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Speaker 1 (00:09):
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Speaker 2 (00:22):
Wellow, my beautiful beanings, and welcome to the bean for Wednesday,
first of yesterday's news. I am Glen Hart and we
are looking back at Tuesday. Oh no, the America's Cup
isn't coming same. Health and safety isn't important anymore. Have
you ever bought black market cigarettes? And the cookie beer
(00:45):
is put being put out to pasture? Beers go out
to pasture. Well, we go up up a pasta tree,
don't they I don't know what they do. But before
any of that, let's just see if we are we're
getting theories or not? When are they coming? Can we
stick a train in them? All that?
Speaker 3 (01:06):
Now, Winston says, picked a need. It's a big revamp
that's going to cost. But the earthquake pro and Wellington
Port just needs a touch up. It's thought, by the way,
that the new Fairies will have less capacity in an
ideal world. All of this is not ideal, but it is,
as Winston says, pragmatic. Now, I know people involved with
(01:27):
the original Irex deal on the on the government side,
and when this first happened, I talked to them and
they said that Kiwi Raw should not come to their
government expecting an open checkbook. They were supporters of rail
and all that sort of thing, but you just can't
come thinking you can just fleece billions out of the
government just like that. And he was right. The original
(01:47):
irex deal had some good parts to it, and it
is the one that we should have aspired to. But
as the government keeps telling us, now is not the
right time for aspirational long term planning. We just can't
afford it. But if not now, when will we do
anything right first time? So this deal looks like a
saving short term, but the question will always be for
another generation will we end up paying more long term?
(02:10):
The upshot is that we do have fairies coming by
twenty twenty nine, and that's when our current fairies have
end their lives, So the timing is tight. The new
fairies are far and there's likely to think than the
ones we already have. And you know that's about it.
In this story, we're right back to where we were
thirty years ago.
Speaker 2 (02:27):
I was really hoping he was going to come out
and say tunnel no ferries, tunnel car and train tunnel.
I was the only one who was hoping that I
just love a tunnel. Who doesn't love a tunnel?
Speaker 1 (02:45):
News talk has it been right?
Speaker 2 (02:48):
So America's Cup not coming luck? I always say when
they say what a boost to the economy that is
going to be about the America's Cup, I don't can't
see how I've ever personally benefited in my bank account
living the America's Cap here. But there there's many knock
(03:10):
on effects that now won't knock on?
Speaker 4 (03:12):
Did we not vote this lot in to focus on
the basic stuff, not the nice to have, which is
what the other lot we're famous for. If you need
proof sailing around the harbor is a nice to have?
Look no further than the sponsors, your prators, your Louis vitons.
Do you know how much a prior handbag costs? No?
Speaker 5 (03:31):
Neither do I.
Speaker 4 (03:32):
But they look expensive, don't They Not quite a burken
but still enough that you would want a home safe
to store it at night time. Which is not to
say there's anything wrong with wealth or with handbags, but
if the event needs taxpayer cash to prop it up,
and there isn't enough private money floating around. Then, given
the state we're in as a country and all good conscience,
(03:53):
we must politely say no. Surely, the sailing people will
talk about economic cost benefit analyses, they'll talk about HOSPOW,
they'll talk about Auckland Inc. But the guardians of the
taxpayer perse have other priorities. What about the economic benefits
of ten thousand extra elective surgeries that's costing US fifty
million dollars over six months. That's ten thousand hips replaced,
(04:16):
or knees done, or potential cancerous breasts removed, you name it.
That benefits all of us as well. There are benefits
to society. So sorry America's Cup, Sorry Prata, Sorry Louis Verton.
Our government's broke, doling out cash from a mankey kmart
handbag in purse covered in holes and chewing gum, and
(04:39):
we've got bigger fish to fry today maybe next time.
Speaker 2 (04:42):
Why, I've got a bit of homework for you today.
If somebody says to you, isn't it terrible that the
America's Cup isn't coming, Let's quickly ask that person who
is the current holder of the America's Cup and see
if they know. Because you ask me, there was a
(05:02):
general feeling of disinterest with the last America's Cup, which
I also bet that same person probably can't remember where
that was, so they probably can't remember who won it,
and they can't remember where it was. It's a little
(05:23):
I might be wrong about that, but I reckon quite
a few should wouldn't be able to answer those two
questions correctly. You talk sim So it's health and safety week.
Apparently we've got to be extra healthy and extra safe
this week, and I think it's part of the kick
as fast trek and government scrapping the barnacles off and
(05:46):
bringing in the role and thunder. I think they've decided
that you don't have to be quite so safe or
healthy these days. Let's just get moving.
Speaker 6 (05:54):
So I think some of these dumb rules came as
a result of people just desperate to ensure that workers
went to work and came home safely. I think they
were trying everything, throwing everything at it. The International Labor
(06:14):
Organization ILO has data from twenty twenty two and it
allows comparison between countries that use a risk management framework,
which we've done since Pike River since twenty ten. According
to this, almost three times as many people die at
work in New Zealand than in the UK. So more
rules the word soup haven't made us safer. What will
(06:41):
What is it going to take to prevent the deaths
of ten thousand more people over the next fifteen years
and having four hundred and twenty thousand people's lives changed
some irrevocably fewer rules in thinking for yourself? Well, now,
(07:03):
that was a very lasaf fair attitude. That was a
she'll be right attitude that some of the old timers
still have. Surely there's got to be a balance between
the she'll be right and the word soup. This is
a staircase, be careful walking down it. There's got to
be a happy medium that seems workers go to work
(07:23):
and come home safe.
Speaker 7 (07:24):
I do.
Speaker 2 (07:24):
Sometimes there's been occasions here at work where I've done
things like stand on an office chair to replace a
light bulb, you know, And that's a chair that's got
wheels on the bottom and it swivels around. And as
(07:46):
you're doing it, you said to think, oh, this is
probably a bit dumb, isn't it. I'm probably not supposed
to do it because I bet people and you also think,
I bet there been people who like paralyze themselves, maybe
even kill themselves changing a light bulb like this, Then
(08:10):
what that a be an embarrassing way to do that,
wouldn't it. But quite a lot of people don't paralyze
themselves as a result of doing it and just get
the lights with them Again. I think Carrie as usual
is right. It is probably a happy medium there somewhere
(08:32):
crazy old Afternoon of Talk yesterday with Matt and Tyler.
They're talking about the underground tobacco industry in New Zealand.
This is something that you don't hear talked about very often,
but it's something that's often brought up. Would you know,
the liberalizing drug laws debate, and if it was less
(08:52):
underground then maybe you know, the government could tax it
and people would know what they were buying and that
sort of thing. But apparently there are people out there
buying a legal tobacco even though it's not actually illegal.
It's just really super expensive.
Speaker 8 (09:07):
John, have you ever heard of anyone being busted, anyone
you know or you know any of the places that
you've bought these these you know, black market cigarettes off
ever being busted.
Speaker 7 (09:19):
So the places that are are currently selling them in
the area that I stay, man, they've been operating for
like four years, you know, that's all, and it's just
yees at something where the locals kind of don't really
say anything because everyone's benefiting from the.
Speaker 8 (09:39):
You know, the person that shut it down definitely.
Speaker 7 (09:42):
And I think how you follow said that there's a
market out there for people actually growing tobacco. They actually is,
you know, and I think you guys chuckled at someone
rolling tailies. Then there there's people out there, there's a
certain culture that they grow the certain tobacco. Man as
(10:04):
harsh as hell.
Speaker 2 (10:05):
Then that's what's going to ask John, is you know
what is the head like that on?
Speaker 3 (10:08):
Like it would be pretty pretty hard on the lungs.
Speaker 7 (10:11):
Yeah, it's pretty heavy. So there, so one tailie will
be equivalent to like smoking four four or five and
one chop.
Speaker 8 (10:19):
You know you're getting a special filter in that or
is it just just straight up the guts now?
Speaker 7 (10:26):
So it's fully they've got a full tailor rolling machine.
It makes clean teenies. So you can pick up a
twenty roll Tellies for like ten bucks. You get a
thirty gramd for like man for like fifteen bucks. And
it's just the market still and.
Speaker 8 (10:45):
So they've got an extra machine turning them into tailies.
Speaker 2 (10:48):
That's operation.
Speaker 8 (10:49):
And they two tone colors or they you know that
does a look just like a you know, just like
a bought one that.
Speaker 7 (10:55):
Looks exactly like I bought one.
Speaker 2 (10:57):
There you go in these tough times. If you give
Britt for a Sigi head up gone erectly he can
you can see you up.
Speaker 1 (11:09):
News talk, has it been right?
Speaker 2 (11:11):
So disturbing news? Apparently they what are they doing for
the cooky Bear calling it euphinating it? What exactly are
they doing?
Speaker 5 (11:22):
Macus cookie Bear has been retired. Yeah, now some of
you will find that surprising, but he's been around for
seven for fifty eight years, and they've killed him. Basically,
that's what's happened. So yeah, that's it. So they're refreshing
(11:46):
the branding of Cookie Beer biscuits and they're dropping Cookie
Beer after fifty seven years. But what is interesting is
once upon a time, and some of you will recall
this is it the Cookie Beer Club in New z
(12:09):
It had once had one hundred and sixty two thousand
members and they received a card from Cookie Beer on
their birthday. Now, I would like to confess that I
myself was a member of the Cookie Beer Club, and
I'd completely forgotten about that until I saw this article.
(12:31):
Not only that, I also had a cookie beer watch,
which I still have.
Speaker 7 (12:37):
Now.
Speaker 5 (12:37):
I don't know many people out there. I would imagine
anyone would still have a cookie beer watch, but yes
I have one. I've even got a photo of it
somewhere if I can do a Google search of my photos,
my forty thousand photos. But there was I did have
a cookie beer watch. I don't think it was the
(12:57):
world's best watch, and I've done a Google search on
it and none of them are there. But yes, I
had one anyway, so hope. I mean, why would you
choose a beer as a mascot for biscuits one of
the world what actually you're going to say is the
world's worst mascot actually is quite fond of him, dump
do you do? I don't know why bears make that noisy?
(13:18):
Why would they? I'll do a Google search to see
if I can find this. I hope I have just
spent all tomorrow looking for this damn thing, because I
probably will because no one believes I've got one Cookie bear.
How do you spell bear b e A R watch?
(13:39):
No results idiots.
Speaker 2 (13:40):
So yeah, there was another episode of This is how
Marcus Google's Things. Interestingly, he didn't mention Griffins at all
in that whole whatever that was that he just did,
so perhaps as a marketing mascot, it's never really worked
(14:04):
for them. Gonna of the name association can really make
itself felt there, or a cooking beerre go'll be confused.
It's not cookie Monster for these guys who don't really
know what cookie beer is. And if you don't really
know what cooki beer is, do you know what cookie
(14:25):
monster is. One of the coolest bit of puppet Puppet
Tree is going cookie Monster eating the cookies because it
just breaks them up and doesn't actually eat them because
puppa can't really eats. I was thought that was such
a cool point. Did I ever think that he was
actually eating them? Did that illusion work on me? Or
(14:48):
did I just always think it's quite a corps of
puppa trees very cynical child, I was very cynical.
Speaker 7 (14:53):
You might be a surprise to you.
Speaker 2 (14:57):
But not now. I'm a very gullible and accepting adult,
and I'll see you back here. It was absolutely no
cynical remarks Psarciasm tomorrow.
Speaker 1 (15:10):
Use Talking Talking zid Bean for more from US Talk
zed B. Listen live on air or online, and keep
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Used Talk Said Talk said.
Speaker 2 (00:22):
Wellow, my beautiful beanings, and welcome to the bean for Wednesday,
first of yesterday's news. I am Glen Hart and we
are looking back at Tuesday. Oh no, the America's Cup
isn't coming same. Health and safety isn't important anymore. Have
you ever bought black market cigarettes? And the cookie beer
(00:45):
is put being put out to pasture? Beers go out
to pasture. Well, we go up up a pasta tree,
don't they I don't know what they do. But before
any of that, let's just see if we are we're
getting theories or not? When are they coming? Can we
stick a train in them? All that?
Speaker 3 (01:06):
Now, Winston says, picked a need. It's a big revamp
that's going to cost. But the earthquake pro and Wellington
Port just needs a touch up. It's thought, by the way,
that the new Fairies will have less capacity in an
ideal world. All of this is not ideal, but it is,
as Winston says, pragmatic. Now, I know people involved with
(01:27):
the original Irex deal on the on the government side,
and when this first happened, I talked to them and
they said that Kiwi Raw should not come to their
government expecting an open checkbook. They were supporters of rail
and all that sort of thing, but you just can't
come thinking you can just fleece billions out of the
government just like that. And he was right. The original
(01:47):
irex deal had some good parts to it, and it
is the one that we should have aspired to. But
as the government keeps telling us, now is not the
right time for aspirational long term planning. We just can't
afford it. But if not now, when will we do
anything right first time? So this deal looks like a
saving short term, but the question will always be for
another generation will we end up paying more long term?
(02:10):
The upshot is that we do have fairies coming by
twenty twenty nine, and that's when our current fairies have
end their lives, So the timing is tight. The new
fairies are far and there's likely to think than the
ones we already have. And you know that's about it.
In this story, we're right back to where we were
thirty years ago.
Speaker 2 (02:27):
I was really hoping he was going to come out
and say tunnel no ferries, tunnel car and train tunnel.
I was the only one who was hoping that I
just love a tunnel. Who doesn't love a tunnel?
Speaker 1 (02:45):
News talk has it been right?
Speaker 2 (02:48):
So America's Cup not coming luck? I always say when
they say what a boost to the economy that is
going to be about the America's Cup, I don't can't
see how I've ever personally benefited in my bank account
living the America's Cap here. But there there's many knock
(03:10):
on effects that now won't knock on?
Speaker 4 (03:12):
Did we not vote this lot in to focus on
the basic stuff, not the nice to have, which is
what the other lot we're famous for. If you need
proof sailing around the harbor is a nice to have?
Look no further than the sponsors, your prators, your Louis vitons.
Do you know how much a prior handbag costs? No?
Speaker 5 (03:31):
Neither do I.
Speaker 4 (03:32):
But they look expensive, don't They Not quite a burken
but still enough that you would want a home safe
to store it at night time. Which is not to
say there's anything wrong with wealth or with handbags, but
if the event needs taxpayer cash to prop it up,
and there isn't enough private money floating around. Then, given
the state we're in as a country and all good conscience,
(03:53):
we must politely say no. Surely, the sailing people will
talk about economic cost benefit analyses, they'll talk about HOSPOW,
they'll talk about Auckland Inc. But the guardians of the
taxpayer perse have other priorities. What about the economic benefits
of ten thousand extra elective surgeries that's costing US fifty
million dollars over six months. That's ten thousand hips replaced,
(04:16):
or knees done, or potential cancerous breasts removed, you name it.
That benefits all of us as well. There are benefits
to society. So sorry America's Cup, Sorry Prata, Sorry Louis Verton.
Our government's broke, doling out cash from a mankey kmart
handbag in purse covered in holes and chewing gum, and
(04:39):
we've got bigger fish to fry today maybe next time.
Speaker 2 (04:42):
Why, I've got a bit of homework for you today.
If somebody says to you, isn't it terrible that the
America's Cup isn't coming, Let's quickly ask that person who
is the current holder of the America's Cup and see
if they know. Because you ask me, there was a
(05:02):
general feeling of disinterest with the last America's Cup, which
I also bet that same person probably can't remember where
that was, so they probably can't remember who won it,
and they can't remember where it was. It's a little
(05:23):
I might be wrong about that, but I reckon quite
a few should wouldn't be able to answer those two
questions correctly. You talk sim So it's health and safety week.
Apparently we've got to be extra healthy and extra safe
this week, and I think it's part of the kick
as fast trek and government scrapping the barnacles off and
(05:46):
bringing in the role and thunder. I think they've decided
that you don't have to be quite so safe or
healthy these days. Let's just get moving.
Speaker 6 (05:54):
So I think some of these dumb rules came as
a result of people just desperate to ensure that workers
went to work and came home safely. I think they
were trying everything, throwing everything at it. The International Labor
(06:14):
Organization ILO has data from twenty twenty two and it
allows comparison between countries that use a risk management framework,
which we've done since Pike River since twenty ten. According
to this, almost three times as many people die at
work in New Zealand than in the UK. So more
rules the word soup haven't made us safer. What will
(06:41):
What is it going to take to prevent the deaths
of ten thousand more people over the next fifteen years
and having four hundred and twenty thousand people's lives changed
some irrevocably fewer rules in thinking for yourself? Well, now,
(07:03):
that was a very lasaf fair attitude. That was a
she'll be right attitude that some of the old timers
still have. Surely there's got to be a balance between
the she'll be right and the word soup. This is
a staircase, be careful walking down it. There's got to
be a happy medium that seems workers go to work
(07:23):
and come home safe.
Speaker 7 (07:24):
I do.
Speaker 2 (07:24):
Sometimes there's been occasions here at work where I've done
things like stand on an office chair to replace a
light bulb, you know, And that's a chair that's got
wheels on the bottom and it swivels around. And as
(07:46):
you're doing it, you said to think, oh, this is
probably a bit dumb, isn't it. I'm probably not supposed
to do it because I bet people and you also think,
I bet there been people who like paralyze themselves, maybe
even kill themselves changing a light bulb like this, Then
(08:10):
what that a be an embarrassing way to do that,
wouldn't it. But quite a lot of people don't paralyze
themselves as a result of doing it and just get
the lights with them Again. I think Carrie as usual
is right. It is probably a happy medium there somewhere
(08:32):
crazy old Afternoon of Talk yesterday with Matt and Tyler.
They're talking about the underground tobacco industry in New Zealand.
This is something that you don't hear talked about very often,
but it's something that's often brought up. Would you know,
the liberalizing drug laws debate, and if it was less
(08:52):
underground then maybe you know, the government could tax it
and people would know what they were buying and that
sort of thing. But apparently there are people out there
buying a legal tobacco even though it's not actually illegal.
It's just really super expensive.
Speaker 8 (09:07):
John, have you ever heard of anyone being busted, anyone
you know or you know any of the places that
you've bought these these you know, black market cigarettes off
ever being busted.
Speaker 7 (09:19):
So the places that are are currently selling them in
the area that I stay, man, they've been operating for
like four years, you know, that's all, and it's just
yees at something where the locals kind of don't really
say anything because everyone's benefiting from the.
Speaker 8 (09:39):
You know, the person that shut it down definitely.
Speaker 7 (09:42):
And I think how you follow said that there's a
market out there for people actually growing tobacco. They actually is,
you know, and I think you guys chuckled at someone
rolling tailies. Then there there's people out there, there's a
certain culture that they grow the certain tobacco. Man as
(10:04):
harsh as hell.
Speaker 2 (10:05):
Then that's what's going to ask John, is you know
what is the head like that on?
Speaker 3 (10:08):
Like it would be pretty pretty hard on the lungs.
Speaker 7 (10:11):
Yeah, it's pretty heavy. So there, so one tailie will
be equivalent to like smoking four four or five and
one chop.
Speaker 8 (10:19):
You know you're getting a special filter in that or
is it just just straight up the guts now?
Speaker 7 (10:26):
So it's fully they've got a full tailor rolling machine.
It makes clean teenies. So you can pick up a
twenty roll Tellies for like ten bucks. You get a
thirty gramd for like man for like fifteen bucks. And
it's just the market still and.
Speaker 8 (10:45):
So they've got an extra machine turning them into tailies.
Speaker 2 (10:48):
That's operation.
Speaker 8 (10:49):
And they two tone colors or they you know that
does a look just like a you know, just like
a bought one that.
Speaker 7 (10:55):
Looks exactly like I bought one.
Speaker 2 (10:57):
There you go in these tough times. If you give
Britt for a Sigi head up gone erectly he can
you can see you up.
Speaker 1 (11:09):
News talk, has it been right?
Speaker 2 (11:11):
So disturbing news? Apparently they what are they doing for
the cooky Bear calling it euphinating it? What exactly are
they doing?
Speaker 5 (11:22):
Macus cookie Bear has been retired. Yeah, now some of
you will find that surprising, but he's been around for
seven for fifty eight years, and they've killed him. Basically,
that's what's happened. So yeah, that's it. So they're refreshing
(11:46):
the branding of Cookie Beer biscuits and they're dropping Cookie
Beer after fifty seven years. But what is interesting is
once upon a time, and some of you will recall
this is it the Cookie Beer Club in New z
(12:09):
It had once had one hundred and sixty two thousand
members and they received a card from Cookie Beer on
their birthday. Now, I would like to confess that I
myself was a member of the Cookie Beer Club, and
I'd completely forgotten about that until I saw this article.
(12:31):
Not only that, I also had a cookie beer watch,
which I still have.
Speaker 7 (12:37):
Now.
Speaker 5 (12:37):
I don't know many people out there. I would imagine
anyone would still have a cookie beer watch, but yes
I have one. I've even got a photo of it
somewhere if I can do a Google search of my photos,
my forty thousand photos. But there was I did have
a cookie beer watch. I don't think it was the
(12:57):
world's best watch, and I've done a Google search on
it and none of them are there. But yes, I
had one anyway, so hope. I mean, why would you
choose a beer as a mascot for biscuits one of
the world what actually you're going to say is the
world's worst mascot actually is quite fond of him, dump
do you do? I don't know why bears make that noisy?
(13:18):
Why would they? I'll do a Google search to see
if I can find this. I hope I have just
spent all tomorrow looking for this damn thing, because I
probably will because no one believes I've got one Cookie bear.
How do you spell bear b e A R watch?
(13:39):
No results idiots.
Speaker 2 (13:40):
So yeah, there was another episode of This is how
Marcus Google's Things. Interestingly, he didn't mention Griffins at all
in that whole whatever that was that he just did,
so perhaps as a marketing mascot, it's never really worked
(14:04):
for them. Gonna of the name association can really make
itself felt there, or a cooking beerre go'll be confused.
It's not cookie Monster for these guys who don't really
know what cookie beer is. And if you don't really
know what cooki beer is, do you know what cookie
(14:25):
monster is. One of the coolest bit of puppet Puppet
Tree is going cookie Monster eating the cookies because it
just breaks them up and doesn't actually eat them because
puppa can't really eats. I was thought that was such
a cool point. Did I ever think that he was
actually eating them? Did that illusion work on me? Or
(14:48):
did I just always think it's quite a corps of
puppa trees very cynical child, I was very cynical.
Speaker 7 (14:53):
You might be a surprise to you.
Speaker 2 (14:57):
But not now. I'm a very gullible and accepting adult,
and I'll see you back here. It was absolutely no
cynical remarks Psarciasm tomorrow.
Speaker 1 (15:10):
Use Talking Talking zid Bean for more from US Talk
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