They're not biscuity enough (12 November 2024)

Marcus has a gripe with the state of biscuits in New Zealand, and gets into our country's rich elephant history.

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Speaker 1 (00:07):
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Speaker 2 (00:12):
Greetings, welcome, could even be one of miss Marcus Hurdle
twelve o'clock. I hope it's good where you are. Welcome
to the show. If you've got breaking newser let's know
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to two nine two, thing's happening in the next four hours.
I'll keep you updated with that. Back at you too
if youve got an update quickly on the Cup and Swayzy,

(00:35):
how good is this horse? Are you going to report too?
From the Cup and Cup day? Wouldn't mind hearing from you.
It's still something year after year. I say, I've never
experienced that, and I meant to one year. This year
wasn't the year always comes at the time of the
year we're busy with everything else. But that was today.
I certainly saw plenty of people on Facebook heading off
to the races and doing all of that. So who've

(00:57):
got a comment on that? If you are heading home
winding your way home from that Swayzy one went back
to back. I presume it's named after Patrick Swayzey. Don't
know much else about that, but there we go. I
think it was just I think it was racing on
Friday in Australia and came across by plane, obviously and
quarantined and good to go. It's an incredible horse back

(01:19):
to back. You know, it's sort of horse they calling it.
They're calling it a sledgehammer of a horse. Wow, flew
across on Friday. Someone on Friday rang and told us
he'd go back to back seven hour trip. Must be
a slow plane for the old horses, or that might
be from the from the cars. Oh, by the way,
the zoo got rid of a elephant today. Now in

(01:44):
Australia and Adelaide, when the elephant arrives, they are closing
the streets and given a police escort. You would have
thought Auckland Zoo would have done a bit of a
send off for the elephant, wouldn't you like, closed off
the streets that people could sort of pay homage to it.
I don't know if that's the thing, but it seems
as though in Australia making a big song and dance

(02:05):
about here we just at a crate, probably severely medicated
I would think. So that's the last of the elephants.
All gone, gone, Burger, no more elephants. It's a very
every good thing that also too. So yeah, you'll remember
elephants over the years. I think people could ride them,
and we've had a long, storied history of elephants in

(02:25):
this country in but it wasn't so long ago. You
go to work functions, work parties, there'd be an elephant there.
Maybe to get a police source, get escord in New Zealand,
but for a while there. You go to any old
corporate function, be a Vodafone party, that'd wheel out the elephant.

(02:50):
So there we go. That's the elephant gone. So the
one there was one at the zoo, that private zoo
and Tuaco that's gone because it killed its keeper. Now
this one's gone. I don't know if there's any the
wild Safari Park and christ Church. Who knows where they
all are anyway, So that's a situation we are now

(03:14):
elephant This is a country which is really interesting because
we've had and this might bore some of you, however,
I will try and explain it to you. We have
had elephants in this country for a long long time.

(03:40):
I remember doing some research for a project I was
working on, and there was an elephant in Dunedin in
about eighteen sixty three. Because he brought an exotic animal
to the country. In those days, you just take it
around the country and you would charge people to see it.

(04:03):
An elephant. It was a license to print money. So
that's like one hundred and sixty years we have had elephants.
I know that because they tried to get across one
of those rivers on a punt. It's a very interesting
story that I'll see if I can find my notes
about that New Zealand's first elephant. It was a long

(04:24):
long time ago. In fact, I said eighteen sixty three
hours out by five years. It was eighteen sixty eight. See,
the gold money had to settle down. They had money,
and someone brought an elephant across yep. So there you go.

(04:45):
I'll see if I can find the first details. An
eighteen sixty o hat a carnival owner and ported a
live elephant. The individual was exhibited first in Dunedin before
being walked to christ Church. Imagine being and he's end
in eighteen sixty eight. You see an elephant on the

(05:06):
way consume the highly poisonous Touto plant and died near
Tuntruon in North Otaga. I think it was waiting for
the punt and the skeleton was sold to the Colonial
Museum and is now in Tipapa. And in fact, Elephant
Rocks and Duntruon are named after the elephant, not because

(05:26):
they's shaped like an elephant. The place where the elephant
died was named Elephant Hill but is now called Elephant Rocks.
Many people believe the area was named after the elephant,
like limestone formations, never imagined that a real elephant briefly
lived and died there. Yep, So there we go. That's

(05:47):
a great story that. So we're out without elephants. So
there we go. That's a situation now. So we've had
elephant in the country off and on since eighteen sixty eight,
and now there's none. I'm not saying this is a
talkbak topic, but you might fondly remember the days of

(06:08):
the elephant at the Auckland Zoo. You'd ride them. There'd
be some sort of thing up the top when you
jump on there. I think what they called an elephant carriage.
It's got a special name anyway, Please haven't remembered all
that information, got off, got it to depart to you

(06:29):
so easily anyway. But if you want to talk about Swayzey,
by the way, it's called a howder as the carriage
that you put on top of an elephant to ride in.
I like elephants and got a lot of time for elephants.
I think elephants belong and pecks in the wild, because

(06:51):
it seems most elephants that came to he is in
eight tow to and died, so we didn't treat them
that well. Thirteen past eight ninet two nine tix ow
weight had an eighty taddy. If you're coming home from
the tron and gap leaters know how that was. You
might have run one money on Swayzey, and you might
want to talk about your into with elephants in this country.
It seems now as though we have none. There are

(07:13):
elephants with circuses their elephants, and zoos their elephants everywhere,
but not anymore. It wasn't so long ago there was
one anu a that was over there being quarantined before
it came to New Zealand as Shri Lankan one. But
they gave up on that. By the way, did anyone
read in the weekend's papers? I meant to since they're
an an animal rent do you one read in the

(07:35):
weekend papers? There is a guy in Hawk's Bay who
wants to bring pandas to New Zealand. Thought he was
a dreamer, but good on them. It's going to cost
seventeen million dollars for pandaland he's a retired businessman. Don't
you love a retired businessman? Last roll of the dice.

(07:59):
He wants to spend seven and a half million to
house two giant pandas on loan from China. Yeah, he
wants to lease two beers. You should be start growing
the bamboo. Although they recognize of those pandas are just

(08:20):
people in suits, aren't they. There was some discussion about
that that when the cameras went went around there just
sort of talking to each other. Anyway, I don't know
if I'm for that or against that. Many may be
slightly more exciting than an art deco festival. I guess
we've all been to one of those. Get in touch
by name is Marcus, Elephant and pandas. That's the topics

(08:41):
to start the discussion with. And also Swazy the horse.
It's gone back to back. Marcus. I have memories of
going to Winnington To about thirty five years ago and
putting coins on a painted outline of elephant on the ground.
I think was trying to raise funds to buy a
new one. Tish Oh no, they thought the name was Tish.

(09:04):
But a textas says at least there'll be no more
elephants in the room for a good point, Marcus. I
used to ride the elephant Auckland's soo. We just sat
behind the ears. A lot of people in Auckland probably
have fond memories of the elephant at the zook. It
was all tied in with the ASB bank and banking
I think plenty and they called it cash in because

(09:26):
you put the cash in the bank. I don't know
what came first the week pun or it was a
reverse pun. Don't have Kashi in as racial elephant name
or what that is anyway, but Burmer has gone in
a crate. South Australian police are giving Burmer a special

(09:49):
police escort. Is expected to land in Adelaide about half
past seven in New Zealand time. So it's landed and
it'll be heading off to its farm herd sanctuary. Yep,
that's happening about now. So there we go, oh, eight

(10:10):
hundred and eighty chatty and nine to nine to text.
There's other stuff we need to talk about tonight. In fact,
there's all sorts of enjoyed last night immensely all about
trade me something I will thought, I will start with tonight,
and I'll come through with a sweeping gyernization. You can
see whether you want to a pine on this or not.

(10:35):
I reckon. We've got a problem with biscuits. Everyone seems,
how do I say this elegantly, too many rubbish biscuits
covered in chocolate, the taste of nothing. I think Cad
Breeze or whoever's making the biscuits is using chocolate to
disguise meaning meaningless, tasteless biscuits. What if you go to

(11:03):
a shared place and there's biscuits, they're no good. You
notice that they're more like chocolates with a biscuit inside them.
They're not biscuity enough, like a rocky road. All those
sorts of ones. I think the mallow puff was the
beginning of the end, and they've all gone that kind
of all mouth and trap, you know, all looks and appearances,

(11:23):
but no substance. And I'm thinking back to the good
old days of the farm bake biscuits where they called
farm bake or home bake. Could you call them a
home bake? I thought there's a type of home bake,
farm bake anyway, someone will know are they're home bake anyway.
So yeah, I've got a problem there with biscuits. An
it's farm bake, very very good, but these ones is

(11:44):
the shelves are full of just rubbish at the supermarket.
I don't know if you want to if you want
to share my thoughts on that one or agree with me,
but yeah, I think we I think if there ever
was a golden age of biscuits, it's not now it's
anything but keep your texts coming through also tonight people

(12:04):
biscuits terrible, Marcus. Most circuses in my day had elephants.
I think what happened with the elephants. Normally when the
circus would come to down, they would let an elephant
escape accidentally on purpose to get the headlines on the
paper to promote the circus. Seemed to be as trick

(12:25):
as old as time itself. Elephants and biscuits and that's
elephants and biscuits, and that's just the start. Andrew AT's Marcus,
Welcome and good evening.

Speaker 3 (12:35):
I agree with home marks.

Speaker 4 (12:36):
How are you good?

Speaker 2 (12:37):
Thank you? Andrew? How are you all right?

Speaker 5 (12:39):
Good?

Speaker 6 (12:40):
Thank you?

Speaker 3 (12:40):
Agree with the biscuit thing.

Speaker 5 (12:41):
My daughter made some.

Speaker 3 (12:42):
They just move back in with us, and she made
some homemade biscuits.

Speaker 7 (12:47):
Last night.

Speaker 3 (12:47):
It was so nice and we started talking about how
everything's got chocolate on.

Speaker 2 (12:52):
It tweet because I think, and I just think, you
can make an ordinary biscuit and dress that with chocolate
and people will buy it. But there there's no resistance
to the mouth, and they're terrible to eat. They're just
two bites of they're forgettable. Yeah, I've got a problem. Anyway.

Speaker 3 (13:10):
Hey, I was once bordering the Hinter Island Ferry from
let's say Picton to Wellington, not sure which way. No,
it was at Wellington pcton because I member was in
Wellington and they were load We could see them loading up.
It was raining and it was dark, was late at night,
and they were loading up a circus railway carriages. Wow wow,

(13:30):
And they had these elephants on them and they got
so stressed and so scared.

Speaker 7 (13:38):
It actually pretty much.

Speaker 3 (13:39):
Put me off going to circuses that have got big animals.
At the time, I thought we shouldn't have less than.

Speaker 2 (13:44):
Some circuses must be a while ago. Was it thirty
years ago?

Speaker 5 (13:49):
Oh, fifty years ago?

Speaker 2 (13:51):
Okay, okay, wow, it can't be nice.

Speaker 3 (13:54):
It's very very stressful to watch.

Speaker 2 (13:56):
And yeah, yeah, I think that's why are we're doing
that to animals. I think those circus trains were quite well.
Fortunately there's fortunately there's no animals and circuses are no
animals and zoos as of today, the last one left.
It's probably something we should celebrate. I'm not quite sure.
I'm not quite sure we do what the biscuits thank

(14:17):
you Andrew twenty four past eight. They used to bring
him across by ship in the Euly days for circus
because famously there's a skeleton. There was a ship coming
to Bluff for a circus and they had an elephant

(14:38):
as part of the circus had died at sea as
are coming past Stuart Island, so they did what you
do if you're transport an elephant. They pushed it over
the sides. I'm not quite sure how they would have
pushed it over the side because you have to kind
of widget and use the motion of the ship. But

(15:00):
it washed up on Mason's Bay, which is the big
beach on the west of Stuart Island. It's about forty
k's long, and yeah, it's buried there. People have gone
to try and find out where the elephant skeleton is.
But yeah, there's elephant buried there also, which is pretty amazing.
But yeah, it'd be a bad day out the sea
when your elephant died on board this ship getting touched

(15:22):
by name's Marcus. Elephants and biscuits and all sorts of
other stuff. Today here till twelve o'clock broad Churchyard here
keep it going texts about elephants. We are elephant free.
Marcus totally agree. The biscuits on off are rubbish on
that subject. Maybe you can make a Friday Night anything

(15:44):
goes where listens can call them with their favorite Christmas
treats and cake recipes. I quite like a cake recipe night.
But for those that aren't into cakes, they would tune out.
You gotta be careful with the topic. I see what
I like for about cakes. I like I was thinking
about that today. I think what would be good for
a cake recipe? Show would be. What works well on

(16:08):
talkback is three ingredient cakes because you can remember it
rather have to go around and get a pen and
write stuff down. One cup of you know how it goes.
Marcus totally agree with you about biscuits. They all have
got the false teeth. They don't have that beautiful buttery crumble. No,
they've got no buttery crumble. It's just rubbish. Marcus totally

(16:31):
agree on the biscuits. I don't go buy from any
supermarket now. They are all made them smaller as well,
not much taste. I don't know what the solution is
for those biscuits. I just think that's it's the cost
of making food locally. They've tried to cut costs. Normally,
when they say new improved recipe, it normally means they've
skipped on the ingredients and they found a cheaper way

(16:54):
to make it, which is probably palm kernel and margarine
and nothing you'd want in your system. Though, RFK Junior
is going to sort all that out. Odds socks day
to day, no troubles odd socks. I think once upon
a time would be better if the will just made
one type of sox. We wouldn't have to actually mix
them up. And anyway, I can tell you too. New

(17:16):
Zealanders are spending over a billion dollars a year on potatoes,
over a billion dollars worth of potatoes, mainly in form
of potato chips. Sure that's not good for you anyway,
you might want to mention something that's one of the
new trends and food. How many potato chips were all eating?

(17:38):
I think my comment on the biscuits is that I'm
going to beat the drum a bit tonight. They've become
obsessed with chocolate biscuits. There's actually no one really wants
apart from a mellow puff. Most of them are horrible.
So all a good basic biscuit that's all about baking,
which is one of the great skills they've given up

(17:58):
on that. You've got a few bogs down as you're
crispy and your ginger nup, but nothing else. Everything else
is some chocolate rocky row or some ghastly concoction. Am
I wrong? I don't think I am. I've thought about
this for at least six months. It's been festering, this
theory of mine. Marcus biscuit manufactures are only rests in

(18:19):
product and profits. Tastes not important as long as they're
sweet chocolate type coating exactly. Marcus countdown Wilworth's own brand
ginger nut biscuits are a secret masterpiece of the bistic world.
Super cheap and much tastier than the branded ones. Marcus

(18:39):
first time list a long time Texter, long time listed,
first time Texter. Personally, I think the quality has gone down,
the price has gone up. With my minimum wage job,
I can no longer afford my double coated tim Tams.
By the way, Emy, I love your show. I reckon
that was a bean of the end. I think it
was the I think that when biscuits went bad, it
was the mellow puff toffee pop tim Tam. It was

(19:05):
that was where it all went wrong, and they went
down the wrong track with all of that. None of
those were good. They will sort of luxury in this
great hidden treat, but basically you want a biscuit that
sort of standard and quite generic and relaxed. Marcus used
to ride Jamuna the Elephant back in the sixties. My
little brother got picked and placed on the outer wall

(19:25):
of the zoo. Tony Tanks it's a good name. Tony
Tanks might all be about the price of butter. Anyway,
high rent, it's Marcus. Good evening and welcome some of
the Marcus.

Speaker 8 (19:39):
Is he doing good. I'm standing at bus stop right here,
so I've only had a few minutes. I'm intrigued by
your chopolate biscuits and I think that the one bit
the chopo busin that maintained its interirity is the the
the chocolate digesters.

Speaker 2 (19:56):
Yeah, Greg gretentirely because they're still good today. And it's
but it's not it's not just a biscuit, a bad
biscuit made good bye cho Actually it's integral to it,
the chocolate half of it's a very good biscuit.

Speaker 4 (20:11):
Yeah it's great.

Speaker 8 (20:13):
It's not for dunking, but you know, but it's a
great one to have around the house.

Speaker 2 (20:16):
So yeah, oh look, I mean you mean so much
to me, the fact you've called as you're about to
get on your basprint.

Speaker 8 (20:21):
Yeah, this your idea, it comes. It's forty forty two,
so make forty two. So I'm not too fair away.

Speaker 2 (20:26):
Now you got nice to hear from your bread. You've
got two minutes. Brilliant Marcus Local Wilworth does their own
Anzac biscuits tray for six dollars. Outstanding bears, Marcus try
Cookie Time biscuits yummy and have good biscuits.

Speaker 7 (20:41):
I'm not.

Speaker 2 (20:41):
I don't know about Cookie Time. I don't know. I mean, yeah,
those I don't know about the students kind of selling
biscuits outside shops. And it's a charity, but it's not
is it just take the money themselves. It's the fundraise.
I've never quite I've always felt kind of odd about that.

(21:08):
That's my own personal journey though, you know why I
felt it felt like, Yeah, although I'll tell you what,
those froze and ice block things. They are tremendous. That
ice cream biscuits slice I see and the magnums are
copying those now that they were that good? That chocolate,
what was to die for? Maybe I just don't like biscuits.

(21:31):
But once in a while I'll be at a place
in there be a packet biscuits. I'm not saying where
it is. I think, well we can try one of those.
But yeah, and the only word I can use to
describe them would be unmemorable. Look pretty amazing. That Alca
and close amount mong annuis this morning unbelievable. The footage
of that. Wow, such beautiful things are the orcers amazing?
How the black is so black and the white is

(21:51):
so white, and what nature's doing there. Chris Marcus, welcome.

Speaker 9 (21:56):
Okay Marcus. I wanted to call you about those animal
biscuits that we had when we're a bit younger. I
always thought that like the green one taste like lime,
the red one maybe maybe strawberry, and the yellow one
might be live. But they were all the same flavor.

Speaker 10 (22:15):
And I call it a tragedy, were.

Speaker 2 (22:17):
They not only were they all the same flavor, they
kind of they weren't that well. They all looked like
chicken nuggets. They didn't have much shape to them because
I guess you couldn't have shaped them because the legs
would snap off in the packets. They were a dud.

Speaker 9 (22:31):
I mean, yeah, as a kid, you might like them,
but I love and I say no, no notice should
have been separate, yea different flavors in the box.

Speaker 2 (22:40):
I think they're a parenting test if you're stupid enough
to buy your kids, though you don't deceive to have kids,
because I mean, they're crazy biscuits. Can I say that.

Speaker 9 (22:51):
That's an awesome a statement because ideally they should even
fruits and vegetables and.

Speaker 2 (22:56):
No, but it's a gimmick biscuit. And I mean, what
what is saying to a kid to eat an animal?
I mean, what is I just I'm just not into it.

Speaker 9 (23:05):
Yeah, I'm with on that. Yeah, anyway, old to buy
a pack of those biscuits again, because I can't. I'm
across the bitch.

Speaker 2 (23:12):
Have have my kids eating animal biscuits? They probably have,
So I'm also a hapocrit just putting that out there. Anyway,
go on, yep, have I told you?

Speaker 4 (23:21):
I was just say like.

Speaker 9 (23:22):
Maybe your wife treats them when you're away, because.

Speaker 2 (23:25):
You know, who knows what goes on in that fair
who actually who actually knows what goes on when I'm
not there? But anyway, yep, you.

Speaker 9 (23:36):
Did say earlier on.

Speaker 10 (23:39):
You know the three.

Speaker 9 (23:41):
Ingredient recipes for biscuits, and then you might not want
that to come on here, But there's one biscuit that's
special to a lot of us people of the South,
and it's shortbread. Yeah, you cream your butter and sugar
and you go fifty to fifty with that, Like normally
you probably use icing sugar or you know, a fine

(24:02):
grained sugar and cream it and then you just put
them the same. It's not a little bit maybe more slour.

Speaker 2 (24:11):
What's going on the background? What's going on the background?

Speaker 9 (24:14):
I've got birth flying around?

Speaker 4 (24:16):
Sorry about that?

Speaker 2 (24:16):
Have you have you? There is a gala?

Speaker 9 (24:19):
No no, no, they're actually Indian minor birds. Lots lots
of them up here, but a bit of bes.

Speaker 4 (24:25):
I feed them.

Speaker 9 (24:27):
But anyway, so the short bread. Three ingredient resc best
biscuit you get in the world, and a little dash
of vanilla essence. Walle it's a dough, is it?

Speaker 2 (24:38):
Is it another? The third ingredient?

Speaker 9 (24:41):
No, that's the fourth, but it's not really an ingredient,
you know what I mean. That's that's the cheeky little
throw and if you want a little bit of flavor.

Speaker 2 (24:48):
But what was the third? Butter sugar and.

Speaker 9 (24:52):
Butter sugar and then flour, oh yeah yeah yeah, and
then and then an accidental little wash of something on
the side that no one mentioned, and then you've got
yourself a really good short bread.

Speaker 2 (25:06):
Can those miners talk? Can you teach them? They almost
sound like they're trying to vocalize.

Speaker 11 (25:13):
I'm gonna say I've got crows.

Speaker 9 (25:14):
I've got you like you know in Australia, there's so
many birds here. They're flying around doing their mental stuff.
But you know, I throw a lot of food out
onto the grass to feed the more because I just
liked seeing them.

Speaker 10 (25:25):
Do their life.

Speaker 2 (25:26):
They is excited about their new super player. Oh yes, Joseph.
He was extraordinary Joseph. I watched that game, unbelievable.

Speaker 9 (25:41):
He played out of his skin. And he's the type
of hero. They need an union here right now because
after Israel Flower's social mistakes, this guy is the same
sort of athletes and he and people will feed off
his energy in that team. So that was like my
prediction was England by fifteen.

Speaker 2 (26:03):
So he had you put money on it.

Speaker 11 (26:06):
No, I don't put Okay, that's good.

Speaker 2 (26:08):
That's good. That's good. That's what that's I want to know,
because if you haven't to make your own biscuits because
you lost all your money on the rate on the
footy's to worry anyway. Nice to talk to you, Chris,
Thank you. So my point is about biscuits. I'm going
to bang on about this a bit more because I've
thought it. I'm just my thoughts are crystallizing. We used
to make our own biscuits, but we got busy dropping

(26:32):
kids off to sport, you know, I mean, life's busy,
stuck in traffic, going to open homes. What else are
we doing with the time we didn't used to do,
going to escape rooms, walking endlessly around the shopping walls
in the week. I don't know what people are doing,
but people don't have much spare time, so I guess

(26:53):
supermarket biscuits were supposed to replicate the sort of biscuits
we'd make, but no, not anymore. What they've done is
just making making them into a chocolate, chocolate covered nonsense.
They've kind of lost the whole spirit of the biscuit.
Those home bake or farm bake, I forget what they
call a homebake biscuits, they were the ones. And those
bags with a kid on the train that was a
good ad, I mean kid off the boarding school on

(27:14):
the train, Marcus. Cookie time sellers have to buy the biscuits,
Freemed ended up with buckets unsold. Really were the worst
time possibly in it with a bucket of biscuits. Because
the Christmas is the time when everyone's got too much
of everything. Those stupid candy cane to invented those needs
to be taken somewhere. Marcus. As a child growing up

(27:38):
in Auckland in the nineteen fifties, the high of the
day at Auckland Zoo was our ride on the back
of Jumanu, the zoo's female elephant. Sadly, she suffered from
painful feet in later years. One day, my brother leapt
over the barrier beside Jamuna's compound to retrieve some nuts

(27:59):
that had been tossed to her, and quick as a
flesh of trunk, shot through the bars and worked them
across the head. Shocked but not hought. Shocked but not hurt.
That goodness, Dawn, say, there's something I've never met anyone
that doesn't like an elephant. You travel a long way
to meet an elephant, Denier, you're kind of the animal
that could unite nations. Anyway, we haven't gotten anymore. We've

(28:23):
had them since eighteen sixty eight. Used to be on
a biscuit shops like we had machineries on Queen Street,
machines tuning them out like I'm big rollers. I think
we've passed peak biscuits. Probably a good thing actually, anyway,
Craig Marcus, welcome.

Speaker 4 (28:40):
Get in there.

Speaker 8 (28:40):
He has a game.

Speaker 2 (28:41):
Good Craig, thank you.

Speaker 10 (28:43):
Yeah, my mum used to do a lot of biscuits
when we were Kurds. If we always tend to stick
steal the unquick biscuit.

Speaker 4 (28:48):
Mix oer and wasn't looking, which she was pretty happy
about that.

Speaker 2 (28:51):
But they were never chocolate biscuits, were they. No, No, no,
it's something covered in Chocolate's not a biscuit. I don't think.
I think it's just it's just a it's just a
food crime.

Speaker 4 (29:03):
Yeah.

Speaker 10 (29:04):
I used to like the iron that's used to do
a chocolate an orange chocolate chip biscuit. It's really really nice,
and then they pulled it off. But my view is like,
if you to give a whole of people a whole
lot of biscuits and blind blindfold them and say what
type is it? Chocolate biscuits, you're very hard passed to
tell what it is. They're kind of all taste the same, really,
apart from the chocolate.

Speaker 2 (29:22):
Yeah, they do, and it's full of palm kernel. It's disgusting.

Speaker 10 (29:28):
Oh yeah, I didn't have that problem with Cabery's. A
while ago they switched to palm kin and everyone.

Speaker 2 (29:31):
Hated it, so we went back to they did they though?
Did they?

Speaker 5 (29:36):
Well?

Speaker 4 (29:36):
Apparently it tasted funny. I don't know, but.

Speaker 2 (29:40):
Ed did ked We go back to camb fam palm
kernel beg to not using palm kernel.

Speaker 10 (29:48):
I heard they had done that. It was in the media,
so but who knows what they do. But even the
old milo's changed. I mean they've changed the brain and
let doesn't taste the same as what they used to
e real thing. It's kind of they think to ruin
all the good things they reckon. But yes, you're talking
about the luggage. My next to the neighbor's got a dog.
He gets out of how out of the yard. They
calls them ship called the dog?

Speaker 4 (30:09):
Who didn't he?

Speaker 10 (30:10):
But he's got one of those apple eye tag things
on his collar, so when he gets out there he
can just get when he gets home, it's not he
just looks on his phone. It tells you the GPS
location of the dog he's got.

Speaker 2 (30:20):
He's got a fence. He's got a fence. His dog
in a bit bitter, hasn't he?

Speaker 11 (30:25):
Yeah?

Speaker 10 (30:25):
Yeah, yeah, But it keeps getting it keeps jumping over.
He gets putting the fence up higher, and he.

Speaker 4 (30:29):
Keeps getting out. So what's the dog's old eggs greyhound?

Speaker 2 (30:35):
Oh, the only eggs greyhound. Yeah, okay, there'd be a
spring little thing, won't they up?

Speaker 4 (30:38):
They go?

Speaker 10 (30:39):
Yeah, once they get out, they're gone. So yeah, but
he lives rurally, that's not too much of a major problem.
But it's just like we're ready to look on the
phone and you're like, oh, he's way down the nix
on the neighbors. You get into the nix and neighbors
and yes to the feeding the dog, that's why he's there.

Speaker 2 (30:55):
Do you live rural.

Speaker 4 (30:57):
Just out of.

Speaker 10 (30:57):
Hamilton, New Noisy n there's a lot of birds and
shipping annoyed.

Speaker 2 (31:04):
Too many birds?

Speaker 10 (31:07):
Well, Periody, they've got a problem down to Crosshes for
all the seagulls I've seen on on Currie Woodn't show
this morning. Really yeah, yeah, people are getting food taken
out of taken out of their awfully tables by seagulls,
and apparently from one of the cafeterias as a shop
building across the road that was closed down for red
line for a while and had about one hundred seagulls

(31:28):
nesting on it, which is massive.

Speaker 2 (31:33):
I would have thought coming they're into the new Regent Street. Yeah, okay,
they'll be coming from that big pond. Where is that
big pond where they probably all nest.

Speaker 10 (31:42):
Yeah yeah, so I mean, but hey, you mean, if
you're leaving food line around, it won't take a smart
seagull to figure out, hey, you hang them, there's food here.

Speaker 12 (31:49):
Yeah.

Speaker 10 (31:51):
Yeah, it's I don't know, Paul Crosis. You've got your
seagulls and you've got your Canadian goose.

Speaker 4 (31:55):
What's next?

Speaker 2 (31:56):
So exactly, I know what i'd rather have. I quite
like seagulls. Yeah they are. They are. There's a big
place sticks in your Regent Street, that big kind of
quake site that's now become a lake where they're actually
nesting in the other seagulls. I don't think, by the way,

(32:17):
I don't think it's the I don't think the country's noisy.
It's just the way it is. Swayze won the cup.
There you go, he's in the trotting cup that was
went back to back Marc's I don't know what that
guy's making, but it ain't short bread. It's a great
start to a text. Short bread has corn flour. But yes,

(32:40):
the only good biscuits is the homemade biscuit.

Speaker 12 (32:44):
Or reckon?

Speaker 2 (32:45):
Some could start up making a homemade biscuit. I think
the market's ready for it be pricedy. But you're branding right, Hi, Marcus?
How do you spell your name? I mixed the icing
for All's Brooks in nineteen seventy five upon the animal biscuits.
It was a conveyor belt that the workers placed the
biscuit upside down. They put them in containers. If they're

(33:06):
yellow or green or whatever, Brian, can you confirm, Brian
they're all the same flavor. I believe they probably were.
Please tell us about the eighteen sixty eight elephant.

Speaker 5 (33:15):
I have.

Speaker 2 (33:17):
It died at Elephant Hill. That's why it's called elephant Hill,
waiting for the punt to get across the river. It
done true, It's a true story. Marcus, totally agree. Most
terrible If you have to buy some Pam's Nice, Pam's
Finest Range, and then's stem Ginger. Never tried those, but

(33:37):
I'll look out for them. Do you need any advice
about your trip to Auckland for Coldplay? You can ask
the audience where are you going to stay? How are
you going to get there? Will Will have a drink beforehand.
There'd be no shortage of advice on this show. I
think it's three nights Tomorrow, Friday, Saturday. What you need

(34:02):
to know if you are going to Coldplay is that
no matter what happens to you after the event, if
the trains aren't there, or if the ubers aren't there,
if the taxis aren't there, it won't be long. It
won't be a long way to walk. It'd be a

(34:26):
very pleasant walk from Eden Park to Britain Mart. If
that's what where your trainer is leaving from, you could
probably do it in less than an hour. But after
a gig with everyone on a high, it's always quite
a good thing to do. So don't panic. Because after
Pink people panicked and it was tough for them because

(34:50):
I went from the high of Pink singing from that
swing or that trapeze around Oh look at that she's
in the air, look at that she's above us, to
oh my god, where are the trains? And it was
that dramatic for people because they're on the phone to me,
I'm disgusted they would saying we've had a fantastic week end.
Up from christ Church, I take my grand daughters to

(35:11):
Pink and now we are at the railway station. There's
no zigne of trains that might happen, but just walk
away in head downtown or head to get the link
or something that there will be alternatives. Don't be too fixed,
be flexible, and the trains will eventually turn up. All

(35:31):
the buses. But if you are coming up to Walkland
four four cold play, you need to know how to
get from the airport. All those things. This show is
strong on transport and logistics. If you want to know,
we'd have a beer beforehand. God, if you want to

(35:53):
know how noisy you can be walking past the houses
of the people of Mount Eden, you can be very noisy.
There's only ten concerts a year, or it might be six.
They've foughtless for long enough. Oh, by the way, here's
something I was going to ask you right. Something came

(36:13):
up on my social media feed today asking me if
I wanted to buy a franchise of a toasted sandwich
shop and pictin not how unlikely. And I used to

(36:38):
be very very critical about Picton. I used to call
it a one horse town and what was the point
of it? Until I realized that me being rude about
Picton was really upsetting the people that lived there. I
thought they made of sterner stuff. But now people getting
quite sensitive the editorials to papers, and so now I
don't mention Picton. However, have anyone's been to toasty lords

(37:04):
and Picton? Are those toasted sandwiches? And how can everyone
now they start something and they want a franchise? Isn't
franchising the beginning of the end anyway? We've talked plenty
of times about pies and about sausage roles. When we're
talking about toasted sandwiches, I mean, it looks all right,

(37:26):
but anything it Pickton would be all right. Because you're
getting ready to go. I think you're getting on the boat.
You've got tunnel hunger vision. You think you'll have a
bit of a snack before you get on the ferry.
Could be your last fairy ride too, couldn't it? The
way it all goes? Marcus Eden Park has only allowed

(37:48):
ten concerts per year, and they are wasting three of
them on Coldplay Pearl Jam, We're epicnic Yeah, I tell
you what though, it's probably the one concert those living
nearby would go to. All we're getting together, we'll go
to Coldplay coldplay is mounted and through and through. Toasty
is amazing. They need to open the corrimandal. I don't

(38:10):
think it's called toasty, is it? It was called something else?
According to my feed, it's called Lord Nelson or something didn't.
I just say that Toasty's Lord Picton's Toasty, Lord's Picton.
I don't know how good it is, but they're trying
to franchise it. I think it's a long way from
doing well and picked into franchising and around the canty

(38:31):
must be confident. Ooh, Marcus, not biscuits, but gems. Looking
to buy ginger iron plate to make ginger gems. But
I've got a ginger gem tray I can get you.

(38:52):
I got one at home, Marcus. So we've ditched the elephant.
Now we're going to least a couple of penders and
rent a couple of beers. What can I say, Supreme,
I don't think so ps. Every time I seen you
a text, you only read half of it. Why, Marcus,
Why you make a very good point about that with

(39:14):
the panda bears. Marcus. As soon as Griffin's biscuits were
sold to the Chinese, the ingredients would changed the biscuit
trays were smaller, same with Big ben pies. As soon
as the new owners took over, the baking trees were downsized.
Same as tip top bread sold to Goodwin Fields. All
the baking trays were downsized. How do I know? I
was driving for the scrap metal company that recycled them all.

(39:39):
By the way, Tiptop late bake bread was the bomb
came in a tinfoil wrapper. Regards Chris and Joe Flynn
were ripped off by Stealth Marcus forecast for tonight tomorrow
on Thursday. A lot of showers and rain and umbrellas
are forbid in an EDN park. You were a poncho,

(40:03):
You buy a poncho. Or that's bad for the environment too,
because I get thrown away. Why would you buy a
toasted sandwich franchise? Buy a sandwich maker fill your boots.
You don't know if anyone's tried this toasted sandwich and
picked them. I'm not what you were going to put
it on. In mind New Zealand food pilgrimage to her,

(40:28):
I might get a select of sandwich mariners.

Speaker 11 (40:31):
More.

Speaker 2 (40:34):
Let me take a brother, JT. Marcus.

Speaker 4 (40:36):
Welcome, Hi there, Marcus. The name Elephant and Castle. Oh,
that's in London. It's just got a London Underground station
of the same name. But the name originates of the
name of a coaching in from about two hundred and

(40:59):
fifty years ago. But they can't work out where the
name come from before that.

Speaker 2 (41:05):
Wow. Really, so it does have an Elephant connection.

Speaker 4 (41:12):
No, it's just the pub called Elephant and Castle and
they can't work out where the name come from before that.
But it's good. How all the they've got the naming
scheme for the London underground stations. They seem to name
them after the suburb and occasionally over time that will change.

(41:37):
And the only time they don't use the name of
the suburb is when there's more than one subway station
in that suburb, and that's when they will call it
after the log street or the local building. In the
case of Acting, there's seven different places with the name Acting.

(42:00):
There's Act in town and Act in the South and
all these different ones. But it's only about ad m
ups Away and Auckland will have the City Railroad.

Speaker 2 (42:10):
What I say, at the beginning of twenty twenty six,
I thought, but I presume that's going to be six
months delayed though.

Speaker 12 (42:15):
Is it.

Speaker 4 (42:16):
Well, I reckon it'll be after Easter. I'll probably try
and after Easter.

Speaker 2 (42:21):
I think i'll go up. I think go up for that.

Speaker 4 (42:25):
I'm a bit worried that the new station in Mount
Eden is called Manga Fowl.

Speaker 2 (42:30):
Yes, because that's what mount that's what Mount Eden is called.
I think that's its official name.

Speaker 4 (42:36):
Yeah, but they should name the station after the suburb,
just to make it easier. I'm a bit concerned about
being named White because it implies that it's a fury
terminal as well with the name of the sea.

Speaker 2 (42:55):
It was quite complicated because it was a point Britain
mark was there that they eroded away or something and
that's no longer there or was demolished or something. Was
there a book that you've read about the London undergund nas.

Speaker 4 (43:08):
No, it's just there was a program Secrets of London
and Underground.

Speaker 2 (43:14):
Where was that? Is it on on Sky?

Speaker 4 (43:17):
Un channeled? On Channel one? That's been on for the
last few months.

Speaker 2 (43:20):
But oh, thanks for the heats up. I would have
liked to have watched that.

Speaker 4 (43:25):
I think it's only repeats because a.

Speaker 2 (43:27):
Lot of the buildings in the London Underground they're fake buildings,
just for sades because there's a lot of stuff behind them.
Do they show those?

Speaker 4 (43:35):
No, not really, but it's surprising how many. There's a
few other station names named after hotels and prominent buildings,
but I just went through the list. I thought that
there'd be quite a few suburbs in New Zealand that
would be named after London tube stations, but I could

(43:56):
only find eight of them.

Speaker 2 (43:57):
Oh, hang on hanging, I'll be up for a challenge
like this. What are the eight You've got.

Speaker 4 (44:05):
Charing Cross with that? Each where? The Charing Cross is
out of Rollston? Is it each where in christ Church,
Farrington and Rollston? Green Park that's out of christ Church, Hampstead.
That's the suburban Ashburton Kennington. That's an area out of

(44:27):
the Cargo right, Richmond and Royal Oak.

Speaker 2 (44:33):
Did you get Bayswater, Bayswaters and Auckland.

Speaker 7 (44:40):
Oh that's what I missed.

Speaker 2 (44:42):
Yeah, Okay, that's not good because I always thought your
fact checking was pretty good.

Speaker 4 (44:47):
Well, I've got to go through the overground stations yet
as well.

Speaker 2 (44:50):
Cock Foster is a strange name for a tube station,
isn't it.

Speaker 6 (44:54):
Yeah?

Speaker 4 (44:55):
Well yeah, Elephant and Castle Rock and Tuller. We've got
some good names as well.

Speaker 2 (45:00):
You got each where?

Speaker 4 (45:03):
Yep, what's your favorite suburb name in the world?

Speaker 2 (45:08):
Blagden?

Speaker 4 (45:10):
What about Speedway and Indianapolis? And also Hell's Kitchen?

Speaker 2 (45:18):
Yeah, like Hell's Kitchen. I Blegden is the most depressing
name for suburb of New Zealand Queue Gardens. Well, there's
a Q suburban and Dicagol. Isn't there a knights Bridge
in New Zealand? Is there a Knightsbridge.

Speaker 4 (45:32):
That some fancy new subdivision.

Speaker 2 (45:35):
Made of veil? There's a there's a made a vil
in christ Church? Isn't therena veil? Isn't there a maid
of veil as well?

Speaker 13 (45:45):
I don't think so.

Speaker 12 (45:46):
You sure.

Speaker 2 (45:49):
There was a place in christ Church?

Speaker 4 (45:52):
So it'll be interesting. You know with Britomart station, people
probably been calling the area of Auckland City Britomart and
now they're going to have to start calling what matter.

Speaker 2 (46:01):
I think I think they'll cope JT. Don't you.

Speaker 4 (46:05):
But some the names in London, the railways had to
end up changing it, then named it something, and then
they've had to end up changing it about fifty years
later to more suit the local what the local area
is called. Because you don't want the confusion. I don't
see the reason for changing the Mount Eden's station name. Okay,

(46:30):
it's just confusion.

Speaker 2 (46:31):
Well, good to hear for you, JT. Thank you. No,
I'm interested the Toasted Sandwiche and Nelson and Picton rather
and people have responded to suburbs named after suburbs stations
on the Tube Waterloo, Wellington, box hilln Karandala, Knightsbridge, Napier, brilliant,

(46:53):
Marcus re I retract my retract my coldplay comment. Just
skip through some songs and they sound pretty got pretty
gosh darn good, Nick Marcus is a suburban Napan good Knightsbridge,
but gosh, thanks for a great show, Marcus. I watched

(47:16):
a YouTube video of two hippies renovating a cow shed. Coincidentally,
they visited the Toasted Sandwich place in Picton. The sandwich
was the best constructed thing in the video text of
the night, Marcus. I find it interesting that avan Dale
and Auckland and Avondale and chroistch that are pronounced differently.
That's right, and point Chevalier is pronounced like that, not

(47:41):
Point Chevalier, Marcus. Toasty Lords are amazing. They even have
a run club It's very popular with the locals. They
used to have a toasty Lord and or Hakooney also
have done pop ups in Willington, Hamilton. The best one
is Pete from Picton Toasty, which is a salmon toasty.
Don't knock it till you try it. Always blow on

(48:02):
the toasty. Check out their socials. Marcus easy On, Tiger,
Blagged and goes Okay, I've been to the suburb known
as Bluff found makes it on a boat once got
locked in the RSA. By time of my life. I
have got a book on Secrets of the Underground, and
I've also got a book about a guy that walked

(48:24):
you'd like this JT. He walked the underground, but above
the underground. Yeah, so they walked all the lines, so
they are beneath them. I remember very little of it.
But there are fake houses because behind them is I

(48:45):
suppose events where the old steam engines would go. They
look like houses, but they're fake houses with railway stuff
behind them. Surprised that's not Secrets of the Underground, Marcus.
There was a long history of the royals having exotic animals,
so maybe that's how elephant and castle are. What I
was reading today was the long history of wealthy aristocratic

(49:09):
women in the nineteenth century having tattoos. It said that
two thirds of women of class in the nineteenth century
were tattooed. No, I've never heard that before. I think
even um, even Churchill's mother was tattooed. So yeah, it

(49:40):
became a huge thing. I think one of the kings
came back from Japan tattooed, and then they all went
and got tattoos. But yeah, I didn't really, I've never
seen any. My skeest they couldn't be follows of them
because photos didn't really exist in those days. But that's
right for a surprise to read that. But yeah, Winston

(50:05):
Churchill's mother. I'm just reading the article here. I kind
of had to read it twice to think that was
even true that two thirds of Anyway, I'll go back
and find the actual quote half past nine tony headlines please.

Speaker 14 (50:22):
Thanks Marcus. So I suppose there's a by appointment to
the royal family tattooists somewhere, Well, yeah, Ill, I.

Speaker 2 (50:27):
Do to know who would have done it, because you
think they would all be sort of run by dodgy
places down by the docks exactly.

Speaker 14 (50:32):
Yeah, it wouldn't wouldn't have been a highly sort of
professional sort of operation in those days, would it?

Speaker 2 (50:38):
And I imagine that'd be just butterflies and quite gentle
kind of things with that. Well, I mean you wouldn't know,
would you.

Speaker 10 (50:43):
I mean, would the queen?

Speaker 14 (50:44):
Would the queen have an an anchor or mum tattooed
on it? Queen mum.

Speaker 2 (50:50):
Or a crown? Exactly kind of surproising, isn't it.

Speaker 12 (50:54):
It is?

Speaker 14 (50:55):
Yeah, Churchill's mum too. Yeah she was American, wasn't she. Yep,
that's right, So maybe that maybe that's the difference that
an American would do that.

Speaker 2 (51:04):
In eighteen ninety seven, The New York World Must Be
a magazine, estimated that three out of four society women
were tattooed.

Speaker 14 (51:13):
You're grief. Well, that is interesting when you look at
tatoos with a complete and different view.

Speaker 2 (51:18):
From now on, we can't look at them because we
even we don't even know what they are anyway. Okay, Marcus,
I live in Hope, Tasman. It's a good name for
a suburb. Marcus. I'm an aspiring sandwich shop owner. I
was looking at purchasing the pict in shop. What kind
of sandwiches. Do you think we need here more of
an are tierroa. I'm thinking like halloomy and a hot

(51:39):
honey or marmite with evocado on top. I think there's
probably something wrong with toasted sanvwiches because you never feel
like that many of them, and these days they're too
cheesy in buttery. The best toasted sandwich I've ever had
was a fish toasted sanvwage Alan peetez in Auckland, very
very good. But that was old school. Just ordered me

(51:59):
ripe bread. These days you've got that sort of irregular
shape bread, so you haven't got much substance inside the
toast did sandwich. I think they've bugging it with what
they've done with it. You need, I reckon with a
toasted sandwich, you need the big because it's always that
kind of a So I have a squat low loaf.
Everything's falling out. It's a dog's breakfast, that's me, though

(52:21):
I feel quite judgmental. Tommy here again, got toasty lords.
On my drive back from any bloody grate, got the
quint tuna and jella peanut with a slice lemon on top.
Surely it's not called the quint, is it.

Speaker 15 (52:34):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (52:34):
By the way, in America, forty thousand kilograms of butter
was recalled because on the side of it didn't have
warning contains milk, it's Costco.

Speaker 12 (52:52):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (52:56):
I don't know people would be allergic to milk. I
think most would know butters full of milk Costco. Butter
just recalled because the label doesn't say it contains milk.
It's butter. Does Costco? And es eat and do butter?

(53:17):
Mett Marcus welcome.

Speaker 7 (53:20):
Oh hi Marcus, it's Max speaking Matt.

Speaker 2 (53:23):
What's up.

Speaker 7 (53:25):
Hey, I've got a story for you about writing elephants,
and you might have to search on the.

Speaker 2 (53:33):
You're just cutting out a little bit, so just if
you can stay still, it'll be great. But yeah, okay,
what I heard is you've got a story about writing
elephants and you said something about you It might have
to search And then I missed what you said next.

Speaker 7 (53:45):
Might have to search for the photo on the web
for this one. So when Colin Meads and stand meads
a king country way back when.

Speaker 6 (53:59):
Circus T. M.

Speaker 7 (54:03):
Borrow, there's three elephants.

Speaker 2 (54:06):
Yeah, hang on, I just I'm getting Are you in
an urban area? Can I get more information from you?
I kind of can't hear what you're saying, unfortunately, are
you driver?

Speaker 7 (54:16):
Yeah, sorry, Marcus from driving.

Speaker 2 (54:19):
That's it's good now. Okay. So you've got Colin Meads
and stand Meads in the circus.

Speaker 4 (54:25):
Year.

Speaker 7 (54:25):
So the circus came to town and think a Witi
with three yep and they asked the circus if they
could borrow the three elephants. And there were three all
blacks in the King Country team at that time. And
there were three all blacks and they had a race
down the main street of Tiquity riding elephants. Yeah, there's

(54:51):
a photo of it if you search deep enough on
the internet.

Speaker 2 (54:56):
I've kind of gone Colin Mead's elephant pretty good Tequity
having three all blacks. He'll be him and his brother
and someone else, no doubt, one of the cousins.

Speaker 7 (55:06):
I can't remember the third one, but yeah, I can
find it. It's just it does take a little bit
to search through the archives of the Worldwide Web.

Speaker 2 (55:19):
Because you think Colin meets elephants would do today.

Speaker 7 (55:24):
Yeah, I'd go Colin Eads stand Meads this race.

Speaker 2 (55:29):
That's really that's exactly That's exactly what I did. So,
so you were in the photo. You were there observing it, right.

Speaker 7 (55:37):
Nah, My my old man was there and I've found
the exact photo on the internet before, but it did
take me some time to search the right Yeah, so
it is a bit hard to find. But there is
an old archive of that photo.

Speaker 2 (55:52):
Okay, I want to go have a look for that.

Speaker 1 (55:53):
Mat.

Speaker 2 (55:53):
I appreciate you, and I appreciate the way you say
archive with It's what I like to do too. You know,
once in a while must annoy people. Well, look for that.
I think someone should. I think there's a great book
to be written about elephants in New Zealand. I don't
know why no one has because they've got so many
great stories of them and they're always digging up old
skeletons and stuff. I'll try and find that photo, so

(56:13):
thank you for that. Although I have gone if I
just do elephant Tika witty because maybe Colin Meads is
not named.

Speaker 9 (56:19):
In this in the.

Speaker 2 (56:25):
No, I'm not finding out so far much have misspelled
Tika witty, which hasn't helped. And for the first time
in a long long time, New Zealand is now elephant free.
Who hasn't got an elephant story? And I think I've
got one. You've got anything to say with elephants to
be nice to hear from you. Because the Auckland Zoo,
the last one has gone. It's going to a place
in Australia out of Adelaide. It's a farm that's going

(56:53):
too and people probably have been there. So if you've
been to this farm, the elephant farm, let's know what
it's like. I took a screenshot of the name. It
is called manato So if you've been to Manato us
know what Manata was like to go and see. I'd
go to see the elephant in Adelaide. We've been to
Adelaide once. Ran into a guy from Queen Mary. Yeah,

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there you go on the street. Hadn't seen him for years.
Long story nine past ten, Roger, it's Marcus. Welcome, good evening.

Speaker 16 (57:27):
Hey you doing Marcus good?

Speaker 2 (57:29):
Thanks Roger. What do you got.

Speaker 16 (57:32):
Just you're doing about toasties?

Speaker 6 (57:34):
And then I am.

Speaker 16 (57:35):
I have one that I like to make. So I
get the toasted bread and put butter on it, but
I put farm on it with beeg truit and onions
and cheese and sometimes an egg.

Speaker 2 (57:54):
And I'm there with the egg.

Speaker 16 (57:57):
Yeah, that's pretty good.

Speaker 2 (58:00):
When you say bread, what bread are you using?

Speaker 16 (58:04):
Oh wow, he's hold me now, I haven't made them
for a while. You bring it up.

Speaker 4 (58:11):
Friday night?

Speaker 5 (58:11):
Friday night?

Speaker 16 (58:12):
Is there at home takeaways?

Speaker 2 (58:14):
So hang on, hang hang on, hang on. I think
they call those fake aways, do they?

Speaker 5 (58:19):
Yeah? Yeah, that's yeah.

Speaker 2 (58:22):
Don't don't say any hound takeaways use the use fake aways. Okay,
fair enough.

Speaker 5 (58:28):
It is.

Speaker 16 (58:29):
I'll do pin coat fish. Yeah, just fish burgers. I'll
call them mc rodgers.

Speaker 2 (58:40):
You see, I've got a lot to say about toasted
savages because when you go to one of these caravan
food trucks for toasted sandwich, right, yeah, they quite often
used what would be an artisan loaf of bread, which
you know, was like a Japat jibebada loaf or something
like that. So you've got a very crusty, thick bread
which is hard, hard to bite through, and there's also

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not much size to it, so you're getting quite a small.

Speaker 4 (59:06):
Yeah.

Speaker 6 (59:06):
No, I don't.

Speaker 16 (59:07):
I don't like that idea whatsoever.

Speaker 12 (59:09):
No, No, all right.

Speaker 16 (59:13):
For lunch today, I had left over burger button, so
I grabbed one, put it on a taster, put some
up on it with cheese, and I got a mustard
crusted beef from the supermarket, and I couldn't believe it.
I've bought it many, many times. It's been great, but

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this this stuff was actually like, it was terrible.

Speaker 17 (59:38):
It was.

Speaker 16 (59:40):
Really disappointed, but for the price that I thought I
was going to use it, so I did, and I
slept it again with a beetroop egg, a bit of
red onion and yeah, lettuce.

Speaker 2 (59:54):
Have you sort of opening up a food truck, Roger?

Speaker 16 (59:58):
I do tend to talk to you a bit about food,
don't because have you ever trying my potato recipe?

Speaker 2 (01:00:05):
Ah?

Speaker 5 (01:00:06):
What was it?

Speaker 12 (01:00:07):
What was it? Again?

Speaker 2 (01:00:08):
I thought you? I thought you brought a gourmet pizza
then brought more stuff for the pizza and doubled it up.

Speaker 16 (01:00:14):
I have done that, Yeah, yeah, yeah, I have done that,
because the ingredients are exactly the same.

Speaker 4 (01:00:20):
As what's the sale?

Speaker 18 (01:00:21):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (01:00:23):
But what's your what's your what's your potato dish?

Speaker 6 (01:00:26):
All right?

Speaker 7 (01:00:27):
Okay?

Speaker 16 (01:00:27):
So it's a baked potato cat with a put of
a fee and it has blue cheese banana in it
and a paprika and then wrapped in to spoil and
baked at the oven.

Speaker 2 (01:00:42):
I've had something quite similar, Roger but nice to talk to.
That's the Roger Rise of people. My name is Marcus
hitdled twelve. Jason, good evening, there you go, good Jason,
thank you. Nice to hear from you.

Speaker 5 (01:00:54):
Yeah, Brand, I'm regarding Nado's Yeah are you?

Speaker 2 (01:00:59):
Are you in Adelaide?

Speaker 11 (01:01:00):
Now?

Speaker 1 (01:01:02):
Na?

Speaker 5 (01:01:02):
Not arm and Cross Church? Okay, so yeah, now I've
been there a couple of times. But yeah, really big,
open sprawling. It's not really as it's like a big farm.
You know, it's great place.

Speaker 2 (01:01:23):
How big would it be.

Speaker 5 (01:01:26):
I'll be saying three hundred hectares but it like you
do a big two around it on a puss and
yeah it's great.

Speaker 2 (01:01:38):
Okay, so obviously the elephant is going to be a
lot happier there. What would there be like ten elephants
or like twenty or how many?

Speaker 5 (01:01:49):
No, I don't remember there being elephants there. Okay, they
had they had like a big I gets called a
pedict with like drafts, deebras sort of these type of animals.
You're finding an African plane somewhere. But yeap, enough big areas,

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you know, they're not like little enclosures.

Speaker 2 (01:02:13):
And yeah, so it's like I ran a bit big
is it like Iran a bit bigger.

Speaker 5 (01:02:19):
Yeah, like Irana, but way bigger.

Speaker 2 (01:02:22):
Okay, Okay. If you're going to Adelaide, would you need
a car to get there orcase? Is there trends? Is
it easy to get to?

Speaker 5 (01:02:34):
I don't know. We had a rento. It's quite a
way out of Adelaide. Like it's like, oh, for memory,
thirty to forty minutes to drive out of Adelaide.

Speaker 2 (01:02:46):
Okay, so he couldn't walk.

Speaker 5 (01:02:49):
No, it's definitely not.

Speaker 2 (01:02:51):
Okay, it's tenays to know. Yeah, okay, did you got
to Did you go to the races today?

Speaker 18 (01:02:59):
No?

Speaker 4 (01:03:00):
Okay?

Speaker 2 (01:03:02):
No dramas on the streets of christich Eve one seems
to be well behaved.

Speaker 8 (01:03:05):
Ah, you know, as much as they can be.

Speaker 2 (01:03:10):
Nice to hear from you, Jason, thank you. I've googled
how many elephants at Monato so I might find out. Oh, good,
good flurry. I'm right about the sandwiches too, aren't I.
It's too crusty, too hard crusts. What you want is
you want the best toasted sandwiches are You're just your
basic takeaway bar. And I'm not saying that the ones
that picked it are no good. They're a bit cagy

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with how many elephants they've got at this line park
in April? We are trumpeting with excitement, pronounced two more
Asian elephants to set to join the herd, peck Boone
and Tangmo from Tarronga and Burma. But it doesn't say
how many there are. There mightn't be any. When I

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do say meet the elephants, I'm all in. There's perme
Age thirty three, there's putramar Age thirty three, there's Boomer,
there's four or five. I think there's five elephants. Doesn't
seen that many, doesn't Glenny? Good evening. It's Marcus, Welcome,
be hi, Marcus.

Speaker 18 (01:04:10):
I've got a photo of my son being wheeled by
Casper the elephant at the Auckland Zoo.

Speaker 2 (01:04:16):
Wow ware did you say wiled?

Speaker 18 (01:04:19):
Yeah, he had kind of strunk around the young the
young pram and wheeling it. And I was my son's
fifty But my mum and I went to the zoo
and the elephant just used to walk around. Casper always
walked around amongst the.

Speaker 2 (01:04:35):
People with a trade with a zoo keeper.

Speaker 18 (01:04:40):
Yeah, he was well behind though you can't see him
in the picture.

Speaker 2 (01:04:47):
And what was like pushing him in the in the pram. Yeah,
it's funny, isn't it.

Speaker 4 (01:04:53):
Wow?

Speaker 18 (01:04:54):
And I mean it looks so big besides us walking
along beside him.

Speaker 2 (01:04:58):
You can think that when I first went to the zoo,
there was sort of towers where you could ride the elephant.
But I don't necessarily know that i'd remember seeing that.
But well, yeah, he used to go for walks, didn't
he with the keepers. Yeah. I don't know what to
say now that we've got no elephants. It kind of
it's kind of seems strange.

Speaker 18 (01:05:17):
It was because they're quite friendly, if they can do
that sort of thing real a prim.

Speaker 2 (01:05:22):
Yeah, but I think they got quite I think they were.
I don't think they liked it on their own. I
think they need to have to be in a whole tribe.
I think once they got kind of all on their own,
it all got a bit depressing for them. I think
because that other one's been away for about seven years.

Speaker 18 (01:05:37):
Oh really, yeah, I think that meant yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:05:41):
Okay, thank you, Lenny, nice to talk. Kim and Marcus welcome.

Speaker 19 (01:05:45):
Oh hi Marcus, how are you good?

Speaker 2 (01:05:47):
Thank you?

Speaker 12 (01:05:47):
Kim? That's good.

Speaker 10 (01:05:49):
I'd just like to speak.

Speaker 19 (01:05:50):
About Burma.

Speaker 5 (01:05:53):
Now.

Speaker 19 (01:05:53):
I actually went to the zoo oh within the last month,
and I was chilled and delighted to actually see the
main keeper with Burma going for a wash and this
and that and the other. And I couldn't help myself
and I sort of said, excuse me, and anyway, got

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to speak to the main keeper, and he has looked
after her, if I'm correct, for the last fourteen years.

Speaker 4 (01:06:25):
Wow.

Speaker 19 (01:06:26):
And when the last elephant that you were just talking
about left the zoo, he actually used to sleep with
Burma because yes, as you said that, I definitely heard animals,
and just to keep her feeling safe and have her

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own herd, so to speak. What I was absolutely thrilled
about was so he of course is with her, but
he is actually relocating to Adelaide to live with she
and the herd. So he's going to be looking after that,

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be the main keeper for the herd moving forward. And
I just thought that was really quite.

Speaker 2 (01:07:16):
Ex Yeah, because I don't because I remember in this
job a number of years ago, it looked like New
Zealand was going to get six elephants, They're going to
build a whole herd themselves, and it was going to expand,
and they had that new elephant that was been quarantined
in Neway, Ireland. But they must have changed I think
that was Angelie, but I think they must have changed

(01:07:36):
their mind and actually decided not to go ahead with
any of it. So I don't fully remember the decisions
around that, but I think they've done.

Speaker 19 (01:07:44):
The right thing, oh, completely and utterly. I just think
it's wonderful that she's going to have a family, yeah,
and her very own mate, which you know, they're inextricably
you know connected, you mean we the keeper, yes, yeah, yeah,

(01:08:05):
So he may had a very big decision to do that,
but I just really thought that was incredible.

Speaker 2 (01:08:13):
And I kind of don't know what happens because I'm
just reading the website about that place in Australia. They've
got a breeding program there, but I wouldn't imagine that
the animals from the breeding program can go back into
the wild. So slightly sketchy about that, because there'd be
no point in breeding elephants, would there if you can't.
I mean, they just to make people go to your park.

Speaker 19 (01:08:35):
Aren't they, Well, I would suggest, I mean you know
that really today is what zoos are all about, aren't they?

Speaker 2 (01:08:45):
Well, they say it's about They say it's about conteent,
but I sometimes think they overegged that because I don't
necessarily know that that that animals could ever go from
a zoo back into the wild and whatever skills.

Speaker 19 (01:08:58):
Yeah, well there's that too. Yeah, well you've got to live.

Speaker 13 (01:09:04):
In Hope.

Speaker 2 (01:09:06):
Absolutely and look. Yeah, well nice to sit here from
your chm anyway, so I appreciate you coming through. We'll
talk more about elephants. I think the Aucklands. But yes,
I think it was when John Bnks was me. They
only get six elephants, it is going to be heard
of them, and well I kind of measure John Banks
would be there because he's sort of he's anti cruelty

(01:09:27):
to animals. So I don't know what's going on there,
but there was a big focus. They're going to have
six animals. It's going to be like a Serengetti plane
type thing, and they're going to take over some areas
at Western Springs. But they must have changed their mind
with that due to protests or something. It's no longer
a thing. Yeah, here we go, I'm singing out. Wildlife

(01:09:54):
experts planned to stop zoo going ahead with the elephant plan.
Some of them This is from twenty ten. Some of
the most powerful voices in world wildlife, Fair Welfare of
Better together with leading zoo professionals to stop Auckland Zoo
forming a herd of elephants living in inner city Western
Springs Park. They also want the zoo's one remaining elephant, Burmer,

(01:10:17):
send Overseas to live with other elephants in an open
range zoo or century. So yes, all the head biscuits
from all the animal cruelty people got in touch. They've
asked the new council to reconsider the defunct Aukland City
council decision to allow the zoo to expand into Western

(01:10:38):
Springs and buy more Asian elephants. They want to have
ten elephants at Western Springs, so they changed their mind.
And I think they already ordered the one from Shri Lanka,
which was the one that was been quarantined in Nuway,
So yes, that was it would have been good. But
we're good fund to do something at Western Springs compete

(01:10:59):
with all those ducks. But I think we've done the
right thing there. And then there was Angelie, the elephant
that they'd brought or got gift from Sri Lanka. And
funny enough that went to Niwa to quarantine, which always
thought was a strange thing to have done. They would
have had an airtrip big enough to land the plane
just before you go, Tony, this is your last bulletin.

Speaker 14 (01:11:20):
It's the last. Yes, I think it probably is, Fay.

Speaker 2 (01:11:23):
How does that feel all right?

Speaker 12 (01:11:26):
Yeah?

Speaker 6 (01:11:26):
It does.

Speaker 14 (01:11:26):
Yet it's drifting into the semi retirement. I'd probably be
popping up here and there for filling in for sick
days and things like that, as we tend to do
in our aged years.

Speaker 2 (01:11:36):
Well, I like that story you said in the last
hour about in your retirement to keep your social contacts
going exactly.

Speaker 14 (01:11:42):
Yes, yes, we don't want to indulge in that the
I'd like to be Minister for Loneliness though, would what
does that mean? I could find an office somewhere down
the back way, away from everyone.

Speaker 2 (01:11:50):
What I've enjoyed about you is your very few details
you've given about yourself. The working at the post office,
the working in London and playing football for which team?
That meant something to some people.

Speaker 14 (01:12:01):
It's the reading FC President's eleven.

Speaker 2 (01:12:04):
Your joys of Peter Frampton.

Speaker 14 (01:12:06):
Oh, yes, Frampton comes alover. They issued you with a
copy if you were born in the.

Speaker 2 (01:12:10):
Seventh Yes, your joys of your greyhound dogs yep, the
two yep. And there was something else that I was
going to mention that I thought that you've given me
great insight. And two probably something probably who was the
person that will you went to? You interviewed someone drunk? Yeah, McJagger,
that's right, you mcjagg. Have I got that all your

(01:12:32):
basic stories?

Speaker 14 (01:12:32):
That sounds good. That's my backstory in one.

Speaker 2 (01:12:34):
That's your back How often are you coming back into it?

Speaker 14 (01:12:37):
Well, I've got some shifts just before Christmas twenty third,
twenty fourth of December, so I'll pop up for those
and just as and when i'm required to turn up
or needed.

Speaker 2 (01:12:47):
Which is a classic broadcasting way of getting out, is
it They get you out, then you get back out.

Speaker 18 (01:12:50):
Yeah.

Speaker 11 (01:12:50):
Yeah.

Speaker 14 (01:12:50):
It's like it's like the Elton John retirement, isn't it?

Speaker 2 (01:12:54):
Yeah? It never ends. Okay, Well go well, Tony, thanks
you so much for that. Yeah, nice to say. Yeah, Okay,
twenty eight away from eleven o'clock, eight hundred and eighty
ten eighty, so that's Tony. Tony's gone, but he'll be back,
so there will be a new news reader at night.
And you'll find out more about that soon. And I
don't know how old Tony is, but he certainly would
be probably, it's not like he's not retiring prematurely. He

(01:13:15):
would be well of retirement age, I would say, if
not exactly at retirement age. So there we go. So
that's happened. But Tony's no nonsense, and that's the way
we will do that one Philips Marcus, Welcome, good evening.

Speaker 15 (01:13:32):
Oh good even just talking about biscuits and elephants. Yeah,
there's one word. One name that I think should be
mentioned is a joining word is All's books. Yes, years ago,
they used to make animal biscuits. Yes, and I'm pretty

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certain one of them was an elephant.

Speaker 2 (01:13:56):
Well, it's a very good point, and I know because
the guys rung a guy's texted before that made them
really But what he did say is all the flavors
were the aim.

Speaker 15 (01:14:08):
I quite believe that there were different colors they oh,
I can't remember now.

Speaker 2 (01:14:13):
And they looked at it, and they looked at it
and determine it because they looked just like McNuggets. They
were looking at the pack. I think there was an elephant,
a bear, a camel, a hippo, a frog or horse,
and a lion. Will that be right?

Speaker 15 (01:14:30):
That sounds pretty right to me.

Speaker 2 (01:14:32):
And they weren't they weren't to scale, No, they weren't.

Speaker 15 (01:14:39):
But it was it was great when you were a youngster.
It was you know, you've had on your lunch box
perhaps or or whatever the case may be. And just
a few a few moments more. When it comes to biscuits,
in my experience, the only thing you need to know

(01:15:02):
about biscuits is to remember what draw you put Edmund's
query booker.

Speaker 2 (01:15:09):
And now this, this might surprise you, is because one
summer I made every biscuit in that Edmund's baking there
was one that didn't work. There was one I had
trouble with. I didn't mention I didn't measure the golden
syrup out properly. No, it wasn't. It was it was

(01:15:36):
it had cheers and it was quite a flat biscuit.
Now I can tell you what it was, because this
is of interest to me. And it was like it
was called something like And I'll tell you how I
found out I cooked it wrong. Because we've got you
know that woman that you know, that woman Emma that

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does the community notices.

Speaker 15 (01:16:01):
I saw the name.

Speaker 2 (01:16:02):
She's a very good baker. And she put me right.
She said it was because you didn't wrinch, you didn't
mention out, you didn't measure out the golden syrup properly.
And she's right, because I was a bit slack with that.
I'll tell you the one biscuit there, and it was
it's a flat biscuit with cherries and stuff. And well,

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that's going to drive me crazy if I can't see that.

Speaker 15 (01:16:27):
Well later on when I when when we finished chatting.

Speaker 2 (01:16:30):
And have you got your have you got your book there?

Speaker 15 (01:16:34):
I'll find it shortly when I finished looking at these screens.
And because I usually care.

Speaker 2 (01:16:43):
It's not online. If you've got the book there, okay,
I read it out to me, read out the different biscuits.

Speaker 15 (01:16:53):
One moment, sir, I'll just have to.

Speaker 4 (01:16:57):
Goodness, my glasses, my glasses here.

Speaker 11 (01:17:03):
It's it's like I.

Speaker 2 (01:17:05):
Want to say galateer or something. But it wasn't that.

Speaker 11 (01:17:11):
Just one moment.

Speaker 2 (01:17:13):
I just you know, you're don't you're doing very well.

Speaker 15 (01:17:17):
I just popped the phone where I can, and I'll
have a lot here in the in the index. I
suppose if you look under biscuits is the best place
to start.

Speaker 2 (01:17:29):
I think that's what I imagined.

Speaker 15 (01:17:32):
I would think so. And you can't get it online.

Speaker 8 (01:17:34):
That's isn't it terrible?

Speaker 2 (01:17:38):
Well, I think it's owned by the Singaporeans. Now they've
got no I'll tell you what I think. I know
what it is. Yep, it was the Florentine. I'm pretty
sure what that. I'm pretty sure that's what it was.

Speaker 12 (01:17:52):
That that is.

Speaker 15 (01:17:54):
Is bringing ringing bells rather Yep. Yeah, Florentine. Yeah, and
I've had cheries setting something.

Speaker 2 (01:18:06):
Else and golden syrup.

Speaker 15 (01:18:08):
I didn't realize. I didn't realize it had golden syrup.
I thought the only one that would have had golden
syrup was your classic Hopey pokey biscuit.

Speaker 2 (01:18:16):
But I think that was there.

Speaker 15 (01:18:19):
Well, I'm still sort of having a searcher. But your
Florentines that was the one.

Speaker 2 (01:18:25):
Is it in there?

Speaker 15 (01:18:27):
I'm just having a lot right now. It's on page
number thirty seven.

Speaker 2 (01:18:31):
Yeah, that's a thirty seven. There were prime number that
was a waterloo.

Speaker 15 (01:18:37):
And I'm having a look down here and there, I'm
getting here to hopy Pogy. We're getting to oh kiss
us yet? Remember then?

Speaker 2 (01:18:47):
Yeah, they were good. They were delicious, Although all the
others were fantastic, that was the one that did me in.
They didn't work there in edible.

Speaker 15 (01:18:56):
Now I can't. I can't see it here in this
I'm listed as it, but I know what you mean.
But it may maybe I've got a very old book.
It might have been called something else.

Speaker 2 (01:19:06):
Then I'll do some more research for it. I'm almost
positive it was that. Yeah, someone said nutty golden cookies
page forty two of the Evans cookbook. Have you got
that there for Phil? Can you read on every biscuit?
Because now I'm not sure.

Speaker 15 (01:19:24):
Let's get a page forty first where that mentioned the Florentines. Yeah, Florentines,
but have softened sugar golden sirup.

Speaker 2 (01:19:36):
Yeah it was the flor So the Florentine is there.

Speaker 15 (01:19:39):
But it's definitely there, and it's on page forty.

Speaker 2 (01:19:42):
Yeah, that was my waterloof fell. Thank you. It's been
a good show for me tonight to find that out.
Thank you. Seventeen to eleven, I have googled how many
different animal biscuits there were. It won't say anywhere. What's
wrong with the internet need editing. I'm now on strange
websites about biscuits and the comments aren't good. But I

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think yeah, I don't know how many different ones they were.
I think probably seven. Stan Reckins says eight. Is it
from that? Is that from the packet? Is it just
looking at the shapes on the packet?

Speaker 5 (01:20:18):
Oh?

Speaker 2 (01:20:19):
They've named them on the pecket?

Speaker 4 (01:20:20):
Have they?

Speaker 2 (01:20:20):
Have you sent me an email through? I haven't quite
got it yet, Dan, he said, Oh, here we go. No,
that's a different I reckon that's a different one though.
That might be a British one. That's not the same
as the New Zealand ones. Yeah, but no, I think
there are alls of Brooks, not Arnot's. Get in touch
Marcus till twelve. The number is eight hundred and eighty

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ten eighty. Charlotte is emailed Marcus has quite. I was
quite sad to hear that tonight was Tony's last night
as the evening news reader. I have always loved how
he had started as eight pm news Bulleton and Moldy.
That really meant a lot to me. Love your show, Charlotte.
Nice to hear from me, Charlotte, thank you. And a
few other emails coming through a bit like that also too,
so a lot, saying Florentine biscuit. Also, you're right, y'are right,

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you're right blue them anyway, permits Marcus welcome clip Pam.

Speaker 18 (01:21:08):
Yeah.

Speaker 17 (01:21:09):
I tasted a biscuit the other day because I can
never get a proper biscuit that used to be like
it was of the old. So I came across a
Missus Higgins biscuit and I think they made an orchards
and it was delicious, really, and it had raisins and

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all sorts of it was beautiful and you could taste
the butter.

Speaker 2 (01:21:37):
Yeah, well I think that's what I think. The biscuits
got no butter and that's what it's all palm cun
and it's terrible.

Speaker 6 (01:21:43):
I hate that.

Speaker 11 (01:21:45):
Yeah, me too.

Speaker 2 (01:21:46):
It was the biscuit, was it with the raisin? Was
a triple chocolate?

Speaker 6 (01:21:50):
Was it?

Speaker 2 (01:21:50):
Missus Higgins insac cookie?

Speaker 5 (01:21:52):
Was it?

Speaker 2 (01:21:52):
I can't for fruity inzac that'd be you wouldn't it.

Speaker 6 (01:21:55):
It's a sort of.

Speaker 17 (01:21:56):
An Anzaci biscuit. But it's had nice big raisins and
you know, good pieces of raisin.

Speaker 2 (01:22:06):
I think there'd be a fruity.

Speaker 7 (01:22:09):
Has a.

Speaker 17 (01:22:11):
Like that, but they do, but make their make their
but yeah, I.

Speaker 2 (01:22:19):
Think they'd be Mike, just to guess. The think could
be a fruity inzac. I don't know, because you've gotta
be careful what you call an enzac. You can't call
it a cookie. It's got to be a biscuit. It's
all the ris a, all over, the insick biscuits. Oh
feels like midnight, don't it. Twelve to eleven Marcus. Currently
there are eight different animals in the art at iced Animals, lion, sheep, pigs, dogs, rabbits, elephant,

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polar bear, hippos, four dollars of box Susie Marcus. Are
candy apples making a comeback. I've seen them at the
weekend markets three times in the last month. I hope not,
because all the toffee manages to do is make the
apple taste hour. You're better off having a kind of
a salt anyway, Chris.

Speaker 4 (01:23:02):
You know.

Speaker 13 (01:23:05):
I think he will that.

Speaker 10 (01:23:06):
I thought I was called fruit fingers.

Speaker 2 (01:23:10):
What did you think with fruit fangle?

Speaker 10 (01:23:13):
Did like a rectangle thing?

Speaker 2 (01:23:16):
Hang on, hang on, hang on. The fruit finger was
a good biscuit. They've got rid of it.

Speaker 13 (01:23:22):
Yeah, I love those things.

Speaker 2 (01:23:24):
Oh no, the one they've got rid of rid of
was the one full of fruit is the one that
was like two sandwiches, remember that one? Well they called
them fly symmetries, but that's not what I call them.

Speaker 13 (01:23:34):
The interesting point I was going to make actually when
I rang up was probably the most one of the
most famous court cases in the world.

Speaker 4 (01:23:46):
Was over Jeffe Cakes.

Speaker 13 (01:23:48):
Really, do you know jeff cakes there in England?

Speaker 2 (01:23:53):
No, I'm sure I'm going to find out a lot
about them.

Speaker 13 (01:23:56):
Basically, there was a case brought up that basically I
think it was over.

Speaker 2 (01:24:02):
Taxed vat both both cake and biscuit.

Speaker 5 (01:24:06):
Was it?

Speaker 13 (01:24:07):
Yeah, it was a is it a cake or is
it a biscuit? And they ended up winning to make
it a biscuit purely only because cakes go I can't
remember which way around it goes, but biscuits go hard,
cakes go soft.

Speaker 2 (01:24:26):
It might be the other way around over time.

Speaker 13 (01:24:29):
Yeah, wow, so when you if you leave them out,
one goes soft, one goes hard. And they just won
it over that.

Speaker 2 (01:24:39):
Wow.

Speaker 13 (01:24:39):
It was like a multimillion lawsuit. It was really funny,
but it was all over tax and so.

Speaker 2 (01:24:45):
Yeah, you've got for a good recall. The product hardens
when style in the manner of a cake.

Speaker 13 (01:24:53):
Yeah, that's the one where the other one goes soft
and horrible?

Speaker 2 (01:25:01):
Is it a good biscuit of the Jeffer cake? Really nice, brilliant,
great conclusion there, call, that's what you want to come through,
strong and elephants. We are now elephant free. And it's
with mixed feelings for me about that, because there's such
extraordinary animals. Be my favorite animal by a country mile,
the elephant. Don't know why? Let me think about that.

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Why do I like them? I can't think? But an
actually I prefer the African ones?

Speaker 9 (01:25:29):
Do I?

Speaker 2 (01:25:30):
Can you say that? Are there only two types of elephants?
Of course the African one is the largest land mammal,
isn't it? Would that be right? I think so? The
only mammal that can't jump. Did you know that the

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only animal that can't jump? There aren't many left. There's
fifty thousand Asian ones. I'm not quite sure how the
African ones would be left anyway. They can swim good

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evening pecks. It's Marcus.

Speaker 12 (01:26:13):
Welcome, Hey, Marcus. I had a couple of stories about elephants,
and the first one is the mayoral candidates were Upper
Hut had a race on elephants up the main street
when I was a young fella.

Speaker 2 (01:26:27):
What a great story.

Speaker 12 (01:26:28):
I mean, must have been about nineteen fifty nine, was
sixty and I think there was five elephants involved and
two people from the Acatara Valley were riding them. One
was Arthur Custon who was a well known chap and
another one was Bill Downs. And neither of them become

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the mayor, but I remember it well. They come up
from Royal Street and Upper Hut south heading north to
the Provincial Hotel was the finish line.

Speaker 2 (01:27:04):
It seemed to be with the promotion for su says
any publicity stunt they're up for.

Speaker 12 (01:27:11):
Yeah. And when I lived in Akadahoona and they used
to have the elephant at the rugby grounds, always used
to take up a couple of bales hey for the elephant.

Speaker 2 (01:27:22):
Hang on when was this?

Speaker 12 (01:27:26):
That would have been about eighty three, eighty four eighty six.
I always took bales for the elephant. And also I
had a ride on the elephant as a young fella
in the Wellington Zoo. Didn't like it, but Smelly.

Speaker 4 (01:27:43):
Preferred.

Speaker 12 (01:27:45):
And the other one was just before Jumbo left New
Zealand they stopped and mastered. And I took a photograph
of an old friend of mine standing next to him.

Speaker 2 (01:27:57):
So where was he from? Jumbo? Was here? Wellington one?

Speaker 12 (01:28:01):
It was a circus one, Okay, circus. I had another name,
but I think that the crowd just called it John.

Speaker 2 (01:28:08):
Yeah, of course, you always good. It seems long ago.
It seems though from a quick Google, that the race
with the mural candidates was to raise money for the
pools they were building at Maidstone?

Speaker 5 (01:28:21):
Is that is that?

Speaker 2 (01:28:22):
Does that share with what your your information of it?
Would that.

Speaker 12 (01:28:27):
Seven years old?

Speaker 2 (01:28:28):
You wouldn't know, would you? You wouldn't know what it
was for. It's amazing.

Speaker 12 (01:28:32):
But you know, I can remember please getting down lost
the elephant. They had had his bowler hat on. You
know these old He was an old soul biller and
and I could write a book about him.

Speaker 2 (01:28:45):
Yeah, that's a good story. You what do to the
roads running up the main street? Were they actually running.

Speaker 4 (01:28:53):
There?

Speaker 12 (01:28:53):
Walking? Class? Put it that way. I had their keepers
there with the hooks pulling them up by the truck.

Speaker 2 (01:29:02):
The riders were Monsieur's Chic down Sterling Ross, Tarzan Tickner,
Arthur Bowler had clusteron. You're quite right, and just in deframe.
The ZB announcer was there as well, that's what I
should should do. The z BE announcers. Now get them
out and about to do elephant racing. You could get
the one out of the studio these days. It's a

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great story.

Speaker 12 (01:29:26):
And how many elephants were in that race.

Speaker 2 (01:29:28):
Then it's a really good question.

Speaker 12 (01:29:31):
I can definitely remember three.

Speaker 2 (01:29:33):
There's certainly four, and there might be five. The writers
were chaked down Sterling one, two, three, four. They're giving
them names like Sterling, like Sterling Moss and Sterling Ross.
Say Shakedowns. That was funny, Sterling Ross, Tarzan Tickner, Arthur Cluster.
Just so the five les tikna one that was Tickner.

Speaker 12 (01:29:58):
He won?

Speaker 2 (01:29:58):
Yeah, who was he?

Speaker 12 (01:30:03):
Oh, couldn't know. Well, I knew the Cluston and Carry
had done a bit of work for him later online.

Speaker 2 (01:30:10):
Didn't even appear to have saddled or anything.

Speaker 12 (01:30:13):
No, no saddle. So they were sitting behind their ears.
You things like that today.

Speaker 2 (01:30:22):
Had fall off, you'd fall off, you'd beg your head.

Speaker 12 (01:30:26):
It's a long way up from an elephant, A long
way down, I should say.

Speaker 2 (01:30:31):
And there's thousands of kids everywhere because would be the
most exciting they ever happened up a heart, don't imagine.

Speaker 12 (01:30:37):
Oh, there's a big crowd there. I remember it. Yeah,
nice to hear from you yesterday.

Speaker 2 (01:30:42):
Yeah, good on your pecks. It's a good story. Well,
thanks for your recall having Paul ats Marcus welcome.

Speaker 20 (01:30:47):
Hey mate, here are you going good?

Speaker 2 (01:30:49):
Paul?

Speaker 20 (01:30:50):
Do you remember the TV ad?

Speaker 4 (01:30:53):
Was it super good?

Speaker 2 (01:30:55):
Yes? Yes? Yes, one drop holds in time?

Speaker 5 (01:30:58):
Yes?

Speaker 20 (01:30:59):
Now what was the elephant that they had in the year?

Speaker 16 (01:31:02):
Look it was done that year?

Speaker 18 (01:31:04):
It was?

Speaker 4 (01:31:04):
Was it?

Speaker 5 (01:31:05):
Ye?

Speaker 2 (01:31:08):
I reckon that the elephants were pumped out for anything.
They're always being used for like car heads or all
sorts of stuff.

Speaker 20 (01:31:18):
But it was like the elephant that was listed in
the air that would have had so many supports around it.
I just wonder what the name of the elstant was.

Speaker 2 (01:31:27):
Well, it always see me kesh and Keshen was the
elephant that was around forever. Yeah, I'm looking at the
commercial now, I can't recognize my elephants from them because
kesh was always because Keshon are you are you from
Auckland Pool? Yes, because of course if you you had

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school banking at the ASP and that was always Keshon
was you get kesh and money boxes and stuff because
there was always I presume ASB paid for the elephant.

Speaker 12 (01:31:58):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:32:00):
I'm just trying to watch the ad with the elephant,
but I can't see it.

Speaker 8 (01:32:03):
But anyway, right, and.

Speaker 20 (01:32:07):
One final thing before I go. My mother, her great
granddads was an elephant keeper at Wellington Zoo, so.

Speaker 11 (01:32:20):
That were.

Speaker 20 (01:32:23):
And she was late eighties when she died, so that
must have been the early late ninete eighteen hundreds.

Speaker 2 (01:32:35):
He was the elephant keeper bay big job.

Speaker 20 (01:32:39):
Well, I don't know how many elephants were there.

Speaker 2 (01:32:45):
Oh, I think Wellington had two. Do they have that
a big kind of a big concrete poured cage, did they?

Speaker 20 (01:32:51):
Yes? Mum said she can remember going and seeing you
know where he worked. And I was like, oh okay,
I said, was Ata's job and she said, yes, job,

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it's a boy.

Speaker 8 (01:33:12):
It didn't really mean.

Speaker 2 (01:33:15):
Well, I'm sure there's not much, but I mean I
don't know. Yeah, I don't know what it'd be to
be an elephant keeper. I mean you just kind of
got a pointed stick and you've got to take them
walking and give them a poke when they hear. I
don't know what happened with them yeah, I know.

Speaker 20 (01:33:29):
Nice talking to you, Marcus.

Speaker 2 (01:33:30):
Thank you, Thank you, Paul. Nice talk to you too.
Good evening, Gillett's Marcus, welcome.

Speaker 21 (01:33:36):
Hi Marcus. The elephant that you that you're talking about.
They had a race down the main street of Meadow
Matter in.

Speaker 2 (01:33:43):
The country town familiar with.

Speaker 21 (01:33:46):
There were three elephants in that and they were the
riders were the jay Seeds, Road Tree and the Lions Club.

Speaker 2 (01:33:59):
Well great, great, Now all the clubs.

Speaker 21 (01:34:02):
The ones from the Rotary Club had proper riding track.
The Indian who was for the diocese was in silks
and so was the Lions member. And when the race
had finished, the two that had silks on had terrible

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rashes where the hair from the elephants had scratched the
skin because their skin is very very solid and thick,
and the whole of matter matter. All the streets were busy,
people were up on the roofs and there were people

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on the streets everywhere.

Speaker 2 (01:34:48):
Now, what year would this have been.

Speaker 21 (01:34:50):
That would have been about at the time that you're
talking about the elephants coming through for the rugby players
who were talking about earlier. Yes, they must have been
doing a trip around the country because they were in
town and that to say it was about that about

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then in the fifties, it was because.

Speaker 2 (01:35:15):
I can't find an image for that straightaway unfortunately, and
but it must there must be something there about that.
But that's amazing. Who are yeah, okay, Well, as I.

Speaker 21 (01:35:26):
Say, they had to draw straw they draw straws out
of who was going to go, and they said they
were the three, the three people. But the worst part was,
as I say, wearing silks. The skin on the elephant
was quite hard and there was no padding. There was
no sheepskins, no nothing. They were there up against the skin.

Speaker 2 (01:35:48):
I even see they've had an elephant race in the
streets of Hoannganui as well, So it must and that
was a nineteen sixty three. They must have been going
everywhere around the country.

Speaker 21 (01:35:55):
That would be absolutely right. Yeah, it was about then.
And as a say, there were people on the verandahs
in Matamta, they were up on the street roofs. And
when the elephants finished at the other end, the kids
and that would have been about oh an arms link
us away from these things, and how nobody got squashed

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at the end of the day. One would never know.

Speaker 2 (01:36:20):
There was even a race for elephants at Papa Nui
shopping center in christ Church for intellectually disabled children raising
money for their wet wasting.

Speaker 21 (01:36:29):
But yeah, yes, so I think they must have been
doing a circuit at the time when they came through
New Zealand.

Speaker 2 (01:36:36):
Fantastic. You'll love you to hear from you. Hello, Mike,
it's Marcus. Welcome.

Speaker 6 (01:36:42):
Yeah, I'm hi Marcus. I just would like to talk
about the Auckland Zoo elephants if.

Speaker 2 (01:36:46):
I could thank you.

Speaker 6 (01:36:48):
Yeah. I used to work in the elephant house at
Auckland z for three or four years wow. And we
had great fun with the when we used to take
them out for walks three or four times a day.
And I remember this one Saturday and very hot day.
We took the round to the band road under and
front of the keeper's area is a bit of a

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hard casey walk to this group of people they have
a picnic, and lady had a cup of tea in
her hand. You know, she's headed to the side, and
he snuck the elephant as close as he could to her,
and she was holding the tea in one hand and
looking the other way, talking to someone and cash and drunk.
The whole cup of tea, he told her to. She

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drunk the whole cup of tea, and when the lady
turned around, you would lift up the cup and drink
the tea. She wondered why there's nothing in it, because
when elephants are walking, you can't hear them coming. Their
feet are padded, very soft feet, and you can't hear
them if they're walking on concrete.

Speaker 2 (01:37:46):
What year was that that you were there?

Speaker 6 (01:37:49):
Just before Cashon died, Not long before she died, it's
about two thousand and seven or eight. I think I
was the end. She died in two thousand and nine, and.

Speaker 2 (01:37:58):
She's buried there, isn't she Yeah?

Speaker 6 (01:38:01):
Yeah, you know the old entrance to the zoo, right
in the very top of the years ago or something. Yeah, yeah,
right at the back of the zoo with the l
with the Do you know the rainforest at the zoo?

Speaker 2 (01:38:15):
Yes, yeah, I do know where it's up to that
road that comes along almost there at the top roads
you come into Western Springs. Is it top entrant?

Speaker 5 (01:38:24):
Yeah?

Speaker 6 (01:38:25):
Yeah, that's where the entrance used to be. When I
was a kid, you had to walk down a huge
hair well. Cacash is buried about halfway up that hell,
but it's not for the public, you know, it's out
of bounds. You have to sort of get permission over there. Yeah, yeah,
I remember that. And I'm in two minds too about
Burma sort of leaving Auckland Zoo. Yes, she came to

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Kland Zoo as a rescue elephant from a logging camp
and me and mar and she wasn't treated very well there,
and she was very traumatized when she came to on
Zoo because when they used to get her to do
things in the lobbing camp, they didn't talk to her anything.
You used to jabble with a knife. And she had
lots of scars all over a body when she came.
And it took her a long time to sort of

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settle into Auckland Zoo. And that's why I was just wondering.
You know, she spent the last thirty four years here,
and as far as I'm concerned, she was happy. I
know they have to and I know they're doing it
for her own good, but I'm just sort of got
so attached to her, you know.

Speaker 2 (01:39:27):
Yeah, had you had you seen her at all recently,
had you gone and know it knew she was going
to go away.

Speaker 6 (01:39:33):
No, I couldn't. I would have been too upset. It
was bad enough. Wing.

Speaker 2 (01:39:36):
Well, okay, you're really okay, yes, yeah.

Speaker 6 (01:39:38):
Ok yeah, really into this. And oh yeah, by the
way too. Angelika was at Aukland Zoo for a while.

Speaker 2 (01:39:44):
Yes, so she was she that arranged for her to
come when they're going to get a whole ten elephants.
But then they decided that she had because she's still
at breeding age.

Speaker 6 (01:39:54):
I think, yeah, and Burmer's not.

Speaker 2 (01:39:57):
Yeah, Boomer's Boemer is beyond middle age.

Speaker 6 (01:40:00):
I think, yeah, she's forty two. Burmer now that that's
roughly middle a. We're just just under middle age for
an elephant. There is an elephant i've heard that lived
to eighty two years old, okay, in a zoo somewhere,
and I can't remember it was Asia or somewhere, it
was eighty two years old. So they can live to
the same majors humans, Yeah, usually in their sixties though

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they sort of.

Speaker 2 (01:40:27):
Yeah, Keshen was there. Keshen joined the zoo nineteen seventy three,
and Boomer arrived in nineteen nineteen. Keshen died in two
thousand and nine, and seventeen thousand visitors fair world here.

Speaker 6 (01:40:40):
Yeah, yeah, I was there. I remember that. Yeah, it
was very very emotional day, that one.

Speaker 2 (01:40:46):
Because I remember at the Auckland Zoo, right, there was
originally a tower where you'd go up to get on
top of the elephant to ride them. Is that correct?

Speaker 6 (01:40:57):
Yeah, that was a band rot under Okay.

Speaker 12 (01:41:00):
Yeah.

Speaker 6 (01:41:00):
I used to get up there and they used to
take say like ten kids at once, five on each side.
They had a big like a harness on here, yeah
or whatever it is, you know.

Speaker 2 (01:41:10):
It says Jamuna was the first elephant, right, and there
was three quarter of a million people had written on her.
And then they got another right, then they got another
elephant called.

Speaker 6 (01:41:24):
Raja.

Speaker 2 (01:41:26):
No, they got another elephant called Raja. Correct.

Speaker 6 (01:41:29):
Yeah, he was a male elephant and he had to
be shot. They had to put him down.

Speaker 2 (01:41:33):
He was disagreeable. I shot him and they put him
the museum.

Speaker 17 (01:41:36):
Yeah.

Speaker 6 (01:41:37):
Yeah, yeah, a lot of these people used to think
that elephant in the museum was Jamuna.

Speaker 2 (01:41:41):
It was Raja, yeah, but Jamuna.

Speaker 6 (01:41:43):
That's why they never ever got another male elephant again,
just too they're just too aggressive. They haven't got the
facilities here to handle them.

Speaker 7 (01:41:52):
And also well.

Speaker 2 (01:41:53):
Also and also said the nineteen fifty four, Jamuna swung
its trunk and a sixty five year old keeper was killed.

Speaker 6 (01:42:02):
Yeah, but she didn't actually swing at and then he
was just in the wrong place him and he got
smashed up against the wall and he died instantly. They
were going to put her down too, but apparently there's
a big inquiry the council and that, and they decided
not to. There was just an accident.

Speaker 2 (01:42:19):
Of course, you know a lot. Did you happen to
Did you happen to go and get that job because
you were so into elephant until you became an elephant
since you had the job.

Speaker 6 (01:42:28):
No, No, I was actually a volunteer. But you have
to learn the history of the zoo. If you want
to be a volunteer, you have to know what happened
from day one.

Speaker 12 (01:42:35):
Yep.

Speaker 6 (01:42:37):
Yeah, that's how I learned all that stuff. Yeah. Yeah,
I actually remember going on Jamun and myself when I
was a child, because I'm in my seventies now.

Speaker 2 (01:42:45):
Oh okay, do you sound younger than that.

Speaker 6 (01:42:46):
Okay, I've got a cold, that's why, yeah, ok yeah, yeah,
So yeah, I don't think we'll ever see another elephant
in New Zealand again.

Speaker 2 (01:42:57):
No, no, and That's probably the right thing, isn't it,
Because at least they're not been what I appreciate. I
was going to say, they're not probably used for loggings,
but they probably are used on work places. Elephants in Asia, are.

Speaker 6 (01:43:07):
They Oh yeah, definitely differently and then especially in India
and Me and marn places like that. Yeah, they still
have them in the logging camps, but now they looked
after properly. They made sure they are you know, Boomer
Boomer wasn't she had a heart or she was really
traumatized when she came and they reckon. That's why Burma
was very small for an elephant as well, even though

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she was an Asian elephant, she wasn't as big as
she was because she wasn't getting fed properly. Okay, And
I think they rescued her when she was about eight.
I think she used eight years old when she came
to Aukland Zoo that I remember. It took a long
long time for her to settle in.

Speaker 7 (01:43:47):
Well.

Speaker 6 (01:43:47):
And another thing why I don't think they'll get any
more zoo elephants is the cost. Do you realize they
eat two hundred cages of food today each elephant they.

Speaker 2 (01:43:57):
Had no idea, and that's just how is it?

Speaker 7 (01:43:59):
Straw?

Speaker 2 (01:44:00):
Is that what it is?

Speaker 6 (01:44:01):
Oh? All sorts, you know, vegetables. We used to go
up in the bush and get bamboo for them every day.
When I'm talking about bamboo, I'm talking about like six
inch t a bamboo about thirty feet high, you know, yeah, okay,
And then when you go home at night, you have
to put another load of food out for them to

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eat overnight, because they just eat all the time. They
don't stop. Mister, put out bales and hey, vegetables like
you know, cabbages and carrots and stuff like that. And
we used to put bamboo up and the rafters for them.
And you were all, I mean, it must costs and
an awful a lot of money to feed feed the elephants.

Speaker 2 (01:44:40):
And you were aware today that this was the last day.
You're aware that this was going to happen.

Speaker 6 (01:44:44):
Yeah, but I didn't know it was today. I thought
it was going to be next month.

Speaker 4 (01:44:48):
You know.

Speaker 2 (01:44:48):
I kind of would have liked them to make more
of a song and dance about it so people could
I guess it was a containers. It probably would be
a bit hard to fear. Well, the elephant.

Speaker 7 (01:44:55):
But yeah, from my.

Speaker 2 (01:44:56):
Understanding, I just drove through traffic in an un marked
car today, so that was weird.

Speaker 6 (01:45:01):
Yeah, yeah, I know. I just can't understand it because
when Fashioned died, they had like an open day there,
free open day, you know, for her.

Speaker 2 (01:45:09):
So did you actually turn into your job? Were you
just volunteered there? Is that what you do? Actually managed
to get employed there?

Speaker 6 (01:45:17):
No? I was just a volunteer there, and I would
still be there now. But I had quite a bad accident.
I fell out of a tree and demolished one of
my arms at the zoo.

Speaker 11 (01:45:27):
P Yeah.

Speaker 6 (01:45:29):
I was outside the zoo, actually in the motions rope,
preaking cash and wasn't feeling very well this day, and
they asked me if I don't get some willow leaves
because their medicinal for the elephants.

Speaker 2 (01:45:39):
Oh you like this friend, yeah, paracetamol.

Speaker 6 (01:45:41):
Yeah yeah, yeah yeah. And I climbed up a tree
and the was about ten feet off the ground, i'd say,
and as the branch gave way and I sort of
fell sideways and landed on a rock on my arm,
and that was it for me. Yeah, I'm still suffering
with it now. I'd still be there now.

Speaker 2 (01:46:00):
Oh so you really are. I mean, you've done that.
You've put your life on the line for the elephant.

Speaker 6 (01:46:05):
Well yeah, but it was my own silly fault.

Speaker 2 (01:46:08):
Still, you played a big price.

Speaker 6 (01:46:10):
Yeah I know, I know that, but never mind, I
think it was worth it.

Speaker 2 (01:46:14):
Yeah, okay, Well that's really I really appreciate hearing from
you to night Mike. There we go, elephant one O one, Hello, Ellen.

Speaker 11 (01:46:22):
Hey, how are you good?

Speaker 2 (01:46:23):
Ellen? Thank you great.

Speaker 11 (01:46:26):
One of the guys are one of the hard case
runs in Graymy just went to the circus one day
and the elephant was out to the side grazing in
the grass and some long grass there, and anyway, he
decided to talk to the elephant and he said, oh,

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take you, take you for a walk.

Speaker 4 (01:46:51):
We'll go for a walk.

Speaker 11 (01:46:53):
So he gets to the elephant and.

Speaker 6 (01:46:56):
He walked right.

Speaker 11 (01:46:57):
Through that up Macky Street in town, walked over to
the Compton Bridge and the Cattle's Pub knocked on the
door and he says, I got a customer before you.
He said, uh, I think you better big get a
bigger gasp for this run. Curly Curly. He had a

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five ounce and he ate drinks fides. But anyway, I
got a jag and I poked at the door. Alph
just slipped it up and gone, and it lifted his
trunk gap and lifted the verander up on the fraind

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that that was over the street, nearly wrecked it. And uh. Anyway,
he says, you better get that thing out of here
before it wreaks the pup. Anyway, he walks on home
and he's he's it down in the guard. The elephant

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walks around his dead's garden and each all his cabbages
and cleans him in the garden up everything. Well, he
did leave some donation for you.

Speaker 2 (01:48:22):
So to get the story right, the elephant was a circus.
Elephant was just grazing and someone comes along and takes
it for a walk.

Speaker 11 (01:48:28):
Yeah key, Yeah, Kelly took it for a walk right
down three three and Mackey Street.

Speaker 2 (01:48:36):
It's pretty funny. Who was curly with he made of yours?

Speaker 18 (01:48:40):
No?

Speaker 11 (01:48:40):
Oh oh yeah. I used to work with him, work
with him where.

Speaker 10 (01:48:46):
When when I was.

Speaker 11 (01:48:49):
Doing bridge when I was working on bridges and what
have you.

Speaker 7 (01:48:52):
Around.

Speaker 11 (01:48:54):
He used to be in the mine one at one time,
but the mines closed down and he went went and
worked for another fair. We used to do jee bridges
and round about on the main highway.

Speaker 2 (01:49:14):
It's a good story. So he just got it and
walked across to the part. Is it the pub that
they've just closed?

Speaker 5 (01:49:19):
Is it?

Speaker 11 (01:49:19):
Are you still on the coast, Yeah, I'm still on
the coast.

Speaker 2 (01:49:24):
Is it the public cob? Did we just decide that?

Speaker 11 (01:49:26):
Was it just a story of the last it's closed here?

Speaker 4 (01:49:29):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (01:49:29):
We were Yeah, we talked about it.

Speaker 5 (01:49:32):
What was it called.

Speaker 11 (01:49:35):
Kell's hotel? Keel's Hotel?

Speaker 8 (01:49:39):
Had it?

Speaker 12 (01:49:42):
Gee?

Speaker 11 (01:49:42):
What was our roin?

Speaker 6 (01:49:44):
Uh?

Speaker 11 (01:49:46):
I can't think of the name. Guy's name that had it.

Speaker 7 (01:49:52):
Yeah.

Speaker 11 (01:49:53):
Anyway, he cleaned his beds, God Nappy went dead, was
very happy, and he bought the elephant home. Anyway, Look,
they were trying to they were going to use elephant
to pull the tent up. Yeah, but frustrated, where's the elephant?

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Where's it gone? And someone then in the in the
street told him that they said the elephant walking through town.
And then things got a bit worried because they needed
it back at Victoria Park pull the tent up.

Speaker 2 (01:50:32):
It's a good story. There's some good photo there's some
good photos of the elephants coming on the main street,
but none of the elephants at the pub.

Speaker 4 (01:50:41):
Yeah.

Speaker 11 (01:50:41):
When he went in the pub, Turley said, I gotta
give the have a beer with Ella.

Speaker 2 (01:50:51):
I'm just reading all the comics about it now, OK.
I'd like the story in Curley's words, Uh yeah, yeah,
all saying I wonder if it was the one of

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the elephants that Curly Abelson found one night and felt
sorry for because he thought it was lonely, so he
took it home.

Speaker 6 (01:51:16):
Was he?

Speaker 2 (01:51:17):
What have you been intoxicated?

Speaker 5 (01:51:20):
Yeah?

Speaker 11 (01:51:20):
I think you might think you got it online.

Speaker 2 (01:51:28):
Oh yeah, I think it's an amazing story. Ellen. Thank
you for everyone's got elephants, See elephants. Everyone's got an
elephant story. It would be a great book. Every Town's
gone an elephant story, especially with Curly Abelson brilliant. Well,
they eat so much elephants, they can't be and they

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must be an efficient with their digestive system. Will that
be right? Long incubation period eight twenty two months gestation,
I guess you call that. Three types of elephants African
Savannah African elephant, African forest elephant, and the Asian elephant.
If you have anything to say at elephants, would love
to hear from you Elephant Central Heittel twelve. We've about

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ten minutes left to before the show.

Speaker 4 (01:52:17):
So.

Speaker 2 (01:52:20):
I will remind you of what my favorite biscuit is,
the Echo cake. Would you call it a biscuit? I
think you would. Anytime I see those or mention those
that to realize that's what I want to be eating.
But yes, if you want to talk, you can see
why I say they should be book about elephants. There's
so many good stories, so many good stories. I just

(01:52:45):
don't know if I'm the person to rot it. It's
all very fun collecting the stories, and you gonna sit
down and do it.

Speaker 1 (01:52:51):
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