June 30, 2024 • 12 mins
FIRST WITH YESTERDAY'S NEWS (highlights from the long weekend on Newstalk ZB) As Expected/Razor's Reign Begins/Roads Still Seem to Be Happening/A Good Reason to Stare at the Ocean
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Speaker 1 (00:09):
You're listening to a podcast from News Talk sed B.
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Speaker 2 (00:21):
Said Hello, my beautiful beanies, and welcome to the bean
The weekend edition, Long Weekend Edition. First with yesterday's news.
I am Glen Hart. Welcome back to me and we
are looking back at Sunday, Saturday and indeed Friday. Crazy
(00:42):
old long Weekenda is still getting used to the idea
of this extra long weekend.
Speaker 3 (00:47):
Get used to it. It's the third time it's happened.
I think.
Speaker 2 (00:51):
Should be used to it by nair us. Old people,
we take a long time to get used to things
like that. Scott Robertson not old, but is the All
Blacks coach. He explains how hard it has been the
All Blacks coach when it comes to selection time, the
transport structure budget, how do they pay for it now
that they're not charging Uklan quite so much for their petrol?
(01:15):
And have you ever tried to count all the whales
and dolphins? But before any of that, the presidential debate,
disaster for America, super disaster for Biden.
Speaker 4 (01:27):
There are maybe a couple of positives in this just
imagine for a moment if this wasn't an abnormally early
election debate. That was one of the things that really
distinguished this debate. It's way earlier than they would usually
have them. Imagine if yesterday was a couple of weeks
before the election. Even though it is an unprecedented situation,
(01:48):
there is still time for the Dems to scramble and
to find a new candidate. Yeah, it's funny in watching
the debate or the fallout from the debate and imagining
what's going to happen if Biden does stand down. I
was reminded of our own election in twenty seventeen when
Andrew Little stepped aside and justinder Ardun became Labour's leader.
(02:09):
You know, she enjoyed that huge surgeon popularity, just Sindo Mania.
It is totally possible to imagine a world in which
a new Democrat candidate would experience something similar. Can't be Biden,
can't be Carmela Harris. And look, even if a new
candidate didn't experience a just sinder Mania effect, even if
(02:31):
a new candidate was defeated come November and lost to Trump,
would the result honestly be any worse for the Democrats
than that which they're heading towards right now. It's simple,
as far as I'm concerned, either Joe Biden stands aside
or Joe Biden will be defeat.
Speaker 2 (02:51):
So I've been on holiday for a couple of weeks,
and I make it my business to completely ignore the
news when I'm on holiday.
Speaker 3 (03:01):
So it was great not watching that debate. It felt awesome.
News talk ze been all right.
Speaker 2 (03:07):
I knew that it was a debate happening, but it
was going to happen before I went on holiday, So
that's I'm claiming. That's how I knew. Fred Jescra I
think also watched some of it, and surely nobody watched
all of it.
Speaker 3 (03:21):
Did.
Speaker 5 (03:21):
The Biden's team called this debate and set the rules.
Struggling in the polls and constantly having to answer concerns
about his age and ability to lead for another four years,
they decided to debate early and calm all those fears.
So it all came down to performance and delivery. Neither
candidate Sean Trump's performance was full of bluster and inaccuracies.
(03:44):
He struggled to answer questions and at time made no sense.
But Biden had an even worse day. This has sent
the Democratic Party into a spin, and rightly so. If
you weren't concerned about Biden's mental capacity a couple of
days ago, you surely are now post Friday's debate. President
Biden and his team have been doing everything they can
to demonstrate he still has the energy and capacity to lead,
(04:07):
but the damage is done. Biden got the job to
beat Trump in the November election largely because he's done
it before. The Democrats may need to widen the job requirements.
Replacing Biden on the ticket is not something the Democrats
will do lightly, and it can only be done if
Biden steps down. But surely it must be done now.
Speaker 2 (04:28):
Well, no, it's they're not going to do that, So
they'd really be shitting shooting themselves in there if they
did it at the stage. And let's not forget he
won the last election and he really did have to
put up a fight against other candidates that last election.
(04:49):
S Berney Sanders among others who survived all through that.
Speaker 3 (04:58):
Your peak foot of us remember all that? What do
you mean you don't remember? It was only four years ago?
Speaker 2 (05:04):
Us talk sad, not as long ago was us losing
the world Cup.
Speaker 6 (05:14):
Final.
Speaker 3 (05:16):
But you know, so anyway, new coach, new team, here
we go into it.
Speaker 7 (05:21):
How conscious did you have to be when selecting the
team of your association with the Crusaders and making sure
that there was no suggestion that you were just picking
guys so you had a great knowledge of from your
time at the Crusaders. Did that come into your mind
at all?
Speaker 8 (05:38):
Well, I'm picking the best players, you know. I think
that's the key thing. Whatever duties, they're wearing, the best
players for that position in our country. Obviously there's going
to be combinations and the you know, experience, and but
there was my mindset pick the best player. You know,
we've got a really good balanced squad. And you know,
(06:01):
you always have people challenge your thoughts, you know. The
way we set it up with our selection and our criteria,
with the select, with the coaching staff doing it and
Smithy had a customer on it when you need to
and we had discussions. So look, I think it's really
really balanced. And I think if you're a coach and
you've coached a team, it's naturally people ask that question,
isn't it. Yeah, the last coach probably had the same
(06:23):
question as the last coach the same question, so that
you're doing your job well, I.
Speaker 7 (06:28):
Guess, because I think people just assume, and I'm sure
it's the case that you have got a deeper relationship
with guys who you've guided for nearly a decade in
Black and Red. You know what makes them tick, you
know what they're capable of. So I guess it would
be natural in any ways to say, you know what,
I know what that guy's about. I'm not quite sure
about that guy. If it's a flip of the corn,
you take the guy you know, don't you.
Speaker 8 (06:48):
Yeah, But I suppose it's been an unconscious bias or
is a natural bias towards people you know and you've
had desist and trust, but it's still gonna be earned.
I think that's the first thing, you know. And you
said with a squad that we've picked.
Speaker 3 (07:03):
I am.
Speaker 2 (07:04):
I'm not sure whether Jason asked them. The big question
I think everybody wants the answer to is will we
still break dance.
Speaker 3 (07:13):
On the field as the All Blecks coach. I'm sure
we will, so happy day in Auckland.
Speaker 2 (07:22):
Today, petrol is about twelve cents cheaper in theory, if
the regional fuel tax is gone.
Speaker 3 (07:33):
So how are we going to pay for all.
Speaker 9 (07:34):
The roads again seven billion dollars a year over the
next ten years to build and maintain a transport system
to help us get around a cynical question, will we notice?
Speaker 6 (07:48):
Well, absolutely, we're focused not just on spending taxpayers money
on improving our transport system, but actually on getting outcomes
for New Zealanders. Ultimately, when people pay fuel tex at
the pump or road user charges by looking at outcomes.
And so we've made it very clear that we want
to see improved dot com terms of road maintenance. We're
(08:09):
setting clear expectations of the agency around how many what
percentage of the road actually needs to be maintained on
an annual basis, and we're setting very clear expectations around
the roads of regional significance and roads of national significance
which New Zealanders want. And starting from tomorrow, NDT will
be improving its response to potholes, improving the maintenance that
(08:32):
it's doing with roading network, and also we're going to
see been putting more money towards in sport as well,
so that we can give a more reliable service. But
ultimately you're right, and New Zealanders have high expectations and
that's my job as Minister of Transport is to make
sure that this delivers the outcomes.
Speaker 3 (08:48):
New Zealanders want the rubbers literally meeting the road there. Now,
what's this space?
Speaker 2 (08:59):
I mean, I haven't seen. I've got some roads being
built on my personal commute.
Speaker 3 (09:07):
They seem they're still being built today. They didn't suddenly
stop building them. The petrol is cheaper. See how we
Go news talk has it been?
Speaker 2 (09:19):
There was a special Martoriki breakfast show on Friday.
Speaker 3 (09:26):
And it was hosted by Tim Beveridge. Work at a
double Tim Beverbridge. At the end of this podcast, we've
double hanging up a double beverage for the long weekend.
Speaker 2 (09:38):
I'm sure we were the only ones having a double
beverage anyway. And the kind of interview you have on
those sorts of shows involved things like, oh, it's the
annual Dolphin and Whale count. I know who knew that
we were doing that?
Speaker 9 (09:52):
How does this work? Whale and Dolphin count?
Speaker 10 (09:55):
Is it?
Speaker 9 (09:56):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (09:57):
Tell us?
Speaker 9 (09:57):
How are you doing in the survey?
Speaker 10 (10:00):
Thanks? Well? The country wide Whale and Dolphin Count. This
is our fifth year and it's brought to the country
by the Whale and dolphin watch news Land or cetacean
Spotting in said Facebook group, and it's really easy to
take part, especially on a weekend that's shaping up to
be as beautiful as this one is. We just encourage
people to go to the coastline and steer out to
(10:22):
see for a couple of hours and support what people
see it.
Speaker 9 (10:26):
So it doesn't sound massively scientific. Is it more an
awareness thing of just sort of focusing on wales and
dolphins and getting a feel for I don't know what
are we trying to get from it.
Speaker 10 (10:40):
Yeah, it's a couple of things. So firstly, it's a
real celebration of the marine life that we share our
world with, and in particular New Zealand's coastline. We do
have a high number of different whales and dolphins in
our coastline and we've got a lot of coastline so
that's really exciting. So we want people to be aware
of the wales and dolphins that are in New Zealand,
(11:02):
and even those in particular this time of year that
are moving up the coastline, So the humpbacks in the
Southern light whales that are migrating from Antarctica up to
the tropics and can be seen if we're lucky, from
from shore. And so it's about raising awareness of those
that live here all the time and those that are passing,
and encouraging people to be stewards of that marine life.
(11:25):
But by doing and doing so bringing focus and you know,
to the fact that people can stand on on headlands.
You don't need a boat, you don't need to pay
big butts to get out on the water if you're
if you are focused and you spend a couple of hours,
there are there is a chance. It's never a guarantee
that you will see whales and dolphins, But I mean
(11:46):
part of the fun is in the looking and the
fact that it's a family friendly opportunity to get out
in nature in the middle of winter. Address our seasonal
what is it? What's sad? Seasonal adjustment disorder?
Speaker 2 (12:00):
It's a time of the times, isn't it that we
feel like we've got to have a reason to.
Speaker 3 (12:04):
Go out and sphere at the ocean? What you do
steering at the ocean? Why? Just because yeah, that does
sound a bit strange. But now that I said.
Speaker 2 (12:14):
About that, I'm counting dolphins and whales. Marginally bitter, I
am Glen Hart again. Welcome back to me. I can't
say welcome back to me enough. And don't worry, it won't.
Speaker 3 (12:33):
Be two weeks until you hear from me again. I'll
be back tomorrow.
Speaker 1 (12:36):
See that News Talks Talking zid Bean for more from
News Talk said b. Listen live on air or online,
and keep our shows with you wherever you go with
our podcasts on iHeartRadio
You're listening to a podcast from News Talk sed B.
Follow this and our wide range of podcasts now on
iHeartRadio Used Talk sed be you Talk.
Speaker 2 (00:21):
Said Hello, my beautiful beanies, and welcome to the bean
The weekend edition, Long Weekend Edition. First with yesterday's news.
I am Glen Hart. Welcome back to me and we
are looking back at Sunday, Saturday and indeed Friday. Crazy
(00:42):
old long Weekenda is still getting used to the idea
of this extra long weekend.
Speaker 3 (00:47):
Get used to it. It's the third time it's happened.
I think.
Speaker 2 (00:51):
Should be used to it by nair us. Old people,
we take a long time to get used to things
like that. Scott Robertson not old, but is the All
Blacks coach. He explains how hard it has been the
All Blacks coach when it comes to selection time, the
transport structure budget, how do they pay for it now
that they're not charging Uklan quite so much for their petrol?
(01:15):
And have you ever tried to count all the whales
and dolphins? But before any of that, the presidential debate,
disaster for America, super disaster for Biden.
Speaker 4 (01:27):
There are maybe a couple of positives in this just
imagine for a moment if this wasn't an abnormally early
election debate. That was one of the things that really
distinguished this debate. It's way earlier than they would usually
have them. Imagine if yesterday was a couple of weeks
before the election. Even though it is an unprecedented situation,
(01:48):
there is still time for the Dems to scramble and
to find a new candidate. Yeah, it's funny in watching
the debate or the fallout from the debate and imagining
what's going to happen if Biden does stand down. I
was reminded of our own election in twenty seventeen when
Andrew Little stepped aside and justinder Ardun became Labour's leader.
(02:09):
You know, she enjoyed that huge surgeon popularity, just Sindo Mania.
It is totally possible to imagine a world in which
a new Democrat candidate would experience something similar. Can't be Biden,
can't be Carmela Harris. And look, even if a new
candidate didn't experience a just sinder Mania effect, even if
(02:31):
a new candidate was defeated come November and lost to Trump,
would the result honestly be any worse for the Democrats
than that which they're heading towards right now. It's simple,
as far as I'm concerned, either Joe Biden stands aside
or Joe Biden will be defeat.
Speaker 2 (02:51):
So I've been on holiday for a couple of weeks,
and I make it my business to completely ignore the
news when I'm on holiday.
Speaker 3 (03:01):
So it was great not watching that debate. It felt awesome.
News talk ze been all right.
Speaker 2 (03:07):
I knew that it was a debate happening, but it
was going to happen before I went on holiday, So
that's I'm claiming. That's how I knew. Fred Jescra I
think also watched some of it, and surely nobody watched
all of it.
Speaker 3 (03:21):
Did.
Speaker 5 (03:21):
The Biden's team called this debate and set the rules.
Struggling in the polls and constantly having to answer concerns
about his age and ability to lead for another four years,
they decided to debate early and calm all those fears.
So it all came down to performance and delivery. Neither
candidate Sean Trump's performance was full of bluster and inaccuracies.
(03:44):
He struggled to answer questions and at time made no sense.
But Biden had an even worse day. This has sent
the Democratic Party into a spin, and rightly so. If
you weren't concerned about Biden's mental capacity a couple of
days ago, you surely are now post Friday's debate. President
Biden and his team have been doing everything they can
to demonstrate he still has the energy and capacity to lead,
(04:07):
but the damage is done. Biden got the job to
beat Trump in the November election largely because he's done
it before. The Democrats may need to widen the job requirements.
Replacing Biden on the ticket is not something the Democrats
will do lightly, and it can only be done if
Biden steps down. But surely it must be done now.
Speaker 2 (04:28):
Well, no, it's they're not going to do that, So
they'd really be shitting shooting themselves in there if they
did it at the stage. And let's not forget he
won the last election and he really did have to
put up a fight against other candidates that last election.
(04:49):
S Berney Sanders among others who survived all through that.
Speaker 3 (04:58):
Your peak foot of us remember all that? What do
you mean you don't remember? It was only four years ago?
Speaker 2 (05:04):
Us talk sad, not as long ago was us losing
the world Cup.
Speaker 6 (05:14):
Final.
Speaker 3 (05:16):
But you know, so anyway, new coach, new team, here
we go into it.
Speaker 7 (05:21):
How conscious did you have to be when selecting the
team of your association with the Crusaders and making sure
that there was no suggestion that you were just picking
guys so you had a great knowledge of from your
time at the Crusaders. Did that come into your mind
at all?
Speaker 8 (05:38):
Well, I'm picking the best players, you know. I think
that's the key thing. Whatever duties, they're wearing, the best
players for that position in our country. Obviously there's going
to be combinations and the you know, experience, and but
there was my mindset pick the best player. You know,
we've got a really good balanced squad. And you know,
(06:01):
you always have people challenge your thoughts, you know. The
way we set it up with our selection and our criteria,
with the select, with the coaching staff doing it and
Smithy had a customer on it when you need to
and we had discussions. So look, I think it's really
really balanced. And I think if you're a coach and
you've coached a team, it's naturally people ask that question,
isn't it. Yeah, the last coach probably had the same
(06:23):
question as the last coach the same question, so that
you're doing your job well, I.
Speaker 7 (06:28):
Guess, because I think people just assume, and I'm sure
it's the case that you have got a deeper relationship
with guys who you've guided for nearly a decade in
Black and Red. You know what makes them tick, you
know what they're capable of. So I guess it would
be natural in any ways to say, you know what,
I know what that guy's about. I'm not quite sure
about that guy. If it's a flip of the corn,
you take the guy you know, don't you.
Speaker 8 (06:48):
Yeah, But I suppose it's been an unconscious bias or
is a natural bias towards people you know and you've
had desist and trust, but it's still gonna be earned.
I think that's the first thing, you know. And you
said with a squad that we've picked.
Speaker 3 (07:03):
I am.
Speaker 2 (07:04):
I'm not sure whether Jason asked them. The big question
I think everybody wants the answer to is will we
still break dance.
Speaker 3 (07:13):
On the field as the All Blecks coach. I'm sure
we will, so happy day in Auckland.
Speaker 2 (07:22):
Today, petrol is about twelve cents cheaper in theory, if
the regional fuel tax is gone.
Speaker 3 (07:33):
So how are we going to pay for all.
Speaker 9 (07:34):
The roads again seven billion dollars a year over the
next ten years to build and maintain a transport system
to help us get around a cynical question, will we notice?
Speaker 6 (07:48):
Well, absolutely, we're focused not just on spending taxpayers money
on improving our transport system, but actually on getting outcomes
for New Zealanders. Ultimately, when people pay fuel tex at
the pump or road user charges by looking at outcomes.
And so we've made it very clear that we want
to see improved dot com terms of road maintenance. We're
(08:09):
setting clear expectations of the agency around how many what
percentage of the road actually needs to be maintained on
an annual basis, and we're setting very clear expectations around
the roads of regional significance and roads of national significance
which New Zealanders want. And starting from tomorrow, NDT will
be improving its response to potholes, improving the maintenance that
(08:32):
it's doing with roading network, and also we're going to
see been putting more money towards in sport as well,
so that we can give a more reliable service. But
ultimately you're right, and New Zealanders have high expectations and
that's my job as Minister of Transport is to make
sure that this delivers the outcomes.
Speaker 3 (08:48):
New Zealanders want the rubbers literally meeting the road there. Now,
what's this space?
Speaker 2 (08:59):
I mean, I haven't seen. I've got some roads being
built on my personal commute.
Speaker 3 (09:07):
They seem they're still being built today. They didn't suddenly
stop building them. The petrol is cheaper. See how we
Go news talk has it been?
Speaker 2 (09:19):
There was a special Martoriki breakfast show on Friday.
Speaker 3 (09:26):
And it was hosted by Tim Beveridge. Work at a
double Tim Beverbridge. At the end of this podcast, we've
double hanging up a double beverage for the long weekend.
Speaker 2 (09:38):
I'm sure we were the only ones having a double
beverage anyway. And the kind of interview you have on
those sorts of shows involved things like, oh, it's the
annual Dolphin and Whale count. I know who knew that
we were doing that?
Speaker 9 (09:52):
How does this work? Whale and Dolphin count?
Speaker 10 (09:55):
Is it?
Speaker 9 (09:56):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (09:57):
Tell us?
Speaker 9 (09:57):
How are you doing in the survey?
Speaker 10 (10:00):
Thanks? Well? The country wide Whale and Dolphin Count. This
is our fifth year and it's brought to the country
by the Whale and dolphin watch news Land or cetacean
Spotting in said Facebook group, and it's really easy to
take part, especially on a weekend that's shaping up to
be as beautiful as this one is. We just encourage
people to go to the coastline and steer out to
(10:22):
see for a couple of hours and support what people
see it.
Speaker 9 (10:26):
So it doesn't sound massively scientific. Is it more an
awareness thing of just sort of focusing on wales and
dolphins and getting a feel for I don't know what
are we trying to get from it.
Speaker 10 (10:40):
Yeah, it's a couple of things. So firstly, it's a
real celebration of the marine life that we share our
world with, and in particular New Zealand's coastline. We do
have a high number of different whales and dolphins in
our coastline and we've got a lot of coastline so
that's really exciting. So we want people to be aware
of the wales and dolphins that are in New Zealand,
(11:02):
and even those in particular this time of year that
are moving up the coastline, So the humpbacks in the
Southern light whales that are migrating from Antarctica up to
the tropics and can be seen if we're lucky, from
from shore. And so it's about raising awareness of those
that live here all the time and those that are passing,
and encouraging people to be stewards of that marine life.
(11:25):
But by doing and doing so bringing focus and you know,
to the fact that people can stand on on headlands.
You don't need a boat, you don't need to pay
big butts to get out on the water if you're
if you are focused and you spend a couple of hours,
there are there is a chance. It's never a guarantee
that you will see whales and dolphins, But I mean
(11:46):
part of the fun is in the looking and the
fact that it's a family friendly opportunity to get out
in nature in the middle of winter. Address our seasonal
what is it? What's sad? Seasonal adjustment disorder?
Speaker 2 (12:00):
It's a time of the times, isn't it that we
feel like we've got to have a reason to.
Speaker 3 (12:04):
Go out and sphere at the ocean? What you do
steering at the ocean? Why? Just because yeah, that does
sound a bit strange. But now that I said.
Speaker 2 (12:14):
About that, I'm counting dolphins and whales. Marginally bitter, I
am Glen Hart again. Welcome back to me. I can't
say welcome back to me enough. And don't worry, it won't.
Speaker 3 (12:33):
Be two weeks until you hear from me again. I'll
be back tomorrow.
Speaker 1 (12:36):
See that News Talks Talking zid Bean for more from
News Talk said b. Listen live on air or online,
and keep our shows with you wherever you go with
our podcasts on iHeartRadio
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