Like soil erosion (24 September 2025)

Marcus talks volcanic eruptions, in particular the 1995 eruption of Mt Ruapehu.

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Speaker 1 (00:07):
You're listening to the Marcus lush Night's podcast from News Talks.

Speaker 2 (00:11):
I'd be.

Speaker 3 (00:14):
Greetings, welcome guys, Wednesday hump day Marcus, the last humpo
before daylight savings. And that's that's read. It kicks on
a summer. Do you get that feeling? I do, sure.
It's almost light driving to work tonight. By the way,
you zeven twenty five twenty against South African the But
I'll keep you updated with that throughout the next I
have a much longer that go will be half an

(00:35):
hour or so whatever. That's a situation to hittle twelve.
If anything goes tonight, it's open mind talk back right
through to twelve. So I've got something to say. Now's
a good time to say. If you want to set
the agenda, feel free come through. I don't mind an
agenda cetter as long as they are not a single
issue well I don't even know what they are. But
you know, if you want to set the agenda, feel

(00:56):
free takes the pressure off me. Sometimes. If you want
to be the agenda shit, et cetera, then we've got
that one on Tim Beverage along from Midnight tonight. There
are rained warnings also plenty of Gisbon tight a fifty
until toorrow morning and so on the Crown Range and
also the Milford Sound Road overnight. So do what you will.

(01:26):
I mean, I don't think many people go to Milford
Sound the middle of the night. Will they order Mount
Cook because either going to charge for you to park
your car there. Good luck with that cheap is no
one's going to pay. The backpackers won't just put ahead
of twelve looking foot to what you've got to say?
Oh eight hundred and eighty teddy and nine to nine
to de text. Feel free to come through if you
want to set the agenda. As I've said other one,

(01:46):
I've got topics by the way too, what today almost today?
It's thirty years. It's thirty years since the eruption of
Mount Who are peer who? So I don't know if
there is something you experienced. It was a time in
my life. I was one of those people that always
said I was going to go to see it and didn't.
Next you go and watch that eruption if you've got
memories of that. It went for a while. Arran was

(02:12):
good luck, not good management that no one was killed.
So yeah, Blue September nineteen ninety five, lahas thundering down valleys,
plumes a spoke. Of course, the lajazare because the valley
that the lake at the top breaches its walls, which
are made out of ash and lava. So it went

(02:35):
and the unrest lasted for a long time, lasted to
the middle of nineteen ninety six. I didn't realize it
went so long. Closed highways, closed airports. It made power
cuts because pylon shorted, and it damaged the turbines and
hang a poor power station. Two thousand sheep were held

(02:59):
grazing on ash covered pastures, yep smoking, DEBI went twelve
k's high, and rocks were throwing one point five k's
from the crater. So you've got any memories of the
great eruption of nineteen nine, Let's hope it goes again

(03:19):
under control. I'd like to see it properly. Yeah, So
if you're involved or have memories of seeing the eruption
of who a peer who in that year, let me
know what that was like. It was the biggest when
it erupted. It was the biggest eruption in fifty years.

(03:40):
So it's a big deal. And a lot of people
were driving down to look at it. I wasn't one
of those. But if you've got memories of the eruptions
to a peer who this day, for this day, this day,
about thirty years ago, let me know. I'd like to
talk about that. Eruptions. You don't see many in your
life unless you go to which are the ones that

(04:01):
go strong boli? And are they the ones? The big
ones that happened around the world. But they are quite
a remarkable thing, aren't they when you see footage of
the ones. And that one's at Hawaii, So if you
went to see that, let me know what that was like,
your memories of that one. It's a good topic for
me to start off with. I think listen to me
giving myself on a check. I kind of wish i'd gone,

(04:22):
but we thought it was going to keep her up
doing forever. Then it promptly stopped. Yeah, I didn't realize
all those sheep were killed. The sheeps, so it's sad. Peter,
this is Marcus, Welcome, good evening.

Speaker 4 (04:37):
Yep. I remember it clear as a bell.

Speaker 3 (04:39):
Tell me more.

Speaker 4 (04:41):
I was from the streetraw. My truck driver I was
hit himself out of tow raw and it was like
driving in the dark like you, was sent shore on
the wipers and they told us not between our windstrey
vipers on because it would scratch all our windscreen.

Speaker 5 (04:56):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (04:59):
So it was a middle of the day. That it
was a middle of the day. It all just got
clouded over and dark.

Speaker 5 (05:02):
Is that right?

Speaker 4 (05:04):
Exactly? So I carried I got off the top of
the National Park here on top of the desert, and
it was clear as a bell. So I caught the
truck up. He got outside and you couldn't even hear
it rum but everything was going north or spoken everything
for the hesh.

Speaker 3 (05:20):
So, yeah, Kate, and didn't keep going for a while.
Do you remember were you driving that same route each time?
Do you remember seeing it for days and weeks?

Speaker 4 (05:29):
Nah, I don't. I don't remember that badness, but I
just remember that particular day.

Speaker 3 (05:34):
Okay, that's brilliant. Good to hear from you, Peter, appreciate that.
There we go memories of ape who interrupted thirty years ago.
Today it's the only one. It's the only one we've
had in the last eighty five years. I wish I'd
done more on gone and seen it. When you can't,
you can't regret in life, can you, but volcan next
time there's a volcano, let's hope there's one soon, a
safe one. I'm there all in belt On because Auckland

(05:57):
could go. Oh that'll affect your suburbs with special character.

Speaker 2 (06:03):
Why not?

Speaker 3 (06:05):
Oh wait one hundred and eighty two n nine two.
You might have seen other volcanoes or other options. You
might have been one of those two who could broaden
out to vulcanism all around. Really, if one's kind of fester,
you might have been to Itna. You might have been
to Iceland. You might have been to Hawaii, Killawaya or
something like that. Be in touch. You ought to be
a part of it. Fourteen past eight. These other stuff
that will happen. I'll tell you about that. Yeah, year

(06:26):
more than welcome. Oh wait her at eighty taty and
nine two nine to detext r K has said, remember
the day vividly. It's a Rachel working a vote to
do it that day and the whole town was covered
in ash and went dark. Cars, streets, houses all covered
in ash, very gray, aerie and surreal. Now looking at

(06:48):
the map, that's quite a long way for the esh
to have flown, and a sure, well how far away
would it would be from the summit of Rupe. Who
would be a while, wouldn't it? Would it be fifty k's?
I think it'll be more. I'll google map it tell you.
I didn't realize because at the time I didn't realize
that was a big story that flew that far. So

(07:08):
it's further than that. Actually, I'll find out for you.
Get in touch you on addnything to this discussion. I'd
like to hear from you tonight, Mountain mount Pee, who
come on, come on? Oh wait, one hundred and eighty eight. Oh,
it's a long way by drive. It's only giving me

(07:30):
by drives one hundred andy five k's. So it must
have been the way the wind was blowing that that's
why people got That's why that got erupted on. Thanks
Rachel Aerie and Surreal that's what we want. Fifteen past day, Kevo,
Kevin Marcus, welcome.

Speaker 6 (07:52):
Marc Secur, you from Wakefield from you just talked about VODCA. Just'
your radio again and always listen to your show because
ye're good as you should top show. Yeah, yeah, and
we were matt Ue Kaido and yeah, my wife's cousin.

(08:17):
Any else's who took the boys out there and few mates,
who say, and the actually the mountain erupted during the night,
and we were sitting there looking out the window and
we were watching this red hot st the stuff coming
out of the.

Speaker 7 (08:35):
Coming out of it.

Speaker 8 (08:37):
So were you up there?

Speaker 3 (08:38):
Were you up there when it happened?

Speaker 6 (08:41):
Yeah, yeah, it's just it's this.

Speaker 3 (08:43):
Is this is a nineteen ninety five It would have
been about it.

Speaker 6 (08:48):
Yeah, there'd be a bit right, yeah, Jerrial been ninety
is at ninety who's.

Speaker 3 (08:55):
Born ninety ninety maybe five?

Speaker 6 (08:58):
This is nineteen ninety five. No, no, this is a
bit later or not, about sixteen or seventeen. So yeah,
And this mountain was just roughing, and I was going
boom boom, was fleshing out.

Speaker 9 (09:11):
Streets of stuff.

Speaker 10 (09:13):
You know.

Speaker 6 (09:14):
Well, we're all certainly going, wow, this is pretty cool.
We weren't even skills, so it was so amazing. It
was pretty cool.

Speaker 3 (09:23):
Who was it go on the background, Kevin, what was
that noise?

Speaker 6 (09:27):
Oh no, no, don't worry, that was no Sorry, let's
turn the computer off, sorrow.

Speaker 11 (09:31):
Sorry.

Speaker 3 (09:32):
Oh yeah, it's a computer. James Marcus, James Marcus, welcome.

Speaker 9 (09:36):
Hi Marcus, Hi James, Ye gotcha.

Speaker 6 (09:43):
Yep.

Speaker 3 (09:43):
Can you hear me yeat loud and clear receiving.

Speaker 12 (09:47):
Yeah, yeah, I'm talking about.

Speaker 3 (09:51):
Yeah, sure, off you go, yep.

Speaker 9 (09:53):
Yeah.

Speaker 12 (09:54):
And I remember very well actually we were skiing their
day onto on the tourist side, and it was it
was it was towards the end of the day and
we were just coming off the mountain, and I remember
this technique at looking down the mountain at a woman
looking back up who was in an absolute state of shock,

(10:14):
and I turn around and the whole sky is just
full of ash and clouds. But actually amazing I listened
to your from the earlier cause one of the amazing
things was I don't recall any noise. It was just
but the whole sky was completely blanketed.

Speaker 3 (10:31):
Had they been talk about it, had the mountain been
rumbling beforehand, with their.

Speaker 12 (10:35):
Warnings, they'd been talk about it, and I know they'd
been measuring that the temperature, ye'd be yep, yeah. And
I recall during the day there's sort of whispy steam
coming up. It was a very beautiful day, so you
could you could see bits of steam coming up, but nobody,

(10:56):
nobody thought anything underward at all. So it was completely
shocked when it. When it happened, it must have been
about three thirty or four o'clock from memory.

Speaker 3 (11:05):
Just to get this right, James, is there always come
a little bit of as it were, bit like White Island?
Is there always a little bit of steam coming off
the top? Or is that itself quite rare?

Speaker 13 (11:14):
No?

Speaker 12 (11:14):
I think that, Well, that was pretty unusual. Okay, you
see a lot there in those days.

Speaker 3 (11:18):
Yeah, and then that was it for the season, was it?

Speaker 12 (11:22):
I think so? Yeah, I'm pretty sure. Well I was
probably reasonably late in the season anyways, in the.

Speaker 3 (11:27):
Midst of but yeah, innocent tempers.

Speaker 12 (11:30):
Late, Yeah, exactly.

Speaker 14 (11:32):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (11:33):
So did you hang around and watch it or did
you get was there was there a sense of let's
get out of here or what was the what was
the vibe at the time you left?

Speaker 15 (11:41):
Right?

Speaker 3 (11:42):
Yeah?

Speaker 12 (11:42):
Yeah, as I said, it was getting near the car park,
there's a bit of a sense of panic. Yeah, the
I did have time to take a few photos. And
then actually the scariest but was getting off the mountain.
A friend of mine's girlfriend was driving down down the
down the road back to Oakeney, and that that was terrifying.

Speaker 6 (12:04):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (12:04):
I got to mention, and what's interesting you had time
to take a couple of photos. Well, it's not like
today when everyone's got a camera that becomes slot. It's
a bit more benefit in those days, isn't it exactly?

Speaker 12 (12:13):
Yeah, yep, I've got a frame to the house. Yep,
it was a great photo.

Speaker 3 (12:18):
Well, I wouldn't mind if I look at that, James.
I appreciate you coming through. Thank you. Let's get some
more caols. Nineteen past night, Lindsey Marcus.

Speaker 6 (12:25):
Welcome you Marcus.

Speaker 11 (12:27):
Yeah, I remember bit. We repay you thing really well.
And I didn't even go and look at it, but
I it must have went for a day or two
because I was shooting at Kobe is shooting at Tierra
on a Sunday afternoon, it would have been. And I
saw this little trickle of smoke come up on oh

(12:49):
south western horizon, and it came up like a little
lily ten pointed fring, this sort of thing. And I
said to somewhere, I said, they'll be really pay They said, yeah,
any it was, And you could see it from me
here and clear blue sky and it just came up

(13:09):
just like a finger. And I don't know how far
away it is. I'm on my way home. I might
measure it when I get it.

Speaker 3 (13:17):
Fifty k's I think, So it's just it's a fear distance.

Speaker 11 (13:20):
Well a few hours drive.

Speaker 3 (13:23):
Yeah, that's right.

Speaker 6 (13:25):
Yeah, so.

Speaker 11 (13:27):
Yeah, I'm on my way home. I said, I might
measure when I get home, just to see if that is.
But yeah, we were at Tierra and you could see
it on on the right and came very high that
it was obvious to me.

Speaker 5 (13:39):
But and I think it erupted.

Speaker 3 (13:42):
I think it erupted off. And someone will tell me elsewhere.
I think it erupted off and on for a year.

Speaker 11 (13:47):
As long as that I don't looking at it.

Speaker 3 (13:50):
That's tick, that's turn fifty eight k's driving. So that's
the distance from the mountain.

Speaker 16 (13:56):
Yeah.

Speaker 11 (13:57):
Oh well, yeah, I know when when you're in a plane.
I topped the pilots and then they sat. I say,
half fair away. Do you see land? They said, had
two hundreds on the good day, they can they start
picking up lane.

Speaker 3 (14:10):
So did you go around all right? Driven for your score?

Speaker 10 (14:16):
No?

Speaker 3 (14:17):
I don't, good answer. Steve Vakus welcome. I can say
a good thank you, Steve.

Speaker 6 (14:24):
I was there working at Frocker Papa on the day
and remember it clearly. I think just a couple of things,
just listening to other callers. You're right made The eruptions
continued for about eighteen months, so I think some of
the calls around the sky a going darker, Probably not
so much on the day, but over the periods afterwards

(14:50):
leading in there. I mean, we don't We didn't have
the equipment available to be able to, I guess, measure
and indicate that there was something going on. But volcanologists
did did did. I'm earily through lake temp and what
have you thought?

Speaker 17 (15:08):
There was?

Speaker 6 (15:09):
She was warming up. We had actually the week prior
to the big eruption been privy to seeing some massive
hydrothermal eruptions because we were only a small group of
us were working up above the clouds. But back to
the day when she first went up. It was a
Saturday coming into spring, busy day on both sides of

(15:32):
the mountain, and it was clear as a bell, and
it'd been a Saturday. Luckily, we had had a good
day on the mountain, had gotten all the guests down,
and she went up sort of just after four. What
I do remember a couple of funny stories on the

(15:53):
day was there was an Auckland ranfilly she all came
on and we had a play at the base area
bar and because after it went up, we couldn't let
anyone go down the Bruce Road because the the f
Papa do we bridged or the bridge down into the
fog Apapa village as a lahar path one of as

(16:14):
a part of the emergency response, we had to close
that and Kiwi has been kiwis. After the first big
eruption and everyone went outside to watch it and then
heard that they couldn't go anywhere. Everyone quickly decided to
go back in and continue to watch the rugby game
until they were allowed to head down the hill. But yeah,

(16:39):
big big one that day. We actually tried to. We
kept people out the following day under the guise of
a police because we're in a national park. But probably
three or four days later everyone decided it was safe
enough and we actually skied.

Speaker 18 (16:57):
Well.

Speaker 6 (16:58):
The mountain was erupting for a few days and it
was only until and this was dependent on one direction
that we actually got affected by ash that we closed.
Certainly Papa and Tudor had closed earlier. A few people
say no noise, they're right, and I think probably some

(17:21):
talking about the black cloud and it was probably more
so some of the ash eruptions that followed.

Speaker 3 (17:27):
Did any ash or lava come down the fucker Papa side?
Did it come or? That wasn't nature? It was mainly
going up into the sky, wasn't it? Was there actual
laha that was the lahas or lava flows down the mountain.

Speaker 6 (17:41):
That that initial eruption that marked the date.

Speaker 14 (17:47):
And the diet so so so.

Speaker 6 (17:50):
Erupts in itself and it basically ejects all of the
contents of the crater lake and what direction that goes
is dependent on the wind. And that day it was
a good old strong southerly and hence the main that
came down off that first eruption came down this dunt

(18:13):
tit parry it's called down the main drainage towards one
of our top lift of farwys Tea and actually ran
down the main ski run as I alluded to, thankfully
we had closed.

Speaker 5 (18:26):
In our early.

Speaker 3 (18:28):
Start to do that.

Speaker 6 (18:29):
Yeah wow, came down what we call the turnpipe and
actually dismissed the base of that pharatlift by a couple
of meters. So, don't get me wrong, very lucky with
the time. And that was also the same day when
so the only one we discovered after things settled that

(18:50):
after the late that afternoon of potential people that were
in harm's way, where the group of trampers if you
remember rightly, that had been up at the Dome shelter.

Speaker 3 (19:03):
You just hang on there for six there. We'll us
come back to just headlines, but you just hanging if
you will. So that was the same day that were
they weare they were trampers on the on the mountain
that were that were at risk.

Speaker 6 (19:15):
Yeah, I think on the clean up of the aftermath
that that afternoon that was discovered and we had some
the only guys we had working at the time with
some guys riding the snowcats the grooming crew up high.
So once we figured that out, we dispatched a couple
of machines with some ski patrollers up high and there

(19:37):
was William Pike who was part of that who.

Speaker 19 (19:42):
Lost his leg.

Speaker 6 (19:45):
So that was that very same day. Yeah, so that
there was a little bit of a lead into it.
But as I alluded to, the equipment wasn't that sophisticated
back then. We were lucky really on the day with
the timing mate. There was a beautiful day, just coming
into spring, the mountain had been passed. As I said,

(20:08):
the other memory was the key was decided on sort
of stuck and after the initial glass decided to go
back in and watch the rugby. That continued for a
few days, and.

Speaker 3 (20:21):
Because it be the end of the season anyway, it
was there much damaged to equipment, or they open on
time for the next season, or was there was stuff
damaged by the ash.

Speaker 6 (20:30):
So as I said, we try. We we opened for
a few days, but eventually the s got us. As
far as on snow goes, what we did discover was,
I guess the sulfur content within the gases that a
lot of or any of the primarily up high the
lift equipment that that had any metal that was exposed

(20:51):
where the surface coating had worn off sort of almost
started to rust instantaneously. So we had a big clean
up program. The mountains settled over summer with the odder,
which which brought a lot of sights here and then
leading into the next winter. It was literally on the

(21:15):
day of all the new staff starting on the Monday
prior to opening that Saturday, just after Queen's birthday. Back
then the thing went up again with a big boom
and literally it was the first big gas eruption we
had had, and we'd had some good early snow and
that literally blanketed the mountain as I remember waking up.

(21:40):
I waken up at about seven and some of the
very first cell phones we had then got a call
and said, I think we're history, and say, if all
the new staff were already en route. We had our
inductions at the chateau back then, and literally came in
for the induction at about nine o'clock and got told
that they would get a week's worth of pay, and

(22:02):
then that was it for the season. So it continued
and interrupt it does us really well.

Speaker 3 (22:08):
A fantastic memory, Steve, thanks so much. That's to extraordinary collections.
I appreciate that the show's greater for that. Thank you
very much. Wow twenty six tonight, hold your horses with
you soon we're talking. The eruption nineteen ninety five continued
on for the next year. Also looking at the Google
Maps to it does look like there's a massive channel,
the Lahr channel, right past Fucker Papa. Yeah, yeah, it's

(22:33):
kind of extraordinary. You actually don't realize until you're over there.
But yeah, how large. That whole area is anyway, get
in touch. You've got to talk here till twelve twenty
six away from nine twenty four to nine. Good I Bruce,
this is Marcus. Welcome you Mark.

Speaker 20 (22:50):
Can you hear me roight?

Speaker 3 (22:51):
Yeah, receiving loud and clear. Thank you.

Speaker 2 (22:54):
Brilli.

Speaker 19 (22:55):
Be skinning that day right up the mountain.

Speaker 3 (22:58):
And just just chuck your radio off there just we're
on delay. So it comes to a bit later.

Speaker 19 (23:06):
Top of T Bar and Papa side ye, and there's
probably about a dozen skiers up there. We got to
the top of the T Bar and we stopped and
we just saw these I guess objects getting held into

(23:26):
the air, and probably every probably every ten seconds, I
guess the objects that we're getting thrown up. We're getting
higher and higher. It was getting It was fun to
start with, and then started getting scary quick, and a
few of us turned around and skied down real quick,
picked up our relatives at the cafe and jumped in
the car and hit it off down the mountain. But

(23:47):
it was pretty exciting time being up that close. I
don't know how many meters we would have been away
from the summer at the top of the Tea Bar.

Speaker 3 (23:56):
It will be the top of the far west t Bar.
I think so, yeah, ago, look at Google Maps, right,
it's not that far from the Summit Lake. I reckon
it's probably eight hundred meters.

Speaker 19 (24:14):
Okay, well that I mean that then it right. It's
kind of hard to get an idea of distance. But
other callers have said there was no noise, and that
was true. You probably heard the odd sort of whimph sound,
but there was no explosive sound. It was quite quiet, surprisingly,
and just how quickly it went from something very small

(24:36):
to something quite big. It only took I'm guessing maybe
a minute or less before you realized that it probably
wasn't a good place to be. And I remember that.
So it's good to think of some of those other
callers because it sort of jogged my memory and made
things a little clearer. And then I remember seeing the
next day that the Laha that came down, as that

(25:00):
previous caller described, you could sort of see see the
darkness of the black of the lahar against the like.
You know, it was quite quite amazing.

Speaker 4 (25:09):
Visually the.

Speaker 3 (25:13):
Laha came down to the east of the Bruce Road.
Did is it the way that came down that valley
sort of to the looking at the mountain to the
left of where the ski ski villagers.

Speaker 19 (25:24):
Look, I think, so I don't next you see the
lahar come down while we were up there, But it
was just when you reflected on it, saw the photos
that made it under the press and stuff, you realize
it would have been.

Speaker 14 (25:37):
It was where it was.

Speaker 19 (25:38):
I can't remember, to be honestly, if you're looking at
Google Maps, I guess it would have been. What did
that guy caught it before the not the drain part
and he gave it some name.

Speaker 3 (25:48):
Yeah, I've looked. I've looked for that and I can't
see the name of that on the map. So yeah,
I was trying to find that after we said that,
but I can't. I can't see it.

Speaker 19 (25:56):
Yeah, no, look, I can't help. But anyway, at first
hand witness, there would have been a dozen of us there,
so hopefully someone else was listening. That was the top
of the TV that day. That for o' clocks very memorable.

Speaker 3 (26:08):
And they are quite big rocks were they.

Speaker 19 (26:11):
Like would have been because they look they are pretty
big from where we were, but hard to estimate how
big they would have been, to be honest, and nothing
landed where we were, but I had the deep concern
that something would land on us. We're just the things.
We're getting so much higher each time. I thought made

(26:33):
I don't want to be here. Who knows what is
going to happen? So certain it wasn't a good place
to stop and ponder that.

Speaker 3 (26:41):
I'm not actually quite of ensure how bold how the
eruption happens. I imagine for boulders to have happened, and
what needs to happen is the lake needs to empty,
and it's just coming straight out of the out of
the vent of the volcano. I guess that was what
must be happening.

Speaker 19 (26:56):
Well, look, yeah, I would have thought so.

Speaker 16 (26:58):
I mean, it wasn't.

Speaker 19 (27:00):
It wasn't like no, I mean, who knows. It might
have been a junk of ice that it was black.
The things that coming out, we're black, and reasonable reasonable
quantity of them.

Speaker 3 (27:12):
Okay, I appreciate that call, Bruce, Thank you for that
landin away from nine. A lot of texts, I'll get
to those. We're talking about the eruption of her au
pair who that happened and it has it has erupted subsequently.
But it wasn't such a big deal. It erupted in
two thousand and seven. So that's the story there. But

(27:39):
I think there's all different kinds of eruptions. I think
that's the way it works. I'm looking at the Wikipedia
for the for the mountain, just so you know, geology eruptions. Oh,
she's a lot written about it. So there we go.

(28:02):
So do come through if you want to talk. Oh,
eight hundred and eighty nine into nine to the text.
Oh yeah, small eruption in two thousand and six, two
thousand and two thousand and seven. It's quite a big
deal that one looking forward to calls eighteen from nine
sixteen to nine Adrian, good evening.

Speaker 19 (28:22):
Hey, how are you good?

Speaker 3 (28:23):
Adrian.

Speaker 21 (28:25):
I'm actually from more and so I grew up the
under the ny that the volcano would do what it's
done for a long time. But then why, I was
living in Crost Sheets at the time, and I used
to fly to Walkron quite regularly, so the provading windows
usually are westerly, and I was on a commercial flight
and they decided to fly it. So what's unusual about

(28:47):
it is that we flew from christ Sheats to escape
at a low altitude.

Speaker 5 (28:53):
On a Boeing.

Speaker 7 (28:54):
Wow.

Speaker 21 (28:54):
So we had never been done before, so they act
around it and then from there we headed up around
the Bard fenty to arrive into Auckland. It's funny because
I traveled quite a lot, and I had traveled on
if your floats from Southeast Asia back to Auckland. Then
they rediverted around Indonesia because to some of the active volcanoes,
and so I kind of had a bit of a

(29:15):
chuckle at the time.

Speaker 3 (29:17):
Yeah, you know to getting that air shaft. That airplane
lost all four of US jets and had to glide
for a yeah. Yeah, you want to avoid that A yeah.

Speaker 21 (29:27):
And I've kind of been a bit close to some
of those ones coming down again through Indonesia.

Speaker 20 (29:31):
But it was on you.

Speaker 21 (29:32):
And like I said, I'm still a regular fire and
I always remember that. And something said. I told someone
I fell on a bowing around East Cape, only about
twenty thousand feet and it was well, I was on
the left hand side to had a bit of a nosey.
There wasn't much going on, but you could still see
and turning in the airports had resid you on them

(29:54):
as well. So in the end I flew from Auckland
through fung at a and then they said, I just
had dust on the on the airport one way here
as well, did.

Speaker 3 (30:03):
You did you mean did you mean christ Church to
fun Ada or is it fly walking? The Thugga day is.

Speaker 21 (30:07):
After crash crushes and crashes walk And then we got
on a small foot and then they said ash on
the runner here as well.

Speaker 6 (30:18):
So because I'm from the river and tribally royal as.

Speaker 21 (30:23):
Part of that, I claimed a bit of fire north
because we've got a middle meters of ash from from
our mountainside it.

Speaker 6 (30:30):
But I think this is our land now.

Speaker 3 (30:32):
I was surprised. I was in from the holidays. I
was surprised how close the mountain because you got the
U Art gallery with that window. It's striking. It's I've
never realized what a great feat. I mean, you must
see it most days and it's very clearly there isn't it.
You can see it.

Speaker 10 (30:48):
It's very beautiful.

Speaker 21 (30:48):
But also you know Wangano is on a bed of
pummas that came from the great eruption, so it just
sits and there's there's pummas everywhere below the surface, so
it's sand. And then as you go up you can
see the bowlders that came from the super eruption, but
there's that's very deep with thummas that's been there for.

Speaker 3 (31:06):
The supereruption of Lake Topel or of Lupe who total yep, okay,
nice to hear from it, Adrian, thank you thirteen to
nine old weaighte hundred and eighty to eighty. I'll get
your texts. We are talking the eruption and there's good
texts too. Oh yeah, get in touch. Welcome people. Someone says,

(31:26):
hopefully Tella Lacky does not blow its top. Well, it's Joe,
and I shouldn't say it's Jue. I hate to say
it because I'm a bit of a bit of a
volcano nut. I quite like them. Why do I like them?
I don't know. It's sort of exciting, isn't it. Sort
of talking to the kids. You always get kids excited
about volcanoes. But I don't think there's many volcanoes in

(31:48):
the world you can ski on. I think there's one
in Chile, and I think there's Mount Na, but there's
not many. So it's yeah, it's probably it's not world unique,
but certainly in New Zealand unique. I don't know how
the season went this year, actually, you know, there's all
bios and all sorts of stuff. I don't know what's
going on there.

Speaker 16 (32:08):
But.

Speaker 3 (32:10):
Yeah, get in touch if you want to be a
part of it. A twelve away from nine get in touch?
By name is Marcus welcome. Oh eight hundred and eighty
ten eighty and nineteen nine two detect. Someone has text
and said tonight as the anniversary of flight three seveny
Malaysian Airlines. I don't think so. It was eighth of

(32:31):
March twenty fourteen. This is another one. Oh, there was
one that got shot down in the Ukraine. That was
the Malaysia too, wasn't it. Thank you, petty Julie. This
is Marcus welcome in.

Speaker 13 (32:45):
A very good evening to you market.

Speaker 3 (32:47):
You n I start to recall, Julie, thanks for coming on.

Speaker 13 (32:50):
Oh, well, like you, I'm fascinated by volcanoes as well.
Mount Terrawerra erupted in eighteen eighty six. That's just out
of it's just from rot Rua there. They say the
lake rose quite considerably and actually covered the pink and

(33:13):
white terraces. There's been a bit of a dispute about that,
but I think there was an investigation and they say
that the terraces are below the lake. It's a really
fascinating story. Mount Tera were buried the village t by Rower.

(33:36):
They my grandmother, she lived a long Innui and she
was visiting her husband, who was my grandfather. He was
on building the railway. But you know, from up through
the center of the North Island and where they were staying,
they could hear the bangs from the eruption. It started

(34:00):
at two o'clock in the morning apparently. But yeah, the
very village is quite vast, donating to go and see.
Have you ever been there?

Speaker 3 (34:08):
Yes, I have. You know, I've got a walk right
around at the half of the lake too. I think
I went across the boat and you know, passed underneath
the mountain and stuff like that, and that was quite interesting. Also.

Speaker 13 (34:18):
Yeah, I've been, I've climbed, I've been up the mountain.
I've been right up to the crater edge and flying
over it. It's always fascinated me. Mount Terra Werra, that
ruape who when it was erupting where I live up
above the valley where I live in the ring Tickie Valley,

(34:42):
we could see the mountains very very clearly from my
neighbour's farm and yeah, it was fascinating to watch that.

Speaker 3 (34:53):
And you could get a view of it there obviously
right not from your own farm with the neighbors farm,
right yeah, yeah.

Speaker 13 (34:58):
Right up on the Bres extra cellphone tower up there now.
But yeah, a very very clear view of it. When
you think about the mountains, the active mountains that we have,
you can actually follow the like from White Island through

(35:21):
to Rhoda River. You can actually follow the volcanic path
if you get my drift.

Speaker 3 (35:30):
Yes, yes, yes, yes, you can see where the whole
happens along the fault line, doesn't It w's with it's
dinner and it comes through a year.

Speaker 13 (35:36):
Absolutely fascinating, absolutely fascinating.

Speaker 3 (35:40):
Nice to hear from you. Do you got a netball
score for me? Animal, Oh yeah, here we go. New
Zealand's twenty sixty two. So the Efrika forty seven and
the fourth quarter that was just a minute ago that
that's not the end score as it's close to.

Speaker 9 (35:50):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (35:54):
I don't know what's going on in netball.

Speaker 6 (35:55):
I just I just.

Speaker 3 (35:59):
Always is behind the scenes stuff in sport. You can
never get any clarity about it. I don't understand that
coach is disappearing in anyway, it's not good for fans
because fans like transparency. That's what I do like about
the NRAL. There's always TV shows where they give the
coach heaps and there's you know, if you're not transparent,

(36:19):
well they don't stand for it. So it's all out
in the open. There's press conference that people ask good questions,
so you know what's going on. I think it's important
for sport. Otherwise we feel we haven't got the ownership
on what's going on. We feel we've been kept in
the dark, and that's not good when you support your team.
By the way, Lotto six Millionaire ends that, I don't know.

(36:42):
Are we into that?

Speaker 7 (36:44):
I don't know.

Speaker 3 (36:48):
Do it bike ceased at Belmont Regional Park because of
damage because even though we're Belmont Regional parkers, I might
be Wellington actually factually, yep, do you get touch, you
want to talk. My name is Marcus Hittle. Looking forward
to what you've got to say right to the end.

(37:09):
Anything happens around the world. I bring that to you.
But we have to talk about eruptions, volcanoes. You might
have skied on some other volcano. I'd be interested to
know about that. I'm not really a skier as such,
yet you never know. It might be a sport I
take up. But they've spent some time at Herpa, but
not enough. It's actually fascinated. I flew across at one
time I was filming. I was filming the Railway series

(37:31):
and there's a guy called Harry Keyes who was a
very famous, well New Zealand, famous glaciology. He's or the
Lahar export expert. And I don't want to be I
don't want a helicopter brag. But what I was trying
to say is it was quite a long helicopter trip
as going up to look at the heart and along

(37:51):
the eastern side of the mountain. And the thing that
was staggering was once you're up there above the mountain
or helicopter, just how vast it is. It's a big area.
It's a massive area. Yeah, and you know they talk
about a moonscape and stuff like that. Well I haven't
been to the moon, but wow, it's it's a big area.

(38:14):
And I've done the crossing, the Tongue Edo crossing more
recently also, that's pretty extraordinary. And we stayed at the
Shadow one time. We actually caught the train to National
Park I think it was. But me, with all my wisdom,
thought we could walk to the shadow, which we did,
but it was you know, it was a couple of hours.

(38:36):
I thought'd be right there, but it was about twenty
k's away. But it's pleasant walk, very pleasant walk. The
shadow itself was a yeah, faded glory and all that
people our National Park, I think is where we got off.
They might have changed the name of that now. Is
that called way Madino has had a recent thing? I
think that might be. That might be what it's called now. Anyway,

(38:57):
if you got some information about that, about the eruption
or other eruptions, you've been a part of it, there
would be what I'd like to see love that on
that oh that series that mystery said, Oh that you
know what it was called the lotus, the white lotus
on the foot of Mountainer. That was amazing looking that
just bubbling away in the background. Seventy fifty eight. The

(39:20):
final score of the netball to New Zealand seventy fifty eight.
So the win by twelve. That's the score there. Just
you thought you should know that we are talking about
the eruption of Mount who Apeir Who that happened in
nineteen ninety five. And yeah, look it's been for every
good responses so far. There's been some really interesting stories
about that, and eruptions in general, and volcanoes you might

(39:43):
have visited, and volcanic cones you might have skied on.
I don't know if there's many ski fields around the
world on volcanoes. I'd say Etna would be one. There
might be one in Chile. I don't know what the

(40:04):
others are. For some people, there is a volcano ski
bucket list. Those people are known as bucketless bores, bucket
list worst invention of a name ever, I reckon bucket list, flip,
don't get me started anyway. So I don't know what

(40:30):
they are, but you might have been on one. Get
in touch, Marcus till twelve. I don't know if you
can kill on ski on mounts and Helen's maybe you can.
I'll get the text where you're talking. By the way,
there's other stuff you want to talk about to. We
are a a broad church when it comes to topics,
and it is a Wednesday, a free for all Wednesday.

(40:53):
So be in touch. You want to come through, Oh,
eight hundred and eighty ten text, be a part of it.
He's on midnight ten people jong at twelve people. Yep,

(41:18):
oh eight hundred you Hi, Richard Marcus, welcome.

Speaker 8 (41:23):
Mark, here you go.

Speaker 3 (41:24):
Good, thanks Richard.

Speaker 8 (41:26):
It's doing volcanos well, rang it out of Ireland. Are
you familiar with that? Of course you are, because you've
been up in reround Auckland. Yes, it's six hundred years old. Yes,
it's five kilometers across. So six hundred one years ago
it didn't exist and now it does. Well it did after,
you know, six hundred years ago. It's not a phenomenon

(41:50):
that is likely to well, it's not of it. It's
likely to happen again. Okay. Now, the emergency services in
Auckland and the council and various other organizations are looking
to evacuate three hundred thousand people over five day period

(42:13):
should another eruption occur, and that eruption is quite possible
to happen.

Speaker 3 (42:20):
Tell me about why you're saying, are you running for
council or something?

Speaker 10 (42:23):
No, I'm not.

Speaker 8 (42:24):
I'm just reciting what has been the Auckland Council has done.
They've they've said, oh shoot, this is going to happen again,
we'd better plan accordingly. And they are.

Speaker 3 (42:36):
But you'd be wanting to you'd wanted to evacuate more
than three hundred thousand, wouldn't you.

Speaker 8 (42:42):
Well, no, they say about three hundred thousand. They've got
five days warning.

Speaker 3 (42:47):
Just the north Shore.

Speaker 8 (42:49):
I'm just talking about anywhere in Aukland that it happens.
There's no rhyme and reason.

Speaker 3 (42:53):
Do it happening because you're gonna hit of steam on.
There's a lot more than three undred thousand people in Auckland.

Speaker 8 (43:00):
No, we're just talking about one specific area in Aukland.
Anywhere that it happens. But I think volcanic pimple pops
up could be Queen Street.

Speaker 3 (43:07):
Are you talking about you're talking about another evacuation, Yes,
a separate cone.

Speaker 8 (43:12):
Yeah, they don't. The cones don't happen that. They don't.
The cones, when they happen, become extinct. They don't become dormant.
So you've got to get a new according to what
according to gens science, you just get a second or
third or fourth you know, bingo, bingo. It's not going

(43:33):
to it's not going to happen anywhere else. It just
happens in a place, you know, don't matter where it is.

Speaker 3 (43:39):
Are you saying all the current ones are extinct or dormant.

Speaker 8 (43:42):
No, they're extinct, they're not dormant. That that's according to
gens science. I mean, I would none of scientists, but
they're saying that they're extinct and the next one will
be could be anywhere. You have five days notice. And
the point is that once it happens, the people can't
go back there. There's been nothing left. You've got magma
coming out of the ground at about two to three

(44:05):
thousand recentigrade and that's it.

Speaker 3 (44:08):
Yes, But I think if we look at where the
lava flows have gone on the existing volcanoes, and if
you look at situations like Hawaii, I think probably it's
not always that pessimistic. You can work around active lava flows.

Speaker 8 (44:21):
Hawaii is a bit different, all right, so it's on
the ring of fire. But Auckland's different, a little bit different.
I mean every volcanic eruption Auckland, if you look at that,
just look at the volcano that the extinct volcanos there.
I mean, hey, not one of those, and bingo, you've
got a problem.

Speaker 3 (44:41):
Yes, but most the eruptions have been one with like
what long lava flies have flowed out in one direction,
like the amount eat and one of the moola reef
and stuff like that. So you know, I don't necessarily
know that every that everyone everywhere needs to be evacuated.

Speaker 8 (44:54):
But no, no, no, but one group of people do,
and there'll be nothing to go back to. There'll be
nothing left.

Speaker 3 (45:01):
Where that flowers. They won't be That's it. But the
fly is not going to go. The flow is not
going to go everywhere?

Speaker 15 (45:09):
Is it?

Speaker 8 (45:11):
Well? Ranging Toto Island? Did it's five kers across? Yeah,
they're six hundred years old.

Speaker 3 (45:17):
Yeah, but that's yeah, but there might be a five
to six k shield or something like that. But yeah, okay, Richard,
thank you. Fourteen past nine eight hundred eighty eight and
nine nine two to text get in touched you on
to be a part of it. DV Marcus welcome.

Speaker 10 (45:38):
What do you do?

Speaker 9 (45:39):
I was a ruer who Robbernecker. Oh God, so I imagine,
and I go up to a winning at d R
and we I'm pretty sure we went up the Napi
Capo road to get to it. But by the way
home we said, let's go via the have a look
at this volcano. So we packed on the desert road

(46:00):
just below the summit of the desert road sets the
bottom of the car. I had a glass of wine
each toast to the mountain and watched the fire show.

Speaker 5 (46:08):
It was great.

Speaker 3 (46:10):
Could you see could you see red? Could you see flame?
Or just cloud?

Speaker 14 (46:14):
We could see.

Speaker 9 (46:17):
Lightning inside the the ejector. It wasn't it wasn't going
hard by that stage, because when it first went off,
I think a memory. They shut everything down. Everyone ran
around with the hair on fire. But by the time
we got there, the read the road was open, but
there was dust.

Speaker 5 (46:36):
Theory where we had.

Speaker 9 (46:39):
Gret on the windscreen and did in a pair of
windscreen wipers. But a thing that a lot of people
said there was those noise Where we were, there was noise,
but it was that very low rumble that shakes you
inside as opposed to being a loud noise. It's sort

(47:00):
of like what they used to do in the movie
theaters with surround sound, and they used to rattle the
place with a very low frequency noise.

Speaker 3 (47:09):
What do you think the rumble was?

Speaker 9 (47:13):
I suspect there's just the mountain. Every time it coughed,
you know, the ground shook slightly. But it was very
miserable that this low frequency rumble, and yeah, we spent

(47:33):
about half out here watching it. I'll take that off
the back of this, which you like. And that's good fun.

Speaker 3 (47:43):
It is quite a big bucket list item, isn't it.

Speaker 22 (47:47):
Yeah.

Speaker 9 (47:48):
I don't think we would have gone if it wasn't
for the fact that we're already going up to the road.
I don't think we would have come up from willing
to I wasn't Willington at the time. But yeah, it's
a it's a big it's.

Speaker 3 (48:02):
A big it's a big thing in use in royal history,
isn't it the old folk? I mean, that's that's as
good as it get.

Speaker 9 (48:10):
But yeah, doesn't getting much worse than that. No, that's
terrible almost. I must tell you the story and the
Raman and the river tack of tunnel with a passenger
train one night. But that's another story.

Speaker 3 (48:22):
Okay, they would have made.

Speaker 9 (48:25):
One man who looked like a walk of the park.

Speaker 3 (48:28):
I'll wait for that story with interest. TB. Thank you
for that. Eight hundred and eighty nineteen nine to the text. Jay,
it's Marcus welcome, okay, Marcus.

Speaker 18 (48:39):
J Hey, how's the game, mate?

Speaker 14 (48:42):
I think it's like the key about my story with
scenes a volcano up.

Speaker 3 (48:51):
Yep.

Speaker 14 (48:52):
So yeah, I had a real good view. But I
was used to be a roof of backing, backing. No, Yeah,
that ninety five, I was twenty two years old and
I was working on the route to four when it
had exploded. And and what a view was It was
such a beautiful Yes, it was great.

Speaker 3 (49:16):
And I guess you're you're right, you straight away what
it was?

Speaker 14 (49:20):
Oh, yes, because it was a beautiful clear TA could
see right across the lake in Yeah it was. But yeah,
I didn't know what it was at first, but yeah,
I had a real good view of it. Yeah, I
can't remember much of it, you know, about about the
day's lead after that, Like tell me how many days

(49:40):
it went on for, but I know we went on
for a while.

Speaker 3 (49:44):
So did you see it almost like the cloud starting up,
the head of clouds starting up and building up?

Speaker 14 (49:52):
I think, well, I saw it was some great clouds
or something, and then and then it was just is
like like things shooting up in the air. That's ho sort.

Speaker 23 (50:08):
Yeah, okay, I love the sound from across the lake.

Speaker 14 (50:11):
Yeah, yeah, to see clear as from from top, which
is what one hundred kilometers it'll.

Speaker 3 (50:17):
Be a long way. It'd be a long way.

Speaker 14 (50:19):
Yeah, absolutely, yeah, yeah, Well it was a clear, beautiful day.
I remember the days after it, you know, and there was.

Speaker 3 (50:27):
Still action the next day, wasn't there.

Speaker 14 (50:30):
Yeah, there's action for a few days, and you could
see it was always it was like drifting towards.

Speaker 6 (50:38):
Up to the east.

Speaker 14 (50:39):
That's that's where the big plumous smoke was eating night.
Didn't have that way for a couple of days after that.

Speaker 3 (50:46):
Okay, I appreciate your story, Ja, thanks for that. Nineteen
past nine nine one share. It's Marcus, welcome.

Speaker 24 (50:55):
Christ I put in the plug for the chateau. It
got to save it. But what I rang about it
was through a paper. Yes, nineteen forty five, there was
an eruption and we were living in one who just
out of Wanganui, and I collected a bottle of volcanic

(51:17):
ash that launched and lost, but it was gray and
the milk from after the cows had been eating this
pasture that contaminated with the ash. You could actually taste
the volcanic ash.

Speaker 7 (51:37):
And the milk.

Speaker 24 (51:39):
It was a bit of an off putting thing. It
wasn't very pleasant, but there was no alternative. Because there
was nothing else for the cows to eat, but everything
was covered with a gray ash and that wang Wanga
Who is about fifty miles shelf of Wanganui, so that

(52:03):
that drifted quite a long way. Yeah, it's there is
some interest there. And now I can remember we walked
up to the top of Mountain Who nineteen sixty three
and just for the develpment of it, we got up
to the lake so that I and I've got a

(52:27):
nice fato of your pay who flying over the top
from from an aeroplane, so that there's got a little
bit of interest in the in the in the place.

Speaker 3 (52:38):
Sure were in fung Airhoo for the Tanga Whie disaster.

Speaker 24 (52:46):
I kind of think, yes, I think we were.

Speaker 10 (52:50):
That was.

Speaker 24 (52:54):
We left there in nineteen fifty one.

Speaker 3 (52:55):
So yeah, I think it was later. I think it
was later than that.

Speaker 24 (53:00):
Yeah, the.

Speaker 14 (53:03):
The the.

Speaker 24 (53:09):
No, no, it doesn't matter.

Speaker 7 (53:10):
It's not the end of the World's.

Speaker 3 (53:12):
Nice to talk to you, Sean. Thank you for that.
Lovely Helena ats Marcus, welcome.

Speaker 8 (53:18):
And moved.

Speaker 25 (53:19):
I'm not well to please be with me, of course
I will. What did one volcano say to the other,
Come on my lab.

Speaker 8 (53:31):
Give it the kids.

Speaker 3 (53:33):
Very good, Okay, brilliant chiefs chriefers. We're under volcano jokes. Wow,
and we had that one and of all the volcano jokes, wow,
volcano jugs. I should have erupted into giggles, shouldn't I.

(53:54):
I don't know what the great volcano jokes are. Yeah,
it's interesting. Yeah, now get in touch. Oh wait, one
hundred eighty today, I've got good texts. I'll come to those.

(54:16):
I've got good everything tonight. Oh wait, one hundred eighty
ten eighty twenty five past nine, be a part of it, oh,
Marcus good evening. Mount Baker in Washington State is a
very famous strata volcano last r up in eighteen eighty

(54:38):
has hit a world record in nineteen ninety nine for
the most snow and single season. Very good ski fields.
Exactly how many volcanoes underneath Auckland, Well, they never know.
It's a lot, and there's more than one field. There's
a South Auckland field in the central field, and there's
places like Ornachi Basin and the volcanoes anything at Tautal
in Brown's Island. There's no shortage of them. But if

(55:01):
you go right back, even like out to the Waitaki
zero volcanics, So it depends on how far you go back.
I don't think Aukin makes enough of their volcanoes. I'm
sure overse these people's offense, I've never seen a volcano
tour who nineteen fifty three Sean was Tangawai? Hello, Doug Marcus, Oh.

Speaker 6 (55:26):
Hello, Yes, I was just thinking of tanga Wai. Hello Marcus,
by the way, but I was just thinking of tanga
Wai in relation to ruape who when when they erupted?
When who erupted in the nineties and then two thousand
and six was it.

Speaker 3 (55:40):
Two thousand and five? Yeah? And sex but five was
when the bigger uption started.

Speaker 6 (55:46):
Yes, I remember thinking at the time the big worry
for me was whether it was going to because I
can remember in fifty three when when Tangwai happened on
what New Christmas Eve I think from memory or correct
Christmas anyway, And it was a terrible thing.

Speaker 7 (56:05):
It was really terrible thing.

Speaker 6 (56:06):
I was young child at the time, and people were
openly emotional about it.

Speaker 5 (56:12):
It was really serious.

Speaker 3 (56:13):
I think not only was it a terrible I think
not only was a terrible disaster, but the the nature
of the people's death to be caught of kind of
flushed down the river in a sort of a river
full of scoria and parmesan stuff and bodies that were
that were you know badly, you know, scraped. Yeah, you
know that. You know that the people that found the body,

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it was horrific.

Speaker 6 (56:37):
These were heroic acts. People just gave their lives to
save other people and his mum. But the other thing
I was going to say was I was a teacher
at the time. I think I may have been relieving
teaching between two longer jobs when when the eruption happened,
and I think, I'm pretty sure I'm thinking of the
ninety five one. And I gave the kids a bit

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of releasing on it because I had a science class
and they loved it. They went into science a hell
of a lot. It was a boys and girls class,
but they were all really into this. And then it
started to get because we were talking about the eruptions,
and some of these eruptions like the two thousand, the
eighteen hundred years ago one, the one in the two

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hundred and six a d it was a global event
that destroyed most of the North Island.

Speaker 3 (57:29):
It's about the super vow kind of when like copeor upted.

Speaker 5 (57:33):
Yeah, well that was.

Speaker 10 (57:36):
There.

Speaker 6 (57:37):
There were two hundred to two. I'm trying to remember
the figures. Now I've wrote a boog of it. I
should be referring to it, but I'm not understood from
but the winds that came from it, the hot winds
that came from it, just basically blew everything away in

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the North Island. So if there had been a new
one here, like if there had been Mariories on Maris
or other people here at the time, they all have
wiped out. It was wiped out the whole top of
the North Island and most of the South Island as well.
The winds were just incredible.

Speaker 5 (58:15):
It was a global event.

Speaker 8 (58:16):
It was the.

Speaker 6 (58:18):
Biggest volcanic eruption in five thousand and seven thousand years globally,
and in the last twenty seven thousand we've had added
a Titanic one in the same place in Tapa. So
I was a bit worried when you were talking about
how you liked volcanoes that.

Speaker 3 (58:37):
When Toper erupted, it was a thousand times bigger than
Mountain Helen, and I think, yeah, I mean the world
went into darkness.

Speaker 6 (58:46):
Yes, and it happened again thirteen twenty four. I think
it was a thirteen fourteen a tera wera eruption, may
not its implicated, it may not have been responsible, but
there was a famine in Europe, and there was a
long winter and a famine in Europe and that, and
they've implicated terra wera in that as well. So you

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have to worry about when you're calling on it. I'd
have an explosions. Not much fun some of the time,
aren't it fair enough?

Speaker 3 (59:14):
I've got a headlines? But thanks so much to that.
Just some fact on Lake Topaul the eruption. This is
we've moved on from Lake Topau from who a period
to like topor. The last eruption was eighteen hundred years ago,
so I think that was. They don't call it ad anymore,
do they. They call it something else, b e or something.

Speaker 2 (59:30):
But that was.

Speaker 3 (59:33):
Two to five after the death of Christ. Let's call
it that the most violent eruption known in the world
in the last five thousand years. Yep, all of you
end received it really received at least one centimeter of ash.
In some areas there was one hundred meters. And it's
possible that ash from this eruption was the cause of
red sunsets recorded by the Romans and the Chinese and

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deposits from the topra. Eruption blocked the lake outlet, raising
the lake thirty four meters above its modern level, and
when that breached, a catastrophic flood was released down the
Waikata River. It's a big deal. It was the biggest.
It was the super volcano. So that's pretty interesting. Ah,

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is it I reckon? Anyone skied on another volcano?

Speaker 7 (01:00:33):
Why do I do that? Sound?

Speaker 3 (01:00:34):
It's annoying sound? Does that like a baby? Exciting things?
Next week we're getting a new text machine. Yeah, that's right.
Got no idea what that means, but I can't wait.

Speaker 6 (01:00:53):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:00:54):
The eruption in two thousand and seven only went for
seven minutes. The twenty nineteen ninety five one went for
about two years. So yeah, it's a big it's the
big it's the big deal. If you want to talk
about this, that's what we're about tonight. And it's been
very good. It's been rich hunting ground. As we say
in the talkback business Walter Walter's in Tonga High Marcus Experience.

(01:01:18):
The January twenty twenty two tongue, volcano eruption, loudest noise
ever felt, vibrations and chest saw curtains move from sound waves.
When thirty minutes at four pm, darkness fell, with volcanic
stones raining down, air filled with volcanic dust fled to
higher ground. Truly terrifying experience. Oh wow, he's got his

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highlights just covered in ash, and his roof covered in ash,
and the roads covered in ash and more of his
roof covered in ash. Maybe we shave a volcano in
our flag? Would that be the worst flag we could have?

(01:02:02):
We're pretty much our volcanic land. Would any country have
a flag with a volcano on it? Stromboli, I know
it's not a country, but it's pretty volcanic. I'm sure
some would. I can't think of one. Twenty six away

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from ten oh wait ten hundred eighty to twenty four
to ten Brett Marcus welcome, yeah, hy Brett, welcome Marcus, Yeah, Marcus.

Speaker 5 (01:02:42):
I used to pick rock up, rock up from the
crurry jem caseyeff the Terminui and when you were getting loaded,
I'll get able of the track and walk around the corner.

Speaker 16 (01:02:52):
You could see the.

Speaker 23 (01:02:52):
Layer and there was it. The sh Rayer.

Speaker 8 (01:02:56):
Yeah.

Speaker 5 (01:02:57):
Yeah, and when you look at them, the boulders were
Team twenty ten and we were so many counters from
the lake Baspi Road's probably six.

Speaker 10 (01:03:10):
What they say, so the.

Speaker 3 (01:03:12):
Bold, the bowlders and the sun okay, well.

Speaker 5 (01:03:18):
Yeah, the signs of the rocks blowing you aim with
the boulders, and.

Speaker 3 (01:03:23):
The boulders were and the soil is that right well down?
How far down were they.

Speaker 5 (01:03:29):
And it was just too big to move? There was
just you quite aperiod.

Speaker 6 (01:03:35):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:03:35):
I know there's I've don a walk around the coast
at Buckland's Beach in Auckland, you know, with the one
of Hayward to one of those books, one of those
geology books, and you can see a clear wrench layer
there in the claud where the of where the topor
eruption was. It's pretty it's it's pretty distinct everywhere. And
you did because it went everywhere. Yes, you're still at
the quarry there, Brett.

Speaker 5 (01:03:58):
No, I'm SIMI retired, congratulated.

Speaker 3 (01:04:01):
I shouldn't take you ready. It was in bad Yeah,
commiserations Janets. Marcus Welker, Hi.

Speaker 10 (01:04:07):
There, Marcus. I had four points to make. One. I
remember a lady looking at her house near Taranaki, and
she said, oh, what a wonderful view of them, of
that mountain, and they went far away from it, and
I thought, she doesn't obviously know, but Mount Taranaki it's

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a live volcano. So that's one point. Another point, some
cruise ship with an Auckland and people could go in
the helicopter and do an aerial viewing of Auckland, and
the pilot was saying that there are fifty six volcanoes

(01:04:52):
in the Auckland area a dorman obviously except for r
Linga Toto. And I knew when I lived in Tokaroa
that lake is underneath a layer of volcanic eruption covered

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the whole lake. And the town is sitting on top
on the lake that's underneath.

Speaker 3 (01:05:24):
Yeah, and the water is the water below it.

Speaker 10 (01:05:30):
Yeah, a lake, wow, underneath the cover.

Speaker 3 (01:05:36):
And I like the saying please, you're not there. That
sounds terrifying.

Speaker 10 (01:05:41):
Yeah. I remember when there was some eruption.

Speaker 3 (01:05:45):
That this woman from this woman from Japan Mount Fuji stelective.

Speaker 10 (01:05:52):
Yeah, with the oh, now I forgot what the fourth I.

Speaker 3 (01:05:58):
Think we've got. We've got we've got a number of volcanoes,
we've got the lake beneath it. I think we've had four,
have we? No?

Speaker 10 (01:06:07):
The last one? There are three, a big, big mess
of volcanoes in the world, three of them. One that's
road to r one is open somewhere near the Philippines
on some island, and the other one is the Green Canyon.

(01:06:28):
I think it is, well, uh, the Grand Canyon or
that park have forgotten now it's all you know, Yes,
but those three they erupt one doubts every so many years,

(01:06:50):
and so it's one jew apparently to blow.

Speaker 3 (01:06:55):
Can you see can you see matape who from where.

Speaker 10 (01:06:58):
You are, no might be able to upstairs on a
clear day. It's quite a big mountain range between us.

Speaker 3 (01:07:10):
Yeah, okay, but did you see the did you see
the eruption in twenty nineteen ninety.

Speaker 10 (01:07:15):
Five, nineteen ninety five, Well, I didn't see it. There
was a lot of ash fall out and I covered
the car.

Speaker 22 (01:07:25):
Yeah, I was covering the house and every William people
were breathing of them.

Speaker 3 (01:07:30):
Wow, right now, you should wear a mask. Did you
wear a mask?

Speaker 10 (01:07:35):
Jen didn't have masks and no day really tough tough people.

Speaker 3 (01:07:41):
Yeah, but yeah, but you're are sensible people. Yeah, gen
nice to hear from you, Jen Jen nineteen to ten,
sixteen to ten. Hello Gary, this is Marcus. Welcome Marus, not.

Speaker 6 (01:07:57):
To change your max you too.

Speaker 2 (01:08:01):
Yeah, so I just picking up on a point from
Jen who mentioned but or so I live in Karanaki
and yes we have an active volcano and mouth Karanaki
Mountique won't call them when your life.

Speaker 26 (01:08:16):
Is a bit of debate on that nowadays.

Speaker 3 (01:08:18):
But are they debating it again?

Speaker 6 (01:08:21):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:08:23):
The debate sort of never goes away, but.

Speaker 3 (01:08:25):
Depends we Oh, I thought I thought it was just
if you want to sort of realized that that's what
what it was called. Anyway, Probably discussion for another day,
I hope.

Speaker 2 (01:08:34):
Yeah, that's right. So I lived here my whole life.
And twelve eighteen months ago I think I went to
a seminar in New Plymouth and there was talk about
this volcano and one of the key statistics was the
fifty charts that it's going to go in the next
fifty years.

Speaker 3 (01:08:54):
I read that, and it does go.

Speaker 2 (01:08:57):
They think it's going to go something like Matthison Helens
did in the nineteen eighties in America. And yes, so
this the seminar sort of looked at the impacts of
what that might do to the region. Obviously a big
dairy farming region in Tartanaki, and so there's I think
four hundred and fifty thousand livestocks and region. Yeah, and

(01:09:22):
you know the impacts on that and when well not
but when she goes you know, massive, and we talked
about things like, you know, how do you deal with
four hundred thousand livestock carcasses after a massive eruption And
basically we don't really know how how we would handle
her such an event. So a lots like that, you know,

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all of the main highways region.

Speaker 3 (01:09:48):
Sorry are you a farmer?

Speaker 2 (01:09:51):
No, I just live in the region, have done for
a long time.

Speaker 3 (01:09:55):
I wonder because once it started rumbling, did they ever
talk at that meeting about premptively evacuating all the livestock?
Was that talked about? Would that just be impossible? Yeah?

Speaker 2 (01:10:06):
No, they did, but basically they came to the conclusion
that it would be impossible. So from memory, they sent
something like it would take between four to six months
to get rid of all the livestock and region using
trucks and.

Speaker 8 (01:10:20):
What have you.

Speaker 2 (01:10:22):
Number of animals we've gone, so it's basically off the table.

Speaker 6 (01:10:26):
So yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:10:27):
They then sort of moved to you know, how do
you deal with that many dead animals?

Speaker 17 (01:10:34):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (01:10:34):
So, you know, just an interesting point, you.

Speaker 3 (01:10:36):
Know, Gary, Gary, I interrupted you when you were saying
alongside that. You've got alongside that for me as well.

Speaker 2 (01:10:44):
Oh sorry, Yeah, so the saying the roads of the
roads in Taranaki, so all of our main highways, they
cross over all of our main waterways which come off.

Speaker 3 (01:10:55):
Our course of course, of course, and so when.

Speaker 2 (01:10:58):
She goes, of course, you know, everything comes down the
waterways and basically all of our bridges are gone. So transport.
That was another reason why can't get rid of the
livestock you see too? You know that the roading networks
would be buggered.

Speaker 3 (01:11:11):
So yeah, and you guys, you guys, you guys are
philly isolated there anyway. I mean you're going to go
south or north, down through up through you know north.
You can't really go east Kenya because the roads a
dog track. I mean, it's going to be a hard
province to evacuate when it blows.

Speaker 19 (01:11:29):
That's right.

Speaker 2 (01:11:29):
Yeah, we're pretty we're pretty buggered, to be fair. But
one other point, just quickly, I don't want to waste
your time, so The main substation in Taranaki is located
in Stratford, right, which is due east of the mountain. Yep,
our prevailing winds come from the west, so most of
our wind blows in from the west. If we get

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three mills of ash fall on our on our power lines,
on our main substation, which is due east of the mountain,
directly where the wind blows, three mills of ash is
enough to destroy or you know, cut the power to regions.
So there was another key point that I remember. You know,
basically we're bug it.

Speaker 27 (01:12:10):
But anyway, yes, what.

Speaker 6 (01:12:12):
Do you do?

Speaker 3 (01:12:14):
Garyus did care as much of a problem? That sounds callous,
But would they need to have a way to get
rid of those or was that a lesser problem?

Speaker 15 (01:12:23):
Oh?

Speaker 2 (01:12:23):
Look, we talked about digging holes. We talked about you know, well,
what can you do with one hundred and fifty thousand
dead animals, Like, you know, ideally, you know you're not
going to lose too many, but by all accounts, it's
it's a pretty grave situation. So what do you know,
You do have to go hole, you have to get
rid of them somehow. But yeah, I mean it's a

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bit of an eye opener to be honest, Marcus. So yeah,
just I just thought I give you a call anyway.

Speaker 3 (01:12:51):
Fascinating call, Gary, absolutely fascinating.

Speaker 6 (01:12:53):
Thank you for that.

Speaker 3 (01:12:54):
Ten to ten Angel the good evening.

Speaker 22 (01:13:01):
Oh Marcus, I live Mousla and I was I'm tired now.
I was still teaching and it was just the most
beautiful spring day, blue blue skies and it was about
half as ten. The kids were going out for morning
you know, the morning tea, and suddenly this graay club.

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We said, oh, it wasn't meant to rain, and we thought, oh,
I get kids and you know, and all the rest
of it. And that was just this ash and all
the street lights came on because they were activated by
the darkness those those and yeah, it was amazing and
we just had probably for about six months later there

(01:13:43):
was you know, you just drive anywhere and it was
there was this ash still in the gutters and of this,
you know, the sides of the roads. And my husband
was working. He was he's a beat while he's retired now,
but he was a beekeeper and he was right there
looking after the shadow bees when it exploders. So that

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was quite a fighting. But no, and then a friend
of mine was nursing, and she said quite a few
people came in with broken limbs because they were up
on their roofs sweeping the ash off the off the
roofs and slid off the roofs. So yeah, but it
was the most such a and just had this ash

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just coating all your cars and everything, and it was
just unbelievable. Could unbelievable?

Speaker 3 (01:14:35):
Could you taste the ash? Angela? Was it something that
you became aware when around?

Speaker 22 (01:14:38):
Yeah, yes, it was very well, you know when we
realized what is that it wasn't rain or it wasn't fog,
and we just put the kids inside and I think
just the body be school and was or got the
kids the kids home, but it was just ah and

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how dark it got, you know, how it was like dusk.
It was like just before the sunset. It was just
just unbelievable.

Speaker 3 (01:15:08):
It was just and it was a white.

Speaker 10 (01:15:10):
The ash was a white, was very gray, very gray white.
It was like it was like fog.

Speaker 22 (01:15:17):
It was like sort of bad London smog. It was, yeah,
it was, but it was this beauty. It was that
tap from Topel was saying when he was on the
roof and you know that it was a beautiful day.
And yeah, it was just crazy. And remember they had
those maps in the paper that showed the ash where

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the ash cloud.

Speaker 10 (01:15:38):
Was across it.

Speaker 3 (01:15:40):
I don't look, I don't know. Was it as a
warning type thing.

Speaker 22 (01:15:46):
I think it was to do with aviation, but just
I think it was the first public interest sort of
thing as well. That they just had some satellite shots
of of of the ash cloud across you know, sort
of it went up from Topol from Roeho and up
towards over to Takatana and up that way. It was

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sort of like a cone went up north and east.

Speaker 3 (01:16:14):
I remember those I remember those four.

Speaker 20 (01:16:16):
I'm looking at one now, yeah, I guess.

Speaker 3 (01:16:19):
And it looks it looks like it looks like half
a flower with one big one going out down south
southeast over and then one over is one of is caper,
then the narrow one over towards like you said, yeah,
and it's got up to ten up to ten millimeters
in some areas too.

Speaker 13 (01:16:38):
Yeah.

Speaker 22 (01:16:39):
And what that chat was saying from Tanamucky, you know
that when you know, what what.

Speaker 17 (01:16:44):
Would you do?

Speaker 3 (01:16:45):
It was just it was cows.

Speaker 22 (01:16:47):
Yeah, it just would be like when they had to
kill them all in England.

Speaker 2 (01:16:53):
You know the Mad Cow.

Speaker 22 (01:16:56):
Yeah, yeah, just that would that would be very devastating,
especially if something in Tarmatin, Makoto an all from blue Eye,
you know, one of those dormant things low up.

Speaker 10 (01:17:09):
Yeah, it's pretty well.

Speaker 3 (01:17:12):
I'm always amazed. I spent most of my life in
Auckland'm amazed at people in Auckland don't make It's not
more top of mind because earthqaveryone's obsessed with earthquakes and tsunamis.
But I've always thought of much greater. But I think
the belief is that everyone will get quite a bit
of warning. But look, I don't know what you would do.

Speaker 22 (01:17:28):
Well, well, you know when you I mean I used
to live in Auckland, and I talk and Alcor and
we used to take the kids of the intermediate school
I went to every year.

Speaker 10 (01:17:36):
We took them and I.

Speaker 22 (01:17:38):
Came in and it wasn't somewhere in lunt Eden, and
we used to walk them through somebody's back garden and
they had a big cave in.

Speaker 3 (01:17:45):
Some fantastic probably a landscape road is some.

Speaker 22 (01:17:48):
Fantastic Yeah, somewhere like that year. Just you know, and
when you see all these huge love flows and the
holes I mean this caves were enormous, so were two
or three stories high, these huge, huge and the ones
I think under Albert Parker like that too.

Speaker 3 (01:18:09):
Yeah, I would imagine. I would imagine though, that the
flows would be quite slow and obviously when they get
your house together and destroy it, but it's not going
to be you know, don't you know? I think you
get get to a three D peckle your belongings and
get your get your past your valuables and get I
imagine they have time to get out of there.

Speaker 2 (01:18:29):
Well.

Speaker 22 (01:18:29):
I mean, you know when you see those photos of
of of the of the ones over in Hawaii recently,
I mean those seems people seem to have nothing. But
I mean look at Monte Video and all of that.
I mean Cristo Island stuck.

Speaker 3 (01:18:46):
Oh yes, and there was Yeah, that's right because I
read all the kids the disaster books and there was one.
There was one volcano that just killed everyone apart from
a couple of people in a cell. Was that montev
Is that a Caribbean island?

Speaker 22 (01:19:00):
Yes, yeah, yeah, it's on that bring a fire part
of that one. But yeah, I mean when was actually
like the seventies or something. The whole time.

Speaker 3 (01:19:10):
You know, there was one earlier on that killed the
whole country. I'll find out what that one was. Actually,
I've got a NK go and news. Hang on, hold
your horses, Barbara.

Speaker 2 (01:19:18):
I know you there.

Speaker 3 (01:19:18):
I can see you, see you, Barbara, and we'll be
back after the news if you want to come through. Yeah,
I look about that island that killed everyone. That was amazing.
Any who eight hundred and eighty ten eighty and nine
two nine two de text seven past ten. Barbara, this
is Marcus. Welcome, Oh good morning.

Speaker 28 (01:19:36):
I'm believing you should say Marcus. I was a boarding
school in Stratford in the early nineteen fifties and we
used to watch when Narajo was erupting. We could see
the lava rolling down the side of the mountain. In
the fifties, there's a great bright red you know, stripe

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rolling down the mountain. By word, I've never forgotten that.

Speaker 8 (01:20:01):
Now.

Speaker 3 (01:20:01):
I find that very interesting. I didn't even know you
could see the mountain from Strattord, but of course you can.
It's not that far away, is it.

Speaker 28 (01:20:06):
Oh yeah, well no, well, I mean those mountains and
Eggmarn't they're right sort of close to be in a
straight line and there's nothing high in between them, so
that was quite interesting. Yeah, and I can't remember what
year it was. I did one of those boat trips
to White Island and there's a very nice, lover bubbling

(01:20:28):
lake there that was really good. It was bubbling away beautifully.
And then it was only about a few weeks later
that Betty rapted like hanging. I think White Island has
been blocked off ever since then, hasn't it.

Speaker 1 (01:20:39):
Oh?

Speaker 3 (01:20:39):
Yeah, I don't think I think that ended badly, didn't it.
I don't think people would want to go there for
a while.

Speaker 20 (01:20:45):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:20:45):
We were in Fakatani with my partner and our brand
new baby, and I just thought it was an advising
But I wish I had gone to White Islands. I
would have loved to have gone on there because it
does look spectacular.

Speaker 8 (01:21:01):
Yeah.

Speaker 28 (01:21:01):
Well, it wasn't very long after we were there that
it did a proper eruption. It was interesting just watching
it all bubbling. And isn't there one of the central
lakes sort of round road ru away that whilst it's
nice and calm at the top, it's bubbling pretty well
underneath all the time.

Speaker 3 (01:21:19):
Now, I don't know about that.

Speaker 28 (01:21:21):
Yeah, I believe there is anyway, but that's that's my
erupting type of stories.

Speaker 3 (01:21:28):
Very good. Thank you, Thank you so so much for
just what I was going to say before I'm going
to say some long wooded story before the news. I
forgot what. The other island too that I have been
to is erupting is Raoul Island, which is in the
Kermadex And that's kind of amazing because that's got a
big lake that's just always sort of bubbling away too.
That's quite volcanic, in quite an aerie way. I thought,
I keep it going. We'll talk about the eruption sort

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of volcano. It's sort of if I can get a literation,
it's sort of erupting Wednesday. That's not quite right. I
could do better, Gordon, this is Marcus Welcome.

Speaker 8 (01:22:01):
Yeah.

Speaker 23 (01:22:01):
I know this astin tamer Nui was born there on
now in August time ninety now. I remember the eruption
and Mount RuPay, the walkt the Walker Paper river rumps
into the Wanganui River at the past for Periata. That's

(01:22:26):
where it joins in the headwaters of the the standing
on the bridge at Mananui, he could the river was
with e salt gray like porridge flowing down the river
very slow, and he looked on the side of the
river bank and his eels and trout they were all dead.

(01:22:51):
And then after that, after about two weeks, we went
up the mountain with the shadows. Army trucks just commit
the down fights on the the buildings up there. They
didn't want the the silk getting into the water tanks.

Speaker 3 (01:23:12):
That makes sense.

Speaker 23 (01:23:14):
It's gone back a long way.

Speaker 3 (01:23:16):
Yeah, it's good memory. Yeah, you know, it's very good Gordon,
thank you for that. Very good Larry Marcus, welcome.

Speaker 20 (01:23:25):
Hi Marcus. Yeah, a lot of that silk went down
into the Tongariro River as well, killed a lot of
the lot of the trout would Yeah, yeah, I was
looking about about ninety ninety five we were still doing
from Pami. It was Doddley. Then we were doing aerial
photography quite sometimes it's possessing it up for the hawks pain.

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I remember there was over that year. There were a
number of times when when there was a whistley that
that you know, there was you couldn't fly towards Napier.
It was you know, because of the ash there. You know,
there was civil aviation mornings basically, so they told which
vectors were available. So it's sort of they did carry

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on for quite a while. Just a volcano that I've
been on up in Colombia, it's called Nevado del ruers
are u is Z, and that's quite significant. It's in
so far as it's only four degrees what's very close

(01:24:35):
to the equator, about four degrees north at pretty just
a bit under eighteen thousand feet, but it has a
large glacier or snowfield on top of it that erupted
in nineteen eighty five and cause was because of the
of the extensive glacier, caused a lot of lahas, just

(01:24:59):
the same as they were at Ruapehu, but it ended
up that's the fourth most disastrous eruption on record, and
so far as twenty five thousand well you know, twenty
five thousand fatalities or deaths basically in Columbia in nineteen

(01:25:20):
eighty five. But it is surprising, it's well, I just
I just checked again on the old Google with and
supposedly even though you know, like with global warming, they
say even you know, Kilimajaro and that their high glaciers disappearing.
Apparently the one in Columbia. Is it's maintaining its size. Yeah,

(01:25:49):
there is a little bit of skiing. I mean I
went up there in nineteen sixty eight and it was
only as a side trip. I hit I hadn't sort
of one prepared to climb the thing really lightly clad
and got up. But there was a a small sort
of ski hut where you could see at times, so
there've been a bit of a rope toe and people

(01:26:10):
would do a bit of skiing there. The cloud came in.
I tried climbing up, uh, a cloud over its sort
of because I'd been down at sea level a couple
of days before. I was feeling a bit nauseous so
slipped back down again. But yeah, it's a pretty significant
mountain all then. I mean it's it's probably still bubbling away.

(01:26:34):
It could have another go the I don't know if
you did, if you were zoomed in on that one
at all.

Speaker 3 (01:26:42):
It seems I'm just looking at it now. Yeah, yeah,
I was just I was also just reading about a
mountain called the Ojos. Is it a mountain you're familiar with.
I think that's the tallest. Is that the tall that's
in Chile? But that might be the tallest volcano in
the world. I think the tallest, is that right? Kind
of anything about that could be?

Speaker 20 (01:27:02):
Yeah, I know certainly No Delivery has got a few.
I thought, well they would breached high ski fields, but
and Chile certainly has as well. But you know, the
one I was talking about was del rue Is I did. Yeah, yeah,
and being had on its own. It's sort of you know,

(01:27:22):
only really used hot in the skip from uh you know,
the old Caravan Ocean really sort of in Congress. Yeah,
but so I don't know if it's listed as an
official ski field, but I certainly know that there was
ski gear around that I didn't avail myself of at
the time.

Speaker 3 (01:27:41):
Yeah, hey, can you sell me something? What are the sister?
The sister cracked up under the what of the stopped
the cist?

Speaker 10 (01:27:49):
Now?

Speaker 3 (01:27:50):
I just thought it was stop the jets the JITs.

Speaker 20 (01:27:52):
No, I think they don't like it. It actually probably
put a shine on your propeller and it would affect
the certainly at that speed, certainly the glass and stuff
like that, and it could be you know, it could
go breathe you go in the intakes too and put
a shine on things.

Speaker 18 (01:28:10):
See.

Speaker 20 (01:28:11):
You certainly not recommended. I think it's sort of it
might not be quite as rabbit problem as with a
turbo or a jet, but yeah, they even as recently,
you know, in the Si Mary craters on Tom Guerrero,
so twenty twelve they were was probably the most recent

(01:28:35):
corruption there, and there was aviation warnings. I was doing
work on the Central Plateau.

Speaker 3 (01:28:44):
Photographic lupins or something, aren't you.

Speaker 20 (01:28:47):
Yeah, yeah, some of it was related to stuff that
Harry keyes was doing.

Speaker 3 (01:28:49):
That's yeah, he's the oracle of He's the leader. He's
the oracle of the Lahas, isn't he.

Speaker 20 (01:28:55):
He was here then and it was also involved relatively recently.
I think he's finished there now with when we're getting
with the heather as well. It was of recent times
that's sort of have released some some beetles to control
heather and stuff like that, and we we were tracking
some of that too.

Speaker 3 (01:29:13):
Yeah, okay, nice to talk to you, Larry, not talk
he's not talk about ol heather, of course, not racing
beatles to control ol heather. It's a different sort of
a heather. At eighteen past ten, Rick's Marcus.

Speaker 16 (01:29:26):
Welcome, Marcus, great show.

Speaker 22 (01:29:29):
Thanks.

Speaker 16 (01:29:30):
I'd like to talk about the ninety five were a
player eruption. My family were living in Lower Heart of
the time, and we'd been up to our acuney every
weekend for about a year, putting up a kit said house.
Oh yes, where we were all keen skiers. We're in
burn Street and Acney. Anyway, this weekend we were up

(01:29:54):
there to ski and my son was working for two
of our cats, and I was good dad. I got
up about six o'clock in the morning out here was
I'm not exactly sure of the time to make his breakfast.
And I hadn't been looking out the front door of
the house at the time, and I saw the mountain rupt.

(01:30:18):
I had a three hundred MILLI lens on my camera
and I took photographs about every fifteen seconds wow, for
quite a reasonable time. I must say, about ten photographs.
It just looked like it was right when it exploded first,

(01:30:39):
it just looked like an atomic bomb going off.

Speaker 5 (01:30:42):
It was a cone of.

Speaker 16 (01:30:45):
Steam which got bigger and bigger into the sky. Now
I've seen. I've got photographs up there of the eruption
taken from the Fokker paper side. But they were taken
at subsequent times and during the day and they showed
the lahar and everything like that. The pictures I've got

(01:31:06):
a pink and the pink because the rising sun was
behind the cloud. Incredible phogress. Actually I haven't shown them,
do anyone. I've got them though, but they're beautiful anyway. Obviously,
my son didn't go to work that day, so we
decided to go across and have a game of golf

(01:31:27):
a wye Marino golf club.

Speaker 5 (01:31:29):
And while we were.

Speaker 16 (01:31:30):
Playing, it was a beautiful day there. During the day
the mountain exploded again, and this time it just was
a big white cloud. There was no shape to it,
and out of that cloud came things like skyrockets. They
some are red, some were white. And we found out

(01:31:52):
subsequently that these were rocks being chucked out of the
out of the crater, and most of them landed on
the Fox Papa side of the mountain. I don't think
too many landed on the Touro side, but there've been
huts over there been damaged by these rocks. What made
it interesting was obviously I think it exploded again the

(01:32:14):
following year seventy six, Yeah, but not as great. But
what made it interesting is that the ash got cover
up with snow as the season went along, and I'm
not sure whether it's seventy five or seventy six. So
when you're skiking down the mountain towards the end of
the season, when the snow started to melt, you'd suddenly

(01:32:36):
hit the ash and you go head over the hills. Yeah,
his skis just wouldn't go on the on the ash,
so he had to download anyway, I think as I
don't know whether there are too many photographs taken off
the exact moment exploded. But as I said, I've got

(01:32:57):
them here in the pink because I take them with
the sun behind them. So that's my interesting story.

Speaker 3 (01:33:04):
Tell me something, ricks, Were you up there this year?
How was the season? How is the town? Because I
know I've got it struggles, but is it bouncing back
or is it still like the d is coming?

Speaker 16 (01:33:12):
I haven't This is the This is the first year
in forty years that I haven't skiped. I got COVID
and it affected me quite badly and I don't think
I could stand up.

Speaker 3 (01:33:25):
You're still what your place there?

Speaker 15 (01:33:26):
Though?

Speaker 17 (01:33:26):
Have you?

Speaker 10 (01:33:27):
Yes?

Speaker 13 (01:33:28):
I have?

Speaker 16 (01:33:28):
Yeah, the kids and drand kids use it now. Yeah,
so that's the best thing we ever did.

Speaker 3 (01:33:34):
Oh yeah, what was what sort of kit set was it?

Speaker 8 (01:33:38):
It was made?

Speaker 16 (01:33:38):
It was it's basically made by Ideal Garages.

Speaker 3 (01:33:42):
Oh yeah, I thought it was. I was picturing an
ideal garage type situation.

Speaker 17 (01:33:46):
Yeah.

Speaker 16 (01:33:46):
So it's like a cottage like they and it's all
metal exterior. So we we sort of got the foundations
and the basic structure put in and then we did
the rest ourselves. But as I said, it took every
weekend for a year to do that, and of course
when the mountain exploded the minute we finished, we went

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what with.

Speaker 8 (01:34:09):
What we were doing?

Speaker 3 (01:34:10):
But anyway, did you still get up there this winter
or not?

Speaker 18 (01:34:14):
Not at all?

Speaker 16 (01:34:15):
No, I'm going up there the end of the season October.

Speaker 8 (01:34:18):
Yeah.

Speaker 16 (01:34:18):
Played with the golf Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:34:20):
It looks like quite a nice course for him. How
you still play Why Marino, do you?

Speaker 5 (01:34:25):
Yeah?

Speaker 8 (01:34:25):
Yeah?

Speaker 16 (01:34:26):
Yeah, it's I played off and on for a number
of years. But it's a real good country course and
it's quite well designed. When I first started playing, that
used to have fenters around the greens, you know, to keep.

Speaker 5 (01:34:39):
The sheep off.

Speaker 16 (01:34:40):
Yes, But in subsequent years I've had greenkeeper and obviously
the members look after it and it's Yeah, it's good fun.

Speaker 3 (01:34:50):
Beautiful tree. It's got beautiful trees. It looks like it's
beautifully planted.

Speaker 10 (01:34:54):
Oh it is.

Speaker 9 (01:34:55):
Yeah, they were.

Speaker 16 (01:34:55):
They've been there for years, I think, well before the
WYOUI course, I think. And there are number of courses
around the country look a bit like it. So obviously
they were constructed around about the same time with the
old trees, you know, not not made of trees.

Speaker 3 (01:35:13):
It looks great. Appreciate that. Rick's nice to talk to you.
I hope things go well for you. Susanna Marcus welcome,
did you say, Savannah?

Speaker 13 (01:35:24):
Yes?

Speaker 17 (01:35:25):
Oh yet. I was teaching at Parker Raka, which is
just south of Kerry Carry and a little country school,
and one day my car was covered in ash and
I really really thought about that, and then I suddenly
realized that the ash from rual Pay, who must have
been blowing so far north, and I was quite amazed.

(01:35:50):
It was the fine Yeah, the car was covered in
this fine, fine ash.

Speaker 3 (01:35:57):
The people, the people that talked all about that, yeah
about about arriving if we were around the country. So
we'll talk more about that too. But good on you.

Speaker 2 (01:36:08):
Thank you.

Speaker 3 (01:36:08):
Susanna. At twenty six past ten, do get in touch.
My name is Marcus. Welcome eight hundred and eighty ten
eighty called Ash Wednesday, that's probably what we should call
the show.

Speaker 9 (01:36:21):
Ah.

Speaker 3 (01:36:21):
It took us a while, didn't to come up with that.
No disrespect to people of the faith. But yeah, it
is about Ash wednesdayn't it.

Speaker 6 (01:36:31):
Well?

Speaker 3 (01:36:31):
Of course that's the first day of Lent. Do come
through if you want to be a part of it, Marcus,
My family could see this mountain erupting from our lounge
window whilst living in Topor. The ash covered topaul But
was particularly thick south towards Tudani, Tokanu and Pukawa. The
ash blocked the sun so it became very cold and dark.
Some of the ground refroze. Everybody was asked to pick

(01:36:53):
up their children from school. My husband was a volunteer
with Civil Defense, of course he was, and I remember
filling up the bath in case it was a problem
with water. The dark cloud of ash drifts to the east,
so a lot of the Estuary area coast was also affected.
It was what an eerie feeling. Wow oo oh, Marcus,

(01:37:21):
have to say, we're all having smoke on the site today.
Listening to your podcast, probably had six grind men in
tears with the toenail cliffing did a good laugh on
a miserable day Britain workers usual. Marcus slashed that from Adam. Yeah, wow,
that's pretty every Marcus, here's one for you. Every time

(01:37:42):
white one would blow, you could guarantee that the rachel
pill that fung up pipedo and let it heats up
and bubbles. It's hard out. Spoke to an older moldy woman.
She said it happens every time. It is what she remembers.
Worked with a guy on the Solomon's working in New
Georgia Province and active gee thermal. He went down on
his own to draw the rig without monitoring equipment and

(01:38:04):
ended up in a pocket of highly concentrated hudgens. I'd
guess he dragged himself away to fresh air just in
the niked time. Scary stuff, Marcus. Remember in nineteen fifty eight,
one or three year old living at Nashville Park frozen
nappies on the clothesline coven and took black cash from
from Nadahoy Febuous memories. Guy Fawkes in the snow venison

(01:38:26):
the back door, constantly earthquakes, giant moths, baby rabbits and
the smell of timber mills. Haven't heard from anyone that
was incarcerated yet. Sure there's some great stories of people
at those the prisons, because I guess you would have
got a actcepte. Yeah, anyway, I'm sure they would have
got a good view jumpin' here'll twelve oh eight hundred

(01:38:51):
and eighty nine two nine two to text. Be a
part of it here till twelve oh eight hundreds. You
know the rest. Anything else you want to talk about, tough.
It's all about the volcano tonight, and that's good. It's
good to get a single topic. H I love for those.

(01:39:13):
I will do a bit of a round of check
of news just in case I'm fancying them turning off
the escalator for Trump. That was spiteful, wasn't it, Joe
Good evening leaving.

Speaker 7 (01:39:23):
I was born in tay Happy and I can't remember
it was after and die Happy, But my parents had
a patch at tea rangie eater on the shores of
a towerpo at the mouth of the Tomboura Towerpey River,
and the dust was just laid on the roof and

(01:39:43):
on the ground. My father was very concerned because we
used to get our water off the roof because it
was we went on chow supply. Everything right there and
very vivid to me. I always believed when I was young,
prior to the war, that real pay was extinct and

(01:40:05):
wouldn't wouldn't now he was active and dog the real
it was the kitch of hay springs were being up
there up, and that they were very active, but was
supposed to be extinct. And then she went up. I
forgot the year. I think it was about it was
doing war, you know.

Speaker 3 (01:40:26):
I mean Joe someone said earlier. I think they said
nineteen forty five.

Speaker 7 (01:40:32):
It could have been that sub for five. It might
have been cut a bit before then. I can't remember that.

Speaker 3 (01:40:43):
He wasn't fun at who And he said to the milks,
taste of dish, but there's nothing else to drink, so
they still have to drink the cow's milk.

Speaker 7 (01:40:52):
Yeah, we didn't milk cows.

Speaker 3 (01:40:57):
No, No, I guess not.

Speaker 6 (01:40:59):
Yeah, but that's my memory of it.

Speaker 7 (01:41:03):
And the tea rang ego and she our back there
was covered in dust, and had was very concerned about
the route.

Speaker 3 (01:41:12):
Where's this place you talk about? Is this place through
the around the lake from you.

Speaker 7 (01:41:17):
It's halfway between two two two Rangy and it's at
the mouth of the Tungara Tower stream. My father had
poor Acus.

Speaker 3 (01:41:29):
And is it halfway? Is it on the western on
the eastern side.

Speaker 7 (01:41:34):
It's on the it's on the western side.

Speaker 3 (01:41:37):
Okay, copy that, sure, Sorry, it's on.

Speaker 7 (01:41:40):
The eastern side.

Speaker 6 (01:41:41):
Talking about.

Speaker 19 (01:41:43):
Yeah, so.

Speaker 7 (01:41:46):
It's on the way to you got leave to Rangy,
Mitro over two rag Either and the round moor Theory
and then over to our TP and then over the
hill and down to one and then yeah, copy that.

Speaker 3 (01:42:07):
Hey, obviously the ash and the water didn't kill you.
You're still alive, and you must be a good age time.

Speaker 7 (01:42:15):
I'm over ninety three now, still going the question.

Speaker 5 (01:42:21):
Don't be good.

Speaker 3 (01:42:22):
I think it probably airs. It's got all your seature.
It's probably full of yeah, sexul minerals. You need Joe
nice to talk, brilliant. I love an age check. That's
what we want, can I Mike? This is Marcus welcome?

Speaker 26 (01:42:37):
Oh thanks Marcus. Yeah, just a couple of things. The
first time was I lived a matter matter for a
while and did a lot of fencing around that area
and White Cattle River before it flowed out to the
west coast. It appears that it would have gone through
hanu Wera and come out into the hierarchy golf yep, yep.

Speaker 3 (01:43:03):
I think not so much. They golf at the Firth
of Ta Yeah, into the.

Speaker 26 (01:43:08):
First of teens. Yeah, and yeah, it's just quite neat geology.

Speaker 27 (01:43:15):
What what what geography?

Speaker 3 (01:43:17):
What changed that?

Speaker 26 (01:43:19):
Yeah, I'm curious about that. Hadn't really heard the story always.
Hinuere is a lot higher than where the White Cattle
River is just at Carapero, you know. So I think
there must have been some part of that explosion that

(01:43:43):
that just washed away a whole lot of debris and
and then it changed its root because Hinuere has actually
got a lot of rock there, and maybe that rock
formation pushed up ye and and made it. Maybe there
was a lift there, I don't know.

Speaker 11 (01:44:03):
Very interesting.

Speaker 26 (01:44:04):
The other thing was Kate Carry Carry Way up north.
I've been doing a bit of work up there. There's
a big hill on cap Carry Cary just on the
left as you're going out towards peninsula, and the locals
tell me that geologists have found it that came from
Lake Taalpo.

Speaker 16 (01:44:23):
And during oh wow, okay wow, a little.

Speaker 26 (01:44:26):
Deposit and the carry forests up there got covered a
couple of times. So when they're digging down on the
swamps and that there's layers of ash and then cowie
and then ash and then carry. So it's like, yeah,

(01:44:47):
there's a forest that's you know, been totally covered from Taupo.

Speaker 3 (01:44:51):
Apparently it's fasting.

Speaker 2 (01:44:53):
What do you do?

Speaker 3 (01:44:54):
Are you what are you doing fencing up there? Are
you doing building?

Speaker 26 (01:44:57):
I was actually doing shelter trimming, Yeah, big shelter trimmer,
and I drive around doing that.

Speaker 3 (01:45:04):
It's probably quite built up now. It's been a long
time since I've been to that part of the country.
But I presume it's going ahead, is it?

Speaker 26 (01:45:11):
It is going ahead. It's a real go ahead place
and great just beautiful beaches.

Speaker 9 (01:45:18):
Just great area.

Speaker 3 (01:45:20):
Yeah, great, jealous. Okay, Mike, nice to hear from your
twenty three to eleven twenty one away from eleven. Good evening, Ken, Marcus, welcome, Yeah.

Speaker 18 (01:45:31):
Good day, Marcus.

Speaker 3 (01:45:32):
How are you good?

Speaker 20 (01:45:33):
King?

Speaker 3 (01:45:33):
Thank you?

Speaker 18 (01:45:35):
Right back in the I'm only one, Marcus, and back
in the back in the seventies, I got out of
the army and went to work for r L L.
Fine List, you know, just to said I'll be down
a wee bit and I absolutely loved it, and I
ran the first I ran the second lift in the

(01:45:59):
pomber on the on the fuck Parper's side.

Speaker 5 (01:46:04):
Yeah.

Speaker 18 (01:46:05):
Anyway, nineteenth of October. I can't remember that the particular
year it was. I think it was early seventies. Anyway,
my mate little Joe and I decided, because it was
the end of the end of the season, shut a
long story short and shut the lift down. It's the

(01:46:29):
second lift, and off we went up the upper hill
on the Pommer and then on up the glass here.
Just had a week quick inspection of the dome hut,
took our lunch and sat on the edge of the
crater for our lunch around about half fastball, I suppose

(01:46:49):
it took our skis off and you know, shirts and
what have you touched that to relax. And it was
about half pastball, quarter to one, the mountain exploded in frontless.

Speaker 6 (01:47:01):
It was a matter of.

Speaker 18 (01:47:04):
Well, it was a matter of one hundred and fifty
two hundred meters away. Just a straight plume of smoke, steam, rocks,
you name it. It came out and I said that Joe,
righty home, mate, we're out of here. Wow, trapped the

(01:47:26):
skis on and built it off down the hill to
Jakuni Shaliat pre saliot free lesson markers, I'll give you that.
But it was a wonderful place to work.

Speaker 6 (01:47:44):
Wow.

Speaker 18 (01:47:45):
And having got out of the army, I used to
climb the mountain. I used to climb the mountain every
morning to shovel the skull off the second the second lift.
She was a bit of a ramshackle outfit back in
that those days, and I used to stop as a decide.

(01:48:08):
I used to stop about half way up, and there
was a little pile of rocks, but I used to
sit down and make myself a rollie. And the rocks
never ever got snow on them because the wooden blow
across them. And I could look out out over Tapos
and and Egmont and the hold of Taranaki rhode Ira,

(01:48:36):
just fantastic. I loved it, absolutely loved it.

Speaker 3 (01:48:40):
But there you go, And you did you ski down
the other side to ouracuni after you got up?

Speaker 5 (01:48:46):
Yeah?

Speaker 3 (01:48:47):
Is that because of that that was going the other direction?
Was it was that easy? Because it wouldn't be that was.

Speaker 18 (01:48:51):
Going the other direct And I said we better get
out of here because we can get a ride back
with it with you know, with one of the guys
down on the parkwords. I used to used to go
backwards and forwards between our Raccuni and Crocker Papa. Anyway,
we strapped our teas on stufftown sandwiches in their bags,

(01:49:12):
our pets, and off we went down down there side.

Speaker 3 (01:49:19):
And King, was that was that a one off eruption
or was that that? It was that a season that
erupted there for a while.

Speaker 18 (01:49:26):
I'm not sure, Marcus. I mean, I used to work
the second limp with a with a friend of mine
called case Star, and I don't know whether he's still alive,
bless his heart, and he yeah, so, so we used
to just we used to operate the second lift, the

(01:49:47):
pair of us. Just another little aside deal. Have another
little story. I one Sunday afternoon, the lot of skiers
around and this day for a lady came up and
I remember her vividly. She was dressed in punt st pearls,

(01:50:08):
beautifully confured, and she came up on the lift and
I helped her off, and she just disappeared around the
back of it, the back of the lift building, and
I saw her wander afterwards. The rope doe on the
left hand side, so that was all right. It started

(01:50:28):
to snow about three o'clock. I can't remember the date.
It started to snow about three o'clock, and it bloody
will snow. It snowed in the snow. Anyway, I ran
taste and I said, we better get these people off
the mountain before before we have a bit of an incident.

(01:50:50):
And I said to it anyway, we've got a lot
of people down off the hill. I said, come on,
you better get down off the hill. We'll put you
on the lift and off you go. So that was
all right.

Speaker 14 (01:51:00):
And I thought to.

Speaker 18 (01:51:00):
Herself, I wonder where this lady is because I hadn't
seen her come back. She was hite distinctive, very very
well dressed and made up and all this sort of stuff.
The rope though, was over to the left hand side
of the lift station, second lift station, and I said,

(01:51:21):
I ran case and I said, listen, let's shut the
lift down. And I said, I'll go and have a
look over at the rope to rope toe to see
if I can see this woman. So that was all right.
We shut the lift down, and I wandered over and
there's a rape thow there. So I went up the
rope too, and there was a there's a was a

(01:51:43):
Wisconsin diesel on a teep thing to run the rope though,
can you visit it? And sitting underneath the tep stand.

Speaker 8 (01:51:59):
Was this was this woman.

Speaker 18 (01:52:03):
She was wet through, she was her lips were blue.
Hell yeah, I remember this so vividly. And she's sitting
under this tat stand and it was Marcus, it was
now and I said, she looked at me her. One

(01:52:28):
of the things that struck me was the fact that
her makeup had run and had run all over the
face and it looked like soil erosion. And anyway, I said,
come on, we've got to get back to the lift station.
I said, I've got to get you nice and warm,
well where it took me five minutes to walk across

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from the station to the rope to where it took
me five minutes to walk from the as I said,
from the lift station of the rope to it took
me quarter of an hour to get this woman back
to the station and then to my sleeping beg and
not none of a sim into one of those those

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rescue blankets you know they still were rescue bleak. And
then to my sleeping bed and I rang the I
rang case, and I said, you got to get the
keep a roll up here. I said, we've got somebody
who's really, really a really bad way. I thought, another
half an hour under that teak stand Marcus, she she

(01:53:40):
she was got, she was gone anyway that the key
control came up. And you can't you can't shovel cuts
the tea and stuff into them when they're like that,
because there's too much of the shocks of the system.
And they had to, you know, they had to. I
lit the fire in the in the lift station, warmed

(01:54:03):
the place up a week, But I mean that that
highly gets talks pretty damn cold. But I'll never ever
forget that poor woman.

Speaker 3 (01:54:13):
You know, you didn't find out why she was so
well dressed.

Speaker 18 (01:54:18):
No, she was a day proper people. A lot of
people mat just used to come up the mountains for
the day in light gear like that. She's so beautifully
dressed and she had a fair of like cluggy heels on.
She disappeared around the back of the station and that's
the last time I saw of her until I lugged

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her back across to the lift station in the Bana boat.

Speaker 3 (01:54:47):
Put Ken, I'm took her down.

Speaker 8 (01:54:51):
I'm going to go.

Speaker 3 (01:54:52):
I've got to go for commercials kN but just before
I go, right, No.

Speaker 18 (01:54:55):
That's all right, hang on, hang on, hang.

Speaker 22 (01:54:58):
On, Ken.

Speaker 3 (01:54:58):
It's a good little Joe, big or small. You see
it's gonna be I thought it's going to be a giant.
He was, Okay, nice story. Thanks again. Leaving away from
eleven do this and the good stories. And it's a
great turn of phrases too. Face was like soil erosion. Wow,

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getting touched one of his markers. We're talking about the
eruption thirty years ago, Who and other eruptions. It's been
an eruption night. Some people have tuned and they thought
that Who was erupted again, that's not true. It's just
we are commemorating, celebrating thirty years ago that it did erupt.
A lot of Orcans were driving down there to I
was living in Auckland at the time. We're driving down

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and mass to see it. It was like a day
trip and it seems like they were overseas gifts. I
remember there was one guy I knew he's over actually
South African over here looking to opening up of McDonald's franchise,
and South Africa had come to New Zealand to was
training for it, having to be at the place. I congat.
He was fester, but he took the drive down to

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go and see it. It was an interesting time nineteen
ninety five anyway, enough for me. But yeah, right, Amanda,
there have been some fascinating callers. Keep it going through.
If you want to talk, I'll take you quickly before
the news or slowly after you slowly after it. Quickly
before or slowly after, but do come through. Sorry, I
got a bit old. King was so fast. I got
a bit jammed up with the commercials. So I apologize

(01:56:30):
for that. Like to spread them out a bit more,
but sometimes you get a bit jammed My fault. It's
not ideal. We're trained for all these eventualities. Catch you soon, Hi, Sally,
this is Marcus. Welcome.

Speaker 29 (01:56:48):
Oh hello Marcus at Sally spreaching. I can remember that
day that that man was talking about when they had erupted,
and I think it might have been seventy three. I
lived near a soccer Maria, and I don't My husband
and I just got back from overseas and I've been,
We've been on any home, I don't know, a few months,

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few weeks, and I hadn't didn't own a vacuum cleaner.
And it was the most beautiful day, and I thought,
oh just I thought, wow, that's a funny black cloud.
And I never thought anything of it. I got home.
Every single thing in the house was those days you

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left all the doors of windows openers, And it was
such a beautiful day. I tell you, I owned a
vacuum cleaner. The next morning I went straight to town
and bought one. But what we didn't do, and we
didn't do it through that second eruption either, we didn't
wash the roof. And since I know it's an older

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house that since then the roofs had to be replaced.
And that was because we never washed the roof.

Speaker 3 (01:58:00):
Where was the house, Sally? Where were you living?

Speaker 29 (01:58:04):
So that again I went some Bay State Highway thirty
two Western Boys, Taupa, north of Talpo.

Speaker 3 (01:58:10):
Oh yeah, yea yea yea statehoway thirty two? Oh yeah,
what'd you say? That was called again? I found it now? Sorry,
I appreciate that. Thanks for your t yep. Okay is
it is it like a fat is it a farming town.

Speaker 29 (01:58:24):
Yeah, yes, it's just nothing much at soccer mauru. So
a couple of bits and a garage and couple of
takeaways and a restaurant sort of thing.

Speaker 3 (01:58:31):
Are you still there?

Speaker 29 (01:58:32):
It's got a dam and that there as well, so
we're yeah. So it was the farm cottage, and so
it was only about five years ago that the roofs
had to be replaced.

Speaker 3 (01:58:44):
You're still living there, not.

Speaker 29 (01:58:47):
In the cottage. I'm in the main house now in
that town farm.

Speaker 6 (01:58:50):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:58:50):
Well okay, right by the river, right by the Waco.

Speaker 29 (01:58:54):
No, you know we're about we're actually about nine and
a half k from.

Speaker 3 (01:58:59):
Yeah, okay, nice to hear. I'm glad I could actually
work at where you were. Sally appreciate that I don't
know all the name of the towns around this someone
that I thought we wh wait it is to you,
but yeah, excellent, I will do it. We'll put the
we'll put the file air on this way here to twelve.
We're talking about the eruption about to a pair who
that was thirty years ago today today or today or tomorrow,

(01:59:20):
yesterday or something like that. So we going to talk
about that. Get in touch eight hundred and eighty ten
eighty Kevin, it's Marcus. Welcome, good evening.

Speaker 5 (01:59:28):
Oh hi Marcus.

Speaker 27 (01:59:31):
Not specifically about the eruption, but I'm still going if
we drilled a hole on the side of the mountain
deep enough, up close to the medell or the laugh,
we could get some you know, or energy out of
the mountain.

Speaker 3 (01:59:46):
Well, you could. It's probably it's probably related to the
same giant lump of magma that they're using with the
y Raki power station. I would think it's all happening
down there.

Speaker 27 (01:59:55):
Oh well, yeah, I just thought of a horizontal ball
might be cheap with a mate.

Speaker 3 (02:00:02):
Are you in bed?

Speaker 27 (02:00:04):
Yeah, yeah, I was.

Speaker 3 (02:00:09):
Going to I was going to make a lame joke
then about a horizontal balk Kevin, But I didn't.

Speaker 27 (02:00:13):
Oh, I mean going horizonta would be a lot cheaper
than trying to go vertical.

Speaker 23 (02:00:22):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (02:00:22):
Oh yeah, I don't know.

Speaker 8 (02:00:23):
I don't know.

Speaker 3 (02:00:23):
Yeah, take your Yeah, I don't know. I forgot that.
You have to get the Italian tunnelers out. They'd be
good at that, wouldn't they.

Speaker 27 (02:00:30):
Yeah, that's right, there both something the whole boy. Some
could do it easy.

Speaker 3 (02:00:36):
Yeah, you don't know about geo thermal I think I
think we're doing some more geo thermal at the moment.

Speaker 20 (02:00:44):
We are.

Speaker 27 (02:00:44):
We're looking into it. Yeah, but I'm some good you know,
going down and there's the expensive part and the difficult part. Okay,
we're stubbing vertical, you know, Steven, vertical would be phenomenally cheaper.

Speaker 3 (02:01:00):
I look more into that, Kevin, thank you. It's a
good start. They are ten, part eleven. If you want
to talk about this, it's all about volcanoes today. I
don't know there's been a radio show that's spoken so
much about volcanoes. Yeah, so get in touch. My name
is Marcus. Welcome, oh eight hundred and eighty ten, eighty

(02:01:25):
nine nine to text. If you've got something to say,
love to hear from you. Anything else, brilliant. Let's be
hearing from you, mainly about volcanoes. I've got a million
texts I should probably read, but it'll be boring compet
to your calls. So jumpin'. Here's what people are saying

(02:01:52):
about volcanoes, Marcus. I remember the day the eruption. We
stopped at a restaurant and had a meal in wayoudu
unreal seeing it out. The winners of the restaurant. I
was twelve, Thanks Kylie, what a memory. First son, just Ball.
We lived on a farm at Polka Polk and Gaho

(02:02:14):
Pokinahu Puka Nahou south of the back of Stratford, and
we got a dusting vest which was visible on the cars.
Had a trip planned. Willing to talk on a new
to me BMW motorcycle. Off I went a couple of
photos part way or that is a road they got
they got covered now stopped to have a washing too.
Dongey decided to take the long way home down the
East coast. A couple of days later, Luke, we're skiing

(02:02:37):
on the mountain at Fucker Papa. That day in ninety five,
Round five through the mountain blew up Lahas, a few
meters from our ski club. Stayed there that night but
asked to leave Mounta in the morning. It was June
and ninety six when the eruptions caused the ash falls. Margaret,
Kylie here again. We didn't never came with us to
take a photo, not like today haha, but we have
a picture memory. It was a beautiful day and we
were driving back, driving back to Harwarda from Topor. My

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husband and I are on the mountain Fucker Papa side
in July ninety sixth one of the largest eruptions. I
heard and felt the rumble coming up through my feet,
through my body, looked up and saw billowing clouds of
ash with far above my head. Yelled to Hubby. We
jumped to the car as other zoom passed from feather
up the mountain. As we drove around the other side,
watched an area's eruption keept growing. Still can't believe what

(02:03:22):
we experienced, Marcus. We had a school trip to ski
Racers Lodge, which is halfway down the rock garden at
Fucker Papa. There wasn't it hasn't been around. It must
have been around two thousand and four or five obviously
at the eruption, but they set off dynamite about seventy
meters away from the lodge at six am for avalanche control.
Made us jump, That's for sure. I thought the old

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girl was kicking off again. Fucker Papa Skifield open on
the July the twenty six with ski lifts. It has
been closed for ten days for bad weather, so only
around fifty trading days so far and short. A Barry
Crocker of a season heavy rain up here in Fangare

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most of the day. Luck would have been further south
in Auckland as well. Any reports of flooding. I woke
up to my dad watering his guard and washing the
ashe off. All the cars of the plants were smothered.
I could remember. The smell was repotent. We lived on
a farm called tartar Akeina off the Napier Topo Highway,
A fairway from Topa looked like snow but gray, and

(02:04:38):
it was falling like snow. Marcus, Japan has about twelve
major resorts on volcanoes. Ski Resort just includes Theseeco and Hukaba,
which quite a few key we hardcore skiers would be
familiar with. A great book about volcanoes is The Day

(02:04:58):
the World Exploded by Simon Winchester. So I've got that
it's a good e. It's crack at tower. A volcano
on the national flag is a great idea. AUK has
been duing your eruption of quind to reports I've seen
in three News in Geographic magazine since the early nineties.

(02:05:27):
When the ash hit wrote to there with so many
cars with the wipers on and off, and this pushed
the water button. Police in the street telling them don't
put your water on it will scratch your windows. Living
in Topra ninety ninety five, pickup kids, fuel car cover
fish pond enjoy the show growing darkness and temperature was
quite primal. Random one here an additional topic maybe for

(02:05:51):
Friday Free for all, ask again, but keen for camping
lo case recommendations for the North Island have always gone
to a porta key from Willington. But keen for Tickie tour.
That's all the texts. We're talking vulcan, that's the idea. Tonight,
get your pyrostic pyroplastic flow on horizontal war. Yeh is

(02:06:16):
a goody Anna Marcus, good evening, welcome.

Speaker 10 (02:06:21):
Oh Hi.

Speaker 30 (02:06:23):
I have a snipet of information about the terror were eruption.
My great grandparents were in Hawke's Bay at the time
and day turned tonight, and they said that all the
locals screamed and cried and ran down to their local
churches because they thought it was the end of the world.
There was no such thing as radio or telegbans in

(02:06:45):
the eighteen.

Speaker 3 (02:06:46):
Eighties, I think of eight eighty eight, was it, Yeah,
maybe something like that.

Speaker 30 (02:06:50):
Yeah, so it must have been terrifying for them.

Speaker 3 (02:06:56):
Yeah, it would have been, you know, for just day
to turn.

Speaker 30 (02:07:00):
Tonight with no reason, even though I'd be scared. But
I don't think it hits to the local church.

Speaker 3 (02:07:06):
Where would you go?

Speaker 30 (02:07:09):
I probably did under the beach.

Speaker 3 (02:07:11):
I'll go to the local church. You know, that's where
you want to go in times of times of travel,
sick comfort. That's the place. Okay, I don't know to
be anywhere else, do Yeah, I kind of I've always
had really sketchy I don't know about the eruption of tuttleweather.
I know that there was a TV show once when
I was a child called The Children of Fire Mountain
that was based on that, and it was kind of

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a little bit rubbish, I thought. But I think that
was all around them waiting for the volcano. It was
sort of slightly problematic by nature, I thought, slightly sort
of colonial. Maybe maybe it wasn't. Maybe I just misread it.

(02:07:59):
You might have remembered that Sir Charles Pemberton travels to
use in and for the UK, and the advice was
doctors one theory forms an idea to build a health
spar on moldy Land. And I think there was some
romance and some subplots. Doomy dwy I had this still
you might remember it, but that was I think that

(02:08:21):
was based on the eruption. I leess I've got it
wildly wrong. I don't think I think that's what it
was about. Yes, why else, what would we called the
Children of Fire Mountain? I think that's what it was anyway, Yes,
the volcano erupted at the end. I think Martin Sanderson

(02:08:48):
was Doomy Dwyer. I've caught on that ever since. By
the way, today's World Punctuation Day. Do we still need it?
Maybe not?

Speaker 17 (02:08:56):
Um.

Speaker 3 (02:08:58):
Yes, there's been a very very good article and spin
off about that skipping challenge that goes to all primary
schools and what a croc that is, with forty percent
of the money going to the group that put the

(02:09:19):
whole thing on. So yeah, I think of that's at
your school. I know our kids came up and say
we're doing that. I said, no, you're not. I said,
that looks like a disaster. But go and read that.
It's about time someone wrote on that it was like gambling,
getting kids obsessed about winning prizes, big prizes. So yes,

(02:09:40):
it's a very good article to read. I mean, kids
love skipping, there's no doubt about that. But that's not
how they should skip. It's an appalling thing. So go
read that bay Watch is coming back. Never really watched much,
watched much Baywatch, But bay Watch is coming twelve episodes.

(02:10:06):
It was the most watched TV show on the planet.
It'll last about a minute. It'll be terrible. The old
one was always terrible. So what's changed. It's not known
if Hesselhorf and Anderson will be appearing. I suspect they
probably won't be. That's my gut feeling. Yes, twenty four

(02:10:38):
away from twelve o'clock, Smitty, this is Marcus. Welcome. Good evening. Yeah,
good Smitty. What's happening?

Speaker 10 (02:10:56):
Uh?

Speaker 15 (02:10:56):
Yeah, we want to go about crocs. We neared the
crops discussion, but yeah, reasoning. So, mum was born in
nineteen forty four. She was eight years old and the
Tangy Boy disaster and her parents, my grandparents were supposed
to take her up the line of my great auntie

(02:11:18):
your uncle, and mum fell ill just before and they
had to cancel her postpone the trip on the Tangy
woy On on the train. So yeah, so I said
fifty next month wouldn't be a planet on that train.

Speaker 3 (02:11:35):
I think most I think did most of them get killed?

Speaker 6 (02:11:37):
I think so.

Speaker 3 (02:11:37):
I don't know how many were on the train, Yeah,
I don't.

Speaker 15 (02:11:40):
I don't know the sets. But her mum always told
that story. And yeah, thankfully she can jump on that train.

Speaker 3 (02:11:47):
Yeah, what a horrible thing that was?

Speaker 15 (02:11:50):
Oh terrible?

Speaker 13 (02:11:51):
Are there?

Speaker 3 (02:11:52):
There are two or eighty five on board and one
hundred and fifty one died, so like three fifths side.

Speaker 15 (02:11:58):
Yeah, yeah, she was something like that. But yeah, yeah,
how your CrOx? You're still running her two sets of crocs?

Speaker 3 (02:12:07):
No, I'm not really a croc. I don't have any crocs.
The kids have them. But what happens with us? What
happens with us? But if we leave the crocs at
the front door, right yeah, and the bluff when they
end up in the tide.

Speaker 27 (02:12:29):
Yeah right.

Speaker 3 (02:12:30):
One of my kids has got crocks with like a
shark phone on them. Yeah.

Speaker 15 (02:12:36):
Yeah, gibbets they call those.

Speaker 3 (02:12:37):
Think no, this is actually molded into it.

Speaker 15 (02:12:42):
Oh yeah yeah right yeah yeah, yeah for.

Speaker 3 (02:12:45):
You, they're a gimmicky croc.

Speaker 20 (02:12:48):
No, no, not me.

Speaker 15 (02:12:49):
I just run here of Juriss crocs and gardening crocs
and yeah frontal crocspect or crocs.

Speaker 3 (02:12:58):
But yeah, how many peers you're running?

Speaker 15 (02:13:03):
I think I'm running four piers. Four piers. That Thailand
knockoff was so they they were like ten ten dollars.

Speaker 3 (02:13:14):
All the same color.

Speaker 15 (02:13:16):
No, no, from a culture then black black dress crops
got a navy.

Speaker 3 (02:13:25):
Yeah you got safety, you've got their steel toad crocs. No,
heaven't No, No, we're there, we're looking at They're quite fun.

Speaker 6 (02:13:34):
Yeah.

Speaker 15 (02:13:36):
But yeah, so yeah, tell you why mate? Interested interested
to hear the stories that I.

Speaker 3 (02:13:42):
Do that, mate, But yeah, appreciate you coming through somebody
and we'll get back on crocs sometimes soon for you
extend your passion project. So I'll tell you the story
earlier about the volcano. Deadly volcanoes. One of the deadliest
was the volcano on the island in the Caribbean called Martinique.

(02:14:03):
It's French. I think it might be a separate, divided island.
But there was a volcano called Mount Pilaie, right, and
it erupted in nineteen oh two.

Speaker 10 (02:14:22):
I know this.

Speaker 3 (02:14:22):
I read to the kid a nice survived story of this.
It erupted in nineteen oh two.

Speaker 1 (02:14:32):
And it killed.

Speaker 3 (02:14:36):
Every single person in the town thirty thousand people. Yeah,
and the town was called Saint Pierre. I think a
brief loll was shedded by tremendous eruption. Around eight am,
A ground hugging cloud of incandescent lavor particles suspended by

(02:14:58):
searing Tubuli guesses called a pyroclastic surge, moved at hurricane
speed down the southwest flank of the volcano. The surge
reached reached Saint pierret Ato. To escape from the city
was virtually impossible. Everyone almost from the city. Twenty eight
thousand people died, burned, or were buried by falling masonry.

(02:15:21):
The hot ash ignited a firestorm fueled by smashed buildings
and countless casks of rum. The only survivor was a prisoner,
Ludger Silbarus, who was locked in a windowless underground jail cell,
later discovered by rescue workers YEP. And he was so
famous for surviving that and so burnt, that he joined

(02:15:44):
Barnum's circus and toured the world.

Speaker 7 (02:15:50):
YEP.

Speaker 3 (02:15:53):
Four days after the eruption, a rescue team heard his
cries from the rubble in prison. Although badly Boerne survivor
was able to provide account of the event. He traveled
with the Barnum and Batley Circus and became a twentieth
century celebrity. Don't know what he was in jail for.
I'm frequently in trouble with the authorities. Stabbed a man

(02:16:16):
in a bar fight, drunk an argrant with money over
a friend, and used a machete to injure the man
in the chest. It's a good story. This should be
a movie.

Speaker 2 (02:16:31):
Yep.

Speaker 3 (02:16:31):
Pardon for his crimes after several months. This is the
least surprising thing. After several months, he was thrown out
of the circus for fighting with other staff while drunk.
Child in New York. Kicked out of the United States,
moved to Panama, built the Panama Canal, died of natural
cause in nineteen twenty nine. Yep, there we go, There

(02:17:00):
you go anyway, Sharky Marcus, welcome, Good.

Speaker 31 (02:17:06):
Evening, markets, good evening. The tunny Way disaster. So my father,
well his my grandfather actually was a sergeant in the
army at Wyu Camp and my my dad and well

(02:17:27):
they were all living there at the Army kemp Uh
and on the night of the tunguy Way disaster, so
they all my grandfather. His name was Elie Barber.

Speaker 26 (02:17:44):
Or bab Yeah.

Speaker 31 (02:17:47):
Well, he was driving a truck to the Tuguy Way disaster,
one of the army trucks, and the army truck railed
because there's a lot of police character and passed.

Speaker 3 (02:18:01):
We're about tell you where about tayas shocking?

Speaker 31 (02:18:05):
Uh, just by So they're going towards a mock rollerl way.

Speaker 3 (02:18:10):
Oh yeah, there wouldn't be trouble there were there. That's
a pretty safe era, isn't it.

Speaker 10 (02:18:15):
Know?

Speaker 31 (02:18:16):
They were doing the drug bust the other morning.

Speaker 3 (02:18:21):
Are we taking drugs to get over the nightmare of
the commute?

Speaker 15 (02:18:25):
Yeah?

Speaker 31 (02:18:26):
They have plenty, mate, Yeah, apparently it's full of plenty.
But anyway, so old he what was what was his.

Speaker 3 (02:18:35):
Real name, Aubrey, Aubrey Barber, Aubrey Barber. We see why
Elie Barber is quite a good It's not only a nickname.
It's a shortage of Aubrey, isn't it.

Speaker 13 (02:18:50):
Yes?

Speaker 7 (02:18:50):
And he had.

Speaker 31 (02:18:52):
The anyway he was he was the sergeant and charge
of Transport Division and they were they were going to
the Tenny one disaster and they were from what my dadsy,
they were really close to it and the army truck
rolled and my grandfather got rushed to hospital for broken

(02:19:14):
league or something. So yeah, and that was one that
they when they were trying to go and do the
rescuing of the people in the tenueider.

Speaker 3 (02:19:25):
It's a bad time to roll a track, yes, especially.

Speaker 31 (02:19:28):
An army truck on the way to a rescue like that.

Speaker 3 (02:19:31):
And why did they roll it? I mean, what was
the circumstances? It was Christmas? They probably drunk, were they
Christmas Eve?

Speaker 31 (02:19:38):
I think there may have been a bit of alcohol
to play in that. But but then again, the weather
as well, wasn't you know, because they had they had
to call everybody back and to go to you know,
all hands on the type of thing.

Speaker 3 (02:19:53):
I don't think the weather was bad. It wasn't the
weather that caused the bridge to wash away. It was
the volcano. It was the lake, the.

Speaker 4 (02:20:02):
River.

Speaker 8 (02:20:02):
Yeah.

Speaker 31 (02:20:05):
Yeah, that's that's my WILLM put.

Speaker 29 (02:20:06):
On that one.

Speaker 3 (02:20:07):
Yeah, okay, that's good. What do you got in you
beck your truck tonight?

Speaker 31 (02:20:12):
During the New Zealand couriers delivery down to Mount Long
in a week. But I'll be doing this for much longer.
I'm I'm going to go and work in the mines
in Port Hudn.

Speaker 3 (02:20:23):
Don't make stuff up, sharky, No, I am really yeah,
I'm going to go.

Speaker 31 (02:20:29):
And drive what they call a food which is a
truck that pulls four trailers. Are quite road train doing
iron ore?

Speaker 3 (02:20:38):
Are you one of old Nichola Willis's evacuees? Are you
picked it in? Where's your loyalty?

Speaker 31 (02:20:44):
Well? No, I love this country. But the money that
I can make doing that and they fly like so
I go over there for eight weeks and then they fly,
you know, they fight me over there, work eight weeks
and then I come back here for four weeks.

Speaker 3 (02:20:59):
They should have a name for that. What do they
call that?

Speaker 17 (02:21:04):
Yeah?

Speaker 3 (02:21:04):
Eight on four?

Speaker 26 (02:21:05):
Wow?

Speaker 31 (02:21:06):
Yeah, eight and four you know, and really good money,
you know, and then they supply the accommodation and the food,
and you know it's why not.

Speaker 3 (02:21:18):
Could you get the job here? Because a lot of
people who have discussed moving to Australia said, you've really
got to go to get the job because you can't
do it remotely? Did you manage to do it remotely?

Speaker 22 (02:21:28):
Now?

Speaker 31 (02:21:28):
I was nominated by a friend.

Speaker 3 (02:21:30):
Sure, so.

Speaker 31 (02:21:33):
He was over there and and the thing is that
with him nominating me and that when I go over there.
He gets a fifteen hundred dollar bonus for nominating me,
and I get a fifteen hundred dollar bonus for him
suggesting that I should.

Speaker 8 (02:21:52):
Work there as well.

Speaker 3 (02:21:54):
Hey, when do you go, Shaky, I've got six weeks.
You're going six weeks, right, Yeah, going.

Speaker 31 (02:22:01):
Six weeks because we're going to do the So I'm
just doing all the flomliminary paperwork and the police vetting
and all that here and then when I go over there,
I have to have a medical gun in purse. And
then they fire you out the port Headland and you
spend a week road on the road training for trainer,

(02:22:25):
and then you're yeah, on.

Speaker 3 (02:22:27):
The go is it above is it above ground? Truck?
You're driving with fork for wagons?

Speaker 8 (02:22:33):
Yeah?

Speaker 31 (02:22:34):
Yeah, it's from the mind to the to the port
Headland Ports, and.

Speaker 3 (02:22:40):
It's with coal obviously or iron ore iron or for
Gina hertwright, Yeah, of course it is.

Speaker 14 (02:22:47):
Yeah, So it's I'm.

Speaker 31 (02:22:51):
Really looking forward to it. That's a will you know
that my age?

Speaker 3 (02:22:54):
How old are you, Shaky, I'll.

Speaker 31 (02:22:57):
Be fifty seven shortly, so I'm sort of thinking, well,
I've got eight years to retire to put that money
in the bait for when I do retire.

Speaker 3 (02:23:09):
Great adventure to we head shaky, do us a favor
and remain in touch. I'd like to hear from you
over there, if you would, I will.

Speaker 31 (02:23:15):
I will because I know I can get you on
the the iHeart.

Speaker 3 (02:23:19):
Yeah, yeah, I don't hear. Yeah that's great, but yeah
get me and I like to hear all about it. Eh, yeah,
lovely to think that's generous of you to tell us
that I don't like when people disappear on me. You go, well, sharky,
how is this horror movie in China digitally altered to
make the gay couple straight? It's a I for you jeepers.

Speaker 1 (02:23:46):
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