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Speaker 1 (00:09):
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Speaker 2 (00:22):
Hello, my beautiful beanies, and welcome to the bean for Friday.
First of yesterday's news. I'm Glen Hart, and we are
looking back at Thursday, and I think most outlets have
missed the the biggest story of the day yesterday. I
did see Fox News picking up on it, but I
haven't seen it anywhere else yet. But yeah, yeah, yeah,
(00:45):
there was this election. Of course, some people were pretty
excited by the result.
Speaker 3 (00:49):
So, Si, how are you this afternoon?
Speaker 4 (00:51):
Goad, how are you? I've just been doing the Trump
Dance at my local supermarket. You're great, Trump Trump Trump.
Speaker 5 (01:03):
So to people recognize the Trump dance when you were
doing it.
Speaker 4 (01:07):
I think so were so embarrassed to get into it.
I did it with my seventy year old girlfriend from Korea.
It was so fun.
Speaker 5 (01:16):
I think the Trump dances. The Trump dance is an
example of how the Dems didn't get what Trump was
doing because they tried to use the Trump dance to
humiliate him and they didn't realize Whay, keep doing it.
But even though it's fiercely uncool. The Trump dance. It
wasn't its way like iconic, and it drew the people
(01:37):
in the everyday people in those kind of weird things
he did.
Speaker 3 (01:40):
People loved it. It was real.
Speaker 4 (01:43):
Look, the Democrats forgot where they came from. I grew
up in Hawaii and my relatives were Democrats forever till
my uncles who just passed away at age ninety something
that I do not recognize this party, you know. And look,
the Americans were good at were generous people, and we
(02:05):
love to dream and it's just like mate's time now
where old men can dream dreams again. And look thee
I ask any woman who goes out on any date,
you know when you're being lied to? Yeah, you know,
you just know authenticity. I mean, okay, Obama was a
great orchard, but he believed what he was saying. Don't
(02:26):
believe what he was saying. Yeah, Harris, whoever gave her
the big donations, and honestly, you can't Trump.
Speaker 6 (02:35):
Had a fact too.
Speaker 4 (02:37):
He did not see one fact because and everyone's all like, really,
what have you done the last three and a half years.
No one was gonna trust her. And then yeah, and
her running mate was worse mate.
Speaker 2 (02:48):
Did she said that Trump hit the facts?
Speaker 7 (02:50):
Is it what she said?
Speaker 2 (02:52):
Or Trump had effects? Or is he getting his fixts
by effects? And then is that why sometimes they're not
what's the word I'm looking for real? Because they came
out of it slurry and blurry from the fact machine.
Speaker 1 (03:12):
I had to say, news talk z bean.
Speaker 2 (03:16):
Why do we care about the American election at all?
How does it affect us? Well, Ryan's got a few theories.
Speaker 3 (03:23):
America is our second largest export market, overtook the Aussies
last year. Tariffs on our meat and dairy could be
a brutal blow. Plus, our number one trading partner in
China is about to be whacked even harder by Washington.
Trump's Washington a trade war could wipe they reckon almost
one percent of global growth in the next year, and
(03:44):
global growth is tipped to be just three point five percent.
That is massive and it will send shot waves around
the world and we will feel it here. Add to
that Trump potentially pulling support for Ukraine's war and as
bullish comments on the Middle East, and you've got yourself
a highly unpredictable and to use a couple of overused terms,
unprecedented and consequential set of variables. For all the handwringing
(04:05):
pre election that Trump was an existential threat to democracy,
that very system has elected him the forty seventh president
of the United States, serving his last term with more
power than he's ever had. This is Trump unleashed. Buckle up,
brace yourselves. Everything we knew yesterday about the global economy
(04:27):
and global conflicts is about to change or not.
Speaker 2 (04:30):
I've had to reassure people at my house that you know,
we made it through the first Trump presidency relatively unscathed.
Speaker 1 (04:41):
Talk.
Speaker 2 (04:44):
There's no reason to believe that he's going to follow
through on all his random stuff this time either, although
it would be cool if he stopped all those wars
that he said he was going to stop on day one,
So the day day one, or do we have to
wait for January?
Speaker 8 (05:00):
A massive majority of Americans across the whole country, across
both genders, across all ethnicities, voted for him. Why because
it doesn't matter, certainly, not as much as his policies.
The policies matter more what he says he will do
for people, tax cuts, paying down debt, getting rid of
illegal immigrants. That matters more to voters than him being
a bad man. Now, this is a really important lesson
(05:23):
because this bad man stuff is happening all around the world,
right all around the Western world. We are constantly told
by the left of politics in particular, not to vote
for people or policy or parties because they're bad. They're
bad people. How many times have we been told, even
here in New Zealand in the last election, that we
can't vote for this or that politician or this or
that party because they are a bunch of racists, bad people,
(05:44):
or they're bad because they had a Donald Trump hat
on display very bad, or more recently, Andrew Bailey bad
man has to be sacked because he made a mean
joke about a worker. What a bad man, you know. Like,
here's the lesson from last night. That stuff doesn't matter
as much as the politicians on the left think. Carmla Harris,
she strikes me as genuinely a decent person, like I
(06:05):
think I would really like her. She looks like a good,
nice woman with a much better moral code than Donald Trump.
And she lost so badly she got down trout last
night because voters didn't think that it was so important
that she was a good person. What they thought was
her policy sucked and they didn't want them. So here's
the thing, right, if Trump hating politicians and punters and
commentators learned the lesson from last night, they will tone
(06:27):
down all the stuff I keep telling us about how
bad he is because he's like Hitler and he's a
tyrant and he's a misogynist and he's a racist. No
one cares. Voters clearly don't care. And here's the lesson
for the left of politics in particular, play the ball,
not the man.
Speaker 2 (06:43):
Yeah, it is weird that the Democrats don't get that,
and they've never got there and they never will get that.
I mean, they seem to get that back in Bill
Clinton's day, where you know, the whole monocle laid, this
key thing happened, and then he still got voted back
and thussic in term like as Heather just said, they
(07:04):
didn't really they the electorate understood that that didn't really
have that much bearing on how he was running the country.
I'm assuming Carrie says it the same way.
Speaker 6 (07:18):
He've text us straight out of the blocks, asks what
his convictions and pending sentencing, how that's going to affect
his presidency? Well, the Supreme Court has ruled that the
president has total immunity from prosecution for official acts in office,
and now he is president, with Congress behind him, he
(07:41):
could instruct his Justice Department to drop any charges against
him relating to the January six riots, so he won't
have to worry about a jail term. And it's perfectly conceivable,
and that he does look after his friends and those
who are loyal to him, as as most prime ministers
(08:01):
and presidents do. He could pardon hundreds of people who
are sentenced to prison for their part and the Capital riots.
So Donald Trump's message was, I see you, I see
that you're doing it tough, and I will help you.
I will restore your vision of your own future. I
(08:25):
will restore your vision for how you saw your life
playing out. I will make America great again. That's he
was pretty much on song with that. Kamala Harris and
the Democrats were kind of all over the place. You know,
I vote for Donald Trump means you won't be able
to have an abortion. Well, lots of people for that.
(08:48):
That didn't resonate for them. Gender affirming healthcare didn't matter
to somebody who was worried about their retirement, you know,
committing to supporting allies and taking an internationalist stance didn't
resonate with Middle America, and so she at least there's
(09:11):
a clear there's a very very clear result in this election.
There's no equivocation. There's no we were robbed, there is
no it was rigged. The American people said we want
Donald Trump back again, and they've got exactly what they want.
Speaker 4 (09:25):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (09:26):
So yeah, I think that ramps it up with democracy
will be time to get something else to go ideas
anyone news talk, has it been all right? As I
said at the beginning of the podcast, Yeah, a lot
of people were obsessed with that election that was happening
in another country on the other side of the world,
(09:46):
when really they should have been looking at this major story.
Speaker 7 (09:49):
Mar Because I thought of you today and laughed out
loud when I heard of the news that Reagun had
announced her retirement. I still feel really sick of the
stomach about Reagun. I think she really stiffed the country.
I think there were much better breakdowns without passports than
she just kind of swann her way through and a
breeze of entitlement. Now I might be wrong about that,
(10:12):
but I still don't quite know what to do about that.
Speaker 3 (10:16):
Got to let it go.
Speaker 7 (10:17):
It's not my country, it's not my sport. It's nothing
to do with me. Stay in your lane, Lush, don't
pick a fight with Raygun, but something about it. And
she's kind of played the victim when she was the
perpetrator of the crime against breakdant. She killed the Olympics
and she killed breakdancing. No one's talking about any of
(10:41):
the great things at the Olympics. I don't know what
they were or anyone what was the great moment of
the Olympics, Oh, Simone Biles. I think no one's talking
about that. All they're talking about that stupid breakdancer Ray Gun. Yeah,
(11:01):
I'm more than angry. Of course she's retiring because she's
been found out. Then she sworn around Europe about three months.
Must have got a fortune from the a pear. I
don't know what she got from. Well, the good news
is she's not going to go on Strictly Come Dancing.
(11:21):
I think she's seen the sensors. I think you people
are going to shame her or something.
Speaker 2 (11:28):
Anyhow, my question is ken because it wasn't it generally
accepted that what she was doing was not really breakdancing,
and that's why she didn't give any points. So how
do you retire from doing something that you weren't doing?
I suppose people will be asking the same question when
I retire. I can't wait to retire. I'm going to
(11:51):
retire for the weekend and we'll be back with another
News Talk Said Been on Monday.
Speaker 1 (11:54):
See then News Talkers, Talk Said Been. For more from
news Talk Said Be listen live on air or online,
and keep our shows with you wherever you go with
our podcast on iHeartRadio.
You're listening to a podcast from news Talk said be
follow this and our wide range of podcasts now on
iHeartRadio Used Talk sid Talk.
Speaker 2 (00:22):
Hello, my beautiful beanies, and welcome to the bean for Friday.
First of yesterday's news. I'm Glen Hart, and we are
looking back at Thursday, and I think most outlets have
missed the the biggest story of the day yesterday. I
did see Fox News picking up on it, but I
haven't seen it anywhere else yet. But yeah, yeah, yeah,
(00:45):
there was this election. Of course, some people were pretty
excited by the result.
Speaker 3 (00:49):
So, Si, how are you this afternoon?
Speaker 4 (00:51):
Goad, how are you? I've just been doing the Trump
Dance at my local supermarket. You're great, Trump Trump Trump.
Speaker 5 (01:03):
So to people recognize the Trump dance when you were
doing it.
Speaker 4 (01:07):
I think so were so embarrassed to get into it.
I did it with my seventy year old girlfriend from Korea.
It was so fun.
Speaker 5 (01:16):
I think the Trump dances. The Trump dance is an
example of how the Dems didn't get what Trump was
doing because they tried to use the Trump dance to
humiliate him and they didn't realize Whay, keep doing it.
But even though it's fiercely uncool. The Trump dance. It
wasn't its way like iconic, and it drew the people
(01:37):
in the everyday people in those kind of weird things
he did.
Speaker 3 (01:40):
People loved it. It was real.
Speaker 4 (01:43):
Look, the Democrats forgot where they came from. I grew
up in Hawaii and my relatives were Democrats forever till
my uncles who just passed away at age ninety something
that I do not recognize this party, you know. And look,
the Americans were good at were generous people, and we
(02:05):
love to dream and it's just like mate's time now
where old men can dream dreams again. And look thee
I ask any woman who goes out on any date,
you know when you're being lied to? Yeah, you know,
you just know authenticity. I mean, okay, Obama was a
great orchard, but he believed what he was saying. Don't
(02:26):
believe what he was saying. Yeah, Harris, whoever gave her
the big donations, and honestly, you can't Trump.
Speaker 6 (02:35):
Had a fact too.
Speaker 4 (02:37):
He did not see one fact because and everyone's all like, really,
what have you done the last three and a half years.
No one was gonna trust her. And then yeah, and
her running mate was worse mate.
Speaker 2 (02:48):
Did she said that Trump hit the facts?
Speaker 7 (02:50):
Is it what she said?
Speaker 2 (02:52):
Or Trump had effects? Or is he getting his fixts
by effects? And then is that why sometimes they're not
what's the word I'm looking for real? Because they came
out of it slurry and blurry from the fact machine.
Speaker 1 (03:12):
I had to say, news talk z bean.
Speaker 2 (03:16):
Why do we care about the American election at all?
How does it affect us? Well, Ryan's got a few theories.
Speaker 3 (03:23):
America is our second largest export market, overtook the Aussies
last year. Tariffs on our meat and dairy could be
a brutal blow. Plus, our number one trading partner in
China is about to be whacked even harder by Washington.
Trump's Washington a trade war could wipe they reckon almost
one percent of global growth in the next year, and
(03:44):
global growth is tipped to be just three point five percent.
That is massive and it will send shot waves around
the world and we will feel it here. Add to
that Trump potentially pulling support for Ukraine's war and as
bullish comments on the Middle East, and you've got yourself
a highly unpredictable and to use a couple of overused terms,
unprecedented and consequential set of variables. For all the handwringing
(04:05):
pre election that Trump was an existential threat to democracy,
that very system has elected him the forty seventh president
of the United States, serving his last term with more
power than he's ever had. This is Trump unleashed. Buckle up,
brace yourselves. Everything we knew yesterday about the global economy
(04:27):
and global conflicts is about to change or not.
Speaker 2 (04:30):
I've had to reassure people at my house that you know,
we made it through the first Trump presidency relatively unscathed.
Speaker 1 (04:41):
Talk.
Speaker 2 (04:44):
There's no reason to believe that he's going to follow
through on all his random stuff this time either, although
it would be cool if he stopped all those wars
that he said he was going to stop on day one,
So the day day one, or do we have to
wait for January?
Speaker 8 (05:00):
A massive majority of Americans across the whole country, across
both genders, across all ethnicities, voted for him. Why because
it doesn't matter, certainly, not as much as his policies.
The policies matter more what he says he will do
for people, tax cuts, paying down debt, getting rid of
illegal immigrants. That matters more to voters than him being
a bad man. Now, this is a really important lesson
(05:23):
because this bad man stuff is happening all around the world,
right all around the Western world. We are constantly told
by the left of politics in particular, not to vote
for people or policy or parties because they're bad. They're
bad people. How many times have we been told, even
here in New Zealand in the last election, that we
can't vote for this or that politician or this or
that party because they are a bunch of racists, bad people,
(05:44):
or they're bad because they had a Donald Trump hat
on display very bad, or more recently, Andrew Bailey bad
man has to be sacked because he made a mean
joke about a worker. What a bad man, you know. Like,
here's the lesson from last night. That stuff doesn't matter
as much as the politicians on the left think. Carmla Harris,
she strikes me as genuinely a decent person, like I
(06:05):
think I would really like her. She looks like a good,
nice woman with a much better moral code than Donald Trump.
And she lost so badly she got down trout last
night because voters didn't think that it was so important
that she was a good person. What they thought was
her policy sucked and they didn't want them. So here's
the thing, right, if Trump hating politicians and punters and
commentators learned the lesson from last night, they will tone
(06:27):
down all the stuff I keep telling us about how
bad he is because he's like Hitler and he's a
tyrant and he's a misogynist and he's a racist. No
one cares. Voters clearly don't care. And here's the lesson
for the left of politics in particular, play the ball,
not the man.
Speaker 2 (06:43):
Yeah, it is weird that the Democrats don't get that,
and they've never got there and they never will get that.
I mean, they seem to get that back in Bill
Clinton's day, where you know, the whole monocle laid, this
key thing happened, and then he still got voted back
and thussic in term like as Heather just said, they
(07:04):
didn't really they the electorate understood that that didn't really
have that much bearing on how he was running the country.
I'm assuming Carrie says it the same way.
Speaker 6 (07:18):
He've text us straight out of the blocks, asks what
his convictions and pending sentencing, how that's going to affect
his presidency? Well, the Supreme Court has ruled that the
president has total immunity from prosecution for official acts in office,
and now he is president, with Congress behind him, he
(07:41):
could instruct his Justice Department to drop any charges against
him relating to the January six riots, so he won't
have to worry about a jail term. And it's perfectly conceivable,
and that he does look after his friends and those
who are loyal to him, as as most prime ministers
(08:01):
and presidents do. He could pardon hundreds of people who
are sentenced to prison for their part and the Capital riots.
So Donald Trump's message was, I see you, I see
that you're doing it tough, and I will help you.
I will restore your vision of your own future. I
(08:25):
will restore your vision for how you saw your life
playing out. I will make America great again. That's he
was pretty much on song with that. Kamala Harris and
the Democrats were kind of all over the place. You know,
I vote for Donald Trump means you won't be able
to have an abortion. Well, lots of people for that.
(08:48):
That didn't resonate for them. Gender affirming healthcare didn't matter
to somebody who was worried about their retirement, you know,
committing to supporting allies and taking an internationalist stance didn't
resonate with Middle America, and so she at least there's
(09:11):
a clear there's a very very clear result in this election.
There's no equivocation. There's no we were robbed, there is
no it was rigged. The American people said we want
Donald Trump back again, and they've got exactly what they want.
Speaker 4 (09:25):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (09:26):
So yeah, I think that ramps it up with democracy
will be time to get something else to go ideas
anyone news talk, has it been all right? As I
said at the beginning of the podcast, Yeah, a lot
of people were obsessed with that election that was happening
in another country on the other side of the world,
(09:46):
when really they should have been looking at this major story.
Speaker 7 (09:49):
Mar Because I thought of you today and laughed out
loud when I heard of the news that Reagun had
announced her retirement. I still feel really sick of the
stomach about Reagun. I think she really stiffed the country.
I think there were much better breakdowns without passports than
she just kind of swann her way through and a
breeze of entitlement. Now I might be wrong about that,
(10:12):
but I still don't quite know what to do about that.
Speaker 3 (10:16):
Got to let it go.
Speaker 7 (10:17):
It's not my country, it's not my sport. It's nothing
to do with me. Stay in your lane, Lush, don't
pick a fight with Raygun, but something about it. And
she's kind of played the victim when she was the
perpetrator of the crime against breakdant. She killed the Olympics
and she killed breakdancing. No one's talking about any of
(10:41):
the great things at the Olympics. I don't know what
they were or anyone what was the great moment of
the Olympics, Oh, Simone Biles. I think no one's talking
about that. All they're talking about that stupid breakdancer Ray Gun. Yeah,
(11:01):
I'm more than angry. Of course she's retiring because she's
been found out. Then she sworn around Europe about three months.
Must have got a fortune from the a pear. I
don't know what she got from. Well, the good news
is she's not going to go on Strictly Come Dancing.
(11:21):
I think she's seen the sensors. I think you people
are going to shame her or something.
Speaker 2 (11:28):
Anyhow, my question is ken because it wasn't it generally
accepted that what she was doing was not really breakdancing,
and that's why she didn't give any points. So how
do you retire from doing something that you weren't doing?
I suppose people will be asking the same question when
I retire. I can't wait to retire. I'm going to
(11:51):
retire for the weekend and we'll be back with another
News Talk Said Been on Monday.
Speaker 1 (11:54):
See then News Talkers, Talk Said Been. For more from
news Talk Said Be listen live on air or online,
and keep our shows with you wherever you go with
our podcast on iHeartRadio.
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