I think we've reached peak pillow (9 April 2025)

Big news for folks who've always wanted to be on our favourite quiz show, and some excellent tips on how to get to sleep if that's something you struggle with.

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Speaker 1 (00:07):
You're listening to the Marcus Lush Nights podcast from News Talks.

Speaker 2 (00:11):
A'd be.

Speaker 3 (00:13):
Seven greetings, Welcome Marcus till twelve A A Wednesday.

Speaker 4 (00:16):
Hump Day.

Speaker 3 (00:17):
Well, remember that time we had talked back and that
guy reckoned. He was the first that well, I talked
about hump Day and he rang up and he said
his first two to hump Day at sun Beach in California.
Then we found out that's where it was invented and
it wasn't some particular rugby player over there. Gosh, I
remember that well now earlier this year. Anyway, I think
that every time I say hump day, I think he

(00:38):
was across there and he met a guy I'd met
playing rugby. No, he'd met a guy tramping around like
why Kiramawan or I think we had to stay with
him and the guys did a tump day. Let's go
get a beer. Rilliant can remember the beach. It wasn't Venice.
It was one of those beaches in Los Angeles anyway,
So hump day, third day of coping with daylight savings.
Hope it's all going well for you, wellish for you,

(01:00):
by the way I'm feeling, it's a three topic night Tonight.
First and foremost, New Zealand's getting a version of the Chase,
although it sounds a little bit timid. We're getting just
four episodes, so I reckon if they're going to do
four episodes, they're not going to put much effort into it.

(01:21):
But it might be a teaser see if they work.
So I'm sure it's expensive to film, and I don't know.
If New Zealand's got Chasers, they could wheel up some
of those people that used to do well in Sale
of the Century. Find some of those people, some of
those quiz legends. It was always that woman and I
had a guessk and wasn't. I presume she's deceased now.

(01:42):
But anyway, so that's gonna happen the New Zeland version
of the Chase. They're going to film it in Sydney.
Go Figure, and you've got to pay your own way
to get there. Go Figure. The Chasers, well, I'm not
sure they want Higgety o legedty Higiny. She's going to
be one. So applications are open. I hope they are

(02:07):
New Zealand related questions. I don't know why they're just
doing four travel and accommodation cost would be at the
participants expense, so clearly on the budget anyway. So I
don't know why they're doing just four shows because TV

(02:28):
they don't do much local TV anymore. So there we go.
So there's going to be a New Zand version of
the Chase? Is anyone interested in that? Will you apply
to go on? Who should have hosted? Where do you go?
You go with the Husking or do you go with
the Barnead? Who knows?

Speaker 4 (02:44):
I don't know.

Speaker 3 (02:45):
I don't know if these people want to do it
for four shows and who do you get as the chases?
Would you go on it? I hope there's locally engineered questions.
I think that would be quite fun. But I don't
think New Zealand has that because they tried Who Wants
to Be a Quasillionaire and that was filmed in Australia
as well. I think was all right, but on he
went for the one series because I don't think the

(03:07):
market is big enough to do a big budget show
and that's a situation there with that one. But anyway,
if you're just off bat that's just been announced. What's
been announced today? So who do you think the person
you want to host that and would you go on it.
I don't know when they're going to show it either.
It's kind of a strange decision. But you've got something

(03:29):
to say about that. Were nice to hear from you.
I guess it's going to be called Chase New Zealand,
a four episodes special. I suspect I'm just thinking of this. Oh,
and it's going to suspect it would be well known people,
but they are. There is a form where you can apply.

(03:51):
I've clicked on that. People, I can stop you clicking
on I'll tell you what it says. I don't know
that guy. I don't know the Irish guy with a string.
I don't know that tie. I don't like that at all,
that string tie. I know it's his things. Look, you
click on something. Applications closed by the thirtieth of May.

(04:17):
And if your apply, it's got your first name, last name,
email confirm email password, your phone number, your gender Here
we go, your date of birth, your occupation, your marital status.
Do you have children, names and ages? Do you have pets? Wow?

(04:40):
What if you have got pets? Are you in Australian
your im permanent citizen? Where are you from? Originally and
how long have you been in Australia.

Speaker 5 (04:51):
It's weird.

Speaker 3 (04:54):
You've got to click with your agree with all the
costs to go with travel accommodation. You've got to agree
to a police check and that's so basically they're doing
it on your police and what pitts you've got other
I won't know about your ambitions or a funny story
from your past. So there we go. If you want

(05:15):
to do you want to be only going to apply.
Who should be the host? That's the first question for
you tonight and are you excited? I imagine people will say, ooh,
not as good as the English one, because people are
quite tough when they've seen the overseas version. The local
version is kind of a pale because the studio quality

(05:36):
in the standard aren't quite the same. Marcus checked my
local bakery. They had all the nips there, saw ice
for the ice maker, honeycomb. There we are. I plan
on getting it tomorrow night. Thank you for that. Chamou,
Shamoove and Spoos. I think they're a football supporter. Get
in touch by name is Marcus welcome oh eight hundred

(05:57):
and eighty ten eighty nine to nine two text twelve
past eight. To keep those texts, I even looked at
the text yet, keep those coming in just to quick
go around on the chase. Which are the chases? Would
you want to be a part of it too? He
would be the one and h oh, what about the
one that married his cousin lebat He's always good. Marcus

(06:23):
would have to be Die Henwood as the host for
the chase, he'd be perfect Mandy from the neck.

Speaker 5 (06:27):
E cheapest creepers.

Speaker 3 (06:39):
Get in touch, Marcus. No more silly suburbs. What's a
silly suburb, Beth? It's Marcus. Greetings and welcome, Hi Beth.

Speaker 6 (06:53):
Hello, how are you?

Speaker 3 (06:54):
Oh good Beth? What's happening?

Speaker 4 (06:56):
Well?

Speaker 6 (06:57):
I just wanted to point out a whole lot in
New Zealanders live in Australia and they were probably rejected
from the Australian version, and that's why they're doing these
four episodes.

Speaker 3 (07:07):
I imagine. What's interesting because it's got specific questions about living
in Australia. So probably if there's Kiwis in Australia, they
would get there not have to pay any money, So
maybe that's what they are looking for.

Speaker 7 (07:17):
Would they be rejected, well, I think from the Australian
version of it.

Speaker 6 (07:22):
If you're not Australian, maybe you can't go on it.

Speaker 3 (07:25):
Yeah, okay, it's a good point. Maybe they might just
be getting local as long as they wouldn't sound Australian.
You get Kiwi's locally.

Speaker 6 (07:34):
Yeah, but they've opened it to New Zealand as well.
But it's only two rich New Zealanders who could afford
to fly over the.

Speaker 3 (07:41):
Surprising, you know, because it's not the most lucrative quiz
show for most of the people. I don't know if
that's the same in the UK. Does anyone do you
know that?

Speaker 6 (07:52):
No, it's a lot of them don't win.

Speaker 3 (07:55):
It's right.

Speaker 6 (07:55):
Only occasionally did they win.

Speaker 3 (07:57):
That's exactly right.

Speaker 6 (07:59):
A huge amount of money, It's.

Speaker 3 (08:01):
Not a life changing amount.

Speaker 4 (08:04):
No.

Speaker 6 (08:04):
I think most of them probably do it for the
kudos of being on TV.

Speaker 3 (08:09):
I suspect a lot of them in the UK. And
I don't know this, but I suspect a lot of
them because they talk about a lot of them come
from pub quiz teams. They quite often mentioned pub quiz
and they often say they're like quizzing, and I'm sure
they go on the pub quizzes and approach people that
they think they're smart, because you want some smart ones

(08:29):
to go on the show. I'm sure that's what they do.
That's just my thought. Don't know that though.

Speaker 6 (08:35):
Yeah, And there's been rumors over the years that the
quizz people like the chaser gets fed the answers.

Speaker 3 (08:43):
Really, what would they do that?

Speaker 6 (08:46):
I don't know. I think last year there were two
rumors because there were particular programs where and they pointed
out that Bradley drags out the questions for the contestants,
that talks really fast through the questions for the chaser.

Speaker 3 (09:06):
Yeah. Surprised how much conspiracy there is around it. I
thought kind of people take it too seriously and they
think also, yeah, okay, and they think also that when
you are and the team, they say the person's now
they don't tay the person's name. But there's something that
they think it's longer when you're in the team. What
do they think that's longer when you're in the team
and not on your own, Oh, you got to buzz

(09:27):
and don't sure you've got a buzz in? Yeah?

Speaker 6 (09:30):
Yeah, and then the name has to get called in
the right person has to answer.

Speaker 4 (09:34):
No.

Speaker 3 (09:34):
I think anyone can answer, can't.

Speaker 6 (09:36):
They no, only the person whose name is called.

Speaker 3 (09:40):
If you pushed the buzzy of the person, it's got
a okay they do they call your name? Yeah, okay,
what up on? At sixteen past eight? My name is Marcus. Welcome,
here'll twelve the Chase? What do you got? What do
you got? Who should be in it? Would you go? Marcus?
You said in Chase, but film and Sydney, Australia, so
it should be Australian Chase. I tried closing my eyes

(10:04):
looking for the apple, saw nothing. Yeah, Chase's in but
filmed in Australia. Marcus, listen to you over here, be
going home Wednesday week. I'm Anthony am and Mendano in
the Philippines. Are you a fofo? Is it true? Though
you have to pay for the flights accommodation out of
your own pocket. That's correct. But if you live in
Sydney you'd be good to go. So it might be

(10:26):
just a whole lot of mossies or whatever they call
them there, Marcus. I was on stumpers with Roger Gasko
in a long time ago. I don't think he is
deceased as you may have thought. No, he's always it
to Papa, looks exactly the same. I've seen them there

(10:48):
endlessly at Tipapa. Get in touched. My name is Marcus.
On the chase, are you going to go? Apply? Which
chases do you want? Although it's only I don't know
why they're just doing it for four episodes. Seems a
little bit fishy for me. Get in touch, Marcus till
twelve o eight, one hundred and eighty tend if it's
something that you want to text talk about, be good
to hear from you. If you've got breaking whose surprise

(11:08):
to see that the manga Taranaki they reckon the chance
of that going up, I've never thought about this, well,
I kind of thought about it, but never thought about
it that kind of clearly. So this reckon, they reckon
it will go up, Like there's fifty percent of a

(11:30):
chance of it exploding. Yeah, in the next little whit whole,
we're deleted by emails, So let me just mention this also,
Taranaki monga could erupt in the next fifty years. Pretty extraordinary,
isn't it. Research from Volcanoledge is found there was a

(11:54):
thirty for fifty percent chance of Taranaki manga erupting in
the next fifty years. It's like half a chance in
the next fifty years it'll go cheaper. Is Marcus, congrats
to rupoona speedway for screwing the supercars twenty twenty six
for Southland? Is how many speedway parks are operational on

(12:15):
the South Island? I don't know. Get in touch, Marcus
Till twelve oh eight hundred and eighty ten eighty nine
to text us in the chase? Does that pique your interest?
And if you want to talk about some of those
conspiracies of the chase. I haven't heard about those for
a while. But I think you've got to realize it's entertainment.

(12:39):
It's going to see if you can answer some questions
and how smart you are. I don't think you've got
to try and work out that perhaps it's not quite
as fair as it should be, although I'm sure the
producers love that that you're invested and they have online
battles about it. Get in touch, Marcus Till twelve, nineteen
past eight, looking forward to Is there something else you
want to mention tonight? Talkback sky hump Day. Let me

(13:02):
take the jersey off. We've got problems with the air conditioning.
I've got the air conditioning button. It's do not touch.
Why would you have E conditioning? You can't touch it?
Cheapers for a month. There's a post it note that
says do not touch USID in version of the Chase,
there's just four episodes. Here's someone's text Eve from christ

(13:22):
Church Marcus save the perfect plan to save terrestrial TV
cancel seven sharp, put n Z Chase on instead after
the six pm news at seven o'clock with Guy Williams hosting.
So TV and z TV one has it both as
both Chase shows booking in the news hour. Wow, I

(13:47):
reckon they'd find it too expensive to find someone to
write all the questions. Pretty interesting story out a christ
Church out of food poisoning. Zin chen Lu own you
of the Samurai Samurai Bowl and Columbus Strict christ Church
sold toxic food right and she sold told concerned staff

(14:11):
that bacteria wasn't killing bacteria and kiwis need to be
toughened up. Ah yeah, she told one employee if this
happened in China, you eat the product and probably get
diarrhea for one day, but then your body gets toughened
up for the bacteria Kiwi. People here are friggin' week
They need to be toughened up. Brilliant. There's a straight talker.

(14:37):
It's the Ramen noodles. I think frozen pre frozen, not God.
There we go because you often hear about restaurants or
cafes getting bad food ratings, but you never hear about
some of them actually coming out and saying that we
should toughen up. Anyway, get in touch by Name's Marcus
Hidle twelve oh eight hundred and eighty ten eighty Marcus

(14:59):
went to the Minecraft movie. Did you know some of
it is filmed in Huntley? Anyway, there's a scene in
the movie we're as zombie rides a chicken, and at
that certain point of the movie, all the kids stand
up and throw the popcorn and stuff everyway. Suppose that
it's a viral thing. Everyone's doing it. We weren't ready
for it and got covered on popcorn, and so did

(15:21):
the sit Luks movie theater. Just let people know as
soon as they've seen the zombie and chicken scene, get
ready for kids to throw things in the movie theater.
That never happened in South and the kids went two
different versions independently they didn't say that, So I'll find
out about that anyway. Get in touch by name's Marcus

(15:41):
Welcome oh eight hundred and eighty ten. He did a
version of the Chase strong calls for Guy Williams to host. Well,
we'll put that at the top of the list. It'd
be good, be very good. Oh. And the other topic
here we go the more serious topic for night as

(16:02):
we are on the third day of the daylight saving stretch,
and it's something we haven't talked about, although probably it's
something that we can talk about. It's slightly serious, but
I think probably the people on the show who listen
to the show will be more affected than most. And

(16:25):
then a situation of well, it's prompted by this article
right that says social media negatively impact sleep. But now
they're saying you don't. It's not that you just shouldn't

(16:45):
be on social media before you go to sleep. They
are saying that even if you're on social media beforehand,
the stress and the way it will affect your well
being will affect your sleep. So not only should you

(17:07):
not be on it before you go to sleep, you
probably shouldn't be on it at all. So if you're
doom scrolling that's not good, or you're comparing yourself for others,
or you're habitually checking, or you've got fomail you think
you're going to miss out on something because you're seeing
it on social media. So anyway, I wouldn't mind actually
exploring tonight what your secrets or what the things you

(17:28):
do for a decent night's sleep are. I mean, I
think my ones are quite straightforward, and they would be
I'll tell you about those later on actually, but yeah,
it's quite important thing, and I think people these days
will go on about sleep more and more so, particularly
if you're a night work or something like that. I'd
be curious to know your thoughts around this for sleep.
What are the things that you do that are the

(17:52):
surefire thing to make you get a good night's seat?
Who was I talking to the other day or they're
emailing me. They're probably emailing. I'm just trying to think
who it was. They said, then you need to put
your legs under three pillows on top of three pillows.
Three pillows under your legs. Don't know what that does.

(18:12):
It must send the blood to your brain or something.
But if anyone's got any hacks for a great night's sleep.
I'm sure there are people out there will put our
audience to sleep not necessarily a bad thing. So we've
got something to say about that. Would love to hear
from you. That and the chase, oh eight hundred eighty
ten eighty and you'll never fail ways to get some sleep.

(18:43):
Please not go Williams. I'd rather than to Simon Barnett
as the questionnaire or the woman who hosted New Zealand's
The Weakest Link. I think she was on their Housewives
Auckland too. I'll tell you what her name was in
a sec I'll go through the alphabet. Get in touch
by name's Marcus welcome, Oh eight hundred eighty ten eighty
and nine nine two text you want to come through

(19:05):
headle twelve. Now her name was. She used to work
for TV three Louise Wallace and she was that's right,
she was on the Real Housewives of Auckland with a
very short series that that happened. I think you got
all sorts of trouble at the end, didn't it anyway?

(19:27):
Jane AT's Marcus welcome?

Speaker 8 (19:30):
Oh, thank you Marcus. I think it's great amusing your
conversation for this evening. But anyway, what I do is
and I listened to who is ever On? And that
makes me go off to sleep, and I listen to
everything all night long.

Speaker 5 (19:48):
Wow.

Speaker 3 (19:49):
What time do you go to bed? Jane?

Speaker 9 (19:52):
Well?

Speaker 8 (19:52):
Anytime that sleeps me. But at the moment I was
heading for bed.

Speaker 3 (19:55):
Now, Wow, are you are you elderly?

Speaker 8 (19:59):
No?

Speaker 3 (20:01):
Well are you are you under fifty?

Speaker 9 (20:06):
No?

Speaker 8 (20:06):
I'm sixty three?

Speaker 3 (20:07):
Okay, okay, everage age? Okay. So here's the thing, Jane, Jane, Jane.
So you've got to be listening to z B right, yep.
If you go to I reckon. If you're going to
be listening to the radio, what will happen is some
of the conversations will become the subtext of your dreams,
and it's not good. Do you put your phone on
a sleep thing so it turns itself off?

Speaker 8 (20:30):
No, I'm listening to it, just that. No, No, it's
not my phone.

Speaker 3 (20:34):
I'm in your radio. Do you have your radio with
a sleep thing? So it goes off in the middle
of the nineteen not listening to it?

Speaker 8 (20:40):
If I feel like turning it off, I turn it
off because sometimes it becomes rubbish, So I don't listen.
But I go to sleep, and it'll be going.

Speaker 10 (20:49):
I listen.

Speaker 8 (20:50):
It's quite interesting, and then I listen and then I'll
fall off to sleep and then I'll turn it off.
But when I wake up or whatever, so I turn
it on and awful night long.

Speaker 3 (21:03):
So you turn off and on all night because this
sounds like a terrible night's sleep.

Speaker 8 (21:10):
Oh I don't anyway, that's just me.

Speaker 3 (21:14):
No, that's good. Okay, off to bed. You said that
you're driving rather than going to bed.

Speaker 8 (21:18):
No, I'm going to bed and I'm listening to your
talkback show. But not everything is always to my liking.

Speaker 3 (21:27):
No nor mine.

Speaker 8 (21:29):
I'll just turn it off, you know what I mean?

Speaker 3 (21:31):
Okay, brilliantly old z Bqure Jane Jane. Think you that
someone said, what's five fox fly and fly out five
foe free five fo Marcus. I listened to Marcus lash
nights to get to sleep never fails and then a grimace,
a grimmace, bloody emoji. I check on step sleep hypnosis

(21:53):
on Spotify. Have had the best sleeper mid thirties? Could
you tell us what it sounds like deep sleep hypnosis?
I'd probably got to imagine things and I can't beause
I've got one of those minds, which is what a
Spotify is that three lines deep sleep hypnosis. Hecks to

(22:18):
get to sleep people, That's what we're right about tonight.
What about the radio? If you go to bed to
the radio, how do you stop getting weird dreams? Deep
sleep hypnosis, deep sleep hypnosis. I'm trying to work at

(22:53):
what it is. Oh, it's like that new age music.
It's like, you know, where would you hear music like that?

Speaker 11 (23:06):
It like a.

Speaker 3 (23:09):
Message therapy room. I think that's what they sound like.
Ways to get to sleep in these troubling times. If
you are if you have managed to cure insomnia, how
do you do it now? I can't get rid of it?
Way I sleep with the lights off and the curtain closed,

(23:32):
rain on a tin roof, spotlight Spotify playlist for ten
hours ki we Fruit before Beard loving that. What does
kiw fruit do? I fall asleep listening to z being
Just like the last woman said, if it starts to
get rubbish talk off your what's rubbish talk? By the way,

(23:55):
be curious if you if you're using the radio to
go to sleep, surely the first the worst thing would
be it gets too interesting when you want the rubbish
to Oh goodness, say you wanted to be kind of boring,
wouldn't you? I check on deep sleep hypnosis on Spotify.

(24:16):
Had the best sleep. I'm in my mid thirties. Marcus,
have my feet and a foot bath with up some
salts for my sleep. They say to relax mindfully from
the bottom of the body upward or other way around,
whatever suit's best. Mindfully relaxes the key six or seven
push ups and some burpies just before bed, so keys

(24:39):
to sleep. People will find this interesting. People. What I
think is no food three hours before you go to
bed and no social media three hours before you go
to bed. Why I'm saying three hours I don't know,
but that's my advice to you. I've got more. What

(25:06):
are the other things you'll have some get in touch
Marcus till twelve key we fruit increases melatonin production. HI
marks those to you before I go to bed. That's
when I go to bed. I set the radio to
turn off after two hours. Gosh, that's a long run up.
I'll be sound asleep by then, although sometimes I wake

(25:28):
up and you talk about something interesting, which makes it
hard to switch off and go back to sleep. Gilly
By the way, if you listen to that Auckland community notice,
I am as and the dark as you are about it.
I don't know what a hat walk is. It must
be some sort of international thing that you wear a
hat and new walk. I've got no idea what it is.
I keep hearing that community something.

Speaker 12 (25:50):
What is that?

Speaker 3 (25:52):
I don't know if I hate it or love it?
A hat walk? Oh wait, one hundred and eighty ten
eighty one, Ms Marcus, welcome sleep. The very serious topic
of sleep. And you might have one of those sleep trekkers.
And how does that work out? All your people good
or bad? By the way, I should tell you about this.

(26:15):
There is a boil water notice, isn't there always? Graymouth
residents have been told to boil their water because it
could be contaminated. Possible contamination will identify during routine water sampling.
Please boil or drinking water, drinking, cooking food or baby

(26:40):
formla and brushing teeth. Graymouth, Copped and Blaketown, Body Town, Carouro,
South Beach, part of Kayata, Dobson, Taylorville, still Water, Ironic Runanga, Dnulli,
Cold Creek and Arapahoy doesn't say what's in the water

(27:02):
couldn't make ice in hospo either. You go all about
sleep people?

Speaker 13 (27:07):
What have you got?

Speaker 3 (27:08):
My name is Marcus Welcome. It's the Discussion for tonight.
I've been putting that one off, Marcus. I listen to
you guys all the time too. For Slash seven. I
fall asleep listening to you. It's on volume three all
night where and usually sleep most of the time. Have

(27:28):
a great day or a great night, Georgia. It's Marcus Welcome.
Good evening, Hi, Marcus.

Speaker 14 (27:38):
I just thought I would share that me and my
partner we listen to you while we fall asleep most
nights too. We love love your show, and Monday to
Fridays is the night that we enjoy tuning on talk back.

Speaker 3 (27:53):
How do you turn it off?

Speaker 14 (27:55):
So we put it on a sleep timer. So we've
just got an old radio and we can set it
for ninety minutes and then during the night, if we
wake up and we can't get back to sleep, we'll
just chuck it on again.

Speaker 3 (28:08):
Okay, because a lot of people don't know that, because
actually I did find out even on your iPhone, there
is something that you've got you can put it on
sleep and then you can actually turn off everything all
apps when that ninety And that works quite well with
your phone as well.

Speaker 14 (28:22):
Yeah, we haven't really tried it on the phone.

Speaker 15 (28:24):
We just liked the radio.

Speaker 3 (28:26):
It sounds good. You've got the old clock radio. I
mean they're a classic, aren't they.

Speaker 14 (28:31):
Well, that's actually how I started listening to the talkback
when I was about eight years old. I'm twenty seven hour.
My nana and green Dad used to give me a
little pocket radio that you would put beside your bed.
And yeah, I grew up listening to talk back and
falling to sleep back then.

Speaker 3 (28:46):
So it's just that, Yeah, that's young to get hooked
on that. To seven or eight, No child should be
listening to that. Wow, and you've turned out all right?

Speaker 9 (28:58):
Oh I feel like I have.

Speaker 14 (29:01):
Yeah, No, it's awesome. People do give me a little
bit of crap for listening to the talk back at
this age. It provides some entertainment.

Speaker 3 (29:08):
Exactly, you stand strong, George. Aren't nice to hear from
you and give a crap? Eighteen to nine, Mark's have
a cup of real milk, heat it up with a
hot chocolate before I go to bed. Wow would that be?
Would that work with oat milk? There we are good.
Six before sleep is the best sleeping bill anyone can have.
Who's texted that? We'll see what else they text? I

(29:31):
support the protests?

Speaker 5 (29:32):
Of course they have.

Speaker 13 (29:37):
Flop.

Speaker 3 (29:40):
Wow, this is the first text? Was I support the protest?
The next text twenty first March twenty twenty five. Lol,
you can't beat a root, Marcus, Cry with humor, Cry
with humor. Wow, brilliant. Anyway, get in touched. My name

(30:03):
is Marcus. Welcome HDDLE twelve oh eight hundred and eighty
ten sleep and hacks for sleep Because there's a lot
of misinformation. What about a Kiwi fruit. I have the
iHeart app and it has a sleep time and you
can set chairs. Brilliant Marcus. I guess you and I
won't be counting sheep. That's right, Marcus. This is a

(30:28):
cure for all difficults right to sleeping. But it's worked
for me in the last ten years. Melatonin can be
used to get to sleep and help you stay asleep.
What about the person does six or seven push ups
and some burpies. What about you're in a hostel. If

(30:48):
it's rubbish, off you go. People are so topic judging
Orf's rubbish could someone tell me what's a rubbish topic?
Like what would be the rubbish? What one would be
like compulsory third party insurance or fluoridation of water? Is
that what you talk about? Or like flat earth? Being
Marcus welcome.

Speaker 16 (31:10):
He Marcus, your last call. It it's back a bit
of a nerve, man, I am I crack up with
things now, you know, like and and yeah, I'm contradicting
myself ringing topic. You know it's because these these are
the things that Nana and granted did you know? And

(31:34):
topic radios and old old people's thing and here I
am now forty five. Well I'm talking to you. My
music takes a change too, you know, like I've just
things are chilled here and that's what's funny?

Speaker 3 (31:48):
What's funny? What's your music taste being?

Speaker 16 (31:52):
Man, I've gone from corn and Biggie to L Green
and CPR.

Speaker 13 (32:02):
You know, like.

Speaker 16 (32:04):
It's just funny. Men, it's funny. Yeah, you get in.
But it was always his talk radio was always as
a kid, you know, said funny is Ben And here
I am ringing you ringing talking now now they ring

(32:27):
the show. Yeah, I ring the show.

Speaker 3 (32:29):
I've just rang the show terrible being what ctr.

Speaker 16 (32:35):
Cretains.

Speaker 3 (32:38):
I thought you said I thought you said c t R.
I thought that's something I didn't know. It must be
some happy hoppy it's I thought was clicked through rate.
But you know, I don't know about credence L bring
Creedans go do on speaker.

Speaker 16 (32:53):
But I turned my radio down.

Speaker 3 (32:56):
How do you get to sleep?

Speaker 17 (32:57):
Ben?

Speaker 16 (32:59):
Hey?

Speaker 3 (32:59):
How do you get to sleep?

Speaker 16 (33:02):
Well, it's a funny one.

Speaker 13 (33:05):
I do the I do. This is the.

Speaker 16 (33:10):
This is it's called it's the old Maori flute.

Speaker 18 (33:19):
They called caol world woe and all that sort of stuff.

Speaker 16 (33:21):
That's the wind instruments. There's there's a few followers doing
it now and they're getting making that the bones and
shells and wood and all sorts of things, and it resonates.
It's good to see with that.

Speaker 3 (33:35):
Hang on TV, Hang on, Ben, So have you got
have you got an app that's got that music on?
And you've got tapes of it?

Speaker 13 (33:44):
No?

Speaker 7 (33:45):
What?

Speaker 13 (33:46):
Yeah?

Speaker 3 (33:46):
When when you listen to the float, the Maldi float,
have you got records of it? Or how are you
listening to it?

Speaker 11 (33:54):
Oh?

Speaker 19 (33:55):
Yeah?

Speaker 16 (33:55):
Just on the social media is of the YouTube of
the two tubes.

Speaker 9 (33:59):
Of the.

Speaker 3 (34:00):
It's the flute it's not the bit of what they
spin around, the not that one.

Speaker 18 (34:06):
There that they're in some of the loved and there's
all these instruments that I just find it any in
in water, you know, the ocean crashing and their waves
and things are just nature and that's argued to sleep.

Speaker 16 (34:22):
But yeah, good, a bit of the hidie box, but
it's on mute and that seems to do me. I
also got my dog. I love my I've got my dogs,
you know. But I'm down to too now.

Speaker 3 (34:37):
Sounds that used to have more than two.

Speaker 16 (34:40):
Yeah, yeah, but y's to go.

Speaker 3 (34:45):
Nice to hear from you, Ben, lovely to meet your phone,
meet too, did touch hitll twelve cymon, Good evening, it's
Marcus welcome.

Speaker 11 (34:54):
Yeah, my goodness, A lot of isn't it. I just
you just wipe me up. But however, or hygienics, that's
how I get to sleep, and that's how I will
also work myself up. So auto GenX is a technique
that you can use and it's absolutely fabulous. I don't

(35:16):
know if you've ever heard of it. Never you or
her GenX.

Speaker 20 (35:22):
Look it up, type your thing, you tell me about it.

Speaker 11 (35:26):
Okay, So what you do is you take yourself from
twenty percent down to negative twenty percent, and then you
talk to your left arm, right arm, and it just
it's just enthusiastic. But however, what it does is it
just makes you just relax and it makes you reacts.
It also makes you re acts some business as well.

Speaker 3 (35:46):
What do you mean you take yourself for? Tell me
a bit more about that, because it wasn't clear.

Speaker 11 (35:52):
Okay, So you go from twenty and you go negive
nineteen negative eighteen. You sat in your head, you say
it to yourself, or you can sat into a group,
which I did with my company, and then you can
do it too. Ways. You can use it to you know,
just calm yourself, or you can use it to try

(36:13):
and put yourself to sleep also auto.

Speaker 3 (36:17):
So you start at twenty and you count down to
negative twenty twenty nineteen eighteen seventeen minus two minus three,
minus four minus five. Yeah, and then what do you do?

Speaker 12 (36:27):
Relax part to your body and then you say you
calm my left, there's negative my left he's had three
times and my right.

Speaker 3 (36:38):
Do you tip your do you tip your your brower
of your eye? You're just your head Because tappings all
the rage of while back tap tap tap, Yeah.

Speaker 11 (36:48):
There's both happening. You sure, No, no, there's no tapping. No,
it's just my left dumb is negative. My left is negative.
Then you go and then you get my my nick
and shoulders negative and either with my dad. I do
it with my company. And everyone loved it. But you
can use it for you know, going to sleep, or

(37:11):
you can use it to give yourself a little bit
of a high in the morning as well. Who go?

Speaker 3 (37:15):
Who got you onto it?

Speaker 11 (37:18):
Genny Oakly?

Speaker 3 (37:21):
Is it like a YouTube video?

Speaker 21 (37:24):
No?

Speaker 9 (37:24):
No, no, no, no.

Speaker 11 (37:25):
She was based in christ so she flew up to
I saw her and and I wrote it. This is
years ago.

Speaker 3 (37:37):
Is she like a business consultant?

Speaker 11 (37:39):
Yeah, I suppose, but I think she does. Took quite
a few businesses, you know. She No, she was very good.
She's very professional. But it worked. It worked for a
multitude of my crew because everyone's different, you know, when
you have a company, everyone's different than everyone believes or
doesn't believe. And I said it's gonna go. Everyone loved it. Autogenics.

Speaker 3 (38:03):
Wow, how long has it been around?

Speaker 19 (38:06):
Look?

Speaker 11 (38:07):
Look I couldn't I don't know. I say twenty three years.

Speaker 20 (38:13):
Wow, it was but it was brilliant.

Speaker 11 (38:15):
No, and it was brilliant and I use it. I
still use it now to go to sleep. I used
to use it to get up in the morning. You
know so, But no know it was lovely and actually works.

Speaker 3 (38:29):
No, I appreciate your passion for it, Simon. Thank you. Autogenics.
We live and we learn the person that's most triggered
by bad topics. The topic was about whether you should
use your phone and portrait or landscape. Wow, I say
have a phone just sleeping pills from the dock. That's

(38:53):
what someone says. This is the sleep special love saved
this for the middle of daylight, saving back into it.
And people struggling with sleep, their sleep patterns are disruptive.
If you have struggled with sleep, what solved it? What's
your fact? Share it?

Speaker 4 (39:10):
What did you do with that?

Speaker 22 (39:11):
The whoa?

Speaker 3 (39:14):
Is it jumping jacks? Is it kiwi fruit?

Speaker 20 (39:22):
Is it?

Speaker 7 (39:22):
Is it? Is it?

Speaker 13 (39:24):
Is it?

Speaker 3 (39:27):
Melantonin? Is it special noise on your iPhone?

Speaker 20 (39:36):
What is it?

Speaker 3 (39:38):
And how do you discover it? Is it meditation? Is
it putting three pillows under your legs? Well that was
I don't know how that works. I'm into that. Mind
you I mean, these days, everyone's got so many pillows,
haven't they. I think we're in a pillow. I think
we're in peak pillow. Sometimes you got someone says about

(40:00):
twelve of them, aren't they? Well, here, we got a
lot of pillows. I stayed somewhere once and there was
a pillow menu. Yeah, I'm not kidding you. I forget
which one I went with, like a K pock buckwheat mix.
I think it might have been brilliant, best night sleep

(40:22):
in my mind that we had a cluster puff. Also,
that's what we right about to fullball. We light me up.
What do you got the keys to a good night's sleep?
If there's just one thing this will help people. It
will help people tremendously, the gift of a good night's sleep.
What about those apps and those things, those rings you wear,
and those things that tell you how long you've slept?

(40:42):
For Marcus, you were thinking of the dreaded burpies. That's
a terrible thing. They should be banned. Could we do that?
Who will?

Speaker 23 (40:57):
I vote for?

Speaker 3 (40:59):
Marcus? A sleeping pill from the doctor plus six bears
perfect night's sleep Marcus exercised before bed knocks me out.
Another one with sleeping pills from the dock. Marcus, I've
had a magic warndon what you wish? Would you wish
to help out regional Usina. I'm a millennial who grew

(41:21):
up on the East Coast. Now I live in an
Auckland for the better opportunities. I envy the days that
wool was gold goodness. Not only if we get a
wool craver. I think everyone quite likes their nylon carpet, now,
don't they. Robust On, Rodney, robust, Come on the old sleep,
particularly if you're a shift worker. You're coming home at

(41:42):
twelve in the morning. What do you do, Marcus? It's
listening to talk back and telling Alexa to turn off
in two hours. Breathe out through your fingers. All these
are goal come on, oh wait, tenhudred eighty, ten eighty
the best solutions for good night's sleep. I reckon that

(42:04):
you want to be off your phone, though you don't
take your phone to be I mean that's the old
golden No. No, I reckon you don't eat three hours
before you go to bed, and no coffee after twelve.
You gotta be careful because I could sound like I
am some sort of sleep fundamentalist. I'd like to become

(42:24):
a sleep coach. Not really, Actually, I don't really want
to be a sleep coach. I don't know why I
said that, but I think it's an interesting field of discovery. Yeah,
your secrets to sleep, particularly if you do something like
countdown or visualize something. Well, I can't visualize because I

(42:44):
shut my eyes. There's nothing there. But there might be
something that you do that you can. There's some games
you can play with your mind, you think back or
your cat.

Speaker 9 (42:56):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (42:57):
I quite that guy counting from twenty down to negative twenty.
That might work. So you've got anything to say, I'd
love to hear from your man name as Marcus Welcome.
Keep those emails and texts coming through. I'll keep your
day with news around the world and around the country
when I can. We are celebrating the twentieth anniversary of
King Charles and Queen Kimily getting married. Got zero recollection

(43:20):
of that. I don't even know they were married, but jumpin'.
My name is Marcus Welcome Hittle twelve. Sleep and your
secrets to sleep be every generous thing to share about
because others it's could be life changing for people. What
do they called got not narcolepsy? What is it when

(43:42):
you can't in somnia? And somnia reminds me of a
song doesn't get in touch Hittle twelve. Listen to sleep
hypnosis on YouTube E for free, Catherine, what's E for three? YouTube?
What's YouTube e? Someone sent through a three word cure cannabis, cannabis, cannabis,

(44:06):
Sleep like a baby, wake up, feeling great?

Speaker 13 (44:09):
Wow?

Speaker 3 (44:12):
Should we be advocating that what it ask? Whatever works?
Here we go boom, sleep, sleep, sleep. I'm putting my
audience to sleep. And I by talking about this because
the insomniacs are probably one of the stock in trade
for talkback evening, talkback, Well, Cheryl, it's Marcus, welcome in,

(44:34):
good evening.

Speaker 7 (44:36):
Hi, how are you good?

Speaker 3 (44:37):
Cheryl? God your minute? You on your phone line? You've
got a very clear phone line. Gorgeous, Oh cool, thank you.

Speaker 24 (44:46):
Now, rem it is to get to sleep. You start
counting at sixty six. You count back very very slow,
so like sixty six, sixty five, sixty four. Now, because
you are tired, you have to concentrate very hard. Now
you will forget where you get up two. So you

(45:07):
go back to sixty six and start again.

Speaker 9 (45:10):
Wow.

Speaker 24 (45:10):
I guarantee you you will never get to zero.

Speaker 3 (45:13):
This is memory, Cheryl. This is a gift from you
because I'm loving this. I almost felt fell asleep when
you got to sixty three. I felt myself nodding off.
You go to six, I think sixty five, sixty four,
sixty sixty five, six, sixty five.

Speaker 5 (45:33):
Sixty four.

Speaker 24 (45:34):
So from memory, I think I've probably got down to
about forty odd.

Speaker 3 (45:38):
Wow, you must be quick at getting to sleep.

Speaker 4 (45:39):
Now.

Speaker 3 (45:40):
Who taught you this, Cyril?

Speaker 24 (45:42):
I heard it on the radio years ago, and it
always works.

Speaker 3 (45:46):
And you always start with sixty six or is at
your age?

Speaker 24 (45:50):
No, start with sixty six?

Speaker 7 (45:53):
Yeah.

Speaker 24 (45:54):
Another, I've got another remedy. You've won lotter You've won
ten million dollars. How are you going to spend it?
I've never finished spending ten million dollars.

Speaker 3 (46:05):
So you've one ten million to think? How are you
going to spend it?

Speaker 24 (46:09):
Yeah, like you might give family members each amount. You
might want to go on a trip where you're going
to go. Yeah, it's yeah, that's quite a good way
to get to sleep as well.

Speaker 3 (46:20):
And then you invented it yourself, Cheryl.

Speaker 2 (46:22):
Yeah, yeah, love it.

Speaker 3 (46:24):
That's what we want. Cheryl that's fantastic. Here we go
sixty six sixty five. So if you're at home, set
your alarm for an hour and then try that and
if it doesn't work. If it works, give me a call.
You've got any techniques?

Speaker 25 (46:40):
Jen?

Speaker 3 (46:43):
Hello, Hi, Janets Marcus, have you got getting to sleep techniques?

Speaker 6 (46:47):
Yes?

Speaker 19 (46:48):
I have my kids snoring? Do you want to hear
them snore them?

Speaker 3 (46:51):
Yes? I love that.

Speaker 19 (46:52):
You'll put people to sleep.

Speaker 20 (46:54):
Inger stopped doing it now always.

Speaker 3 (47:04):
What's the cat's name?

Speaker 19 (47:06):
Smokey? Yeah, he's curled up in my arms?

Speaker 9 (47:10):
Heard nothing killed up in I heard?

Speaker 3 (47:13):
I heard nothing from Smoky.

Speaker 26 (47:15):
No.

Speaker 19 (47:15):
I did it after I took the phone away the thing.
He's probably shy anyway. Three things. But first of all,
bat men talked about roots, routing or roots, which is
what kind of root is that gin thing? Or what

(47:36):
does he do with it? Boil it?

Speaker 3 (47:38):
Or do you want what I see what you're doing there?

Speaker 13 (47:40):
Jane?

Speaker 3 (47:41):
You yeah, I quite like what you're doing there. Look
I'll see the text. I can't be a gin sing route,
I would think Jim at well done. Anyway, Now, what
are your three techniques forget to sleep?

Speaker 19 (47:59):
I had to laugh when you said your number you
said double o, double o one eighty to laugh.

Speaker 3 (48:07):
About you're going to mix it up these days for
the millennials. I like things different these days.

Speaker 19 (48:13):
Anyway. Now, of course, virgilization sleep tea. I couldn't sleep
without it, and I have it about half an hour
before going to bed, and I just have.

Speaker 10 (48:29):
You had it?

Speaker 3 (48:31):
Yeah, you've already had it.

Speaker 19 (48:33):
Yeah.

Speaker 13 (48:34):
What is it like? A mile.

Speaker 19 (48:37):
Well, a passion flower, chema, mile valerium.

Speaker 3 (48:42):
Okay, so you're sleepy time tea, yes, yes.

Speaker 19 (48:48):
And lots of calcium because if you can't sleep, it
means you're deficient and calcium. And that's a coffee. That's
the proper coffee blocks the absorption of calcium and the
other thing. It's constipatient. Yes, if you're constipated, you won't sleep.

(49:11):
So you've got to have your keywheap fruit, have a
clean out and bobs your uncle Jen.

Speaker 3 (49:18):
Don't be surprised if the radio people called you to
do a radio show, because you're very good at this.
You've got like some extremely good advice. Are you a
trained herbalist or something?

Speaker 19 (49:30):
Yeah, clearly and a nurse and all sorts of thing.

Speaker 3 (49:35):
Well, you could do you sleep show tonight it's jan
with the sleep show. Good evening, Steve. Yeah, well brilliant.
I can let your three things. That's brilliant. Thank you.
Eighteen past nine. Stay in touch. It's all about sleep.
It's going better than I thought. And now I'm going
to start that. Just got to zero, Just got to zero,

(49:59):
cutting down from sixty six. Get onto lass I you've
won ten million. Think what you'll do with it? A
cup of warm alm and milk, which is two dessert
spoons of flaky Brewers you stirred into Karen with a y. Marcus,
I leave the radio on all night. Talkback is not boring,
but it drains my thoughts. Gummies marijuana. Gummies worked for

(50:24):
sleep and pain relief. It should be easy to get,
not illegal. My GP told me to get out of
bed and take a couple of paracetamol. Oh, he's in
the back pocket, a big farmer. Cheepers, creepers. What's that about.

Speaker 13 (50:39):
See?

Speaker 3 (50:40):
No one's making money out of the sixty six cure,
are they? That's the trouble. Can't monetize that. Good evening,
Vanessa ats Marcus.

Speaker 13 (50:48):
Welcome, good evening.

Speaker 25 (50:52):
So Yeah, struggled with pretty bad insomnia last year and
recently have switched all Wi Fi off at night time
and removed any form of electricity from my bedroom.

Speaker 19 (51:10):
So I used to have the fan, I.

Speaker 25 (51:12):
Used to have guided sleep meditations. I've had every type
of sleep, drop, sleep tablets and phenomenal. So just in
the last couple of weeks, my sleep's probably now from
ten pm to about four am. Wow, so that's pretty

(51:33):
good compared to where I was city ego removing all Yeah,
so when technology.

Speaker 3 (51:39):
Okay, so not having it on, so just your rumor
is just really silent.

Speaker 25 (51:44):
Yeah, absolutely nothing. And I used to have myself completely
convinced that I needed to be listening to a guided
sleep meditation or something, listening to the sound of rain
or white noise or and it's just another story that
we tell ourselves. And it's actually just removing that all.

Speaker 3 (52:07):
Do you stay off your phone before you go to bed?

Speaker 27 (52:10):
I try to.

Speaker 25 (52:12):
Yeah, they say at least an hour prior to turn
off any form of technology. That that's that's a little
bit tricky.

Speaker 3 (52:21):
It's hard for me because I'm stuck at work. Yes,
and you know, well some nights it feels like a
guided meditation. Yeah, okay, so now you're just tental four
and you're good.

Speaker 25 (52:35):
Yeah, fantastic, fantastic, and.

Speaker 3 (52:39):
You get you cope with, you cope with six hours
or you have a bit more later on.

Speaker 25 (52:43):
Well, it's a lot better than about two or three.

Speaker 13 (52:47):
For how long?

Speaker 3 (52:47):
For how long were on that for? That sounds horrendous?

Speaker 25 (52:52):
Yeah, it was for a good fourteen months.

Speaker 3 (52:56):
Gee, okay, pleased about that? Vanessa, thank you so much
for that. Wow? Could they hear from a Vanessa? Mon deep?
It's Marcus.

Speaker 17 (53:03):
Welcome Marcus, thank you for taking my bone.

Speaker 13 (53:12):
Thank you.

Speaker 26 (53:13):
Only advice which I can give on sleep is I
have tested it myself and I have suggested to many
of my friends as well, and the feedback has been
very positive. And that is, keep breathing. If you take
ten deep beds, guarantee that you will fall sleep on

(53:36):
the same.

Speaker 11 (53:37):
Fund on the which one on the tenth breath.

Speaker 26 (53:42):
You know, if you're taking deep enough, you will be
asleep by.

Speaker 3 (53:46):
That through the nose or through the mouth, through the
nose and.

Speaker 26 (53:52):
Then a sailing through the mouse and haaling through the nose,
and you do that, and yeah, you will fall sleep
very very quickly.

Speaker 3 (54:09):
Could you have trouble sleeping before you started that?

Speaker 11 (54:13):
Yes?

Speaker 26 (54:13):
I did, I used to do shift work and that
had really interrupted my sleeping patterns.

Speaker 21 (54:23):
So I so.

Speaker 26 (54:26):
Shift work didn't have any effect on me. No matter
what shift I had done, I would use the breathing
and it helped me.

Speaker 17 (54:34):
But now I gont through the shift work.

Speaker 22 (54:37):
It's been ages.

Speaker 26 (54:38):
But if for whatever reason, if I am sleep less,
then I just breakfast the same what I have tried
in past.

Speaker 3 (54:48):
Love you to hear from your man die pretty appreciate,
Stiffany Marcus, Welcome, good evening. Thanks for hanging on this
s Tiffany.

Speaker 10 (54:53):
Yeah, that's okay. I just fitting off fund to get
the sleeper to shut the eyes. That seriously a trying one.
Wind down and watch a little bit of YouTube or
something and then growling the bed and chump the eyes.

Speaker 3 (55:13):
And I'm gone, Yeah, you must never because I think
for a lot of people YouTube would be bad before
they go to bed, because it would be kind of
they talk about the different sorts of lights and stuff.
But yeah, but if it works for you, eh, yep, yep, yeah,
watch a.

Speaker 10 (55:30):
Little bit maybe happen here, and then just growling the
bed and don't gone see you.

Speaker 3 (55:37):
Nice to hear from its Stephanie, Thanks for that keep
it going. It's all about getting to sleep. Stephen Marcus, welcome.

Speaker 28 (55:46):
Good evening, markets Market. You've changed the subject. Sure's tonight
is the anniversary of the White Heini leaving Littleton and
kep sizing tomorrow in Wells and Harbor.

Speaker 20 (56:04):
Okay, Now I was alongside what.

Speaker 28 (56:09):
Henny on the Thursday night and it left the Ulton
really yeah, my dad was a boaken on it for
twenty eight years. That morning he came off He used
to work on quite not off. He actually come off
off it that the morning before it sailed back to

(56:29):
Orlington that night.

Speaker 13 (56:31):
Wow.

Speaker 28 (56:33):
Yeah, it was eleven days before my twenty first birthday.

Speaker 11 (56:37):
And while I was on the wharf.

Speaker 28 (56:39):
That night, is that my dad had ordered a sack
of oysters from Bluff and that come up on the
overnight on the train that left in the cover and
arrived in Ulton about twenty five days.

Speaker 11 (56:52):
In the evening.

Speaker 3 (56:56):
And was he taking them on the shop?

Speaker 11 (57:00):
No, they were.

Speaker 28 (57:02):
The train had to leave in the pago at about
two o'clock in the afternoon and went right to the
whar for Middleton. Yes, and these Sacondis was on the train.
A friend of mine was the engine driver on the
train and they used to pull into Riddle from just
before the fears sailed the passengers from up the south

(57:25):
of island. Sure, and I was alongside. It's that that
evening never sailed out of children.

Speaker 3 (57:34):
What does a boatain do.

Speaker 11 (57:37):
The boat and what has.

Speaker 28 (57:39):
Got main drivers is getting the orders from the captain
and then delivering them to the crew.

Speaker 3 (57:48):
Does that make sense?

Speaker 13 (57:50):
Yep.

Speaker 28 (57:52):
He was virtually your third in charge.

Speaker 3 (57:55):
And he lost good friends in the way he need disaster?

Speaker 9 (57:59):
Did I ever?

Speaker 28 (58:00):
Yes?

Speaker 3 (58:01):
Did your father?

Speaker 11 (58:03):
No?

Speaker 13 (58:03):
No?

Speaker 9 (58:03):
No, no, not my dad, my dad.

Speaker 13 (58:06):
I'm off.

Speaker 3 (58:07):
Yeah, I'm saying did he lose good friends?

Speaker 13 (58:10):
Yes?

Speaker 28 (58:10):
I did three wars and I went to primary school
with and we started college together. They lost their lives tonight.

Speaker 7 (58:20):
On the way he needs.

Speaker 29 (58:23):
Wow.

Speaker 3 (58:24):
Okay, I appreciate you coming through, Stephen, Thanks so much
for that. Yes, I think last year we had a
fitty big session on that too, more so on the night,
not on the eve of it. But look, I appreciate
you coming through. I wasn't aware that that was tomorrow.
But that's good stuff. Good and tell thank you sleep
and what to do about that? Oh, there's a good
techniques there. I like people. They say you'll never get

(58:44):
to zero. But I don't know about man deep and
van netwell, you know, but yeah, counting back from sixty six, sixty.

Speaker 5 (58:51):
Five, sixty four, sixty three.

Speaker 3 (58:57):
Do you want to talk about this? That's what we're
on about tonight sixty two. Oh, keep the text coming
through also you Chase hosts. Marcus, I've been watching The
Golden Hour around sunset time and a reconscious amount, and
every time I get sleepy and start to wind down
and synk with nature. Also best to remove artificial light,
especially blue light, rich lead bulbs led bobs. Doctor Alexis

(59:19):
Cown on YouTube for in depth details about how to
resduce Cicadian rhythms life changing. Thank me later. Marc's little
cannabis always helps sleep after a quick munch, of course, Marcus,
I watched the Home and Garden channel on TV with
a sound on low. Sometimes it takes twenty minutes, sometimes
an hour, but it always sends me to sleep. Sheepskin
on mattress, buckwheat, hull pillow, teepee over the beard, magnesium

(59:42):
glystate and skullcap pills. Marcus. Try tapping, use it regular
and soon you have to only think about tapping and
you'll be asleep, Lynn Linnen Marcus, I keep my ready
on talkback to keep the missus snoring at bay. Thanks, Harry,
just did ten deep breaths wide awake. It's the same

(01:00:05):
by the count, Marcus. Whatever, I can't sleep, especially when
I wake up at the mid of the night with
something on my mind. I was told a little trick
and this to count backwards from three hundred and groups
of three. Well, I like that. Three hundred two nine
seven four two nine zero two eight seven. I think

(01:00:28):
that's what they take texture test you for dementia? Is
it to count backwards and threes. It's worked every single
time for me, and I don't know how, but I've
never made it to one hundred yet. Marcus, your listens
should buy a bottle of Bickford's pure cherry juice, sip
a cup of resilient hour before bed, sold a New
World and Woolworths works superbly. Margaret Marcus, here is the

(01:00:55):
key to good night's sleep for your list as it
works every time without fail. Take up clay modeling and
combine it with two dreams of Japanese whiskey an hour
before you want to go to sleep. Just don't do
what I did, which was doze off onto the knife. Marcus.
Good shall I swear by rain, wind or ocean sounds asleep?

(01:01:16):
There are some good apps, also a nightcap and half
a sleeping pole. Best sleep, ever, I count back from
a thousand and regularly get to zero. I find if
I visualize the numbers I count, it works better. Oh,
this is really interesting, Lucy. The other one I do
is retrace the walk I did to primary school forty

(01:01:38):
years ago and try to remember all the things I
would look at on the way. This one works well, Lucy, Marcus.
The best way to fall asleep. I let Matthew McConnaughey whispers,
sleep sweet, nothing's in my ear about the cosmos. Then
I slowly spoon my pillow. Wow like it's Ryan Gosling

(01:02:01):
and a cable and it's sweater cheapest. Good evening, Susie,
it's Marcus. Welcome, Hi Marcus.

Speaker 13 (01:02:13):
How are you good?

Speaker 3 (01:02:14):
Susie?

Speaker 4 (01:02:15):
Thank you Marcus.

Speaker 27 (01:02:16):
When at christ Church had that for earthquake, I come home.
I was in a friend's place for tea, and I
come home and I put it onto news talk there
Beat because I knew that they keep the updated and
all the latest news. And ever since I've done that,
I've never turned it off in my room at night.
I go to sleep with that on, and I wouldn't
be without it. It's got to be in the background

(01:02:38):
while I'm sleeping.

Speaker 5 (01:02:40):
Wow.

Speaker 27 (01:02:40):
Yeah, I know I don't hear it when I'm sleeping, Marcus.
But and if I'm at someone's place or on holiday,
I really miss it because I'm in a quiet room.

Speaker 3 (01:02:48):
May I hate it when who's on holiday.

Speaker 27 (01:02:51):
If I ever go to someone's place on holiday and
they haven't got that station and I'm lying in bed,
I hate the silence.

Speaker 3 (01:02:58):
Wouldn't most places have the radio station?

Speaker 9 (01:03:02):
Well?

Speaker 27 (01:03:02):
When I was in Australia, no.

Speaker 3 (01:03:05):
We probably can't get it on.

Speaker 27 (01:03:06):
I had yeah, yeah, but I listened to it at
nighttime before I go to sleep, and if I wake
up during the night, it's always the Atim Beaver a Joeyers,
and I wouldn't be with the out.

Speaker 13 (01:03:18):
Of my sleep.

Speaker 3 (01:03:18):
Now, really, you don't find that well, you don't find
the topics affect your dreams.

Speaker 11 (01:03:24):
They don't.

Speaker 27 (01:03:24):
They don't worry me, Marcaus. Then if I can't sleep,
I come me out of here, make a coffee and
turn it on. Out and the lounge here.

Speaker 3 (01:03:31):
Make a cup of coffee that'll get you back to sleep.

Speaker 11 (01:03:33):
Yeah, not, I came.

Speaker 3 (01:03:36):
You're not nice to hear from you, Susie. A breath
of fresh air. Well, there we go, the old radio cure. Brilliant, brilliant, brilliant, brilliant, brilliant, brilliant, brilliant, brilliant, brilliant, brilliant, brilliant, brilliant.
Who sleep? It's all about to sleep. I don't even

(01:04:02):
know what primary school Lucy went to. You do your
own primary school walk you wouldn't do. Marcus loved the
idea of falling to sleep. I have chronic pain. Usually
I'm so exhausts. I go to sleep around three am
and wake up around seven for work. Marcus best sleep
method is one melon tonin followed by a bottle of

(01:04:24):
mois and Joseph straight after night shift. Works a treat. Marcus.
I have a garden. I think about each tree and
shrub and order around the garden. Get to sleep before
I've got through all of them. Marcus. I have narcolepsy.
Can't stay awake and what I have to eat to

(01:04:45):
stop falling asleep? Within ten minutes of realizing I'm about
to fall asleep. Is carbs eye a slice of bread
or a small packet of potato chips. Within ten minutes,
the carbs convert to glucose lumb back to awake. I
sleep for ten hours, So for others, maybe avoiding too
many carbs in the evening, Arnie Marcus, I too have

(01:05:09):
used books, used talks. They'd be on twenty four seven.
Place behind my headboard, goodness, want to be behind the headboard,
Good evening. Sam.

Speaker 20 (01:05:22):
Welcome Sam, Yeah, hello Marcus, thanks for having me my pleasure, Marcus.
I use these special light bulbs to block out blue light,
and I find that really affective.

Speaker 3 (01:05:38):
Where'd you get them?

Speaker 20 (01:05:40):
I got them on online. Is a New Zealand company.
I won't say the name that.

Speaker 3 (01:05:47):
You can say the name that we don't okay.

Speaker 20 (01:05:50):
I think it's I think it's called blue Light dot
Co okay. And the ones I have are an amber
light and they just let out like a like yeah,
the room just becomes amber and it's really really relaxing.
I recommend people trying.

Speaker 3 (01:06:08):
Sam. The company is called blue Light, but they sell
lights with no blue light. Did I get that right?

Speaker 11 (01:06:14):
Yeah?

Speaker 17 (01:06:15):
I think so.

Speaker 20 (01:06:15):
Was it called blue Light block.

Speaker 3 (01:06:17):
Okay, that makes more sense block blue light or and.

Speaker 20 (01:06:20):
I I've got a few sleeping aids like masks and
a few things like that. But particularly if you if
you get up and go to the loo, you turn
on the light, then you get your The led lights
are kind of nasty lights of white light.

Speaker 3 (01:06:33):
And I was going to ask you, I going to
ask I was going to ask you why you have
your lights on? But if you've got the whole house
in them before you go to bed, is that what
the way it works for you?

Speaker 11 (01:06:43):
Yeah?

Speaker 20 (01:06:45):
I have to do it strategically. My wife doesn't like them,
so I have to kind of place them around the
house where she won't kind of notice or get too
annoyed with them. So lamps by the bed, the bathroom,
and some lamp in the living room.

Speaker 3 (01:07:00):
What does she not like? Because it's a fairly warm,
nice light, isn't it the amber light?

Speaker 20 (01:07:05):
Yeah, well, I just slakes the room quite dark, you know,
if you're reading, it's just it's not as good for reading.
But for me it creates a really nice atmosphere. You
can get a similar light from a big box or
like mut at ten, the same color, but it still
has the blue light in it, whereas these lights take
all the blue light out.

Speaker 3 (01:07:28):
And were you struggling before that?

Speaker 20 (01:07:31):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, I had kind of I've had kind
of a lot of trouble over the years, so I've
a bit of a ritual. I listened to Delta music,
have a magnesium pill and with a mask. Yes, And
it's quite interesting that the Delta music. I can measure
the effectiveness because I read in bed, and since I've

(01:07:52):
had the Delta music, I read hardly any books. I
just don't get through them because I fall asleep. And
if I forget to turn the music on, then I'll
just keep reading, so I can kind of yeah, there's
a way to see the efig.

Speaker 3 (01:08:06):
What is Delta music.

Speaker 20 (01:08:09):
It's it's just a oh, good, good, good question. I
think it's a I think it's the music that's done
to the rhythm of months in deep meditation. Now, someone
could correct me on that.

Speaker 11 (01:08:24):
I think that's so.

Speaker 3 (01:08:25):
Is it on a is a YouTube channel or an app?

Speaker 20 (01:08:28):
Yeah, it's actually I got it on iTunes. I bought
the music. There's a I'm sure if you you google
there will be some some stuff there. And and I
just I just just had twelve songs on the album,
and I just chopped it up into four and made
a playlist, and I listened to it every single night

(01:08:49):
apart from when I forget. And I recognized the start
of the first song, but I couldn't tell you the rest.

Speaker 3 (01:08:55):
I just disappears into what is the music called Delta
Waves or Delta Music.

Speaker 20 (01:09:00):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, Delta Waves.

Speaker 11 (01:09:02):
That's it.

Speaker 3 (01:09:02):
Yeah, that's Delta Waves.

Speaker 20 (01:09:04):
And it's a guy called doctor jeff I think that's
something something, Yeah, I think that's I don't know his
last name, but I think that's it, doctor Jeffrey something.
Someone will correctly, I'm sure.

Speaker 3 (01:09:19):
And where should face mask from? Sam?

Speaker 20 (01:09:23):
I got it from the Auckland Airport, but I could
probably do with an upgrade. It's not a super fancy one,
but it's an okay one. It's the one was kind
of like a ring around your eyes, so the actual
fabric is elevated off your eyes.

Speaker 3 (01:09:39):
Really yeah yeah.

Speaker 20 (01:09:42):
And so if you if you go to the Blue
Light Blocking website, they've got similar masks here and they're
really comfortable. You don't know they're on in the rooms.
It's black.

Speaker 3 (01:09:52):
It's getting curtain, say yeah.

Speaker 20 (01:09:55):
Yeah, yeah, or yeah it does you know, or if
someone gets up and goes to the low or whatever
you're not giving you with visual life.

Speaker 3 (01:10:04):
Blue light, blue blo blue light in z I think
is what the website is that you're talking about.

Speaker 20 (01:10:09):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, sure, they've got they've actually some.

Speaker 30 (01:10:13):
They do have one light in there.

Speaker 20 (01:10:15):
I think that's not actually amber. It's white, but it
removes the blue light if that's your thing. But they
also have red light and little clip things you can
put on the top of a book, like a reading
reading light. I guess you'd call it. That's an amber.

Speaker 3 (01:10:32):
Oh I see. It's got like foam round things, almost
like the things on your earphones that would go over
your ears, but they go over their eyes.

Speaker 20 (01:10:42):
Yeah, exactly that. So I've got I've got one of those,
but I got it at the Auckland Airport. I don't
think it's the same quality as those, but to the
same effect.

Speaker 3 (01:10:52):
You got those glasses with the red lenses.

Speaker 13 (01:10:55):
No, I don't.

Speaker 20 (01:10:56):
I've been considering getting them, but I do. I found
a function on my iPhone that you can actually turn
your screen red at night.

Speaker 4 (01:11:06):
Right.

Speaker 20 (01:11:06):
It has a similar effect, probably not the same, but
a similar effect.

Speaker 3 (01:11:11):
Wow, Oh well you for you here? That's a good
call from you, Sam. I really really appreciate it, very helpful.
Thank you. I'm sure people have loved that fifteen to ten.
He was the mother lowed, wasn't he? More lines will
become available, Ganies. It's Marcus welcome.

Speaker 2 (01:11:24):
Good evening, Oh him, Marcus, good evening. I just wanted
to let you know about my grandmom trek. If we
have a sleep if I had sleepless night back to India,
so she always is to give me the turmeric milk
and just like two three black pepper in that. So

(01:11:46):
that's really helped me to come down my brain. And
so that was actually a good medicine. If somebody has
a like you know, sleeping problem, they're not able to sleep.
Because if I come from overseas, so always has a
jet lag and there is a sleepless night. So always
I take tumory milk along with the black pepper. So

(01:12:10):
that really helps to cool my mind and I can
sleep very well.

Speaker 3 (01:12:14):
So you put like a tea spoon of milk and
turbrick and then you gw a teaspoon of tuberc in
the milk and then you grind some pepper into it.

Speaker 7 (01:12:22):
Is that what you do.

Speaker 2 (01:12:23):
Yeah, just like yeah, because that is a good combination
with the turmeric and black pepper along with the milk.
It's a nighttime only so that body actually it is
cooled down and that also helps to sleep, so that
is a good combination. Also that actually is an eye
wid as well. So it's very simple and very uh.

(01:12:45):
It's like an easy way to sleep for asleep and
a little bit nutmeg.

Speaker 3 (01:12:51):
Okay, brilliant, appreciate that turmeric, black pepper, a little bit
of nutmeg. He should be marketing there. That's got some
great texts coming up, Marcus, thanks for your program. If
I can't get to sleep, I have three hects. Number one,
I set myself to thank God for fifty things in
my life and really get to twenty items from Snoozing

(01:13:13):
number two on Spotify, listen to podcasts The Daily Rosary
with Bruce Downs. Number three, I do one hundred pushups
Ellie Alanga Unu Harbor the Far North. Another person texts,
I just close my eyes and sink into the blackness.
I can fall asleep with most noises from TV on mute,
the radio on lower. The boy races doing donuts around

(01:13:34):
the roundabout and mild earthquakes, even when the neighbor is
having a weekly shouting match with his wife. I've heard
them before, same topics. Money is drinking, her gambling, and
she always wins because it's her house. You think the
gambler would have lost the house, not the drinker. Well,
I can say, never handle when trying to sleep. Are

(01:13:57):
wind chimes. I hate them with a passion. Think of
any topic eg. Fruit and then go through alphabetically, So apple, banana, cherry,
durryan eh, eh, what's the freat beginning with THEE E A,

(01:14:23):
E B E C. What's the fruit beginning with the
featua grape. Well, that's a good game if you can't
think of one for me to just keep going topics
like animals, countries, clothing, vehicles, food, anything at all. I
was taught this by a sleep therapist of the US,

(01:14:44):
and it's really worth trying. It's really I get to
zeno for do I just choose other topic and the
same with that. I always do that with the kids.
They love it. They love a quiz, but they love
that also. It's easy because I get sick of coming
up with quiz questions, and most of my quiz questions

(01:15:04):
about oh, not rivers. They're not river, not rivers. Mainly
they're about rivers. Most of my questions are about it.
That's weird, isn't it. Very few fruits begin with E
apart from the elderberry, so pretty much nothing begins with E. Anyway,

(01:15:29):
how are you going out there and listened?

Speaker 9 (01:15:30):
Land?

Speaker 3 (01:15:30):
Had enough? Had a guts full head on midnight? One
of them is because you want to talk, I'll take
one text quickly before one call, quickly before the news. Marcus.
I'm astounded how many callers of its alcohol and sleeping
tablets so dangerous, especially if you're in the older group. Ex.

(01:15:50):
Pharmacist here, Marcus. The problem we have now is that
you have too many remedies. You will lie awake trying
to work out the best one. Hi, Marcus had to
make go to sleep with a vacuum clean and they're
going leaving it on all night. Yeah, I think that's
a bit common. I think a lot of kids like

(01:16:11):
the vacuum cleaner sound. Hi, Marcus have a sunrise clock
which is lots of white noise options. I love the
fireplace crackle that I put on the first thirty minutes
and I'm out if I waken the middle night. I
just reset it.

Speaker 10 (01:16:26):
All right.

Speaker 3 (01:16:27):
Lucy in the primary school love the text at Trog.
I love a net trog. It's a very famous citrus.
Thet trog.

Speaker 5 (01:16:41):
Know about that.

Speaker 3 (01:16:41):
I'm pretty sure that's the one that has big significance
in Judaism. They love a net trog. It's a bizarre
looking lumpy lemon. But I'll always remember that for my
ass head of fruit at Trog for joa grape.

Speaker 17 (01:17:04):
Ha ha.

Speaker 3 (01:17:06):
H is hard, which they're all hard? What's an h?

Speaker 26 (01:17:10):
Oh?

Speaker 13 (01:17:10):
No A.

Speaker 3 (01:17:14):
We could do that on here, couldn't we different things,
do a different one every night. Fruit beginning with H.
I'll kick myself when I hear it. Not many that
I know of, In fact, none really, apart from a
Himalayan mulberry. Yeah that's quite hard. I it's hard to

(01:17:44):
dragon fruits in the shop. Haven't tried it yet, Brent,
thank you. Nothing like a cup of hot cocoa before bed,
one dessert spoon cocoa, one dessert spoons, sugar NB. But
but a cup of milk. I get a good night,
steep sleep and wake refreshed. Also, I don't put on weight,
maybe because I wake ready to go love your show, Jill,
Jill Marcus, free sleep, you still have trouble sleep? Have

(01:18:06):
to pick that knows that when sleeping there is a
gentle pause after breathing out. I apply that breathing pattern
and not off peacefully knows that when sleeping there's a
gentle pause after breathing out. I apply that breathing pattern.
Go you, Laurie Marcus.

Speaker 9 (01:18:25):
Welcome, Hi Marcus. Yeah, I find if I visualize or
think that I'm painting the side of the house, puts
me after.

Speaker 3 (01:18:38):
Sleep on a trestle or up a letter or where
are you?

Speaker 26 (01:18:44):
No?

Speaker 9 (01:18:44):
No, no, starting on, starting at the bottom. I don't
usually have to go very far for a small sleep.
Got to watch out. You don't start flinging your arms
around else your wife will kick.

Speaker 3 (01:18:55):
You out of bed.

Speaker 4 (01:18:56):
Wow.

Speaker 3 (01:18:56):
And just with a roller or a brush, just a brush.

Speaker 9 (01:18:59):
Here, just a brush, small brush, smaller bit of properly. Yeah,
a boring, very boring job.

Speaker 3 (01:19:06):
But yeah, did you have trouble getting to sleep before
you tried that?

Speaker 13 (01:19:11):
Yeah?

Speaker 9 (01:19:11):
I have one occasions. Yeah, you know you're working somewhere
in the hot, sweaty place sometimes or you know, all
ventilation sometimes. But these days I don't seem to have
too much problem. I've usually keep pretty busy during the
day and drop off pretty well.

Speaker 3 (01:19:28):
Yeah, it sounds quite quite like that. Yeah, so it's
just not thinking about a menial task and going about it. Yeah,
makes sense, boring one.

Speaker 9 (01:19:37):
Hey, yeah, just that that guy chipped in before about
the way, but just thinking about your show last year,
that must have been an award winning show I reckon
that you did on the.

Speaker 3 (01:19:47):
Yeah, that's right, that's absolutely right.

Speaker 9 (01:19:49):
Tremendous because there was guys chipping in from more overplace,
wasn't there, you know, sort of that involved in different
parts of the rescue, and it's amazing.

Speaker 3 (01:19:59):
It's funny. And I don't feel like we'll go back
to it tomorrow night because I feel that you don't
want to go to it too often because it's then
it would become it was just ritualistic every year that
they go there. So I don't even know what because
last year, last year must have been forty five years.

(01:20:21):
It must have been an anniversar or five year anniversary
or something.

Speaker 9 (01:20:25):
But it would have been hard to replicate some of this,
some of those calls that come in from guys just
speed on every part of the rescue. Basically it seems
quite chee guys.

Speaker 3 (01:20:36):
All those people and those fishing, those fishing vessels. Yeah yeah, yeah, okay, Laurie,
thank you. Yeah, no, nice thoughts about that so well, yeah,
I just think about what we'll do. You're nineteen sixty eighth,
it would be would have been yeah, fifty six years
last year. I don't know why it went off, but

(01:20:58):
it did came in a bit later on. I think
then in the night too last night last year, we're
talking about getting to sleep people. That's what we're about
to oh eight hundred eighty your tricks and hacks for
doing that, including changing light bulb, sleep masks, chanting, love
it all. If you've got something to add to this,

(01:21:20):
it'd be good to hear from it's your show people,
and maybe for some people it's not getting to sleep,
it's waking up and then getting back to sleep too.
That's the theme for tonight. So if you've got something
to say, oh eight hundred eighty, ten eighty and nineteen
ninety to text, looking forward to hearing from you lines

(01:21:44):
they are now free. Gosh up your warning now. Someone
said h for honey, you meil, and that's right. We
won't go right through the whole world of a Z
but there we go. Come on, it's all about sleep tonight.
You will have techniques that you've invented or learned, or
apps or watches or things that you will do. What

(01:22:07):
about the pillows? Three pillows under the leg now that
someone wants to talk about I'd like to hear you
talk about that also tonight, people, But maybe it's about
getting to sleep. It's the Insomnia Special, counting down from
sixty six, counting down from three hundred and threes two

(01:22:29):
e eight. Come on, it's right about people's emails and
texts also tonight, maybe I'll put everyone to sleep. Yep,
ye yep, yep, yep, yep, yep, yep, yep. I haven't

(01:22:52):
heard anyone talk about what are the drinks? Is it
horlicks or oval ty.

Speaker 13 (01:23:01):
O?

Speaker 3 (01:23:01):
Nice to hear from you, Viv. So it's the Aussie holidays.
Aussie holidays at the moment. That's why Viv's are over there,
because I was over this time last year. I didn't
know the kids are on holiday. But we're in New
South Wales, not Queensland. Good evening, Louise, It's Marcus, welcome.

Speaker 7 (01:23:18):
Hi, Hi, Marcus, how are you good, Louise?

Speaker 4 (01:23:24):
Yeah, okay, sleep yeah. A two years ago I had
no off twitch. I just couldn't get sleep, and I
was on zoplacone and sometimes that didn't work. Oh, I thought,
what am I going to do? I don't want to
take any more medication. So I got a CD called

(01:23:45):
Deep Sleep by doctor. He's a doctor, Stephen Gergovich.

Speaker 3 (01:23:51):
Oh Google, you got Google vir CD, did you?

Speaker 7 (01:23:55):
Yes?

Speaker 21 (01:23:55):
I did?

Speaker 4 (01:23:56):
And two nights later, no zoplacone. I have not touched
op the coon since. Brilliant, absolutely brilliant. So I have
sleep oval tea, which works really well if I do
have night rok sleep, and I also have magnesium cream.

(01:24:20):
Magnesium is better absorbed through the skin. So it's no
point in taking a magnesium tablets because it won't work
as well. So you can get oils, you can get
sprays and get creams whatever, but it does help with
muscle aches and things. So brilliant. Name is Steve Gergovich, Gurgovi,

(01:24:44):
Steve doctor Stephen Gergovitch, was called Deep Sleep.

Speaker 3 (01:24:49):
Does it sound like.

Speaker 4 (01:24:51):
What's it sound like? It's it's Typno, it's medical hypnosis.

Speaker 13 (01:24:59):
Is no no no no no no no.

Speaker 4 (01:25:05):
Gets you do deep breathing and about.

Speaker 7 (01:25:09):
Okay, but yeah, it worked.

Speaker 28 (01:25:13):
Well.

Speaker 4 (01:25:13):
He's a doctor. So I don't know if you can
get it on Spotify or something like that. I don't know, probably,
but you can still get the CDs on eBay. I
used it so much that I actually wore the city
D's out. Wow. Yeah, I know, didn't play in the end.

(01:25:34):
I might get it again actually and just have it
there in case I need it. But he shows you
a technique with your thumb and forefinger, and now I
just need to deep breathe and do that and gone.

Speaker 3 (01:25:47):
What's his name?

Speaker 17 (01:25:49):
Is it?

Speaker 3 (01:25:49):
Yo?

Speaker 4 (01:25:53):
Gergovich, g u are g the E C H. I
think something along the line. But it works brilliantly.

Speaker 3 (01:26:07):
Sleep trying to find his name.

Speaker 4 (01:26:10):
Yeah, well if you look up, sleep please, I.

Speaker 3 (01:26:13):
Can't see anywhere, Louise, but think you. I can't see
that at all. Deep sleep, deep sleep. He's a doctor. Wow,
being Marcus.

Speaker 30 (01:26:30):
As the Marcus.

Speaker 3 (01:26:31):
It's good. Thank you being real good. Thanks for asking
what's happening?

Speaker 16 (01:26:35):
Just cruising, homemade, just cruising, not.

Speaker 3 (01:26:37):
Putting it asleep. I'm not putting it asleep.

Speaker 22 (01:26:42):
Yeah, you will be in half an hour.

Speaker 3 (01:26:45):
What's your technique.

Speaker 22 (01:26:48):
So I've got this met called a shakati that eck
you prissia met. Yes, a bunch of a bunch of
little spots.

Speaker 3 (01:26:57):
Yes, along on that for.

Speaker 22 (01:26:59):
Twenty minutes in the dark, and you've got to focus
on your breathing and nothing obviously, but and you listened
to the show and then I fall asleep within twenty minutes.

Speaker 3 (01:27:11):
Wow, was it was? Was that recommended to you as
a sleep technique or to just experience that through experimentation.

Speaker 22 (01:27:20):
I've got got given the matt as a pain really from.

Speaker 31 (01:27:24):
My back, yes, and and I just find that it
just relaxes you so much, and like you now fall
asleep when you first line the man it's like it's
a matt full of little spikes.

Speaker 30 (01:27:38):
It's like buggery when.

Speaker 22 (01:27:39):
Your first line and you can line up like about
two minutes and then you're extreme pain. But after twenty
one days you've got to you gotta stick at it.
You pulled up to it and then yeah, now yeah,
you fall asleep on it and you feel real good
in the morning.

Speaker 3 (01:27:55):
I quite like the sound to that. I've had. I've
had footwear like that with the spikes on. It's quite
good value because it gets incredibly painful until your coach
don't know where those are. But anyway, yeah, okay, I
like the sound of that. But it's supposed to be
sleep paid as well as it.

Speaker 16 (01:28:10):
Wow, I'm not too shot.

Speaker 22 (01:28:11):
Sort of used today as more well baft pain or
other pain just gets all the white bloodsells flying around
your body, but more yep, I found that it works
really well.

Speaker 3 (01:28:23):
Hey, Ben, just being just in case people are interested.
Where did you get it?

Speaker 21 (01:28:29):
I've got given to.

Speaker 3 (01:28:31):
Yeah, okay, sorry about that. Yeah, someone will.

Speaker 22 (01:28:34):
Know which is weird. When I first cat her, I
was like, this is fucking strange man going on.

Speaker 3 (01:28:40):
Yeah, I'll find out more about that, Ben, Thank you.
Oh John, Marcus.

Speaker 30 (01:28:47):
Evening, yeahy good evening Marcus, John here and Cromwell. How
things you good?

Speaker 3 (01:28:52):
John has Cromwell today all good?

Speaker 30 (01:28:54):
Yeah, yeah, a nice hot day, a very cold start
with about three degrees that were ramped up to about twenty.

Speaker 3 (01:28:59):
And snow on the hills.

Speaker 30 (01:29:01):
I heard it came down to make Yeah. Yeah, I've
got a bit of a query that some of your
readers might be able to help with. What do you
use to permanently clean take the sheen and dust off
the inside of a front windscreen of a car. No
matter what I do, within half a day, I've still
got a film of dust basically lining the front windscreen

(01:29:26):
of the car. And every time you go it at night,
you go under a street light and it shows all
the marks that you got and didn't get. Basically, I've
been using window leaning a rag, but it's never been
very successful. And what tends to happen about the car
grooming industry or what.

Speaker 3 (01:29:42):
Tends to happen?

Speaker 30 (01:29:43):
John, Yep, what tends to happen?

Speaker 3 (01:29:46):
Well, sorry, John, this is me talking what tends to happen,
because I've got a similar problem. Is you know that dash,
that plastic dash yep, the top b of that on
a new car that seems to get hot and gives
off some form of guess that makes the inside of

(01:30:10):
the windows screen the windscreen like that. So it's a
continuing process. Yeah, yeah, right, And of course it really has.
Sometimes it becomes very hard to see.

Speaker 30 (01:30:21):
Yeah, yeah, you're right. I'll keep a rag and a
bit of window inkod it's the only thing that's I
found that's half quite useful, But half a day down
the track.

Speaker 3 (01:30:31):
Yeah, I agree, it's same with me. It does it
makes no sense.

Speaker 30 (01:30:35):
Yeah, but I took my car. Well, when you get
a brand new car from a deal, which I've been
lucky enough to do once or twice in my life,
that the windscreen is crystal clear, you don't get any
imperfections on it. And you know that the car has
been obviously two three months old from when it came
from the factory, so it must be letting off heaps
of this gas. But yet the car dealers seem to

(01:30:59):
have got the neck of keeping it permanently clean. But
you never get it back to that state.

Speaker 3 (01:31:04):
I'll find out, John says they card groovers. A appreciate that.
Thank you anyone for John, anyone for John, John, John,
I've got any advice for John? Twenty all about sleep people?
Have you seen it? Twenty three past ten?

Speaker 9 (01:31:16):
Oh?

Speaker 3 (01:31:16):
Wait, hundred eighty ten eighty techniques and things you've tried?
Marcus For windscreen cleaning, I use a window cleaner with
a vinegar content, so good and no lingering vinegar smell.
I like the vinegar smell. Do not use windowline on
tinted glass as may contain ammonia. Get a specialized autoglass

(01:31:39):
cleaner and that should clear the windscreen. Go to Bunnings
get some ic of proper alcohol best for not leaving
a film. Why is it dangerous to mix alcohol and
sleeping pills? The pharmacists didn't say why. Oh, I don't
know the answer to that, but yeah, I mean that's

(01:32:00):
pretty that's that's no no one on one, isn't it.
I don't know what it does, but someone might like
to explain all Google that I am a car groom
in the Naki dishwashing liquid and white vinegar and water
in a spray bottle with a queen Rag Marcus to

(01:32:21):
help John. The mistake you're making is the window clean.
Best way is to clean well once with a product,
then just wipe with clean micro fibercloth and used his
mister on cool and low often. I've got to be
on kool eh. Hello Mark, Oh, I'm leaning forward now evening, Marcus.

(01:32:42):
I have been an insomniac for many years and have
been on one zopp placone at night for over ten years,
which worked well for some years. The last six months
I was having a lot of trouble getting to sleep,
staying asleep and woke up tired. Rebound insomnia. Doctor said,
so the zip zoplicone weren't working anymore. Now on am
a trip to Lene which is non addictive, and sleep

(01:33:03):
so well will eventually stop taking these two What a
lot of people, like myself don't realize it's taking any
sleeping medication makes you much more prone to falls. By
the way, counting backwards never helped me, In fact, it
made it worse. But what does is one of two things?
Repeating two words a bit like a mantrak, how many
two words? Ea do you like? King, Queen, Porsche, Mercedes,

(01:33:27):
et cetera. And going through the alphabet naming places in
New Zealand and when you've got that such na place
around the world, also alphabetically. Both work for me. Cheers Lindy,
AH through New Zealand starting with A jeepest Creeper is okay,
Johnsonville for J, Queenstown for Q. What's for Z is

(01:33:49):
ZINGERI a suburb? I don't know? A suburb is starting
with zed place in New Zealand starting with Z. I
thought Woundham was the last one you got to. We've
done it the same with the kids, actually, but many

(01:34:10):
it's about Oh I've got calls. Sorry people, I'll get
you to take good evening markets, Marcus. Welcome, good day Marcus.

Speaker 9 (01:34:23):
How are you mate?

Speaker 3 (01:34:24):
Good things make good?

Speaker 29 (01:34:27):
I just talk about sleep. I could, I would chat
ye with you about it.

Speaker 3 (01:34:31):
That's all right, he is absolutely.

Speaker 29 (01:34:35):
I'm a shift worker and I struggled for years, years
to get a decent night sleep, especially coming off.

Speaker 10 (01:34:42):
Like the night shift. I struggle, and it ruins.

Speaker 29 (01:34:46):
It ruins the rest of your day. You ruined, You
ruined your days off.

Speaker 3 (01:34:50):
That's horrible.

Speaker 29 (01:34:51):
Going to the doctor's quite horrible. Are going to the
doctors and get in some malatonin, some slow release tablets proscribed,
and they did wonder if they helped me sleep days sleep?
So I did more, staying in long term and I
found the best things to be was magnesium.

Speaker 18 (01:35:12):
Yeah, magnesium and.

Speaker 29 (01:35:15):
Calms me down and helped me ship my mind after
relaxing mumuscles. And then you start getting back into that
healthy lifestyle which also aid sleep, good food, good dire,
no alcohol, working out, and yeah, I'd do shift work,
but it helps. The magnesium helps and the lifestyle helps.
So I got myself back into a really good pattern.

Speaker 3 (01:35:37):
What did you say about the melantona? Did you want
to stop taking that?

Speaker 6 (01:35:40):
Is it?

Speaker 20 (01:35:41):
What you said, Yeah, I didn't want to.

Speaker 29 (01:35:44):
I didn't want to be on a prescribe medication for years.

Speaker 21 (01:35:49):
You know what I mean?

Speaker 29 (01:35:50):
It helps and sleep supportant, but there's going to be
some adverse side effects from taking maltona. Yeah, constantly for years,
and I was on it for a long time. I
was playing more close to a year. Yeah, I just
I made the decision that I want to come off it,
and I started exploring thing and I found that magnesium
and a good fish oil. I take a really good

(01:36:11):
fish oil and magnesium, And I don't know if it's
just a combination of that and my lifestyle change that's.

Speaker 21 (01:36:16):
Really helped me.

Speaker 3 (01:36:18):
Do you do one of those shifts that changes?

Speaker 10 (01:36:21):
Yeah, I do too early.

Speaker 29 (01:36:22):
Two lates, two nights.

Speaker 3 (01:36:24):
I hate that. That's got a name for it, hasn't it.
There's a special name for that shift pattern.

Speaker 32 (01:36:29):
Is that right?

Speaker 9 (01:36:31):
I'm not sure.

Speaker 21 (01:36:31):
I'm sure.

Speaker 29 (01:36:32):
I'm sure there will be I'm not sure, but yeah,
two lates, two nights. Then for four days off.

Speaker 21 (01:36:38):
Yes, if you don't have did a good.

Speaker 29 (01:36:39):
Night's sleep on that last day when you come half
back home from work, you can ruin your days off.

Speaker 17 (01:36:45):
You know.

Speaker 3 (01:36:46):
I can have mentioned and you don't want to be
up at the middle of the night when anyone else
is asleep, do.

Speaker 29 (01:36:50):
You, Yeah, because then he gets stuck in that cycle
and that you've got to get up for your first
early ship it's on your birthday back and then you
can you can just spiral, you know.

Speaker 3 (01:37:00):
Nice to hear from you, Mike, thank you found it interesting. Oh,
eight hundred and eighty Tony, my name is Marcus. Welcome
twenty nine from twenty nine, from one, two, three, four, five,
twenty nine from eleven. Hahuh did I talk to to Mike?
Didn't talk to Mike. No, it's got a different order

(01:37:25):
that hasn't it. Oh, it's the order they phone. Okay.
By the way, there's no suburbs or towns and you's
in that begin with X, Y or Z. The last
is Wyndham. I've done that with the kids when you
go through them. And then interesting for those who are

(01:37:49):
trying to go through the alphabet, there's two places that
begin with jay, Jack's Point and Jacob's River. Very interesting. Actually,
there's one that begins with Q Queenstown. This is towns

(01:38:14):
and news interesting enough, there's only four towns that begin
with ah. You think there'd be more, wouldn't you. And Nangahua,
Englewood and Vera Cargill and Rwell small town in Canterbury,
New Zealand. Never heard of it? Erwell, how are you? Erwell? Goodness?

(01:38:39):
Never heard of Rwell.

Speaker 5 (01:38:42):
So there we go.

Speaker 3 (01:38:42):
We've learned something well, I have erwell. Whether I remember
it or not, I don't know. Twenty eight to eleven
People of New Zealand, Marcus for John can buy online
Google fabric dashboard covers and then put the make and
year of your carr on the information request. Pay online.

(01:39:03):
It arrives in the post in a short time. The
holes for the events are exactly in place, so it
stops the plastic getting extremely hot and perhaps giving off
the vapor. Thanks feel great show every night, Colleen g
Donnie here liked to go the car winners. I can't
keep the shower door clean. Oh you get stuff on
the radio for that, don't you. I've always seeing the

(01:39:25):
jingle are there as Yulehurst the suburb? Thank you, Katrina.
Twenty five to eleven, Good evening, Glenda, It's Marcus. Welcome.

Speaker 17 (01:39:41):
Hi Marcus. I mean I mean listening to your sleep
program with some interest because I've tried a lot of
the things that people are.

Speaker 20 (01:39:53):
Describing, and I have.

Speaker 17 (01:39:58):
I sometimes work in a space that had no natural light,
which I know is actually a bit of a trigger,
because if you don't know that you're getting day and night,
it's very hard to Can you break that it's nighttime now? Yeah,
but I just sort of i'd share a really interesting
thing that I have found personally that works for me.

(01:40:22):
And I actually found that I fall asleep very easily
listening to voices. So I put and I don't listen
to music because that keeps me. I like it too much,
So I put my like, I pair it on with
a film from you know, TVMCS that I actually don't
want to watch, or Tearflick that I don't want to watch,

(01:40:44):
and I put my iPads in and I turn it
face down and I start listening, and I probably sleep
in five minutes every single night. Yeah, it's a very
it's very interesting. I know it's quite different. I think
it's because I just get bored with hearing voices or something.

Speaker 9 (01:41:00):
I don't know.

Speaker 3 (01:41:02):
Now, what do you do with you if you're working
on a place with no natural light? Do you dim
lights or something to show that it's getting dark to
keep that rhythm going, and I.

Speaker 17 (01:41:13):
Just make sure I go outside. Okay, so I make
sure I tell my body that it is actually daytime.

Speaker 3 (01:41:20):
Yeah, I see what you're saying. Okay, so you're working
in the day anyway, You're not working at night in
those things.

Speaker 17 (01:41:26):
No, I'm working in the day, but I'm working in
a dark space.

Speaker 3 (01:41:30):
Yeah, it's it's actually dark.

Speaker 17 (01:41:34):
Well, it's actually the green room of a theater.

Speaker 3 (01:41:37):
Oh well okay, yeah.

Speaker 17 (01:41:40):
Yeah, So I'm we're going to think a lot of
theater people are the same and that they work a
lot in a theater space. You don't actually have natural light.
You have light, but it's not natural light.

Speaker 3 (01:41:54):
I've never thought of that. Oh, this is interesting, Glenda.
Think you were looking at different techniques to keep them going.
Twenty three to eeven. Very generous you people with your suggestions.
Oh eight, one hundred and eighty ten eighty haddle twelve. Well,
it's just at least thing going towards Christ. It's nice
little place of every church a half dozen houses listen
to do music and or Karen esh album track Return

(01:42:17):
to Nowhere or Heaven's Gate knocking back a cup of
hot strong miso soup. Wow, Marcus, my wife and I
are lying in upper in bed and upper hearts. She

(01:42:40):
turned it to me and asked me if there any
places starting with you. That's very funny, Marcus. Westport comes
before Wyndham. Every time we took at the last place,
Wyndham is the last town alphabetically nice little town. Actually
Wyndham train used to go there. Of course, she's about sleep. Hello,

(01:43:05):
Steve Marcus welcome.

Speaker 21 (01:43:07):
Yeah, you get a Marcus herein. Yeah, good, look you
sleep getting asleep. There's a bit of science behind brain
waves and the firing of the synapse, and there's different
frequencies the brainways fire at. So there's thing called alpha
and alpha state, alpha, beta, FETA and delta, and delta's

(01:43:28):
the slowest firing. Feta is when you just go to sleep,
and delta is when you're in deep, deep sleep. There's
music you can listen to called binaural beats, which is
a sort of meditative trance type sort of meditation music.
But it's got a little pulse in the background that
pulses at a certain frequency. And if and you have

(01:43:51):
it in a stereo system and each speaker side of
the speaker pulses in a slightly different frequency. Is a
science behind it. Like I said, it's called binormal beats,
and what it does is your brain starts firing in
time with this little pulse that's going on in the background.
And if you put on fetter waves so for concentration,
you can go on the beta for like studying and

(01:44:14):
stuff like that. Alpha is when you're hyper alert, but
feta is when you have all your creative thoughts, like
when you're just sort of going to sleep or you're
just woken up.

Speaker 4 (01:44:23):
Now.

Speaker 21 (01:44:24):
Some people will put them used binoral beats to go
into feta spaces for creativity. But if you put on delta,
it puts you into a real deep sleep and doesn't
take long. And look, I used it for a while
and I have a lot of sleep patterns and it
was as funny. My family used to hate me putting
it on because they took a while to sort of
get used to it. But once I'd sometimes put it

(01:44:45):
on when the rest of the family were already asleep
and all the kids, my wife, even the dogs would sleep.
And if they're normally up at seven o'clock, sometimes they's
sleeping at eight thirty nine. O'clock because it just keeps
you in this real deep meditative sleep, and the more
you do it, sometimes you just put it on and
your brain sort of instantly starts timing with it and

(01:45:08):
it zonks you out. So it's an actual science, and
a lot of those meditation maybe that deep sleep thing
the lady was talking about before, and that a lot
of that has probably got this science and behind it.

Speaker 3 (01:45:21):
Do you have to have a SEO that need to
be in stereo?

Speaker 21 (01:45:25):
Yeah, it helps if it's in stereo. It doesn't necessarily
have to be. The more s there in one ear,
it induces the synapses to fire better, but it doesn't
necessarily have to We'll not be traveling for work sometimes
and I'm in a different motel room in a different
time zone. I would just check it on my phone
and just put it up. Put it up either under

(01:45:46):
my pillow or It's going to be at the right
volume too, so not so loud that it's intrusive and
keeping you alert, but loud enough that you can actually
focus on it and you need to stop your mind
from wandering, actually actively listen to the music and actively
listen to the to the tones and five to seven
minutes I'd be out every time, when normally I'd be

(01:46:09):
maybe ninety minutes to two hours at best to get
to sleep.

Speaker 3 (01:46:14):
Where is it? Where do you find it? Just as
on an app or you just google?

Speaker 21 (01:46:18):
Yeah, but YouTube, it's all over the place. It's actually
a real common science is being used now for them.
Like I said, some people use it for studying. They'll
go into beta and it helps concentration. So yeah, there
is a science mind it. So binormal beats b I
n AU are a l and it's fascinating. You'll see

(01:46:39):
a few little things on YouTube explaining it are the
science and behind it. Yeah. I found it really fascinating
and it works brilliant.

Speaker 3 (01:46:47):
Nice to hear from you, Steve, good stuff, appreciate your enthusiasm.
Fifteen to eleven Markets Marcus, Hello.

Speaker 15 (01:46:54):
Hi, how are you good?

Speaker 3 (01:46:56):
Thank you?

Speaker 11 (01:46:56):
Mark?

Speaker 3 (01:46:56):
How are you?

Speaker 11 (01:46:58):
Oh?

Speaker 23 (01:47:00):
Just listening to your things from my arm. Yeah, I agree,
like it very hard to get off to sleep. But
I take this sleep and a neckt impulse or I
forget what they card and they seem to work. And yeah,

(01:47:20):
I just find it really hard to get off to sleep.
In the summers, I'm okay, and other nights I'm not
like because I did a lot of DJO went back
in the past. Are working in clubs and oh yeah, yeah,
I just found it very hard to get off to sleep.
But yeah, it's very interesting to see people ringing up

(01:47:41):
and talking about it.

Speaker 3 (01:47:43):
So have you got medication? Is that what you use?

Speaker 11 (01:47:46):
Yes?

Speaker 3 (01:47:47):
Okay, have you taken your pill to? Have you taken
your pill tonight?

Speaker 13 (01:47:53):
Yes?

Speaker 3 (01:47:54):
How long god you take it?

Speaker 11 (01:47:58):
Oh?

Speaker 23 (01:47:59):
It depends like sometimes it takes a couple of hours
to kick and it works.

Speaker 3 (01:48:03):
Yeah, okay, Well you've taken a couple of hours ago. Yeah, okay,
good luck with that. Mark thirteen to eleven. I count
backward slowly from one hundred. I lose my place. If
I lose my place, I start again. Some nights I
need to do it over again. But I swear by it. Victoria,
you won't be hearing from the people with the best
sleep solutions, as they've already nodded off. Weeknights. I come

(01:48:28):
to bed, tune to your show, and set my radio
to go off in twenty minutes. I'm never awake when
it goes off. You're the best sleeping henter for me.
That's from Trish. She probably won't even hear a text
read out. Woosh old trish, trist trish.

Speaker 12 (01:48:43):
You read.

Speaker 3 (01:48:44):
Someone says you alreadly need earbuds or phones. Earphones for
bayounal beat says each air receives a different frequency, and
your brain hears the difference between the will it'll be
quite interesting to hear them. I quite like to do that.
Eight away from eleven Todd Marcus.

Speaker 7 (01:48:58):
Hello, Hi Marcus, my mom's a little bit different. Oh well,
it's I go through the States of America.

Speaker 3 (01:49:07):
Oh, yes, I can do that. I could do that. Okay,
I learned those don't Alaska, Alabama, Alabama, Arizona, Arizona, Arkansas.

Speaker 33 (01:49:21):
Or there's no Connecticut, Connecticut, Colorado, California, Connecticut, Colorado, Colorado, Connecticut.

Speaker 3 (01:49:31):
Three seas Delaware.

Speaker 7 (01:49:35):
Yeah, and then we either include Dakota under the or
we save saved South and North Dakota for the end.
But let's put them under.

Speaker 3 (01:49:42):
Bene of Dakota's Florida.

Speaker 7 (01:49:45):
Yep, Florida is the only one for gens only one Georgia.

Speaker 3 (01:49:49):
And then Hawaii, then Iowa, Idaho, Illinois, this four for
I aren't there are there four for I?

Speaker 7 (01:49:58):
M hm? I annoyed? And Indiana Yeah, that's right, Indiana.

Speaker 3 (01:50:08):
J K, Kentucky, Kansas, l Louisiana.

Speaker 7 (01:50:12):
Isn't the three ks Kansas, Kentucky two K, Yeah, Louisiana
and then shells.

Speaker 3 (01:50:20):
Eight, the eight and these eight ins. Yeah, I've done
a similar thing.

Speaker 7 (01:50:25):
All right, Well you get you get what I'm saying,
never for do it. I sometimes segue into countries of Africa,
but that that's a whole night.

Speaker 3 (01:50:32):
But anyway, do you know all the countries of Africa?

Speaker 7 (01:50:35):
Mm? Hmmm?

Speaker 3 (01:50:37):
How many are there?

Speaker 7 (01:50:38):
I can call? I can call back tomorrow.

Speaker 3 (01:50:40):
Do you do them from top to bottom? Or how many?

Speaker 8 (01:50:44):
No?

Speaker 7 (01:50:44):
I I swiped across from Egypt, work my way across
the Morocco, and then I'll sort of do a sweeping
imagine a Z side to side to side to side,
and then you end up sort of down it. But
South Africa. But you can't forget your Cape Cape Thirds
you're Mauritius, your seashells?

Speaker 3 (01:51:05):
Do the islands as well? Because I part of Africa,
aren't they?

Speaker 13 (01:51:07):
Yeah?

Speaker 7 (01:51:08):
But I tend to I'd just step at the continum
first and then put my islands in at the end,
you know what I mean?

Speaker 3 (01:51:13):
And how many are there?

Speaker 4 (01:51:17):
Well?

Speaker 7 (01:51:17):
You've got me here, I'm I shouldn't. I think it's
fifty two, Okay, I never thought of anything away. Yeah,
it's not a bad one. And by then generally on means.

Speaker 20 (01:51:29):
To go to bed.

Speaker 3 (01:51:32):
The other thing I kind of do, right if I'm
in a meeting that's really boring or trying to pass
time or trying to as I and I'll stop practicing
as I add all the numbers between one and a
hundred in sequence, and that gets good. You go one, three, sixteen, fifteen,
twenty one, twenty eight, thirty five, or however it goes,

(01:51:55):
And yeah, it really kind of gets your minded. I
don't know if it helps you go to sleep, but
certainly occupies for you if.

Speaker 7 (01:52:03):
Any anything which probes and you know our history, geography,
you'll just keep your brain thinking. Yeah, and I actually
kind of either work in two ways. I have put
your sleep where actually you get right into it.

Speaker 3 (01:52:14):
And reactivate, or even getting up to getting up to
turn the light on to find the atlas.

Speaker 7 (01:52:19):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, So that's a doublished for this one.

Speaker 3 (01:52:24):
Good on you're tod I've enjoyed that, thank you. I
do very much similar things five or four away from eleven.
My name is Marcus. Welcome Hello. There is a mountain
called Mountain Denicus and the villainy of the Routeburn Track.
I think about sleep. I heard that signers have discovered
that you need to experience some natural data outside for
the body to make the sleep hormone melotonin at night. Also,

(01:52:46):
being in a proper dark room seems to make seap
much better. It can also help to use eye covers,
which are more comfortable if you make your own with
three layers of dark velvet fabric as this is breathable.
That's from and I think it's some pretty high end
sleep masks out there. I don't think you need to
make your own. George, it's Marcus. Good evening.

Speaker 13 (01:53:06):
How are you helping?

Speaker 3 (01:53:07):
But George, how are you going?

Speaker 2 (01:53:08):
All right?

Speaker 13 (01:53:10):
Yeah, I'm ringing regarding the small bakery who make these
hot Cross buns or whatever they have cinnamon buns or something,
who are being screwed by some American conglomerate for using
that name. Sure, and I have been down the road

(01:53:34):
with these sorts of situations in my lifetime, and I
feel that they should not be put in this position.
They have a perfect entitlement to use the name that
they have used before those people arrived in this country

(01:53:57):
and told them that they can't do it like a
bloody trump carry on. Now, what I would like to do,
and you probably have to do it off here is
offer my phone number to these people to contact me
because I wanted to do something concrete about it on
their behalf.

Speaker 3 (01:54:16):
What has happened to you?

Speaker 13 (01:54:21):
Take half an how to explain? But I developed a
machine to develop or reconstitute sawdust into logs for log
for log burners without any outside you know, just simply and.

Speaker 3 (01:54:44):
I'll just sort of nothing else.

Speaker 9 (01:54:46):
Yeah.

Speaker 13 (01:54:47):
Yeah, there was no editor through anything. And I got
screwed out of that by the Canterbury Regional Council because
they said it might cause pollution. It had eight percent
moisture content, which was average if I would your million
has twenty five percent moisture content. And there was absolutely

(01:55:13):
no pollution or no smoke. No, But that's only one thing.
I've done a raft of different things. Okay, that that
cost me two million dollars, But that costs.

Speaker 3 (01:55:24):
That was you know, Okay, So George, this is a cafe.
It's a cafe in Auckland.

Speaker 13 (01:55:29):
Right, I don't know where it is. I just saw
it on use Okay, but they they have they have
been making well I heard it this morning on the
radio that we're talking to you. Was that Mike Hutchin's
what his name is. They've been making these months for
three or four years, and they have been just issued

(01:55:53):
by an American conglomerate to cease and desist for using
that name.

Speaker 3 (01:55:58):
Yeah, but what do you want to leave in number?
What do you want to leave your number for?

Speaker 13 (01:56:04):
I would like them to contact me and I might
be able to help them in a way that they
may not envisage.

Speaker 3 (01:56:13):
How would that be?

Speaker 13 (01:56:16):
Well, in my experience with fighting with bureaucracy and standing
up to them, I might be able to offer them
one or to alternatives to giving in like what well,
first and foremost by boycotting the American Conglomerate and simply

(01:56:38):
not buying their product and standing up and carrying on
selling their product under that name, and then causing them
to have to come and create a whole lot of
bloody international whatever they help and get New Zealand people
behind them to stand up to it.

Speaker 3 (01:57:02):
Okay, A couple of things, right, yep? Just contact them?
Why you're calling the.

Speaker 13 (01:57:08):
Radio because I don't know what their number is.

Speaker 3 (01:57:12):
Well, google them pretty easy.

Speaker 13 (01:57:14):
I don't have Look, I'm seventy six year old.

Speaker 17 (01:57:17):
Pa.

Speaker 3 (01:57:18):
No, that's not that old.

Speaker 13 (01:57:20):
No, But I have no comprehension of any of that
type of thing at all. I can make phone calls
on your phone, and I can send text matrices, and
outside of that, I'm completely oblivious to any of it.

Speaker 3 (01:57:39):
Oh two two, hang on, we're we're we're.

Speaker 13 (01:57:43):
Wait a minute, Well, I have to get a pen.

Speaker 16 (01:57:47):
And put me glasses on.

Speaker 13 (01:57:56):
Okay, start again.

Speaker 3 (01:57:57):
Oh too too? Oh two two five seven? Was that
a nine five seven?

Speaker 13 (01:58:13):
O two two nine seven.

Speaker 3 (01:58:19):
Two two five seven?

Speaker 15 (01:58:22):
Okay, yeah, yeah yeah five seven, yeah, triple four, triple
four one two three four yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:58:34):
Just three fours, not four fours triple.

Speaker 13 (01:58:36):
Four Oh sorry, yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:58:40):
Double five.

Speaker 13 (01:58:43):
That's I'm sitting in the.

Speaker 16 (01:58:47):
Light where I am.

Speaker 13 (01:58:48):
It's not that hell of the crack five five seven
four four four and the other two were five five
five five. Okay, thanks very much, but George, yeah, you.

Speaker 3 (01:59:07):
Just call them something else. It's not a big deal.
What is what they're called? I can't even what's the
other company called?

Speaker 13 (01:59:16):
Dan?

Speaker 3 (01:59:18):
No, I've got two words, what.

Speaker 13 (01:59:23):
The American company.

Speaker 3 (01:59:25):
It's just called Cinna Buns, but they could just call
them something else.

Speaker 13 (01:59:29):
No, these people, from what I understand, have been making
these buns for three or four five years. They had
a couple of small shops, and they are now being
told by this American conglomerate to cease NB systs from
using that name.

Speaker 3 (01:59:49):
I think it's Cna Borne, is it don or Cinnabon? Sorry,
I'm just talking about producer as well. It's Cinnabon dan
ce I n N A b O N.

Speaker 13 (02:00:00):
What the company? The American company will be a New Zealand.

Speaker 3 (02:00:04):
Company, the American company.

Speaker 13 (02:00:06):
Okay, now you told me this. Why should they be
allowed to come into this country and tell these people
who have been making these these cinebuns or whatever the
hell they called for three or four years to be
told that they can no longer make them because we're

(02:00:26):
here and that's our name.

Speaker 3 (02:00:29):
Is it really such a big deal, though, yes, it is.

Speaker 13 (02:00:32):
Why the hell should they be bullied by people like
bloody Donald Trump to come into this country and tell
these people who are running a small business to be
told they can't do it.

Speaker 3 (02:00:45):
I don't really understand it, because to me. The company
is called sinner bonn b o N.

Speaker 13 (02:00:51):
I don't care what they're called. They have been told
to cease and desist from using that name and any
name that alludes close to it as well. That's what
I shall on this TV New Zealand News.

Speaker 3 (02:01:07):
What there must be like a cinnamon roll or Sinney roll.
I thought we called them.

Speaker 13 (02:01:11):
I've got no idea. All I know is that the
name of it. These Americans who have just arrived in
the country have told them, you can't do it. You
can't use that name. M if they came into this
country and told them that you weren't allowed to use
your name anymore because it sounds like something that they.

Speaker 3 (02:01:34):
It's sort of such a good name. They could call them.
They could call them a sinnamon squirrely wordly. There's a
million bitter names, even a very good names, cinnabon. That's
the thing is that the cross you.

Speaker 13 (02:01:43):
Want to die on Listen, Sunshine, don't call.

Speaker 3 (02:01:47):
Me sunshine George.

Speaker 13 (02:01:49):
Okay, Well, why should they be told okay for not
being allowed to do something that they have themselves created,
made and sold in this country for three or four
years or however long. Look told, don't be told by
an outside of the coming you can't do it anymore.

(02:02:11):
You can't use that name anymore.

Speaker 3 (02:02:13):
Caet treat is still going to exist. It's still going
to be delicious. Probably people don't even called it. They
just grab it with their tongs and put on the plate.
How's it going to Lallana Olive one of these?

Speaker 13 (02:02:24):
Why should they be told by an American company who
just walked into this bloody place in a matter of
minutes and be told you can't use that name anymore?
Why should they be told that.

Speaker 3 (02:02:41):
I don't know why you're getting so worked up about.

Speaker 13 (02:02:43):
It, because I don't feel that they should be pushed
around by people who come from outside to not be
allowed to do something that they themselves have created and
they themselves are making, and they themselves are selling. All right,

(02:03:05):
you got that?

Speaker 3 (02:03:06):
So what will you ring them and offer them?

Speaker 8 (02:03:11):
Uh?

Speaker 13 (02:03:11):
Well, I would just like to have a chat to
them and see what I can do to help them.

Speaker 3 (02:03:18):
Lelana is the person's name, Okay, Well I will ring them.
What what what if an American company started selling meat
under silver Fern silver Fern Farms?

Speaker 13 (02:03:31):
What if they did? Yeah, well, bluddy Chinese owned anyway,
quite a good answer, do they. Yeah, yeah, you look
it up on you all your all your gadgets they've got.

Speaker 3 (02:03:51):
I thought silver Ferns was owned by the farmers.

Speaker 13 (02:03:57):
It's all Chinese money, is it. Yep, And that's not
my problem. But what I'm saying is that as Silverffoon
Farms can't use the name Silverffoon Farms because some American

(02:04:17):
company comes in and sees you can't use that name anymore.
Half the country would be up in arms, wouldn't they.

Speaker 3 (02:04:24):
I'll talk about a Southern America. You started using the
name Silverfoon Farms. Sorry, okay, yeah, I'm going to go George,
but thank you. There's a building in far and Wellington.
It's an empty building on the corner of Tunnachie Street,
Naval Tasman Street and Wellington. A section of Tunnanakae Street

(02:04:45):
has blocked off avoid the area. Yeah. Look, I don't
know that. I'm not going to get upset about a
cinnamon barn. I just can't do it. Yeah, and they
realize they're going to change their name. It's actually that cafe.

(02:05:06):
It's in the par Homestead where they've got those art
it's sort of yeah, it's in the art gallery, I
think by the looks of things. So look, there is
a company, an international company called Cinnabonds, and they make
cinnamon scrolls and they have opened in Broadway. You market,
we used to call that two double seven, and that's
what they are doing. And they have come in there
and you can't that's their thing. Cinnabon. No one's for

(02:05:32):
its ouey guey. Cinnamon scrolls? Are there any good? I've
got no idea. I've never been to one. I don't
know how many there are around the world. I don't
know anything about it. But I'm sure there's cinnamon scrolls,

(02:05:52):
and you see them are much better, but you just
can't call them that. How much would you pay for
a Cinnabon? They do a cinnabond classic role and a
caramel pecan bond. It looks to me, it looks underwhelming.

(02:06:15):
I can imagine they don't taste or I can imagine
the tastes. I'm looking at them. Anyone been there? Let
me know. There's probably something that you go if you're
a twelve year old? Am I right? I've got no idea. Oh,
here's the menu. How much would you pay for one
of those? People will be interested. Does they have prices,

(02:06:37):
which freaks me out. I have to go older now
to find the price I'd like to take George there.
I can almost remember their number off by heart. Now
I've been blocked from their website. The website is using

(02:07:02):
a security service to protect itself from online at texts.
Is that you, George, Gosh, they've got problems with their website.
I just changed the name of a cinema. I think
probably the cafe was trying to drum up some publicity,
which is not a bad thing to do. It's a
hard place to get to. It's got that gallery that's
had a colored career, and they probably want to get

(02:07:27):
people across the door for the holidays.

Speaker 5 (02:07:31):
So there we go.

Speaker 3 (02:07:32):
Anyway, actually been to Cinnabon, I haven't. By the way,
China has announced eighty four percent tariffs on UIs goods.
Trump may have to go to one fifty percent to retaliate.
Crazier and crazier why he storm was on my seventeenth birthday.
I'm now seventy four. Tomorrow twenty nine to twelve, we

(02:07:57):
will talk about getting to sleep. Where if someone's texted
after George, everyone is asleep. I don't get too about
trade name things. We've had that many of them, remember
them all? Well, do you want me to count through them?

Speaker 9 (02:08:11):
All?

Speaker 3 (02:08:12):
Playgrounds with Donald Duck tripe characters. We've had the Black
Bull Hilton formerly known as the Black Bull Hilton. Every
year there's a one of these public There was Popeyes
that came to New Zealand, there was that takeaway in
Marton that was called Popeyes, and all the businesses seem

(02:08:32):
to get a bit of posty, change the name and
they seem to cope, all right, The Black Bull Hilton,
then it was became the pub formerly known as the
Black Bull Hilton. I think originally when these cease and
assist orders happened, then people were excited that. Overseas people
noticed us like, wow, look at us, but the Americans
or the Hilton telling us we can't name that, So

(02:08:56):
there we go. Yeah, I'm not too fussed about that.
Do I like a cinnamon scroll?

Speaker 21 (02:09:03):
Yeah?

Speaker 3 (02:09:04):
I would have had one this year. Do I think
the one I got probably at the Cafe and Bluff
was better the one at Cinnabond's probably. Anyway, we don't
know how much they cost, do we?

Speaker 4 (02:09:29):
Now?

Speaker 3 (02:09:29):
Where's that at?

Speaker 30 (02:09:29):
Though?

Speaker 3 (02:09:30):
I'm trying to find out cinnabon it's not at the
American one. Yeah, hawd to find ou how much that
out the Cinnabon website, because the website seems it's gonna
been a TechEd de dollar service attack. Go figure twenty
four to twelve. Way Wesley Marcus, Welcome, nice to hear

(02:09:50):
from you. Good evening.

Speaker 20 (02:09:52):
Hi.

Speaker 32 (02:09:52):
Yeah, I was interested in your conversation about the Cinnabon
company because I used to have them quite regularly as
a kid growing up in Chicago. Yes, and I because
they had a store in the local shopping ma or
where we lived, and they would actually make them fresh
in front of you when you ordered them.

Speaker 3 (02:10:15):
They sound quite nice.

Speaker 32 (02:10:18):
Well, the news the only ones that I've had over
the years don't compare, because when you've had something made
fresh in front of you, it tastes so much nicer
than what is available here.

Speaker 3 (02:10:33):
Okay, see's say the American one that cinnabonn is better
than the New Zealand cinnamon scroll.

Speaker 32 (02:10:39):
Yes, because they make it fresh.

Speaker 3 (02:10:41):
Okay, Well, I would think most of the bakeries in
Uzia would make them fresh, though, would they?

Speaker 32 (02:10:47):
A lot of them don't? Okay, very few bakeries in
New Zealand have the facilities to make them fresh, okay,
where with the Cinnabon company, that's that's their main business,
so that's how they draw the customers in.

Speaker 3 (02:11:05):
They speak, should I say that?

Speaker 13 (02:11:07):
Sure?

Speaker 32 (02:11:09):
And obviously the trademark discussion, these American companies will tend
to have a lot of money behind them, which is
a lot of reasons why New Zealand businesses that have
the same names in their products get told to seasonally
sat because they don't have the financials available to them
to or you know, secure the trademark. Yes, agreed, Okay,

(02:11:38):
I'm hopefully answered your questions that you've got tonight.

Speaker 3 (02:11:42):
Appreciate that, Wesley, thank you. I think I suspect right,
I don't know, I might be wrong on this. I
suspect that some Kiwi's probably thought the cinnamon scroll was
a New Zealand tradition like a New didan localized dish,
but actually it's probably a Scandinavian thing. I would think
that we've all made them at home economics at school.
Haven't we make a rolling to chop them up? It's

(02:12:04):
just a pastries and a flavored tasty with cinnamon. Oh yeah,
I might go and get one next time. I'm at
two double seven. They still call it there. I don't
think they do. Where it's called it two double seven.
The thing is now called west What do they call it?
We wi wear in Westfield to circus that place and

(02:12:26):
possible find any direction. Yeah, fancy that a eld cinnamon.
But old George passionate. You gonna like George's passion. You
want to leave the number with us, We're going to
do his bidding. God, it's hard enough getting a show
to wear a lit alone finding George's thing. I felt

(02:12:49):
bad getting on the phone number because then that was
became difficult to get the But anyway he got that
in the end. You don't call me sunshine cheap?

Speaker 13 (02:12:59):
Is that?

Speaker 3 (02:13:00):
I think that's a patronizing term. Is he look here, Sunshine?
It feels kind of slightly cress have doesn't look at
it sounds that sort of thing. Winston Peters would say,
look here's look here, Sunshine. I wasn't born used today
like some of you young journalists. Yeah, I don't like that.
Look here, Sunshine. Marcus George has no leg to stand

(02:13:26):
on a citabon as trademark, So there's nothing he can do, Marcus,
cinnabond buns is so sweet an American. It's good in
small doses. However, an entire serving of all make anyone sick.
See what I mean. They've managed to tell us this
says they're not the sausage power of marketing. They've given
us enough to talk about, but even you don't know
what or how good they are or what they cost.

(02:13:47):
Curiousity killed the cat. Tell you what I don't like?
The cooking so bad? It's Starbucks. I think that really
kind of put me off American pastries because Starbucks is
so dreadful. Curiosity killed the cat and great to see
the power of fomo style of marketing can get the

(02:14:08):
best of them best free marketing mode activated Americans the
best at marketing wherever it is. And we just love
the suspense. I've got zero interest in cinnabond, but I
will go next time I'm in the big Smoke, and
that could be within a month.

Speaker 1 (02:14:25):
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