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Speaker 2 (00:24):
Hello, my beautiful beanies, and welcome to the bean for
Friday versus yesterday's news. I am Glen Hart and we
are looking back at Thursday the Greens budget. So I've
got a job for the government and the government haven't
done there is yet. Greens have already come up with
one mission impossible excitement reaches fever pitch and why does
(00:51):
anybody need a helicopterment before any of that?
Speaker 3 (00:55):
The standards in Parliament lately have been low.
Speaker 4 (01:01):
I had a public Facebook page for years, I think
in the seven or eight years I had it before
the before COVID. I blocked two people. Once COVID started,
I just got rid of it because it's why would
you be a sitting duck when you know, I first
heard about the death threats against Jacinda Adour and I thought, well,
(01:24):
who hasn't had them? You know, that is not normal,
That's not a normal response. Yeah, the days of socratic
discourse are long gone. So does that mean we have
to give up My colleague gust that we have no
expectations of our MPs. No, But I think before we
ask anything of our MPs, we look at ourselves. I
(01:46):
was thinking about that this morning. Can I call out
the Principal's Federation representative and say, before you start looking
at the government, how about you call out the poor
parents who send their kids to school unable to hold
a pen, not toilet trained. Whose fault is that? That is?
The parents? Can I say that? Absolutely?
Speaker 3 (02:07):
I can?
Speaker 4 (02:08):
Did I mimic her voice while I'm saying that, No,
I shouldn't talkbacks are robust forum. It's a bit like parliament.
People get hit up. We're allowed to have opinions, we
should have differing opinions. But before I'm going to ask
(02:28):
anything of rmps, before I ask anything of my fellow journalists,
I'll have a look in the mirror and check myself out.
Speaker 3 (02:37):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (02:37):
I mean they are the House of Representatives, right, so
they are supposed to be reflecting.
Speaker 3 (02:46):
Society at large, more or less.
Speaker 2 (02:51):
So if you don't like what's going on there, as
carry says, maybe look at the.
Speaker 3 (02:55):
Mirror news talk has it been anyway? Does that mean
that Heather needs to suspend yourself?
Speaker 5 (03:02):
Whatever the punishment is going to end up being it
has to be harsh enough to stop the Marti Party
doing this again, or at least try to stop them
doing this again, because this is a strategy from this
from them. We need to see this stuff for what
it is.
Speaker 6 (03:15):
Right.
Speaker 5 (03:15):
This isn't like Julie Anjenta losing her rag in Parliament
in the heat of the moment, apologizing and then ending
up with just a censure and perhaps never doing it again.
The Maori Party break the rules deliberately. This is their strategy,
so you can assume that they will keep on doing it.
And the reason they keep on doing it is because
it gets some attention. Attention for wearing sneakers in the house,
Attention for wearing a cowboy hat in the house, attention
(03:37):
for doing a hukker in the house, attention for not
turning up to the Privileges Committee, attention for leaking the
recommendations of the Privileges Committee. And the list just goes on.
This isn't about they say, this is about teacung. It's
not about tea hunger. Sneakers are not tea hunger. This
is about breaking rules for attention. It's a pr strategy. Now,
three days without pay is not going to deter them.
To be honest, I don't even know that twenty one
(03:58):
days without pay will deter them, but it surely has
a better chance of doing it. And for the record,
twenty one days suspension is not that wild in the UK,
where our parliament derives from. Just in the last two years,
three MP's in the UK have copped suspensions of thirty
days or more. In twenty nineteen, one guy was suspended
for six months.
Speaker 4 (04:18):
Now.
Speaker 5 (04:18):
I don't know that we will ever get order back
into Parliament the way things have gone in the last
few months, but if we don't try, we definitely won't.
And so twenty one days in that context doesn't seem
overly harsh.
Speaker 2 (04:28):
Yeah, and it's not just sitting days either, that's the
weird part about it. I've never understood. It's the same
with sports suspensions. I've never understood when they are just
a period of time and not anything to do with
the time that you would actually be playing or in
this case, actually be turning up to Parliament. I mean,
(04:52):
I guess it's twenty one days where they're not allowed
to do mping.
Speaker 3 (04:57):
I suppose, so if they're.
Speaker 2 (05:00):
Out in the community and somebody comes to them, you know,
wanting some kind of problem solved.
Speaker 3 (05:06):
I guess they have to say.
Speaker 2 (05:07):
Sorry, I can't represent you right at the moment, constituent.
Speaker 3 (05:11):
I'm suspended. You's talk side now.
Speaker 2 (05:14):
Another interesting political party is the Greens.
Speaker 3 (05:17):
Of course.
Speaker 2 (05:19):
They've put out their budget ahead of the actual budget.
Speaker 3 (05:24):
Who cares, it's not anything.
Speaker 7 (05:26):
The election of John Key showed us that families are
ambitious in New Zealand. They believe in themselves to do better.
They're quite motivated and they are ready for this recession
to be over so that basically we can all just
get on with it. I've never doubted that spirit in
New Zealand. That spirit hasn't left for Australia. It's just
been hiding under a rock for six years. And yes,
(05:47):
there are social problems here in New Zealand too, But
what we learned from the fading days of Hipkin's reign
is that voters don't trust that if they give up
their hard earned money and assets, that the state has
the ability all the wherewithal to change any of this,
to fix any of it. They like the tea versions
(06:09):
of a Michael Joseph Savage. Many of the houses he
built still stand building never started on most of Chippy's.
And that brings us to the final Seaward communists, because
I don't know what else do you call them. The
Greens are planning a road show after this pre budget
announcement that they've done. My only question for Chloe Madama
(06:30):
and the rest of them, will you be traveling to
these towns and cities by bicycle or what?
Speaker 3 (06:37):
Will you be.
Speaker 7 (06:38):
Flying on an aeroplane?
Speaker 3 (06:40):
Don't give them ideas. Ryan.
Speaker 2 (06:43):
If there's one thing more annoying than a heck boy, it's.
Speaker 3 (06:48):
A gaggle of cyclists taking up the whole road. We
don't want that. Nobody wants that.
Speaker 2 (06:57):
All right, exciting weekend the Summission Impossible Dead Reckoning Path
two even deader and more reckoning or whatever it is
is coming out.
Speaker 3 (07:09):
It's Tyler excited.
Speaker 6 (07:11):
So Tom Cruise he has made a surprise appearance at Can'ts.
Speaker 8 (07:14):
Yeah, so he turned up hours ahead of the premiere
of Mission Impossible, the Final Reckoning, which has been long awaited,
and it was during a masterclass with the director Christopher mcquarie.
He's directed the last four Mission Impossible films, and yeah,
it was quite a surprise for everyone looking on. They
took some questions together, and obviously the big question is
is this actually the Final Mission Impossible movie?
Speaker 1 (07:34):
Ever?
Speaker 8 (07:34):
It's called the Final Reckoning but they wouldn't confirm it
one way or another, which is interesting, saying they just
want people to go and see it. So yeah, but
the early reviews are in it and largely positive. It's
it is nearly three hours long.
Speaker 6 (07:45):
So a good watch, close Mission impossible? What number is that?
Speaker 3 (07:48):
Is that number?
Speaker 6 (07:49):
I'm just trying to testing. Yeah, we must be up
to about seven. He's got a few more uppers sleep
And obviously those early reviews are saying quite positive things.
But when does it land in our cinemas so we.
Speaker 8 (08:03):
Can go and say it on the seventeenth from the Saturday.
So book tickets in very good.
Speaker 6 (08:09):
How do you feel about Tom Cruise? He's controversial, but
he makes good movies, makes very good movies.
Speaker 8 (08:15):
He's like the previous generation. I think, Yeah, he's.
Speaker 6 (08:18):
Getting up there now. Well, you know, we talked about
this during the air break. Sixtinto is not that old.
Speaker 3 (08:23):
But yeah, exactly.
Speaker 2 (08:25):
He loves that sort of stuff, be heavely and with
a sort of a boomery drive by there.
Speaker 3 (08:33):
He's aimed at people like me. I don't know that
I'm any more comfortable with Tom Cruise's.
Speaker 2 (08:42):
Non movie making behavior away from that world anyway.
Speaker 1 (08:50):
News talk has it been.
Speaker 3 (08:52):
I wonder if he has a hellipter? Is he a pilot?
Am I getting mixed up.
Speaker 2 (08:58):
With John Travolda, who definitely is a pilot, and also
of scientologists of talk. I've got a little bit off track,
and let's talk helicopters.
Speaker 3 (09:15):
That's what I want. That's what I was wanting to
do with Marcus.
Speaker 9 (09:17):
Now, if you don't know wes Mair, I'm not quite
sure where it is. It's like in a west never
used to be a suburb, but now it's a suburb
that people seem to go to. It's a bit mudflatty,
I think when the tides out, but it could be
all right the high tide. But west Mare it's the
suburb of the moment, it seems. And these people want
a helicopter pad but cheapest. I spent some time thinking
about this today, not a lot of time. And by
(09:40):
the way, there seems to be a pr offensive with
people doing well who knows what they're doing, but you know,
it sort of seems to be a charm offensive and
by the way, with the whole council hearing on whether
they should have a helicopter pad a helipad or not.
They do pay for this process. They foot the bill
for the consenting process. But the question I have, and
(10:05):
I don't even know what the answer is, who is
so busy they need a helicopter in the front lawn.
I mean, I can imagine if you were the president
or the Prime minister, or if you were some extraordinary
(10:27):
surgeon that could name their price and value their time
at home and wanted to just fly into organ transplants
at a second's notice.
Speaker 3 (10:36):
But who else I don't get it. Yeah, No, it's
a flex really, it really is.
Speaker 2 (10:46):
Surely it's much more trouble than fast to helicopter most places.
Speaker 3 (10:50):
In New Zealand and there's just a.
Speaker 2 (10:52):
Uber or whatever you know, ea scooter, that's a it's
a flex, I guess. And I've never had, like I've
got this amogent podcasting to get too across town thus
helicopter that you know.
Speaker 3 (11:12):
I think Marcus is on to something here.
Speaker 2 (11:17):
Actually, it makes you wonder why the the is it
the army or the navy or the airport it was
getting those helicopters the other day for billions of dollars
for five five help this.
Speaker 3 (11:28):
Poor helicopters in my very expensive.
Speaker 2 (11:34):
And there's mostly for search and rescue. But again I
can't quite understand why that's.
Speaker 3 (11:39):
The military's responsibility.
Speaker 2 (11:43):
So many questions. Sorry to end the week so uncertainly.
Maybe we'll have some firm answers of the weekend edition
of news Talks they've been on Monday.
Speaker 3 (11:53):
Probably not, but maybe US Talk Talk has it been.
Speaker 1 (11:59):
For more from news Talk said, be listen live on
air or online, and keep our shows with you wherever
you go with our podcast on iHeartRadio.
You're listening to a podcast from News Talk Said B
Follow this and our wide range of podcasts now on
iHeartRadio Used Talk Said Talk.
Speaker 2 (00:24):
Hello, my beautiful beanies, and welcome to the bean for
Friday versus yesterday's news. I am Glen Hart and we
are looking back at Thursday the Greens budget. So I've
got a job for the government and the government haven't
done there is yet. Greens have already come up with
one mission impossible excitement reaches fever pitch and why does
(00:51):
anybody need a helicopterment before any of that?
Speaker 3 (00:55):
The standards in Parliament lately have been low.
Speaker 4 (01:01):
I had a public Facebook page for years, I think
in the seven or eight years I had it before
the before COVID. I blocked two people. Once COVID started,
I just got rid of it because it's why would
you be a sitting duck when you know, I first
heard about the death threats against Jacinda Adour and I thought, well,
(01:24):
who hasn't had them? You know, that is not normal,
That's not a normal response. Yeah, the days of socratic
discourse are long gone. So does that mean we have
to give up My colleague gust that we have no
expectations of our MPs. No, But I think before we
ask anything of our MPs, we look at ourselves. I
(01:46):
was thinking about that this morning. Can I call out
the Principal's Federation representative and say, before you start looking
at the government, how about you call out the poor
parents who send their kids to school unable to hold
a pen, not toilet trained. Whose fault is that? That is?
The parents? Can I say that? Absolutely?
Speaker 3 (02:07):
I can?
Speaker 4 (02:08):
Did I mimic her voice while I'm saying that, No,
I shouldn't talkbacks are robust forum. It's a bit like parliament.
People get hit up. We're allowed to have opinions, we
should have differing opinions. But before I'm going to ask
(02:28):
anything of rmps, before I ask anything of my fellow journalists,
I'll have a look in the mirror and check myself out.
Speaker 3 (02:37):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (02:37):
I mean they are the House of Representatives, right, so
they are supposed to be reflecting.
Speaker 3 (02:46):
Society at large, more or less.
Speaker 2 (02:51):
So if you don't like what's going on there, as
carry says, maybe look at the.
Speaker 3 (02:55):
Mirror news talk has it been anyway? Does that mean
that Heather needs to suspend yourself?
Speaker 5 (03:02):
Whatever the punishment is going to end up being it
has to be harsh enough to stop the Marti Party
doing this again, or at least try to stop them
doing this again, because this is a strategy from this
from them. We need to see this stuff for what
it is.
Speaker 6 (03:15):
Right.
Speaker 5 (03:15):
This isn't like Julie Anjenta losing her rag in Parliament
in the heat of the moment, apologizing and then ending
up with just a censure and perhaps never doing it again.
The Maori Party break the rules deliberately. This is their strategy,
so you can assume that they will keep on doing it.
And the reason they keep on doing it is because
it gets some attention. Attention for wearing sneakers in the house,
Attention for wearing a cowboy hat in the house, attention
(03:37):
for doing a hukker in the house, attention for not
turning up to the Privileges Committee, attention for leaking the
recommendations of the Privileges Committee. And the list just goes on.
This isn't about they say, this is about teacung. It's
not about tea hunger. Sneakers are not tea hunger. This
is about breaking rules for attention. It's a pr strategy. Now,
three days without pay is not going to deter them.
To be honest, I don't even know that twenty one
(03:58):
days without pay will deter them, but it surely has
a better chance of doing it. And for the record,
twenty one days suspension is not that wild in the UK,
where our parliament derives from. Just in the last two years,
three MP's in the UK have copped suspensions of thirty
days or more. In twenty nineteen, one guy was suspended
for six months.
Speaker 4 (04:18):
Now.
Speaker 5 (04:18):
I don't know that we will ever get order back
into Parliament the way things have gone in the last
few months, but if we don't try, we definitely won't.
And so twenty one days in that context doesn't seem
overly harsh.
Speaker 2 (04:28):
Yeah, and it's not just sitting days either, that's the
weird part about it. I've never understood. It's the same
with sports suspensions. I've never understood when they are just
a period of time and not anything to do with
the time that you would actually be playing or in
this case, actually be turning up to Parliament. I mean,
(04:52):
I guess it's twenty one days where they're not allowed
to do mping.
Speaker 3 (04:57):
I suppose, so if they're.
Speaker 2 (05:00):
Out in the community and somebody comes to them, you know,
wanting some kind of problem solved.
Speaker 3 (05:06):
I guess they have to say.
Speaker 2 (05:07):
Sorry, I can't represent you right at the moment, constituent.
Speaker 3 (05:11):
I'm suspended. You's talk side now.
Speaker 2 (05:14):
Another interesting political party is the Greens.
Speaker 3 (05:17):
Of course.
Speaker 2 (05:19):
They've put out their budget ahead of the actual budget.
Speaker 3 (05:24):
Who cares, it's not anything.
Speaker 7 (05:26):
The election of John Key showed us that families are
ambitious in New Zealand. They believe in themselves to do better.
They're quite motivated and they are ready for this recession
to be over so that basically we can all just
get on with it. I've never doubted that spirit in
New Zealand. That spirit hasn't left for Australia. It's just
been hiding under a rock for six years. And yes,
(05:47):
there are social problems here in New Zealand too, But
what we learned from the fading days of Hipkin's reign
is that voters don't trust that if they give up
their hard earned money and assets, that the state has
the ability all the wherewithal to change any of this,
to fix any of it. They like the tea versions
(06:09):
of a Michael Joseph Savage. Many of the houses he
built still stand building never started on most of Chippy's.
And that brings us to the final Seaward communists, because
I don't know what else do you call them. The
Greens are planning a road show after this pre budget
announcement that they've done. My only question for Chloe Madama
(06:30):
and the rest of them, will you be traveling to
these towns and cities by bicycle or what?
Speaker 3 (06:37):
Will you be.
Speaker 7 (06:38):
Flying on an aeroplane?
Speaker 3 (06:40):
Don't give them ideas. Ryan.
Speaker 2 (06:43):
If there's one thing more annoying than a heck boy, it's.
Speaker 3 (06:48):
A gaggle of cyclists taking up the whole road. We
don't want that. Nobody wants that.
Speaker 2 (06:57):
All right, exciting weekend the Summission Impossible Dead Reckoning Path
two even deader and more reckoning or whatever it is
is coming out.
Speaker 3 (07:09):
It's Tyler excited.
Speaker 6 (07:11):
So Tom Cruise he has made a surprise appearance at Can'ts.
Speaker 8 (07:14):
Yeah, so he turned up hours ahead of the premiere
of Mission Impossible, the Final Reckoning, which has been long awaited,
and it was during a masterclass with the director Christopher mcquarie.
He's directed the last four Mission Impossible films, and yeah,
it was quite a surprise for everyone looking on. They
took some questions together, and obviously the big question is
is this actually the Final Mission Impossible movie?
Speaker 1 (07:34):
Ever?
Speaker 8 (07:34):
It's called the Final Reckoning but they wouldn't confirm it
one way or another, which is interesting, saying they just
want people to go and see it. So yeah, but
the early reviews are in it and largely positive. It's
it is nearly three hours long.
Speaker 6 (07:45):
So a good watch, close Mission impossible? What number is that?
Speaker 3 (07:48):
Is that number?
Speaker 6 (07:49):
I'm just trying to testing. Yeah, we must be up
to about seven. He's got a few more uppers sleep
And obviously those early reviews are saying quite positive things.
But when does it land in our cinemas so we.
Speaker 8 (08:03):
Can go and say it on the seventeenth from the Saturday.
So book tickets in very good.
Speaker 6 (08:09):
How do you feel about Tom Cruise? He's controversial, but
he makes good movies, makes very good movies.
Speaker 8 (08:15):
He's like the previous generation. I think, Yeah, he's.
Speaker 6 (08:18):
Getting up there now. Well, you know, we talked about
this during the air break. Sixtinto is not that old.
Speaker 3 (08:23):
But yeah, exactly.
Speaker 2 (08:25):
He loves that sort of stuff, be heavely and with
a sort of a boomery drive by there.
Speaker 3 (08:33):
He's aimed at people like me. I don't know that
I'm any more comfortable with Tom Cruise's.
Speaker 2 (08:42):
Non movie making behavior away from that world anyway.
Speaker 1 (08:50):
News talk has it been.
Speaker 3 (08:52):
I wonder if he has a hellipter? Is he a pilot?
Am I getting mixed up.
Speaker 2 (08:58):
With John Travolda, who definitely is a pilot, and also
of scientologists of talk. I've got a little bit off track,
and let's talk helicopters.
Speaker 3 (09:15):
That's what I want. That's what I was wanting to
do with Marcus.
Speaker 9 (09:17):
Now, if you don't know wes Mair, I'm not quite
sure where it is. It's like in a west never
used to be a suburb, but now it's a suburb
that people seem to go to. It's a bit mudflatty,
I think when the tides out, but it could be
all right the high tide. But west Mare it's the
suburb of the moment, it seems. And these people want
a helicopter pad but cheapest. I spent some time thinking
about this today, not a lot of time. And by
(09:40):
the way, there seems to be a pr offensive with
people doing well who knows what they're doing, but you know,
it sort of seems to be a charm offensive and
by the way, with the whole council hearing on whether
they should have a helicopter pad a helipad or not.
They do pay for this process. They foot the bill
for the consenting process. But the question I have, and
(10:05):
I don't even know what the answer is, who is
so busy they need a helicopter in the front lawn.
I mean, I can imagine if you were the president
or the Prime minister, or if you were some extraordinary
(10:27):
surgeon that could name their price and value their time
at home and wanted to just fly into organ transplants
at a second's notice.
Speaker 3 (10:36):
But who else I don't get it. Yeah, No, it's
a flex really, it really is.
Speaker 2 (10:46):
Surely it's much more trouble than fast to helicopter most places.
Speaker 3 (10:50):
In New Zealand and there's just a.
Speaker 2 (10:52):
Uber or whatever you know, ea scooter, that's a it's
a flex, I guess. And I've never had, like I've
got this amogent podcasting to get too across town thus
helicopter that you know.
Speaker 3 (11:12):
I think Marcus is on to something here.
Speaker 2 (11:17):
Actually, it makes you wonder why the the is it
the army or the navy or the airport it was
getting those helicopters the other day for billions of dollars
for five five help this.
Speaker 3 (11:28):
Poor helicopters in my very expensive.
Speaker 2 (11:34):
And there's mostly for search and rescue. But again I
can't quite understand why that's.
Speaker 3 (11:39):
The military's responsibility.
Speaker 2 (11:43):
So many questions. Sorry to end the week so uncertainly.
Maybe we'll have some firm answers of the weekend edition
of news Talks they've been on Monday.
Speaker 3 (11:53):
Probably not, but maybe US Talk Talk has it been.
Speaker 1 (11:59):
For more from news Talk said, be listen live on
air or online, and keep our shows with you wherever
you go with our podcast on iHeartRadio.
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