Yeah, okay, so the driving symp didn't help.

Speaker 21 (44:55):
Uh, it's a preference. And because I learned on a
hand controller, going over to a drive and it's a
lot sort of like learning all over again. And so
I really had I've got a fast twitch mechanism mechanism.

(45:15):
So I like the fine adjustments and movements on the controller.

Speaker 19 (45:20):
I can get that.

Speaker 21 (45:21):
When I was driving, I could sort of feel the
weight through my bum weight transfer. It's pretty unreal when
you're doing it that long. It's sort of just about
like being in a car. Your body sort of simulates
to what you do, your hands are doing, and it's
amazing what the brain sort of compensates for your surroundings.

Speaker 12 (45:48):
Yeah.

Speaker 21 (45:48):
Pretty scary actually.

Speaker 2 (45:49):
But Raymond, do you worry that you that you're spending
your days now playing golf and stuff like that where
you could be out there playing real golf. Is that
something you've thought about.

Speaker 21 (45:59):
I've played there for about twenty years.

Speaker 2 (46:01):
Oh okay, so they played golf as well. Okay, fair enough,
good answer.

Speaker 21 (46:04):
It's a lot less stressful playing online.

Speaker 2 (46:08):
Yeah, okay, fair enough, fair enough, Okay, So you're not
hiding away from the world. You've got out there ahead
of it of a go in the real world.

Speaker 21 (46:15):
No, I've got a lifestyle block, you know what that's
and towels a.

Speaker 2 (46:19):
Lot of work we call them. We call them a
life sentence block. Now, I think that's what that is.

Speaker 21 (46:24):
It's the one Yeah, yeah, so I was still doing that. Actually,
it's quite quite good at the moment with a price
of beef. I sold a couple the other day and
got three and a half grand each of them.

Speaker 17 (46:37):
Wow, that was that was a nice little.

Speaker 21 (46:41):
Little cash injection.

Speaker 2 (46:42):
Yeah, that's you got twenty acres.

Speaker 21 (46:45):
No, I only got the old traditional five acre block.

Speaker 2 (46:49):
So how many cattle beasts you.

Speaker 16 (46:50):
Got on it?

Speaker 21 (46:52):
I only had two at that stage. Because I'm working
so much, I can't be bothered going out and strip
raising them all the time. Yeah, I've got four one
a hip headaches and a couple of smaller holding paddicks,
and so I just give them one peddick at a
time and I don't have to see them for about

(47:13):
three days. But the only thing with that is they
get a bit not not having much contact with people,
they get a bit spooky when it comes time to
load them onto the truck. So I take him down
the road to farmer's yard. He's got a couch in
all the big loading rants and all that. But on

(47:34):
the way down here there this time these angers three
or all the angers stairs went through four fences and
there was a lot of repairing work to be done.

Speaker 12 (47:45):
Afterwards.

Speaker 2 (47:45):
So yeah, that's a profit. That's some of your profit.

Speaker 21 (47:49):
Ghana Range talking about a few in line strainers and
a couple of meters of wire and a few nails
and it's all good.

Speaker 2 (47:59):
Nice to talk, bravn. Thanks about enjoyed that immensely sixteen
past nine, Marcus before If you're addicted to a game
at because actually good. That can still apply today. But
if you addicted to a game these days, it could
be because dark mechanics that Literal professes, the game companies
employ are working on you Wow, power outage, Birchville Upper Hut, Marcus.

(48:22):
When I was at university about twenty five years ago.
Now my friends and are ripsity in nuts have a
Battlefield nineteen forty two. Loved Battlefield Vietnam and the mod
for Desert Combat. Before that, there was a Counter Strikers,
the first prison shooter that a World War One mod
called Day of Defeat. We also loved StarCraft. It's just

(48:42):
been weekends playing games at LA N parties, each other's houses,
dan LA in Live Action Local Area Network. There we go.
We're talking. Video games in adulthood are very illuminating. I

(49:05):
appreciate people's passion.

Speaker 3 (49:08):
Good.

Speaker 2 (49:08):
How you've come forty ninth in the world and second
in the world waiting for the women. Also, if you're
a female that plays in your elder years, well over
forty let's put it that way. Skytvs bought TV three
Discovery shares her up five percent. Ah yep, come on,

(49:37):
let's be hearing from your people. You might be someone
that's become addicted later on in life. When you say addicted,
people play a long spend a long time playing them.
Don't got to go with sixty five hours a week
and still playing games cheaper is And he's running his
lifestyle block discussion tonight on the fact that a third

(50:02):
of US gamers are over fifty. People are live streaming
it too, or they're on Twitch. There's sixty year old
playing game Call of Duty making money from it. Fifty

(50:30):
seven million Americans over fifty game. Half of Americans in
their sixties and seventies play some form of PC, mobile
or console video game every week, and thirty six of
people thirty six people in their eighties. And there's more

(50:50):
gamers like who are into their golden years. Other adults
are becoming more visible in the game of mainstream Sometimes
a confusion of their peers on multiplayer platforms. Marcus just
heads up for the guy moved has not so quite
animals down the road. It's always goody to get four
or five to go with them, especially they're beef. Animal
saves a lot of problems. Cheers David, Thank you, Marcus.

(51:12):
What games have you played? Well, I'll tell you what
games I've played. There is only one game I've already
got hooked on, and I think it was the only time.
And I am fairly addictive by nature, but I've never

(51:32):
really had consoles at the house. But there was one
time I think I got given a Sega console, and
it must have been in about nineteen ninety four, and
there was a Mario game and I played that till
I've finished it all. And if I can see a

(51:56):
picture of it, I can tell you what it was called.
It might have been a Siga Saturn. It was either
a Sega sat or I think it was Aga Satin
and yeah, and I got ultimately captivated by it. It
was a Siga Satin. I don't think it was a

(52:19):
very good game console. I think probably at the time
it was considered to be slightly not up to scratch.
Of the competitors. But anyway, it was something that fell
into my hands, and I forget what the Mario game was,
you know, typical scenarios, mushrooms and the likes, not me

(52:39):
on the mushrooms, but the mushrooms on the Yeah, and
probably I could still recognize the music if it played,
so that would be that. Subsequently, I have played driving
video games, which I don't like. I don't find them
challenging enough, I don't think for me. Often when I

(53:06):
some arcade driving games, the proma that the coding seems
a bit loose. Yeah, that's kind of hard to explain anyway.
Cell phone games, I'll get hooked on mething, so I

(53:28):
delete them as soon as I find myself getting hooked
on them, like ball Crusher. Yeah, they're mindless and I
can't be watching the ads. But it's not about me.
It's about you and your stories with video games and
later age and video obsession. That's what we're on about tonight.
Oh eight hundred and eighty ten eighty nine nine two
to text. It's all about everything. I'm glad I could

(53:53):
find that was called Siega Settin.

Speaker 16 (53:57):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (53:57):
I don't think it was very good, you know how
you get so obsessed with the video game. Then in
those days you would go to a magazine shop to
find the magazines that would have some of the cheats
to help you with difficult stages. And that's where I was.

(54:20):
I was that hopped. I don't know if it was
ever seen as a very good thing or not, up
against PlayStation. Good evening, Christus, is Marcus welcome?

Speaker 16 (54:36):
Yeah, Marcus.

Speaker 2 (54:37):
Yeah.

Speaker 16 (54:38):
I had a Figa when I was a child, and
they didn't have the CD version, or I think it
was cartridges that fit on the top of the Sega
and they were like a block, kind of like a square,
little brick, and it was push it into the top
of a game console. And yeah, and we played Cops

(55:02):
and Robbers and Hate Man. Yeah, there were those two games.

Speaker 2 (55:10):
Are you playing them now, Chris? That's kind of what
we want to do. Yeah, okay, you've seen the light.

Speaker 16 (55:16):
I've actually regret that I probably would have let them
all go like I did. I don't know where they are, But.

Speaker 2 (55:26):
Why are you playing modern day consoles?

Speaker 16 (55:30):
Well, the only one that well, I don't know much
about the games these days at this generation, but I've
got an Xbox S series here and I bought that
for my for my son, and yeah, he's on it
all hours. But I'm not really a gamer, but I
have used them in my childhood, and.

Speaker 2 (55:52):
I think that's the same with me, Chris. I'm not
really a gamer. It hasn't grabbed me in adulthood a
bit like you.

Speaker 9 (55:59):
Right.

Speaker 16 (56:03):
Yeah, but I didn't have this Sega. I mean I
had a a Tari six. I think it was a
Tari sixty four. I think that's what it was. And
I had a green and brown screens computer, so yeah,
and they were all floppy discs, and I had all
my games on there.

Speaker 2 (56:24):
Do you get hopped on games on your phone?

Speaker 16 (56:30):
Yeah, sorry to be.

Speaker 12 (56:32):
In this way.

Speaker 16 (56:33):
But the gambling ones, yep. I don't play the real ones.

Speaker 2 (56:37):
But what are the gambling ones?

Speaker 16 (56:40):
The free games? The free gambling online games you can
download on on I think it's based book or something
or no, on Google Playing. You can get them on
there and download what you know online Vegas casino, you know.
But yeah, I don't play the real money. I just

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play the normal games. But yeah, that's me.

Speaker 2 (57:07):
I'd stay well clear of those, Chris. Nice to talk.
Hold your horses, guys.

Speaker 3 (57:10):
I'll be with you.

Speaker 2 (57:11):
Soon. The number is eight hundred eighty ten eighty nine
ninety texts of your daughter come through Heddle twelve looking
forward to what you want to say. It's your current
video game and posessions, particularly if you're in the older market.
Well what's the older market? I don't know where we
appeal to these days. You've got something to say about that.
I am there for you. Keep your texts coming through

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nine two nine to text and the text of envery good.
Oh eight hundred eighty tendy if you want to be
a part of the show. Free to play paidowin. Siga
didn't have any Mario games. Nintendo had Mario games. I'm sorry,
but Sega did because I spent forever playing it. So
you better apologize to me there and I'll tell you

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what the game was called. Always an Expert, isn't there.
I'll find the list of them, hope.

Speaker 12 (58:12):
I'm right now.

Speaker 2 (58:12):
I've come and that one strong. Mike. It's Marcus.

Speaker 7 (58:15):
Welcome you, Marcus.

Speaker 2 (58:17):
How are you good things?

Speaker 9 (58:18):
Mike?

Speaker 10 (58:20):
Yeah?

Speaker 7 (58:20):
Hey, jump on YouTube. I've got a game for you, mate.
Jump on YouTube type and victory is ours. It's a
teaser trailer to a game called War thunder. Yeah, it
is very, very realistic. You have aircraft, tanks and ships.

Speaker 2 (58:42):
Is it the game you play, Mike? Oh yeah, it's
I don't ready have interest. I don't have that much
interest in warfare.

Speaker 7 (58:55):
Yeah, well you can. You've got different scenarios First World Wars,
Second World War, Korean and of course it jumps up
into jet iters and so forth. You know, so you've
got your tandem, your falls and so forth. But you
must pay to get into one of those. But it

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is a free game.

Speaker 2 (59:19):
And what what do you play it on?

Speaker 7 (59:23):
You can play it on the PlayStation or you can
do it on desktop.

Speaker 2 (59:29):
Oh yeah, okay, you're playing why do it work?

Speaker 4 (59:35):
No?

Speaker 2 (59:36):
Are you? Are you? Are you someone that talked? Mike?
Are you someone that talked?

Speaker 7 (59:46):
I wouldn't say hoked, but it is addictive.

Speaker 9 (59:51):
Put it that way.

Speaker 2 (59:52):
How many hours are you playing it? Oh?

Speaker 7 (59:55):
Well, I haven't played it for a couple of years.

Speaker 2 (59:58):
You're you're in You're in recess.

Speaker 7 (01:00:02):
Yeah, I'm in recess sort of, you know, just waiting
for more realistic battlefields to come up and so forth. Yeah,
there's a lot of realistic battlefields during the Second World
War and Korean War, which you play in and it

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is pretty pretty addictious.

Speaker 2 (01:00:26):
But you know you'll love it when you know when
you've finished the game, when you die in the game
in real life.

Speaker 7 (01:00:40):
In the game, yeah, tank warfare is pretty Yeah, it's
harsh and it's man it is punishment and so at
the aircraft uh, you know you have stop by bloody
measurements and then you've got g forces which can make

(01:01:02):
you ready out or blackout. And yeah, it's it's pretty good.

Speaker 3 (01:01:10):
It is a.

Speaker 7 (01:01:13):
It was developed by Russian gamers and it is very
very realistic.

Speaker 2 (01:01:21):
Okay, I think other people be googling it anyway, Mike,
So thank you for that. Great Ox. Marcus welcome, Yeah
you get a How are you good? Great Ox.

Speaker 22 (01:01:32):
Yes, I've been enjoying the conversation this evening, and I
think I'm in the middle ground.

Speaker 2 (01:01:40):
We've had.

Speaker 22 (01:01:42):
A lot of people that have grown up. You know,
I first began with my grandfather on a floppy disk
like one of the last callers now the Commodore sixty four.
So I've seen the evolution of gaming and one of
your last calls He's very right. It can deteriorate away

(01:02:02):
from you to share as you get older, and some
of those games that they've all mentioned are very very cool.
I have a I'll rub my own and pat my
own back. I was number one in the world for
a certain game, kill Zone.

Speaker 6 (01:02:22):
Wow.

Speaker 15 (01:02:24):
Yes, yes, wow, that look a.

Speaker 2 (01:02:26):
Lot at a lot about great ogs Winter Bounce.

Speaker 22 (01:02:32):
We're talking two thousand and eleven, from twenty eleven to
twenty twelve, PlayStation three. Yes, so we're already at five. However,
I like what a lot of the callers are saying
as that as you get older, yes, things do change,

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and I think what's happening is from.

Speaker 4 (01:02:55):
That nostalgic side of what was.

Speaker 22 (01:03:01):
You can never beat it, but as it comes up
as I'm finding older and now I have children myself,
I can't. These games are so fast paced and it's just,
you know, I think the entertainment world has got to
them without actually using your brain. If that makes sense, I.

Speaker 3 (01:03:22):
Hope it does.

Speaker 5 (01:03:24):
And yes, I just want to know what happened.

Speaker 2 (01:03:27):
What happened once you got to number one in the world.

Speaker 22 (01:03:31):
Oh, I got offered to go to Japan. I met
the creators of Gorilla Warfare or a.

Speaker 19 (01:03:40):
Company that used to make games.

Speaker 22 (01:03:45):
Yes, a lot of movements happened.

Speaker 2 (01:03:50):
So you went to Japan.

Speaker 9 (01:03:53):
No, No, I didn't know.

Speaker 22 (01:03:56):
I ended up having my first Yeah, yeah, you know,
there are a lot of people that are calling, you know,
like the Atari's and all that. You know, I was
lucky enough to grow up around within that generation, but
still be young today to see where all the gaming

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is going.

Speaker 2 (01:04:19):
So what are you spending your time playing great Ogs?

Speaker 9 (01:04:24):
Being a father?

Speaker 22 (01:04:26):
Majority of the time, the kids are always doing that
that fortnight that wolfs under that the previous caller us
talking about. This is actually quite an interesting game. You know,
you've learned a lot from it as well, like different
birds that they had in the sky during the walls. Yeah,
that's pretty cool.

Speaker 2 (01:04:48):
Are you still recompetitive with any every game you play
because you've got that sort of gift?

Speaker 6 (01:04:55):
I can get like that.

Speaker 22 (01:04:56):
However, I can't remember his name. A few calls back,
he said, you know the golf guy. You know, you're
kind of just you do it for a lot of
you know, there are other things in life sometimes. Do
that makes sense?

Speaker 2 (01:05:14):
Perfect sense? Great Ox starts to hear from you. I
can't find the gavideo game I was hooked on too,
which has caused me a sense of annoyance. I don't
think I imagine it all, but it feels a bit
like that at the stage there were mushrooms. It's like

(01:05:34):
I had to get through different worlds. Well, anyway, I
shall never wonder about that. So maybe it wasn't and
maybe it wasn't Mario, which is bad anyway, not a

(01:05:57):
gamer so to speak, But Age of Empire has got
me good. We are talking people hooked on on video games,
particularly in their later years. It's a terrible expression later years,
isn't it. If it's something you want to talk about,
there's what we're on about tonight. Keep those emails coming
through too, if you've got some of those Marcus saved

(01:06:25):
up for Sega Mega Drive mowing lawns in the early
nineties then PS one, Peers two and four Xbox loved
the Halo series. Bought a PS five for Lockdown, haven't
really used it, even brought over to Bali, but it's
still in the box. It's brawing, but loves solity when
I'm waiting for a flight, etc. What's Judy Robertson said,

(01:06:51):
Judy Robinson sent me a picture of a cake that
what's that cake for? Whose twenty first birthday?

Speaker 9 (01:06:55):
Is it?

Speaker 2 (01:06:55):
But well, done. Looks good, You've got avery clean kitchen.
Get in touch, you want to be on your My
name is Marcus Headle.

Speaker 12 (01:07:02):
Twelve.

Speaker 2 (01:07:04):
Pacific of fifteen is the team that it's playing. I
don't know what the criteria for Pacific of fifteen. You
might know some more about that, but that's on from
ten each sharing comes. Do you think he's still got
it or has he lost his juice? You might want

(01:07:30):
to answer that. I don't know what you'd say. Anyway,
I feel bad for the person that's won two ondred
thousand dollars a lotter and they don't know. I thought
they'd trace you down with videos, so I feel bad

(01:07:52):
they haven't found them. Oh, by the way, Nichola Willis
is having the meeting tonight with Fonterra to find out
about the price of butter, which is kind of weird
because she used to work for Fonterra, so you know
exactly what's going on. I would imagine, but the meetings tonight,

(01:08:23):
Sorry what I reckon? I reckon We're going to hear
nothing good about that. Yes, should meet with Fonterra to
talk about what we can do to make sure news
inders have affordable cheese. Milk and butter. I think she
knows full well white happened because she worked there. That

(01:08:43):
would be my take on that. Thirteen to ten Marcus
till twelve, good evening, full welcome the market.

Speaker 8 (01:08:52):
Yeah.

Speaker 12 (01:08:52):
I'm fifty four years old and currently unempollowed you tonight
towitters and I play games probably ten twelve were of
the day, if not more, and they have done forever.

Speaker 2 (01:09:05):
You play to the end? Did you say.

Speaker 12 (01:09:09):
Pretty much playing ten or twelve hours by the day?

Speaker 4 (01:09:14):
Wow?

Speaker 2 (01:09:15):
What are you mainly playing? Film?

Speaker 12 (01:09:17):
A lot of different things at the same time as
it is, but of things that fall out seventy six,
which is a massive online game, I've got over seven
thousand hours in that one on its own.

Speaker 2 (01:09:34):
Did you find is that a game where you your
upskill the whole way through?

Speaker 12 (01:09:41):
Yes, and that's constantly changing which helps the.

Speaker 7 (01:09:45):
Kind of.

Speaker 12 (01:09:47):
Please keep adding new stuff to drag you back and
all the time, so it's always changing.

Speaker 2 (01:09:53):
What's the other games you play?

Speaker 12 (01:09:54):
Phil, Resident Evils, border Lands, you name it? I don't
thank everything everything in any of whom.

Speaker 2 (01:10:05):
Do you find it comes to your dreams? If you're
playing that much?

Speaker 12 (01:10:09):
Never happened to me?

Speaker 13 (01:10:11):
Really?

Speaker 12 (01:10:12):
Yeah? Well, Basically, I don't sleep anyway, so.

Speaker 2 (01:10:16):
I don't really have dreams, so you don't sleep at all.

Speaker 12 (01:10:20):
I have both up near end insomnia.

Speaker 2 (01:10:23):
So yeah, how much sleep are you getting?

Speaker 18 (01:10:28):
Oh?

Speaker 12 (01:10:29):
On average maybe two hours at night.

Speaker 11 (01:10:33):
Wow.

Speaker 12 (01:10:35):
And I've done marathons and I think my best is
like sixty hours of.

Speaker 2 (01:10:41):
One a game, So you play one game for sixty hours.

Speaker 12 (01:10:45):
I played one game straight through for sixty hours. Yeah.

Speaker 18 (01:10:49):
What was it?

Speaker 12 (01:10:50):
That was back in the day when Minecraft came out,
which is well known as the Family Killer. Yeah, because
the thing was when you're playing with people all around
the world, every time you're about to turn off, someone
else turns on, so you start talking to them and
it goes on and they you go off and someone
else comes on. Next thing you know, it's Day's leader.

Speaker 2 (01:11:14):
What happened at the end of the sixty hours?

Speaker 12 (01:11:17):
I went to sleep for about three hours and got
up and started again.

Speaker 2 (01:11:21):
Brilliant. Wow. Nice to hear from you, Phil, brilliant like
it a lot international news, not much local news, bits
and bobs each year, AND's touring three concerts Auckland, well
Inton at christ Church Nothing in Dunedin. Last time was

(01:11:43):
inn They got that very expensive mural which they bang
on about endlessly. So yes, get in touch Marco still twelve.
Anything else you want to talk about, I'm here for you.
Oh eight hundred and eighty ten eighty nine nine to

(01:12:03):
text on the greyhound situation too, financial support for owners
and trainers as the industry prepares to wind down operation.
I thought that managed to overturn that. I'm surprised end

(01:12:29):
of racing in one year. I thought there would be
a much bigger action from the dog owners, but I'm
not seeing much. So there's that. So now they're talking
about the rehoming of dogs. No one seems to be
talking about reprising it. So there we go. That's they's

(01:12:57):
information there. But yes, be in touch of your talk
marks till twelve. As I say, oh, eight hundred and
eighty ten eighty nine nine two detext there's something different
you want to mention tonight. We're talking about getting engaged,
getting engaged in video games in your older age, or
getting hooked and manner some people hooked playing sixty hours

(01:13:21):
straight flip one? What he ate for sixty hours? Jeepers.
But that's what we're are on about tonight. If you
want to be a part of the show. If there's
something different you want to mention, feel free to get
through and I'm looking forward to what you've got to say.

(01:13:44):
But as I say, Tim's on after midnight tonight and
in the meantime, oh the Rugbys on. I've told you
that huge amount of British Lion supporters truck is the
pound good money must be good because I tell you what,
they've gone to Australia in droves. They've got to Australia

(01:14:08):
and drives. It doesn't strike me has been a particularly
good series because Australia. I mean, any of the home
unions could beat Australia, couldn't they. Wales could probably beat them,
Scotland could, Island could England could? So yeah, maybe it's
just the sense of I don't know, but there's an

(01:14:29):
enormous amount of people wearing the British the Lions kitten,
the and the stands, the supporters jersey, the Canterbury jersey.
Huawann's ken to be well. Now they seem to be
doing all right, the fact they aren't on the side
of the all blecks that they went with the Germans. Anyway,
still in New Zealand Company, it seems to be the

(01:14:52):
strip of choice for all sorts of nations. Get in
touch if you want to talk back after the news,
as I say, eight hundred and eighty ten nine nine
to text Marcus till twelve. If you got something else
you want to mention.

Speaker 14 (01:15:01):
Good.

Speaker 2 (01:15:01):
But we are talking video games, video games. I can't
for the life and we find the name of the
video game I've played, which is annoying me to hick
to put that aside. Not obsessed about that. I think
one of those things I probably won't be able to
find the name of it. It's funny how memory can
play tricks on you, Marcus. I wonder what games Winston

(01:15:23):
Peters has played. He'd played games on his phone, wouldn't
he any royal news? Yes, Prince George's twelve, So it
means he can't fly on a plane with his father anymore,

(01:15:48):
because that's the way what royals do. I didn't know
that till tonight. Anyway, there's that, Marcus. I've sent you
an email with a picture of my grandson's twenty first

(01:16:10):
Leamington birthday cake. He got twenty one. Leamington's people don't
have a piece of cake. They have a Leamington one
tip is to freezer sponge first, makes easy to dip
into the icing they roll in the coconut. A thin
chocolate icing sugar mix is easier. Marcus love your show.
I just know there are many young people gave me
they're addicted to it. Big problem for some parents. Oh,

(01:16:31):
by the way, I mentioned the question last time to
bring that up again. Are we over school photographs? Do
people still want printed photographs or they no longer a thing?
Because what do you do with them? It seems like
putting up photographs around the house kind of that's obsolete
now we look at them on our phones. Just putting
that out. There are some parent involved with some skills,

(01:16:53):
so they pivoted away from photos. Now they just get
the file. I leave that at a topic as well tonight.
It'd be sad if it does end because of a
bit of a tradition. But yeah, I can't see it
going on much longer. That might be something you'd mentioned
to eleven past ten and Ed Sheeran. Do you think

(01:17:13):
he's still got it? Will you still go? Three concerts?
I mean they're big venues too. It's the new venue
in christ Church, it's the Caketon and Wellington and Mount Smart.
So yeah, three big venues there, forty forty fifty forty
fifty thirty, one hundred and twenty thousand tickets, I said,

(01:17:34):
And I suppose I'll do multiple nights too. Yeah, it's
World Hammock Day, and even got a hammock story. Love
a hammock. I don't know what you're supposed to do
with World Hammock Day. I guess relaxed. I think it's

(01:17:56):
probably more worked out for the Northern Hemisphere summer. I
don't think winter's ready hammock weather, is it. I think
the lines I've got to try. It didn't look like
a try to me. It looked like it was held up.

Speaker 3 (01:18:08):
But there we go.

Speaker 2 (01:18:09):
There up five nil. The Pacific side are down to
fourteen men because of a high shot. They've converted that
as of course Northern Hemisphere teams too. They can kick anything,
seece because they do it practice has kick. So seven
nil that's a score at the stage. But yes, fourteen
to ten from ten past ten if you want to

(01:18:31):
be a part of the show. By the way, the
people of Central America introduced Christopher Columbus to the Hammocks,
who brought the concept back to Europe find that interesting.
Thirteen past ten, Doug, it's Marcus. Welcome, good evening, Good evening, Marcus.

Speaker 14 (01:18:56):
How are you good?

Speaker 2 (01:18:57):
Thank you? Doug.

Speaker 3 (01:18:59):
Yeah, I have a question. It's not quite on the
subjects that you had, but being ignorant, probably because being
an American and living here now and looking at things
and taking in New Zealand over the last few years,
it seems like we're being sold out, maybe by farmers
or companies such as Fonterra, looking at and seeing them

(01:19:23):
being questioned about the price of butter tonight that they
don't want to answer it it And I noticed it
was very keenly worded that the price of butter is
being determined by the world market, so it seems like
it would be so cheap here, but since the world
market demands New Zealand butter, we have to pay the

(01:19:44):
price for it. And the same thing with butler, veggies
and cherries and things like that. We don't even know
what the best is of what New Zealand has, it seems.

Speaker 2 (01:19:52):
And the fish and now made products all the best
guys I ever sees.

Speaker 20 (01:19:58):
Yeah, And how do I mean?

Speaker 3 (01:19:59):
I just feel like, you know, am I supposed to
feel bad for the farmers and for the dairy people.
Are they just being raked over the calls as well
in a way and being sold out because you know
of a market that's out there and we pay the
price for it.

Speaker 2 (01:20:16):
Yeah, I don't know what the state of players for
the dairy farmers. I thought the dairy farmers are doing
quite well at the moment every time I mentioned, but
all the farmers say, well, you know, boy oh boy,
we need to get the best we can because times
are tough. But what's the point of a country if
the people can't afford food?

Speaker 3 (01:20:34):
I agree, I agree, I just I just look at
it and I feel like, you know, I'm watching a
program the other night about cherries in New Zealand, and
the guy said, you know, New Zealanders don't even know
what real cherries are supposed to be. They've never had one,
you know, because we ship out the best of the
best out of the country.

Speaker 2 (01:20:54):
So it doesn't seem to work, does it. We live
in this great land, but it's so great that everything
we produce we've got to set it overseas. And Fontia
has changed a lot. Fontira really just makes cheap deer,
you know, it just makes makes milk powder. For a
while there they're going to try and make top brands,
but they've given that up on that. They've just become
a bulk commodity maker. And I mean I know that

(01:21:20):
that that Luxon can talk a good fight and say that,
oh well, we need the foreign dollars for our economy,
but if people can't afford what they're used to it
always had, there's going to be people are getting pretty titchy.

Speaker 3 (01:21:33):
Well, and again it's it's off of our you know,
we're the ones that are paying the price or as
people to have great stuff from New Zealand. And I
just feel like we're being robbed and and and even
probably the producers in the middlemen in between. You have
to keep cutting their prices in order for these people
to just keep making their their their giant salaries on

(01:21:55):
that end, in or out of touch.

Speaker 2 (01:21:59):
Yeah, and I and I don't think we probably saw
that in the poll today. I don't think Luxeon's probably
fil it fairly aware of and I can hearing on
this show, I don't think he's fully aware of how
angry people are.

Speaker 3 (01:22:12):
Yeah, I can I can see that being the case.
And again, you know, these people have a lot on
their plate, but still some things don't affect them as
it does for the person who's just trying to. As
we would say in America, put beans and weenies on
the table and it happens.

Speaker 2 (01:22:28):
I think in every other country, I think the French
would get cheap wine locally. I think every other country,
you know, the thing they produce and as famous for
would be affordable to the locals.

Speaker 3 (01:22:39):
You would think, you would think. I mean, when I
go back to America, it costs me the same price
for a leg of lamb of New Zealand as it
does here. Makes those sense, import So how's that happen?

Speaker 2 (01:22:48):
It makes those sense. They keep saying they're going to
pay more for it overseas, but you know it makes
no sense.

Speaker 3 (01:22:54):
Yeah, it doesn't anyway. I just had that as a
question and I'll hang up and listen to what.

Speaker 12 (01:22:59):
You have to say.

Speaker 2 (01:23:00):
Thanks, thanks so much, then, Steve, it's Marcus.

Speaker 14 (01:23:02):
Welcome, Hey Maka, say good see I am I'm going
to I think I'm thinking pretty carefully about running for
a council here and why can I'm just wondering what
made have voted you and what was your experience and
would you recommend it.

Speaker 2 (01:23:19):
What is Why can I got its own council?

Speaker 14 (01:23:22):
Oh, we've got two councilors on the ca CDCY Cavity
Coast District Council. Yes, so we've got award to two
councilors in the why can I award?

Speaker 2 (01:23:31):
Who's running for it?

Speaker 14 (01:23:34):
Who's running for it? There's a whole bunch of people
running for it. There's two incumbents that are going to
I think run again myself, but I don't know who
else at this stage.

Speaker 2 (01:23:47):
Yeah, I think people tend to just vote for the incumbents.
How depressing is that? Very it seems. I mean, my
only advice to you is that it seems as though
name recognition has a lot to do with it, right,
right is you? Are you someone that's known in the area.

Speaker 14 (01:24:08):
Well, I thought so, but you know, I spoke to
one of the encumbents and he said, well, everybody thinks
they're known by a lot of people. But if you're
in a cafe and you walk out and just tap
Johnny on the shoulder and say, hey, do you know me,
there's a good chance they won't know you. So not
as well known as you might think. But how long
have you been on counsel and what's been your experience.

(01:24:29):
Have you enjoyed the.

Speaker 2 (01:24:30):
Experience only I was on the council and I got
it in a by election, right, and that was probably
because someone why was there a by election? Someone left,
There was a there was a there was a there
was a fight at counsel and someone decided to leave.

(01:24:50):
So I went in at the by election. And then
after i'd been there for about fourteen months, I think
it was I thought I'd go for meya because I
could see what the other options were and perhaps I
could see things that other people couldn't see in hindsight,
and not to worry because you can't you know, you
don't want to have a negative campaign, but you think

(01:25:11):
there's someone you know that probably is not suitable. So
I did what I thought was right. I was motivated
by what I thought was the right well, we're the
right reasons. So when I went for mayor, I didn't
run for council because because then you're going a bit
of a bobb which way, You've got to be all

(01:25:32):
in for mayor. And so I wasn't there for a
long time. Obviously I e Giddon's mayor, but I kind
of look around into card at the moment, and everyone's
putting up there. It seems that all anyone does is
gets that puts up billboards and gets sign written cars

(01:25:55):
and say they're local and loyal and integrity, and they
write all these things, but they're always very short on policy. Yeah, yeah,
because all he rants is less rates and stuff like that.
So it's good. And I think in this modern social
media age, it's hard to get any cut through because
a lot of people are apathetic about local government anyway,

(01:26:17):
and also the media is so fractured it's hard to
work out what's happening. My only advice to you, and
you have left it late. I think it's good to
have a team behind you, so it doesn't like not
not a team. But I think it's important in your
social media and stuff to look like, you know, you

(01:26:38):
are supported, right, you know, because you see shots of
Pep they put things on their Facebook and the hammering up,
hammering things up on signs and always looks like such
a solitary type thing. I mean, it's always good if
you look like there's a group of people behind you.
But if you do become if you do become a candidate,

(01:26:59):
then what I imagine they do is they put out
the voting forms, and with the voting forms, there is
a profile for each person and I think you've got
one hundred and fifty words. Yes, that's right, and I
think the key to it is those words, because when
you think of it, a lot of people vote earliuse.
They want to get it out of the way. They're

(01:27:19):
not going to go to a junk mail and look
at a fly you put out. They're going to look
at that and say, oh, Steve says he's going to
support a Liverpool city or he's going to do this
or do that, and they'll read that and I think
that's with it. And I don't think enough people put
effort into that. And in hindsight probably that's what I
think too. Okay, because you can make that, you can
make billboards and you can ask for people with fences

(01:27:41):
to put things up on. But I don't know if
they're going to think, oh, well, I'm going to vote
for that guy because he had his billboard up on that.
I don't think that because there's going to be billboards everywhere,
isn't there.

Speaker 14 (01:27:52):
Yeah, that's exactly what happens. Yeah, Okay, that's what what
do you believe in? Well, I've had a real heart
for the community. I mean it's been involved in service
clubs and I'm also on the board of the local
Retirement Trust. I'm also heavily involved in basketball, coaching, basketball

(01:28:13):
and kids.

Speaker 17 (01:28:14):
But I think, how old?

Speaker 2 (01:28:18):
How old are you?

Speaker 14 (01:28:20):
I'm sixty five?

Speaker 2 (01:28:23):
Because what I reckon at the council most people there
to just top up their retirement money. And it looks
like you'd be in that. You'd be in that in
that area too, wouldn't you.

Speaker 14 (01:28:33):
Well, I don't need to do it.

Speaker 2 (01:28:35):
No, they but everyone I've met in councils said they
don't need to do it, right and every single one.
And I thought, well, they're saying they don't need to
because they're going to get They're not take the money.
But every single person that said that, oh you know,
you said you don't need the money. Oh, so what
are you going to do with it? I'm taking it?

Speaker 9 (01:28:52):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:28:53):
So yeah, So it's full of It's full of retired, old,
wealthy people basically that sit around and seem quite miserable
and angry with their lot. That's my take on it.

Speaker 14 (01:29:06):
Oh that's disappointing.

Speaker 2 (01:29:08):
Yeah, but that's why. But that's but that's why because
people don't Yeah, because it's seen as a second cousin
to to to you know, central central government, doesn't it.

Speaker 12 (01:29:18):
Yeah.

Speaker 14 (01:29:19):
Yeah, we've actually got quite a young counselor from PI
kark Sophie.

Speaker 2 (01:29:25):
Oh god, he's got a young woman that's extraordinary.

Speaker 14 (01:29:29):
She's in her twenties.

Speaker 2 (01:29:30):
So that's unbelievable. So would you be would you be
going up against her? No?

Speaker 14 (01:29:35):
No, No, she's in a different ward.

Speaker 2 (01:29:37):
Oh okay, it's all wards. You're Pike, she's pi k
Akadeka and you'll wake an eye.

Speaker 14 (01:29:42):
Yeah that's right, yep, that's exactly right.

Speaker 2 (01:29:45):
And the thing is probably you want to you know,
if you if you're going to go next time, you
want to go this time as well to get out there.
Maybe yeah, I don't, I don't know, but but the
count the counselor seemed to have been there for a
long time and they probably seem slightly over it. I
think they probably. I think they probably should be a
limit of like two or three terms so you can
tune through a little bit more. There'd be my take.

Speaker 14 (01:30:07):
There seems to be a huge learning curve to process
and all that kind of stuff though.

Speaker 2 (01:30:11):
Did you find that, you mean to process information and stuff.

Speaker 14 (01:30:15):
Well, the way they function way council functions and all
that kind of stuff.

Speaker 2 (01:30:19):
No, there's very good. I found there's very good people
there that to support you and give the background to
everything you're voting on. You're actually you know that there
is a lot of information provided to you. They're very
that the council staff themselves are very good at informing
you on all the discussions. So you're not just yeah,

(01:30:40):
they certainly they certainly explain everything to extremely well and
have all the information for you. So yeah, so that
stuff that you think could be terrifying is not terrifying
at all because you are told all the information. So yeah,
they yeah, and that was quite a relief as far
as all that stuff goes. So they do certainly go.

Speaker 15 (01:30:57):
To the way.

Speaker 2 (01:30:58):
There's financial advisors and all sorts of people the whole
way that explain the issues to you. Great, great, Yeah,
good luck, Steve. I hope it goes well for you.
It's a good question. So talking about Peter's coming up,
they are asking for more and more people to run
because they're saying it's important, Marcus, maybe we should buy
our butter from our foreign buyers and retail it. Therefore,

(01:31:19):
we could actually buy at the foreign price level if
our butter can be bought at low in prices even
with the added freight cost of those foreign markets. Only
my thought, I'm going to make my own butter. There's
a side on YouTube how to make butter. That's from Shane.
I think you're going to buy quite a cream. Someone
said a text that says the new stadium in cross Chitch.

Speaker 16 (01:31:38):
What's that?

Speaker 2 (01:31:39):
Reference to Marcus School photos are ridiculously expensive. Photo lives
should be ashamed. They offer digital and printed portrait and
sibling photos about twenty five to thirty six dollars depending
on size. Oh, so it's not sigul to open. So

(01:32:00):
I'll find out where he's at wusy opening. And where's
he playing in christ Judge Dan, is it the one
where the rugby is?

Speaker 3 (01:32:08):
Oh?

Speaker 2 (01:32:08):
Okay, So the new stadium's not open till April, so
he must be playing in the old stadium. I'll check.
I'll confume that for you people fourteen twelve kick to come,
they kick the ball. I missed that. By the way.
If Winston wants to get some votes, what he needs

(01:32:29):
to do. Oh yeah, they're successful. The confusion for it
in all. If Winston wants to get, what he should
do is pass a law that you can't keep changing
the stadium's names. Go media, What is that? So Ed
Sheeran is playing at Apollo Project stadium? I assume that
would be the new one, but it's not. That's the

(01:32:50):
old one, Apollo Projects. It's crazy they sell the sponsors right,
so no one's got any idea what stadium's what. So
that's a shame for d Shearon because that looks like
it's a bit of a fizz of that stadium. Thirty
thousand people though for a once in a lifetime concert
under the stars. We are talking video games for older people.

(01:33:16):
What are you playing? And if you got hooked on
something on your phone, I'd be curious about that. What's
your secret phone pleasure? She's probably quite depressing. What some
of the games are playing? Farmsville or something? Are they?
You might have found some really good ones. So we
are talking about that as much as other stuff tonight, Marcus.

(01:33:40):
If we think dairy products are expensive, now just wait
till Fonterra sell its local consumer brand business. No one
is going to buy without ensuring they get a good return.
He's in it will bitt the mercy of the new
business owners. Marcus random question why a truck drivers turn
their indicators on when they pass each other just to
say get ay, keep themselves awake. Why wouldn't they it's
a community. Oh and I want to mention this in a.

Speaker 3 (01:34:07):
In a.

Speaker 2 (01:34:10):
Considered and now what's the word I'm looking for? Non
hysterical way. When I sat and did the show three
or four years ago, people were.

Speaker 11 (01:34:33):
Or were.

Speaker 2 (01:34:38):
Really agitated about vaping, and it's back in the news
now with the fact that some people are saying that
one of the products, Sun Tree vanilla cream is unsafe
for use. Yeah, but like cigarettes might give you poppy lung,

(01:35:02):
popcorn lung. But what I wanted to know it's got
formaldehyd in it, which I think is harmful to work,
and so they've stopped it. What I want to know
from people is, boy, it's a rough looking match.

Speaker 3 (01:35:16):
That's one.

Speaker 2 (01:35:16):
There's a bit a niggle everywhere they're playing dirty the English.
What I want to know is if there is still
that huge concern amongst parents of people at secondary school
as to whether we are in the middle of a

(01:35:38):
vaping epidemic, or if, like I imagined that, we've kind
of ignored it and it the hysterias died down. So
you've got something to say about that, give us a call.
Oh eight hundred eighty year, just the state of vaping.
Oh eight hundred eighty ten eighty. By the way, with
the specific team against the Lions, they've scored twice with

(01:35:58):
fourteen players, and looks like they might be losing another
too because they've got the English rattled on. Oh that
guy's pulling, that guy's here, and that guy's fought back.
Good on him anyway, So if you want to talk
about that too, Oh eight hundred and eighty ten eighty
nine two nine two to text, twenty five away from eleven.
So yeah, just the thing with vaping at schools, because
for a while they're there vaping and toilets and people

(01:36:20):
already worked up about it. They haven't heard people going
on about it recently, So yes, you want to talk
about that'd be good to hear from you. Oh eight
hundred eighty ten eighty and nine two nine two to
text if you want to come through. Also talk about
video games. A third of people in America playing video
games are in. There are fifty and over, so you
might want to mention that also tonight, So yeah, get

(01:36:40):
in touch Oha eight hundred eighty thirty nine two nine
to text markus still twelve. I don't think there's another
yellow card and that rugby fair enough too because they
are winding them up. So yes, text me if you
can block blast is my game of choice. You only
need to see Ed sheer in. Want same gig, different

(01:37:02):
color scheme. Yeah, it's like he's out and John. He's
got a big back cannon. He's got a few, but
it's not like he's got sixty years of songs, so
it's interesting he's come back higher Eyeblaze play Backgammon on
my iPad. Incessent, incessantly re addictive. Max says what happens

(01:37:29):
to all the billboards and wooden framings once the election
is over? Land fill bonfire car shed. I made a
sheep shelter with mine, Hi, Marcus. The reason truckies put
their hazards on when passing is a courtesy as the

(01:37:49):
truck is overtaken can be difficult to gauge when they
have clearly passed the truck being passed flesh as they
like to let the overtaker know they're clear. I hope
that helps, Mike. I think they just worked out why
they're flashing each other trucks when they're passing other trucks,
like different directions when they're going past with different directions. Yeah,
you know what I'm saying. By the way, I'm only
watching this rugby match halfheartedly because I'm at work. I

(01:38:12):
think probably it looks like the British lines might not
now have a player off, although it's confusing with the
way it's put up there. But and if anyone's got
the information about that, they could come through with quickly.
I wouldn't mind some information. I'll see if I can
find some. Could you have a bit of a look
for me, Dane, there's any sort of rolling cover James

(01:38:36):
Ryan's and the sin but what do you do? Too
many penalties given given away by the blinds, so it
seems like the ref just blue his whistle. So yes,
so there we go.

Speaker 14 (01:38:47):
So the.

Speaker 2 (01:38:49):
First nation specific player is back on and I think
the lines player is off. But yes, certainly the if
you want to go look watch this match if you're
a Pacific A supporter, because they are thumping, I mean
some of the tackles are extraordinary, and they've got the
lions rattled it you rattled. Surprise, there's a midweek game.

(01:39:09):
I'm addicted to coloring apps on my iPad. Z in
color is my favorite. Wow, coloring it on the iPad.
Never thought of that? Then do you print them out
or just do another one? So we're talking about the
playing video games in your fifties and sixties and longer
and anything else. By the way, I'm looking at that

(01:39:30):
Lamington cake. No, no, to Leamington cake. Looks very very good.
I should look closer at it. My bad anyway, welcome
Marcus till Midnight if you want to be part of
the show. Video games is mainly what we are talking
about tonight. And butter. I mean the thing about butter

(01:39:53):
that's frustrating or frustrates me, as we've got the first
term of a three party coalition and they seem to
not be loving their time and power, partly because of

(01:40:14):
their coalition deals and the bad will that has caused
the government with protests and the like, but also too
that prices are up and people are doing it tough
because the things that are up are rates because of
the water. But the national government stopped three Waters, which

(01:40:39):
is going to take all the pipes away, So it
would have meant the rates would have gone down because
most of the rates that have fixed the pipes that
are so badly maintained because no one wants to spend
on them because they're scared of getting voted out of council.
So it's the rates, and it's the power, and it's food.
And we all got a soup market several times a week.
We can see how expended the food is. So really

(01:41:00):
and they can say that there's this and there's that,
and it's the international money and we need the foreign
dollars and what. But the but what the government really
needs to do is they need to win. And if
they managed to say okay, fonterra, you know, and there'd
be ways they could do it. And if they managed
to get a victory there and reduce the price of butter,

(01:41:22):
then I think there would be some good will for
the government because it's been sorely lacking good will for
the government because they haven't had the victories. But it's
butter that's going to go on or not, because you know,
you know how politics there's quite quite complicated things like
resource management and stuff like that. It's complicated. Get the
heads around. They're not confident have an opinion on it.
But when you go down to the pub or to

(01:41:44):
your scrabble club, or to your mar jong group, or
talking to someone waiting at the train station, fairly straightforward
conversation starter is Gee, how about that price of butter.
It's a really easy thing to understand that butter used
to be about four dollars a pound now it's about fourteen,

(01:42:05):
and that it's just sort of stuff. It's you know,
it's not the complicated stuff that hurts governments. It's the
really simple stuff with people think, hey, that's wrong, we're
paying too much. That's my take on it anyway. So yeah,
I wouldn't be surprised if there's pressure now behind the
scenes for Willis to get some result. If she doesn't,
if it's just more talk, because remember she used to
work there. If she comes away and nothing changes, then

(01:42:31):
your things aren't going to get rosier for this government
because people, you know, it's people vote on cost of living,
convinced of it. Cost goos must be making a profit
just on butter. Yeah, I don't know how that's working
with the cost guy. I really love to know how
much they're paying for it, because they're selling a ton

(01:42:54):
of it. All comes from Hoker Ticka from the Chinese
own company, and it goes around the world. Kirklands, it's
not just in New Zealand. Don't print them out. They
are color by number. Marcus. Look at the Lamington reef

(01:43:21):
on Google Images. I made for my son's partner for
her birthday. Really delicious and looks very good and so simple,
not much to make it just had to be semled
after buying the Leamington super easy. Oh you bought the
Leamington's Lamington reef on Google Images. That's a fairly good
thing to say. Look at that looks great, looks very straightforward.

(01:43:50):
Lamington reef. Put them in a circle cream between strawberries
on the top and chocolate triangles. Boom boom. Fer let's sort.
Don't want to know what Murray dec was going about
of a hood of Kawa tree, Marcus Chilli half a
degree here in upperhut. Already a frost on the deck
that's in the garage with the heater on. So that's
his whiskers, so that his whiskers don't freeze. Ordered to

(01:44:12):
freezer full of meat. Very satisfying, but expensive. I didn't
I was asking about vaping too. So is the vaping
hystere at the high school's over? That's my question. I've
forgot my question. Anyway, It's take a break twelve away
from eleven Good Evening. Bennett's Marcus welcome.

Speaker 13 (01:44:30):
Yeah you, Marcus. This whole vape thing, it's your original
idea was just to transition people from cigarettes.

Speaker 3 (01:44:39):
Is that right?

Speaker 2 (01:44:39):
Yeah, that's right?

Speaker 13 (01:44:41):
Or is that just part of this sort of line?

Speaker 2 (01:44:46):
I think now, I think that was the I think
that was the situation initially. But then I think the
tobacco companies right realized that they could get the teenagers
into it because it was all quite. The teenagers preferred
it because I had the slick these slick packs in
America called jewels, right, that appeal brightly colored, no smoke.
So it started as a smoking cessation thing. But the

(01:45:08):
tobacco company is always looking to get teenagers hooked on
something new, so they marketed it and the teenagers took
it up, and that's kind of what's happened.

Speaker 13 (01:45:16):
And then you have all these fancy flavors that are
going to be teenagers going to jump at that.

Speaker 2 (01:45:22):
Yeah, although I think I think they've limited they're trying
to limit the number of flavors. But yeah, I don't
know if the teenagers are into it anymore. I haven't
heard the hysteria like I heard two or three years ago.

Speaker 13 (01:45:33):
Well, fingers crossed, because my children are at primary and
I'm already stressing that just getting into high school. And
then there's energy drinks and that all that jazz and
you were.

Speaker 2 (01:45:44):
My parents, My parents, My children are at ones, at prime, ones, intermediate,
and they've never talked about it.

Speaker 13 (01:45:51):
Oh that's great, And I haven't really want to hear.

Speaker 2 (01:45:53):
And I haven't really come across it either. I haven't
seen the kids in blood vaping, and it doesn't seem
to be It doesn't seem to be an issue at all.
And you know, I think what is an issue? Yeah,
I don't know. I don't I don't know if energy
drinks is initie either. Actually, I don't know. I suppose

(01:46:14):
there's the odd kid that will get some money for
lunche and by an energy drink just to try it out.

Speaker 13 (01:46:17):
But that's good to feel, if that turning the page
on what's actually cool and not just all these other
books and pieces.

Speaker 2 (01:46:26):
Yeah, because you never see people you very really see
young people smoking. Now that's right, because once upon a
time it quite often, say school kids, you know, covidly
at the bus stop will sort of hiding a cigarette
in their hand. Now, not much at all. Do you
want to talk about rugby as well? You know what

(01:46:52):
happened to He's okay, kind of tapped out, didn't he?
Good lippening Pete markers.

Speaker 14 (01:46:58):
Marks.

Speaker 20 (01:46:59):
We're gotting the butter and that is there any butter
like milk cheese?

Speaker 9 (01:47:04):
We produced it here.

Speaker 20 (01:47:07):
If the farmers are really clever, I'm a farming background myself.

Speaker 18 (01:47:12):
I know about farming.

Speaker 6 (01:47:12):
Did mom and dad at a farm?

Speaker 15 (01:47:15):
So if the.

Speaker 20 (01:47:16):
Farmers really wanted to sharpen up their pencil, and they
really want National to stay in for.

Speaker 6 (01:47:24):
Another term, the right things are going right now is
labor might be getting and they already knew what labor
damage they did to the farmers. So if are smart enough,
they will drop their prices come to like twenty percent
off of something from we not paying export prices.

Speaker 20 (01:47:45):
Which I think is wrong. Most of these users do
so if.

Speaker 6 (01:47:48):
They want to be greedy.

Speaker 20 (01:47:51):
And and then National don't get it because that they
pick heading and greedy. Well there is ebys coming towards them.

Speaker 2 (01:48:00):
Yeah, because certainly it's something people will vote on. Fourteen
dollars pounds of butter will cause people to actually think, well,
this government's not working.

Speaker 20 (01:48:08):
They're right if you're not. They're not looking after It's
that simple markets. We're paying export prices, we're not shipping
it to And.

Speaker 2 (01:48:18):
You'd be in New Zealand first National voter as well,
wouldn't you.

Speaker 20 (01:48:22):
Well that's your size the point.

Speaker 2 (01:48:24):
No, but you are, but you are some You are
someone that supports the government and would have voted them in.
And you're not happy with the price of butter.

Speaker 20 (01:48:32):
Yes, not only butter, there should be all dairy products.
Farmers all know that we're straggling. They're doing quite good now.
It's a bit about let's give a little bit back
for the people that are straggling. They want to be greedy,
they don't want to drop their prices. Well, what comes
around goes around. I won't for sorry for them if
they lose the National Party which is supporting them right now,

(01:48:54):
Please think about farmers change or actually, don't be so greedy,
drop your prices on the basic things like milk, butter
and cheese.

Speaker 9 (01:49:02):
That's simple.

Speaker 2 (01:49:04):
Yeah, I think it's I think you're I think you
hit the now on the head there, Pete. Thank you.
Nice to hear from you. I'd also aid Sharon, is
he back too soon?

Speaker 4 (01:49:14):
Like?

Speaker 2 (01:49:14):
How would you say? He's sort of a mid Caurier artist,
isn't he? But I guess people go there and drives
because he seems so likable. GP Chap with the guitar,
smiley face, doesn't take himself too seriously, doesn't behave like Oasis.
I think people respond to that quite well in New Zealand.

(01:49:36):
But certainly he's coming from other bite at the cherry.
There'll be Sharon Mania early next year. Eleven eleven suits
Marcus good evening.

Speaker 8 (01:49:47):
I'd just like to say, have say about butter. Why
do they have to sell the butter and such big blocks?
I watch a cooking program and out of America and
I think in Canada they do it too, and they

(01:50:08):
sell them and sticks, yes, so why can't we have
sticks of butter? And what people are going on about
how many people really buy a pounder butler? I mean,
you know, I think this butter thing and against mister

(01:50:31):
Luxton and his government. I think it's outrageously ridiculous, and
I think that the people that make the butter, I
think they should get with the program and realize that
a lot of people don't have but but more people
like me would buy a small amount of butter, which
I can only buy if I buy a garlic one

(01:50:54):
or a fence. You wonder the only little sticks of
butter you can buy in a supermarket. And that's all
I have to say.

Speaker 2 (01:51:02):
It's much easier if you're cooking if it's made in stick,
so they don't know why they've got it like that
over there point, So thank you. Thanks for making that point, Marcus. Yes,
I'm one of those. I'm playing Royal Match like your
earlier caller, as I do most nights since no time
to call you. I'm at level seven. I'm at level
seven thousand and seventy nine and counting. That's Megan fifty eight. Meaghan,

(01:51:25):
how long has it taken you to get to that level?
Seven thousand and seventy nine, Joe, it's Marcus. Good evening, Hi, Margus.

Speaker 8 (01:51:34):
I'm just wondering if the Tom Phillips and his children
have been spied.

Speaker 2 (01:51:40):
If there've been What.

Speaker 13 (01:51:43):
Has that been seen?

Speaker 2 (01:51:45):
I think we would have heard if they'd been seeing Joe.
Kind of it kind of defies belief, doesn't it.

Speaker 10 (01:51:52):
Oh, it's time.

Speaker 2 (01:51:54):
It's unbelievable, sure is. How would you manage to survive
unassisted and get food for first for four people? I
just can't imagine what's going on there. Just I just
can't work it out.

Speaker 8 (01:52:15):
All that bad weather that we've had too.

Speaker 2 (01:52:18):
Yes, although they could be in caves, but you think
of that. In caves, you'd need fire to keep warm
and that would give off smoke.

Speaker 10 (01:52:25):
True, No, someone must be helping them.

Speaker 2 (01:52:29):
But even so, unless they're not in that area and
they've gone overseas.

Speaker 8 (01:52:37):
That hardy who are out of the country.

Speaker 2 (01:52:39):
Would they well, I guess people can on boats and
ships and so it would be difficult. But there was
that guy from Carfie that sailed with his five year
old daughter. Remember he went to Australia, That's right, and
he was found and they brought him back. I think
he was found. Was he found? I believe he was found.
We'll talk about it, Joe. Thank you, Marcus. I can

(01:53:01):
cooperate what you say about vapes no longer been popular.
I know a person who made a lot of money
for importing vape products. They got out to the market
about three years ago, as they said it was about
to fail. My daughter's a teacher intermediate school level, and
she said, there is no longer the problem with the
uptake of vapor they used to have. Thank you for that.

(01:53:23):
And the person that's at over level seven thousand on
the video games probably taken me four or five years
to get this far. Only play this game and mother,
So when I've had enough, I do go and do
something that is not a video game. Which game is that?
By the way? Oh, that's balls all coming together in
lining up, isn't it?

Speaker 16 (01:53:52):
Gee?

Speaker 2 (01:53:52):
The Olivarny's cheap? Isn't five point forty five? What about
I tell you about that Lupak butter starts vider it's
for turnograms. It's it's smaller, isn't it? Sixteen fifty for
mainland butter Semisoft salted five hundred grams the West Gold

(01:54:19):
nine ninety five. That's the low price at the moment.
Gary Marcus, welcome, Yeah.

Speaker 14 (01:54:27):
Holi Marcus.

Speaker 15 (01:54:28):
I just want to comment on the price of the
food and the quality of our food that we get
here in New Zealand is anyone. I don't know whether
anyone has. But ask the tourists what they think when
they come to New Zealand of visit and they get
all the bad food at prices that are dreer than
what they can get the New Zealand top quality food

(01:54:52):
in their country. I don't think they want to come back, the.

Speaker 2 (01:54:55):
Tourists and that I'm pressed with the food here.

Speaker 15 (01:54:58):
Yeah, okay, they are able, they aren't you.

Speaker 2 (01:55:01):
Aren't They find it very expensive? Yes, yes, we did
the key with dollars low, so I think their accommodation
works out.

Speaker 15 (01:55:10):
Okay, yeah, I mean the government wants to get the
tourists in, which is great, great for a country, but
they've got to serve them well when they're here, don't they.

Speaker 2 (01:55:19):
Well I don't really know how good it is to
get the tourists here, because tourism is a very low
wage economy. You don't make a huge I mean, you know,
you're just paying people to wait on tables and stuff.
It's not exactly developing computer games or anything, is it.
It's not a high tech kind of an industry.

Speaker 14 (01:55:37):
Yeah, no, you're right right.

Speaker 8 (01:55:39):
It just.

Speaker 15 (01:55:41):
I mean everybody is just crying and suffering with all
the price of the food and the quality of the
food isn't isn't good, you know. I mean we get
better stuff from Australia, their meats and stuff, and that
wouldn't mean the best quality either.

Speaker 2 (01:56:00):
I mean all the best meat goes overseas, all the
best fish goes overseas, and it seems all the best
dairy products goes overseas. Yeah, and fruit, well, cherries and
stuff like that. That's right.

Speaker 15 (01:56:12):
Yeah, So you know it's kind of to give back
to New Zealand, isn't it.

Speaker 16 (01:56:17):
I mean, we don't know.

Speaker 2 (01:56:18):
I don't know what the solution. I mean, that's sort
of the downfall of the sort of the well oiled
international trade system as you can realize the true value
of a god. But it's not really the role of
being in New Zealand. Or is it that you've got
to actually live in this land that grows grass great,
but you can't even product as a result of it

(01:56:39):
because you can't afford it.

Speaker 14 (01:56:41):
Yep, it's true.

Speaker 15 (01:56:42):
Maybe a percentage. I mean the farmers could have to
give a percentage of a good quality in to New
Zealand before they seen it all over seas. Yes, maybe
that could work or something.

Speaker 2 (01:56:56):
And the thing is, I get a lot of texts
from farmers that, you know, they're furious. They are, well,
why could shouldn't we get the best product? But the
thing is that that that's fine if they want to
say that, but at some deep level, most people in
New Zealand think it's incredibly unfair. Yes, the country that
produces so much and charges that we need to pay

(01:57:17):
international prices for it.

Speaker 15 (01:57:19):
Yeah. I mean who supports the farmers when when they
have a drought, or they have a flooding, or they
have a storm go through and ruin all their crops.
I mean they a lot of them get a hand
out and that's great.

Speaker 14 (01:57:33):
That's fine.

Speaker 15 (01:57:33):
I haven't got a problem with that.

Speaker 12 (01:57:35):
But how about it coming a little bit back?

Speaker 2 (01:57:39):
Yeah, I can't work out what the other solution is.
How whether another player could come into the market and
focus on butter or what they could do. There must
be there must be some some situation that when they
see with long time planning, that they could do. I
don't know what it is yet.

Speaker 15 (01:57:58):
Yeah, it's once again competition.

Speaker 2 (01:58:03):
Frontier has got you know, no one else really is
making butter.

Speaker 16 (01:58:06):
Yeah, years ago.

Speaker 15 (01:58:08):
I wanted to make gallic better before it came out
on the scene, which we're talking thirty forty years ago,
and I couldn't buy cream or butter at a discount
price to make my gallic buttera to put into the supermarkets.
So I didn't go ahead. It just wasn't profitable to

(01:58:28):
do that. And you know, someone wants to buy a
lot of butter to do it, and they weren't coming
to the party. So they just got monopoly. They just say,
would take it to leave it.

Speaker 2 (01:58:41):
And Fontier is a strange beast. You know, it's not
a bit. It makes it recomplicated to one of the
understand the economics of it with Fontier, the fact that
they are I mean, I think the government mandated, aren't
they that they put them together. It's a cooperative.

Speaker 15 (01:58:57):
Yeah, yep. So as here, that's really all I've got
to say.

Speaker 3 (01:59:03):
You know, my little piece, So.

Speaker 2 (01:59:06):
Thank you for Have you stopped buying butter?

Speaker 15 (01:59:10):
No, I can't do with that butter. I mean, there's
nothing like a butter on toast or or you know,
a buzzard sandwich. You know, it's just the magarines are fine,
are good, but they just don't taste the same. You know,
it's like going in the fish and chip shop and
buying a blue cod for your fish, and then you

(01:59:34):
have to go in and buy a piece of shark. Nothing,
there's nothing wrong with shark, but you know, the flavors
are different.

Speaker 11 (01:59:40):
You know.

Speaker 2 (01:59:41):
Nice to hear from you. Thanks Garry, Lilie. It's Marcus.
Good evening.

Speaker 11 (01:59:46):
Oh hi, Marcus. I took a box of lemons and
today because my husband had chemo, so I took a
box in and I mean they disappeared pretty damn quick.

Speaker 2 (01:59:56):
How do you mean, I mean people at the hospital.

Speaker 11 (02:00:00):
Yeah, yeah, because not everybody has them. No, people love
it in the winter, take them into it, leave them
at the hospital or something. And I mean there's so
many people go in there, visitor isn't going to snow. Well,
there's so many people that don't have them. Yes, And
also today, Marcus, they had a special. We went shopping
afterwards and they had a special attack and say which

(02:00:24):
was a damn good special, which was a big boxes
of wheat picks. They were two sixty six super special
there right. Anyway, when I got home and checked the bill,
because my herby sort of paiper it on the way
out nights and pay for it. But they were three ninety.
But everybody just about it in that supermarket had that wheatbax.
So if they all paid that extra, which was another

(02:00:48):
fifty percent, isn't it on top of that they're making
a good profit. So I'm ringing them tomorrow because that's
against the Fair Trading Act.

Speaker 2 (02:00:56):
It's terrible, it happens so often.

Speaker 11 (02:00:59):
Yeah, I'm ringing them tomorrow. I'm saying, that's sense, it's
a fair trading Act. And how many people did they
do that too?

Speaker 22 (02:01:04):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (02:01:04):
Okay, and met you had it right. It said two
fifty at.

Speaker 11 (02:01:07):
The thing, two sixty six and it was three ninety
on the film. It was a limit of two packs. No,
look at a good price, which you can't get it
for that price. But at the end of the day,
that is against a fair Trading Act because they advertised
it for sixty six.

Speaker 2 (02:01:28):
That's crazy a that makes me so angry.

Speaker 11 (02:01:31):
Yeah, well, I'm reading tomorrow and I'm telling them that
they breached the fair trading pack.

Speaker 2 (02:01:36):
And save turns forty and we're celebrating. Yep, Today's super Birthday,
super Deal sanitarym weekbooks one point two dilograms only two
sixty six each. Yep, that's just one hundred grams straight
from ninety five prices limited to per customer yep, in
store only North Island wil Stocks last.

Speaker 11 (02:02:00):
Yeah, so they've breached that by charging.

Speaker 5 (02:02:02):
More at the till.

Speaker 2 (02:02:03):
Yeah, absolutely, So, I.

Speaker 11 (02:02:05):
Mean how many did they do that too? Because most
people got.

Speaker 2 (02:02:07):
It and you looked at the tell hasn't got the
price and then the reduction underneath it, because sometimes they
put that there as well.

Speaker 11 (02:02:13):
No, no that's not there. I checked the whole thing.
So yeah, anyway, so I'm ringing them tomorrow and I'm
telling them that that they've they've reached it.

Speaker 2 (02:02:21):
I'd go and are you close to it?

Speaker 16 (02:02:24):
No, no, we're not.

Speaker 11 (02:02:25):
We're not close by. Well we're like, you know, forty
minutes away. Okay, But I mean I'll keep my bill
and then i'll ring them tomorrow and tell them who
the checkout guy was because it'are written on your on
your account?

Speaker 2 (02:02:38):
Yes, And I take they've they've been hit up before
one they're always always I take you to the Comics Commission.

Speaker 11 (02:02:48):
Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah yeah. So anyway, I'll ask them
what they're going to do about it, and well you've.

Speaker 2 (02:02:56):
Got to get it for free. They've got to give.
I mean that's what at least Countdown has the guts
if they wrongly charge or something, you get to you
get it for free.

Speaker 11 (02:03:04):
Well that's right, yeah, absolutely, So I'll read our npack
and save tomorrow. And I didn't bother tonight, you know
what I mean.

Speaker 16 (02:03:11):
But I'll do it tomorrow.

Speaker 11 (02:03:12):
But tell those people with the lemons, I mean, take
them into the hospital or something or some community thing
and just leave them there for people to, you know,
to do use them, because I mean, you can only
use so many yourself.

Speaker 2 (02:03:25):
Nice to hear from me, Let me thank you. Costco
Butter is Westland Dairy Butter. We branded on contract for
them Bazar. I think Costco can sell our butter cheaper.
I think people know what Costco is, what the where
the butter's come from? Marcus, they should make lemon cello. Also,
what's up with hedgehogs? Why can't they learn just to

(02:03:46):
cheer the hedge, share the hedge juice lemons. Marcus. Putting
a steplock bag lay flat and a freezer then break
off as you need takes up their space in the freezer.
Marcus talk about dairy. What about the price of meat.
One leg of lamb, Oh my god, leg of lamb
fifty to sixty dollars mints over twenty bucks of crazy

(02:04:06):
a tiligram? Crazy? Why do we have to pay export prices?
Make lemon marmalade, Ray Marcus. The Costco butter is made
of the South Island by West Go. They ship it
all the way to Auclands, sold for nine ninety nine
per kilogram. Why can't they supply direct to the public

(02:04:27):
or local stores and the South Island for the same price.
You'd be furious if you lived in a hoker ticker.
Marcus has changed the subject. He won't tell me how
to reheat chips from the fish and chip shop, so
they're nice the next day. I think people will say
you're air fryer. I always check my pack and save

(02:04:53):
dock and the car park. I've been overcharged a few times.
They always say forgot to change the price at the
tell no excuse. You have had executive safe experience.

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