You get bang for your buck (28 October 2025)

Marcus kicks off the short week with talk on fireworks, power cut preparedness, and the dirge that is the office Secret Santa...

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Speaker 1 (00:07):
You're listening to the Marcus Lush Nights podcast from News Talks.

Speaker 2 (00:11):
I'd be.

Speaker 3 (00:14):
In.

Speaker 4 (00:14):
Greetings and welcome. How are you. I hope you're good.
Welcome to Tuesday. It feels like Monday. Nothing is short
as as long as a short week. But anyway, that's
just something that happens when an extraordinary game of baseball
just finished. This is Game three of the World Series
between the Dodgers and the Toronto Blue Jays. And what
was extraordinary is it was five all in the seventh innings,

(00:34):
and it was five at the end of the ninth,
and it was five all in the top of the
eighteenth innings. So Freeman got a walk off home run
on the bottom of the eighteenth so whent Yeah, it was.
It was in terms of length that was equal to
the longest game ever in playoff history or World Final history. However,

(00:55):
because the game has been short now with the pitch clock,
it only went about six and a half hours, and
see the longest game was seven hours. So yeah, an
extraordinary game was quite the one to watch. Wow, that's
just for that was with Otani, because Shohatani was extraordin
think got three or four I mean he was just unbelievale.
In his first seven innings, I was scoring at will,
but as the game went on and on and on,

(01:16):
no one ready scored. But anyway, that'll be a big
talking point for some of the fans of American sports.
So that's something that I'm just going to tell you about.
You might have just finished watching that start at one
o'clock and it felt like a cricket match finished just before,
certainly after see about twenty to eight, So extremely long match.
The other thing I want to talk to you about, too,
is that the news cycle is short, and the news

(01:39):
cycle is hungry for new stories. But I just need
to tell you that the situation in Southland is still
very much wow. We went camping up in Otago over
the weekend, so we drove from Bluff to the peninsula

(01:59):
in Otago and as we went through Invert Cargo and
on the old coach rode and down up through Cluther,
the amount of damage out there is unbelievable. And when
I'm saying the amount of damage, a lot of it
seems to be major, major trees, major one hundred and
fifty hundred year old macrocarpers, whole rows of them have

(02:21):
all gone, and boy oh boy, the power lines and
the power network is a complete mess because they all
seem to be power they all seem to be a
lot of them, seem to be windblocks on eaches of
property and they've all gone. Of course what's next to
the property is the power lines. So yeah, it's unbelievable

(02:42):
amount of damage. So there is no surprise that there
are still a lot of power cuts around rural Southland.
Dan Cluther and this will be day four, day five
for people now, So yeah, there's a real crisis. Driving
back on Monday, we saw a lot of trucks bringing
down transformers. The Hercules has brought down transformers and we

(03:04):
came into Ascott Park, the big hotel outskirts of town
and in the car park just full of like PowerNet
lines people's vehicles. So obviously there's a lot of lines
vehicles or lines. Workers out of the area have come
down to help out. So yeah, it's a massive project

(03:24):
going and I don't think it's going to be days
or weeks. I think it's probably gonna be months before
everything's back to all go. And I don't know, I
mean a lot of people are probably listening that are farmers,
dairy farmers, and I think probably if you're a dairy farmer,
I don't even know where they're dumping the milk, but

(03:47):
through a dairy farmer, I imagine your first priority now
is going to get a decent generator because this is
and I don't know how it works for insurance or
what happens how you recoup those losses, but one thing's
going to be I think for sure, is that probably
no matter what, I think, the insurance is going to
go up next year because this has been a very
expensive weather event. So there's still a large number of

(04:08):
homes and farms in rural south and that are without power,
and now I've got the snow as well, so I
just you know, I'm hearing your people if you're struggling,
I know. But the amount of trees, I think probably
if you're a woodsman or a woods person that works
with exotic lumber, whether it be pine or macrocarpet or cedar,

(04:33):
there is a lot of wood out there. There is
an extraordinary I've never seen so many trees falling down.
It's not just one tree that's gone off and they've
got and taken the whole row with them. So yeah, so,
and you might have questions or something to say about that,
but you know, I am aware that the new cycle
has probably moved on because there has been fresh snow

(04:54):
and I think it was almost snow to sea level
in south and out Fort Rows, out Fort Rows and
that part of the CA tree today. So yeah, there's
another weather event. But still a lot of people are
still recovering from the fair and bearing in minds very

(05:15):
cold temperatures down south. So a lot of those people
will have been in those cold temperatures without any way
to heat their house because they will have no power.
So yeah, foreto's toc a new Yerea did snow I
think today so well down to low levels. So that's
something about what's going on. Anyways, that's the baseball and
the weather. What are we going to talk about tonight? Well,
those topics too will exist if there's something you want
to mention about those. If there are, if you're out

(05:37):
that situation of despair and anger about the power, or
you want to talk about that, feel free. If it's
going to do you any good, you are more than
well could bring up and talk about it. But I
do know that a lot of you are still without power.
I would imagine most people five days on would have
managed to beg borrow or borrow some form of a generator.
So I hope that's the case. But if you've got

(06:01):
your own interesting stories, let us know. The number is
eight hundred and eighty ten eighty. That's what's going on tonight.
That's the baseball and that's the floods. By the way,
there's been a lot of snow. Even there were police
cars and ambulance is stuck in the snow north of
Dunedin today. Fortune with the ambulance there was no one
on board. There was people on board, but no patients
on board. But it has been another day of trying

(06:23):
weather and this is almost November. And that's the thing
about whether it often happens at strange times, doesn't it.
And then we've got this big hurrac and heading towards
Jamaica also so across all of that tonight. So there
we go. That's the update for if you want to
talk about these things, feel free, well I wouldn't mind
going in is the major topic tonight. I was reading

(06:44):
a fairly good article today about fireworks and the question
was will New Zealand ever banned fireworks. I think there's
a few things that are play here. I think no
government these days wants to be seeing as interfering because
people don't like that nanny state data. You know, a

(07:07):
lot of people think that we should be able to
make our own decisions. We don't want governments over legislating.
And there's been a couple of instances that when governments
in their third term or second term have interfered with
what people want to do. One was cats and dairies,
I think, and one was it one with light bulbs
and one with shower heads.

Speaker 2 (07:25):
All you know.

Speaker 4 (07:26):
It was when government kind of overreached and people didn't
like it all. They thought it was unnecessary. And I
think that's what the government's attitude is towards fireworks. They
don't want to say, Okay, you can't do this because
you look like the fun police. I would have thought
probably they would have been banned by now, but they
haven't been. And if you want to talk about that,

(07:49):
I'd be curious to hear your take on it. There's
a couple of things at play. The weather's been appalling,
the wind is bad and it's dry, and the country
probably as a fire risk. So yeah, it does seem
to be the wrong time of their but also too,
we've got festivals changing. Dewali seems to coincide with this
time of the year, as even up at a Dewali celebration,

(08:11):
and anette friend was dancing at a Dewali celebration Danita
and over the weekend. So yeah, that's right in the
middle of this. So there's Dewali to think about that
they like fireworks also, And then the other thing is
a whole pet angle and how cruel it is to
pets and animals and all of that. But you know,
I don't think we've got the stage yet where that

(08:34):
everyone's happy about fireworks. I think you've also got to
look at the situations with places like you know, it's
bad to dogs, but then again you look about dogs
themselves and how many dogs a year get put down
in Auckland because the dog owners are responsible. So yeah, okay,

(08:55):
yeah fireworks can be bad, but probably the dog owners themselves,
they'd look at some of their behavior. But if you
want to comment on that with fireworks, I be very
keen to know where you are sitting on this. There's
always petition, there's also always virtue signaling. So Woolworths, which
was countdown, they've stopped selling fireworks and the warehouse stopped

(09:19):
selling them in twenty twenty one. Now, yeah, I think
it's kind of hypocritical if you're selling fireworks or not
selling fireworks while still selling cigarettes. I believe Woolworth's probably
still sell cigarettes, do they. I don't know about the warehouse,
but yeah, I don't like that virtue signaling to say, hey,
look how sweet we are. We're not selling you know.

(09:40):
I'm sure they sell plenty of foods that kill you.
So yeah, I'm not a big fan of that. But
it seems as though these days you've got the pop
up stores that pop around and sell fireworks for the
two or three days they're allowed to do it. So yes,
if you've got a if you've got yeah, of course Alcoho,
Wilworth will sell Alcoha well not in Voicago because you've
got the licensing trust, but Woolworths will sell around the

(10:01):
country cigarettes and alcohol, which probably would definitely cause much, much,
much more damage than fireworks. So yes, it almost seems
to be the time for the annual debates. If you've
got a and look, I probably and someone that's gone
from a situation where I've always been pro fireworks to
someone now that probably doesn't partaken fireworks because the kids

(10:24):
aren't that really into them. But you know, I still
think probably they shouldn't be banned, but perhaps I'm slightly
more competsionate about it now, But yeah, I do think
it's hypocritical of retailers to not sell them just to
try and get some sort of free publicity when they're
sitting all sorts of other goods that are incredibly dangerous.
So yeah, fireworks to start with tonight, if you want
to come through and talk about that. Oh, by the way,

(10:46):
The other thing I think probably that's interesting with fireworks
also is that where we live has changed. Once upon
a time, not too long ago, we all had big
sections with backyards and we had fires and bonfires, and
that was a good place to have fireworks. A lot
of people now have no backyards. They live in apartment
particularly in Ork, and things have changed, and those people

(11:07):
now have nowhere to go and let off fireworks. So
they've banned people letting them off in public areas, which
I think probably is sensible but not entirely practical because
now where do people go, so anything to say about
fireworks now is your chance? The number is eight hundred
and eighty ten eighty and nine to nine two to text,

(11:28):
are you for them? Are you give them? And what
needs to happen? It's just a shame. It's the windy
part of the year. And by the way, there's always
people setting off fireworks at late at night. So yeah,
youthful exuberance will put it down to So you can't
you can't trust everyone with fireworks to be responsible with them,

(11:49):
because I mean, part of fireworks is about being a
little bit risky. I would imagine, Marcus, why can't the
army front up with his generators to help out the
milk farmers to help save this dog? I think they
probably have. I think two hercules landed in a vocabul
over the weekend. I presume they were care of generators.
Don't know where those generators were from, but certainly certainly

(12:16):
they were doing their bit, Marcus. Most dairy farmers were
able to hook up the PT off the back of
the tractor de generator. The cowsjed so they can't get milking.
The herd just can't refrigerate the milk. Thank you for that, Marcus.
I tuned into the late in the seventh innings, thinking,
oh yeah, I watched the final two innings. Boy was

(12:38):
I wrong anyway? Seventeen holds of the weather and bluff
nice fine day, get in touch its fireworks, anything else
and power cuts. Looking for to your calls twenty two
past eight, Paul, this is Marcus. Good evening.

Speaker 3 (12:51):
Hey Mike, there you getting on good things. I was
in New Delhi a week ago for Dwali, and I
was in an apartment on the sixteen four and fireworks
started at four o'clock in the arsnoon, Cows back firing, rockets, mortars,
everything through until four or five o'clock the next morning.

(13:12):
And the New Deli government was so upset about the
air conditions and stuff that they decided that you could
only use green green skyrockets or explosives of whatever the
hell they were, and it made no difference whatsoever.

Speaker 5 (13:30):
Wow.

Speaker 4 (13:32):
Yeah, I think when you look at the regulations, the
amount of gunpowder you can have in your fireworks is
about one hundred times what you can here, So it
really is a big dealer. I mean, you get bang
for your buck there. I think.

Speaker 3 (13:43):
I would have just liked to have got some sleep.

Speaker 4 (13:45):
Could you breathe, he could breed, not at all.

Speaker 6 (13:50):
No.

Speaker 3 (13:50):
We were on the sixteenth floor and if you opened
the door, we had a deck. I never once set
foot on the deck. You opened the door and you
could chew the air outside. You could during daylight, you
could see all the other high rise apartments around you.
Right time, you couldn't see the lights. You couldn't see anything.
And it got so people were you know, road rules

(14:13):
in India are just a suggestion, but people were driving
their cars around and mantinued IGNISSI off deliberately. So the backfire, that,
the noise that, oh, mind boggling, right, mind boggling.

Speaker 4 (14:27):
Work or holiday?

Speaker 7 (14:30):
Uh neither.

Speaker 4 (14:32):
Medical procedures, Oh well, okay, well so you went in
recovery modes that wouldn't be good. You probably need your sleep.
Were it was you, I would have quite liked it.

Speaker 3 (14:40):
So I went over for a bilateral new replacement. Sure,
and the hospital world class robotic surgery stage and world
class all of that. And then you're India. You know,
New Delhi. I don't know about the rest of the place,
but New Delhi is just such a contradiction of wealth

(15:02):
and poverty. It's just and you know, too lane roads
going in each direction have got four lanes of cars
on them, and if you're in an overall you just
want to close your eyes. You don't want to see
what's going on.

Speaker 4 (15:15):
Is it a waiting list thing for you? Or because
the operation is the medical the medical team are better.

Speaker 3 (15:22):
Okay? So I was. I was approved by whatever it
is I've scotten what they call it now ACC and
then they withdrew the approval and then I was two
years wait to get one done. If I wanted the paper,
it was steady five thousand dollars each. So I did

(15:42):
my homework, worked out what to do and where to go.
Apres the poor, the accommodation for twenty one day World's
best surgery with robotic surgery twenty seven thousand dollars.

Speaker 4 (15:57):
Well, did you go through an agent or did you
go through a New Zealand facility or did you do it?
Could you do it all yourself?

Speaker 6 (16:04):
No?

Speaker 3 (16:04):
I did it through CHET gp T Wow.

Speaker 4 (16:08):
I was going to ask you. There was my next
question actually that CHET could jet GIP. That's amazing.

Speaker 3 (16:13):
So I said to check GTT. Work out the quickest
and the most biggest value flight to New Deli and
back to christ Church and yeah, it's just it nailed it.
You know, I couldn't and I did it so quickly
that you're thinking, well, how long am I going to

(16:35):
be going through all the airlines webs I'm trying to
keep all the year says And you know.

Speaker 4 (16:41):
As far as working out which medical team to go
with it, did you do chet GPT with that or
did you was there and you seen an agent for
the for the hospital you went to.

Speaker 3 (16:52):
No, I actually went to the hospital. I asked chat
GPT who was the best need replacement a robotic need
replacement surgeon in the world, because I thought I'd start
there and work my way down, and I ended up
with a guy called subus Gunjed who was the poster

(17:12):
boy for Striker to manufacture the robotic machines New Zealand.
Does I don't know. I think they say too or
three machines in New Zealand. Subuch Guns that has done
over twenty thousand EE replacements. I had surgery in the
morning and I was walking in the afternoon. That's both
me totally replaced.

Speaker 4 (17:36):
It's unbelievable. I mean I've heard of Turkey and I've
heard of Vietnam. I've heard of Mexico, I haven't heard
of India yet. It had been the forefront of cheap, cheap,
top line medical stuff. That's amazing.

Speaker 3 (17:49):
So the fourth hospital I was in Inguru Gurram in India.
They had two grand pianos in the square.

Speaker 4 (17:59):
And people living on the streets outside. Is that the case?

Speaker 3 (18:03):
Oh? You know, you uber would stop and people tapping
on the window. You know, it was just the most
you know, I mean, I've never been in the country
before where you can't trust the water that comes out
with tat. You know. We never drank water that didn't
come out of a bottle that had a speel on it.
You couldn't, you know. It was just wow, what all

(18:27):
I own it? And I was so so grateful to
get home. And I swear that just simply getting back
to New Zealand will help with my healing.

Speaker 4 (18:37):
Yeah, it's a great corporal. I really appreciate you coming through.
If you want to talk on their eight hundred and
eighty ten eighty. It's amazing. I was reading quite a
bit today about chet GPT and booking airlines. You know,
get me from this air this place to this airplace.
Look for the least unpopular look for popular routes that

(18:58):
look for roots that people don't take very often. There
was a whole criteria to try and work out, you know,
and look and you could just check it on to
the jet GPT and it would do amazing things as
far as air fears go. So there's a thought for
maybe a bit different New Zealand because we haven't got
many airlines but still would have some and people are
doing it on cheat SHEBT. So yeah, that's that we're
thinking about. Get in touch if you don want a talk.

(19:19):
My name is Marcus Hurdle, twelve o'clock. The number is oh,
eight hundred eighty ten eighty. If you want to text,
it's nine to nine too. We're talking fireworks, but there
are other other stuff as well, including operations overseas. Appreciate
his moxie going and doing all of that. So you
do get in touch if you want to talk about that.
There's anything else you want to mention, Oh eight hundred

(19:39):
eighty ten eighty Watch out for measles. It's now at
the Wellington High School and spreading, spreading, spreading, So yeah,
that's what ron about tonight. To look forward to your
course and I say, oh, eight hundred eighty ten eighty dB,
it's Marcus, good evening.

Speaker 8 (19:56):
What a great line you could chew your way into
the atmosphere from Paul.

Speaker 4 (20:03):
Yeah, yeah, Oh it wasn't Paul. I mean, I mean, gosh,
I wasn't. I'm not sure what his backstory was gonna be,
but it was a big one, all right. GPT.

Speaker 8 (20:13):
How evocative though, you know, that really tells what it
feels like. Now, this is not going to go well
tonight because I've had a couple of your juices. Anyway,
First of all, the power cuts, I want to got
two things I was talking about. I would have thought

(20:34):
the tele communications people would have had a plan, a
backup plan for putting emergency generators into cell phone towers.
So I went three days with those cell phone coverage,
so I don't need them, But what about people I've
need them for health immediacy blah blah blah. Surely, in

(20:58):
today's society where we've cut away landlines because I don't
have a landline, all of my it comes by my
cell phone, including this phone call, the providers should have
a backup plan for powering up cell phone towers. Not everyone.

(21:22):
And I get it. Yeah, silly to provide a generator
for every tower just in taste, that's silly. I get that.
But surely they should have a plan for every third
or every one that has a certain number of subscribers

(21:44):
to area to protect.

Speaker 4 (21:47):
Agreed, Right, did you did you try? Did you try
dialing one one one? I think the one one one
calls would piggyback off other providers, so if it was
an emergency, you would be fine.

Speaker 8 (22:00):
I had no cell phone coverage full stop.

Speaker 4 (22:02):
Okay, So did you try one one?

Speaker 8 (22:06):
And well I didn't have the need to, and they
had their own problems. I could drive upper hill and
piggyback of somebody who's got power. I get there. But
like I'm in White Holer, so there are people here
that are at twice my age. You know there are

(22:26):
one hundred and seventy three. Yes, sorry for that. Anyway,
I have an idea for your listeners. I'm sure somebody
else has come up with, but I'm going to give
it to you because I've never heard it before, and
I'm going to give it now. You're going, if you've

(22:47):
got a power, can You're going this and this is
pre dedicated, predicated. Sorry, predicated on the idea the super
racket bags that are insulated, so that yeah, you have
is the foil lined of maracket bags. Are going to
have to get things home.

Speaker 4 (23:11):
Sorry, free refrigerator bags whatever they are.

Speaker 8 (23:14):
Yeah, I've seen them, just started bleeding all over the place. Bugger. Anyway,
you get one of them, and again you have to
transport to get out of your area to somebody who's
got ice. You put a bag of ice into your
freezer bag and with the things that you need to
keep cool, such as milk, cheese, butter and other things,

(23:40):
and you put it in your God give me freezer.
No wash the machine, of course, she and I'll have
said it done before.

Speaker 4 (23:54):
But and I appreciate you've got your own stuff going
on with this phone call. There's a lot of textures
to this phone call. Do you I appreciate you for
staying on there with the bleeding and things. The washing
machine is draining. It's not insulated though, is it.

Speaker 8 (24:09):
No, But it's got an air gap between the bowl
and the end of the side thing and its side,
So you've got an air gap, which is a bit
of an insulator. If you've got a family, it's only
to say one bottle of milk. You just leave it
in the bag. If you've got a large family, you
fill the bowl up with ice. You put your stuff

(24:31):
in that. When it melts, it's not going anywhere. One
of the big problems with trying to keep things cold
is what do you do with the water from the ice.

Speaker 4 (24:42):
Did you invent this, TB.

Speaker 8 (24:44):
I've never had it news before. I don't believe I can't.
I couldn't be the first way to come up with this.
But I'm telling your listeners because I think it's a
good idea.

Speaker 4 (24:55):
I think it's a great idea. I think it's a
fantastic idea. So you fill your you fill your washing
I was going to say, because you fill your freezer,
but then the water would come out the front. You
fill your washing machine with ice, and you put your
your milk and your cheese in that.

Speaker 8 (25:10):
Yeah, you put your perishables in that. It will last.
Like I tried it, I carel this idea. I didn't,
and I just finished doing it and the power came
back on. But it lasted three days anyway, because I
left it in there to see if it would work,
and it did.

Speaker 4 (25:28):
Tried and tested, dB, it's a great call from you.
I appreciate that greatly. There we go. There's a lot
to unpicked from those calls. Twenty four to nine And Marcus,
it's Johnny from Clifton. I spent the weekend getting free
firewood down at Queen's Park. A lot of brothers were
down there helping the community, cleaning up the downtreet, getting
the free firewood. We got power back Saturday. Having the
bosses generated was a blessing. We'll be investing in one
myself now the brother Johnny, Thank you, Johnny. We are

(25:51):
talking fireworks. I just I don't even know I that
is there the passion for the debate now or people
just realize its status grow. Marcus, I'm battling in somnia
and of medication. Getting good seat helps my health issues.
People fireworks four weeks on end, anything up to one
A must be causing many health issues in the community
and lack of productivity. So one fear that those people

(26:14):
cause so much difficulty for so many with insomnia. And
also people need to sleep through these jobs like my
train drive A friend ban fireworks have already had enough
of the stupidity, So get in touch you on to
talk about that. Fireworks and living in a power cut. Marcus,

(26:34):
I'm allful cultural sah celebrations with Dewali this week. However,
fireworks just before midnight on a Sunday night is a
little bit insensitive to others. Marcus. My sister lives in
Invera Cargill. She wants people to know there's a Facebook
scam going on with someone selling generators in south and
they don't have They get the money put into a
bank account and say they'll drop the generator off and
it never shows up. Imagine how many birds, species, birds

(26:58):
insects having impacted or wiped out some of what the
people are saying. It's twenty two to nine. Back in
a bit. Fireworks and Sammie, that's the topic for tonight,
and of course the storms. Who won't forget the storms.
If there's information you need about power cuts or anything,
get in touch with us and are broadcast that for you.
That's my promise to you. Get in touch with you

(27:18):
do want to talk? Oh eight hundred eighty ten eighty
nine nine two tex Hea or midnight tonight and beverage
along from twelve one new case of measles today. The
current total is eleven that's a thing. Now we'll be
doing current totals. By the way, Guy Forks, is next Wednesday.
They can be sold from Sunday Sunday, Monday, Tuesday Wednesday.

(27:41):
That's four days. And I don't know where we are
with Guy Fawks, but if you want to say anything
about that. Also, by the way, today is nine hundred
and ninety nine days till the solar eclipse, which is
the twenty second July twenty twenty eight. That is toatality
in the South Island of New Zealand. There you go.

(28:02):
If you want to talk about this, let's be an
let's be hearing from you. But it is the annual
Guy Fawkes discussion. By the way, it's Chernobyl, the sight
of the and famous nuclear disaster. There are now blue
tinged dogs. I don't quite know why the dogs are
going blue, but they're quite a vivid blue. I don't

(28:24):
know if it's a prank, it's a real thing. They
seem to be in good health, but they seem to
have had some sort of chemical reaction. There are blue dogs.
The wild dogs are descended from pets abandoned during the
nuclear disaster. They're exposed to six times the radiation. Humans

(28:45):
can withstand. They're fine, but they're blue. Yep. They're generically
developed over generations to withstand the toxicity of their environment,
and it might provide insight to the health measures of
chronic radiation exposure. Just the blue will survive here until

(29:08):
twelve If you want to be a part of an
eight hundred and eighty ten eighty Marcus, fireworks are nothing
but money, wasting garbage and pollue. Well, you can't say
it's wasting money if people enjoy it. You could say
going to Monster Trucks is wasting money. You could say
subscribing to the Resting Channel. You could say anything's wasting
money that doesn't provide you with something at the end

(29:29):
of it. You could say going to Taylor Swift's wasting money.
It brings great joy. Marcus. Fireworks are nothing but wasting money,
wasting garbage and pollution. If people must look at sparkles
and study the stars, if they can set through the smoke. Marcus.
I live in Auckland. When the christ Church earthquakes happened.
I remember five to six days later, lots of people

(29:50):
still had no power or water and were crying on
the news, saying where's the help? After that? I got
our family home prepared, water generator, I always keep sixty
liters of pet from the garage, got enough storable food
to last six weeks. Might not be enough for something
really big, but if we went down south right now,
we'd be doing okay, a Marcus, Why why why are
we still celebrating active political retribution that occurred two ndred

(30:14):
years before this country was even discovered by anyone? Think
it was more than two hundred years, wasn't it? But oh,
I said discovery anyone? Well, you could say why why
why do we celebrate Easter? Why do we celebrate Christmas?
You could put that in terms of anything. I don't
think relevance to New Zealands has ever been a great

(30:36):
gauge to work out what we celebrate and don't. It's
always been part of our culture as long as I've
been alive. It's always what's happened, always been a big deal.
So you might say it's a rival as strange, but
we've always done it, so it's a it's a big
news in a tradition, Marcus. Do all those people that

(30:58):
complain about fireworks only have one dimensional lives? What do
they do for kicks, eat Brussels sprouts, question mark sixteen
away from nine, looking forward to input Hittle twelve fourteen
away from nine. If you just joined us, welcome inn,
good evening. By the way, the baseball has finally finished.
It's supposed to go nine and things that went eighteen

(31:18):
and I Dodgers have won that they're two one up
in the series, So there we go. And just reiterating
to the amount of damage for those people that toured
round the bottom of the South Island over the weekend, unbelievable, unbelievable,
the number of trees that are down and year, it's
not gonna be a quick fix for the power companies
because yeah, there were still there was still driver between Invercarglin,
and even there were still kind of power lines right

(31:40):
down beside the road with trees on top of them.
So yeah, I wonder. The thing that surprised me is
how many people have got power. It seemed like the
whole network was absolutely decimated. And yeah, if you're a
dairy farmer out there, I'd be curious to know how
things have been for you and what are the concerns
and what are the challenges you've faced being touchable to
to about fireworks. So yeah, where are we with the fireworks?

(32:05):
Are people just at this they don't care about it anymore,
or are they still angry? Or if they managed to
find a way to pacify their pets and work around it.
That's something else I wouldn't mind talking about tonight too,
So do come through you want to talk it this
s or if they've got other topics you want to
talk about tonight. Yeah, get in touch first after a
long weekend. Takes a bit of time to get kick

(32:26):
it back in toget, But yeah, if you want to
talk about this, they talk were about tonight. Oh, eight
hundred eighty ten eighty. There's other topics. I don't know
if I forget what happened in the weekend as far
as news goes, but there might be something there you
want to mention. There is this big storm about to
hit Jamaica winds of two hundred miles per hour. Bearing
in mind I think the winds that we had in

(32:47):
the storm on Thursday, we one hundred and seventy eight
killing meters per hour. This is two hundred miles per hour. Yeah,
Although I think people in those parts do know how
to cope with winds that strong. I don't know if
we would, but get in touch if you want to talk,
as I say, oh, eight hundred and eighty ten eighty.

(33:08):
And also, by the way, if you have pet owners,
have you got a place as vet places like animates?
I think they give you a pressure suit for your pet. Yeah,
it squeezes them in that makes them feel less panicky.

Speaker 2 (33:21):
Is that a thing?

Speaker 9 (33:22):
I don't know.

Speaker 4 (33:22):
If you get them for humans, probably can eleven to nine, Ben,
this is Marcus.

Speaker 5 (33:27):
Welcome, you get a Marcus. I refuse to buy five
weeks anymore. I used to buy them. But now if
you're looking at a decent lot, you're looking at two
or three hundred bucks. And I'd rather spend the night
in the hotel somewhere than you know, spend back on
the money.

Speaker 4 (33:46):
So are we looking at something that's because they're important
from overseas? Yeah, because you think you probably get more
bang for your buck with trade with China and Timur
and the likes of that, wouldn't you.

Speaker 5 (33:57):
Yeah, I haven't seen them like Tema or anything. But no,
I know you used to be able to get a
half decent you know, box of bio weeks and fifty bucks,
but now are you paying a year upwards? Are sort
of one fifty two hundred bucks for just a decent
little box. And it's like, you know, we'd rather have
a night away somewhere, but.

Speaker 4 (34:15):
That would you could do fill the backyard with people
if you've got a backyard, couldn't you.

Speaker 10 (34:22):
Yeah.

Speaker 5 (34:23):
The only problem is that where we are there is
I think there's there's a lot of cats and people
with these little dogs and stuff, and yeah, it's just
it's just not worth it or workers to go honest.

Speaker 4 (34:35):
Yeah, okay, So so it was all okay, so it
was always fun, but it's been priced out of the market.

Speaker 6 (34:40):
Yeah.

Speaker 5 (34:41):
I think it's just you used to get some good stuff.
You know, they're not there basically fizzers now.

Speaker 4 (34:49):
And they took they took the rockets away, they took
the bangs away. So what you're getting is Jerry REGs,
it's not that good.

Speaker 5 (34:55):
No, no, to me, it's not worth the money.

Speaker 4 (34:58):
Okay, And maybe that's what's going to happen to it.
Maybe in the cost of living crisis, people just won't
get into it.

Speaker 5 (35:05):
Yeah yeah, hey, just on the other thing that they're
out the just the generator like I've got one, but
I'll see you mighty eights mighty apes and a little
six fifty what generator for three hundred and thirty bucks.
Now it's enough to run your fridge, your freezer, your TV,
your internet modem and maybe a light or two chat.

Speaker 4 (35:25):
So do you need to go to a multi plug
outlet with four and then plug? Do you need to
start moving fridges and things around or get long? You're
not good to go and need long cables for that
long extension cords?

Speaker 5 (35:35):
Do you just need an extension called chuck it? Like
we've got one sits on a shed. I just pull
it out, chuck it out the door, hook the extension
cord in and then you plug a fork and plug
into it and plug the fridge and the internet modems
next to the fridge anyway, so plug that in and
then you just run a card to the TV and

(35:55):
maybe a lamp. Well your phones on there and yeah,
you know, because at least if you've got if you're
able to plug that at five of mode, then you've
got communication.

Speaker 4 (36:04):
Yeah, yeah, And how much you say it was a
couple of hundi, you.

Speaker 5 (36:08):
Know, it's three hundred and thirty bucks on mighty eight. Well,
it's not going to run a jug or a heater
or anything, but like I said, it'll keep you fridge cold,
give you some lighting, and then give you some communication. Basically.

Speaker 4 (36:19):
Yep, good advice there, Ben, Thanks for that. Nine from nine.
If you want to be a part of Hit on Midnight.
Six from nine Jants Marcus, welcome.

Speaker 11 (36:29):
Hi becus. You're asking about Petois with iks I. Yep,
I've got a dog myself. He's not one of those
little Seti dogs that get easily spooked, but he's absolutely
I'm dreading five weeks, dreading gothwalks because it's like, yeah,
they'll just I mean one night would be okay, but

(36:50):
they happen weeks either side of Godthawks as well. So
I've taken to I've got sedation last year for him,
and it doesn't even work sedation from the vet. He'll
just be a you're running around the circles all night long.

Speaker 4 (37:06):
What sort of dog is it?

Speaker 11 (37:09):
He's a Steffy cross, so he's he's across of the big,
bigger dog. He's about just forty kilos.

Speaker 4 (37:19):
And he's always been like that.

Speaker 11 (37:22):
Nah, I knew you. I mean, he can get a bit,
you know, got edgy at times, but yeah, like just
I don't know what it is, but I mean the
last the last few years. He's only five years old.
But yeah, they got fireworks. I remember Mum telling me,
you heard dog used to go out the backyard try
and take a leak and then they would absolutely just

(37:44):
freeze and she'd have to go out and get it
and bring it big inside. I don't know why they
can't just do public displays of fireworks and then you
know people having them locally at their houses. I hate
to sound like a sports walk, but yeah, it's just
beyond a joke.

Speaker 4 (38:01):
So what was the tranquilizer that Vet gave him?

Speaker 11 (38:06):
I can go get it.

Speaker 4 (38:07):
I don't even know what, so I didn't. What doesn't
make it didn't work anyway? Is that right?

Speaker 11 (38:12):
Well, it sort of calms him a little bit, but
you've got to you know, you said, give them four
of them, and you'd think she's four of them, would be,
But yeah, it still doesn't. It doesn't do the job
at all. He'll be on the bed, off the bed,
running around the circles, hiding in the closet and yeah,
they're going not along to the point where I have

(38:32):
to go around to sell the neighbors. If they can
let me know where they're going to let them off.
But as I said, you know out in my heart
here people will let them off or worked either side
a week or two either side. I've already heard the
first lot last week.

Speaker 4 (38:44):
So you've got no new strategy this year.

Speaker 11 (38:50):
Well I did who do you mention something about a suit?
I think someone said the thunder seed or something.

Speaker 4 (38:54):
I'm going to Yeah, look, someone will tell us. I
think I just heard animate has been mentioned. Wow, I
don't know what it is, so I'm not the person
to ask. Yeah. Yeah, it might be called an it
might be just a quick look. It might be called
a thundershirt or something.

Speaker 11 (39:13):
Thundershirt. Yeah, yeah, I've heard, I've heard something about it.
But if anyone's got any ideas that we know, Yeah,
the bloody things are better.

Speaker 4 (39:22):
Yeah, I'm hearing, and I'm here. Thank you for listener,
because I'm hearing your concern about that too, Jay, so
appreciate that. So if anyone's got any solutions, they're not cheap.
The thundershirt, mind you, this is for dogs that are
nervous at thunderstorms. But I don't know. I mean, how
would you know with thunderstorms coming along? So it's weird
that one hasn't it. So yeah, we're talking guy fawkes

(39:48):
or guy fox as people like to call it, and fireworks.
You got something to say about that? Call us during
the news the numbers eight hundred and eighty or nine
to nine to text, welcome some interesting text. I'll come
of those jays was wanting to know what he can
do with his dogs during guy fawks, So everyone's got
any advice for him. We're also discussing fireworks at large,

(40:11):
and your response to that, Dennis says Marcus. So many
people want dogs and other pets and won't bother to
train them, so humanity gets tated to them. So how
do the police force train dogs and horses to go
into noisy riots, etc. People want a motion, but no effort.
Hey I think another text. Hey, I think public firework

(40:33):
displays are a fantastic way to celebrate guy fawks. Everyone
gets to enjoy them safely. It keeps addition alive. I've
got a few animals myself, some aren't to bother brothers
definitely feel it. So I do think it's worth being mindful.
It's also interesting to see who buys fireworks going and
how expensive there. If you're spending money on it makes
you think about what cost of living really means. That

(40:55):
texts a bit judgmental. In the seventies, you'd buy fireworks
made by Universal Fireworks coming there impressive but quite. They
included Mount the Stupious, Mount, Ignorant Snowstorm, Golden rain Flower
by Roman Gandle Catherine, Quite skyrockets, and Sparklers. The Noisy
ones were Double Happy Tom Thuns, Mighty Canon's Thunder and
Jumping Jack's Allen Susie here from Auckland Puppy Rescue, I'll

(41:16):
text youre a cheap will turnive to a thundershirt that
can be tied on with a scarf that works. Where
is that text? By the way, I've used on a
number of puppies e the anxiety with anxiety issues, music
on and lots of love and cuddles. They need reassurance
one day news in we'll grab and ban them. Have
community events. Funny how acc stop kids from playing on
flying foxes and some play equipment, but we can hold

(41:37):
explosive it in our hands. Crazy. On the Spotify you
can play fireworks sounds This is great for helping to
desensitize your pets to the noise. You can also play
thunderstorm sounds. I found a great Two cats a dog
don't flinch as long as the curtains are closed, Leslie.

(41:58):
So you want to talk about that, that's the topic
of the night, as fireworks and animals and animal safety.
I'm slightly different on that. I've always thought those public
shows are real duds. Year miles away from the local
Lions club setting up a kind of a selection of
Roman care. It's yeah, I've always been extremely underwhelmed by those.

(42:21):
So people always say public displays, But the public displays
I've been too. I think your backyard inferno is always
more fun. So come to also talk about flood through
anything else. The lines are free, oh eight hundred and
eighty ten eighty and the thundershirt. Someone says, I have
to put up with barking dogs every day and night.

(42:43):
Dog owners are just precious when they are inconvenience. That's
from Paul, So yes, the dog. It's funny because in
the past the dog owners always know it's how terrible
is the no one's have a bounced back. But yeah,
noisy dogs are a pain in the neck. And I
think we all know that dogs need to be walked
every day, and I think all owners realize that, but
a lot don't do that. And then you look about

(43:04):
the number of dogs of the euthanase and all every year,
it's like six thousand. So yes, it's not that the
dog owners are a group that are holier than now.
I mean there are. It's a complicated issue. So if
you want to talk about this fireworks and maybe it's
going to be the cost of it. Maybe the price
of them will just people will look. I don't know

(43:24):
what you take on this is, but I'm curious to
hear what you want to say. Also, reactions to the
flood and the storm, if you've got ongoing hassles from that,
and the fact about using your washing machine as a
fridge if there's no power by filling it with ice
because it's draining. It's not a bad idea. Come on, oh,
eight hundred and eighty toad. They might be something else

(43:44):
you want to mention. And the baseball today and anything else,
the final of the rugby in the weekend, I wasn't
a need and for that there was a lot of
support for that. Match people at cafes watching it. Of course,
it wasn't the result they wanted. Marcus to the person
who thinks all dogs can be trained to have fireworks
not bother them. Not all people can be trained to
be a policeman. Animals all different, just like people, have

(44:08):
some consideration, Marcus. Someone's stray dog came onto our property
and killed two of our pets. My wife feels shocked
every time she hears a dog barking. There's anighbor dog
barking at all kinds of dogs barking. Everyone's got us through,
But dog I just seem to think they're entitled to everything, Marcus.
Is not just pets that are affected by fireworks. The

(44:31):
birds are affected. And at the urban boundaries there are
horses cattles which can panic and run into fences. That's
some of the text. But would like your calls on
eight hundred eighty ten eighty. There might be something. These
are topics, but there might be other topics. You've got
to it's all good fireworks or anything else? Good on you?

(44:53):
What do you got people, Marcus? Till midnight? Oh, eight
hundred eighty ten eighty, Come on, let's be hearing from you.
I'll keep your dare with the news around the world.
Also tonight too, there's that big typhoon cyclone whatever you're
gonna have it going to Jamaica. So yep. And by

(45:14):
the way, at Pack and Save in christ Church, pack
and save Saint Martin's pack and save tat papernou In
Pack and save morehouse av They're going to start trialing
facial recognition software to help identify people who have acted
violently or threatening in the store. It's gonna be bad

(45:36):
if people can't go to soup where they're gonna eat.
It's what they need to think of that before they
start acting in a threatening manner. A there you go.
So watch out. Your supermarket is filming you and getting
ready to ban you if you are a misbehavior. Sorry,
if you are a misbehavior I'm glad I got that

(45:57):
right in the end. By the way, Queen Victoria was
four foot eleven one don't even know that, Alana. This
is Marcus. Welcome high markers.

Speaker 9 (46:07):
How are you the same thing?

Speaker 4 (46:09):
Good things? So, Lana, Yeah.

Speaker 12 (46:11):
Good, I'm just reflecting about your fireworks topic.

Speaker 4 (46:15):
Sure.

Speaker 12 (46:17):
So I used to sell fireworks. I used to sell
silent fireworks, and they weren't really a big seller, to
tell you the truth, we tried.

Speaker 4 (46:28):
So were you seeing them for people because they were
less harmful to pets?

Speaker 12 (46:34):
Yeah, that's exactly why that rowdy? So that was your business,
Well so selling fireworks in general. Yes, I was part
of that team and so yeah, we had quite a
lot of different options. But what we found is that
it was a real twanger every time we tried to
sell the silent ones.

Speaker 4 (46:58):
So what are he's saying is there's no demand or
the silent Ones just aren't very good.

Speaker 12 (47:06):
Well, I mean, big shout out to the silent Ones
if you could get that promoted. So maybe they maybe
it could be another genre, explores.

Speaker 4 (47:15):
Oh it's still available.

Speaker 12 (47:19):
Possibly, not too sure they were two years ago.

Speaker 4 (47:22):
Okay, So okay, sod you have stalls around the country,
did you.

Speaker 12 (47:27):
So there was I think Boom Brothers and then New
Zealand Best Fireworks. So yeah that was the company, New
Zealand Best Fireworks.

Speaker 4 (47:35):
And you said you formally you've got out of it
for any reason, Yeah, it was just.

Speaker 12 (47:43):
It was kind of an interesting time to do that.
But yeah, I don't know, I don't know where I
really sit with the argument. I'm kind of. I'm on
the fence. I'm sort of fore and against.

Speaker 4 (47:58):
Yeah, and I think you could have. I think it's
okay to have both positions as long as you have
some awareness of what the other side's on about. I reckon.

Speaker 12 (48:06):
It's like being really good listening to the show this evening.

Speaker 4 (48:09):
I think there's some there's some there's some sets called
quiet skies.

Speaker 1 (48:14):
Is that?

Speaker 4 (48:14):
What is that? What your one was called?

Speaker 12 (48:18):
I forget now, I mean they were. We ended up
with surplus because.

Speaker 4 (48:23):
Maybe people want the bangs and the drama, don't they.

Speaker 12 (48:26):
They certainly do. Yeah, I think I liked your your
description of the backyards compared to the public display of fireworks,
as you say, I think, yeah, it's for the internal pyro.

Speaker 4 (48:42):
Really, the public displays are terrible. I think all those
that recommend public displays have never been to one, and
often they start before it's dark also, which which I
think is always a mistake. I don't know, don't know.
Nice to talk a lot to thank you sixteen past

(49:04):
date Marcus. There is fire risk and pollution into the
atmosphere as well due to fireworks and dog uners. That
always keeps dogs on lee. They always pick up the
dog excrement. I hope it rains and damp and skuyfalks
for safety reasons. Hi Lucas, love your show. I like
the way I'm called Lucas. Hi Lucas, love your show.
When I was a kid way back, everyone in the

(49:24):
street had five works in the backyard, so much happy fun.
Never ever heard about animals, been upset. Dog owners are
too precious. There are too many dogs anyway, Marcus. I
have you used to have a bumper stick? Which read
why did dogs go to obedience school while children won? Wild? Good? Marcus?

(49:50):
There is nothing quite like getting your three year old
to hold and wave the first spark on the backyard.
It's a magic moment, and it's one day yet, and
it's always the fifth. People can prepare FFS, Murray love
an ffs looking forward to you call seventeen past nine.
The number is eight hundred and eighty ten eighty. It's
a more nuanced fireworks discussion. When is the end? When

(50:12):
is the last day of fireworks? Because it seems as
though the people aren't as angry anymore. We've reached a
happy We've reached a happy compromise. We've got no rockets
or no bangers. It's four days. Well, there is Dewali.
I don't know. This is going to sound slightly sketchy
and mischievous, right, I don't know where the Dewali people

(50:38):
where they get their fireworks, if they have some underground network.
Now that sounds suspicious and fear munger, it doesn't it,
But I honestly don't know, or do they just have
to get the same ones that ef because they seem
to get them earlier. Is there a Dewali underground? I

(50:59):
get in trouble for saying that. Suddenly let us know,
because here they were. I think there's Chinese New Year too.
That that's good. That's a banging type thing. Is that
Chinese New Year should be? Pete Marcus, welcome, Marcus, are
you good? Thanks Pete, thanks for asking.

Speaker 13 (51:19):
Just regarding the farmers, if you know how they're getting,
you know how they've been caught out, you know with
the power and that the power power lines and so
forth down, I think maybe it's for their animals wealth
they got. They got millions of dollars tied up in
property machinery and they are not not trying to pick
on them at all, but you know, they got most

(51:41):
and they got boats, and they got whatever camper homes
and all that. Maybe I'm just on their site now
maybe the you know, for the wealth they say cons Well,
my dad was a farmer. Has animals came first?

Speaker 4 (51:54):
So what we're saying, Peter's ongoing from now, most deary
farmers will have generators one because I'll need them, I think.

Speaker 13 (52:02):
So looking on train you now you get themy to
what size they need. It's for for out sixty five
four and a half thousand and thirteen thousand. So that's
not a big layout. If you've got do you want
to look after your animals?

Speaker 8 (52:13):
Say?

Speaker 13 (52:13):
It does happen to getting more and more of these
stem storms now, so maybe they should the best little
bit of money in Syria.

Speaker 4 (52:19):
Because I think they're getting. I think they're getting all
getting a turn of kpay out from Fonterra, aren't they
when we sell after the French?

Speaker 13 (52:27):
Well that's all I means. I think a bit of
responsibility on this side. Now, hey, get a generator. It's
not going to break the bank to service and you
always got you have to worry about the power goes down.
It's always got a generator here.

Speaker 4 (52:37):
Yeah, it does seem to be very vulnerable in the
South Island our power infrastructure, but it's all over ground
and there's big trees all on everyone's properties and strong
Win one thirty k's they're all over and the whole
line is ruined and taking weeks to repair.

Speaker 13 (52:54):
Yeah, so I think it's just like, you know, you've
got a house, you know, you got to sort of
cut it out, so you do have a power shortage
or something. So I think, you know, you just make
sure you can isolate the obviously go ice relations from
the cows. She you're not putting them up the line,
so you know your life and those lives. The technology
is there. I think it's about time to come party
and had generators to be fair. Also for the animals

(53:16):
as well.

Speaker 4 (53:18):
Yeah, there must be no fun not being let down
you as they say, let down you. I don't know
what happens to a cow. I think they get mystartus
fair early on. Do they think that's the way it works?
Twenty one past nine nine twenty three here till twelve
to beverage along from midnight tonight, Christus is Marcus, good
evening and welcome, well.

Speaker 12 (53:36):
Good evening, Marcus seven sharp tonight, Jared I think his
name is Cowley. Cowley Electrical down south was being interviewed
for installing about one hundred generators in the last few
days for the farmers down in Southland, so he was

(53:58):
working all hours of the night. Farmers were milking at midnight.
He talked about mestitis, about how important it was to
milk the cowels and yeah, they were just sort of
praising his efforts for working around the cop basically a
real effort. But he said about one hundred generators.

Speaker 4 (54:20):
Did they say because someone said beforehand that most of
the farmers can run the cow shed off their tractor,
but they need the generator for the refrigeration. Was it
mentioned what they actually need the generators for.

Speaker 12 (54:32):
Well, I didn't quite see the guts of it, but okay,
what he did is he's electrician. But he's funny enough.
I was amused by his name. He was helping the
dairy farmers and his name was Cowley.

Speaker 4 (54:47):
Good, isn't it. That's very good. I would have thought
of that, but you've noticed that when that is quite
fun Yeah.

Speaker 12 (54:50):
Okay, I did, but yeah, he was just so I
don't know what he did. I don't know whether he
gave them all generators or he did something to connect
them by his expertise. But he said about a one hundred. Sorry,
he helped out so and he said all hours of
the night, the farmers were milking anytime midnight everything. He

(55:13):
was out and about for so many hours.

Speaker 4 (55:16):
So did he say where he got all the generators from.

Speaker 12 (55:19):
No, I would have to rewatch it. So I came
into the room and he was being ensued on seven.
So if you watch Steven's sharps on demand, well, I see.

Speaker 4 (55:27):
There was two hercules came under in Forcado. I presume
they had generators. I don't know if they were generators
from mine to ten or generators from the army, but.

Speaker 12 (55:35):
Yeah, I wasn't sure that. Didn't hear them mention where
the generators came from, because I don't expect you be
able to access that many and one hit from us small, Well.

Speaker 4 (55:45):
I don't know how many. I don't know how many.
Just look at the article now about the the hercules
I might be paid with.

Speaker 12 (55:54):
His name is Jared Town.

Speaker 4 (55:56):
Yeah, I look into that.

Speaker 12 (55:59):
Yeah, and just talking about the washing machine for putting
your frozens in and your ice. My first thought was
how a themisplash works double walled, and that's what my
washing scene is like, it would make.

Speaker 4 (56:17):
Sense, doesn't as a bulb, and so yeah, it makes
It's not the vacuum in the middle, but still it's
not gonna it's not going to conduct the heat away
straight away. There's not They're not the air moving in
front of it. Thought it was an extremely good idea.

Speaker 14 (56:28):
Yeah.

Speaker 12 (56:29):
And thirdly, Marcus, when you came on tonight, did I
hear you right to say you went camping at the weekend?

Speaker 15 (56:34):
Yeah?

Speaker 4 (56:35):
We did. That amused me so well, we did. We did.
We all were camping and we're the only camp and
the only tend in the campground.

Speaker 16 (56:46):
I'm not surprised.

Speaker 4 (56:47):
We got it up in twenty minutes, which is pretty
good for the sort of team we've got. And I
don't think.

Speaker 10 (56:51):
It rained now I'm underneaedin.

Speaker 12 (56:54):
Were you in Otago Harber?

Speaker 4 (56:56):
Yeah, yeah, we were put about right.

Speaker 12 (56:59):
I was down at Port Charmers.

Speaker 4 (57:01):
Oh yeah, yeah, and we no, actually we're in Where
were we on set? I just don't think we're we
were on Saturday. We went somewhere and we came out
and looked like there's been a shower.

Speaker 12 (57:11):
Saturday was quite nice. Sunday it was pretty overcast.

Speaker 4 (57:16):
It wasn't.

Speaker 12 (57:19):
But I thought, who goes kemping? Only Marcus would. So
in the winter.

Speaker 4 (57:26):
Winter nearly November, I know when I got up.

Speaker 12 (57:31):
This morning behind my house was white snow.

Speaker 4 (57:34):
Yeah, it wouldn't snow on the on the other side
of there wouldn't be snow on the other I'll tell
you what. We walked up to had a week a
harbor cone and you know that road, do you?

Speaker 14 (57:48):
Yes, yep.

Speaker 4 (57:49):
So we went up the road a bit and it
said road closed because of fallen tree. So we parked
the car and we thought we'd walk up, and we
walked about two k's but unfortunately the harbor cone had
a weekor was closed because of lemming. But boy, oh boy,
was that road barely closed. There was probably half a
dozen giant trees with about a ten meter rates it
all fallen slidden onto the road. So yeah, that's going

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to be I think that's going to be weeks before
they can get rid of that one, because that was
just an unbelievably big just a whole group of trees
obviously fallen backwards, and that whole clump of them is
just slidden right and the road was totally closed.

Speaker 6 (58:24):
Wow, well they were.

Speaker 12 (58:26):
I don't know if you made it into the town
part of Dunedin is not.

Speaker 4 (58:29):
Yes, we did.

Speaker 12 (58:30):
Did you go down to Kevenue towards oh your stadium?
You were here, Yeah, we were.

Speaker 4 (58:34):
The kids played with The kids played on those trees
that did outside the hock and with a grass that
was amazing.

Speaker 12 (58:40):
I was down there on Saturday and trucks photos maybe.

Speaker 4 (58:42):
Oh yeah, we were there on Saturday too, so yeah.

Speaker 12 (58:46):
People were walking through the trunk of the other one.

Speaker 4 (58:50):
It was amazing because the whole all the grass was
like artificial turf. It was just it was amazing. It
was like a wall of grass on the Yeah.

Speaker 16 (58:58):
You had to see it.

Speaker 12 (58:59):
Really amazing that they sell the way they did onto
the grass birge and not the road and not the buildings.

Speaker 4 (59:05):
In fact, I didn't look too Denen didn't look too
badly hit. Around Balcluther and those places, there was trees everywhere,
but Died looked like it was pretty good.

Speaker 12 (59:15):
Yeah, the trees side of it. I have two huge
gum trees and I was worrying about them because it's
the bottom of lie section about four stories high. I
picked up the branches, but there was nothing major. Oh yeah, anyway,
I was just amused about you camping in this weather
and that we.

Speaker 4 (59:34):
Had free good. No, it was extremely successful, But thank
you for that, Chris. Nice to hear from you. Keep
your calls coming through on fireworks. I watch texts. I'll
get to those like your calls. Also, Oh there's plenty
there plenty of texts. I'll get to those in two ticks. Oh,
eight hundred and eighty ten eighty for a good baseball
game tonight if you didn't get a chance to watch
that LA Dodgers one. But yeah, eighteen innings, second longest

(59:59):
final game in history. But yeah, it went for six
hours thirty or something of extraordinary. Marcus, my biggest concern
about the storm situations the water and sewage systems rely
on accuracy. Didn't have backup generators built in. I have
similar failings feelings about cell towers that failed in christ Church. Marcus,
thundershirts don't work for my dog. Just don't react or

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do anything different, drapes pulled and TV or music as normal.
I ignore her if she reacts, so she doesn't feed
off me. For a reason, it works for my dog,
reassuring her feed her anxiety. It may not work for
every dog, but works for mine. Regards V so I
guess that's tough love. Ignore the dog. Good evening, Marcus

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Taranaki got hammered in a storm about twenty thirteen. Now
ninety percent of dairy farms have a generator next to
the cowshed the tractor. PTO that runs the cowshed was
back in the sixties when pulsades and machines ran on belts.
Everything is all electric now, oh y okay. That was
a bit of an old school one, Marcus, Power takeoff
or PTO on the tractor. You still have to have

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the generator, so you need to maintain separate motives. Farmers
all have tractors. By the way. As far as it
was a state of emergency declared in Southland on a
red State of or state of emergency, the last time
that happened in nine to eighty four was for the
floods of Invicago, So it's been forty years since the
last one. Good evening, Marcus, Trust you're traveling well when

(01:01:25):
it in. Council canceled the November fireworks last year for
air pollution and animal safety. Yet at Matadiki allowed thousands
of dollars worth of fireworks to be did off. Difference
being someone else paid for the Matadiki fireworks. My dog
Ninny was born deaf and does not get scared on
Guy Fawk's Night Evening markets fireworks was Britan as a

(01:01:48):
child growing up. My kid's got the dud version algig.
Now stay home, keep the kitchen happy, wait till New
Year's Eve over in the Auckland CBD much better if
we if we only used fireworks, maybe we could protect
our animals. Any idiot should be able to understand how
dangerous fireworks are to a free ranging horse. Marcus. The

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Dewali fireworks are from the previous year's Guy Fawks lines
through twenty seven to ten. Marcus Store Midnight also too,
about storm, storm, storm, storm prepared preparedness, anything else that's
got your fancy tonight, let's be hearing from you. It's fireworks. Also,
will we ever ban them? I thought there for a

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while it was close, but now it doesn't appear to
be that way, So I think probably it's just going
to bounce along for the next ten years and probably
phase out. Of course, Halloween's happening. That's Friday. I think
that seems to be a biggish deal. I don't know
where I am with that one. Let's be hearing you.

(01:02:50):
We're talking generators for dairy sheds, and there's been a
bit of misinformation or it's been a while to get
to the information, but someone sent an email through. I
think it's quite good. I think that's probably more of
the nuts and bolts of where we need to be Marcus.
I think most dairy sheds would need a fifty to
seventy five cava generator. Here a couple and the price.
There's the Perkins diesel generator on trade me forty five

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k and the other one that's sent through is the
Hyundai Diesel stand by generator sixty five kVA. That's twenty
four nine nine nine, So yeah, it's not chump change.
It's big money. Twenty five forty five grand, So that
makes more sense. You'd put off that you get the
stay of a craft before you bought that, wouldn't you

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get the staby love fishing? The old cockies don't they
love going fishing. Don't know what that is? As well
as you can have power cuts when you're out fishing.

Speaker 12 (01:03:44):
Hello die am oh, yes, hi they're back.

Speaker 17 (01:03:48):
I was just ringing to say, it's not how unusual
for it to snow in November, because I remember being
at the hoedown at Cromwell and it was starting to
snow before the day we were leaving. You know, it's
about the hodown was on the fifteenth, we'll say about
the seven of the eighteenth, you know, yeah, it was

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snow and drove back through the Lindus and snow. Yeah, terrible, terrible.
You know, it was my first first time for driving
through so much snow. There was people not they weren't talk,
sticking to the speed and you know, yeah, but it's
not unusual.

Speaker 4 (01:04:29):
I don't disagree. And in South they always say there's
always terrible weather when the tur of Southend's on because
their pride kicks and they always hate seeing that such
shocking weather in late October on the national news when
they cover the Tour of South And this year it's
been canceled. No, it hasn't been postponed. So yeah, but
the weather always terrible the last week of October. For
my reckoning John, this is Marcus.

Speaker 18 (01:04:51):
Good evening, yes, good evening, Americas Fergus. I want to
see or have something done about landowners and their trees.
You know what causes the major problems throughout the country
with storms is trees. Why are they allowed to let
them grow so high as the close to pair lines

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and roadsides.

Speaker 4 (01:05:17):
Well, I guess the trees were there before the power
lines and a lot of cases.

Speaker 18 (01:05:22):
Yes, I know, but it's up to the landowners to
at least trim them down to about four meters, which
still is good shelt about at that height, it's.

Speaker 4 (01:05:31):
A huge expense to because a lot of the trees
alongside roads, haven't they got to get traffic control and
everything in for that.

Speaker 18 (01:05:37):
Yes, that's dead right, but they're the cost of storm
average is quite astronomical. And also they can chip the
wood and sell it to dairy farmers and bendscaters and
goodness so for else so they get some returned back
for their wood.

Speaker 16 (01:05:56):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (01:05:56):
I don't know the answer to that, John, I wonder some.
I wonder if because I know that with the.

Speaker 15 (01:06:03):
With the.

Speaker 4 (01:06:06):
Of dairy farming in the South, a lot of farmers
have taken out a lot of the trees because of that.
You don't want the pines because of because they called
the cow that's caused the cows not to carry the
baby of spontaneous abortion or something from the tree. I
forget what the reason is. So I wonder if there's
been so many trees have been removed that the ones
that are left are now more vulnerable to strong storms.

Speaker 18 (01:06:28):
Well, yes, especially around pair of lines. Not so much
the big high degiments, but the your normal power lines,
and also pouring across onto the road, blocking the road.
You know, a four better tree, say six twelve meters

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back off the road not going to cause any troubles
at all.

Speaker 4 (01:06:55):
I just think after this storm, I think everyone's going
have to reconsider trees. But you know, we don't know.
I don't think we know whether this is a storm,
this is a once of century storm, this is a
storm we're going to get every five years, because it's
it's kind of hard to know, isn't it.

Speaker 18 (01:07:09):
Yeah, But you John every week.

Speaker 4 (01:07:12):
You sound like you're down south?

Speaker 9 (01:07:13):
Are you?

Speaker 18 (01:07:14):
I am? Yes?

Speaker 4 (01:07:15):
Have you seen the Have you driven around and seen
the number of trees that have fallen?

Speaker 3 (01:07:19):
Oh?

Speaker 18 (01:07:19):
I certainly have. I was not rude with the week.
He and the stever say to get around decrees the
area right up north really is bad.

Speaker 4 (01:07:28):
I think it's unbelievable because they're big. I mean, these
are trees that seem to have survived for a hundred
years of weather.

Speaker 18 (01:07:35):
Yes, it makes you want to do well.

Speaker 4 (01:07:37):
I guess too. The ground's wet, and when you've got
strong winds combined with wet ground, the trees aren't all
because not other trees have snapped. Most of the trees
have come right out at the roots.

Speaker 18 (01:07:47):
Yes, definitely, Greles, Yes.

Speaker 4 (01:07:50):
Yeah, I agree, John, You and I agree a lot
of stuff, don't we. Nineteen to ten, seventeen to ten, Thomas,
it's Marcus, good evening.

Speaker 19 (01:08:05):
Hoever, I've just literally game account just heard the brief
thing about generators and some pricing on dairy shehads. I'm
just interested because I was talking about that with somebody today.
I don't know what you've spoken about, but I find
it quite almost ridiculous that that's been using generators for

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dairy sheds. Dairy farmers should be responsible for their own
keeping their own power guy, as far as I'm concerned.
I mean, it becomes in animal health as true, obviously,
but that's their business. Like you know, a cafeteria has
a power cut they they don't expect somebody to come
with a generator and save all of their you know

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those in FIBs. You can also get every every farmer
has attractor. You can get PTO driven generators, which are
not obviously that expensive. I know it's like once in
a bloom moon that they might need them, but they
need to account for that. I mean, farmers can get
together and have you know, run between five shies or something.

(01:09:08):
I just, I just I understand the needs for it,
but I think it should be on the MP.

Speaker 4 (01:09:15):
So Thomas, the PDO generator. You get electricity out of that, right,
it's not you're not belt driving. You're generating power that
can run your rotary cowship is that right? And your
and your pumps.

Speaker 19 (01:09:27):
Yeah, you just don't need the fault.

Speaker 6 (01:09:29):
You don't need.

Speaker 19 (01:09:29):
Another motor essentially use the tractor to correct to run generator.

Speaker 4 (01:09:35):
But I would have I would imagine they've also they've
also got to run refrigerator units on the tanks to
keep the milk cold, don't they. So it's it's going
to draw, but it's going to draw a lot of power,
isn't it.

Speaker 19 (01:09:45):
Yeah, But they've got one hundred and like a minimum.
Most funds are never one hundred or one hundred and
thirty or even higher horse power tractor. I mean that's
going to be enough to run a generator that would
run those things. I mean they don't. I mean it
would be good to have a farmer explain it, but
I don't imagine they have to have the vets running
at you know, all of the things at the same time.
You can do your wash down after or you can

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have your back going, well you well you well, well no,
you would have to have the that going with frigeration
going the whole time. Yeah, I just it just it
just I just find it is.

Speaker 4 (01:10:20):
I mean, well, the proofs in the pudding, we've had
an event and most of them haven't got them. You
think that in foresight you'd see that this would be
a storm every thirty year storm that you know, once
in a while, your power is going to go out
for five days, you're going to need some backup.

Speaker 19 (01:10:33):
Well, maybe it doesn't down here. I mean we're up
in Canterbury, not far from bearing them on the plane here,
and you know the power goes out quite often. I
would suggest that a lot of dairy farmers around here
have got them.

Speaker 4 (01:10:46):
Well, maybe it's that. Maybe it's about a lot of
farms in South and being new. But I imagine this
the dairy farms in South and are probably all twenty years.
I mean, it's not a it's not a recent recent thing.
It's been the last twenty five years thing. I ll
probably fifteen to twenty years thing, the dairy conversions.

Speaker 19 (01:11:02):
Yeah, I mean we're there's something would be older them,
but you're envisions around here. We're supposed to be the ad.
But it's just as supposed to everything to have sitting
on your box if you don't use it. But you know,
I would suggest you get around if you make But
it's just funny that if that does, you know, have
been drawn away from somewher else, they end up being

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used for private business essentially.

Speaker 4 (01:11:26):
Yeah, I'm hearing it. I'm hearing it, Thomas. Thanks so
much for that. Fourteen to ten Jamie, it's Marcus.

Speaker 8 (01:11:30):
Good evening, he Marcus there, you're going good, Jamie.

Speaker 15 (01:11:35):
I'm reading about I'll make that said because it used
to be an arbust that said lock the trees or
at four meters, and that's a terrible idea. No one
should do that because then every every you're three to
four meters, you cut the top out of it or
the head out of it, then you end up with
twenty heads. And then what happens is people leave it

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for ten years. They grow as massive and they've become
real brittle, and then they call an artist to sort
it out. And sometimes you can't even climb it because
they're just that, you know, we're of it shoots out.
It's just not a very safe point. So you're better
off to just leave it and trim the branches off.
The set of trimming it down to four meters, well,

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you've got a branch overhanging your house. You take that
one off, as opposed to just cut in the whole
thing halfway or whatever.

Speaker 4 (01:12:25):
The thing that surprises me, Jamie, you'll know the answer.
That's been an arborist. So many of the trees that
I've seen, I've seen thousands this weekend, they've all gone.
They've all gone at the base, you know, the whole
dirt clump that they're standing in has tipped over. But
no arborist could tell which tree is about to go,
could they?

Speaker 15 (01:12:42):
Now the years have obviously not there. But did you
have a lot of rain before the.

Speaker 4 (01:12:47):
Yeah, it's been a really wet month. It's rained most
days for the last it's been dry up till then
October rained. And well that's team of October rained and
rain and rain. So the ground is wet, hasn't really
dried out. There's been some warm temperature, but it's not
dried out yet.

Speaker 3 (01:13:02):
Oh.

Speaker 15 (01:13:02):
You know, that's an arborous dream that they'll be making
a lot of money because you have high winds and
the wick ground, so the trees have got nothing to
hold on to and they just fall over when the
wind blows.

Speaker 4 (01:13:12):
And what's amazing, Jamie looking at trees, because I've studied them,
there's so many how shallow rooted they are.

Speaker 15 (01:13:18):
Yeah, yeah, very shallow. Yeah, it's surprising. Yeah, and pretty
much the roots go to where the last branches are
are sort of a rule of thumb. But yeah, it's
if you've had a lot of rain, they don't take
much to fall over. And now you can't you can't
tell you know, no, our risk can tell you that.

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Sometimes you can obviously fourth a roads and on a
bank and that sort of thing.

Speaker 4 (01:13:43):
But yeah, and the thing is too, it's a lot
easier to chop down the trees once they've fallen. Ow
they have to go to the packs and chop and
chop down all the trees I think are susceptible to
falling next time. Were they're expensive to chop down, aren't
they Because they're trees and they're tall, and that's a
big deal to haul someone up and chop it down up.
That's dangerous a.

Speaker 15 (01:14:04):
Yeah, yeah, And it's just it's sad too because where
where doesn't stop? Like Auckland's got rid of their true
protection and home a little while ago, and so many
of the trees that we would work on and look
after are gone.

Speaker 8 (01:14:17):
Now.

Speaker 15 (01:14:18):
Yeah, it's just like barren waste concrete. So yeah, Like
I believe people should be able to do what they
want on their own land, but at some point you've
got to keep the trees. We will need here to breathe.

Speaker 4 (01:14:32):
Yeah, I think the proper proper develops were cocker Hope
when they talk of those protections where it was heartbreaking
for Auckland.

Speaker 15 (01:14:38):
Oh yeah, because now what's there mates that are refusing
to do jobs because people are going, we just want
this two hundred years to hear a car and cut
down in our backyard. Yeah, oh, just in case the
law changes. We need to get rid of it now
so we can put a garage. It's just crazy and
so yeah, like you know, my friends that are ethical artists,

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they turned down those jobs. But some people, you know,
they've got their own whatever. They need money too so
that they'll go in and do it.

Speaker 4 (01:15:12):
Thought provoking. Good to talk, Jamie, Thank you for that.
Ten to ten someone has texted through Marcus Costa generates
its forty five k. Be interested to know what the
cost of insurance payout, stumping of milk and production, et cetera.
Animal care must be front of decisions. Come on fmg
fon Terra withst and milk, et cetera. Surely it's the eminence,

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the botto of the hill. Yet alone the cost of
insurance payout, this doesn't add up. Snow can fall and
use it any time of the year. I can recall
watching snowfall and Dunedin on Christmas Day of seventy five.
I've also seen snowfalling and settling for at least a
few hours in Tacklepaw in January nineteen eighty seven. The

(01:15:56):
nineteen n two snowfall affected ficturely the whole South. It
was in early September and certainly more acceptable as a
winter fall. The only two fore closed all roads had
passed over the Alps and left six or just on
the square and chrustchurch Cuddiama. Isn't this a great opportunity
for government to subsidize farmers into solar with battery storage.
It's a wind win with excess power being fed back

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into the gurge on grid and reducing draw on the
grid three six, five days of the year. Yeah, you
think probably soul of farming and farming itself would go
quite well together because you've got the cows beneath them,
or the sheep beneath them or beside them. That'd be
my title happen. And they've got all this need now

(01:16:39):
for data storage for the power. What's that about? Speaking
of fireworks, I get too sick on the smell, as
beautiful as they can be. As soon as I can spell,
I get nauseous, and more so than not likely threw up.
Since I was a child, I have been this way.
My mother used to take me displays. In every casion,

(01:17:00):
I'll be sick as a dog. My kids are now
the same. It's strange. So Phoebe seems to have some
sort of allergy to fireworks. Well, oh my god, John
is so stupid planting trees on roadside near power lines
on farms. Why when the trees are planted in city,
trees go all the way down Memorial Avin Kroschurch. Just lucky,
no wind, You can't plant the trees in the middle

(01:17:23):
of the paddic. Just dumb. Yeah, and I think probably
sheep particularly need trees, don't they. The Indian stockpile enough
fireworks to help rocket lab.

Speaker 12 (01:17:34):
Yep.

Speaker 4 (01:17:37):
My two trees at the bottom of my section back
onto reserve, nowhere near power lines or other houses. I
had several quotes to cut them down twenty thousand dollars,
which is a stretch. I've also been told by the
authorities I legally don't need to do anything to the
which I don't want to if I don't want to.
I do believe they have gotten too tall, though, just
in case the corner now makes assumption after my call

(01:17:57):
to you and I mentioned them in regards to the wind.
Forty five k's a lot, isn' to give? I mean,
it's expensive. Interesting caller, Jamie Hope he is still listening.
Question Marcus, is there a specific type of tree that
this has come to the winds than others, i e.
Shallow rooters. Yeah, well I think they all seem to

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be Macro's or yeah, I mean the trees. A beautiful
tree at the Clinton playground looks like a redwood or
a sequoir, A gorgeous tree, like a massive one. You'll
have seen it. Massive tree. It'll be one of the
trees of national significance. But yeah, that's gone. Massive tree

(01:18:44):
and a beautiful tree. You'd notice it. I'll see if
i'm Google what sort of tree it was, like a
redwood or a sequoia. Nice text from Frank. What interesting
text Marcus about the fireworks. I was put in Budapesta
nineteen forty three, who had gun fired till the end
of the war. Then more gun fired during the Revolution

(01:19:05):
of nineteen five fifty six. Then I escaped to Austria.
More gunfire on the border. I've been in his inno
since fifty seven. Fireworks going off as a bad memory.
Get rid of them and the people that import them.
Good programmers. Always thank you, Frank. Nice to hear from you. Frank,
how are you? Fifty seven seventy seven, eighty two eighty three.

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We are talking fireworks where we are with the whole
banning of them, it seems to the mood to ban
them seems to have gone. Have I got that right?
And also why have these dairy farmers not got generators?
How have they been so confident that their power supply
was secure? It's what surprised me. Oh, eight hundred and

(01:19:48):
eighty e taty eight past ten, Laurie, good evening.

Speaker 6 (01:19:53):
You're the Marcus.

Speaker 2 (01:19:54):
Yeah, you're talking about the acceptance of the fireworks in
it's well beyond guy Fox. Now, certainly, as you mentioned
d Whorley and Chinese New Year, which way I hear
in Palms North the speedway is quite near the middle
of town and quite often at the end of the

(01:20:15):
speedway there's a big fireworks display just about well, it
didn't seem to matter what time of year it.

Speaker 4 (01:20:23):
Is that you reheats for you. I mean, that's that's
that's part of the full beliefs as fireworks and.

Speaker 2 (01:20:31):
Yeah, yeah, and then the council they do them a
New Year, the New Year as well, you know, like
that the council building that's sort of like a on
some people call it. It was like an aircraft carrier
sitting in the middle of the square, but it used
to be that finally found some use for it. They

(01:20:52):
let fireworks off on the top of that. It's a
New Year's that and that's it's good visibility all around
the place.

Speaker 4 (01:21:00):
Well, it's the speedway in Parmerston North there.

Speaker 2 (01:21:03):
Well, it's quite close to the center. It's it's in
what was called the showgrounds. It's now called the Central
Trust Arena. Well, there's several arenas there.

Speaker 4 (01:21:13):
You Trust Arena is it? Is it your Rugby Stadium
as well?

Speaker 7 (01:21:17):
Yeah?

Speaker 16 (01:21:17):
Yeah?

Speaker 4 (01:21:18):
And speedway Is that that's a great idea.

Speaker 2 (01:21:22):
Oh yeah yeah. And they put an excellent show there.
It's it's pretty pretty confident at it. You know, they've
been and pride themselves. It's mostly you know, rockets that
go up way above the town, but there they've got
a good bang to them. I can I only live
a couple of blocks away. Basically we can pull the
curtains and and get a reasonable view of its smoke.

(01:21:47):
There's a whole lot of new townhouses built near the
speedway recently. I think I see people were complaining down there.

Speaker 19 (01:21:53):
But.

Speaker 4 (01:21:56):
They complain there about the noise from the speedway.

Speaker 2 (01:21:58):
Also, yeah, well I think they were, but I mean,
I don't think they've got much of a hearing because
they moved there. But I was a bit concerned when
you were saying that you were getting into cutting down
your micro carps that were on your property. Order fallen
over and it's it's pretty damn dangerous, you know. I

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agree that anything that's lying on under tension on the ground, Mate,
you've got to.

Speaker 4 (01:22:30):
When you say under tension, you mean leaning against, leaning
against defenses or the tension from.

Speaker 2 (01:22:35):
Where from from actually, because they are lying the weights
actually on some of the limbs on the ground.

Speaker 4 (01:22:41):
Yes they are. Yeah, that's that's there's a lot of weight.
There's a lot of weight on them.

Speaker 2 (01:22:45):
And if you cut cutting through, they can ei this,
you know, fly back up at you or you know
otherwise they can or go down on the gym saw.
But you know, I mean that's they really got a
hell of a kick. And I was you've really got
to have your shoot in the back doing that sort
of stuff. I don't know what size your what size
your chainsaw is. You said you were down at the

(01:23:07):
steel shop the other day, but have you got a
decent sized blade on it?

Speaker 7 (01:23:11):
Yeah?

Speaker 4 (01:23:11):
Look, I wouldn't know it was. It's certainly had. I
had a good day on the chain for I got
probably half of it done. It wasn't without it, It
wasn't without it's moments that perhaps Yeah, yeah, it's yeah,
I'm hearing what you're saying.

Speaker 2 (01:23:32):
You've got your chips and.

Speaker 4 (01:23:34):
Yeah, okay, yeah, your chips aren't going to hurt help
much when you're you know, something springs apple goes on
your foot. I've actually got steel, I've actually got.

Speaker 2 (01:23:45):
Oh, you've got you've got the whole works here? Do
you actually shot when you're in bladed?

Speaker 4 (01:23:50):
I'm not great at that. I'm not great at that yet.

Speaker 2 (01:23:54):
Yeah, I wasn't that sure are organized you were as
far as your handymoon stuff goes? All I've got there's
an old your skills as making key rings and stamping
numbers or them.

Speaker 4 (01:24:08):
Yeah, no, I don't know. Yeah, I think I think obviously, Yeah,
we don't really need you don't need to change for
that off only really is it on the gorse?

Speaker 11 (01:24:16):
Okay?

Speaker 2 (01:24:16):
Yeah yeah, yeah, but no, well no, very good. It's
the chain that'll be pretty heavy down at the stool
shop anyway, they.

Speaker 4 (01:24:25):
Were flat out. They were so many trees down you
wouldn't believe it.

Speaker 2 (01:24:29):
Yeah, it's been a long time as well. By the
sound of things, nice here for Laurie.

Speaker 4 (01:24:35):
Thank you, Sam. It's Marcus.

Speaker 9 (01:24:36):
Good evening, Yeah, hid Marcus. You know, I actually grew
up with fireworks. I love fireworks, you know, the the
Vesuvius and the Catherine Wheel and the rockets and yeah,
no I think that's great.

Speaker 4 (01:24:52):
But Catherine Wheel was good because you're now that to
a power pole, wouldn't you correct?

Speaker 9 (01:25:00):
And but I just worry that, you know, the the
fire department get a bit stressed, and you know, there's
a few injuries and things, and it just makes me
wonder why the government persists with with well, something that's
exciting but also can be destructive.

Speaker 20 (01:25:22):
Ah.

Speaker 4 (01:25:24):
Well, as I said earlier, As I said earlier, the
government want doesn't want to be in the habit habit
of banning anything.

Speaker 8 (01:25:32):
Yeah.

Speaker 9 (01:25:32):
But I mean if you look, if you look into
the history of Guy Fawks, well, well, from what I
can tell, wasn't it some guy that tried to bomb
British Parliament?

Speaker 11 (01:25:47):
Yeah?

Speaker 9 (01:25:48):
Yeah, and and and so I remember thirty years back
there used to be effigies of Guy Fawks on a
bonfire and basically I think, I think. You know, it's
like the governments of the day are warning people that
if they try and bomb governments, well, they're going to
get thrown on a pile of sticks with a matchless

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under them. It's like a warning that the government's using.
I think. And and basically Marcus siss Mike, and I've
just paid you back, idiot.

Speaker 4 (01:26:23):
Very poorly. Whatever that was, that'd be one of the
that's a revenge call. It's a it's a sketchy one.
I don't really understand what you're about. But that's good.
I thought your point was quite a good one. At
least people saying, say, why are we even celebrating him, Well,
of course they were celebrating him. The speedway is the

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only activity that pays its way at the arena. I
don't think it for good crowds not there, Palmerston. The
deforestation is still going on in the large forests of
the world. But Zaida was the worst place for defail
station where the world dollars trees were wiped out and
the seven eighteen hundreds. If the Cody tree were wiped out,

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we'd have a more stable climate. That's part of the world.
Marcus ree tree lines companies employ vegetation managers who can
issue cut and trim notices forcing landotice to trim at
risk trees. If they cause damage the network, they can

(01:27:30):
be liable. Perhaps the lines companies need to take action
and start action or vegetation managers to get proactive and
start issuing cut and trim notices. Fair enough talk if
you want to sixteen past ten oh eight hundred eighty
ten eighty ten eighteen. If you want to be a
part of the show, my name is Marcus. Welcome. We
are talking fireworks, also talking generators and what about all

(01:27:54):
these So maybe we need to hear from some of
the dairy farmers and the situations they've got. It can
drive something from the tractor they called a PTO or something.
That's not a new thing to me. But I don't
know what the circumstances a lot of these farms are.
But ah, but generators do seem to be the order
of the day. But yes, I imagine for some of

(01:28:17):
them it will take a long long time for the
right Lines company to get the power back up to
a robust way. I'm sure they'll all get back on
with temporary fixes, but the permit solution will be a
lot longer. And the cell phone towers are also a
bit of a worry, so many of those are down.
But yeah, the tree damage in the South, if you
drive around, they're like up through Kluther the trees, it's unbelievable.

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And these are big trees, big big trees that have gone,
massive trees. So that's what we're about tonight. If you
want to talk eight hundred eighty ten eighty and nine
two nine two detect Marcus till twelve looking forward to
what you've got to say twenty past ten. There's anything
else you want to talk about, feel free to come through.

(01:29:01):
All the lines there are free. And if you've got
breaking news where you are from around the world, let
us know be good to hear from you. Fireworks, where
are we about that? On that guy rang up Jay
before the nine o'clock about pets and getting pets that
don't like fireworks used to it, the thunderjackets and stuff,

(01:29:26):
compression suits, medication, desensitization. None of it sounds good, doesn't
But that might be a solution. You've got something to
say about that. That's of good too. That's of good.
That is good to hear from you, oh, eight hundred
eighty ten eighty Oh, Marcus, great convo earlier with the

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individual regarding his staffy and annual fireworks. If he is
listening still, here was my approach many years ago, when
my ridgeback was a pup. I decided to try a
routine of playing you YouTube videos from a lounge TV
every Sunday on maximum value for roughly four months leading
up to its first Guy Fawks experience. I'd wait for

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the dog to fall asleep before playing fireworks sound effects
on loop for thirty minutes for him to get used
to loud bangs. He would sleep right through it. I
then decided to take it up a notch and incorporate
sound effects sound effect videos of civil defense sirens, diamond explosions,
point police sirens, etc. For fourteen straight years during thunder

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and fireworks displays. He slept through it. My crazy idea worked.
Never understood why fireworks are so popular. Yeah, maybe the
big shows are cool, but when you see them once,
you've seen them all the same old time annoying. As
for the people that have worked at four am the
next I don't think it's the I don't think it's

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it's the whole drama around it, the smells, the excitement.
I mean, obviously you've got to realize you've got to
stay up to Dart for to happen. So kids first
experience of five weeks, so they get to stay up
late when there's not many things that happens for you say,
you get to stay up late, and then of course
you know you're in the neighbor's backyard. There's probably beers,
people are in good spirits. I mean, some ways you

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could call it the great community neighborhood festival of New Zealand,
families getting together in the big yard. There's no there's
nothing creepy. There's or not I shouldn't say religion's creepy,
but there's no sort of there's nothing morbid about death
or anything like that. There's or there's no there's no
preciousness or ritual. It's quite a free and equable kind

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of a thing. That'd be my take on it. It's
a great thing, but you know there's people's pets and
they get they have a harrowing time for it. So
there doesn't seem to be is the demand now to
ban it as there once was. You might want to
talk on that because for a while there for all

(01:32:10):
money it was gone, But I'm not hearing that anymore.
By the way, the Woolworths, souper markets and warehouses have
banned selling fireworks, which is just complete posturing virtue signaling,
because they sell smokes, they sell booze, which kills millions globally,
which kills thousands of New Zealand. Yet they have the

(01:32:33):
smugness to ban fireworks, which kind of reeks of hypocrisy
to me. So yeah, and they reckon the market's very
highly regulated. Now you can't buy them for long, you

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can't buy the big ones, you can't let them off
in parks. Well, actually that's not quite true. It's Auckland
and Wellington that have banned the use of them on
public spaces or beaches and restrict them to private places.
But that's the problem a lot of people now to
their backyards. So what are they supposed to do? Yeah,
warehouse said, we no longer feel fileworks have a place

(01:33:16):
on our shelves. That was the beginning of the INFI
and that's when they started going struggling. I think with
their shops and I think you reap what you're sew.
Then there was some pit shop got involved with a petition.
They got animals to sign the petition. Thought that was
a bit weird too, and that was just an overseas

(01:33:37):
pit shop trying to get market share. I thought, that's
my take, But you might want to say something about that.
You might agree or disagree. By the way, SPCA said,
thirteen petitions have been presented to Parliament in the past,
but no parliamentarian wants to interfere with people's civil rights,

(01:33:58):
so they are loads to do anything about it. National
won't and I think label will either. And people go
on about the public displays. We're always at the public
displays have always been extremely They have been a damp squib.
I've always thought they were extremely poor, the public displays.
It's twenty five past ten. I'll get in touch people.

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All the lines are free if you want to come through.
Hen til twelve. It's Monday. Feels like it's Tuesday. Feels
like Monday. Is that right? And as I always say,
at this time of the year, is nothing as long
as a short week. You over compensate. You think it's
going to go very slowly. They come about Wednesday, it
feels like Friday. You feeling that's the situation that I
certainly am. But if you want to talk about five

(01:34:42):
weeks or generators, that's the main topic for tonight. Anything
else you want to talk about, that's fine by me.
I don't mind. I'm not fussed up topic agnostic. But yeah,
I could just say from where I sit that there's
not the strong anti fireworks feeling there once was. I
feel sorry in some ways because they had a head
to steam up with all these petitions, thinking it was

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going to get banned, and now the government's sounds like
they've got no desire what at all to bannit, what
it all at all to bannet. So I think they've
probably given false hope. So that's what we are talking about.

(01:35:25):
Oh wait A hundred eighty ten eighty nine nine to text, Yeah,
anything else, feel free to come through. Keep those texts going.
Good texts tonight. A lot of people saying prime time
for birds nesting unlike in the UK, and extremely good

(01:35:48):
reason not have morons terrifying bird parents trying to have
a family in peace. Someone says, I think China knows
how to use fireworks properly, and don't call it, Guy Fawkes.
Someone says, what a loser idiot in favor of fireworks, Marcus,

(01:36:09):
great neighborhood, my way. We had rockets home to our
house and Rufe said to stay home with hose that
ready banned them. Nothing on November fifth needs celebrating. It's
quite polarizing, isn't it, Marcus. Could be memories of Roman
Campbell's Vesuvius and those screaming ones. Dad lighted them, and
friends and neighbors on Dick cheers on the back lawn
totally agree with the family neighborhood vibe. Another note, The

(01:36:33):
Top of ice Cream is having a comeback for its
ninetieth birthday. Had one the other day, delicious. Someone said
he's probably deafened his poor dog and that's why he
slept tho mean on the dog Playing fireworks during the
night quite interesting, though, Here'll twelve you want to be
part of it. Midnight till midnight manimer Is, Marcus welcome

(01:36:55):
anything else you want to go on about two, but
particularly generators in the If you have got situation with
your power, you can tell us about too. If you're
still without power, that'd be good to hear from you.
Be here here the end of tim Beverage along from twelve.
There's something different you want to talk about tonight, feel
free to get in touch, not fuss what it is tonight.

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But if you're on a talk call, I mean, if
you're repaired with your text, we want to call about fireworks.
One way or another's to be hearing from your your
argument on this, Chris says Marcus. I'm a dog owner.
I feel for those areas that have people letting off
fireworks on multiple nights. I say, Guy Fawkes and New
Year's Eve, all other dates banned by the way. I
don't think you can let off fireworks on New Year's Eve.

(01:37:36):
I will thought that would be illegal. Public displays are
usually extremely poor in general. Lack luster may be more
appropriate for the airwaves. So they didn't say, yeah, there's
a pea word in there. Over here in Bali there
are hundreds of roadside stalls seeing them during festival periods.
Allow the private displays banding. That makes the same amount

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of sense as the labels saying do not drink on
bottles of bleach. Yeah, I'm hearing you. That's what we're
on about. Twenty eight away from eleven. If you want
to come through, there's any other news bring that to
our attention. Oh, eight hundred eighty ten eighty Tuesday, free
for all. Monday feels like Tuesday. Tuesday feels like Monday. Cyclone.

(01:38:23):
Hang on, I don't think it's got a name. Hurrican Melissa.
You shall switch to TV to said in because there
no doubt be a lot of so Hurricane Melissa is
making landfall on Jamaica. This will be the strongest hurricane
they've ever experienced. Three dead already extraordinary, extraordinary wins there

(01:38:51):
and the other thing too. You might have seen the
baseball tonight that went for eighteen innings, unbelievably long show,
so you might want to talk about that also eight
hundred eighty ten eighty and text Bridget, this is Marcus.

Speaker 6 (01:39:11):
Welcome, Hi Mac.

Speaker 3 (01:39:13):
You don't mate good Thanks Bridget.

Speaker 16 (01:39:16):
I'll tell you what. I'm so happy they've bought those
toppers back there so much more than they were.

Speaker 4 (01:39:21):
They made them more pointed. Is that what they've done.

Speaker 16 (01:39:24):
No, they're flatten them. They're the same flatten number. I
love them and I ate mine. In about five points.

Speaker 4 (01:39:33):
Could you just describe to you what is the outside
of the top. Is it a jelly or is it
like a fruit? Pulp.

Speaker 16 (01:39:38):
It's a it's a crunchy, not crunchy, but it's a
crispy strawberry coating. So it's like like a more form slushy.

Speaker 3 (01:39:49):
Okay, it's delicious.

Speaker 4 (01:39:51):
Were they always just strawberry?

Speaker 2 (01:39:54):
Yep?

Speaker 6 (01:39:55):
Sure?

Speaker 4 (01:39:55):
Where Okay, good one I go. Are they already?

Speaker 16 (01:39:59):
Yeah, they are back. They're probably about a third of
the three times at the price they actually originally were.
But that's how it goes.

Speaker 4 (01:40:07):
That's the world. Fear enough.

Speaker 16 (01:40:08):
Yeah, I know. I just wanted to have a quick
check to you about fireworks. Great in New Zealand, it's
actually not illegal to let fireworks off twenty four to
seven through six five really is yep, one hundred percentro
The only thing is you're actually it's not illegal to
stop parlom, but you are not meant to stop parlem

(01:40:32):
and you can only buy them on those few days.

Speaker 4 (01:40:34):
Yeah there's four days. There's four days out there. I
think it's tomorrow. Yeah, yeah, next year, I think yep.

Speaker 16 (01:40:40):
Yeah, So it is actually not legal to let fireworks off.
You can let them off every second of every day
of this year. I'm not get in trouble for it, ye'll,
plus the.

Speaker 3 (01:40:48):
Name results, but.

Speaker 16 (01:40:50):
Yeah, it's not illegal to do it, and it's it
was one thing that I found out. I was absolutely
blind away when I found that out. I mean, I'm
not against that. I am against it, but I'm not
against it. Our dog we had a gymanship and Collie,
and he loved it. He loved the lights, so he
wasn't worry about the noise.

Speaker 3 (01:41:04):
He loved the lights.

Speaker 16 (01:41:06):
And it's just going back a fair a few years though.
But but yeah, you know, you can do what you
want with them when you want. The people At at
nine o'clock in the morning, when you're having your breakfast
on a Sunday morning and there's fireworks going off, you
can't find them because you can't see them because it's
too bright.

Speaker 4 (01:41:21):
So you can buy as mini as you like, and
you can go on about them for as long you
can fither off for as long as you like.

Speaker 16 (01:41:27):
Yes, exactly. And it was understood that it's actually illegal
to stop Parliament being that they are they're like a
like a T and T destination. But as well as
they are sadly stored, goes your life. And that's why
people get so upset about it. And I understand it completely,
you know, there's nothing worse than like my dad used
to do the the replacement buses for other train replacements

(01:41:53):
for Richards and Auckland, and he would be on the
six o'clock schedule for Auckland from Swanson and he'd be
up to two o'clock in the morning because he couldn't
do anything about the noise, couldn't do anything aout the
works because it's news. Yeah, and you know any other time,
but he's just working, mate. You just you know, you
ring those control things, you ring those control about anything

(01:42:15):
else and they're on your ass straight away. But anything that, oh,
we really can't do much about it, especially fireworks.

Speaker 4 (01:42:25):
From what you're saying, they probably can't.

Speaker 16 (01:42:28):
They can't because you know, you can't work out where
they're coming from. You probably could, but then you've got
to prove.

Speaker 12 (01:42:32):
It and it's just a waste of time.

Speaker 3 (01:42:33):
But you know, it's different.

Speaker 16 (01:42:35):
But yeah, it's a little bit of a little bit
of a People love them to a certain extent, but
then you've got to realize that people have got like
the other persons, people have got to work, you know,
So where's the balance. I don't think there's a balance
in life anymore.

Speaker 4 (01:42:49):
I would. Yeah, I work at night, someone around when
there's fireworks, so it's not really a thing for me.
And I've moved from where I was where I as
a child, but it's certainly my feel that there's much
much fewer fireworks being led off on guy forks with
is that your Is it the sense you get.

Speaker 16 (01:43:09):
I'm in the same place I was born in Breda
and Westalkland. I'm in the same place, just around the
corner from where mom and dad's house was. And I actually,
as far as fireworks night is concerned, at starts earlier
in the day because like when we were little kids
and my dad I do them as soon as early
as they possibly could, so we could watch them with

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the ones on the wheels that dead attached to the
the washing line and all that sort of stuff.

Speaker 5 (01:43:36):
But they do.

Speaker 16 (01:43:36):
They seem to start a lot earlier and they go
a lot later and then it'll just be days and
days and days. So yeah, I don't think.

Speaker 4 (01:43:43):
It's changed, because Westalkland does feel like think an, I
don't think it's changed. West Talkland does feel like the
spiritual home of fireworks, doesn't it.

Speaker 16 (01:43:51):
We're the spiritual home of everything.

Speaker 2 (01:43:52):
You know that.

Speaker 4 (01:43:56):
I don't think you're wrong, bridget thanks for that. There
we go, Old Bogan's run. There we go, listen to that.
There we go here. Well there's always this you al
on Great North Throw. I mean, there's your fireworks the
whole way. We have you pop up container shops full
of them. Georgia. Thank you. Here we go. There's a
good reason phone call, wasn't it. I think guy fawk

(01:44:23):
should be held on winter time, no far danger. It's
darker earlier for families, that's right, But it's not the
right time. That's the trouble. We adhere to it. I
think in Australia it's illegal in most states. Some states
have it for Australia day, I think. But mind you,

(01:44:46):
they're tender dry, aren't they. It's not the same there.
We'll go up and smoke twenty two away from eleven.
Also this and generators. If you're still still without power,
let us know how that's working out for you. But yeah,
why have all those places not got generators? Is that?

Speaker 14 (01:45:05):
I mean?

Speaker 4 (01:45:05):
Should everyone have? Is it just common sense? Now? Probably
in South and the power network has been quite good
for a long time. But yeah, this was one hell
of a storm from twenty away from eleven Marcus, I

(01:45:26):
would think most farmers would have a generator. We have
one and we live at a well apparently not in south,
but a lot of them don't. Good evening, Marcus, how
you're doing? I might be out of subject. The Melbourne
Cup is running this Tuesday for the November Good luck
to anyone who is beating. That means betting the last

(01:45:51):
color is right. We had neighbors across the road whore
that fireworks off randomly is four times a year. I'm
guessing they were set off for birthdays and this happened
for at least five straight years. My dogs don't mind.
Both would sleep right through the neighbors fireworks, but as
we live by Hagley Park and Krostch, the dogs would
stay at the larger fireworks and bright lights from Brahm Street.
They were never scared. Fireworks seem to go around at

(01:46:15):
all hours and why fit to lower hut. That's what
people are saying about that the lines are free. It's
eighteen to eleven. Also to about generators. Anything else you
want to mention tonight, I mean that's always the case,
isn't it really? Anything you want to mention? The dogs

(01:46:37):
near Chernobyl are turning blue. Looks like news in and
won't meet its smoke free target. It'll be because the
current government wheeled it all back. So the target of
having fewer than five percent of people smoking by the
end of the year looks likely to be met. There's

(01:46:58):
measles that is I think there's eleven cases now, So yeah,
that seems to now be spreading, community spreading. I wait
hundred eighty ten eight. If you want to talk about
these topics, Orf, there's anything different you want to talk about,
get in touch. I wait, hundred eighty ten eighty anything

(01:47:22):
else you want to mention, or you might just want
to chat. This time of the night, you might have
seen some of the damage from the storm. I'm pretty
into that, So get in touch eight hundred eighty ten
eighty and nine two nine two to text. Let me
think what else I can get you going on tonight?

(01:47:43):
How is your long weekend? By would anyone do anything interesting?
Be curious about that. If you've got reports from the
long weekend from the fray, will we do a Melbourne
Cup sweep steak? I don't think so. By the way,
I've been asked to the office Christmas party this year,
which is fine, but I got the text through today

(01:48:05):
that everyone that goes to the party has to bring
a twenty dollars Secret Santa present, which in my instant
thought was, oh, heck, okay, I'm not so keen to
go now, not the amount, but gee, I just couldn't be.
I mean, yeah, I'm not one of those. I'm a
Secret Sander skeptic. I don't like it. I'd rather just

(01:48:31):
go for a Christmas Yeah. I think it's actually made
what appeared to be a nice relaxt day slightly more
stressful for some of us that arender Secret Sanders. So
oh well, it's not yeah, I mean, you know, you
just end up buying junk from the two dollars shop
or a ten dollars shop or whatever it is. So yeah,
but anyway, we're back on that at Secret sand To
time again, just so you know. And twenty dollars this

(01:48:53):
year also fifteen to eleven thirty away from eleven hit
l twelve ten beverage from Midnight. Keep those textang calls
going through Category five Hurricane Militia. Melissa is less in Jamaica.
The landfall will be an hour's a number of people
are dead already. This will be catastrophic and life threatening.
They are the conditions. Gosh, you it always staggers me

(01:49:15):
how close all those Caribbean islands are to each other
and how close they are to America. But it's still
is Category five and it's going to be banging in
Montego Bay. It's about to happen, and that's happening within hours.

(01:49:37):
It'll be after sunrise. I'm not quite sure what time
in the state, says, but I'll tell you what are
They're going to be a tired baseball teams tomorrow because
I started playing at one. They finished it playing at
about well that was one New Zealand time. Early time
was about five, finished at midnight. They're back playing tomorrow
after a six hour game. It was an extraordinary forgot
to watch that one. So yeah, you missed that, well
I missed half of it, but was something worth going on. Jeez,

(01:50:05):
you're a said s Marcus. Don't be so tight and
spend twenty It's not the money, it's just having to
sit around. And I mean, I don't know anyone in
the workplace, so to buy gifts for them, I wouldn't
be knowing what to buy, and it'd be the uncomfortableness
have been given something that you're going to pretend that
you and oh, no secret set for me. I'm sorry,
I don't think. I don't think there's anything mean spirited
about that. It's just I think a thing that's done

(01:50:27):
its dash. I'd rather give buy a goat for Africa
or give money to the food. But if if that's
what we're going to do. If yeah, no, I yeah,
I am, And I'm sure there's probably a lot of us,
almost half the population would be in a similar similar situation.

(01:50:47):
There'd be my take on that one exactly. We're in
the country where the yellow legged hornets found. Gosh, where's
your own Google? I can tell you if you want.
I think that I presume it was found that they
normally found in the north shore of Walkland. Aren't they
where all the pests go. I'll tell you exactly where
it was, since you've kindly asked Auckland. Aucklands have been

(01:51:16):
put on alert for hornets after a queen was found
building a nest on the north shore. It's always the
north shore, so the first time you're green a queen
yellow legged hornet has been found in this country. The
nest in glenn Field has been removed by biosecurity officers
of the address. You said, the addresses in the immediate
area where a threat of a colony establishing. So two

(01:51:38):
male hornets were found earlier in Grafton and Albany, so
it's in glenn Field that's where you want to look
out for them. So that's that. Also, I too, am
a secret Sanders skeptic. If you have to, what about
a quilo of butter that decks and I'll take two
lots of butter. That's great. In fact, what Vanessa always

(01:51:58):
takes is is eggs, because eggs arey sort out and
I've found a new place where the happy hens out.
My toda. We stopped on the way back. That's some
very good sized eggs, which I'm excited about. That was
the That wasn't the particle that was on our two
very good weekend the way. If I might say, Richard,

(01:52:21):
this is Marcus, welcome.

Speaker 7 (01:52:23):
Hello, Marcus. Hi, Richard, I'm with you on the Secret
Center thing. Oh my god, I mean I don't know
what it is. You get, you get an event that
involves about thirty people, twenty to thirty people and three
of those people feel they have to choreograph, whereas you know,

(01:52:43):
people like you and me just want to go along
and find somebody you have to talk to. You that's interesting,
evil people at the tour and you use up so
much time on this rubbish. It's just crazy.

Speaker 4 (01:52:56):
And then and then the rumors sort of fill with
wrapping paper and also too, I think I was running
a work if as the boss, I would be concerned
about because I don't know. I imagine that people can buy
things that are a slight dig of the person, you know,

(01:53:16):
it's a form of harassment. They could buy some of
the diver weight, you know, they and I'm sure there's
people feel they're being targeted and a lighthearted but sort
of a not a bullying way. But it's supposed to
be funny but misses the markway with their presence.

Speaker 11 (01:53:35):
Yeah.

Speaker 7 (01:53:35):
Well, I just can't figure out what the objective of
it is because nobody is.

Speaker 4 (01:53:41):
Subject What is subjective? Is it supposed to be a
crowd pleaser? A conversation started before the booze kicks in.

Speaker 7 (01:53:50):
No, I think it's the objective is to fulfill the
personality of people that just feel they have to you know,
create something or choreogress something it's about it's about to
say those people and we all buy into it. I'm
a real you know. I mean, I'm a good natured person.
I think that you know, I don't hold back, you

(01:54:11):
know when I comes to secrets and I just say,
it's a load of bloody bullshit. You know what.

Speaker 4 (01:54:20):
Well, especially some of us that are sort of quite
that don't love gatherings anyway, we're quite nervous about them
because we're not good with small talk. And suddenly the
alarm bells go o. Jeepest, creepers. I'm back in there again.
After you know, I'm going to be given something. How
am I going to react? What if I don't like?
What if the person I buy it for doesn't. It
just brings a lot of tension before you go to
the event.

Speaker 7 (01:54:40):
It does huge amount of tention.

Speaker 12 (01:54:42):
I mean, and.

Speaker 7 (01:54:44):
You know, like I don't have a problem you know,
striking up conversations people and it's it's incredibly enriching. You
meet some person that you know, like sometimes the last
person you'd think, who's got a fascinating life story. Yeah,
that's what I want to hear, you know, I want
to hear what you know when I haven't when you're
in a group like that. But it's it's a weird thing,

(01:55:08):
but there you go.

Speaker 4 (01:55:09):
Yeah, I think it might be right twenty bucks. It
might be a dozen eggs, a pound of butter, and
at least at least they can make themselves an omelet
when they got home.

Speaker 7 (01:55:15):
Yeah, well, everyone brings something to give away to the
city mission or something if they felt they needed to
give yea because you know, I don't have I can't
imagine in my house I have anything that I got
in a secret center.

Speaker 4 (01:55:29):
No one the everthing. Oh well, funny should mention that
that puzzle on I got that It's changed my life. Yeah,
it's true though, isn't it? Because they normally people have
brought things in a panic and it's something at the
at one of those joke shops or those gift shops. Terrible.

Speaker 5 (01:55:46):
Yeah, yeah, it's.

Speaker 4 (01:55:48):
Never sort of anything that's home crafted. Is it okay?
Takes some fire? Would I appreciate what you've said, Richard,
Thank you for that. What's worse is dirty sanded where
people are allowed to steal your gift. Secret tender is
a waste of space grown people buying crep things for
each other, most of which UN's up in the bin. Marcus,

(01:56:09):
if you must a secret sand a gift, how about
a putet of cherries? I'm with you on secret sand
a cringely waste of time and money and unnecessary awkwardness.
I too, am a secret Sander skeptic. If you have to,
what about a kilo of butter?

Speaker 3 (01:56:26):
Yeah?

Speaker 4 (01:56:26):
I'm pleased about that. I feel vindicated. We look when
that party is now? Won't be this week? Do come through?
My name is Marcus. Welcome head on midnight. What have
you got? Eight hundred and eighty ten eighty. We are
talking about a bit of everything, but it's mainly fireworks

(01:56:51):
and generators and secret Sanders are there? It be a
one topic night, but it's a three topic night. Thursday
the sixth, the day after Guy Fawkes. Wow, I can't wait.

(01:57:12):
At least it's a good time I can go. It's
midday till three, perfect for me. Last for an hour?
I reckon, Hey, what's happening to people? For the final
hour hour? What have you got? Hittil midnight? The storm's
about to hit. The storm's about to hit Jamaica. The
tornado it's been a tremendous game of baseball today. I

(01:57:36):
thought it was going to be two days for the
next match, blindly because I thought today was Tuesday. So
the Blue Jays won the first one with a landslide,
the second one was close to Dodgers won, and the
third waste was close. It went to nineteen because you
can't have a draw in baseball. It's normally nine innings.
After nine, it was level well after seven, it was

(01:57:57):
level on five all after eighteen overs, after eighteen innings.
It took it that long for to get a result,
and there was a walk off home run right at
the end. So that's a situation there. So the Dodgers
are up to one, but they have Tani who is
the greatest baseball player that's ever played, and he was
unbelievable today. I don't know how many home runs he got.

(01:58:21):
I think it was three or four, which is unbelievable.
I think it's a record. It was a very good match.
Good evening, Nigel, This is Marcus.

Speaker 21 (01:58:31):
Good evening there, and Ni George, your old friend from Dunedin.

Speaker 4 (01:58:35):
No, my name is Marcus, your Nigel.

Speaker 21 (01:58:39):
Yeah, sorry Marcus. Marcus. Now did you get the storm
on the Monday prior to the big blow on Thursday
last week.

Speaker 4 (01:58:48):
No, I think the storm prior was Tuesday, Nigel.

Speaker 21 (01:58:54):
That was Monday because it was our rubbish day and
I remember there was a lot of rubbish blowing around
in North Dunedin. The wheely bins were blowing over because
they didn't have to rub the bends on them. Some
of them might have.

Speaker 4 (01:59:08):
I'm sure it was Tuesday.

Speaker 21 (01:59:12):
Oh, you might have got it later and the cag
on the twenty first, Now it was Monday because yeah,
and then we got it again on Thursday.

Speaker 4 (01:59:19):
But Nigel, would you be prepared to be proven wrong
on that?

Speaker 21 (01:59:25):
Well, I'm to Need and I'm talking about Dan and
you might have got it the day later.

Speaker 4 (01:59:30):
The normally normally it comes up from there. What was
the What day was the Tuesday?

Speaker 21 (01:59:38):
Yeah, it happened on the Monday and Dneed and you
might have got it on the Tuesday. You might have
got harder wines on the Tuesday. And giggle you sure though, Yep,
I'm positive.

Speaker 4 (01:59:51):
But I worry about people that are so positive because
you're all You've got all tightened with bin day, haven't you.

Speaker 21 (01:59:58):
Yeah, Well it was there curbside collection day in North
Toneda and then when I went out for a walk
off for bloody, I've never seen so much rubbish lying
around North dun Eden. And you can't blame it on
the students. No, it wasn't all the student's fault.

Speaker 4 (02:00:19):
Yeah, I'm just sure it was Yeah, I was sure
it was Dan and sure it was Tuesday.

Speaker 21 (02:00:26):
Anyway, can you anyway, can you google it.

Speaker 4 (02:00:30):
Or someone'll let me know. But yeah, it doesn't matter,
it doesn't matter. But yeah, yeah, but the weather on
Tuesday wasn't bad, but Thursday was terrible.

Speaker 21 (02:00:40):
Thursday, Well, Thursday, the winds blew only hard and aneeding
for half an hour and branches come down. I never
saw any trees get blown down, eyes out in that
weather was full on storm force winds and rain, and
I saw branches coming down damaging cars. I didn't see

(02:01:03):
anyone get with my naked eye get blowing over or anything,
which I did see on someone smart on some person
getting blown over. And Wellington, it was.

Speaker 4 (02:01:13):
Incredible that that was frightening to watch.

Speaker 21 (02:01:18):
Did you see that? What about the footage of the
man that got hit by the branch in Mount Victoria, Wellington,
And did you see footage of that? But that would
have been more frightening to see, you, wouldn't it.

Speaker 4 (02:01:32):
Oh well, hang on, hang on, that's a sensitive thing
to say. It was the No one would have broadcast
footage of that. It was the footage of that, Nigel.

Speaker 21 (02:01:39):
I don't know. I don't know.

Speaker 4 (02:01:40):
I wouldn't make light of that. That was tragic.

Speaker 21 (02:01:43):
Yeah, well, there could have been someone there with a
smartphone recording it. I don't know.

Speaker 4 (02:01:48):
But no, no news site would would have published that.
I thought was marginal to publish that woman blowing into
the wind. I thought that was wrong also because it
was frightening to watch.

Speaker 21 (02:01:58):
Well, you can get away with broadcasting more on social
media the mainstream media, can you?

Speaker 4 (02:02:05):
Yeah, but I think I don't think. I don't necessarily
think that's a good thing. Well, the reason I was
asking about that, I wonder if people doing it because
there's a lot of a lot of footage from vacagole.
There's a lot a lot of people putting out AI
generated footage too, which can muddage the walls even more.

Speaker 21 (02:02:19):
Yeah. Yeah, so yeah, so a lot of the stuff
you see on social media, you don't know whether it's
true or not. That if you see it, Yeah, which
is a worry. It is a worry. Whereas mainstream media
they would go through it with a pine cone. Would

(02:02:43):
they to see if it was authentic with may.

Speaker 4 (02:02:46):
Oh, absolutely, you'd hope.

Speaker 8 (02:02:48):
So mm hmmm.

Speaker 21 (02:02:51):
Well, they have their own cameramen and they get their
professional cameramen and if they put AI in their pictures
and get found out, they'd get fired.

Speaker 4 (02:03:02):
If you're a heritage media or print or anything like
that and we're putting an or TV, you're putting an AI,
it'd be a career end if if you got found out,
it would be incredibly inquibly dangerous. By the way, Christie,
it was the Winni day last week was Benday Monday,
So thanks Nigel, you were right. Jeff. It's Marcus.

Speaker 6 (02:03:22):
Good evening, Yeah, good evening, Marcus. How you doing good?

Speaker 4 (02:03:25):
Jeff?

Speaker 6 (02:03:26):
I have to agree with that guy there about the Bens.
The Benz are a bloody disaster. This morning when the
score had all gone, it was gusting probably between fifty
and sixty some of the gusts, added Man and Darie Fratt.
The Benz were going in all directions, mate, and talk
about rubbish. It's all over the show. Who picks it up?

(02:03:48):
Not a man.

Speaker 4 (02:03:49):
I think what needs to happen is councils need a
more effective way to be able to counsel cancel, cancel
bin days at short notice because you can't cancel them
through the radio or the paper because not everyone listens
to that, or the paper's too slow, the radio doesn't work,
the website phone yeah, but phone mate, But Jeff, I

(02:04:12):
think those tech services are like twenty cents to every person,
So I think it's expensive to send texts out. So
if it's twenty, if there's if there's twenty thousand, like
an in Vicago with three thousand households at twenty cents each,
that's probably four thousand dollars.

Speaker 6 (02:04:30):
There is nothing compet to the rubber sets all over
the streets.

Speaker 4 (02:04:34):
Yeah, but people don't want to up. But people don't
want their rates. But people, Yeah, I just think there
needs to be an instant way. There needs to be
an app that counsels have that gives you an alerdic.
But but yeah, they need to add to cancelor cancelor quickly.
I agree entirely with you.

Speaker 6 (02:04:49):
I've got I've got sidetracked. That's not what I ring up.

Speaker 14 (02:04:52):
Even better, I'm sorry.

Speaker 6 (02:04:55):
Yeah, Aidan Smith, who we all know, anyone's there by
person knows there's a reasonably intelligent man. I think that's
my assumption.

Speaker 4 (02:05:07):
Will It would be his assumption too.

Speaker 6 (02:05:10):
I think well and and Bruce Russell, they're both in
a similar category. You're all good, you're all good in
different ways. But having said that, Lady Smith problemsized forty
years ago what was going to happen if we didn't
follow the line that he sort of suggested. And I've

(02:05:33):
been watching and listening and observing.

Speaker 4 (02:05:36):
What what did he predict?

Speaker 6 (02:05:39):
Well, he predicted the downturn of New Zealand if we
follow this ridiculous line of well, it starts off in
the school.

Speaker 4 (02:05:53):
I had to say to you if even a broken
clock is right twice a day. But yeah, yeah, in.

Speaker 6 (02:06:00):
Mind, that's not what they're coming up for war either.
The shadow, the shadow needs saving, right because the government
had that bullet that knocking over like everything else they
knock over. The fifty year olds have got no, they've
got nothing. They don't hold any what's the word, They

(02:06:21):
don't hold any passion for anything that's old. Chuck it
in the bent, smash it up. Which is quite sad
because all of our stuff in Ugand that used to
be belonged to but belongs to the people, and it's
the history of the people gets destroyed or can harve
board one of the classics, the old tugs, the old fairies.

(02:06:43):
You know, these things could be saved and just like
the bloody trains in Melbourne, they become icons. They already icons,
but they just get destroyed. And I'm over it. I'm
sick of it. We get fifty year old condemning. You know,
the big crane we had down there, the floating crane,
the steam crane. I wanted to go on by, wanted

(02:07:06):
to go on board and have a look and just
assess the situation and get and get the thing going again.

Speaker 4 (02:07:14):
Okay, Jeff, Okay, So you're everything old thing to be saved.

Speaker 6 (02:07:18):
Right, No, I want to.

Speaker 4 (02:07:22):
Is a question for you. Yeah, how many steam trains
do you think New Zealand should be running in.

Speaker 6 (02:07:30):
At least ten?

Speaker 4 (02:07:32):
Why?

Speaker 6 (02:07:34):
Well, why not? At how many old people live in
New Zealand thousands? How many people getting older live in
New Zealand thousands? When you come to tourism, steam is
a tourism. I'm getting into tourism. Steam is a tourism.
What's the word it attracts people?

Speaker 4 (02:07:57):
Oh yeah, I don't think it does. I think I think,
well that's up to you.

Speaker 6 (02:08:02):
See that's you, that's your thought, and you're like the
other guys that I spoke to the other night, the
guy I can't remember his name, but he doesn't let
you have an opinion.

Speaker 4 (02:08:14):
If you've got an opinion, I'm just disagreeing with you.

Speaker 14 (02:08:18):
Disagree.

Speaker 4 (02:08:19):
I think I think there's attraction with rail, but I
think steam rail is not a great tourist during It
takes a lot of people to run, it's expensive, it's
heavy on tracks. I don't think it's a great attraction.

Speaker 6 (02:08:32):
I can I can run. I can run a steam
steam train from here from Auckland to Wellington, or get
a better still, go from Carwaka up north the Bay
of Islands all the way to Wellington, all the way across.

Speaker 4 (02:08:47):
I don't think the line is open between Cower Karen
Fungada at the moment.

Speaker 6 (02:08:51):
Well let's get it open, let's get there.

Speaker 4 (02:08:54):
You said you could, You said you could run a
train from there. We you can't.

Speaker 6 (02:08:59):
I've said I can organize. I can do it tomorrow
with Mainland main Line trains. I've done it.

Speaker 4 (02:09:07):
Before, but it's broken.

Speaker 6 (02:09:09):
I used to. I set up, I set up and
run the dB train to National Park.

Speaker 4 (02:09:15):
Yeah, okay, what did you actually ring up to talk about?

Speaker 18 (02:09:18):
You?

Speaker 6 (02:09:20):
I rang up to save the and I can save
the the shadow Okay, the shadow down and you know
that may will it? Yes, we can take that on
and we can do the whole venture. We have got
the dear, We've got the body.

Speaker 4 (02:09:38):
Who's were you're talking big? Who's we?

Speaker 6 (02:09:43):
Okay? Behind me? I've got a whole heap of all
structural engineers, civil engineers, drainage engineers, wastewater engineers. I've got
all these guys from the Ministry of Work.

Speaker 4 (02:09:58):
This is for your company.

Speaker 6 (02:10:00):
I'm starting up a brand new company. We won't call
it the Ministry of Works. We'll call it something different,
maybe the Minister Jukes.

Speaker 5 (02:10:07):
I don't know.

Speaker 6 (02:10:07):
You've got to throw a humor at it.

Speaker 4 (02:10:10):
You might have to thank you, Jeff. There is an
app that councils used to send alerts to remind us out.
It's called Antenna Multiple Council News. It will use it
for effective chairs.

Speaker 6 (02:10:27):
Sam.

Speaker 4 (02:10:27):
Does it give you an alert if you're not actually
on that app or do you have to check on
that app if it's your bin days changed? I think
you need something that actually comes through the noise on
your phone. Let me know about that. Also. Twenty past eleven,
twenty five past eleven, Matthew, this is Marcus, welcome in.
Good evening.

Speaker 20 (02:10:46):
Oh good evening. I don't ever realize they'll be on
the radio session so quickly.

Speaker 4 (02:10:51):
It's one of my core Matthew, Matthew, one of my
core values. Get them in, get them on, get them off,
none of this one, none of us waiting around forever,
because then what happens if people are waiting on forever right,
then they forget what they talking about and they chiming
about what the last person on said. So then they
get topic bleed so that they rung they've rung up

(02:11:14):
about they've rung up about bending Sundays, and then someone
on is talking about the poor patrols and they don't
have to talk about so before they talk to betting
Sundays and what about the poor patrols about half an
hour gets confused. That's the way other people do it differently, totally.

Speaker 20 (02:11:32):
I hope that you don't hear me like this or
anything like that. Or what's you know? You know, your
your job is what's coming up in the future and
what people are going to say, and you have to
react so quickly. And it's quite beautiful, you know, a

(02:11:55):
beautiful time ago as a less American borom dance and
now I had to think quickly.

Speaker 4 (02:12:01):
That's what Matthew, Yes, do you think you should be
on the air tonight?

Speaker 20 (02:12:08):
I think so, you're thak.

Speaker 4 (02:12:11):
You in a good place.

Speaker 20 (02:12:14):
I am in a fantastic place, my friend, you are
my friend.

Speaker 4 (02:12:20):
You sound elevated.

Speaker 20 (02:12:23):
Halloween's coming up. How do you feel about Halloween? Okay,
on thirty first of October.

Speaker 4 (02:12:31):
You know, I will tell you it doesn't. It doesn't.
I don't have an emotional response to Halloween. I'm neutral.
I don't care if people want to enjoy it. It's
not something that I would get involved with.

Speaker 5 (02:12:45):
Okay.

Speaker 4 (02:12:46):
If kids came knocking at the door and I was
watching the baseball I'd think, oh, well, whatever, let them
be there. I wouldn't go and buy stuff for them.
If my kids want to go door knocking, I'd say,
knock yourself out.

Speaker 20 (02:12:58):
If you go, oh, Marcus, I do, I'd buy the lollies.
I don't leave them over my house. They stand outside
my gate. That's my Halloween subject. And then I go
for a walk and all of these children that love
a little bit of kind of surprisal gifts them their life.
I go walking and I've got a big bag of

(02:13:20):
Halloween lollies, and I go for a walk of my
friend and I give these kids some lollies and they say, oh,
trickle tree, say trickle tree, And I give them lots
of lollies. I think I want it.

Speaker 11 (02:13:38):
And the people that are into wanted the bestons.

Speaker 4 (02:13:43):
The people that are into it seem to be really
into it. Which is you right? You're Halloween obsessive?

Speaker 20 (02:13:47):
Right, yeah, lower hearts?

Speaker 4 (02:13:50):
Yeah, what's the sweets you buy? Matthew?

Speaker 20 (02:13:54):
Well, what I did. I went to the warehouse when
they were reduced to candy canes to ten cents of packet,
and I went along important about one hundred packets of
candy canes that the warehouse reduces the teen cents to

(02:14:18):
attack it and me and my friends we're going to
have fun. We're going to dress up. You know it's coming.

Speaker 4 (02:14:26):
What are dressing up?

Speaker 15 (02:14:27):
Is?

Speaker 20 (02:14:29):
I am going to dress up as a well my
natural which.

Speaker 4 (02:14:38):
Okay, wellive it, David. Thank you, Harry, This is Marcus. Welcome.

Speaker 14 (02:14:43):
Yeah, good evening Marcus. Here you getting a bit lonely there,
might need something to talk to.

Speaker 5 (02:14:50):
How are you doing very well?

Speaker 4 (02:14:51):
Thank you?

Speaker 5 (02:14:53):
Oh that's good.

Speaker 14 (02:14:54):
Listen about Andrew Windsor. They're trying to toss him out
with the lords at Windsor Palace winter Castle, aren't they
think that's Yeah?

Speaker 4 (02:15:04):
I think that's the I don't know if I don't No,
I don't quite know how it works, what the plan is,
but I don't think it's going to end particularly. I
don't think his life's something about to get a lot better,
let's just put it that way.

Speaker 14 (02:15:15):
No, I've got an idea for him. I think they
should put him in a semi detached council house and
dagging him over in Essex, next door to a big
family with an even bigger dog. Might teach him a
bit of manners and a book a bit of humility,
because he hasn't got any no and he doesn't seem

(02:15:37):
he doesn't appeal to me, and I think he can
take his big brother with him and leave the throne
empty so we can put Wolves and Kate on. Because
I think Williams I think William is the man that
should be king.

Speaker 4 (02:15:50):
So you are, that's so Harry, because I can tell
by your excent you're probably from England. You're not an
anti Royalist, you're just anty the slot.

Speaker 14 (02:16:00):
Oh I'm anti this lot. I'm Scottish and apologies quite frankly.
Oh that's so, we don't mind at all.

Speaker 19 (02:16:07):
I've lived in England as well.

Speaker 14 (02:16:10):
But from my point of view, we need somebody with
a level head and a bit of integrity and a
little bit of decorum for his family, and I think
William is a guy that's shaping up for that. And
you know, I think the I think those two boys

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have had the share of scandals and whatever else, Andra
more than the other, but they don't appeal to me
as people. And after watching her Royal Highness Princess and
the other day she went to meet mister Zalanski and

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spoke about the children, she's another one who's really stood
out as somebody extraordinarily different to her two brothers. I'll
tell you that she would have done well if she'd
been the eldest and become queen.

Speaker 2 (02:17:07):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (02:17:08):
Well, she's always been extremely hard working.

Speaker 14 (02:17:12):
Extremely hard working, and I tell you you can't put
anything past her. You're trying to you try and tell
her a little white lie. Just ask Mark Phillips what
happens when he goes back.

Speaker 11 (02:17:24):
And says, well, actually it's just a weafling.

Speaker 14 (02:17:27):
She flung him out the door.

Speaker 4 (02:17:30):
Yeah, I don't know what happened him. In the end,
he still bounces.

Speaker 5 (02:17:34):
Around the think.

Speaker 14 (02:17:36):
I think he I think he had to go play
with the horses and just stay out of her way.
And yeah, but she's not a softy, I promise from
what I gather.

Speaker 4 (02:17:49):
So you'd be quite you'd be quite happy with all
the with all the developments.

Speaker 14 (02:17:55):
Well, you know, I'm quite happy that. I'm quite happy
that they are facing this guy up with Israel in reality.
I mean, I've had to face up to mine in
the last four years now, didn't you know? I didn't
ask for what I got, And you've got to face reality.
Sometimes it comes and bits you in the bump, and
if you don't acknowledge it, it's going to bait you

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a lot harder. The second time.

Speaker 4 (02:18:19):
The thing that I was always the thing that I
was always surprised I thought about that. I'm not I
haven't read that woman's biography. The woman that died, because
that just seems so depressing. But the thing that I
always do find that jars a bit with me, right,
and you, I wouldn't mind your response to this. They
always say that Andrew, they always say that Andrew, Prince

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Andrew was the Queen's favorite. Well, you wonder why when
he turned out to be such a ligor and such
a diletton. I mean, is that the white word, but
I mean it appeared to be an incredibly flawed individual.

Speaker 14 (02:18:51):
Well, I think I think when you prop someone up
on a pedestal and then they get so puffed up
that they fall off a few times, Yeah, you sort
of wonder how they got to be the favorite the
first place. And yeah, I understand your viewpoint on that.

Speaker 4 (02:19:10):
Marcus speaking, and also Harry think I think, with you
and I having this robust discussion, I don't think we're
anti Royal because of anything. I think probably the royal
the royal family will be stronger without him.

Speaker 14 (02:19:21):
Listen, I'm Scottish. I'm Scottish. Those people are Scottish. Those
people are Scottish. To the court and just go back
to the Queen mother and you'll find out she was
born in England, but she was more Scottish than MOUs
Scott's folk.

Speaker 11 (02:19:36):
Ever, may I'll tell you.

Speaker 14 (02:19:37):
And you know so, I'm not anti royal, but I
am anti women people that disgrace themselves in public and
think that we should like the boots for it.

Speaker 4 (02:19:49):
Thanks very much, appreciate that, Pauline. This is Marcus. Good evening.

Speaker 10 (02:19:55):
Hello Marcus. Was that Harry just speaking?

Speaker 4 (02:19:59):
Let me think his name's gone? I think so?

Speaker 10 (02:20:02):
What a what a really good telephone court prompted me
to speak the difference between Princess Anne and Prince Andrew.
Andrew asked his mother for his offspring to be princesses,
and and Princess Anne said to her mother, I don't
want titles for my children. And that's the difference between

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them for a start.

Speaker 4 (02:20:27):
But work worry. I worry about those girls of his
because they seem to be a little unannged also. But anyway,
tell me, yes.

Speaker 10 (02:20:37):
Now that Sarah Ferguson is not a duchess, She's not
a princess. She's how if one was to write to her,
how would they address the envelope? She's you know, she
just has no title or and did you say she

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was being evicted from Royal Yeah.

Speaker 4 (02:21:01):
I think they both are eleven different parts of it.
I'm not quite sure where they go.

Speaker 10 (02:21:05):
Yeah, and it wasn't King George. I don't think who
was played up the last time. Wasn't it Edward?

Speaker 4 (02:21:14):
Oh yeah, Missus Simpson was the name of the movie,
wasn't it Yeah?

Speaker 10 (02:21:19):
Got it's a it's a real mess, and you sort
of think.

Speaker 4 (02:21:24):
Part of the way the way, I'm the worst person
as far as details of the royal family. I'm not
sort of a royal expert, so I apologize about that.

Speaker 10 (02:21:33):
I used to adore them when I was young. It's
like it's like little girls with princesses and queens and
series stories. And the awful thing is that when you
hear the reality and you read the reality, it actually
destroys something. But the chap who was speaking to you
just before, I think he's right. I think the king

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needs to abdicate.

Speaker 4 (02:21:58):
And I thought people kind of quite like the King now.
I mean, he's a bit dopey and he did do
his fun about the pen, but I thought people thought
he had grown into the role of it.

Speaker 10 (02:22:07):
I'm reading that William is suggesting to his father that
his father abdicates. Yeah, and that William and Kate take
on and then Charles rests for he's looking very old
and unwell and I think he's still being treated for

(02:22:28):
his illness. So it'd be a very hard job job
for him.

Speaker 4 (02:22:33):
But well, there is an element of heartbreak. I mean,
if you're into that thing with this element of heartbreak
that someone would wait till he's seventy two to get
the job. He's waited his whole life to fulfill his
role and then became sick within a very short time
of getting that role, even before he got that role.
I mean, you know, it's tragic, isn't it.

Speaker 10 (02:22:53):
It's absolutely tragic. It's and the fact that he is
still undergoing treatment, isn't he Marcus for it?

Speaker 4 (02:23:04):
Some form of ken a prostate? Prostate prostate? I think?

Speaker 8 (02:23:08):
Is it?

Speaker 12 (02:23:09):
Is that?

Speaker 6 (02:23:09):
Right?

Speaker 10 (02:23:10):
Yeah? This business about Andrew Andrew Windsor, I think he's
Mount Batton Windsor because when when the children were being
born to the Queen, they changed the surname and it
was going to be I think the Queen was guided
to Windsor as a title, but Prince Philip kicked out

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because he said that I'm the father and they're not
having my name, so it was changed to Mount Batton
Windsor is what I think I read. But yeah, it's
very it's very curious. Thank you very much for keeping
me abreast of affairs over there.

Speaker 4 (02:23:54):
Are you going to Are you going to write to Sarah?

Speaker 10 (02:23:59):
No?

Speaker 4 (02:24:00):
But because you ask you about address, I thought you
might be one of those obsessive letter writers. But no,
that's right. I was just curious to know.

Speaker 10 (02:24:06):
Once I once a tea lady at the prison and
I where I worked in the administration. We decided to
write to the queen mother and we got a lovely response,
and we wrote to someone else as well, and we
got a response from the lady in waiting. So you've

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still got that somewhere.

Speaker 4 (02:24:28):
Interesting. It'd be an interesting be a tea lady at
a prison, was it.

Speaker 10 (02:24:33):
Ah, she was in the prison administration area, which was
quite separate from the prison.

Speaker 4 (02:24:40):
But oh, that was not you. That was your friend,
was the tea lady.

Speaker 10 (02:24:45):
We were both in the prison administration building. Yeah, it's
seven years that sort of job that was very interesting.

Speaker 4 (02:24:54):
Might be story for another night. That Pauline. I've got
to go people. That is it for me? That is
Tuesday feels like Monday and Wednesday. I enjoyed that muchly.
Thank you, Marcus. It was always two good to my
mother that Andrew wasn't Philip's son, the Queen's only in discretion.
Perhaps that's why she protected him. Marcus, tell your listeners

(02:25:15):
to see the film on Netflix about Andrew, who's really
not a nice person. There we go, Well, it's rules
that got us through in the end. I should have
thought of that earlier. What about Andrew? What about Andrew?
Edward can do no wrong? You never hear a bad
story about him?

Speaker 19 (02:25:32):
Do you?

Speaker 4 (02:25:33):
Tim's along next? Talk to you tomorrow, good night.

Speaker 1 (02:25:38):
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