December 7, 2025 • 13 mins
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Speaker 1 (00:09):
You're listening to a podcast from news Talk said be
follow this and our wide Ranger podcasts now on iHeartRadio.
Speaker 2 (00:20):
Used Talk said, be you Talk.
Speaker 3 (00:24):
Hello, my liple Beanies, and welcome to the Bean the
Weekend edition, first of yesterday's news. I am Glen Hart,
and we are looking back at Sunday and Saturday, because
even when it's hot, it's stilled our weekends work. Jack
takes us to grammar school. Shortly, That's fun, doesn't it?
How did the black Caps possibly lose that match? A? Yes,
(00:45):
the wed Sundays, We'll find one of the corporates and
see what he has to say for himself. Shortly, Alice
Taylor is a foody influencer, apparently at the bottom of
what she's really famous for. And Suzanne Vega famous for
the song Luca. It turns out she is Luca before
(01:07):
any of that. To Party Mari formerly the artist formerly
known as the Maori Party. How are they channeling right now?
Can we get to the bottom of what's happening for
them next year?
Speaker 4 (01:22):
I can't keep up, but.
Speaker 5 (01:25):
Was the only one?
Speaker 2 (01:27):
What does it?
Speaker 4 (01:27):
What does it all mean with this reinstatement?
Speaker 5 (01:29):
For a start, well, what the judges said is that
there's some serious questions around the process that was used
to expel Mariamental and that me you know, he said
a couple of other things. For instance, one of the
reasons for her expulsion were the financials around her internal
(01:52):
parliamentary budget, and the point he made is that that
wasn't the party Maori funds. Those funds were from parliamentary
services and for all intents and purposes, they were resolved properly,
so that means she gets to go back in. Well.
The other reason was on process. The Tykoo Electorate Committee
(02:14):
weren't at the vote, but he didn't make conclusions on those.
They all have to be revisited on February.
Speaker 4 (02:21):
The second Yeah, just I mean, from what I understand
about administrative law and that sort of thing, it's really
just a case of the process wasn't followed. If they
go back dot the eyes, cross the t's, then she's gone.
Speaker 5 (02:33):
In February, well, both sides will get to put their case.
Speaker 3 (02:39):
The slow motion car crash continues. It's almost like it's
a car crash that happens in slow motion and it's continual.
So as soon as they clean up the mess at
the back of the car crash, then those cars drive
around and crash into the front of it again, and
it just keeps going on like that.
Speaker 2 (02:56):
News talk z been right.
Speaker 3 (02:59):
So Jack came started his show on Saturday morning by
correcting people's grammar, including his own.
Speaker 6 (03:07):
The moment the syllables spilled from my mouth, I knew
I'd screwed up and a repeat offender, I said, verse
a detective dog.
Speaker 2 (03:20):
Verse.
Speaker 6 (03:21):
It was the opening few stanzas of last night's one News,
the part of the show where we tease a few
of the evening's top stories. And as the opening credits played,
with my microphone fader pulled down, I called out to
my producer in frustration with myself verse I said, versus versus.
(03:42):
The emails flooded in. I knew they'd be waiting for
me just as soon as the bulletin finished, polite but
gently critical messages, kindly informing me that due to myriad
inadequacies in the New Zealand education system, I had used
a term more appropriately associated with Shakespeare or Keats than
that of the cunning pest control dog starring in the
(04:05):
Evening Bulletin. There is a difference between verse and verses,
but hey, did you notice there how I used myriad.
I don't know about you, but it drives me crazy
when I hear people talk about a myriad of something,
and it shouldn't. It really shouldn't, because apparently a myriad
(04:28):
of is actually perfectly correct. Myriad started its English language
life in noun form, and yet anytime someone opt for
myriad of instead of the adjective usage, the snooty language
snob in me can't help but curl his toes. It's
(04:49):
the same. Unfortunately, when people say less instead of fewer,
there are not less than thirty days until the new year.
There are fewer than thirty days.
Speaker 7 (04:59):
Duh.
Speaker 6 (05:00):
And I hate to admit it, but I'm not fussed
whether you are a stranger, a colleague, or my long
suffering wife. I am that miserable song who can't help
but wait fewer than a few split seconds before pretentiously
correcting your mistake. The other one that really gets my goat,
and yes it gets my goat, it doesn't get up
(05:21):
my goat is when anyone observes that the proof is
in the pudding. The proof is not in the pudding.
The proof of the pudding is in the eating. Makes
sense when you actually think about it, doesn't it? Speaking
of mastication, my dad was recently spun into a state
by the repeated insistence of a prominent sports person that
(05:42):
they were chomping at the bit for an upcoming contest.
Chomping at the bit rather than champing at the bit.
I suppose that really would be a remarkable level of excitement. Look,
I know that language is alive, right, I know that
language morphs and evolves. But for those of us who
care to conserve usage principles and don't mind putting others
(06:04):
right from time to time, there is nothing like erring
while reading the news before seven hundred thousand people for
a rude taste of one's own medicine. How quickly the
corrector becomes the correctid. Myriad grammar and usage errors might
get my goat, but I've learned the hard way. There
(06:27):
are plenty of other grammar and usage tyrants out there
positively champing at the bit to correct every error. Who
knows if my cautionary tale will have any impact. The
proof of the pudding is in the eating. But if
you have learnt anything, maybe you will make fewer errors
rather than less. After listening to this verse verse you know,
(06:51):
as opposed to verses.
Speaker 3 (06:52):
I quite know what the point of all that was,
other than the fact that I have to imagine I
emphathize with Jack around the use of myriad, even though
apparently now you are allowed to say a myriad of
not things are myriad like you was saying, because people
(07:13):
have just been using it so wrong for so long.
It's fine, that's annoying when you're very und correcting people
your whole life and then find out that you're wrong.
Speaker 2 (07:25):
You've talk sid been right.
Speaker 3 (07:27):
So I was listening to the Maltcats versus the West
Indies on Saturday afternoon via the ACC commentary on iHeartRadio,
very entertaining. The commentary was the game not so mach
the wind.
Speaker 7 (07:43):
He spanned for what one hundred and sixty three overs
in their second and exact That is a long time
to be out in the field and you bowled thirty
three of those overs. How's the body today?
Speaker 8 (07:53):
Yeah, bodies a little bit sore. I think Duff had
about ten overs on me as well, so I'm sure
he's woken up a bit worse for with morning as are.
Speaker 7 (08:01):
How challenging was it knowing both Matt Henry and Nathan
Smith would be unable to bowl on the final day.
Speaker 8 (08:08):
Obviously, you never want to see guys go down. We
also had tom Tom Blundell out as well, so Tommy
had to had to be behind the stumps. I think
he was on the field for the last three days
of that Test match. So yeahs a few few wounded
soldiers this morning, but we'll look to recover the next
few days and then go again in Wellington.
Speaker 7 (08:28):
Of course, and usual circumstances you wouldn't have had to
bowl that many overs. So at the start of yesterday,
how did you prepare yourself knowing that it was going
to be a heavier workload for you?
Speaker 8 (08:39):
Yeah, we knew it was going to be a tough slog.
Obviously that second new ball was pretty crucial, and yeah
we didn't didn't really we got two with it, but yeah,
it didn't really get to get the in roads that
we would have liked. But yeah, it's great toil from
Duff and brace Well bowling. I think best bowld fifty
fifty something sets, which was outstanding.
Speaker 3 (09:01):
Well, it would have been more outstanding if you'd taken
more than one work it. How did it go so
terribly terribly wrong? That's the beauty of cricket, I guess.
And if you are, if you do find yourself being
a little bit bored and frustrated watching a game like that,
(09:21):
do tune into the the alternative commentary and no commentary
to the Well. I can't remember exactly what acc stands, Well,
look it up on iHeartRadio. It's pretty funny, right, that
was Taylor. There's a mover and shaker and the influencing world.
She's some kind of foodie. Let's see if we can
get some more.
Speaker 2 (09:40):
Details in that.
Speaker 3 (09:41):
I don't know if I've ever.
Speaker 2 (09:42):
Heard of this.
Speaker 6 (09:43):
So much of social media is kind of aspirationally fake, right, Yeah,
people pretending they live these kind of perfect lives. But
it's almost like you have seen a bit of a slot,
not necessarily in the market, but you're connecting to, you know,
an issue that a lot of people can relate to. Yeah.
Speaker 9 (09:58):
Absolutely. I think I always wanted to post on social media,
and even I was on Master Chef, you know, several
years ago, and I tried a bit to post, but
I just couldn't bring myself to do it because I
would look at all these other content creators and they'd
have perfect kitchens crazy budgets, and I'd just think, oh, no,
I can't do it. Yeah, But then around a year
ago I realized, actually, I would love to see something
(10:21):
like that, and so I posted a video, and you know,
immediately that kind of took off and I could feel
that people wanted to see it too. So I think
I did sort of fit a gap in the market
in a weird way. But it was also just kind
of by necessity. If I was going to post, that
was what I was going to post because of my situation.
Speaker 6 (10:39):
It's authentic. That's the thing that actually has cut through.
People go, oh my gosh, Alice isn't actually pretending to
be anything. She isn't here, and she can because it's
stuff that you'd be interested in. People go, actually, that's
stuff I'm interested in as well.
Speaker 9 (10:50):
Exactly, exactly, And I think there's just a need for
cheap and realistic recipes at the moment, especially, so I
think that people are finding the page really useful. I
hope they are, at least.
Speaker 6 (10:59):
Yeah, true, Yeah, true.
Speaker 3 (11:02):
Great. Great response from the master of grammar and Timtex
beginning of the podcast. There, I'm just teasing Jack sittle down.
I'm only teasing you. News talk right, let's finish up
with Suzanne Vega. We've all heard the song Luca. I'm
(11:26):
a fan. I've got quite a few of the albums
tapped into a various playlists.
Speaker 2 (11:32):
Uh.
Speaker 3 (11:34):
But yeah, a lot of people I know over that
one song. Turns out that she is the star of
the show. If you like Luca.
Speaker 10 (11:43):
You wrote that story from the viewpoint of a of
a boy. In recent years, you have admitted it was
based on you as a child. Why after so long
have you finally admitted that.
Speaker 11 (11:57):
Well, I had a very enterprising young man who wanted
to do a podcast and he approached me. And he
was the interesting thing about him as he was not
a journalist. He was a historian and he was doing
a podcast for the Museum of the City of New York.
And he approached me and he said, I want to
(12:18):
do this interview with you, but I want you to
know that I know that you are Luca. And I
know this because I saw your stepfather's memorial online. So
I thought, oh my gosh, this guy's really done his homework.
And I just made the decision right there that this
would be a good moment to come forward with the
truth I felt over the years that continuing to pretend
(12:43):
that there was this boy. I mean, there was a boy.
His name was Luca. He did live upstairs for me.
He was not abused. So that's the story I always told,
leaving out my part in it, you know. So I
thought it started to feel like a lie. It started
to feel like over the years, times have changed and
(13:06):
people talk more about all kinds of abuse. It's more humanizing,
and I've felt that it was the honest thing to do.
Speaker 3 (13:14):
So yeah, on that cherry note, as we rush Hurtle,
he belong towards Christmas. I'll leave that with you and
we'll be back with a non weekend edition of new Talks.
It'd been tomorrow. Sure up, It's Tony Radio News Talking Talks.
Speaker 2 (13:33):
It been.
Speaker 1 (13:36):
For more from News Talks B listen live on air
or online, and keep our shows with you wherever you
go with our podcasts on iart Radio
You're listening to a podcast from news Talk said be
follow this and our wide Ranger podcasts now on iHeartRadio.
Speaker 2 (00:20):
Used Talk said, be you Talk.
Speaker 3 (00:24):
Hello, my liple Beanies, and welcome to the Bean the
Weekend edition, first of yesterday's news. I am Glen Hart,
and we are looking back at Sunday and Saturday, because
even when it's hot, it's stilled our weekends work. Jack
takes us to grammar school. Shortly, That's fun, doesn't it?
How did the black Caps possibly lose that match? A? Yes,
(00:45):
the wed Sundays, We'll find one of the corporates and
see what he has to say for himself. Shortly, Alice
Taylor is a foody influencer, apparently at the bottom of
what she's really famous for. And Suzanne Vega famous for
the song Luca. It turns out she is Luca before
(01:07):
any of that. To Party Mari formerly the artist formerly
known as the Maori Party. How are they channeling right now?
Can we get to the bottom of what's happening for
them next year?
Speaker 4 (01:22):
I can't keep up, but.
Speaker 5 (01:25):
Was the only one?
Speaker 2 (01:27):
What does it?
Speaker 4 (01:27):
What does it all mean with this reinstatement?
Speaker 5 (01:29):
For a start, well, what the judges said is that
there's some serious questions around the process that was used
to expel Mariamental and that me you know, he said
a couple of other things. For instance, one of the
reasons for her expulsion were the financials around her internal
(01:52):
parliamentary budget, and the point he made is that that
wasn't the party Maori funds. Those funds were from parliamentary
services and for all intents and purposes, they were resolved properly,
so that means she gets to go back in. Well.
The other reason was on process. The Tykoo Electorate Committee
(02:14):
weren't at the vote, but he didn't make conclusions on those.
They all have to be revisited on February.
Speaker 4 (02:21):
The second Yeah, just I mean, from what I understand
about administrative law and that sort of thing, it's really
just a case of the process wasn't followed. If they
go back dot the eyes, cross the t's, then she's gone.
Speaker 5 (02:33):
In February, well, both sides will get to put their case.
Speaker 3 (02:39):
The slow motion car crash continues. It's almost like it's
a car crash that happens in slow motion and it's continual.
So as soon as they clean up the mess at
the back of the car crash, then those cars drive
around and crash into the front of it again, and
it just keeps going on like that.
Speaker 2 (02:56):
News talk z been right.
Speaker 3 (02:59):
So Jack came started his show on Saturday morning by
correcting people's grammar, including his own.
Speaker 6 (03:07):
The moment the syllables spilled from my mouth, I knew
I'd screwed up and a repeat offender, I said, verse
a detective dog.
Speaker 2 (03:20):
Verse.
Speaker 6 (03:21):
It was the opening few stanzas of last night's one News,
the part of the show where we tease a few
of the evening's top stories. And as the opening credits played,
with my microphone fader pulled down, I called out to
my producer in frustration with myself verse I said, versus versus.
(03:42):
The emails flooded in. I knew they'd be waiting for
me just as soon as the bulletin finished, polite but
gently critical messages, kindly informing me that due to myriad
inadequacies in the New Zealand education system, I had used
a term more appropriately associated with Shakespeare or Keats than
that of the cunning pest control dog starring in the
(04:05):
Evening Bulletin. There is a difference between verse and verses,
but hey, did you notice there how I used myriad.
I don't know about you, but it drives me crazy
when I hear people talk about a myriad of something,
and it shouldn't. It really shouldn't, because apparently a myriad
(04:28):
of is actually perfectly correct. Myriad started its English language
life in noun form, and yet anytime someone opt for
myriad of instead of the adjective usage, the snooty language
snob in me can't help but curl his toes. It's
(04:49):
the same. Unfortunately, when people say less instead of fewer,
there are not less than thirty days until the new year.
There are fewer than thirty days.
Speaker 7 (04:59):
Duh.
Speaker 6 (05:00):
And I hate to admit it, but I'm not fussed
whether you are a stranger, a colleague, or my long
suffering wife. I am that miserable song who can't help
but wait fewer than a few split seconds before pretentiously
correcting your mistake. The other one that really gets my goat,
and yes it gets my goat, it doesn't get up
(05:21):
my goat is when anyone observes that the proof is
in the pudding. The proof is not in the pudding.
The proof of the pudding is in the eating. Makes
sense when you actually think about it, doesn't it? Speaking
of mastication, my dad was recently spun into a state
by the repeated insistence of a prominent sports person that
(05:42):
they were chomping at the bit for an upcoming contest.
Chomping at the bit rather than champing at the bit.
I suppose that really would be a remarkable level of excitement. Look,
I know that language is alive, right, I know that
language morphs and evolves. But for those of us who
care to conserve usage principles and don't mind putting others
(06:04):
right from time to time, there is nothing like erring
while reading the news before seven hundred thousand people for
a rude taste of one's own medicine. How quickly the
corrector becomes the correctid. Myriad grammar and usage errors might
get my goat, but I've learned the hard way. There
(06:27):
are plenty of other grammar and usage tyrants out there
positively champing at the bit to correct every error. Who
knows if my cautionary tale will have any impact. The
proof of the pudding is in the eating. But if
you have learnt anything, maybe you will make fewer errors
rather than less. After listening to this verse verse you know,
(06:51):
as opposed to verses.
Speaker 3 (06:52):
I quite know what the point of all that was,
other than the fact that I have to imagine I
emphathize with Jack around the use of myriad, even though
apparently now you are allowed to say a myriad of
not things are myriad like you was saying, because people
(07:13):
have just been using it so wrong for so long.
It's fine, that's annoying when you're very und correcting people
your whole life and then find out that you're wrong.
Speaker 2 (07:25):
You've talk sid been right.
Speaker 3 (07:27):
So I was listening to the Maltcats versus the West
Indies on Saturday afternoon via the ACC commentary on iHeartRadio,
very entertaining. The commentary was the game not so mach
the wind.
Speaker 7 (07:43):
He spanned for what one hundred and sixty three overs
in their second and exact That is a long time
to be out in the field and you bowled thirty
three of those overs. How's the body today?
Speaker 8 (07:53):
Yeah, bodies a little bit sore. I think Duff had
about ten overs on me as well, so I'm sure
he's woken up a bit worse for with morning as are.
Speaker 7 (08:01):
How challenging was it knowing both Matt Henry and Nathan
Smith would be unable to bowl on the final day.
Speaker 8 (08:08):
Obviously, you never want to see guys go down. We
also had tom Tom Blundell out as well, so Tommy
had to had to be behind the stumps. I think
he was on the field for the last three days
of that Test match. So yeahs a few few wounded
soldiers this morning, but we'll look to recover the next
few days and then go again in Wellington.
Speaker 7 (08:28):
Of course, and usual circumstances you wouldn't have had to
bowl that many overs. So at the start of yesterday,
how did you prepare yourself knowing that it was going
to be a heavier workload for you?
Speaker 8 (08:39):
Yeah, we knew it was going to be a tough slog.
Obviously that second new ball was pretty crucial, and yeah
we didn't didn't really we got two with it, but yeah,
it didn't really get to get the in roads that
we would have liked. But yeah, it's great toil from
Duff and brace Well bowling. I think best bowld fifty
fifty something sets, which was outstanding.
Speaker 3 (09:01):
Well, it would have been more outstanding if you'd taken
more than one work it. How did it go so
terribly terribly wrong? That's the beauty of cricket, I guess.
And if you are, if you do find yourself being
a little bit bored and frustrated watching a game like that,
(09:21):
do tune into the the alternative commentary and no commentary
to the Well. I can't remember exactly what acc stands, Well,
look it up on iHeartRadio. It's pretty funny, right, that
was Taylor. There's a mover and shaker and the influencing world.
She's some kind of foodie. Let's see if we can
get some more.
Speaker 2 (09:40):
Details in that.
Speaker 3 (09:41):
I don't know if I've ever.
Speaker 2 (09:42):
Heard of this.
Speaker 6 (09:43):
So much of social media is kind of aspirationally fake, right, Yeah,
people pretending they live these kind of perfect lives. But
it's almost like you have seen a bit of a slot,
not necessarily in the market, but you're connecting to, you know,
an issue that a lot of people can relate to. Yeah.
Speaker 9 (09:58):
Absolutely. I think I always wanted to post on social media,
and even I was on Master Chef, you know, several
years ago, and I tried a bit to post, but
I just couldn't bring myself to do it because I
would look at all these other content creators and they'd
have perfect kitchens crazy budgets, and I'd just think, oh, no,
I can't do it. Yeah, But then around a year
ago I realized, actually, I would love to see something
(10:21):
like that, and so I posted a video, and you know,
immediately that kind of took off and I could feel
that people wanted to see it too. So I think
I did sort of fit a gap in the market
in a weird way. But it was also just kind
of by necessity. If I was going to post, that
was what I was going to post because of my situation.
Speaker 6 (10:39):
It's authentic. That's the thing that actually has cut through.
People go, oh my gosh, Alice isn't actually pretending to
be anything. She isn't here, and she can because it's
stuff that you'd be interested in. People go, actually, that's
stuff I'm interested in as well.
Speaker 9 (10:50):
Exactly, exactly, And I think there's just a need for
cheap and realistic recipes at the moment, especially, so I
think that people are finding the page really useful. I
hope they are, at least.
Speaker 6 (10:59):
Yeah, true, Yeah, true.
Speaker 3 (11:02):
Great. Great response from the master of grammar and Timtex
beginning of the podcast. There, I'm just teasing Jack sittle down.
I'm only teasing you. News talk right, let's finish up
with Suzanne Vega. We've all heard the song Luca. I'm
(11:26):
a fan. I've got quite a few of the albums
tapped into a various playlists.
Speaker 2 (11:32):
Uh.
Speaker 3 (11:34):
But yeah, a lot of people I know over that
one song. Turns out that she is the star of
the show. If you like Luca.
Speaker 10 (11:43):
You wrote that story from the viewpoint of a of
a boy. In recent years, you have admitted it was
based on you as a child. Why after so long
have you finally admitted that.
Speaker 11 (11:57):
Well, I had a very enterprising young man who wanted
to do a podcast and he approached me. And he
was the interesting thing about him as he was not
a journalist. He was a historian and he was doing
a podcast for the Museum of the City of New York.
And he approached me and he said, I want to
(12:18):
do this interview with you, but I want you to
know that I know that you are Luca. And I
know this because I saw your stepfather's memorial online. So
I thought, oh my gosh, this guy's really done his homework.
And I just made the decision right there that this
would be a good moment to come forward with the
truth I felt over the years that continuing to pretend
(12:43):
that there was this boy. I mean, there was a boy.
His name was Luca. He did live upstairs for me.
He was not abused. So that's the story I always told,
leaving out my part in it, you know. So I
thought it started to feel like a lie. It started
to feel like over the years, times have changed and
(13:06):
people talk more about all kinds of abuse. It's more humanizing,
and I've felt that it was the honest thing to do.
Speaker 3 (13:14):
So yeah, on that cherry note, as we rush Hurtle,
he belong towards Christmas. I'll leave that with you and
we'll be back with a non weekend edition of new Talks.
It'd been tomorrow. Sure up, It's Tony Radio News Talking Talks.
Speaker 2 (13:33):
It been.
Speaker 1 (13:36):
For more from News Talks B listen live on air
or online, and keep our shows with you wherever you
go with our podcasts on iart Radio
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