December 3, 2024 • 12 mins
THE BEST BITS IN A SILLIER PACKAGE (from Tuesday's Mike Hosking Breakfast) Who Does Roads Best?/Seek and You Shall Find... a Job/What America Is Good At/Ode to Pav/The Real Tree Scam
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Used Talk Sedby Talk said.
Speaker 3 (00:22):
Hello, my beautiful beanies, and welcome to the bean for Wednesday.
First with yesterday's news, I am Glen Hart, and we
are looking back at Tuesday.
Speaker 2 (00:32):
We've got a.
Speaker 3 (00:33):
Plan to get people off job seeker and actually into jobs.
Speaker 2 (00:39):
The Biden partners sent shock waves both through the US
and maybe even across the world.
Speaker 3 (00:52):
Marcus pays tribute to the humble Peblov.
Speaker 2 (00:57):
And the old Christmas Tree.
Speaker 3 (00:59):
Debate continues, but before any of that, Auckland Council has
taken transport back, as Wayne Brown finally act surely achieved something.
Speaker 4 (01:09):
Auckland Council has two elected councilors on the board of AT,
but Wayne Brown has argued that that model assigned far
too much of the major decision making around transport policy
in Auckland to unelected officials. He was always lamenting that
people come up to him in the street and moan
to him about problems that were actually AT's responsibility, not
(01:30):
realizing that the council itself had limited control overall contransport.
Now like all power of course, you have to be
careful what you wish for. If Auckland Council and local
boards are to have more authority over transport planning in
our biggest city, they will also have more of the
blame if residents don't feel they're making the right cause.
(01:51):
But under the changes, Auckland Council is going to retain
a transport CEO. It's just those big planning policies that
shift over to the council. And you've got to say,
you know, Wayne Brown's critics would have to accept he
has rised a lot of people as mayor, He's built
relationships on both sides of the political spectrum. He has
(02:14):
advocated effectively for Auckland's rate payers. He promised to get
greater control over the council control organizations and all contransport
was top of the list. And whether you like the
council's subsequent transport policies, whether you like the plans that
Auckland Council comes up with regarding transport and a Biggert city.
On that promise to rest back controls of the CEOs,
(02:37):
Wayne Brown has delivered, I'm.
Speaker 2 (02:39):
Getting that that sort of hollow Be careful what you
wish for feeling.
Speaker 3 (02:47):
Now that it's actually happening, I'm wondering if I want
a bunch of counselors perhaps are not experts and roading
and transport systems, to replace a bunch of people who
probably were, and saying that at is terrible.
Speaker 2 (03:03):
So oh suddenly I'm torn.
Speaker 1 (03:06):
News talk.
Speaker 3 (03:10):
And other developments of things finally happening after being promised
to happening.
Speaker 2 (03:17):
It looks like we've we've got a definite.
Speaker 3 (03:20):
Plan on how to get kids off jobs seeking and
into actual jobs, so they're not just permanently seeking.
Speaker 5 (03:25):
They're not some loser with their handout. That's what you started, Well,
that's certainly what I've been told. You start to feel
like that, You start to feel you've got nothing to
offer because nobody's nobody's telling you that you're valuable, that
you're essential. Without you being part of the team, they
couldn't do the job. That's a huge part of working
(03:48):
as being part of a team, a wider team. I
can't imagine how soul destroying it must be to have
you yourself the only person you see in a day,
no money, nothing to spend it on. If there are
ways that we can get people to understand that they
(04:09):
they're valuable, they have skills that are valued, and people
will pay for those skills. It would be fantastic. We've
also got highly skilled people who don't need to go
along to how to write a CV, so it'd be
great to see more targeted assistants. What would that look
like for you if you are one of those people,
(04:30):
perhaps in the Great Public service job cull, Do you
need assistance to find work or is it simply a
matter of waiting for the economy to pick up and
you'll be fine, thanks very much. You just need to
wait until Peo will get over the Collie wobbles and
start hiring again.
Speaker 3 (04:48):
Great use of the word collie wobbles. I haven't heard
that one for a while. I never went on the doll.
Speaker 2 (05:00):
I busked.
Speaker 3 (05:03):
Five days a week, like actually sometimes more than five
days a week, for about four hours a day in
the middle of the day in Victoria Street and Hamilton's,
and I made about the same amount of money as
I would have on the doll. I was just determined
that I wasn't going to be a person with my handout,
although obviously I had my hand out that people walking
past didn't really have my hand out.
Speaker 2 (05:24):
Both hands are on my guitar.
Speaker 3 (05:26):
But and I just wonder if people should be made
to busk if they've been on the job seeker for
too long and everybody's got a talent, haven't they. The
difficulty is, of course, that people just don't have cash
in their pockets like they used to, and you'd have
to set up some kind of QR code scenario, didn't you.
Speaker 2 (05:48):
I don't know what are there still buskers?
Speaker 3 (05:50):
I don't even know how that works now talk so yes,
Biden pardoning Biden. It's after he city, wouldn't It's it's
bad block, isn't it. But I mean, seriously, what did
everybody expect.
Speaker 6 (06:06):
He's lost the election, and quicker than you can say
out of jail free, he has flip flopped on that.
Convictions wiped clean. Hunter now won't face any jail time
or have a criminal record for two separate core cases,
some of them involving gun charges. By the way, their
constitution allows this, it allows presidents to pardon pretty much
(06:27):
anyone for federal crimes except themselves for impeachment. Trubb did
it on the way out too when he was in
last time. Obama both Bush's FDR apparently hit the record
with more than two thousand pardons when he left office.
At the same time that Biden proves his son is
in fact above the law. You've got the Department of
Justice dropping cases against Trump, left, right and center. Why
(06:51):
while they have a policy of not going after sitting presidents.
So we have a Department of Justice policy, we have
that pesky written constitution to blame. And that's fine. It's
their country, it's not mine. But aren't you kind of
glad that we don't mix politics with justice here like
they do in the States. When we say nobody's above
them law, we pretty much mean it, don't we. I
(07:14):
know some will argue that we apply the law unevenly,
and there are cases to be made for that, But
on political.
Speaker 2 (07:21):
Grounds, nah, we don't really do that. This is the.
Speaker 6 (07:25):
Department going after person a because they vote for labor
or they vote for act or whatever. It just doesn't
work like that here. The Americans do many things well,
but separation of powers, particularly when it comes to these
types of issues, doesn't appear to be one of them.
Speaker 3 (07:39):
What are the things that Americans do well? Again, spend
enormous amounts of money on the military.
Speaker 2 (07:52):
Industrial model. So that's one thing.
Speaker 3 (07:56):
I guess completely. Turn the diet of human beings upside
downs is another thing. Sorry America, going to what happen there,
it's going to be a bit of a downward spiral.
(08:17):
It's let's sepo tenners around. Speaking of things to eat,
especially at this time of the year, Tadlover, of course,
seems to be on the menu. Is it that overrated
peplover or how does Marcus feel about it?
Speaker 7 (08:30):
By the way, we need to also acknowledge, since we
are talking about the great Christmas providers, every time I'm
underned and going for a bit of a wander around,
I enjoy a great deal going past the place they
make the peblovers cowls, just a small, single level building
(08:50):
with a couple of roller doors, and they put out
the pevlovers that keep this country going at Christmas. Boys
and breezons and cream or whatever.
Speaker 6 (08:59):
Always good.
Speaker 7 (09:02):
And I don't know about you, right, but I reckon
it's easier to buy a Pavlover than make one, because
they are so good. And I'm not in the back
pocket of Big Pavlova or Big Bacon.
Speaker 2 (09:16):
But I just like to call it like it is.
Speaker 7 (09:20):
Local manufacturers, great Pa. Even during the egg shortage last year,
they're still doing their pavlovers right in the scarfe z
own one of the great providers. I hope they've been recognized.
Speaker 2 (09:33):
Yeah, and I just want to be played just that.
Speaker 7 (09:38):
Have a listen to this, still doing the pavlovers.
Speaker 2 (09:40):
Yeah, see, this is what happens. This is.
Speaker 3 (09:44):
Is it a Mandela effect? I don't know what it is,
but I think I may have.
Speaker 2 (09:48):
Told you this story before about how.
Speaker 3 (09:52):
I got marked down in a school essay once for
misspelling pavlova because so many people pronounce.
Speaker 7 (09:59):
It like this, still doing their pavlovers.
Speaker 3 (10:00):
There's no a in the middle of pavlova. It's not pablelov.
It's like triathlon. You're all pronouncing that wrong.
Speaker 2 (10:13):
I'll never get over that.
Speaker 1 (10:15):
News talk. Has it been?
Speaker 2 (10:17):
All right? So that's Christmas food. Let's talk about We're
opening about symbol of Christmas. The tree.
Speaker 3 (10:25):
You go natural or artificial. I mean, it's really only
one way to go, isn't there.
Speaker 8 (10:30):
I just bought a fully real Christmas tree. I bought
it on Friday on the way to work, put it
in my car, left it there all day it's put
resin everywhere. There's needles all over the place. But my
car does smell piny fresh. And I've put it up
in my house and it looks absolutely beautiful. As I say,
the smell, the lights. I am one hundred percent in
(10:50):
on real Christmas.
Speaker 2 (10:52):
Tree, tasteful decorations.
Speaker 4 (10:53):
I've got to say as well, you sent through a
photo looking beautiful with the Christmas light's going all day.
Speaker 2 (10:58):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (10:59):
But I hear what you say, real tree. I love
the idea of a real tree. As you say, it
smells nice, it's good for the environment. I don't know
about the price. How much did you pay for your tree?
Speaker 2 (11:08):
I paid seventy dollars for my tree.
Speaker 4 (11:10):
Oh there's pretty reasonable.
Speaker 8 (11:12):
There's plus, there is a new way they can get money,
because this is how the Christmas tree places they sell
the tree get the tree.
Speaker 5 (11:17):
Now.
Speaker 8 (11:17):
And then there's the special tree holder what do you
call it, the sort of thing with the screws and
it to hold it in place. Yep, yep, that's more.
It's not just a bucket with rocks anymore. But now
there's another thing that they try and sally, which is
these little balls, these little around balls of tree nutrients
that will apparently keep it going right up till after Christmas.
Speaker 2 (11:39):
What's going on?
Speaker 3 (11:41):
So every single thing that he's just said, there's an
argument against real trees. What I've not heard a single
cosun argument. People say the smell of a pine tree,
which in our house just gives everybody running eyes and
running nose.
Speaker 2 (12:01):
And etching faces. So that's not an argument.
Speaker 3 (12:05):
You can't hang decorations on the things properly because I
don't go out in any uniform sort of way, so
that it's all just a big mess. Needles everywhere, and
a yearly expense which sounds like they find ways to
wrote you even more every year.
Speaker 2 (12:29):
What are you doing? People? Stop it.
Speaker 3 (12:34):
Before you can get into the carbon footprint of cutting
down trees.
Speaker 2 (12:41):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (12:41):
Anyway, in case you haven't picked up, I'm an additat
for three guys, and I am bringing this podcast to
an end and we'll resume here again tomorrow.
Speaker 1 (12:52):
Sent Us Talks Talks It Been for more from News
Talk said b. Listen live on air or online and
keep our shows with you wherever you go with our
podcasts on iHeartRadio
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this and our wide range of podcasts now on iHeartRadio.
Speaker 2 (00:19):
Used Talk Sedby Talk said.
Speaker 3 (00:22):
Hello, my beautiful beanies, and welcome to the bean for Wednesday.
First with yesterday's news, I am Glen Hart, and we
are looking back at Tuesday.
Speaker 2 (00:32):
We've got a.
Speaker 3 (00:33):
Plan to get people off job seeker and actually into jobs.
Speaker 2 (00:39):
The Biden partners sent shock waves both through the US
and maybe even across the world.
Speaker 3 (00:52):
Marcus pays tribute to the humble Peblov.
Speaker 2 (00:57):
And the old Christmas Tree.
Speaker 3 (00:59):
Debate continues, but before any of that, Auckland Council has
taken transport back, as Wayne Brown finally act surely achieved something.
Speaker 4 (01:09):
Auckland Council has two elected councilors on the board of AT,
but Wayne Brown has argued that that model assigned far
too much of the major decision making around transport policy
in Auckland to unelected officials. He was always lamenting that
people come up to him in the street and moan
to him about problems that were actually AT's responsibility, not
(01:30):
realizing that the council itself had limited control overall contransport.
Now like all power of course, you have to be
careful what you wish for. If Auckland Council and local
boards are to have more authority over transport planning in
our biggest city, they will also have more of the
blame if residents don't feel they're making the right cause.
(01:51):
But under the changes, Auckland Council is going to retain
a transport CEO. It's just those big planning policies that
shift over to the council. And you've got to say,
you know, Wayne Brown's critics would have to accept he
has rised a lot of people as mayor, He's built
relationships on both sides of the political spectrum. He has
(02:14):
advocated effectively for Auckland's rate payers. He promised to get
greater control over the council control organizations and all contransport
was top of the list. And whether you like the
council's subsequent transport policies, whether you like the plans that
Auckland Council comes up with regarding transport and a Biggert city.
On that promise to rest back controls of the CEOs,
(02:37):
Wayne Brown has delivered, I'm.
Speaker 2 (02:39):
Getting that that sort of hollow Be careful what you
wish for feeling.
Speaker 3 (02:47):
Now that it's actually happening, I'm wondering if I want
a bunch of counselors perhaps are not experts and roading
and transport systems, to replace a bunch of people who
probably were, and saying that at is terrible.
Speaker 2 (03:03):
So oh suddenly I'm torn.
Speaker 1 (03:06):
News talk.
Speaker 3 (03:10):
And other developments of things finally happening after being promised
to happening.
Speaker 2 (03:17):
It looks like we've we've got a definite.
Speaker 3 (03:20):
Plan on how to get kids off jobs seeking and
into actual jobs, so they're not just permanently seeking.
Speaker 5 (03:25):
They're not some loser with their handout. That's what you started, Well,
that's certainly what I've been told. You start to feel
like that, You start to feel you've got nothing to
offer because nobody's nobody's telling you that you're valuable, that
you're essential. Without you being part of the team, they
couldn't do the job. That's a huge part of working
(03:48):
as being part of a team, a wider team. I
can't imagine how soul destroying it must be to have
you yourself the only person you see in a day,
no money, nothing to spend it on. If there are
ways that we can get people to understand that they
(04:09):
they're valuable, they have skills that are valued, and people
will pay for those skills. It would be fantastic. We've
also got highly skilled people who don't need to go
along to how to write a CV, so it'd be
great to see more targeted assistants. What would that look
like for you if you are one of those people,
(04:30):
perhaps in the Great Public service job cull, Do you
need assistance to find work or is it simply a
matter of waiting for the economy to pick up and
you'll be fine, thanks very much. You just need to
wait until Peo will get over the Collie wobbles and
start hiring again.
Speaker 3 (04:48):
Great use of the word collie wobbles. I haven't heard
that one for a while. I never went on the doll.
Speaker 2 (05:00):
I busked.
Speaker 3 (05:03):
Five days a week, like actually sometimes more than five
days a week, for about four hours a day in
the middle of the day in Victoria Street and Hamilton's,
and I made about the same amount of money as
I would have on the doll. I was just determined
that I wasn't going to be a person with my handout,
although obviously I had my hand out that people walking
past didn't really have my hand out.
Speaker 2 (05:24):
Both hands are on my guitar.
Speaker 3 (05:26):
But and I just wonder if people should be made
to busk if they've been on the job seeker for
too long and everybody's got a talent, haven't they. The
difficulty is, of course, that people just don't have cash
in their pockets like they used to, and you'd have
to set up some kind of QR code scenario, didn't you.
Speaker 2 (05:48):
I don't know what are there still buskers?
Speaker 3 (05:50):
I don't even know how that works now talk so yes,
Biden pardoning Biden. It's after he city, wouldn't It's it's
bad block, isn't it. But I mean, seriously, what did
everybody expect.
Speaker 6 (06:06):
He's lost the election, and quicker than you can say
out of jail free, he has flip flopped on that.
Convictions wiped clean. Hunter now won't face any jail time
or have a criminal record for two separate core cases,
some of them involving gun charges. By the way, their
constitution allows this, it allows presidents to pardon pretty much
(06:27):
anyone for federal crimes except themselves for impeachment. Trubb did
it on the way out too when he was in
last time. Obama both Bush's FDR apparently hit the record
with more than two thousand pardons when he left office.
At the same time that Biden proves his son is
in fact above the law. You've got the Department of
Justice dropping cases against Trump, left, right and center. Why
(06:51):
while they have a policy of not going after sitting presidents.
So we have a Department of Justice policy, we have
that pesky written constitution to blame. And that's fine. It's
their country, it's not mine. But aren't you kind of
glad that we don't mix politics with justice here like
they do in the States. When we say nobody's above
them law, we pretty much mean it, don't we. I
(07:14):
know some will argue that we apply the law unevenly,
and there are cases to be made for that, But
on political.
Speaker 2 (07:21):
Grounds, nah, we don't really do that. This is the.
Speaker 6 (07:25):
Department going after person a because they vote for labor
or they vote for act or whatever. It just doesn't
work like that here. The Americans do many things well,
but separation of powers, particularly when it comes to these
types of issues, doesn't appear to be one of them.
Speaker 3 (07:39):
What are the things that Americans do well? Again, spend
enormous amounts of money on the military.
Speaker 2 (07:52):
Industrial model. So that's one thing.
Speaker 3 (07:56):
I guess completely. Turn the diet of human beings upside
downs is another thing. Sorry America, going to what happen there,
it's going to be a bit of a downward spiral.
(08:17):
It's let's sepo tenners around. Speaking of things to eat,
especially at this time of the year, Tadlover, of course,
seems to be on the menu. Is it that overrated
peplover or how does Marcus feel about it?
Speaker 7 (08:30):
By the way, we need to also acknowledge, since we
are talking about the great Christmas providers, every time I'm
underned and going for a bit of a wander around,
I enjoy a great deal going past the place they
make the peblovers cowls, just a small, single level building
(08:50):
with a couple of roller doors, and they put out
the pevlovers that keep this country going at Christmas. Boys
and breezons and cream or whatever.
Speaker 6 (08:59):
Always good.
Speaker 7 (09:02):
And I don't know about you, right, but I reckon
it's easier to buy a Pavlover than make one, because
they are so good. And I'm not in the back
pocket of Big Pavlova or Big Bacon.
Speaker 2 (09:16):
But I just like to call it like it is.
Speaker 7 (09:20):
Local manufacturers, great Pa. Even during the egg shortage last year,
they're still doing their pavlovers right in the scarfe z
own one of the great providers. I hope they've been recognized.
Speaker 2 (09:33):
Yeah, and I just want to be played just that.
Speaker 7 (09:38):
Have a listen to this, still doing the pavlovers.
Speaker 2 (09:40):
Yeah, see, this is what happens. This is.
Speaker 3 (09:44):
Is it a Mandela effect? I don't know what it is,
but I think I may have.
Speaker 2 (09:48):
Told you this story before about how.
Speaker 3 (09:52):
I got marked down in a school essay once for
misspelling pavlova because so many people pronounce.
Speaker 7 (09:59):
It like this, still doing their pavlovers.
Speaker 3 (10:00):
There's no a in the middle of pavlova. It's not pablelov.
It's like triathlon. You're all pronouncing that wrong.
Speaker 2 (10:13):
I'll never get over that.
Speaker 1 (10:15):
News talk. Has it been?
Speaker 2 (10:17):
All right? So that's Christmas food. Let's talk about We're
opening about symbol of Christmas. The tree.
Speaker 3 (10:25):
You go natural or artificial. I mean, it's really only
one way to go, isn't there.
Speaker 8 (10:30):
I just bought a fully real Christmas tree. I bought
it on Friday on the way to work, put it
in my car, left it there all day it's put
resin everywhere. There's needles all over the place. But my
car does smell piny fresh. And I've put it up
in my house and it looks absolutely beautiful. As I say,
the smell, the lights. I am one hundred percent in
(10:50):
on real Christmas.
Speaker 2 (10:52):
Tree, tasteful decorations.
Speaker 4 (10:53):
I've got to say as well, you sent through a
photo looking beautiful with the Christmas light's going all day.
Speaker 2 (10:58):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (10:59):
But I hear what you say, real tree. I love
the idea of a real tree. As you say, it
smells nice, it's good for the environment. I don't know
about the price. How much did you pay for your tree?
Speaker 2 (11:08):
I paid seventy dollars for my tree.
Speaker 4 (11:10):
Oh there's pretty reasonable.
Speaker 8 (11:12):
There's plus, there is a new way they can get money,
because this is how the Christmas tree places they sell
the tree get the tree.
Speaker 5 (11:17):
Now.
Speaker 8 (11:17):
And then there's the special tree holder what do you
call it, the sort of thing with the screws and
it to hold it in place. Yep, yep, that's more.
It's not just a bucket with rocks anymore. But now
there's another thing that they try and sally, which is
these little balls, these little around balls of tree nutrients
that will apparently keep it going right up till after Christmas.
Speaker 2 (11:39):
What's going on?
Speaker 3 (11:41):
So every single thing that he's just said, there's an
argument against real trees. What I've not heard a single
cosun argument. People say the smell of a pine tree,
which in our house just gives everybody running eyes and
running nose.
Speaker 2 (12:01):
And etching faces. So that's not an argument.
Speaker 3 (12:05):
You can't hang decorations on the things properly because I
don't go out in any uniform sort of way, so
that it's all just a big mess. Needles everywhere, and
a yearly expense which sounds like they find ways to
wrote you even more every year.
Speaker 2 (12:29):
What are you doing? People? Stop it.
Speaker 3 (12:34):
Before you can get into the carbon footprint of cutting
down trees.
Speaker 2 (12:41):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (12:41):
Anyway, in case you haven't picked up, I'm an additat
for three guys, and I am bringing this podcast to
an end and we'll resume here again tomorrow.
Speaker 1 (12:52):
Sent Us Talks Talks It Been for more from News
Talk said b. Listen live on air or online and
keep our shows with you wherever you go with our
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