You slash it off as you go (3 September 2025)

Marcus makes a big call about this weekend's rugby game, and talks dirigibles, and the banning of energy drinks for minors.

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Speaker 1 (00:07):
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Speaker 2 (00:13):
Hey, let's go, greetings, welcome Marcus till twelve. That's me
glad to thank you for tuning in, or thank you
for remaining, for remaining to be tuned in, thank you
for still being tuned in, thank you for not tuning out.
I guess it's the thing we say at this time
that I'll be hittled twelve ten beverage along from twelve.

(00:33):
I hope you're listening on the radio or iHeart that's
what people do these days. Good on you, We're not fast.
It's all the same to me. Question for you before well,
question for you, because I'm not quite sure where this
will go. What is the difference people without googling? But
I'm also interested the difference between a dirigible and a zeppelin.

(00:55):
I want to have anyone want to have a go
at that, because I've got some interesting things to say
about that. I've been doing some study on that today,
reading dirigibles and zeppelins. What's the difference or are they
the same thing? If you want to try answering that,
that would be a good thing for me to start
off with. Tonight. I've got topics, but this is just
something that I thought I wouldn't mind talking about, just

(01:16):
to begin with dirigibles and zeppelins. Don't google it. By
the way, I am tending towards because this rugby match
is so anticipated, the Shield match, no, the other match,
the Test on Saturday. I'm almost steering towards a sweepo

(01:40):
on that I don't quite know, but just because there's
so much excitement in it. So if anyone's got a
less boring way to a sweep stake, or anyone's got
a prize for a steep sweepstak, let me know. Wouldn't
mind giving away some bill tong or something. But if
you've got yeah, if you if you're if you've got
an interesting idea for a sweepstake. The trouble with rugby

(02:03):
sweepstake says you can't do every school like you can
in a football one. But yeah, I'm thinking about that,
So put some thought into that in the next four
hours about the sweep step. But if you know that
there's been a dirigible and a zeppelin, let me know
about that and then and if someone comes up with that,
then I can do the next part of this question,
I feel I'd be saying dirigible and zeppelin a lot.

(02:25):
When I was an intermediate, scalated a project on Zeppelins. No,
I did a project on light to the near aircraft
and the future for them for freight, and I've always
had a soft spot for dirigibles and Zippelins. We might
do some talking about that tonight, or we will be

(02:46):
I'm already talking about it now. Lie to the near aircraft,
that's the future, said no one ever in the last
eighty years since it all went bad. But what's the
difference between a dirigible and a Zippelin. It's another question
a child would ask, isn't it Nate, would you know
the answer to that? It's Marcus, welcome, Hey, Marcus, tell

(03:07):
you good, thank you.

Speaker 3 (03:09):
Hey. Look, it's the same as pasta and band aid,
so effectively, so a dirigible is any type of rigid
balloon type aircraft, and Zepprin is a particular type of dirigibles.
It's a brand, So it's the same as as like
we put on a band aid, but you most of
the time you just put it in a pasta. So
it's the same thing on.

Speaker 2 (03:29):
A scale of one to ten. How certain of what
of you are with what you're saying?

Speaker 3 (03:35):
It's a ten out of ten?

Speaker 2 (03:36):
Wow, you think it's a ten? You think the Zeppelin's
just a brand name for a dirigible exactly?

Speaker 3 (03:43):
Yep, I mean because look like dirigibles can come in
different shapes and sizes, but zeprons have a particular shape.

Speaker 2 (03:49):
Mmmm. Okay, appreciate that night. Thank you, Scotty. It's Marcus.

Speaker 4 (03:55):
Welcome go Marcus.

Speaker 2 (03:57):
Good Scotty yourself?

Speaker 5 (03:59):
Oh very good mate, very good. I like I like
the form of your self and boys against Westlake at
the national first of things or the week?

Speaker 2 (04:07):
What what did Yeah? Did South and played with slag?
Did they?

Speaker 5 (04:13):
They played them in the bronze final.

Speaker 2 (04:16):
Okay, of course that's right because they'd played they played
in the semi final and they beat them, and that
was there much to play for in the third and
fourth were the players.

Speaker 5 (04:25):
That I mean, you're playing for pride, and you're playing
for bronze medal and you're playing for a title, so
you're still playing for something. But yeah, big congratulations to
South and yeah you got some good players down there.

Speaker 2 (04:42):
And I see the semi final wasn't an appalling conditions?
Was it was terrible weather.

Speaker 5 (04:47):
Whether it was okay, it was just a howling wind,
like it was a.

Speaker 2 (04:51):
Huge window to start apparently.

Speaker 5 (04:55):
Yeah, but one for your sweet steak. And it's one
that the that we have every time there's a game
that we want a bit of interest in. So you
don't actually the score, but you pick the winning margin
and a team. So you might go all Black and
you might go, yeah, all Blacks by ten. So if

(05:17):
the All Blacks win twenty to ten, you win the
sweep steak. If the All Blacks win fifty to forty,
you win the sweep steak. But it's all about the
margin rather than the score line. And what that does
is so say you picked twenty one seventeen to the
All Blacks and a halftime, it's twenty five nineteen. That's it.

(05:43):
You're not interested in the second half.

Speaker 2 (05:46):
By this one. You've still got skin in the game
right to the last whistle.

Speaker 5 (05:50):
Absolutely, And it goes right down to the last minute.
So when I get to the game with the boys,
that might be four of us live in those last
three minutes, someone might have the right score and then
someone else goes right. I need the All Blacks to
score great wide and not convert, or I need them
to score under the post and convert, or I need

(06:12):
them to score a penalty, and then you repeat that
for the other side.

Speaker 2 (06:15):
Scotty, how many people do you think you could take
into the sweepstake like that?

Speaker 4 (06:19):
How many?

Speaker 2 (06:19):
How many different how many different selections would there be?

Speaker 5 (06:24):
So if in previous years, if it's the All Blacks
versus a team that you know they're going to beat easily,
we normally take it up to about thirty to thirty
five for the All Blacks.

Speaker 2 (06:37):
Okay, and then you give yeah oh if you first,
and the best people would get the closest scores, So
your first predictors would be saying South Africa by sex
because that would be a feasible margin, wouldn't it.

Speaker 5 (06:50):
Yep, But you could take it up to twenty five
on each side, So you're going to have twenty five
for the All Blacks, twenty five for South Africa, and
the draw that gives you fifty people, and you know
that someone's most likely going to win to someone that
someone might pick. You know, I picked the All Blacks
to win thirty five ten and it's thirty five eleven.

(07:12):
Then technically Anthon's you know one either side, then there's
an argument on who's closest, whereas if you picked the
winning margin on the dot, there's no argument.

Speaker 2 (07:21):
What part of the country are you and they're Scotty.

Speaker 5 (07:24):
Uh, North Harbor in that country.

Speaker 2 (07:26):
Have you been asked any brize this weekend?

Speaker 5 (07:29):
Uh, we'll be getting some built on from up in
Johanna's Bay or the East Coast babes. So we'll be
getting some, will we go. We'll definitely be getting some
built on.

Speaker 2 (07:41):
Is that your own Johanna's Bay?

Speaker 6 (07:44):
Yeah?

Speaker 5 (07:45):
Absolutely, you came out with that.

Speaker 2 (07:49):
Is that your own work in.

Speaker 5 (07:51):
Yeah, Johanna's Bay. Yeah. Well the other one is chow Fontaine, Yes,
which is it used to be? You know how it
can then have became Chowick and now it's chew Fontaine.
But no, we came up with Johanna's Bay.

Speaker 2 (08:03):
And that's to all the bays, is it?

Speaker 5 (08:06):
Well? Yeah, I mean the South Africans love East Coast
Bays and to be truthful, the East Coast Bays love
the South Africans because they love rice, they love beer,
they love built You'll get built on on for that, yep, yep,
we'll get the whole. We'll get a whole cup and
then we just take it into the ground and you
take it and we do it the South African where
you take in a knife and you just slice off

(08:28):
your own pieces.

Speaker 2 (08:29):
Wow, So are you through osmosis turning South African?

Speaker 7 (08:31):
Are you?

Speaker 4 (08:33):
Ah?

Speaker 5 (08:35):
Where we love Biltong?

Speaker 2 (08:38):
We love Biltong Hannah's Bay. How many South Africans were
in the West Lake first fifteen?

Speaker 8 (08:45):
Uh?

Speaker 5 (08:47):
This year? I think about six or seven?

Speaker 4 (08:50):
Wow?

Speaker 5 (08:50):
Okay, but they're good, They're welcome, they love their rugby,
They're lovely.

Speaker 2 (08:56):
There's no doubt about that. Oh yeah, and the big
I suppose the big units too, are they?

Speaker 6 (09:01):
Ah?

Speaker 5 (09:05):
They are good size. But the best ones.

Speaker 9 (09:07):
Are the backs.

Speaker 5 (09:12):
I think a couple of years ago you had JD.
Van de vest Hazen who was rated as the best
winger in New Zealand. That was last season and the
season before.

Speaker 2 (09:20):
And what would be what would be your spread and
your pick for Saturday?

Speaker 5 (09:30):
That's a toss of the coin. I'm really like a
lot of the country. I'm probably really really nervous. We've
got so much of I can't remember the last time
we lost at Eden part that was ninety seven. Oh,
I can't remember it then.

Speaker 2 (09:43):
And you're not frust for a knife.

Speaker 5 (09:46):
We're not sorrying, Oh no, you just carry it in
your pocket.

Speaker 2 (09:49):
Wow.

Speaker 5 (09:50):
And then it's yeah, he's taken it like as the
true South African way. You're just taken a knife and
you slice off that.

Speaker 2 (09:57):
I'd strap it to the league just in case.

Speaker 5 (10:00):
Mate, if you're an Auckland Marcus, you know we'd be
having you with us on the terraces.

Speaker 2 (10:04):
Absolutely, thanks Scotti. Go of course, I'm here for the shield.
We've got the shield at five past four, Scottie. So
that's the situation for us. We've got the Shield challenge
and then we've got the test at home.

Speaker 7 (10:17):
I would have.

Speaker 2 (10:17):
Mentioned, oh wait, tandran eighty tay nine nine to text eight.
That's a good that's a strong start. And I sort
of really resolved the air and told you what I'm
going to talk about. But anyway, eighteen past eight, Thank you, Scott.
I enjoyed your enthusiasm. And I think we might go
with that sweetpo is there a Is there a name
for that? I like that sweepsteake idea. It's good magic.

(10:39):
Put that margin pick. I think we're going to go
to margin picking. Twenty one past eight, Davy, it's Marcus. Welcome,
good evening.

Speaker 10 (10:48):
Oh goody Marcus, just picking up on your topic of leopards. Yes,
and I suppose it's a bit of a naughty story.

Speaker 4 (10:58):
Really.

Speaker 10 (11:00):
I'm a former pilot and when I learned to fly,
it was all pre student loans, and so you had
had the work your way through whatever jobs or borrow
money from the bank of Mum and Dad, that sort
of thing, and to get your way through. And then

(11:22):
by the time you got qualified, your first job was
generally as a flight instructor, and you only got paid
for the lesson you gave, so you might only give
four or five lessons a week as a part time instructor,
so and ten dollars a lesson isn't going to pay

(11:48):
pay your way through through life, right, So all flight
instructors back in the day are not talking the nineties
and whatever. You All flight instructors were on the doll
as the primary income and topped up by and hours

(12:12):
lesson here and there.

Speaker 4 (12:14):
Right.

Speaker 10 (12:15):
But if you were on the doll you had to
register your qualifications and if they came up with a job,
you had to go and do that job. So all
pilots registered is qualified Zipplin pilots and so wins head

(12:40):
on their books. Oh well, I can only talk about
the institution that I was at, but I certainly know
that from the institution where I was working, there were
dirty qualified Zippelin pilots.

Speaker 11 (12:54):
On the double.

Speaker 2 (12:55):
Very funny. David's a good story, Thank you. I knew
we'd get the Ziplin stories. But my question to you tonight,
that's what I was. There was a question before we
had the question already. Oh, by the way, I've got
two questions. It's a life of questions. If we do
the sweep steak, although on this show we call it
the sweep oh as a prize, would you want Bill

(13:18):
Tong or would you want butter? Or would you want
butter and buil Tong? I think we're sort of stuck
on bees. And as someone else suggest, surprise, what would
be what would be more appealing to people? Text me through?

(13:39):
Would it be butter or would it be Builtong? Johanna's
beaze very good, always like a nickname for suburb, always good.
Keep texting those through two cents whre I've got multiple
strands going tonight for those that are out of Auckland,

(14:02):
including myself. Most of the South Africans appeared to move
to the East Coast Bays. I'm not entirely sure why,
but that's what they had have done, and that's yes,
that's pretty much where they are. There'll be a reason
for it. No votes for butter or built on yet

(14:32):
serving the survey for the prize for the sweep. O
oh eight one hundred and eighty nine nine two detect.
I'll give you a breaking news where it happens tonight.
Trump's announcement. Wasn't that interesting? Was it? Did you think?
I don't even quite know what it was. Actually, I
think they had to build some rockets somewhere. Wake up
early to check it out. It's the power of forward

(14:53):
teasing that if you say it's a classic radio trick,
if you say what's going to come up, people get
riveted by it and they go into a state of
starts until they find out the solution. Oh did you
see the story in Australia. This is a great story.
Grandparents went the daycare to the daycare to pick up

(15:15):
their grandchild. Right, granddad got the wrong child. Wow, Yeah,
granddad took the wrong child home. The first first steps

(15:36):
living Academy in Bangor. Then the mother comes up to
pick up the child. The child's not there because Granddad's
taken the wrong child. Yes, he was striving with a
car seat. He didn't really notice which kidd he got.
When he got him home. He just stuggled into him

(15:58):
and went to sleep. And he didn't realize that the
same he had the dumb in his mouth, and there
we go, a different child. I don't think anyone from
listen of Lands taking the wrong child home from daykey.
But do us know with the mix up? Someone says
Bill Tong or a bottle of wine. Someone says Bill Tong.
Someone says a mutton Ham. Well, yes, a something about

(16:26):
the show loves a mutton Ham. He's going to talk
to the old home Kill tomorrow. I might ask Hi
about the old mutton Hams. Actually, Philip, that's a great thing.
Actually I just text Vanessa that's exactly what we'll do.
Breck it. I forgot the name of the butchers. Now

(16:50):
from anyway, Oh wait, I at eight, text if you
want to come through so there will be a sweepsteak
on Friday. Dan, You'll have to get check GPT to
write out of spread spread over the spreadsheet dancing. He's
not trusting that to AI. He's doing himself.

Speaker 7 (17:13):
What will here?

Speaker 2 (17:13):
Less and less people asking to hear Dan's voice? Do
you notice that I'm joking. I'm excited about Mutton and Hams.

Speaker 4 (17:25):
Who now.

Speaker 2 (17:30):
A horrendercin for Henderson because he's white beef for Whitby,
horrendousent for Henderson. I've got about four different strands of
topics going tonight, keeping the show lively, horrendercent it's quite good,
horrendousn Johanna's baze, keep him going if you've got something, Marcus.

(17:55):
I'm a friend of Scottie's and his sweeps is the
best to play and always adds Huji to our trips
to pre match drinks and dinner at Girl Braith and
our walk to Eden Park to watch the Abs. It's
twenty bucks to bend with ten people. It's a good
pay out, often spent on a curry after the game.
That's cares. Oh, Scotty sounds like a bit of a legion, actually,
I think, And I don't know what where it fits

(18:15):
in the picture of tell He's either got kids at
Westlake Boys or coaches the team anyway should be the
surprise for the for the spot for the sweep. I
should be the go to the next rugby test with
Scott Scotty oh eight hundred and eighty twenty had nine
nine to the text Marcus still midnight if you want

(18:38):
to come through dB, this is Marcus Welcome.

Speaker 9 (18:42):
What do you mean I'm going to have an educated
guest of the Zeppelin versus durgible. Yes, I thought a
dirigible was a lighter than air aircraft where the basket
was hung from the bladder where Zeppelins were designed by
Graft and Zeppelin and were a widget howl. Yeah, that's

(19:06):
my bit. I'm going to look it up after but.

Speaker 2 (19:10):
I think I think I think it dirigible has got
to be steerable.

Speaker 9 (19:15):
Yes, yeah, no, but you say the one like ty
chilly bang bang. It had lots and everything, but the
basket was was separate from the bladder. Where's graph Zeppelins Zeppelins.
The gondola was part of the structure.

Speaker 2 (19:33):
Oh well, what's a blump?

Speaker 9 (19:38):
I think that may well be an American term for
the same item, because they have the goodyear blumps, and
that they have their pilots inside the bladder. And I've
got it. I don't know where I've got it from.
I've got a feeling a dirigible has the control mechanism
hang not not unlike a HoTT air balloon.

Speaker 2 (20:04):
I might some spend some time on YouTube to because
I'm sure there's some great stuff about dirigibiles and zeppelins.

Speaker 9 (20:11):
Yeah, I've got to quick one about the grand father
took the wrong child home. I wanked up to the
day here and picked up my number three son one day,
like I'm an itinerant parent, and I get home and
my wife says to me, where'd you get that from?
They're giving them away on the corner shop. She says,

(20:32):
technically you're not allowed to do that. And actually I
was completely dumb founders, I said, well, She says, Well,
it's not that I don't trust you. She says, but
I don't think you're on the list, But anybody ask you.
I said no, I just we didn't put them up.
I wanted out with them. She says, that's not allowed
to happen, and we're a bit more careful thereafter.

Speaker 2 (20:57):
Well, you should have been on the list, shouldn't you.

Speaker 12 (21:00):
Oh?

Speaker 9 (21:00):
Yeah, there was no reasonably not to be on the list.
But she'd never put me on the list because I
didn't turn up that often, okay, and I shouldn't expect
me to go up and get him because I don't know.

Speaker 2 (21:12):
Oh, well done, you, well done you forgetting the right
child though, dB. That's a bonus.

Speaker 9 (21:18):
He's a par so I recognize him.

Speaker 2 (21:23):
Nice to hear from your dB. Yes, the word dirigible
comes from the verb diriger French to steer. That's of
interest to me anyway. So what I wanted to ask
you about was what was because this is what I was.

(21:46):
This is what I was surprised today without googling, what
was the dirigible crash with the most deaths? Any ideas
for that? What do you think that was? If you
let me know, because I'm fascinated by this. Are we're
looking at the prize for the sweep steak Marcus. The

(22:09):
reason most South Africans live in the East Coast space
is when they get off the plane, the uber drivers
is where do you want to go to mate? And
the South African replies South African accent not sure, Ah,
I can't do it. But you're going to say not sure,
North Shure go not sure? No, it's going to go
to think South African tell that joke Billtong all day.
Here's the illusion of more time and effort's required to

(22:29):
produce versus Butter. Please ask what response of the present
trub announcement? What was the announcement? Don't know something about
Rocket City that has moved to make the space force somewhere, Marcus.
The prize for the sweeper could be a bray knife anyway.
The most deadly is the most dearly dirigible extent ever?

(22:52):
Do you know what that was? What do you think
it would be? If you're interested, let me know eight
hundred and eighty ten eighty and a million things I
can talk about tonight. I'm on the zone. I'm on
the talkback topic zone, Marcus. Have you seen the new
home shoots for the upcoming season regards to Auklam FC?
They look good? There we go from Stefan. Thank you

(23:14):
for that, Marcus. Have you seen the deep fake on
Jack Taman viewing our promise to Chris Lux on how
to make money?

Speaker 8 (23:21):
No?

Speaker 2 (23:21):
I haven't. I hate to say it, but it looks
like the women rugby players have a lot more fun
than the men. Have you noticed that pre and after
games at the World Cup they seem to be loving it.
What's that about? Twenty two to nine teed. This is Marcus.
Welcome and good evening.

Speaker 7 (23:35):
Yeah, hey Marcus, how are you doing?

Speaker 4 (23:36):
Man? Hey?

Speaker 7 (23:38):
Dirigibles they're rigid frame balloons, so they've got a mainly
al aminium frame, a rigid frame which gives them that
long elongated look, and then they're filled with gas bags.
So that's any dirigible. So a Zeppelin was just a
German maker. They made dirigibles, Britain made dirigibles, France made dirigibles.

(24:01):
There was a very famous crash, English crash, the R
one oh one might go to you biggest guest toll
on a on a dirigible crash. I'm not sure about
that one, but it was pretty pretty pathetics. They thought
they thought they were going up, and they were going
down the entire time. Then flew into a bank of
a hill or something. So that what was that?

Speaker 2 (24:19):
What was that one called.

Speaker 7 (24:22):
The R one o one the British, Yeah, Germans, believe
it not. Germans were creative. They called things Zeppelin or
the Great Zeppelin or something like that. But the British
numbered them one zero one, one zero two. Very strange.

Speaker 2 (24:35):
How many died more than the Hindenburg.

Speaker 7 (24:38):
I'm not sure that's the problem, mate. The Hindenburg was
it was a commercial liner. Obviously, this was a development liner.
It was a very big one that the British were developing.
But I'm not sure if it was full of a
capacity crew and passengers at the time it crashed. I
think it was still in testing at that stage.

Speaker 2 (24:58):
That it's made in flight.

Speaker 7 (25:00):
Oh okay, there we go.

Speaker 2 (25:02):
Yeah, made in flight to India. That's a pretty ambassion.
Ambush is made and fly, doesn't it.

Speaker 7 (25:08):
Yeah. Well that was the glorious thing about the Dirigibles,
the whole idea of them that were they were meant
to be like an ocean miner. Yes, but in the skies.
Have you ever seen any of any of the photographs
of the actual interiors.

Speaker 2 (25:23):
No, I haven't been looking. I spent a lot of
time looking for it.

Speaker 7 (25:25):
But yeah, it's amazing. They had huge spaces, you know,
like mount rooms. Was just glorious windows hopping down each
side that they could sit and look at things. Three
five thousand people in them, and.

Speaker 2 (25:38):
The most extraordinary thing must have been the size of
the buildings they used to put them in install them.
They must have been magnificent exactly.

Speaker 4 (25:46):
Yeah.

Speaker 7 (25:47):
I saw a photo I think it was the graph
Zeppelin works where they had three hangers right next to
each other, and it was just unbelievable how large they were.
You know, you see their hangers out at the airport
these days. I think they'd be dwarfed by the dirigibles. Absolutely.

Speaker 2 (26:04):
Forty eight of the fifty three people on board died
on that.

Speaker 7 (26:08):
What oh they are one on one.

Speaker 2 (26:10):
Yeah, it's a lot in it.

Speaker 7 (26:12):
That's a hell of a lot, mate. It's what gets
us with air accidents all the time. You know, lots
of people dyeing car crashes, Lots more people dyeing car crashes,
but only one or two at a time.

Speaker 2 (26:23):
Nice to talk dead, Thanks for that. Nineteen Oh god,
I'm dead. Not teen. That was bad. Nineteen to nine.
Oh wait, yes, looking, if you can tell me what
was the worst dirigible accident of all time, because I
think they might be some interesting because yeah, a lot
of people have texted through the Hindenburg, And what's interesting,
the Hindenburg wasn't the worst crash. It was just the
crash that everyone remembers because it was the one that

(26:45):
happened was the most publicized. Because the cameras were there,
and there are people hanging off ropes, which was never good.
If ever in life you're hanging on to a dirigible
and it takes off, you let go as soon as
you can. We will have a sweep oh on Sunday
on Friday, probably for the last hour. It'll be the

(27:08):
spread and the winning team team first, then spread. I
think that's the answer. This is the way we're going
to do it, eighteen to night. If you want to
be a part of it. The deadliest dirigible extend ever,
if you want to tell me what that was, because
the answer is surprised to read that today never heard

(27:31):
of it. You probably would have heard of it either.
I certainly had it. And also the sweep steak for Friday.
I don't know what the prize will be. It'll either
be butter or it'll be Bill Tong or a Muttenham
probably hasn't bey much talk back done on dirigibles before

(27:52):
the worst dirigible excidenty because most people thought it was
the Hindenburg. I found it tonight. It's not the Hindenburg.
The part of me still wishes that'd come back the
dirigibles and they could travel around the world on them,
but they were because they went from they were flammable
then they switched to heat, which is a hard guest
to get because they mined for it. It surprise you
that they mine for helium to love itck Texas, that's

(28:13):
where they get it all from. No, he didn't mind helium.
You think it'd all raise up into the sky even
it's Marcus welcome.

Speaker 13 (28:25):
So I've got a bit of a theory on why
the South Africans like the Browns Bay so much. Yeah, o,
North Harbor was in the eighties and nineties. North Harbor
was right up there in the winning team.

Speaker 2 (28:37):
I see what you're saying. So there, Okay they've gone
because they've got their good rugby team.

Speaker 13 (28:41):
Yeah yeah, Fridbury Park and all that that would it's
pretty pretty well known back they name.

Speaker 2 (28:46):
You're onto it? Is it where you're from?

Speaker 4 (28:48):
Yeah?

Speaker 14 (28:49):
Yeah, Browns Bait, Yeah, brilliant.

Speaker 13 (28:52):
Well I was born in Milford. Oh yeah, wow, yeah,
just up the road from the Mariner there.

Speaker 2 (28:58):
Oh you got you got the over haven't they? The
old over Bridge?

Speaker 8 (29:02):
Yeah?

Speaker 13 (29:02):
I come with you, yeah, sort of with it? Tennis quarters, yes, yes,
hospital there.

Speaker 2 (29:09):
You ever walked around all the bays?

Speaker 13 (29:12):
Oh yeah, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 2 (29:13):
Great walk that one. Nice to hear from Evan thig
you fourteen to nine. She were trending well in Auckland
Tonight eight hundred and eighty ten eighty nineteen nine two
detect dirigibles and the sweepsteak on Friday, anticipating that with
just what the giveaway is going to be? Will it
be built on? Will it be a mutton Ham. I'll

(29:35):
talk to the bus. We'll get some money for a'll
get some ray me. Oh so, anyway, the biggest air
crash zeppelin crash ever was a Zippelin called the Akron,
and the Akron was a dirigible or a zeppelin, and

(29:59):
they built it so it was also an aircraft carrier.
They could lower aircraft from and launch them kind of
amazing a and they could land them on the dirigible
on the ramp and take them back into the belly
of the craft. Anyway, they weren't Zepplins. There are helium

(30:21):
filled rigid airship US Navy. One went down at sea
and seventy three people died, which is much more than
on the zeppelin. On the Hindenburg. Yeah, so an extraordinary story.
That largest helium filled airships yep, largest flying objects ever built.

(30:51):
So there you go, and were the largest helium filled well,
largest largest helium filled aircraft. I think that the Hindenburg
was bigger. That was hydrogen obviously, So there we go.
That's a story there. I thought that was interesting. Unbelievably
big shed they used to build it, mess of massive. Anyway,
that's got that hour sorted out, twelve away from nine

(31:13):
if you thought that was interesting, getting touch here till twelve.
In the sweep steak, we're looking for the sweepstake prize,
which will be on Friday. That will be the team
that's going to win, and the margin to start planning that.
If you think the all Blacks, you might say all
Blacks eight, that's sixteen twenty four to the all Blacks,

(31:35):
you're a winner and you'll get the butter or the
Biltong or the mutton Ham and if someone else gets
it and you have to split it, which ue be
quite a popular event. So we are talking Zeppelins and
dirigibles and the sweep steak for Saturday and Biltong. They're

(31:57):
the topics so far. Tonight, the night is still young.
We've got well, there's a great deal of other things.
We will be talking about tonight if you want to
partake in this show, particularly for this last part of
the South, if you want to talk about Zeppelins, would
be nice to hear from you anyway, Marcus. After last

(32:21):
night's quick flurry of extental phone beeps, I don't think
we had one tonight so far. Quite disappointing over a
podcast from one October twenty twenty four I saved to
my phone. It was a good one with a call
who didn't do Daylight Savings three in one call. Epic
side topic. No football this week, Ralegate to international football
not the same. It's a super fan if they've got

(32:44):
their favorite podcast. I would never listen to a podcast
seem weird? Is the time in it?

Speaker 5 (32:53):
Dan?

Speaker 2 (32:57):
The time the people say the time in the podcast?
I'd say the time do I? There you go? You
think there'd be AI? I did it those out eh
flip AI. Getting sick of people talk about AI anyway. Now,

(33:18):
if you want to, if you've got to call about
a dirigible or a Zippelin, that would be good to
hear from you tonight. There's something else you want to
talk about tonight, good, I've got other topics. I don't
want people think, Oh, God's lush. He's talk about diridules
for four hours. I'd rather I'd rather watch paint dry.

(33:41):
But you'd never know if people were actually mad for dirigibles.
If be so often there's a story that someone wants
to bring them back, but it never goes anywhere. Just
saying that. But there's some very good topics coming up
for the show, so just buckle yourselves in. That'll be
probably the next out. If you didn't margin Dan, do

(34:03):
you want to just ask Ai how many different slots
shouldn't need if you're doing a sweepstake for the winning
team in the margin? How many would they suggest entries
we could take for that? AI would need to know Rugby,
wouldn't they? And what a sweepstake was it's going to
be testing for them or Rugby union margin picker? How

(34:27):
many categories would be? How many slots for a competition?
If they come through anything goodness, I might change my
impression of them. By the way local body elections, the
forms will be aut soon, so you can start voting
from next Tuesday. Vote early and often. No, I can't
say that, but vote early, don't vote often. Get in trouble,

(34:53):
I tell you. Well, I've got the Sports channel and
they're replaying a lot of old all blacks. So the
Africa matches on the endlessly. The when they're Beggy shorts
and their Beggy jerseys, someone says, Wilson Car Parks are
back in the news again. Thank you for that. Not
a company with great brand loyalty or brand favorability, is
it Wilson's. You don't see people getting the Wilson's tattoo

(35:17):
logot on their arm, do you? That'd be a fun
thing to do with a bad tattoo. There's a bad
tattoo competition. Have they got the understanding of it? Dan
was at the slight part of the day. How many
do they reckon? Idiots?

Speaker 4 (35:30):
Oh?

Speaker 2 (35:31):
Idiots? Yeah, no, no, you can't. They want five point
margins and stuff. Idiots. Honestly, what's Zuckerberg thinking from all
the electricity at that? It's just rubbish? Oh boy. By
the way, Father's Day is Sunday. Our great fighter Nicole, Wow,

(35:54):
Nicole's got the shield. She's in christ Church. It's gone everywhere.
Run in the cargo today. There's all sorts of people
on Facebook with pictures of it, all the cafes and
the bars, and it's been to Splash Palace, which is
where people go to swim, which is pretty interesting. I

(36:15):
don't know why, but there's that eight hundred and eighty.
If they come back with anything else, they've got no idea.
Oh no, not going to I'm not even going to
say that. I think they clearly understand it. I'm not
going to mention that to the people anyhow, Mark, because
it seems the only supplier of Muttenhams is Hibberds down south,

(36:37):
So you are lucky as I live the north of
the Muttenhams were a treat for Christmas as that was
all we could afford. How times have changed. Yes, I'll
watch this space. I think Muttinghams are coming back. Now
let's get ready for the next hour. I go to
chuck some topics that you for the next hour when
the next hour starts, because it's going to be quite
a topicy night tonight, just so you know if there's

(36:58):
breaking news where you are too. And by the way,
I've threatening this all year, we've done no breaking news
on the show. So for a long time breaking you
was happening all the time with the queen dying and stuff,
but recently nothing so reduce some breaking news. I don't
want to invent it, but yeah, something BIG's going to
happen soon. It feels like the time time is going

(37:20):
to happen. So yeah, be about that too. Just bewarrey
if you hear that breaking news sounds something big has happened.
From time to time, there's discussion about things we should ban,
like they ban cell phones at schools. I'll tell what
the Brits are doing in the UK. This has been
announced today in the UK. Under sixteens in England will

(37:42):
be banned from buying energy drinks such as Red Bull
and Monster because they fuel the beast. He caused sleep
problems and leave them unable to concentrate. Health experts, teaching
unions and dentdest welcome the bands so it would boost
children and young people's health. It fulfills a pledged labor
included it's manifesto for last year's general election. Energy drinks

(38:03):
might seem harmless, but the sleep, concentration of well being
of today's kids are all being impacted, while high sugar
versions damage their teeth and contribute to obesity. Shops, cafe
restaurants and websites will be prohibited from selling energy drinks
containing more than one fifty MiGs of caffeine per lad.
Anyone under sixteen, Red Bill, Monster, Relentless and Prime will

(38:25):
all be affected. Is that something New Zealand should look at.
How much of a problem are energy drinks for children's?
're on about tonight's If you want to talk about that,
that's a bit of a topic. Shift to that. One
oh eight hundred and eighty ten eighty. I mean basically
in New Zealand, we don't manage to ban anything really

(38:46):
because I think the grocery lobby has so much power.
Although I did ban single use plastic bags, didn't they
I mentioned probably before the election. I reckon probably act
or ended first, or try and bring those back. Seems
to be their lunacy. Lourie Marcus, welcome, good evening high.

Speaker 15 (39:07):
The Marcus year. Before you did the topic shift to
the energy drinks. Airships. Apparently Hackey was originally identified as
being an ideal place, you know, when they were looking
extending you know, the airship route from England which was
going go out through India and bothly come down to Australia.

Speaker 5 (39:26):
Stuff like that.

Speaker 15 (39:28):
It had those planning the routes or to check out
that Hackey was going to be the site of New Zealand.
But I think the Australian League of Things and perhaps
the Hindenburg and other things happened and went out of
favor that it was already you know, sort of had
been picked as a good site. It's eventually in probably

(39:53):
in nineteen thirty seven when they were looking for building
a base for the bombers, and they had already had
that sorted. The fascinating stories with the old airships particular was,
you know, old Amundson got into them in the nineteen

(40:14):
twenties and he did an Arctic flight with Factor. He
got financed by an American aviator and explorer, a guy
called Lincoln Elsworth, and they used they were using Italian
airships and did a successful fright to the point across

(40:35):
the It was across the Artic. Yeah, I supposed they
tried to cross the pole. I think that he did
it successfully. And the guy there was a general, I
think a General Nobile. He was the Italian brains behind
those particularships. Apparently the Italians were very well advanced with them,

(40:58):
and old guys like Mussolini and that were pretty pretty
much involved in the promoting the whole exercises. But yeah,
a month, and he had quite a few ventures after,
you know, his famous trek and then, I mean he
would eventually ended up bankrupt and sort of friendless in

(41:20):
the States at one stage. And it was just fortuitous
that he had a meeting with this wealthy guy that
wanted to do some exploring and he financed the purchase
of an italianaiirship. And yeah, they did a successful trip.

Speaker 2 (41:39):
It's a pretty brave thing to do because it seems
sketchy as heck, I reckon. I mean what I would
often happen, whether it be stewn down or bow down,
that'd be. They never seemed to be that reliable to me,
and incredibly hard to anchor them in storms.

Speaker 15 (41:52):
Yeah, that's true. True, You're the one they got was
called the Norde, I think, and there was quite there's
quite there was a book about it. And he did
carry it on with a bit more with airships and
then and eventually died in an air crash up in
the Arctic. Anyway. I think he was doing a rescue
mission for somebody else that was lost and in an airship.

Speaker 2 (42:16):
But I'll try and find that book and read that.
That's of interest to me than the woods. That's good.

Speaker 4 (42:21):
How many run it?

Speaker 2 (42:22):
Just the three of them?

Speaker 15 (42:25):
No, I think there was a couple of others. I've
got just got a paperback version somebody passed on to
me a while ago. I've only dipped into it a
little bit.

Speaker 14 (42:33):
It was called.

Speaker 15 (42:34):
Disaster in the Disaster in the Arctic ice crash by
guy Alexander McGee. That yeah, but.

Speaker 2 (42:46):
He surprised no one tried to balloon to the south
pole before they tried to walk. I suppose you're going
to run into problems, aren't you.

Speaker 15 (42:52):
Yeah, fuel well, that guy Elsworth, Lincoln els With, he
he was the one that went on and did the
first well round the circuit of the Antarctic by acraft.
Here he'd have to severl tries. Yeah, he's a great

(43:13):
story on his own basically.

Speaker 5 (43:15):
But yeah, what was his name?

Speaker 2 (43:17):
What was his name again, Lurry.

Speaker 15 (43:19):
Elsworth, Lincoln Elsworth.

Speaker 2 (43:21):
I look into that, thanks, Lorry. Thirteen past nine. Welcome
and welcome to a pivot if you don't want to
pivot to energy drinks. Also, the band is anyone's kids
or anyway? Teachers with the classroom gone crazy with energy
drinks I'm not kind of there at the moment enough
it's a bad thing or not. Someone said we already
have the energy drink age limit. I don't know that
we do, do we? I'll be surprised. I think Woolworths

(43:49):
has got one, but they don't enforce it or countdown
as we call it now. So yeah, it seems as
though there's vehemently been opposed in this country because someone's
texted through and says we've already got the energy band mate.
I don't know the guy ways calling me, but no,
there was a voluntary one from one supermarket. Oh did

(44:19):
you see the auroral last night? No action, no sign
for me. I were aware of a commoration commemoration held
to remember our merchant navy falling World War Two. A
genuine question was between a merchant navy and normal navy
when I when I was year eight two thousand and

(44:39):
four at school, a kid ate a bag of lollies
or the touch shop and went mad. They quickly banned
lollies from the shop. Shortly after I did get touched
on to our energy drinks also tonight. How much of
your problem are they? I think probably the more you
banded the more kids get excited by them. Although there
was that silly guy with his prime those prime energy

(44:59):
drinks that was a big trend there for a while.
But they're ghastly, they're terrible things. So yeah, that's something
you might want to mention tonight. Also too, that's on
the list, oh, eight hundred and eighty thirty fifteen past
nine Energy drinks and children, good or bad if you
want to mention that. Love to hear from you. But yes,

(45:22):
Wilworth to introduce a valiant violent but I'm sure they're
not enforcing it, and be very surprised if they're enforcing anything. Actually, well,
I wouldn't sell liquor and smokes, but I've never seen
anyone ask id for an energy drink. But I don't
think kids by their energy drinks with SuperMac just go
to the dairy they buy them. Not there's no tomorrow.
All lines are free. We're talking energy drinks eighteen passed done,

(45:43):
energy drinks and zeppelins. And also to the sweep steak
for the test on Friday that'll happen. What do you
want a surprise? Do you want butter or do you
want Bill Tong let us know even the people that
aren't supporting South Africa are going to the games taking
knives and buil tong and you slash it off as
you go, like whittling a bit, like whittling a bit

(46:04):
of ward, your whittle, your bill tongue and have a
bit to eat. I'm sure it'd be great to have
a food care of and that's sold built on where
they do that there. It's exciting. We've got to get
into that. Oh eight hundred and eighty ten eighty nine
to nine two to text who being touched? You on
to talk? All the lines are free eighteen past nine.

(46:25):
Some of the I don't want to throw the topics
at you, because the energy drinks is a good one.
I wouldn't mind them and put on that, although by
the looks of it, no one's it seems to be
the band that no one wants. No one's jumping up
and down to ban energy drinks. But that's what they've
done in the UK and often we follow that kind

(46:45):
of stuff, although I imagine over there it's probably just trying
to change the narrative because so many bad stories coming
out of the UK that that might be what they're
trying to do. But under sixteens will be banned from
energy drinks. One tin of red Bull will contain the
same amount of caffeine as one espress over two cans

(47:06):
of although it says unclear whether you can get them
from vending machines whether that will be illegal. That kind
of makes a bit of a mockery about it, doesn't it.
So Obasti Health Alliance doesn't like them. Seventy one percent
of teachers worry about pupils misusing energy drinks at school,

(47:26):
and seventy percent while elsewhere. The drinks create a situation
which pupils can't focus, can't sit still, and just think
it's called to drink them. Energy drinks make a very
difficult for students to focus and engage with learning, and
seems to make students noisy and agitated. Dentists urge the
government to go further. The bend should be extended to
include zero and lower low sugar energy drinks to help

(47:47):
tample tooth decay's that's what people are saying. Get in
touch by name is Marcus welcome oh eight hundred and
eighty ten eighty nine nine two detects some other stuff
I can tell about quickly tonight, Oh Marcus. The number
one item I picked up on the Fox Hills during
lockdown collecting the roadside rubbish was energy drinkers. So normally

(48:09):
like the trade's breakfast is it if you're a roofer,
it's normally an energy drinking a meat pie. Seem like
the trades exist on them. Don't want to say that judgmentally,
but just put that out there also tonight. By the way,
the next match for the women in the British in
the Women's Rugby World Cup is Ireland one forty five

(48:29):
Monday morning. Terrible times for us a Angela, this is Marcus. Welcome.

Speaker 8 (48:35):
Oh hi Mark, because I know this isn't dirigibles, but
you're talking about people going to the North Pole. And
then ninety excuse me, eighteen ninety seven some guys from
Sweden they went tried to reach the North Pole with
a hydrogen balloon and they were funded. They were funded

(48:58):
by our good allow for a Nobel Yeah and well
most of the he put a lot of money into it,
and the King of Sweden it as well. But yeah,
but nobody had tried. Prior to nineteen hundred, over a
thousand explorers had tried and failed to reach the North
Pole and there was this sa Andre like, yeah, it

(49:21):
was too easy of the end, and he took two
other people, but they they crashed and died. And nineteen
thirty some sailors were taking refuge by an island and
there'd been quite a warm summer, so the ice had
melted and they found the bodies.

Speaker 2 (49:40):
Yeah, there's a book called I think the book's called
The Ice Balloon. It's an extraordinary story. That's it's a
fantastic read, Alex Yeah, Alec wilkins Son, Yeah, a big
kind of they had a big they had run, Yeah,
because I think they survived for quite a long time
after the boom. Yeah, it was an amazing story.

Speaker 8 (49:59):
Yeah, they tried once and it didn't get through, didn't
get both done. They went tried again the next summer
and yeah they hang on. I'll just go back to
the map at the front. They because they sort of
walked from Yeah, they crashed in July, and they think
because they found their diaries that was earlier Floba. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 15 (50:24):
That's because it was.

Speaker 4 (50:24):
It was.

Speaker 2 (50:25):
It was a great fan for when they let off
and there was just no return, no sign of them,
and how many years forty years later.

Speaker 8 (50:31):
They found them just over thirty years later.

Speaker 2 (50:34):
Heartbreaking.

Speaker 16 (50:35):
Yeah.

Speaker 8 (50:35):
And then when they brought the bodies back, you know,
they had them all and you know, hearses and all
the people. Yeah. But yeah, but quite quite an interesting,
interesting story.

Speaker 2 (50:47):
Could seemed like quite a straightforward idea, just taking the
balloon to the North poleward.

Speaker 17 (50:50):
Yeah.

Speaker 8 (50:51):
Yeah, but there were a lot of people in the
States that said, oh, that's crazy. But yeah, but yeah,
the first one they went in nineteen sorry, eighteen ninety
seven in July, but three days later it was stuffed. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (51:09):
And I think if remembers right from the diary, from
the very beginning, it was sort of disaster. There were
strong winds that got blowing away in things, and.

Speaker 8 (51:16):
Yeah, and and they and they and they sort of
didn't realize how freezing cold they would be that high
up in the up in the air.

Speaker 2 (51:27):
I mean, I'd like adventure and balloons and do it
to come back, because all seem quite I mean, it
seems sketchy, but it always seemed like that, you know, it
seemed like it would be quite fun for brave souls.

Speaker 8 (51:37):
Yeah, and I suppose you know, I mean, the King
of Sweden thought I was a great idea I would
get give Sweden a whole tud off. It didn't look
like he didn't like to look like he didn't want
to be.

Speaker 18 (51:50):
Part of it.

Speaker 8 (51:51):
But yeah, that and how how so it was the
end of Alfred Noble Bell's life and he just had
so much money he said, oh yeah, I'll give you
fifty million kronas or.

Speaker 2 (52:05):
But yeah, when I when I think about balloons, right, mmm,
because you think of the Wizard of Oz and I've
just been rewatching that with Wicked and all those things.
Balloons were a great storytelling device because I enabled people
to leave their land and just re arrive in some
imaginary place. And that was quite popular literature because there

(52:28):
was no other way of traveling before that. You had
to walk or get in a boat. But with balloons
you could take off from anywhere and transport yourself mysteriously,
which was a great story device, yes and all.

Speaker 8 (52:41):
And how interesting it was when Montpellier brothers that you
know back in France when you're the you know quite
early on.

Speaker 2 (52:49):
Because the Wizard of Oz he arrived by balloon, didn't he?

Speaker 7 (52:51):
Is that right?

Speaker 15 (52:52):
If I remembered that, right, I have to pass on
that one.

Speaker 2 (52:57):
I think he arrived in the Land of Oz from yeah,
I think, yeah, someone let me go. I researched that
because I did a deep dive after watch the movie
about that. Pretty sure there's a balloon and the Wizard
of Oz. I'm pretty sure that's how I got to
munchkin Land. Love a balloon anyway to get in touching
you On Talk twenty seven again some text about energy drinks,

(53:20):
which is good. Marcus Kaffing is of a half life.
About five hours of a TEENA is a coffee in
the morning and ejuring the afternoon. They will carry forward
four point fifteen megs into the next breakfast. This will
accumulate daily, and after five days a team will be
carrying two fifty bigs as an adult. Energy drinks are bad.
I know this because I drink two to three a

(53:40):
day on average. Children should not drink them. But watching
the daar Ray see kids buy cheap for the drinks
and energy drinks and ny drinks because they're cheaper. Probably
good to get rid of energy drinks for kids. Keffing
is a drug. It's harmful. We accept coffee is generally
for adults because I soonly seem to be marketed at
children with those, especially that v stuff where it's sort

(54:04):
of garish cans and flavors. Maybe that would be my
take on that. I'm not for a band. I just
think probably people should be discouraged from buying it. I
think kids attempted once or twice. I'm sure our kids
have tried it, but probably they realized wasn't ready for them.
If they bounced around the walls for a while, I'd

(54:26):
tell what was always bad spirits mixed with energy drink.
She'd stay up forever. Wouldn't you like vodka and red bill?
You go for days? It was the beginning of the end. Next,
she just quietly This day. In nineteen ninety five, Internet
giant eBay founded by Pierre omni Jar this day and
fifty eight. The first open heart surgery in New Zealand

(54:50):
this day. In seventeen fifty two, the British Empire skipped
eleven days starting September three when adopted the Gregorian calendar.
It's pretty weaky, isn't it how he used to change
the way the days worked. Any who. Oh, By the way,
interesting articles say about Smith City Market, what they seem

(55:12):
to be the reason they seem to be real success
from the staff in the South Island because their loan
book you could buy everything on the tick, and that
kind of ties up with a lot of people's stories
last night that said you'd buy stuff for you know,
we brought our wedding thing on hire, purchase you tick
everything up. Well that was the way, wasn't it. Yeah,
that's what they're huge with that. That's what they got

(55:32):
wrong though, because then they moved to walk and got
the wrong sites. But ye're all on the tick, love that.
But now they're in voluntary liquidation. No one mourns the
wicked Oha eight hundred and eighty two nine de text
markets to have. If you've got breaking us, let us
know where that is and what that is, and we're
here for you talking balloons, dirigibles and energy drinks. That's

(55:58):
the situation lines fear you want to be a part
of the discussion tonight. Balloons, energy drinks, anything else and
the Wizard of Oz your thought he arrived by balloon.
What a trippy old book that is when you do
when you when you delve into it, bizarreble and plenty
of sequels actually written, which I didn't realize about Marty.

(56:18):
It's Marcus welcome.

Speaker 4 (56:20):
My Marcus.

Speaker 6 (56:21):
I'm talking about energy drinks.

Speaker 2 (56:23):
Great, that's it.

Speaker 6 (56:25):
Sorry. The energy drink I'm sort of experimenting with at
the moment is called musashi. And if I go mountain
bike and a little bit harder group than I'm used to,
I'll drop a massage on on on the way in
the car.

Speaker 2 (56:39):
I thought you'd be in the top group anyway.

Speaker 4 (56:42):
Uh wow, what's wrong with.

Speaker 2 (56:44):
You actually being in the midland group. I thought you're
a go getter.

Speaker 6 (56:47):
Uh well, I'm a massage I'm in the top group.
But if I don't have one of those, I struggle
a bit to keep.

Speaker 4 (56:54):
Up with that.

Speaker 2 (56:54):
Really, what have you done your knees in rugby or something?

Speaker 6 (56:58):
Yeah, I got one bad knee. But anyway, back to
the energy drink.

Speaker 2 (57:02):
If you drop a masa, is it caffeine?

Speaker 6 (57:07):
I think it's caffeine, But man, it makes your fingers
tingle and it makes you ride like quite fast for
probably an hour and a half. You should do too, No,
because it's the So I go for the apple. I
think it's called teeny apple or apple or something.

Speaker 4 (57:23):
You get it's like.

Speaker 6 (57:24):
Two for eight dollars at the pit station on the
way to the ride anyway, it makes your fingers tingle,
and I can go pretty hard for an hour and
a half in the advanced group. Yeah wow, do you
do you have a ke?

Speaker 2 (57:40):
Do you have a camel? Do you put it in
your kemel peg?

Speaker 6 (57:43):
No? No, I pre pre load?

Speaker 2 (57:45):
Oh yeah, of course your pre load yeh yeah, yeah, yep.

Speaker 6 (57:48):
Because then yeah, anyway, it just works quite well for
me if I'm if I'm pushing, if if I'm going
to push it, if I'm in the intermediate group, then
I wouldn't have one, you know. But anyway, and the
other thing, that's another thing about energy drinks like pre covid.
I mean, but old Red Bull was kicking around giving

(58:08):
out drinks all the kids and stuff, particularly at crank Works.
And now I think all the mums complained, wow, and
and and it's not really more fround upon.

Speaker 2 (58:19):
Yeah, well fair enough so that when your kid's been
giving that stuff that seems a bit sketchy.

Speaker 6 (58:24):
Yeah, yeah, yeah. And a popular drink in the nineties
at the old nightclubs was the old Red Bull in vodka.

Speaker 4 (58:31):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (58:31):
Yeah, it was pretty you'd be up for days. Yeah, well,
how much would have how much would have? Red Ball?
And vodka costs now Mary.

Speaker 6 (58:41):
So a couple's retreat A couple of years ago. We
went down to Billia Mudighan. I think I think it.

Speaker 2 (58:50):
Was was the couple's retreated at.

Speaker 6 (58:52):
A pub and we were at an airbnb. But we
went down we were town. We went down to Mulligan anyway.
I think that was twelve dollars or something.

Speaker 2 (59:04):
Oh, that seems quite reasonable, Okay, okay, I thought it'd
be more than that work out that the couple's retreat workout.
All right, yeah, brilliant, it's here, Marty. I picked my
son up from the crash once. It wore a chicken
suit as it was Easter. When I walked in, a
mum was just living with a toddler. The kid took
one look at six foot chicken and screamed the scream
of the damned. So I took the headpiece off the

(59:26):
suit and the kids screamed. A couple of mock Dave's aire.
My boy thought it was great. Taquina and Red Bull
Marcus keeps you up and get you twisted. For a
fair few birthday celebrations pre kids, this was my go
to drink to start off my night. I only needed
two of these, and my night was set to sunrise. Cheers,
rye b. It's a man and a woman, Marcus. I'm

(59:48):
a tradee around lots of different trades people regularly. It's
not that common re energy drinks, but the ones that
do are generally smokers as well. Getting a double hit.
Roofers and scaffold is the trade where it's more common.
And I've noticed too, Hello, Ben Marcus, welcome.

Speaker 17 (01:00:06):
Markets are hanging tonight, all right, good, thank you, Ben. No,
I wasn't. I wasn't a big fan of that red
bull and all that stuff. Too much sure for me.

Speaker 2 (01:00:16):
And also too, it's not often you try a food
with a taste is totally manufactured, doesn't taste like anything,
and that's weird to me.

Speaker 17 (01:00:26):
Yeah, another problem I had A turned me into the
racehorse commentator. Be good for the radio, but no, you.

Speaker 2 (01:00:36):
Want to be you want to be more chilled out.
You know, no one wants that. No one wants. No
one wants a motor mouth.

Speaker 17 (01:00:45):
The Woman's of Oz. That's a liberal Kansas. That's a
little house in Kansas. And Tomato ally and I'm pretty
sure I went I went ahead. I didn't get it
sort of wasn't my thing. But I'm pretty sure that
when Dorothy got blown away they had to bring it
back on a balloon or something apparently.

Speaker 2 (01:01:06):
Yeah, because anyway, because the Wizard had the Wizard arrived
and munch can land by a balloon. That's how he
kind of had so much power over them because he'd arrived.
Kind oft, they've never seen a balloon before.

Speaker 17 (01:01:22):
Yeah, well right where it is flaid. He wouldn't want
to walk because he just be stuffed after a couple
of hundred meters. It's just all dun players and drops
and stuff.

Speaker 2 (01:01:32):
Yeah, Okay, did you say did you say didn't see
the movie?

Speaker 17 (01:01:38):
No, I didn't see the movie. When I worked over there,
actually went to a freezing works in Liberal, Kansas and
next Fear it was, and I remember we had this
American track driver was outside of the sky. We took
was American truck driver out for for a bit of
lunch and we were just it was just showing off really,

(01:01:58):
and it was quite an older guy and that you know.
I went up to my just play along with it, mate,
play along and he's like, Okay, the waitress comes over
and it's keen Thursday today. Can you go and get
some of the girls and bring them out of cake.
And he didn't hear me say that the way. Next thing,
we girls come out with just a month and little
can want but you know, maybe birthday and he just

(01:02:19):
went bright read. Anyway, we had but a laugh and
the girls and says, oh, go and have a look
at the was a volt house. So we went around there.
It was just around a couple of blocks and where
we were. And as I said, I didn't go into
I think the others might have went and had a lot.
But yeah, that apparently, But apparently in that little town

(01:02:40):
they still had a few of those little people with
the munchkins or wherever they were called. Apparently they were
still there, little three of them.

Speaker 4 (01:02:48):
Whatever.

Speaker 17 (01:02:50):
I never thought that, well, I wouldn't feed them.

Speaker 2 (01:02:53):
I think the munchkins were in Munchkin. Then they went
and they went in Kansas, were you well, we're the
freezing we are the freezing works.

Speaker 17 (01:03:03):
It was called the National Beef. It was in Liberal
They could come up to look a really busy time
of the year, like say Thanksgiving or Christmas. Weather they
could kill up to twenty four thousand kettle in twenty
four hours.

Speaker 2 (01:03:18):
Did they hunt did they head hunt Kiwis.

Speaker 17 (01:03:23):
Yeah, they said because we were there to work. Well,
I'm not saying this out now, but the Americans didn't
like working that much.

Speaker 2 (01:03:31):
Now.

Speaker 17 (01:03:33):
We were told in the cargo by tomorrow morning. We're like,
he here, let's go.

Speaker 4 (01:03:38):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:03:39):
But I think that's why. I think that's why Prub's
going to have trouble with local manufacturing. They don't look
like workers either, do They look a bit bigger around
the girth.

Speaker 17 (01:03:48):
That's why there's too many Spanish Mixican people up there.

Speaker 2 (01:03:52):
Yeah, they're sending them back.

Speaker 17 (01:03:56):
Yeah, well that's going to be a problem. Yeah. I
don't know. I sort of liked them that I'm sort
of off them, and then I like them again, I'm
off them. I don't know how going to work out.

Speaker 2 (01:04:07):
But it's got a lot of interesting ideas.

Speaker 17 (01:04:11):
Yea, yeah, that real business sense and all that. But
the biggest fear I've got the the Chinee gletting off
their bomb day, you know, and all that sort of
carry on. That's what I'm worried about.

Speaker 2 (01:04:24):
Will you go back and work at the works there again?

Speaker 17 (01:04:26):
Liberal I work, I could, I'm not allowed there. So yeah,
have you got have you got?

Speaker 2 (01:04:35):
Have you got priors.

Speaker 17 (01:04:37):
No, no, no, we got hooked up with the immigration stuff.
I got Ben for ten years. Really yeah. I was
a sort of a a performance markets. We had oh
you know, we had the what do you call it
themgrassion people looking for us and we just had backpacks

(01:04:58):
on running out of our trucks front the keys and
the truck and running and all going like raped.

Speaker 2 (01:05:04):
It's a good story, Ben, Thank you eighteen to ten.
This is interesting. I got an email here. Suzanne Paul
of Natural Glow was one of the first people in
New Zentland to import energy drinks into New Zealand in
nineteen ninety six or nineteen ninety seven. The drink's name
was Blue Jeans. Came a thread of milk can cost

(01:05:27):
five to six dollars a can. Had some success for
one year, not a lot. Then Frucoorp brought out v
drink at half the price. Goodbye Blue Jeans. Do anyone
remember Blue Jeans?

Speaker 7 (01:05:37):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (01:05:37):
For a while there there was all sorts of energy
drinks that were around. It's a pretty sketchy ones. Also,
I think there was one called Top Secret. Do you
remember that? Like to see a documentary on the history
of energy drinks and there was lyft. Was it as
lyft still a thing? I don't know if that's still
a thing or not. But yeah, in the UK there've

(01:06:00):
been energy drinks to kids under sixteen. Children of kids
are young.

Speaker 4 (01:06:02):
Goat.

Speaker 2 (01:06:03):
That's why you got to say that, don't you. And
you get in touch if you want to be a
part of this discussion tonight and dirigibles or Zeppelins, we've
talked about that tonight too, and the banning of energy drinks.
To understand there's other topics once again about so many

(01:06:24):
there's a big debate in England about having ice and
your beer in the pub. Is he Wan a fan
of that? They reckon a court of adults have put
beer have put ice in their beer if it's warm outside. Yes,

(01:06:45):
I think the brewers don't like it because it weakens
a flavor. But I think it's a TikTok thing. And
also too, there's a thing where people it's a German thing.
It's called a diesel. People have half beer half Coca cola.
This it's no different from machindy. If it sounds a
bit rummed on it, then you put ice in it. Goodness,

(01:07:07):
drink is not what it once was, sixteen to ten.
If you want to be a part of it, Marcus
till twelve. There's any breaking news, I'll bring that to
you people. What have a sweepsteak on Friday night? For
the rugby? You want to say your team and then
you spread, So start practicing. The first thing you want

(01:07:28):
to day. The first thing you want to say is
your team, and then you then your margin. I'll enter,
I'll go a draw. Oh, I wonder if it goes
to extra time because of the rugby Championships. Yeah, let's
get see what you've got to say about that. And
putting ice cubes in beer? Is that one of the

(01:07:51):
life's great crimes? Maybe not. Of course the English have
their beer warm, don't they, So it's a bit different
for them. By the way, half of those people surveyed
don't take any kind of wallet out with them anymore
digital payment methods, So half people don't even have a wallet.

(01:08:13):
So kesh is disappearing. I'm not saying that's a good thing.
More than half of Britain's now leave their wallets at
home when going to the shop. Only forty eight percent
of Britain's consider carrying a physical wallet to be an
es central part of the day to day routine. That's
got a new cash. New data from cash ex s
atm netword link reveals four and five s to lon

(01:08:38):
a wallet, but don't use it. By the way, I'm
not advocating to get rid of I know people are
totchy when I say this. I'm not advocating to get
rid of cash. I know in christ Church after the
quake it was life saving. So I'm not empty cash. No, no,
not me, not anti cash, but it's on its way out. Also,

(01:09:04):
Derude sandstorms twenty five this year and there's a fun
run and its honor. What a great track that is.
You'll know the one dar Rude. Yes, and the world

(01:09:24):
rugby is urging men to learn from the women's game.
On engaging with fans. Yeah, because the women's game has
been extraordinary on social media with the insights they give
to the players. They're all dancing after the match. It's unbelievable.

(01:09:47):
It's so good. Just shame the time is so bad here,
but it's been an unbelievable tournament. Looking forward to your
calls before the news. You want to come through. Oh
eight hundred eighty ten eighty nine nine to text if
you want to text. Yeah, interesting to hear that. Hear
all that about the Old Smith's City Market was all
about the higher perch on the tick and the other

(01:10:09):
people that have gone back and saying about what it's about.
They said it was very successful in the South Island,
but didn't mix well when they moved to the North Island. Huh,
some texts I've put ice in my beer. I thought
it was strange at the time. It definitely made it
a week bit weak. I haven't done it before. Is
it twenty five percent of people who do it once

(01:10:30):
or often often? Apparently there was an energy drink called
Silver Bullet Tagline, a new breed of speed.

Speaker 4 (01:10:39):
If.

Speaker 2 (01:10:39):
For a while they're late nineties, everyone was having a
go at the energy drink market. There was all sorts
of sketchy ones. Mark's the have a regular customer who's
a lot of ice in her pint of ciders. She's Chilayan.
That's ry b. I think I made a bit of
a hash about saying the word Chilean. Now Karen Young's
texted for the sweep. She's got it all wrong, of course,

(01:11:01):
She's done twenty four twelve to the abs so it's
not about that. It's about the team that wins in
the margin, and we're not doing it till Friday. And
the margin is how much difference between the scores. So
so the all Blacks win thirty to six, it's all
Blacks twenty four. Say that South Africa wins with the

(01:11:25):
last minute drop goal, they're still worth two, they're worth three.
So yeah, but we're not doing that till Friday. I
know I've gone on about a lot, but we've got
other talk back to do tonight, so we're not there yet.
Oh but thirteen bucks. My pub charges thirteen bucks for

(01:11:49):
either of vodka and Red Bull or Jaegermeister and Red Bull.
Didn't know Jaga mice was still a thing. Just all
these things that's still around. So there we go. You
got the under sixteens band from alcohol or bound from
energy drinks. You got half people don't take the wallet
out anymore. And you've got a caller of the people
having ice in their beer at pubs. If you can't

(01:12:12):
get a conversation going about that, you ever got a
conversation to do. Though we're on about tonight. My name
is Marcus. Welcome Head or Midnight Tim's probably at twelve.
Get in touch, Marcus. I remember Top Secret from memory.
It was only available and one point five liter bottles
could be wrong though, be a good Facebook page to

(01:12:33):
be the history of New Zealand energy drinks. I think
there was one called Burn that Coca Cola did. Do
you remember that? Pretty sure it was called burn? Almost
convinced of it. Yeah, Burn. It seunds that light of

(01:12:59):
fluid though, doesn't it. And I'm not going to never
quite sure what concertant energy drink. I guess it's just
caffeine's sugar. And that touring whenever it was, that was
a big part of it too for a while there.
But you hold your horses for your Sweepstate will do
that on Friday. I know I've pre teased it, but
you know I'm excited about it. I've only just decided
tonight to do it. If you always got a prize
to donate, that would be great. Otherwise we'll buy a prize.

(01:13:23):
But I just thought you might be promoting something. You
might have a new product that you want to give
away to get some attention to. You might have some
new sort of bill tong You might be going up
against Fontira making butter something like that. I'd be all
in on you if you've got something to say about that. Oh,
eight hundred and eighty ten eighty and nine to nine
two text. If you want to be a part of

(01:13:44):
the show tonight, anything else, feel free to come through. Yep.
But mainly we've talked about dirigibles and bill tongue and
benning energy drinks for under sixteens as they're doing in
the UK. Yeah, so that's something if you want to

(01:14:05):
mention good, there's something different you want to chuck into
the mix. You can handle that too, that would be good.
So eight hundred and eighty ten de text they were
uped out with what's going on? Oh yes, no, no, no,
no attempts yet for the old for the old sweep

(01:14:25):
state yet, I'm afraid the sweeper. I don't know if
we'll do it after ten or after eleven, depends on
how the Warriors go. I think on Friday night. That's
mainly what I'm terrified about. I think they could make
the top four. Think of all the matches go to
form therein that's my understanding of that. Ten oh seven.
The topic tonight is energy drinks and the banning thereof

(01:14:45):
They've done it in the England. They've done it in
the England the UK. Should they do it here? No
one said, well, yeah, what's your opinion, Roberts Marcus.

Speaker 17 (01:14:54):
Welcome kidd Marcus.

Speaker 19 (01:14:57):
Look, I'm correctly if I'm wrong, wrong, but I'm pretty
sure if you go buying the energy drink and a
warl worse uh, and you go on the self service
it asks the machine comes up with you are eighteen
or over?

Speaker 2 (01:15:14):
Well, okay, yeah, I know that there. They themselves have
tried a bet. I don't quite know why they've done that.

Speaker 19 (01:15:21):
Yeah, yeah, well you know, you know, I guess health
authorities are cracking again and all that sort of stuff.
They say it's not good for you, but yeah, it
reminds reminds me of when when I was playing in
a social rugby team here in the middle of two
and after after every game on a sad day, would

(01:15:42):
mix up a concoction of drinks and I'd bring along
a billy five literre drench peck and drench gun from
the farm and would fill up a We'd fill up
a five leader container of rich ruby red, a bottle
of Pink Pink cheap pink bubbles and four kens of

(01:16:08):
red bull. Wow, and that would be our after match.

Speaker 2 (01:16:12):
It wasn't. It wasn't pre match No, I thought were
the red bullet might have been something to get your
team going.

Speaker 19 (01:16:21):
Yeah, well well, but it was to keep us awake afterwards, Marcus,
what was.

Speaker 2 (01:16:27):
The point of of after match? It was just to
get drunk quite quickly.

Speaker 20 (01:16:30):
Was it.

Speaker 19 (01:16:32):
Oh well, it was a social thing that you know, look,
it would be frowned upon now, I guess, but back
then it was just a norm for us. And if
would go on trips, that would be our to go
to and the local the local pub used to give
us a deal on it. So I think so that
if he priced them all out, all the all the drinks,

(01:16:54):
it would come to like forty five bucks. But if
we bought sort of sort of four rounds over the
whole night and like only charge of thirty for each film.

Speaker 2 (01:17:03):
So the ultimate pre loading, isn't it to get had
on the reach gun before you go out?

Speaker 16 (01:17:09):
Yeah?

Speaker 4 (01:17:09):
Well, year year it was.

Speaker 9 (01:17:11):
You know, well those are.

Speaker 4 (01:17:11):
The that's what it was like. It's sort of now
they wouldn't do it now.

Speaker 2 (01:17:16):
I hope you're cleaning the drench gun.

Speaker 19 (01:17:18):
Well yeah, well, well yeah, I'd wash it out on
a Monday morning and then just year.

Speaker 17 (01:17:26):
It'll be already.

Speaker 7 (01:17:27):
You know.

Speaker 19 (01:17:27):
I'd use it on the farm, but then I'd just
buy a new one of the local farmlands on a
on a Friday, and the whole thing starts again on Saturday.

Speaker 2 (01:17:37):
That from you, Rob, Thanks for that. Denis Marcus welcome.

Speaker 4 (01:17:40):
Yeah.

Speaker 21 (01:17:41):
I regarding the energy drink, I can tell you exactly
why they've been them. Okay, well, because years ago there
was a young gery in Britain. They headed four or
five and a reut of your short period of an
and it went straight to us harding a fatal heart attack. Sure,
because they have very bad side effects. I mean they

(01:18:01):
reckon that. They said on the news ially that they
affect people, the students can'tration and all sorts.

Speaker 2 (01:18:08):
Oh that was probably me. I mean it's just caffeine,
isn't it.

Speaker 21 (01:18:11):
Oh, isn't a bit more than caffeine. You'll see electrolytes
and all the other stuff that goes in it.

Speaker 2 (01:18:17):
I think the reason they've banned it is because the
reason they've given the UK they've banned it is because
of I mean, it was election from a policy of theirs.

Speaker 21 (01:18:25):
But it's because you think they should do it here
to be honest with people, And.

Speaker 2 (01:18:31):
The reason they've done it is because I just look
at the article, right, okay. But the reason they've done
it is because teachers are they're concerned about obesity, sleep
problems and leave children unable to concentrate. Is that what
you're considered?

Speaker 21 (01:18:44):
It wouldn't be a bad idea to do it here too.

Speaker 2 (01:18:46):
You got much? Have you got much? Have you got
much involvement with children?

Speaker 10 (01:18:51):
No?

Speaker 2 (01:18:52):
No, you don't have a teacher or anything, are you, Dean?

Speaker 21 (01:18:55):
No, I don't work because they've had an open heart surgery.

Speaker 2 (01:18:57):
Oh where how's that going for you? Is it coming
through it?

Speaker 21 (01:19:00):
It's good? I'm fine. I enjoyed love life. Now it
just don't work for who he is in the supermarket?

Speaker 4 (01:19:04):
Oh yes, really?

Speaker 2 (01:19:06):
Oh well? How long ago was the op.

Speaker 21 (01:19:10):
LA's last August?

Speaker 4 (01:19:12):
Oh?

Speaker 2 (01:19:13):
Great? Okay, Well that sounds like it's going well for you, Dan,
nice to hear from you. Thank you. Energy drinks yay
or nay? Ban them? I mean, we won't manage to
ban much stuff. The one always talks about banning stuff
that always becomes quite complicated, like what do you do
with vending? Machines, who enforces it? What about drive bys?
What about people robbing dairies for energy drinks? I kind

(01:19:33):
of thought actually that what would have with energy drinks
over time? People just get bored of them with never
that thrilling are they. I'm sure people prefer a nice
those tin coffees or something. If you want to comment,
welcome eight hundred and eighty ten eighty yay or nay
on that. The banning they've done the UK for people
sixteen and under, hang on, it might be under sixteen,

(01:19:58):
it might be sixteen under, and it might be under
sixteen under sixteen, So the banning of that. But if
you're a teacher, a parent with children that age is
is it a problem? Because I don't know that it is.
I'm not around schools. I've got children intermediate and primary,
but they're not on the energy drink market. I think
they've tried that prime. I think it was all that
hype about that. I found some cheap stuff the souper bag.

(01:20:19):
They didn't really like it, so still in the cupboard.
I think it's terrible. Jumping HITDLE twelve eight hundred and
eighty ten eighty Energy drinks, the energy drinks. Energy drinks,
by the way, twenty five years of Darude Sandstorm. Yeah,
I think that's pretty exciting. That didn't know it was
around for twenty That was a song that was everywhere.
You'll know it. It's the instrumental. Would you call it

(01:20:41):
a song? But yes, Energy Drinks. Maybe they need to
change their name. They should be called carefret of drinks.
What kind of idea does a sixteen year old have
to show their age? Well, that's why they're not getting them.
I see what you're saying. I don't know the answer
to that. Could someone tell me that maybe they just

(01:21:04):
don't know that the local dairy I got. I don't
know the answer, but there might be something you want
to say as well. People, if you want to come
through head or midnight, my name is Marcus good evening
fourteen past ten, keep your emails Marcus at Newstalks. He'd
be dot codos. It is something else you want to mention.
Feel free and remembering the old energy drinks from the past,
including Top Secret which I don't know, but I remember

(01:21:27):
burn and putting ice in your beer, frowned upon, yay
or nay. It's all the discussions for tonight still desperate
for breaking news on this show. It's been months. If
you've got traffic stories to let us know if they

(01:21:47):
didn't happening traffic wise, but yet blinds free if you're
a teacher involved in education, because I would have thought
probably with teachers with children misbehavior, it's not because of
any drinks, Isn't it because or because of undiagnosed attention
deficit or whatever they go on about. Now it says
an article, let's it says three hudred thousand people have
got ADHD or something for tenth of your populations got it?

(01:22:10):
Is that then it's not abnormal, is it? Don't fully
understand that, but you might want to mention that too.
So that's what we're on about. And we'll have a
sweepstake on Friday for the rugby. But you'll just i'd
either go after ten or after eleven. You'll just say
who you think is the winner and what the margin
is should be extremely straightforward, extremely straightforward. Three police cars

(01:22:39):
have blocked off Curry Lane and New Plymouth CBD. I'm
sure what's happened, Marcus. I work as a teacher aide
at a high school. I can testify the energy drinks.
They're not helping our students. It's possible for learning. It's
a problem for learning and re addictive, along with too
much screen time messing with their brains. Well, I thought
the phones were banned, weren't they? Sixteen past ten? Eighteen

(01:23:05):
past ten? In Marcus could use driver's license f I
d with that, hasn't fifteen? A girlfriend of mine designed
the logo for the V drink great creative campaign using
the insects gold Peter, Thank you, Peter gave Marcus welcome,
good eye, How are you good? Gave How are you going?

Speaker 4 (01:23:21):
All right?

Speaker 11 (01:23:22):
Oh good, I'll just drop the tractor off today to
a good friend of mine and Springston.

Speaker 9 (01:23:28):
Oh yeah, yeah.

Speaker 11 (01:23:31):
You can see the hills like the well, you can
see the something else from there. It's good flat land.

Speaker 2 (01:23:37):
Yes, what's the farms? He got.

Speaker 11 (01:23:43):
A dirt farm? Yep, sure it's it's definitely cropping.

Speaker 2 (01:23:48):
And sheep okay, classic.

Speaker 14 (01:23:51):
Yeah.

Speaker 11 (01:23:51):
So he was out there, well, his worker was out
there today in this old school John dere it's the
seventy eighteen. It's about one hundred and eighty horse pair
with over them. I think it was about a six
or seven paro reversible power on it. Yeah, and well

(01:24:17):
it's just sounds so good.

Speaker 2 (01:24:20):
Has he finished his lemming?

Speaker 4 (01:24:23):
Yes?

Speaker 11 (01:24:24):
Well yeah, yeah, probably just he's an early lemmo yep.

Speaker 16 (01:24:29):
Okay, yeah yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:24:32):
Did you sell him the truck? Did you sell him
the tractor?

Speaker 4 (01:24:35):
Yes?

Speaker 2 (01:24:36):
Wow? Is he like because that would be an old
trick to have on a farm, wouldn't it.

Speaker 11 (01:24:42):
He's old school?

Speaker 2 (01:24:43):
Yeah, of course he is. Yeah, because he can work
on it.

Speaker 11 (01:24:49):
Like Allan himself is. He's like almost clocking eighty years
as old.

Speaker 4 (01:24:56):
Wow.

Speaker 14 (01:24:58):
Yeah.

Speaker 11 (01:24:59):
Yeah, he's like one of the best farmers around as
far as like arable and sheep.

Speaker 2 (01:25:08):
Would most farmers work? Would most farmers work on their
own tractor?

Speaker 11 (01:25:14):
Not many?

Speaker 14 (01:25:15):
Okay, because well you need.

Speaker 11 (01:25:20):
You had not the problem with the tractors these days, Marcus,
is that you needed to agree to work on them.

Speaker 2 (01:25:28):
So I thought it'd be all computer chips and stuff. Yeah,
and they do that deliberately. So they've actually so you
have so you've got to go to the you've got
to go to the manufacture to get them fixed like
a charge premium series.

Speaker 4 (01:25:45):
You're onto it.

Speaker 2 (01:25:46):
Yeah, that's what I thought that. Yeah, God, thanks for
saying that. Cool dude, nice to talk Thanksgev. There we go.
That's a track to talk for night twenty one past
ten and as you drink Zeppelins and track to talk.
Have you got anything else that that's going to go
in there? And ice tubes and beer good or bad?

(01:26:06):
Eight hundred and eighty to twenty nine nine twicts anything
else you want to talk about? Feel free to take
a chance, come through. Let's be hearing from you. Oh
someone sent me a fairly fulsome documentary. There is robusts,
robust and growing evidence linking energy drink consumption and increased
risk of suicidal thoughts, anxiety, depression, other negative mental health

(01:26:30):
outcomes and young people. Seems he's in wants to help
younger generation escalate odds and mental health issues and in
OSK government for more funding for mental health the ignoramous
state of New Zealand. The latest scientific research shows energy
drinks a link to a high risk of mental health
problems amongst younger people. While these beverages can provide short

(01:26:50):
term benefits like increased alertness and mood, the chronic use
increase the associate with negative mental health outcomes depression, anxiety, stress,
and sleep disturbance. Energy drinks contained high levels of caffeine
and sugar, which could trigger anxiet like symptoms, jitteriness or
racing heart and mood swings due to the energy crash.

(01:27:13):
Usage is highest amongst adolescents and young adults, with research
indicating more boys than girls consume these drinks. It seems
to me they're targeted at children. It's not the fact
that children bother them, they're actually targeted at them. If
you look at that, it seems pretty disturbing. So you
might want to comment on that. You might be a parent,
you might have children, but just your talk about that.

(01:27:37):
Another text door says, I think the energy drink should
be banned in New Zealand. I have colleagues that drink
them all day at work. The same ones go on
and on about how badly they sleep. The energy drinks
have other stimulants like jirana. You've got to question the
amount of people diagnosed with ADHD. The number will explode

(01:27:57):
from January twenty twenty six as GPS and news practicers
will be able to describe Rittlin for adults with ADHD
with the new regulars. Every high has a low cost
the health of fortune. So yeah, the UK have been
Dagyr drinks. I'm looking at your reaction to that too.
Please your calls only drink energy drinks because they taste

(01:28:20):
better than Coca Cola. So although you know, would the
highs come the lows? But what do you even need energy?
I think probably what it takes you up and then
it takes you down. I mean, you're better off without
any of it. I think they've got a higher rest
resting state of energy energization, if that's the word. Looking

(01:28:41):
forward to what you've got to say twenty five past ten,
your comments please, by the way, if there's any adults
out there that consider themselves addicted to energy drinks and
what that's like or what that feels like. Craig gets Marcus, welcome,
good anything.

Speaker 16 (01:28:56):
How's it going good?

Speaker 2 (01:28:56):
Thanks you, Craig. How's it going with you?

Speaker 4 (01:28:58):
All right?

Speaker 2 (01:28:59):
Oh?

Speaker 4 (01:28:59):
Loved you?

Speaker 14 (01:28:59):
Then I just finished work.

Speaker 4 (01:29:00):
It's all good, good.

Speaker 17 (01:29:02):
Yeah.

Speaker 16 (01:29:02):
I've always worried about the energy drinks, like I've seen
of you look on the shelf and them and some
of them say not the recommended for pregnant women. And
I was working in a community communications company a few
years ago, and there's a young guy that was working
with us, probably early twenties, and he'd come to work
in his hands we have like a slight trimmer in them,
and we're always like, well, what's wrong with that? He said,

(01:29:24):
I haven't had an energy drink this one. They basically
scale down a bottle of v and then with a
half an hour so or not a half an hour
and a few minutes, it heeds to stop tremmoring. Well,
and I said to him, I think, I said, there's
nothing to be laughing about. I said, you really should
go to a doctor or something. It seems like you've
got a really bad addiction or withdrawals from not having it.
So that's just the energy drink. So I always worry

(01:29:45):
about those sort of people that later on in life
they may turn the hardest stuff and they.

Speaker 2 (01:29:49):
Get like a gateway drug, like they're first on the
red building, there on the bourbon or something.

Speaker 16 (01:29:55):
Yeah, well, after a while, I've always worried that after
a while, we're probably having like there whatever. After while,
it's not going to stop the tremors, it's not going
to have the same effects. Have to go maybe something
else like red Bull or something of that and weak
your way up. There's just maybe.

Speaker 2 (01:30:09):
Maybe he was getting completely cut at night, and that
was his way just to get himself manageable the next morning.

Speaker 16 (01:30:15):
Yeah, maybe so. But then the worst ones I saw
that two years ago was some kids probably would be
not even fifteen, walking down the road and they were
shearing a bottle of that demon adage drink between them,
and that's just really high and injury. It's like, seriously, yeah,
it's nasty stuff. It's like caffeine on steroids.

Speaker 2 (01:30:35):
Yeah, okay, demon, it's going to get sort of demonic
writing down the side. Surprise, surprise.

Speaker 6 (01:30:40):
Ye.

Speaker 16 (01:30:41):
Yeah, I think they put all these Yeah, they put
all these sort of pretty pictures on him, which makes
it a lot of the younger kids look at and go,
well it looks really cool and then yeah, but yeah,
it's not not good at all, especially like it should
be like you know, maybe in your older in life
you could touch it, but not a young kids, like
not even intermediate school drinking and stuff. It's like what
they're going to do to you later on?

Speaker 2 (01:30:59):
I reckon, you've got you haven't got kids in that
age group, have.

Speaker 16 (01:31:01):
You, Craig, No, No, if I had kids of that adrew,
I'll be seriously sitting I'm talking to them and going
that you need to be looking after your growing body,
that sort of age, not puppet for a caffeine and
all the other stuff that age.

Speaker 2 (01:31:13):
Yep, Okay, good stuff, Craig, thank you for that. Yeah,
I remember, Yeah, I kind of value remember demon. Yeah,
A lot of different they all kind of look blend
into one. They've all got that sort of similar sort
of esthetic. The energy drinks, haven't they, Well, most of them.
They're going for that sort of kind of dripping blood
writing on them, if you know what I mean, get
in touch with your talkie. Energy drinks. Should they be
banned or if not, whatnot? And then what a teachers

(01:31:34):
do to stop people drinking them at school. I don't
know how big a problem it is, because for a
long time it was all vaping. But teachers have told
me recently the vaping's kind of no longer a big deal.
They stopped going on about it and people stopped doing it,
which I thought was kind of refreshing. I wonder, why,
you know, how you go to McDonald's and get frozen coke?

(01:31:55):
Why can't you get frozen red bull? Be a good thing,
wouldn't it? Marcus? I'm a grandmar and once a week.
I like to lift by energy with a drink, always
looking for the lighter or natural drinks. Nothing out of
the market for long. Please can someone make toping to market?
We don't all want to be off our face or
have our heads spinning not you need someone my have
a suggestion for Jackie twenty eight away from eleven Man.

(01:32:19):
Name is Marcus. Welcome if you want to talk. If
there's something else you want to mention too, Yeah, other discussions,
other topics tonight and I'll give them to your people.
There might be your own topic. Under sixteen in England
to be banned from energy and drinks. Half of those
surveyed in the UK don't have a wallet anymore. They

(01:32:40):
just take out their phone and pay for everything with that.
Twenty five years since Standstorm by De Rude. Do you
remember that? One one of the great instrumentals of all time?
It's played always, always, always. I don't know if it's

(01:33:01):
played on the radio much, is it? I don't think so.
I don't know him which format would be playing it.
I'll give you a bit a beat so you can
remember what it sounds like. Actually, which play? Skin and

(01:33:52):
aving goes on that for three point fifty two. You'll
know it. But yeah, that's famous because what the actually
know they've done. It's a sort of a weird story.
It's inspired a running race, the World's Weirdest Fun Run,
which is inspired by that song. It's called the Derude
Sandstorm Rally. Quite a good idea. By the way. The DJ,

(01:34:17):
the finish DJ's name is Derud's that's the handle. So
there we go. I don't know how much he's made
from it, probably tens of millions. And now, how much
you'd make from a song like that? I say, how
much did Darude make from Sandstorm? Energy drinks? Is the
main topic though, I wait, hundred eighty taty and nine

(01:34:37):
and if there's something different you want to talk about tonight?
Good Derude has made over one billion dollars in royalties
from Sandstorm, making one of the most probable dance tracks
of all time? Would it be a billion? That's what
AI's saying. Is the first thing up. That's pretty extraordinary.
I believe it though, Wow, that's a banger, he says.

(01:35:02):
What they say twenty five to eleven? Energy drinks. It's
the main topic for tonight, and that's the thing your
band stuff, It's probably not that workable, Marcus. A barocer
a day is much cheaper than energy drink is slightly
better for you. However, a healthy diet and lifestyle means
you should need neither, Marcus. Some of my thirties and

(01:35:22):
I have a sort of addiction to energy drinks. I've
spent in the last twelve to thirteen years and shift work,
and I find that if I can take two or
three energy drinks, maybe six out of ten days. If
I'm being honest, I'm not sure if I feel any
boost of energy or anything like that, or whether it's
a placebo. A fair point, because you probably just yeah, yeah,

(01:35:44):
I mean you get into your habits, don't you thinking, Oh,
I want to do that because I don't want to crash.
My mum told me to have my greens every day,
so I have two cans of v Good on you, Marcus.
I work in the dental industry. We see so many
young people with lots of decay from energy drinks, which
you think the fluorid would have fixed that. Energy drinks
vary in sugar content, with a five hundred milk can

(01:36:06):
often containing between fifty grams and seventy grams of sugar
equivalent to twelve to seventeen tea spoons, though some can
be sugar free, while the sugar content can be comparable
to fruit juice. The high sugar combined with low pH
around two point five to three point three makes them

(01:36:28):
particularly harmful to dental health, contributing to tooth decay and erosion.
So no one's a fan of them today apart from
the shift workers. But ban them for out to sixteens
in the UK, is that's something that we should look at.
But banning nothing cut well, you know, banning, I mean,
banning's off. Banning's not always that effective, particularly if it's

(01:36:51):
still going to be in them around for the adults.
They can still get hold of them from vending machines
and stuff. I don't know who's got all the market
share of it either. I presume it's your big business
at sher Coca Colas and those companies. I guess they've
probably got their own brand. I think there's some local successes.
I went to a sales radio retreat with one guy

(01:37:12):
once at hond An Energy Drink is making a fortune
from it. Marcus in twenty years of nighttime talk back
and running annual news U Year's Prediction comps. Has anyone
predicted the introduction of age restrictions on social media platforms,
then that might be one for you. I don't know
if that's happened. Actually, I don't think that's happened someone

(01:37:34):
or No. Nineteen to eleven till twelve. We are here
and ballooning and dirigibiles and zeppelins. That's the back topic
for tonight. Quite interesting, he is. But the biggest dirigible
disaster of all time was not the Hindenburg. It was
the US Akron. Just a tragedy went down at sea.

(01:37:57):
Couldn't see the horizon, didn't know where they were. I
think they had a faulty ultimeter. Large McDonald's shake has
thirty teaspoons of sugar in it. Wow, how would they know?
There's a legal limit of thirty two milligrams per one
hundred grams of caffeine and energy drinks about the same
as coffee. The sugar, artificial sweetness and sodium are a
bigger problem I think. And touring is a bit of

(01:38:19):
an unknown. I don't know where they get touring from it.
I mean, I don't know much about it. They're also
featuring touring occurs naturally in meat or fish C two
h seven three. Yes, Pete, Marcus, welcome, you are there, Marcus, Pete,

(01:38:42):
I'm going well, thanks for asking.

Speaker 17 (01:38:45):
Oh that's good.

Speaker 22 (01:38:46):
I'm just working about those strengths and that. You know,
why are New Zealand's you know, they should learn from
others overseas countries not the UK and whatever obviously don't
done the research on it, so you'd think that we
would follow along with them. They've already done the hard work.

Speaker 17 (01:39:02):
For us, So why don't we just follow.

Speaker 22 (01:39:04):
Along with other countries that do what they've same ving
in Australia has been pretty much in all states, I think.
So why is this governmant you see an always slow
getting these things being like other countries.

Speaker 2 (01:39:21):
I think because the government's are compromised because they're getting
because you know, they're supporters, you've got the you know,
you've got to look where the funding is coming from.
When there's huge food lobbies and there's huge food lobbies
in this country. Every time they try to bring the
sugar text, there was all sorts of piffle came out
about white was so bad and the government's always buried it.

Speaker 22 (01:39:42):
Yeah, but we all know sugar's not good. You know
these people Oh yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:39:47):
No, I'm saying that. But also, yeah, what what's your
experience with the energy drinks and the negative Have you
got an experience of the negativity associated with them?

Speaker 22 (01:39:56):
I don't touch them. I've been a lot of work
sites and stuff and you see these one people drinking it.
You know, they're taking something to get them motivated or something.
You know is basically it's like putting something in your
car if you want to suit your car up, you know,
to get a motor and putting super gas in your
car or something. If you're doing that to your body,

(01:40:17):
it cannot be good for you. It's you know, no
doctor whatever. But it's not that hard to work.

Speaker 2 (01:40:22):
Are you wanting a band for everyone?

Speaker 4 (01:40:26):
Well?

Speaker 22 (01:40:26):
I reckon, Like I said before, they do it in
the UKPA now with your sugar drinks. They're doing it
with the vapes and that. So why don't we just
follow those come to that time? I said before we
picking myself. I've already done the research. They're doing it,
so why don't we just go along?

Speaker 3 (01:40:41):
It's your thing.

Speaker 22 (01:40:41):
Of the amount of money it cost us in New
Zealand for hospitals all these people there have got sugar
diabetes and all that sort of thing. The teeth are
falling out. Wouldn't be better to stop it so we
don't have those people come to the hospital. It's another
saving right there.

Speaker 2 (01:40:54):
I would imagine in the UK they probably the reason
they banned it is because they thought they could get
votes out of it.

Speaker 22 (01:41:00):
Well maybe, but it's pretty sad if you're going to
get votes to try to ban things.

Speaker 2 (01:41:04):
To do, let's governments do say look, get us and
we'll be an energy drinks and all these parents and
are paranoid will say I will vote for you. You
sound sensible.

Speaker 3 (01:41:12):
That's pretty sad. They're ready market.

Speaker 22 (01:41:14):
You think about that and you're going to do that
to get But that's.

Speaker 2 (01:41:17):
How democracy works. It's always it's always said what people promise.
It's heartbreaking, Pete, Oh.

Speaker 22 (01:41:24):
It's wrong. You know they should do what the best.

Speaker 2 (01:41:26):
If you ever tried have you ever tried energy drink?

Speaker 7 (01:41:31):
No?

Speaker 22 (01:41:31):
I haven't waited. I don't even hardly drink any coke
even that's bad for you.

Speaker 2 (01:41:35):
If I gave you, if I gave you a hundred bucks,
would you go and try one?

Speaker 22 (01:41:40):
No, not drink and I need them.

Speaker 2 (01:41:43):
Yeah, but I just if you're curious, if you have energy,
drink curious.

Speaker 22 (01:41:48):
No, it doesn't worry me. And I was like, I
wouldn't even worry me if all the berries dried up overnight.
I don't drink that much either, you know, it's it's
a bit sad when people have to drink to be
happy sort of thing.

Speaker 2 (01:42:00):
You know, you never sound down on spirits or tired, Pete.
You must be naturally quite a peppy kind of a unit.

Speaker 22 (01:42:07):
Oh just see things, you know, and it it's like
putting diesel on a petrol card doesn't go that well,
So why you do it to your body? Why put
something in and that's not good for you?

Speaker 2 (01:42:18):
Good on you, Pete. Nice to hear from you. Forty
five ten, forty five, fifteen to eleven. The chap that
rang earlier with the musashi and tingling fingers, it's the
beta alanine and it's a pre workout supplement drink, so
you have to do physical exercise afterwards otherwise you'll get itchy.
Hens touring was originally sourced from oxpile but is now synthetic.

(01:42:39):
It's used to boost production of testosterone and calm the
effects of caffeine. According to a famous doctor on the
Joe Rogan podcast, any drink's only tapping to your stored
energy and steals it instead of letting the bodies slowly
release it naturally. Hence why people crash on any drinks
and they do no more once its stripped you of

(01:42:59):
extored energy. Thanks great show.

Speaker 7 (01:43:02):
Yay.

Speaker 2 (01:43:03):
I don't know there is a legal limit of caffeine
and energy drink. Someone's said that. I'll google that up.
I wonder looking forward to your calls. By the way,
legal energy and energy drinks New Zealand, I've never heard
of that. The drink makers are governed by food stands

(01:43:28):
of Thority. Regulations mandate the maximum level caffeine of three
twenty megs per liter, but they've found a lot of
the energy drinks are well over that limit. See the
energy drink manufacturers are explorting a legal loophole if they
skirt the regulations by repacking their products as energy shots.

(01:43:51):
So you might know more about the industry. You might
be involved in the industry with a caffeine what's garana
and he drink? I think garana is a plant. I'd
give Pete one thousand dollars to try an energy drink.
I thought for me, it's going to say yes. They's
going to have to cough up CURDI marcus upgrading my
standard welcome. Let's see how it goes. Spring has sprung,
planted the garden with seeds and strawberries today, might have

(01:44:13):
a touch of sunburn. Will be adding veroa treatment to
the hive this week, and plum trees are and blossom.
Forget the energy drinks. A good dit and citrus is
very cheap at present, freshly squeezed orange juice to casual
lemon squeeded as well as healthy and refreshing. Kids don't
want healthy and refreshing kids want something sparkling and crazy.
Kids want kind of stuff on the shelves that jumps

(01:44:35):
out of them. I don't want a good dart and citrus.
It's up to the individual to have sugar. Just like
alcohol moderation. Pete's thinking of himself, like how you want to,
not how other people want you to. What's garana and
e drinks? Someone else might want to say, we want garanas.

(01:44:55):
I don't really know. I think it's a plant. They're
putting carver in them for a while. I think the
old as text of you using girana forever, but I
don't know about garana. I've got no one to see

(01:45:17):
energy drinks at all?

Speaker 4 (01:45:19):
Is zero.

Speaker 2 (01:45:22):
Yeah, even when I was working first thing in the morning,
that wouldn't be one of those people that was hanging
off an energy drink. You don't really see adults drinking them,
apart from roofers and scaffolders. As the person said, there's
always you go to a site after it's been with Ruth,
there's always a bin full of pie wrappers and energy drinks.
Old any love them. Looking forward to your text people,

(01:45:45):
great texts coming through and emails. Still waiting for the
great breaking news to it. It's not happening tonight. Looks
like they'll be deport Well, there's calls to deport this
neo Nazi from Australia to New Zealand, and I kind
of think you'd be more at home in Australia, you
know what I'm saying. He's been in Australia since a child.

(01:46:10):
Very good at the squash according to his father. I
thought that to worry I'm judging squash players on the
back of that. But yeah, I think his dad say
he was a great squash player instead of engineering. But yeah,
they seem to have turned on him, and even Australia,
who thought Australia, there's sixty thousand signatures saying to send

(01:46:30):
him back to New Zealand. But as a child he
came from christ Church and came to Australia as is
three or four years old. That's happened. Garana is a plant,
a bit like coffee, with twice as much caffeine, but

(01:46:50):
it's related more slow. It's releasa more slowly than coffee.
Marcus is it selfish to say I don't care about
the energy drinks. If not that it'll be something else.
Surely there's biggest problems like the methem feedoming epidemic. Well
maybe that's the game way here, hooked on the energy
drinks and the caffeine and the sugar. Then they upgrade

(01:47:12):
it and she's on it. People who don't drink energy
drinks think they're better than everyone else. I have a
class bate who doesn't drink energy drinks and thinks he's
better than everyone. Like, come on, man, don't judge us
for enjoying an energy drink. Yeah, fair point. No, do's
caffeine pills twelve dollars from Willis for twenty four contains

(01:47:33):
one hundred miggs of caffeine. Keeps you awake all night.
Love the show, this all the time, Grant marcaus. If
people want to drink anagy drinks, I don't care, but
there's not one thing in them that's good for you
except water. Energy. Drinks should be sold in shops. Alcohol
shops are only adults can have it. I wonder what
they're worth to a dairy owner, if you've got a dairy,

(01:47:55):
how much, because I imagine they're probably quite a big seller.
There's always a fairly large bit of the dairy devoted
to them. There's always big displays at the end of
the aisles. Man, they need to put them in playing
packs like the smokes. Hide them, they'd stop the kids
grabbing them. Comments, please, if you want to talk about

(01:48:17):
this or anything else in the final hour, hendled Gosh,
I'll tell you something about tonight. It's flowing, it's gone
on a heartbeat. But that's sort of interest to you,
probably certainly interesting to me. How about that woman that
got kicked off the flight from Sydney to Queenstown too drunk? Yeah,

(01:48:39):
ignoring cabin for instructions and dancing in the aisle. Of
course it would be embarrassing for her. I don't know
what would have happened. Maybe it was like flight delayed
and gave it a nudge. The story has happened ocasion.
You always think they must be incredibly confronting for the
person to try and work out what they're going to
do after that. Probably stop drinking. I would think it's

(01:49:03):
a fairly strong message. If you get kicked off of
play for your behavior, you think, well, maybe the drinking
is not working out. Maybe how was she scoffed the
duty free? Oh well, she wasn't named. She still might be.
I suppose it's probably a fairly big civil civil aviation crime.

(01:49:25):
Is it?

Speaker 4 (01:49:27):
This day?

Speaker 2 (01:49:28):
Nineteen fifty at the first open heart surgery in New Zealand? Wow?
And the internet giant eBay fan of this day in
nineteen ninety five eBay still occasionally very occasionally. Well are
we discussing energy drinks in the UK? They're banning them
for people under sixteen. A lot of people got strong
views on energy drinks. I don't know if people want

(01:49:48):
them banned, but no one likes them, it seems. I
don't think they really belong on the food pyramid. But
I tell you what about energy drinks, it's not something
that's a flesh in the pan. They've been around since
the mid nineties, so they've been here thirty years, so
a lot of money in them to how much the
energy energy drink market's worth of New Zealand. Because no

(01:50:11):
one's going to ban them, what will happen is to
just donate money to the political parties, seems to what
always happens.

Speaker 4 (01:50:17):
Now.

Speaker 2 (01:50:20):
Combine energy drink market approximately valued at four hundred and
seventy one US million, make that seven hundred million. It's
a lot, and most it'll be kids, wouldn't it fifty
percent kids? So yeah, they're doing nothing to get the
government be gutless to ban them, but certainly in the
UK they have done that. So yeah, seven hundred million,

(01:50:44):
I'm putting that out. It's four seventy one New Zealand dollars.
What do four to seventy one dollars n Z to us?
Because that was just it. Oh, I've done it the
wrong way around to come out as less.

Speaker 4 (01:51:06):
I get it.

Speaker 2 (01:51:06):
I'll get it. Eight O three eight hundred. It's almost
a billion dollars four fifths of a billion dollars energy drinks.
They're not going to ban them, huge market. I'll dept
the texts, but your comments on this people, I love
a V drink. I love a V thick shake from

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night and day. That's Richie Marcus. When I lived in
Western Australian work there, I had an unhealthy obsession with
V drinks, the blue bottles and cans. I was hoked.
My blood pressure was sky high. It was becoming a
serious issue. But now I'm back on water. It's much healthier,
but my blood pressure and nerves are still shot. Why
did Ken Clark decide that to mix with the worst
leaders on the planet in China certainly shows where the

(01:51:49):
priorities lie. Gavin, I want to talk to you tonight,
but I'm staying with family and don't want to wake them.
Energy drinks are rubbish, especially for young ones. It's about
creating addiction to so targeting the vulnerable kids as easy
for the promoters. Sadly enjoying your topics. Thanks regards, Jenny G. Marcus,
great show tonight, Thanks for your work. Your trooper are

(01:52:11):
thinking of Father's Day. I haven't seen my daughter for
ten years now, I won't to see her this year,
I presume. Just wanting to give a shout out to
all the dads who are strange from the children through
no fault of their own. It's a hard road to travel.
Of course, I'm costantly thinking of my daughter. Also have
two grandchildren I have never seen I love so much.
So just a thought to dad's who have a huge
hole in our heart, missing our kids. Even though she's

(01:52:32):
not a kidney Moore. Energy drinks cause kidney stones and
kidney stone pain is one of the worst. It's a
text looking forward to your cause on energy drinks twelve
past eleven and dirigibles and Zeppelins eight hundred and eighteen
out here in Hettel twelve nine to nine to de text,
what have you got? People? Come on, let's get zippy

(01:52:55):
in the last hour. Who wants to come through and
defend them? I'd love to hear defending energy drinks because
I mean, you know, people like them. Of course, people
drink a lot of coffee. That's pretty much energy drink,
isn't it anything else you want to mention too good?
That's what we're about tonight eight hundred and eighty Teddy
telling you on Friday, whatever sweep steak on the rugby,

(01:53:16):
it will be the winner and the spread. That's the
gap between the two things, the spread and the winner
Friday after ten or after eleven. I haven't decided because
its pretty boring from a host to do a sweep steak.
Anything else you want to mention, it's important tonight. Remember
to get yourself your voting forms to the local body elections.
Voting starts next Tuesday. That's important. So yes, do come

(01:53:40):
through if you want to talk. All the lines are free.
There's other stuff happening out there. But this is what
we are talking about. And so many energy drinks anyone
out there hooked on them too, by the way, that's
used hundreds of them. Get involved if you want to
talk about that. Also, how big a habit did it
get for you? How many a week were you drinking?

(01:54:06):
This is Marcus welcome.

Speaker 4 (01:54:09):
Yeah you go America.

Speaker 2 (01:54:10):
Good dave you all right?

Speaker 4 (01:54:13):
Yeah, pretty good. I sawah a game of rugby about
or three months ago between Italy and South Africa and
it was refereed by a little Holly. You know she's
an international referee, Yes, and she's she's we tiny thinks
she's got a button on top of her head. You know,

(01:54:34):
she's I'm not sure. I think she's from the UK something. Yeah,
that's heir. Is she Scottish? She'd have to be, because
towards the middle of the second half she was getting
pretty feisty in the in the small line is pretty

(01:54:58):
close and all of a sudden, the camera goes on
this Africa and he's lying on his back on the
ground and there's high ties on top of him and
he's going by the neck. Next minute, the handbags are
all out, they're all into it. Well, there was one
bole the whistle and she's in amongst them, and she

(01:55:20):
grabbed that big bike with the mohawk and he's about
sitting football. She grabbed him. She threw him out of
the road. She said, get out of there, you know,
and she's it was so funny to watch, you know.
And the announcer said, well, I've got to admit, she's
got more currents than I've got.

Speaker 2 (01:55:39):
Ye, there's something about it. It seems like she quite
enjoys it, because she seems yeah, I don't know, there's
something about her.

Speaker 4 (01:55:46):
Yeah, I got I got an old of a kick
out and a lot of a lot of people didn't
see the games. Someone going in the air of the morning.

Speaker 2 (01:55:57):
But anyway, no, I hadn't seen it. Who'd you say
it was at least South Africa? And yeah, what was
the score?

Speaker 4 (01:56:06):
Oh, I was pretty close. I think I think it
was like twenty eight twenty or so. Yeah, final school.
You can't really remember now what the final school was.

Speaker 2 (01:56:18):
But forty two twenty four.

Speaker 4 (01:56:22):
Yeah, yeah, you got it. And yeah, she's a character
that was.

Speaker 2 (01:56:30):
Do we know who the referee is on Saturday?

Speaker 4 (01:56:33):
I do not know.

Speaker 2 (01:56:34):
Do you know who Dan is the reff on Saturday?
Is it the same? Hope it's that Ossie guy. I
thought he was great. I'll find out for you.

Speaker 4 (01:56:41):
Dave.

Speaker 2 (01:56:42):
Good to hear from your speaking of referees to I
like the story too. There's that rugby league game, women's
rugby league in the UK and yeah, and women's Super League,
Women's Super League and one of the women asked the
referee which of the players he was shagging and she
got sent off sent from the field made peach. Seemed

(01:57:06):
to be an appropriate question, by the way, Carl Dickinson,
is the ref on Saturday? Need your calls? Twitter out?
Past eleven? How are you people, what's happening? I used
to deliver for Pete Pepsi In the nineties, Icon and
Red Bull were popular, but then E two was best
selling item. Met the Mowbrays would have gone to China,
Jack good Point. I was pleased Helen went to China.

(01:57:27):
Was celebrating eighty years since World War Two. We have
friends with China, and our imports and exports are keeping
our economy afloat. All of the guests were three with
total respect, unlike when dignitaries go and visit Trump. I
thought Putin could have been a bit hard to handle that,
you know, when he's invading Ukraine and Kim Yong On.

(01:57:48):
He's problematic. Marcus Great Convo. I was energy drink fan
for years, not so much now, but was amazed to
learn recently that KFC now sells energy drink five hundred
milli Monster energy cans with their combos or. That does
sound bad. It's become so popular to the point where

(01:58:09):
the kasher will say Monster for the drink instead of
Coke for the drink. My brother drinks the white Monster
zero sugar version daily. Wow, that does sound like a
deadly recipe. Bucket of fried chicken in the Monster. Your
blood pressure up and your cholesterol. Wow, that's a once

(01:58:30):
a year treat, isn't it. I haven't read much of
the discussions from the march and the parade in China
and how Trump's supposed to interpret that. But the parade
even had robotic dog drones, which is slightly terrifying, and
there's a lot of new military hardware that was unveiled. This,

(01:58:53):
of course is to honor their eighty years since their
victory over Japan and World War Two. They're all talking
about the new world order, and that's what it shows.
But it appears to have grabbed the attention of Trump,

(01:59:13):
who posted accusing Zev consparring against America with the others.
And the Chinese leader said in his speech that his
country is on the right side of history. So yes,
So China filling the vacuum left by the US. So
that's probably the worry. And a Chinese led world order

(01:59:36):
where territorial integrity and human rights are very less than
raw power and economic development. So if the world certainly
changed with Trump, and also to let's not forget old
India and the tariffs, so yes, I feel the things
about the world are speeding up. But yeah, those robot

(01:59:58):
dogs were kind of terrifying. It's got a lot of
weapons and focusing on missiles and by the way, doing
very well with a I and with drones, which are
with the future twenty six away from twelve. Brendan, this
is Marcus.

Speaker 6 (02:00:17):
Good evening.

Speaker 12 (02:00:19):
Yeah, hey, good evening. Good evening, Marcus, and have a
great weekend.

Speaker 2 (02:00:24):
Hang on Tuesday. It's Wednesday. Is it Wednesday?

Speaker 18 (02:00:26):
It's Wednesday the macaby, Yeah, that's Wednesday. But anyway, my daughters,
did China, you know, their victory day? Did they do
they win some battle against Japan or was it just
America just stopping it all?

Speaker 2 (02:00:49):
Well, yeah, Japan had occupied them. I don't know the
full details about China and Japan at the end of
World War Two, but yeah, you're right, because because sorry
Japan and canditional surrender, didn't they Yeah?

Speaker 12 (02:01:09):
Against yeah, against America? Yeah, yeah, because you know American
they've dropping those those bombs on Japan and stuff like that.
I just can't recall. I might have to google it.
I just can't recall how China had their victory day

(02:01:29):
with Japan.

Speaker 2 (02:01:30):
I don't know, I don't Can you say, yeah, your
phone line is terrible, but I don't know, I don't
know what the actual so eighty years obviously fort nineteen
forty five.

Speaker 20 (02:01:43):
Yeah, anyway, Mark, there's a pretty big Wikipedia page about it.

Speaker 12 (02:01:56):
Yeah, all Black said South Africa. Did they have a
time when they him as faith.

Speaker 2 (02:02:05):
Seven o'clock.

Speaker 12 (02:02:08):
In the evening or the morning?

Speaker 2 (02:02:10):
It's a new it's in Auckland.

Speaker 12 (02:02:12):
Oh okay, true, Hey, thank you, and you have a
really good night, Marcus.

Speaker 2 (02:02:17):
And a good weekend. Thanks for that. So yeah, God,
are you Brandon brilliant? So you might know some more
details about the Japanese surrender in China that they are
celebrating this day. It's a bit sketchy. On the old Internet,
it says after the Allied victory in the Pacific, General
MacArthur order all Japanese forces within China, Taiwan and France

(02:02:41):
to surrender. But that's not on this data. Oh yes,
in the Japanese troops in China formally surrendered on ninth
September nineteen forty five at nine o'clock. Oh unless sorry,
this is this history they are celebrating or commemorating, celebrating

(02:03:02):
during the Second Sino Japanese War, the Jeopanese consistent technical
success but failed to achietrategic results. Although it sees the
majority of China's industrial capacity, it occupied most major cities
and relost a battle. Japan's occupation of China was costly.
Japan had approximately fifty thousand military fatalities each year in
two undred thousand wounded per year. In less than two weeks,

(02:03:25):
the Quanting Army, which was primarily Japanese fighting force consisting
of a million men but lacking an adequate armor, a
tillery or air support, had been destroyed by the Soviets.
Japanese Emperor Herihito officially capitulated in the Allies on fifteenth
August done forty five. The official surrender was signed aboard
the battleship USS Missouri on second of August nineteen forty five,

(02:03:47):
and a ceremony with several houred commanders, including Chinese general
Shu Shang Sang were present. So the Soviets were there.
It's pretty interesting, But do get in touching on a
talk eight hundred and eighty taty and nineteen nine two
detects if you've got some more history about that would
be of interest. Oh, by the way, split ends is

(02:04:07):
back for Electric Avenue in christ Church, so I don't
know who the lineup is. That's huge for them. So
Tim and l Finn are reforming, but I don't know
who else is in the band with them. So it
goes from strength to strength that it's got a huge
lineup Hagley Park, twenty seventh and twenty oth of February.

(02:04:34):
It goes for two days. I think now it's sort
of gone from strength to strength to strength. It might
be something you want to mention, Dave. You're going to that,
You're going to go to Electric Avenue.

Speaker 14 (02:04:44):
Hagley Park. Goodness me must be outdoors at or sad
like venue.

Speaker 2 (02:04:50):
Yeah, but that's been going for years. You'd be familiar
with that, wouldn't you.

Speaker 14 (02:04:55):
Well I am sort of familiar, but not when you
said split ends that sort of thrown me off.

Speaker 4 (02:05:00):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (02:05:01):
Well I didn't even know they were still even know
I was still capable of reforming or me.

Speaker 14 (02:05:07):
No surprising whether it's sleep but.

Speaker 2 (02:05:10):
By the looks of the article, it's just the two
brothers and I don't know who's going to be in it. Actually, no,
are you tied?

Speaker 14 (02:05:20):
Yeah, I'm going to have a look. I don't know
whether it's a free.

Speaker 2 (02:05:26):
It's not, it's not free.

Speaker 4 (02:05:29):
Well, how much it costs?

Speaker 12 (02:05:32):
Here?

Speaker 7 (02:05:32):
You go?

Speaker 2 (02:05:36):
Gosh, I'm doing a lot of typing on the internet tonight.
Olymptic Avenue ticket cost? How much are they there?

Speaker 6 (02:05:42):
Are?

Speaker 2 (02:05:43):
Like they're like eighty nine dollars for a week in pass?

Speaker 14 (02:05:49):
Have a two eighty nine, two hundred.

Speaker 2 (02:05:51):
And eighty nine for a week in pass?

Speaker 14 (02:05:54):
Oh no, Marcus, I wouldn't pay that.

Speaker 4 (02:05:56):
No.

Speaker 14 (02:05:59):
I just heard a couple of dozen oysters.

Speaker 2 (02:06:01):
Do you want us to do?

Speaker 4 (02:06:01):
You want to do?

Speaker 2 (02:06:02):
You want us to do? You want us to see
you there? As the ZB Nights correspond.

Speaker 14 (02:06:06):
And yeah, here, wouldn't mind. And I want to markets.
I've got a question question only for you, yea, what
is it? How much does this Paris accord costing us
cost and costing New Zealand how much does the cost
of the country markers?

Speaker 18 (02:06:23):
Can you understand?

Speaker 17 (02:06:25):
Yeah?

Speaker 14 (02:06:26):
Three hundred million dollars a year, three hundred million dollars
a year to belong with this Paris accord? Goodness me, and.

Speaker 2 (02:06:35):
I've got some more stuff about the the Oh yeah, yeah, okay,
thread a million is sure, yes, but see all three
of them agreed to do it. That the Act and
it's part of the agreement.

Speaker 14 (02:06:51):
I think the heddred I really do. Goodness me, that's
a lot of money.

Speaker 2 (02:06:57):
I'll tell you what international international trading conditions is complicated?

Speaker 14 (02:07:04):
Well you cutting out there. I couldn't make that, Marcus, I.

Speaker 2 (02:07:07):
Said, international trade and its regulations is complicated.

Speaker 14 (02:07:12):
Absolutely as complicated. I know, the very comp We sort
of talk about hundreds of millions and billions this day
and age like it's a drop on the puddle, like
it's what's only our sex players who pay it? Of
course as we you know, the bark feeders, you know
who struggled potatoes. Hundreds of millions of dollars. Goodness, it's

(02:07:32):
a lot of money, Marcus.

Speaker 2 (02:07:34):
Nice to hear from you, Dave. Thank you. Just the
latest on Split Ends, celebrating the fiftieth anniversary since Splitoons
released the dable Weller Mental Notes. The band of accepted
invitation Repair at There to giving you a festival in
christ Church on feb twenty seventh. The band This were
the first time the band have performed together since appairing
as part of Sound Relief in two thousand and nine.

(02:07:55):
What was that to do for the reef of it's
not the quake, is it good? Someone tell me we're
about sound relief. In two thousand and nine, Original Ends Brethren,
Tim Finn, Noel Crombie, Neil Finnilli Rayner will be joined
by Matt Echles on drums and James Milne on bass,
with the vast range of amazing songs of the band's repertory.

(02:08:17):
The challenge will be what songs to be included on
that hot summer night at Hagley Park. It feels the
time is right to play these songs again. We eagerly
wait the chance to create a memorable experience of people
of christ Church. Alta Tahi and beyond. Brilliant Sound Relief
two thousand and nine. Oh, it was an Australian thing.

(02:08:38):
Sound relief was for the bushfires in Victoria. They're all
there for that. It's quite a big deal. Kings of Leon,
Paul Kelly, hunters and collectors. What a great band they were.
Can this is Marcus? Welcome, good evening.

Speaker 23 (02:08:55):
Hi, Marcus. I ask quite interested.

Speaker 4 (02:08:59):
In this.

Speaker 23 (02:09:02):
Event in China celebrating the end of World War Two,
And when I had heard that, I got to thinking.
And I consider myself a little bit of a history
buff But you know, I was struggling to recall what
China's role in World War two was, so I had

(02:09:22):
a moment I googled it. May I threw up an
answer that China was at war with Japan in nineteen
thirty seven, which was the Sino Japanese War, long before
Japan entered World War Two. But apparently China is credited
with taking out hundreds of thousands of you know, Japanese

(02:09:44):
troops in that war and stepping their.

Speaker 2 (02:09:52):
So their ability for world domination was stymy because China,
because China was fighting them on so many fronts in
China and limiting their supply lines and their ability, I guess.

Speaker 23 (02:10:07):
And when and when the war was being over the
Allied forces, you know, there were the main allies referred
to as the Big Four, and China was one of those.

Speaker 2 (02:10:21):
So what was the role with the Soviets.

Speaker 23 (02:10:23):
That I don't know was investigate it used to you, yes, definitely,
because the Coves were the somethings were. They were our
allies by the end of the war. So I can't
I've got to read up on it because I'm obviously listening.
There's some big gaps there of knowledge. I know nothing about.

Speaker 2 (02:10:47):
I had no idea about that.

Speaker 23 (02:10:49):
Yeah, yeah, the World War Two, you know, apart from
the you know, the entertainment media like I enjoy watching
you know, war movies or movies of that period, you know,
And it's it's hard to it's hard to imagine what

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life would have been life during World War Two, you know,
because you know, if you compare that to what's happening
now in the world. You know, I think the people
that through World War Two and it's worse would say
that that that was much much worse than what's going

(02:11:34):
on in the world now, even though what's going on
in the world now is is terrible.

Speaker 2 (02:11:41):
But I think people are worried that it could be
a precursor to a global I think that's what they're seeing,
aren't they.

Speaker 4 (02:11:48):
Is it?

Speaker 2 (02:11:48):
Yeah, that that stability since World War Two now seems threatened.

Speaker 4 (02:11:53):
Yeah.

Speaker 23 (02:11:55):
Yeah, it's it's on such a fine line, you know,
between peace and war is a very fine line, very fine.

Speaker 2 (02:12:05):
You have to do some research. You might have to
do some research for us about the Soviet invasion of
Manchuria because yeah, and I guess they've got a shared board. Well,
I guess there's a shared border.

Speaker 14 (02:12:17):
Yeah, I'm not sure.

Speaker 23 (02:12:18):
Geographically, I'm not sure about that. Yeah, anyway, there's some
It just got me thinking and I thought, you know,
I'm definitely going to read up on some of that
because I'm very, like saying, very interested in it, you know,
and history. The other thing that fascinates me is the decade,

(02:12:40):
the big decade for America, which was you know, say,
nineteen sixty to nineteen seventy.

Speaker 4 (02:12:46):
That's a fast.

Speaker 2 (02:12:50):
Yeah, nice to talk. Thanks Kin.

Speaker 1 (02:12:53):
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