July 10, 2025 • 11 mins
FIRST WITH YESTERDAY'S NEWS (highlights from Thursday on Newstalk ZB) Keep Making Money at Any Cost/What Happened to the Green Shoots?/Two-Syllable Nuclear Memories
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Speaker 1 (00:09):
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Speaker 2 (00:24):
Hello, my beautiful beanies, and welcome to the bean for Friday.
First with yesterday's news, I am len Hart, and we're
looking back at Thursday, which was the day after OCA Day.
So exciting. There's some kind of Rainbow Warrior anniversary hitning,
(00:45):
you know, what's why we're still anyway. We'll get into that,
but before any of that, the mind that's been put
on ice while they move some lizards sounds silly, But
is it silly?
Speaker 3 (01:03):
You're lizards or jobs? Do you want a company that's
going to get some export earnings in to help us
get back on track or do you're not We're not
talking about taking a thundering great excavator and churning up
the ground and leaving it a sad and sorry, toxic mess.
(01:24):
Modern day mining is vastly different to what it used
to be. The lizards all carefully, I mean, it's not
even as if McCrae says, bug of the lizards, you know,
they said, we will lovingly pick them up and transport
them somewhere where they can live in lizard like they
used to. But docsy, no, no, we're no, that's not
(01:48):
the plan. We like, we can come on.
Speaker 1 (01:53):
You know.
Speaker 3 (01:53):
One when you get in an attitude like this from Doc,
then it hardens other people's attitudes. People might have said, yeah,
love a lizard, you know, good on them. If they
can move them, that'd be great. But when you've got
Doc saying no, that plans no, not good enough, and
they stall and they ensure that companies have to pay
(02:14):
more and more and that people don't get to sign
on to work, and the mccrays go, you know what
stuff it or not McCrae's, but Oceana decide, you know
what's stuff it's They do the sums, they do the
number crunching, and there it's not worth our while to
be here, and they leave. I don't think in this
case that it is the best thing for the New
(02:36):
Zealand that the lizards win.
Speaker 2 (02:38):
Yeah, it's a slippery slope when we turn our back
on biodiversity. It seems ironic to me that this has
come up in the same week that everybody's talking about
bringing the moa back. I mean, have we not agreed
that a species going extinct. Probably isn't the best thing
(02:58):
for the environment, and we should make an effort.
Speaker 4 (03:03):
News talk Z been right.
Speaker 2 (03:06):
I bet you were absolutely riveted by that big OCR announcement,
which is that nothing was changing. Ah exciting stuff.
Speaker 5 (03:15):
An economy that has some very flat spots in between
primary produce and tourism. But the Reserve banks perview is
inflation and low interest rates fires on consumerism fires on inflation.
So they haven't lowered the rate. It's fair to say
the RB will not do what the government would like
it to do. But meanwhile the government pulls back on
(03:36):
all government spending, including stuff that fires on an economy
like construction and public builds and roading and more. And
if you want proof about this claim, government accounts in
the eleven months to the end of May for investing
and operational activities was three billion less than forecasts, three
billion less than they said they would spend, and it's
(03:57):
six point four billion less than the same eleven months
a year ago. So this is money that isn't stirring
in the pot that is the New Zealand economy. And
as the interest rates have fallen, we're not using the
cheap of cash to spend our farmers, and our businesses
and our households are choosing to pay back debt instead.
The government wants private capital to invest in this country,
(04:19):
but cash ain't cheap and the investments aren't coming in.
As I said before, why would anyone want to invest
in this country when even the government is keeping its
wallets shut. So welcome to year three of recession with
no change in sight unless the policies of the Reserve
Bank and the government start working in tandem.
Speaker 2 (04:39):
But we were having green shoots. What's happened to the
green shoots? Everybody was talking about green shoots the other day.
You're got to be careful with green shoots, aren't you
too hot? Too rainy, too cold? Well, you know your
green shoots have disappeared. Got into gardening, and I think, well,
we're talking about the economy. I don't really understand the economy.
(05:02):
And this may be obvious to regular listeners of this show,
us talk silly. Another thing I don't really understand is
this whole looking back at the anniversary of the Rainbow Warrior.
Are we going to just keep doing this every time?
It's sort of hits a round number or something.
Speaker 6 (05:21):
It's funny now that we respond and think of the
French with French with such kindness, because for twenty thirty
years there there's absolute fury amongst people. And ultimately, not
short after they stopped the testing, which was not before time,
although I left a remarkably sad legacy on some of
those islands where they're tested with contamination and leakage and
(05:44):
concrete seals over bomb sites that aren't quite working. So yeah,
certainly I don't think anyone would be these days would
be opposed to Green pieces campaign to get out there
and stop them. I think no one in New Zealand,
one of the people testing in the South Pacific. And
it's funny that it was all about nukes because forty
years on, the great concern now is that all sorts
(06:07):
of country are now on the cusp of getting nuclear
warheads because the world's becoming more and more complicated.
Speaker 2 (06:16):
That's disturbing that Marcus seems to have fallen into the
trap of making nuclear three syllable words like a lot
of Americans do. I can't even bring myself to say
it the way that he just said it. But if
the Radio Awards judges are listening, Marcus should not be
allowed to win our best talkback host, non breakfast or
(06:39):
drive next year based on that, you can't be mispronouncing
the word nuclear like that unforgivable. Let's see if Ryan
Bridge can do any better.
Speaker 4 (06:49):
Since Roshima and Nagasaki, have we had another World War?
The answer is no. We've had decades, of course of
Cold War between Russia and the West. We've had plenty
of conflicts Africa, Eastern Europe, the Middle East, but nothing's
escalated quite in the way it did in World Wars
one and two. And I think to ask yourself, why
(07:10):
did we collectively realize the bloody cost of far away
battles and drawing our friends into conflict. Did we wake
up after the second round and think, oh, World Wars
aren't that great? Or did we witness the power of
atomic weapons in Japan and scare ourselves silly. The theory
of nuclear deterrence basically says that, yes, nukes are evil inventions,
(07:36):
but their existence deters your enemies from attacking you for
fear that you'll hit back with a nuke mutually assured destruction.
It's like school yard bullies. You don't pick on a
guy who's got a bunch of older brothers who could
come and beat you up. The threat of getting totally
annihilated deters you from picking on somebody with nuclear weapons
(07:57):
or messing with their friends. So, yes, nukes are bad,
but does anybody think without them we'd have gone eighty
years without enough the major World war?
Speaker 2 (08:11):
Interesting philosophical question there, and also quite a relief that
Ryan this says nuclear properly.
Speaker 1 (08:23):
Pure news talk.
Speaker 2 (08:25):
Has it been anyway? I don't know that the Rainbow
Warrior or Greenpeace were single handedly responsible for ending nuclear
dis hitting in the Pacific might have helped.
Speaker 4 (08:38):
Either way.
Speaker 2 (08:39):
This person witnessed the bombing apparently, see.
Speaker 4 (08:44):
Now Ross, I understand you witnessed the bombing.
Speaker 7 (08:48):
Yeah, hi, man, Yeah I did. Actually, I was on
the spot and I was a fellow Hawaki man at
the time. I'd taken my flap made into town. He
was back in those days. There was a shell petrol
station down on the on the key at the far end,
at Parnell End, and he was changing to the shift
(09:09):
and I had a bit of time to kill so
I dropped him off and went for a walk along
the harbor. And my initial thought was one of the
cranes had fallen down. You know, I have the huge cranes,
heard some almighty boom and turned around and there was
water going everywhere and a boat, you know, bobbing up
and down and starting to wallow and sink. And I thought, well,
(09:30):
that's not right. So, you know, being in radio and
thinking that way, I went and grabbed they on the
live cross gear and did some live obs from the spot.
Speaker 2 (09:43):
Wow.
Speaker 1 (09:44):
Have you still got the recordings of those?
Speaker 7 (09:46):
No. I gave them to the newsroom and I said,
specifically to Mike Vincent at the time, keep those. I
want a copy of those for my skype tape. And
he didn't. They got lost in the next People.
Speaker 6 (09:59):
Were so much so bad at keeping tapes back then,
I guess because they had to be on tape.
Speaker 4 (10:04):
So people always courting over things and stuff. That's an
absolute tragedy.
Speaker 2 (10:08):
Yeah, I mean nothing else. At least we've got the
cloud now. Just put stuff in the clouds and it
will be there forever well until the red Bot apocolypse. Obviously,
that's a double little excited. That's just the use of
space to space and not believe it all. I used
(10:28):
to have a whole lot of hate and things reel
the reels recordings that I made the mistake of scoring
them in the main cave. It's not really dry in there,
and they all went moldy and dissolved. Oh well, yeah,
I look back, keep looking forward. Let's look forward to Monday.
(10:51):
We'll be back with a weekend edition of news Talks.
We've been see you then us Talk Talk It been.
Speaker 1 (10:59):
For more from news Talk said be listen live on
air or online, and keep our shows with you wherever
you go with our podcasts on iHeartRadio
You're listening to a podcast from News Talk sed B.
Follow this and our wide range of podcasts now on
iHeartRadio Used Talk Said Talk.
Speaker 2 (00:24):
Hello, my beautiful beanies, and welcome to the bean for Friday.
First with yesterday's news, I am len Hart, and we're
looking back at Thursday, which was the day after OCA Day.
So exciting. There's some kind of Rainbow Warrior anniversary hitning,
(00:45):
you know, what's why we're still anyway. We'll get into that,
but before any of that, the mind that's been put
on ice while they move some lizards sounds silly, But
is it silly?
Speaker 3 (01:03):
You're lizards or jobs? Do you want a company that's
going to get some export earnings in to help us
get back on track or do you're not We're not
talking about taking a thundering great excavator and churning up
the ground and leaving it a sad and sorry, toxic mess.
(01:24):
Modern day mining is vastly different to what it used
to be. The lizards all carefully, I mean, it's not
even as if McCrae says, bug of the lizards, you know,
they said, we will lovingly pick them up and transport
them somewhere where they can live in lizard like they
used to. But docsy, no, no, we're no, that's not
(01:48):
the plan. We like, we can come on.
Speaker 1 (01:53):
You know.
Speaker 3 (01:53):
One when you get in an attitude like this from Doc,
then it hardens other people's attitudes. People might have said, yeah,
love a lizard, you know, good on them. If they
can move them, that'd be great. But when you've got
Doc saying no, that plans no, not good enough, and
they stall and they ensure that companies have to pay
(02:14):
more and more and that people don't get to sign
on to work, and the mccrays go, you know what
stuff it or not McCrae's, but Oceana decide, you know
what's stuff it's They do the sums, they do the
number crunching, and there it's not worth our while to
be here, and they leave. I don't think in this
case that it is the best thing for the New
(02:36):
Zealand that the lizards win.
Speaker 2 (02:38):
Yeah, it's a slippery slope when we turn our back
on biodiversity. It seems ironic to me that this has
come up in the same week that everybody's talking about
bringing the moa back. I mean, have we not agreed
that a species going extinct. Probably isn't the best thing
(02:58):
for the environment, and we should make an effort.
Speaker 4 (03:03):
News talk Z been right.
Speaker 2 (03:06):
I bet you were absolutely riveted by that big OCR announcement,
which is that nothing was changing. Ah exciting stuff.
Speaker 5 (03:15):
An economy that has some very flat spots in between
primary produce and tourism. But the Reserve banks perview is
inflation and low interest rates fires on consumerism fires on inflation.
So they haven't lowered the rate. It's fair to say
the RB will not do what the government would like
it to do. But meanwhile the government pulls back on
(03:36):
all government spending, including stuff that fires on an economy
like construction and public builds and roading and more. And
if you want proof about this claim, government accounts in
the eleven months to the end of May for investing
and operational activities was three billion less than forecasts, three
billion less than they said they would spend, and it's
(03:57):
six point four billion less than the same eleven months
a year ago. So this is money that isn't stirring
in the pot that is the New Zealand economy. And
as the interest rates have fallen, we're not using the
cheap of cash to spend our farmers, and our businesses
and our households are choosing to pay back debt instead.
The government wants private capital to invest in this country,
(04:19):
but cash ain't cheap and the investments aren't coming in.
As I said before, why would anyone want to invest
in this country when even the government is keeping its
wallets shut. So welcome to year three of recession with
no change in sight unless the policies of the Reserve
Bank and the government start working in tandem.
Speaker 2 (04:39):
But we were having green shoots. What's happened to the
green shoots? Everybody was talking about green shoots the other day.
You're got to be careful with green shoots, aren't you
too hot? Too rainy, too cold? Well, you know your
green shoots have disappeared. Got into gardening, and I think, well,
we're talking about the economy. I don't really understand the economy.
(05:02):
And this may be obvious to regular listeners of this show,
us talk silly. Another thing I don't really understand is
this whole looking back at the anniversary of the Rainbow Warrior.
Are we going to just keep doing this every time?
It's sort of hits a round number or something.
Speaker 6 (05:21):
It's funny now that we respond and think of the
French with French with such kindness, because for twenty thirty
years there there's absolute fury amongst people. And ultimately, not
short after they stopped the testing, which was not before time,
although I left a remarkably sad legacy on some of
those islands where they're tested with contamination and leakage and
(05:44):
concrete seals over bomb sites that aren't quite working. So yeah,
certainly I don't think anyone would be these days would
be opposed to Green pieces campaign to get out there
and stop them. I think no one in New Zealand,
one of the people testing in the South Pacific. And
it's funny that it was all about nukes because forty
years on, the great concern now is that all sorts
(06:07):
of country are now on the cusp of getting nuclear
warheads because the world's becoming more and more complicated.
Speaker 2 (06:16):
That's disturbing that Marcus seems to have fallen into the
trap of making nuclear three syllable words like a lot
of Americans do. I can't even bring myself to say
it the way that he just said it. But if
the Radio Awards judges are listening, Marcus should not be
allowed to win our best talkback host, non breakfast or
(06:39):
drive next year based on that, you can't be mispronouncing
the word nuclear like that unforgivable. Let's see if Ryan
Bridge can do any better.
Speaker 4 (06:49):
Since Roshima and Nagasaki, have we had another World War?
The answer is no. We've had decades, of course of
Cold War between Russia and the West. We've had plenty
of conflicts Africa, Eastern Europe, the Middle East, but nothing's
escalated quite in the way it did in World Wars
one and two. And I think to ask yourself, why
(07:10):
did we collectively realize the bloody cost of far away
battles and drawing our friends into conflict. Did we wake
up after the second round and think, oh, World Wars
aren't that great? Or did we witness the power of
atomic weapons in Japan and scare ourselves silly. The theory
of nuclear deterrence basically says that, yes, nukes are evil inventions,
(07:36):
but their existence deters your enemies from attacking you for
fear that you'll hit back with a nuke mutually assured destruction.
It's like school yard bullies. You don't pick on a
guy who's got a bunch of older brothers who could
come and beat you up. The threat of getting totally
annihilated deters you from picking on somebody with nuclear weapons
(07:57):
or messing with their friends. So, yes, nukes are bad,
but does anybody think without them we'd have gone eighty
years without enough the major World war?
Speaker 2 (08:11):
Interesting philosophical question there, and also quite a relief that
Ryan this says nuclear properly.
Speaker 1 (08:23):
Pure news talk.
Speaker 2 (08:25):
Has it been anyway? I don't know that the Rainbow
Warrior or Greenpeace were single handedly responsible for ending nuclear
dis hitting in the Pacific might have helped.
Speaker 4 (08:38):
Either way.
Speaker 2 (08:39):
This person witnessed the bombing apparently, see.
Speaker 4 (08:44):
Now Ross, I understand you witnessed the bombing.
Speaker 7 (08:48):
Yeah, hi, man, Yeah I did. Actually, I was on
the spot and I was a fellow Hawaki man at
the time. I'd taken my flap made into town. He
was back in those days. There was a shell petrol
station down on the on the key at the far end,
at Parnell End, and he was changing to the shift
(09:09):
and I had a bit of time to kill so
I dropped him off and went for a walk along
the harbor. And my initial thought was one of the
cranes had fallen down. You know, I have the huge cranes,
heard some almighty boom and turned around and there was
water going everywhere and a boat, you know, bobbing up
and down and starting to wallow and sink. And I thought, well,
(09:30):
that's not right. So, you know, being in radio and
thinking that way, I went and grabbed they on the
live cross gear and did some live obs from the spot.
Speaker 2 (09:43):
Wow.
Speaker 1 (09:44):
Have you still got the recordings of those?
Speaker 7 (09:46):
No. I gave them to the newsroom and I said,
specifically to Mike Vincent at the time, keep those. I
want a copy of those for my skype tape. And
he didn't. They got lost in the next People.
Speaker 6 (09:59):
Were so much so bad at keeping tapes back then,
I guess because they had to be on tape.
Speaker 4 (10:04):
So people always courting over things and stuff. That's an
absolute tragedy.
Speaker 2 (10:08):
Yeah, I mean nothing else. At least we've got the
cloud now. Just put stuff in the clouds and it
will be there forever well until the red Bot apocolypse. Obviously,
that's a double little excited. That's just the use of
space to space and not believe it all. I used
(10:28):
to have a whole lot of hate and things reel
the reels recordings that I made the mistake of scoring
them in the main cave. It's not really dry in there,
and they all went moldy and dissolved. Oh well, yeah,
I look back, keep looking forward. Let's look forward to Monday.
(10:51):
We'll be back with a weekend edition of news Talks.
We've been see you then us Talk Talk It been.
Speaker 1 (10:59):
For more from news Talk said be listen live on
air or online, and keep our shows with you wherever
you go with our podcasts on iHeartRadio
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