Maybe you can only go forward (24 September 2024)

We talk time travel - and why any proposed time travellers seemingly would all go to the same time and place.

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Speaker 1 (00:07):
You're listening to the Marcus Lush Night's podcast from News
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Speaker 2 (00:12):
Marcus Slush reporting for Judy. Good evening and welcome here
to midnight tonight. I hope it's good where you are.
Spring lasted to day and boy boy, did we go
back to winter with driving hail. It's pushed me to
the edge. It's been one of those days. I hope
for things are good where you are. Anyway, here till midnight.
If there is breaking news, let us know what their
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particularly if animals have gone wide or there's something exciting
happened to report, let us know what's going on. I
like to keep people up to date with what's happening.
Practicing my Rubik's Cube tonight, I've challenged the producer to
a Rubik's Cube duel, but it's I think he's I

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think he's practicing more than he lets on. But anyway,
and I've got to get my times down on about
one minute, well one min eighteen but that was a
lucky soul. So anyway, I shall keep you posted. We
might be televising the showdown alough, I don't think it's
going to happen for about three years. I'm not going
to go and tube rais Dans. I'm confident I can win.

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It might be in the rest home by the time
that happens. Anyway, So here we are once again. I'll
tell you something that I kind of think about from
time to time. And it was prompted by an article
in the Daily Mail. It's a photo that claims time

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travel exists. It looks like someone in the photo has
got an iPad. It's from the nineteen forties, and these
stories come up from time to time. And there was
a woman there on a mobile phone, and there was
a woman on a scooter. And they always say, is
this proof time travel exists? Never is? But where are

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we with time travel? I spend quite a lot of
time thinking about time travel, and where I end up
is this, If time travel is invented in the future,
like it could be fifty years from now or three

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hundred years from now, depending on how long this planet lasts,
wouldn't we have been visited by someone that someone would
have come back and shared the technology with us. And

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if I extrapolate that further, isn't the reverse of that
meaning that it can never exist, otherwise we would have
seen evidence of it. Becau's all sorts of things you
can say, well, they'll happen in the future and we'll
never know. But time travel is the one thing. If
it does happen in the future, we would know about

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it because someone would have come to us and told
us about it. I mean, if you, with some of
them invented time travel, you'd be traveling back in time
to tell people. You're not going to come back quietly,
are you? You're going to say I'm from the future.
This is my time travel.

Speaker 3 (03:21):
Missure.

Speaker 2 (03:21):
Anyway, I spend a lot of time thinking about time
travel too much, But I'm also for discussion. Does anyone
think it's going to be possible? And if it is possible,
why haven't we seen evidence of it? You might have
read some science fiction books or some seen some TV
drama that explains more about that. But yeah, that's kind

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of what I would like to start the whole discussion
about tonight. It feels slightly more like an after ten
o'clock discussion. But I'm curious though, if you think that
my thinkings are skew when I say time travel will
never be invented in the future, because we would have
found out about it. What's your thoughts on that? Just
quickly as you drive home from work or no one
goes to work at him or do they work from home?

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Get in touch. My name's Marcus Hehitt tw of eight
hundred and eighty eight. By the way, for people on
the West coast, we're off air. Someone said maybe you
can only go forward. Well that's an interesting point. There
is a maintenance news talks. They'd be on twelve eighty

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seven WISP, but will be off here for maintenance between
ten pm and three am. Where do you think the
transmitter would be? Listeners can stay with us on ninety
five point seventy f M or online via iHeartRadio. Marcus,
can you please give this a mention before tonight's outage done?
And thank you for spilling tonight the correct way? There

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we go, that's happening here to midnight talking time travel.
Maybe you only move one direction, but I want to
know your theory on time travel. I'd like to know
all of your theories on time travel. Actually to occupies
most of my time as time travel, thoughts on time travel,
and thoughts on alien civilizations. So if you got something

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to say, about that. I would love to hear from you.
Oh eight hundred and eighty Teddy and nine nine to text. Yeah.
Someone says maybe you can only go forward. I think
I've thought of that in the past, and that's not
a bad idea. But why would it be. I mean,
I'm sure that I don't even know that. Where we
are with the technology, it seems like a long way away. Steve,

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what's your thoughts on this?

Speaker 4 (05:38):
Well, I'm just a thinking person, I woll Well, I
look at the stars in the sky, and every one
of those stars has probably got a planet system going
around it. There has to be other life in the
millions of millions of stars. They're probably thinking the same thing,

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the likelihood or something another another life form looking back
at us.

Speaker 2 (06:09):
But I was keen more about time travel rather than
still travel.

Speaker 4 (06:14):
If we if we could go forward to say it
would probably be and then come back and so well,
in the future, something's going to happen. We wouldn't be
able to change the destiny of the planet. If we
went back in time, we could put to rights errors

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that we've made. They can come back to the future.
But no, I don't think we could.

Speaker 2 (06:46):
Okay, according to Brian Cox. Somebven's ticked it maybe possible
travel for but never back. What's the paralysis, what's the
reasoning for that? If someone could explain that to me, Rachel,
it's Marcus. Welcome, good evening, Hey Marcus, how's it going good?
Thank you? Rachel?

Speaker 5 (07:01):
It sucks.

Speaker 2 (07:06):
What what did you want to say? I presume you're
not calling from I presume you're not calling from the future.

Speaker 5 (07:12):
Definitely not calling from the future. I just yeah, I
just don't. I don't. I don't think it's the same.
I don't think it's ever going to happen, and if
it does, I'd love someone to explain to me how
it's going to happen.

Speaker 2 (07:29):
But surely, sure, surely in the future everything's possible.

Speaker 5 (07:35):
No, I just don't think that's possible. I think lots
of things are possible, but I just don't think that's possible.

Speaker 2 (07:44):
Is it only not possible because it means that people
could come back to the present time and change everything,
So that again, no, that's complicated. I'm saying, is it
not possible because it means if time travels invented in
the future, it means that people would come back and
kind of kill Hitler and stuff, wouldn't it, And therefore
our our present history would be a work in progress

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because people be traveling back in time interfering with it
the whole time.

Speaker 5 (08:11):
Well, yeah, I think there was this part of it
because it's want of right.

Speaker 2 (08:15):
Wrong it happened.

Speaker 5 (08:18):
I just yeah, I just don't think it's the thing.
I mean, it proves me wrong definitely. That No, I
just can't see it being a thing.

Speaker 2 (08:28):
I can't prove you're something wrong, something happen in the future.
I'm hearing you diego it's Marcus. Good evening, Hey Marcus.

Speaker 6 (08:35):
Yes, so you asked why people think that you can
only go forward, and it's kind of complicated topics, but
the short answer is entropy. Things tend to move towards
a position where they have the most possible states ahead
of them, so they can they can be in more

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places in their future.

Speaker 2 (08:57):
That's not entropy, though, is it. That is interview interpiece
just to plan on Wines. It's in its lower energy state.
Buttom that things just unwind, that they go to their
lowest energy state.

Speaker 6 (09:12):
Yes, the lowest energy state is the one where there
are the most possible positions at least I'm i might
I might be mistaken, And that was one of the
uh sorry, that was one of the explanations I heard
from my physics lecturer. You need another. Another thing, is
it's possible that you can only travel backwards to the

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point where time travel became a thing.

Speaker 2 (09:36):
Oh wow, that's interesting.

Speaker 6 (09:39):
Yeah. And then just quick, sorry, go ahead.

Speaker 2 (09:43):
No, I'm liking that. I'm liking that a lot. So
you can travel back in time, but only back as
far as when time trevel was invented.

Speaker 6 (09:51):
Yeah, yeah, that's that's what some people think as well.

Speaker 2 (09:53):
Okay, and I agree with that because otherwise we would
know there'd been time trevel because someone would have come
back to us.

Speaker 7 (10:00):
Yeah yeah, ok.

Speaker 6 (10:01):
And then, just before I go on, aliens, some people
think believe in the dark forest hypothesis. And that's where
you don't. We don't hear anything because everyone's too scared
to attract something bigger. Like if you're in a dark
forest and there's a big bear walking.

Speaker 2 (10:20):
Around, understand that. That's a good one. Yeah, that makes
But just just tell me about time travel and entropy.
I don't think I fully grasped what you were saying
there with the entropy thing, So obviously the part, it's
like its lowest energy state or it likes to unwind.
And what does it have to do with time travel?

Speaker 6 (10:40):
So the law of entropy things, well, the sorry, give
me the reason why I bring up entropy and time
is because according to the laws of entropy, time can
only move forward, right, which is why if you travel

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at relativistic speeds, right, you'll be you'll be moving forward,
but be moving forward slower than any any observers and
external observers.

Speaker 8 (11:12):
Yeah, understand, And it's it's that that's why I might
I might be wrong about the description of entropy itself,
but I know that because of entropy, time can only
move forward.

Speaker 2 (11:26):
It says in Wikipedia entropy is one of the few
qualities in the physical science that requires a particular direction
for time an hour of time.

Speaker 8 (11:35):
Okay, yeah, so.

Speaker 2 (11:38):
If I travel backwards in time for my reference from
the entropy would decrease, which is contradictory. Yeah, okay, it's good.
I appreciate you coming through with that, Diego that we've
got to show devon it. Devin, it's Marcus. Good evening
and welcome.

Speaker 9 (11:52):
Thank how you're doing you good, Thank you.

Speaker 10 (11:54):
Divin you're talking about time travel you're saying, what would
you do if we could? We we can and we have,
we've we've already time traveled. We know the recipe. Well,
we can get to the future. The faster we go,
the more time slows down. So astronauts in space are
cosmonaut so in space traveling at a particular speed that

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when he came back down to Earth he was actually
two was zero point two seconds behind the rest of us. Sorry,
in the future, it was in the head. So if
you we went at nine percent the speed of light
for seven years, you would age seven years going speed
of light, but Earth would age five Like time slows

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down for you as the faster you go.

Speaker 2 (12:45):
Yeah, but I don't think that's yeah, Okay, that's a
that's a specific version of time. That's a that's a.

Speaker 10 (12:52):
Well, that's that's a that's recipe we know of, Like
I mean, we know that we can do that. We
just don't have the technological capability to get that fast.

Speaker 2 (13:01):
Yeah, And it doesn't it doesn't seem that practical, that
does it, Although I guess time travel never seems practical,
does it.

Speaker 10 (13:14):
Well no, no, But I mean at the end of
the day, I mean, it's all theory until we're able
to do it, and so far all we've been able
to do is travel in the future very very small
amount micro sicns.

Speaker 2 (13:27):
And you reckon continue with that like it makes you
do something that could happen, but then you can't go.

Speaker 10 (13:33):
No, you can never go. Well, as far as we know,
we can't get that good so far. I mean, there's
nothing on paper that mathematically comes up and says, oh, yep,
that should work if we, you know, get to a
technological level at this point, like we know the recipe
to go to the future, we just have to go faster.

(13:53):
And I mean humans are certainly getting faster, cars are
on getting faster, rockets are getting faster. Surely will come
up with technology and hopefully a couple of thousand years
and we might order shoot across time.

Speaker 11 (14:06):
You just don't know.

Speaker 2 (14:08):
Nice to hear from you, Devon, Thank you, Devon. You're
putting him Devon like Devo Judith. It's Marcus. Welcome with even.

Speaker 12 (14:15):
Oh being Marcus.

Speaker 13 (14:16):
Nice to hear you.

Speaker 14 (14:17):
Love the voice again, Marcus. Every day I have time
travel every day.

Speaker 2 (14:24):
Tell me about that.

Speaker 14 (14:26):
Well, it means like when you have to make a decision,
and apparently every human being has seventy decisions be a
minimum each day, and that means did you learn by
your mistakes? And it's called a conscience And if you

(14:47):
don't have a conscience, then you can make crime against
the law.

Speaker 2 (14:55):
Yeah, is it time travel though, Adam? Is it the
same as time privel?

Speaker 3 (15:03):
Yes?

Speaker 2 (15:07):
It sounds a bit different to me, but nice to
hear from you do the twenty five past eight, Gregg,
it's Greg, It's Marcus. Welcome high, Gregy.

Speaker 15 (15:15):
Marcus.

Speaker 7 (15:16):
I was sort of compelled to ring because I guess
I'm I'm a delta and these subjects, although I did
listen to a podcast recently famous last Words.

Speaker 4 (15:31):
And.

Speaker 2 (15:35):
Well there's enough of them, Greg.

Speaker 7 (15:37):
Mate, They're they're They're all in sundry now, aren't they?

Speaker 2 (15:40):
Every single media person now has their own, So I've gone,
what will they'll just talk to each other anyway?

Speaker 7 (15:47):
What's the jagline?

Speaker 11 (15:48):
Like?

Speaker 7 (15:49):
We get your podcasts? Really? Where you get your podcasts?
I think theoretically time travel is actually real, and a
couple of calls back illustrated that very well. But my
main point is that I was a massive delta on

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aliens generally, but this particular podcaster I was listening to
and everyone will pack it up once I say it.
I think is that he said that. Imagine if you're
a fish and humans were fishing and picking, putting down
a line and hooking you up, and you're the fish,

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you would get picked up by the human fishing, and
then I think you'd been picked up by aliens, take
the hog out of your mouth and go I'm not
good enough, throw you back in, and as a fish,
you'd be like, oh, that was an alien experience. And
I think obviously humans are animals, so we are potentially

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not brainy enough or smart enough, or advanced enough, or
whatever the case may be to understand that there's actually
the biggest stuff out there than us. And hopefully I
illustrated what I was trying to say.

Speaker 16 (17:15):
Well, there, yeah, I.

Speaker 2 (17:16):
Can understand that, So I'm just going to get the
whole system of scale, right.

Speaker 7 (17:21):
Yeah, And like, as we know, we're a small dot
and a massive galaxies, so we should probably understand that
there's heaps of stuff we don't know as well. And
I guess we're always trying to pursue knowledge. So I

(17:42):
wish you got to keep going with that.

Speaker 2 (17:44):
I think the more cynical thing about aliens is that
planets take a long time to evolve and to produce life,
intelligent life. Yes, and the amount of time that the
amount of time the intelligent life exists compared to the
life of the planet is very, very small, because what

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will happen is oultimately planets, people's creatures, life forms develop
technology that they can wipe each other out. And that
always seems to be the arc of every planet, including
our own. So you know, you only might be there
for you might get to a planet, but the life
is only there for probably one millionth of a percent

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of the time that the planet's around. So it's kind
of a sweet spot, but.

Speaker 7 (18:32):
Really well sitting there. And I guess that's why the
subjects so interesting, because like time is actually a major
factor in everything, but we're only seeing a small percentage
of it.

Speaker 2 (18:46):
And I guess then you got to work out why
why aliens would want to travel to this planet too,
because what's the because you know, I mean, they're getting
the information just to get into our cell phones. They
could do that remotely, couldn't it. Yeah that might.

Speaker 7 (18:59):
Yeah, you're a show for the rest of the nightmare,
I hope.

Speaker 2 (19:02):
So something else is come up on my screen, Dan,
there's something that says cool, log I clicked on the
wrong They can see that a anyway. I'll wait one
hundred eighty to thirty nine two nine to text one
names of Marcus hit on Midnight. What a day. I
just wanted some people to wring up with some really
clear facts and say what about this. I love those

(19:26):
in this book. They prove that can't happen because of that.
But I don't know about space travel. But maybe it
does only go forward. I think it's going to happen
in my lifetime. Even Stephen Hawking stated that perhaps only

(19:50):
travel can go forward, and that would explain why the
world has not already been overrun by tourists from the future.
And several people have tried to order events to entice
future humans. Yeah, like Perth had a Destination Day. These

(20:12):
are events that you advertise in the future of people
to come back with their time travel machines and all
meet in some place and to demonstrate their technology goodness.
I'll be into that. There's also the grandfather paradox. The

(20:32):
person goes back in time and kills their own grandfather,
prevents their existence, because then what happens if you go
back and change the past, and then you can't exist
in the future. Yes, good evening, dB, it's Marcus. Welcome.

Speaker 15 (21:00):
A lot of writers have got very rich excluding that
paradox of the grandfather effect. Yeah, all right, that's that's
fiber you want to take.

Speaker 2 (21:14):
Because this is a hard topic to understand. Can you
get your phone line as best as you can?

Speaker 10 (21:18):
dB?

Speaker 15 (21:21):
Well, well, good a crack.

Speaker 2 (21:23):
You like you're coming from the past.

Speaker 15 (21:26):
Well technically I am. It's only million seconds, but it
is the past.

Speaker 2 (21:32):
Very funny thing to say on a talk radio show. Yes, okay,
all right.

Speaker 15 (21:37):
You're gonna take some on the size of a human being,
because that's what we like to think of. You're going
to dematerialize them, thus causing a out a large vacuum,
and rematerialize them somewhere in the past prefectly, not inside
a rock or anywhere. You're gonna You're gonna take a

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hundred kilos of matter and suddenly materialize it even in air.
That's called explosion.

Speaker 2 (22:11):
So far, Yes, I'm enjoying it so far, but keep
going yep.

Speaker 17 (22:19):
So with the accuracy of it, we know we we
visualize time travel on a human scale, and we had
visualize It's like ghosts.

Speaker 15 (22:33):
Those don't sink and flows. They don't. They can pass
through a wall, but they an't set through a floor.

Speaker 2 (22:39):
It's a very good point you make there. It's a
very good point you make. What why can't they go
through walls and not? How do you contain them? It's
a very good point.

Speaker 15 (22:49):
Because they're a human construct, and so is time travel.
We want to be able to go back or forward
or anywhere other than.

Speaker 2 (23:00):
Where we is because we feel trapped in our own generation.
Is that what you're.

Speaker 15 (23:03):
Saying, general, that's a well, I agree with you.

Speaker 2 (23:08):
I don't feel trapped, but well I do today with
the weather.

Speaker 3 (23:11):
But anyway, well.

Speaker 15 (23:13):
You brought up the subjects.

Speaker 13 (23:17):
Before.

Speaker 15 (23:17):
You're you're interested in getting out of where you is
or an idea of how to do it, you might
I want to go It's like the space station. Everywhere
knows where it is. Nobody wants to go there except
the humillionaires millions.

Speaker 2 (23:36):
Did ancient civilizations talk about time prevel.

Speaker 15 (23:40):
Absolutely, because they also invented God's gods live in the sky,
look after what's going to happen in the future. They
looked after what happened in the past. We still do
it today we call it religion. I get that we
need something bigger than ourselves because that's the human nature

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of it.

Speaker 2 (24:03):
So how can you actually say that time prevel will
never exists? Can you say because we would have met
future tourists, we would have met them by now, right?
Is that that's you'd be happy to go with that?

Speaker 15 (24:15):
I can. I know how time dilation was because you
and hope we can.

Speaker 18 (24:20):
We can.

Speaker 15 (24:22):
We use it every day when you turn on your GPS.
We understand time dilation. Time travel. No, sorry, it's a
nice to have. It ain't going to.

Speaker 2 (24:35):
But can you prove it won't happen?

Speaker 15 (24:38):
Can I prove it? I can't prove that you exist.
How would I prove the time travel exist?

Speaker 2 (24:45):
Yeah, I'd say that. I'd say we can prove it
won't happen because it would have happened by now. That's
my take on it. Keep your texts coming through too,
I'm loving those. She got deep quick, didn't we tonight?
Always good to hear about time travel. Good evening, Marcus
texting from the past, Live on the West Coast, where

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thirty years behind the rest of the country and the
good way, of course, Paul Marcus I'd love to go
back to the seventies and see my girlfriend from Hunt
Felly High. Oh yeah, but oh you should be the same,
Would you be the same, you'd be old, it should
be the same, age, be weird. Craig gets Marcus good evening.

Speaker 15 (25:27):
Evening, Marcus.

Speaker 9 (25:29):
In some ways you are from the future too, if
you were delay for the radio and all that.

Speaker 2 (25:32):
That's exactly it's exactly right. Yes, So yeah, up from
eight seconds in the future exactly going to be proud
of and Craig, yep, you're eight seconds in the future
as well.

Speaker 9 (25:48):
Well, it doesn't look much stuffer in the next seconds
later on.

Speaker 2 (25:51):
So you are with me, you are with me, and
everyone else is hearing you and me eight seconds later.

Speaker 9 (25:56):
Yes, so maybe they should be asking you what the
future's like.

Speaker 2 (25:59):
Well maybe they should be actually really focusing on turning
their radios off.

Speaker 9 (26:03):
Yeah, well let too, and also not wearing on air.
The other there I have is if you would invent
They used to do producing for radio as well, so
spent a lot of time thinking at weird hours in
the mornings. But I used to think, well, if you produced,
if you've made a machine in the future that could
go back in time, and then you went back in

(26:23):
time and showed people the machine. Obviously I had any
travels in time lot places. Then wouldn't you technically affect
the past with people looking at your machine, and maybe
they could change these also the past to the point
that you never invented in the first place.

Speaker 2 (26:38):
They could pick up that technology, couldn't they. You could
jump start that technology. They might bring back some sort
of nuclear fish and generator, and that science would be
spread back and spread to earlier days.

Speaker 9 (26:51):
And then you change the future to the point that
you never invented in the first place. So then it's
kind of a way, how can you go back and
to the past with something invented, because that could affect
the future where you never invented in the first place.
So it's kind of like a condundrum, really, isn't it.

Speaker 2 (27:04):
And that technology you took back earlier in time could
also be the technology could mean the planet could use
to destroy itself before you even existed in the forward.

Speaker 9 (27:12):
Time exactly, so you may not even exist.

Speaker 2 (27:15):
No, you might kill yourself by traveling back in time.

Speaker 9 (27:19):
Yeah, yeah, it's an interesting concept, but I'll carry on listing.

Speaker 2 (27:22):
But that's sometimes I just get them. Sometimes I have
troubled just get into the dairy, let alone to the field.
I mean, would it would people want to go.

Speaker 9 (27:30):
I haven't had enough time to get wake up in
the morning early enough to go to work little and
going oh if I sleep and I can go back
in time, because it's like, well.

Speaker 2 (27:36):
Tell your boss you're look you tell your boss you're
a night person, or do you work for yourself?

Speaker 9 (27:41):
I worked for a boss, but I tried to say
and sad of a while ago, can I work nights?
And he goes no.

Speaker 16 (27:46):
It's like, oh, okay, so.

Speaker 2 (27:47):
Wow, that's a good meeting.

Speaker 9 (27:49):
Yeah, apparently all the customers they only worked during the daytime.
So it's kind of a lot of inconvenience said, well,
that's not that's not.

Speaker 2 (27:55):
Inven my fault make you should get into a bit
of business with people up at night warring things.

Speaker 9 (28:00):
Yeah, so Irick may actually work for Meccas or something exactly.

Speaker 2 (28:04):
Schepers. Don't get me started on Mechas. Where's Jen Jen Jen?

Speaker 19 (28:10):
Oh?

Speaker 10 (28:11):
Jan?

Speaker 2 (28:12):
I can tell I can't break the future jam, but
i'd like to. I'd like to see you back there
in the in the list. I think it'd be good
on time travel, good evening, Tony, It's Marcus. Welcome.

Speaker 10 (28:26):
Oh, I was just thinking of you know, like that
at the time and all that. You know, every year
we put our phones.

Speaker 13 (28:38):
Our time.

Speaker 10 (28:40):
An hour forward and an hour back. So is it
classified as us going affward in time and back in time?

Speaker 2 (28:50):
Pretty much? This isn't it? And that happens this weekend?

Speaker 10 (28:55):
Yeah, that's why I was just thinking you this daylight
saving for this is this weekend.

Speaker 20 (29:01):
So the transi fiers go going forward in time.

Speaker 10 (29:05):
And back in time.

Speaker 2 (29:06):
What does make an interesting point because the other thing
about time prevalent is do you can you can you
travel and time? Because most people when they travel and
time do they travel geographically as well? Well, I'm thinking
back to the future. They went right back to the
same place, didn't they with that clock? Jan Marcus welcome.

Speaker 21 (29:24):
Oh hi, dear Marcus. I'm very impressed. You seem to
be going later all.

Speaker 2 (29:31):
Jen, I found your voice free relaxing. You should do
podcasts or talking books.

Speaker 21 (29:38):
Oh well, that's a good idea.

Speaker 2 (29:40):
You've got a very You've got a very relaxing is
a feel if relaxed by you.

Speaker 21 (29:46):
Really hope, I hope that's true.

Speaker 2 (29:49):
You got recarming what you should you should? You could
probably use it to do I don't know what you
do with your calming voice, but to do sort of
breathing constructional videos.

Speaker 21 (30:01):
Doc meditation, incialization. I used to do that and I
wrote a book about it.

Speaker 2 (30:09):
I'm not surprised. Yeah, take me through visualization now.

Speaker 21 (30:15):
Ah, do you think you could do it on here?

Speaker 2 (30:18):
I think I couldn't it.

Speaker 21 (30:20):
Okay, I'll try. My voice is a bit tired. Okay,
you really need to do the breed and breed in
for five, counter five, hold it for five, and then
bread out to five. You do that at five times.
So we haven't got time for that. But if you

(30:43):
do it once, it will help help and then you're ready.
You know, Well, you need to be lying down or
sitting in the Okay, shut your eyes. I want you
to imagine you're in the garden with a high wall

(31:05):
around it, big high wall, and you can't see over
the wall, so you don't know what's on the other side.
All you know is what's in the garden. So it's
a series of things you look at in the garden.
It's their water, Yes, is there an animal in the

(31:27):
garden somewhere? You might have to go deeper down the path.

Speaker 2 (31:32):
The animal is something down there, okay.

Speaker 13 (31:36):
There's water in a shine okay.

Speaker 21 (31:39):
And you find a key on the path, and you
wonder what key is for that? You might just put
that in your pocket. And are there flowers.

Speaker 2 (31:51):
It's got colors, lots of flowers, purple flowers, purple and orange,
orange and yellow flowers.

Speaker 21 (31:59):
Lovely. And you walk along the pathway towards the door
in the wall or a gate, and you go towards
the gate. Do you need the key to get out
the gate?

Speaker 2 (32:15):
I think I will use the key.

Speaker 22 (32:20):
Yeah.

Speaker 21 (32:21):
So now open the door and look through the opening
to see what you can see on the other side.

Speaker 2 (32:30):
Fields a field, fields fields, yep field.

Speaker 21 (32:38):
When you're ready, you can open your eyes and I'll
tell you what it all means.

Speaker 2 (32:44):
Okay, eyes are open, Okay.

Speaker 21 (32:48):
Now the animal, it's how your subconscious sees you. So
it's the sheep, which is nice, a nice animal. And
the colors and your garden. What was the purple and yellow?

Speaker 2 (33:05):
An orange?

Speaker 21 (33:06):
Orange? And so those are the colors you need to
wear for healing, Okay. Need to have those colors around
you for healing. Yes, And you had water in the gardens.

Speaker 2 (33:20):
Yes, and that.

Speaker 21 (33:22):
Is also for healing, right. And the water will heal
you if you get into the water, put your feet
in it or bathe in it. That's what you need
to heal you. And the key is your greatest desire,
which was to go through the gate. And that means

(33:44):
you want to go into the future. You want to
move from the current time into the future, and that's.

Speaker 2 (33:52):
What we're talking about. You hang there, general come back
to have it's got commercials, yes, realities come knocking at
the door, hasn't it. Little sheepy markers bah bah? What
did you want to say about time travelge?

Speaker 21 (34:08):
I'll just tell you one more thing. That sheep that
you saw, was there something wrong with it or it
didn't need something?

Speaker 2 (34:18):
It seemed lonely, but seemed quite happy.

Speaker 11 (34:23):
That's you.

Speaker 23 (34:24):
That's you.

Speaker 21 (34:26):
You can also google color therapy and find out what
those two colors mean, the.

Speaker 2 (34:32):
Three I think the purple, orange, and yellow.

Speaker 21 (34:35):
Yeah, so that's a balance because yellow is complimentary to purple. Yeah,
that's a very good balance. And the fields outside the gate,
that's your future, and it's a I look peaceful and
you know, nice pasture.

Speaker 24 (34:57):
Am I going to become a sheep.

Speaker 2 (34:59):
Am I going to become a dairy farmer?

Speaker 22 (35:01):
No, a sheep pat in the pasture?

Speaker 21 (35:04):
Okay, sorry, I'm just following the whole picture. Now, time travel.
I don't know if you've heard of astral travel? Have
you heard of that?

Speaker 2 (35:18):
A little bit, isn't it? It's a isn't it a
Fan Morrison album? But yes, I have heard of estral weeks.
I've kind of heard of estral travel.

Speaker 21 (35:26):
I think, oh good, Oh well, some people who are
at more advanced spiritually in astral travel. My father used
to do it, and I do it, and I think
there are a lot of other people in the world,
if you can.

Speaker 2 (35:45):
Was your father advanced spiritually?

Speaker 21 (35:48):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (35:48):
Very in what way?

Speaker 21 (35:49):
Very knowing? Well, he could read people.

Speaker 10 (35:53):
Wow, he could look.

Speaker 21 (35:54):
At people and he'd tell you all about them. And honestly,
boyfriends I used to bring home, he'd told me all
about them and tell me to stay well clear of them.
Mostly so he could read people. He'd know if you're
sick and there'd be no sign of it, but he'd
know if someone sick. All those sorts of things. Very deep.

Speaker 2 (36:19):
Was there a boyfriend in the end that he approved of?

Speaker 21 (36:23):
Yes, he did a lot and yeah, he liked him
a lot, but we broke up anyway. Yes, Now, some
some cultures I feel can go back in time, if
you know what I mean. They can be quite civilized,

(36:46):
and then they can reverse or regress and go back
in time to being how they were many generations first.
So I'll let your work that went out for yourself,
because I've probably used up all my time.

Speaker 2 (37:03):
Thanks Jen, nice to hear, Nice to hear, friend, Welcome,
good evening. Now probably you won't believe this, but when
Jan told me to think of an animal, I originally
thought of a wolf. But then I thought, well, that's
not going to seem like there'd be a wolf in
the garden. So I didn't want to be told that

(37:27):
there was no such thing as a wolf in that garden.
As I said, sheep, But actually I was thinking of
a wolf. Was it my spirit animal or my subconscious?
She said, was the sheep? It's how my subconscious sees me.
I think my subconscious sees me as a wolf, not
a sheep. I know you can't really change the visualiation
exercise after it was, but I definitely saw a wolf,

(37:49):
and close my eyes again, clear as day, I can
see the wolf a black and white colored wolf couldn't
really see the sheep. We've got a sheep at the
oment that's driving me crazy. We've got a lamb at home,
and boy is it noisy. A couple things about the lamb.

(38:10):
Boy they let you know when it's time for the fee,
don't they? And boy do they suck on the teeth
cheapest creepers. Anyway, most of you will know that three
weeks of ten, I think before she's good to go
on her own. Anyway, where would you go with? I
think when people say where would your time travel? People

(38:31):
have some kitchen answer. I don't really have a kitchen answer.
Will I go forward while I go back? Would I'd
never go into the future. I've got no interest in that. Actually,
I've got that was interested in the past. How you
go in the future? Where would you go? And how
many years would you go?

Speaker 10 (38:51):
Oh?

Speaker 2 (38:51):
No, anyway, good evening, nickets, Marcus, welcome.

Speaker 25 (38:58):
Good a Marcus. Maybe you're a wolf in sheep's clothing.
Now that's getting deep, isn't it.

Speaker 7 (39:05):
Now?

Speaker 25 (39:06):
Explain yourself out of that one, yourself out, Nick?

Speaker 14 (39:11):
Nick?

Speaker 2 (39:11):
Were you visualizing in the home on your own? Where
were you driving? Didn't want to put yourself to side.

Speaker 25 (39:15):
I was listening very closely to your yours, your vision. Gosh,
it was interesting.

Speaker 2 (39:25):
Thanks. I'm just going to say something six. You was going,
oh that here we go with the gators, jeers, creepers.
It's too much information anyway. Well, yes, Estra travel. Oh

(40:01):
my god, Jam's voice is horrible to me. She triggers me.
This funny text, Marcus been good to go back in
time for the late seventies to be able to have
Georgie Pike Calston. If any of your other listeners have
got time travel sort and could they bring me back

(40:21):
one of the apple pies please? It's been over forty years.
Would you get an apple pie? Would you get a
black bread apple pie? I should have known that there's
going to be answers to the Arthur was just going
to be a meditation thing. I didn't know that my
answers were loaded. Anyway, humans remain the only animal that

(41:00):
can directly affect the future. For instance, you're arranged to
meet some of a certain place a certain time, and
then you do planning new railways. Not so much. Wow, anyway,
let's hear from you. People want to talk. My name

(41:21):
is Marcus Hddle twelve. Marcus had a great day today
and matarangi playing golf and subsequently drinking beer, planning on
fishing tomorrow with your time traveling nonsense. Can you tell
me is that worth us going out in the boat
in the morning. Should we just play golf? Never bear,
see you in eight seconds. Luka, ailely, I'd go fishing, Lucile, Marcus,

(41:49):
AI will get smarter than we are. An answer of
the questions, right, you have questions too, Marcus. It's not
uncommon that ghosts have been reported to go through floors,
and some descriptions are top half an enter tea has
been seeing the assumption when the floor was lower in
an earlier time. Very good, Very good. You don't know

(42:19):
about walls and not floors, and how to ghosts of
furniture like cheers, they can sit on. Hello, Pauline, it's Marcus.

Speaker 26 (42:32):
Good evening, Good evening, Marcus. About time travel, imagine someone
from the nineteen hundred, the year nineteen hundred time traveled
to twenty twenty four. They would be confused, out of
place and not understanding their surroundings. So how would you

(42:54):
feel going two hundred years into the future. You wouldn't
You wouldn't understand anything that you were seeing or feeling
or hearing.

Speaker 2 (43:03):
A be easy to spot, wouldn't I with my clothes
and my language and my ill disposition, maybe I couldn't hide.

Speaker 26 (43:16):
No, you couldn't.

Speaker 2 (43:21):
Yeah, yeah, I don't think I would travel to the future. No,
it doesn't interest in me. In the future. I find
it all quite daunting.

Speaker 26 (43:28):
I think it would be too scary. I'd rather go
back in time.

Speaker 2 (43:32):
But we're at so old fashioned. Where would you go?

Speaker 26 (43:35):
Yes, but it was simple?

Speaker 10 (43:40):
But were simple?

Speaker 2 (43:41):
Where would you go for a squiz? Where would you
go to look at?

Speaker 26 (43:45):
Probably Rome? What have a chat with Julius Caesar for
a stuff? Brutus?

Speaker 2 (43:56):
Wow, watch out for Brutus Julius, he's going to stab
you in the back.

Speaker 26 (44:01):
Actually, this makes me wonder about the people who can
talk to you on the phone and tell you about things.
Maybe they are coming back from the future, just as
I said that i'd tell Julius Caesar about Buddhists.

Speaker 2 (44:15):
Well, I don't think I've ever had a talkback call
from the future.

Speaker 26 (44:19):
Oh you're not sure there are you?

Speaker 2 (44:21):
Well, no, how would you know?

Speaker 26 (44:23):
Well, that's true.

Speaker 2 (44:24):
If they invent time travel. I think it would be
easier to invent the phone from the future, wouldn't it.

Speaker 26 (44:31):
If you're time traveling, you can't travel in human.

Speaker 2 (44:34):
Form, Okay, tell me about that.

Speaker 26 (44:38):
Well, it's just I can't imagine that we would be
able to time travel.

Speaker 10 (44:42):
Oh.

Speaker 26 (44:43):
Remember over in Europe somewhere, people were staying in a
place on holiday and the woman who heard the woman
heard this awful battle going on outside, and she was
told later on that battle happened hundreds of years ago.

Speaker 2 (45:06):
Was it mecho, I don't know.

Speaker 26 (45:10):
I just remember reading about it.

Speaker 2 (45:16):
I don't know what it's like when you experience something
from the past, when you're at a place, it's a
bit weird. The other thing is, before I go, you're
going somewhere.

Speaker 26 (45:26):
Yeah, offline, just before I do, just before I do.
Wolf family used to talk about an aunt in the
old days, and when she was dying, she welcomed her
husband into the room. But he died before her, years
before her. Now, if someone who is dying was looking

(45:53):
joyful and welcoming someone that no one else can see,
there has to be something that we don't understand.

Speaker 2 (46:01):
It's a good thing to say when you're dying, though,
isn't it to make out you are in touch with people?

Speaker 26 (46:06):
I think you'd actually be thinking, gee, I think i'll
pull the family.

Speaker 11 (46:09):
You know, well, do you.

Speaker 2 (46:10):
Know you might be a wolf like me? Their old Pauline.
You might want to do something a bit differently. But
I'd be trying to get a bit of a laugh
in my final moments.

Speaker 26 (46:18):
I'd think, well, that black and white wolf you were
talking about in the garden sounds like a border Collie
to me.

Speaker 2 (46:24):
It did look at bit border wolf's black and white.
I couldn't quite No, they're not sure.

Speaker 26 (46:29):
You're a border collie. You're a border collie?

Speaker 9 (46:34):
You them up?

Speaker 2 (46:35):
Let me work a picture for a wolf. No, they
are black and white. They've got that white. It's not
a corgy, I can see it now. Do you say
corgy or a border corgy?

Speaker 25 (46:46):
No border?

Speaker 26 (46:48):
You know there's.

Speaker 2 (46:51):
Lessie Pauline. Thank you. Well, she was a bit of fun,
wouldn't she. That'd be good thing to say when you don't.
I like to welcome every under the room with me.
I don't know why I had to have a key.
Why did the cake? Did you say? What the key meant?
Doesn't need the key? Very free in my subconscious. Get

(47:15):
in touch. My name is Marcus Welcome. Time travel exists
through photographs and Arthur Clark's science fiction story. One event
many time travelers wanted to go to was the day
of the Crucifixion. The protagonist's time trevel also went back
to that day and was horrified to find themselves surrounded
by other travelers. They were all joining in to hide

(47:39):
that they were time travelers, but all the mobs shouting
were time travelers. That's interesting. I hope that's not. I
hope that's doesn't feel blessphemous. But that's a remark because
it is the most It is the most memorable event
in Christian history, is the Crucifixion, and it would be

(48:00):
a place for time travelers to go to, wouldn't it
to witness that I hadn't thought about that. So have
you got great events in history? A lot of the
people at those events would be time travelers if there
was time travel. So yeah, like at the crucifixion, or
like at the assassination of JFK or something like that.

(48:21):
I never thought about that. Quite smart, old Arthur C.

Speaker 16 (48:23):
Clark.

Speaker 2 (48:25):
I should read more science fiction. Always mean to, but
some of it's been out there. Hi Richard ats Marcus welcome.

Speaker 20 (48:36):
How are you doing? Marcus?

Speaker 17 (48:37):
Good?

Speaker 2 (48:38):
Thank you, Richard.

Speaker 20 (48:39):
I try and bring you once a Month's about You're
amazing the way you just keep talking about anything.

Speaker 15 (48:46):
You're really good.

Speaker 20 (48:47):
You're really good at your job. No, I jumped in
your life a couple of minutes and I didn't realize
was on time travel. I would just say that woman
talked about an experience with her auntie. She welcomed her
previously past husband. She's just talking about Indy. He needed experiences.

(49:07):
There's thousands of them. People that have clinically died for
ten minutes or half an hour come back to this
world with a story. Really the scientific city you can
can jump on. Cut the thousands of them, all from
all different faces and all different things.

Speaker 2 (49:22):
Yeah, Nde, are you lighter?

Speaker 11 (49:28):
Say again?

Speaker 2 (49:29):
Are you wayless?

Speaker 13 (49:30):
Oh?

Speaker 19 (49:30):
Yeah?

Speaker 20 (49:32):
You know there's people that have been eight yeists or
people that have been high whatever, and they just have
this that just blows their mind. I mean, no, I
don't want to try and steal the thunder, but it's
just called Indie. It's just basically science coming in from
a different angle. Lots of lots of top doctors, all
sorts of people from all different walks of life. But
the ones that were dead the hard stop beat and

(49:54):
they were dead for fifteen minutes or half an hour
or whatever.

Speaker 2 (49:58):
And who have they gone down some tunnel or something?

Speaker 23 (50:01):
Oh?

Speaker 20 (50:01):
Yeah, well they're all experienced nine very similar things. I
don't want to try, don't explain it. But the point
is they ain't scared of death after that?

Speaker 2 (50:12):
Wow.

Speaker 20 (50:14):
Anyway, I don't want to rave on, mate, I just.

Speaker 2 (50:16):
Want to say why the person has done it to
be scared of death? Is there or everyone to a
person isn't scared of death afterwards?

Speaker 20 (50:23):
No, none of them are scared of death once they
realize what it is near these experiences. There's thousands of
of them, indees, eh, documented documented in cases, Yeah, from
all walks of life.

Speaker 2 (50:38):
You know, where are you getting information from, Richard?

Speaker 20 (50:41):
I'll just jump on YouTube and go indie or anywhere, brilliant.

Speaker 2 (50:46):
Just jump on you and go indie. I to spare
for the world and the effect we get the invision
to jump on YouTube, you know, Wolfy Lush twenty three
past nine. How are you going? People near death? Exp
Variances Marcus. I'd want to travel back in time to

(51:12):
a specific event e g. Fire who killed the Bain family?
Who'd want to stand by and watch that? Goodness? You
go anywhere you go, There, you go to every street.
Ah love PAGs. Not the thing is, if you go

(51:34):
back in time, there'll be all sorts of other time
travelers going back in time too, wouldn't there It's well
known events. Yep, get in touch. My name is Marcus.
Welcome HDDLE twelve. We're talking time travel, very very interesting.

(51:54):
But why wouldn't it exist? And why only forwards not backwards? Marcus,
don't scoff at YouTube? I can confirm a few soon YouTube.
There are dozens of amazing, genuine interviews with regular people
who have died and have had life changing nds. Well,

(52:15):
it's hardly scientifically rigorous, Marcus. Ninety one days till Christmas
and ninety nine days will be coming another new year.
And Tamagotchi're coming back, because I think I thought tama
got you've already had their comeback time. They were those

(52:35):
virtual pets all the rage a while back. Not so
much anymore. Oh, eight hundred and eighty Tatty Hittel twelve,
Marcus an old Chinese proverb depressions when you look back
to the past anxieties, you look to the future and
pieces when you finally accept the present. Thank you, Mac Marks.

(52:59):
You won't know about spirits the light. You need to
read the book The Boy Who Saw True, The Diary
of a Clearvoyan boy in Victorian England. Thank you for that.
You're off to the meatwork slush. You're going to fat
you up in the field on the other side of
that gate, and then your toast. Marcus re Jammed estral traveling,

(53:22):
I had an out of body experience. I flowed up
to the cet and looked around the room in amazement,
and whirlled myself back into my body. It was confirmation
to me that there is more than the physical world.
It's a shame that people are not aware of their
spiritual potential, because I think everybody could probably do with
enough practice. Do people really want to go look on

(53:44):
the roof and look down on themselves? I mean that
to me is not a great thrill. Actually, there's more
exciting than things to do with your time. Get in touch,
be a part of it. Oh eight hundred eighty eighty

(54:06):
detect good evening. Andrew it's Marcus. Welcome Andrew.

Speaker 3 (54:11):
Marcus.

Speaker 27 (54:13):
You know there's already time travel happening.

Speaker 2 (54:17):
Well, people talk about with a theory of relativity and
you fly fast enough, I guess. But it's a microscopic,
isn't it.

Speaker 27 (54:25):
No, I'm talking about real time travel because of the
weird about Alice Telescope. Some of the pictures that it's taken,
they go back billions of life, and so you're actually
looking back into the future.

Speaker 16 (54:43):
What was there.

Speaker 27 (54:46):
Ynths ago?

Speaker 2 (54:47):
Yeah, well, even even if we look at the stars,
we see the stars that are acting from glowing from
thousands of years ago.

Speaker 27 (54:58):
Even the light eight minutes getting from the sun to here.
But I always thought we were down south last year
at Milford Milford Sound. My God was telling us how
there was Milford Sound was solid ice right to the
bottom and miles up in the nearly to the top

(55:23):
of the mountains. You can see see that they're all
smooth talk. I just thought it'd be amazing to be
able to sit there above Melford Sound and clicked back
a thousand years at a time to see what it
changed over the years, you know, to get back to
that time when it was all solid ice.

Speaker 2 (55:43):
That's been amazing the South at that age of glaciation
where they're just glaciers everywhere.

Speaker 3 (55:48):
Yeah, exactly.

Speaker 2 (55:51):
I've never really thought of Milford sounds like that, but
I guess it's glacier. Of course.

Speaker 27 (55:56):
Is if you look at the mountains, the guy pointed out,
you can see where the ice went up to. They're
all smooth and round the bit it was sticking out
the top for all sag its.

Speaker 2 (56:07):
Yeah, it's a good point. It's amazing. Moffit sound, isn't
it always impressive?

Speaker 27 (56:12):
Oh I'm fantastic all those mate, Yeah.

Speaker 2 (56:16):
You seet it nice to hear from here. Andrew, thank you,
good evening, Graham as Marcus welcome, Hello, greetings.

Speaker 23 (56:23):
Yeah, greeting from self Meine. I thought the idean to
you're a stuston on time travel or going back to
some time from a point of view of the general relativity.
You know, I used to be in a foremost professionals
thrown at the severity. You know, when you're looking in space,

(56:44):
you looking into space back into time. At three hundred
thousand to Thomas the Higgins from the Earth the moon
one point another four hundred and ninety eight seconds. That
eat quick three minutes, we'll get you from the Earth
of the Sun, and another friction and a half house
more than that will get you to the orbit of
Pluto half pervis nine plant. Another four and a half

(57:08):
years will get you to the nearness Naked Eye star
because of the centaur i near the southern cross. Another
two and a half million more years will get to
the Andromeda galaxy. So the food you look back into space,
well distances look back in the space. The furd you
look back into time. So there's the cosmos is a
time machine. From the point of view of general relativity.

(57:31):
I thought it just throws them there.

Speaker 2 (57:32):
I'll exclude the real world stuff. I'll excuse you talk
about the planet Pluto, but we can handle that.

Speaker 3 (57:38):
Oh well, a.

Speaker 23 (57:39):
Planet toid now it's been demoted hence.

Speaker 28 (57:41):
And your day and your day was a planet grahad
on oh way by the way back long ago as
sobs you'll say, yeah, it just didn't quite meet all
the orbital characteristics of a planet.

Speaker 23 (57:56):
It's now a planet toid. And when a person gets
demotive and status for the new word in the lexicon,
as you have been plutoed, that where it comes from.
That's where the phrase comes from.

Speaker 2 (58:09):
I've never heard it.

Speaker 3 (58:11):
Oh you have.

Speaker 23 (58:12):
Now you got two deals for the price of one.

Speaker 2 (58:15):
I've always heard that's all free.

Speaker 23 (58:17):
One.

Speaker 2 (58:17):
You've been canceled.

Speaker 23 (58:20):
Oh you have been catsy, you've been demoted. Pluto still exists,
but it's status as a planet has been taken back.
But it's now a plan of TOID And that was
all the Will's top as through politicians, shall we say,
decided that it was unpopular.

Speaker 2 (58:40):
But will there will there be life on other planets?

Speaker 23 (58:44):
Graham, I'm quite optimistic. We haven't struck anything yet, but.

Speaker 2 (58:50):
You know, our lifetime.

Speaker 29 (58:53):
Why not?

Speaker 7 (58:54):
Why not?

Speaker 29 (58:54):
Why not?

Speaker 23 (58:56):
Well, they were saying that when I was at the
high school, when it didn't happen, But then they said
there's going to be nuclear again in the nineteen sixty
two when I was at primary school and that didn't happen.
Thank goodness, the giving miss a crisis and recurring Yes, yeah, nope,
you're going. I'm quite hopeful. I'd like to think that
we are a little planet. This we are a member

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of the episode factor of the Galactic Club or Federation.
I'm a bit of a tricky and I'm quietly positive.
I can't prove that it's life out there, and I
can't prove there isn't the main I gonna bother each way,
but I'm quitely hopeful, HOPEU they's all true. This nicer
than yes.

Speaker 2 (59:40):
I like how people say that a bit of a tricky,
which means very huge tricky. I like that, Gray, and
thank you. Seventeen to ten George Marcus evening, Welcome.

Speaker 19 (59:50):
Hi.

Speaker 11 (59:51):
We are having a fun night tonight, are we hello?

Speaker 2 (59:56):
You can you can be the judge of that?

Speaker 11 (59:59):
Yeah, Well, I just want.

Speaker 19 (01:00:00):
To segue with you.

Speaker 11 (01:00:01):
I'm not quite sure whether you are a wolf for
one of these black of white dog thought, you're a
mutt or you know what the politician called a ruffian,
which means that you're in the club of all those
people that need to exist. But anyway, traveling, you had
an advertisant there a minute ago, travel wise holidays, and

(01:00:23):
it wants to segues right into what I want to say.
Imagine time travel does exist in a period of time
now when you can time travel, and therefore it's become
a tourist industry. You're following me, which.

Speaker 2 (01:00:39):
It will be because if someone's got someone events that
they want to make money out of it won't they.

Speaker 11 (01:00:43):
So you've got cruise liners who take you back in history.
They can't take you forwards because it never happened. They
can only take you backwards in history.

Speaker 2 (01:00:52):
I mean, they can't take you forward because they don't
know what's happened. You can't promote it, right, it hasn't happened.

Speaker 11 (01:01:00):
You can't go somewhere that hasn't happened.

Speaker 2 (01:01:04):
Okay, well you can. You can go to the future.
But yeah, okay, but you won't know what you're sad
to see. Well, you don't know, you have to You
wouldn't know until you get there, would you.

Speaker 11 (01:01:12):
Well, that's right. Therefore, if it hasn't happened yet, the
future hasn't occurred, you can't go into it, but you
can go backwards.

Speaker 2 (01:01:21):
Image of people there waiting for something to happen, won't they.

Speaker 11 (01:01:26):
Yeah, well you'd have to watch it be like you know,
always have the teas. They fly faster and faster in
the airplane until you break the sound barrier. And if
you could stop, you can hear yourself coming in the plane.
Here the sound of your plane arriving to where you are. Well,

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imagine if your plane was going faster than the speed
of light and you stopped, you could actually see your
plane arrived. But if we go into time travel and
we're going into cruise mode, imagine if you could have
the tourist industry that could take you anywhere you wanted,
So you could go back into the ording of the
Pyramids and watch them building it.

Speaker 2 (01:02:08):
But the thing is, when you go back there, you
go back to the crucifixion.

Speaker 11 (01:02:13):
Yeah, but when you go back there, because you're from
the future, they can't see you. You can see them
because it's existed.

Speaker 2 (01:02:21):
Why are you invisible if you go back in time.

Speaker 11 (01:02:24):
Because you haven't happened yet. You don't exist yet, You're
not there yet. You're only there in the future. You're
not there in the past. Am too deep for you,
so you can't be seen by the present people in
the past. Well then it's because you don't exist yet.

Speaker 2 (01:02:45):
Then how are you going to how are you going
to experience it?

Speaker 11 (01:02:48):
Well, you see them because they've already existed, just like
you pick up a skull out of an old grave
and that person is there. So you can go back
in the past and see things happening. So you can
have cruises going to the building of the Pyramids to
maybe go and watch the Battle of Waterloom. You could
have the beheading of the Charles the first. You know,

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you could have all sorts of cruises to all sorts
of happenings in the past, and people paw fortune to
go and see these things. And when they come back,
they go history was right or history was wrong.

Speaker 2 (01:03:23):
They move first, hang on, hang on, yep, George. They
won't be able to see it because they can't physically
go past because you say they didn't exist.

Speaker 11 (01:03:32):
Then no, but you traveling backwards can see the past,
but people in the past can't see you.

Speaker 30 (01:03:42):
You with me.

Speaker 2 (01:03:42):
So are you saying that the Crucifixion there is all
sorts of people that were No, no, no, no.

Speaker 11 (01:03:47):
I'm saying that if you are able to travel into
the past in the cruise ship it's time travel cruise ship,
cruise liner, you could watch things happen, but they can't
see you because you don't exist yet.

Speaker 2 (01:04:04):
Okay, thank you, George. Hello Julian, it's Marcus. Welcome Marcus.

Speaker 31 (01:04:12):
Time travel things fascinating. But I have one question. So
you choose to go back, say a hundred years, Assume
that you like I'm sitting in bed at the moment.
And I say, right, I want to go back one
hundred years. But what one hundred years ago if there
was a tree where my bed is, do you arrive beside.

Speaker 27 (01:04:37):
The tree in the tree?

Speaker 31 (01:04:40):
Because assume when you try and travel you stay in
the same space you're in there.

Speaker 2 (01:04:45):
That's unclear, but I would imagine it would be you'd
put the machine, your time travel machine, somewhere, you'd push it,
you'd trust the dial, and you would you and the
machine would go to that spot, that exact spot one
hundred say, it'd be in the tree.

Speaker 31 (01:04:56):
I guess anyway, it's certainly gonna be much good to anybody.

Speaker 22 (01:05:01):
Is it?

Speaker 2 (01:05:01):
Which makes it seem which makes it seem unachievable, doesn't it?

Speaker 3 (01:05:06):
Yeah?

Speaker 31 (01:05:06):
And so you said, right, I'll go back a thousand years,
But a thousand years ago you're in the middle of
a volcano with love all around you. That's not going
to be much good either, you know, it.

Speaker 2 (01:05:17):
Said it's going to be funnel successful. You might go
back and just perish there. So I think, because you
might be in the middle of a quarried mountain.

Speaker 31 (01:05:27):
If anybody's going to invent time travel, they need to
invent something that is going to let you change directions
so you don't land in the middle of a volcano.

Speaker 2 (01:05:39):
You probably send a time traveling drone back first to
film what's going on?

Speaker 31 (01:05:46):
The mind boggles enjoying the show, Margat's great.

Speaker 2 (01:05:49):
Thank you, Bye bye, Julian amos Oh, that's great to
get on so soon.

Speaker 32 (01:05:55):
I thought I would have a longer way, But how
is it to market?

Speaker 16 (01:05:58):
It's great, I can.

Speaker 2 (01:05:59):
I can give you a longer wait if you want,
but I thought i'd get you in before the news.
How does that sound all right?

Speaker 32 (01:06:03):
So I'm going to be quick, but that's just it.
Can I be a contrarian and say there isn't time travel?
And what we have here is we live in a
dome and there's time inside our realm, but outside of that,
you've got an internal realm. And it's like the Book
of Enoch explains that I suppose the best for different
levels and dimensions and heavens, and I don't know how

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it all works, but I think our soul and our
spirit and our dreams can go forward and back in time.
So it's a very real thing because we experience it
in those ways, But can we actually do it well?
Would it be more like a dream or a vision?
And then how do you what's the fine line between
those two things?

Speaker 18 (01:06:46):
You see?

Speaker 32 (01:06:47):
But this topic, you should have this every night.

Speaker 10 (01:06:51):
Anyway.

Speaker 15 (01:06:53):
There's so much more that could be said.

Speaker 2 (01:06:56):
I think we I think we are stuck on the
conventional idea of time travel, which is a time machine
and you physically going back in time, and of course
none of that is bees any relation to anything that
we've experienced.

Speaker 32 (01:07:13):
Yeah, well that's the thing.

Speaker 25 (01:07:15):
I think.

Speaker 12 (01:07:16):
What if you flew out one of these.

Speaker 32 (01:07:18):
Portholes that the Book of Unot talks about, and you
ended up outside of the dimension some by chance, and
then time would stop and if you imagine to get
back in before you perished out there, would time stand
still here while you're out there, or would it continue
on while you're out there faster or slower?

Speaker 2 (01:07:37):
You know, it's just what happens the other time.

Speaker 32 (01:07:41):
Yeah, And that's why you know those things are flying
into the Bermuda Triangle or flowing across the Atlantic and
then coming back into nineteen forty four, and you think
that might be possible, and you know, a ship flying
forty years in a leap, or you know, a whole
military base. You know, there's all those great movies that
have all these different things going.

Speaker 2 (01:08:00):
I've got to say that the buta triangle has gone quiet. Okay,
never hear about it.

Speaker 9 (01:08:08):
Well, that's the censorships kicking in.

Speaker 10 (01:08:10):
Right.

Speaker 32 (01:08:13):
You gotta go look up in the sky. You probably
see your own things happening everywhere now at the moment,
and you know, and there is a creator trying to
get in touch with us, and the angels are real.
So that's that's how I've got to remember all that
going on. So I'm in a different I'm a bit
of a contrarian. But you've got to have all viewpoints, right.

Speaker 2 (01:08:32):
I don't really know what a contrarian is.

Speaker 32 (01:08:35):
I don't believe there's time travel. I don't think you
can do it.

Speaker 2 (01:08:38):
No, what's the contrarian.

Speaker 32 (01:08:40):
Someone who doesn't agree a contrary view point?

Speaker 2 (01:08:48):
That makes sense kind of although I think there's been
a variety of opinions tonight. But I'm hearing you we
live in a dome, Get to good eat. The only
time I see you on living in a dome is
in the Simpsons movie They Live in a Dome. I
think they did. Peter Marcus, Welcome.

Speaker 15 (01:09:10):
Peter Margus.

Speaker 2 (01:09:11):
Hey, yah, good, thanks Peter.

Speaker 33 (01:09:13):
I was thinking, like you were talking about time trail
or we're going on the house, was but to go
back and look into the past, what come first?

Speaker 9 (01:09:26):
The chicken or the egg?

Speaker 2 (01:09:30):
Is it where you want to go back and find?

Speaker 10 (01:09:32):
Well, that's that.

Speaker 34 (01:09:34):
Everyone's talking about what come first? The chicken on the egg?
So you've got to have an need for of chicken.

Speaker 15 (01:09:40):
I suppose.

Speaker 2 (01:09:43):
It'd be hard to pinpoint the time to find that though,
wouldn't it.

Speaker 34 (01:09:47):
Yeah, exactly, Yeah, and it's one of those things. Yeah,
and you'd have to have rooster to make the egg.

Speaker 2 (01:09:56):
I suppose I'm not time preffering it. That seems a
bit in content, that seems a bit insignificant to time
travel back for.

Speaker 15 (01:10:05):
So you'd go forwards?

Speaker 34 (01:10:08):
Yeah, yeah, I wouldn't.

Speaker 3 (01:10:09):
I wouldn't.

Speaker 34 (01:10:09):
There wouldn't be my main mission to do it.

Speaker 2 (01:10:14):
We would one of those we would be your main mission.

Speaker 16 (01:10:18):
To go back. Yeah, I'm all right.

Speaker 2 (01:10:27):
Do many people have? I think when it comes with
there's not much demand for time tra I couldn't be
bothered with it, it would be my take. Roger Marcus welcome,
Hi Roger, Hi, Roger, Yeah, you can you hear me, Okay,

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got your copy.

Speaker 3 (01:10:52):
That's a copy Roger over Y's Roger.

Speaker 29 (01:10:57):
You know, very usual treat.

Speaker 10 (01:11:02):
Ye.

Speaker 29 (01:11:04):
So what what was going to talk about was, you know,
I'm a truck driver and at times I have a
couple of food places that I go to to pick
up food if I have got anything with me. But
the other week I thought I was going through town
and I thought, you know what, these little places are
struggling in that, so I thought I'd go somewhere different. Well,

(01:11:28):
I try to get to five different places, and I
couldn't because there was either a bus stop park right
out in the front of them, or yellow lines right wrong.
There was nowhere to park. So I don't even know
how these places exist because the cars parked around the area,
and that even though I'm I'm a truck, which is big,

(01:11:52):
but even if I was in the utual car or whatever,
there was still nowhere for you to park. He had
to park a long, long way away and walk to
the food park. I just find that for that.

Speaker 2 (01:12:04):
How big is your truck?

Speaker 29 (01:12:07):
It's a it's a seven tonner, so it is a
single rare axe all but it's quite long. It's a tank.
It okay, So I just yeah, it was like, you
know these food places. I tried five different ones, going
going from one suburb to another, and I'd pull up

(01:12:28):
and there's a bus stop there and yellow lines along
from it, and it's like, oh, okay, So I don't
know how that exists because it must be up and awkward.

Speaker 2 (01:12:41):
We haven't told much about that tonight.

Speaker 29 (01:12:44):
No, that's why I thought i'd bring it up, because
I heard about the time traveling that and then you
said it was just an open conversation.

Speaker 2 (01:12:50):
Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, what what you? I was curious
how what food you were going to try?

Speaker 29 (01:12:58):
I kind of I am trying to eat con I mean,
I as you know, I could break. We have good food,
I'll just go for a standard. I like a good
hand salad beeg sealad sandwich. Sometimes, like the places I

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go to one place in particular, they have really good
fried chicken, so I'll get a chicken breast. They'll have
a bacon, an egg and beetroot sandwich, and maybe you
can a zero coke or something like that.

Speaker 2 (01:13:32):
Wow, you'd have fried chicken and a zero coke.

Speaker 29 (01:13:37):
Yeah, it depends because normally I have a cup of
tea with me. I won't drink tea all day. And
you know, I'm just driving back now for a ruse
or I've got a cup of tea with me, and
my travel munt goes everywhere, even when I'm playing. Now,
I did a gig last Sunday. We played at Fat Eddie.

(01:13:57):
I think we got something like two hundred and thirty
people in there on Sunday afternoon. Yeah. I had a
glass of water and I had a cup of tea
there as well.

Speaker 2 (01:14:07):
What were you playing at first? What were you playing? Standards?

Speaker 19 (01:14:12):
No?

Speaker 29 (01:14:12):
No, no, no, we did an Amy white House show.
It was really good. It was it was good to
Ben went really well. There was so many people and
just your dancing and having a good time. It was
a great show.

Speaker 24 (01:14:25):
And you with your.

Speaker 29 (01:14:28):
I'm there with the captain. I didn't have a beer later,
but yeah, capiti and a glass of water and whatever.
But I do it at rehearsals too, you know. And
then in the truck I have a treble mug.

Speaker 2 (01:14:38):
And then we're always where are these shops? You can't
get a park outside?

Speaker 29 (01:14:44):
Okay?

Speaker 13 (01:14:45):
So h.

Speaker 29 (01:14:47):
Now you got me going because it's a couple of
weeks ago. Uh, Stamill Road. I think there was a
takeaway place or think, uh, Hereford Street, maybe down the
other end of Hereford Street. I'm just trying to think.

Speaker 2 (01:15:10):
Because they probably going for the truck driving market, you
were your crowd.

Speaker 29 (01:15:15):
Well possibly not, but even so, I mean, if you're
just driving in your car and you've got your kids
there and it's the holidays and they you know, you
want to say, well let's go stop and get a
file or whatever, you know, it's just I mean, I
could be completely wrong, but I just I just thought
it was bizarre that it was these bus stops are
right outside the food bars and.

Speaker 2 (01:15:38):
All these cafes have gone broke because people are working
from home.

Speaker 6 (01:15:43):
Yeah.

Speaker 29 (01:15:44):
How much truth do you think there is to that?

Speaker 2 (01:15:46):
Very little?

Speaker 11 (01:15:48):
Yeah?

Speaker 29 (01:15:50):
See years ago? Years ago, Yeah, okay, when Price Water
four side Price Waterhouse were on the corner of Arma
and Colombo Street and there was a coffee bar underneath there,
and it was that it was coming up for sale

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and I was actually thinking about buying it, and so
what I was thinking of doing was what it was
like doing a coffee run through the floors of the
building with food and coffee, so people pre order and
then have people pre ordering coffee so that and just
have it outside and when they pull up, just cand

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it to them.

Speaker 2 (01:16:34):
Makes sense.

Speaker 29 (01:16:36):
Yeah, But then I think the place across or I
was called was it thank saying God, it's Friday or
something Fridays or something like that. So then I got
one that that was up for major I don't know
renovations in that and the footpaths would be closed, so
there was a no go area.

Speaker 2 (01:16:58):
I thought that risk that do you wish you'd done it?

Speaker 29 (01:17:02):
No, because the place went through was even then there
and it it didn't work because of that exact reason.
People couldn't get to him and back then, I don't
think because these days, if there's a situation where roading
is involved in a close it's a footpath whatever, you
can actually find compensation so that they will actually pay

(01:17:25):
you whatever. If you can prove a loss of income,
they'll actually pay you for it.

Speaker 3 (01:17:33):
Okay.

Speaker 29 (01:17:35):
Yeah, So that was that was my thoughts tonight.

Speaker 2 (01:17:39):
Very good Roger Isser. I appreciate that greatly. Thank you, Joseph.
It's Marcus.

Speaker 24 (01:17:43):
Hello, good evening, Marcus. Imagine being have to jump back
Penny his time for Lash of Georgia by for dollar.

Speaker 2 (01:17:52):
Well, yes, people see that. It seems to be the
thing that most people want to go to. Was Georgie pie.

Speaker 24 (01:17:57):
Yes, yeah, I want to talk about the Grandfather there.
But I had another thought before I mentioned that they're
going to mention the breed been in your like case,
if we wanted to go to the path. There's another issue,
and that moves around the sun. If you were to
jump back six months or forwards, you would end up
on the other side of the Sun where the Earth

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current is, and you find yourself stranded than space.

Speaker 2 (01:18:25):
It also might be the middle of the night.

Speaker 24 (01:18:30):
I could be if you went twenty four hours.

Speaker 23 (01:18:32):
Yep.

Speaker 24 (01:18:33):
But anyway, the Grandfather.

Speaker 2 (01:18:37):
Joseph is get your photo, but better it's not great.
It sounds like you're on a on a void call.

Speaker 24 (01:18:43):
I'm down at the court. So the interference of the
crane that's in front of me, which port by turning around,
see if I get a bit of signal.

Speaker 2 (01:18:53):
Are you driving? Are you operating a crane?

Speaker 10 (01:18:56):
No?

Speaker 24 (01:18:56):
No, no, I'm at the court waiting for my track
be loads and it's just loaded.

Speaker 2 (01:19:01):
Actually okay, great, thank you.

Speaker 3 (01:19:03):
I'm moving.

Speaker 24 (01:19:04):
I'm bloken leaving shipping containers.

Speaker 2 (01:19:06):
Sure, okay, that sounds better actually, but thank you.

Speaker 24 (01:19:09):
Okay, Yeah, the craying has just driven away, so that's
probably it. Okay, grandfather paradox. Do you know the basic
outline of the story for the grandfather paradox?

Speaker 2 (01:19:20):
You go back in time when you kill your grandfather.

Speaker 24 (01:19:24):
I actually don't think the story actually said that he's
the grandfather, but maybe anyway to grandfather's I think the
basic story that starts in the past, the guy meets
a woman and they have a child together, and Okay,
either he gets killed or died for whatever it was,
this child goes up as their own child, and this

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being grandchild of the first man, goes back in time
I guess, either to find out what happened or to
kill his grandfather. But of course he doesn't find his grandfather,
and he meets this woman who turns out to the
NB his mother, so he ends up with his own grandfather. Now,

(01:20:05):
the problem the story is there is no beginning. It's
a loop, and because there is no beginning, it's an
actually impossible story. You've got to have a beginning.

Speaker 2 (01:20:18):
Does he have romantic attachment with his grandmother?

Speaker 24 (01:20:22):
Yep, but he doesn't know it's his grandmother.

Speaker 2 (01:20:25):
Oh, you want to you don't. You don't want if
your time, if your time traveling, you don't want any
romantic relationships with anyone.

Speaker 11 (01:20:32):
Yep.

Speaker 24 (01:20:33):
But you know that's how he ends up Piece's own grandfather.
And because it's a loop with no actual beginning is
what makes it actually impossible. You can't have a loop
through time or anything actually cause an effect with no
first cause it doesn't.

Speaker 2 (01:20:55):
I thought it was if you go back in time
and you kill your grandfather, which means you can't exist,
because if your grandfather wasn't exist, you couldn't exist.

Speaker 24 (01:21:03):
That would be a different story. But that's not the
story from the grandfather howadox, it turns out that you
are your own grandfather. That's the story of your grandfather paradox.
But that's another variation of a different story. Yeah, that
wouldtop you existing.

Speaker 2 (01:21:16):
Well, that's what a quote. That's what everything I've seen
about the grandfather paradox quotes about Sessa the grandfather.

Speaker 24 (01:21:22):
But that's yeah, yeah, anyway, it doesn't work.

Speaker 2 (01:21:29):
Because it's a loop. Yes, why does that prevent it
from being true.

Speaker 24 (01:21:38):
Because there's no starting point?

Speaker 2 (01:21:44):
H what about before that time?

Speaker 7 (01:21:49):
Well, it's got to.

Speaker 24 (01:21:50):
Start from somewhere because you you've got you know, you've
got a grandfather, and he was his own grandfather. Who
was the great grandfather doesn't exist?

Speaker 2 (01:22:03):
Okay, okay, you'd both been separate worlds going round and
around twenty past ten. Thank you. A couple of texts.
Couple of good texts. Hi, Marcus, I feel I've just

(01:22:26):
completed a shift on the psychiatric ward listening tonight. What
a load of dribble. I know you won't read this out,
cheers Christine. Goodness Marks. I want to go back to
the past on the cruise ship and punch George in
the face for you. He won't be to see me.

(01:22:48):
I'm going to b'its sick of that cruise ship going
back and don't know what he was on about. This
is interesting, this one, Marcus a tongue. In perspective of time,
our ancestors, who have walked this earth before us, are
actually ahead of us, while we the present generation, follow behind,
meaning we are living in their past while they are

(01:23:10):
in essence in our future. In this sense, looking to
our ancestors time is akin to gazing into the future,
rather than merely revisiting the past. Therefore, exploring our heritage
is a backward journey, not into the past, but rather forward. Marcus.
I think the biggest consider that story is that Pete
was with his own grandmother. Yeah, that's time crowd. That's

(01:23:33):
why you want to just not have relations with anyone
that you're in your time traveling only into trouble. Although
there's wormholes and there's different kind of paths. Evening, Ja, Marcus,
Good evening.

Speaker 18 (01:23:50):
Evening, Marcus mape Hey, good Jay, My god, mate, I'm
feeling for you here to know. Look, mate, it comes
back to what you say about that if we own
do we own grand partner of place and wimbles? That's
all l wouldn't It comes back to the armstem very
how can anything something else.

Speaker 10 (01:24:08):
That's not playing it in the first place? Mate, No scientists, but.

Speaker 2 (01:24:13):
It's all, well you're not a scientist yet, is what
I always say with you guys.

Speaker 10 (01:24:17):
Well yeah, mate, mate.

Speaker 18 (01:24:19):
Anyway, I'm not here to talk about that, but it
made sense what you said to me about there. How
can you exist about if you or your grandfather? So
but anyway, I'm here talking about a little bit about
to a little bit off topic. I'm being frustrated and
listening to everyone. I'm watching all these experts about all
black straight with my man, and I know everyone's getting
a bit upstair with it and put off of it.

(01:24:40):
But here's the thing, man. You know they're looking for
a number ten, right, a decent number ten to stare
the team around.

Speaker 2 (01:24:49):
Well, yeah, people don't like David mackenzie right right.

Speaker 18 (01:24:54):
There, Brother guy is a brilliant football. The problem is
with all his factors stuff and when he's passes and
that don't go to hand. He's a little bit too
put it a little bit two of an airbulood player.
What you need is a generic one, and we've had
one for the last two, if not three seasons. Maybe
he's got three minutes in that Baslow Test match. I
don't think he touched the ball, but it's fine for

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the Blues and for Augurne Harry Plumber.

Speaker 3 (01:25:19):
Mate, here we go.

Speaker 10 (01:25:21):
You've got the guy's generic, right.

Speaker 2 (01:25:25):
Me about Janeeric? What averon? That means?

Speaker 11 (01:25:27):
Well?

Speaker 10 (01:25:28):
What the guy's got a good kicking Jame right? Game management? Right? Yeah,
he ain't the flashy player lot mackenzie is, but he's
a generic flyther right, does the basics.

Speaker 18 (01:25:38):
Put check some into corners? Does all the things that
you need and to do. We've got to other players
out in the centers both Let all he's got to
do is get the ball to them or kick the
ball into the corners. Let the forwards do everything. I
don't know how he hasn't got the knot.

Speaker 12 (01:25:54):
It's crazy.

Speaker 18 (01:25:55):
When I played the game for years, man, it's we're
watching what's the breakdown? And stop the Marlins mentioned his
name mate, not.

Speaker 10 (01:26:05):
Bright the hell wrong. I don't want to bring that
Richie Munga. He's gone.

Speaker 2 (01:26:10):
He's John's gone Burger exactly. Say he's gone Burger.

Speaker 10 (01:26:18):
Well, you know he's gone overseas. He's a bit older.

Speaker 2 (01:26:20):
Now you make it'sh gon Burger, You go Burger families.
Their families get there and say they got to gotta
make money. We're gonna go to Japan for a couple
of years to make money. That's what happens.

Speaker 10 (01:26:32):
Well, and that's fair enough, that's fair enough.

Speaker 18 (01:26:34):
I do not.

Speaker 10 (01:26:34):
My grand said, amened, Well, they're not European football players
in Marcus. They don't make money.

Speaker 18 (01:26:44):
Lot those shows do.

Speaker 2 (01:26:45):
So, you know, right, and they've gotta they gotta, I
mean the otherwise, injuries for the next forty years of
their life.

Speaker 23 (01:26:50):
Okay, that's right.

Speaker 18 (01:26:51):
How much how much stuff is rugby, rugby league and
rugby union, but then football, so let's be honesty.

Speaker 2 (01:26:58):
They're not luck in that guy Harland, he seems to
be badly behaved.

Speaker 10 (01:27:04):
Where who's his hound going?

Speaker 2 (01:27:07):
He's in the English Premiership there, he's a guy at
the top.

Speaker 10 (01:27:09):
Knot is that the European guy?

Speaker 2 (01:27:13):
Yeah, blondeed like a Dane or something. He's man city is. Yeah,
but he's been throwing balls at people, cowards, movies, been misbehaving.
It's gone to his head.

Speaker 10 (01:27:23):
Yeah yeah, Well, you know, no strides are on pretty
much in the game. It's what what a rugby league
players are on in a season the game.

Speaker 2 (01:27:32):
Here's a question for you, what what what were you?
What colored? What colored Jews did you wear when you played?

Speaker 10 (01:27:40):
Well, predominantly more darker colns here on blues blacks.

Speaker 2 (01:27:46):
Who'd you play for?

Speaker 10 (01:27:48):
Bo played all up and down the country, made down
the South and a lot of clubs.

Speaker 2 (01:27:54):
You're playing Southland?

Speaker 10 (01:27:56):
Yeah many years ago?

Speaker 2 (01:27:57):
Well so not the red and White of Bluff. You
didn't play for the Bluff.

Speaker 10 (01:28:03):
Did you? I played for the Green and white Riverton.

Speaker 2 (01:28:06):
I mean Dudy rivers and ah, well goodness anyway, So
this guy Scott Robertson, right, he's easy to like because
he seems to be enjoying himself. You know, he's always
there coaching. The Crusader's happy face, good at talking to me,
and he likes as players, knows one of them is
a bit down, takes some asides, says, what's happening is
the baby crying at night? You know the drill as

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sort of a people's men. How do you reckon? He's
going you reckon? He's hating it.

Speaker 10 (01:28:33):
Everybody's they expected big things on him, right right, and
you're going to remember he's never really coached internationally.

Speaker 2 (01:28:42):
Coach, he's coached international. He's coached internationally internationally now just
not very well now now.

Speaker 18 (01:28:48):
But but he's you're going to give him a bit
of time. And he's the thing I think he's bringing
different things to the table. Is unearthed, water tight.

Speaker 2 (01:29:00):
I like the way he looks. I like that rangey
look at him.

Speaker 10 (01:29:03):
Oh, just just the way to go and plays.

Speaker 2 (01:29:07):
So when's the last time we saw a tall unit
like that Lee unit. He's strongly extraordinary.

Speaker 10 (01:29:13):
Yeah, yeah, you'd probably ask you'll probably remember anything like
that would probably be maybe Tane Randall.

Speaker 2 (01:29:20):
You what six inches on Tayne?

Speaker 10 (01:29:24):
Oh yeah, but you know it's a similar type of
similar type of player, similar type of players. He's in
a little bit more uh the ball running and power
about him, but Tyne had a little bit more rugby smarts.
But he will get that. He's one a young.

Speaker 2 (01:29:38):
So Scott Robertson, is he enjoying it or is his
spirits gone?

Speaker 9 (01:29:43):
No?

Speaker 10 (01:29:44):
No, you can tell right the way he talks in
his interviews, mate, And everyone was saying that, oh he
seems too candid and like he doesn't care. No, that's
absolute ball.

Speaker 2 (01:29:53):
I think he cares. I just don't want to see
the guy lose his love of the game because he's
a confidence player.

Speaker 10 (01:29:59):
No rest of the problem.

Speaker 18 (01:30:00):
As soon as you've become an all Backs coach, there
isn't it, Marcus, mate, You know the expectation because you're
Black spin the all Black Sea, we are.

Speaker 2 (01:30:09):
Ill go Hold on there, Joe, I got to go
to headline, sorry, Mam Donald to do this time drivel
and there are the Scott Robinson. I got us on
a scale of one to forty. My interest in this
rugby test is about twelve. I won't be watching it.
I don't know why. I just kind of there hasn't
been a great rugby championship this year. Anyway, back to you, Jay,

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was this something you wanted to kind of end off with?

Speaker 10 (01:30:37):
Ah? Yeah, I mean I hear what you're saying. You
don't remember the All Blacks two right now. They're only
a bit of a rebuilding play, isn't it.

Speaker 18 (01:30:43):
But I just hope that Rays has got the full side.
I mean, Harry plumbers in the squad, he got three minutes,
which is was per fetish. I mean, but we didn't
help ourselves so far this year, our second halvest man
upon it's been well put them in the word abominal,
you know, and that's got a bid.

Speaker 2 (01:31:03):
And we're dirty players.

Speaker 10 (01:31:05):
Well well everyone knows, mate.

Speaker 2 (01:31:09):
Or then we're not very good at how come we're
the only ones to get caught.

Speaker 10 (01:31:12):
Both many years ago we were good at it. This
is everything that we're going to fine tuning that part
of the food, the mongol part of the game. It's
story story. You just said, we're not quite as good
as as we once were. But again what you're saying,
it has been little but twenty eight seven put Oh
my god, the But I'll be out along and I'll

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say this way. I think.

Speaker 2 (01:31:37):
It doesn't even matter the other ninth best team in
the world. It doesn't mean anything.

Speaker 18 (01:31:41):
It will means something for us favorite.

Speaker 2 (01:31:43):
No, no, god, I'd rather give the Aussies the joy
of winning one. Oh, come on, serious means nothing, means
nothing to us. It's been underwhelming from go to woe,
silly yellow cards, drop passes, terrible under the high ball. No,
it's been through the watch.

Speaker 18 (01:32:05):
But not just my You don't remember we didn't lose
those tests by too much in South Africa. And I
think you'll agree with me. And I'll say this, there
were some pretty dubious appreciating and that.

Speaker 2 (01:32:15):
You play to the whistle. You can't come back and
say we were the better tea. But it's just the
decision to win our way. No, what's what's the captain doing?
Why is he not out? And about more?

Speaker 18 (01:32:26):
But we didn't lose by much money.

Speaker 10 (01:32:31):
Just second half.

Speaker 2 (01:32:33):
I never thought would be. I never thought we would
become the country that says things like we didn't lose
by much makes us sound pathetic.

Speaker 10 (01:32:39):
But everyone else is getting a lot better now, ain't
they Yeah, I see everything too. We don't quite have
the seat the star players that we once said, you know,
we don't have them the cause we don't have the cards.
We don't had then news, we don't have the hew
it's all those cars.

Speaker 2 (01:32:55):
How he's more memorable for jumping. He was a poor
loser jumped on all those cars when we lost.

Speaker 10 (01:33:01):
The Will of forty nine trills or something like that.
He's pretty good winner. But anyway, anyway, he is the
thing mother other than Ardie Sabier, maybe Will Jordans. Do
we have any what you call superstar players? Maybe Barden Merriton,

(01:33:21):
maybe Damian McKenzie and on a good day, but Nan
his christ really too, Will Jordan Ardi starb that's really
about it.

Speaker 2 (01:33:28):
Did your Riverton team have any superstar players?

Speaker 16 (01:33:32):
Sorry?

Speaker 10 (01:33:32):
What was on on it?

Speaker 2 (01:33:33):
Did your Riverton team have any superstar players?

Speaker 10 (01:33:38):
We're south and buddy, what year was this? Oh? Early
two thousands?

Speaker 2 (01:33:46):
Oh, good to hear from you, Jay twenty five to eleven.
Time travel see time t talking about Riverton. We have
no evidence that life has a beginning or any of
these are all constructs of the mind, like time free
good texts, Marcus, I think you'll find early in Harland

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was born in Leeds, Yorkshire, not Norway's father was a
Norwegian though, who played for Leeds. I haven't quite reed
out the story. I seen not a comment on Facebook,
people saying they don't like him at all. Marcus, my neighbor,
returned Yester after enjoying the last year in junior on
a piano cruise. It took the pass to raise the

(01:34:35):
ticket money and because the trip is passed sense too.
The present time is like the future people consider about
Pete and his grandmother. A lot of people talk about
daylight savings been time travel. It's not time travel. It's

(01:34:57):
just annoying. Although I prefer this go round to the
other one time travel. That's the topic for tonight. Very good.
Some people don't like it when we get into a
philosophical realm. I don't quite know why they feel threatened

(01:35:21):
or triggered. There's breaking news. I'm across it. Yeah, how
you're going people? What's happening? Someone on TikTok tells us
we've been grating cheese wrong. We'll she had a dollar

(01:35:46):
for every story about how we're grating cheese wrong, at
about eight dollars. I think you put the cheese grater
on its side. Not a bad idea. Hi, Hi Shane,
it's Marcus. Welcome.

Speaker 23 (01:36:03):
Hey Marcus, you mate.

Speaker 18 (01:36:04):
All good?

Speaker 2 (01:36:05):
Thank you, Shane.

Speaker 30 (01:36:06):
All good and awesome.

Speaker 16 (01:36:07):
Hey.

Speaker 30 (01:36:08):
I've just been listening to this time travel business that's
going on the radio, and I thought I'd just put
my two cents worth in as far as I can,
as far as I'm aware, I don't. I personally don't
believe there's anything such as a time travel. There are
some people that have talked about certain reasons why that

(01:36:29):
is not the case, and I tend to agree with
those people. But in saying that, I do believe there
would be such a thing as teleporting. So you'd be
still in the same time slot, but you'd be going
from one area to another into a different dimension. Possibly
that that was something that I think is plausible.

Speaker 2 (01:36:51):
So you would be traveling in time, but you physically
travel in an instant.

Speaker 30 (01:36:55):
You wouldn't be traveling in time. You'd be traveling at
the same time, but to a different area, let's say,
to speak or di'mension.

Speaker 2 (01:37:06):
On Earth or in the universe and on Earth on Earth.

Speaker 11 (01:37:10):
I don't.

Speaker 30 (01:37:11):
I don't think it's plausible to do it to other
other places, because if you were to do it, you'd
pully end up in a place where you couldn't breathe
or survived.

Speaker 2 (01:37:20):
Good point.

Speaker 30 (01:37:21):
So that's what I'd say. It's just plausible within this
country or this this world.

Speaker 2 (01:37:25):
Sorry, will another thing, what will be the mechanics of it?

Speaker 30 (01:37:31):
As Nicola Tesla said, everything has sound and vibration, So
everything's on frequencies and vibration. And I've actually seen some
videos of people that have used sound and frequencies and
they've gotten to a certain point in those frequencies and
they've been able to open up an area and you
can actually see through that area into another place on

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on this planet.

Speaker 18 (01:37:54):
Believe it or not.

Speaker 30 (01:37:55):
Whether that's actually something that was actually done or not,
I'm not sure that I've seen videos of people trying it,
and I've seen some people that have, as far as
the video is concerned, made that successful.

Speaker 2 (01:38:07):
I think what Tesla said, if you want to find
the secret of the universe, think in terms of energy,
frequency and vibration.

Speaker 30 (01:38:15):
Correct, Yeah, yeah, yeah. And so there's another little thing
that I'd like to touch on that is it is
a relative to this and the reason why I don't
think time is a construct where we can actually go
backwards and forwards. Is the fact that time is something
that we have designed ourselves as a measure of duration

(01:38:39):
of something like that.

Speaker 2 (01:38:41):
That's a valid point.

Speaker 3 (01:38:43):
Yeah, And that's.

Speaker 30 (01:38:45):
Something that's a construct that we we lived within ourselves.
So because it's something we've done ourselves, I don't think
it's something that we can work outside of that, if
you know what I mean.

Speaker 12 (01:38:58):
And then to go a little bit.

Speaker 2 (01:39:00):
Construct, have we construct ourselves or have we just named it?

Speaker 30 (01:39:04):
It's something we named. It's like we have a measure
of distance, we call that colongitism miles. We have a
measure of weight it's kilograms or grams or or whatever.
We have a measure of volume of holding capacity of
liquids and that's milli liters or meters and I get it. Yeah,

(01:39:25):
And the same thing goes with time, a construct that
we've put a word to, but it's not something that
we can actually deal with because we can't move backwards
and forwards within that construct. But we might be able
to move from one place to another within that same
sort of time area.

Speaker 16 (01:39:46):
If you know what I mean.

Speaker 2 (01:39:48):
Very good, Thank you, Shane Show.

Speaker 15 (01:39:50):
We Yeah, Rush. How are you doing tonight?

Speaker 3 (01:39:55):
Good?

Speaker 2 (01:39:55):
Thanks Hue.

Speaker 16 (01:39:57):
I'm interested to your think on time travel. I heard
your conversation with the last chip and I think he
was saying we didn't put a construct on distance. That's
one thing he's trying to say, but the other one
I wanted.

Speaker 2 (01:40:15):
I'm just gonna say, I get your phone sorted.

Speaker 10 (01:40:17):
Here.

Speaker 2 (01:40:17):
We just told there and talked about producer. Okay, because
it's really windy. Sorry about that. Here we the ticko
was terrible. It's better now. Greetings, welcome Marcus, Thank you, Marcus.

Speaker 16 (01:40:27):
So my apologies. I was in the bad wind zone.

Speaker 2 (01:40:30):
Yeah, we're we're we're out of interest. It sounded familiar.

Speaker 16 (01:40:35):
I don't think you would know this place. It's it's
between Pepper and Tinnipie.

Speaker 2 (01:40:42):
Oh you're on the kaip.

Speaker 16 (01:40:45):
Up in the hills.

Speaker 3 (01:40:46):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:40:46):
Nice, like it. Like the sounds of it. Brether in country,
not me, not me parent, they're not on the phone.
They don't listen to the radio. The breath is so
we can say what we like about.

Speaker 16 (01:41:01):
So I got to laugh at it.

Speaker 3 (01:41:02):
What you said.

Speaker 16 (01:41:03):
Yeah, yeah, no, I'm a I'm a farmer. Rut this
way and the only way to get phone receptions to
go up on the ridgeline.

Speaker 2 (01:41:12):
Oh good, well, thank you for your service to the land.
We appreciate the good you do.

Speaker 13 (01:41:17):
I do.

Speaker 16 (01:41:18):
I do what I can. It's very little. But anyway,
the thing you were mentioning about the time travel, well
I'm not that smart. I can use a chainsaw and
milk a cow. But stuff you missed about time travel.

(01:41:38):
The thing I want to talk about is something in history.
Was the comp de Saint Germaine. Yes, and there was
talking about time travel within him.

Speaker 2 (01:41:52):
You know what, who's the comp to Saint Domain the.

Speaker 16 (01:41:56):
Comp Descint Jermaine. He was seen throughout history for several
hundred years. I'm not sure it was time travel or
somebody who lived a long time. Okay, and stuff I've read, okay,
contest Saint Germaine. I'm trying to use a French language

(01:42:18):
and my English isn't even that good.

Speaker 2 (01:42:21):
It's pretty good.

Speaker 16 (01:42:23):
And I mean, you need some time traveling. The only
thing I think is with Time Traveler is it doesn't
come with a DeLorean DMC. I don't want to know
about it.

Speaker 2 (01:42:35):
Never liked the look of the DeLorean.

Speaker 16 (01:42:37):
It was a terrible car, but at time and age
it was what it.

Speaker 2 (01:42:41):
Was made in Northern Ireland. Christ's Marcus. Welcome, good evening, Marcus.

Speaker 10 (01:42:48):
I wanted to talk about the time war stuff.

Speaker 15 (01:42:52):
Yeah, so interesting topic.

Speaker 10 (01:42:56):
This is this is really so.

Speaker 15 (01:42:59):
I've watched Star Trek and Stargates s G.

Speaker 10 (01:43:04):
I is the macguy of the guy and we leap
from one world to another, and you know a lot
of these things the opening doors from when you walk
up to them, and.

Speaker 15 (01:43:16):
Star Trek came through touch screen devices. Star Trek came true.

Speaker 10 (01:43:23):
Maybe maybe, just maybe it's just a little bit of
a drip feed to people about the future of technology,
of what we could do in the future.

Speaker 2 (01:43:32):
That's so you think you think Star Trek might have
been made by people that have come back from the future.

Speaker 10 (01:43:39):
Just to drip feed it to the to the to
the people that couldn't tolerate it and potentially use a
little bit of learning and a drip feed just to
throw it out there for But I'm a wanted to
talk about my personal experience of going back in time

(01:44:01):
if I may, Yeah, please, There's a beautiful little town
that I would recommend to anyone who wants to travel
really in New Wales on a holiday of driving holiday
it's about an hour and a half inland from Newcastle.
It's called Morpis. And they don't allow big corporations to down,

(01:44:30):
so you don't have a woolies, you don't have a coals.
The Commonwealth Bank still which is the main one of
the main banks in Australia, still has their original logo
on the front window. And all the businesses down the
main street are still family and independently owned, and they've

(01:44:51):
got of craft shops. You know, you might get a
bot loapener that's made out of a bullet, like if
you ever get the chance to go to Morpis. Like
I think that's the of us South Wales because you
go back in time and that's my travel back in

(01:45:14):
time experience.

Speaker 2 (01:45:16):
How was the Crystal Palace before the rugby?

Speaker 10 (01:45:20):
It was because its market it was really good. Went
to the rugby. The first fifteen minutes we were laughing, screaming,
carrying on and.

Speaker 15 (01:45:30):
All of a sudden a little bit nervous.

Speaker 2 (01:45:35):
Must have people, people man need supporting Australia.

Speaker 10 (01:45:40):
Look in all fairness, I think the crowd was probably
about a fifty to fifty split.

Speaker 2 (01:45:45):
That's what it seemed like watching it.

Speaker 10 (01:45:47):
Yeah, and it's always that way. I've been to about
three or four tests in Australians were always packing enough
kiwis in there to make it a home game.

Speaker 15 (01:45:57):
For our boys. Yeah, but it was yeah, we were
you know, Yahoo and.

Speaker 10 (01:46:03):
Carrying on and then on the end of the game,
I must our fellow.

Speaker 15 (01:46:09):
New Zealanders, including myself. We're a little bit more quiet.

Speaker 2 (01:46:14):
Have you been made aware of the Aussie Rules Final
coming out? That's a Sydney team versus the Brisbane team.
Is that hit your sphere of orbit?

Speaker 10 (01:46:22):
Yeah, and that's really I think it's the first time
since about two thousand and five or six and been
about twenty years that two non Victoria.

Speaker 2 (01:46:34):
It's amazing that there's that their game has been stolen
by the other states.

Speaker 10 (01:46:40):
Yeah, and a lot of those players they do travel,
so they may have grown up in Victoria, but they
go to these other states to get away from the
people they know or whatever and just focus on their careers.
So it's the again, it's like the NRL, they've got
a salary cap and so you know, the Victoria is

(01:47:01):
the heartland of AFL and so it was South Australia
and West Australia. But we inc a team from Queensland
and to be playing in their Grand Final. I think
they'll pooh pooh it, to be honest, because they won't
enjoy that. It would like us watching the Super Final.

(01:47:24):
If we had the act Brumbys versus the Reds playing,
we would pooh pooh that final too.

Speaker 2 (01:47:30):
I wonder if a lot of people will be traveling
down from Brisbane and Sydney to Melbourne Ford or they'll
just be seasoned. Who will be? Who will be? Could
I presume it or fill up a.

Speaker 10 (01:47:40):
Absolutely? Because there's there's people they can fill out the
seg people for a final. There will be so many
people from Sydney going down for that. I mean AFL
and are more passionate in Australia than league or union

(01:48:02):
or cricket fans. They are passionate.

Speaker 15 (01:48:05):
So but that right into the AFL. So it'll it'll
it'll be capacity. But it's just for me.

Speaker 10 (01:48:16):
It's a laugh with the Victorians and you couldn't put
a team in the final.

Speaker 2 (01:48:20):
Yeah, I believe. Well, nice to talk. Thanks for hearing
from you, Chris Marcus. I could travel back in time,
I'd go back and tell myself not to take for
film graphics. I think we've had that before, someone saying that,
Greetings people, my name is Marcus Hill. Twelve o'clock, oh,
eight hundred eighty to eighty and nine two nine to

(01:48:43):
the text, Oh, get in touch, oh eight hundred eighty
to Eddyan nine to nine to the text get in touch, Oh,
eight hundred eighty ten eighty and nine two nine to
the text Marcus still twelve time travel, time travel. What

(01:49:03):
do you got people? Let me know. Keep those texts
coming through. Someone does any product recalls? Wow, Marcus, the
allbecks have been in a rebuild station. Twenty sixteen. That
was when all those players who won the World Cup
left McCaw Cardnanu Smith hard to replace. The best players

(01:49:26):
play league, better game to watch and play. Zane, you've
got to be as big. Hello, bullets, Marcus welcome.

Speaker 19 (01:49:34):
You know Marcus, you hear me?

Speaker 16 (01:49:36):
Okay, Yeah, good bell, We're all good.

Speaker 19 (01:49:40):
That chap that rang you mentioned Morpeth than New South Wales. Yeah,
I received a phone call from there from my partner
about six o'clock this evening.

Speaker 2 (01:49:51):
Goodness me, what are coincidence?

Speaker 19 (01:49:55):
Her daughter married a really nice Ossie Blake and they
live in a place called Millfield, which is not that
it's in land from Newcastle Newcastle or Robert calls it Newcastle,
and on our visits over there to see her, the

(01:50:20):
first place we go to visit is Morepeth because like
that Chap said, it's like going back in time and
it's a little dinky dies shops and places where the
part of the foot pass cobblestone that were laid by

(01:50:45):
convicts quite a long time ago, and it is it's
just like going back in time to go there. And
actually it's got a nice old pub with nice cold
beer and the best fish and chips you've ever tasted.

Speaker 3 (01:51:02):
What it is?

Speaker 2 (01:51:04):
How far away it's in land?

Speaker 5 (01:51:06):
Is it?

Speaker 19 (01:51:08):
Yeah, it's inland from Newcastle.

Speaker 2 (01:51:10):
You don't buy fish and chips that far from the sea.
Only ever buy the fish and chips when you can
see the ocean.

Speaker 13 (01:51:16):
I know.

Speaker 11 (01:51:16):
Beautiful really yeah, I agree.

Speaker 2 (01:51:21):
With that what you said that what's the hotel is called?
Is it called the Commercial?

Speaker 17 (01:51:27):
Big?

Speaker 19 (01:51:28):
I can't remember.

Speaker 2 (01:51:29):
Big brick, two story balcony looks good.

Speaker 19 (01:51:32):
I like the looks it's in some of the shops.
There's some sort of things in there that there's quite
a lot of stuff that the local people make, you know,
do they accept do.

Speaker 2 (01:51:44):
They accept cash? It's not a left pause now because
it's old school.

Speaker 19 (01:51:47):
Eh No, I don't accept cash. Yeah, well I hadn't
been there for two years. I didn't go over this
time because I had a fairly oh maybe six and
I have a fairly severe operational war back and ever
fully covered from.

Speaker 2 (01:52:02):
At least you're on the mean by the sounds of things.

Speaker 19 (01:52:05):
Oh yeah, I fell out of bed when he mentioned more.

Speaker 2 (01:52:08):
Pith, you know, because every town I get to mention eventually,
I've never heard of that.

Speaker 10 (01:52:12):
I love.

Speaker 2 (01:52:13):
I love Newcastle, it's one of my favorite places. But
I never heard of more Pith.

Speaker 19 (01:52:18):
Have you ever on on the road out of Newcastle?
Going out that way does a great big arched bridge.
It's fascinating, isn't it. Where they built that high so
the big ships that pick up the coal could get
get underneath it with other than having to you know,

(01:52:41):
pack the bridge open or something like that. It's a
bit weird going over that thing, isn't it.

Speaker 2 (01:52:47):
Can you get a train to Morepeth?

Speaker 19 (01:52:50):
I can't remember. We went by a road. You certainly
get a train to to Newcastle from Sydney, But where
where She lives as a little town called Milfi, which
is a bit isolated. It's about fifteen minute drive for

(01:53:14):
the nearest big town, which is called Cess Knock. The
nickname for that does ces take a guess or preps
could be several. I got several funny variations on it.
It's a funny ce s s. You know, it's about

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the size of the wall.

Speaker 2 (01:53:37):
And I think, now, what part, what partner is in
the want to know yourself?

Speaker 19 (01:53:43):
Not far and down the ring a ticket?

Speaker 2 (01:53:45):
Oh goodness, didn't hear from the ring a ticket?

Speaker 15 (01:53:47):
Look?

Speaker 2 (01:53:47):
Well, nice to hear from me. Thank you, Carol. It's Marcus.

Speaker 34 (01:53:52):
Good evening, he Marcus is Carol here?

Speaker 22 (01:53:57):
Look. I listened to a program by Brian Cox some
time ago, and although I had a sort I had
a grip of the thing the time. He was explaining
it very well, and I was quite intrigued. I can't
really remember a lot of the details, but basically what
he's saying is that we're all time travelers, everybody on

(01:54:21):
the planets, everybody in the universe, or maybe that a stretch,
but everybody on the Earth anyway, which is bursting and
moving at tremendous speed in an outward direction into the
universe all the time that the universe is still exploding.

Speaker 2 (01:54:41):
That's a good point.

Speaker 22 (01:54:42):
It's still traveling, and so you know, we can't be
in the same place at the same time. So I thought, well,
that's sort of time travel, isn't it.

Speaker 2 (01:54:56):
Yeah, I guess so. I mean it does get very complicated,
but it seems like we're not going to get time
travel that kind of thought that we could. It's going
to be kind of approximation or something.

Speaker 22 (01:55:06):
Yeah, that's right. It's like if you sort of explode
one of those party popper things, you know, all that
stuff comes out. Well, it's like that, but it goes
on forever, and our whole little bit of universe, which
we recognize around us in the sky, comes with us
for a whole. I mean, it seems vast to us,

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enormous and incomprehensible.

Speaker 2 (01:55:30):
I find the size of the universe and comprehensibly bigger.
I know, I know, it's trillions of suns. It's just
unbelievable or starts.

Speaker 22 (01:55:39):
It just blows your mind, doesn't it. But Brian Cox
boiled it all down to sensible words and sentences, and
I'm not completelyiot. I'm eighty five. I'm not completely idiot,
and I thought, do you know what sort of makes
quite a lot of sense. I don't know that things

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work on a very local level, like in Nick's field
or down the road running. I think all that comes
with us at the same time. But it's just it.
It's not philosophy, really is it. It's space physics, physics.

Speaker 2 (01:56:19):
And it may that you say you're already five. I mean,
you know the thing is it's probably only doing recent
years you've even comprehend this, because in recent years start
understanding and started talking about this stuff.

Speaker 22 (01:56:29):
Not to be honest with you, marcu So, I never
even gave it a thought. I mean I just took life,
life for granted. I was in the world good enough
for me, and and you know, when you came out
with this program, I was sitting in my old chair
gently knitting, and it kind of gave.

Speaker 10 (01:56:46):
Me a bit.

Speaker 11 (01:56:51):
Thing.

Speaker 2 (01:56:53):
Are you dissing anything interesting?

Speaker 10 (01:56:56):
No?

Speaker 22 (01:56:57):
I keep dropping things. I mean, I start out doing
one thing that fings up for something else, but I
enjoy it and I'm good. I do a lot of
spinning right home space.

Speaker 2 (01:57:06):
Oh you don't want to l pecka will do you
I've got a lot of that.

Speaker 22 (01:57:10):
Oh yeah, I love our packer. Will you could get
money for that, young Marcus, because I.

Speaker 2 (01:57:17):
Think we needed I think we just want to get
rid of it a bit. Nice to talk to you, Carol.
Thank you. Twenty seven to twelve. My name is Marcus
Head on Midnight. Oh wait, one hundred and eight, anything goes.
I've enjoyed the show, mensely, enjoyed them mensely. Always get
one or two negative texts from me, go but on
the universe, that's fine. It's your guy's journey. Some people
think it's boring. Well, the only thing that's boring is

(01:57:39):
probably your mind people. Hi Jimmy, it's Marcus. Welcome, Hi Magus.

Speaker 13 (01:57:49):
I was wondering if do you remember a movie called
The Langaliers by Stephen King.

Speaker 2 (01:57:56):
No, I don't think I would have seen that.

Speaker 13 (01:57:58):
It was a book as well, Langaliers. I think it
was called It's about any airplane full of people when
they I don't know if they they are going back
in time.

Speaker 11 (01:58:10):
That's right, so.

Speaker 13 (01:58:13):
But time gets eaten up, so the past gets eating nuts,
so there's nothing there to go back to. Does that
make sense?

Speaker 3 (01:58:24):
Yes?

Speaker 13 (01:58:25):
Yeah, it was a great movie. Stephen King. So scientists
know that it's very virtually impossible to go backwards, but
there is a possibility to go forward.

Speaker 2 (01:58:41):
Sure, you know what I mean.

Speaker 13 (01:58:45):
It's like Tesla. Then I heard that person talking about Tesla.
He's now unfortunate for him. He wanted to give the
world something for free, but we all know that we
don't get anything for free. And that's why he was stopped.

(01:59:09):
Because he knew that he could give free electricity to
people where over the world. And all these talk like
the JPS, Morgan and all them, they said, no, I
couldn't let him do it. It's a shame. And he
is the greatest scientist in the world. We learn a
lot from me, and he didn't vent quite a lot

(01:59:31):
of things. But what he talked about time travel was
that we will be able to time travel. But it's
actually not the time travel as we think. They have
to been to time in itself. They have to be
in space and that's where you're going to get your.

Speaker 2 (01:59:49):
Time travel, which seems incomprehensible.

Speaker 13 (01:59:52):
Did it, Yeah, yeah, but it's been a great I
thank you for bringing it up. And he's just been
listening for the last two hours. But it just I've
always been into it, but thanks for bringing up that subject.
Has been a really good night.

Speaker 2 (02:00:05):
Yeah, because apparently Tesla was obsessed with time travel and
I didn't really know that before tonight.

Speaker 10 (02:00:11):
Yeah, it was.

Speaker 13 (02:00:14):
He wanted to show that there's more to just hear,
like electricity, sound waves, frequency ways. It's all around us.
We just can't see it and we don't know how
to actually taf into it properly. And energy is we

(02:00:34):
don't make energy. Energy is always there. Energy cannot be created,
it can only be transferred. And yeah, that's right. And
it's also talking about like, Okay, so the past, we've
learned from the past. The present we apply that knowledge

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that we learned from the past, and the future we
use that knowledge for our growth.

Speaker 2 (02:01:02):
Okay, what are you doing, you're cooking.

Speaker 22 (02:01:07):
I'm not.

Speaker 13 (02:01:07):
I'm actually reading.

Speaker 2 (02:01:08):
Tesla lived to a good age. She lived to eighty one.
How do you think Tesla died in the fall of
nineteen thirty seven, at the age of eighty one. After midnight,
Tesla left the Hotel New Yorker to make his regular

(02:01:29):
commit to the cathedral and library to feed the pigeons.
So he's eighty one, he's out at midnight, going to
feed the pigeons. While crossing the street, he was struck
by a moving taxi cab and thrown to the ground,

(02:01:51):
never fully recovered.

Speaker 13 (02:01:57):
There you go.

Speaker 2 (02:02:00):
That's Tesla, not the car, the person. Hello Jamie, it's Marcus.
Good evening.

Speaker 35 (02:02:10):
Hey, how are you going. I don't know if anyone's
mentioned it, but the lint in an airplane, a time
traveling machine.

Speaker 2 (02:02:16):
Forgets very fair. You fast, the spre something approaching the
speed of light.

Speaker 18 (02:02:20):
I think.

Speaker 35 (02:02:22):
I would make it. I was just thinking, because if
you go up in the world, or whichever way you go,
you go on, you going.

Speaker 2 (02:02:28):
Back and day, aren't you two years with different time zones?

Speaker 13 (02:02:31):
That's right?

Speaker 35 (02:02:33):
So you know, like you fly to New Zealand from
Australia and you land there at the same time.

Speaker 27 (02:02:40):
Yeah, that's very leave.

Speaker 15 (02:02:43):
So you know, I'll just think.

Speaker 35 (02:02:46):
I don't know, Yeah, mister Chiny just got back in
the truck. But I just thought, I was thinking, has
anyone mentioned that?

Speaker 2 (02:02:52):
I thought, I guess it's just because you appear because
the earth rotated beneath you, I suppose in some ways,
so then you land and then you're Yeah, I guess
it's it seemed like time, Trevor, wouldn't it. But there's
a limit to how there's a limit to how far
back you can go. You're going to go back twenty
four hours.

Speaker 35 (02:03:12):
Yeah, that's what I was thinking. Because the plane's going
faster than what the sun's going over, so you know
you're ending up a day ahead or a day behind
on which way you're going.

Speaker 2 (02:03:25):
I don't know if it be the exact definition of
time travel, but I'm up for the discussion. We're about
to you, Jamie, just.

Speaker 35 (02:03:33):
Eleana just hitting south, yeah, back, just sitting to Sydney.
So I'll do another couple of hours tonight and then
I'll go to bed and that'll be me.

Speaker 2 (02:03:42):
Will you go Will you take your truck into Sydney?

Speaker 10 (02:03:46):
Yeah, I'm going to go to.

Speaker 35 (02:03:48):
A place called rose Hill with a load of plasterboard on.

Speaker 2 (02:03:53):
Easy to drive around within Sydney.

Speaker 35 (02:03:57):
Sydney is horrible, the worst, probably the worst place that
we go to to take fe double not much fun,
but a kind of you get last and get stressed,
and I hope that you're in the right spot, you.

Speaker 2 (02:04:11):
Know, saying bell and and now where do you spend
the night?

Speaker 35 (02:04:17):
I might get the new probably get a Coss Harbor
tonight somewhere around there anyway.

Speaker 2 (02:04:23):
And there is a track stop you're stopping.

Speaker 29 (02:04:26):
Oh yeah, just just a.

Speaker 35 (02:04:27):
Rift area, yeah, probably the rist area just before Toss Harmer.

Speaker 23 (02:04:32):
Will be me.

Speaker 2 (02:04:33):
I reckon you get you'll get a good sleep there.

Speaker 35 (02:04:36):
Yeah, yeah, it's good. Yeah, as long as not take
the truck parkwn taken up by caravans.

Speaker 3 (02:04:41):
Then let us know.

Speaker 2 (02:04:44):
Jack, Hello, Ralph As Marcus.

Speaker 15 (02:04:47):
Good evening, Oh, good evening, Marcus.

Speaker 12 (02:04:50):
I was just watching the end of Midsummer mids and
I turned the radio on and you came on about
the sisler U. He was living in a hotel in
New York somewhere. I think I'm sure he was there,
and this is getting the horse before the cut before
the horse. But apparently when he died, the FBI went

(02:05:14):
and they embarggoed everything in his apartment or flat or
what he was. He was there, he had a bit
of room there with stuff, and apparently it's never it
was taken off to Washington and never seen again, the
electricity stuff. Apparently there was all sorts of people around

(02:05:34):
the world wanting his secrets and it was all confiscated
by the FBI or the CIA. Whoever was running the
show at that time, I don't know. But the other
thing I discerned because I was quite interested in the
time travel with the Earth travels. The spinning of the
Earth travels at six hundred kilometers an hour, and I

(02:05:58):
was watching a documentary film where guy went up in
a jet, and I was just writing all this stuff
down as I do on my computer. And apparently you
get up to the speed and you can actually sit
there consistently with the speed of the Earth spinning, and

(02:06:18):
you can just stay on the same spot.

Speaker 2 (02:06:21):
You'd be able to, wouldn't you. Yeah you could.

Speaker 12 (02:06:24):
Yeah, But if you go forward you can, and then
come back again you have the sunrise again. Or if
you go back and go forward, the same thing happens
in reverse. So if you can make out what I'm
saying there, it's the relative speed has got everything to
do with it, and the speed of the against the

(02:06:45):
speed of the Earth, and I imagine there was some
sort of affiliation there with the time travel, but I
don't really know what it's all about. But I'm definitely
right about the speed backwards and forwards above six hundred
ks or I think it's six hundred case and.

Speaker 2 (02:07:05):
Can you make can you make the sun rise and
set again?

Speaker 12 (02:07:09):
Well, if you go below the speed that you have
to be where the spends, it will it will work
either way. If you go faster, you get ahead of it,
If you go slower, you go behind it. So you
can apparently you can make the sunrise again something or other,
however it works. I don't profess to know how that works,

(02:07:33):
but but I wrote it all down and I think
it's checkable easily.

Speaker 2 (02:07:39):
It's good.

Speaker 12 (02:07:43):
I like little things like that.

Speaker 2 (02:07:44):
It'll be expensive to do as a whimsy to just
get up there and get so the you can stop
the rotation. But thank you, Ralph evening. Eric, it's Marcus
good evening.

Speaker 3 (02:07:53):
Yeah, good subject mane. It's quite interesting, isn't it like
to be?

Speaker 2 (02:07:58):
To make it interesting?

Speaker 3 (02:08:00):
I was thinking like basically, you know, well, when you
look at the stars, you're actually looking back in time
because it takes at the speed of light. You actually
look at it. Sometimes looking at the stars that don't
exist anymore though they've already burnt out.

Speaker 2 (02:08:15):
It's amazing that day.

Speaker 3 (02:08:17):
Yeah, So you know, and human beings were quite an
interesting creature because when you think about it, we actually
have created something quite amazing, which we don't even think about.
And if you went back and back into the early days,
right back before all of our modern day inventions, back
to the horse and cart and whatnot, even before there

(02:08:37):
was film cameras anything like that, and you set the
people back then, one day someone's going to create able
to capture time on You'll be able to capture a
picture of today and look at it in the future,
or you'll even be able to watch yourself back from
the past. So we've already captured the past on a device.

(02:09:01):
Even though we can't go back into it, we can
actually see back there in you know, you pick your
camera up in your film something that's the past you're
looking at. So we have created the capture the past already. Yeah.
Another thing on time travel The way I see it
bit off a dyslexic thinker, So I think of the

(02:09:22):
out of the box. The way I see it is,
if you've got point A to point B, like you know,
let's say it takes one second to get from point
A to point B, and then and their calculation of
that speed to get from there to there is x
y z. If you can actually go faster than the

(02:09:43):
actual point from A to B is with the maximum speed,
eventually you'd end up going so fast you end up
back to where you started before you even left where
they yeah, well kind of in my head, it's kind
of yeah, I just want to see it as well,

(02:10:05):
just the way it is. Eventually you must go backwards
if you if you can go if the speed is
so they say it's the speed of life. You can
go fast than the speed of light.

Speaker 2 (02:10:14):
But who knows, you know, I understand, I understand it's
a physical impossibility to go fast the speed of light.
It's a physical possibility even to close the approach the
speed of light.

Speaker 3 (02:10:23):
But yeah, but it isn't there, It isn't our realm
the way the way we are we could be printed
for we know.

Speaker 2 (02:10:30):
But the laws of physics apply everywhere, the universal that's
what that's.

Speaker 3 (02:10:35):
Not necessarily because if you look at quantum physics, the
law of physics don't apply. But the law of physics
have actually been throwing completely out of the cords. So
the scientists can't believe what quantum physics actually are coming
up with physics that we know don't don't apply quantum physics.

(02:10:58):
There's there's an experiment they did actually you actually go
online and watch it where they actually did this experiment
where they they fighted Adams at this basically bored with
two splits in it.

Speaker 18 (02:11:10):
So if you if you.

Speaker 3 (02:11:13):
Yeah, and when when people watched it, when people had
observed it, it did exactly what they expected to do.
There would be you know, he's got two slits you fight.
If you had a paintball gun you fired shots at
this board with two slits in it behind it, you
would end up with a row of colors, two rows.

(02:11:36):
But when people observed that that happened. But when it didn't,
when they didn't observe it, there was like six rows,
which is extra an impossibility. There's only two slots, and
every time they went back in the room it would
go back to two. But every time they went out
of the room and just let it do whatever it
wanted to do, it came up with more rows. So

(02:11:59):
the scientists from baffle and they're still baffled today. They said,
it doesn't make any sense. It's not it's actually impossible
for it to happen. So it's quantum physics. If you
want to really delve into crazy stuff that does exist,
which is real true science. And go and have a
look at quantum physics. Guys. That's rule bizarre.

Speaker 2 (02:12:20):
Look, it is nice to hear from you, Eric, thank
you for that. I am done, done, done done. We've
got into the double slit experiment, which is all about
you can't be independent. The observer is not independent. That
becomes part of it. I just want to talk about
guinea pig rescue, but that's not the topic for tonight. Yeah,

(02:12:47):
do get in touch with you and talk to Mikey Beben.
I do like the fact. What I find the most
amazing is that the thing that we don't understand about
time travel all the thing the money begin to understand
tonight is that if there's time travel in the future,

(02:13:07):
then people that will want a time travel will always
want to go and see the same things, won't They
like the death of Caesar, or like the Crucifixion, or
like the Gettysburg address. So suddenly these very famous historical
events will be the places where you'd go to see

(02:13:31):
time travelers that might be in disguise, or might be invisible,
or might just not be there because it's not possible.
To me, that's interesting because that's where you go to
see time travelers. They might be there at Trump's inauguration. Yeah,

(02:13:55):
I hadn't thought about that. Maybe that could be good
if you running a community event to advertise to the future,
for time travelers to come, be a good way to
promote your town. Mike is next. I am done. That's
a lot for me to digest. That's some good thoughts.

(02:14:16):
Enjoy your Wednesday midnight bluff if it's not too windy,
Talk to you tomorrow.

Speaker 1 (02:14:23):
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