Mince is the new butter (19 August 2025)

Marcus talks giant aircraft, and discusses the new development in the Tom Phillips saga.

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Speaker 1 (00:07):
You're listening to the Marcus lush Night's podcast from News Talks.

Speaker 2 (00:11):
A'd be.

Speaker 3 (00:13):
Greetings, which News said in My name is Marcus Hurdle,
twelve o'clock midnight. Just come from an in the Cargo
Council candidate speed dating event. Yes, that's right, were people
can ask you questions for five minutes and that was interesting.
It was ninety people that had signed up for that,
ninety people to ask the candidates. And yeah, that was good.

(00:38):
It's about as much as I can say about that.
But anyway, that's where I have come from, which has
been a big day. We had Polyfest too. One of
the older boys was in the school Kappa Huka, which
was good, big performance from a school of six hundred
I thin probably one hundred and fifty that must have
been on stage. They performed very well and surprising enough.
I got there only and I saw a school that
was for their first time, Balfer School, which is like

(01:01):
in the middle of Inland South and in the WAPs
Old railway town. They're extraordinary for school for the first time,
so anyway, seems to grow every year, so well done
to them. Anyway. Here till twelve. My name is Marcus.
Good evening. Now, who loves planes, Put your hands up.
If your love planes, I can see a few hands Now,
put both hands up. If you like giant planes, I

(01:26):
can see a few more hands up. I've got good
news for you for Neuapai area alert. A United States
Air Force C five M Super Galaxy aircraft will be
landing at the r n ZAF Base Auckland on the
afternoon of Wednesday, August twenty, That is tomorrow. So if

(01:47):
you're a train spot at tomorrow, that five s the
C five M super Galaxy will be landing. Now I've
got to google that to see what it looks like.
But she's a big plane and probably not one you
see often in the North Island. They maybe go to
Operation Deep Freeze, no if that's true or not, but
they're a biggie. It's it's the largest aircraft in the

(02:10):
US Air Force inventory, primary used for strategic transport of
cargo and personnel to modernize version of the legacy C
five Galaxy design and manufactured by Lockheed. So anyway, that's
what's happening tomorrow. That's arriving. I can tell you more
about that. The aircraft is carrying the first off, two
deliveries of parts to the C one thirty j who
could simulator. The aircraft will be unloaded the following day.

(02:35):
We aim to keep disruption to a minimum during the
period and always appreciate the support of the local community.
That's tomorrow afternoon. I will see if I can get
more specific time on that, because I think the plane
spots all want to be there for that, So yeah,
I mean, it's not off we get interesting planes coming
upway sometimes we do, but if you follow that, we'll
I presumably be on flight radar and then you get
peepers out there to watch that film and get photos.

(02:58):
So that's exciting that tomorrow afternoon. I'm just trying to
get it more And by the way, if the person
email that could email with more specific times, I'd love
to hear you talk about that. But yes, that's all
I've got at the stage. Have you got more information
about that about what time we might get a prior
warnings that's tomorrow in the afternoon. I know some of

(03:18):
you guys love planes. By the way, speaking of planes
and things in space, this day in history in nineteen
sixty which is now sixty five years ago, Spucknick five
was launched by the USSR, carrying Strelker and Belka, two
dogs who became the first living beans to survive in space.

(03:42):
I don't quite know what happened with dogs. I think
in the previously that'd sent dogs that didn't come back,
but these dogs did come back. I presume they landed
on they land on land. The cosmlaunched and they so
I presume that would sort of land down in one
of the Tajakistan or something. So you know too much
about those dogs, but found that extremely interesting. So that's

(04:03):
on the topics of things we can talk about tonight.
I don't know how long they lived. Afterwards, there was
a movie made about them called Belka and Strelker Star Dogs.
They went on to have six puppies. One of the
puppies was given to JFK by Khrushev. This is interesting,
So they went to space, they came down right, and

(04:26):
one of them, Strelker, went on. They're now stuffed by
the way. Strelker went on to have six puppies with
a male dog called Pushock, and one of the puppies
was named Pushinka and was breaded to JFK by Krushov
and a Kennedy dog named Charlie and Pushika mat it,
resulting in the birth of four puppies the JFK called Pupnicks.

(04:51):
Two of the puppies, Butterfly and Streaker, were given away
to children the mid West. The other two puppies, White
Tips and Blackie, stant the Kenny home on Squaw Island,
but were given away to family friends And if sentants
of the dog are still living in twenty fifteen, fascinating.
That might be my new thing. Dogs in space. By
the way, they are on a stamp, a twenty ten

(05:13):
stamp that was released to celebrate the fiftieth anniversary of
this spaceflight. Yeah, what an amazing story that is. They
are accompanied by forty two mice, a gray rabbit, two rats, flies,
and several plants and fungi. All passengers survived. Sparknik five,
made seventeen revolutions around the Earth and spent twenty seven
hours in orbit. These were the first earth born creatures

(05:34):
to orbit Earth and return alive. What a great story
that is. Belka and Stroker. I don't know much about
the Russian space race, or dogs in space as we
could call it, but yeah, I don't ever really follow
that was too sort of transfixed retrospectively by the American

(05:56):
Space Race.

Speaker 4 (05:58):
So there you go.

Speaker 3 (05:58):
You might know something about that. They'd be a good
starter for tonight. I don't know how many dogs died
in space, but those ones came back. I know that
Laika died, So there we go. You might want to
mention that, talk about that. My name is Marcus Hittle twelve.
There are other topics. This is just a starter, just
to start an entry level topic in cases something else

(06:19):
you want to talk about. And there's a lot of
things I will read out to you tonight. We're expecting
snow tonight. So that precious system that kind of got
involved with the middle of the South Island last night,
I presume it's the same one that has now moved
north and that's going to cause some sort of snow
in the North Island. There are road snow fall warnings

(06:42):
for the Desert Island State Highway one clearly, the Napier
Topoa Road, State Highway five, and that Limataka Hill Road
overnight tonight. So truckies do what you do do truckies,
if you are up there and you see snow, let
me know that's front of mine. For me tonight. So

(07:02):
if that's something you're aware of, do get in touch
eight hundred and eighty ten eighty nine two nine detext
ittill twelve o'clock if you've got something to say about that,
also tonight.

Speaker 2 (07:10):
So there we go.

Speaker 3 (07:11):
Oh by the way too, this is probably a petty
Gower show on tonight that's got a couple of things
of interest. But one of the things is the Night
and Day shops. I don't know where they have Night
and Day. I think they're mainly in the South isle
of it. They are selling cheap butter tomorrow, so i'll
tell you about this because everyone loves a butter frenzy.
They're going to be selling butter at six dollars fifty,

(07:35):
so yeah, that's what they're doing. They've got twenty thousand
blocks of butter and from Wednesday we'll hold that price
at six fifty until it sells out. It's normally worth
about eleven dollars. I don't know where the Night and
Day stores are. The promotion will be available at Night
and Day stores nationwide from eight am tomorrow while stocks last.

(07:58):
It's very big down South Night and Day. The ads
are always on the radio. You've got it when you
want it at a night and day store. Night and day.
By the way, they're not a shop normally where things
are cheap. They normally a shop that tray's on convenience.
Sometimes I go there after work because they're open. There's
three night and days open right throughout the night and
Invert Cargill and yeah, they've got your basics, but they're

(08:20):
at a premium. So the reason they're selling the butter cheap,
I don't know what that's about getting people in there.
I suppose the lost leader anyway, So I'm not quite
sure where the country the night and day stores are.
You got it where you want it at night. I
don't know if they're an Auckland. Are they Someone might know,
Yes they are. There's six in Auckland if you want

(08:45):
cheap butter. I feel like i'm their promotion arm now.
But good on them for doing cheap butter. I don't
begrudge them that Night and Day, Henderson night and day,
Rosebank night and Day, Kingsland. None on the north Shore
Night and day is Tarmiki Night day, Ross Common Night
and day Taka Nini don't know if they're franchised. I

(09:06):
think they might just own a lot the people that
own them all. Anyway, that's a situation there. So there's
about ten in the South Island, a lot more than
that in the South Island. You got it when you
want it at a night and Day store. I've got
a lot to say tonight, people, So what to we
covered already? We've covered the snow and the giant plane
landing and those Russian dogs in space. Goodness, Marcus just

(09:36):
tried water drops and yogat delicious.

Speaker 2 (09:38):
There we go.

Speaker 3 (09:39):
That's fantastic. Anyway, get in touch anyway, nine text. My
name is Marcus Settlement night. But anyway, if you want
to start the whole war rolling, I've about thirty things
I want to talk about tonight, so I'm not in
any hurry for calls, but if you want to talk
about the spot Nick project and the dogs. And I

(09:59):
don't know if Laika was ever meant to come back
or it was a malfunction. And I was a free
young child. I went to see a movie that was
about the dog stuck in space and it stayed with
me a bit. So yes, but there's cheap butter at
the Night and Day yeah, so that's yeah, And the
supermarkets would be the price is normal, would be much

(10:20):
more expected than the supermarket, but that's the convenience for
it's a convenience store. So yes, eight hundred and eighty
nine two nine. To detect if any of those things
have taken a fancy for you, you could tell me,
perhaps if you're a trained spot plane spotner, the last
time a plane that big landed at for Nouapai. And

(10:41):
when they say they've got ce simulators, I presume that's
to teach people to dry fly the new planes. And
that's a good thing or a bad thing. I thought
we'd have real planes that people would fly in. Oh okay, yeah,
someone said so the person's emailed me from my contact

(11:01):
at the errand AF from Facebook chat from those in
the no, looks like a clearedd Ain or tomorrow should
be great for photos. As someone said, four forty five
and a second different planes coming back on Friday, so
there's going to be two planes bringing the simulators twenty
past day. If you want to talk, my name is Marcus. Welcome,
as I say, oh, eight hundred and eighty nine nine

(11:23):
to text, do you want to talk? That's what we're
about tonight. If you've got anything else, you want to
mention good up for anything tonight it's one of those days,
but yeah, get in touch. The other thing I want
to talk about, I don't know. I know that it
was on that Paddy Gower show. I have seen articles
today that the police are saying that they well from

(11:45):
my understanding of the reading of the articles is the
police are prepared to negotiate with that guy that's taken
his children and gone into the bush. And I'm not
quite sure why they would be prepared to do that
because I thought that he was up for serious charges.
Surely he'd still have to face those And I guess

(12:06):
the other problem is how you would get those that
information to him. So I imagine that's going to be
a big conversation next day or two, particularly on the
back of this program and on the back of what
the police have said. So you might want to talk
about that as well tonight. This is the guy that's
missing with his children that you will know about in
the middle of the North Island or the side of

(12:27):
the North Island, Tom Phillips. So yes, the detective hunting
Tom Phillips. Is a message for the fugitive of those
helping him, come and talk to us, let's negotiate, Let's
do a deal. The first time police have opped up
and negotiation to try and get Phillips to bring the
missing Maricopa children home. Detective Senior Serge Andrew Saun has

(12:50):
made the public plea on Paddy Gower Show, saying we
want Tom and those who are helping him. Let's work
out a negotiation. Let's work out there everyone safely. Well,
surely you can't negotiate away the crimes that he's done,
but anyway, hold your horses with you soon. Twenty one
past eight for Jim Marcus.

Speaker 5 (13:07):
Welcome, good evening, Hey Marcus, how are you good?

Speaker 3 (13:10):
Thanks to what's happening?

Speaker 5 (13:13):
Not a lot actually, but I just sent you a
whole lot of photos which should be in your email inbox. Yes,
copy of on a C five Galaxy which I had
the good fortune to go on board some years ago.

Speaker 3 (13:28):
And it would with what connection? With what connection?

Speaker 5 (13:35):
Oh, a friend of a friend. So you're seeing the
photos that my friend is involved with the military and
the and the police and the U well actually around
the world. And his friend who is the Air Force
pilot or was actually National Guard pilot as well. See
in the photo there's also a police deputy with my

(13:58):
friend in Mississippi, so that's the relationship with them, and
we we had a ticket to around the I think
it was one hundred and fifty fifth from memory, one
hundred and fifty four Air National Guard base in Memphis
and actually in Tennessee, not Mississippi.

Speaker 3 (14:18):
So yeah, it's pretty story looking play, isn't it.

Speaker 6 (14:23):
Yeah, it is.

Speaker 5 (14:23):
And the interesting thing about it is most of the
pilots from the National Guard they fly commercially because of
the National Guard. They all volunteers. Obviously, they fly commercially
for most of the big caurier companies like dhl X

(14:44):
because Memphis is the main freight hub in the US
or so that's where the pilots come from and most
of the air crew for that matter. So yeah, it
was an amazing experience. Got to go on board a
simulator and as you can see it, looked around the
plane and it's a huge, huge plane, very old that

(15:05):
one that was from nineteen sixty nine that was built.
You can tell that by the tail number on them.
So yeah, it was quite a fascinating experience.

Speaker 3 (15:14):
Would those planes arrive offen in New Zealand.

Speaker 5 (15:19):
That I couldn't tell you. But interestingly, if you go
into the operations center there, they have obviously everything's computerized,
but they also have manuals. I don't think this is classified. Also,
it's pretty general knowledge, but they have they have flight
manuals every known airport in the world. Oh wow, So

(15:44):
if they wanted to fly into Arden or say in
Auckland's here, they could tick out the flight manual for
art More and it would give them all the locales,
that radio's codes, everything.

Speaker 7 (15:57):
It's yeah, it was.

Speaker 5 (15:58):
It was really quite amazing.

Speaker 3 (16:00):
And what year did you say that was that you
were edgym Oh, that was way back.

Speaker 5 (16:04):
That was two thousand and nine, so you can see
you was a bit younger then.

Speaker 3 (16:09):
Yeah, for six of them. I appreciate that. Thank you,
dB Marcus welcome.

Speaker 8 (16:13):
Yes, evening.

Speaker 9 (16:15):
I was going to tip you on your disparagement of
flight simulators.

Speaker 3 (16:19):
Oh well no, I just thought they'd be bringing a
new upt skill for our hercules. But we've already got those,
have we?

Speaker 4 (16:26):
Yeah, okay, we but.

Speaker 9 (16:28):
These these aircraft these days are so sophisticated you can't
do you can't learn to fly them without a simulator.

Speaker 3 (16:36):
Of course, I wondered.

Speaker 9 (16:39):
You know what to be searching for the big red
button when you know the noisy thing on the wing
stops making noise.

Speaker 3 (16:45):
Okay, So the the modern way an Air Force military
pilot will learn to play learn to fly now is
mainly in a simulator, and.

Speaker 9 (16:58):
Commercial pilots too. My sounds currently burning a three twenties
up in Auckland. And yeah, that's because you have to
get all the emergency reactions learned before you get into
a real aircraft carrying real people. You can't practice some
of the emergencies that can come up with a real aircraft.

(17:19):
You have to practice it to the point that you
can do it with your eyes shut.

Speaker 3 (17:24):
Sure is your is your stunting commercial pilot dB?

Speaker 9 (17:29):
Yeah, he's just transitioning on day three twenties.

Speaker 3 (17:32):
Within his zealand coming from where coming from the prop
plane to where do you go do?

Speaker 9 (17:36):
Before that, he was flying their shades for the last
five years.

Speaker 3 (17:40):
I think how long is how long is in the simulator?

Speaker 9 (17:43):
For three weeks? I think got two weeks of book work.
I think three weeks of the simulator and then he
gets to start playing with the real thing.

Speaker 3 (17:55):
I suppose, And I suppose too they have a lot
of spare planes to learn and because they're their commercial
schedules are pretty pretty crowded, aren't they.

Speaker 9 (18:03):
Well, a very expensive item to try and liked you
can't simulate some of the faults with a live aircraft
with passages, okay, So and.

Speaker 3 (18:15):
These hercules simulators must be pretty bigger than needing such
a giant plane to come And do you know if
those planes come to use it? And often?

Speaker 2 (18:21):
dB?

Speaker 9 (18:22):
No, I don't unfortunately, So I think I'm with you.
I think they got out of the ice, so they
play out of christ Church.

Speaker 3 (18:29):
Yeah, not that offer add more. I'll get some more
information about that. Both free good calls, dB and Jim,
thank you for that. It's covering off the always we
trend well with aviation on the show. By the way,
it's gone for quiet about the Indian that heir India plane,
isn't it. The last thing was a speculation of the
guard put on the ground on his own accord. I

(18:50):
haven't heard anything subsequently to go down on that. To
not go down on that too, you know, to refute
those allegations, which imagine would have happened by now twenty
nine away from nine o'clock. My name's Marcus, welcome five
point three million.

Speaker 10 (19:04):
There we go.

Speaker 3 (19:05):
For a long time, it seemed to be three and
a quarter million, so it's going quite quickly anyway. Lines
they're free with talking aviation. Also to the situation of
the situation with Tom Phillips, and that's sort of getting
texting about that. Marcus at Dandy here, I think this
is ridiculous. It's been almost four years and you're telling

(19:25):
me the bloody Army couldn't be in there finding him. Yeah,
I think it's good. I think it's a slightly more
I want to use the word you wants, but that's
a slightly overused word. I think it's quite a complicated situation.
I think he has firearms. I think we know that,
and I think the last thing the police would want

(19:46):
would be any sort of a shootout or something like
that when there's children involved. So I think once you
think about that for a while, you realize probably that
the police are rehamstrung with how they can resolve a
situation like that. So that's the information there, Marcus and
Australian hercules that it would burn airput on some They
thank you, Marcus. The best thing about Night and Day

(20:10):
is reliably open when you're out of something. Try to
avoid them though, which people will be doing with economic situation.
It's a lost leader for sure. Yeah, it's all about
it's convenience to all night and day. But I think
in in Vicargo it seems to be very reconvin because
a lot of peop must finish their freezing workshifts at
midnight because they do serve hot food often people, and
they're getting hot dogs and chips and chicken on a

(20:32):
cold one's night always seems delicious. Marcus, would you please
put the info about the super galaxy on your Facebook page? Done? Marcus?
What happens if someone dies in space or the space
station told on a I presume they would bring their
body back to Earth. I don't think they'd have burials
in space, even if the people had wished that. I
think that would be considered to be I don't know
that yet. I don't know if there's been a burial

(20:53):
in space. I know these days we send ashes into space,
do we I think that has been done? Do you
get in touch? You want to add to these topics
or something else? Eight hundred and eighty ten eighty Thanks
Jim for those pictures too, but yeah, so there we go.
Of course you got to learn to play it fly
on simulators. It makes perfect sense, doesn't it ready when
you think about it. Twenty seven to nine. So just

(21:14):
saying that the situation with Tom Phillips, there's been a
TV show on that tonight. I don't know how much
information was on there. I think Paddy Gowi Paddy Gower
has spoken to Tom Phillips's sister and now police are
offering up the chants to negotiate and the police's willingness

(21:36):
to discuss Areena comes after his sister spoke on TV.
She called for the Phillips to bring the children home,
saying the friend would help him face any challenges. She
called on both police and her brother to make sure
things ended safely. Saunders said police were pleased the Phillips
family had gone public and called on Tom Phillips to

(21:57):
bring the children home. He said, I think the message
Rossie was putting out we eko that we want this
to end safely. To back that up there that we're
we're referred as Saunders. They're talking to the about the
detective Senior Sergeant Andrew Saunders, who seems to be running
the show asked if his message to Phillips and his

(22:18):
help as was the police are open to a deal
to get him out of here, he replied absolutely. He
declined to go into details of what such a deal
would involve, but the way he was talking, police are
convinced people are helping Phillips stay out in the bush
for his three children. So yeah, that's the last information

(22:40):
there if you want to talk about that also too,
you might have watched the program I haven't seen, and
I've been here twenty five to nine. We are talking
about Tom Phillips, particularly on the basis of the show
that you might have seen tonight. I don't know what
the president would be for negotiating for police, because I
don't think the police would like to. I mean, it's

(23:01):
it's not the police's job to prosecute someone. That's the
justice systems job to do that. So I don't know
how much ability the police have to dictate the terms
on which someone can surrender that would be, because obviously,
if there's been the mean, there's been allegations of well

(23:22):
there's been several allegations that he was involved with I guess,
and you know, you can't drop charges if there's the
evidence to bring those charges through. That would be my
thoughts on that. But so yeah, I don't quite know
how that works or where that conversation takes place. But
the fact that they are prepared to negotiating, what imagine,
means that they think that someone can get the word
to him, which must mean he must have contact with people,

(23:45):
which we've all imagined for a long time. Marcus Patty's
program was really good. I don't think Tom's in the
bush with the kids. I think they're in a few houses.
They swap around. The cops were good and won't hurt Tom.
It's time to bring the kids home. So yeah, it
be very hard to do that to work out how

(24:05):
it could be the number of houses, but yeah, someone
might have some information on that. Yeah, Peter's Marcus, welcome again, Marcus.

Speaker 11 (24:15):
Yeah, I reckon, you're going to negotiate with him because
he's not He's not okay. What he's doing is wrong.

Speaker 4 (24:21):
We all know that.

Speaker 11 (24:22):
The end of the day is he obviously loves those kids.
It's not right what he's doing, but you know, just
get those kids back to the normal lifestyle, and he's
got to They say they's got a firearm, but he
needs that to probably defeed his kids they get shooting
rabbits or whatever, and to say defeed us kids in
that they go to get police got to do something somehow,

(24:44):
and there's not going any prosecutions, And much.

Speaker 3 (24:47):
As they would like to, well there have to be prosecutions. Well,
if you've it's not for the police to If criminality
has been has happened, then those people need to face consequence. Consequences,
don't they?

Speaker 2 (24:57):
Oh, they do.

Speaker 3 (24:58):
But otherwise you could rob something and take people hostages.
They say, okay, well you know if you give yourselves
up that I'm just thinking on the on the spot here,
but that would be that would be my assumption.

Speaker 11 (25:11):
But that so I was saying, if if you're starving
any food to survive, so they could say, well he
breaks into that dairy or whatever reason to get food
for his kids. Okay, it's not right what he did
breaking into that dairy or whatever, but he's getting food
for his kids they need.

Speaker 3 (25:30):
Obviously, You've said about a lot of shoplifting that goes
on though, couldn't you that people are doing it because
they able to feed their kids.

Speaker 11 (25:37):
Yeah, but just get that family back together.

Speaker 3 (25:40):
I think I think the sentiments right, I just don't
quite know the legal process to make that happen. That
would be my thoughts on that.

Speaker 11 (25:46):
Yeah, but somehow get them in if they if he
does bring the kids back, that he still has a
right to see those kids as well, because he's going
he's going to bring them back of a good will.
So they all get the kids back. The kids are
back in a healthy situation.

Speaker 3 (26:02):
I don't think you have custody of those children, would he?

Speaker 12 (26:07):
No?

Speaker 11 (26:07):
Or somehow these probably said he probably know he's going
to He's going to lose that right. So do they
want to carry on for another how long? Or there
they come to some agreement and obviously he means well
for those kids in the wrong way.

Speaker 6 (26:21):
It's not right what he's doing.

Speaker 11 (26:23):
But somehow so he doesn't Also never sees those kids again.
I reckon it's not right either.

Speaker 3 (26:28):
Did you see the show tonight?

Speaker 13 (26:30):
No?

Speaker 6 (26:30):
I didn't know, But I'm just did you know?

Speaker 3 (26:33):
Did you know what was on?

Speaker 13 (26:35):
No?

Speaker 11 (26:35):
I haven't looked as yet. No, I have not.

Speaker 3 (26:37):
No, Yeah, I get to bit of hype. I don't
know if as the show people like to watch or
not that one, No, but I think.

Speaker 11 (26:43):
They just have to get together and say that it's
not right. But in the day it's they can't Those
poor kids now that age, now they should be at
school and doing the you know, not normal kids do.
Just to bring them back to normal reality and just
take the pressure off him. You know that's wrong what
he's did, but just that knock him up somehow. Just
give him back as good as life as he can

(27:04):
for what he's done, without being too high to get
their family.

Speaker 3 (27:09):
Pete, thanks so much that nineteen to nine. Just on
the back of Patrick Gawershaw. I'm just talking about if
you watch that show, and also what you think about
the situation there where the police are going to want
to negotiate with Tom Phillips, whether that will happen, and
now his family have spoken out about telling his sister.
Tom Phillips's sister has said that he needs to bring

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the children back. Gosh, what a remarkable story it has been.
And I think a lot of us have sat home
and thought, cheap as creepers, how big is this country?
What can you do with kids if you can actually
go and fend for yourself and live out in the
bush for such a long time. Although people have asked
questions about whether they are being harbored or quite what

(27:51):
happens there. But even then in a small community, they've
very difficult to do recalling around how she could be
seen through windows and stuff. So, yep, a bizarre circumstance
and hopefully one day that the kids will be fine
and we'll have some details about what's happened. Obviously the
kid's been fine. One is the major one for that.
So yeah, if you want to talk about that. Also
to get in touch. Lines are free if you want

(28:11):
to come through the discussion of but particularly you've seen
that program and say if there's any more information in that,
that would be good. Marcus, the father has denied his
kids liberty and choices. He needs to face the law.
That's from Sue. You know, it'll go viral again four
years missing, with three kids in the bush, it will
get international attention.

Speaker 4 (28:33):
Wow.

Speaker 3 (28:36):
Anyway, get in touch. Oh eight hundred eighty ten eighty
and nine two nine two de text. Welcome to if
you want to come through eight hundred eighty ten eighty
and nine two nine two text. If you want to
be part of it. I'm looking forward to what you've
got to say. Also, talking about the dogs in space
and the Sputneck program, but a talk on it will

(28:57):
no talk so far, but maybe if you've been following
the Air India case, where are we up with that one?
Haven't heard anything about that and by the way too,
but as cheap tomorrow six dollars fifty at night and
day shops whether it's worth me and I don't know
what the limit is per block. It's one per customer,
so it really has been a it's a bit cynical.

(29:19):
They've got twenty thousand blocks, so it's cost them a
bit of money, but huge promotion for night and day,
but should be more. You better off going to Costco,
that'd be my suggestion, and get the whole, get the
whole shooting match falling away from nine catches soon. You're

(29:41):
welcome people, Jennifer, it's Marcus. Good evening, Hi Marcus.

Speaker 14 (29:45):
How are you?

Speaker 3 (29:45):
Good things?

Speaker 14 (29:45):
Jennifer, it's good If I was as a mother and
a grandmother, what he has done is unspeakable and I
think that what he's taken away from their mother can
never be put back. Yeah, she has missed out on
so much of those children's lives, all the cuddles and

(30:10):
the people that have ateed and abetted him. I think
they should be charged as well, because it's I can't
I can't find words for what he has done with
those children and what he's taken away from from them, that.

Speaker 3 (30:30):
It would it would set a very dangerous president of
the police would negotiate with him.

Speaker 14 (30:34):
It's just unspeakable that they would even speak to him.
He's he's an animal in my eyes, He's not a man.
That's not the behavior of a man. That's the behavior
of a savage or an animal.

Speaker 3 (30:51):
I mean, did you did you think that I agreed, Jennifer.
Did you see the show tonight?

Speaker 13 (30:58):
No?

Speaker 14 (30:58):
I didn't, and I wouldn't. It would just make me
so angry. I mean, I am just I just can't
even you know, I can't put words to it, Marcus.

Speaker 3 (31:10):
And that's that's been a common Jennifer. That's been a
common thread for me on the show, is that parents
and grandparents and we're all like that. There's times throughout
the years we just think, oh my god, there's poor kids. Yeah,
and people are.

Speaker 14 (31:23):
Arrest but yeah, and and the fact that it's gone on.

Speaker 15 (31:27):
But I want to swear you can you can you
can swear, God help me what would were going to
use if the if words no worse.

Speaker 14 (31:39):
Than they I can't put it into words, what he
has done. It's just appalling, Marcus, that he could treat
kids like that, and you said that he loved those kids.

Speaker 3 (31:52):
What come on, that's not Jennifer. I don't think I
said that today might be a pooller, but I mean,
and I'm sure that I'm sure there will be a
huge amount of psychological and also if they've been hunted,
they'd be terror and they'd be you know, that would
be psychologically terrifying for them.

Speaker 14 (32:14):
MMed. I mean, it's it's worse than a war. It's
just I can't. I can't put words to it. Marcus.
It's just so disgusting what those kids have been through
with him. I mean, when I saw that little girl
on the back of his motorbike, when he did that

(32:35):
bank robbery or something.

Speaker 3 (32:36):
I don't necessarily know that we know that that bank
robbery was No one's been charged without you. That's the
stuff that I'm sketchy about. Because they don't have him.
They whether they arrest him, but you know, if they
do have evidence to charge him for crimes, then then
it's not the police's job to charge him. It's the
police job to bring charges against it. But then it's
the justice.

Speaker 14 (32:56):
We can't charge them for keeping him in the bush
for four years, can you?

Speaker 6 (33:01):
Well?

Speaker 3 (33:02):
I think you probably could, and I don't. And I
think that's all to do with the terms of what's
the standard termbs of his settlement with the child and
youth and family that we don't know what those agreements. Yeah,
I don't think we know the agreements. That's where it
becomes sketches because it's obviously what happens to children with
custody battles is confidential. So we don't know that, nor

(33:23):
should we.

Speaker 14 (33:23):
But yes, but he's deprived them of so much wonderful things.
They should have been to the movies and had Christmas
and seen the lights and you know, the sort of
things that Walt Disney and all that stuff that you
go through growing up. It's children, they haven't had it,

(33:46):
and we need to pooh and you know what I mean,
markust No children run around dressing up and Nana and
Granddad pulling crackers and all that sort of thing Christmas
and Eastern eggs and you know, putting the tooth theory

(34:07):
and all that stuff that Killi's love and the joy
that they've missed out on. You can't put it back.
He's deprived them of so much. It's just horrible.

Speaker 3 (34:24):
Yeah, I agree, you know, I.

Speaker 14 (34:28):
Just I can't understand how anyone would do that to
their children.

Speaker 3 (34:34):
Yeah, it does say on the tick because people are
saying sending me all sorts of information misinformation through of it.
But I'm just reading reading some of the articles about
that and some of the background to it. I mean,
he did lose custody of the children, and according.

Speaker 14 (34:48):
To the TV why did need to lose custody? For
goodness been a pretty.

Speaker 3 (34:53):
Good reason and that they did say in the article
the police do want to charge him with a robbery.
I think that's what the article I can see here.

Speaker 14 (35:00):
Uh huh. Yeah, but it's the children's minds that are.

Speaker 3 (35:07):
It's Phillips says here. And this Phillips lost custody of
the children, faces more charges in connection with an alleged
bag robbery in t Kuiti. So that's the situation there.

Speaker 14 (35:16):
Yeah, it's a small town. I lived there for a
couple of years.

Speaker 3 (35:21):
How was that for you?

Speaker 14 (35:26):
Where's failed me? I can't talk about it over.

Speaker 3 (35:30):
The road, choosing between tea quity and outre hung, and
that I'd always go with Otreho would alway seem to
be a bit more peppy to me.

Speaker 14 (35:37):
It's right, it's right.

Speaker 3 (35:39):
Always met good people from there, Jennifer, thank you. Five
away from nine. My name is Marcus. Welcome eight hundred
and eighty eight Text Marcus Lawana here. I went to
Auckland a few weeks ago and topped up on Costco butter.
I feel like a butter dealer. Whenever I open my fridge,

(36:00):
I see my stash of butter. There's a forty nine
odd father, three kids. This god deserves to rotten jail.
He's ruining the kids' lives. If he hasn't already one
day later in life, when his children have fused to
have anything to do with him, he may just realize
how selfish he is, say Marc, I understand why the
police haven't sent the army in as a training to
find them and bring him to justice. Well, as I

(36:22):
explained beforehand, it would be a real volatile situation. He
has got firearms. I don't know what's going to happen.
I don't know the guy. I don't know the circumstances.
But you know, if you don't want to be found,
you've got children there, you would use them as you
could use them as human shield, hostages, all sorts of stuff.
I'm not saying that would be their concern, but they'd
be thinking about all those scenarios. Yeah, so there's that,

(36:46):
but certainly a lot of the Bush Telegraph with rumors
that people are sending in. I'd just like to deal
with the fact pretty much. But yes, if you've also
seen the show tonight, let us know how that was.
They've been missing since December twenty twenty one, and now
I believe that Tom Phillips's mother has written a letter saying, Tom,

(37:09):
I feel really sad that you thought you had to
do this now considering how much we love you and
you it hurts every time I see photes of the
children of you and see some of your stuff that
are still there here thinking what could have been if
you had not gone away. So whether that's going to
change anything, I don't know. I guess time will tell.
But eight hundred and eighty ten eighty nine to the text,

(37:31):
if you want to come through, of course. He was
charged with wasting police resources for previous disappearance with the
kids in September of twenty twenty one, an eighty thousand
dollars reward and frequent searchers have puved approved futile. They
understand others are helping him stay off the grid. I

(37:52):
don't know how they cook, because you think you cook,
you'd see fire. They stay down in caves. Greetings, welcome,
How are you guys? Eight past nine Marcus, till midnight
to night. A couple of lines, they're free. If you
want to get in touch, you'll pick it up. You
don't know what we are talking about, variety of different things,
but feel free to come through. Eight hundred and eighty
eight and nine to nine to the text. I'm just

(38:12):
watching the player that down the baseball in the US
when a guy hit the ball and the cover came off,
made for a very difficult throw at Connor. Marcus.

Speaker 12 (38:20):
Welcome, Marcus, How are we good?

Speaker 3 (38:24):
Connor? What's happening.

Speaker 16 (38:26):
I'm just on my way home from the cooking class again.
I called up last week.

Speaker 3 (38:30):
Oh you rang last week? You said it was a
Mediterranean steir fried. Next it was a Malaysian stu fras it.

Speaker 8 (38:35):
Oh, yeah, you know what?

Speaker 10 (38:36):
I have him I am.

Speaker 16 (38:39):
I absolutely frozen when I found.

Speaker 8 (38:40):
Out I was on the air.

Speaker 3 (38:41):
Oh you know, I can imagine I I cocked it up.

Speaker 16 (38:45):
But do you know what we're here? We're prep here
this week?

Speaker 3 (38:49):
You know this is in christ Jurch.

Speaker 8 (38:52):
This is in christ Church.

Speaker 16 (38:53):
Yet Petnoy High School. I'll tell you what if it
took from Mark from Comba Cuisine does this class, So
everyone get around them.

Speaker 6 (39:01):
If you want to learn how to cook somethe you've
got to be listening to the singing.

Speaker 3 (39:04):
Why earth am I not doing this? Because it just
sounds fantastic?

Speaker 16 (39:07):
Oh it's great, it's great.

Speaker 10 (39:10):
Hi, oh mate, I am, I am.

Speaker 16 (39:14):
We We did a cabbage pancake tonight, a Japanese dish
accompanied by a noodle salad. It was unreal.

Speaker 3 (39:21):
Would you make that again at home?

Speaker 4 (39:24):
Yeah?

Speaker 16 (39:24):
To be honest, Out of all of the dishes were
done so far, it's probably the one I'm most likely
to talk again.

Speaker 3 (39:29):
Could be quite straightforward to cabbage pancake.

Speaker 16 (39:32):
Oh easy, easy flour, eggs for the seasoning, snack from
cabbage in there, pit of bacon on type.

Speaker 4 (39:39):
Where you go?

Speaker 16 (39:39):
Mate?

Speaker 3 (39:40):
What's next week?

Speaker 8 (39:42):
We're not too sure, man.

Speaker 16 (39:43):
We get the recipes on a sort of Saturday Sunday
the week before, so it's a bit of a surprise.

Speaker 3 (39:49):
It goes, it goes all term, does it.

Speaker 17 (39:52):
Oh yeah, yeah, so.

Speaker 16 (39:53):
I think we've only got two or three weeks left
for that to come to an end.

Speaker 8 (39:57):
But oh it's been a great class.

Speaker 3 (39:59):
Good mail and good male and female mix.

Speaker 16 (40:04):
Yeah, man, yeah, there is.

Speaker 6 (40:05):
Actually I think most people are.

Speaker 3 (40:07):
Going to night classes to meet a partner, aren't they.
Ah No, not really, Like I think it's a.

Speaker 16 (40:14):
Most of the adults in our class are all sort
of a partner that.

Speaker 3 (40:19):
Okay, yeah, we'll let us know what next week is, Connor,
I'm excited about that. Ten past nine oh eight, one
hundred and eighty twenty nine. I won't be doing mince
on toast. We've got to afford the mints. That's, by
the way. Mince is the new butter. Mince is the
thing everyone's complaining how expensive it's got, because mince used

(40:39):
to be cheap and cheerful, not anymore. Marks I understand
why the poice haven't said in the Army of Training
to find them and bring them to justice. The mother
has legal custody, I'm sure many years ago. If I've
done what he's done, there'd be no second chance. I
would have got a long prison sentence. I'm just so
blind away that he could be at large all this
time and not get caught. It's really disgrace to our

(41:02):
police department. I don't nessarily know that we do know
the exact details of the family court I know that
he no longer had sole custody. It's talking about Tom Phillips.
If you're looking at the Wikipedia page, it does say
that he was homeschooling the kids until the custody arrangement changed,

(41:25):
So that seems to be what's gone on there. Yeah,
but get in touch if you want to talk the
numbers eight hundred and eighty, ten eighty and nine to
nine to detext films have been separated from his wife
kef of the several years, and was homeschooling this children children. Yeah,
and then I think there was a family court situation,
or certainly I think it does say that he has

(41:46):
not got custody for his children now and then he
went bush. A lot of speculation, a lot of people
not really knowing what's going on. That's partly because with
the family court cases, you can't know what's gone on
for obvious reasons, because it's no one's business, I would think.
So that's the situation, you know. I do get in
touch if you want to. The numbers eight hundred eighty

(42:07):
ten eighty and nine two nine to text. Also talking
about dogs in space, how to learn to fly, the
hercules and the flight trainers that have come to New Zealand.
Also snow on some of the roads tonight. There is speculation,
not speculation forecasting. There will be snow on the Desert Road,

(42:32):
the Napier Topol Road and the lim Attaka Hill Road
overnight tonight. So if you've seen that, let us know.
Oh eight hundred eighty ten eighty and nine two nine
two to text email me. Also Marcus attnewstalk ZB dot
co dot NZ. By the way, the pollen plume has
come early this year. It's been seen over Nelson, so

(42:55):
I know some people get freaked out by the pollen
nevern know there was such a thing as a pollen plume,
but it's on its way. Massive plume of pollen over
Rabid Island. Marry, this is Marcus welcome.

Speaker 13 (43:12):
I was it a dairy. This is when his drama
went down and I was in a passenger seat in
a car and he pulled up alongside me. Well he
went into the dairy. I would say it was his
son in the back seat of the car and right

(43:33):
beside me.

Speaker 18 (43:34):
I mean.

Speaker 13 (43:37):
Memory, Yeah, the meverick, the son and he went in
there got whatever and the little followers but agitated and that,
and then.

Speaker 4 (43:52):
They jarrive off.

Speaker 3 (43:54):
How long ago was this scary?

Speaker 13 (43:58):
This will be in the first stage of it? What
was that back in.

Speaker 3 (44:04):
Twenty twenty one? Correct aff?

Speaker 13 (44:06):
Yeah, yeah, back in those days when it was all
us drama was gone on?

Speaker 3 (44:12):
Was that utra hunger or.

Speaker 13 (44:15):
Uh to cook that little giry out there? Yeah? And
and you were talking about smoke and the bush or whatever. Yes,
well there's a way around that. But that need to

(44:36):
help doing it, wouldn't.

Speaker 3 (44:37):
I what's the way around it? Yes, yeah, a great point,
very obvious points.

Speaker 13 (44:46):
Yes, And then you wouldn't be seen, You wouldn't see smoke,
would you know.

Speaker 3 (44:50):
It's a very good point. You just get swap a
great swapper bottles dropped off at a designated you need
outside help, but you could swap bottles and drop them
off places you could carry those in. They could be
quite easily to dropped off somewhere for a good point.

Speaker 13 (45:03):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, had thought that.

Speaker 3 (45:06):
I had thought of that, Gary. But yeah, it's completely smokeless,
isn't it.

Speaker 13 (45:09):
Yes, yes, yes, enough, I've been getting all that help.
Will a time next. Yeah well there, yeah, you and
not just put that together.

Speaker 3 (45:18):
Yeah, but but but I imagine, I mean, if you
if you're you know, whether you could use firearms to
catch game. I'm not sure because people would hear that though,
although there would be other people hunting, whether they're trapping
or Yeah, I don't know what you know, I don't
know how you do that.

Speaker 19 (45:33):
Some some.

Speaker 13 (45:37):
Or pig hunters or deer hunters come across them, and
the bust one part of it, right, yeah. Yeah, So
he's got a cousin that looks so identical to him too.

Speaker 3 (45:50):
Oh you know you know the fair you know the
that's that's how you recognize when you saw him, the
deary you'd recognized him because you knew him.

Speaker 6 (45:56):
Is that right?

Speaker 13 (46:00):
That's too much way back in earlier days. Year. I
won't say anymore. Okay, Yeah, one of those cousins works
for my brother, yep, but I won't say anymore.

Speaker 3 (46:14):
He will look alier, okay, appreciate that, Goth. Thanks, it's
a good, good thought that about the guests. I hadn't
thought about that, so that's a really logical thing. Sixteen
past nine, eighteen past eighteen past nine. If you watch
that show, do give us a call as well. Hi,
Dean Marcus welcome.

Speaker 20 (46:31):
Yeah, Hi, And just relating to your talking about Minstein
very expensive, which is true, but I'm just giving a
bit of advice to the general customer. It's actually better
to go to your local butcher to get your meat
rather than the supermarket. I find nowadays actually got a
better range and the prices are much more reasonable. What
would that be, I don't know, but local butchers are

(46:51):
very good. I found Winning Point chiev and they've got
even got Coumbra chips which you go five and you
get a tiny little bundle for about six dollars, and
they got to not that I need that many, but
you can freedom get a three. Found last week got
a three kilo bag of Combra chips betweeny dollars, which
I put was amazing.

Speaker 3 (47:07):
It's not bad because it cost you fifteen dollars just
for three kilos of Kubera.

Speaker 20 (47:12):
Yeah, but I'm just saying the local butchers do meet
us good and lot approach.

Speaker 3 (47:16):
It's really good advice. I love the butcher. We don't
have any local butchers and vocat with the Supermaros.

Speaker 20 (47:21):
A few around, but they are I'm saying that creaming
and butchers are expensive, but the local ones. A lot
of people do use the local ones rather than.

Speaker 3 (47:30):
The Dean what.

Speaker 6 (47:32):
Dean, what, I'm pretty cheap Sean.

Speaker 3 (47:34):
What I was saying is I live at the South Island.
When the supermarkets came and all the butchers left town.
It seems have you tried the new supermarket opened today?

Speaker 20 (47:43):
I have passed it just opened, a new world and
point Chivo noticed and went past their way, but haven't
been in. But it's just opened.

Speaker 3 (47:49):
Yeah, people say it's quite good, but new world. That's
the price there end, isn't that new wields more like?

Speaker 20 (47:54):
We think it's considering more expensively considerably?

Speaker 3 (47:58):
Thank you pretty past nine Jan Market's welcome. Hi Marc, good,
thank you Jen, thanks for asking.

Speaker 19 (48:08):
I wanted to tell you last night about hitting my
thumb with the hammer accidentally.

Speaker 3 (48:14):
Of course did you do it last night?

Speaker 19 (48:17):
No? Several times well at the renovating thousands and I
take Arnica straight away and stops the pain, stops the inflammation,
and I don't have to drill holes and nails or anything.
So I just sort of pass that tip on. Okay,

(48:38):
it's good to have nica. Andy. When you're building.

Speaker 3 (48:41):
Doing stuffy, do you lose your nails?

Speaker 19 (48:46):
No, nothing happens. Okay, it just stays normal. Okay, it's amazing.
So you had I done it any time. It should
do when you're holding a little nail and trying to
hit it with the hammer. Yes, anyway, and about to

(49:07):
if you get Gang Green and you're tells an, I've
had to take a patient to feel to have a
league cattle because of Gang Green. And you can actually
treat Gang Green with tea tree. Yeah, save your league.

Speaker 3 (49:26):
So the imputation is not needed.

Speaker 19 (49:31):
No, show me still doing it.

Speaker 3 (49:35):
It comes good. It'll come as good news to people. Jen,
thank you for that. Twenty two past nine, Bob Marcus.

Speaker 19 (49:40):
Welcome here.

Speaker 4 (49:42):
Marcus. So I brought up to two children, one girl,
one boy. And if he's got a twelve year old
girl out on the bush, there certainly needs a twelve
year old girl needs so obviously someone is helping him. Yeah, sure,
someone must be helping a guy. There's no way that
he can bring up those kids. But the kids needs
in the bush without getting a help.

Speaker 3 (50:03):
And I don't necessarily know what charges ius. I mean,
I guess you can charge people for aiding and a
betting someone. That's what that's Yeah, I don't fully know
what those charges would be.

Speaker 4 (50:12):
No, because as I say, they think that kids need Yeah, yes,
you know. So someone's helping him somewhere.

Speaker 3 (50:23):
I wonder how their communication is working. Oh, he's gone,
Bob's dropped off. Apologize for that. Get in touch. Eight
hundred and eighty eight. Hi, Marcus. They say he robbed
the bank. There must be shops in the bush. I
think there was wanted to see him about the a
shop that was robbed that's called the t V in

(50:44):
dead Story. Clearly it wasn't in the bush. But yeah,
twenty three past nine. Oh, by the way, there's other
news around the world. I will keep you updated about that.
I was asking if people had seen that situation with
Patrick Gower tonight and for those that do need to
know the night and day Stoore will be selling butter

(51:07):
for six dollars fifty tomorrow. But it's just one like
I always want to say loaf. It's just one. What
do you say a butt? One packet of slice loaf
pound packet, one packet of butter per person, and that
is going to cost you six dollars fifty. So it

(51:28):
depends how close to wid to one if you want
to waste the pet. I think you're heard off going
to costco. If you're in Auckland, you get massives there
and they still seem to have it. It wasn't just
a It's gone on and on and on that one.
So good on them for doing that. Twenty four past nine.
If you want to talk Marcus Still twelve. Just a
bit of a background on Tom Phillips from the article

(51:49):
from our n Z. It says during the fruit this
is from When's that from Dan? It's from a while ago,
is it? October twenty twenty four. During his first appearance,
Saunders said police did not consider custody was the likely
motive when Tom went missing. He had looked he had
lawful custody of the children. Saundas said police now believe

(52:11):
it's possible Phillips Use's first disappearance as a preparation for
his next. Yes, it certainly it's certainly that goes into
our thinking that that could have been a warm up
to what he has done now. He was charged with
wasteful deployment of police resources, but failed to turn up
to its court appearance and once again disappeared into the
bush with his three children. Once once he failed to

(52:34):
appear and court on what he had been charged with.
And that's obviously after the current disappearance of arrest, a
warrant to arrest was issued. Saunder's revealed Phlips so long
had custody of the children. Custody now sits with Oranga
Tamariki and they have made arrangements for when the children
are located as to where they will go. We believe
it's over custody. I know there's been various opinions out there,

(52:54):
including the fact that it may be COVID related. From
our point of view, this is straight up about custody
of the children. And the article says the Herald cannot
report further details about the custody of the Phillips children
because that's the finding of the children's courts, and that's
always clipt that's that's no one's business, and they do
well to keep that one quiet. That's a situation. That's

(53:16):
those information where I talk about Tom Phillips, and now
his sister has spoken on TV and the letter has
been read from his mother with people wanting obviously people
would be desperate to see their grandchildren and nephew nephews
and nieces and stuff. I would have menagine that's the

(53:38):
latest on that one. Twenty six past nine. Get in touch.
If you want to talk about this topic or any
other topics that we are talking about, you are more
than welcome to come through. The number is eight hundred
and eighty ten eighty. If you want to text, it's
nine to nine to the more the marya Hetel twelve.
So yeah, let's be hearing from you. If there's something

(54:00):
else you want to talk about tonight, how's your DNA
testing going? DNA and me and all those those ones,
I'd avoid them like the plague, only because I wouldn't
want someone to sell my DNA because these companies go
bankrupt and then people can build exact copies of yourself
because they've got your recipe basically. But what they are

(54:21):
saying with the DNA and me and those people that
they reckon now, between three and four percent of all
people one of their parents. Normally the father is not
who they think they are. So yeah, there's been some
difficult discussions, a lot of podcasts about this now and
a lot of also people are seeking counseling because they've
spent their whole life thinking their father of someone and

(54:41):
actually they've done DNA and men found that their father
is actually someone else, and they reckon. That's quite a
big thing to come to terms with, I can imagine. So, yes,
that's the whole twenty three and me thing or the
old DNA thing. You might want to talk about that
as well. Block of butdy it doesn't sound right. Block
of but it sounds like it should be a cake
or a loaf, block of bus Anyway, someone said, what's

(55:04):
the latest on kim dot com? Well, I've only I've
got no insight all on that one. I've only got
the papers to read on that one. He had a stroke,
I think, and he moved down to need Tonedin. I
think he's moved back to Queenstown. I think probably he
is still trying to recover from the stroke. And I
don't think it was when she've had a stroke. It

(55:24):
takes a while. That's the latest. I know, I don't
know where we are with the extradition. Someone else might
have some more information on that. I don't have any
I could google it up, but you could do that yourselves. Oh,
eight hundred and eighty ten, nineteen nine, two decks. We
are talking about Tom Phillips and about surprise is when
you get DNA testing. The two of the things we
are talking about so far. And if that's something you

(55:48):
want to talk about, love to hear from you. There's
something else in different you want to mention and talk about.

Speaker 13 (55:53):
Good.

Speaker 3 (55:55):
You gotta love the Danes. This was a story from
a couple of days ago about the Danish zoo, where
they are asking for pets to feed to the animals,
but one Danish mother for a practice her teenage's daughter,
or her teenage daughter is not her teenage daughter. Her
teenage daughter's pony was suffering too much to go on,

(56:19):
so she chose unusual for farewell, donating him to Alberg
Zoo to feed the lions. The pony, called Chicago fifty seven,
could no longer live comfortably. At twenty two. He suffered
exma caused by mosquitoes and bites, leaving open wounds and
forcing him to wear protective covering rather than arranging euthanasia

(56:40):
through a vet. Soul gave her daughter the choice, and
the thirteen year old Angelina decided the zoo option made
the most sense, preferring a pony to benefit other animals
rather than be taken away for disposal. I don't have
a problem with that. I guess the zoos probably would

(57:01):
have a problem, as long as you're not pressuring people
to take their pets. Marcus, it's a pat of butter,
you know. That reminds me of Big Paddy from the
Mighty Pucketinger prezzes rugby team last game this week and
up the rugger, Johnny comms, Marcus, you should make it
clear than when the DNA tests show a different father,

(57:24):
it's probably the mother's fault and the father doesn't know.

Speaker 19 (57:28):
Oh.

Speaker 3 (57:28):
I think most people would understand that, although what also
happened too is it's sometimes it can be a surrogate
egg and sometimes it can be a surrogate father. They
haven't wanted a child to know, and I don't know
much about surrogacy. If the father, if they used a
donor for the father, then probably the families would have

(57:50):
every right to not tell the child that I don't
know how that works with surrogacy. I don't know if
that's the right term surrogacy, but when you get the
supumination from the father, it's probably quite within I'm sure
plenty of people don't want the family to know, don't
want the key to know, so that might be something
you want to talk about tonight. I find that pretty

(58:10):
interesting if you want to come through about that also,
But what really I've always been very and look, I
don't think I've any secrets in my life, but I've
always been very weary of those DNA tests, not because
of I don't want to discover any secrets. But you know,
some of those companies have gone broke since and they've
sold all their information to other companies. You don't know

(58:32):
what the other companies will do with that information, but
they could start making replicas of you. Maybe not now,
but maybe in ten years time. Freaks me out of it,
But yes, I don't necessarily know that. You say it's
the mother's fault, but not from families. There is deception,

(58:53):
So yes, if you want to mention that also tonight,
twenty five way from ten two, we've got those planes
arriving tomorrow. I can tell you more about that. There
are United States Air Force C five M super Galaxy
will be landing at Orione and EF Base tomorrow Wednesday,
August twentieth. The aircraft is carrying the first of two

(59:16):
deliveries of parts for the Sea one thirty Hercules simulator.
The aircraft will be unloaded the following day. It's interesting
to bring out over by. Maybe that's part of the
deal you get when you buy the hercules kit that
they'll deliver them. Could you think that would come by ship?
Wouldn't you a big thing like that. It's interesting they've
actually because it must be a huge cost to charte
one of those planes where they're delivering it as part

(59:37):
of their favor. I don't know what goes on with that.
You might know some more twenty four to ten.

Speaker 6 (59:43):
Oh.

Speaker 3 (59:43):
The other thing about those DNA tests, that you've got
to be mindflow also, that's probably I don't know if
there is a reason to do it or a reason
not to do it, but I would imagine that probably
a great deal of the unsolved murders they've sold around
the world in recent years have all come through the
DNA database, so they can use a sample from a

(01:00:06):
crime and they can even though the perpetrator is not
in their database, they can find enough relatives to cast
the net and get that person and that's led to
a number of convictions. That's why it's great that the
I think we've even seen that situation too, with that
rood of that child and Evandale that happened in the eighties,
that the nineteen eighties. Obviously they are now thinking that
they perhaps might be able to solve that one, and

(01:00:29):
that would be because of that they have the data
base that would have enough information to solve that. So
I guess for some reason that could be a positive
reason to do that, but it would perhaps mean that
it would be a member of your family that gets
arrested for those crimes. So yeah, I think people have
gone more quiet on those testing. It's even talking about it.
For a while back, it was everyone was doing it.

(01:00:49):
But you're just wondering if you've had any nasty surprises
with that or how that's gone for you. Apparently there's
a lot of podcasts that feature people that were found
the wrong way or found things about the family didn't
want anyway. Marcus, I'm seventy six years old, and but
has always been a pound of butter since I left
Score the age often and worked in the GHB supermarket
and Milton. That's from keV. Well, I think it's a

(01:01:12):
pound of butter. Now, how is it five hundred? How
much butter? Is it four hundred mills or five hundred mills?
How much is in't that? I don't know if it
is a pound because what's the pound in grams? I'm
sure there's a bit of shrink flation there also four
or five three, So it's but at now four hundred
grams or five hundred grams I think recently seen it

(01:01:34):
might be both. I'll google that up too, But yeah,
if you want to talk on here, we also talk
about Tom Phillips, if you want to mention him. They're
now looking at perhaps doing a deal for him. I
can't see straight away if it's four hundred or five
hundred mills in the butter? What's anchor? Anchor me? Well,
the type's too small for me to see. What five

(01:01:54):
hundred grams? So it's more than a pound, isn't it?

Speaker 4 (01:01:58):
Anyway?

Speaker 3 (01:01:58):
Nineteen away from nine looking forward to your calls people,
if there's something different you want to mention tonight. Bring
it on. It might be something entirely different enough at
you dogs in space. I enjoyed talking about because today
is the day that the two dogs came back from
space in nineteen sixty. They went on and had many
young pups, some which were given to the Kennedys. Don't
there we give dogs to well? Do does give people

(01:02:20):
dogs anymore? Which is a shame. But yes, it was
this day in nineteen sixty that the two dogs, Strelker
and Belka, became the first living beans to survive in space.
I think they went three times around the globe. Beverage
long at midnight tonight. If you want to be a
part of that, Laurie Marcus, welcome at the simulators.

Speaker 2 (01:02:44):
It's funny today. I think Judis Collins opened the big
new building at Ohakia which for the Poseidon the aircraft,
and they haven't quite got their simulators. I think they're
going to be there in twenty twenty six, that they'll
be set up. But the sea Fi they coming to

(01:03:06):
bringing the Lockheed stuff to Auckland. They have been using
them the Americans or for deep freeze the early flights
the Antarctic of recent years. I still are basically, which
is pretty long life when there's previously when some of

(01:03:28):
the very large deliveries for being made to hockey. I
think when they got the new helicopters in some other
year they happened to use those very large Russian aircraft.

Speaker 3 (01:03:36):
I love those. They're amazing looking things, aren't they.

Speaker 2 (01:03:39):
And I think some of them actually came to Grief
early in the Ukraine War with Ukraine. I think they
destroyed a couple on the ground, but I think there
has been one since that time. Come to New Zealand. Yeah,
they're amazing aeroplanes. As it happened, well see five they

(01:04:02):
I think the first came out in nineteen seventy.

Speaker 4 (01:04:05):
Now.

Speaker 2 (01:04:06):
I was working for a surveying engineering company in England
in nineteen sixty nine and we had the job of
surveying which the main Air Force base Americans used place
called Milden Hall in Cambridgeshire, and we were serving the
runway in preparation for the arrival of the five as,

(01:04:30):
which would be a year later. So that's a hell
of a duration. I mean they call them a super
galaxy now, but I mean that's they've had of that type.
It's a long time isn't it. Yeah, an interesting sideline
in that Cold War. While we'll were working on that.
At that base, they had all sorts of aircraft, bombers

(01:04:54):
and stuff like that there, and we had access to
the runway during the day and this st sort of mood.
You know, they would had scheduled services. So that said,
they put a sirehen i that they we needed to
get off the runway something coming in. Well, one the
a bomber came in and landed a sleeper siren off

(01:05:17):
every everything cleared. In fact, we were just off to
the side and this thing eventually came to a halt,
stopped at as quick as they could, and then all
the crew leaped out the doors, down the chutes and
everything jumped out and ran like hell and dived in
the drains around the edge, around the edge of the airport,

(01:05:44):
which we thought, well, perhaps we'd better followed seats. They
know something that we don't.

Speaker 3 (01:05:49):
It a drill, No, no, it was.

Speaker 6 (01:05:57):
It wanted a drill.

Speaker 2 (01:05:58):
It was an scheduled sort of either something was beeping
or thinking away and yeah, and what happened then the
sirens kept going. It's funny here in those days, they
actually cleared the whole body, countryside clothes, the villages and
all sorts of stuff. We were actually working and living

(01:06:20):
on the building wall base at the time, so nobody
was allowed off basically, and they left it. That's sort
of the Eventually somebody approached the craft again and to
diffuse whatever they thought was there anyway, but nothing got
in the media, you know. What they could get away

(01:06:41):
with in those days were sort of it wasn't.

Speaker 3 (01:06:43):
Reported, so we're still nonetherwise. Laurie, thank you for that.
Nice to hear from you. Oscar. This is Marcus.

Speaker 6 (01:06:50):
Welcome Marcus.

Speaker 21 (01:06:53):
How are you mate?

Speaker 3 (01:06:54):
Thanks Oscar. What's happening?

Speaker 21 (01:06:56):
Oh, not too much. Just one of the boys up
as Kadrona.

Speaker 3 (01:07:01):
Oh wow, have you got so.

Speaker 7 (01:07:07):
Going to get that off?

Speaker 22 (01:07:09):
Sorry?

Speaker 21 (01:07:10):
Yeah, just must a few shout out to wanted to
touch base.

Speaker 3 (01:07:14):
Okay, this is good. What's the temperature there now?

Speaker 21 (01:07:19):
About meg three?

Speaker 3 (01:07:20):
Okay?

Speaker 21 (01:07:22):
Yeah, no, we have we had a bit of weather
rolled through last night, yesterday and last night through today
a little bit. Yeah, so big group of happy cat
operators up here pushing some nice snow around.

Speaker 3 (01:07:34):
Okay, So normally I mean you can only even even
with your snowmakers, you can only make snow when it's
zero degrees?

Speaker 6 (01:07:40):
Is that right?

Speaker 21 (01:07:43):
No, not entirely. You can make and plus degrees if
the humidity allows. Stars really need to align. But yeah,
that does. That does happen that in plus degrees and
very low humidity when the air is very dry and
still you get the hang time and you can you
can still make snow.

Speaker 3 (01:08:03):
So how many times do you go to work in
the snow? Work to do because the conditions aren't right
to make snow?

Speaker 21 (01:08:10):
Look, it's our workers were the dependent. But when there's
a lot of snow, there's a lot of work. And
when there's less snow, you kind of have to work
hard in a different way to maintain sort of what
you have. You have to work more gently, and you
know you're working with smaller amounts, so you need to
sort of still shuffle them all around and that that

(01:08:31):
can take longer.

Speaker 3 (01:08:32):
Okay, So even if you're not even if you're not
making snow, oh you guys, so you're just grooming and
doing that, not just but you're grooming and doing stuff
like that, aren't you.

Speaker 4 (01:08:42):
Yep?

Speaker 21 (01:08:43):
Yep, that's exactly what we're doing, is sort of yeah,
shifting shifting the snow around and then making a surface
out of it for everyone.

Speaker 4 (01:08:49):
To come up and joy?

Speaker 3 (01:08:50):
How many how many of you up there every night?

Speaker 5 (01:08:54):
Uh?

Speaker 21 (01:08:56):
Six or seven?

Speaker 3 (01:08:57):
Okay? And how much how much longer you expected to
be working?

Speaker 21 (01:09:05):
Are with the snowfall? And we are in the FROs
Is building a twenty two foot half fight will probably
be going through till about three or four tonight, okay?

Speaker 3 (01:09:18):
And how long? How much long do I think the
season will go for?

Speaker 7 (01:09:22):
Uh?

Speaker 21 (01:09:23):
Well, there's every indication now that you know, every every
bit of snow helps and this will this will help
us along. Our closing day is the sixth of October.

Speaker 3 (01:09:33):
It's quite a long time, isn't it.

Speaker 21 (01:09:36):
Well, yeah, I mean it's a short season compared to summer.

Speaker 3 (01:09:39):
You know, I always think, I always think by time
September comes along, it's all over, because that's what I
just think, that's when the spring comes. But you guys
go for a bit longer than that, Ain't.

Speaker 21 (01:09:49):
It's interesting you say that, Mark. I think all of
New Zealands thinks that being stopped in September it definitely
quiet and down up here. And yeah, I think it's
a brilliant Tommy, you had to be up in the mountains.
You know, you get the long days, you can still
get off the hill and enjoy other things. And it's yeah,
great time here for be in the mountains.

Speaker 3 (01:10:09):
Oh you guys, thanks for chicking and chicken before the
end of the season. If you would ask you good
to hear from you, really good to hear from here.
We go working tonight, leaving away from ten. This is
Marcus Harry.

Speaker 22 (01:10:20):
Welcome homebo Markers.

Speaker 2 (01:10:23):
How are you doing that?

Speaker 13 (01:10:24):
Good?

Speaker 3 (01:10:24):
Thank you Harry.

Speaker 4 (01:10:26):
Oh that's good.

Speaker 22 (01:10:28):
The man that was mentioning the Antonov aircraft, Yes, it's
not a Russian aircraft.

Speaker 3 (01:10:36):
Writ in tel thank you.

Speaker 22 (01:10:38):
It is a fantastic Ukrainian aircraft.

Speaker 4 (01:10:45):
Five.

Speaker 3 (01:10:45):
It's important, isn't it.

Speaker 22 (01:10:47):
It's very important. The Russians blew the only other model
on the ground, that about eighteen months twenty months ago,
I think it was. But there's an outfit. Chapman Freeborn
have one and that's used exclusively for charters. And the

(01:11:08):
thing can lift off the ground about two hundred and
fifty tons in its belly and it's got an eighty
I think it's eighty eight meter.

Speaker 3 (01:11:19):
Are you telling me there's only two of them ever built?

Speaker 14 (01:11:22):
Oh?

Speaker 22 (01:11:22):
No, they're built several but I think what I think
one crashed and one had well, one had a major accident,
one got blown up in Ukraine, and there's only one
flying and that's the only one out there is a
smaller one, the one two five out there somewhere and

(01:11:45):
that that that's a smaller aircraft. It picks up about
one hundred and twenty ton.

Speaker 3 (01:11:51):
This is this is this is new information washing over me.
Is the one that's used commercially? Is that privately owned?

Speaker 8 (01:11:57):
Now?

Speaker 4 (01:11:58):
I think it.

Speaker 22 (01:11:59):
I think it's privately owned by Chapman Freeborn.

Speaker 3 (01:12:03):
Okay, that's what you said. I don't know. And he's
a he's a space entrepreneurs.

Speaker 22 (01:12:09):
Well, there's somebody that does charter flights, because they've flown
into Auckland in recent times. I think they come in
through Auckland to a hockey in recent times. They had
a landing here. I'm not sure how long ago, but
I saw it land at Prestwick Airport in Scotland a
number of years ago and it is one hang of

(01:12:31):
an aircraft. Once she comes down those six turbofan engines. Man,
they got a row to them and it's a beautiful
aircraft to watch it really is.

Speaker 3 (01:12:42):
And for those times they don't know wheels down it's
got a huge number one, two, three, four. Has it
got fourteen wheels, seven on each side at the main
part of its fuselage and then two up the front.
Have I got that right?

Speaker 22 (01:12:54):
I think I think it's that. I think when i'm
I think it's got twenty.

Speaker 3 (01:13:00):
Yeah, okay, big one yep.

Speaker 22 (01:13:04):
But when they land in the Ukraine or in Siberia
or anywhere that's cold, they have to keep the thing
running because they can't have.

Speaker 4 (01:13:15):
It get cold.

Speaker 10 (01:13:16):
They've got to keep it warm.

Speaker 22 (01:13:19):
Otherwise it gets stuck. It's a it's a highly it's
a highly technical aircraft in that sense, you've got you've
got to keep it flying. That's the big trick with
those things.

Speaker 3 (01:13:31):
Do you know what it was originally built certain you
know what it was originally built for.

Speaker 22 (01:13:36):
It was originally built to lift ull off the Russian
spacecraft when they were part of the Soviet Union. They
used to piggyback We used to piggyback a craft up
the yeah okay, yeah, something like the Shuttle. But it
was an amazing it is just such an amazing aircraft.

(01:14:00):
Always been fascinated by jumbo jets, you know, the seven
four seven, the four hundred, eight hundreds and stuff. I've
always been fascinated by them, but nothing prepares you for that.
And the other rearcraft that blows me away is watching
an airbus A three eighty coming off the ground. I
saw it in Auckland about three years ago.

Speaker 8 (01:14:23):
Unbelievably beautiful.

Speaker 3 (01:14:26):
Nice to hear from me, Harry Fan. Thanks for that
point of order too. Of course it's Ukrainian Stuart's Marcus.

Speaker 10 (01:14:31):
Welcome again, o Margas boy. That was interesting about those aircraft. Yeah,
so I'm hitting home there after. Echo Hunter rab it
round again tonight, even though in these weather conditions that's
ette shocking. But I just this is a guy here.
We are making the snow. As I came off State
Hiway one and into Johnson Roll and it was hailing,

(01:14:54):
and I came through the street to john Thall and
the gathers are absolutely full of hail stones and you
could literally ski on the road here in johns th Ull.
So he can come and groom roads, roads of you lights.
But now I'm in Nio and it's not even that
wet here, and no.

Speaker 3 (01:15:12):
Is that Twellington for you isn't it. Do you hearing
much kiwi up where you go?

Speaker 10 (01:15:18):
The kiwi and this is something that's cust to my heart.
Are Capital Kiwi Project releasing kiwi into the south coast
of Wellington from Sheppers going near Karu Lights and they
have been reported up as far as Johnsonville and broad Meadows,
coming up to people's decks. I think got there along
Milk Carl Carl, which is just right behind Nio. I'm

(01:15:39):
actually looking up at the power at the TV transmitting
power up in Nio now. And then there was some
paper the other day about a kiwi going down into
either Arrow Valley or excuse me or Brooklyn Valley.

Speaker 3 (01:15:56):
It's great.

Speaker 10 (01:15:57):
They're taking they're taking over, they're moving around, and you know,
people have got to make a decision about whether they
want cats in the backyards or kiwis have were I
get to that point pretty soon where the two things
are compatible, and you know, you either give her your cats.
You can watch the kiwis on your lord.

Speaker 3 (01:16:14):
Or shoe or I've got I've got to go. The
other thing is people get a ketti. Oh, by the way,
I'm still waiting to hear the latest about the ire
India disaster. I don't know if anyone's been on YouTube
it's got any kind of where we are with that one,
because the comment's gone quiet, isn't it. It feels like
it's gone quite for about a month. Anyway, I just
put it out there. It's to be our talking about planes.
The number is eight hundred and eighty ten eighty. That

(01:16:38):
doesn't change. It takes me on nine to nine to
seven past ten, Davy, it's Marcus. Welcome, Oh you can Marcus.

Speaker 17 (01:16:47):
I'm just a follow from your previous quarter about the
inter and of spoken to you previously. I was in
Ukraine just before the war and if you saw the
int and of two to five the mirror, and it
was at the Boris Ball in Kiev. But it's it

(01:17:08):
was the only one of its type. It hasn't been
to New Zealand. It's been to Australia, I think perce
it went to in the Russians have destroyed it. They
had a sister ship which was never completed in a hangar,

(01:17:34):
and that was the one that used to take tourists
like me through that one. But we could never actually
look at the operational one and the operational one all
the other facts were pretty well correct. Six hundred forty
ton weight and what have you and capacity of two

(01:17:59):
hundred something plus ten payload. Just an absolute monster. It
almost for there, bowing seven forty seven under each wing.
An enormous machine.

Speaker 3 (01:18:13):
But but no, it did go to Perth in twenty
twenty four to drop off a generator a Jinny Flowsts
Training Resources Company, thirty wheels on the ground. So so
that's the that one is that one is still in existence?

Speaker 17 (01:18:29):
No, no, it got bombed in the first year of
the Ukraine conflict with Russia. So so it was named Mira,
which is a dream or dream of the sky or something,
dream girl or something like that. So yeah, no, that
was the biggest plane in the world.

Speaker 4 (01:18:50):
No longer exists, so that's gone.

Speaker 3 (01:18:52):
There's no others. There was only one of the card
and that's gone.

Speaker 17 (01:18:55):
Yeah, yeah, she's gone.

Speaker 4 (01:18:57):
She's gone.

Speaker 17 (01:18:58):
Mirah, Mira, that's the one. M I y are a
something Google Google that you'll get all the emp.

Speaker 3 (01:19:14):
What's the biggest plane in the world now then, oh.

Speaker 17 (01:19:18):
No, that's that's beyond me that Sorry, I don't have
that answer.

Speaker 3 (01:19:24):
He was the biggest when you went to the airport
and kieve. Yeah, could you go on that plane or
you could go on a mock up of what you're saying.

Speaker 8 (01:19:32):
Yeah.

Speaker 17 (01:19:33):
So so they had two of them, So they had
one that was fully operational and and the other one
which was clearly being built as a as a backup
if you like.

Speaker 4 (01:19:47):
Yes, and they were.

Speaker 17 (01:19:49):
They were in two hangars adjacent to each other, so
you could see but you couldn't go into that one.
But right next to her was the identical mock up
of the one that they were in construction.

Speaker 3 (01:20:05):
And obviously with the all they haven't finished making that correct.

Speaker 17 (01:20:09):
Yeah, And so that was at twenty eighteen was when
I went through that, and being a pilot, I was obviously.

Speaker 3 (01:20:17):
You didn't say you're a pilot. Oh okay, well, okay,
that's a bucket US thing. Okay, it was, it was, yeah,
it was, yeah, it was nineteen eighty eight was when
it came into.

Speaker 17 (01:20:30):
Beam Okay, okay, I didn't know that.

Speaker 3 (01:20:34):
Hey tell me something though, because you're a playing guy. Yeah,
did you get into the cockpit?

Speaker 4 (01:20:40):
Yeah?

Speaker 3 (01:20:41):
How high up would you be?

Speaker 17 (01:20:44):
Oh about semi five feet?

Speaker 3 (01:20:47):
Yeah, it's high and it's really high.

Speaker 17 (01:20:50):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, you're up there. She's a big. She's
a big yeah. Yeah, and I couldn't even fathom what
it would feel like too. Text you this good little
YouTube clips of that particular flight into Perth from leaving,

(01:21:17):
yeah said.

Speaker 3 (01:21:18):
Look a look at the show. It looks it looks amazing.
Yeah yeah, yeah, appreciate that, Davey, thanks so much that
twelve past ten. Keep your calls coming through eight hundred
and eighty twenty nine to the text, John Marcus, welcome,
good evening.

Speaker 6 (01:21:32):
Hey Marcus, John Baker here.

Speaker 3 (01:21:33):
How I am nice to hear from you.

Speaker 6 (01:21:34):
John Well, hey, first time when you show.

Speaker 3 (01:21:39):
The pleasure is actually mine.

Speaker 6 (01:21:45):
Hey, Marcus, I just thought, after our last conversations last
encountered you, I'm going to bring up for New Zealand
rock and roll milestone. Sixty years ago the Pretty Things
in Sandy Shaw kicked off their infamous New Zealand tour
at Founders Theater in Hamilton and then continue to do

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tea more dates around the country. And I was just
curious of any of your listeners saw the Pretty Things
on that visit, because a little bit before you and
I were born. But you know, I'm not sure how
much you know about it, but it was a very
Compromis Tour of New Zealand.

Speaker 3 (01:22:19):
I've read the book, the one that I did, yeah
and excellent. So what brought them? What brought them together?

Speaker 6 (01:22:28):
Well, well that's it's the days the Package tour.

Speaker 3 (01:22:31):
Yeah, because for those that don't know, it seems unlikely,
doesn't it.

Speaker 6 (01:22:36):
Yeah. And you know the other thing is the Pretty Things.
They didn't go to America, didn't go to Australia. They
came to New Zealand. And you know, it's just a
little over a year after the Beatles have been here.
And funny enough, I'm actually outside the Auclord Town Hall
right now on a job, and you know, and the
Pretty Thing's played here. Tomorrow night will be the sixtieth anniversary.
They played the Elk Town Hall.

Speaker 3 (01:22:57):
And they came to in Chicago, didn't they.

Speaker 6 (01:22:59):
They finished in Vicago on August thirtieth, and where they
played there?

Speaker 4 (01:23:04):
They played there.

Speaker 6 (01:23:05):
I got my book from the Civic.

Speaker 3 (01:23:07):
Theater yeah okay, which still exists, and and did two shows.

Speaker 6 (01:23:12):
And my mate Dave Hogan went to see them, and
he formed a band a year later named after a
pretty sing song called the Unknown Blues.

Speaker 3 (01:23:19):
And they were huge, weren't they?

Speaker 13 (01:23:21):
Yeah?

Speaker 6 (01:23:22):
And they became you know, the cell phones wildest.

Speaker 3 (01:23:25):
And he's still around. But the other's end is that right?
Something happened to the vocalist?

Speaker 10 (01:23:29):
Is that right?

Speaker 19 (01:23:30):
Oh?

Speaker 6 (01:23:31):
No, Day was the vocalist. Okay, the Pretty Things, The
Pretty Things Actually viv Prince, the infamous Drama is still alive.
He just turned eighty four and he lives in Portugal.

Speaker 3 (01:23:41):
And I was talked about. I was talking about the
underground blues band. They themselves, they themselves. I forget the
backstory to that, but there was some tragedy and that
wasn't there.

Speaker 6 (01:23:51):
Yeah? I think one members passed here?

Speaker 4 (01:23:52):
Yeah?

Speaker 3 (01:23:53):
Yeah, So what was the story with the druma.

Speaker 6 (01:23:57):
What was the story with so go ahead?

Speaker 3 (01:24:03):
What was the story with the drama? For the pretty
I mean, he was just he was just too much.
He was too much for a New Land to handle,
wasn't he?

Speaker 10 (01:24:11):
He was you know?

Speaker 6 (01:24:12):
And in New Plymouth he attempted to burn the venue
down mid set with a lit copy of The New
Zealand Truth because he was not happy with a certain
journalist called Bruce Kaplan wrote about him.

Speaker 3 (01:24:25):
So yeah, And what happened in the end of Las
School was it was he scored out of the country
or what?

Speaker 13 (01:24:30):
What?

Speaker 3 (01:24:30):
How did what was the final snapshot of it all?

Speaker 6 (01:24:34):
He got on the plane in Phenoopi that he had
a rather liquid day and attempted to get on the
plane a little bit over the weather, under the weather
and carrying a crayfish with him as well, and he
got escorted off the plane and I had to wait
another day to lead sobered up.

Speaker 3 (01:24:54):
So when when they were here, were people really was
it a show that people eagerly anticipated and tuned up
in big numbers? Or was it they had their fan
base here already?

Speaker 6 (01:25:04):
Did they?

Speaker 10 (01:25:06):
He?

Speaker 6 (01:25:06):
They did? They were pretty much much fresh on the scene.
But you know that they came with headlines like the
pretty things made tough men faint and you know these
believe it or not men because they had long hair
and they build as these Neanderthals. And then you had
you know, Sandy Show and she was an eighteen year
old kind of barefoot singer.

Speaker 18 (01:25:28):
Yeah.

Speaker 6 (01:25:29):
Quite the combination. Yeah yeah. And I had another pop singer,
Eden Kine. So, like I said, I'll be curious if
any of your listeners are surely and I'm surely.

Speaker 2 (01:25:37):
Well of it.

Speaker 3 (01:25:39):
I would imagine from where our audience goes it seems
to me as though Hamilton has heaps of musicians that
are still around that were big in those days. It
probably would have done that. And of course Eden Kin
is Peter Sarstad's older brother.

Speaker 6 (01:25:52):
Is that right correct?

Speaker 3 (01:25:54):
Where do you go to my lovely One? I think, well,
I was looking at Yeah, it was a great song,
but people think it's a bit sentimental, but it did.

Speaker 14 (01:26:00):
It for me.

Speaker 6 (01:26:04):
I'm more pretty things fan myself, so clearly, okay, I
still support the prince. Look, yeah, I'll.

Speaker 3 (01:26:11):
See what I can do it. Are you putting up posters?

Speaker 6 (01:26:13):
John no I mentioned working on a show that just
got out of the town hall. I just wanted for
the band to come out.

Speaker 3 (01:26:19):
What show is it? Oh God, I don't tell me.
Nice to talk to John, Thanks so much. Seventeen past ten.

Speaker 14 (01:26:25):
There we go.

Speaker 3 (01:26:26):
There's another topic for you this day. Sixty years. I
think we've quite got almost fifty years ago and sixty
years ago, thank mind you. I think people I had
been there, they'd be seventy eight to eighty, so it
might have been to the pret things. Would be good
to hear from you about that also tonight. I'd love
to hear about that. Ah Marcus I was at the
Civic and I've still got the program.

Speaker 4 (01:26:45):
Oh, here we go.

Speaker 3 (01:26:45):
We got two John, We've got two John, We've got
two already.

Speaker 6 (01:26:48):
John fantastic.

Speaker 3 (01:26:50):
Yes, went to that show it found as Alan. I
was at the Civic. I've still got the program. Cheers,
So do you still want their detail? Are you still
doing books on this? Or have you shut that chick?

Speaker 6 (01:27:01):
Listen? We did the book. But if anyone's good in
photos we haven't seen yet, would love to see them,
and maybe they get hold of you and one of
your people can get hold of me at some stage. Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:27:10):
And I know where you hang out at that shopping
mall too, so we can do that as well.

Speaker 6 (01:27:15):
Are you still wearing all yellow markets?

Speaker 10 (01:27:18):
My son?

Speaker 6 (01:27:19):
My son store remembers that man that was just like
the banana.

Speaker 3 (01:27:24):
John has to talk. Thank you for that. Can get
me his number if you would, Dan brilliant. I was
at the Civil. I she's still got the program. John
is out of interest to you? Ask John if he
still wants the program of John. She's still got the program.
Do you want to have a look at that from
the Civic.

Speaker 6 (01:27:43):
You know, I've got the program that's got Sandy shore
On that wonderful sapphire blue. They didn't dare put the
pretty Things.

Speaker 3 (01:27:50):
On the cover though, Okay, I'm pleased anyway. We'll see
what bits and bob we can get for you. Eighteen
past ten looking forward, decolls we have talking about the
pretty thing sixty years ago today or anything else you
want to talk about. Back in a bit we'll go
about four topics on the go, looking forward to your
input on this twenty one past ten Pretty Thingswong and

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o opera House. Great, Marcus, Well can tell us what
the concert was like. You were eden Kin Peter Sarastad's
brother in the Downbeats too. But yeah, pretty things this
day nineteen sixty five, all happened sixty years ago, Marcus.

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The largest aircraft was the Antonov A two five, owned
by the Ukrainian government destroyed the Antonov two too Far,
the aircraft built to go the Russians space sh Of
the two of them, only one was flying but has
been destroyed in the Ukraine. Well, the inter and I
regularly seen here in New Zealand is the one two four,
which is still EVERYBA aircraft, but not the shuttle carrier.
The air crash Reuters reporting was the captain who moved

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the switches to cut off and the first officer who
moved them back to run.

Speaker 6 (01:28:57):
That's right.

Speaker 3 (01:28:58):
Missing children, Why have we not seen them? Mother DNA
both the child of the parent would need to be
sampled in order to find anything unusual. No, that's not
right because they's other people are given samples that they
can work out who you'd share your DNA with. So, yeah,
it doesn't work like that. Now you just you yourself
can go and find out who your who your ancestors

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are with. So many people have done the testing they
can get it veryvery accurately to Yes, there's plenty of
surprises there. You're John Marcus welcome?

Speaker 4 (01:29:35):
Yeah, Hi Marcus is John here. I'm just ringing to
leacher know that there's snowing in Johnsonville.

Speaker 3 (01:29:44):
Well, now, I just had a caller a while back
that said there was very heavy, heavy, heavy hail. But
it's actually it's actually snowing now, is it.

Speaker 4 (01:29:54):
Yeah, it's actually stopped to weave it. But there's snow
all over the ground.

Speaker 3 (01:30:03):
And that's not hale. It's settled. It's snowy it.

Speaker 4 (01:30:06):
Yeah, it's white snow. It's settled.

Speaker 10 (01:30:09):
Wow.

Speaker 3 (01:30:11):
Will that happen very often? Will that happen very often?

Speaker 4 (01:30:14):
Very very seldom. I think the last time was about
ten years ago.

Speaker 3 (01:30:21):
I've just looked at the map. It says it's five degrees,
but it feels like minus five. So the front must
have come through away, Yeah it has. So where does
that settlement? I'm just trying to look at the map
now of Johnsonville right everywhere it settle on Mount cal
Cow and everywhere?

Speaker 4 (01:30:40):
Will it?

Speaker 10 (01:30:41):
Yeah?

Speaker 4 (01:30:42):
Yeah, it's quite higher than quite higher than Johnsonville.

Speaker 3 (01:30:51):
To shame, it's the nighttime. We can't get the shots
of the hills and stuff. Will it remain till them all?

Speaker 12 (01:30:56):
No?

Speaker 4 (01:30:57):
I think it'll w by then it'll be I could do.

Speaker 3 (01:31:02):
How much is on the ground?

Speaker 8 (01:31:05):
Oh, very.

Speaker 4 (01:31:10):
Very petchy, But it's all round okay, wow, Yeah, you
couldn't build a snowman.

Speaker 6 (01:31:17):
Okay.

Speaker 3 (01:31:18):
And is there wind with it or it's just snow?
Is it windy as well?

Speaker 4 (01:31:22):
Yeah, it's windy too, and it's really cold. I just
went outside for a smoke and.

Speaker 3 (01:31:31):
Oh that's exciting, okay, John, I appreciate the breaking news
on that one's And there we go snowing in Wellington.
I'm just trying to see if anyone's posted anything on
social media about that, because it's of interest to me.
Get in touch. Oh gee, every ten years, I'll just
do a social media search. I don't go to Twitter
very much now, but they're probably well at the Wellington

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people are probably good with that Wellington snow. I'm just
going to see the latest on there. There's any shots,
can't see anything, but get in touch if you want
to talk. By the way, twenty six past ten ndred
and eighty today, the pretty things we are talking about.
We're also talking about the planes and what else we've
talked about before the news. It's been a varied show,

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snowmaking and Tom Phillips and anything else you want to
talk about. You might have seen that Patty Gower show
Cheap Butter at the Night and Day stores six dollars fifty.
It's a gimmick. It's a good gimmick though, and any
anyone else got verification of the snow. The only reason
I'm skeptical is the guy beforehand said it was hailing.
But yeah, it does seem those snow mixed with hale.

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So you want to talk about that too, would be
good to hear from you. Eight hundred and eighty tenty
next I'm not so hang on, no, I'm not seeing
I'm seeing snow on Mount Wellington and Tasmania but nothing
currently twenty seven past ten back as you see soon
ten twenty eight Murray Marcus welcome, Yeah, so she.

Speaker 18 (01:33:01):
Nineteen thirty four. I wish him now. Cook is a
small place. So I got asked by two pilots, chief
from alco Que Lines, to fly within the christ Church
and look after the plat of porter that they flew
like a jit turbine play. We're used to a Heli
skiing and terists like snow landing. So I agreed to
that because they wanted to go to Elkon John CON's
at the same weekend, right we sat and n so

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it was we took off from Mount Crop. Oh, the
tns were down the Red Gutata cross Fuel Forest and
the flat lined at the Chraist Church, so we were
packed up. So that coincided with the weekend of well
One of the reasons they had to go to Cristich
was coside was the weekend of open day for the public,
so there are no planes flying. It wasn't an airstrope,
but they're all parked up on the ground right and

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there are big lines of people and we were parked
up in this plot of Porter five hundred and fifty
Hawks power jet turbine turboprop next to as much as
you can get next to a galaxy. And I think
there was a start of tour just like this wall.
But they are huge meta you know overdup you you
drive the tenk and sort of thing when you right there?

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Check it out?

Speaker 3 (01:34:08):
Did you not go see did you not go see Elton?

Speaker 22 (01:34:11):
I did.

Speaker 2 (01:34:14):
Not storms. Yeah, I thought it constantly.

Speaker 10 (01:34:17):
We drunk.

Speaker 3 (01:34:22):
She's a big club. Yeah, it's a good story. Barry,
thank you. That's a good that's a good weekend.

Speaker 13 (01:34:27):
I like that.

Speaker 3 (01:34:27):
That's when you remember, keep your calls coming through half
I wait, one hundred and eighty ten eighty, yeah, keep
your call. Interesting thing about Mmasfield. I recently had a
birthday and I was going to go to Mmasfield, which
was fine, but geez, I tell you what. I think
it was a set meaning I think it was six
hundred dollars a person, and which was fine, but I

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didn't think the kids would be any of that value
of food. That was my take on that one. And
I didn't think it was really right for a family, yeah, honestly,
And that was without drinks that we would have drunk
or the kids would have drunk, and I wouldn't have drunk.
Vanessa wouldn't have drunk. But I'll tell you what, Yeah,
she's she's high end. I'd go again if I had

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someone to get four forty per person, I think, but
with a wine pairing six ninety five on the chiefs
mean you six ninety five per person. So yeah, it's good,
but I think you're paying for it. And I think
we had a discussion Vanessa was it. A lot of
it was seafood and eal and stuff like that, which
I were of loved, but she wasn't so into that.
So no, we didn't go. But yeah, wow that she

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set menu. So that's a fairly pricey operation, very much
for the I guess it's probably people coming with American
dollars and stuff like that. And it does look sense.
Food does look sensational. But anyway, there you go.

Speaker 6 (01:35:51):
That's that.

Speaker 3 (01:35:52):
Anyway, lines, they're free, welcome. My name is Marcus. Good evening,
how are you going? What's happening? Oh, eight hundred and
eighty ten eighty nine two nine two detects so far
tonight we're talking about Tom Phillips and the Patrick Gower Show.
We're talking about the pretty things in New Zealand sixty
year years ago. If you're at that concert or any
of those contents, they toured right around New Zealand. Let
us know also to we are talking about the giant planes.

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Anything else you want to talk about, there's what we're
on about tonight. Eight hundred eighty ten eighty and nine
two nine two to text. Anything else totally here for you. Oh,
eight hundred eighty ten eighty and nine two nine two
to text, but all the lines are free. I'm looking
forward to you and put tonight. Also snowing and Wellington.
Is it snow or is it grippel? It might be

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something by the way, it's supposed to be snowing tonight
on the rim Attackers on the top or Napier Highway
and on the Desert Road. Marcus free heavy hail and
parts this afternoon said like snow on the ground. Lasted
front an hour afterwards. Marcus at seven fifty five car
Kreeselvan northbound road closed. There is a creshed northbound at

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the Queen Street Western Detection and the road is closed
to northbound traffic. Marcus Wellington has been having hal on
and off all evening. I question if it's snow, more
likely hail residue, and also DNA testing DNA and me
if you've done that and how that worked out for you.
Did you find out that one of your parents wasn't
your parent? Because when that happens, you probably wish you

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hadn't done it right, the DNA testing. So there we go,
twenty six away from eleven. Any of those topics or
anything else you want to mention tonight, great, that's what
we're about.

Speaker 4 (01:37:36):
The other thing.

Speaker 3 (01:37:36):
I don't want to throw too many topics at you tonight,
but since we stood all last night about having your
thumb with a hammer, we probably could have fought a
few more different topics tonight. I know I can't think
what the other ones are now, So if you want
to come through, great, let's hear from you. Pretty things
would be the major thing I'd love to talk about.
And DNA testing. Oh and Tom Phillips also with that

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Petty Gower show. The other The other thing that I
was enjoying reading about today was the World's gone crazy
for hot food, So what's with that obsession? And realistically,
how enjoyable is hot food? So it's the young people

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because they drive all the trends. Spicy food, everything now,
spicy chicken, it's all of it, and no one quite
knows what's driving it. But everyone's gone mad for spicy
food and like the world's Hottest chilies and all that stuff.
I don't mind it. I think once in a while
you get your palette kind of obsessed with spicy food.
You're gonna have spice on everything. It becomes a bit
of a I don't know what it becomes a bit

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of it becomes a bit of a well, I don't
know what the ultimate kind of we end up ultimately
for it. Anyway, we're having to carry your bottle to
Besco sauce everywhere poured on your beans. Anyway, Stephanie, Marcus, welcome.

Speaker 8 (01:38:59):
It's good evening. Marcus.

Speaker 10 (01:39:02):
Do with.

Speaker 8 (01:39:05):
My investry dot. Yes, And the only surprise I found
was my mother's mother her family.

Speaker 3 (01:39:16):
Hey, you just cut out at your mother's mother, her
family can try again. I think we're right now.

Speaker 8 (01:39:27):
Yeah, they've gone back into Sweden. Yeah, yeah, that's the
only bit that I didn't didn't know of what I use.
It was Irish and the UK or the Scottish and
Mary so yeah, the only ward it was the Swedish one.
I didn't know.

Speaker 3 (01:39:47):
Did you find any did they put you in touch
with any long lost relatives or anything like that?

Speaker 8 (01:39:52):
Oh, there's a big list of relatives.

Speaker 3 (01:39:59):
Oh yeah, did you email? Did you email? Did you
email them?

Speaker 8 (01:40:04):
There was a couple they got in contact with me. Yes,
but it was quite interesting.

Speaker 3 (01:40:11):
I'd imagine if you got into a world trip and
you want to stay in Sweden. I mean you're in
the right spot for it, aren't you, because you've got
someone there?

Speaker 8 (01:40:19):
Well yeah, not that know me.

Speaker 3 (01:40:22):
No, but you could say, I think of your long
lost uncle or something in your long lost cousinly your
long lost auntie or whatever. You'd say something like that.

Speaker 8 (01:40:30):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, although it was Cornwall's for a lot.
I'll find a lot.

Speaker 6 (01:40:34):
More of them if what would and Cornwall?

Speaker 3 (01:40:38):
Oh that's pulled out country. They're all pirates, aren't they.

Speaker 8 (01:40:42):
Yeah, there was a one of them come from Cornwall.

Speaker 3 (01:40:47):
So did you have any qualms about doing it? Stiffly
that someone would have your kind of your recipe to
make another U.

Speaker 11 (01:40:55):
Nah nah, that.

Speaker 2 (01:41:00):
Really Yeah.

Speaker 8 (01:41:02):
If they want to make another mea quite welcome to it.

Speaker 6 (01:41:05):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:41:05):
Well the thing if they made another one of you,
it would be a newborn because they can't make them
at your age, so they wouldn't be talking. They wouldn't
be talking for another year anyway, Stiffany. So yeah, any
drama on the roads tonight, not.

Speaker 8 (01:41:21):
Yet, not yet, but I've still got to go down
through theland yet.

Speaker 3 (01:41:26):
So yeah, there's no woods of the Desert roads closed
with snow yet they.

Speaker 6 (01:41:32):
Was there still open at the stage.

Speaker 3 (01:41:35):
Copy that keep us in touch. Stiffe, Nice to talk,
Thank you. Twenty two away from eleven hitdle twelve. Someone
said you'd identify Stiffany's religious by their laugh. You're probably
not wrong. They're Actually that's quite good. Anyway, do get
in touched Marcus till twelve anything goes Ooh, I got
another shot of the snow, Marcus. It looks like snow,

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but it's just all the heavy hail with Nan Johnsonville. Yeah,
thanks for the photo. To Robert, he said, says it's
five degrees. It feels like minus five degree. I would
have thought if you had snow would be down two
or three degrees. We haven't had even a close sign
of snow in south in this year, which is kind
of although I imagine the worst weather will happen in September.

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That's my thinking on that one. Hope it does happen.
Now get in touch if you want to talk. Twenty
one away from eleven does be breaking? Us around the
world will bring that to you. Talk about the pretty
things and the two or sixty years ago till today
in the town hall in Auckland Civic Theater in v Cargo,
I think he said, nape your hastings of Wanganui, you plymouth.

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Of course, Wangui was a big, biggish shitty sixty years ago,
wasn't it. It's one of those places hasn't really grown
on anyway. Now you get in touch. If there's anything
else you do want to talk about tonight. Oh and
the obsession with hot food. When I say hot, I

(01:43:05):
mean spicy hot. I don't know what you want to
do with that, but I'll be up for the talk
about that. Marcus at the highest point, Oh, someone's bats.
Good on your bats, Thanks for Marcus. Have at the
highest pen of the Lemataker. Hell's no snow yet, two
degrees please play Where do you Go to My Lovely?
If you get a gap?

Speaker 10 (01:43:24):
Oh?

Speaker 3 (01:43:24):
I love that song. I don't know who ruined Peter
sars did for me. I liked it on that movie too,
about the Dard jetting Limited beforehand they had that whole
thing based around that song. I'm never quite sure about
Peter Sarastd. I always heard that he developed a stammer
and couldn't sing anymore. But I've since looked at Wiki Peter.

(01:43:45):
I don't nessari know that that's the truth. I don't
know why I thought that. I kind of did once.
It's kind of your classic one wonder, So yeah, I
don't know what happened to him he gave it up.
I don't know if he did develop a stammer, but
maybe he did. He's dead now seventy five, but yes,

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very much. Oh, there was frozen Orange wasn't much good either.
I didn't think, well, how am I to cast aspersions anyway?
Just checked out that you might be interested. Do get
in touch here till twelve. But yes, there was snow
predicting the Nemme attackers and the Topeo Napier Highway. We
haven't got any reports about that. Yet you might be
on that road too, so you get in touch. Watching

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the replay of South Africa Australia, that was a good game.
Well it was a good game because during the news
I listened to the South African commentators. Gosh, they are
sounding arrogant. They are saying things that Australia needed to
do to rebuild Australian rugby, all sorts of stuff. Marcus Ancestry.
After testing, I found out my father's dad wasn't his
biological dad told him he didn't believe me, and that's

(01:44:49):
where it ended. Due to the DNA test that I did,
my seventy three year old dad found out his father
wasn't his father, but his stepfather was naughty Nana. This
was a year ago, a time to rediscover who he
is and we comes from in many new family relationships formed.
And you know what, Dad knows the truth and I

(01:45:10):
pleased he knows it in his lifetime. Well that's a
good outcome, wow, because your father wouldn't have found out
he had any more children, would he, because he found it. Yeah,
that's interesting what you've said there, sharky Marcus Evening.

Speaker 8 (01:45:24):
Yeah, Marcus, I've just come over the top of the
come eyes going to tower there and it's three with
three degrees at the top, and it's a little bit
slippery there, so just be careful, a bit sleepy.

Speaker 3 (01:45:40):
Do they do they ever get shown? Do they get
snow on the comes? They would? Would they?

Speaker 5 (01:45:45):
Oh?

Speaker 8 (01:45:45):
Yeah the como but no snow, but just a bit
sweety and it's looks a bit slippery, I.

Speaker 3 (01:45:54):
Mean, was a bit has it had snow there in
recent years?

Speaker 8 (01:46:01):
About five years ago, okay, about five years was John
Mike Son was just the Mike Baker.

Speaker 3 (01:46:17):
So where what was this?

Speaker 10 (01:46:21):
No?

Speaker 3 (01:46:21):
No, no, no, god, no, no very good question. No no, no, no, no, no,
that's not the case.

Speaker 15 (01:46:28):
A No.

Speaker 3 (01:46:29):
John Baker is someone who is a music obsessive and
a has an extraordary collection of vinyl. Yeah yeah, and
probably is as is as dogged as any any kind
of vinyl trapping person you'd know you'd ever meet in

(01:46:50):
your life. I actually I actually been him a long
long time ago when I worked at Newmarket Park as
eleven year old selling programs. It was one of those
sort of obsessive football followers. I've known him for a
long long time. I think even even managed even managed
the white stripes for a while. So he's the feel
the Chicken, a feeling illustrious music music history. But yeah,

(01:47:11):
but not my not but Mike Baker's son. But yeah,
because Mike Baker was a former broadcaster, wasn't he.

Speaker 8 (01:47:17):
Yeah yeah, yeah, Well I have an obsession with that,
with final Actually I have a lot of vinyl, but
but I also have a lot of radio greens, which
I sort of that learned from Mike.

Speaker 3 (01:47:34):
Okay, where was that? Whereuld that happened? Sharky Well?

Speaker 8 (01:47:40):
When Mike Baker was running a free.

Speaker 3 (01:47:44):
Okay, okay, understand. I think Mike Baker was originally from
is originally a baker from Cromwell, I think before he
came to Auckland for Radio Pacific. Yeah, yeah, I think
he was I think four exa I think originally or
then he left and went became a baker in Cromwell.
I think that's what he did. He's a lively It's
a likable, likable sort of a guy.

Speaker 8 (01:48:07):
I was a lovely guy. Yeah, I loved he was
a great guy. I was working at the radio station
when he passed away.

Speaker 6 (01:48:16):
Okay, yeah, so I used to do a key week music.

Speaker 8 (01:48:20):
Show there on the station. But yeah, he was a
lovely guy.

Speaker 3 (01:48:25):
I think I think John, I think John Baker. His
his obsession is is garage garage? Yeah, garage what do
you call? I sound like a pinchion now garage music?
Garage rock so early kind of using an underground garage
rock would be what he was into.

Speaker 8 (01:48:45):
Sounds awesome.

Speaker 3 (01:48:46):
Hey, I'll check that out about Mike Baker because I
think he did come from from crom War. But I'll
check that one out. Does the Is the Flea Radio
still going?

Speaker 8 (01:48:57):
Well? It does, but it's not It's not like it
was back then. So I'm going back ten fifteen years
and yeah, it's a bit different different now. I think
they just have an online and.

Speaker 3 (01:49:14):
Online it's it's not the same as an online online
radio doesn't work. I don't think we got to Spotify.
Yeah you want a studio, Yeah, they had a studio.

Speaker 8 (01:49:25):
In the different Orphan. I used to do like a
Christmas and New Years He's party five in the studio
and I loved it. It was great.

Speaker 3 (01:49:33):
And Mother was there as well, wasn't he.

Speaker 8 (01:49:36):
Yeah, good old mother, rest in peace. Yeah he was,
he was, he was, he was. He was a quirky
kind of person. But yeah, I enjoyed. I enjoyed my
time spent with Mother.

Speaker 21 (01:49:52):
He was.

Speaker 3 (01:49:54):
Well, anyone that anyone that can just give me know
and still have all those years is the music radio
name is Masa is pretty extraordinary, isn't it.

Speaker 8 (01:50:02):
Well he won the what was it, the Lifetime Achievement.

Speaker 6 (01:50:05):
Yeah, yeah, he got a Lifetime.

Speaker 8 (01:50:07):
Achievement award and yeah it was yeah Mother in the.

Speaker 9 (01:50:13):
Morning, I think it was.

Speaker 3 (01:50:14):
I think it was big. It was big in Christ's
radio too, I think he was big and radio wave
on there for a while too. With Mother, I locked
himself in the studio for some sort of stunt or something.

Speaker 8 (01:50:24):
It was like a forty eight hour sing or something.

Speaker 3 (01:50:27):
Yeah, yeah, I don't in.

Speaker 8 (01:50:31):
Australia too, so he was pretty well known over there
as well.

Speaker 3 (01:50:37):
Yeah, he went to I look more into anyway, Shark,
you going to get back to driving? What's your concerts?
Watch your load?

Speaker 8 (01:50:45):
I've got New Zealand careers on. I'm just coming. I'm
actually just coming into well past tell Rico now going
towards each time load over there and then the next
my night.

Speaker 3 (01:50:58):
Good to hear from you, Thanks Sharky. Twelve away from
eleven head on midnight, looking forward to your calls. Someone says, careful, now, Marcus,
we're listening to you online. I don't know if a
puble of the people listening online. But I don't think
you have your radio station. We got to have a studio.
I think you can't just have a computer and sort
of just download different just yeah, I don't think an
online radio station works. I guess definitely got a radio

(01:51:21):
station that broadcast disseminates on computers. I'm happy with that.
But yeah, or maybe it does. Who knows. Who knows
where radio is going to go in twenty years time,
because what will happen soon is it will no longer
be on frequencies. There will all be through the through
your wys into your home. I don't know how long
that will be. I mean the government still sells off frequencies,

(01:51:43):
but more and more people will listen on iHeartRadio. Ever,
I mean, it's not going to change it all. People
will still go to studios and broadcast. But my great
fear is when all the callers become just AI.

Speaker 2 (01:51:53):
Hello.

Speaker 3 (01:51:56):
Anyway, if you listen to any of that AI poetry yet,
boy oh boy, it's not bad anyway. Welcome people, My
name is Marcus good Evening eight hundred and eighty ten
eighty Marcus. Pretty sure the company twenty three and me
has gone bankrupt, that's right. And there was some sketchy
company wanted to buy it. So that's it. Someone said,

(01:52:17):
I'm sure's going to happen to Stephane's DNA exactly, and
I can start rebuilding young Stephanie's. Who knows what they'd
be doing anyway, mine away from eleven. How are you
going people? What's happening out there in the world. There's
a lot happening. Actually, it's snowing in Johnsonville. It's probably
about to stow on the lim attackers. I don't think

(01:52:39):
it's knowing the South Island now it's moved up the country.
Also this day, which is interesting today in history, this
day in nineteen sixty that the dogs came back to
the Earth Sputnick five. In fact, it was launched Sputnik
five launched by the USSR, carrying Strelker and Belker, two

(01:53:02):
dogs who became the first living things to survive in space.
I'll tell you what in time like now you actually
look up to the space race because it was a
it was largely it was a peaceful pursuit brought great good.
It brought peace and prosperity and great advances in science

(01:53:22):
and development. Was a very very good thing after the
cold wol for everyone to get immersed in the space
race and stop kind of looking at territorial conquests, and gosh,
we had sixty years of peace or fifty anyway, with
one or two minor infractions. By the way, the Night

(01:53:42):
and Day stores tomorrow, butter is six dollars fifty. But
to me, that's a publicity stunt. But it's only for
one day, and only one loaf of butter per person. Yes,
I say loaf. I don't like anything else to say
about butter. I don't even know what to call it.

(01:54:03):
Stor very keen to hear experiences of the pretty things
in nineteen sixty five, this day town hall and around
the country. Do you want to talk about that? Oh eight,
one hundred and eighty nine detext and also d N
A and me or twenty three plus or those DNA services.
What you've done with that? Do you get in touch?

(01:54:27):
Do you want to be part of it? Three away
from eleven o'clock Marcus till twelve Now, Oh, this is Marcus?
Matt welcome?

Speaker 6 (01:54:38):
Hey, how's it going to Marcus?

Speaker 19 (01:54:40):
Good?

Speaker 3 (01:54:40):
Thanks Matt. How are you going?

Speaker 15 (01:54:41):
All right?

Speaker 6 (01:54:42):
I'm doing well. I'm doing well.

Speaker 12 (01:54:45):
I think that a lot of the sputneck like it
was the first. It was the first, and then I
think the US decided to try and trump the Russians.

Speaker 3 (01:54:57):
Yes, it was a space right.

Speaker 12 (01:54:58):
And and win to the moon on the very first try.
And we haven't been able to replicate it for a
the what's it been now.

Speaker 3 (01:55:10):
Seventy years, sixty nine, thirties, fifty five years. It seems surprising,
doesn't it It does?

Speaker 12 (01:55:18):
I mean Tim Donald to see his advance in every
other field, you.

Speaker 3 (01:55:23):
See why people don't believe because we've never done it again.

Speaker 19 (01:55:28):
M hmm.

Speaker 3 (01:55:29):
What do you want to say about pies?

Speaker 6 (01:55:30):
It's interesting, Matt, Yes, sir, what do you want.

Speaker 3 (01:55:35):
To say about pies?

Speaker 12 (01:55:36):
Oh, my apologies. I the bakery that I referred to
a few weeks ago when I rang out Choice cakes pies,
the couple that random placed they sold it and I
went there today and the pie was it was it

(01:55:58):
was edible, it was so it was just.

Speaker 3 (01:56:01):
Okay, what's what's the name of it?

Speaker 6 (01:56:04):
Oh?

Speaker 10 (01:56:04):
Is it me?

Speaker 3 (01:56:05):
Snowflourries river. It'suck a hell road State Highway to temperature
now zero point seven degrees. Any passing clouds will bring
snow showers at the top of the summit as long
as the tent rains below zero degrees. Please be careful
if you're driving where they even take a hell road tonight.
Oh yes, so there we go. That's latest breaking news
there on this cold night. We've got snow that e attuckers.

(01:56:27):
We've got snow and Wellington, well it might be hail.
It's also going to hit the Napier Topoor road later
on and the Desert road. I'm looking for my calls
for the last hour people. If that is you don't
make me say something controversial, will make your call. But
if you're up for a chat about something tonight for
the final hour, as long as it's not hitting your
thumb with a hammer, because we did that last night.

(01:56:50):
I don't like topic creep, but get in touch if
you've got something to addle the hittle the re end.
So oh eight hundred and eighty toda eighty, come on,
let's be hearing from you. I don't know what's going
to get you going in the last hour.

Speaker 6 (01:57:04):
Tonight.

Speaker 3 (01:57:04):
Actually not that I'm concerned, not concerned to my slightest,
but hmmuse I thought it was a stretch with getting
adults talking about buying their toys. But what people out
there might collect something still collecting cabbage patch kids or something.
I don't quite know what you've got with that, but
if you've got to say something tonight before the end

(01:57:27):
to get in touch, although I don't entirely know what
you've got that you want to talk about, but yes,
it would be nice to hear from you. Just try
to think what I was thinking that you're going on
tonight before the final flurry. Anything but the All Blacks
I suspect. Then, so the trouble if I say anything,

(01:57:48):
but then someone want to talk about the All Blacks
or fluoride. But yeah, that's what we are on about tonight,
all the other stuff. But if you have got some
comments about Tom Phillips, it was quite a big story tonight.
There was the Petty Gower Show forget what it's called.
But the police call on Tom Phillips to those helping
him to negotia and do a deal. I just don't

(01:58:08):
think the police were the rights to negotiate and do
a deal. If you've broken the wall, you've broken the law.
You can't say come back or let you off. There'd
be my thoughts on that one. But anyway, twenty three
minutes past eleven, you want to come through. Just on
the background, watch that South African Australian rugby match. What
a cracker.

Speaker 8 (01:58:25):
That was.

Speaker 3 (01:58:29):
Fantastic match. Love it when Australian rugby is good. I
hope it remains. I hope they keep the coach because
I always find that most enjoyable boys enjoyed Australian rugby
when it goes well. Only happens about once a decade.
But yes, how do I pronounce this one?

Speaker 15 (01:58:49):
Son?

Speaker 3 (01:58:49):
It's Marcus? Welcome.

Speaker 20 (01:58:52):
Hi, how are you?

Speaker 2 (01:58:53):
Yeah?

Speaker 7 (01:58:53):
Nice to hear from California.

Speaker 3 (01:58:56):
Oh, nice to hear from you. What's happening?

Speaker 7 (01:58:59):
Well, I'm listening to you talk about the weather and
New Zealand right now. Yeah, and the snow got What's
particularly intriguing to me is you're referencing it on state highways.
I think you said two and five, And I'm wondering

(01:59:23):
how New Zealand names their highways and why because there
are no states in New Zealand.

Speaker 3 (01:59:34):
Have you been to New Zealand.

Speaker 7 (01:59:38):
I'm from New Zealand.

Speaker 3 (01:59:39):
Okay, okay, okay, live.

Speaker 7 (01:59:43):
In American Effort forty five years.

Speaker 6 (01:59:46):
But I come back with some forwards and.

Speaker 7 (01:59:50):
There are huge differences. So you can ask me anything
about that.

Speaker 3 (01:59:53):
But you know, I'm just saying, as soon as you
asked it, I've got no idea why they're called state highways.

Speaker 7 (01:59:58):
We've got no states, right, And that's concerning to me
because I see New Zealand American trans which is very disturbing.

Speaker 3 (02:00:11):
You have no idea why they're called state highways. I
presume because they're maintained by the state.

Speaker 7 (02:00:18):
They're not states.

Speaker 3 (02:00:20):
Well, I guess you could say the whole New Zealand
a state. Would say something is run by the state.
It's run by the government, isn't it is? It's a
is it another? I think that's a correct interpretation of
the word state.

Speaker 6 (02:00:33):
Isn't it?

Speaker 15 (02:00:35):
Well?

Speaker 7 (02:00:36):
The United States are divided into states. They're regions that
are legislatively governed by governors in those states. New Zealand.

Speaker 4 (02:00:51):
States.

Speaker 7 (02:00:51):
New Zealand is one country.

Speaker 3 (02:00:56):
You know, although the other definition a state is a
nation or territory considered as an organized political community under
one government, so Germany and Italy European states.

Speaker 7 (02:01:10):
Correct, correct, And in terms of highways, usually they refer
traveling in that state to through other states.

Speaker 3 (02:01:25):
I guess, I guess. I guess. Maybe it's to differentiate
between the roads built and maintained by the local authorities.
You've got your local roads and then your state highways.

Speaker 7 (02:01:41):
Possibly, yes, that is, but I'm just you know, many
years ago we didn't have state highways in New Zealand's right.

Speaker 3 (02:01:52):
What's the noise with you? Are you selling your window
wipers going?

Speaker 15 (02:01:54):
Is that right?

Speaker 19 (02:01:57):
No?

Speaker 7 (02:01:57):
I'm driving actually right now, we're about We're about in California,
are you I'm in San Francisco. It's about four booty
in the morning on the nineteenth.

Speaker 3 (02:02:09):
Where are you heading?

Speaker 7 (02:02:12):
I'm actually heading down to San Diego.

Speaker 3 (02:02:15):
Love your talk, son, Thanks so much, bullets. Marcus. Good evening.

Speaker 4 (02:02:19):
Yeah, kill a Marcus. Maybe they maybe they should name
a lot of fair roads and New Zealand states the
state highways because they're in dreadful, bloody states anyway, talking
about snow and that, Marcus, I remember in either nineteen

(02:02:40):
fifty eight or fifty nine, walking behind the old man
and the old essics going up the porters Pass when
it was covered with snow. We never had chains in
those days. With the old man tide wire rope around
the old sorry railway rope around the old spoke wheels

(02:03:00):
and off we went, passing all these flesh forwards and
stuff on Boston's and then going up the hill we
got up the Okay and then further on the journey
to Cass we come across another wee rise that had
ice on it and we were gone. Old card just
slipped them to the side, wouldn't go anywhere, and we
got picked up by a gentleman in the truck and

(02:03:22):
taken through the Cass to finish our journey. So I
think I was about six at the time. That old
Essex went from christ Just to Kingston where I started school,
and then back to Cass and then the old band
drove it up to the Hawk's Bay to Cope Waafra

(02:03:46):
header than wirel for three and a half years and
eventually sold it up there when we came back to Kennery.
So they had a good old journey the car.

Speaker 3 (02:03:57):
What year What year was the Essex?

Speaker 4 (02:04:01):
I think it was a twenty nine yeah spoke yeah,
And I remember we went to we went fishing up
in wire or somewhere, and we had a flatty and
no spear, of course, so we filled the tire with
dry grass from the side of the road and they

(02:04:24):
got us home without thread and the tire. So that
was a memborable of the journey.

Speaker 3 (02:04:29):
Makes sense. What did you say he used for the
for this snow? Did you say he used railway rope?

Speaker 4 (02:04:35):
Whole railway rope. Yeah, it was quite thick back.

Speaker 3 (02:04:37):
In the op okay, but it's just it's just it's
not a metal rope. It's just a flex rope, just.

Speaker 4 (02:04:42):
A just an old just an old rope. Yeah, they
were quite thick, you know, probably handmade back then.

Speaker 3 (02:04:48):
Did that work as a chain like what have both suppose?

Speaker 15 (02:04:51):
Yeah?

Speaker 4 (02:04:51):
Yeah, it worked really well in the snow. That no
good on the ice, no, okay, absolutely hopeless on ice.

Speaker 3 (02:04:59):
Yeah, it's amazing. So what year was this nineteen? Is
this the mid nineteen fifties or sixties?

Speaker 4 (02:05:04):
This is the I was here the fifty eight fifty nine.

Speaker 3 (02:05:09):
Okay, so the cardians the car then thirty years old?

Speaker 4 (02:05:13):
Okay, Yeah, we used to We used to get the
train from Kess three day out this pass to go
to school every day, Yes, and many times the old
we got to stop at Coralon because we couldn't get
any further until they cleared the track. There was a
bit there figure that what they nicknamed the Siberia. When

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it was cold, the track used to lift six eight inches,
you know, off the ground, just from the ice underneath.
It's amazing.

Speaker 3 (02:05:45):
Have you been back to Kess lately.

Speaker 4 (02:05:49):
Probably ten or twelve years ago. Much there was still
I think Old Rainbow was there at the time.

Speaker 6 (02:05:59):
Oh, yeah, he was.

Speaker 4 (02:06:01):
He was still there, and I think there was only
one other house and yeah, yeah, there wasn't wasn't much there.
The original railwayhouse were burned down, burns the ground in
about thirty five minutes, so dry.

Speaker 3 (02:06:18):
So I'm just seeing there's no other people have moved
to kest because it's a pretty well known place in
New Zealand, isn't.

Speaker 13 (02:06:23):
It it is?

Speaker 4 (02:06:24):
Yeah, yeah, there was a Ministry of Worst camp up
there well after we moved out. Yeah, but here it
was quite famous because of the old painting of the.

Speaker 3 (02:06:34):
Yeah, it's a great painting. It's one of the great paintings.

Speaker 2 (02:06:37):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (02:06:38):
Yeah, I remember there built a rehelp them to build
a snowman built an old armchair and a snowman and
after all the snow melted around, you could still see
this outline of the arm chairs, this figure. It was
quite amazing when the train is the railcase come through
and people have stopped to take photos of these old

(02:07:00):
cameras and that it was quite fascinating.

Speaker 3 (02:07:04):
Brilliant. Sounds like a great life. But I appreciate your call.
Thank you for that. Twenty nine to twelve. If you
want to talk Marcus. So you see in the main
national roads are called state highways because the part of
a national stadio network. Thanks for that. State highways are
maintained by the states. Brilliant. Now, if you want to

(02:07:27):
be a part of the discussions tonight, that would be
good to hear from you. Anything goes for the final hour.
Wellington Phoenix have been knocked out of the Australia Cup
after heavy defeat against in PL Victoria Club Heidelberg United
four nil. Wellington Phoenix has become the latest victim in

(02:07:49):
Heidelberg United's giant killing Australia Cup run. In PL Victoria
Club backed up there round sixteen up upset against the
Sydney Western Sydney Wanderers by studying the Phoenix bye even
bigger four nil in the quarterfinal tonight, the biggest cup
upset in Australian Cup history. Was an embarrassing way for

(02:08:12):
the Phoenix to exit, but Heidelberg thoroughly deserved their place
in the final four off another emphatic victory against a
league opposition. In fact, you could have been forgiven for
thinking the Phoenix with the NPL club given the golf
between the two teams of Olympic Village. This was the
Phoenix's fourth defeat against non A League O position the
Australia Cup, after previous losses to South Melbourne last year,

(02:08:34):
Brisbane Strikers in twenty nineteen and Bentley Greens in twenty eighteen.
Heidelberg will play the one of the quarter final to
Auckland FC and Sydney FC and Sydney on Saurday night
in the Semis while the Phoenix return prepare to return
home to prepare for the start of the A League
men campaign on October thirty one. Clearly they have a
lot of work to do there. You go twenty seven

(02:08:56):
away from twelve looking forty input for the final go round.
Marcus Till Midnight Texas made a point we should all
be making. Marcus, I wonder who Old Rambow was at
cass was like an interesting character. You know, we all
your wonders who Old Rainbow was. It could have been
a dog, got no idea, or some ex railway worker
that's stuck up there. Anyway, how are you going, people,

(02:09:17):
what's happening? You've got anything? You've got any great joygia
spread to the world. That'd be nice to hear from.
You get in touch people. Twenty four away from twelve,
Tom Phillips butter. That's the discussions tonight, DNA wild things,
DNA testing, opportunity cases, wild things Andropov planes, all that

(02:09:42):
and more that weird kind of stuff that the stuff
website did to try and create. Well, they're trying to
make out. It was a strange article about that with
about Nicola Willis's issue sort of come back from overseas.
It was trying to usurp Luxeon's promise, which I thought
was just slightly slack shaky judaism. Anyway, By the way,

(02:10:02):
and the pollen flume that's heading over Nelson never knew
there was such a thing as a pollen flume, but
I think with an area that's safely platted with the
pine's radiata, it's probably a well known phenomenon. That's Nelson's problem.
So flurry of pollen. But all these things you might
want to talk about. Twenty three away from twelve. Do

(02:10:23):
you want to get in there. We'd love to hear
from you before the end of my show. Tim Beverage
Long at twelve can promise you that enjoyed that question
about the state highways. But yes, if you want to
be a part of the show, that's a whole idea
for tonight. You might have want to tell me how
the temperature is at your place. It's down to the

(02:10:43):
very low zeros. I think tonight, by the way, the
Department of Justice to begin handing over the Epstein files
to Capitol Hill. The story that won't die. So these
are the things. I'm not quite sure what's happening with
curling in New Zealand.

Speaker 4 (02:11:01):
I don't know.

Speaker 3 (02:11:02):
If I think it's this time of the year they
try and get the old Bond shpiel going. I'm not
quite sure if that's happen and I think they're just
doing it indoors at commercial places. I don't think any
of the lakes of Frozen Over. Maybe you might know
about that too tonight. Always enjoy that for a bit
of an angle this time.

Speaker 6 (02:11:14):
Of the year.

Speaker 3 (02:11:16):
But yes, that's all the information I've got for you people,
twenty three away from twelve. So if you want to
be a part of the show, great, that's the plan.
Oh hang on, there's something else that I Oh, I'll
tell you what I did watch. I watched the video
that was quite fun. There is an event which appears

(02:11:36):
to be in Germany right where you've got to You've
got supermarket trolleys and you've got to push the supermarket
trolleys and push them into the area where they go,
which is that metal compound with three sides, two sides,

(02:11:57):
quite long, quite good. They've turned that into a game show,
pushing a supermarket trolley halfway across the thing, which was
quite good fun. So anyway, there's that also tonight. But yes,
all these things you've got to talk about theres we're
right about tonight. You want to do this or anything else, great,
that's what the prop point of the show is. So yep,
be a part of it. Twenty away from twelve. Before

(02:12:20):
I go into the night I got to get guests
before I go home. Pretty boring, is And when you
go to work and you have Petrol's texts on empty
neature all night, doesn't I wish I'd done it beforehand.
Last thing I want to be doing is filling up
with guests. And then middle always sketchy. You can't geto
the guest station because they've locked the doors. Oh well,
I will cope.

Speaker 1 (02:12:41):
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