September 10, 2024 • 12 mins
FIRST WITH YESTERDAY'S NEWS (highlights from Tuesday on Newstalk ZB) So Hard to Be a Gang Member These Days/So Hard to Be a Mill Worker These Days/So Hard to Be a Princess These Days/Privacy Is Dead/Get Off My Phone
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Speaker 1 (00:09):
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Speaker 2 (00:23):
Made for Beetnings and Welcome to the Bean for Wednesday.
First with yesterday's news, I am ben Hart and oy
are looking back at Tuesday and where will the millwork
workers go now that the electricity is too expensive for
them to do their jobs? It's complicated scenario, isn't it.
(00:44):
Princess Kates Odd overproduced video? You have a word on that?
I add selling your details to social media? What's going
on here? And phone snooping? Where you're looking at your
(01:06):
partner's phone? Is that kosher before any of that?
Speaker 3 (01:11):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (01:11):
So cracking down on gangs? Can new laws about gang
members not being old to wear what they want in
their own houses? Can that possibly be police?
Speaker 4 (01:24):
If you're going to keep wearing your patch, then it's
probably pretty likely that you're going to ignore other laws
as well. But I don't know why they didn't just
come clean on that. It's the Operation Raptor approach that
the Australian police used, Niggle niggle, niggle every time one
of the Aussie gang members went out in public what
(01:45):
they were wearing, what they were driving, what they were riding,
was just put through the ringer and it was just
constant niggle. And if that's what it's for, fine, I mean,
I still think it should have been put through at
the right time. You can't even thought bubble and pop
it into your bill. If they forgot, then it should
(02:08):
through the process and do it properly. But to say
we're giving the police powers to stop recidivist gang members
from wearing patches in their own home, to me so silly.
If you say we're giving the police powers to naggle
(02:30):
the living daylights out of recidivus gang members, fine with that?
Speaker 2 (02:34):
Do you reckon it happens that much? Like or when
I get home, I just want to put the track
pants and my sloppy sweat shirt on. Do they have
their gang patchers on their track suits and their sloppy
sweet shirts. Maybe they do sit there in a squeaky
(02:56):
leather jacket, you know, and watching snow piercer news talk
z been Yeah bread times to be a mill worker,
isn't it, Because apparently their power has just got so
expensive that it's not worth holping, among other things.
Speaker 3 (03:18):
So yeah, what happens.
Speaker 2 (03:20):
If the power of it gets cheaper again, than it
is worth doing it.
Speaker 5 (03:23):
Often, news stories just come and go, and tomorrow there'll
be another story that we focus on, no doubt. But
it's these people that will be grappling with this and
the ones that are staying behind. If you are one
of them, let me know if you've got a plan.
I would say the last thing you want to be
doing is ringing talkback radio and sharing what you're thinking about.
But if you're in a good place and you're able
to share what your plans are. Two hundred and thirty
(03:44):
jobs lost from Windstone Rupe who District mayor Western Curtain.
He's always in the news, isn't he. He's been a
real advocate and still is for the area. But yeah,
as people are saying, what's going to happen to that area,
what's going to happen where only The only thing that
keeps New Zealand going is the fact that we have
people who still want to move here or move back
(04:05):
here from overseas the island is returning, or people who
think this is a green paradise and there's you know,
everyone's skipping around paddock singing the sound of music. Yeah,
I do wonder. Actually, I've just got a text here
wondering about what the future will be of that area
in terms of all the infrastructure that's built there, with
(04:26):
the mills and things. What will happen with Rupeiho in
ten years the mill will want to reopen and there'll
be no one left with the skills to re employ
because a generation of those workers have gone. That is
the real problem, isn't it. How long does it take
to train to be There's lots of different expertise at
those mills, including electricians and engineers and all sorts of people.
We lose them, chances are they won't come back, particularly
(04:49):
if the money's great overseas.
Speaker 2 (04:51):
I do wonder if the whole power thing is just
a ningbling worry in the back of my mind that
if these businesses were running things so close to the
line that a bump and power prices was the difference
of them operating and not operating, maybe it wasn't that
(05:12):
viable or thing in the first place. I don't know it.
I say, I'm sorry you people lost their job, but yeah,
it does seem like a genie out of the bottle
situation that it's unlikely A that power prices will ever
(05:33):
come down, and B that you'll need to keep doing
these things. Like I said, I don't really know what
I'm talking about. Ignore me and let's move on us talk.
So yes, this video from the Heir to the Throne
(05:55):
and his wife, it came out yesterday. They just kept
playing it on a loop on Sky News UK. Virtually
it was just the right link or the wrong links
if you're me, that they could play the whole thing
again and again and again. It's almost like that that
was on purpose.
Speaker 6 (06:13):
There's one thing that you understand from watching this video.
It's that she's pretty sick. She says herself. Her path
to healing and full recovery is long and she has
to take each day as it comes, which is to
say she's had a pretty major surgery. She's now been
through seven months of chemotherapy and she is still not
out of the woods. That tells you she's pretty sick.
(06:33):
And it says a lot that they've chosen to release
a video like this. I mean, this thing is more
than three minutes long. It is highly produced, it looks
like a music video, looks like she's releasing some sort
of like country musical folk album and is promoting it
highly produced, beautifully shot. Must have taken a day at
least to film, given the number of location changes in it.
There's woods, there's a beach, there's logs, there are fields,
(06:56):
there's inside a four wheel drive, and there are a
couple of wardrobe changes and stuff like that. A lot
of work has gone into something which could have just
very easily been replaced with a twenty minute interview to
basically just tell you that Kate's got along rode ahead
of her. Now, what that says to me is, yes,
the Palace has learned from not saying enough before, so
they know they have to say something, but they still
(07:16):
want to keep very very tightly controlled what it is
that they say, and predominantly And you know, I don't
mind this because I think that we all need reminding
of this. They want to remind us that, Yep, she
may be a princess, but she is still a mum
to three kids and it has been a really tough
and sad time.
Speaker 2 (07:32):
I've just found the whole thing really odd and a
clear indication that she's completely addicted to social media. She's
learned no lessons at all from the doctored photo drama,
and now we've got adopted video, like why do we
need shots of people walking through wheat fields and in
(07:53):
a completely unnatural way that they would never do.
Speaker 7 (07:57):
Please don't misunderstand me.
Speaker 2 (07:58):
I feel very sorry for her and her and her
illness and all the rest of us. I just don't
know what's going on. It's so weird.
Speaker 7 (08:06):
So you find it weird. I find it weird. I do.
Speaker 2 (08:09):
I don't understand much about anything. It's hard to believe
that IOD could be selling people's information for social media companies.
What's happening here?
Speaker 8 (08:19):
They give Facebook and the big tech guys some of
our information because it's anonymized. It's hashed what they're calling
it hashed, so they can't see who you are when
they hand it over. And it's only for the purposes
of IOD placing ads on these platforms like Facebook, etc.
So don't worry about it. Sorry, I am, and I reckon.
(08:41):
Most keywis will hate this. The reason is pretty simple.
It's trust. Do you trust Facebook?
Speaker 3 (08:47):
No?
Speaker 8 (08:48):
Do you believe they will keep your data secure?
Speaker 7 (08:51):
No?
Speaker 8 (08:52):
Do you believe they won't marry up your private data
that our government has just handed them on a silver
platter with the profiles they have on you already. No,
no one trusts these guys. I don't want some government
department sending my data to some Silicon Valley server so
that some tech guy can better bug me with intrusive
(09:14):
ads about what undies to buy. I actually think there's
more to this story, and there will be, because they
have a life of their own. It won't just be
the IDA that's doing it. There'll be other government departments,
There'll be other private data. There'll be more of us
affected and luxe and should get ahead of this and
just say let's have some kind of little review, because
(09:36):
otherwise you're going to get these headlines ticking over and
over and over, and I think people will be sick
of it. Also, we need to have as citizens, we
need to have faith that when we give our data
to the government that it is kept secure and safe.
And even a perception that it's not is not good enough.
Speaker 2 (09:56):
It sounds right, What do you say for they've got
our datter? Anyway, who are we getting and if anything,
that all this is doing is confirming that the data
that they've already got is right.
Speaker 3 (10:09):
Right News talk ze been.
Speaker 2 (10:13):
I'm saying long one. You know, so it doesn't mean
it's okay to snoop around in your partner's phone.
Speaker 7 (10:21):
There's been some research done by the Kiwi Mobile team.
Basically one in three women admit to snooping and they
use that term snooping on their partner's cell phone. Yeah,
only about fourteen percent. So that's one in ten men
snoop on their girlfriends or their wives' phones.
Speaker 3 (10:42):
Yeah, it's interesting, isn't it. It's the dynamic between men
and women written large here because women seem to not
trust their men and it whereas men just sort of go, oh, yeah,
whatever is that?
Speaker 7 (10:54):
Because men are louses?
Speaker 3 (10:57):
Well some are, but so are some women.
Speaker 7 (11:00):
It's actually quite an interesting research piece from Qwi Mobile
in general, looking at you know, how many what percentage
of parents let the kids use their mobile day?
Speaker 4 (11:09):
Wow?
Speaker 7 (11:10):
What's forty percent of parents will let their kids bleed
off their data plan? At least you're Simon Barnett, Yeah,
I pay for my kids. I wouldn't even know what
a phone. Believe is fifty percent of parents will give
their phones to their kids.
Speaker 3 (11:23):
Is that to use?
Speaker 7 (11:24):
Yep, they mean not use, and look at not as
a second hand thing to think of it. My kids
always snoop on my phone, and they are adult women.
I say, they're all out ot women. They'll often just
pick up my phone. They know the pass code and
they'll just and I say, what are you doing? And
I see Sophie just scrolling through all my texts.
Speaker 3 (11:40):
Oh wow, did you and does what does she say?
What does she answer?
Speaker 7 (11:44):
She goes, oh was he texting you? Why is she
texting you? Oh? It never bothers me. I've got nothing
to hide, but I should, I should take a couple
of naked selfies and then that it chocked them.
Speaker 2 (11:56):
Oh, I wish I'd stopped at a couple of seconds earlier.
Now I'm thinking about Simon's naked selfies. I'm a bit
the same as having that means anything to incriminating on
my phone. But what would bother me is if they
started posting from it from my accounts.
Speaker 7 (12:12):
We don't want that to happen.
Speaker 2 (12:15):
This is a warning for you, sir. I am in
heart that has seen these things.
Speaker 4 (12:20):
It's been thank you, Thank you for listening to.
Speaker 2 (12:23):
This on your phone. Don't be embarrassed. There's nothing to
be embarrassed about. In fact, if ID wants to spread
this podcast throughout the internet. Philly Boots, I say, and
we'll see you back here again with more.
Speaker 1 (12:36):
Than my news Talk has talks it been for more
from news Talk, said b Listen live on air or online,
and keep our shows with you wherever you go with
our podcast on iHeartRadio
You're listening to a podcast from News Talk SEDB. Follow
this and our wide range of podcasts now on iHeartRadio,
Used Talk SEDB Talk, Hello.
Speaker 2 (00:23):
Made for Beetnings and Welcome to the Bean for Wednesday.
First with yesterday's news, I am ben Hart and oy
are looking back at Tuesday and where will the millwork
workers go now that the electricity is too expensive for
them to do their jobs? It's complicated scenario, isn't it.
(00:44):
Princess Kates Odd overproduced video? You have a word on that?
I add selling your details to social media? What's going
on here? And phone snooping? Where you're looking at your
(01:06):
partner's phone? Is that kosher before any of that?
Speaker 3 (01:11):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (01:11):
So cracking down on gangs? Can new laws about gang
members not being old to wear what they want in
their own houses? Can that possibly be police?
Speaker 4 (01:24):
If you're going to keep wearing your patch, then it's
probably pretty likely that you're going to ignore other laws
as well. But I don't know why they didn't just
come clean on that. It's the Operation Raptor approach that
the Australian police used, Niggle niggle, niggle every time one
of the Aussie gang members went out in public what
(01:45):
they were wearing, what they were driving, what they were riding,
was just put through the ringer and it was just
constant niggle. And if that's what it's for, fine, I mean,
I still think it should have been put through at
the right time. You can't even thought bubble and pop
it into your bill. If they forgot, then it should
(02:08):
through the process and do it properly. But to say
we're giving the police powers to stop recidivist gang members
from wearing patches in their own home, to me so silly.
If you say we're giving the police powers to naggle
(02:30):
the living daylights out of recidivus gang members, fine with that?
Speaker 2 (02:34):
Do you reckon it happens that much? Like or when
I get home, I just want to put the track
pants and my sloppy sweat shirt on. Do they have
their gang patchers on their track suits and their sloppy
sweet shirts. Maybe they do sit there in a squeaky
(02:56):
leather jacket, you know, and watching snow piercer news talk
z been Yeah bread times to be a mill worker,
isn't it, Because apparently their power has just got so
expensive that it's not worth holping, among other things.
Speaker 3 (03:18):
So yeah, what happens.
Speaker 2 (03:20):
If the power of it gets cheaper again, than it
is worth doing it.
Speaker 5 (03:23):
Often, news stories just come and go, and tomorrow there'll
be another story that we focus on, no doubt. But
it's these people that will be grappling with this and
the ones that are staying behind. If you are one
of them, let me know if you've got a plan.
I would say the last thing you want to be
doing is ringing talkback radio and sharing what you're thinking about.
But if you're in a good place and you're able
to share what your plans are. Two hundred and thirty
(03:44):
jobs lost from Windstone Rupe who District mayor Western Curtain.
He's always in the news, isn't he. He's been a
real advocate and still is for the area. But yeah,
as people are saying, what's going to happen to that area,
what's going to happen where only The only thing that
keeps New Zealand going is the fact that we have
people who still want to move here or move back
(04:05):
here from overseas the island is returning, or people who
think this is a green paradise and there's you know,
everyone's skipping around paddock singing the sound of music. Yeah,
I do wonder. Actually, I've just got a text here
wondering about what the future will be of that area
in terms of all the infrastructure that's built there, with
(04:26):
the mills and things. What will happen with Rupeiho in
ten years the mill will want to reopen and there'll
be no one left with the skills to re employ
because a generation of those workers have gone. That is
the real problem, isn't it. How long does it take
to train to be There's lots of different expertise at
those mills, including electricians and engineers and all sorts of people.
We lose them, chances are they won't come back, particularly
(04:49):
if the money's great overseas.
Speaker 2 (04:51):
I do wonder if the whole power thing is just
a ningbling worry in the back of my mind that
if these businesses were running things so close to the
line that a bump and power prices was the difference
of them operating and not operating, maybe it wasn't that
(05:12):
viable or thing in the first place. I don't know it.
I say, I'm sorry you people lost their job, but yeah,
it does seem like a genie out of the bottle
situation that it's unlikely A that power prices will ever
(05:33):
come down, and B that you'll need to keep doing
these things. Like I said, I don't really know what
I'm talking about. Ignore me and let's move on us talk.
So yes, this video from the Heir to the Throne
(05:55):
and his wife, it came out yesterday. They just kept
playing it on a loop on Sky News UK. Virtually
it was just the right link or the wrong links
if you're me, that they could play the whole thing
again and again and again. It's almost like that that
was on purpose.
Speaker 6 (06:13):
There's one thing that you understand from watching this video.
It's that she's pretty sick. She says herself. Her path
to healing and full recovery is long and she has
to take each day as it comes, which is to
say she's had a pretty major surgery. She's now been
through seven months of chemotherapy and she is still not
out of the woods. That tells you she's pretty sick.
(06:33):
And it says a lot that they've chosen to release
a video like this. I mean, this thing is more
than three minutes long. It is highly produced, it looks
like a music video, looks like she's releasing some sort
of like country musical folk album and is promoting it
highly produced, beautifully shot. Must have taken a day at
least to film, given the number of location changes in it.
There's woods, there's a beach, there's logs, there are fields,
(06:56):
there's inside a four wheel drive, and there are a
couple of wardrobe changes and stuff like that. A lot
of work has gone into something which could have just
very easily been replaced with a twenty minute interview to
basically just tell you that Kate's got along rode ahead
of her. Now, what that says to me is, yes,
the Palace has learned from not saying enough before, so
they know they have to say something, but they still
(07:16):
want to keep very very tightly controlled what it is
that they say, and predominantly And you know, I don't
mind this because I think that we all need reminding
of this. They want to remind us that, Yep, she
may be a princess, but she is still a mum
to three kids and it has been a really tough
and sad time.
Speaker 2 (07:32):
I've just found the whole thing really odd and a
clear indication that she's completely addicted to social media. She's
learned no lessons at all from the doctored photo drama,
and now we've got adopted video, like why do we
need shots of people walking through wheat fields and in
(07:53):
a completely unnatural way that they would never do.
Speaker 7 (07:57):
Please don't misunderstand me.
Speaker 2 (07:58):
I feel very sorry for her and her and her
illness and all the rest of us. I just don't
know what's going on. It's so weird.
Speaker 7 (08:06):
So you find it weird. I find it weird. I do.
Speaker 2 (08:09):
I don't understand much about anything. It's hard to believe
that IOD could be selling people's information for social media companies.
What's happening here?
Speaker 8 (08:19):
They give Facebook and the big tech guys some of
our information because it's anonymized. It's hashed what they're calling
it hashed, so they can't see who you are when
they hand it over. And it's only for the purposes
of IOD placing ads on these platforms like Facebook, etc.
So don't worry about it. Sorry, I am, and I reckon.
(08:41):
Most keywis will hate this. The reason is pretty simple.
It's trust. Do you trust Facebook?
Speaker 3 (08:47):
No?
Speaker 8 (08:48):
Do you believe they will keep your data secure?
Speaker 7 (08:51):
No?
Speaker 8 (08:52):
Do you believe they won't marry up your private data
that our government has just handed them on a silver
platter with the profiles they have on you already. No,
no one trusts these guys. I don't want some government
department sending my data to some Silicon Valley server so
that some tech guy can better bug me with intrusive
(09:14):
ads about what undies to buy. I actually think there's
more to this story, and there will be, because they
have a life of their own. It won't just be
the IDA that's doing it. There'll be other government departments,
There'll be other private data. There'll be more of us
affected and luxe and should get ahead of this and
just say let's have some kind of little review, because
(09:36):
otherwise you're going to get these headlines ticking over and
over and over, and I think people will be sick
of it. Also, we need to have as citizens, we
need to have faith that when we give our data
to the government that it is kept secure and safe.
And even a perception that it's not is not good enough.
Speaker 2 (09:56):
It sounds right, What do you say for they've got
our datter? Anyway, who are we getting and if anything,
that all this is doing is confirming that the data
that they've already got is right.
Speaker 3 (10:09):
Right News talk ze been.
Speaker 2 (10:13):
I'm saying long one. You know, so it doesn't mean
it's okay to snoop around in your partner's phone.
Speaker 7 (10:21):
There's been some research done by the Kiwi Mobile team.
Basically one in three women admit to snooping and they
use that term snooping on their partner's cell phone. Yeah,
only about fourteen percent. So that's one in ten men
snoop on their girlfriends or their wives' phones.
Speaker 3 (10:42):
Yeah, it's interesting, isn't it. It's the dynamic between men
and women written large here because women seem to not
trust their men and it whereas men just sort of go, oh, yeah,
whatever is that?
Speaker 7 (10:54):
Because men are louses?
Speaker 3 (10:57):
Well some are, but so are some women.
Speaker 7 (11:00):
It's actually quite an interesting research piece from Qwi Mobile
in general, looking at you know, how many what percentage
of parents let the kids use their mobile day?
Speaker 4 (11:09):
Wow?
Speaker 7 (11:10):
What's forty percent of parents will let their kids bleed
off their data plan? At least you're Simon Barnett, Yeah,
I pay for my kids. I wouldn't even know what
a phone. Believe is fifty percent of parents will give
their phones to their kids.
Speaker 3 (11:23):
Is that to use?
Speaker 7 (11:24):
Yep, they mean not use, and look at not as
a second hand thing to think of it. My kids
always snoop on my phone, and they are adult women.
I say, they're all out ot women. They'll often just
pick up my phone. They know the pass code and
they'll just and I say, what are you doing? And
I see Sophie just scrolling through all my texts.
Speaker 3 (11:40):
Oh wow, did you and does what does she say?
What does she answer?
Speaker 7 (11:44):
She goes, oh was he texting you? Why is she
texting you? Oh? It never bothers me. I've got nothing
to hide, but I should, I should take a couple
of naked selfies and then that it chocked them.
Speaker 2 (11:56):
Oh, I wish I'd stopped at a couple of seconds earlier.
Now I'm thinking about Simon's naked selfies. I'm a bit
the same as having that means anything to incriminating on
my phone. But what would bother me is if they
started posting from it from my accounts.
Speaker 7 (12:12):
We don't want that to happen.
Speaker 2 (12:15):
This is a warning for you, sir. I am in
heart that has seen these things.
Speaker 4 (12:20):
It's been thank you, Thank you for listening to.
Speaker 2 (12:23):
This on your phone. Don't be embarrassed. There's nothing to
be embarrassed about. In fact, if ID wants to spread
this podcast throughout the internet. Philly Boots, I say, and
we'll see you back here again with more.
Speaker 1 (12:36):
Than my news Talk has talks it been for more
from news Talk, said b Listen live on air or online,
and keep our shows with you wherever you go with
our podcast on iHeartRadio
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