Thanks for saying pantograph (8 September 2025)

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Speaker 1 (00:07):
You're listening to the Marcus Lush Night's podcast from News Talks.

Speaker 2 (00:11):
I'd be.

Speaker 3 (00:13):
Greetings, good evening, Marcus till twelve. Welcome. I hope it's
good where you are. Eight past eight Monday, Oh, eight
hundred and eighty ten eight. A lot to talk about tonight.
That's all right, because we've got a long time to
talk about. If you want to be involved with the show,
the number is eight hundred eighty ten eighty and nine
to nine too, detict one of those nights. I don't
really know what the mood of what people want to
talk about is tonight, so we'll just have to try

(00:35):
and see. It's a night after a day off of
a lot of news and fairly well, fairly sobering news
also today. So look, i haven't been listening to the
radio today, but I'm not quite sure what people want
to say about what's happened. But if you yeah, well,
look we'll see where we go with that tonight. But

(00:57):
you know, sometimes often with things like this, it's a
good thing not to say anything. But you know, well,
I'm not trying to shout down speech, but you know,
I guess people had some hours to think about that.
But just be considered with what you do want to
say tonight, because there will be investigations and all sorts
of things, and hopefully, well hopefully now I'm not saying hopefully,

(01:19):
but I guess we look at the process of the
police investigation to work out what's happened and all those
sorts of things tonight. So look, I don't think there
will be more information out about that tonight. I think
probably Fortunately the children have been found, so that I'm
sure as are a left to everyone tonight. However, this
is more information. I'll bring that through to you. On

(01:41):
a slightly cheerier note. I can tell you on the
back of our South African all black sweep steak, we
have a winner, and the sweep steak was butter or builtong.
You could choose what if you had to choose the spread,
and if you were the winner, you could choose whether
you had butt or built tong, which I thought was

(02:03):
a fair choice. And we had fifty four entries, perhaps
fifty one, fifty two, fifty three, fifty fifty one, fifty two,
fifty three, fifty four to fifty five, fifty six clouding
the drawer. Fifty six people predicted what the school was
going to be the winner was a Lane. And funnily enough,

(02:25):
Elaine didn't want billtong or butter. Well, she wanted butter,
but she wanted peanut butter. So Elaine will be getting
a hundred dollars worth of peanut butter, which sounds like
a lot. Elaine will be in touch with you, or
you can text us and tell us which brand of
peanut butter you want, because I know that people are
funny about peanut butter these days. There's all sorts of

(02:46):
gourmet sorts of peanut butter. You might be an eater person,
you might be a sanitary, you might be a pems,
you might be a picks that seems to be the
one that's well, I think that's the one that's astraighted
owned now, is that right? But anyway, if you want
one of those, let us know what that is, and
we'll get a hundred dollars of peanut butter from the
cheapest place we can find, and we'll send it to you.
I imagine that of peanut butter and containers that Chris Costcos

(03:08):
would they damn giants. So we'll go to Costcos and
get you some giant stuff. I would have mentioned. So anyway,
do come to if you want to talk. Also tonight,
we have got a blood moon that is happening. I'm
not fully sure with the day's news. I've been busy.
I'm not quite sure if the blood moon is this
morning or tonight. But if you've got moonshots or moon
calls for us, let us know about that obviously. I

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am all there for your texts also tonight, so we'll
see how we go tonight if you want to be
in touch. Oh eight hundred eighty ten eighty and nine
to nine two de dicks are the blood moon first
and foremost, and then we'll talk about other things also,
and your comments and your opinion, so feel free to
partake in the show. As I say, oh eight hundred
eighty ten eighty and nine two nine to de tics.

(03:51):
I went to the Ranfrey Shield match on Saturday, which
was extraordinary because I was on my phone looking when
the weather front was going to have because it's about
to really go bad. But fortunately the game started at
five past four. The weather internary bads about five past
six just as we were leaving, but boy it went bad.
It was cold enough there, but then it really went bad.

(04:11):
With fork lightning or sheet lightning and stuff. So it
wasn't much of a game to watch. It was okay,
it's funny sitting the rug for the crowds of people,
isn't it, because you hear some classic things. No one
seemed particularly happy with the ref And yes, this is

(04:33):
what my son found hysterical. And once the once the
fighting broke out, the fight was broke out. In the
person of mind, I shouted punch the ref, which I
thought was extraordinary thing to say. But yeah, wow, imagine
shouting that punch the ref. Anyhow, get in touch, Marcus
still twelve the numbers eight hundred eighty, ten eighty and

(04:57):
nine to nine two detects you want to get in
touch eight hundred and eighty ten eighty anything I should
want to mention, Feel free to come through.

Speaker 4 (05:07):
Now.

Speaker 3 (05:09):
So yes, thirteen past thirteen past eight, and it's been
a phiry eavy day. So we'll see where we go
tonight with a talkback. So yes, I guess, as I said,
the good thing todays the children have been found, But
do come through, Graham as Marcus, welcome, good evening.

Speaker 5 (05:25):
Greeting some south and then the lunaric clips this morning.
We only saw the first half of the event from
New Zealand started about US four and it was already
fairly high up in the north, and by the time

(05:49):
we got to about five to six, which was start
of totality, the moon was almost right down, very low
on the western horizon. But we have every conditions all
night and norm morning, and we've got with the conditions
at the moments, and I started skying outside the aurora.

(06:13):
I'm predicted for the week or later in the weekend
did not appear to take place. But that's just a
lottery of astronomy.

Speaker 3 (06:24):
So it was worth getting up early for.

Speaker 5 (06:28):
Oh yeah, I've seen hitchel them. I just did you
get a decades? Uh No, I just couldn't be bothered.
I was just feel a really shattered of I've started
covering from my hospital stay about a couple of weeks ago,
and I've still got some issues with my breething and

(06:52):
just trying to I'll go after myself and spend the
time with his tamp in bed. By the way, the
doctors and ness gout really good care of me, and
I had some pretty serious and I can give them
high enough praise.

Speaker 6 (07:07):
They really wonderful.

Speaker 3 (07:08):
Are you on the Are you on the mend, Graham?

Speaker 5 (07:12):
I'm on the very slow mend, as you can tell
them my rassy voice. But there is another eclipse coming up,
I think in a few weeks, and that's going to
be a solar eclipse. That's the one that you need
eye protection for sure. That takes place during the daytime.
And there's a son.

Speaker 3 (07:34):
I think, really, I think the really good one, the
really good one is twenty twenty eight, isn't it correct.

Speaker 5 (07:40):
That's the one that's going to be a total eclipse.

Speaker 3 (07:44):
I think between Milford Sound, Queenstown and Denita. I've watched
the path of totality. Looks good.

Speaker 5 (07:51):
Yeah, well, I think it's actually centered on near near
Beaumont Miller's Flat. I think is about the dead center
of the totality line for that. Yeah. I did see
the one that was a near in nineteen nineteen ninety
six or something, and also one ninety one two. But

(08:13):
this will be a total end. It will be the
end of a lifetime. Ready here.

Speaker 3 (08:20):
Nice to hear from you, Graham. Thank you. Sixteen past eight, Christy,
it's market's welcome.

Speaker 7 (08:23):
Good evening, Good evening, Martha.

Speaker 8 (08:26):
How are you good.

Speaker 3 (08:26):
Thanks, Christy, you're there.

Speaker 8 (08:30):
Yeah, I'm here.

Speaker 3 (08:31):
What did you want to say?

Speaker 8 (08:33):
I was just ringing to have a chat about the
Tom Phillips thing that happened today, which is quite sad,
not the ending that I think anyone was hoping for.

Speaker 3 (08:43):
Yes, I'm sure there'very much discussion onto what alternative things
could have happened for that, for that ending not to
have happened. I don't know what the depend is. But
it's all just conjecture conjecture, isn't it, Because I guess
with different scenarios, you never really know what's going to happen.

Speaker 8 (08:58):
No, this is true, but I think there's also I
feel you would have had a lot of help, because
you can't hide in the bush for four years alone,
ken ye without having help and making sure your kids
are looked after. And obviously they were looked after to
some extent and obviously happy, healthy children. I mean they

(09:19):
had the chance, and they got spotted by those teenagers
was at the start of the year. I suppose if
they didn't, if they were willing to be, if they're dead,
they could have quite easily ran to those teenagers that
were out hunting as well, or ran the opposite direction,
but they seemed to just follow on with their dad,
So I think they seemed like probably happy children just
to be living off the land with their dad.

Speaker 9 (09:42):
Yes, yes, although he had he was did not have
custody of the children from the subsequent court case also,
so yes, yeah, there was legal concerns for that as well.

Speaker 8 (09:55):
Yes, definitely, which is said, but I mean they probably
would have ended up in care separated. So that's those
one good things. They've been together for the past four years,
and hopefully they can stay together now they out this and.

Speaker 3 (10:10):
And look, I think they probably The good thing is
that we will probably know nothing about what happens now
because it's just between the family courts and them, and
hopefully people will respect the children to privacy.

Speaker 8 (10:20):
Yes, yeah, I think they need privacy absolutely.

Speaker 3 (10:23):
Okay, we'll leave it there, Christy, But thanks so much that.
Oh I see too. The other news too. From a
rail point of view, someone's text, I hope Wellington and
one or two commuters are happy they're finally getting to
hon No, would you take the first rides on all
routes to and from Wellington just to see the scenery.
By the way. The other story that I didn't mind
talking about was the unbelievable cost of the Transalpine Railway.

(10:52):
So to go from christ Church to Graymouth, which should
be a standard train trip, right, you should be able
to do it for a family of four, it costs
two thousand dollars. It's cheap in a flight Sidney. So either
than New Zealand rails are completely incompetent, which I suggest,
I mean, why are they running something and it's so expensive.

(11:15):
It's unbelievable. I mean one hundred bucks there and back,
two hundred maybe, but five hundred A person could not
believe that. You might want to mention that also because
you know, I mean, we want rail back, but we
don't want rail just for tourists. That cost a fortune.

(11:36):
Couldn't believe it when I saw the prices. There's no
way to do it. Barry Marcus, welcome, good evening, Hi
Berry Years.

Speaker 10 (11:49):
I'm here, I say, are ringing on christ too. You
know when I go round about four o'clock this morning,
on the right hand side of the moon, it was blood.

Speaker 3 (12:02):
Read Do you take any photos?

Speaker 10 (12:05):
No? No, no, The moon was just a wee bit
more smaller.

Speaker 11 (12:10):
Oh yeah, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 10 (12:12):
And then when I got up around about half our sport.
It was half read, and when I got up at
five o'clos it was kind of a blackie read. And
when I got up at six, it was gone.

Speaker 3 (12:24):
Okay, that's the clips for you. I guess it gets
too class. The horizon goes Verry. Thanks for that. Twenty
three past eight. The number is eight hundred and eighty
twenty nine de text here this battery Laura North Island
to get a brand new fleet of electric trains. That's
the story. The adding train fleet will operate on the
wider upper and the one were two rail lines. It's

(12:44):
a great thing to spread a billion bucks on it.
So the try, I mean it's a good service. One
too wide, it uper but they have been problems with
the line. Was lay too narrow was something. The trains
arrive in twenty thirty, replacing thirty five year old diesel trains,
So I don't think they are going to be ones
that require overhead. Why is it just the actual batteries

(13:09):
they must charge when they're in at the depot. That's exciting.
It's kind of passed me by. And all they use
a nice looking trains. That's fantastic for the Parmest North
Trip as well. So that's brilliant. A brand new fleet
of electric trains, an eighteen train fleet, I mean eighteen

(13:30):
trains if they've met eighteen locomotives and wagons maybe sorry, carriages.
Maybe someone would do the work on that and tell
me more about that. That's exciting. So that's happening. Oh
wait eighty Elane, it's Marcus. Welcome, good evening.

Speaker 10 (13:44):
Hi, how are you good?

Speaker 3 (13:45):
Elaine?

Speaker 2 (13:48):
That's great.

Speaker 12 (13:49):
I'm just waiting to organize my prenut.

Speaker 3 (13:52):
But oh you're the winner?

Speaker 12 (13:55):
Yes I am.

Speaker 3 (13:56):
Okay, so congratulations. Did you watch the mess I did
right through? You'd be nervous at the end when it
looked like South Africa was going to score again.

Speaker 13 (14:05):
I know.

Speaker 10 (14:05):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (14:08):
So we what what city do you live in? Okay?
So what how would you like? What sort of peanut
butter would you like? I'm terrified to ask this question.
Do you want a variety or should we go to
Costco and get as much as we can?

Speaker 5 (14:25):
Oh?

Speaker 12 (14:25):
Variety, I think just all the different peanut butters.

Speaker 3 (14:31):
And is there is there a special brand that you like?

Speaker 12 (14:37):
I do like Crunchy by Pems. And I've got a
grand daughter who likes pecks and that's smooth.

Speaker 2 (14:44):
Okay.

Speaker 3 (14:44):
I think pigs do a crunchy though as well.

Speaker 12 (14:47):
Yes, they do do a currency, but she likes the
smooth one.

Speaker 3 (14:50):
Yeah, okay, So are we buying it for your Are
we buying it for you or your granddaughter? It's mainly
for you, isn't it? Okay? Okay? Well so okay, so yeah,
we'll see what we can do. Congratulations, it'll be on
its way this week. Thank you, my pleasure. Is there
a website on costco deg can we see what they've

(15:12):
got there? It's a Facebook page, isn't it. Well, she
likes she likes pems. Cuddn No, exactly, she wants pems
and she wants a variety. I think we just go
to costcore as much bang for your back for a
hundred and she can give it away. She is the winner,

(15:32):
and that's that's fine, isn't it. But she didn't want battles,
she didn't want built on So yeah, she'll take what
she gets from Costco. I think, but we'll get you
get a variety, Dan, that would be my advice to
you for that one. But bulk t bone Marcus, welcome,
good Marcus here listen.

Speaker 14 (15:49):
Years ago, I was living in christ which through my
father's government appointments, and to go and see my grandparents
and stay with them over the Christmas holidays on the
rail car only used to be about twenty odd dollars. Yes,
now that that and then you could get a trip

(16:11):
back for twenty odd dollars and I was a teenager
then yes, now what that, buddy, I'm down on railways.
Well that's just robbing people.

Speaker 3 (16:24):
But I guess they've gone for the overseas truist market
and try to as a scenic adventure. But it's kind
of crazy, is.

Speaker 14 (16:32):
That older people that would like to travel from Christis
to Graymouth? But I think there news on railways is
just a ripple for artists open Yeah, I might, I
do agree. So just said because I live up North

(16:55):
Canterbury on a farm now and the railways are going
to put on a trip to wrang you're a trotting cup.
I don't know the price, but that's there and back
for that day, you know. Then the Kakura trotting tuppets

(17:15):
have been.

Speaker 3 (17:16):
Yes, yes, I have been. That's good. It's a good
day here.

Speaker 14 (17:22):
And they're organizing the training to go up to Kai
Kura from christ I don't know the price. What's your
point that there would be a lot cheaper than of
the Yeah, and I and I always said to you
or a couple of months ago, they should run that

(17:46):
train down to Hope Protector because Hope Protector there's a
lot more because I'm a West Coaster, there's a lot
more to see in Hope Protector. And then now time
you know, from than in Graymouth, you know, because they've
got there.

Speaker 3 (18:04):
Take it. Take your half out again. Sorry, sorry, Tae.
It takes you half an hour to get there. Yeah,
but so might that hour might be taken up.

Speaker 14 (18:17):
Oh, I heard that this morning on John McCormick's.

Speaker 3 (18:22):
Talk back to is that Gary's brother.

Speaker 14 (18:26):
I'm not too sure, be too sure.

Speaker 15 (18:29):
It could be.

Speaker 14 (18:30):
It could be, but he is a three S B
christ Church.

Speaker 16 (18:35):
In the area.

Speaker 14 (18:36):
And there was a funny thing happening last night on
What is It Jackie and something.

Speaker 3 (18:44):
That I'm moving on t B. Sorry, but yeah, cheapest
just listening to Nina during that headlines. I don't know
much about women's prisons, although I did a little bit,
having watched Prisoner, which was a soap proper in our

(19:05):
school days. Which sometimes we would be in front of
and watch. However, it's interesting that she requires seclusion and protection.
I'm not entirely sure about that. I don't quite know
how the pecking order of female criminals goes, but it's
interesting that they would. Anyway, you might want to comment,

(19:25):
and I don't know what you'd say, but yes, I
found that surprising, those comments. But there we go. By
the way, looking at the cost of the Transalpine, it
appears to be it appears to be turning fifty bucks
one way or five hundred dollars return, which seems crazy
to me, absolutely crazy. But there are more luxury things

(19:49):
that cost a lot lot more. So, Yeah, she's a
very expensive trip, which is just turn in and fifty ca. Well,
it's about one hundred and forty miles or something. You know,
she wouldn't think would be much. But to get in touch,
you want to talk George, it's Marcus. Welcome, good evening.

Speaker 16 (20:05):
Trains. I'm kidding a bit. I'm a good old fashioned
I guess I'm getting a bit confused. For the nineteen
this has followed me. In the nineteen eighties or in
the nineties, they electrified the line. The main trunk line
from Wellington to Hamilton and Wellington to Parniston North, and
it's still electrified. It's got the wire across the top

(20:28):
where the trains had to pick up on the roof,
and they ran an electricity from that cable through the
rails to repel the trains. And so we had electric
trains running for quite a long time and if for
some reason they put diesels back on it. And then
at the end of labor parties run before the elections,

(20:50):
it was announced new diesels were being bought to go
on to that same track, and that was in the
middle of we're saving the world, we're electrifying the country.
We don't want to burn oil. So the Labor government
ordered a need from the announcements new diesel trains, these
electrics and that's fine. And now well Row and hold

(21:14):
Well we've got we've got battery powered trains running under
an electric wire that's not being used. It just doesn't
make sense to me that we can't go back to
just using that actual electrification that's already in place.

Speaker 3 (21:31):
I think I'm not sure if those I don't think
they electric electrified the line all the way to the
Widered Upper did they did it go through the tunnel.

Speaker 16 (21:40):
No, no, I'm not talking No, I'm not talking about the No,
but I am, George, Okay, I don't know what they've
done with I haven't seen.

Speaker 3 (21:52):
That would explain, that would explain the battery operated trains
for there, because that's not electrified. I think what happened
with the main trunk line electrification. I think the old
electric locomotives were really hard and the infrastructure was really
difficult to maintain. It also was complicated when you had
to change the type of locos at both ends. I

(22:14):
think that was at Hamilton and Palmerston North. I don't
know if it went all the way to Wellington. Someone
might correct me.

Speaker 16 (22:19):
On that electrification was Hamilton to Wellington.

Speaker 3 (22:23):
Well, I know, I don't know. I didn't go beyond
beyond Hamilton, but I don't know if it was.

Speaker 16 (22:28):
It didn't go north of Hamilton.

Speaker 3 (22:29):
Yeah, it says to me it's gone Hamilton to Palmerston North.
So it might have changed since.

Speaker 16 (22:35):
Yep, But you can't use that infrastructure your cope, George,
I don't know. It's going to be a worry because
is this a hybrid train? So the battery goes flat?
It's being charged by diesel electric motor. I don't think
just a straight ev.

Speaker 7 (22:53):
I don't think so.

Speaker 3 (22:55):
Yeah, I think it's just.

Speaker 16 (22:58):
Those things are those batteries. As we know, I've only
got a certain life fan to them. Those batteries in
those trains will be huge.

Speaker 3 (23:05):
But hang on, hang on, George, George, does it make
a lot more sense to a train that's charged with
batteries rather than one that's got to get I mean
it's it's a lot less faffing around than having overhead
pick up the whole way. The maintenance and the vulnerability
that system must be extraordinary.

Speaker 16 (23:22):
No, you look at Warrington railway system.

Speaker 3 (23:24):
It's always George, it's always breaking down every time it
blows the train stop.

Speaker 16 (23:29):
No it doesn't.

Speaker 3 (23:32):
Yeah, I know, but you're wrong because it's always it's
always in the in the garbage. George. Thank you, twenty
four to nine. Back soon, dB Marcus welcome. Just some
questions to you, because you're a trained guy. Did the
electrification end up going all the way from Hamilton to Wellington?

Speaker 17 (23:50):
No?

Speaker 18 (23:51):
Stopped stopped at North Is That's.

Speaker 3 (23:54):
Why George is such a no or a oh you yeah? Okay, yeah,
So just what I thought.

Speaker 18 (24:00):
It's twenty five thousand volts for the main trunks, right,
twelve hundred volts DC for Welton area.

Speaker 3 (24:10):
And was it always was it always a white elephant?
The electrification?

Speaker 18 (24:18):
I'm gonna say yes, they did try and shut the
electrification down because the maintenance of the locomotives they got
the wrong side of the curve and then there's such
a too hard they had to bring them back for
a while.

Speaker 3 (24:33):
What do you mean they get the wrong side of
the curve, Well.

Speaker 18 (24:36):
They weren't keeping the maintenance up and so small troubles got.

Speaker 3 (24:39):
Big track Classic Classic. It's like an airline, isn't it
that they fall out from the sky. Okay, yeah, i'munderstanding
what you're saying now, and.

Speaker 18 (24:46):
I'm going to suggest the new ones that they're getting,
although they're better electric, they will put the pantagraph up
when they're under the wire and so at the same
time they reach out.

Speaker 3 (24:56):
It doesn't look like it doesn't look like it on
the pictures.

Speaker 19 (24:59):
You know.

Speaker 18 (25:00):
I did have a look at quick look at them.

Speaker 3 (25:04):
Thanks using pantagraph because they haven't been used on the show,
but for and it sounds like a death death metal thing, but.

Speaker 18 (25:11):
That there would have been. I would have thought the
smart way you do it with the cable Karen Willington
against to the top. A little paragraph comes up and
it's charges while it's sort of at the station. Yes,
why would you sit underneath a charging system and then
expect some of the plug and plug it in? I
don't know so that that's just that's my expectation.

Speaker 3 (25:34):
Yes, before you get to what you want to talk about,
right yep. And I'm looking at them now and I
can't seen any pendagraph. I know you dB are someone
that enjoys rail. Did you do any exploration into how
those forniculas and lisbon were powered?

Speaker 18 (25:54):
Well, the word fornicula means that it's it's rope.

Speaker 3 (25:56):
Yes, but there's but there's it seems to be a
rope way above it.

Speaker 18 (26:01):
I will my glances, though I didn't do it.

Speaker 3 (26:04):
That's your deep dive. That's your deep dive for not
because I couldn't work at what had stripped. I looked
at all those pictures.

Speaker 18 (26:10):
Yeah, well they could have the model without a paragraph
showing yeah, you don't want to break the wolf, and
to have them the news me to go. Look, it's
already falling apart. It's only its boy. I see they're
going to have They're going to articulate over the bodies
by the look of that model. But I'll do some
research over the next couple of days and report back,

(26:32):
but we'll trans Alpine Railways is doing to it which
it managed to do with the Northern or the Northern Explorer,
which is raise the prices so that nobody's on it,
and they say nobody's traveling on it, will shut it down. Yes,

(26:52):
they hate almost the general public. When I used to
haunt the corridors of power, I wasn't used to get
into regular trouble for saying, have the price and double
the number of people on the chain, make the money
over the bar. But I was a heretic for saying
things like that, because when a cruise ship comes in,

(27:15):
the cruise people get a whole characters themselves at a
lower rate the new builders are paying.

Speaker 3 (27:23):
It's crazy.

Speaker 18 (27:25):
The various tourists companies buy bulk and get huge discounts,
and then railways take it to the you know, the
villainers who really own the things and try just out
of existence.

Speaker 4 (27:44):
It's nuts.

Speaker 13 (27:47):
Hey.

Speaker 3 (27:48):
Yes, the only cost for Kiwi rail is the labor.
Is it as the local driver and the people and
the conductor and the people in the Sex concession, isn't it.
There's not many people involved in the trade because they've
got all the staff there anyway, for the colt trades
going back and forward.

Speaker 18 (28:08):
Yes, So I'm not sure how they charge each other
like it used to be trained and seen the transfer
that kept a quite a large fee for running on
the rails. And they have all these interesting costs they
charge each other, which is just a money go around. Yes,

(28:28):
if a full train is not that much harder to
start than an almost empty train, short staff have to
work harder, and I get that. But my point always
was charge this, get more people on it, and make

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your money through the buffet car without charge the month.
And I'm a leg for not rubbish food. Some of
the food's quite good on that. But you're going to
you're going to imprison these people on a train for
excess of twelve hours.

Speaker 3 (29:04):
Yes, and for the trains point two they're libered. How
many how many carriages they got there's got four? Have
then a food carriage? Is that right? There's there's not
a lot, but they they've never built anymore. They could
actually build a lot more and make it much cheaper,
couldn't they. But they've chosen not. I mean, there's no
limit to how many carriages. They could have twenty six carriages,
couldn't they.

Speaker 18 (29:21):
Yeah, they can have up to two thousand halls tons,
the same as the cold trade.

Speaker 3 (29:26):
And how many how many wagons on a cold train?

Speaker 18 (29:30):
Forty?

Speaker 3 (29:30):
Okay, so yes, there's no So they've they've deliberately they've
deliberately restricted capacity to make it expensive, haven't they.

Speaker 18 (29:39):
Yeah. And then you know, at some stage we'll say,
well nobody's running on our train, Well we'll close down altogether.

Speaker 3 (29:45):
Yeah.

Speaker 18 (29:46):
And that's you know, because the Northern or the Northern
Express or whatever they read the brain and every day
it went from every day to week days to three
days a week to only running during the summer, and
same with the Coastal Pacific. Yes, just nuts. But yeah,

(30:09):
that's probably why I don't work for any more. But I
don't like myself way.

Speaker 3 (30:15):
He look at that for Nicola, if you would be
if you could do a deep dive into that, because
you've got more time than me, and you've got more
patient Because I couldn't we go how up work? Thank
you thirteen away from nine good even grant. This is
Marcus welcome.

Speaker 15 (30:27):
Well hi, can I give you three prices for Switzerland? Yep, okay,
this is for train, bus m BOD one month, half
price travel, one hundred and forty seven dollars all in

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one ticket for spontaneous three day travel two dollars two
hundred and ninety eight dollars per person in Swiss travel
past maximum freedom inflexibility three days for three hundred and
forty one dollars two persons at Switzerland.

Speaker 3 (31:10):
So what's your conclusion from that?

Speaker 15 (31:13):
Well, it's way way way cheaper than the trans help point. Also,
some of the trains start eight hundred meters above sea
level and go up to over two kilometers above sea level.
So what you're getting is absolutely spectacular.

Speaker 3 (31:32):
And this is not even a heritage railway. It's just
a standard commuter thing with a buffet car. That's the
bit I can't. They've tried to judge it up is
because as a great scenic thing, but it should just
be the regular route.

Speaker 15 (31:43):
Yes, that's right. Do they have second class?

Speaker 3 (31:46):
Yeah, they do have. I think there's one you get
a but there's one you get it. It's catered there's
buffet and drinks, and the other one is just you're
sitting and you have excess to a food cart. That's
it's probably a while since I've done it, but that
seemed to be what it was.

Speaker 15 (32:00):
Is that cheaper?

Speaker 3 (32:01):
Yes it is, but it's hard, you know, you know,
it's like it's hard. It's hard to get these websites
to see the price because youve got to into the
damn days you want to go on and it's a
it's a it's a faffel.

Speaker 15 (32:11):
Well that's what Switzerland does, and okay, you've got to
get there, but then people from obaseas have.

Speaker 6 (32:17):
To get here.

Speaker 15 (32:18):
So yes, it's the voice. Is this thing, isn't it?

Speaker 3 (32:22):
Yes? Yeah, I can't check in all the departure dates
to work out what it would cost, so it's I
mean I could, but it takes forever.

Speaker 18 (32:32):
Yep.

Speaker 15 (32:32):
So you can travel three days around Switzerland for three
hundred and ninety dollars basically any any all the transport
you want.

Speaker 3 (32:43):
Yeah, I'll try and see if I get a better
you go.

Speaker 15 (32:48):
The other thing is those new trains are hybrid, are they? Yes,
Well they have to do because if the data is
run flat in the middle of a tunnel.

Speaker 3 (33:00):
So you've made you've made that up.

Speaker 15 (33:02):
No, No, I heard it on the news.

Speaker 3 (33:05):
Did you what they say?

Speaker 15 (33:07):
They said they're buying hybrid claims from France.

Speaker 3 (33:13):
Okay, because they could ever speed Betrian couldn't they?

Speaker 15 (33:17):
Well, it's just risky, that diesel electric hybrid. I just
thought that Swiss stuff and.

Speaker 3 (33:27):
There appreciate that grunt. It does say in the press
release earlier they're going to be getting hybrid trains. So
I see the press release this weekend. Now here's a
text that I like a lot. That was an amazing
performance to the national anthem for the AB's game, best
and most appropriate ndition for as long as I can remember.
Either nailed it. For those that didn't see it, I

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don't know their full handle. I think it was the
Auckland pacifica secondary school choir. Unbelievable. Unbelievable of course too.
The South African sang this song more than we sang
our song, but they've got a bit of song to sing.
It was great, although the first half was petchy, wasn't it?
Was it?

Speaker 18 (34:07):
Well?

Speaker 3 (34:08):
It didn't really. I didn't think it really kicked on
as a game. Oh well, thought the ant from Anthem
was unbelievable, Marcus, Whomongus read orange Moon of the Shore
six pm to night beautiful sight took picts but streetlight
blurred them. There we go, Marcus. The time to travel
the Transalpine was back in the mid seventies. Ended our run.
A daily fat twin set railcar returned from christ Church

(34:30):
to Greymouth for a fair of four to fifty one
way in winter. The viewer spectach with whose icicles hanging
off the water tower provided for the former steam trains
had early been used on the line. Fat twin seat.
I think they are a fat dreary twinset. Have I
got that right? Evening, Marcus, I've got a metro car today.
A trip from Littleton to Diamond Harbor returned five dollars.

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That is for the community service car. Cheap, I thought, Jason,
my daughter and I Marcus did the trans Ipine Gold
class last year. It cost eight to fifty for both
of us. My husband and guy going next month. The
prices in Crest over one thou this should be a
fifty buck train trip. It's not far seas than turnd miles,

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about one hundred and fifty miles. It should be a
fifty buck train trip for people on the coast to
get across to christ Church for appointments. Just putting that
out there. If you want to talk mone of is
Marcus welcome eight hundred and eighty ten eighty and nine
to nine to text, do come through. If you want
to talk anything else you want to mention good, feel

(35:36):
free to come through. Oh someone has texted me too
from the coast. Marcus. Also in the news another search
for roy Arbin on Sunday around where his phone pinged
has found no further clues to his whereabouts. Dogs are

(35:56):
to be used later this month in the search. This
was this elderly man that went missing on the coast.
He had gone cycling, then he was going to go
climb the hill and never was heard from. It was
quite mysterious and kind of a story. It's kind of disappeared.
So that's a situation there. If you got more inform,

(36:20):
Oh no, we don't really want more information about that,
but that's happened. But keep your texts coming through.

Speaker 5 (36:28):
Now.

Speaker 3 (36:28):
Someone else has said, as far as this train trip goes,
which I thought was interesting, we did the trans Alpine
and twenty twenty three fantastic we did pay for an
upgrade to see it. Plus I'm glad we did. It
was so expensive in two thousand for a family is
a bit out of reach where we talk about going
north in this year. But we can fly to Fiji

(36:50):
RaRo Barley Gold Coast for that and stay for five days.
So there you go. She's pricey, but it's not for Kiwis.
That's the trouble. We've got a nationalized railway and it
seems it's per is to provide transport for people from overseas,

(37:10):
but not for the local market. That's the irony. I've
tried to look for prices, but it's a clumsy website.
But maybe it's me that's clumsy. I don't like the ones.
We've got to make updates to just see what. I've
got to put in a return date, but it won't
take my return date. I'm sure I'm not very good
at this, but doesn't matter. Selling price from two oh,

(37:30):
here we go scene neck two two nine, see Neck
two two nine, Scenic plus four nine nine. But there's
just one way that's just christ dutes to Greymouth. The
other two fifty another two thirty back, so it's four
sixty return well seen it plus as one thousand return
by looks of things to me. You need you want

(37:52):
to come back, otherwise you're stuck in Graymouth. None of
it's good. Greetings. Welcome Marcus to twelve eight pass nine.
I hope it's good you are. We are talking about
all these track kind of I feel I've been sort
of slightly out of the train circuit for a while.
But these these are the French owned trains or the
French owned rail company called Alstam. They're providing the trains

(38:13):
that are built in India which are going to run
to between Willington and Marsterton and Wellington and Palmerston North.
The latest article I've read doesn't say they're a hybrid.
It says they're just battery operated. O. Look, I haven't
got fat proof of that, but nowhere in the articles
that say they're hybrid. A one billion dollar fleet of
battery electric trains are on their way, eighteen five car

(38:37):
battery electric trains to increase service between Willington and the
wired at Upper and Palmerston North. They'll be here in
five years, so b EMU battery Electric multiple Unit. Last year,
Former Transport Minister Simeon Brown asked for counts to investigate

(38:58):
buying a diesel fleet to save money, but the battery
electric train still won the procurement process. So nowhere does
it mention there are a hybrid. I guess they'll be
back up batteries. So that's the situation there. The upgrade

(39:19):
will enable the doubling of peak services on both lines
and additional off peak services, with the Bishop expecting fifteen
minute travel savings for the commuters between Willington and Masterton
and increased speeds on the wider upper line. Labour spokesman
tongue Utekli said he was happy the upgrade was going ahead.

(39:41):
So that's the situation there if you want to talk
about that to also, because a couple of trained stories
of land now lap today, there's that. There's also the
Transalpine which is just phenomenally expensive, so you might want
to mention that. An email says we went on trans
our Pine in February was fab as we're doing the
West Coast Wilderness cycle trip. Was actually cheaper for the

(40:03):
two of us to fly from Graymouth to Todonga than
to catch the train back. Wow. So yes, that's the
thing about flying in this country. It's a lot cheaper
than anything because you're not paying for the maintenance of
the tracks. A with planes, that's the gool, that's the
beauty of flight. The planes are expensive. You don't have

(40:24):
to play what but the year is free? Get in
touch markets till twelve. Youant to mention that someone has
sent me a picture of the flyover the Galaxy that
was flying over the super Galaxy flying over Brown Space.
Thanks for those that footage, it's amazing. I don't know
if I put on the Facebook page, but I appreciate that.
Great shots and do you get touched you on talk
on air. I think the Transirepie would be profitable with

(40:46):
those fears. It's probably the only using train service it's
profitable to do you agree, Well, it's free. Hard to
work out what's profitable with trains because you're talking about
the maintenance and the building of the infrastructure. I think
probably nothing is profitable. Probably, nor should it be. Evening markets,
one hundred and eight days to Christmas Day? When do
you start Christmas present buying or is it time revised

(41:08):
the list for people to buy for this Christmas? Oh well,
there we go. If you want to talk about trains
or anything else, feel free to come through the numbers. Oh,
eight hundred eighty ten eighty and nine two nine two
to text, here'll twelve. I'll check up for breaking news
around the world. Anything to report, I'll bring that to you.
It's twelve past nine, as I say, oh, eight hundred

(41:29):
eighty ten eighty and nine two nine two to text.
I thought it was a mean spirit of the NRAL
not to move the Warriors game, so it wasn't clashing
with the All Blacks. Like I understand, the NRL is
probably a war, a mess of war with AFL and
lesser degree rugby, so I can understand their commercial decision.

(41:50):
I think the first half will be on its own,
then the second half will coincide with the start of
the All Blacks match. I don't know the solution to that.
Obviously with the NRAL, with the Warriors match, it's fitting
within quite a strict window with their finals week ken
or whatever that's called in Australia, so that's what will
be happening there and you can't move it around. I

(42:12):
thought there would be some leeway made. I don't think
it's not going to affect it. It's not going to
affect the match selling out at sell out Warriors, Penworth
Biddle or Effect. Probably the support they feel they've got
because some other people will be watching the Warriors High
Marcus pure battery makes sense as the technology has improved dramatically.
Most of the new Baltic and Mediterranean fairies are now

(42:35):
battery powered and plug in that docking beta.

Speaker 5 (42:38):
Yes.

Speaker 3 (42:38):
I've always thought if they're developing planes now that run
on batteries, they must have the technology fairly reliable. Just
saying get in touch. You allt to keep discussion going
thirteen past nine and the cost of the Trans Alpine
because there's all this talk about bringing railback to the
South Island. However, you know if that's what they're charging
for it, but it's going to be three times more
expensive than flying. When anyone ever catch a train, I

(43:01):
suspect they probably wouldn't, or maybe once to show the
Grand kit to what it was like. That's about it.
Do come to if you want to talk anything else
you want to mention also, and we have our winner
for the peanut butter packet. I can tell you that
it's Elaine. Elaine has won one hundred dollars worth of
peanut butter by halftime warriors be so far behind people

(43:29):
stop watching anyway. In good on your positivity in Marcus,
can we have a price to maintain one kilometer of
road versus one kilometer of track over one hundred years? Roady, Well,
I think the rail would cost a lot less to maintain,
be a tenth with it. The trouble with transport economics
you can actually finagle anything to agree with your argument,

(43:54):
so many variables. I look at that bluff road I
drive every day and the train track is rooted. It's
limited to twenty ks thirty k's, but three or four
trains go down every day in the road with hundreds
of trucks go every day, just continually gets to Moorish

(44:14):
Thing and it's continually maintained. It must cost them tens
of millions every year for that road. I can't work
out the economics makes no sense to me. Fourteen past nine, Hamish, Marcus, welcome,
good evening.

Speaker 18 (44:30):
Hey Mars there you're done good thanks Hamish.

Speaker 11 (44:33):
Yeah, I just wanted to bring up I know it's
a bit of a tangent on what you've been talking
about tonight.

Speaker 7 (44:40):
But.

Speaker 11 (44:42):
Just the fire service stuff that's going on. Sure at
the moment, what your thoughts on all us you.

Speaker 3 (44:53):
Are you talking? Sorry? Are you involved with this action? Hamish?

Speaker 11 (44:59):
I'm a volunteer yep, okay, and what.

Speaker 3 (45:02):
Can you explain the situation to us?

Speaker 11 (45:05):
So I'd like to say that, well, the stuff that
got put on the news the other night was just
an absolute I'm being careful on what I say, right, Well, that.

Speaker 3 (45:21):
Most people wouldn't watch their most people won't watch the
news anymore, so we don't explain to us what was
on the news, all right.

Speaker 11 (45:29):
So what he was on TV? And oh we just
have to adapt to what we do, right, it's an
absolute bollocks as far as I'm concerned, right, Uh station
that I'm at, we have a track that is well pasted.

(45:50):
It's used by that right, so most trucks get to
past or twenty five years and then they get out
a commission, right.

Speaker 3 (46:04):
Aish, Hamish to do will cause some good. Why don't
you explain to us what's going on with the fire
service and what the story was about.

Speaker 11 (46:13):
What I want to say is that it's unacceptable. Right,
I'm back in the Christas here and there strike.

Speaker 3 (46:21):
Right okay, So the far fighters are striking, the farfighters
are striking, is that what's happening? Yes, okay, here we
let's start with that. And what are their striking for.
I know that they're always talking about some of the
trucks were built wrong and got to be remodeled. They're
also always going about the trucks have to come up
from Hamilton to Walkland because they've got no uh, they've
got no let.

Speaker 11 (46:43):
The pay issues going on. Like I said, there's equipment
that is not usable, that is not such a service.

Speaker 2 (46:55):
Right.

Speaker 11 (46:57):
These are all problems makers, all of these sort of
things that you only get one side of the story, right,
And this is what I'm sort of saying from a
volunteer perspective that I've been in the brigade for fifteen
plus years, right.

Speaker 7 (47:16):
So.

Speaker 11 (47:18):
All the stuff that we get, like our truck is
probably thirty years expiry date.

Speaker 3 (47:26):
We're about where about to you, Hamish?

Speaker 11 (47:29):
I do I really want to say, though, don't I'm
in Wellington. Is your truck in Wellington?

Speaker 3 (47:36):
Okay? So are they volunteers in Wellington?

Speaker 11 (47:40):
There's lots of volunteers. Newland's jumps full Tower to Kaki Bay. Yeah,
we'll keep going if we need to, the problem is that,
like fans say, everything's okay, but it's not okay. And

(48:04):
this is where I want the USBA.

Speaker 3 (48:08):
Yeah, okay, I think it's getting there's too much assume
knowledge for us to talk about at the stage because
when you're going to acronyms and stuff like that. As
long as I know, and there's always been trouble with
the Fire Department of people talking about saying the goods
aren't good enough or there that the situation is undermanaged
or stuff like that. I mean it's always ongoing, isn't.
There's always the fire and union the media saying that

(48:32):
issues and it never seems to be resolved.

Speaker 11 (48:34):
I understand that.

Speaker 7 (48:36):
Yeah, And although it.

Speaker 3 (48:37):
Seems to be a situation whenever there is a fire,
they always seem to have the right equipment to put
that put it out, doesn't don't they It seems as
though they've always got the right stuff.

Speaker 11 (48:46):
No, they don't.

Speaker 3 (48:47):
This is a problem, like, okay, so what's happened?

Speaker 11 (48:51):
And there was a fire in Auckland right as an example.

Speaker 3 (48:54):
The sky City one. Oh okay, the nursery one ran.
They said, sorry, sorry, Hamish, what far are you talking about?
The one at the nursery one?

Speaker 11 (49:13):
Oh shit, sorry, you put me off theird now.

Speaker 3 (49:16):
Yeah, I know that's the thing. It's difficult because of
this we're talking about specifics. But I think there was
one last week at a nursery and they said that
a truck took two hours to come up from Hamilton.

Speaker 11 (49:26):
Yeah, and there's been a truck from Wellington go up
to Auckland, right, because they're under resource.

Speaker 3 (49:36):
And can you tell me how the Fire services fund?
How much of it's funded by the government, how much
is funded by the insurance levy?

Speaker 11 (49:42):
It's all by Levy's right, there's no fun.

Speaker 3 (49:46):
There's no funding by the government. No, okay, I didn't
know that. But anyway, thanks for raising the topic, Hamish,
and we'll look into that if someone wants to comm
and I do appreciate that. One of the things I
say that could be looking good for with the electrification
and those battery trains all the way to the White Rappa.
Your towns have your Featherston and your car to attend

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your gray town Marsden. Suddenly, if it's reliable, and I
presume it is, is spending a billion dollars, it's gonna be
good places to move to that we properly boom. There
is peer want to commute, very relaxing way to go
to work. Drop you in the middle of Wellington Palmerston North,
the same down you come through the coast. Tremendous. It's

(50:27):
gonna be a good thing for rail. But the other
thing we're talking about to the two train stories that
and also to the Transalpine which two thousand for a
family of four to go both ways, I'm sure I assume,
but cheapest creepers for train trip. I try and taw
it up with something spectacular. When you look at the
Roly carriage, it's just a it's pretty much standard as

(50:48):
a Sydney commuter service between like Newcastle and Newcastle and Sydney.
It's nothing flash and about the same distance. That cost
you five dollars, which for Kimi rail cost five hundred.
By the way that goes right too, it's twenty five dollars.
The Fire Service are paid. I don't fully understand the

(51:13):
Fire Service because there's always trouble. They always to have
an effective union, they always seem to have the ear
of the media. They're always going on about these trucks
they haven't got. So I can't quite work out where
the pinch point is for the fire service. If they
funded ninety five percent of the insurance we want our houses,
then where's the log jam with the money they get.

(51:35):
Can't quite work that one out. Ah, I've got a
long text about the Lisbon cable car, but I haven't
quite worked out where the cablers look like. There's aerial
cables if you could look at that, dB Marcus Good evening.

(52:00):
I live in Papakura and there's three businesses that are
all together and two of them have changed their shop
signed frontages, but one of them is refusing changes signage.
Are they all obligated to changes signage? Well, I don't know, Marcus.
Did you know that almost all the train tracks up
North Island's east coast have been ripped up and removed,
especially around Wide. Oh, I guess that's a Fuegne conclusion
and over over far Hour in that province. I think

(52:24):
that what happened to the rail there is that the
Toledo worms got into one of the bridges over the
swamp there and kind of destroyed it, and then the
cyclones came along. So yeah, I guess that's probably gone there.
It goes to Wide. Oh, there's some also some rail
cycle rail tracks along there too. Twenty five past nine.
Who have to take My name is Marcus Welcome eight

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hundred and eighty to ten eighty. Get in touch if
you've got something to add tonight, looking forward to what
you want to add. Oh oh, Marcus, maybe I've missed something.
But the new eighteen trains youw trains are electric and
battery designed for these in conditions, and new trains switched
to battery on trek without overhead our using technology proven

(53:08):
in both and countries like Japan and Germany. I think
they might be from an earlier press release. I don't
know if that's what they've actually eventually gone with, but
someone might know more about this. It's a trouble with
the old. I don't know if that's an old all right,
that's from today. Thank you. I'm just trying to read

(53:32):
that press release now, but thanks for that. I'll go
back to it. Bruce. It's Marcus Welcome. Good evening, Good evening, Marcus. Hi, Bruce.

Speaker 20 (53:44):
I'm just calling up about the trains. Ye, it would
be great to see if they could do the same
thing for the outer urban areas of Auckland, particularly the
northwest up to Qbu, who are by and even Helen's.

Speaker 3 (54:03):
Yeah, you've got a very good point there because of
the if the technology has all gone to battery, then
why have they doubled down on overhead yet, I guess
because those trains will be running the Yeah. I don't
know the answer to that.

Speaker 20 (54:21):
Yeah, I mean the overhead.

Speaker 19 (54:23):
They do need it to an extent because it's cheaper.

Speaker 20 (54:25):
To operate, you know, over areas that are being used
a lot. But in the outer areas make out to
say Helensville, you know, you could put on some of
those bm U trains and operate all the way out there,
and that at the moment they say they can't do
it because they say they can't run diesels through the
Citagorary tunnel.

Speaker 3 (54:44):
That's right, So they would fit. They would fit perfect
with that scenario, wouldn't they.

Speaker 20 (54:51):
Yeah, exactly, And then just extend the open network out there.
You know, the government and upland Transporter trying to push
having a busway all the way up to Hue Pipe,
but it's not going to be built for at least
ten years. So the railway line there, it's been recently
upgraded over the last few years, so they should just
get on with it.

Speaker 3 (55:11):
And they had to go bringing trains and from Helensville,
didn't they but didn't work. They didn't seem that committed
to it either, did they exactly?

Speaker 17 (55:19):
They did.

Speaker 20 (55:20):
I think it was like one or two trains a day,
intervenient times that got people into the city too late
for work. It's basically set up to fail. And with
old clapped our trains.

Speaker 3 (55:33):
How far is it electrified out to electrified to run?
How far rup does it go? Why Tarkety station? Is
that right?

Speaker 20 (55:41):
It goes to Swanson, So just passed run Away up
to Swanson. And then after that there's the way Tackery.

Speaker 3 (55:47):
Tunnel, So between Swanson and Helensville. You could just run
those back and forward anyway to fit into the people
that want to get a train from Swanson.

Speaker 20 (55:58):
Exactly. And then you know the State Hiway's sixteen at
the moment, it's just one lane in each direction. It's
probably some of the worst congestion and orphans. There's thousands
and thousands of houses gone in there since they last
operated a train out there. People are screaming out for
a train service using the train line that they drive
past every day. Quite a cheap and easy way for

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THEMS to service that area.

Speaker 3 (56:24):
It seems to make perfect scenes, doesn't it. Has anyone
suggested to them? Have they talked about it?

Speaker 20 (56:33):
I think it has been suggested, but AC has been
very bullheaded about it, and I think the government has
just sort of gone along with it because they're trying
to obviously save money where they can and not fund
these sort of things, and they just see it as
some transport issue.

Speaker 3 (56:49):
God live it there, Bruce Butt, thanks very much to that.
Keep your calls coming through if you want to talk
rail anything else. And the Fire Service also, Marcus, I'm
just wondering a twenty year old fire engine a voultary service,
how many k's would be on that vehicle. Also in
hooks By, I find the fire staff for the striking
tagging all over the vehicles with felt pins pens to
get their point across as free, disrespectful. If I've done

(57:11):
that to my company vehicle, there would be repercussions instantly. Yes, yeah,
I mean, I think the Fire Service have a unique
place in New Zealand because they are revered and respected.
But I also think probably people don't understand what the
job entails, and probably most Peole understand how it's funded.

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I don't know what the barriers are for them to
get better trucks. I don't know why. I don't even
know who dictates that. What I do know is that
in recent times the job of a fire fighter has
changed quite dramatically. I think in that once upon a

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time you just waited around until there were fires. But
these days I think you go to almost all motor
vehicle extdents. I don't know why there's I think it's
because I need people to lift people. I don't fully

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know the change, but I know that the job has
become a lot more different, and they're a lot busier,
and it's probably quite a stressful and confronting job. Not
that it probably wasn't always confronting, but now you're dealing
with road extents. I think once upon a time you
deal with fires occasionally that involve people, But these days
you're dealing with extents all the time, which probably, yeah,

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it would be a very hard job to do. Marcus.
The Lisbon cable car would have been the same as
the wedding in cable car fornicular. The two cars are
joined by a cable that runs over a sheath at
the top. No, it's not, they're powered by above. It's
not a true fornicular apparently, so it's quite a complicated setup.
I think they're joined by a rope but powered by
overhead cables, which makes no sense to me at all.

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So you might have something to say about that, So
do get in touch with our talking trains to the
commuter trains to Palmerston and to Wellington and to the
Wide and Rapper and also to the cost of the
trans Alpine. Five hundred dollars per person might be there
and back, but it's not much. So yes, that's the

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frustrating thing, is that everyone's crying out for better passenger services,
but this is just a boot tick thing for people
from overseas. It's a terrible day to have said this before.
It's a long day because you're going all the way
to Graymouth and got now to bounce around Graymouth. Then
you're gonna go all the way back and going back,

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so it's a bit tiresome. So I don't quite know
what goes on with that, Marcus. We're coming to Auckland
sooner and where we're told we need high vis on
all the Auckland trains. Is that right? Or is my
work pulling my leg he's just been up there and
said he did know you need hivers. Marcus, could you
ask northsier rate payers if it's true that they pay
for rail in their rates or is that another Auckland

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urban myth? Thank you, Mac. Sure they probably do. Twenty
six away from ten diets, Marcus. Welcome, good evening.

Speaker 7 (01:00:23):
Oh hi, Marcus.

Speaker 21 (01:00:25):
Look, I'm just ringing up about the fire guys, the
fire department guys. I actually feel really sorry for them
because I think New Zealand we've got a big habit
of letting some of our maintenance stuff just go, like,
you know, not be attended to. And I think that's
been seen with hospitals, the schools, you know, the defense department,

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a whole lot of things. I think the fire department
what they have to deal with. You're right, things have changed.

Speaker 3 (01:00:56):
Do you know why that?

Speaker 5 (01:00:56):
I don't die.

Speaker 3 (01:00:58):
Do you know why they changed?

Speaker 18 (01:01:00):
Yep?

Speaker 21 (01:01:02):
When you look at electric vehicles, computers, all the best
is that you know these.

Speaker 3 (01:01:08):
No, I don't. I don't think. I don't think that's
what it was. There was a change in what they
do in their job that maybe they'll call out to exence.
I can't quite work out the reasoning for that. But
you're not You're not a firefighter, are you.

Speaker 17 (01:01:20):
No.

Speaker 21 (01:01:20):
But I've worked at the airport, and I've done firefighting
training with the fire department, and you know, I've been involved,
and I've got a couple of friends for firefighters, and
you know, the stress that they're under, you know, they
need to know that they've got good equipment, especially when
you look at the size of the buildings that are

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being built these days. They're getting bigger, higher, more sophisticated.
So the demands on these guys in a highly stressful situation.
And our police and our fire and our nursing, our
medical they are the people we we really support and

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and trust. They're putting their lives on the line to
help us. Yes, and I think it's really poor form
when the government, when the organizations don't give them the
back up and get the equipment.

Speaker 3 (01:02:18):
But the surprising thing is it's not the government that's
paying for the equipment. It's from the insurance levee, isn't it.

Speaker 21 (01:02:26):
Well, the government should be because it's part of our
care and welfare, and you know, with the rising costs
and everything, sure some sharp some parts should be coming
from insurance. But the government should also be making sure
that these guys have got whatever they need because they're
doing it putting their lives on the line for us.

Speaker 3 (01:02:48):
Okay, thanks Di, I've got email here from Allen. Your
earlier caller has its facts well muddled up. Probably a
paid firefighter masquerading as a volunteer. The government does provide
some funding to fiends under the name of public good.
It's not the enough for what they get. The news
about trucks is actually all about hey for paid firefighters.

(01:03:08):
You'll note that this issue raised into crsdo during annual
pay negotiations. Yes, they always have a regid relation with
the media. I've noticed there are some seventeen hundred paid
firefighters in New Zealand. There are some ten thousand volunteer
fire fighters who do not get paid. Here is the
earning of the seventeen hundred paid firefighters a couple of
years ago, as pretut of the parliamentary sectivity. These earnings

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by worker who have two days shifts, two night shift
and then four days off they call it two play
dates too sleepovers and then in Easter weekend of that pejorative.
Because of this shift pattern, they can work untold callbacks.
They create these by taking turns. Oh yes, seventy. That's
a huge wrought. So I think this person ever invested
interest anyway. Nineteen to ten. Hellow Garth, it's Marcus welcome. Sorry, Garth,

(01:04:00):
I've just got my my button's taking a long time
to buffer. Yeah, Garth, it's Marcus welcome. Good evening, can.

Speaker 18 (01:04:07):
You hear me?

Speaker 3 (01:04:07):
Yes and clear? Thank you for that.

Speaker 19 (01:04:10):
That's good. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:04:13):
The trans l Pie, yes, yeah, I caught it a
couple of years ago. Yes, so just we're Auckland based
New Zealand family. But we planned a west coast trip
and we flew to christ Church specifically to take the
train across to ray mel Uh and then we hired

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a car and went down the west coast and popped
out flew home from Queenstown. But the train was magnificent.
It was really really good. And one of the really
neat things is it's not just they clipped our old
train wagon. They've they've done them up really nice, really
comfortable seats, made, really nice food and stuff. So it

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was what you were what do you say pretty? It
was indulgent and I I paid for it to go
one direction of my family and one day, I might
go in the other direction once, So it's I'm sympathetic
to the newspaper article to a certain degree. It's definitely pricey.

Speaker 3 (01:05:21):
How much how much did you pay for your family Garth?

Speaker 2 (01:05:27):
I can't remember now. It probably would have been over
five hundred bucks. Seems seems about right. When I read
the prices said air for it's probably about what I paid.

Speaker 3 (01:05:36):
Five hundred bucks each.

Speaker 2 (01:05:39):
No, and there's four of us, two adults and two kids.

Speaker 3 (01:05:42):
Oh, I think what it's saying. It's two thousand dollars
now for four people.

Speaker 2 (01:05:44):
Now, Oh yeah, I'm not denying it's pricey. And I
only went I only went in one direction. Yeah, So yeah,
I'm sympathetic to the news article that it's too pricey
for moongst people.

Speaker 3 (01:06:00):
And be nicely. You could have got been nicely because
you've got the train the whole way down. That would
be ideal, wouldn't it.

Speaker 16 (01:06:08):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (01:06:09):
The that was I just can't can't stomach the link
that takes to get from Awkan to Owington on the train.
So I considered flying to blitterfying to Blenham and getting
that train to christ Church. But another maybe.

Speaker 3 (01:06:27):
Why couldn't you handle a day on the train with
your family, Garth.

Speaker 2 (01:06:32):
I think I did. I did Organs Darlington many years ago,
and on the train, and when it's about four hours
faster by car, it makes a bit of a difference.

Speaker 3 (01:06:41):
But not hear from your Garth stixing away from ten.
Marc's the long distance trains we still have should cost
the same as they couilent bus fare. Exactly. Wow, Marcus.
I'm a career firefighter. We get donvous about funding from
insurance levees and the government puts in ten percent. We
just want more accountability from the top about where our

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funding is going. We want better vehicles, resources and more
staff being recruited so we don't have to keep doing
over time to keep trucks on the run. We're ten
more medical calls now and that makes us a lot
of our calls out. Would you get paid more than
ambulance drivers, Well, now they compare, Marcus. Many building owners
are now not paying this fire services levy their insurance

(01:07:26):
because they have found a loophole in the law where
the group of all the buildings together only pay the levee,
not one per building, Marcus. The main reason FENS workload
has increased to the Ministry of a memory of understanding
with Saint John's. A fire truck will get tipped out
to any cardect related call. It's about getting effective CPR
and progress asap. Oh, that's right. That's why I knew
there was a kids. It's because they can do the compression.

(01:07:50):
Firefighters handle chess compressions, giving AMBO staff freedom, minister medication,
and manage airwaves. Yeah, that's what that's the bit of
the that's the pivotal bit of information I thought I needed.
Thank you, Chris yeh talk about CPR, Marcus firefighters corresponding
evidences so we'll get are offered a ten medical callouts
until the eminence arrives. The ambulances have dumped more and

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more onto fire services. Marks you think they should make
a pass your train stop the train station at Cumuy
train station because I think it's a really good idea. Well, well,
these new battery operator ones will be brilliant. Because there
was trouble with White Tarketing Tunnel because the diesels couldn't
go through there because the fumes don't know how they
manage with the old steam trains. I don't fully know
why that changed, but if you get the battery ones

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to go from Swanson out to Helensville and back be brilliant.
A lot of cruise ships availing the trans outpoint of
the guests only go to Arthur's Pass. Then they tranship
to coaches and do a rhino a winery tour back
to christ Church. Fire Men help out with CPR for
eminence now and with lifting people for eminence now and

(01:08:56):
their usual stuff they do. Yeah, cadek arrest callouts. That
seems to be the thing here we clarified that twelve
from ten Pete Marcus.

Speaker 18 (01:09:06):
Well them here and there.

Speaker 22 (01:09:08):
Marcus Hi Peak are there?

Speaker 7 (01:09:11):
Yes?

Speaker 3 (01:09:12):
Peak?

Speaker 22 (01:09:12):
Yeah, just looking at these fears to go down to
the the Transalpine one, there's level and there. Now there's
like two three different sort of fares, like one for
forty one hundred and forty seven fifty that goes along
with turn one Day or your Life and that's christ
Shots to gray Mouth. That's that one. There's another one

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here Coastal Pacific follows the South Island rugged Kaikura coastline.
Thore depends on which one you want. It's one over
two hundred and thirty five ten. I think they'll one
under that. Look looks like it's three tuned. I'm sure
put down return on there, but it's three tuned for
one hundred and forty seven dollars.

Speaker 3 (01:09:51):
Every one way you've gotta put you've got to click
the return button.

Speaker 22 (01:09:56):
Yeah, but even then that's four and a half hours trip,
like one way four and a half hours.

Speaker 20 (01:10:02):
So you know, I know what people worry about.

Speaker 22 (01:10:05):
It's only one day your life. If you really want
to come back, just take it back and pay. Well,
maybe what they should don't know what they do with
the train and it gets down there, Maybe they.

Speaker 3 (01:10:14):
Just peep the point. The point is for people living
in Greymouth want to go to christ Church for appointment,
they'd like to get the train and it's costing a
hic of a lot. Public transport should be transport for
the public. That's what people are getting up in arms about.
Is it so damn expensive when they might just want
to go across there for a hospital appointment and come
back the next day. Yeah, because you're elderly and you

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can't drive right and you want to get the train
because it's a lot more comfortable than the buses, then
it shouldn't be out of reach because it's two thousand
dollars return for a family of four. That's a lot
of dough.

Speaker 2 (01:10:54):
Oh yeah, and that.

Speaker 22 (01:10:55):
Way definitely is that I'm just saying, do you just
like meself by yourself and you just go there for
like one way for one hundred and forty seven dollars
that's four and a half hour trip, you know, and
if you want to get to read two and I
suppose maybe what they should do is something They've got
two two different trips, and they got that coastal Pacific,
that rugged coastline that maybe they somehow combine them so

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you can go that way and come back another way.
I know, they don't know if that could be done
that way. You probably find people will go that way
and we'll come back the other way. Like I retourn trip.
Maybe they've got to shuffle your cards around a bit.
It's not coming back the same way. And that way
it's a win win. They get a retourn trip and
they make money out of it.

Speaker 5 (01:11:37):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:11:37):
Okay, have you done it, Pete.

Speaker 22 (01:11:41):
No, that's on my buck. I must do it actually,
because I haven't done it, you know, I don't know.
I've been around Europe and that's sort of some younger
days and then no, I haven't actually done that, must
do it. There is a beautiful trip to do that.

Speaker 3 (01:11:51):
I reckon the nice to hear Pete, thanks so much.
A lot of people are saying it's a scenic train
not a transport train. Well, the fact that scenic is
because it goes through amazing land, So I don't know
what the difference is, but certainly there should be a

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public train that's affordable. Whoa, I just can't believe it.
A train that peop want to catch, but it's five
hundred dollars return. So we had public transport and now
they've changed it to be for tourists to be seen
at transport. It seems weird to me. You could run

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rail cars so conveniently over there, and now rail seems
to be coming back with that investment, which is fantastic.
We should celebrate that. The investment between Wellington and the
Wided Upper and Wellington Parmest North quite straightforward. Now because
you've got battery trains, you don't need all the pi lava,

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so let's do that on the Transalpine as well, or
something like that. Haven't reasonably priced. We should have local
discounts for local attractions. We play enough and rates in Texas.
Surely the kiwis could be allowed a half off ticket
to most things with proof of address, So get in touch,

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you wor to mention that also to an a fear
bit of talk about the fire services seventeen. That's just
talk about their pay negotiations when they come around. But
I guess they are a beloved profession. And I guess too.
If you beloved profession you're trying to negotiate, then it's
not bad to have the public on your support on
your side. Yep, pretty interesting article here. Bill Gates holds

(01:13:49):
a rare McDonald's Gold card, which grants some complimentary McDonald
mills anywhere in the world. Any small number of people
also know to possess this exclusive pass for Gates, who
in public status follows of Cheezburgers as the ultimate indulgence.
By the way, an inver Cargol today Popeyes opened, So
I went there to have a lock at about half

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past nine. Didn't have anything. There wasn't anything that appealed
for breakfast. Whole table of Mormons. I thought was interesting.
They seem to be Mormons. They had yeah, well the
Popeye shoot, oh, they must have got the free shirts
for being there first in there, so that was interested.
They must enjoy food from home, so the surprime thing
about Popeye has never been to one before. Very small inside,

(01:14:33):
I mean like six tables. It must clearly have been
designed mainly for the drive through market, but I think
it might be the South Island's first. There's a band
outside playing sort of Dixie songs and a lot of
traffic management. But yes, right across from the KFC and
invert cargol but seemed to be well attended. And yeah,

(01:14:56):
not much more to say about that, but yeah, I
thought there'd be I was open to. I thought I
might go and see what's on the breakfast menu, but
there was nothing that was a burg or a chicken
didn't really appeal. Or that touch, touch tappy happy thing though,
wasn't it. You don't talk to her in these days,
You go like a robot, tap on a screen. Gosh,
I'm sick of that. But yes, there we go. So
that's opened. Built it very quickly, and I'm sure it'll

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do unbelievably well because the KFC it's crossed the road from,
does look unloved but re popular. On a Friday, I
think there must be something about milking cows on a Friday.
The thing hang about enough of this that's gone to
town and get some KFC. There's always the utes in there.
Greetings here to tow ove up your nights going well.
Feel free to get involved if you want to. The

(01:15:39):
number is eight hundred and eighty ten eighty heat till
midnight tonight, nine to nine. To detect Calvin, it's Marcus. Welcome.

Speaker 6 (01:15:47):
Hey Marke there, you're going good.

Speaker 3 (01:15:49):
Thanks Calvin.

Speaker 13 (01:15:50):
Hey, I just caught the end of what you're talking
about about the passenger versus tourist trains. I used to
catch that the Northern Explorer down from Aalkland to Wellington
when I had time. It's like an expensive, an expensive
kind of public transport route, I always thought, and imber

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getting on there.

Speaker 18 (01:16:14):
One morning.

Speaker 13 (01:16:15):
It's like an early train there one day, seven seven
in the morning, and I ran on, thinking you just
got on the train with your ticket, But I got
turned away by someone who's a bit grumpy, saying no, no, no, no,
You've got to check in. You've got to check in first,
And so I checked in. I went and checked in,
and then I came back and I thought, okay, and
then and then I had my bag and I also

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had an urn that I brought off trade me. It
was in a box like a camber one, and the
lady on the on the door said, oh no, you can't.
You can't take that on. It's not it's not proper luggage.
And I was like, Oh, what am I going to
do with this? And I've just bought it or trade me,

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which is, Oh, no, you can't.

Speaker 18 (01:16:58):
You need to.

Speaker 13 (01:16:59):
It's it's a it's for travel, it's a passenger, it's
a it's a tourist train. You can't you can't take them.
You can't take.

Speaker 7 (01:17:09):
And I was kind of shocked and I.

Speaker 13 (01:17:10):
Don't know who not to do, but it ended up
ended up kind of talking my way on with it.
But it is funny how it's kind of aimed at
tourists or or something, but not just getting between the points.

Speaker 3 (01:17:24):
It's weird.

Speaker 13 (01:17:26):
It's really crazy.

Speaker 3 (01:17:27):
Yeah, because it was a successful try. I mean not
so long ago. There was a daytime and a nighttime
train trip and people caught it, and then they thought,
let's make it for tourists. It didn't work, so they've
cut it down to like every second day or just
in a weekend or seasonal. So it's bizarre. Whereas you
think if people want to go on at the best

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party is at just a standard pessenger train with a
place where it that seld drinks and pies. That's what
people want.

Speaker 13 (01:17:55):
And the one that always drive me crazy it doesn't
stop in time at a nui, which is the classic spot.

Speaker 3 (01:18:04):
Pie stops at National Park. Doesn't it seem like it's
almost seemed like there was a there was a someoner
brought the rights to National Parks. They stopped there, which
probably not a bad thing, probably a bit of food.

Speaker 13 (01:18:13):
There's a group there's a group called the Future Israel
which is advocating for Golden Triangle Trains, which is a
passenger train between to Long and Hamilton and Auckland. Yes,
and I think it's just it's hellishly complicated. I think
to do anything involving Kiwi rail. And there's the rail

(01:18:36):
enthusiast groups who have you have run up the tracks?

Speaker 6 (01:18:38):
Who do those?

Speaker 13 (01:18:40):
You know, the more enthusiasts rail trips at ten day
at ten day trip around the country, and I think
they're quite expensive.

Speaker 3 (01:18:48):
And Calvin this is said with love and kindness, but
not only are they quite expensive, but also your ten
days with a group of rail enthusiasts, and that's exactly
there's not that's not that's not without its challenges, and
there are quite a you know, so they're quite a
they're quite a they're quite an enthusiastic and focused group.

(01:19:12):
But they they exhausted after a while. Yeah, I have.

Speaker 13 (01:19:16):
If you've been there, you how was it?

Speaker 3 (01:19:19):
It's exhausting because they want to talk about trains and
stuff like that, and you know, and I mean a
railway you know, a bit of a train spot is
a euphemism for someone that tries to out compete you
with information. So if you're a group of train spot
as they say, well that's on they're getting an argument
about anything, Well that's oh no, it's not. It's actually
a four to seven. So yeah, it's exhausting.

Speaker 13 (01:19:40):
So yeah, okay, yeah, Well I think I just dream
of rail holidays and them. I just love I'd love
to take to have a rail pass in my summer
holidays and just get on and get off, and even
if it was every second day, it's such a such
a sweet way to get around the country. And so

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many there's so many spots that where the train goes.
And then I thought about the rail trails, which seemed
like a lovely thing. But they're they're actually not rail
tracks anymore. They're a bit sad in some ways.

Speaker 11 (01:20:15):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:20:16):
Yeah, And the good thing. The good thing about the
rail trail is that I think particularly, I mean, if
all things go well, my dream with the rail trail
between Middle March and well, it can't go to Cromwe
because they flooded the lake. I reckon fifty years I'll
be putting the rail back down.

Speaker 13 (01:20:31):
Well, I guess the lands there isn't it.

Speaker 3 (01:20:33):
Yeah, And it's still there. It's not hard. The tunnels
are there is put it back down with battery trains.
People flying to queens and to need and put them
on the train. They're in Queenstown or Warnick or overnight,
they go all the way.

Speaker 13 (01:20:45):
Well, I kind of wonder how how much we it
would be impossible to build our train network in twenty
twenty five dollars. Yes, we wouldn't know. We wouldn't We
wouldn't take impossible, We couldn't do it.

Speaker 3 (01:20:59):
It'd be interesting for a historical economists to work out
how much Vogel borrowed and how much money it was
in today's terms, because I mean it revolutionized the country.
I mean it made the country possible because this was
before this is before cars and anything, and you know,
it was huge and it was probably the biggest.

Speaker 13 (01:21:18):
You go go on going, sorry, you go.

Speaker 3 (01:21:21):
I mean, we're the biggest thing, big project New Zealand's
ever had. And it made this country because it was
rail everywhere.

Speaker 13 (01:21:26):
But yeah, there to be, it's there to be used
and the stations there. The land's probably been pilfered away
over the time around them. Imagine that's that's an issue.

Speaker 7 (01:21:37):
But I.

Speaker 13 (01:21:39):
Think of the Eastern the Eastern line from from Auckland
from Britam mart Or where it would have gone from
the central station of the day the stops all the
way to I think it's like panur Or or Tahoe.
I saw the tender, the tender documents for that, and
it was it was something like some very small amount

(01:22:02):
of money. I forget what it was. I'll send you,
I'll send you the image, but say it was fifty
thousand or something and some amount. But it had to
be finished. All the stations built within six months, yeah,
of starting, and the stations were quite simple. But they
don't need to be too complicate. Now it takes six
months to change the font on the on the website.

(01:22:24):
Probably in them, I do, I do.

Speaker 3 (01:22:29):
I do think Calvin though, that you have got to
whenever people are talking about trains and how useful they are,
you've also got to realize that for places like Auckland
and Wellington and christ Church to Wellington that most people
would prefer to fly because it's so much quicker and
so much cheaper. So yeah, so, apart from short distances
like Graymouth to christ Church or why did it happen

(01:22:51):
to christ to Wellington, you're not competing with flights because
that's it seems to me. There's two three hour trips
for it really works, and that's I think what they do.
And France it's illegal you can't fly on those short
trips because it's all rail.

Speaker 13 (01:23:04):
So where were you in Auckland to welcome to Hamilton's interesting?
I guess some of the stops along the way north
it would be amazing, But I.

Speaker 3 (01:23:11):
Guess the North's really hard to get the fund because
it's a long way round. You've got to go right.
It's a rare, meandering track and I don't think you'd
ever get anyone that ever got that that the train
from fun at Hawk And they said, basically, you'd you'd
go to sleep, when you'd wake up, and you still
would you know, it'd be twelve hour. It was a
long long time. It's so windy.

Speaker 13 (01:23:32):
Yeah, right, but oh well, live in Hope's it's a
nice nice to step back to the future sometimes. And
I know the the Hamilton trains to who is really
it's really popular. Again, the timetable doesn't work that well
for day trips, but.

Speaker 3 (01:23:50):
It seems to be going from strength to strength despite
so many people but been such a such a concerted
effort opposed to it, and it seems to have Yeah,
I'm gonna move on, Calvin, nice to talk. Thank you, Gwen,
it's Marcus. Welcome, good evening.

Speaker 4 (01:24:03):
Hello. I haven't rung you be sure, but I always
listen to you right till twelve o'clock just about every night.
It's good program.

Speaker 3 (01:24:10):
Thanks Guen.

Speaker 4 (01:24:11):
About the trains, I'm thinking that if it was public transport,
all the pensioners would be bringing out the yellow cards
and we'd have a free ride over to Grandmath.

Speaker 21 (01:24:22):
I'd be on there like a shot, and why not,
why not?

Speaker 4 (01:24:27):
It would be full. Then I don't know how it is.
I'm beus it's not always full, and it would be
jolly good.

Speaker 3 (01:24:34):
It would be good for the coast people spending the pension,
spending their money over there. It'd be fantastic, absolutely yeah.

Speaker 4 (01:24:41):
And we'd all buy something to eat on the train.

Speaker 3 (01:24:47):
Us thought, yeah, nice thought too, Gwenn, Thanks for that, Marcus.
When my kids were young, used to seeing their mother
with four kids to the coast via rail to spend
a couple of weeks on a farm. It used to
cost me twelve dollars for the whole family for a
one way trip. We didn't have mon much money, but
could afford a rail trip. Unfortunately, today I couldn't afford

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to go myself, let alone send a family kindness regards.

Speaker 2 (01:25:12):
Dave.

Speaker 3 (01:25:13):
The Northern Explorer does stop at Tomo Denui. The last
time I went down, we got off and we walked
to the chateau from I thought it was a short walk.
It was eighteen kilometers. That was a surprise. It was
a good walk. Could we summon a fearless leader that
would bring back herringbone parking to s Street inver Cargo,

(01:25:34):
That would solve all the world's problems. Maybe the listers
can help. I am going to buy a TV set,
has anyone brought from trade depot? And is the salesman
correct and saying if the TV screen is not big enough,
you won't see all the actors? And does Netflix have TV?
As soon as I can't find the license fees? Are

(01:25:54):
they for real? I don't know about home depot. Are
buying a TV but you don't need a license anymore.
And I think the smaller TV just still see everyone?
Thank you sing out? But oh get through if you
want to talk. That's what the lines are free. I
forget what I'm doing. People do get in touch Marcus

(01:26:16):
till twelve o'clock tonight. Um, so yes, be in touch
if you want to. Oh eight hundred eighty ten eighty
old Aaron Patterson won't be out for a while. She's
got thirty three years in jail. Probably the less surviving

(01:26:41):
news ever. Also to in Australia, Sydney there was a
fatal shark attack. I don't know if you've read that story,
but interesting enough. I think they said it was only
the second fatal shark attack in Sydney. Did you go
see that? Because you think of all those fear they

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have there of sharks and the nets and everything. I
was surprised there hadn't been more when you see so
many surfers the whole time. So yes, must have been
a big shark like talker is lower half in one,

(01:27:24):
I think.

Speaker 7 (01:27:26):
So.

Speaker 3 (01:27:26):
Yeah, I was surprised to see that there hadn't been more.
I think a lot of the shark attacks in Australia
off the west coast Margaret River south of Perth. I
don't know how many fatal texts have been in Australia, oh,

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two hundred and fifty deaths, but a lot of those
could have been in the very early days. I'm not
saying there's more sharks then, but they've got a full list.
There's a good Wikipedia page which I'm a friend at
me reading now, because yes, there haven't been many in
Sydney that they've got them listed by state, but quite

(01:28:16):
a few in yeah, Queensland. It's a slightly more complicated
website than I thought it would be, but yeah, think
there must have been.

Speaker 6 (01:28:26):
More on that.

Speaker 3 (01:28:27):
There's a lot in Sydney according to this article, but
a lot a lot from the early days, and I
don't know why they'd be supposed people spent more time
in the water, did they? But yeah, I think I
might have read a bad report from that. Oh no,
most of them have been in Byron bay On. There's
been three in the sixties and fifties in Sydney Harbor.

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I know there's been a lot of a text there.
So yeah, I wonder where I'm with that information seems
wrong anyway. At twenty three past ten o'clock market still twelve.
Get in touch if you want to be a part
of the show. Eight hundred and eighty to eighty. Someone
says before you now Popeye's Louisiana Checken will be opening
it outlet in Warnaka. Yeah, well, it did seem surprised

(01:29:13):
how small it was. It didn't sort of have a
welcoming vibe. But as I say, it's probably for the
drive through. People seem to like eating in the cars,
don't they suppose a controlled environment?

Speaker 7 (01:29:25):
They like that.

Speaker 3 (01:29:27):
But do get in touching on a talk on air
if you something else you want to talk about. Tonight
Old Trump went to the US Open. Did he get booed?
It seems as though we did, although I think people
were told not to report that long shit. Well, it
took a long time. The game was delayed to get
him in there. You might want to mention that as well. Aha.

(01:29:49):
Another story that's read its head today ban homework for
primary school children. That seems to be what people want
and the quote is homework in primary school has an
effect of around zero. I think probably from speaking to teachers.
I think probably it's the parents that ask for homework
because I think it's something the children are going to enjoy.

(01:30:10):
It's going to make them do better overall. I think
Nigel Letter he said it's no use. Yeah, I think
probably homework at primary schools is probably a silly idea.
But anyway, it's parents that want it. But ye're there
thirty hours a week, you think you should learn everything there.
Although I'll tell you what, I've actually had quite fun
times with the children doing sort of myths and spelling

(01:30:31):
and stuff like that. If it doesn't become a I'm
not trying to make out a tremendous parent, but with
maths and stuff like that, I'll always race the kids
to try and beat them at doing it and then
we will. Yeah, it always becomes quite exciting thing. Actually,
I'm saying a it pious, aren't I but it's only yeah,

(01:30:51):
it's not kind of when if there's anything you've got
to do, it becomes a bit a bit. But you know,
if there's I think now, when you've got like tablets
and you've got to do maths races with them, it's
quite good fun. I love that sort of stuff. Do
you get in touched you on to talk twenty eight ten?
You got to be a part of it eight hundred
and eighty ten eight nine two nine two text anything

(01:31:11):
goes here till twelve o'clock. I don't also like to
talk about shark attacks. Oh what's going to go in
the parenthesis? And we're going to wait for the brackets. Malcolm,
it's Marcus.

Speaker 18 (01:31:23):
Welcome, Kay, Marcus. We do speak from time to time.

Speaker 6 (01:31:28):
Yes, I just tuned in and I've got a little
news clipe that there's a new Popeyes part of opening
and Wanaker.

Speaker 3 (01:31:38):
Yes, no there's not, but someone said probably that'll be
the next place. I think they would have been humorous.

Speaker 6 (01:31:42):
All right, Okay, well all I'm going to say, and
this is not an anti Trump, fine, but it is
the way Americans do business. For many years, ten years
I used to go through jailer and I used to
go to Chinese couple who had a Popeyes.

Speaker 3 (01:32:02):
Oh yes, yes, where was it.

Speaker 6 (01:32:06):
Deniver?

Speaker 3 (01:32:07):
Wasn't it Marton? Was it Marton or denniverg.

Speaker 4 (01:32:12):
No, it was?

Speaker 6 (01:32:14):
It was up that way anyway?

Speaker 3 (01:32:15):
Copy that, yep.

Speaker 6 (01:32:16):
But anyway, a week before they opened their first units
in New Zealand, they sent to cease and desist notice,
close down immediately.

Speaker 3 (01:32:30):
Don't do the many favor, never ever.

Speaker 18 (01:32:34):
Walking to.

Speaker 6 (01:32:37):
US owned pop Eyes unit.

Speaker 7 (01:32:39):
Ever.

Speaker 6 (01:32:41):
I just don't like the way they do business, you know.
I mean they had it for thirty years apparently, and
they had to close down.

Speaker 3 (01:32:53):
I don't think they did close down. I'll look into
the full details of story because I think we might
have spoken to them on the show. I don't. I
think they've changed and doing quite well. But I'll fetch
check that one for you, Malcolm. But thanks for that
the troll, doesn't he thinks breakfast? That was my trouble
with them. Where was at Popeye's Fish and Chips? Was
it Martin Ordanavererger. Let's try to see if they went bang,
because I don't think they did. I found the story

(01:33:16):
Arion z good on them. It was Martin. I thought
I was right. I don't want to be rural rural
trademark fight bragger. But yeah, it wasn't Marton. They've changed
their name. It's still going strong. I think. I don't

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think the owners that was the original name for it.
I think they bought it with that name on it.
It's now called don't even Sell Fried Chicken. I think
it's now called.

Speaker 17 (01:33:48):
On.

Speaker 3 (01:33:48):
The guys were called mister Popeye round town. Could someone
tell me it's still going all right? And what it's
called now? The very long article, so you might have
some information about that. Also, I don't know what the
new name is even chet GPT won't tell me.

Speaker 13 (01:34:06):
Ye.

Speaker 3 (01:34:08):
I just found it amazing that they thought that they're
going to start the conquest of the South Island from
the South. Good on them for that. Get in touch
if you want to welcome Marcus. We've just traveled from
Adelaide to Melbourne by train, twelve hour trip, three hot
meals first class, one hundred and forty dollars. Train was full.

(01:34:31):
Yeah that's saying something. Twelve hours, three hot meals first
class on hundred and forty bucks. Popeyes wasn't fielding and
is still going well. North Street Takeaways I think it's
called well, that's what appears to be in mart On.

(01:34:55):
Oh sorry, this one says fielding. You're right, so it's
not don a Verka, not Fielding, not Martin, it's fielding.
So you're completely right.

Speaker 13 (01:35:01):
Thank you for that.

Speaker 3 (01:35:03):
Appreciate that. And I'll tell you what it's called, brilliant
North Street takeaways.

Speaker 5 (01:35:10):
There we go.

Speaker 3 (01:35:10):
We've loaned it all twenty seven away from eleven if
you're on to Marcus till twelve. Yeah about the trains,
but for the Southern, for the Palmerston North to Wellington,
that'll become a big train now, that'll happen a lot
more often. And the one between Masterton, there's probably no

(01:35:31):
reason they couldn't go further with that one. Now they've
got the right rolling stock. I don't know if that's
going to happen, but it could be the start of
a rejuvenation, let's hope.

Speaker 17 (01:35:40):
So.

Speaker 3 (01:35:41):
By the way, this day in twenty twenty two was
the day we found out Queen Elizabeth had died a
day after she met Liz trust I think that was
the way it worked. And this day in nineteen eighty six,
Oprah Winfrey Show aired for the first time. That's almost
forty years ago, and this day, in nineteen sixty six,
Star Trek made its TV debut, And this day, in

(01:36:05):
nineteen sixty Alfred Hitchcock's Psycho is released in cinemas in
the United States. What a terrifying film that was. That's
when the woman gets stabbed in the shower. I think
that's funny on film Psycho, because they remade it with
exactly the same script and camera angles. Remember that.

Speaker 6 (01:36:25):
I saw it.

Speaker 3 (01:36:25):
I saw the remake, but it always kind of terrified me.
Terrified me. They remade it, so you might have remembered
going to see that. Obviously didn't go see it when
it came out because before my time it's called Hitchcock's
best movie. Yeah, and I've got to that stage I

(01:36:46):
wouldn't watch a horror movie now, Life's too short terrifies
me with the famous shower scene, and I'm pretty sure
it had that screechy violin soundtrack. I don't think I've
just imagined that. I think that's a real memory. Someone
might know. But yes, they remade it too, which is

(01:37:08):
really weird. I don't quite know why they did that,
but I think I might have seen that one also. Now,
if you want to talk on air. That's what we're
about tonight, twenty three away from eleven here till midnight,
So do get in touch. In nineteen ninety eight, Gus
van Zandt made a nearly Shot for Shot remake in Colour,

(01:37:30):
starring Vince Vaughn, Julian Moore and Anna Hissh. He said
the film was a huge kind of experiment, experimental project
that although it did not do well commercially, orcredibly he
made it again with more changes. This are a TV
show called Bates Motel, which was a prequel. So if
you want to talk about Psycho Yeah, feel free, you

(01:37:53):
might remember going to see that. I think that was
the scariest, the most effective horror movie until those really
scary ones in the seventies came along. That would be
my That would be opinion, Oh, Marcus. Due to the
popularity of the Popeye cart in the nineteen thirty Spirits,
conception of the USA increased by thirty percent. Thank you,

(01:38:17):
greetings and welcome nineteen to eleven. Congratulations to a lane.
She won one hundred bucks of peanut butter for correcting
the margin right and the all black sweep o.

Speaker 2 (01:38:28):
Huh.

Speaker 3 (01:38:30):
Marcus recently traveled to Dallas via Fiji on Fiji airwaves
twelve hundred dollars for two people each way.

Speaker 18 (01:38:35):
Wow.

Speaker 3 (01:38:37):
The first link from Auckland to Auckland was great. Second
length Fiji to Auckland was terrible. Delay after delay and
everyone's cramped into the seat which were unsold. Staff wanted
back three rows empty. Don't blame staff but the airlines.

Speaker 15 (01:38:50):
Ha.

Speaker 3 (01:38:51):
Oh, Denise, it's Marcus.

Speaker 18 (01:38:53):
Welcome, Hello, Marcush.

Speaker 23 (01:38:57):
On Saturday night there was a film Monty the seven o'clock.
It's called The Witches. I'm staring Angelica Houston and I
really don't think it was here to all for children.
It was absolutely horrible.

Speaker 15 (01:39:15):
Are you.

Speaker 17 (01:39:17):
Yeah?

Speaker 23 (01:39:19):
It was a horror Are you there?

Speaker 3 (01:39:23):
Yep?

Speaker 23 (01:39:25):
Is that Marcus?

Speaker 3 (01:39:26):
Yep? Dark fantasy comedy horror. It's a puppet chow.

Speaker 13 (01:39:31):
Yeah.

Speaker 23 (01:39:31):
It was supposed to be for kids, but it was horrible.
When Angelica Houston ripped her face off and she's had
this horrible witch face, it was really really awful.

Speaker 3 (01:39:43):
Denise, Denise, were you watching it with children?

Speaker 15 (01:39:46):
No?

Speaker 23 (01:39:46):
I wasn't, but I was thinking about my grandson in Harkland,
who's only six. I was thinking, oh, he's a bit
he's a bit sensitive. I think I hope he doesn't
watch it.

Speaker 3 (01:39:57):
It's based on a Roll Darl story. So he is
a children's writer.

Speaker 23 (01:40:02):
Yeah, actually, Rau d you know the books here writes.
They're quite good to read, but I think once you
put them into a film, you've got to be careful.
That can be too scary.

Speaker 3 (01:40:18):
Did you last the whole movie?

Speaker 13 (01:40:21):
No?

Speaker 23 (01:40:21):
I didn't. I know that which turned him into a
mouse and he was speaking as a mouse.

Speaker 3 (01:40:29):
Okay, I'll check it out. Thanks to Nise to Ease
Denise seventeen to eleven, Max till twelve. Do you come
through if you want to be a part of it?
Eight hundred and eighty ten eighty nineteen nine to detext
Nigel Marcus, Welcome.

Speaker 17 (01:40:46):
The evening, Marcus. Have you tried the Pop Eyed Chicken
up north? Have you?

Speaker 15 (01:40:51):
No?

Speaker 17 (01:40:53):
You haven't tried it, Mber Cagle yet. No, you're waiting
for the Russia.

Speaker 3 (01:40:58):
I've got quite strong opinion about chicken.

Speaker 17 (01:41:00):
Right, you don't like it?

Speaker 3 (01:41:02):
You don't know, No, I'm just preparing the thing about chicken,
it doesn't really taste of anything. No matter how you cook,
it always kind of tastes the same. So it seems
as though all these takeaway people are trying to make
the coatings different and more interesting, but actually think chicken
itself is all pretty same tasting.

Speaker 17 (01:41:21):
Oh, I've had different varieties of chicken. When I was
over in Victoria or Australia, I got the beautiful tasting chicken.
It was heavenly chicken meat. Because that was a chicken
that was it done?

Speaker 6 (01:41:34):
I don't know.

Speaker 17 (01:41:35):
I didn't see them cook it.

Speaker 3 (01:41:36):
No, but was it smoked or was it roasted? Or
was it a roto chicken? Was the bachelor's handbag?

Speaker 1 (01:41:41):
What was it?

Speaker 17 (01:41:43):
It was just like a plain chicken like it had
been done in the oven and roasted. Yeah, rotiscerid or roasted?

Speaker 3 (01:41:54):
Yeah, I think probably The Popeye stuff is very deep fried,
I would imagine.

Speaker 17 (01:42:00):
And has it got spices and herbs like I'm not
like Kentucky fried.

Speaker 3 (01:42:05):
Well, I think it, Yeah, that does look as Yeah,
I really don't know. I've just really looked at pictures.
But it's got a lot of stuff on the outside
of it, like a lot of crunch.

Speaker 17 (01:42:15):
And do you find KFC tasteless too, do you?

Speaker 3 (01:42:18):
No, I don't think it's tasty. I'm saying all they're
all fighting for there's all this Korean chicken and stuff,
and they're all trying to do things, but actually, ultimately
it all tastes free. Samy.

Speaker 13 (01:42:28):
Oh no, you go to the you have that?

Speaker 17 (01:42:32):
How you like it?

Speaker 6 (01:42:33):
Don't you?

Speaker 7 (01:42:34):
Oh?

Speaker 3 (01:42:34):
Yeah, I'm not looking for an augment. I'm just saying,
with all these fried style ones, you're asking what it
tastes like. I imagine they all taste very similar.

Speaker 14 (01:42:42):
Do you like?

Speaker 17 (01:42:43):
Do you like or hate Kentucky Fried?

Speaker 7 (01:42:46):
Oh?

Speaker 3 (01:42:47):
I think it's fine. I think it's from Tyler. It's
nicer cold. Oh yep, yep, yep, it's nice to cold
the next day if you find something even eating, I
don't any probably once a year, once every two years,
once every five years.

Speaker 17 (01:43:00):
Okay, do you have McDonald's more often? No?

Speaker 18 (01:43:03):
Not really.

Speaker 3 (01:43:03):
You ask a lot of questions of me, which I
always find unnerving. Okay, do you do you find what
I've got to say interesting? Nige'll you find my stuff interesting?

Speaker 2 (01:43:13):
Yeah?

Speaker 17 (01:43:13):
Well, you're about my age. I'm just seeing if I'm
on the right diet to live as long as you Marcus.

Speaker 3 (01:43:25):
What's your diet money consist of?

Speaker 17 (01:43:28):
Oh, tonight, I'm having for my last meal?

Speaker 13 (01:43:31):
Of the night.

Speaker 17 (01:43:31):
I'm having potato chips and Mother Earth cashew nuts and
a couple of Kiwi fruit.

Speaker 7 (01:43:38):
Right?

Speaker 17 (01:43:42):
Is that a right to go to bed on? Oh?

Speaker 3 (01:43:43):
You wouldn't need after eight pm? I don't think.

Speaker 17 (01:43:47):
I often do.

Speaker 3 (01:43:49):
That'd be my advice, no food for hours before you
go to sleep. I'm on a sleep specialist fourteen to eleven.
Here'll twelve. You want to be a part of it?
What do you like, Marcus? What do you do you
prefer this?

Speaker 11 (01:44:02):
Do you prefer that?

Speaker 3 (01:44:04):
Marcus? The blood used in the psycho shower it was
actually chocolate sauce. It was the most realistic looking to
real blood. The guys seemed older than me. Mark's at
home with influenza A. I never previously got the flud jab,
but I definitely now after experiencing this. It spread very
quickly around work. Did you know you can buy rapid
tests from pharmacies for COVID AB and RSV? So good

(01:44:29):
pacific A student choir singing there, that was amazing that
the regular Tonight best of ever heard. Look, I think
everyone agrees with that. I think they were the Auckland
Secondary School Pacific A choir. They nailed them both The
first one was done altogether. The second one had a
male and female vocalist. I thought it was the first
time for a long long time. While that, I thought
the anthems were compelling. Hi, Marcus, the Exodus was one

(01:44:53):
of the best horrors before they banned it. It was
pretty much up there with Poldergeist in the I don't
think it was banned, was it. Benning homework was the
other discussion that you might want to mention. I think
bend's are strong word. But bearing in mind, it's not
the teachers want to give the homework. It's the parents
that want it. They demand it. Romans along from midnight tonight. Yep.

(01:45:15):
By the way, in the local body elections, voting commences tomorrow,
so it's important you have your say. Voting commences to
I'm not quite sure if you will get your voting forms.
I didn't realize that, but that's important to Voting commences
tomorrow to male vote, and I can tell you. The Warriors'

(01:45:38):
first postseason matches against the Panthers at go Media, which
is Mount Smart at six oh five on Saturday. If
they win, they'll face either the Storm or the Bulldogs
in the next round. They are in three on the
trot to win the whole shebang. I think only one
team from where we are in the hit parade has
ever gone all the way.

Speaker 6 (01:45:59):
So.

Speaker 3 (01:46:01):
It's unlikely, but you never know. We get on a tear,
I think they call it, and hopefully that happens. Although
Penworth have rested all their players for two weeks. It
might backfire, but it might be genius. It's hard to tell.
At the stage. I will wait. You ever know? Oh eight,

(01:46:24):
good eything, Mike, This is Marcus.

Speaker 7 (01:46:25):
Welcome, Hi there, mister Lush. Yeah. A woman before talking
about the Witches movie and which she was worried about
her grandson. I remember when I was early eighties. I
was about seven years old and my grandfather took me
to that movie Best Boat or the Boat about a German.

Speaker 3 (01:46:48):
Oh you, but they said it was an excellent movie.

Speaker 7 (01:46:52):
Oh talk about edge of your seat, terra Hera the
whole way through, you know, being these guys in a
U boat. It was from the German point of view.
But ah, just the yeah, traumatizer at that age watching that.
And but not only that, he took me as a
kid to the Star Trek, the Wrath of Khn and

(01:47:15):
there was some some insect daily and they threw in
a helmet and put it on the guy and it buried,
buried into his neck, and oh that was terrifying. And
then Nana. I remember Nana, when I was that age,
you used to let me stay up when I'd stay
at their place to watch the Sunday Horrors and how
you had a lasting? How old the effect? Seven?

Speaker 13 (01:47:37):
You know?

Speaker 7 (01:47:38):
Seven?

Speaker 3 (01:47:39):
Really your grandmother did a seven year old sit through that?
That's weird.

Speaker 7 (01:47:43):
It's on TV though, I mean it was on TV.

Speaker 3 (01:47:46):
Yeah, but syll parental responsibility.

Speaker 4 (01:47:49):
Yeah.

Speaker 7 (01:47:50):
But probably the scariest though, was that movie. It was
on TV the day after about a year clear strike.
Oh that was just Yeah. Anyway, I guess if you
I reckon, I reckon, you build resilience.

Speaker 3 (01:48:05):
Mike, I reckon with I on the Horrors. They were
scary because they're in black and white, weren't they? That
that made them seem scarier?

Speaker 7 (01:48:11):
Oh, I don't remember some of them. All of them
were in color. But yeah, I just I think you
build some sort of mental resilience after being currified as
a kid. Anyway, Anyway, I just sort of mention.

Speaker 3 (01:48:25):
Did you did you see did you see psycho.

Speaker 7 (01:48:28):
No, I no, I don't remember seeing that one.

Speaker 3 (01:48:32):
Are you keen to see it?

Speaker 24 (01:48:34):
Not really?

Speaker 7 (01:48:34):
But also I remember as a teenager used to read
like I read a lot of Stephen King books nowhere. Yeah,
always pretty scary.

Speaker 3 (01:48:43):
What a great writer he turned out to be a wow.

Speaker 7 (01:48:46):
Yeah, and Stephen King. I mean, I'm sorry, what's his
name at Wilbur.

Speaker 13 (01:48:53):
What was it?

Speaker 7 (01:48:53):
Wilbur Smith? Wilbur Smith.

Speaker 3 (01:48:55):
Yeah, he was quite He wasn't such a great a
good writer?

Speaker 4 (01:48:59):
Was he?

Speaker 3 (01:48:59):
Don't know about him?

Speaker 7 (01:49:02):
Yeah, I read a lot of his.

Speaker 3 (01:49:05):
To get back into reading Stephen King. I'm going to
move on, but thank you for that. Five to eleven,
eight hundred and eighty ten, Ady Marcus till twelve, looking
forward to your and put tonight anything else you want
to mention get in touch when we've been talking about
rail a lot tonight, which is which is fine, but
only because the government's spent a fortune on trains for

(01:49:26):
the Lower North Island and there will be commuter trains
to go from the wided Upper which is Masterton, gray Town, Carterton,
Fielding to Wellington and also the ones between Wellington up
the up the coast Park Acadeki right, the way through
to Palmerston North and they've kind of got by there.

(01:49:47):
Kind of there's been a demand for those trains, but
Rail hasn't really committed to them. But now it's good
because they'll go from strength to strength, so suddenly those
places become better to commute from without needing a car,
particularly the widered Upper. We caught the train this year,
in fact that this year we caught the we're around
the holiday we caught we caught the train from where

(01:50:08):
were we we caught the train from I can't remember
the name of the place we stayed, but it was
incredibly complicated or tucky went from there to Fielding but
it was a bus, then a train, then a bus,
then a bus, then a train, then an uber. Because
Christmas they working on the rail so it wasn't good

(01:50:30):
at all. Took forever should have been an hour, talk
about five. We ended up an upper heart net to
get an uber across the old Leam Attackers, which was fine.
But yes she was, I tell you what. She was
a complicated but then got the train straight back and
it was fantastic. From Marten to one agent, it was brilliant.

(01:50:50):
I think we all get the train, not quite sure
it was Vena. I can't even remember what happened to
us then anyway, so that's that. But no, actually I
think we might have got a bus because the bus
had placed trains back from there. So let's say it
all gets a bit more lible, a bit more predictable,
getting ready for the last out. If you want to
be a part of it, here till twelve, eight hundred

(01:51:11):
and eighty ten, and you feel free to get involved.
Nine nine to detext. When I was seven years ago,
when I was seven years old, myself and my two
sisters watched Don't Go to Sleep in a caravan nightmares
for weeks, sorren was it a movie? Don't Go to Sleep?
I look that one up during the news we are
talking the psychope. It's got the interesting tools about.

Speaker 7 (01:51:30):
Oh.

Speaker 3 (01:51:30):
By the way, I saw that that Jaws was on
at the movies the other day, so good on them
for bringing that up with the fiftieth anniversary. Was tempted
to go, but already watched it on Sky this year.
But yeah, there we go, special Rah Don't Go to Sleep.
Never heard of that. Hello, Hello, Hello, Hello, greetings, and

(01:51:50):
welcome Marcus till twelve, I hope you are good. Anything
goes for the final hour. I've got not much happening, though,
I'd go to the Shield match on Saturday, which I'll
tell you what. The Shield match. Boy, oh boy. I
wasn't sure what to wear because the weather forecast it
looked like the match down at five past four. It

(01:52:11):
looked at that as at five o'clock a front was
going to come in and it was going, I mean
because it said seven degrees feels like minus three. So
I wore a Swan dry and then I wore a
PVC raincoat because I thought it's going to be wet.
Vanessa went with the full ensemble and the kids. Of

(01:52:32):
course kids never wear anything much because I never get cold.
But boy, and I'll tell you what. It was only
just when the players were on the field to sign
autographs afterwards that absolutely there was lightning. There was thunder,
so the deluge fortunately was an hour late because I
was watching the rain arrive on the bends of rain

(01:52:54):
arrive on the cell that Jeep's cribs are going to
cop it. But anyway, so we worked out very very well.
The weather wasn't good, but it was about to be dreadful,
but they played at the right time to get out
of the way for the All Blacks, so that was good.
But yes, it wasn't Southland's day. They were beaten comprehensively
by Canterbury. Shortest shield rain ever six days. Of course,

(01:53:17):
one of those days is probably celebrating and then practicing,
so you're tough for them, but that will be forever legendary.
Fairly good crowd I think probably seven thousand and six.
It wasn't quite as many as Stag Day, but it
was pretty good. That's two very good turnouts for in
Vicago for Southland. So the match against Otaga, which is
their annual fixture, which has got the big crowds, and

(01:53:39):
that won the Shield match. So yeah, people despite the
weather being in clement, people turn out in big numbers.
So the Shield there is still magic with the Shield.
It can still galvanize communities and it wasn't a bad
match to watch. Canterbury's defense was extremely good, although we

(01:54:00):
played most of it in their half. We just couldn't
get through and get the book. But anyway, that's what
was so yes, and then of course the Popeye is
upening in Chicago today. I don't know why. It's the
first of the South thinne to go up in Vicago.
But good on them for that. So I seem to
be busy. Hope they do well. So there we go.

(01:54:21):
We are talking about rail today because there's two rail newsers.
One is the cost of the Transalpine family of four
two thousand dollars. It's just a train trip. It's just
a train trip. The other thing is to is eight
hundred million dollars I think has been spent on rail
locomotives and carriages for the lower Wellington area. I wasn't

(01:54:43):
expecting this. I know that the one of apple Line
had been terrible for a long time, and I know
that the the daily commuter trained from Palmerston North is
always booked out and they complained about But both those
are going to be replaced by flesh new bettery operated trains.
So you might have some comment to make about that,
and that would be good if you do. Oh eight
hundred and eighty ten eighty and nine to nine two

(01:55:06):
to tick, So get in touch. You got anything to
add tonight? Anything goes for the final alto too. About
the movie Psycho that was released this day. Oh, I'll
tell you the exact year. Actually hold your horses, people.
A lot happened this day, this day in nineteen sixty

(01:55:29):
So sixty five years ago. Still a good watch. I
want to mengine And the Queen died three years ago
today at the age of ninety six. What was the
big story about that? Oh, the funeral, wasn't it? And
who cueued up for it? Because David Beckham waited in
the queue but Phillips Schofield jumped the queue. Seemed to

(01:55:50):
be the backstory of that. Oh and by the way,
Aaron Patterson to jail for thirty five years. They say
she's going to be in seclusion. I don't quite know
why she should be in seclusion. I don't quite know
what it's about. Seems required in the courtroom. You probably

(01:56:11):
would be, wouldn't you. There'd be my take on that.
But welcome. You've got to talk on air Marcus till twelve,
as I say, oh, eight hundred eighty tenny and nine
two nine two to text. Anything else you want to
mention too, be good to hear from you. Get in
touch of your talk on here tonight, As I say, oh,

(01:56:33):
eight hundred eighty ten eighty and nine to nine two
to text, Looking forward to what you've got to say. Now,
I think that's pretty much everything we've got for you people. Yeah,
they're good looking trains too. They're French but made in India,
an eighteen train fleet, so we have to wait four

(01:56:57):
years for them, battery electric, multiple units. So if you
want to talk about that, I can handle that. Anything
else you want to talk about eight hundred eighty ten eighty,
Jamie Marcus, welcome an Afthea.

Speaker 19 (01:57:18):
But Jamie, you're talking about the prices of train trip.
And I was in twenty nineteen last summer I home,
my mom lives five minutes from the Avondale or train station,
and the women are on holiday. The whole timech is
telling me, you got to go and see the new
train station, get on these new trains or so we

(01:57:39):
finally do it, and I couldn't believe the.

Speaker 6 (01:57:42):
Parts of it.

Speaker 19 (01:57:42):
It was me and my two kids and my mom
to go from Avondale to Auckland. I was almost I
reckon it would have been thirty or forty dollars. I'm
order being cheapess for me to drive the car and
pay for parking. I don't know if that's changed, but
yeah it was. And then you're talking about the trains
out Pine. I caught a train the V Line from

(01:58:06):
Mount Olburn to Bendigo because I wanted to buy a
pie and back and it's kept it seven dollars for
the day.

Speaker 3 (01:58:12):
Makes sense, doesn't it.

Speaker 19 (01:58:15):
Yeah, it's just crazy, Like yeah, that's what I was like,
I said, I was pretty dumbfounded about the price of
an orphan So like, are they trying to get people
on the train? But when you charge that, you just
take your car, wouldn't you.

Speaker 3 (01:58:27):
So one thing Australia's got right as public trainsport, isn't
it Sydney Melbourne fantastic.

Speaker 22 (01:58:33):
Yeah.

Speaker 19 (01:58:33):
Brisbane's sort of lagging behind, but I think they're slowly
trying to work it out. We've only just got the
bus services out to Yarrabuba where we used to live.

Speaker 3 (01:58:43):
What's Brisbane got has it got? Has it got commuter rail?

Speaker 19 (01:58:47):
Ye's got commuter rail. There's like one down to epsod
one over the north side. But then they run like
a busway thing that goes down the.

Speaker 3 (01:59:00):
Busway is a bit weird.

Speaker 19 (01:59:01):
Yeah, yeah, but they do the train gown and the
gold Coasters good and then they're just doing the trams
now that that on the trams and the Gold Coaster excellent?

Speaker 22 (01:59:14):
Great?

Speaker 3 (01:59:15):
Is the Sydney tray? Is the Brisbane train overground or underground?

Speaker 19 (01:59:21):
I think in town underground and then the rest of
it are above ground?

Speaker 3 (01:59:26):
And what are the how do the trams work? What's
their kit? They're electric? Are they?

Speaker 18 (01:59:31):
Yeah?

Speaker 19 (01:59:31):
They're electric. Yeah, they just go down the middle ground
because they they they're building it at the moment to
go all the way to cool and get an airport.
And then I think they're advancing it to go all
the way to the current where the train goes, but
it doesn't go into Gold Coaster. The trams are going
to link up off the track there maybe it's the
street or something.

Speaker 3 (01:59:52):
And then yeh is there more than one connected.

Speaker 19 (01:59:58):
Trams?

Speaker 16 (01:59:58):
Yeah, there will be, yeah, so as it.

Speaker 3 (02:00:00):
Could almost be. I think that's they call that light rail,
do they? I don't even know what the difference is,
but I'm always trying to work that out.

Speaker 19 (02:00:05):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, that's light rail. Yeah. You can get
one every five minutes to get around the Gold Coast.

Speaker 3 (02:00:11):
It seems to work. Well, Hey, how's the weather beed?
I say it, you've had a terrible year. Is it
still running the whole time?

Speaker 19 (02:00:17):
No, it's been pretty dry the last few weeks. I've
been hoping it will brain because really the water in
our tanks. But he's not been too bad.

Speaker 3 (02:00:24):
Are you running stock?

Speaker 7 (02:00:26):
Now?

Speaker 19 (02:00:27):
We've just got twelve acres of trees, so I need
to cut them down. But yeah, oh yeah, we're carpet
pythons fighting on our roof the other day.

Speaker 3 (02:00:35):
What what what a carpet what?

Speaker 18 (02:00:38):
Oh?

Speaker 19 (02:00:38):
Carpet python. There two males they come out and they
fight to try and impress the female apparently. And then yeah,
so they were fighting on the roof and then randomly
he comes out and things out on the vidgie betch
and then goes back up in the roof.

Speaker 3 (02:00:54):
Was it daytime or nighttime?

Speaker 19 (02:00:57):
Daytime?

Speaker 3 (02:00:58):
Could you hear it?

Speaker 6 (02:01:00):
Yeah?

Speaker 19 (02:01:01):
Yeah, the watchould be a video of it. When I
was at work and then I got home and she
was like can you hear that? And I'm like, well,
that's well, that's a snake coming out of the roof.
And then I'm like, oh wow, and I was like
I was a bit scared of it. And then yeah,
they say they're out of all the stakes and the
ones you want because they just think the matts and

(02:01:21):
you know, the vermin, and yeah, they're not poisonous and
they're pretty docile, like you can walk past it and
it won't even really God, just sort of home things.
It can be part of the family.

Speaker 3 (02:01:32):
How long is it?

Speaker 19 (02:01:35):
I mean about three meters? Was Yeah, if you put
your hands together and make a circle, that'll be about
as bad as that. Have you seen it a long time?

Speaker 3 (02:01:47):
Have you thought of making it a pet?

Speaker 13 (02:01:50):
Yeah?

Speaker 19 (02:01:50):
They named Simonson?

Speaker 3 (02:01:53):
Wow, So has it been? Has it been there forever?
Do you reckon?

Speaker 19 (02:01:58):
I'd say so? Apparently they're territorial.

Speaker 18 (02:02:01):
I don't know.

Speaker 19 (02:02:02):
The wife did a whole lot of stake research before
we move on, had none and she's like, you know,
I want to leave. They're not dangerous. It's territorial. It'll
be all right, like you reckon And then.

Speaker 3 (02:02:12):
Yeah, so she's the expert to say they're mating, they're
fighting for that, she's that she's a sneak expert, now
is she?

Speaker 19 (02:02:20):
Yeah, she takes videos of it, put them on a
stake pad that she's joined that now.

Speaker 24 (02:02:29):
To get rid of her.

Speaker 2 (02:02:32):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (02:02:35):
Is it allowed in the house?

Speaker 7 (02:02:38):
No?

Speaker 19 (02:02:38):
Yeah, I was just in the roof because if we
get to the house and it's probably We've got twenty
baby chicks on the back around it, so in the house,
so that probably wouldn't be good for them.

Speaker 3 (02:02:48):
But yeah, okay, good story, Jamie, you liked that about
the snake, the cap at steak. Nice stuff eighteen past
even looking forward to your calls. But yeah, the major
And I guess I've I've had a lot to say
in just to clarify my views. I don't know what
went wrong with this country where we used to have
public transport with trains, but now it's become luxury transport

(02:03:12):
for tourists. And I think that happened without us even
having a discussion and say, oh we don't want those trains,
that's just make them two thousand for a family of
four to Greymouth. It's kind of crazy to me having
both of there is a luxury component to the train,
but have it cheap for people from the coast to
go to christ Jurch could be a huge thing because yeah,

(02:03:36):
we know that that whole area christ Church, I mean,
it's Canterbury. Just to trains across Canterbury a great thing
because that's where the growth is happening. I do think,
and I've often said they I do think It's crazy
when they did the rebuild of christ Church after the
quake that they didn't focus that on some sort of
rail corridor as well. But oh well, there's going to
be massive roads and massive toll roads. But I think

(02:03:59):
the Wellington region's got it right with the fact that
they have got good railways and good commuter trains and
they're actually committing to that go from white and Upper
which is Marston and Greytown and Fielding and Carterton into
Wellington and from Wellington the other wayup through par Kakaiki
up to Parmerston North. I forget the other towns or
Tucky curt remember the others. I think any thing they

(02:04:22):
could prove to do a whole loop around as well,
could they?

Speaker 5 (02:04:24):
Why not?

Speaker 3 (02:04:26):
The train still goes up the gorge, does it. I
think that's still there. It's on the other side from
where the slip was. And so it made the very
good point, but that we should put the trains now.
They've got the commuter things just about opening an orc
and they should serve the trains. These battery ones, these
battery powered trains going from the end of the on
the Western Line out from Swanson right out to Helensville

(02:04:49):
through who are Pie and Cumu? And that would be
of use for people because I'll tell you what, it's
a long road into town from there. It's free choc
a block, Marcus, been here. Always happens with new trains
not made for usiand not enough room for bikes and
luggagem has not even made for New Zeen and rail
mark is the first interracial kiss on TV was being

(02:05:11):
Captain Kirk and Aeutendant Ohuda on the episode. Not the
first one, though, was it was on the first one? Yeah,
Tony Marcus, welcome, good evening, Hello there, I am good Tony.

Speaker 24 (02:05:26):
Hey spelling. I remember me years ago with my brother
or my sister and getting my little book send him
with me every evening my little notebook, and we went
spelling and you had to learn all the words you
get tested on the next day of school. Yeah, And

(02:05:50):
I think it was a great thing because I know
how to spell quite well now.

Speaker 3 (02:05:55):
I have recollections of having like a I think we
all had like a a plastic soap box that they
put words on cardboard and that you have to take
out and spell. Yeah.

Speaker 24 (02:06:07):
Also, I've got grandkids these days, and I remember a
couple of years ago. Now, I want to a times
table chat from my grandson. Yes, and he was quite
quite you know, sort of what's the screendead.

Speaker 17 (02:06:24):
You know.

Speaker 24 (02:06:25):
And anyway, I went home after being any visiting for
the weekend, and I've got pictures and commentary of the
young fellows learning his times tables.

Speaker 13 (02:06:36):
Right.

Speaker 3 (02:06:36):
Yeah, it's funny because I drummed into my kids at timetables.
It wasn't easy because but but after because I think
these days they don't so much teach the timetables, but
teach how you can work it out, like four times
eight is the same, like sort of two times twelve

(02:06:57):
is the same as four times six. They do techniques
and stuff so you can. Yeah, I think there's I
think nothing beats knowing the times tables.

Speaker 24 (02:07:06):
Yeah, I remember at school were religiously you know, from
a one and from a two. You know, you did
one times one as one, two times to one times two,
all of that, and you go through them right up
to twelve and you learned.

Speaker 3 (02:07:20):
Yeah, but I think I think tony modern teaching has
found that some of those people were that sort of
right learning put some off myths for life. So you've
got to be a bit careful with it, but yeah,
I think there's something to be said to know. Were
your tables?

Speaker 24 (02:07:33):
Yep, I got Psycho. I've watched the original and the
remake and I enjoyed both of them.

Speaker 3 (02:07:40):
Yeah me too, yep.

Speaker 24 (02:07:42):
Yeah, great movies. Absolute. You know Alpra's Hitchcock at his best.
Also sharks. You want to talk about sharks?

Speaker 7 (02:07:54):
Yes, okay.

Speaker 24 (02:07:57):
I've had quite a few experiences with sharks. My most
recent one was we're trolling for Marlin and and right
in the back corner of the boat and all of
a sudden, all hell broke loose and it was a
big thresher. Well I think we just about ran straight
out the top of him, and he whipped his tail

(02:08:18):
across and hit the road, just about knocked it out
of the rod holder in the back corner and whacked
the motor. And I was standing right there and I
was like, WHOA, what the hell will just happened? It
was a big thresher. And also had a Marco jump
in the boat at two o'clock in the morning at

(02:08:38):
mcrey Island.

Speaker 3 (02:08:40):
Wow was it hard to remove?

Speaker 24 (02:08:44):
It was extremely difficult. On six four in New Years.
Bigger than I am and we pitned them up against
the side of the boat with the chili bin and
what that thought we could do?

Speaker 2 (02:09:00):
Yeah, knocked over.

Speaker 24 (02:09:01):
Actually I was standing in the back corner on the
left out of the water for the second time, and
came lying in the boat knocked me over. I ended
up on the floor. We gammed and chili bean up
against them and threw a tail over his head. And
in the end we realized he was so big we
couldn't actually safely get him out of the boat. So

(02:09:23):
we had to dispatch of the poor marco.

Speaker 3 (02:09:29):
How we wanted Tony. How had it got on the boat?

Speaker 24 (02:09:33):
Well, I hooked it and took the back flip out
of the water about I don't know, twenty or thirty
yards away, and within three or four seconds he came
flying in over the side of the boat, out of
the war doing another backflip, and cleaned me out, like
absolutely just I was row bowlden asshole so the outside

(02:09:57):
of the boat, and it was flapping around on the
boat and it was absolutely mental. And here we we
put a knife down the back of its head and
perfectly killed it. And the blood in the boat was horrendous,

(02:10:17):
and we didn't catch anymore fish at night. Strangely enough,
after we threw it over the side eventually.

Speaker 3 (02:10:26):
Yeah, that does sound a bit grim. So I had
a hole had a hok in its mouth that was
on board the boat.

Speaker 7 (02:10:31):
Is that right?

Speaker 24 (02:10:32):
Yeah, we've been catching some really really good snappers. One
of them actually threw up really nice squallops on the
on the floor of the boat when we got it in.

Speaker 5 (02:10:44):
Wow.

Speaker 24 (02:10:46):
Yeah, this bizarre night full moon I think was probably
the key to the whole episode.

Speaker 3 (02:10:55):
What should what should have you done with the shark
when it comes in like that? What's the what in hindsight?
What should have you done?

Speaker 5 (02:11:02):
Well?

Speaker 24 (02:11:03):
It was, you know, like I said, on six foot four,
and it was bigger than me, and.

Speaker 3 (02:11:08):
You know, it was no way you could handle it out.
Is there no way you can actually keep it down?

Speaker 24 (02:11:13):
We couldn't. We didn't want to kill it, but we
couldn't get out of the boat safely.

Speaker 3 (02:11:17):
And how many on how many are on the boat?

Speaker 24 (02:11:20):
Three of us? Yeah, okay, it was two o'clock in
the morning. Hell yeah, it was a very bizarre thing
to happen. But it was scary, amazing and and all

(02:11:42):
of those things all at once. But you know, we
love to tell the tale.

Speaker 2 (02:11:48):
Are you are you?

Speaker 3 (02:11:49):
Are you out fishing? Are you a Skipotonia? You're a
cruel used out fishing often?

Speaker 24 (02:11:53):
I used to we were fishing on my own but
that night, but I've been involved in charter businesses and
things like that. So and having to have the skipper
that released the chatter with on the boat at the
same time, and we came to the conclusion we're not
going to win this battle. There only one thing we

(02:12:17):
can do, and it wasn't what we wanted, but we
did it. And Yeah, anyway, another little side subject. Here's
the white beat going down your way?

Speaker 3 (02:12:28):
Haven't heard yet? I reckon, I reckon. It's going to
be an early season though. I haven't spoken to my mate,
but there's been. There's been a lot of the turns
in the harbor, and they seem to come when the
white bait are there. Normally they come much later on,
like in October, so I don't know why they are
there early.

Speaker 24 (02:12:47):
Ye, Well, the skip check tune you're talking about.

Speaker 3 (02:12:50):
No, the two in the birds he is scip check.

Speaker 14 (02:12:54):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (02:12:54):
I don't know what they are, but they're always aways.
They're always.

Speaker 24 (02:13:00):
We call them the white bat bird fish yeah, yeah, but.

Speaker 3 (02:13:03):
They have been busy in the last couple of days.

Speaker 24 (02:13:06):
Good sin when they're around.

Speaker 3 (02:13:08):
Yes, so I imagine they're probably there. But look, I'll
catch up with my mate this week and I'll report
back because it's.

Speaker 2 (02:13:15):
All right.

Speaker 3 (02:13:15):
This season changed, didn't it. I couldn't work up. But
it does start on the first year, it does start
two months. I'll find out Tony our report back. But
nice to hear from you.

Speaker 7 (02:13:23):
Thank you.

Speaker 1 (02:13:24):
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