I think it's the door (6 September 2024)

Your Friday free-for-all covers bands you used to hate and then changed your mind on, things you've persevered in, being colour blind, and the wave of Thai cannabis that swept Auckland in the late 80s.

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Speaker 1 (00:07):
You're listening to the Marcus lush Night's podcast from News
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Speaker 2 (00:13):
My name is Marcus Headle. Twelve full of Beans, Full
of Beans working from the new office. Fourth day and
the new office decided to have a shower at work. Well,
that went about as well as you can imagine. I'll
tell you what was wrong with the shower. There was
no soap, so I had to get the soap out
of the dispenser, and it was foam sober didn't really

(00:36):
lather up because there was no towels. That was problematic.
So anyway, I've turned the heating up to try and
dry the place out. But anyway, that was me a
poor snature. I feel very refreshed. I think I'll actually
make that part of my ritual. Yeah, I don't know.
The shower at Hoiman's kind of very noisy door. I

(00:56):
just thought about that. I thought, why did I like showers?
I think it's the door. I don't know those magnetic doors.
I feel bits of OCD about the door. Never liked it.
I don't like the way it makes that noise when
it shuts. So yeah, I don't why I've got to
shower with a door like that, but there we go.
But there was plenty of room in the work one

(01:20):
just no soap anyway, Greetings, welcome, how you're going. People?
A fair bit to talk about tonight. I'll throw some
stuff at it. You will see what sticks. Some will,
some won't. That's just the nature of it. The dridge
has moved. I was Debbie Downer on the dridge. I
don't think it was going anywhere, but that they had
a window of opportunity. And the Manaho is now back

(01:43):
out at sea. It's been successfully refloated. That's huge news.
Best news of the day is the Manaho that's back up,
that is running. Who was there for that? Got the
updates about that? Let me know. I don't know how
they managed to do it. I'll rate till I get
the Maritime magazine at work there at home. There might
be something in that about it. How they managed to

(02:06):
uplift that, But seems to have gone smoothly. That's the
Manaho off Carter's Beach, to the west of Westport. I
always thought it was south, but actually look at the map,
it's pretty much west. So there is that now some
other stuff I can tell you. I have decided that
I'm excited tonight after eleven o'clock to do a sweep

(02:30):
o so the best sweepstake on the rug because there
has not been a test that I've been interested about
for a long long time. Firstly, and I like that guy.
What's his name, Chris Cummings. Is there his name? He's
a former athlete, does he? Yeah? I like what he? Oh,
that's why he's banging on about the old cricket, the
black Caps. That's right. Well, here you go about Yeah,

(02:51):
there you go black Cap as he should be. I'll
tell you something. He's right. I don't like to watch
a game delayed, like I watched the game at six
o'clock last Sunday because it at Queenstown and staying with
some other people. Don't want to bounce around the house
too early. But we watched at six. Kids are up.
Us still remind felt that people could walk in any

(03:13):
moment and say, all, well, there's that player being sent
off in the ambulance. I thought there's going to be
something that someone was going to not realize that we
were watching it pre recorded and we're going to blow
it for us. I also wasn't confident when I turned
the TV on and I wasn't going to see the
last minutes of the game and see the score. I'm
a huge believer in watching it live. I also believe

(03:36):
when you watch it live, something psychic happens because you
can't really support a team, right can you? When the results?
You can't come on, come on? God, it's already over
bearing in mind. You can't really say come on, come
on when it's live because no one can hear you.
But I'm a huge believer in watching sport live. Can't
believe you can watch it pre recorded because then also

(04:00):
for me, what I'll have anything? Oh, this is a
bring off fast forward that and once you started fast forwarding,
once you started just start riding the remote, you go
all the way. Actually, just see how it ends. So
tell me I'm right about this. I'm with your Craig coming.
I'm right about this. You've got to watch sport live.
I'm a big believer in getting up and watching it live.
But we're also gonna have a sweepee probably tonight. If

(04:24):
anyone's got a prize. It doesn't need to be a
big prize. But if you've got a prize, you can
donate for the sweep o. That's always good. I've got
a key ring. Have we gonna let me up key ring?

Speaker 3 (04:35):
Well?

Speaker 2 (04:35):
Have we got anything else to give away? Dan, we're
in Sydney books or anything? What about the chemist warehouse shelfers?
It's still there? What about? What about?

Speaker 4 (04:48):
What about?

Speaker 2 (04:52):
I'll tell you what we could do. My idea for
a sweep I would be I could get a chart
and I could put across the top, I could put
the numbers one to ten and down the side. I'm
gonna put the numbers one to ten, and you could
tell me how many tries you think each side would score.

(05:15):
So you could say South Africa four, New Zealand two,
and tell us who you think is gonna win. Also,
I think that might work quite well. I'll look up
the most number of tries between the All Blacks and
South Africa probably be about eight, would it, And then
we might do it that way. But that's just if
people wanted that. After eleven o'clock that's the dead lost
hour after eleven, because on a Friday after eleven they

(05:38):
are a sleep or drunk. Sometimes not everyone, and some
drunk people are our best. But you know, intoxicato. So
we'll do the SWEEPO because anyone can ring up, even
if you're at sleury. You can ring up and predict something,
can't you. That'll be after an eleven, so eight hundred
and eighty eight to eighty if you're a great believer

(05:59):
in getting up and watching sport live, and do you
think my sweeposts a good idea the number of tries
each team will score? Because the trouble is with rugby
there's too many different results, but comes too complicated work
out who's won. And it's always a bit of a
damp squid when you follow who's one, because it's always
something that's about nine points off. So yep, we'll do that. Also,

(06:22):
if you have got breaking news where you are, let
us know what's going on. Peter says, the barge is
still stuck. What's that about? Was off on the news? Wanted?

(06:43):
Peter says? The bar just?

Speaker 5 (06:46):
Oh?

Speaker 2 (06:47):
Is it still stuck here and it's refloated? Peter, is
it still suck? No, it's floated? The ego. Anyway, do
get in touch about watching Sport Live and about the
sweeper if you want to partake. If it's a good thing,
we'll run that after eleven. If not, we might do
something else, so the ego. Now, there's two things I

(07:07):
want to talk about mainly tonight, and one of them
sounds a bit airy fairy and lame, so I'm going
to prop it up with another slightly better topic. Although
I think the airy fairy lame topic is probably the
one with wheels, but it's a bit of a soft cell.

(07:28):
But the other topics are cracker. So there's two things.
So the first question I'm going to ask you I
don't normally ask a question, but it's Friday. The first

(07:49):
question is what's a band you've changed your opinion of?
And I think it's in a good not You think
they're great, but I don't think the're rubbish. I think
the other way is better. That you always thought were

(08:10):
terrible and now in hindsight you think they were really
really good. So there you go. Like probably for me
it might be something like, well this isn't actually quite right,
but something like Creed are always terrible until they did

(08:32):
that Super Bowl show after nine to eleven. That's extraordinary.
You might have got to watch that also, So the
band you always thought terrible and now you think in
hindsight they were really good, and you missed the mark
with them, so you might've been kind of late to
arrive on it, or there might be And I don't
know what those bands would be when I love Journey,

(08:56):
but that's for that one hit. And I always kind
of probably ridiculed Juney because they looked so ridiculous. But yeah, yeah,
so the song you always sort were terrible now but
grudgingly you think are really really good. That's the first topic, right,
So I don't know what you suggested. It might be
if he's feeling more like a texting a texting topic,

(09:18):
but you'll have something to say and I'll hear you out.
Just a small town girl liveing in a lowly world.
You know why I like that song just she took
the Midnight Train. Well, that gets me going. Probably one
of the greatest songs about a train going anywhere. So yeah,

(09:43):
I think I mentioned the train twice. He gets the
train too, does he? I think he gets the train,
she gets the midnight train. He takes the midnight train.
Either're on the same train. You know where the train's
going anywhere? So the band you always sort were terrible
now you reckon they're quite good. And the other topic,

(10:03):
I've had a big week relearning to do the Rubik's cube,
and I've nailed it. But I just happened to be
away and I picked someone that can do this cube.
But I thought of the kids were looking at me,
and I sort of kind of I better relearn that.
So I want to talk about the I don't want
to talk about the Rubik's cube, but I want to
talk about what has been your greatest act of perseverance,

(10:28):
the thing you've really stuck with. If someone said, what
was your greatest active perseverance, and don't text and say
listening to talk back or something, because that's that's That's
not what I'm after. But what's been your greatest active person?
You might have decided a marathon at ajat, or you
might have decided to clear ten acres a gorse, or

(10:50):
you might have decided to crawl you away to match you,
peach you. I don't know so great acts of perseverance.
And when you were wrong about a band. I tend
to to be wrong about bands, but wrong about songs.
Maybe so the band you always thought were terrible and

(11:11):
now you think, actually they're quite good. I think a
lot of people probably gave the exponent. It's a hard time.
At the beginning Soil, I realized they were the great
key we pub bend. Anyway, that's what we're about tonight.
I'll give you updates on the Rugby League Tigers up above. PARAMOUNTA.

(11:37):
He's good, that young guy. He's just scored. The young
guy for West forget his name, he's always good on
the footy show. He's eighteen. I think he was the
Australian cross country to very Fit, sort of a young rooster,
not doesn't play for the Rooster, his plays for the Tigers,
but very fit, sort of a young unit. Anyway. So

(11:59):
the bands you've changed your mind on and your greatest
feed of perseverance. And I haven't looked up perseverance, but
I presume perseverance is just what would be the definition
of perseverance. I presume it's just I don't even know
what the answer is for perseverance, just kind of giving it.

(12:22):
You're all for a long time, Will that be right?

Speaker 6 (12:24):
Am? I?

Speaker 2 (12:25):
Right? Anyway? And I'd like to do good songs about
trains persistence in doing something different despite difficulty or delay
in achieving success. Single mindedness, your your your example of
single mindedness. So there we go. That's the topic. We've got,
the mana ho, the dredge We've got. Do you like sport?

(12:48):
Do you feel scared watching sport delayed because you think
someone's going to blow their result? Do you want to
partake in the sweeps? Take You've got a better idea
to run it than having tries each team's scores. I
think that's pretty good. Rob Marcus, Welcome, good evening.

Speaker 7 (13:04):
Hey get any Marcus as a game mate. Songs that
are I listened to someone who add monkeys. I was
a music a musical ding of diploma and it was
like I wasn't really into it, and then they they
were one of those bands out of Britain that just
like then the next album came out set it was

(13:25):
more commercial, you know, more artistic clever, like.

Speaker 6 (13:32):
It got really popular. So that's sort.

Speaker 7 (13:34):
Of there was a band that was turned around on
and the other one was Bruno Mars. I wasn't really
into Bruno Mars, but then when I was at music school,
I actually was playing in the Motown band. I was
more into this sort of the old school music music format.
And then he joined Brune Mars joined up with Anderson

(13:56):
Pack and did Silk Sonic Ye that they won a
whole of their Grammys that year, that that album was
fucking amazing.

Speaker 8 (14:04):
Sorry, sorry, it.

Speaker 2 (14:05):
Was really amazing.

Speaker 9 (14:06):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (14:07):
The thing with the thing with Arctic Monkeys is that
people seem to really love them, but they're not kind
of anywhere are they? I mean, they've kind of what
they're doing these days? Are they still around.

Speaker 8 (14:18):
Since since the album?

Speaker 7 (14:19):
They had Arabella and what was that they always calling
when You're high that one day were playing on the
radio quite hard out. They had really good music videos,
but yeah, they sort of like peter out the plateaus.
Certain bands plateau or keep peaking. But Anderson Packs got
some really cool stuff out there on YouTube. There's some

(14:41):
really good videos with their live studio sessions and recommending
new music is listen to that incorporates a lot of
different jazz and funk and so the new soul music
that is different to everything out there is no wonder
that got like a triple they got the three was
the best Album, Best Single, Best New Artists, one year

(15:04):
copy that three peaks real rare worth all at events. Yeah, anyway, Yeah,
it's good.

Speaker 2 (15:13):
It's good to start start before we want to go. Rob,
I appreciate you coming through a ton of texts about that. Also,
Marcus Perseverance was an eighteen fifties Troops applay ship. Yes,
I'm a rare aware of that. Ah, Mate, Creed have
never been good. You must be having laugh if you
think they were are any they were, Mate, Creed have

(15:38):
never been good. You must be having laugh if you
think there were any time they were good. Look at
the video of the old halftime show after nine to eleven. Marcus,
I never got the Beatles, didn't trying to watch Peter
Jackson's Get Back in Quittal Musicians. It's a long time
to get it. I couldn't stand Queen back in the eighties.

(16:00):
Now I think they're brilliant. J Yeah, we want you
look at Queen. You've got a wheele is what they
sing about, and it's kind of probably slightly indulgent lyrically.
I don't think they do much, do they. Marcus really
used to like Abba, but now I love them. Really
like that song about the tunnel Waterview. I never thought

(16:22):
of singing water View as I went through that tunnel. WHOA, Well,
it's very good. They should use that in branding. Actually,
in the ads when there's stoppages and stuff. Very good
being at Marcus good evening.

Speaker 5 (16:39):
Oh okay, it's not been at Sam.

Speaker 2 (16:42):
How you go, I'll call you, I'll call you Sam.

Speaker 4 (16:44):
Eh.

Speaker 5 (16:46):
Yeah, it sounds good your name.

Speaker 2 (16:48):
That's great.

Speaker 5 (16:50):
You're talking about pans. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I'm currently persevering.
Was not nursing. I've recently gone on a bit of
a sabbatical.

Speaker 2 (17:05):
Wow. You did you say you're persevering by not nursing.

Speaker 5 (17:12):
Yeah. Yeah, I've been a nurse for eight years, and
about two months ago I just I wasn't coping anymore.

Speaker 2 (17:21):
Good on you see you hit the wall and you're
giving up and thought time to do something else, or
time to have a break.

Speaker 5 (17:26):
Yeah, exactly. It's a bit more productive than I've ever been.
Right now, I'm just doing some tiling and the garage,
and over the last couple of months have been building
wardrobes and spending more time with a wife and the
kids and the cat.

Speaker 10 (17:47):
And cat.

Speaker 2 (17:47):
You can hear that, Yeah, hear the cat, love the cat.
What's the name of the cat?

Speaker 5 (17:52):
Mozie?

Speaker 2 (17:53):
Not Polydecty, is it?

Speaker 5 (17:56):
He's he's gone a little bit of what's the big
cat called again?

Speaker 2 (18:02):
Main coon, main cain, A little bit of.

Speaker 5 (18:06):
That we've got three others. We've got movie, We've got
Clover Marcus in Chelsea.

Speaker 2 (18:15):
The record, Marcus, that's extraordinary.

Speaker 5 (18:18):
How to be honest? A little bit from you, I've
got to be honest.

Speaker 2 (18:25):
Yeah, superst tell me it's a kit named after me.
That's extraordinary.

Speaker 5 (18:31):
Yeah, that's don't really what else to say. I'm a
little bit nervous, but.

Speaker 2 (18:37):
Oh, you do extremely well.

Speaker 8 (18:38):
We're all there.

Speaker 2 (18:39):
You're titling. You've given up. How long is your nurse?

Speaker 5 (18:42):
For eight years?

Speaker 11 (18:44):
Oh?

Speaker 2 (18:45):
Where was it going to be your job for life
or was it just going to be a job for now?

Speaker 5 (18:52):
Initially job for life? I might go back. I've still
got a month before I decide. I started out in psychogeriatrics,
then mental health, then hospice and College of Care, and
then I went to a rest home and it just
that broke me. So that's when I made me and

(19:15):
my wife made the decision not to continue until I
get my feet back on the ground. And I'm just
loving it having this time and doing all the stuff
at home. And yeah, I didn't think.

Speaker 2 (19:31):
I didn't think the rest time stuff would be the
stuff that was the real tought? What was that? Do
you think the tough one, the.

Speaker 5 (19:39):
Shifts, and yeah, and also when you're doing a up
day shift to you. In my workplace, I was responsible
for seventy nine patients and six staff members, which was
just completely un you know, unsustainable. And I went on

(20:00):
a holiday and I came back and decided I'm not
going back, and I haven't gone kidding, well, I don't know. Well, yeah,
got another month.

Speaker 2 (20:13):
And so I I want to sound self absorbed when
he wants. But the cat we can hear now is Marcus,
is it?

Speaker 5 (20:20):
Marcus doesn't ironically, Marcus doesn't yell.

Speaker 2 (20:24):
Okay, Marcus is silent. That is ironic, isn't it. Yeah, Okay,
I wondered about that.

Speaker 5 (20:27):
Okay, Yeah, he's a little black cat.

Speaker 2 (20:32):
Wow.

Speaker 5 (20:32):
And yeah he's cute, very cute. But that's not why
we named him after you. I don't know why.

Speaker 2 (20:38):
No, that's what I went to it. I'm way into it. Okay.

Speaker 9 (20:42):
So, so.

Speaker 2 (20:45):
If you you could travel with nursing, that isn't it
like great for traveling. You can go anywhere because he's
such transferable skills.

Speaker 5 (20:53):
Yeah, one hundred. But I don't like traveling. She's been
too close to I think about fifty three different country.

Speaker 2 (21:03):
Wow, and she's stuck with you. You don't want to
go anywhere.

Speaker 5 (21:06):
Just after the cats, Oh they come when I had to,
I don't like it.

Speaker 2 (21:11):
I look really nice to hear from your sam. So
you've done for that was good. I enjoyed that greatly.
Nineteen to nine, Marcus. When I was six living in England,
a cat called Malcolm Uggerage. I heard his name on
the TV. Just amused me. I think he was a journalist, Marcus.
I never he liked disco of the beaches. But now
I love to love somebody and I've just got a
message to you. In Massachusetts, I did see something on

(21:39):
Facebook which was an album of the worst songs to
strip to. I think one of them was New York
Minding Disass was quite a funny actually meme actually I
thought anyway, it was quite funny worst songs to strip to.
Some of them were quite funny. Yeah, it's like a meme.

(22:00):
It's like a k Tel record. Yes. Anyway, someone said
lightning crashes is not good either. Anyway, That's not the
topic tonight. The topic is perseverance. But thank you. I

(22:21):
really appreciate your seeing coming through and actually legitimizing that
topic for me, And thanks for looking after Marcus the
cat too, giving him a home. Steve, it's Marcus. Good
evening and welcome.

Speaker 10 (22:35):
Yeah.

Speaker 12 (22:35):
Well, I'm stretching the perseverance thing Wednesday next week, nine
to eleven. They're still finding bits of aircraft on top
of skyscrapers twenty three years ago, really nine eleven, still

(22:56):
finding bits downsides of those sky scrapers and on the roods.

Speaker 2 (23:01):
Miles, tell me where you're finding this out?

Speaker 12 (23:05):
What was on the news on our recently?

Speaker 7 (23:08):
How big they find?

Speaker 2 (23:10):
How bigger the bits they find?

Speaker 12 (23:11):
It all very very minute, but embedded in the roofs
when they're keening the skyscrapers all around that area, they're
still finding the odd little bit.

Speaker 2 (23:23):
How far did the bits go?

Speaker 12 (23:25):
Oh, some of them are miles away?

Speaker 2 (23:28):
Really, Yeah, by the force of the impact or by
the explugs.

Speaker 12 (23:33):
By the force of the impact. Yeah, but it's in
the aircrafts. And yeah, it's horrendous anyway. I know they
say perseverance.

Speaker 2 (23:47):
And I yeah, I'm kind of fruscinated by that because
I can't believe that I've never heard that that was
the thing.

Speaker 12 (23:53):
That they Yeah, the keening over a period of time,
they go through and they all the exterior of each
of the skyscrapers, and they're finding embedded in the roofs
and down the sides areas where you can't normally get to.
Apparently found a landing leg and a part of a

(24:15):
wheel jammed down the side between two They had a
hell atop. Had to remove a window to get to it.

Speaker 10 (24:23):
Happened that just recently.

Speaker 2 (24:24):
How big would that but be?

Speaker 12 (24:27):
Oh, be quite big. But as I say, they had
to remove a window to get to it, to get
get it out, there's not a lot of gap between
those skyscrapers. But yeah, yeah, that's what you call perseverance.

Speaker 2 (24:46):
Yeah, how long did you know al Jeera was that story?

Speaker 4 (24:52):
Oh?

Speaker 12 (24:52):
I need about a week ago.

Speaker 2 (24:53):
Okay, that's kind of amazing.

Speaker 12 (24:56):
They gets a little bit that was embedded in a
roof on top of one of the skyscrapers.

Speaker 2 (25:04):
I just kind of thought the whole thing would kind
of the whole plane of kind of concerting and collapsed there.
And then because you didn't kind of you didn't see
bits flying off, did you in those images?

Speaker 13 (25:14):
No?

Speaker 12 (25:16):
But it is, and it's a sight that we'll never forget. No, absolutely,
it's a day we all know where we were.

Speaker 2 (25:29):
Oh, and of course it's some five days away. Yeah,
of course it's quite timely for you to come through
about that. You appreciate that Steven's real intering. Find that
very exceedingly interesting, more interesting. I thought it was going
to one interesting hour. Sam and his cat, Steven the
parts of the plane japis.

Speaker 9 (25:46):
Well.

Speaker 2 (25:46):
There is someone that suggested that Sam could become a
vet nurse because he loves his cats. Why don't you
text me that? When I was with him, I could
have said that, it's a brilliant question. What did he
become a vet nurse?

Speaker 5 (26:02):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (26:02):
Lots of choices of nursing, but hard slog and twelve
hour shifts. Crazy. Thanks for nine to eleven recalls. So
sad dB Marcus, welcome, good evening. Do you think how
the apence how they get the badge off?

Speaker 6 (26:19):
They just pulled it off of the tag they had.
I tired it just after one, and then he used
the big tag. The second tag whose name suddenly escapes
me is also steaming up with but not attention.

Speaker 2 (26:34):
Okay, okay, hanging about okay, perseverance.

Speaker 4 (26:40):
I am.

Speaker 6 (26:41):
I'm well known from my hair brained ideas, and it
is thirty on years ago, living in Johnsonville. I thought,
I know what I do. I learned how to run
up Mount cow Cow and back wow, And yeah there
was you know, no knowledge training whatever. And so I

(27:03):
started by walking towards the pop of Cow Cow and
getting some way there and going stuff this, and then
I walked a bit further, and then I got to
running a little bit, and then recovering while walking, and
then running further and walking there, and then finally I
could run from my house and basically next to Johnsonville

(27:23):
Railway station to the top of our Cowcow Baskin goodness,
took me about six months, I think.

Speaker 2 (27:31):
So I've climbed it. But I did that bushline walk.
I wasn't straight up would it be fires?

Speaker 5 (27:39):
I used the path and quite often if I felt
like I'd just do the ring route which takes it
that halfway up and rather than go to the summer,
don't come down the other the other route into the
car back at the top of whatever road it is, recorders.

Speaker 6 (28:00):
Back home.

Speaker 2 (28:03):
What's the what's the altitude dB fist five hundred meters
would have been the snow on top sometimes like that.

Speaker 6 (28:14):
Okay, what happened to hurry, So I'm in there are
I have no idea. Twelve hundred minutes sounds about right.
It wouldn't be three thousand seat, it would be twelve
hundred feet yeah.

Speaker 2 (28:27):
Five hundred four four five meters.

Speaker 10 (28:29):
There you go, oh, there you go.

Speaker 6 (28:32):
Yeah, that's how I thought.

Speaker 2 (28:34):
How long did it take you from j Vill to
get to the top? An hour?

Speaker 6 (28:39):
And once I got to running about thirty minutes minutes.

Speaker 2 (28:46):
Yeah, but I know people like U dB Is do
something like that because of a pub bit, and you
find your way, you're dedicated. Then you do it once
you prove you can do it, you never do it again.
Is that right?

Speaker 14 (28:57):
Yeah?

Speaker 6 (28:57):
I kept doing for a montal so Yeah, and then
all of a sudden, my way, I've done that on.

Speaker 2 (29:02):
What was your next? What was your next thing? You
persevered with?

Speaker 6 (29:05):
I was afraid, you know that one that I remember vividly.
I was driving a bus by day thought I haven't
learned anything for why so I'll either I learned how
learn methin or learn how to pack locks. That sounds
like a bolt, you know, two ideas, And so after
one lesson of Latin, I can now.

Speaker 2 (29:26):
Pick locks quickness.

Speaker 6 (29:30):
Because I couldn't understand word one of Latin and.

Speaker 2 (29:35):
It was hard to pick a lock. So not really
you got a skeleton key or is that a myth?

Speaker 3 (29:45):
No?

Speaker 6 (29:45):
No, no, no, I've got a full set of lock packed,
and I've got a couple of cas. So I've got
a ice can contain a full of headlocks, and even
now and then I'll get pull one out randomly and
just set the.

Speaker 2 (30:00):
Picking it and how long? Half an hour?

Speaker 6 (30:04):
I know some of them take thirty seven, but I've
got one I've never picked. So yeah, you've got both
into the spectrum. But what I first thing I had
my next door over come over and say, look, I
know you're learning this at all, sick We've got we've
got a donations box of our stairs that we want.

(30:27):
Do you want to come and have a crecident?

Speaker 2 (30:30):
No one.

Speaker 6 (30:30):
It took me about minute.

Speaker 2 (30:32):
Brilliant Lois Lizard's Marcus welcome, good evening, hollers.

Speaker 15 (30:39):
This has nothing to do with perseverance. But I dug
my memory about my youngest child as a boy, and
I used to work for New Zealand's hosts, so he
was obsessed with from padlocks and keys. Who would have
been four, so I thought Tilly mother thought she was
doing him a favor because they thought all the teas

(31:02):
out from the posting boxers. So I thought he'd loved
these keys, and I went.

Speaker 16 (31:08):
Home with him.

Speaker 15 (31:09):
And I can't forget the look on his face when
I gave him the keys, because I hadn't given any
locks to go with it, and the look on the
face it was like, what's the matter with you? I've
never forgotten to this day.

Speaker 2 (31:26):
So what did he do with them? Just nothing because
there's no locks?

Speaker 10 (31:29):
Right if I looked at me.

Speaker 15 (31:31):
As I was an absolute plunker, Yeah, I mean went
looking back on it now the bally. I didn't give
them more padlocks to go with it, but it was
absolutely with padlocks.

Speaker 2 (31:43):
Has he still got that obsession?

Speaker 15 (31:48):
He's in England? It's a funny things about what he liked.

Speaker 17 (31:55):
He loved them.

Speaker 15 (31:57):
Everything He had to be hooked onto something. It was caravan.
It had to be hooked on on. Everything had to
hook on. Everything had to make sense. It didn't give
him a card because he didn't want it unless have
had an objects. The doors had to open, everything had
to be done just like that. He never changed all
his life.

Speaker 2 (32:17):
So what do you mean if they get to be
hooked on.

Speaker 15 (32:21):
When you couldn't just give them cards to play with
like most kids. He'd only have cars that had little
trailers on the back that hooked on to the car
on front, or training that's cooked on with little toe bars.
Everything had, helicopters had to have people with a bit
of string flying out. It's in the I game, So

(32:44):
I don't know if that's.

Speaker 2 (32:46):
The world's least surprising world's least surprising users in the
IT game.

Speaker 15 (32:51):
He's website. He's not a website developed now because he's
been working.

Speaker 2 (32:55):
For who we would we would understand what he does
these days, the way the internet's going to could be
doing anything. You have no idea, would we?

Speaker 15 (33:04):
No, I don't do anything. He's worked for the whole
office and.

Speaker 2 (33:09):
He's probably that's probably he's probably tapping into our phone calls,
you know those people alike.

Speaker 15 (33:15):
I think he's probably doing that, but I don't know
whether that was part of his mighty He was musical
as well, so well that can be a hindrance sometimes
been too musical.

Speaker 1 (33:24):
Can it?

Speaker 9 (33:26):
Well?

Speaker 15 (33:26):
I don't know. He want the whole house up and
I found them wiring his I found them wiring his
beautiful violin and his sign has given him.

Speaker 18 (33:37):
I was wiring about because.

Speaker 15 (33:38):
I want to make it like, let's miss it. Whatever
name s m A or something.

Speaker 2 (33:44):
She was good Dave and s m A with her
fast football playing.

Speaker 5 (33:47):
Wasn't she.

Speaker 2 (33:50):
Happened to her?

Speaker 17 (33:52):
Oh, she's probably burned out because the noography.

Speaker 2 (33:55):
I didn't it. Didn't one of them become a famous?
Didn't she go into the Olympics and become a skier?
She went to the Olympics, she became.

Speaker 19 (34:05):
She became with.

Speaker 2 (34:06):
Alpine scare, which I thought was a great pivot to
go from being a speed fiddler to Olympic scare.

Speaker 15 (34:15):
Yeah, but she had it dinner, you see, because she's bilateral,
you know, fop over from one side to the brain
and bilateral, you know, left and right and all. Actually
probably got a lot of it from music.

Speaker 2 (34:27):
I'm sure she would have. Yeah.

Speaker 15 (34:30):
Anyway, I think they do music after they're born or
before they're born. Their brain is totally different. They swapped
from one side to the legs, and one side meant
the analytical, but after the while, for them, macis becomes automatic.

Speaker 2 (34:47):
I don't doubt that Lizzard's loving to talk thirteen past nine.
What's happening people? Oh, get in touch. My name's Marcus.
Oh eight hundred and eighty Dad, your greatest active perseverance?

Speaker 1 (35:02):
What was it?

Speaker 2 (35:04):
And Benes you were wrong about? What about Ebba? Would
be wrong about Ebba singing about the tunnel Waterview? Was
there another parody about that? The trouble with Waterview the tunnel.
It's kind of a bit of a dull tunnel because
it doesn't really go wrong, does it. It's not like

(35:25):
a tunnel that's always broken, because it was a tunnel
that was always broken. Then you could do songs like
I don't think I do a parody song about Waterview
the tunnel, Mymi at Waterloo, my my at Waterview, my

(35:49):
holden did surrender? Oh yeah, anyway, it's labored. It's not good.
I'm sorry, but something might come to that. Yes, everyone's
trying the rics to a song about Warterview the tunnel.
I'd like that, Oh, eight hundred and eighty e Teddy
in nine two nine tow to Text, My name is Marcus,

(36:11):
Welcome twenty six fourteen, Paramotter over Tigers, No surprises there.
What's your greatest feet of perseverance? People Marcus. When I
was twelve, I contracted manager cockle meningitis. At the time,
eighty one, there were there were no antibiotics to fight

(36:34):
the disease. Millions of people around the world died for
this particular strain of meningitis.

Speaker 12 (36:37):
That year.

Speaker 2 (36:38):
I was an ICU for over a month, a couple
of weeks on a ventator, but I persevered and somehow
pulled through. The only reason the doctor saysurvived was because
on peak physical condition for my age. Then six years
later I got dengy fever during military service in Asia.

(36:59):
Took me about a year before I fully recover by persevering,
fought through that as well. Wouldn't wish either on anyone
behind sight maybe a much stronger person spiritually, you're supposed
to say you wouldn't wish it on your worst enemy,
dingy fever. So perseverance in the band you were wrong about.

(37:19):
And do you think the sweep steak will work? If
we just do how many tries each side scores and
I'll do a chart so they can only do it once.
I'll probably go like for all but South Africa to win,
because I'll kick more of the doll of a droppy

(37:41):
because they're our kick is too slow. It's terrifying to watch.
Get in touch. My name is Marcus. Welcome perseverance and
picking locks. I like the way I like the way

(38:04):
dB is mind works. I'm going to learn Latin or
how to pick locks. Terrible language. Latin we learned out
of school. Crazy of no interest to anyone. No one
this maybe you're a botanist. Ha ha ha, Mike Marcus.

(38:30):
My biggest struggle with perseverance was the day you started
your show. I have persevered since and yep, you're okay.
Regards to thank you, Mike. Do my best, try and
keep it interesting. Don't always succeed, but you can't stop trying.

(38:51):
By the way, it's color blind Awareness Day. I'm going
imagure have any listeners that were color blind?

Speaker 1 (39:00):
Do we?

Speaker 2 (39:01):
I think it's very rare. Is it anyway?

Speaker 3 (39:07):
Don't know.

Speaker 2 (39:08):
How do you pople to get color blindness? Is it
mainly men only men? Is it blue green? Don't know.
I'm not very aware of color blindness. This day, in
nineteen ninety seven, Princess Diana's funeral was held watched by

(39:29):
a third of the people on earth. What happened? Oh,
that's right, Elton saying, didn't he goodbye English?

Speaker 20 (39:40):
Rose?

Speaker 2 (39:43):
And the brother spoke Diana was the most hunted. What
was the speech? Ah, Diana, I probably find a copy
of it.

Speaker 5 (40:03):
If you like.

Speaker 2 (40:07):
William and Harry. We all cared desperately for you today.
How great the suffering? Do you remember that they were
turned out to be a love red and they had
about six different wives. Anyway, it's quite a good speech

(40:28):
actually reading it online? Where's it bit? They says she
was hunted? Good evening, Kerrio, it's Marcus.

Speaker 18 (40:40):
Welcome, Thank you Marcus.

Speaker 17 (40:42):
How are you good?

Speaker 2 (40:43):
Ten out of ten?

Speaker 19 (40:45):
God, that's lovely.

Speaker 6 (40:47):
Look.

Speaker 19 (40:47):
I was just calling because I'm driving up to Auckland,
and I was listening to you talking about color blindness,
and I was going to say, both my brothers are
color blind. And the interesting thing about it is it's
carried on the mother's jean. So even though females don't,
you know, don't commonly have or exhibit color blindness, they

(41:12):
they are the carriers.

Speaker 2 (41:15):
So that there so their children won't get it because
they're male obviously.

Speaker 19 (41:22):
Yeah, well yeah, I if they marry a woman who who.

Speaker 2 (41:25):
Is color blind, yeah, who's car how would how would you,
how would you know.

Speaker 19 (41:31):
Well, what happened is my older brother, Tense the Soul,
used to wear these hey artistic, but he's wear these
quite interesting combinations. And sometimes we'd get the giggles. He'd say,
you know, he'd come in in a pair of sort
of what he thought chocolate corduroy pants, but the burger

(41:53):
wo'd say, oh, you're in burgundy pants, and he'd say, no, no,
they're chocolate. And so my my dad was a doctor
and he had a colorblind book and they did a
test on him. And you know, with the color blind book,
it's got all the different spots of color. And if
you're color blind, and it's different and you said red, green,
or depending on your color blindness, you look and see

(42:14):
the well you're asked to say what figures you see
inside the colors, and people who are colorblind see like
they might say fifty seven, but everyone else would see
sixty three. You know, it's so so different, but it's
very it's fascinating, and both the boys have it, and
you know, like I mean, they get very sensitive. But

(42:37):
of course what it means is that they can't apply
for roles in police or pilots or anywhere where you
actually need to be able to identify colors accurately. So
it's a bit of a disability I suppose.

Speaker 2 (42:52):
Well, that's exactly right, But I'm just trying to work
out he was quite old to have been spotted.

Speaker 19 (42:58):
It was he well, no, just in his teams actually,
because you know, just in his teens. He must have
been about teen at fourteen. And then my dad said, oh,
you know, this is bit interesting what you're what he's wearing,
and what he's saying he's wearing, and what if what
colors he's identifying. And maybe if we didn't have a

(43:20):
medical you know, family, you know, it might have been missed.
But because it probably kept I don't know, I'm younger
than my brother, but because it kept happening repetitively, I
think my dad just thought, well, whatever, we look and
brought home this book and got a thought to look
at it and identified that both the boys were colorblind,
none of the girls were. And and then later you know,

(43:43):
did research and you know, a lots have just covered up,
you know, carried it on your mother's side, nothing to
do with the side of family. And sure, as you know,
I've found my own bit of research and it's true.

Speaker 2 (43:55):
Okay, I appreciate it, Kerry, thanks for coming through. Rob Marcus, welcome.

Speaker 17 (44:00):
Oh Gillowy Michael here, you're going right?

Speaker 2 (44:02):
Yeah, good Rob.

Speaker 20 (44:04):
Person.

Speaker 17 (44:05):
What did you want to her to hear about lock picking?

Speaker 21 (44:07):
Yeah?

Speaker 17 (44:09):
Yeah, well I've got a very well mistake youth or
well informed you. So I don't know how you want
to call it. And I'm I'm forty seven years old
today and I still use that school there now and
then only for good.

Speaker 2 (44:22):
Now, Rob can just hang on there. See that's kind
of have headlines. I want to talk a little bit
more about your lock picking. Okay, yeah, no, don't go away, Okay,
just stay there. Okay, we're going to talk lock picking
because I'm into that. So Rob, did you did you
teach yourself for how to pick locks?

Speaker 9 (44:39):
No?

Speaker 2 (44:39):
Only I am.

Speaker 17 (44:41):
He had a fellow at school teach me how to
pick lot see made this skeleton key hexall bait and
showed me how to do it. And then or seven
we're picking lockers at school.

Speaker 2 (44:57):
And then did you advance? Did you start with lockers
and then advance from there?

Speaker 17 (45:02):
No, I've never got my very forward from the just
the normal three tumbler padlock and all tumbler you could
hit your crack.

Speaker 2 (45:13):
So could you do a three tumbler with a heck's
All blade. How would you get the different rise bits
with it?

Speaker 17 (45:21):
So we used to trying the hecks All blade down
and we'd put a bump in the middle of it. Yeah,
so you could almost wiggle that hexs All blade up
and down and hold slight pressure on the on the
barrel to try and turn it. And once you've got
them all lined up, it would it would turn and
it was it's got a feet.

Speaker 2 (45:39):
So all the locks would go with the same hexsaw blade, right.
I suppose the locks on score lockers are all quite similar,
are they? The keys?

Speaker 22 (45:47):
Uh?

Speaker 3 (45:48):
Yeah, some of the quites wrong that they used to be.

Speaker 17 (45:50):
That's actually one padlock, this brand called master lock back
in the day. But you get actually just like a
blade right up the middle and you could pull the
little latch back and undo the padlock. It was one
of the easiest pedlocks to crack, even though they had
about three or four tumblers. You could just put your
picture right up the top and point it and grab

(46:12):
the little or atch and pull it across you.

Speaker 2 (46:17):
If you ever tried, if you ever tried to sort
of break into people with their lock out of their
key keys locked out of their house and stuff.

Speaker 17 (46:24):
Uh, actually you have done that before. I've just read
my keys because you know how locks where they've got
all the tumblers in you. So you've put the key
in and then you give the whole pressure and then
you kind of wiggle it, yeah, and hold pressure and
backwards and forwards. And I've unlocked the other people's houses
with my own housekes.

Speaker 2 (46:43):
What are you like with combination locks, because they're quite
easy to pick out, not the ones with the dial,
but the ones were just the four numbers. I mean,
they give it, but don't they when you can rattle
those three Yeah?

Speaker 17 (46:54):
Yeah, I guess that's probably the first lock. So we
used to call them bubble gum locks because when you
wrap up your bike and lock it up, as good
as grappling your feet of bubble gum round the round
the fence post and in round your tie.

Speaker 2 (47:07):
Very good rop like that bubble grat, bubble gum pete Marcus, welcome,
good evening.

Speaker 23 (47:12):
They're going there, Marcus. Yeah, I'm going color I'm color
blind as well. No, still, yeah, I have never never
lose it. Once you've got it, you've got it. You
can't do much about it. But put a long story short,
was I sort of left, I got on my hands,
me downs close to my brother in those days, you know,
so you pretty much got what you got to weed

(47:33):
and really complain, you know. So that was all right,
entirely of pain. When I was about twenty one, went
blacking all that sort of stuff. And then are you
I saw or something picked you up? Picked me on.
I said, I realize what toweor you're wearing. And I said,
oh me, it looks like red or wherever it was.
But you find most people are color blind like that
previous lady said, it's quite often and pink, purple and

(47:57):
greens and between those colors.

Speaker 2 (48:00):
How old were you you? How old were you when
they sprung it on you?

Speaker 23 (48:05):
Well, I'll tell what happened. Was I mean for this
job Olex Cables here New Plymouth and the stranding name
doing it. They make cables and stuff. I applied for
this job and I went and there for an interview
and all going well, and they said, ah, I sort
of picked it up and he said are you color blind?

(48:26):
And I said, ah, I don't really know, but I
sort of lied a little bit, and then he liked that.
Lady said next to me, gives me this color blind book.
I saw these dots in it, and he's going for
these pages and he said, what are you seeing there? Oh, looking,
I don't really see much. I couldn't see that. I

(48:47):
think there might have been not a letter. The figures
twelvel what they were. And he said, ah, he said, ah,
you're actually quite badly color blind. He's all he said
to me. He said, don't go right wiring any time bombs,
he said, because your first one might be your last one.

Speaker 5 (49:01):
Well, okay, so I took I took.

Speaker 23 (49:04):
That a board, then couple a job. But it wasn't
the color coding of wires. They just just got a
job in the stranding machine side of them. That in
that factory, So it was all right. But yeah, but
it's quite common. A lot of males do have it.
And what I was annoyed one day is, you know
the ramset guns that builders use for firing nails into

(49:24):
timber or concrete or whatever. You get different strengths of
those boots you put in those ramseet guns. Yeah, now
the same colors that the colorblind colors of that stupid
because there's a lot of males that are colorblind. It's
quite common at them, more than you realize. And I
rung up ram set one day and I said to them,
you ever thought about going to someone about the because

(49:48):
all the bullets that I said before are those colors
are the colorblind. It's quite dangerous. And he said, oh,
it's too much work to do all that, to readministrate
all that about the But there's plenty of colors you
can use. About four or five though there's that three
or four different strengths of those ramseet bullets, one for wood,
one for concrete. You get some for metal, so you

(50:08):
get different sizes, which makes sense. The woods light, so
you need to light a bullet. The fires through them.
And one picked the stronger one for going through metal.
And their excuse was, oh, it'll cost how much administration
to change all that they're going about health and safety.
They still haven't changed those colors. Still.

Speaker 2 (50:25):
The day shippers, mind, you you got to pick. You're
got to pick your fights on life though day. Yeah,
but then most of us are fly with the different colors.

Speaker 23 (50:37):
Yeah, But I say said before marks a pill. A
lot of males are colorblind. And what happens is I
think some builders they probably all have boxes. They probably
some bosses probably know that that was mean. Pete's colorblind.
I get a bit it goes on. They probably I
shouldn't say it, will I'm surmising here they might have

(50:59):
boxes different. These are the bullets you use for these
in this or concrete or wood or whatever. But you've
only got to pick up one of those. Now, those
ram set the fire and those machines, and it might
be the wrong color. You might even pick it up.
You could be a guy on the side. You could
you could shoot the pieces. It might go to the
piece of tim because a stronger strength rams, and it
could kill some guy out the side of the on

(51:20):
the side of the building.

Speaker 2 (51:21):
What do you struggle with? What do you struggle with?

Speaker 23 (51:28):
What colors?

Speaker 2 (51:29):
Yeah, not in general life, but with your colors.

Speaker 23 (51:32):
Oh, it's quite funny. I've got a phone you haven't
a while. Get one of those I dropped bear. Get
one of those protection covers. I went to a body
streak through the shop and got a cover, and to
me it looked like sort of a gray color. And
then I got mates, it are light your phone color?

Speaker 9 (51:50):
What do you mean?

Speaker 23 (51:51):
He said, Oh, it's the inside pink, don't. I just
lived the mark, but I don't worry about it.

Speaker 20 (52:02):
I just life.

Speaker 2 (52:02):
Hey, oh Pinky, got on your pint. Nice to hear
from you, Jay, all about no shors, your color blind people,
oh wow, gotness out and about living their best life
eight hundred eighty. Thanks for hanging on there, and welcome.
It's Marcus. Good evening.

Speaker 9 (52:18):
Hello.

Speaker 24 (52:19):
I thought I'd just give you in because this blunt
blindness of colors. Many years ago, my late husband, when
he was sort of youngish, he was very careful driver,
and we were pulling out of that we'd gone to
a show, you know, a show, an animal type show,

(52:42):
and he was driving and there were sort of trees
the other side and he went to pull out. He
was a careful driver, but he went to pull out
and I didn't known as a kuna. He said, don't
be ridiculous. I said, shop And he stopped and there
was a red car and he hadn't seen it at all,
and he hadn't known that he had color blindness. And
then when our youngest son grew up, I said, went

(53:08):
into his bedroom he said, oh, look at the blossoms
outside your window. And he said, what blossoms? And I said, well,
look at them, they're all red. And he he suffered.
He suffered from the whole that's true.

Speaker 2 (53:21):
But surely your husband could have seen the car. Is
not blind. He's just how could it come.

Speaker 25 (53:25):
He couldn't see it because it was red.

Speaker 24 (53:29):
And it was in the shade on the other side
of the road, there were some trees hanging over. It
wasn't like in clear light, and I could see it clearly,
but he couldn't see it a tall But we didn't
have any more interruptions, or I would have said, you've
got to get something done about it. And it was
more or less the same thing with my other son,
who's had some things done to his eyes. I'm not

(53:52):
sure what.

Speaker 21 (53:54):
Hospital so with your husband.

Speaker 2 (53:56):
Or the red carl or Green.

Speaker 24 (53:59):
I didn't ask him. It was such a shock at
the he said, I didn't see it. He just didn't
see it.

Speaker 4 (54:05):
You know.

Speaker 24 (54:06):
I think he was a careful driver. Yeah, I think
that's more common than we know.

Speaker 16 (54:12):
Really well.

Speaker 2 (54:13):
I think you're tested at school for it. Yeah, I'm not.
I don't think I suffer from calor blindness. But well,
now I was going to say I reckon if I
did like, But you know you can't take things like that,
can you, Because it's it's awareness. It's the awareness of
color blindness. Get in touch by name is Marcus welcome?
Eight hundred and eighty eighteen eighty the awareness of the

(54:34):
old color blindness, the blindness of the colors. Wasn't quite
sure what Pete was going on about, because sometimes with Pete, Yeah,
Mark's little one rinker. A little known wrinkle in the
Isahara color blindness test is that some of the plates
are designed to be seen by someone who is color blind.
This is to weed out malingers. Malingerers. Wow, so that's

(55:05):
so you don't pretend you caliblind? I guess, Marcus. I
was told I was colorblind at thirteen, and they told
me I'd never drive a truck. I'm now a truck
driver for a truck and company, been driving for twenty
five years. Ramset guns are now designed at low velosty.

(55:27):
The old J fifty though, that could shoot through steel
and keep going. Brother on driver's test, told to park
in front of red carry, drove straight past it, thought
it was green. Very difficult cannot pick out matching ties
insured it's lots of funnies to who I don't have
a tie, but no America's cut racing tonight racing this time?

(55:50):
Could someone tell me what the woman says? Dan, can
you tell me what the woman says? It's what does
the woman say during the during the racing she says something,
and she says, note to skippers what I need to
know the actual I meant to write it down. No,

(56:11):
it's when they shorten the course. If you don't gon
to tell me with the actual words to what the
woman says when she shortens the course, I find it
extraordinary the way she says it their voice. If you'l
conld tell me what the exact word she says that,
I'll try and do. The voice happens every match when
the light winds and they shorten the course. And I

(56:32):
meant to write it down because it's just kind of
such an iconic phrase. It's as iconic as they're off
the foils. It's a new word every match it happened to.
Everyone can remember the words to that. It text it through.
I can't remember it just currently, But if you've got
the information about that, i'd love to hear about that. Yeah, oh,

(56:57):
eight hundred and eighty Tady nine two nine two texts
marks till twelve. I can't fully remember. It says, but
and they must the boys. The boys must be motorized.
They must move, which is pretty extraordinarant. She always says
that they get to touch. You want to say something

(57:20):
about that, or particularly if you can text me what
the words are Marcus BJ Marshall PJ. Marshall's West Tiger's
bet the Warriors in a preseason game and using in
the season. Do you think Webster will stay on? Yes,
Webster will stay on, Marcus. Or the boys are electronic
and can be moved remotely. The boys said a signals
said like every nine seconds. They don't move off course, Marcus.

(57:44):
One of my tractors was signed written Duchess of York.
It was, of course a little gray fergie. Ah, this
is the race committee. We are changing the course. That's
exactly what she says. This this su is the race committee.
Have we got that?

Speaker 19 (57:58):
Damn?

Speaker 2 (58:00):
Do you can play that for me? I'd love that.

Speaker 14 (58:12):
This is the race committee. We are moving the windward gate,
shortening the course to one point miles.

Speaker 2 (58:17):
It was slightly quick. There is that speed up? Can
you just put that because it's free to stink there.
I don't know who she is, but it's she always
comes through a free, low energy voice. Play it again.
That's right, sounds good, good at this the end of
the mind. People love this stuff. We're studying this at
the universities and years to come.

Speaker 14 (58:40):
This is the race Committee. We're moving the windward gate,
shortening the course to one point two nautical miles.

Speaker 2 (58:50):
Put it on a button. But it happens every Yes
Summers is a Hoy Marcus and an Atlantic American excess
and an Atlantic American accent. This is the race Committee.
We are extending the course every match, every match. This
is the race Committee. Who is she?

Speaker 14 (59:11):
We are?

Speaker 2 (59:13):
Who is she? The race Committee? This is the race comvintee,
say woman every time? This is one more time.

Speaker 14 (59:27):
This is the race Committee. We're moving the windward deep,
shortening the course to one point two nautical miles.

Speaker 2 (59:33):
You see she's not American. I mean, she's not from Barcelona.
It's hat going to be some sort of some sort
of exciting Spanish voice. This is the race committee. Anyway,
how are you going? People? What's my name's Marcus good evening,
Welcome here on midnight. I've got a sweep stake worked
out between eleven and twelve. It's going to have background

(59:55):
New Age music to make it sound more interesting and
what we are doing. Hang on.

Speaker 9 (01:00:06):
On.

Speaker 2 (01:00:06):
Something's happening in the rugby league right South versus the Roosters,
and one of the players from the South has just scored.
But I think he's that unit that's played rugby union.

Speaker 9 (01:00:24):
Is he?

Speaker 2 (01:00:26):
Is he that new recruit that came across they're pretty
excited about. I think he might be that guy that's
come from the other code. Have we got that one right?
Where am I speaking rubbish? I think he's that guy
that's come anyway, we'll find out. Someone says the voice
is computer is Ai. Yeah, Mark, this is the guy

(01:00:49):
got try on debut. I'm just trying to look at this.
So this guy who's just scored the try and they
were so excited about it as Mark Nara Kuana Tawasi.
So he looks pumped. Az. So I'm going to tell
you the story about this. It's his first game. He's

(01:01:09):
a I think he's from Australia's Fijian and Italian. He
played for the Wallabies. I think where the Warratars and
the Wallabies a great rugby player for them and his
debut debute for the Roosters had his first match now
and scored on debut. Kicked yeah, he looks. It looks pumped.
Good on you mate, could have probably gone well actually

(01:01:33):
under the new coach in the in the fifteen A
side match, but there was it was a kick from
old Red Marny or some I forget the guy's name,
and just underneath it catch bomb. Brilliant anyway, Apparently the
motorized boys are New Zealand inventions. So it's all very exciting.

(01:01:59):
But welcome head or twelve o'clock we are talking Bens.
You were wrong about your example of your own feats
of perseverance. Anything's fine, and also talking about color blindness.
And I think there's something else that's happening too. I

(01:02:21):
can't work out what it is, but get in touch
here till twelve o'clock tonight. Still good. People can't wait
to hear from Lois on Monday, talk about the rugby.
Good evening, Henriette's Marcus, welcome.

Speaker 5 (01:02:42):
Hey, Mike, here are you good things?

Speaker 18 (01:02:43):
Henry Hey, perseverance so a couple of years ago off
back bell I think it was two nine, Me and
two other guys went down to Wellington to do the
Aurora a marathon, which is they runner up around the
Whitman's Valley there.

Speaker 9 (01:03:02):
You know.

Speaker 2 (01:03:05):
Where's is it? That's north of where into obviously is it?

Speaker 17 (01:03:07):
Yeah?

Speaker 25 (01:03:08):
I think it's in one of the half time sure
where it was lod Yeah, yep, sure there anyway, But
it's always held on well it used to be Queen's
Birthday weekend, you know, so it's always wet and cold
and Wellington and so we done.

Speaker 21 (01:03:23):
We know, we've done the.

Speaker 18 (01:03:24):
Marathon, finished it and had supper that night and we're
going on the way. They coming to Wongonui about seven
o'clock and my mate's car the windscreen wife has stopped
and it was raining. So from all the way from
there Wenington to back to Wamany he had a dry
point of like well the head that the window looking
to see and the rain was coming. It was cold

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and it was worse than doing the bloody marathon, it was.

Speaker 2 (01:03:52):
That's that's a hell of a twenty four hours. Is
the marathon an actual marathon? Up and down? Is it
it's a steep marathon, is that.

Speaker 18 (01:03:57):
Right, Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, you finish well. You start,
you run up towards Whitman's Valley and you run down
this bloody big hill. You finished this primary school. And
it's a handicap marathons, so you all start at different times,
so you know, you might run the whole forty two
k and you might not see anybody because of your
you know what your time, what you say.

Speaker 23 (01:04:18):
You you will run.

Speaker 2 (01:04:21):
You've never heard of a handicap marathon.

Speaker 18 (01:04:24):
Okay, you know it's I know whether you know this
in the running wheel, but there's a guy down there
called med Mike. He runs with his sheep sheepskin jacket
on and like togs and he's done like a thousand marathons,
eight hundred. He's just you know, but yeah, it's down

(01:04:44):
there in Aurora. And yeah, but the right home was
that was worse than the you know, run before you
do game.

Speaker 2 (01:04:51):
So if the if the if the just back on,
this would the handicap marathon. If the handicap has got
it right, everyone should finish at the same time.

Speaker 18 (01:04:59):
Is that right, Yeah, yeah, that's yeah, that's how it
should work. But it's not always well, you know, sometimes
you might run a little bit fas from what you said.
You you know, what you put down. It depends on
the day sometimes you know, it can't eaven like that
what time?

Speaker 2 (01:05:15):
But what time did you do it?

Speaker 19 (01:05:16):
Then?

Speaker 4 (01:05:17):
Oh?

Speaker 13 (01:05:18):
Oh that day was?

Speaker 18 (01:05:19):
What was three years?

Speaker 12 (01:05:21):
All?

Speaker 16 (01:05:21):
Do you think?

Speaker 2 (01:05:23):
Well that sounds pretty good because it looks pretty steep.
I mean, that's it would be a lot longer than
an ordinary marathon, wouldn't it.

Speaker 18 (01:05:30):
Well, it seems to me because the year you're running
up to all a lot and then you know you'ren'
you're running downhill and it's always you know, Queen's Berth.
So it's always a cold, wet, miserable day.

Speaker 2 (01:05:40):
And it sounds like the guy should have stopped and
got the car fixed. Sounds a bit dangerous, you know,
it was it was like it was but it was
like you know, the rain was coming through the window.

Speaker 18 (01:05:50):
Was just dark and weird, and no, that was I
was glad to get home that day, or tell you
can imagine.

Speaker 2 (01:05:55):
Nice to hear from you, Henry Primrose, Marcus, welcome, Hello,
how we there?

Speaker 26 (01:06:01):
It's good Marcus. I want to know about this asteroid
that's supposed to be coming close to Earth on the
fifteenth of September. Well, they believe it's going to be
close to Earth, but they actually saying that there could
be some slight adjustment and then we could be in trouble.
And they're saying it's going to pass two point six
the distance of the Moon. Two point six times that's

(01:06:24):
how close it's going to get on its current trajectory.
And it's the size of a sixty foot building or
too rugby field, traveling at twenty five thousand miles per hour.
So if that hit the earth water, what would the

(01:06:45):
impact be? If it hit on the land, what would
the impact be? And how come the ones talking about it?

Speaker 2 (01:06:54):
We've got enough to worry about.

Speaker 26 (01:06:56):
No, we don't have anything to worry about, really, really
we don't.

Speaker 2 (01:07:00):
It's a good point. I've never thought about. Hang on,
I've never thought because it's not as big as the
one that wiped out the dinos it Well, how do
you know that, because they've got a crater that can
measure how big it is.

Speaker 26 (01:07:14):
Yeah, but what about tsunami? Ah, and how there's a
lot of flat areas in New Zealand for example, how do.

Speaker 2 (01:07:26):
You mean flat area?

Speaker 4 (01:07:27):
Oh?

Speaker 2 (01:07:28):
If it went to sea sea level.

Speaker 26 (01:07:30):
Yeah, we've got a lot of sea level cities in
New Zealand, Auckland, christ Church, Wellington is quite flat, so
the important areas.

Speaker 2 (01:07:39):
The asteroid that killed the dinosaurs was ten kilometers across.

Speaker 5 (01:07:45):
Mm.

Speaker 22 (01:07:48):
That's big.

Speaker 2 (01:07:50):
I don't know what happened. I wouldn't think, would think
when big asteroids hit the ocean it's not a big deal.
I've never heard it talk about it's a big deal.
So I imagine if it does hit the Earth, there's
a seventy chance it's going to hit the water anyway.
M I think if it gets too close, they can

(01:08:13):
fire a rocket at it, can't they.

Speaker 26 (01:08:16):
Well, apparently according to the movies they can.

Speaker 2 (01:08:20):
No, they remember they have knocked something off, it's all.
But they've done that recently.

Speaker 17 (01:08:25):
No, I didn't know, but I you know, I.

Speaker 26 (01:08:26):
Heard something really weird years ago that up and up
near Russia. But it's not Russia. It's one of those
smaller countries. There is a gun that comes out automatically.
The whole area is.

Speaker 10 (01:08:42):
A no go zone. It's not.

Speaker 26 (01:08:46):
From current technology and the animals they don't go near
the area, and there's weird readings when they when the
scientists go near that area, the stem comes out, apparently
and shoots asteroid automatically if they get too close to

(01:09:08):
anybody heard about that?

Speaker 2 (01:09:11):
What magazine do you have been reading?

Speaker 9 (01:09:13):
No?

Speaker 26 (01:09:13):
No, no, it was not was on the internet a
long time ago. Okay, I s worried about ten years
ago on the internet. It was quite interesting.

Speaker 2 (01:09:22):
I'm going to look into that, Primrose. But thanks for
alluding me to that asteroid. Fifteenth of September, good evening,
Mark's I'm listening again tonight and find it quite first
day that we're saying there's nothing to worry about. Have
we forgotten about the condensation the paper bags?

Speaker 5 (01:09:37):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (01:09:37):
I got to admit that was a difficult call for
me to handle because that guy just went on and
on and on. But I'd said, if you've got any concerns.
He did ring up and say how concerned he was
about the about the supermarket Jiwopoli and paying thirty five
cents for a paper bag and the condensation of the
ice cream. You're quite right, let's hear from you, Marcus.

(01:10:07):
Could Dan please make the sound clip of the yachting
available for download on the Facebook page. Dan, this is
the Race Committee.

Speaker 14 (01:10:13):
If we're moving the windward geek, shortening the course to
one point two nautical miles.

Speaker 2 (01:10:19):
Dan put it on the Facebook page. This is the
what if it is AI? This is the race committee.
It's always so unlikely because you're just having a race.
Then suddenly they're moving the boys, and they're moving the
boys to make it shorter, because I think the race
is supposed to be over in twenty minutes for the sponsors. Yeah,

(01:10:42):
that's right. I'd actually wish the way races are a
bit longer. He's going good. This rugby union guy that's
gone across to the roosters, Dom Young's on the island.
I know why that guy's playing, but gee, he's going
to be good.

Speaker 4 (01:11:01):
Ah.

Speaker 2 (01:11:03):
This is the race committee. Perseverance picking locks. Color blindness.
Color blindness is quite at because people are color blind.
They love to tell you about how color blind they are,
because it's kind of a do you get a can
you get a parking? You can't park special? Can you?

(01:11:30):
Because would you call it a disability? You wouldn't, would you?
Because you can still see? Yes, world's your world's different?
What would you call it? Marcus? Can you help set
an argument? Nineteen eighty eight contato of high grade tie

(01:11:51):
weed was smuggling to New Zealand. Yes, what's the question.
I don't know the question on that one, Marcus. It's
not AI. It's computer scripted, like what you hear when
dialing winds or net nor more platform announcements on Wellington
railway station. Never know what that means.

Speaker 11 (01:12:18):
Hello, Matthew, Oh hi, ma, guess first I'm talking to you.

Speaker 5 (01:12:23):
How's it going good?

Speaker 2 (01:12:24):
Thank you, Methew?

Speaker 8 (01:12:25):
Yeah?

Speaker 11 (01:12:27):
Yes, so color blindness or impeded vision? Are you speaking
just with females or with males as well?

Speaker 2 (01:12:36):
Oh, I'm not fast when it comes to color vision.

Speaker 25 (01:12:39):
Yeah.

Speaker 11 (01:12:40):
Yeah, Well, I took a medication once that induced the
color blindness for me temporarily. When I was on the medication,
it was quite scary. So I had severely impacted vision
and I looked into it. I was prescribed a cancer
drug to moxyphene, which is kind of like an estrogen blocker.

(01:13:03):
It's meant to block the breast tissue glands for breast cancer,
but it also impacts other estrogen receptors in the body
and the eyes, and your oil glands and your eyes
are very it's very important to have estrogen connecting to
your eyes. Surprisingly, so to take this medication is severely

(01:13:31):
impacting your eyesight and induced basically a very impeded vision
for me, and like a color blindness on this drug.
And I didn't know it would do that, so it
was very scary and it took some time to clear
out of my system. So I just thought i'd mentioned
because the breast cancer the drug.

Speaker 2 (01:13:48):
Did you know straight away you'd gone color blind?

Speaker 9 (01:13:53):
Oh?

Speaker 11 (01:13:54):
I was driving and I started to I was just
showing my eyes and opening them all the time and going,
oh my gosh, like I can barely see. My skin
was very dry. I felt aw because I had low
estrogen symptoms from this medication. I needed it temporarily for

(01:14:15):
another reason. But the sum up I sort of linked
the dots of like you know, a lot of women
might experience this going through menopause or low estrogen, right
because they have low estrogen. And the factor is that
your eyes need estrogen. Surprisingly have receptors in there that
connect to these oil glands, and to impede that or
to block those receptors means your eyesight is really really impacted.

Speaker 2 (01:14:42):
I've never heard of anyone gets any women get color
blindness with age so I've never heard that's something that happens.

Speaker 11 (01:14:50):
Okay, maybe not yeah, okay, yeah fair enough. Maybe not
full on color blindness, but yeah, I got like a
really impeded vision where I just it was like glaze
over my eyes almost. It was very, very weird. And
because yeah, that this medication blocks estrogen I discovered and

(01:15:10):
I just sort of thought, look, maybe woman could go
through this as well from the symptoms.

Speaker 2 (01:15:17):
I'll look into that. Matthew, thank you. Twenty seven past
ten Aaron Marcus welcome, Hi Marcus, how are you good eron?

Speaker 13 (01:15:26):
I heard about that text. I drive home every night
at about this time and I listened to you and
I heard about that text about the Thai cannabis that
was dropped off in nineteen eighty eight in Auckland, And
it's actually a true story. I was running bars in
central Auckland back then and we noticed this particular cannabis

(01:15:46):
arrived and we found out that it was from Thailand.
And as the story goes, it was on a container.
It was dropped off in the Bay of Islands and
pushed up towards one of the islands and they waited
for the tide to go out, and as the tide

(01:16:07):
went out, they went inside, opened the container, pulled it
all out, brought it back down into Auckland and sold
it in Central Auckland for a few months. Fascinating.

Speaker 2 (01:16:18):
So how did they take the They didn't. It was
deliberately imported.

Speaker 13 (01:16:24):
It was put on the container on a ship, right,
so there's a ship coming from Thailand. They actually had
a whole container full of it, and they pushed the
container off the boat when it was in the Bay
of Islands. They then got their little you know, their
little speed boats, went out, picked it up, dragged it

(01:16:46):
in towards one of the islands, and waited for the
tide to go out. Because you obviously couldn't put it
up onto the beach, so they had to pull it
up as far as they cut it a high tide,
wait for the tide to go out. Then they opened
the container, took it all out, and brought it back
down into Auckland and sold it through central Auckland. I
remember it vividly during that time. It was everywhere, just.

Speaker 2 (01:17:08):
Hanging on there. Erin got some more questions about that
it's not something and this is eighty eight. Hold your horses,
don't go away. I'll come back to you. Yeah, back
to you erin sure. So, how did you know about
the details of it?

Speaker 13 (01:17:27):
Because I was running bars, like I was running a
bar called the City Hotel, which was just up the
road from the Empire Tavern, and there were particular elements
there people that were yep, and you know, and that
was a place where they would sell products.

Speaker 5 (01:17:48):
Yep.

Speaker 2 (01:17:48):
Yeah, story that fits with my experience of the City Hotel.

Speaker 5 (01:17:55):
Yeah, it was.

Speaker 13 (01:17:56):
We had the bat and ball, the public bar out
the back, and the lounge bar which was which is
where all the live music was. We had that going.

Speaker 16 (01:18:04):
So yeah.

Speaker 13 (01:18:06):
The people that were distributing that product when it was
red colored, it was fascinating. They were obviously connected to
whoever was bringing it down to to Auckland and I
And it's funny, I hadn't heard about that.

Speaker 2 (01:18:20):
And and did they talk about the way that had
come under because it does sound like it could be
an even myth, doesn't it, Because how would you push
a container off a ship? Who knows?

Speaker 13 (01:18:32):
But hey, they do lots of things and it's not
even myth. The guys that told me the story, definitely
we're telling the truth. No matter that container fell off
that ship. That container got pulled up at high tied
onto a beach. They waited tired to go out, and
they pulled it all out and brought it down to
Aubland and sold it.

Speaker 2 (01:18:51):
It's highly organized, but no convictions or no one ever caught,
no please.

Speaker 13 (01:18:57):
Never, nothing, nothing ever. Nothing that would just happen for
two or three months in autumn, and you had to
be around at that time. So tonight it happened. And
even so when that text came through, I was like,
that definitely happened. I was there, I knew that were down.
I wasn't there a part of it, so I knew that.

(01:19:19):
The people telling the story to me about it, and
it's always stayed in my mind because I was like,
that's a good story, you know, like that. It seemed
very tony Vils to tear the story.

Speaker 2 (01:19:33):
Nice to hear from it. Nice to hear from you, Aaron.
Thanks for that, Steve. It's Marcus. Good evening and welcome.

Speaker 16 (01:19:39):
Hello Marcus.

Speaker 2 (01:19:41):
Steve mate.

Speaker 16 (01:19:42):
I think that ty read eight that was on the
market for over six months around the Auckland area. I
don't know about the rest of New Zealand, so it
must have been a keep of it in, but surely
people don't know.

Speaker 2 (01:19:59):
Hang on, would people market marijuana? And eighty eight as
where it's from? Specifically? People weren't really into the point
of origin. It didn't seem to be like that in
those days, did it.

Speaker 16 (01:20:11):
Well, I'm no scientists about it myself.

Speaker 2 (01:20:14):
But differently, are you a consumer? Was that something people
would ask for? Would be thie marijuana?

Speaker 16 (01:20:22):
No, it was just the way it was came about,
like mostly mostly it was up north, growing outdoors.

Speaker 21 (01:20:30):
Wasn't it currentmandel?

Speaker 9 (01:20:32):
And then.

Speaker 16 (01:20:35):
It was just it was just a different just different strain.

Speaker 2 (01:20:39):
Okay.

Speaker 16 (01:20:39):
So my point being is how long it lasted on
the on the market, okay?

Speaker 2 (01:20:45):
So connors would know it was something different, it was important,
it was a different kind of okay. And for six
months that stuff was everywhere, right.

Speaker 8 (01:20:53):
That's right.

Speaker 2 (01:20:55):
Had you heard the story, believe I believe that.

Speaker 16 (01:20:57):
I believed the container, but I don't know about the
what was it towing it in on jet skis? And
whenever he's saying, have you got it over.

Speaker 8 (01:21:09):
The water and the wharf? Wouldn't they well, I would
have thought, but.

Speaker 2 (01:21:14):
They might have avoid customers. They might have avoid avoided
customs by that.

Speaker 21 (01:21:21):
Yeah, that would be that hard.

Speaker 16 (01:21:24):
You could hit someone on the inside, which says.

Speaker 2 (01:21:28):
Wow, because you need someone on the ship to push
it off the ship, wouldn't you.

Speaker 16 (01:21:34):
It's supposed to happen out at sea in.

Speaker 2 (01:21:36):
The Bay of Islands because he's a big so it
could have been a container ship coming into the Bay
of Islands into.

Speaker 5 (01:21:41):
I don't believe.

Speaker 16 (01:21:44):
I would say that it's just unloaded, and well, I
don't know a full container or half a containers hidden
just unloaded on the wharf of the brain my opinion.

Speaker 2 (01:21:59):
Okay, it's a pretty interesting story. Normally they smoked this fire.
Thank you, Marcus for government Border agency and will check
if there's any credibility to that. Containers do get lost
over wooden storms and are constant danger the yachties. My
boss was on the drug team the eighties and all
can never mentioned that there were Thai Buddhistics that were smuggled. Marcus.

(01:22:30):
The guy, this guy who was sheer milking told me
the owner of the farm was color blind. When they
o would look at the farm, we would tell him
how pale the grass was, so not long after the
truckloads of lime would turn up. Marcus, my old boss
called an awesome boat from the police auction. The X
owner had been using it for runs out to container

(01:22:50):
boats to collect. The product that eventually got caught was
three point fifty X police boat turned drug runner. Normally
with stories like that, they've all been plundered for kind
of docu dramas and things like that, they've become the
plots to TV programs. But yeah, it's not something I've

(01:23:13):
heard about, but I am up for the discussion. I
quite like it seems like a clever way to do it.
But be hard to push a container overboard without anyone seeing.
Marcus wouldn't have full or empty shipping container on a
beach in the heavy traffic bay of Islands attract a

(01:23:34):
lot of attention, you'd think, so sounds like BS John
Marcus Taiweed. We live in a different world now. In
nineteen eighty eight, ships had their own cargo handling deck gear.
To Jennison, a single container would not be a problem.

(01:23:55):
I mean there are containerized you still have to get.
I mean you have a container ship with cranes on board,
we still have to get the crane operator to chop
it over, check it over the side. I don't know
if that's something. I mean, we need some investigative report
to look into it. It's a good story. It's the

(01:24:15):
story I've never heard and I like a bit of
a urban folklore. Good evening Alistair, it's Marcus, welcome here, going.

Speaker 8 (01:24:26):
Alista from Nelson. Here Nelson.

Speaker 2 (01:24:29):
What's that hey, Alistair from Nelson.

Speaker 8 (01:24:32):
Yeah, So Nelson College sorted out South and Boys High
School in the South Island final just recently.

Speaker 2 (01:24:39):
They were slow out of the block South and overwhelmed
and didn't get back in it.

Speaker 8 (01:24:44):
I told you that the field up here and Nelson
College is it's got a mistake there, mate, clearly.

Speaker 4 (01:24:52):
Yeah.

Speaker 8 (01:24:52):
And today they played Carlston Boys High School in the
semi final and Palmston North today and beat them twenty six.

Speaker 2 (01:25:01):
Wow. That's great for South Island rugby, isn't it? Within
the cardle South and Boys winning it last year? Now
Nelson it's Nelson College. It's co ed.

Speaker 8 (01:25:11):
No, No, it's a single sex school boys.

Speaker 2 (01:25:13):
So now it's called Nelson Boys, is it?

Speaker 9 (01:25:15):
So?

Speaker 2 (01:25:15):
Now Nelson Boys play her just.

Speaker 8 (01:25:18):
Called Nelson, It's just called Nelson College.

Speaker 2 (01:25:20):
Actually, Okay, who's Nelson College play?

Speaker 1 (01:25:22):
Now?

Speaker 8 (01:25:24):
They play Hamilton Boys High School on Sunday.

Speaker 2 (01:25:28):
Looking good for all Clo rugby with all those flash
schools that focus on it so much.

Speaker 8 (01:25:34):
Oh well, we were tough in the South Island. Note
and I'm flying. I'm flying out tomorrow at ten o'clock
and then I'll get a bus at two o'clock to
Harms the North. I couldn't get out there today due
to the business commitments, and then I've got to work
out where I'm staying yet, and then I'll watch the
game on Sunday.

Speaker 2 (01:25:55):
What's your role of the team, Alistair.

Speaker 8 (01:26:00):
I've had a big part behind the scenes.

Speaker 2 (01:26:03):
Is a school flying you up where you're going on
your own on your own dime.

Speaker 8 (01:26:09):
I'll tell you that what I've done for Nelson College.
Somebody influential person is sponsoring me and flowing me up
and then catching the bust at my own time and
then flying back on Monday.

Speaker 2 (01:26:21):
So so you're flying to Wellington not Palmerston, Is that right?

Speaker 5 (01:26:25):
Yeah?

Speaker 8 (01:26:25):
Fight the Wellington about leave at ten and then we'll
still are out at the airport and then catch this bus.
It's going to take me three hours.

Speaker 2 (01:26:34):
And then is that a road services bus?

Speaker 5 (01:26:38):
Yeah?

Speaker 8 (01:26:38):
Yeah, it's a road services bus.

Speaker 2 (01:26:40):
Yeah, it'll be a double decker one. We'll go up
the coach or Tuck, you'll be the one for Napier. Okay,
you got on that.

Speaker 8 (01:26:44):
Okay, good, Yeah, and then I'll catch up with the
boys and then we've got unfinished business because that was
our goal to try and win this title at the
start of the season.

Speaker 2 (01:26:55):
So have Nelson won it before?

Speaker 8 (01:27:00):
No, we've never. Actually, when we've got to the we've
got to the New Zealand Championships twice and the first
one though, we didn't win these games. And then the
second time we won, COVID came in so we couldn't go.
So today was a big win. Not it was was
physical game, but mentally it was a big one too

(01:27:20):
because it was their first one in the Zeland Championships.

Speaker 2 (01:27:23):
Okay, and they're away from home and the game's not
the games on Sunday, Is that right correct? Yeah, so
they've got forty hours turn around.

Speaker 8 (01:27:31):
Yeah, so they'll be resting and they'll be trying to
hear know because it was a physical game today, Yeah,
just like they just like the Southland game, you hard.

Speaker 2 (01:27:41):
Well, we've got some pretty good forwards in the South
and one of the Malayanias at first far I think
it was some good props the forwards the coach thought
needed to get into this. The New Zealand Secondary Schools team.
Hey there be a few people be going up for it,
will there.

Speaker 8 (01:27:56):
Yeah, there's a few up there already. You know, times
have been tough here and Nelson, so it's like over
the whole of New Zealand, so you know there's a
lot of pair. It's gone up with a few people yet,
but yeah, this would be major for Nelson then and
then they also play for the Renfelly Shield the Marcos
tomorrow against Hawk's Bay. So imagine if we get the double.

Speaker 2 (01:28:19):
Now I get confused with the Marcos because that's Tessmond Marcos.

Speaker 8 (01:28:24):
A there's Tessman Marcos. That's a yeah, but they're professionals.
I we're amateurs, mate, But I.

Speaker 2 (01:28:31):
Feel as more the Tessaman as more as the old Marlborough.
That's where I'm going with that one.

Speaker 8 (01:28:35):
So okay, yeah, yeah, we're going to do our best
to get the desired result.

Speaker 2 (01:28:43):
How are you going to find somewhere to stay? Have
you got the means to get somewhere to stay in
Palmerston North Allister?

Speaker 8 (01:28:48):
I'm not sure I'm not sure you made. I might
have my Nelson College jackets and a beating.

Speaker 4 (01:28:53):
I might.

Speaker 8 (01:28:53):
If I can't fight him, I'll just have to might
have to sleep under a pavilion for the nightmat. We'll
see where it goes.

Speaker 2 (01:29:01):
I sleipped in the square before. It wasn't pleasant. Why
was I sleeping in the square anyway? Oh well, look
regards to the team, and that's good. It's good if
there's a set. I mean, yeah, I'm never quite sure
about Hamilton boys. We just have to go and play
rugby with Hamilton boys on exchange as it does saim
to it. So yeah, anyway, but I guess they're kind

(01:29:21):
of their their families will be committed to it as well.
Who was the last Nelson College all black?

Speaker 9 (01:29:29):
Oh?

Speaker 8 (01:29:30):
Yes, she I'm not sure on that, to be honest,
I might have to do some homework on met for you.

Speaker 5 (01:29:38):
Yeah.

Speaker 8 (01:29:38):
No, I'm not sure on that, to be honest.

Speaker 5 (01:29:40):
Will you get up?

Speaker 2 (01:29:40):
Will you get up and watch the You probably want
to be somewady. You can watch the rugby the test
as well on Sunday morning.

Speaker 8 (01:29:48):
Oh well, now I have my focus on Nelson College first, right.

Speaker 2 (01:29:51):
Okay, Well you're a club now, I appreciate elis to
go well, have break, have a good weekend away and
nice to talk. Thanks for that, because I didn't see
those articles. I think was in the cargo out of it.
I wasn't that interested.

Speaker 8 (01:30:02):
But you know I do.

Speaker 2 (01:30:03):
I do quite like following school boy rugby, see who's
won it. But for a while there Auckland was dominant
with Rugby. All those schools did always follow that, wouldn't
they always have? You know, with a Kelston. I think
I think the final has been Kelston. And I can't remember.

(01:30:24):
Just coming up to the news people if you want
to talk quickly beforehand, and I can fix that in Marcus,
the story has a bend in it. Red weed comes
from Panama. A three meter cube could be tipped off.
The towboat may have been a commercial fishing boat. The
cube would be hard work towing. You would need the
tide running with you. There's a lot of luck need

(01:30:46):
to pull it off chairs Yeah, I agree, there's a
long text. Marcus read the container drop off the ship.
It happened easy to do. Container's float, It was easy
to push it off board. You just pay people to
organize that. They would have got paid quite a bit
of money and just float in the water, and they
knew we had to pick it up from and they

(01:31:07):
just dragged it back and waited for the tide to
go out. It sounds like a myth, but the people
I knew that knew about it, they're not mythical. They
were just highly organized smart. It was red and color,
quite complicated from impact, and shipped a container load would
only lasted about three months of selling. The people that
told me the story were the kind of people you believe.
The cops and Lord didn't really know about it because

(01:31:27):
it happened and no one got caught. It was probably
the sea rount a month before they even knew it
was going on. Remember it was only a few years
before that that the mister Asia stuff was going on,
and the police didn't know about that for about a decade.
I'll speak to some people because I've got some people
that probably would know a little bit about that, and

(01:31:48):
I'll ask some questions. But yeah, good to hear from you.
I Mike, it's Marcus. Welcome you.

Speaker 17 (01:31:57):
How are you good?

Speaker 2 (01:31:58):
Thank you, Mike.

Speaker 20 (01:32:00):
Yeah, it's too late for Mistasia because mister Agia used
to bring it in. But he used to a forty
four gallon drums landed on the wall apparently, and he.

Speaker 2 (01:32:10):
Was based up there too, wasn't he had a bat?

Speaker 10 (01:32:14):
That's right?

Speaker 20 (01:32:14):
Yeah, yeah, but eighty eight is too late for him.
Red weed, Yeah, the talking War of the worlds stuff here,
aren't we? They are red weed?

Speaker 2 (01:32:26):
Well would I mean a plant with a plant wouldn't naturally,
but it's not. It's sort of I mean, I can't
work out what it would be red. I mean, people.

Speaker 20 (01:32:35):
That would probably be the Coramandel red. There were two
strains up there, Coramandel red and Coramandel gold.

Speaker 6 (01:32:41):
And they'd not give for six what color were they?

Speaker 20 (01:32:45):
And the red Coramandal red was a reddish color. The
hes on it were red. The tie weed was generally
a brownie brownie color, and it had a sort of
a pepperminty taste and smell to it. You knew it
when you when you smoke that as soon as it
entered your lungs, eye started shutting.

Speaker 9 (01:33:07):
Yeah.

Speaker 7 (01:33:08):
Sure.

Speaker 20 (01:33:09):
My friend and I got fired from a fatory in
Sydney because we used to deal a little bit from there,
and we'd give everybody a dead all line up down
the back of the fatory and we'd give them a
cone of it to smoke before they would buy. And
one day we happen to have ty stick, which is
called tystick for a reason because it's tied to a

(01:33:31):
stick a piece of bamboo, and we got all these
people sew stones that they couldn't work their machines. When
we went back to work, and the boss sort of
knew what was going on and knew it was us too,
and told us to bugger off down the road.

Speaker 2 (01:33:51):
So what was the factory producing.

Speaker 20 (01:33:56):
Shopping trolleys?

Speaker 2 (01:33:59):
And they're off and they're off the.

Speaker 20 (01:34:04):
Trolleys and we couldn't make them really more. All I
had to do on my machine was to pull a
handle around and put a ninety degree bend in the metal.
I couldn't even do that. I couldn't even pull on
the lever because I didn't just have one.

Speaker 5 (01:34:20):
I had a few more.

Speaker 2 (01:34:23):
Yeah, I hey, talk to me. But you sound like
you know a little bit about this stuff. Are you
familiar with the shipment that came in that was off
the side of the boat and from Thailand in eighty eight?

Speaker 19 (01:34:34):
Is it?

Speaker 2 (01:34:35):
Or were you in Sydney then in prison?

Speaker 8 (01:34:41):
Oh?

Speaker 20 (01:34:41):
I don't know where. I don't know where I wasn't
eighty eight.

Speaker 26 (01:34:46):
It wasn't for you.

Speaker 16 (01:34:49):
Yeah, never never heard.

Speaker 20 (01:34:51):
Of that, alls, I knows mister Asa used to bring
it on forty four gallon drums. So a whole container
full of it does sound a bit. That's a lot
of money, because tyweeders it's worth bloody millions because it's
so good.

Speaker 2 (01:35:09):
Yeah, so it would be. It would be a huge thing,
wouldn't it. It would be a huge It would be. Okay,
well if.

Speaker 20 (01:35:16):
This guy's got done for bringing a few bags at Wells,
but more than a few bags of pea and up.

Speaker 2 (01:35:23):
I didn't I didn't watch the TV series on that,
but that was an extraordinary thing to try and do,
was I mean, it seemed to some of these schemes
seem to be quite hair brained.

Speaker 20 (01:35:33):
Yeah, well, the whole container is going to gather a
lot of interest, you'd imagine, so, wouldn't you. It seems
too big to be true. Weird things have happened.

Speaker 2 (01:35:48):
Yeah, but yeah, I just there as a lot of folk.

Speaker 20 (01:35:52):
They all lost to bulldozer on the West coast for
six months on one of their carriages.

Speaker 5 (01:35:58):
Okay, it was it was meant to be.

Speaker 20 (01:36:01):
In christ Church six months later they founded on the
West coast, still on a carriage.

Speaker 6 (01:36:06):
Out of interesting Richard Prebble's book.

Speaker 2 (01:36:10):
Yeah, Richard Prebble's book was interesting because they and all
the all the carriages are all the wagons off the
end of the wolf that picked. And also, yeah, anyway.

Speaker 20 (01:36:20):
I think he might have found a bit of red
weed before even he operated it.

Speaker 2 (01:36:25):
Thanks Mike Markets, Marcus good evening.

Speaker 10 (01:36:27):
Welcome the legendary eighty eight shipment, the tie stick, the
yellow the Yellow Bud. So how does this legend begin?
It begins in March of nineteen ninety eight with the Beg,

(01:36:50):
with the Pink Floyd concert. It's Western springs. It peaks
with the mc jagger concert November of nine eighty eight.
The whole thing was, it was real, It really was real.

(01:37:14):
I was able to go away as an experienced kid
who'd scored a hundred dollars bag in summer of eighty
eighty nine.

Speaker 5 (01:37:31):
And be cool.

Speaker 10 (01:37:34):
I had some good weed.

Speaker 2 (01:37:37):
So is this famous amongst people? This whole crop from
this year? Is that what you're saying from eighty eight?

Speaker 9 (01:37:45):
Is that? Right?

Speaker 6 (01:37:46):
Yeah?

Speaker 10 (01:37:48):
Well, if you weren't, I don't know where you were.
Where you are, right, but within the greater Auckland is Smiths. Yeah, man,
it was legendary. It was a one off.

Speaker 2 (01:38:03):
It sounds like something. It sounds like it could be
a good but a book be a good bit of
investigative journalism. Fifty year anniversary, Tell me something. Did people
know that it was from this container that was lost?
It were pushed off the side of the ship. Was
it talked about at the time?

Speaker 3 (01:38:18):
Was it all new?

Speaker 2 (01:38:19):
Is it new for you tonight?

Speaker 9 (01:38:22):
No?

Speaker 3 (01:38:23):
What it was was it was like a.

Speaker 10 (01:38:27):
The seventy eight thing with the mister Asia carry on
into that. It was like it was like an echo
over there for a generation that had There was the
there was the Pat Booth book. Is that the guy's name.

Speaker 2 (01:38:48):
For the Sunday start for the Auckland Star?

Speaker 10 (01:38:51):
Yep, yep. It was the mister that had come out
and it was still sniffing around in the in the
there was this whole thing about New Zealand had crime.
At that time, there was beyond reasonable doubt movie and

(01:39:11):
did there was stuff about New Zealanders she had crime.
So at that time there was a bit of sniff, Oh,
this is actually con you know, Okay, there's something.

Speaker 2 (01:39:27):
I'm not I'm not. It's all a bit short on details, Mark, No,
there was.

Speaker 10 (01:39:32):
There isn't what we tell you that I walked down
the road. Now I gave my fifty year this guy
or my twenty guy or how do you work?

Speaker 2 (01:39:43):
Did you get did you get to the concerts?

Speaker 19 (01:39:46):
Oh?

Speaker 2 (01:39:47):
Hell yes, I'SO got the tickets to which ones?

Speaker 10 (01:39:52):
All of them?

Speaker 2 (01:39:53):
So what who who visited in eighty eight?

Speaker 4 (01:39:58):
Oh?

Speaker 10 (01:39:59):
Okay, so there was. There was a lot promised after
Bowie and Ady seven. So the end the Bobbie concert,
whoever was the promoter said.

Speaker 17 (01:40:11):
Yeah, well bringing were bringing blah blah.

Speaker 10 (01:40:14):
Blah, George Mike. I've got a George Michael poster for
Western Springs that didn't happen.

Speaker 2 (01:40:24):
Nineteen eighty eight canceled.

Speaker 10 (01:40:26):
Michael yep, Michael Jackson was supposed to come here. That
whole era. That was huge of a coming, so thick
and fast after the Dire Straits thing where they realized
that they were coming and get sixty thousand people to
gig I'm.

Speaker 2 (01:40:45):
Going to go, Marke, but nice to talk. Thank you
for that for Sean Marcus.

Speaker 21 (01:40:48):
Welcome, oh Marcus. Going back to the subject of those boys,
the remote controlled boys at the America's Cup season and
you I mentioned that you'd heard that they were made
in New Zealand or we had some connection here, Darren

(01:41:09):
christ a chair. We've got the what's upper crosses, We've
got the Hamilton Jet company. You've said at them and
they I'm not sure if they are the ones that
have got whatever's going on, those boys, but I know
that Hamilton Jet make this global positioning carry on for

(01:41:38):
the boats that they make. And I'm in Diamond Harbor
and I've seen there's this boat that's over in Lyttleton
and it's probably in the probably thirty five big launch,
big Camaroni type launch string they take hunters out on

(01:42:02):
to show them all the guff that they got. And
I've seen this boat out on the harbor here when
she's been blowing a solid thirty knots and I've lined
it up with a window jam and the thing. Yeah,

(01:42:22):
they take it out there and the thing just they
put it in a spot and it just does not
move an inch off. You know your eye too, what
do they take it s?

Speaker 2 (01:42:34):
What do they take it out? What are they doing too?

Speaker 5 (01:42:36):
Is off?

Speaker 21 (01:42:37):
Well, it's not a tour, you know, if they if
there's some you know, somebody wants a boat that will
stay directly in position. You know, perhaps you've got.

Speaker 2 (01:42:48):
Some divers down, so they're demonstrating the boat.

Speaker 21 (01:42:53):
Yeah, okay, and take capabilities of what it can do.

Speaker 19 (01:42:57):
And I know that.

Speaker 21 (01:42:58):
You know, if you're out on a boat and you're
just trying to hold it against a strong wind, it's
and it will be a hard thing to do to
hold your position exactly, you know, with your oral control
and all the other elements that you've got going against you.

(01:43:18):
But these things they just do not move absolutely at all.

Speaker 11 (01:43:25):
And they.

Speaker 21 (01:43:27):
They their factory is across the road from where I work.

Speaker 2 (01:43:33):
And these are these are jet engines. These are those
in board inboard expulsion engines. Aren't they they Hamilton Jet engines? Yeah, okay, sure, sure,
I've clicked on the article about these stationary boys. I
think it seems from the article that they have been
made by Team us in and themselves. It's something that
Team New Zealand developed because they run the Cup, so
they've come up with their own moving boys, GPS controlled

(01:43:57):
and Thomous marketing. Because I couldn't work it out, because
the woman keeps coming on from race committee. This is
the race Committee. And then I thought, well, who's moving them?
But they just they must just move them, so elves.

Speaker 21 (01:44:07):
Yeah, Now there's a scale that goes bigger than just
this demonstrative boat that you know, I've seen demonstrated out
in the harbor here apparently and and I don't know
who's making it, if it's Hamilton Jet that's doing it,
but they can apparently do this for oil rigs and

(01:44:33):
instead of sort of having to have an oilready go
out to sea and they drop the legs down a
you know, a couple of miles and then start boring
in so they can actually hold an oil rig in
position and then drop the.

Speaker 2 (01:44:52):
Yeah about that and you probably could do with with
satellites and stuff and GPS positioning. It's probably a lot
easier the ground.

Speaker 21 (01:45:01):
Yeah, they think of the boddy the Yeah, you get
a big you know, you're out in the North Sea
and you've got a huge hurricane comes through and trying
to hold an oil rig and the amount of woundeds
you have on that in one position while you've got
a you know, a board down into the into the ground.
You think, God, if they could do that, that is

(01:45:24):
that was truly amazing engineering should be on TV.

Speaker 2 (01:45:30):
And how do you stop it going up and down
when you're drilling? I don't know how they work with.

Speaker 21 (01:45:33):
That, true. I suppose if it's if it would be
going up and down and it's you know, the boar
could come out, you know, it could rise up and down.
If it doesn't move, that probably wouldn't be too much
of an issue, but any sideways movement would be Yeah,

(01:45:54):
that wouldn't be a good look. But yeah, up and down,
and I think I would worry it.

Speaker 2 (01:46:00):
Okay, I believe with this, Sean, But thank you. Do
anyone want to agree with me that they're going to
get up and watch the rugby live because watching it
delayed there's something a bit weird about it. Don't like
it not the same. You don't know what's going to happen.
And I don't think you can share along a team
if you're watching it delayed, because what's the point That's me?

(01:46:21):
I'm a firm believer in that watching it live. I'm
still the all Backs by ten points because I see
that to Lois on Monday and we'll talk to her
again next week. She was a very lively caller on Monday.
She was furious with the appointment of the current coach.

(01:46:46):
Here we go. This is interesting cannabis and container. It's
an urburne myth I know one hundred percent definitely didn't happen.
It morphed from the grounding of the brigadoon on the
west coast, where the local police officer helped the people
who were stranded, not knowing it was full of Buddhistics

(01:47:08):
from Thailand. Was one of the first efforts by mister Asia.
I think for memory around the late seventies, names like
Marty Johnson and Peter Fulter, both the seas and bad men.
They soon realized that heroine was more valuable and profitabile, however,
caused their downfall. Yeah, that certainly rings a bell, the

(01:47:28):
name of the brigadoon. Thanks for that, because it just
sounds to me to be something that the details sound
like the details of urban myths, because you know, with
urban myths, people putting two things. About urban myths, people
putting more detail than is required, and people all swear

(01:47:51):
black and blue. It happened like they've been given the
inside information. Now, I don't fully know the circumstances of
the Brigadoon, but I think in my day I read

(01:48:15):
a lot of those mister Rasia books and stuff like that.
It was a pretty fascinating time, pretty fascinating journalism as well,
and a large number of people got buried in strange
places under airports and stuff like that. So the story

(01:48:38):
of the Brigadoon, let me think of I've got more
information about that. Seventy five, four hundred and fifty thousand
cannabis buddhistics val you with three million from Thailand using
the eight en meter yall Brigadoon. She made a relevant,
a relatively uneventful voyage from Auckland Department get in New Canada,

(01:49:01):
but it started to go wrong. Policing customs had their
on the Brigadoon, soap protect was their voyage. They eventually
lost interest and when she arrived off the far North
East coast, running aground at Taimado Bay, the locals, reinforced
by mong Nui's sole police officer, pushed her back into

(01:49:22):
the water and waved her crew farewell with no inkling.
They're up to no good. So I don't know what
happened to it in the end. Yeah, anyway, Hi Marcus
was really good. The warriors finally found how to win.

(01:49:43):
I think they got to buy Marcus. There was definitely
a red strain of cannabis called Panama Red. Not sure
if it's still around, but was really popular back then. Marcus,
I've always I always watched the rugby live. As you say,
it's not the same delayed, so we'll be getting up.
I won't risk it, and I think it's clumsy to

(01:50:03):
watch it delayed. Don't like it. Get in touch if
you want to talk. JT. Marcus welcome.

Speaker 3 (01:50:10):
Hi there, Marcus. Your weekly shipping report brought to you
by JT.

Speaker 2 (01:50:16):
Thanks JT.

Speaker 3 (01:50:17):
Now, now this barge on the west coast. Have we
ever seen a barge operating on coastal routes in New
Zealand in the past.

Speaker 2 (01:50:29):
Have we ever seen a barge?

Speaker 3 (01:50:32):
Yeah, a barge operating like this on the coast of
New Zealand in the past.

Speaker 2 (01:50:38):
The only thing I haven't, the only thing that I know.
That's because I know people that worked on the coast
and their desire to get stuff removed from the Gray
and the Westport stuff and that was fertilizer dropped off
or pebbles removed, and they had the ana tokey, which
you and I have talked about. I think that was
fit for purpose for a while, but it's quite small.

Speaker 3 (01:50:58):
I think, yeah, that's that's a lot better ship that's
suited for coastal shipping. Yes, because we've never seen, you know,
from port to port coastal shipping in New Zealand with barges,
and that's because that's worse. The seas don't suit. I mean,

(01:51:18):
it will be bad enough on the east coast of
New Zealand. You'd think if it was possible then a
pot would have been done like between like I don't know,
between like Little Turn and Napy or something that will
be really really handy. But that sort of ship. Maybe
if they put more powerful thrusters on it, that will help.

(01:51:43):
But I mean it's got a fifty percent record.

Speaker 2 (01:51:47):
So far, has only done two trips.

Speaker 3 (01:51:51):
It's only done two trips and it's been barely at once.

Speaker 2 (01:51:56):
Just a couple of things that I know. The Maritime
Union Union are concerned because the crew of eleven were
all foreign seamen, so they don't know the local conditions.
The other thing though, is you don't need the barges
to go from Napier, from Timaru to Napier because the
ships can get into those harbors. They've got proper harbors.
So that's the only other thing I'd say. They've only

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got it because the West coast is so problematic.

Speaker 3 (01:52:21):
Yeah yeah, and at barge like that, it was built
for coastal conditions off Korea, so when you compare that
to the conditions off Westport. But the other thing I
was going to say to it, I was saying to
a friend of mine, was if you've got the barge
and it's loaded, and it's in the harbor at Westport,

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you just wait for a weather window when you know
you're going to have like forty eight hours of not
much swell, and then you go out and you transfer
it to another ship. But and then you come back
in before the weather blows up again. But the problem
with that is they're going to tie up this ship

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that's come from China, like one hundred med a ship
up to one hundred meters barge. And that's all fine
when it's when the sea's really.

Speaker 21 (01:53:12):
Charm but.

Speaker 3 (01:53:14):
You can't do that for hour after hour after hour
after hour. It doesn't seem feasible. But it was going
to be interesting to see what happens from here.

Speaker 9 (01:53:24):
This is my.

Speaker 2 (01:53:27):
It's not my specialist topic. But this is because my
grandfather operided work for the Westport Steam Company, operating ships
going out of Westport carrying coal and then and then
he was the dredge master at Westport as well, so
when they still dredged it.

Speaker 3 (01:53:46):
But how deep is it now? Do you reckon.

Speaker 19 (01:53:51):
At all?

Speaker 2 (01:53:53):
But but you talk about this now south of because
I know we were on a tramping holiday south of
west Sport around a place called Charleston, right, I knows, Well,
yeah you would too, you'd be out. But they they
had an situation. They had aerial cableways and they tried

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to export the coal by putting it on aerial cableways
to go onto ships. Do you know about that.

Speaker 3 (01:54:23):
Yeah, there's a little Whee Harbor and Charleston there.

Speaker 2 (01:54:26):
But they just but they tried, they tried that. There
was like an aerial railway and there was an attempt
of loading coal. Have you read anything about that?

Speaker 3 (01:54:36):
Yeah, yeah, I know about that. You could sort of
They used to put a ship in there. It was
all very good when it was calm, but you'd put
the ship and you'd load everything up and probably a
matter of hours and then you'd bugger off. So it's
how big an envelopal good weather are going to have

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on the west coast there. But also that ball of
bay where that barge was anchored off the coast, it's
surprisingly how it's surprisingly sheltered by black re and the
steeples to the west. It was only rarely getting hammered
when the wind was coming from.

Speaker 10 (01:55:13):
The north.

Speaker 3 (01:55:16):
Okay, because there's reefs called the black reef and the steeples.
I mean, maybe they should turn that into a huge breakwader,
Old old Shane Jones, old Spanky Jones, he would be
into that.

Speaker 2 (01:55:32):
I don't think we call them spanky Jones? Do is
that respectful tree Minister of the Crown.

Speaker 9 (01:55:37):
No?

Speaker 3 (01:55:37):
No, I shouldn't say that.

Speaker 2 (01:55:40):
I just don't want to get in trouble. But I
think people know what you're saying. Is that what he's called?

Speaker 9 (01:55:43):
Is it? No? No?

Speaker 3 (01:55:47):
But there was a photo of home off the Manahua
in the background.

Speaker 2 (01:55:54):
I think.

Speaker 9 (01:55:56):
J T.

Speaker 2 (01:55:56):
I think you've dismissed me a bit about this aerial
cableway the coal flome to Seal Island. Can you actually
acknowledge that that's a thing? Nah?

Speaker 3 (01:56:08):
Not really, not really?

Speaker 2 (01:56:09):
What do you mean you categorized it. Did they built it?
There's still remnants of it there?

Speaker 3 (01:56:15):
Yeah, yeah, well there was there. What happened happened? What happened?

Speaker 2 (01:56:19):
What happened? Did they manage to load any ships with it?

Speaker 14 (01:56:22):
What was it?

Speaker 2 (01:56:22):
Just it was a white elephant?

Speaker 3 (01:56:25):
Well I imagined they probably got to work, but they
would have only been able to use it for an
hour or two because you wouldn't be able to have
a ship because it was too rocky in the surrounds.
You could stick your ship in there for a few
hours on a calm day, and that was probably about it.

Speaker 2 (01:56:45):
Okay, I want to get some more information about that.
I just thought you might have be able to some
research for me. But there are a lot of photos
of it.

Speaker 3 (01:56:54):
As for that weed coming in in the shipping container,
that sounds like a load of b es because if
you've got to contain, if you've got to contain the
fall of weed, that would be about fifty forty cubic meters,
But it's too much quantity, well, especially on a.

Speaker 2 (01:57:15):
Beach for a small I think what I do know
about drugs right.

Speaker 9 (01:57:20):
Is that.

Speaker 2 (01:57:23):
Every time you saturate the market, the price falls. So
why would you.

Speaker 3 (01:57:29):
How much you know about drugs. Well, I'm surprised how
much you know about drugs around eighty eight.

Speaker 2 (01:57:37):
Well you could just know that from what people say.
Well the police always say there's been a surge of method,
it's dropped in price. But anyway, so yeah, I just yeah,
I was.

Speaker 3 (01:57:47):
Actually in Auckland in eighty seven, So you were in
Auckland and eighty seven eighty eight as well.

Speaker 2 (01:57:53):
Yes, what were you doing?

Speaker 3 (01:57:55):
I was hanging I was at the Polytech and the
ATI and hanging around the Globe hotel.

Speaker 2 (01:58:01):
Goodness, what we're studying JT? Is Is it anything of
an interest?

Speaker 4 (01:58:08):
Ah?

Speaker 3 (01:58:08):
No, that that's a secret.

Speaker 2 (01:58:15):
They called it au T now used to be you
can see it all in at I. We need the
money that is web but it's a u T. I
want to know more about the secret Cole cableway because
otherwise I'm not going to sleep tonight for researching that.
And I'm fascinated by it, this cable way. Hi, Margaret's
Marcus welcome?

Speaker 22 (01:58:36):
Yeah, Hi Marcus. I'm on the West coast, balled up
out that area. Kids with a batch out there. The
guy was talking about a bay in Charleston. It's called
Constance Bay. I think yes, and yep. The shipstead used
to come in the goodness loaners how long ago and

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whether it was Cole I was banging out of there
or not open no, But there are red boots of
the boats that tied up on there and rooms that
have been drilled into into the rocks. It's a very
narrow little bay.

Speaker 2 (01:59:10):
Is this is this Constant Did you say, yeah, it's
Constant Bay?

Speaker 7 (01:59:16):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (01:59:16):
Okay, it's tiny, isn't it. Okay?

Speaker 22 (01:59:18):
Yep, yeah, very narrow little bay. Now that's that is
that Charleston. But to the south from Charleston is a
place called Woodpecker Bay and that's where Seal Island is.
And they had a they did have a you know

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something going from the land out to the out to
the bins of the on the I think it's on
the northern.

Speaker 23 (01:59:46):
Side of.

Speaker 22 (01:59:48):
Seal Island, and they used to take I think it
was bright Water the mine was called, and they used
to take it out and I think in wagons, you know,
on a on a rope out to there. And as
kids growing up, we used to go over there fishing
all the time. The remnants of the bins were still

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theirs and we we we even to this day where
we go crait fishing, the kids always say we're going
to get go around the bins, or we're going to
go around the back.

Speaker 2 (02:00:22):
So and would the ships just pull up on the
seaward side of Seal Island and that that tipped the
colon from the bins on the cableway? Is it how
it worked?

Speaker 22 (02:00:32):
Yeah, I'm sure that it must have been something like that.

Speaker 5 (02:00:35):
Marketing.

Speaker 22 (02:00:35):
I don't really know.

Speaker 2 (02:00:36):
I don't think. I don't think. I don't think it's
very successful. I think they only managed to do it once,
and I think it was too sketchy. That's my understanding
from a quick read of articles. But I know there
was because I've camped there. I know there was quite
a lot of infrastructure, cables and stuff built there. It
was quite a big deal, wasn't it.

Speaker 22 (02:00:53):
Absolutely it was, But.

Speaker 23 (02:00:55):
I mean that was years.

Speaker 22 (02:00:56):
We're only kids growing up out there in more recent years,
and there's definitely remnants of it there and it definitely happened.

Speaker 2 (02:01:05):
Okay said that, Mark, Thank you? Idiot's Marcus. You've got
something to add to that, have you?

Speaker 9 (02:01:12):
Yeah, Marcus, my uncle used to go in there and
the talisman and pick up timber timber down that came
away the ra who used to go in there and
pick up coal. The cable was still stretched when I
was a kid. You could see they had a wheels
and put on it. You could have gone across to
the island. But there was a bit of a bit

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of a jetty on the island itself. Okay, I can
tie up.

Speaker 2 (02:01:40):
To so it'd be pretty sketchy weather though, wouldn't it.

Speaker 9 (02:01:44):
Oh No, very sheltered in there.

Speaker 4 (02:01:47):
And they go inside the island inside it.

Speaker 2 (02:01:50):
Okay, so there's a bit of a harbor and they
can see there's good this good depth there as well,
with no rocks. Okay, that makes sense to me. Yeah, Eddie,
just before you go, I don't know who you are.
I just can see you're Eddie. Is that is that
dn the dridge? Is that the plan over? Or you reckon?

Speaker 4 (02:02:09):
It's worth persevering with the barge, or I would have
done a deal with Russia and got some of their
small cargo ships down here to run up and down
the coast Logan U Street.

Speaker 2 (02:02:21):
Okay.

Speaker 9 (02:02:22):
They used to cake cole out of here in the margin.
But the Margle's tone not still for pill.

Speaker 2 (02:02:27):
Okay, And where would they tell it to.

Speaker 9 (02:02:31):
I think it was going to New Promise, I think,
and that.

Speaker 2 (02:02:35):
Was quite successful, was it?

Speaker 9 (02:02:38):
Well? I did a few loads out of here because
they go right past in front of my house here.

Speaker 2 (02:02:43):
Okay, Lucky, did you go over look at the barge
on the beach? Was the big stay?

Speaker 9 (02:02:47):
Too old? Now, mate, old can't want the.

Speaker 2 (02:02:53):
Nice to hear from you anythink you you take care?
Oh yeah, he didn't need a sweepsteake after all.

Speaker 1 (02:03:01):
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