I've never designed a mini golf course (19 December 2024)

Marcus covers two serious crashes in the South Island, and covers Liam Lawson becoming partnering Max Verstappen in 2025.

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Speaker 1 (00:07):
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Speaker 2 (00:11):
That'd be.

Speaker 3 (00:13):
Greetings, good evening, my name is Marcus. Welcome how I
I hope you're good where you are? Seven past nine.
Obviously two situations in the South Island are several fatalities
this afternoon or today on the South Island roads. Some
of you, most of you will be aware there is
a significant bus versus car extant State Highway six. They
say it's four and a half kilometers north of Kingston,

(00:36):
not quite as far north as the Devil's Elbow, but
between Kingston and the Devil's Elbow. So for those people
wanting to get from Tiano to Queenstown, or from Queenstown
to in Vicago or Tiano, you'll have a long diversion
or a long wait. The diversion will be hard to
know what to do. The diversion will be three hours
I think to go down as far as ed Trick

(00:59):
had doubled down through tapping and went around. So you've
got some thinking to do. Also, you might be waiting
in that traffic. You might have some comment on it.
For those that don't know the locality, this is the
bus versus the car accident that is south of Queenstown

(01:19):
on that windy road that goes alongside Lake Wakatippu. It's
a very popular road with buses because what happens is
people are crazy and mad to go and see Milford
Sounds and Mighty Peak and they leave a number of
buses in the morning from queens and they drive down

(01:40):
that very road past the Devil's Elbow, pass Kingston, around
the bottom of the lake, round through Tierno, then up
through the Milford Road to Milford Sounds to go out
on the boat and they turn they go out to
the ocean, they turn around and come back and they
get the bus trip the whole way back. So there's
certain times of the road in the morning and the afternoon,

(02:03):
certain times of the day when that road is very,
very busy with a lot of And yeah, I don't
know what your thoughts are. Obviously we don't know those
situations with this accident, but it's something that people have
always gone on and on about that it's part of
the roading, it's part of the infrastructure that's dangerous and
doesn't really cope. There were thoughts of a solution. They

(02:24):
were wanting to put a tunnel through up past Glenorki.
The nimbists got involved with that and said we don't
want cars or trucks going through Glenorky. So we're back
to the way it was. And it's dangerous because you've
got lot of cars on that road. They're driving up
from inver Cargo to Queenstown. There aren't many overtaking places,
and you know this time of the year and driving

(02:46):
is not always the best. So you might have some
information about that accident. You might let us know how
long you think you're going to be stuck for. You
might want some plans of alternate routes. You also might
want to comment about what they can do. So many
people want to go and see Milford Sound. I think
it's the most visited place in New Zealand, but it's

(03:07):
hard to get there. It requires a lot of buses
on a narrow road. So you got some comments on
that I'd like to hear from. You might have as
Marcus welcome. I'll also look at the NDTA website that
you know how long they think that's going to be
for before they actually can open that road. But six helicopters, Yeah,

(03:28):
and then I would imagine that you know, if they're
not sort of doing wreck recovery, there will also be
a serious cresh investigation that takes a long time. Also,
so I don't know what your plans are. If you
are stuck in traffic listening to this show, you might
have some duty us though we might be able to
provide some assistance. It says no detail available at appieces

(03:49):
of the accent. Happened about twelve past four. It's been
last update at six fifty four, so quite a serious situation.
If you want to comment on that some yeah, do
let me know. And also about driving the South Island

(04:10):
all these tour buses. Of course we don't know who's
fault is at the stage wait for the investigation. But
this is a commoner kind of an accident. There's excedents
involving busses of people, and I guess that's probably because
a lot more tourists are traveling in buses. A vercaution

(04:31):
not to apportion fault or blade. But yeah, do get
in touch of you want to talk about that. My
name's Marcus hddled twelfth, so certainly I'll give you updates
if we've got anything about that situation. Twenty people are
injured near this Devil's staircase. But it appears to be
from what I can tell, it appears to be south

(04:51):
of there, between there and Kingston. So hopefully they're turning
people back from actually for frankdin Arm, because it's a
long way down there to go that way and come back.
They're calling the they're calling the shop a riscue, a
very big job at a remote location. And it says

(05:12):
the road will remain closed well into the evening. There
is no diversion in place. There is an alternate available
route diverting via State Highway six, State Highway eight B,
State Higway eight, State Highway ninety, and State Higway ninety
four allow extra two and a half hours. It'd be

(05:37):
more than that, but two and a half hours, that's
what they're saying. I never know what's highways. Those are
State Higway ninety, State Higway eight B. I'll check that.
Get in touch. You might have some information about the
Canterbury situation as well. Oh eight hundred eighty ten eighty
and nine two nine to detext. Get in touch if
you want to talk Marcus too midnight. Oh, by the way,

(05:59):
did you tell me how much that train was costing Dan.
So they're bringing back the train between between christ Church
and Dneda and they've called it the Southern, but the
Southern and we had all the way to win for Cargoll.
So it's a train from christ Church to Dunedin. They're
bringing it back for like four days. Guess how much
it's gonna cost. Would you think it'll be sixty dollars?

(06:21):
Really be eighty dollars to go from christ Church to
the need and bear in mind not very scenic. Only
gets good once you go through Moachy up to then
you're just driving down the plane. How much you think
it'd be eighty bucks? Ninety bucks? Sure, it couldn't be
one hundred bucks? Would it be each way? This is

(06:43):
each way two hundred and forty nine. No, in fact
that starts at two four nine. I'm not quite sure
if that's one way or return. But that's a lot
of money. God, Dora mea. So I don't know what
they I don't even know why they're doing it. Get

(07:05):
people off their backs. So, yes, Greta Valley, there's a
State Higway one. There's a serious extent there and also
that very serious extent State Highway six north of Kingston
south of Frankton. Not quite at the Devil's Staircase, but

(07:25):
kind of you know the drill. Get in touch by names, Marcus, Welcome,
heedd on midnighte it's likely to be closed well into
the evening. Nine ambulances and seven helicopters and a firefighter

(07:45):
has told someone that the road would be closed overnight,
and I believe that's probably likely. So if you've got
any thoughts about that also, I'm get in touch.

Speaker 4 (07:59):
Oh.

Speaker 3 (07:59):
The other good news is too there's fun and it's
this a bit of a South Island traffic show. The
other good thing is they have confirmed funding for Ashburton's
second bridge. Simeon Brown Transports pronounce dated that the government
would pay for a bridge across the Eshburton River from
charmers Av to Carter's Terrace and the council would pay

(08:26):
for the new correct connecting road on the tin Wood side.
Worker is expected to begin in twenty twenty six. So
need of that because trucks were waiting for about oh
I think about forty minutes to get through that town.
So I think we're kind of excited about that. Charmers Av.
I look at that on the map it's all happening.

(08:47):
So yeah, I don't know quite why that took so long.
So I'm looking at Charmers Av on the old Maparouni.
It seems to be three blocks on the seaward side
of the current bridge. Looks like a perfect place to

(09:08):
put it, three blocks in the southeast direction. So if
you're nash Burton, you might think of this as worthy
of a party. You might live nearby, you might do
something around that. Also, by the way, there was something
about minigolf happening. Also, what was that they're going to
get minigolf? This is a strange story. Fresh Burton councilors

(09:34):
have given the green light to constructing an eighteen hole
mini golf course at the AA Network Center. Maximum budget
half a million. There you go, a great attraction for
the town in addition to the sport and recreations need
to area. They got money from the Long Term Funds.

(09:56):
Initial concept drawings for the mini golf course included themed
holes with features drawn from the Ashburton district like Stavely
Ice Drink, Mountain, Hart Lake, hod Rakaia Salmon's sculpture, the
town clock and the agricultural sector. Free for golfers rather
right equipment in a low cost actor for those that

(10:18):
need to hire clubs and bulls from the A network seed.
There is no there is no ball capture on the
final hole. Are you gotta meagine to counsel now, should
we do a ball capture on the fight? Well, considering
that some people are providing their own balls. Being Marcus welcome, you.

Speaker 5 (10:34):
Get at Marcus, that train that you're talking about. The
proposal from christ a need hum for two fifty That
sounds pretty pretty reasonable because it's the same as the
one from christ is depict in and the christ Chairs
the West Coast. It's the same price that I think
for memory, they're about two hundred and fifty bucks each.

Speaker 3 (10:55):
Yeah, but.

Speaker 5 (10:57):
Frances, though, you've got all the scenic group through Kakura
there and then all the scene that group, you know,
as all as the West host, and I don't know
what you've got between christ Church and Dana. There's you know,
there's not a heck of lot compared to the other
two routes.

Speaker 3 (11:11):
There's nothing And I can't work out there's nothing. Any
of the media tell why they've brought it back.

Speaker 5 (11:17):
Well, it is nice to go on there and you know,
have a teaze board and a beer and stuff, so
you know it's a days outing and that it seems
quite expensive for you know, Duneians Cross, which one night
I would have thought there would have been a lot cheaper.

Speaker 3 (11:31):
Yeare'd just be some bucket listers and box tickers?

Speaker 6 (11:34):
No one?

Speaker 3 (11:34):
I mean, I mean you get you get down and
get stuck without a car. Also got to bounce around
and needing for a while. How are you going to
get back home?

Speaker 5 (11:42):
I think the beauty about about the the Needian one
is you know fights between Doneenian Cross, which quite reasonable.

Speaker 3 (11:49):
Compared to you know, train train down, fly back. Yeah,
you're you're not a likely taker, are you being?

Speaker 7 (11:58):
No?

Speaker 5 (11:58):
I've been on the other two and that was baby
basically because the boss sheltered us for really yeah, well
I think my wife paid four that picked them one
and you're the boss out of the West Coast one,
so maybe a couple of years ago now. But yeah,
other than I probably wouldn't be interested in paying because
it didn't need in one. You know, maybe if it
was eighty bucks or something that year, but not not

(12:19):
at two fifty.

Speaker 3 (12:20):
Well, it doesn't become a s because I'm trying to
bring back the Southerner as a serious transport option. But
at that price, but you get the loser cruise of
the bus. That'd be sixty bucks, wouldn't it.

Speaker 5 (12:30):
Yeah, yeah, and it's you know, I think caught off.
A flight's between Dneian crosses about a hundred bucks.

Speaker 3 (12:35):
A right, good point. You've really good. But you can't
complice with You can't complete with flights, can you.

Speaker 5 (12:39):
No, no, no.

Speaker 3 (12:40):
And that's a good point because you can't really fly
Christ Judge, you picked it, but can certainly fly Christ
Judge Dunedin.

Speaker 5 (12:47):
Yeah, yeah, and it might maybe if we went to
mccago design even fights between where it used to go
and Cagle and cross Church. Jesus, there'd be about two
fifty three hundred or you know, on a bad day.

Speaker 3 (13:01):
So you're nice to talking. Thanks for kicking that off.
Oh wait, one hundred and eighty eight. My name is
Mike's welcome. Any other breaking news will bring that to
your back at you. If you've got breaking news yourself,
let us know what you've got looking for. Traffic updates
to several serious extents are both fatals in the south
are with major diversions in place. I don't even know

(13:24):
what to say about the major diversions. I mean, it's
all terrible with the excedents as well, but we are
we do have highways that are prone to that, aren't
we They can't really build roads around that just in case.
But yeah, I don't even know what to say about that.
So the latest I've got for the serious crash two

(13:45):
vehicles tatoi Wan near Gritta Valley, south of the Huda
Nui River bridge seven fifteen. Speaking of bridges, also can
to get some talking about the Oh earthquake, Blenham just
heard now heard it coming really flip We've got an
earthquake and Blenham, I'll just go to g O Neet
to check the drums on that one. So normally get

(14:07):
more than one pero. Oh yes, I can see it
now for your earthquakes, light earthquake a minute ago to
three point nine fifteen, Kay's west of Picton a minute ago.
It's been widely felt. People have felt it in christ Church,
people felt it in Wellington, people have felt it in

(14:28):
Tarcica and in Farewell Spit twenty eight past nine, Simon
Marcus could Simon Marcus, good evening.

Speaker 6 (14:37):
Hi.

Speaker 8 (14:37):
I only just switched on and I was heard the
last guy talking about the rail from Duned and the
christ Church and not that scenic. Has you actually been
on it, it's very scenic.

Speaker 3 (14:48):
Well, hang on, Simon, north of north of Moroarchy, it's
just through the planes. Is not much going on at all.

Speaker 8 (14:57):
No, you did, right. But the longest part of the
journey is to get to Maraki as far as speed
goes and kilometers. So their first part is quite a highlight.

Speaker 3 (15:07):
You lay back and you mean between Dunedin and Monarchy.

Speaker 8 (15:11):
Yeah, yeah, that's the slightest part of the ride by
a long shot. It's quite a long time to get
to that point. It straightens out.

Speaker 3 (15:18):
You wouldn't say it's overly scenic. I mean you go
around the harbor to Port Charmers and your bend through
a tunnel.

Speaker 8 (15:26):
The tunnel is not very long.

Speaker 3 (15:27):
No, no, well, as far as tunnels go, it's it'd
be one of the top ten longest.

Speaker 8 (15:37):
In New Zealand, which is not very long. But what
I'm getting at is that's the slightest part of the journey.
So you get on the train, you enjoy a nice
scenic route all the way through to Maraki, which is
quite slow winding around past the Seacliff and Warrington and
you know it's pretty beautiful looking out from high out
down on the coast.

Speaker 3 (15:57):
I mean, but it's not the trans ol point though,
is it, Simon?

Speaker 8 (16:02):
Well, the thing that no, No, but it's it is
very scenic for a start, and that's the exciting part.
Once you get through that part of the journey, then
you're ready for your food and your body drinks and
relax and you know, train speeds up and off you go.
But I mean it is it is quite a nice ride,
and so yeah, that's what my argument was. There is

(16:22):
a center part to it, and you're not looking out
the window the whole time. So the start of the
journey is good and nice. Then you're settled and you
have your food, carry on, relax, and then you're there so.

Speaker 3 (16:35):
Nice to talk Tom and thanks so much. Well they
keep your inputs coming through people. Eight hundred and eighty
d eighty Marcus is the train stop at Mortarchy for
the truistic I don't think so. I wouldn't imagine. So
I don't even know where the stations are. I don't
think it would stop at Monarchy. I mean I don't
think probably who knows who actually knows getting touch people.

(17:00):
My name is Marcus Welcome. As I say, oh, eight
hundred and eighty ten eighty of rick about the Ashburton
Council themselves are paying half a million for mini golf
course featuring some of the local landmarks. I don't know

(17:22):
what they are. There are some real hazards when you
design mini golf. I'm not throwing I'm just trying to
think what they are. But certainly, yeah, you want to
put some thought into that, you know, I do get
in touched you on talk one of is Marcus welcome,
But also to the situation with so many busses on

(17:43):
that road between christ Church and Tiana, which they never
managed to seem to be able to come up with
a solution. And now I've got a situation with a
bit of every serious bus accident. Whether they were going
to Tiano and on to Milford Sound, I don't know,
but between the Devil's Staircase and Kingston is where the

(18:03):
accent happened. dB. It's Marcus welcome and good evening.

Speaker 9 (18:08):
Good evening. Although I've rung up to talk about the
Milford Road, I've got a little bit of a previous
topic for you're wondering about the Jones and America. Yes,
earlier in the week, well, in nineteen forty five, the
US battleship New York saw what it thought was a

(18:30):
Japanese spy balloon, which they opened fire upon until the
navigating officer And yeah, the navigating officer wandered up to
see what all the noise was about and suggested that
trying to shoot Venus out of the sky was not
going to work through. So, yeah, in America, I suspect
the same thing is happening. People are looking at the

(18:52):
sky for the first time. Some people have reported the
stars of Orion, the Fenus is low in the sky
that can be quite bright, blah blah blah blah blah.

Speaker 3 (19:03):
Yeah, yeah, and that seems to be what most of
the serious analysis that I have read alludes to the
fact that people are looking to the sky that don't
normally look to the sky and see things are not
normally seeing. Plus, I suppose a lot more droned than
the sky just doing drony kind of boring stuff. Maybe
I don't.

Speaker 9 (19:21):
Know, and you know, just normal aircraft going about their business.
So but anyway, having driven the Queenstown Milford Queenstown route
on too many occasions for my meet to enjoy with
a full size two of us.

Speaker 10 (19:43):
That is.

Speaker 9 (19:47):
Spectacorally tricky drive. You get into the Milford Road south
north of Tianaw, and people don't leave themselves enough time
to get to Milford. They go it's only a hundred
comes to do them there.

Speaker 3 (20:03):
And dB I don't want to be the interrupting guy,
but just I think Google Maps tells them it's an't
he going to take that long?

Speaker 9 (20:11):
That wouldn't surprise it. There's a big sign that that
says about two hours. But I often had people overtake
me in some brave places, only to get in behind
the next bus in front of me. So sometimes it
be a one hundred buses a day in each direction

(20:32):
because every bus they went in had to come home again.
And I can't help but feel that. There was a
proposal to put an aerial ropeway from Queenstown to Milford,
which is about sixty kilometers long. Have again the Nimby's

(20:52):
got a hold of that and they turned it down.
But these things, once they're built, all right, there's a
little bit of interruption while you build it an aerial ropeway,
But once they're up, they're quiet, they don't annoy the
local animals, and the scenery would be spectecular, so steep.

Speaker 3 (21:11):
It must be a challenging day for the tour driver.
Queenstown to Milford six.

Speaker 11 (21:17):
Or five hours, five hours.

Speaker 3 (21:20):
And then and then you're having a break or you
go out on the boat with your tourists.

Speaker 9 (21:25):
Oh no, I only went out on the boat once.

Speaker 3 (21:27):
Okay, so you put your feet you put your feet
up and you have a cup and then you So
it's another five hours in the afternoon as well.

Speaker 9 (21:34):
Yeah, by the time you're getting halfway to Gaston, say
your passengers have had enough, had five hours to get there,
you know, looking forward to it. And now they've had
three hours and the bus with two hours still to
go and they are just had enough, and so's the driver.

(21:58):
It like I learned very quickly. I can't have lunch
in Milford otherwise you start getting droopy on the way home. Yeah,
it is a tough, tough road and you're talking. It's
a sizeable bus. I see the pod from the accident.
It's a little coast. Towing a trailer and even those

(22:22):
ones requires a relative amount of skill and you only
have to have someone on the Devil's Highway, catch someone
on the wrong side of the road or overtaking the
wrong place. Not a lot of places to duck.

Speaker 3 (22:36):
So just when you were doing that drive, DV because
not if we get someone in the bread box so
quickly that's done. That were you experienced a lot of
people and I've got no idea what causes. Excellent because
we'll wait for the investigation. But we're a lot of
just people in cars doing crazy overtakings and crazy maneuvers.
Of you when you did that ten hour.

Speaker 9 (22:55):
Drive, mostly yeah, because going towards Wilford, a lot of
people were getting into time trouble. Yeah, they're getting behind
the eight ball thinking that it's an easy road, which
of course it isn't. And then of course they get
to the home a tunnel and catch a red light
for twenty minutes, yes, and just drives the nuts. I

(23:18):
used to make a point of being the last bus
down the tunnel. I didn't have anybody trying to overtake
me because I can only go down the hill at
about thirty kilometers an hour.

Speaker 3 (23:29):
So I think you and I can agree that it's
a really dangerous piece of road. The demand for Milford
sounds increasing because people love it. Instagram goes right into it,
and there's going to be more and more extent down
there because there's no solution for this, is there that
unless they start staying in Tiana, which I never want
to because they're all booked into Queenstown, aren't they.

Speaker 9 (23:48):
Well, a good trip for me is was a stay
in tian now and doing Tianna Milford, Tianaw because it
took the load not only off of me but off
of our passengers. Yes, because even then, you know, you're
talking four hours of bus trip, two hours of boat trip.
That's starting to get a long day.

Speaker 3 (24:07):
Okay. Really good to talk to you, ye, really good
to talk to your dB. I appreciate that there's some
canvas that extremely well nineteen to nine and just I'm
saying that we have no idea what's caused as extent,
but as an accident in an area whereas as dB
sit one hundred buses twice a day down a really
winding it's a good road, but it's a well she's

(24:27):
a convent. I mean, they've got the Devil's staircase for
a reason. And then you get someone over take, and
you also get a lot of people hiring vans and
cars and stuff. You know, who might who might be tired,
who might be party type people. On the camp of
vent holiday, you see some pretty bad driving. I've never

(24:49):
seen bad driving. I've done that road a lot. I've
never seen bad driving from the buses, never, but I've
seen a lot of bad overtaking on that road. And
there you go, I might becoming one of those traffic
balls that goes on about how bad drivers are, but
on that road sometimes it's terrible. I thought TV when

(25:09):
he talked about that, Bob was going to start talking
about the FuGO balloon bombs. It's a pretty amazing story.
A those paper balloons of Japanese send across the start
fires in America and it worked. Hi, Joe Marcus, welcome.

Speaker 12 (25:21):
Oh this was merry Christmas, heavy New Year. But I
want to talk about this the road accidents, and I've
experienced driven all over the South on at a different time,
but I find that the these car drivers are a

(25:44):
lot of them, not all of them, but a lot
of them have got these modern cars that are very
very quick, and when they come up there's not mant
any places to pass, and they get impatient with especially
if they're sitting behind a bus and can't get past it,

(26:04):
and finally they they move out and posited the wrong
place and wrong time. And that's why I think there's
so many accidents.

Speaker 3 (26:17):
Joe. Are you familiar with the concept of Google Maps? Oh?

Speaker 12 (26:26):
Not really.

Speaker 3 (26:28):
So a lot of drivers now have something on their
phone called Google Maps.

Speaker 12 (26:35):
That's right, what.

Speaker 3 (26:37):
I think they'll do. People will be driving from saying
where about to you? Are you in Auckland?

Speaker 6 (26:41):
No?

Speaker 12 (26:43):
Okay, my son's got all the mod gone.

Speaker 3 (26:46):
Stuff, but some of it doesn't drive.

Speaker 12 (26:51):
He's got a he hasn't got a pawerful cars you know,
a small car is not fairful, just the same as
I have.

Speaker 3 (27:02):
But he han't got a powerful car.

Speaker 12 (27:07):
Oh he doesn't need one.

Speaker 3 (27:09):
Sounds it sounds sensible, Joe.

Speaker 6 (27:12):
But he.

Speaker 12 (27:14):
Driver very very sensitively. He didn't see you around the
city here, even you're getting the many actually go through
stop signs and look you got the boy racers every
bride and said deny it around the city.

Speaker 3 (27:31):
And the point I was making with Google Maps, right
like your son knows about if you're going to drive
from say you're in christ Church to let's say Hoka
ticker and you put on Google Maps you want to
go from christ Church to Hoka ticker, it'll show you
the root you and I know what the route is,
but it'll also show you how long it'll take. And

(27:51):
there is a thought that people think, oh, well, if
they're not going to do it in that time, they're
not a good driver. So it seems as though Google
Maps puts unrealistic time pressures on them. If you understand
that concept.

Speaker 12 (28:03):
Yeah, yeah, no, it's very sad. The drivers today are
just crazy, especially the younger ones.

Speaker 3 (28:13):
Well a younger drive. I don't know if the death
stets back up, it mainly the younger people. I don't
even know which is the group that dies the most.
Do you know the answer to that?

Speaker 12 (28:27):
No?

Speaker 3 (28:28):
No, he always blames the young people.

Speaker 12 (28:32):
All I know is that there's a lot of powerful
cars around these days, and and they seem to go
from the powerful one and a lot of young guys.
But my sons thirty eight on the last of this year,
he's thirty eight. He's never had a powerful car.

Speaker 3 (28:51):
Never.

Speaker 12 (28:52):
No, see, he doesn't want to drive fast. I told
him to drive when he was just a teenager.

Speaker 3 (29:02):
And what car, what card?

Speaker 12 (29:05):
Your teacher and uh a, uh what a Ford Cortina.

Speaker 3 (29:14):
Oh you're the old Cortina Jore. Nice to talk to.
Thank you, Karen as Marcus. Welcome, good evening.

Speaker 13 (29:20):
Hi, how are you good?

Speaker 3 (29:21):
Thanks Karen? What can you tell me?

Speaker 14 (29:27):
Yeah?

Speaker 15 (29:28):
So I was caught up in that accident, the awful
accident of the Devil's staircase, and like many others, I've
just made the decision to drive the long way because
it was tough to be there and it was.

Speaker 16 (29:45):
Clear that it was going to be a long night.

Speaker 14 (29:47):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (29:51):
Were you driving south from Queenstown?

Speaker 10 (29:53):
Were you?

Speaker 16 (29:55):
So?

Speaker 15 (29:56):
I was driving back to Queenstown from and the Cardinal.

Speaker 3 (29:59):
Okay, so you waited for a while and then decided
to turn around?

Speaker 6 (30:02):
Is that right trick?

Speaker 15 (30:04):
Yeah, that's right.

Speaker 3 (30:05):
Okay, you still drive now? I gather, yes, Yeah, okay.
It seems like the right thing to do because it
seems as though the word is the road's going to
be closed overnight. So and there are a lot of
cars decided to do it was that much communication.

Speaker 7 (30:19):
Yeah.

Speaker 15 (30:19):
Look, the Friends communications person came down the line of
cars and she was great telling us what she was
able to tell us. Yes, and then I guess that
was estimate one and a half to two hours, Yes,
out of delay, and that was that. That was at

(30:42):
four thirty, so only really twenty minutes after was yeah.

Speaker 3 (30:48):
And then all the choppers started arriving. By then, Karen yes.

Speaker 15 (30:52):
To topers landed. I waited till about five Yes, and
I was just turn and chops by the time.

Speaker 6 (31:05):
I left.

Speaker 15 (31:07):
JA Yeah, okay, yeah, and that we've got around a
couple of straight trucks that were trying to tune around,
and they were saying, just keep just tune around.

Speaker 16 (31:20):
And go home, you know, don't quite all.

Speaker 15 (31:23):
I slaked a couple down to.

Speaker 16 (31:24):
Just give you the spect open.

Speaker 3 (31:26):
Yeah.

Speaker 15 (31:26):
They were saying, it's going to be all night.

Speaker 8 (31:28):
You know.

Speaker 15 (31:29):
You can just feel it. It's in the ear, you know.

Speaker 3 (31:34):
Yeah, And I appreciate you coming through. Karen thinks it's
going to tell short it's Marcus.

Speaker 13 (31:38):
Welcome, good evening one, John or can I stand there
a negro?

Speaker 3 (31:42):
Yes, thank you, welcome.

Speaker 17 (31:46):
I took a Comma van when the Education Department was
showing them at two and three hundred dollars each. I
bought five, put one together and took four adults and
one six year old boy down to Norford no problem.
Or but coming up the hill beyond that's lowered down
in the chasm, the dancing wouldn't have enough powder to

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turn the wheels over. I had to go up backwards.

Speaker 10 (32:11):
So.

Speaker 17 (32:13):
I had to go right up to the tunnel entrance.

Speaker 18 (32:16):
Where did you.

Speaker 3 (32:18):
Did you have to reverse? Did you have to reverse up?

Speaker 17 (32:21):
Who you know where the corner is to the reservoir. Yes,
I used to go into the reservoir corner and go
up backwards all the wout Bluff hill.

Speaker 3 (32:29):
Common van what did what did the education department have
Comma vans? Why did they have common line busses?

Speaker 17 (32:40):
Line busses? They had line busses that bring the kids
out to the main route, kids through Winton, all the
built up areas with school goodness. And I sprayed the
toxic highway. And I was one of the guys that
worked on the willows at Downs in seventy nine and

(33:01):
I was in on the Milford track at Clinton Forks
when that quake hit. I was with the Vic Potts
who was a farmer, used to come down and take
over the hut in the summer months. You know hut
warden Yep, great job. And we were in the hut
when that thing hit. We ran outside.

Speaker 3 (33:21):
Which which quake are we're talking? Which quake are we talking?

Speaker 19 (33:29):
Which one quake?

Speaker 17 (33:31):
The northfold track here couldn't walk, so to first start
up from great House.

Speaker 3 (33:36):
Which earthquake are we talking about?

Speaker 17 (33:38):
Sean Ah, that's the one that hit in seventy nine.
When we go down to take over the huts and
get them titivated up for the loopies coming in open
the loopy season, I mean sorry, the tourist season.

Speaker 6 (33:53):
Was a big one.

Speaker 3 (33:54):
Was a big quake.

Speaker 17 (33:57):
Yes, it was quite large, but they downgraded it because
they didn't want to put the Loopies off. Out of
the tourist off.

Speaker 3 (34:03):
You got some good expressions, say it doesn't do you.

Speaker 17 (34:07):
Well. I was three months off twenty four years in Fjordland.
I went down there twist. I was a protester against
anti Vietnam. I went to Wellington when they were going
to pull down eight hundred buildings in ten years to
get on the high window cleaning side of it because
of the big money. Because I've been a seaman and

(34:28):
I couldn't make up the money ashore and go to
varsity at Nice. So when high window cleaning went down
to Wellington, my father gave me an urgent call. Onder,
you better get out of here. I've got something urgent
to tell you. I returned to Auckland, went up to
TIDERINGI to his home, went into his study and he
should sit down. I sat down, and he said, you
know they came and got me at ten o'clock in

(34:49):
the morning to become General Freiberg's ready a telephonist and
translator during World War II. They're coming for you, boy,
I said, well, four, He said, we're not doing too
good in Vietnam. I think they might bring in a draft.
All my mates in the army say we're going to
bring in a draft?

Speaker 2 (35:06):
Was he was?

Speaker 3 (35:07):
He still military Mexico.

Speaker 17 (35:10):
He said, no, get into Fjordland. Do the gold like
I've taught you. I said, how do I fund my
stay in Fjordland? He said, shoot the bloody deer. Bring
the deer out for them, and it'll pay for your
working with the gold.

Speaker 3 (35:22):
Did you get on the gold ounce?

Speaker 17 (35:25):
Now we got thirty five toy ouncers. I can't tell
you where where about.

Speaker 3 (35:32):
We're kind of really.

Speaker 17 (35:37):
I was working with X matches. They had come to.

Speaker 3 (35:41):
Okay, that's I've got to go to do. But this
is kind of a loose discussion. But thank you. I'd
like to read your book, but I like to fetch
you your talk about call.

Speaker 10 (35:54):
Ooh.

Speaker 3 (35:56):
So far it's been a bit of a driving themed
show tonight, entirely appropriate given what tapped on the roads today.
Fear of discussion led by from the unrealisticness of Google
Maps and the times they give for some journeys. I
don't know what the solution is for that, but probably

(36:18):
if I was a driver and I'm thinking, gee, I
should be going a bit quicker because Google Map says
I do it in this time. Do you want to
say something about that? Get in touch. Oh eight hundred
and eighty Italian nine two nine to dix one. Name
is markets Edile twelve, looking forward to what you've got
to say. By the way, the BBC is reporting that
Giselle Pilicore is arriving at court chief the woman whose

(36:40):
husband is up on all those charges for drugging her.
The sentencing for that is today. The wife is arriving
at court surrounded by a huge media contingent. That'll be
a big news story. That's happening as we speak. The
verdicture for the fifty one men. In that case, some

(37:01):
texts Marcus, wasn't there a movement pre covetable a monorail
on the Queenstown Milford Road. It would make better sense
to scrap the terrace White Elephant Airport and do the monorail,
better travel time experience for everyone, Steve. There were two plans.
One plan involved a ferry and cable cars and a

(37:24):
monorail I think, and it went through Tiana. The other
one was just straight up with a tunnel from Glenorky
coming out near the Homer Tunnel. They were both I
don't know if it was at the planning stage Environmental Corp.
But they both got they both didn't happen. I think
with the tunnel they couldn't work out to put all

(37:46):
the dirt from the tunnel. That's quite a big deal,
huge amount of earth you've got to dump, which I
don't think about when tunneling, do you. Marcus heard that
chap talking about crazy overtaking. Yesterday south of Ashburton the
traffic was bumper to bump. We got to the passing

(38:08):
lane and Lord Mark from way back and his range
drove asides to pass when there is nowhere for him
to get back, and just before the passing lane ends,
he breaks hard, then indicates and cuts me off. Silly,
arrogant man with family in the car. I just shook
my head. Don was always at Joko a range drover

(38:29):
in a head CHOLG. Remember that one? Yeah, google it, Marcus.
Why did you stop him? I could have listened to
him all night we started in French. That's what freaked
me out. Google Earth shows I to do it to
Willington as a five and a half hour drive and

(38:51):
oversees two company us this numbered planet bus itinery. When
I explained to the in country guy that the bus
would take six and a half hours NonStop but realistically
seven and a half with comfort stops, I was accused
of dragging the chain took eight hours with very unhappy customers.
So it's all about It's all about traffic and driving.

(39:14):
And because we are going to the season of a
lot of new drivers on the New Zealand roads, some
won't be experienced with the conditions and a lot more
traffic on the roads. It's been a terrible start. The
road toll hasn't started yet, but three deaths today and
twenty people injured. Five helicopters faring people away getting touched.

(39:37):
My name's Marcus Headl twelve twelve past nine, Look for
to your calls. Also talking about oshburt in the second bridge.
Been a long time coming, the second bridge. The government's
going to pay for the bridge and the council is
going to pay for the road to the bridge. And

(40:00):
the road is crossing charmers have. It'll go past the
Scout Hall. Is there still a Scout Hall? Mania Uto
Scout Park. It will go past there, over the river,
then there'll be a new road. Pretty interesting. Get in

(40:21):
touch by name's Marcus. Welcome you. Anything else you want
to bang on about tonight be good. And also ash
Burton's getting a council funded mini golf course, go figure.
I wonder who they're going to get to design it.
I've never designed a mini golf course. However, I sometimes

(40:48):
think there's some wasted opportunities. I sometimes think they could
be more adventurous with some of the courses. That's just me.
She's still walking to the court. It's extraordinary the amount
of media for the sentencing, and in France it's a

(41:10):
slow walk with hundreds of people filming her. Good evening,
Garriot's Marcus, welcome here again.

Speaker 14 (41:17):
But I'm ringing on a good subject tonight. The I
live in Ashburt and the old Ashburton Bridge is going
to be about two blocks from where I live, going
right down the avenue. You know, it's well well needed
because the main street in Eshburton like the traffic, and
the traffic can be backed up from the top of

(41:38):
racecourse railers. You come into Eshburton down we Street and
the cars are backed up for about five miles and
they just go snail's pace.

Speaker 3 (41:47):
No surprise. Where the bridge is going is that where
it was always expected to go. Nothing controversial about that.

Speaker 14 (41:53):
Now it'll go. So what you'll do is you'll turn
off at the best way probably the area, is to
turn off past the mobile garage and go about three
hundred meters left and then you'll just turn on to
the avenue and then you'll go through the Netherbe shopping center,
which I which should imagine when the new bridge goes in,

(42:16):
you'll be happy to have a business there.

Speaker 3 (42:18):
Okay, So it's got a good it's not going to
destroy your property. It's a good thing.

Speaker 10 (42:21):
Right.

Speaker 14 (42:22):
I'm about two blocks back from the chart from Charmers
Avenue say, yeah, it'll be it'll be good for the
shopping center up there, because it's been a bit of
a ghost town over the last few years.

Speaker 3 (42:35):
Okay, and how about the other side of the bridge.

Speaker 14 (42:39):
Well, I imagine it'll take it will take a lot
of the traffic. But as I said to your East
Street which is the main street, and then you've got
West Street which is the bier the bypass. The traffic's
just diabolical, you know. You no wonder people get frustrated
because it cars backed up for about five miles over
Christmas period. I imagine it's going to be a lot of

(42:59):
frustrated drivers going through Ashburton at Christmas time.

Speaker 3 (43:02):
So yeah, a pretty good fish and chip shop the
nether be one, would it?

Speaker 14 (43:07):
Oh yeah, that's all right. So like anything there days,
the price of fish has gone up.

Speaker 3 (43:11):
I think last time we talked fish and chips of
the ashburt and one of the people raving out the
one the other side of the bridge.

Speaker 14 (43:18):
Oh timbl here, that'll be in Timble. Do you know
that goes pretty good?

Speaker 16 (43:23):
Yeah?

Speaker 3 (43:23):
Okay, that's good to tell. Gery always liked to hear
someone Johnny on the spot when it comes to the bridge.
Wasn't quite sure what to ask him us about the bridge.
I think it's probably pretty standard those bridges on those
braided river beds. You don't need to a message. I
mean it's never it's never going to be. You don't
have a messive kind of a arch bridge. I think

(43:44):
it's pretty standard. You put the footing right across into
the gravel. I think it's pretty straightforward. Someone might know
Chris Marcus.

Speaker 20 (43:54):
Welcome old the guy I was talking about passing lanes
and all sorts of things.

Speaker 10 (44:03):
You can be.

Speaker 20 (44:04):
Fine, but I think some of them career me for
doing less than ten cases than the speed limit. And
I'm wondering if people should produce more passing lanes and
then find people for not mising them.

Speaker 3 (44:21):
Who are you finding that? I thought you wanted people
weren't going faster from the lanes, but you want people
to be fine for not using them? Right?

Speaker 16 (44:27):
Yeah?

Speaker 21 (44:28):
Yeah?

Speaker 3 (44:29):
Who would you find?

Speaker 14 (44:31):
What?

Speaker 20 (44:31):
You don't you have to pick on me? They'd been
doing going past passing lanes, doing eighty or nighting area,
So then you find them and then they don't do
it so much?

Speaker 3 (44:44):
Can your phone a bit better?

Speaker 10 (44:47):
Sorry?

Speaker 3 (44:47):
I'm going well, who do you want to find? The
people going too slow? Endlessly? Were gone gone? Who do
you want to find? Are they going slow? And then

(45:14):
when they get the passing lane they've done it? Ah,
they're annoying. They need assessment. Those sorts of people, they've
got problems beyond just driving. They're crazy. Yeah, padon, you
have done that, so you go. And then when you
come to the passing layer you get we are bad days. Yeah,
get it back and well yeah, yeah, I don't want

(45:35):
to talk a little bit more about this. Hold your
horse's back. I see you there, I see you. So, Chris,
if I got this right, You want to find people
that are driving like eighty all the time, but when
they get to a passing lane area they speed up.
Are they are the people you don't like?

Speaker 2 (45:53):
Well, I don't like they either. But if they find
them for doing you know, they did more policing on
people driving really slowly and not pulling over. I mean,
then they provide them with passing lanes, you know, buys
or something so that they could fall over get out
of the traffic, and they didn't use them, and then
they'd be doubly five because they ain't doing less than

(46:15):
the tim tim kay's out of the speed limit and
they won't use the layby. I get so sick of
people crawling along and it's greats frustration, especially for younger drivers,
as you know, they want to get somewhere.

Speaker 3 (46:28):
I hate to say about sometimes sometimes I drive to work, right,
I put my carat auto and just put on nineteen
boyts a relexing drive to work. Is it bad for
me to falling in love with driving at ninety ks?

Speaker 10 (46:41):
Oh?

Speaker 2 (46:41):
I think so?

Speaker 3 (46:42):
No, No, no, it's much slower, it's real relaxing. My
reaction times are a lot better at ninety k's.

Speaker 2 (46:49):
Yeah, well that'll be all right as long as you
were consistent. They went holding up to traffic. But if
you want to do that, and you know, if someone's
sitting up to jumper, you pull over.

Speaker 3 (46:59):
Brilliant see jumper and pull over and you see that.
Guys did that. I thought that was clever. That was Chris.
Be curious from here from you who you'd like to
find on the roads, who you'd like them to police better?
Twenty three to nine. Mark Marcus welcome.

Speaker 21 (47:17):
Certainly, not somebody taking your time getting to the venue
when you've got three weeks to do it with them.
I'm not in any hurry to get anywhere I need
to get in the next few days. And I think
everybody el should have the same metitude. Just chill, Just
try going eighty case to going, Ok, the cares you're
still going in the same direction.

Speaker 3 (47:38):
Exactly where are you hitting for?

Speaker 10 (47:43):
Well?

Speaker 21 (47:43):
Actually I don't have to go too far, thankfully, I'm
just I'm in the Cambridge. Yeah, I have to go
to I'm going to forget the name of it, between
a place called Woodlands.

Speaker 3 (47:58):
Did the old Woodlands? Never heard of it?

Speaker 21 (48:02):
Yeah? Yeah, I forget out between Myrin's villein's Outbrea area,
I think so hidding me to myadge see the family,
haven't seen them in a while. But the car was
a mission today. The rare tail light sustained some damage

(48:23):
the other day. And sort of realized to myself the
car is twenty two years old draws a bit of attention,
and the fact that it is twenty two years old
and it may not be old standard. So I run
up to the VTN did this morning, get there at
set five past seven. There's already four people at in
front of hoping dirty a busy day. We get in

(48:48):
there and i'd repair it gone and got an the
appropriate tape and put it in place, hopefully to get through.
And it did, thankfully. But I was informed by by
the local fellows. If everything's good except your rear right
break hands worn down and she's not not not legal.

(49:10):
Oh Jesus, all right, Repco super Chip Auto. Don't stop anymore.
They tell me one place, run down there. This is
all happening just after eight fifteen in the morning. So
by eight forty five I met the wody knows it
be into the automotive who are doing the break. They

(49:32):
give me the pads. I run to the local mechanic.
I'm standing there asking them bigging honor, Christian charity, Christians.

Speaker 3 (49:42):
You know the guys. He go, you know my first name?
Basis is here made of yours? Or are you company?

Speaker 21 (49:48):
We've lived in the same community for a long time
and he.

Speaker 11 (49:53):
Does.

Speaker 21 (49:53):
Look I've been a couple of graand with him in
the last yeah, yeah, yeah. So you had your car
here six weeks ago to get the well, thinking about
what did you do?

Speaker 10 (50:05):
I thought it would be.

Speaker 21 (50:07):
Okay? Can you ever even want one? One pm? Oh? Greg,
So run around and get a few other things done. Thankfully,
get it up there. He rings me quarter to two.
Drop it at one quarter to two, get to call
back up there. I met Waff again at two thirty
by three. It's done, Chips, It's done. Miracle. No, I

(50:32):
know everybody hears this. That's the true experience.

Speaker 3 (50:34):
That's a Christmas circle. This is like an episode of
Walton's Mountain, isn't it. You know you're trying to get
to your family. The car be knocked back from the VTS.

Speaker 10 (50:41):
Community gets in behind me.

Speaker 3 (50:44):
Wow, what was the hurry?

Speaker 14 (50:48):
Ah?

Speaker 21 (50:50):
Just I'm inter being lejet.

Speaker 3 (50:53):
Yeah no, that's right.

Speaker 21 (50:54):
You have this thing about legitimacy.

Speaker 3 (50:57):
Yep, yep, yep.

Speaker 21 (50:59):
You know, and I don't want to draw any you know,
I just want to be a hissle when you don't
need to be a whissle. And and police have got
better things to do with your radar than below this.
And think of the Bacilly fine and that seems in
insurance these days, you know, if your car isn't you'll
find some way to get out of it.

Speaker 3 (51:17):
And it got the war, got the warrant, No no worries,
it's all on the form.

Speaker 21 (51:24):
All happened within like six check this morning. Fail check
this out and then pass. Thanks very much, great day.

Speaker 3 (51:30):
Will you be walking about You'll be walking a bit
taller tonight.

Speaker 21 (51:34):
I went and checked my blood Here you go this case.
I went and checked my blood pressure. An hour and
half afterwards, I see how I you wonder if it's down?
It was, Such was the relief it was. Now look
at that just simple things.

Speaker 3 (51:51):
Blake brake pad specific to makes of cars. I guess
they are, are they?

Speaker 6 (51:57):
Yeah?

Speaker 21 (51:58):
Well, I guess the design of the caliber system. I
guess that's what the tech as you've probably come back with.
But yeah, and at this age with an older car,
they're done by the aftermarket people. And breaks that I
purchased this afternoon, which I surprise on my Frier set up.
But you're far better, far flasher, and they'll last a

(52:19):
lot longer.

Speaker 3 (52:20):
Much on the clock.

Speaker 21 (52:23):
Yeah, three hundred and thirty thousand kilometers now for a
two thousand and two Forward Mondo, A Gear edition. That's
why I've kept it because it was nice. I just like,
it's never cost me really.

Speaker 3 (52:39):
In money starting it's starting too though. It mark.

Speaker 21 (52:43):
In the last I think to myself, maybe I'll get
another year or two.

Speaker 3 (52:48):
What's what's the mechanics? Said, well, do you keep changing?

Speaker 21 (52:54):
You will like you do? When you drive it like
you do, it's just backwards and boards straight up and down.
That why Cattle Expressway at one hundred and ten, which
the car seems to like full off their park it
and come back the other lad. That's all it does.

Speaker 3 (53:10):
He was advising you to dispose of it, an I
think if I do.

Speaker 21 (53:16):
I'll sell it really cheap to some family that needs
a two lited toe card with a five cedar that's
safe from buggaraw that will last for me a year
eighty months.

Speaker 3 (53:25):
What would you buy?

Speaker 21 (53:27):
I'm going to go up and spend some real money
and buy a card that will ask me the rest
of my days. I think into my mid fifties now,
So I reckon I'll buy her to last me twenty years.

Speaker 3 (53:38):
Would you go electric?

Speaker 19 (53:40):
No?

Speaker 7 (53:45):
No?

Speaker 3 (53:47):
Nice to hear from a nicely told story of the
old Christmas miracle. That is Mark Marcus talking of cars.
An eighties delurean sold on trade me for one hundred
thousand dollars a few days ago. They don't come up off.
And that's from James Marcus went into a Puma retail
store on Westgate Auckland today and they will no longer

(54:10):
accept if post for payment, only a credit card or cash.
They used to be asked why they said they have
changed their system. Bizarre. Probably won't go back, Mike. Why
would they not except if to pause? I don't understand

(54:33):
that either. Why are scorched almonds so expensive this year?
Can we get luxon onto that?

Speaker 18 (54:37):
Paul?

Speaker 3 (54:38):
I think it's the price of chocolate. It's climate change?
Oh news, Yeah, the chocolate crop's failing. Marcus. We have
people got their Christmas trees from and if they paid
for it? What's an average price for a tree around
the country? Dan, you put a proper tree. That's a

(54:59):
good question. What's the average price for a Christmas tree?
Got no idea? Marcus is able to adopt the Swiss
road rules. Cannot pass on the inside of cars. When
passing you must move back into the inside lane after

(55:21):
the maneuver. Don't understand that someone explained that to me.
It's not clear to me, Marcus. Rather off top of
but where have the crispy bits of the fish and
chip packet gone? So disappointing? We used to scrabble over
them as kids. Bring back the crispy Bits. Don't really

(55:43):
understand what that is. Trafficing KFC Timadoo drive through bumper
to bumper from Tim and Geraldine. People are sick of cooking, eh,
going for the dirty bird. Get in touch. My name
is Marcus Welcome. I don't know much about Christmas trees.

(56:04):
Has what I do know there was a company while
back there was selling Christmas trees and I'd come around
and remove your old tree. That's what you want, because
it's always hard to get rid of that. Come you
come back from holidays late January, you got this old
tree there they look forlorn, dumped down the side of
the house. I thought that was a good thing. Also too,
there was always a raw, you know, always in the
early days of the Home show with old Mark Valentine

(56:26):
and all the names of the homes reporters. I can't
remember all their names, but they're always doing stories on
rogue Christmas tree sellers. Seems like the industry has been
tidied up for a one I don't know if there's
one player or how that works out. BE kind of
interested to hear what you want to say about that.
But how much for a tree would it be? One

(56:47):
hundred dollars would it be forty dollars? Got no idea,
I think, and bluff people just got bluff hell and
steel one just chopping down beside the road because there's
a bit of a pine forest up there. We don't
have a problem with that, wilding pines. They're probably doing
people a favor anyway. It's only this year that I

(57:10):
learned that in the once upon a time in the
eighteen hundreds nineteenth century, they made Christmas trees out of
goose feathers, and still buy them out of goose feathers.
They die the fed they die the feathers that looks
like branches. I thought that was pretty interesting. Good evening
Carlott's Marcus, welcome.

Speaker 13 (57:32):
You get a here game Marc. Christmas going so fair?

Speaker 3 (57:35):
Yeah good, real good, real good. Looking forward to a
break yep.

Speaker 13 (57:39):
Yeah, I bet yeah. I have been feeling very Christmasy,
so I've been. I decided to a bugger and I'm
in for a drive to I'm in the tron and Hamilton, Yes,
and meant to go there. Have a look at the
harefield lights as bumper to bumba. I wouldn't recommend in
one going tonight.

Speaker 3 (57:54):
Now what lights are these Hairfield.

Speaker 13 (57:57):
Christmas lights and Harefield Drive. So they do them every
year and they are quite quite a really awesome display.

Speaker 3 (58:04):
And okay, this is going to tell you now, this
is just this is just a community of locals that
decided to do something. Is that right?

Speaker 20 (58:11):
Yeah?

Speaker 13 (58:11):
Because the traffic is going both ways. I was going
towards from hereof I've come from O'Neil Street, which is
further up on River Road. I'm talking about down by
Pukii Bridge. So everyone going to the base, it's north

(58:32):
on the River Road. It's bump bumpa and cars can't
get through. A really awesome display there every year and
you off.

Speaker 3 (58:41):
Now that's because the people just themselves start putting up lights.
Is that what's happening?

Speaker 13 (58:46):
Yeah? Yeah, well what of this is the the what
it used to be. I don't know, I don't know
if it's changed, but what it used to be is
every house would get involved in do lights and then
it's slowly it is people sold off. It's one thing
that we broadened the community. You'd I think it's kind
of expected you do live sort of thing long a display.

(59:08):
I mean you got more and more and more and
people wouldst got some of a bit overboard at one
both about five five years ago. It's really if you
get in the Christmas spirit. I haven't been feeling like
it this year.

Speaker 3 (59:22):
No, And how many houses would be done up?

Speaker 13 (59:25):
Oh, it's a whole could a sick streets. There's quite
quite a big here.

Speaker 3 (59:31):
I didn't know.

Speaker 13 (59:32):
I can't tell you exactly how because of the area.
It's really big. It's really good fold.

Speaker 3 (59:36):
They've got a Facebook page with people one and I'm
just look at some other pictures. Now can you walk?
And people walking and just being Hamilton the tron you
your packy cat?

Speaker 10 (59:46):
Yeah?

Speaker 13 (59:46):
Sorry, we were in Hairfield Is it's opposite Pekiny Bridge.
Anyone in the area probably could walk there or but
most people pay the car close or on the road
some here or round. What it used to be is
around Christmas time it would be like you could have
find a pack, you'd have to wait. So I found

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his best just to drive around each each road and
every rather be around Christmas time that'd hand out lollies
or standing around to give a toot sort of thing.
And there's probably six signs six six this season probably,
but I do it every year. I always gave heavy

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look around Chris's time, but this year back, I'll go
a bit earlier.

Speaker 3 (01:00:34):
Brilliant. Okay, so that's bumper to bumper, chock of lot.

Speaker 13 (01:00:37):
Yeah, going north to the base. So I wouldn't recommend
anyone trying to go to the base over Pekidi Bridge
on the road tonight.

Speaker 3 (01:00:45):
Brilliant. Nice to hear, but it might be a good
thing to go first thing in the morning. Twelve from ten.
Hello Stephen Ats, Marcus Gore Evling, Welcome.

Speaker 11 (01:00:51):
Hi, Hi Margaret. The average part on them, I was
sure for Christ's free is fifteen dollars and at the
Christmas Farm that's thirty five dollars.

Speaker 3 (01:01:01):
Much cheaper than I thought. Am I out of touch?

Speaker 21 (01:01:05):
You must be?

Speaker 3 (01:01:06):
How tools one of the Christmas farms?

Speaker 11 (01:01:09):
Yeah, the Christmas Farm is on the Jury Plat Highway.
They grow trees for Christmas tree.

Speaker 3 (01:01:18):
Can you pick your own?

Speaker 11 (01:01:20):
Yeah, you can order it?

Speaker 6 (01:01:21):
Yeah, wow.

Speaker 3 (01:01:26):
Fifteen bucks, yep, got no. How many does it take
to grow?

Speaker 11 (01:01:36):
Oh about eight to twelve months?

Speaker 3 (01:01:39):
Is that all?

Speaker 10 (01:01:41):
Yeah?

Speaker 11 (01:01:43):
And what they do also is that if you buy
one and after Christmas, I'll take it back and they
actually replant them.

Speaker 3 (01:01:51):
Okay, well, really well, yeah. I just put it back
in the ground and roots roots itself.

Speaker 9 (01:02:00):
Yeah yeah, yeah.

Speaker 11 (01:02:01):
They lifted out of the ground and they put it
in a big in the big we have a soon
he leads a container. Well, and you just keep watering
at the other The other day it was on them
enough for Christmas. They come and pick it up and
replant them.

Speaker 3 (01:02:16):
What's it called Christmas farm dairy flat yep? Assurance fifteen bucks?

Speaker 6 (01:02:25):
Yep.

Speaker 11 (01:02:25):
I've seen dollars.

Speaker 3 (01:02:28):
Goodness. Can't see the prices on their website.

Speaker 11 (01:02:35):
Big shining outside outside their place.

Speaker 3 (01:02:38):
No reason, no reason not to believe you, Stephen, and
I appreciate that. Thank you. I'd like confirmation. Thought there'd
be about fifty I tell them on their website expmospines
dot co dot Inteed, you pay to have it re
re reject the tree, you pay to have it wrapped up,
and you can't any We see how much they cost.
How much are Christmas trees? It says, we pay particular

(01:02:59):
attention to each of our trees. Therefore every tree is
priced individually based on size and shape. Can we cut
our own tree? After thirty years of growing trees on site,
we now set our trees directly from our selling sheds.
Pretty how to get austraight on through out of these

(01:03:20):
Norwegian spruce? Goodness? Just how much it is for tree
disposal you're got to pay on the day. I don't
think it's fifteen bucks for a tree. Couldn't be. It's

(01:03:42):
forty bucks for a tree stand drink two to four
liters of the first few days, it's impossible to work
out how much they cost. Got no idea how much

(01:04:03):
a Christmas tree costs people. If you can hit me
out with that, I feel like that I need that
information today. Hello and good evening all. My name is Marcus.
Here till twelve o'clock tonight. I'm looking forward to hearing
from you talk about the situation and this is the
serious topic. And oh something just texts me about Liam Lawson.

(01:04:27):
I haven't heard that news. That wasn't in the news,
was it? Hey, I'm just going to fact check that
because they're waiting for an announcement Liam Lawson, it was supposed
to be tomorrow morning. I haven't seen the announcement of that.
I'll just check on that. So sorry, I'm just trying
to work out, Oh, here we go, Yes, this is
a story. So Liam Lawson wins the race for Red

(01:04:51):
Bull Seek to partner Max Fest up in twenty twenty five.
Thank you for that text, because I did say it
was going to be announced on Friday morning, and I thought, well,
is it our time or their time? But it's been
announced on Thursday night or Thursday morning UK time. Actually
I read the article because this has been there's been
a lot of talk about the story confession. I've tried

(01:05:14):
to understand it, and I've watched a couple of Formula
one races to try and really understand the nuance and
to work out what's happening in Formula one and whether
he was doing enough to get the selection. And I
didn't really understand the sport. So I'm going to open
it up if you want to explain about this and

(01:05:34):
how significant this is to New Zealand. I read the
article after months of speculation over which four drivers will
make up Red Bulls two driver lineups next year. The
organization part of ways with sis pre ears earlier on
Thursday and paved the way for the key. We just
step into the CEDI side laws and the merges a

(01:05:56):
purceived candidate to be promoted among Red Bulls S Sheherholder,
Senior team principal Christian Horner and team adviser Helmet Marco
here understands the only was about paid to Perris to
Turmor his contract. The move will see Dawson move up
into Red Bull's senior ranks with just eleven races of
experience find twenty twenty three and six this year. Lawson

(01:06:21):
is the first driver to be promoted from Red Bulls
junior to senior team since twenty nineteen, when Alex Albon
moved from what was in Torosso. And while there may
be criticism from outside their ranks, Red Bull are confident
and Lawson's ability to adapt their demands of driving with
their senior team. Despite his inexperience on a stands It's

(01:06:45):
easily held article the hero of the Stands. Lawson's promotion
was set around more than results, having scored just four
points from his six races this year. Instead, Lawson's record
in aiding with development during his year as a reserve driver,
a taking into account as well as Red Bull's internal

(01:07:06):
value holding him in better steed compared to Verstappen than
his predecessors, and given the uncertainty around vers Stepan's future
in the sport with no guarantee of continuing in Formula
one part to expire of twenty twenty eight contract. Red
Bull is understood to be eager to give laws and
time in the senior team to prepare him if that eventuates.

(01:07:31):
The twenty two year old had been in contention with
teammate Yuki Sonoda for the seat and won out over
his more experienced teammate, despite having complete eighty seven grand
priest to Lawson to live and the here understands Red
Bull reluctant to put him to this singer team for
a number of reasons. The twenty four year old Japanese
drivers largely with Red Bull due to the commercial benefits

(01:07:51):
to engines supply a Honda. With a Honda will leave
Red Bull and twenty three six and join Ston Martin
and to nota will follow. Tensions between the two teams
are already high, given Ston Martin leward designer Adrian Yueiy
from Red Bull to un US Dad, red Bull did
not want to give to you not a year in
the top team. I just see him leave twelve months
later and take their intellectual probably to arrival. So that's

(01:08:15):
kind of all I know at the stage. So if
you want to talk about Liam Lawson, go to Formula one.
Great Marcus, the Formula one races are getting younger and younger.
Thank you for that, Matt Marcus. Welcome.

Speaker 11 (01:08:33):
Hi mircaus.

Speaker 22 (01:08:34):
Hey, I just don't like to say that. I'm so
happy that the Final Cora has opened up to the
risk of New Zealand. All we had was the East
Coast and there must be a He's of lots of
happy truckies out there.

Speaker 9 (01:08:50):
He supply us in the finals.

Speaker 3 (01:08:52):
Hang the makers.

Speaker 22 (01:08:57):
Yeah, the mong olc a goods is it open?

Speaker 3 (01:09:00):
It's been open for it didn't open just today? Did it?

Speaker 18 (01:09:03):
No?

Speaker 22 (01:09:04):
Listens up at one minute? Passman by tonight?

Speaker 3 (01:09:08):
Does it really.

Speaker 18 (01:09:10):
Really?

Speaker 22 (01:09:11):
Yeah?

Speaker 3 (01:09:11):
The ninety thanks for the heads up. I think there's
been closed for a long time, isn't it forever?

Speaker 22 (01:09:17):
In a day? And all we hit was these case.
I'm just so happy.

Speaker 3 (01:09:22):
Hey, could you tell me something, Matt. What was the
nature of the What was the nature of why that closed?

Speaker 22 (01:09:30):
Because being up being a mountains cuts not just being
I wrote through a mountain. Then I he's the answers
all the time and there.

Speaker 3 (01:09:38):
Okay, so they've tried to make the future the future
proved it? Have they?

Speaker 14 (01:09:44):
Oh so far?

Speaker 22 (01:09:45):
But well I reckon what they should do, but probably
not feasible. Is then she just stick a tunnel through it.

Speaker 3 (01:09:51):
Yeah, okay, good on you, Matt, Thank you, Marcus. The
next book about Formula one is The Formula by Joshua
Robinson and Jonathan Kleig. It ends up with the Las
Vegas twenty twenty three Formula one in festinating read Ellen.
If you're talking about Liam Lawson and what that means
to New Zealand, I don't know how many New Zealand
drivers have been in the Formula One, but you people

(01:10:14):
will do because I know people love that sport. So
if you want to talk about that also, I'll be
up for that. Ten Formula one drivers from New Zealand,

(01:10:34):
four of them having two or fewer races. I say,
what I did watch was the NASCAR documentary That was
quite good, fun, pretty heir eracing, that isn't it. It's
stock cars based on the old Moonshiners. High Luca's Marcus, welcome.

Speaker 7 (01:10:54):
First time calling Marcus.

Speaker 3 (01:10:55):
Nice to hear from your look. Thanks for the effort.

Speaker 7 (01:10:59):
Yeah, I just want to have a court Chetty Belly
and Awson and is very close to my heart. I'll
follow it and for a very long time. And I
don't necessarily believe that New Zealand to really understand the
magnitude of what the skills achieves. The ability to get
to where he is or where he's going to be

(01:11:20):
is nothing short of just raw talent and great dedication,
you know, just it's an unbelievable sex begin at risk gets.

Speaker 3 (01:11:32):
Oh sorry, my Microsoft, I apologize for that.

Speaker 16 (01:11:36):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:11:39):
Yeah, because you must be an extraordinary driver, but you
just have a team advocating for you. Because a feeble
of business kicks in. It must cost you to get
some of those earlier drives, does it.

Speaker 7 (01:11:51):
The interesting thing was Formula one over the last probably
five years that these teams are worth a lot of
money now, right, Yeah, so prior to Liberty Media taking
over Formula one and you know, the adventive drive to
survive and getting this moret into living rooms that wouldn't
necessarily be watching it, right, So the values of these
teams have gone through the rip and the big commercial

(01:12:12):
enterprises now. So I think what they're looking to do,
and you know a lot of drivers like to take
a lot of money to the team and Sergio periers
Is no, you know, obviously a very talented drive too,
but he took a lot of money to that team
to have that seat, right, so to have Liam there,
and he's had a lot of Kiwis and many of

(01:12:33):
those who are listening you know behind him that have
that have packed them and you know, put a lot
of money into them as well. But nothing like having
to take twenty five million, you know, to receet just
have a drive. He's got there on his talent, with
a whole bunch of Kiwis behind him. That believe because
it and this kiss twenty three years of age, I believe,

(01:12:58):
and he's racing one of the very best motorsport racing
teams in the world. It's as simple as that. It's
it's it's it's epic.

Speaker 3 (01:13:06):
So you saying he would have to have paid big
money to get that drive, is it the way it works?

Speaker 7 (01:13:11):
I know he hasn't paid in money, he's been paid
to drive, but a lot of those seats of blood
lar one prior to this kind of generation, I suppose
a lot of those drivers have had to pay a
lot of money. And the way it works markets is
that if you look at say you know, let's use
Oscar Bearistreet, Lewis Hamilton, Charloteclair.

Speaker 10 (01:13:33):
You know that.

Speaker 7 (01:13:35):
You know, they've got countries with with with a lot
of money that can actually support their moderation careers. And
on top of that, they've also got home grond creeps.
They've got these entire nations behind them. Whereas you know,
Dangelium has got there on not not a shoe string budget,
but you know relative to some of these other other drivers.

(01:13:56):
And we don't have a Grand Prix either, so it's
all based on talent, which is you know, I mean,
it's people, and you thought.

Speaker 3 (01:14:04):
This was going to happen. Look, this was this was
this was always going to happen to you pleasantly surprised
with today's announcement.

Speaker 7 (01:14:13):
I mean, if you look at his trajectory into Formula one,
obviously the unfortunate thing that happened with Daniel Ricardo and
apt and Alan was a reserved driver, so he had
to step up and he was racing in the track
that you know he never raced that before. It was wet,
the fluent will last that he jumped at the form
one kind of way he went, so his his very

(01:14:34):
first you know, meeting her Formula one car. He oppressed.

Speaker 3 (01:14:39):
Okay, I've gotta leave it there, Luke because they're on headlines.
But thanks so much for that, sharky Marcus.

Speaker 22 (01:14:44):
Good evening, Marcus.

Speaker 16 (01:14:47):
I just want to dring and say Merry Christmas and
have a good few year. My last night driving on
the road, so have I got on a shift that
was next week. So yeah, Merry Christmas.

Speaker 18 (01:15:02):
All the listeners.

Speaker 16 (01:15:04):
And if I was to come up with the most
memory will phone call this year that I've heard on
your show, it would have to be the phone call
you had with Meredith about six weeks ago.

Speaker 3 (01:15:16):
What was that about?

Speaker 16 (01:15:19):
I don't know. You were talking about etiquette at funerals. Yeah,
where my dad's funeral was, and he wore the Sheep
Shagger shirt and you know, for aero for his question,
and then Meredith came on and she was Marcus Marcus, yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:15:37):
Vaguely remember, Hey, So, why are you going to day
shift permanently?

Speaker 16 (01:15:42):
No, I'll probably go out to that for like the
next couple of months because everything flows down. And now
she was the new Zealand Careers parcels thing, because tonight
I've got like only half a load on the truck
and trailer because they're just that it's finding down now,

(01:16:04):
career posts.

Speaker 3 (01:16:06):
Gosh, it's winding down before I expected it too. I
don't think they drove stuff round of the daytime.

Speaker 20 (01:16:13):
I know.

Speaker 16 (01:16:14):
Well, when I go over to daytime, I mount long
and the way to Auckland and return at night. But
as of next week or during the courier post, but
as of next week, I'll be doing butter from some
TIRA factory in each.

Speaker 3 (01:16:33):
How long is that? That's just like would you do
two of those trips a day?

Speaker 2 (01:16:38):
Yeah?

Speaker 16 (01:16:39):
Today from each tip?

Speaker 17 (01:16:42):
Yeah, so to tower the warf.

Speaker 3 (01:16:47):
I hate to say, but why is that not going
on rail?

Speaker 20 (01:16:52):
Yeah?

Speaker 16 (01:16:52):
Because well the only rail that does go out that
way goes the Couner out to the TIMBERML.

Speaker 3 (01:16:57):
Yeah yeah, okay, I think the train's going to edge
Kim do they still.

Speaker 22 (01:17:03):
Yeah?

Speaker 16 (01:17:04):
Yeah they no, because the train line and the main
that railway bridges now seach a mission.

Speaker 3 (01:17:15):
Okay, okay, that makes sense. Yeah, I can see it
now on Google maps they commissioned also. Okay. Oh, good
luck anyway, shark and thanks thanks for your kind wishes.
Nineteen to eleven o'clock Marcus till twelve Formula one and
driving Marcus this week at a coach tell mark thirty
six years of the downing of pan Am Flight one

(01:17:35):
oh three. Remember that one those extraordinary figures are the
bits of the aircraft in those fields. Big news is
Liam Lawson to partner world champion Max for stepping at
Form one Red Ball next year. Ray Marcus welcome, Yeah,
hi Marcus, Yeah it is.

Speaker 18 (01:17:53):
Your previous caller was talking about currently in the current market,
that doesn't cost that much for four drivers to get
to the top. About fifteen years ago there was a
young driver Okiss from South Africa and I knew his
father quite well and he had a move to the
UK and spend years just trying to raise enough money

(01:18:16):
to keep his son in the Red Bull junior team,
trying to make his way through the Formula one and
the best he did was came third in the Formula two.
But it was the money that got in the way.
He couldn't raise enough of his own money to stay
in the team. So it was quite interesting many years
ago or ten years ago, twelve years ago, it was

(01:18:37):
a big financial investment from families in order to get
their child to the top. And just to think it
might have changed last now right, just with that.

Speaker 3 (01:18:46):
And I've never understood that if you're investing a huge
money for your son to race, the way that you'll
get that money back is for the fee you'll be
paid to drive for Formula One. Have I got that
kind of right?

Speaker 6 (01:19:05):
Yeah?

Speaker 18 (01:19:05):
I would, I would have. I suppose I also, I
mean I think one of them. I remember seeing a
photograph of Tellam o'keith with some of the other junior drivers,
and the one fellow that that was next to him
in that photograph was the guy that's from Thailand the
currently races for Williams. Forget his name, though he did
race for alongside Yu Sonoda for one season what's his name,

(01:19:30):
but he he got funding from a thaie at one
of the Thailand energy drinks, which was a big feeder
into getting him that seat in the second tier Red
Bull team about four seasons ago. But I think yeah,
as a parents or was always investors around a good driver.
They they could take shares in a in a driver

(01:19:54):
and then read the rewards late down the line if
they're successful. But but largely I remember this family, we
were investing heavily and their own money and then and
then traveling meeting corporates, trying to sell the future of
a South African driver, finally making into Formula one, and
sadly he just never made it. He was right on

(01:20:16):
the cusps, a really good driver, won mini races and
Formula two, but it was the financial barrier that got
in the way. He just he just couldn't stay in
that in that Formula two and Junior Red Bull seat
for long enough to make his way into a team.

Speaker 3 (01:20:30):
It must be an incredible curse to have a talented
son as a driver, because it must have been incredibly
hard to you know, the business decisions you'd need to
make it because you'd want to do your son justice.
But it just seems so. I mean, there's only waami
drivers either twenty or something.

Speaker 18 (01:20:46):
Yeah, well that's it, Yeah, exactly. I spent in two
thousand and eight. Eight I was at the Monaco Grand
Prix with this family and this young young kid. If
you look up, look him up. Killum.

Speaker 3 (01:20:58):
Oh yes, I heard that.

Speaker 18 (01:21:01):
So he made it into that Red.

Speaker 16 (01:21:02):
Bull Junior team.

Speaker 18 (01:21:03):
But I was sitting at Larasca's corner with him and
his dad watching. Lewis Hamilton won the Monico Grand Prix
and he was busy racing Go Collits at the time,
and I remember he bumped into Lewis Hamilton at the
at a lift at the hotel and Lewis spent about
five minutes with him talking to him about his aspirations

(01:21:24):
and this shiit just rent guns blazing for the next
six seven eight years, but just could never crack it.
And it was not that they didn't have enough money.
They invested a lot of money, but it was just
couldn't couldn't compete with some of those really big international
sponsors that some of his peers had because couldn't crack it,

(01:21:45):
couldn't get in front of the right decide that the
guys that made the decisions for long enough because of
the financial constraints.

Speaker 3 (01:21:54):
As South Africa never had a Formula one driver.

Speaker 18 (01:21:58):
I think they have before my time ago. I think
they used to race Formula one and at the place
Kayle Army and there was there were one or two
Formula one drivers, but this is pre nineteen seventies, nineteen eighties,
probably before my memory. But I do recall it being

(01:22:22):
very very popular in the seventies and eighties, just before
all of the international bands kicked in with the part
tapes and all that and ye so so yeah, very
I mean very popular in South Africa. And I remember
they were trying to get Cecil, probably one of the
largest fuel companies in Africa, to sponsor Callum, but just

(01:22:46):
was never able to give enough of a financial return
to these those sponsors because they without without it being
a Formula one in South Africa, there's there's none of
that that real returns to them for them from a
South African product. So but you're ready, you'd have that
international product that backs you, I know, kind of the
Mexican the Mexican guys and Peris when he was when

(01:23:09):
he was trying to break into the Red Bull team,
he was competing alongside one of the French drivers and
he got he got his foot in the door because
he was backed by a billionaire Mexican.

Speaker 3 (01:23:23):
Yeah, I did hear that.

Speaker 18 (01:23:23):
But it's all about money. Money talks, money talks in
those big decision factors. I mean, look at the guys
from as and Martin. The guys one of the driver's
dad owns the owns the team and that's how his
sun drifts.

Speaker 3 (01:23:36):
Does it Will it make much of a difference for
your interest in the Sport next year, whether he's in there,
in there or is it always interesting anyway, Yeah.

Speaker 18 (01:23:45):
Like I always love watching it anyway, since since I've
managed to watch that one love in Monaco have I've
always been a fan, but I've been watching with increased
interest since Liam Lawson's been on the scene. So it
certainly makes it a little bit more personal for us.
And I'm really excited that he's finally happened for him now,
which is great. So I've been watching so much, so

(01:24:08):
much news yed coming through in the last three to
six months as if it was about to happen, and
almost was too good to be true. When I heard
you say it on the radio a few minutes ago,
so started for him and it brings it home a
butt for us.

Speaker 3 (01:24:22):
I agree, Ray, and I'll be getting more excited about
Toby watching it because yeah, I like that connection. By
the way, New Zealand drivers in Formula one Bruce McLaren
drove from fifty eight nineteen seventy, Tony Shelley in nineteen
sixty two, just the one start, Chris Aimon sixty three
to seventy six, Diddy Hume sixty five to seventy four,
Howard again Lee seventy one to seventy four, Graham McCrae

(01:24:43):
just the one race in seventy three, John Nicholson one
start in seventy four, Mike Thickwell two starts in nineteen
eighty nine, eighty four, Brendan Hartley the twenty five entries,
four career points, twenty seventeen, twenty eighteen, and Liam Lawson.
So that's the situation there. So it's very very exciting.

(01:25:05):
Good evening, Malcolm. It's Marcus. Welcome, Hi, Marcus.

Speaker 10 (01:25:10):
Marcus. I noticed that it's been consumpt a little. Someone
mentioned Alden Ganley. Alden Ganley lived not far from us
in Hamilton way back when, and we knew him, an older.

Speaker 22 (01:25:28):
Boy than we were.

Speaker 10 (01:25:30):
We used to notice him around the yacht club quite
a bit, and he used to sell said class than others.
And then apparently he got very hooked on Formula one
and racing in general, and ended up with quite a
relationship with McLaren. Bruce McLaren at all. Bruce McLaren died

(01:25:54):
and knocked around the various Formula one circles his mechanic
and then finally a few races reached Ala the some
of the some of the results he got were in
the top top ten in individual races. But he was

(01:26:15):
quite an interesting sort of fellow with, sort of used
to go around with a pair of old jeans and straw,
you know, a piece of grass out the court of
his Now. I think money was a little bit short
in those days, but he more than made up with

(01:26:35):
his personality.

Speaker 3 (01:26:37):
And where is he now? Where's he now? Malcolm?

Speaker 10 (01:26:40):
Oh, I think he's long gone. Okay, early seventies, said
he would have been. I've just looked it up because
I couldn't remember. I knew he was quite a bit
older than that. And he was born in forty one,
so I imagine.

Speaker 3 (01:26:57):
Eighty three or something. Well, yeah, yeah, it's not a
name I've ever heard of.

Speaker 10 (01:27:04):
Yeah, Ganley lived in Lake increasently Hamilton, as I used
to knock around the yacht club Hamilton York Club.

Speaker 3 (01:27:12):
Did you even know Hamilton? We know Hamilton had a
yacht club. They sailed the lake, do they?

Speaker 10 (01:27:17):
Oh? Yeah, it's about one hundred and sixty akins, I
think of the water, okay, and quite a Oh it's
quite a what goes on, don't you? Yes? Oh?

Speaker 3 (01:27:32):
Really interesting Malcolm. Thank you for coming through greetings, good evening,
final hour for me. People. I hope it's all good
where you are. What we'll do tomorrow night, if you've
got any great site. I always struggle about with the
I always struggle with the last show of the year.
And look, my problem is always I don't take enough
holidays during the year. I think I've had a break

(01:27:52):
since March, so by the time of the end of
the year comes around, I feel absolutely like I'm ready
for a break. So unfortunately for me, the last show
of the year comes around to finishing the Ordeal rather
than I'm sort of celebrating and bringing in the kids
and father Christmas and Carols and anyway. So I'll see

(01:28:12):
what happens to row night. See I've got the happy
hat on. But anyway, how you're going to people, welcome
and listen. Land my name is Marcus Edel twelve. Be
a part of it, Liam Lawson, we can talk about
I guess it's going to be what that's going to
mean to Formula one and watching Formula one, I would

(01:28:34):
imagine this. People here very excited about it. I mean,
I presume Darth. I mean, I don't know if it's
a bit like here's the thing. I don't know. I
would imagine that people into Formula one would be into
the Formula one, but not at the exclusion of supporting

(01:28:57):
other forms of motor racing. Am I right about that?
Or are people into motor racer into all sorts of it?
That's kind of what I don't know. I don't know.
If you're into Formula one, you hate the na's cars,
or you hate Scott Dixon and his sort of stuff,
you're into all of it. I'd be curious to hear
about that. I also don't know. It's hard for me
to tell, and maybe someone can actually answer me about that.

(01:29:22):
Answer me that question.

Speaker 20 (01:29:26):
What?

Speaker 3 (01:29:26):
And I'm not This is not meant in any way
to disparage Liam Lawson's choice. I wonder how much is
absolute talent, Like you've got people like for Steppan and
you've got people like Hamilton, and you've got people like him.
You know, is it the fast twitch muscles that are

(01:29:48):
so much better? Can you actually break down what makes
them a better driver? Even on that NASCAR documentary on
Netflix I was watching, they're always doing tricks on the
computer where you've got to touch things to help your
reactions and stuff like that, So I wonder how much
of it is that anyway. So you might be to
the indie cars, you might be into the NASCAR, you
might be into the VH, you might be into Formula one.

(01:30:11):
So you're just about motor racing in general. If you're
around enthusiast, what do you think about Liam Lawson? What
does this mean to you? He'll be driving for Red
Bull to what we're on about tonight and also to
the road between Milford and Queenstown with those accidents that
happened today. So yeah, what you got people, My name's Marcus.
Some texts about motor racing playing second fiddle to the

(01:30:34):
stap and could be a tricky position. Team orders will
always favor the defending champion. He'll be told to pull
over and Lenham pass. He's paying second fiddle. Yep, Marcus.
Have all drivers in Formula one where they're on town's
and ability, then Scott McLaughlin and Shane Van Gisbergen would

(01:30:56):
be in Formula one. Yeah, there's a sort of statement.
I like people, So if you want to talk about that,
that's great to hear from you. Formula one vers steppan great,
a very Steppen. I'll tell you the thing that I
struggle with too. Okay, since you haven't got I haven't
got your call, so I can talk about the times

(01:31:17):
I've watched Formula One, which would probably be twice, no
three times, as in a hotel and and I sat
down and watched it when I've watched it on TV
recently because his cameras everywhere, but the way it's commentated,

(01:31:38):
you don't really see it as a race, You just
see it as different kind of incidents they highlight. I
found it really hard to get the sense of the
whole race. It's not like they're just in there. The
way they edit it together, you're just not seeing the
leading person going around and around and around. You're almost
seeing it cutting to different cameras and different parts of
the race, which I sort of found quite discombobulating. Whereas

(01:32:05):
with Nair's a even though just going right around the
track four hundred times, I found it a bit more
straightforward to watch. And I imagine too, as I watch
it more often, I've become more I fay with it all.
You're Jamie Marcus, welcome.

Speaker 16 (01:32:18):
Hey here you going Marcus?

Speaker 4 (01:32:21):
Yeah, yeah, we my my fourteen year old We've done
a little bit of dirt racing, go karting. They do
it out of Epswitch race Face and a couple of friends.
We got to know they're they started racing Benjamin for
their kids. Fifteen hundred dollars a me. That's costing to
take their go card out.

Speaker 3 (01:32:41):
Wow wow.

Speaker 4 (01:32:44):
For new tires every day, so two sets of tires
and they they can't really afford it, like they I'm
pretty sure they don't own the house, but they doesn't
work all week, so then go out. I think they
take it out like maybe twice a month every second
week to go out racing. They just blew my mind.
Where it was for me when I got the fourteen

(01:33:05):
year old into it, I guess it was more I
wanted to teach him how to drive. So when he
got fifteen sixteen and he you know, picked his girlfriend
up or whatever, he had some skills so he didn't
go off too much more about it what I wanted
to do.

Speaker 3 (01:33:24):
But you're thinking about you're thinking about what you were
like when you were fifteen, right They Oh, we've got
to stop that, okay, yeah.

Speaker 4 (01:33:30):
Yeah, yeah, yeah yeah yeah. And David Reynolds talks on
it on a podcast. He said he feels guilty because
his parents spent about two million dollars to get him
the supercars levels. He says that you know that there
would be better drivers out there that haven't been discovered,
but they don't have any money, so they said. He
almost feel guilty of that, and he always struggled to

(01:33:52):
answer the questions when kids ask him, how do you
get into racing cars?

Speaker 3 (01:33:57):
And that's the Australian supercars? Have I got that right?
That's where he's in with us two million bucks?

Speaker 16 (01:34:00):
Is that is that?

Speaker 2 (01:34:02):
Yeah?

Speaker 13 (01:34:02):
Okay, supercar?

Speaker 3 (01:34:04):
So you know your you know your mates. And which
with the bitchermen racing, they're spending fifteen hundred a weekend
racing they're fourteen year old? Do they Are they doing
that because they're literally dreamed through him, or he's got
a real talent, or they're just into it.

Speaker 6 (01:34:21):
Yeah?

Speaker 4 (01:34:21):
Yeah, they're living the room through their kids.

Speaker 13 (01:34:23):
But the dad.

Speaker 4 (01:34:25):
And he got I mean, he's.

Speaker 3 (01:34:30):
Okay, you're still there, Jamie, your cat out of it?

Speaker 4 (01:34:34):
Oh yeah, yes. And he told me when I was
around the house the other weekend that he would the
dream would be to see his kids race at matters,
even not the one thousand even just the support category.
We've seen that no amount of money, you know, any
amount of money will make that worth it. Do you
can tell me they must be.

Speaker 3 (01:34:57):
I think because I mean have been a peerent myself.
I think it also must put a huge pressure on
your kid when you're doing something like that, because how
do you know when they're really into it, not just
doing it to a pre shoe.

Speaker 6 (01:35:08):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (01:35:08):
Yeah, well I said, like, we just would go out
and just do kid tunes with Oliver and he loves it.
But then he understood that we were never going to
be that good because we didn't have enough money, you know,
So yeah, we had to just go It was like
forty bus for the day to go cut costantly cussing underdoors,
and that was it, and we just go out once

(01:35:29):
a month at well, you know, we'd spend the day
out there and he was happy and yeah, my had
parents come over and tell me that I needed to
get him raped and was a good ride.

Speaker 3 (01:35:42):
You watch too, cible, Yeah, well.

Speaker 4 (01:35:45):
Like we're trying to buy our farm at the moment,
so you're by fum, Yeah, we're going to move out.
We're going to look tomorrow and move out to Neneno.

Speaker 3 (01:35:55):
What are you going to farm.

Speaker 4 (01:35:57):
Yeah, buy like teen akers out there for five hundred seven,
so you look at that. Actually, yeah, you work the land,
so yeah, right there, And I.

Speaker 3 (01:36:11):
Know you're rev here do you do you do? You
follow the Formula one as well?

Speaker 4 (01:36:16):
Oh that's funny. Now I don't because I like, notice,
bought more for the cars than the sport. But my
twenty year old daughter, she's not interested in cars at all,
but she will follow the Formula one religiously.

Speaker 3 (01:36:30):
How did she get in there?

Speaker 4 (01:36:32):
I got no idea. She just came out one day
and she goes, oh, Formula ones on tonight. I think
you watch it? And then all she talked about to
me when I'm at home with the Formula one.

Speaker 3 (01:36:44):
Wow, because people that are into it, they get right
into it. I can't work out what the excitement is
because it just yeah, it doesn't flow as an event
to me, but I know people love it.

Speaker 4 (01:36:57):
Yeah, I don't get it either. I like, like I say,
I like the car actions for the cars more than
the and the driving. But then Formula one is a
different solid driving to how you drive your normal car.

Speaker 16 (01:37:08):
You know, is it?

Speaker 18 (01:37:11):
I reckon?

Speaker 4 (01:37:12):
Ain't supercars?

Speaker 16 (01:37:13):
And more hair?

Speaker 18 (01:37:14):
You know?

Speaker 4 (01:37:15):
Like if you want a supercar, not just now, but
the ones they had before and they got You can
watch them and go, oh eh, I can drive around
the bluff like that, you know.

Speaker 3 (01:37:25):
Yeah, okay, nice to hear. For good luck with a farm,
Jamile say how that goes? Marc is till twelve seventeen
past eleven Marcus, they get into the top ten, they
get points. Whoever has the highest at the end of
the season wins. They get a payout from Formula One.

(01:37:46):
I heard some of the lowest teams got paid ten million. Yes,
bring the kids in the play some Christmas carols tomorrow night.
Woo my kid to be terrible on the radio, and
I wouldn't put them through it. Yeah, no, there's nowhere
in the world they'll be coming on. I don't I don't.

(01:38:11):
I don't want to talk them down. But yeah, no,
they're not coming on a here. They're not that sort
of that. They're not that sort of those sort of children.
I don't know that, but I don't mean that. I
don't want to mean that. There's people who put their
kids on here would be there's a particular sort of children,
but I think they're not of Broadcasters are quite keen

(01:38:32):
to get the kids on their oil. I don't know why. Actually,
probably should shut up now I've got a chance. How
you're going people? What's happening nineteen pastor even Formula one?

Speaker 6 (01:38:41):
Yeah?

Speaker 3 (01:38:42):
Christmas treeth? Oh Marcus? Have you done the predictions yet?
And other predictions? Have any of the predictions come true?
I thought of out other prediction today.

Speaker 1 (01:38:51):
What was it?

Speaker 3 (01:38:55):
I thought quite a good one today, So that's going
to go to my predictions and I can't remember what
it was. For next year, we'll do the predictions show
the first show of next year. We'll see who won
from last year and when you get your new predictions.
I am looking forward to that. Marcus Lawson moving to

(01:39:21):
Red Bull is not good for staff and has a
history of breaking his teammates, and Red Bull tends to
promote junior drivers before they are ready. Gazley and Alban
I'm excited to have a kip me on the grid,
but he should have stayed at VCARB and Yuki should
have gone up Isabella. I just had a quick look
on Twitter, and boy, people aren't sure of an opinion.

(01:39:46):
It seems to be a sport where they really love
trash talking and hating people. I mean, that's really like
it's I spent about ten seconds looking at Pebble's replies
to Liam Lawson. I thought, well, those people certainly don't
have the maturity to follow sport, real fanboy sort of stuff.

Speaker 21 (01:40:06):
A weird.

Speaker 3 (01:40:09):
Evening David's Marcus, welcome.

Speaker 6 (01:40:12):
Yere you go, Marcus. What I know about li Liam
Lawson is he's man the right. He's come up through
the ranks, come up and earns his place pretty much
in Formula one. He's progressed. It's not like he's come
from a lot of dough. He started from the bottom
and progressed, unlike Frankie moon Is of Malcolm in the

(01:40:34):
Middle fame, who's just pouring millions into.

Speaker 4 (01:40:40):
Yeah, well you hit.

Speaker 6 (01:40:41):
My point is he isn't the right. I'm pleased he
is where he's at, and good luck to him.

Speaker 3 (01:40:47):
I wonder what happens to a kid like that that
can get the whole family in the world behind them.
What sort of person is that that decides at a
young age that's their dream because it's not that common,
is it.

Speaker 6 (01:40:58):
No, it's not. And that's where I say that he's
I just wish him luck and I hope he goes
well and whatever whatever team he he's lucky enough. And
I call it a bit of luck because I think
you've got to have a wee bit of luck and talent. Absolutely,
But as I say, he's come up from pretty much
obscurity and earned his right in his place, and I

(01:41:19):
wish him bloody good luck. You watch it, Yeah, yeah,
I'm not that into it, but as I say, I
have seen him, and he has progressed, and he has
had funding and perhaps a little bit of luck, but
you don't get where he is without skill and determination
and a passion for the sport.

Speaker 3 (01:41:41):
I'll be huge for New Zealand because we love how
we love watching ourselves. It'll be nice break from America's
Cup yachting, do, won't it.

Speaker 8 (01:41:48):
Well?

Speaker 6 (01:41:49):
Yeah, but I mean, you know, Key he's skilled in there.
You know, it's just another We've got others and you know,
and that where they go around in circles. It was
at five hundred, you know, let's just go around and circle.
I can't think of that bloke's name. But you know,

(01:42:09):
we've got other Key Wedge over around the world, not
in yachting and mode of racing and all sports. But
there's for Lilliam Lawson. No, good luck to him.

Speaker 3 (01:42:18):
Good on you, Dave break you have your break for Christmas, Dave.

Speaker 6 (01:42:23):
Yeah, yeah, family and what have you, and not spectaicular
Christmas Day with the family.

Speaker 21 (01:42:32):
And I don't know.

Speaker 6 (01:42:33):
I might get away somewhere. I might take a trip
up to him, but looking forward to getting back in
the swim pool. I've been cropped with the SERVI ltis
take a month off and I was just coming right, Marcus,
you wouldn't believe it. Then he said he lights a
scratched in the back of the league and I gotten fitted.
That's been bandied up for a month.

Speaker 3 (01:42:54):
It's come right.

Speaker 6 (01:42:55):
Yes, mate, I'm still getting every other day from this
board where they come and dresser.

Speaker 3 (01:43:02):
I'm pleased to hear them day that it's coming right.
You'd be'd be looking forward to a soak up at Hamnah.

Speaker 6 (01:43:09):
Oh ma, there's do my head. And you know swim
and fitness, because because you're taken.

Speaker 1 (01:43:15):
You take that.

Speaker 3 (01:43:15):
You take that quite seriously. You're swimming, don't you.

Speaker 6 (01:43:18):
I do, mate, I do well. I take fitness. I
think it's important for any man and walking. I enjoy
the walking and fitness is important for anyone.

Speaker 10 (01:43:28):
I think.

Speaker 6 (01:43:29):
But anyhow, I wish you and yours of merry question.

Speaker 3 (01:43:32):
Yeah you too, Dave, and thanks for that. You go well.
Trip to Hammer a different than a trip to Hamlan
in the old days. That was something different. Wondn't it, Marcus.
I believe that driving is in their blood. Like you see,
fighters want to fight. I don't believe you can be
good at that level of sport if you don't want
to do it. First round of Formula recently, Mitchievans started

(01:43:53):
last on the grid and finish in first place. That's
rare in any motor sport. Never hear much in the
media about are two key with both superb drivers, Sue
christ Church Mitchevans speak once he was going to be
one of the world. I guess he's doing well for
I don't know. Is it electric racing. There's so many
different there's the other thing that doesn't annoy me about racing.

(01:44:17):
But you know, I'd like them all to be unified
because I know they'll never do it, because it's each
got their own different fans and their own different style
of racing. But you know, I'd like to see is
sort of a situation where people try all different sorts
of racing when that NASCAR document NASCAR is quite interesting,

(01:44:38):
and I kind even think why it's interesting. It was
a five episode series. I watched it all. I pretty
much learned nothing, but people are obsessed about in America,
and yeah, I don't even know. I don't even know really.

(01:45:03):
I mean, there was that old Tom Cruise movie Days
of Thunder that was about the news came. But they
just got these tricks. They just go round and round
and round and round and round, slipstreaming each other. That's
pretty much. Yet they seem pretty safe though, now you
know when they do get clipped, which they get clipped
quite off and they spin over. They've got nick braces
on it, but that seemed to survive it. Ye, kind

(01:45:26):
of amazing. Anyway, I can see what you know. There's
something quite sort of relaxing about watching them race. Kelvin Kelvin,
Kelvin Kelvin.

Speaker 19 (01:45:39):
Marcus Marcus, Marcus Marcus. I heard about an air again
here probably you mentioned the name Haddon Ganley.

Speaker 3 (01:45:48):
Yeah, Formula one driver from New Zealand or from Hamilton.

Speaker 19 (01:45:52):
Here from the tron. Yeah. Well, I used to go
and watch the Grand Prix at Pocket Cowey for a
few years until a racing ka left the track and
smash my smashed in front of my mark one Zephra head.
I was with a few friends. We've been camping over
the mount. But aya moving on from that. Years before that,
I knew Howd and Ganiley when I went to Saint

(01:46:14):
Peter's Boy Scouts Troop, which was across the road from
the main Hamelton Police station, and the troop hall was
sitting on the grounds of the Saint Peter's Big Cathedral there,
so it had the name Saint Peter's Boys Scout Troop.
But we didn't really have anything to do with the
religious part of it, not really. But anyway, now Howd

(01:46:36):
and Ganley he was in the troop. Scout troops divide
up into little groups and now it was the Wicker group,
and Howden was in that. And I'm pretty sure I
haven't got any photos, but I'm pretty sure he went
to Hamelin Boys School Hamilton Boys High School when I
was there, because he'd be the same age as me.
I saw him on TV a few months ago over

(01:46:57):
in England, so I'm eighty three. So if he saw
a lie, that's.

Speaker 3 (01:47:02):
Calvin somebody who was the other ring before I liked
his voice. Dan who was the other ring Mahadden Ganley
before but he is still alive.

Speaker 19 (01:47:08):
Oh yes, yeah, yeah, yeah, So I was mainly and
before he is a mator driver at Scouts and that
we went used to go to Scout camps and at
the Narrows which is upstream from and then work at
the river upstream from Hamilton and used to go camping
there and with the Scouts and all that carry on.

(01:47:29):
But all had and he was a bit of a
hard case.

Speaker 3 (01:47:34):
I've never met a Howd and it's not a name
you know. I came across very often.

Speaker 19 (01:47:38):
No, well, the big name in Hamilton used to be
Howden Jewelers in the main in the main Street, across
the road from the Hamilton Hotel in the Main Street,
which is now being rebuilt there into a big new
sort of theater complex sort of it is. Yes, so
we all had and.

Speaker 3 (01:47:57):
So that you got you got your Christmas meal planning.
Have you killed him?

Speaker 6 (01:48:01):
Yeah?

Speaker 19 (01:48:02):
I think I told you the other day, didn't I?

Speaker 18 (01:48:04):
Yeah?

Speaker 3 (01:48:04):
Where are you going? McDonald's?

Speaker 17 (01:48:06):
I'm going.

Speaker 20 (01:48:09):
No.

Speaker 19 (01:48:10):
The I call a Kentucky fry a chicken you probably
call a KFC.

Speaker 3 (01:48:17):
Have you chicked they're open, they will be A.

Speaker 19 (01:48:19):
Yeah, I was wrong when I said to you that
the zoo was going to be open.

Speaker 3 (01:48:25):
You're right, because it should be open.

Speaker 19 (01:48:27):
It should be open to you. Well, I'm eighty three,
so I am okay to get one thing mixed up,
and you did.

Speaker 3 (01:48:33):
Kelvin Over, I don't make personal compers, but you do
sound like you're in very good spirits at the moment.

Speaker 19 (01:48:39):
Well, I I am speaking. When I'm speaking, I'm always
in good spirits. But my old body is packing up.
I've got prostrate cancer, so I'm starting to get aches
and pains and all that carry on.

Speaker 3 (01:48:49):
Is the prognosis good for that? Calvin?

Speaker 19 (01:48:51):
No, Well, once, when you've got prostrate cancer, you know
that a lot of people don't know much really about it.
But if the cancer is still inside the prostrate, they
can remove the whole prostrate and then give you other treatment.
But once it's outside the prostrate. Mind going by the
extra and that I was up in the hospital last
week or just a few days ago, what's today, Thursday, Friday, Thursday, Friday, anyway,

(01:49:13):
early on in the week, and according to the X ray,
it's gone into into my left hip. But I mean,
I can't feel it or anything. But the cancer does
spread into organs and all that sort of caring and bones,
and it attacks the bones evidently. And I don't know.
I suppose you get weakened bones and get broken bones
and that I'm not quite sure.

Speaker 3 (01:49:34):
I'm certainly saitined to hear that. Are they giving you
the information you need and the support.

Speaker 19 (01:49:39):
Well, I've got a little pack they gave me. The
doctor of the hospital, they gave you a little pack.
I've got four different, four different little booklets. So I
started reading two and there's so much information. I haven't
got around to the other two yet. You know, But
as long as you wake up and carry on the
same that when I go to the movies every every week,

(01:50:00):
and people most people who had prostrate cancer, because only
applies to men. You have urine problems, you know, you
want to go quite so when I go and see
a two hour movie, I got to come out after
an hour, have a slash, and then go back in again.

Speaker 3 (01:50:19):
So you say you got go to a next session.
You go back to the same session.

Speaker 19 (01:50:25):
Yeah, come out for five minutes, have a slash.

Speaker 3 (01:50:27):
Oh, cheapers, Okay, what's your movie? What's the best movie?

Speaker 19 (01:50:30):
Of the year, Calvin the best movie of the year.
I can't remember now, I can't remember. There's been a lot.
I normally go on a Tuesday, leave my car home
and get the bus into town. When I come out
of the hospital on Tuesday afternoon, walked across the road
because I went up there in the bus, so I

(01:50:52):
was going to go home this when I come out,
walk across the road and a gray and blue bus
came along Whitepaw which comes from Tiamudu to Hambleton. So
I said to the driver, you're going into the Hamilton
bus tape. He said yeah, he said, this is a
brand new bus electric what So I got on that beautiful,
beautiful smooth ride and they're all paid for by Winston

(01:51:13):
by Winston Peters.

Speaker 3 (01:51:14):
Goodness. Well, at least they've seen you in good time,
Calvin and the health system. Yeah, they saw you when
you wanted to.

Speaker 19 (01:51:24):
Well, you just you go. You know, they they do
get behind some of us. I went to see the
hospital in July and they were supposed to contact me
two months later, so there, you know, they do get
things muddled up. And when I go to my own
doctor sometimes she says, oh, has the doctor been in
contact with you yet you know, and there's a hospital

(01:51:45):
in contact with you and am.

Speaker 13 (01:51:48):
So.

Speaker 19 (01:51:48):
Sometimes everything's all up to date, other times they are
a bit behind, a bit of a mystery.

Speaker 20 (01:51:53):
Ca.

Speaker 3 (01:51:53):
Well, nice to hear from your Calvin and you take
care and talk to you in the new year.

Speaker 1 (01:51:59):
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