Not a very nice sheep (18 October 2024)

Marcus opines about the poor behaviour of a Government minster, and talks about people who struggle to sleep when the moon is as bright as it has been this week.

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Speaker 1 (00:07):
You're listening to the Marcus Lush Nights podcast from News Talks.

Speaker 2 (00:11):
I'd be good evening news in. I've got a lot
to say in a long time to say it head
or midnight. Jim Steed will take over at twelve. There's
any breaking newspree now and then you will know about it.
As soon as we know about it, you will know
about it. I'll do, madam, just to keep you informed.
A lot's happening. First off, the bat. First things first,
I've got the cricket on, so we'll be giving you

(00:32):
updates of that three six, three four seven, Ravendra on
one oh seven, Saudi on fifty nine. So I am
across that. So if you are at work and doing
stuff like that, you know I will keep you updated
with the cricket. It's on the screen. Watched a bit

(00:53):
of baseball today. Unfortunately, there was a last innings victory
which was the most exciting victory so far in the playoffs.
Actually that was quite a good match, so I enjoyed
watching that.

Speaker 3 (01:04):
I like it.

Speaker 2 (01:04):
What do they call them a wall cough, a home
run or I forget what the name of the term is.
But that's exciting, you know, when that's the last action,
they all run off and they win and celebrate. That
was good. So I'm back into my baseball now. I
think it's down to the last four teams, I think,
and then of course Otanes's team. I'm not quite sure
what the result was for the exit the own kids

(01:26):
to their own table practice. So that's what happened today
for me, not complaining about that, but then just forgot
to check what the school was anyway. Oh, eight hundred
and eighty Taddia nine text. So that's the preamble. What
I need to tell you about our Dodger's one ten two.

(01:46):
That was a threshing.

Speaker 4 (01:49):
Uh.

Speaker 2 (01:51):
Firstly, I want to cover off three things in this hour.
Whether we cover those off or not and put them
to bed, I don't know. Firstly, I'm a keen studyer
of the media, having been involved in it and with it.
If you're close to the media for a while as

(02:12):
a consumer or a partaker, you can pick up trends,
correct me with it, correct me if I'm wrong. But
I reckon everyone's given up on this comment. Tuesday, Oh,
he's weird. Look, Wednesday, he's weird. Look Thursday, Friday. Nothing.
I think everyone's realize it's a damp squib. Because the

(02:37):
moon gets fuller, there's less chance we will see it.
So I'm not even gonna go on and on about
it unless you have managed to see it. Am I
right there? Dan, you think my appraiser would be correct? Yeah,
Dan agrees it's a dud. It's a dud. So let's
face it. People of my generation, we've experienced the three

(02:57):
duddest comets of all time Hallie like Valley, Comet eighty six,
Wasted Time, McNaught two, Double O seven Smidgee. I saw it,
like I said, a little Tale disappointing, this ac Milan

(03:21):
twenty twenty three, and cdly disappointing unless it actually puts
on a good show. I think it's fading away anyway.
I think it's on the retreat. I think our best
time might have passed. So if you saw it, let
us know. I can talk about that. The next thing
I want to talk about. So that's number one is
the comment to dud, and I say that kind of

(03:45):
hopefully that it'll come back. Second thing I want to
kind of hopefully they'll come back. And also too, you
might say, oh, it's not a dud. Marcus is one
of the best things I've ever seen. If you are
that person, you can ring up. Secondly, minister of the
National Government behaving badly. This is this Minister Andrew McLay.

(04:07):
I think he's a Minster of small business. For goodness sake,
what did I say, Andrew Bailey? So Andrew Bailey behaving badly?
And goodness he said it was lighthearted banter. I've never

(04:32):
seen an adult make the L shape would their hand
and put it to their forehead. I just think this
is extraordinary. Fortune's in the first term for for him.
But that's a take some wine. And if you see
k off and the full transcript that I've seen, or

(04:55):
the full alleged transcript is extraordinary. But then if my
reading of the reports are right, that Luxon only became
aware of it yesterday, Now make of that what you will.

(05:21):
And it's a Friday night. They did lucky to hold
this till the Friday news cycle because there won't be
much outrage about it. And I'm not particularly outraged. I'm
just surprised. Apparently lux And didn't find out until yesterday,
which is surprising also because if it was me, even

(05:44):
in my capacity as a broadcast, if I've done something
out and about. I'd tell the boss. I'd say, oh,
by the way, I did this yesterday. It might come
if I think it's something that might come to the
attention of my boss or for management, I'd tell them.
I'd say, he head's up, jee, I've done this. And

(06:10):
this was a this was a ministerial visit to a business.
So my understanding the guy was working late and the
guy just ripped into him. So, yeah, I don't know
what you want to say about this. If this is
the caliber of our ministers, it's a real surprise. And

(06:33):
to be a growing I mean, I don't know what
sort of state of grond man would be. And to
call someone an effing well, all those things, and to
make the loser sign, that's the most surprising thing. Cheapers anyway,
get in touch, Oh eight one hundred and eighty ten

(06:53):
eighty nine text do you want to mention there? But
just it just seems to be a huge surprise to
me that someone would behave like that, to call someone
a loser and make the l sign on their forehead
and tell them to if you see k Off during
a ministerial visit. Yeah, he called me a loser. Pretty

(07:21):
saying the reason I was still at work was because
I am a loser. He turned to the group of
people with him at the time and cleared my boss
and his assistant marketing stuff for employees, and formed an
L with his fingers on his forehead so that someone
sends a humor, I mean all sorts of If that's
a minister of the crowd, which it is, performing like that,
that's a surprise. If that's an adult performing out there,

(07:43):
that's a surprise. And did they not tell the boss?
That's a surprise. Anyway, I would imagine that now people
know his name. If that happens again, there would be
serious consequences. But you've got to get rid of them,
don't you. And look, they won't because it's a Friday
and he hasn't said he will. You imagine John Key
would have, because John Key managed to actually get rid

(08:05):
of people before you know what they're done wrong. But wow,
you've got a comment to make about that. You can
text it through. We'll call it mainly just gut feeling.
What do you think about that? I don't think I've
ever done the L shape to anyone on the forehead.
In fact, it's quite a recent trend, isn't it. No

(08:26):
one does that much. What's within the last ten years,
isn't it anyway? Yeah, so Minister of the Crown official business,
visiting a business and talking to the war to the
workers like that, Creepert cheapest. Oh eight hundred eighty ten

(08:47):
eighty nine to nine tu text, looking forward to hearing
from your Marcus till twelve. You've got any comments? How
does that stack up for you? And also this damn
comment that's not turning out to be much good at all.
Get in touch if you want to, as I say, oh,
eight hundred eighty tendy and nine two nine to text.
Now will get to the text, and I can't wait.

(09:14):
Saudi for the century fair enough? Oh court, there we go,
done out for sixty five. It wasn't going to happen text.
I saw Helle's comment from the middle of the Simpson
Desert in ninety six, life changing experience. We might get
the Beetlejuice super and Over, but the comets have been

(09:35):
disappointing in my lifetime. But the super and Ova would
be revisible even during daytime. Regards Jamie, when is this
the Beetlejuice super and Over? I don't think it's something
I'm aware of. I mean, last century there was two
comets in a row, the daytime Comet. Then helli'sdge. It's

(09:57):
been eight hundred and eighty Teddy and nine to nine
to addict market still midnight tonight. Oh by the way,
just on the other nature of the Minister of the Crown.
In my years of working for various media companies, would

(10:18):
it be forty years, wouldn't be. I've never worked with
anyone in management or a senior position that has done that,
to anyone that's told them to f off or done
the alpha loser sign. So yeah, So not only have
I not done it, I haven't experienced anyone that's done it,
because why would you. I mean, there's nothing to be gained.

(10:45):
It's not a good look you found to get found
out and get told of shows, shows, remarkably poor judgment.
That'd be my take on it. Will you stay? Probably?
Will people like him fraud? When you heard him speak,
he sounded up to me like it was well, it
was an unimpressive voice. Grab let's put it that way.
Goodness me, Ben Marcus, welcome.

Speaker 4 (11:08):
Yet Marcus, Just on this minister. Now I've worked with
it well, I did work with a boss that you know,
I tried to milk the overtime and he would always
tell me to if if home on a Friday, you know,
if I phone, he has Friday. He was only joking
to me. So if it had been a boss to

(11:29):
a you know, working kind of thing, I'd say, oh,
he's joking, you know, get over it. But sort of
a minister that doesn't work in that workplace, it's a
bit different.

Speaker 5 (11:41):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (11:43):
Yeah, So I think it's probably inappropriate the way he
did it, even if he was joking. And you know, again,
no you're working too late. If if oh, you know,
gave a wine radio, there's still still inappropriate. But I
don't think he's at the stage where it's a second
offense or not. Lot you know, sen a lot of
ministers over the last ten years that have done a
lot worse and stayed in the job.

Speaker 2 (12:03):
So it a surprising you a government year and when
you see the caliber of some of the ministers that
they are like that, that that's kind of the shaken
HOWDS is f off? Take someone and f off and
do the l shape. Yeah, I mean yeah, And I
think what happens with people you've become familiar with names
of people that do kind of a perhaps not a
safe pair of hands. I wouldn't be surprised if that

(12:24):
name is mentioned again.

Speaker 4 (12:26):
Yeah, I mean, you know, normally when something comes out there,
it's you know, it's a whole lot of other things
come out with it. Previous government, you know, minister's getting
in trouble and then all of a sudden, a whole
landside of stuff comes out on that particular person. So
it wouldn't surprise me if there's a few more things
to come out on us.

Speaker 2 (12:45):
I would think too that at this time, with the
things not going great guns as far as the economy goes,
you'd probably need some fairly high caliber ministers of business,
and I necessarily know that he would be one.

Speaker 4 (12:58):
Well, it's a chance, you know, Margas. To be honest,
I'm on the fighting make mortgage. I'm in a better
position than what I was twelve month to go, so
I'll mentually happy with this government.

Speaker 2 (13:09):
So Revendra Wicket for Revendra, he's been caught on one
hundred and nine. I'm just let me just make sure
I've got those details right. They're going for the appeal,
he said, it's on the they're going upstairs for the appeal.
I bring you that when that happens. The original decision
is out. New Zealand's gone for review. I'll talk you
through this so I can see the TV in front

(13:29):
of me. I'm getting touch Marcus till twelve, twenty past eight.
Comment on the minister if you were seeing feeling sin
stick off and see the minister. But yeah, goodness and
the comment being the great disappointment. The original review is out.
I'm just watching the I have to see the stick

(13:51):
and over. I think you want to miss the miss
the ball. The appeal was successful. Revendra stays in't it
was good stuff on one o nine so it was
gone for an edge, but the stickometer had no wage.
Twenty three past eight. Jeff, it's my Hi, Jeff, Marcus,
welcome there.

Speaker 6 (14:12):
Thank you.

Speaker 7 (14:14):
You know.

Speaker 6 (14:16):
The disgusting behavior of this minister who seemed to be
I when he was interviewed today, seemed to be trying
to cover up for his disgusting way. He spoke to
that worker and to her and the pokem in the

(14:38):
forehead and tell him to f off. I have never
heard anything like it. Now he's a minister of the Crown.
And as far as I'm concerned, he should be dismissed.
He should not hold that job position. How do you
think it looks in the public's eye something?

Speaker 2 (15:01):
What do I I guess, I guess it's not. I
guess it's not how it looks. But you just you
wonder how competent he be as a minister, because I've
never met anyone in business that's that would behave like that.
I mean, whether he's stressed or whatever. I can't. I
just I can't fatherm it. I think someone said that

(15:24):
alleged he was intoxicated, but he said that he wasn't. Yeah,
but it says the complainant wrote they thought Bailey was intoxicated,
which Bailey, who was also the MP for Or denies,
probably better if he was intoxicated. It's some justification of
it seems bizarre.

Speaker 6 (15:43):
Well, he shouldn't be intoxicated anyway, whether he was or
whether he wasn't. He claims that he hadn't been drinking.
But his total behavior on the Republic of Zion, I
think the Prime Minister should have dismissed him out of

(16:04):
his job.

Speaker 2 (16:04):
I'm getting a few texts at say good on him,
so a lot of people must want ministers and be
quite happy with ministers behaving like that. But I can't
see any other business or any other profession we were
I think people just want I don't get it. I
don't get what you say. Oh look, I think it's good,

(16:25):
you know, I don't get so. Don't you know that's
good that someone's behaving like that, not afraid to say
what they want. But I think I think we get
a better bang for our buck for a minister.

Speaker 6 (16:34):
You'd think, yeah, I just think that. I just think
he's disgusting. I just think it's outrageous. How do you
think that worker felt He probably felt memorlized, embarrassed, and
that meant us to walk away and probably doesn't care
a damn about him.

Speaker 2 (16:54):
It's just strange. It's just a strange thing to do.

Speaker 6 (16:58):
Yeah, strange. I think it's just outrageous. People are where
where are past today? Or talking to a couple of
people about it, and they said, I can't believe why
the report didn't get to the Prime Minister until late

(17:21):
and when he did, he should have got into him
and said, you know, this was totally unacceptable. Do you
remember that?

Speaker 2 (17:30):
Do you remember that MP Gilmore. Do you remember Do
you remember Aaron Gilmore?

Speaker 3 (17:40):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (17:40):
I do, and he said don't you know who I am?
And that was the end of his career.

Speaker 5 (17:46):
Yeah, that's right.

Speaker 2 (17:48):
He resigned. They got and to me to kill someone
to losing if off would be worse to say don't
you know who I am? Although that guy did it,
and I don't know if Gilmour was intoxicated or I
think that was the I don't know what the inference was.

Speaker 5 (18:01):
But yeah, the point is to touch this guy and.

Speaker 2 (18:07):
I don't I don't necessarily know that he touched them.

Speaker 6 (18:11):
No, I have said that he pokes. He touched them
on the top of the forehead and told him to off.

Speaker 2 (18:21):
I think when you do the loser sign, you do
it to your own forehead.

Speaker 6 (18:26):
Wow impression. Sorry if I got that wrong.

Speaker 2 (18:29):
Yeah, I think so because I think have you ever
seen someone do the it's normally children that do it.
You do the l you touch your forehead, you pick
up you got your right hand, Jeff, you got your
right hand in front of you. Yeah, and you put
your index finger up and the thumb out and it
makes an L but that's back to front, but it

(18:50):
put it to your forehead and looking at you, it
looks like an L for a loser.

Speaker 6 (18:56):
Well, whether there was a definite touch or not, and.

Speaker 2 (19:00):
He touched itself. I think he touched his own forehead.

Speaker 6 (19:03):
Oh he touched himself, Okay, yeah, so I go there.

Speaker 2 (19:07):
It says he tuned to the group of people with
them at the time, including the boss, the minister's assistant,
marketing stuff, and employees, and formed an L with his
fingers on his forehead, not the guy that was working
overtimes forehead. Yeah, I think that you do the losers.
I might not be wrong. It's a team thing, but
I think you do the loser sign with your own forehead.
Is that right, Dan, Yes, he didn't touch his forehead.

(19:35):
It is surprising though. I mean, I've got better things
to worry about on Friday night, but it's weird. It
makes me feel slightly creepy that someone's going around that
would call people losers when you where they're playing text
is to pay for you to be your Minister of
Small Business and Manufacturing, which I think we probably need at.

Speaker 5 (19:52):
The time.

Speaker 2 (19:55):
For goodness sake. Play of texts. I will get to
those and some great texts too, Marcus, can you edge
of a female minister behaved like he did. I bet
the people texting we have a different view. You know,
most people texting seem to be outraged. Basically. I'll get
to some of those. Of course, someone wants to talk

(20:18):
about the way the pyramids were constructed, the blocks were
poured on site. I think that's true, that that's a
YouTube thing, Tony Marcus welcome.

Speaker 3 (20:30):
You know, Marcus, I think in the minister's case, the
real straw that breaks the camel's back is when he
refers to the worker as a loser. I could accept
the rest might be a bit of a joke, but
it's a very demeaning thing to say. In other words,
I've got a top job and you're a loser for
what you do. But what the what the minister should

(20:52):
think about is the worker is the guy whose text
is paying his way basically.

Speaker 8 (21:00):
In the quorum.

Speaker 3 (21:02):
And if the worker had been a bit, you know,
maybe a bit quick thinking, he you know, to some
people they turn around and say, well, I think you're
the biggest loser because you've got to remember that my
wages and my text pay your wages, so don't speak
to me like that. And I think Luxon is weak.
I think he should basically strip him of his ministerial portfolio.

(21:26):
He may be able to take him back, like a
lot of them doing a few months time if he
doesn't bit of a pence or whatever like to call it.
But they need to make an example because no way
should he be speaking to someone like that and demeaning
him in that particular way.

Speaker 2 (21:41):
Well, the weird thing is tunny. That's literally his job
to be at small businesses and you know, I mean
it's to do the shaking. How it is to walk
around there and make sure everything's okay and find out
what's going on, listen to the workers. To go there,
and it's the antithesis of the job is to go
there and call a work at a small business a

(22:01):
lose just sounds it sounds like something out of a
British sitcom. I mean, why would you even be in
that job if you if your attitude towards people in
small business was that they were losers. For I can't
work it out.

Speaker 3 (22:14):
Well, no, he from what he said, he's so totally
unsuitable for his Curran tenure really, and maybe maybe Luxeton
should basically realize that and maybe finding something else to do,
you know, because.

Speaker 2 (22:28):
I think Key was very good. There was that go Worth,
Richard Worth. Well, there's a number of MPs and they
just kind of disappeared. You never really know what went
on because they just, you know, they just that was it.
There was no discussion if they had transgressed. They were
no longer ministers or no longer parliamentarians. They save the

(22:48):
indignity of knowing what happened. But the Gomburger and people
and that seemed to work quite well for him. Maybe
Luxeon hasn't got the majority that he needs. Maybe that's
what it's about. I don't know, but does seem surprising.

Speaker 3 (23:01):
Well, I think as a gentlemantioned soon to see a National.

Speaker 2 (23:05):
Party MP, yes, oh yes, well then.

Speaker 3 (23:10):
He's got he's got total basically.

Speaker 2 (23:13):
Second you know, yeah, I can't work it out.

Speaker 3 (23:22):
No, well I can't either, because it's totally unacceptable what
he's done. It's quite a falling. Really, it's a very
demeaning comment to pass to someone is trying to do
an honest day's work, and to be sure, the loser
by the very minister who's basically out there, as you say,
trying to promote small business. It's it's very bad behavior.

Speaker 2 (23:47):
Yeah, yeah, something is is it? A National Party MP
for Port Wakato he had been there for who knua
and that's a situation with him. I think he's ex military.

Speaker 3 (24:00):
Well he should know better. You never demean a lower
ranked honest to like that, to speak to people like.

Speaker 5 (24:05):
That in the army and go to Okay.

Speaker 2 (24:08):
Definitely not nice to hear from you, Tony. Thank you
for that, Patrick, Marcus welcome.

Speaker 9 (24:14):
Yeah, good evening, Marcus.

Speaker 5 (24:16):
How are you today?

Speaker 10 (24:16):
Good?

Speaker 2 (24:16):
Thank you Patrick.

Speaker 9 (24:19):
Yeah, those politicians, it's just unbelievable. I think they should
get we're commanders because if we that would be probably
marched on the street to the local police station, wouldn't.

Speaker 2 (24:35):
We Yeah, I don't know. It was kind of different
because it's actually the job to go to businesses. Would
be nice to the people to go them and call them.
It's just weird. It just makes me feel it just
makes me feelicky about the whole government. If that's the
caliber of the I can't work out why you put
if someone has if just someone's like, I don't get it.
I guess I guess I'm just a bit confused.

Speaker 9 (24:56):
Well that's right, I mean, we pay for this you know,
we pay for the like we pay for for Winston
Peters to try to tweet the leader of the MARII
Party to beat him up outside, and it's just unbelievable.

Speaker 2 (25:13):
I can't I can't work out what Luckson's attitude to be,
because if you're the boss, you'd certainly think, well, actually,
I don't want to him around. That seems a bit wrong.
Let's put him sideways for embarrass further. But you know
he might still do that.

Speaker 9 (25:26):
Of course, well he might do and like your previous
caller said, he should do absolutely because these guys have
cameras on them, and you know you just can't do
that from your cameras.

Speaker 2 (25:41):
What will Winston's actual comments?

Speaker 9 (25:45):
Uh, there was something about I'll take you outside and
give you eating or something, take your hat off, and
he was just I mean, honestly, I've never seen music
like it. I'm not a big political follower, but at
the end of the day, it's just despicable, absolutely despicable.

Speaker 2 (26:05):
Nice to hear from your ed.

Speaker 11 (26:06):
Thanks very much that Ken releasing margus. I do you
think that's thoroughly discussed in the way you all slamming
Andrew Bailey. I've worked for the man. I've known him
for many years and he's very approachable, always wanting to
help anybody. And the thing is, you only hear one
side of the story. You don't know what what what

(26:26):
brought it on in the first place. I think it's
done right. Disgusting that you're slamming the man.

Speaker 2 (26:31):
You k n he hasn't he's apologized, he hasn't said
there is a different side to the story. You know
the guy, Well, what do you think was happening for him?
For him to have called someone a loser and to
tell them if off back to if off home? Is
that the way it is? That the way that you've
heard him speak before?

Speaker 11 (26:53):
No, No, I've never ever heard him talk about that
before at all.

Speaker 3 (26:59):
People.

Speaker 2 (26:59):
What would have happened then.

Speaker 11 (27:02):
Well, obviously it must have been something that the other
guy must have said or done in the first place
to have brought to that stage in the first place.
That's why I say, you only know once one the story,
So it should five other things to talk about, not
condemned people. And you only know.

Speaker 10 (27:17):
How the story.

Speaker 2 (27:17):
What else should we talk about?

Speaker 11 (27:18):
Ken, Well, there's a lot of other subjects. Always have
different subjects every night.

Speaker 2 (27:26):
Good only ken off you go Jeeves Oh eight hundred
eighty twenty nine nine to the text Marcus, someone might
talk that way to a colleague at just go home,
you try hard, But from minister to Joe public is
just stupid. That said he had apologized fairly promptly, and
for this bloke to Karen moaning just smells like petty politics. Well,

(27:48):
I don't know that's quite the circumstances. Look at the
story about it. He's apologized for offending a person who
alleges the Minister responsible for small business to them f
off and called them a loser during a business visit.
The government released a letter from a complain from the
complainant and Bailey's apology on the well on Friday after

(28:09):
which is this afternoon. The complainant wrote that they thought
Bailey was intoxicated, which Bailey, who was also the MP
for portwa Kato, denies. So it goes on to say
Bailey visited a number of business around the country and
the lead up to his apology letter dated October the eleventh,

(28:32):
So I'm not entirely sure what the timeframe of it is.
I don't know how prompt the apology was that's what happens.
All the information comes out on a Friday or the
journalists or the journalists have gone home. So yeah, as
far as the dates go, Bailey said, I got this
completely so Ken Bailey said, I obviously got this completely wrong.

(28:54):
So he's admitted it. I obviously got this completely wrong.
So that's pretty much oning the behavior and saying he
got it wrong. I regret my actions. They all fall
well short of the behavior expect of a minister and
what I expect of myself. I've also apologized the Prime
Minister and given him my assurance it will not happen again.

(29:17):
In the complaint, the work has said Bailey told her
to take someone and if off if you see chaof
if off home. The player also said Bailey repeatedly called
him a loser. So Luxeon's disappointed in his content and
his conduct as well. He fell well short of the
professional stands of behavior I expect for ministers. He's apologized

(29:38):
both the person consued to me and has given me
assurances that it won't happen again. I still have confidence
in mister buddy. These extits fell wall short of expectations,
and I've been clear to mister buddy, they cannot occur
to again. So this is not someone's got the wrong
end of the story or someone's overly complaining. He's accepted
the behavior, he's accepted, he's done, he's apologized, and Lucksin's

(30:00):
kind of called him out on it, but said he
stands as a minister, So it's slightly different what people's
spin is trying to put on it as someone whining
to let the labor party or something. Thank you Hayden
for your text, get in touched Marcus to Midnight, Wayne
Good Evening.

Speaker 3 (30:20):
Oh got edning Marcus. I was kind of bringing up
with a similar sentiment to Ken, but just a little
less animated, and that surely there must be more to
this in terms of whatever the reason why he did it.
I think the key is that as a minister, he's
just been playing stupid. But even if he was joking

(30:42):
or they thought they were doing banter or whatever, you know,
he should know better than to conduct himself in that
way in a public forum. But also I'm curious as
to what the guy's boss did. If an employee of
mine was insulted by someone I had invited into my workplace,
I would have probably acted on it myself as well.

(31:02):
It just seems to be.

Speaker 2 (31:06):
I've got some Minister of small business that's coming. It
might be giving some incentive for your indust You know
that you could be compromised by the fact that he's
coming for the shaking how theis to your business because
you've approached him for some help and getting foreign people
to come and pick fruit or something. You know there
would be a reason. It's either going to be a

(31:27):
photo op or there's going to be a reason you
want to get the Minister's here, isn't there, So you
probably want to. I wouldn't want to put the kibosh
on that moment by saying, hey, easy on, he's my worker,
because that's going to detract from your cage.

Speaker 3 (31:39):
Well yeah, you'd take the photo first, But I just
think that I just think that it's bizarre. The other
thing that frustrates me. I used to be a school principle,
and I used to get frustrated when parents would come
in with the attitude, we pay our taxes where you're
you know we pay you we don't. But just because
we pay taxes, I don't think that means we should
feel that we're paying our politicians. I think politicians should

(32:02):
represent us because that's the job that they've been elected
to do. And you know, I just to me, it's
just playing bizarre that someone relatively experienced as a as
an MP would put himself in such a weird position.

Speaker 2 (32:18):
But what I know, what I know is that when
these things tend to happen, they tend to happen a
number of times when the person's gone. It's it's not if,
but behavior happens, it's peculiar. Yeah, I can't say it's
I want to say it's not isolated, but I guess
what I'm saying is that I would not be surprised
if something else happens. I've got no word of this,

(32:38):
but this is this is what I've noticed from politics.
People that tend to be get the headlines for the
wrong reasons. They'll continue to get the headlines into the
wrong and they'll be let go of. That's why if
I was Prome Minister, if it happened, I'd probably be
fairly tough on them.

Speaker 3 (32:53):
Well, it's a good opportunity. The real question is did
he did he take the bottle of wine home?

Speaker 10 (32:57):
That's what I want to know, And.

Speaker 2 (32:58):
I don't know if it was a winery or not.
I'll find out, Wayne. But nice to talk to you.
Thank you, Frank. Good evening. It's Marcus welcome.

Speaker 12 (33:05):
Yeah, sure, Marcus. Yeah. There's plenty of naked down emperors
in powerment. They don't really realize it. But John Key
sector fellaw who will saying him? Do you know who
I am? And I'll get John Key the you know,
short yet type of thing.

Speaker 2 (33:28):
I think he resigned, didn't he? But I don't know.
I mean there was always a talk that John Key
had all their resignation letters and we just asked them
to sign them. So I kind of I thought it
was hard done by the Gilmore guy because.

Speaker 12 (33:42):
I thought and then the person that gave him the
beat was running around pulling here, look, I think we's.

Speaker 2 (33:51):
Just just on Gilmore.

Speaker 12 (33:53):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (33:54):
I think that was the day in the time of
the dark ops where everyone was doing blogs about people.
It seemed like some people, some keyboard operatives, really whipped
up a free against this guy. You know, there was
all that sort of stuff in the days of blogs
and podcasts, and they really really ridiculed him, and it
suddenly came up into common conversation and it became a

(34:18):
momentum and they got rid of him. So I thought,
I think that was slightly I think that was a
slightly different situation. But yeah, he did. He did say
don't you know who I am? And someone linked that
and he was ridiculed because of that, and then he resigned,
that's right. Yeah, he resigned.

Speaker 12 (34:37):
Yeah, and he did.

Speaker 2 (34:39):
And he threatened to have the Prime Minister Joonkie and
Devene to have him sacked. That's what it was complicated anyway, Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 12 (34:45):
And the Prime Minister was pulling people's here in restaurants.
But this fellow's probably you know, like he's obviously not
worked in the temorary phrasing works. You know, there's sort
of sharp, pointy something's there and lots of steps. But
you know, the character of the fella for someone to
say it seemed like he was drunk, you know, well,

(35:08):
was he high entycaine? So he knows. But he abused suddenly,
and he was in the position of authority, et cetera,
and he abused him and embarrassed him and him from him,
and he thought for some reason, he seemed to think
that was okay. But there's only the true loser out
of it all. Himself. Yeah, you know, he's made a

(35:31):
follow himself and there, but that was seven weeks ago
and he's only told the Prime Minister about it now.
But it happened seven weeks ago, so you know, there
wasn't much done about it.

Speaker 2 (35:44):
But well, if I've done something like that and realized,
well I got home what I've done, I'd tell the
you tell the boss straight away, and I'm not leaving
in the public sector. That's just a nice that's just
the thing you do.

Speaker 12 (35:55):
Yeah, well, you know, obviously the character of the fellow
just doesn't know and he's probably in the wrong position
of that job or whatever. I don't know, but yeah,
it's quite shocking, but you know, it happens. But again,
these politicians and these people they don't have boundaries, they
don't know boundaries. They think they're above at all them stuff,

(36:18):
and they need to be humbled, just like what's happened
to this guy.

Speaker 2 (36:21):
And hopefully, and hopefully, I mean, you know, it seems
lux and it is not too fussbar but hopefully that
he might it might be a wake up call for
him to become a better minister. But I mean, the
cut of his cloth is there. I don't know how
much hope there is about that. Nice to talk, Frank,
thank you. People are now going on about the under
the Undetectable Comet, So yes, I'm sorry about the comic

(36:44):
because it's just what the world needs is an exciting
astronomical spectacle to see, and that was going to be
the comet. But look, I don't think he's ever seen
it tonight. And when you see shots on the internet,
I reckon most of those that take with high powered telescopes.
So I think it's one you can just front up
to your beach and see. It's a bit like some

(37:06):
of your a So there we go an in this
issue and this you've got anything anything different. I don't
think it's happened anyway. By the way, I think the
moon is quite special. They're calling it is a supermoon
or something there, and they're calling that to Superman. What
do we know it's a Superman. It's just closer. I
peir agree, but it's always closer anyway. I don't know
it's exce it's a supermoon. I also had a discussion

(37:28):
with someone today about that. Do people find and what's
your theory on this? Do people think that your sleep
is affected by the full moon. Because I was talking
to someone there's a number of people who always sleep
very barely on a full moon. I was always one

(37:49):
would feel wide awake, But now that I work nights
and I go to bed about two in the morning,
I don't get it. I don't get that sleeplessness on
the full moon. So maybe if you're going to bed
after midnight, it doesn't I don't know quite because I
always thought it was more because it was more light.
But even it seems as though if you've got all
your curtains closed and your windows closed, you wouldn't know

(38:10):
it's a full moon. You still know it to full
moon because you still can't sleep. So I was going
to say anything about does that affect people? And you
know why it affects your sleeping on the film? And
I want to talk about people going mad on the
film and that sort of stuff, because that's well wrawn,
well worn topic. But the whole situation with a full
moon and sleep on a full moon, I guess it
might be some star signs, So if anyone's got the

(38:31):
input on that, I've often been curious about that, but
never elevated to the talkback topic status. So if you've
got something to say about that, I'd like to hear
from your eight hundred and eighty eight TDY nine two
nine two to text. Get in touch, Marcus. The undetectable

(38:52):
comet is a bit like the undetectable Wallabee docks is.
It's leaving scattered around Tiano, but has not yet been seen.
Although wallabies aren't often seen because they're very good, they
travel at night and they're quite secretive. I think just
because the wall he hasn't been seen doesn't mean it
doesn't exist. That the wallabies are taking over New Zealand

(39:13):
and England. The situation Timodoo, you might be affected there
with the freezing works. I've got an email from She'll
withhold her name because it might be she mailed me
last night about her husband's meeting. She's emailed me again today.
My partner lost his jobs at Alliance Smithfield's meat processing
Ploot in Timodoo for as ten years of service. They

(39:35):
are paying redundancy of two weeks two weeks pay. That's disgusting.
Only weeks out from Christmas. He has been offered a
job an in the cargo Alliance, but our home and
life is in Timadoo. He finished up today, have a
good week in Crystal. So the new story there is

(39:57):
two weeks redundancy after ten year service, and Alliance are
offering them work at will. Some of them off them
work at Invert Cargo because I think they always kind
of struggle to get workers in for cargo. I know
they often fly around the Pacific to them to recruit people. Oh,

(40:19):
there's quite a complicated story also tonight about Jellycat soft
tok because someone talking about Jellycats soft toys. I started
reading the article and it was way too complicated for me.
So there's a stuffed toy manufacture called jelly Cat, and

(40:41):
they're huge with adult collectors. But now there's fakes, and
there are photos comparing jelly Cat fake with a real fake.
So I might have missed something here. If you are
part of the jelly Cat is it like beanie babies?
I like to know about a trend. They don't look

(41:02):
that good anyway. So there's some toys out there also tonight.

Speaker 13 (41:09):
Oh.

Speaker 2 (41:09):
The other thing that I thought might be of interest
to some of you, not all of you, but some
of you. Tonight is the anniversary of the first global
radio transmission from London to New Zealand, or New Zealand
to London from Shagg Valley, East Otaga. I've've done some

(41:32):
reading about that. That's quite interesting, the history of Morse
Code and what happened with that. How there was people
that were sent back from the war and they were, oh,
it'd be someone that's into radio history that will know
about that. But they were doing extraordinary things with Morse
Code and a rural farm out the back of Dunedin.

(41:59):
It's all on the web. It's all on the internet.
It's all good. And I've been reading about the history
of that there today that's radio transmission from Shag Valley
of all things. Now, someone also rang up and said

(42:20):
that the situation that they said someone texted and said
there was the situation with Winston was wrong. But I'm
reading from the New Zealand Herald. It says after Browne
suggested Peter's and Waititi take their argument outside both the
of each other, that they wouldn't last five minutes. Peter's
also claimed wait Titi would be left limping. So that
was the quote that that person was referring to. Just

(42:40):
to be very clear about that, that was that and
that's what the person was alluding to. Good evening, Lee,
it's Marcus welcome.

Speaker 3 (42:50):
Yeah, Hello, how's it going good?

Speaker 2 (42:52):
Thank you?

Speaker 12 (42:52):
Lee?

Speaker 3 (42:53):
That's good. Yeah, just talking about the comet and stuff
like that and being able to see it. Yeah, you
do need some you know, seid of binoculars or something
like that. I haven't actually seen it the side of
it going around the sun, but what I wanted to
talk about is light pollution and just how much light
pollution there is in cities and how insidious it's actually becoming,

(43:18):
and yeah, what can be done about it?

Speaker 2 (43:21):
Yeah, I think with this comment just going to that
you need a telescope. This comment was promised to us
as one that could be seen with the naked eye.
That was all the stull in the observatory. There reason
we could see it, and that seems to have not
panned out.

Speaker 12 (43:36):
No.

Speaker 3 (43:37):
I mean I've got some photos of it just with
a digital camera.

Speaker 2 (43:42):
Where did you get where'd you get those?

Speaker 3 (43:44):
So in Fong Maitar actually just on sunrise, so that's
before it went round the sun and now you can
see it just in sunset.

Speaker 2 (43:57):
So how long how long ago was that? Did you
get it?

Speaker 3 (44:00):
Two weeks ago?

Speaker 2 (44:01):
Okay? Cool. And you can see this. You can see
the tail.

Speaker 3 (44:06):
Yeah, you could see the tail or to see the
fuzzy blob of the head of it. That was where
the camera.

Speaker 2 (44:15):
A camera on a tripod. Yes, and with how long
an exposure?

Speaker 3 (44:22):
Thirty seconds?

Speaker 2 (44:23):
Okay, wow, Okay, So that requires it. That requires a
bit of planning because you've not got to know where
to focus the camera, don't you.

Speaker 3 (44:33):
Yeah, yeah, you needed to know where to lock. But yeah,
it stood out pretty Clearlysure.

Speaker 2 (44:40):
I'm kind of interested what you do say about light
pollution because everyone there's places all around the country like
Great Barrier, like achay Arista at Island, like Techapool. They're
all trying to become world heritage low light deep sky
observation places. But I don't know if there's that much
interest in it. Do you think there is?

Speaker 3 (45:03):
It's pretty spectacular been under those sort of night sky.

Speaker 2 (45:06):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (45:07):
I mean, I live rurally in the North Island, but
I know the local town they're starting to get a
little bit more industrialized. They've got a whole subdivision starting up.
And yeah, the amount of glare that the floodlights from
that area is putting out, it is actually ruining the sky.

Speaker 14 (45:27):
In the view.

Speaker 3 (45:28):
You know, it's noticeable how faded things like the Milky
Way look even in the country three four kilometers away
from town.

Speaker 2 (45:39):
I just don't know. I just think it's unfortunately as well.
People try and monetize it, but I don't know that
space tourism is going to be a big deal. So
I can't quite work out how you get local councils
on board to spend more on street lights so they
don't shine upwards and things like that. I think it's
quite a I think it's quite a hard battle to
get people to embrace it.

Speaker 3 (45:59):
I think, yeah, in terms of the councils, the council
has actually been pretty good in terms of street lighting,
but there's no enforcement of in the industrial areas of
people just putting up as much flood lighting as fossil,
especially the LED type, in terms of how they're angled

(46:19):
and how much light they actually do put out.

Speaker 2 (46:22):
So you're looking at some sort of legislation so you
kind of uplights and things like that, that's what you
need to do.

Speaker 3 (46:28):
Yeah, well, I mean all the new floodlights come out
with it's like the beam angle, so it's easy enough
to work out, well, how wide the beam is and
just angle it down so there's no spill actually upwards.

Speaker 2 (46:42):
Okay, we're about to you by the way.

Speaker 3 (46:43):
Lee, around Mournsville area.

Speaker 2 (46:48):
And you've noticed it's over the last ten twenty years
it's noticeably got darker, I mean lighter.

Speaker 3 (46:54):
Yeah, even in the last five to seven years.

Speaker 2 (46:57):
Yeah, okay, talk more about that, Lee. Thanks so much
that Marcus. There is legislation you're not meant to have
more than one lucks at the court of a property,
but it's never enforced near roading it to especially in
especially highways. Marcus just saying the meteorite that hit mccoyir,
which is just south of Hardwood eight years ago, must
add some special stuff as Darryl Hurley on one side

(47:17):
of the road became a World MX champion and on
the other side was Jeff Hawkins who won news edand
champion bowling total. Marcus, No, Andrew Bailey should be stripped
his portfolio. Didn't say loser once to be said over
and over, which amounts to bullying. He's not fit to
be in his role as of Minister for Commerce. How
many other MPs went under review for being a bully

(47:39):
associa with their parliamentary role or were on the receiving
end Doctor Charma, Maggie, Barry, Samufandell Elizabeth Kitty Kitty. The
PEM is showing his two week and should show leadership here.
Want to talk about the fill moon and people there's
sleep problems with it? Is that something that happens for you?
And what do you reckon that is? Are there people
out there that can't sleep on the two days of

(48:00):
the full moon? That's of interest to me and the
moon in general. But no great shots of the comment.
Everyone's gone quiet on the comet. Does it to be
very exciting at all? No one seems to be reporting
on that one. I was going to spend the weekend
looking for it. Now I'm not so sure. The ago

(48:21):
hundreds of jobs gone today Timidu. If they're confirmed the
closure of the freezing works there, some of the people
have been offered jobs at Invert Cargo. The vast majority
of its six on employees at Smithfield would be made redundant.
I don't know what's going to happen to the premises.

(48:47):
So there we go. That's a situation there. I'll just
bring that to you. Might want to comment on that also, tonight.
There's also problems in Mount Monganui with the hot pools.
The locals want them to open earlier because the current
time is causing disharmony users. So one couple of started

(49:10):
a petition with one hundred and twenty seven signatures. We
believe the hot pools are not meeting our community needs.
It's excluding the working people used to go at six
am before work that can no longer go. With the traffic,
there was a queue of ten to twelve people every
morning before seven am waiting for the pools to open.

(49:35):
The later opening time caused disharmony between the walkers, the
swimmers and the aqua class members. Of course there's just
limited lanes for the swimmers. I've got a question about
how to paint a roof a ceiling. I've got a
ceiling I need to paint, which is a It's a

(49:57):
plaster ceiling, so it's one of those quite ornate plaster
ceilings that I've decided to paint it, and I'm not
quite sure what prep to do. So if any master
painters out there, interior painters that could give me their

(50:17):
heads up on that one. It's peeled, so they must
be paint over the plaster, but that the roof must
have been wet from when there was old tin on
it from a long time ago, but looks terrible. I've

(50:38):
decided to rectify it, but I'm not even quite sure
how to approach it. So if someone's got some painting
advice for me, Linda, it's Marcus.

Speaker 6 (50:44):
Welcome, Hi Marcus.

Speaker 15 (50:47):
How are you going?

Speaker 3 (50:48):
Oh?

Speaker 2 (50:48):
Good, thank you, Linda.

Speaker 14 (50:50):
That's good. Hey, the moon is an energy issue.

Speaker 15 (50:54):
I grow plants, I use my cut my cuttings. Coming
up to the full moon, there's more energy. They take better,
they grow better, and I don't sleep, and it's just
a higher energy in the full moon.

Speaker 2 (51:09):
So you know you don't sleep, do you plan something
different for those nights to do or you always hope
you're going to sleep and it surprises you.

Speaker 15 (51:18):
I have a light sleep, very light sleep, and I
wake up tired, and I think, oh ah, And if
I'm not not actively watching the moon, I go, oh yeah,
full moon. Yeah it's a real thing.

Speaker 2 (51:32):
Because when I've always not slept during the full moon,
I've always still felt quite energized.

Speaker 15 (51:37):
Right, yeah, well, I see hired because the energy is high.
You know you haven't slept, but I always grow in
my plants to the moon and they always grow.

Speaker 2 (51:48):
What sort of plants do you grow?

Speaker 15 (51:50):
Shrubs? Mainly yet, shrubs and trees?

Speaker 2 (51:54):
Shrubs commercially, No, not commercial.

Speaker 14 (51:58):
I could do it.

Speaker 15 (51:59):
Maybe I'll do it one day, but not yet. But
it's just, you know, lacks of landscaping.

Speaker 2 (52:03):
And developing, Liz, Marcus welcome.

Speaker 16 (52:07):
That me.

Speaker 2 (52:08):
Yeah, it's Marcus, good evening.

Speaker 17 (52:11):
I can't go and if you complete and that a
semantics of everything, because I don't I can't scientifically put
them to words. There was a theory that because the
moon is full moon, that that perfects all of tide,
and because it's all affects of tide, then our water

(52:32):
level and our body is affected. Now I can't go
into all the scientific stuff because I don't.

Speaker 6 (52:39):
Know how does it list?

Speaker 2 (52:40):
Does it affect you?

Speaker 18 (52:43):
No?

Speaker 2 (52:44):
Okay, because because yeah, it always did affect me except
when I'm working nights, I don't get affected. But now
by the moon, so it must year. It's weird. But
I I've got thick curtains. You need those when you're
working nights. Garth. It's Marcus good evening. There you go, mate, good, thank.

Speaker 3 (53:01):
You, Yeah, many many, many moons ago. I waked in
a pubb not away here, and when we had a
full moon, it just went nuts. I'm jealous, it just
went nuts. It was like rules and craziness and yeah,

(53:25):
and that lady, I haven't heard that theory before. The
lady has just said that the moon when it's in
full was closer, some times are bigger, and then we
are water and Paul's asked towards it as well. So
it's being in our brain. It's the top of their
heads probably.

Speaker 13 (53:43):
Well.

Speaker 2 (53:43):
I like I like Tony's theory that it's from there
days we were hunting that we could get seen by
the prey because it was lighter, so we hit to
be on full.

Speaker 3 (53:51):
Alurt, Yeah, yeah, to make the dinosaur days, mate, Yeah,
of course, of course.

Speaker 2 (53:58):
But I don't think we're around. I don't think we're
around in the dinosaur days. But Becker, but when there
were things that could kill us like ten fails, like.

Speaker 3 (54:07):
Wolves or yeah, yeah, no, I know what you're saying.
I know what you say. I was just taking the money, mate,
fair enough. And also mister.

Speaker 2 (54:17):
Bailey, mister Bailey, mister.

Speaker 3 (54:21):
Bailey, I'm a little bit skeptical about this story. I've
played sport with mister Bailey. I know mister Bailey rather well.
I would go as far as to say that I
haven't seen him for a few years now, but he
was quite a good friend. The sport we played, our sport.

(54:46):
What it was was our drinking team had a sport problem.
So we go on it. There's frivolity and all sorts
of things going on, and he was there's nothing more
than than a gentleman. Ever, I just I'm finding this card.

Speaker 2 (55:03):
I believe what he's apologized.

Speaker 3 (55:06):
Yeah, yeah, I think I think he's been pushed. Well
I can't, I can't say for sure, but I reckon
it's been pushed into a partis just to shut things up.

Speaker 2 (55:17):
But but hang on by apologize shutting things up because
you're going on all the radio stations to talk about it.
That's not shutting things up, is it.

Speaker 5 (55:28):
Well?

Speaker 3 (55:29):
I just well, witnesses there, this guy's boss was there.
Why are they coming forward to saying anything about it?

Speaker 2 (55:36):
Maybe the media, I don't know, I don't. I don't
know if it's public what the company was. There might
be privacy issues around that as well.

Speaker 3 (55:44):
But what's what's what I thought of said on the
news tonight that it was the warehouse.

Speaker 2 (55:49):
No, a warehouse.

Speaker 3 (55:50):
He was going through a warehouse, not the warehouse. Okay,
but but it said that his boss was there and
other co workers were there, and surely if it had
it happened, one of them want to come forward.

Speaker 2 (56:04):
Yeah, but hang on, hang on. This story has just
been dropped on, as they do with bad news. You
dropped on a Friday night because all the journalists have
gone home, so it'll be Monday morning they'll be on
their phones trying to call the other people to get
more information. That's this is a story that's just been dropped.
What sport did you play with them?

Speaker 10 (56:23):
Hockey?

Speaker 2 (56:25):
Hockey?

Speaker 3 (56:26):
Hockey? Yeah, hockey, field hockey.

Speaker 2 (56:28):
How long ago?

Speaker 3 (56:31):
Oh? Four years probably three four years ago. It was
the last time I played hockey.

Speaker 11 (56:37):
Woman and cock.

Speaker 2 (56:39):
Okay, because he's in his sixties, right, is that right?

Speaker 8 (56:45):
He's an old guy.

Speaker 2 (56:47):
Come on, I haven't seen I don't know the social
I don't know the social hockey thing. But what were
you saying about drinking? You're a drinking club.

Speaker 3 (57:00):
Yeah, that's just another pas take a drinking team had
a hockey problem.

Speaker 2 (57:06):
Okay, for godness sake, cheapest a state of these people anyway,
I'm guessing bush hunters are at home as they cannot
hang their kill on the full moon night's as the
moon rays rot the meat. Is that right? I'm sure
hunters are funny about full moons. Buy cream cheese, spread

(57:26):
it down the chill the celery sprink limit of paprika,
then cut it to three centimentle lengths. You may as
well eat just strake cream cheese. I think the thing
about celery is all it does is give you crunch
Marcus summer paint to any stains. Pigment seal, don't wash
down the ceiling. The flaky areas scraped while they reach

(57:47):
a solid area, then touch up with pigment sealer or
oil based paint. You're now ready to patch it up
with plaster, sand plastic areas. Seal these areas with the
chrinic primer. Your seiling is narrative for two coats of
ceiling flat paint. If it's really bad flaking, you're not
going well. You made it a professional plaster. Oh with

(58:09):
the stelts. I'm up for that. YouTube may help you
for diy He thanks Dred. It's a really I'll take
a photo of that text. I've got that on my
screenshot of Rooney twelve from ten hit to midnight Elean
ats Marcus, Good.

Speaker 12 (58:27):
Evening, Marcus.

Speaker 19 (58:29):
The problem with the comet is not that it's not there.

Speaker 12 (58:34):
It's just that.

Speaker 19 (58:34):
We're in the wrong place. We need to be about
nineteen thousand kilometers to the north and east. It's putting
on a beautiful show over Poland.

Speaker 2 (58:45):
Have you been on shots of Poland?

Speaker 12 (58:49):
Have I done? What?

Speaker 2 (58:50):
Have you been looking at the shots of Poland?

Speaker 12 (58:52):
Yes?

Speaker 19 (58:53):
I have?

Speaker 12 (58:54):
How how on Facebook?

Speaker 19 (58:56):
I've got Facebook friends in Poland when they're putting this
comet on their screen, on.

Speaker 12 (59:03):
Their posts.

Speaker 2 (59:04):
So why is that the northern hemisphere better when they're
still in the I don't know.

Speaker 19 (59:10):
But it's as clear as day and I'm looking at
it's high in the sky, giving some beautiful shots.

Speaker 2 (59:18):
So it must be at a different time of the sun
or something because.

Speaker 4 (59:21):
Of the day.

Speaker 19 (59:22):
Certainly, yes, with sunset.

Speaker 2 (59:25):
So they're getting washed out, aren't they.

Speaker 19 (59:27):
So you know it's about twilight when they get it.

Speaker 2 (59:30):
Is that morning or night twilight evening? Oh yeah, that's
what we're getting a day.

Speaker 19 (59:36):
Yeah, it's their evening, of course, not necessarily ours.

Speaker 2 (59:40):
How do you find Facebook friends in Poland.

Speaker 19 (59:43):
I went there for a holiday twenty eighteen and it
has made some friends while I was there. Good food, oh,
great food, good food like beeg tree, you know, good everything.
You know, it was a great place.

Speaker 2 (01:00:01):
It's always so Polish. It's great Ellen, nice to talk,
thank you, and it's Marcus.

Speaker 3 (01:00:05):
Good evening, Hi Marcus.

Speaker 16 (01:00:09):
Obviously you're not a fisherman, do.

Speaker 9 (01:00:14):
You.

Speaker 16 (01:00:15):
Okay, Well, this is interesting. If you catch a fish
on the full moon, you've either got to put it
in your chili bin or bear it and sand cover
it up, because if you don't, in twenty minutes, its
flesh has already started to rot.

Speaker 2 (01:00:32):
What about with hunting? You are you a hunter because
someone said the meat goes off.

Speaker 16 (01:00:40):
Yeah. Well, it's like if you geld a horse. You
geld a horse three days before the full moon, and
the pull of the moon will heal it. But after
that full moon, if you do it after the full moon,
it's likely to catch infection.

Speaker 2 (01:00:53):
Gosh, I happen. You have to geld a wese. That
sounds terrifying. Have you gilded a horse?

Speaker 16 (01:01:02):
Not personally, no.

Speaker 2 (01:01:03):
No, but you know about it. You know what to
do if you will going to geld a horse.

Speaker 16 (01:01:08):
Absolutely. I've been with others that have done the gelding,
you know, like a vietnet, but we always do it
three days before the full moon.

Speaker 2 (01:01:15):
Wow, are you like a farm person?

Speaker 16 (01:01:18):
I am a land person here.

Speaker 2 (01:01:20):
Land person? Goodness? Are someone that can sleep on a
full moon?

Speaker 16 (01:01:25):
No? Absolutely not. It drives me nuts. I just set
up all night and listened to to ZV.

Speaker 2 (01:01:32):
How do you know that it's coming a weere each
month that it is going to be a full moon?
Or does it catch you by surprise, like, Oh, that's
why I can't sleep.

Speaker 20 (01:01:38):
It's a full moon exactly.

Speaker 16 (01:01:41):
Yeah the letter. Yeah, the letter. I'm wondering why I
can't sleep and realize, oh it's full moon.

Speaker 2 (01:01:50):
Oh that's why you didn't sleep last night? Not a
bit did your geld a horse?

Speaker 16 (01:02:00):
Not last night? Okay, but times and we always always
obey it rules.

Speaker 2 (01:02:07):
Nice to hear from you, and thanks very much to that.
By the way, there's the locker room for Tonga up
against the Kangaroos. What an awesome looking team they are. Anyway,
I'll give you the updates on that. That might be
worth watching. My dad couldn't sleep well on full moon nights.
They turn the blinds down because full moon nights. When
the Japanese bombers came over during World War two, been

(01:02:28):
alert during full moon nights as of old over time,
as those nights were dangerous. Mark, you know that's what
Tony thinks. I agree with that salary too difficult to grow,
either bolts to seed or gets eaten by bugs. Not
always a favorite to give away either leeks a better
Tristan cricket India fifty seven for zero they trail by

(01:02:49):
two nine to nine. Some people sleep walk during full
moon weeks, like my sister. We used to have to
follow her until we could guard her back home. But
number one rules always to never wake her up. I
still don't know to this day why people say that
whose spouse follows are now about four times a year.

(01:03:11):
Apparently the moon's rays are stronger every three months. Why
don't you wake up a sleepwalker? That sounds like a
daft thing, doesn't it. It's going to say it sounds
like a wives tale? But what's the non sexist word
for a wives tale? I was thinking about that today. Also,
what is a wives tale that's not a wives tale? Marcus?

(01:03:32):
The Australian version of hunters the best. Basically you can't
use any technology. But why don't they go to camp?
How much money have you got? Because why do they
go and camp in people's backyards? Whither they just go
to a camping ground where no one would know them?
And why aren't their disguise as better? And I've got
to say that British are hopeless with backpacks because they've

(01:03:53):
always got extra stuff and kind of side bags looks
like they've been driven through the aldi shot backwards. They've
got bags everywhere. Get in touch, Marcus till midnight eight
hundred and eighty Tady nine nine two de text Rose Marcus.

Speaker 7 (01:04:08):
Welcome, oh greetings, and good evening. Marcus. How are you
good for me?

Speaker 2 (01:04:15):
Yes?

Speaker 7 (01:04:16):
Is that because it's a Friday?

Speaker 2 (01:04:20):
Let me think what you want to know why I'm good?

Speaker 4 (01:04:23):
Yes?

Speaker 2 (01:04:24):
Okay, So the weather's come right excellent. I've got a
lot of things to do on the weekend which I'm
excited about.

Speaker 7 (01:04:32):
Excellent.

Speaker 2 (01:04:33):
I've got kids sport which will be exciting. It'll be
an outside day. There's a lot to be excited about
at the moment, and coming into some which I love.

Speaker 7 (01:04:44):
So Marcus, anyho, what I rang tonight about? Is that
you know it's full moon and you don't sleep.

Speaker 2 (01:04:55):
It's me, yeah, okay, and you don't sleep, but are
then energized the next morning.

Speaker 7 (01:05:01):
I don't think so. I don't think I've ever been
in a dry I see.

Speaker 2 (01:05:04):
For me, it's like and not so much. I work nights.
But once upon a time I woke up after no
sleep like a jack in the box. I was. I
had sensational days. Those three days around the full moon
that were they were the best days ever.

Speaker 7 (01:05:18):
Oh well, I'd like a bit of that place.

Speaker 2 (01:05:21):
Yeah, And I don't. And I never thought of it.
I'd always I was never someone that was going to
be the film where I have a great day, but
I'd always not sleep and then wake up fully energized.

Speaker 4 (01:05:31):
Awesome, yeah, awesome.

Speaker 7 (01:05:33):
And I also used I also so, I used to
I've got to dreams for a long time, but I'm
going to do it again. Cut my hair on a
new moon.

Speaker 2 (01:05:46):
Yes, you should do that. You must do that, and.

Speaker 7 (01:05:49):
It grows better and happier. And the other one was
my sister used to sleepwalk, and should you naked and
all sorts of wow.

Speaker 2 (01:06:05):
If I sleep walking, if I sleepwalking, I wouldn't sleep naked.
I'd sleep in a three piece suit.

Speaker 7 (01:06:11):
Three piece cut. I can actually imagine you doing NETMARKUS.

Speaker 2 (01:06:17):
Why don't you wake people? Why don't you wake people
when they sleepwalk?

Speaker 7 (01:06:21):
I'm not one hundred percent, but I think I years
ago that I had something to do with them coming
out of that being in the same state of mind.

Speaker 2 (01:06:33):
Leave it with me. I'm going to find out fully inquired, Rose,
Thank you. You'll get nice sleep tonight, Julia. So Rose,
I can't have a good night's sleep, Julian. And it's Marcus.
Good evening.

Speaker 21 (01:06:43):
I just wanted to tell people I've just been to
a great show in the cross Town Hall. So it's
a bit of a re review. It was called The
Divas and it was Jackie Clark, Susan Lynch and Tin
Across And if you want to go for a great
no entertainment to get up and have a bit of
a boogie around. I'm not quite sure where it's going

(01:07:03):
to next. I think it possibly is going down, but yeah,
look it's a great show. You will certainly get your
money's worth and lots of amazing songs and three New
Zealand amazing things.

Speaker 2 (01:07:16):
Hang on, was there only three? Was it not any
Crummer in there? Did you say any Crumber?

Speaker 6 (01:07:21):
No?

Speaker 21 (01:07:21):
No, it was only a advertised as these three because I.

Speaker 2 (01:07:25):
Thought there was a bigger one going around that was
like like a winter cats away thing. But no, you
might be right. Jackie Clark, well, she's a phenom, she's phenomenal.

Speaker 21 (01:07:36):
Suzanne Lynch ex che Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:07:41):
Yeah, tc And what was the canon? What was it?
Beck Cannon?

Speaker 4 (01:07:48):
What do you mean by that?

Speaker 21 (01:07:49):
Sorry, I'm not with it.

Speaker 2 (01:07:50):
Be What do you mean by bet Cannon? What? What
artists were they? Did they sing adele?

Speaker 21 (01:07:58):
They sang? They sang?

Speaker 2 (01:08:01):
Did they sing Stevie Nicks?

Speaker 10 (01:08:03):
Yes?

Speaker 2 (01:08:04):
Did they sing with the Houston greatest Love of All?

Speaker 21 (01:08:07):
Correct?

Speaker 2 (01:08:08):
Shania Twain didn't impress me much? Okay, what about did
they sing Dolly Parton? G what about?

Speaker 11 (01:08:19):
What about?

Speaker 2 (01:08:20):
What about bit Middle of the Rose?

Speaker 21 (01:08:22):
No, they've sung bit Middler give Me Wings.

Speaker 2 (01:08:26):
I'd sing the Rose and they sang ah.

Speaker 21 (01:08:32):
They sang a selection from Mamma Mia, And they ended
up with the greatest ever of all.

Speaker 2 (01:08:37):
Preddy Mercury, I hate, I hate, I hate Freddy Mercury's music.
What did they sing? They sing that pompous No?

Speaker 21 (01:08:47):
No, that one behem me and ratchy.

Speaker 2 (01:08:51):
Oh goodness, Okay, I just I just can't. I just
can't get into Queen. I appreciate people that can, and
good on them for having them, but it's just not
my thing. It's like Cliff Richard leaves me cold, but
that's your thing. So that's just me.

Speaker 21 (01:09:11):
Well, I've seen Cliff a few times and it's it's
quite got funny for a guy that has got a
great voice and and you know, everything else goes, he
has got no rhythm when he's on stage, you cannot
have to save himself.

Speaker 2 (01:09:26):
No, no, but that's I mean, yeah, but do you
have any Did he have any rhythm when he was
with the Shadows?

Speaker 21 (01:09:34):
No, not really, he just sort of.

Speaker 2 (01:09:37):
Yeah, they still didn't they end swayed. I quite like
it wasn't the thing.

Speaker 21 (01:09:41):
He wasn't the thing that he was doing.

Speaker 2 (01:09:43):
But did they hang on Jillian? Did did they have
good bens with the crowd?

Speaker 5 (01:09:48):
Oh?

Speaker 21 (01:09:49):
Yeah no, Look the crowds were up and going. They
Look they had to bass guitar ist, league guitarist, drummer,
a guy on piano and organ, and you could have
it sounded like a full orchestra. There was pieces in
there that sounded like there was a brass fiction uh
and strings. Yeah they look they honestly, they were just

(01:10:09):
amazing and they you know, they're all getting on a
bit now, but they've still got it.

Speaker 2 (01:10:14):
Were christ people dancing in the aisle, they were. I
hate that. I hate that with the older crowds are yep,
they get looking like reliving the youth dancing around.

Speaker 21 (01:10:25):
Yeah, well I must admit I was part of that
at one.

Speaker 2 (01:10:27):
No, no, I was telling you to sit down or sad,
because it's the other thing is people people think it's
going to be seated, show that people dancing it gets awkward.
Didn't get awkward.

Speaker 21 (01:10:36):
No, I didn't.

Speaker 7 (01:10:37):
Look.

Speaker 21 (01:10:37):
Whenever I go to any of these countries, I always
get an aisle seat because it means I can get
up and dance in the isle without somebody stepping me
on the shoulder and tell me sit down.

Speaker 2 (01:10:48):
YEA terrible, isn't it.

Speaker 21 (01:10:49):
Yeah, okay, get an aisle seat.

Speaker 2 (01:10:52):
Oh that's a good review for that, and not any
hang on, hang about, hang about any now, let me
ayby white House exactly. One's going to say, what song
whose day sing?

Speaker 21 (01:11:06):
Take Me to the River? I think it was. Yeah,
say you know there's everybody who's mentioned you know they've
did a couple of songs of each.

Speaker 2 (01:11:16):
Okay, well, I appreciate that you didn't. Thank you. It
was good guessing for me. I was reading off the
poster revelnerd jam Pack Night of Classics for the best
of the basic clin a wreath of Fraklin, Dolly Barton,
Bette Midler, Whitney, Houston, Stephen Extenda, do Ever Beyonce, Adele,

(01:11:37):
Shania Twain and many many more. I think take me
to the river as that Holly. Anyway, Ah Jeepers Ted
has email. This is a very important email. We are
listening to news talk z B VIAS starlink and we
are working at a very isolated place in the Southern

(01:11:58):
Indian Ocean called Herd and McDonald Islands, Australian Territory. We're
at sea for one hundred days and time down here.
Huge bright supermoon here last night, next special moon eventus
sturdy first descend. The news eve is called a black moon,

(01:12:19):
second new moon in a calendar month. We've only just
started to be able to listen stream using radio because
of starlink. It's great to listen to what's happening while
we are so far away. Regards Ted Ted, are you
on land or on a ship? I presume they're on
a ship. They say at sea for one hundred days.

(01:12:39):
I'll google up the herd in McDonald Islands. I know
nothing about that. All the lines are available if you've
got anything of interest to say to me tonight. My
name is Marcus. Welcome oh eight hundred and eighty eight
to nine nine to heard in McDonald Islands. Flag of
Australia two thirds of the way from Madagascar to Antarctica

(01:13:01):
cheapest heard and McDonald Island contain Australia's only two active volcanoes.
It's fascinating. That's absolutely fascinating, absolutely fascinating. That's a email,
a treasure. Marcus. The nationally and P only used the

(01:13:24):
L letters to the forehead. He told them to if
off if you see k if you call him a
loser as well. That's the situation there. Waking up sleepwalkers too,
that was the other thing I wasn't. I promised that
women have an answer about that. Why do you not
wake up asleep? I don't know about sleepwalking only because
I'm not a sleepwalker. I never seen anyone sleepwalker kind
of I just think it's people walking away and they

(01:13:47):
get caught and they shut their eyes. That's what I've
always thought. Oh, here we go, let me shut my eyes.
Prim seems too comical. That's just me though. I'm a
sleepwalk denier because it was such a big deal. Yeah,
I don't know. Prove me I'm wrong. Oh I'm a

(01:14:08):
sleepwalking Amercus. I can't believe you. Reckon I do. It's sleepwalk.
If we want to argue about sleepwalking, I'm up for
that tonight. How we go with the predictions? Not much
about the predictions tonight? Is there? Nothing's been? No one
predicted that Liam guy for Liam Pain did they Well,
it's not something you predict, is it. Anyone predicted that

(01:14:36):
India would be rattled for forty six?

Speaker 5 (01:14:40):
Dan?

Speaker 12 (01:14:41):
Okay?

Speaker 2 (01:14:42):
Well, for goodness sake, M don't think what some of
the other predictions might be. That people are predicted. What
about the America's cup prediction? Do you won protict me?
Think about America America's cups? Top ten peeves for workers
in an office. Top one when other people don't do

(01:15:04):
their jobs properly, Second one wh the information I need,
Third one when I micro managed, Fourth one when people
don't respect me. Fifth one when they get critified work.
Sixth one when people don't listen to me. Nothing about
the Melbourne Cup sweeps. Take that's my pet pee for
the person that wastes the whole day doing that drives me,
See Raisy, that's just me. I remember, if you're doing

(01:15:27):
a Christmas cake fundraiser, I'm all about that. Let us
know what that is. If anyone's doing Christmas I only
saw I think the Riverton Lions Club are doing it,
so I thought i'd help publicize some of the others.
Villam Ats, Marcus welcome.

Speaker 3 (01:15:41):
Ah, hi there, I'm just on my drive home. And
then the topic of Harold.

Speaker 2 (01:15:47):
The Sorry good good, you've been driving home?

Speaker 18 (01:15:50):
Good?

Speaker 2 (01:15:50):
Yes?

Speaker 21 (01:15:51):
Oh yeah, yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:15:52):
I then the topic of Herald Island came on, and
you know, it threw me back to back when I
was in university, not too long ago. I'm only twenty four,
but I was in university in South Africa and and
we had the opportunity to go on a trip to
Harold Island.

Speaker 2 (01:16:12):
You're choking.

Speaker 6 (01:16:14):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:16:15):
I didn't end up going because you know, it's a
depressed but as a part of my I was part
of the biology faculty, the science faculty, and they do
a sort of the you know, the professors and whatnot
in the university. They go on trips there and do
a lot of research at things, and so we learned
a whole lot about it, you know, about the sort

(01:16:35):
of ecosystem and uh, you know, the big thing that
Harold Island is about is that the Albert trusses go
there to breed and so quite interesting. But I thought
i'd just say hi.

Speaker 2 (01:16:50):
And hey, look that's fantastic because also because when you
called and so I want to talk about Harold Island,
I'd forgotten I'd mentioned that. I thought you would talk
about Harold Island and Auckland Harbor, which obviously go to
Harold Island as well.

Speaker 3 (01:17:02):
Oh yeah, no, I.

Speaker 2 (01:17:04):
Think I hang about it. I'm sure we aren't talking
about that, because I never heard about Herold. So from
the shots I've seen quickly on the internet, and you
will know more about this than me because you studied
it before you went there. It's like it's such a
latitude that it almost appears to be one giant or

(01:17:25):
two giant volcanoes that are predominantly covered in snow all
the year round.

Speaker 3 (01:17:30):
Is that right, yeah, yeah, and it's it's well it's
tundra basically, right, Yeah, it's so close to Antarctica, it's
freezing cold. But yeah, it's it's such a very delicate
ecosystem as well, even though there's the volcanoes. Uh, you know,
I think I said, I think I said Herald Island.

(01:17:51):
I mean Herd Island.

Speaker 2 (01:17:53):
That's right. That's why I slightly confused.

Speaker 3 (01:17:55):
Yeah, yeah, but yeah, it's but there's a quite an
interesting story about it that I sort of learned, which
was because of the travels and things, there was a
bit of an issue with the birds and sort of
their breeding because rats were introduced to the island, yep,

(01:18:16):
and so the rats kind of went haywire in there,
and and then what they tried to do was they
tried to introduce cats to the island to get rid
of the rats. But then what the what happened was
the cats went feral and they started they started killing
the birds and eating the eggs and all sorts of things.

(01:18:36):
So it kind of just doubled up the problem. And
so yeah, that's just a bit of interesting factor. But
Herd Island, and yeah, I would have loved to go.

Speaker 2 (01:18:46):
Oh yeah, clearly. So for those people from your school
or university that went was was it straightforward to get there?
There was a because it doesn't appear on Google Maps
to be a wharf. Do they have kind of rubber boats?
They came up? How did they went on a big ship?
Did they?

Speaker 7 (01:19:02):
Oh?

Speaker 3 (01:19:02):
Yeah, I mean herd Island is it's heaps far. I
mean it's not like a little bit away. It's it's
you know, you go on a big massive on a
massive ship or research ship. They take you down to
the island. You stay. You know, it's like a whole
month sort of thing.

Speaker 2 (01:19:19):
But I can't see any I can't see any any
wolfs or any way or any inhabitation or any way
to get onto the I I.

Speaker 3 (01:19:26):
Think, yeah, yeah they I think they there's a base there.
But they Yeah, I think they they either stop the
ship and take the duck or they they take a
from the from the ship, they take a helicopter.

Speaker 2 (01:19:41):
That makes sense.

Speaker 3 (01:19:42):
Yeah, yeah, and then they sort of take all the
equipment and things. But yeah, as far as I know,
they you know, they take the big ship down and
they they park it around there perhaps or the ship
sort of it sort of will make a couple of
trips around. Then you go to the other other island,
do some research in the water and whatnot.

Speaker 2 (01:20:02):
Oh, I'm really compleased you came through. Well, it's always
nice to mention someone and hear more about it. So
there we go. It's Australia's only two active volcanoes, are there? Yeah?
I think no one went on to it in about
eighteen fifty six. Very exciting to read it did something

(01:20:24):
I didn't know anything about. There have been people on
it from nineteen forty seven to nineteen fifty five. That'll
be during the war tup to do that, I would imagine.
Despite the lack of population, the islands have been assigned
the country code HM and ISO three one sixty six one,
and therefore the Internet top level domain dot HM. The

(01:20:45):
island's only natural resources fish. The Australian government allows limited
fishing in the surrounding waters. There are no active military
installations or defense personnal on the islands. Good evening, Louise,
it's Marcus. Welcome.

Speaker 13 (01:21:00):
Oh hi Marcus.

Speaker 20 (01:21:02):
Yeah, I did sleep walk with only one really.

Speaker 5 (01:21:08):
Yeah.

Speaker 20 (01:21:09):
I used to until I had therapy, have a reoccurring
nightmare where I would think I was in a room
a dream. I was in a room with no door
and no windows, and it was terrifying. And one, yeah, one,
it was a formal reaction. One night, my daughter came

(01:21:33):
into my room because I was at the window bashing
on the window. Let me out, let me out, and
she guided me back to bed. Any idea what was
I sort of part knew what was happening, but not really.
And another time I rung her up and she sounded

(01:21:55):
really strange, and I couldn't figure out what that would
go on. She sounded really echoing, and and it turned
out that I was talking to when she's asleep and
she was answering.

Speaker 2 (01:22:11):
So once you sort of, once you sawt out your
traw me, you didn't sleepwalk anymore, Is that right?

Speaker 20 (01:22:16):
H Yeah, only sleepwalk once? Was that nightmare? Yeah, but
I've had the nightmare a lot. Yes. It's a thing
called eye movement decidization, and it worked.

Speaker 5 (01:22:30):
I don't know.

Speaker 2 (01:22:31):
I don't know anything about the traum. If it's going
to give you the he beach, I don't want to
know anything about that. But anyway, okay, yeah, well it's
gone there anyway, So your sleepwalking was actually acting out
your dream.

Speaker 8 (01:22:45):
Yep.

Speaker 2 (01:22:47):
Wow.

Speaker 20 (01:22:47):
So I don't know why you can't wake up someone
who's sleepwalking.

Speaker 2 (01:22:54):
I think that would be the kindest thing to do.

Speaker 20 (01:22:57):
Yeah, I would have thought so, but I've heard that too,
and I don't know why. But talking to my daughter
when she was sleeping, it was really that was weird.

Speaker 2 (01:23:06):
So she she was sleep phoning? Was she.

Speaker 5 (01:23:10):
I rang her sleep?

Speaker 2 (01:23:13):
Answer?

Speaker 21 (01:23:14):
Really weird?

Speaker 20 (01:23:16):
It's found really weird. And then I said something to
her a few days later, but mama's asleep then. Anyway,
I really like Hunted.

Speaker 7 (01:23:28):
But.

Speaker 20 (01:23:30):
Not the The English one is a little but I
don't know, it's just not Yeah, it's the like that
person said, the one is way better.

Speaker 2 (01:23:43):
Where's where do you watch the Asie one.

Speaker 8 (01:23:47):
On?

Speaker 20 (01:23:49):
Oh god, it's on tour I think before the UK one.

Speaker 2 (01:23:54):
Okay, so on TV So you get on TV TVD
on demand?

Speaker 20 (01:23:58):
Yeah, probably, yeah you would.

Speaker 2 (01:24:01):
What are the what are the rules about not being
allowed any money or anything? What are the rules for it?

Speaker 20 (01:24:05):
I don't know what the rules about money are, but
you know, you can use technology, but if you do,
they'll track you down there.

Speaker 2 (01:24:15):
So everyone goes straight to family friends, which is straight
on Facebook. So it's so easy to track down, I
disappear for years.

Speaker 20 (01:24:25):
I could as I was healthy, and I would do it,
and that's the last thing I'd do. What one a
couple of girls and they knew that the Hunters had
been there or something was and they had in the war.

Speaker 8 (01:24:42):
Dropper was fine.

Speaker 2 (01:24:46):
I mean it does make the British look quite hopeless.

Speaker 20 (01:24:48):
I thought, yeah, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:24:54):
I watched the auzy one Luise, thank you. My name
is Marcus. Welcome head twelve full moon supermoon, No comment,
main discussion tonight. It's been about the bad behavior at
the National Party, the minister member, the Minister for Small Business.
There was a story that was released on a Friday
afternoon that was about the apology Todd a guy to
if off if you see k off back home and

(01:25:15):
caught him a loser and made the l side on
his forehead. So there we go. He's been told off
by the Prime Minister, but nothing's going to happen to him.
That's a situation there. Although if something happens again, I
think they have to do something because it seems not
a good look. And most people rang up said they
thought it was pretty poor form, especially in the Minister

(01:25:36):
of Small Business doing a terur of a small business.
I mean, yeah, anyway, I don't think it's a funny
side to it, apart from how ghastly the guy's behavior was.
I mean, what adult acts like that? Like no one.
I wanted to talk to people that can't sleep in
the full moon and why they think that is. And

(01:25:57):
the other thing I want to know about people that
can't sleep during the full moon. How come is it
you never know the full moon's coming up? Because I
was like that for a long long time, always a fullman,
I'm not going to sleep tonight, I'll plan something else.
You kind of go to be down a whiz and
then it's been the whole night kind of not be
able to sleep, thinking well, why can't I sleep? In

(01:26:18):
the morning he realized it was a full moon. But
I always wake up quite energized. Yeah, but now I
go to sleep late at night. It doesn't affect me.
What does affect me is the sheep. We've got a sheep,
and I'll tell you what is that noisy boy. We're
feeding it and so it's almost through its sack of feed.

(01:26:40):
It's on a three hour it's on a three time
all day feed. But it gets fed at seven, but
it's not fed by twelve. Boy, what the recket it makes?
I'm surprised the neighbors haven't rung the council. I'm almost
expecting the call because it's not a pleasant sound either,
a sheep, and it's not a very nice natured sheep.

(01:27:03):
It's quite demanding anyway, got my love for it. We've
got a bit of love for it. Sort of abandoned
at birth, but it's a hard sheep to like. Hasn't
made itself an easy life. I don't reckon we haven't
even named it anyway, Ryan Marcus, welcome.

Speaker 10 (01:27:27):
Hey, Hi, Ryan, Hey, what's up?

Speaker 2 (01:27:31):
Well, you've wrung me and hopefully it's about sleepwalking?

Speaker 8 (01:27:33):
Right, Oh, it is for sure about sleepwalking.

Speaker 2 (01:27:36):
You tell me more.

Speaker 8 (01:27:38):
Well, I have been sleepwalking ever since I was a
little really, yeah, I've been caught multiple times by my mom.
She found it quite hilarious.

Speaker 2 (01:27:49):
So proper sleepwalking, not you pretending, not quite, it's not
you faking it.

Speaker 8 (01:27:55):
Well here one of them was you know those dreams
you get when you have to go to the bathroom. Yes,
my mom caught me sleepwalking to a cabinet in the
house and I opened the drawer I start peeing in
the drawer and I'm like four five at the time.

Speaker 2 (01:28:12):
Wow, wow, okay, well that's quite common.

Speaker 8 (01:28:18):
But this one happened maybe two weeks ago where I
was sleepwalking in my flat and my flatmate caught me
in their room looking for cups.

Speaker 5 (01:28:30):
Wow.

Speaker 2 (01:28:31):
So was it tied into the dream? Were you looking
for cups in your dream?

Speaker 8 (01:28:36):
Oh? I just like, I don't know. I don't think
I was looking for cups in my dreams, but I
know that they woke me up, and I just thought
that I was trying to get cups when I was
clearly asleep in bed. But I was trying to get cups,
like that's what I thought I was doing when I
woke up. It was very confusing.

Speaker 2 (01:28:53):
And why do people say not wake up asleepwalker? What's
that about?

Speaker 14 (01:28:58):
Well?

Speaker 8 (01:28:58):
I think it's because of that confusion, because like, you
somewhat know what you were doing when you wake up,
but you have no idea of what led to that,
you know.

Speaker 2 (01:29:08):
So you'd be would be better off just taking the
caps and walking back or something.

Speaker 8 (01:29:13):
Yeah. I probably would have walked back and gone into
bed and been like, yep, I got my cups, but
what have.

Speaker 2 (01:29:17):
You found cups were looking for invisible cups.

Speaker 8 (01:29:21):
Well, yeah, I didn't find any cups. I was just
searching for cups.

Speaker 2 (01:29:25):
Okay, I'm none the wiser Ryan, but thank you. I
like it. Joe Marcus, Welcome, Hi, Joe.

Speaker 5 (01:29:32):
How Hi Hi.

Speaker 13 (01:29:33):
I want to tell you a story about when I
was at school boarding school.

Speaker 2 (01:29:38):
Is how long ago?

Speaker 15 (01:29:40):
Oh?

Speaker 13 (01:29:40):
Well, I'm ninety three now.

Speaker 2 (01:29:42):
Goodness fantastic, yes, But.

Speaker 13 (01:29:44):
However, this happened when I was a boarding at boarding
school and my best friend was in the same dormitory
as me, the bed the next one, and then my girlfriend.
We both had a window in our cubicles and she's

(01:30:06):
I thought that I was outside calling her out, and
she lifted the window and stepped out.

Speaker 11 (01:30:14):
It was.

Speaker 13 (01:30:16):
A high, big building with a convent, and the ceilings
were high, and she stepped out, fell onto the garden
below and screamed. And the nun that was in the
dormitory she scurried out down the stairs and I went

(01:30:38):
with her. But she wasn't badly hurt, but badly bruised. Wow,
but she was asleep. She just thought that I was
out there calling.

Speaker 2 (01:30:47):
Her, and I presume the bang woke her up.

Speaker 13 (01:30:55):
It must be as she hit the ground. But they
called the ambulance and they took her up to hospital
but there was nothing broken, just bruising.

Speaker 2 (01:31:07):
And did she continue then to sleepwalk? Was that part
of her life that she was a sleepwalker?

Speaker 13 (01:31:13):
No, that was the only time.

Speaker 2 (01:31:15):
The only time.

Speaker 16 (01:31:16):
Yes.

Speaker 2 (01:31:18):
And was it because of stress or because of a
different environment or did they say why she would have
done that then?

Speaker 13 (01:31:24):
No, it was just they must she must have been
dreaming because she said she heard me calling her, which
I didn't. I was in there two beds down from her.

Speaker 2 (01:31:36):
Must be of real sort of vivid. Yeah, okay, because
it makes no sense to me.

Speaker 13 (01:31:43):
Strange.

Speaker 2 (01:31:44):
Yeah, nuns are the nuns.

Speaker 13 (01:31:48):
The nuns were very concerned. I think I had She
gave me a creamy months and I think she gave
Colin the brand new We were fifteen or sixteen.

Speaker 2 (01:32:04):
Wow, Joe, what were the name of the school, just
so I can picture?

Speaker 13 (01:32:08):
It was a Sacred Heart at tim Rowth, Brilliant.

Speaker 2 (01:32:13):
I thought it might have been around about there, Joe,
Thank you so very much for that. But that's a
great story from days gone by. The Minister Andrew Bailey
should know about the live by the Mantra alcohol doesn't
does nobody any favors? Well, he said he wasn't drinking
classic drinking jeckl and hide behavior after the break as
it sparked tomorrow won twenty bucks for Lara and I
and three of the kids. That's five for one twenty

(01:32:35):
good for a reasonable price. Have a good week in
jk or ak all about sleepwalking and not sleeping on
a full moon and the behavior of the National Party
MP that did the loser sign with the hand that's
common amongst infants. But yeah, you might want to mention

(01:32:56):
that also not a good look. I mean you might
be a die in the wild Tory and plenty of
them have come through and said, oh, well, who's leaked
this story? Every one sees a conspiracy. I don't see
bad but which is kind of a shame. They just
want to absolve someone from being ghastly. What man in
their sixties who's a minister calls someone a loser and

(01:33:17):
tells them to if you see kof I'm fine about
kind of. You know, you'd have been a partisan political person.
But cheap has called it like it is. And I've
had about four hundred texts and say what about what about?
What about? This person or what about that person? As
I don't go around my life and I see something bad,
I don't go. What about? I call it that's good

(01:33:39):
or that's bad. Some stuff you tolerate, some stuff you
don't tolerate, you don't go.

Speaker 3 (01:33:45):
What about?

Speaker 2 (01:33:46):
Marcus, our fifteen year old son, has been a sleepwalker
since he was a very young boy. It's not unusual
to find him muddled in the hallway or kitchen saying
and doing random things, but most commonly we just hear
him begging and crashing around his bedroom. He knocks things
off shelves and makes a mess, often enthusiastically rabbiting about

(01:34:09):
fishing or mountain biking, has two passions. He never has
the memory of it in the morning, apart from a
vague memory of the actual dream he was having. So
that's interesting. It seems to be dream related, which makes sense,
but no one ever says that kind of think it's

(01:34:29):
poorly studied. Steve, Marcus welcome.

Speaker 5 (01:34:32):
I hey Magus, just bringing up I'm asleep, Walter done
it all my life and I still do.

Speaker 14 (01:34:38):
So.

Speaker 5 (01:34:40):
Yeah, I've been tested for a few times and no
one's really found the cause of it. But it's probably
most nights, so I do something in the sleep.

Speaker 2 (01:34:49):
Wow? Really?

Speaker 5 (01:34:52):
Yeah?

Speaker 10 (01:34:53):
Yeah.

Speaker 5 (01:34:53):
I went to see a sleep tanic at the Aucland Hospital,
stayed for a couple of nights and they blew twenty
six wires onto my head and all they came up
was the neurologist said that one of my brain patterns,
it should go to zero when I sleep drops about
a quarter. So I'm still taking things in and I
haven't really into a proper sleep yet.

Speaker 2 (01:35:16):
And it's arams that they know the different types of sleep.
Is that right?

Speaker 5 (01:35:21):
I don't remember what it was, but he said it
happens in the first two stages or the last two
stages of sleep normally, and that might be the RAM sleep,
but mine always happens sort of between midnight and two o'clock,
so I think it's the first two stages for me.
I vera really do it in the before I wake up.

Speaker 2 (01:35:40):
Do they medicate for it?

Speaker 5 (01:35:42):
They gave me some He's quite clear to say, I'm
not depressed, but he gave me some antidepression antidepressants and
I took them for two weeks and he said they'll
take two weeks to work and then they'll they'll cack
in and they worked for two weeks and then I
kind of got immune to them. They did nothing. And
when I'm like you said, the brain patterns don't go

(01:36:05):
to zero. Like I could tell you what happened during
the night. If someone said it it rain, I can say, yes,
it rained. Halfway through I'm kind of still taking things in.
But when I was on the antidepressants, what did all
I can think of? If I wake up in the
morning and someone said, what happened last night, I could
say nothing. It was black, which is just like a
full sleep.

Speaker 2 (01:36:23):
Which is what proper sleep is here and you're not
and you're not someone that gets tired. The fact you
haven't got that deep sleep you sleep well, I mean
apart from the sleepwalking. You're someone that wakes up and
you don't feel like you haven't slept well.

Speaker 5 (01:36:37):
He asked me if I've ever had a good night's sleep,
and I said, yeah, I think I have, And turns
out talking to other people, I don't think I ever
have because I'm always tired. I could always do with
more sleep, But.

Speaker 2 (01:36:51):
You still dream. You still have that dream sleep, that
dream state, Oh.

Speaker 5 (01:36:56):
Yeah, definitely, yeah, yeah, And once I'm past this a
couple of a couple of stages of sleep. I'm okay,
but I'll still wake up. Like sleepwalking is not always
about walking around with your hands in front of you
like a zombie. It's often describe it a sense of
urgency or a sense of panic. You'll see someone in

(01:37:16):
the room. It's comes with night terrors as well, and
I'll often jump up and run the out of the room.
A couple of times I've made it out of the
house and down the road a little bit. But most
of the time you're looking for something or you leave
the room, and as someone reminds me in the morning,
you came out to the kitchen last night, sort of thing.
It all comes back to me. I remember that, I

(01:37:37):
remember looking for something to the point that I've woken
up once with a sore foot and didn't know why.
And as soon as I walked out of the kitchen,
I saw some plates out and some of them had broken.
I had a little piece of the plate in my foot.
And as soon as you see that, you remember that panic,
the search looking through the cupboard, and at the time
I don't even know what I was looking for, but
I remember doing it.

Speaker 2 (01:37:59):
So you're not dreaming and you're not awake, you are
sleeping and doing that, but there's an awareness of it.

Speaker 5 (01:38:06):
Yeah, there's definitely a weakness when you're doing it. And
I've sometimes wake myself up and they say it's like
being hypnotized, where you're open to suggestions. You'll do reasonable suggestions.
And if someone like if I walk out of the
room and someone says your sleep walk and go back
to bed, and this has been told to me before

(01:38:27):
I remember it, and I turn around and go straight
back to bed.

Speaker 2 (01:38:33):
Do you wake up in the morning and wonder where
you've been or you kind of because you get up
and can walk around then go back to bed and
without waking, can you.

Speaker 5 (01:38:41):
Yeah, there's probably times like I don't know if I've
done it and not knowing about it because obviously don't.
But sometimes I know I've had a bad sleep, or
I know I've had a panic in the middle of
the night and or jumped up, and often the sleepwalking
is very very short. You'll have this panic an urgency
to escape, and you'll grab you you do off your
bed and you'll run out of the room trying to
hide under it, and you don't know where you're going.

(01:39:03):
But you just have to go and certain things trigger it.
I mean there's houses I've looked in that have been
worse than others. And I don't know whether it's just
coincidence or not. If it rains in the middle of
the night and it's the most overpowering desire to go
and sometimes go stand out in the rain and feel it,

(01:39:26):
it's very very powerful when it happens.

Speaker 2 (01:39:28):
Have you set an me up any video cameras for it?

Speaker 5 (01:39:32):
No, I haven't done. I've recorded it and audio recording
because sleepwalking comes with it there's a lot of talking
during the night.

Speaker 2 (01:39:43):
Did the sleep clinic have they got more options for
you as that? At antidepressants?

Speaker 5 (01:39:48):
They gave me that and then they put me on
another one. He told me it was very addictive, and
when I went to get it the farm, he gave
me a three month prescription, but the pharmacy said, look,
I'll give you one month and two repeats because it's
quite addictive. So I took it for the first month
and no effect at all, just nothing for me. So
I decided not to take it. And after that month

(01:40:10):
when I went to bed, I don't know what the
pill was, but it was pink. I would get in
my bed for this first couple of nights, and even
though I had no effect, I think, you said, pink pill,
I need one. I need one, So even to the
point of rummaging through the bed so I can in
case one has fallen in there.

Speaker 2 (01:40:24):
That's a worry. That's a worry.

Speaker 12 (01:40:26):
Yeah.

Speaker 5 (01:40:27):
So I decided not to carry on with that. And
all I was looking for was is there a cause
for it? And is there something I can take, like
if I've gone away. We went on a work trip
once to wake the Island, and I thought, I don't
want to do it in front of workmates, so it
say something I can take for that night, just to
just control it.

Speaker 2 (01:40:45):
Would you be happy locking a door?

Speaker 4 (01:40:46):
Well?

Speaker 2 (01:40:46):
Can you lock doors? I suppose you can if you're on.

Speaker 5 (01:40:48):
That Oh that's the thing people say to me, why
don't you lock the door? And I had a house
worth to climb out the window. Now, you'll never climb
out a two story window, because you know what's right
and wrong. But like I said, there's an overpower and
desire to do something. So I'd hop out the window,
which is quite low, and I'd come in the front door.
People would say why don't you lock the front door,

(01:41:08):
But you're so desperately want to do it, you're going
to get your keys first because you know what you're doing,
but you just don't know why you're doing it. And
you'll go out the window, unlock the door, walk in
the door, lock the door, and ab its bed.

Speaker 2 (01:41:21):
And you can always lock the door for the nside either,
can you. Okay, see Steve Lovely to talk to you.
Thank you so very much for that sleepwalking. By the way,
and Andrew Bailey to the National MP that has apologized
for his behavior at a visit of a workplace. Some
texts about that. I'll read the text. Marcus. I wouldn't
be living on a boat, go on a cruisehub, even
start a camping ground if I were a sleepwalker, Marcus.

(01:41:44):
When I was four years old, I was enrolled in
an experimental as a drug study. I started sleepwalking out,
run down the hallway and throw myself at the wall. Marcus.
My grandson slept talks and sleepwalks. He rang his a
moment for in the next room, questioning her about what
they were doing about it, who was sorting it? She
clicked and told him so she would to go back
to sleep. Next morning, he had no recollection. Mark's I

(01:42:06):
agree with you about the MP totally. What a disgusting
way to talk to anyone. I can't think of anything
positive to say about his behavior. I wonder how long
before his next faux pare penny. There we go twenty nine. Well,
people start looking for it, don't They might have already happened,
might not have already happened. But there you go twenty
nine to twelve. Jecki Marcus, Hello.

Speaker 18 (01:42:26):
Hello, So I don't have sleepwalking. I have sleep paralysis,
which is the opposite side of the coin. When you're
in rem sleep, your your body is kind of paralyzed,
so you don't act out your dreams, so you don't sleepwalk.
I wake up while my body is paralyzed. So I

(01:42:46):
can hear stuff, I can feel things, but I can't move,
and it's terrifying. It's horrible.

Speaker 6 (01:42:52):
I hate it.

Speaker 2 (01:42:52):
It sounds good, it sounds teerariars.

Speaker 18 (01:42:54):
Yeah, yeah, it's no good. But yeah, So I can
sympathize with sleepwalkers.

Speaker 2 (01:42:59):
Yeah, so tell me what might be happening for you.

Speaker 18 (01:43:02):
So I will. I will suddenly feel like the blankets
on my body. I will feel if it's hot, I'll
feel if it's cold, and I'll be aware of everything
around me. But I can't open my eyes, i can't
move my body, and I feel stuck in my body,
and it's so scary.

Speaker 2 (01:43:21):
I'm so pleased you've explained it for me like that,
because first time round, I didn't quite understand it. So
you are lying there, you're awake, but you can't move
where you can't open your eyes and work out what's
going Yeah, okay, well.

Speaker 18 (01:43:34):
Yeah, yeah, that's right, and that's your body does that
to keep you from you know, rummaging for cups in
your flatmates room or whatever. Rights, it makes sense because
we all have very active dreams, right, so, but you're
not supposed to wake up during that part where your
body is paralyzed, because then it's you know, it's very scary.

(01:43:56):
So it's always terrifying, even though I've had it many,
many times. And I feel like I can't breathe either,
and I feel like I need to just move a
little part of my body and then I'll be okay.
Then I can breathe again. And I do wake up
with a big gasp, and you know, my heart racing
and it's awful in that moment doesn't last very long,

(01:44:16):
just a couple of minutes. But yeah, it's an interesting thing.

Speaker 2 (01:44:18):
Eh, Jackie. How often.

Speaker 18 (01:44:21):
A couple of times a year, and it will happen
if I'm a bit sleep deprived or if I'm a
bit stressed. Yeah, but not you know, not every night,
not every month, but regularly.

Speaker 2 (01:44:33):
And there's no solution. I suppose it's so rare. I mean,
only a couple of times a year. You wouldn't want
to medicate all year for it, would you. So it's
about not getting stressed and tired. Is that what the
answer is? Yeah?

Speaker 18 (01:44:43):
Correct, So avoid caffeine, avoid LUTs of alcohol before bed.
If you're stressed, you know, go talk to someone about it.
But yeah, it's just one of those things that happens
because bodies are interesting and sometimes they get their wires crossed.

Speaker 2 (01:44:57):
Brilliant, great explanation, Jackie. Thank you, love talking to you.
Marcus Nithe Here have you seen the scene in the
movie of Step Brothers where Will Ferrell and John c
Riley steep sleep will No, I haven't, I will now though,
welcome people. Gee, it's good calls. Keep it going, sleepwalking. Wow,
they're quite articulate. Ay, maybe I'm not a sleepwalking denier.

(01:45:19):
I didn't tell that guy today because he sounded quite
convincing when he said work trip to why hecky, I thought, well,
you would be scared to go to why he had
a work trip if you're a sleepwalker, I believe it now.
Ooh Marcus Cajun Moon sung by Sissy Houston, I who
died on the Seventhrip, and nice listen Whitney's mother. Ooh,

(01:45:46):
I hope you can't hear me rattling Marubik's cube, can you?
I'm practicing for a showdown with Dan.

Speaker 7 (01:45:53):
I reckon.

Speaker 2 (01:45:53):
We have to go about eighty seconds to get it done.
But jep is tell you what. I'm quick at it now,
lightning quick. Probably every commercial breaker do it three or
four times? Did a lot? I'm never quite sure. Well,
maybe not that many, but it feels like it's about
that many. If you got traffic reports for me also tonight, peeps,

(01:46:17):
beck atcha oh eight, one hundred and eighty e Teddy
and ninety Marcus. If way I went, I was tested
for sleepwalking. I find out it was called auto somnambulism
and common males and most grow out by the age
of fourteen. The neurologist said, wow, and Marcus, welcome O.

Speaker 14 (01:46:35):
Hi Marcus, great show.

Speaker 6 (01:46:37):
Thank you.

Speaker 14 (01:46:39):
You can make it really difficult to tell around and
go to sleep.

Speaker 5 (01:46:42):
That's the plan, Marcus sleepwalking.

Speaker 14 (01:46:47):
I woke up as I was opening a pantry door.
I was woken up by my grandson. The problem being
is that I live three streets away and I had
woken up at home, stayed of my pajama's, gone down
of the garage, got in the car, go the car

(01:47:09):
to their play let myself into my daughter's house and
was opening up the pantry door, and my grandson said,
what are you doing here? Grandma? It was about three
o'clock in the morning, and I woke up. Then I
had no idea how at that stage Harold got there

(01:47:30):
or what I was doing there, and why would I
whir'd go into the pantry.

Speaker 2 (01:47:34):
I've got no idea exactly. Don't have any memory of the.

Speaker 3 (01:47:39):
Drive, no, none at all.

Speaker 2 (01:47:41):
Which is that's quite frightening.

Speaker 14 (01:47:44):
Oh, it is frightening. And also my husband didn't even
hear me or notice me going.

Speaker 2 (01:47:49):
I didn't you had a husband? Did you check your
car for dents?

Speaker 14 (01:47:55):
No? I don't think I would.

Speaker 2 (01:47:56):
Well, couldn't you on the way?

Speaker 14 (01:47:59):
Oh no, yeah, I could have had a ball, couldn't I.

Speaker 2 (01:48:02):
Well, they still do it.

Speaker 14 (01:48:07):
I don't travel now when I hit walk, which is good,
but I do occasionally, maybe once a month or so.
I'll get up in the morning and I noticed that
I've done something in the kitchen at night, like I
might have baked something, wow, made something, or got something

(01:48:27):
out of a freezer and started to get something. Really,
it's always food related. Yeah, an empty saucepin and I've
got no idea what I've cooked.

Speaker 2 (01:48:37):
Let's sleep. Let's sleep. Baking's next level. That's quite good.

Speaker 3 (01:48:40):
I like that.

Speaker 2 (01:48:45):
Leave something cooking and burn the house down.

Speaker 14 (01:48:48):
Well, that's always a concern because I've obviously used the
stoves because the saucepans are sitting in the sink, and
I'm smart enough even when I'm asleep fillow it up
with water and thet it's soaked.

Speaker 2 (01:49:00):
So yeah, I'm concerned enough baking when I'm when I'm alive,
and a wake up, left something on when sleep. Sleep
taking and delightful. Thank you so much. Oh wait, you
know the rest, Rocky, It's Marcus. Welcome today.

Speaker 10 (01:49:14):
Marcus, how are you sheep walking? Yes, yeah, I've done
it once. I've been out in the boat all day
and about eight and nine hours in this little boat
and come back. And that night we were sleeping on

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the in the lounge something at a holiday resort and
I woke up in the middle of the night and
I thought I was still on the boat.

Speaker 2 (01:49:49):
Oh wow.

Speaker 5 (01:49:51):
And I could see this light.

Speaker 10 (01:49:53):
In the corner, so and I thought I was on
the boat. And I was walking around the lound dream
hugging the wall, thinking I was on the boat. The
boat was going up and down, and I walked into
the I thought it was a porch, and there was.
I grabbed that and what it was was the bottom

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of a kettle and put the porch up, turned it
upside down on the right way out, thinking it was
a torch, and it was a kettle, and the water
was all over the floor. And I got out.

Speaker 3 (01:50:29):
How I was thinking I was still asleep.

Speaker 10 (01:50:35):
I know that's what happened. And the lunch come on
and everybody wake up, and I wake up with all
the light, and I had the kettle in my hand.
It was up to the water all over the floor,
and I was hanging on to the walls.

Speaker 2 (01:50:45):
Could you been drinking?

Speaker 5 (01:50:47):
No?

Speaker 10 (01:50:48):
No, no, not at all.

Speaker 2 (01:50:50):
No, no unless it substances.

Speaker 10 (01:50:52):
But it was robbably back and forth, and I was
an all day for about eight hours.

Speaker 2 (01:50:57):
You know that always you get that, you get that.
That asking efficked afterwards, don't you with that?

Speaker 10 (01:51:02):
Yeah? That was really funny. You know everybody couldn't wake
up me. There's me stepping there with the kettle up that.
But I thought I was I was drowning.

Speaker 2 (01:51:13):
You can become a bit of religion enough to do
something funny like that, can't. It becomes kind of you
nickname and stuff. Is that what happened?

Speaker 12 (01:51:18):
Yep?

Speaker 2 (01:51:20):
What do they call you?

Speaker 3 (01:51:21):
Do?

Speaker 2 (01:51:21):
They called your kid cattle or something something on that.
Marca n from your rock You almost time for me
to go.

Speaker 1 (01:51:30):
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