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Speaker 1 (00:09):
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Speaker 2 (00:24):
Hello, my beautiful beanies, and welcome to the bean for Friday.
First of yesterday's news. I am Glenn Hart, and we
are looking back at Thursday. Where are we at with
emissions these days? And farmers and all that stuff as
we enjoy the field days. We're also and Morgan news
(00:44):
for farmers. Cang Aura is definitely going ahead with walcapet
from the houses what they're now calling the Southern Drift,
which I think is a cool way of describing this
migration trend from north to south and in fact our
population generally though it's almost shrinking. What can heither do
(01:10):
about it? But before any of that, Brian Wilson has
died at I think he was eighty two.
Speaker 3 (01:15):
Almost all of them will rave about one album, and
that album is pet Sounds by the Beach Boys, and
it's everyone's ultimate studio album. And I've never really totally
understood why, But that's not the point. The point is
that those that know know that that is the one
(01:37):
that's an extraordinary album. And I spent some time day
listening to that, just because I haven't really given it
a good threshing ever really, but just out of respect
and just wanted to know more, I spent some time
listening to it. Well, of course I love the sloop
John B and you gotta love that. We must have
sung that in school. But that's a song that you
altiready kick in with. That's a ripper some of the
(01:57):
other songs. I mean, yeah, it's quite an extraordinary album.
It's an album that's going to take I'm going to
spend a bit more time with, I think, to really
appreciate it. But I wouldn't mind some reminiscence about the
Beach Boys tonight if there is something well Brian Wilson
or the Beach Boys in particular, if there is something
you want to say about that, just to kick it
all off.
Speaker 4 (02:18):
I don't know.
Speaker 3 (02:20):
When how often they toured New Zealand. I think Brian
Wilson came a number of times solo and performed. Of course,
he was someone that had his struggles and I don't
know that performance was always comfortable for him, but he
was probably someone that you've seen performing.
Speaker 2 (02:38):
No, I never did. I always find it strange when
those sorts of people you know, famous for being in
a group. The sound is lots of voices. I mean,
I think they really pioneered recording many, many, many tracks
of voices they and then would that work live with
(02:59):
just one bloke? I have my doubts.
Speaker 1 (03:03):
News talk ze been right.
Speaker 2 (03:05):
Where were we at saving the planet? I think we
basically give it out that, haven't we. That's all a
bit hard. We were hassling farmers about it for a while,
but I think as we head into field days, we've
certainly forgot a bit about doing that, haven't we.
Speaker 4 (03:19):
It was a signature policy platform under the Addourn government.
We had to do it. They told us it was
a moral not to. Farmers had to pay a higher price,
and who cares if it's CO two or as methane
or whatever emissions or emissions. Labour is now open to
ditching that all together and softening its tone on farmers.
This is happening for two reasons. One, people are alive
(03:40):
to the fact that without our strong agricultural export prices,
and we're looking at this after six this morning, our
regions would feel a lot more like our main centers
right now, economically depressed and limping along like the other tetty.
Actually selling a bunch of stuff we already know how
to do well is exactly what a small trading nation
like ours should be doing. Number two the government has successfully,
(04:03):
i think, changed the narrative on emissions, basically through repetition.
Our farmers are the most efficient in the world. The
world demands meat and dairy. They like eating and drinking
our stuff. If we cut back and burn the farmers
bite the hand that feeds our regional economies. Someone else
(04:24):
steps in to make that global demand, and you guessed it,
higher emitting meat and dairy products are sold to the world. So,
for reasons of basic economics and political reality, the dial's
been shifted on farming and emissions and labors. Well, a
little late to the party, but at least acknowledging the
landscape has well and truly changed.
Speaker 2 (04:46):
Yeah, the actual landscape is certainly changing. And a rata knots,
isn't it with every flood, fire, mega storm? Oh well,
never mind Hu's talk. The actually speaking of farmers, they
must be stoked about all this wool carpet that's going
into Conga auto homes.
Speaker 5 (05:06):
Now, I'm a huge fan of a I've been harping
on about it for nearly a year now after having
wool carpet put into my place, and surely its benefits
outweigh the fact that it's slightly more expensive the nylon,
or rather it was, you know, the two to four
(05:27):
hundred dollars was before the wool carpet providers were able
to actually come up with a price for caring order.
They may well have sharpened their pencils. We won't know
because the total value of the contract is commercially sensitive
and can't be disclosed according to caring order, so we
don't know, but you'd imagine that it's at least competitive
(05:53):
with the nylon, and when you look at the whole
of life of the carpet, you may well see that
it's cheaper and the long run better value in the
long run than the nylon. The natural qualities allow wall
(06:13):
to dampen sound, absorb pollutants. They contribute to healthier indoor
environments by regulating humidity and improving air quality. So in
terms of whole of life cost, sustainability and health benefits,
it takes all the boxes. So yay for the government directive.
(06:35):
Yay for new Zealand's sheep farmers. Yay for the durability
and environmentally superior qualities of wal carpet. It's got to
be a wind for everyone, doesn't it.
Speaker 2 (06:43):
It does. Although I was listening to Mike Hosking talked
to Nikola Willis about this yesterday and he asked her
if it was a billion dollar deal, as she said no.
He asked her if it was hundreds of millions. She
said no. Then she admitted that it was tens of millions.
(07:05):
Because of course then it's not like they're going to
all the Coinga order houses replacing the carpit that's already there.
This is only for the new houses as they're built.
But you know, cool, right. A lot of talk about
the Southern Drift, as I mentioned at the top of
the podcast, that's what we're seeming to be calling it now,
which I love. It sounds like a folk band, isn't
(07:29):
it The Southern Drift? Green Heart in the Southern Drift? Anyway,
Stop getting distracted, Glenn, And it's here what Josh has
to say about it, because he indeed has drifted south
to a place called Pegasus.
Speaker 6 (07:43):
So here's a text that I want to read out
to you if you don't mind their Josh, guys just
looked at Pegasus and it's a controlled living space, rules, unregulated,
unrigister's cars, lawn lengths not for me, Craig. Is that true?
Speaker 5 (07:58):
What this is?
Speaker 7 (08:00):
Honestly, that was part of the rectruety you can't have pitballs,
you can't have But the reality of that, the reality
of that is that they don't That is what it
used to be. Apparently they don't actually enforce any of that.
So yeah, you had to have like your grass cut
to a certain lengths and.
Speaker 8 (08:15):
You can on certain days.
Speaker 2 (08:17):
That was it was a big thing with the covenants
with the previous developer was very contributional.
Speaker 7 (08:23):
And coming from Hamilton, that kind of appealed to us
because we were like, well, you know, we lived next
to a place that used to breed footballs and that
you know, couldn't walk out fictit to school, so it
kind of appeals. But yeah, the reality is that that's
that it's not true. Like I mean, it's written on paper,
but it's not enforced. So we've we've seen plenty of
of you know, places that are living outside of those covenants.
(08:45):
But it's perfinitely fine.
Speaker 2 (08:47):
As there was a place where the government was no
lawn at all, I'd be into that sort second tide
of mowing lawns. I know I should just put it
all on target to it, but I've got a very
large section and that would be extraordinarily expensive news talk.
So we've got uh population slash migration slash immigration stats
(09:13):
this week which show the trend is going the wrong way.
Apparently it won't be long before our population is going down,
not up. So why are mums not having as many kids?
Is that part of the problem. Here's a mum.
Speaker 8 (09:33):
The reason I don't think money is the problem is
a bunch of examples that are given by Professor Paul Spoonley,
who's a bit of a guru on this kind of thing.
He points to Hungary in twenty nineteen, they tried to
lift their birth rate by saying to couples that if
couples had four or more kids, they wouldn't have to
pay any income tax at all. It didn't lift the
birth rate. It didn't work. Sweden another example. Sweden is
(09:54):
ridiculous and how much help it gives parents, right, they
make it so easy for people to have kids in Sweden.
They have hugely generous childcare, they have generous maternity and
paternity leave, everything you could probably need, possibly need to
make the journey as easy for yourself as possible. Sweden's
birth rate is basically the same as ours, So that
tells you it's not the money. It is not the
(10:14):
financial help that's the difference. And actually think about it,
even in your own life. How many rich couples do
you know who have maybe one, maybe no kids? And
then how many poor couples do you know who've got
apes of sprogs? How do you explain that? I think
it's because professional women and nowadays just too busy to
have kids or to have many kids, because it is
(10:34):
hard to be a working mum. And I'm not saying
this is a complaint. I love being a mum and
I love being a mum who gets to go to
work as well. But it is full on. You don't
get a break out. You're up in the morning, cracker down,
and they got you up. They need something to eat,
Shoving food in their faces, trying to get them to
do their wee weeze, putting their clothes on, packing their
lunch off, they go to kender. You got them started
on their day. What happens Do you get a put
(10:56):
feet up after that shimozzle that's just gone on for
the last two to three hours. No, you're straight into
the office to start doing your busy thing, which is
going to work. Then, after a full day of work
and you're knackered, your home and then it's straight to
having a bath, getting the dinner into them, reading the book,
getting them to bed by the end of that, by
now twelve hours streetch shit you've just done. You're completely
(11:18):
shattered as a working mum. What do you got to do?
Speaker 3 (11:20):
Now?
Speaker 8 (11:20):
You've got to fold the washing. Now, you've got to
get as many chores done as possible so the house
doesn't look like a pig sty and maybe in there
you'll get half an hour to watch ship's creak if
you're lucky. It's not about financial poverty for mums. It's
about time poverty. And I suspect this will never change
as long as working mums are working mums.
Speaker 2 (11:39):
Did you detect and ever so subtle note of desperation?
And neither's voice there another of two I've said them before.
I say that he never ever, never, never, never ever
(12:00):
have care. Of course, if we don't, then the country
will eventually strength for nothing. How pleasefull that'll be for
the people who will live. I am clean heart, feeling
a bit random at the end of the week. I'll
see if I can get that out of my system,
and we'll see you back here again. From Marty a
(12:22):
few week on.
Speaker 4 (12:23):
Monday, News Talking, Talking Has it been.
Speaker 1 (12:28):
For more from News Talk st B. Listen live on
air or online, and keep our shows with you wherever
you go with our podcasts on iHeartRadio.
You're listening to a podcast from News Talk said B.
Follow this and our wide range of podcasts now on iHeartRadio,
Used Talk, sed B Talk.
Speaker 2 (00:24):
Hello, my beautiful beanies, and welcome to the bean for Friday.
First of yesterday's news. I am Glenn Hart, and we
are looking back at Thursday. Where are we at with
emissions these days? And farmers and all that stuff as
we enjoy the field days. We're also and Morgan news
(00:44):
for farmers. Cang Aura is definitely going ahead with walcapet
from the houses what they're now calling the Southern Drift,
which I think is a cool way of describing this
migration trend from north to south and in fact our
population generally though it's almost shrinking. What can heither do
(01:10):
about it? But before any of that, Brian Wilson has
died at I think he was eighty two.
Speaker 3 (01:15):
Almost all of them will rave about one album, and
that album is pet Sounds by the Beach Boys, and
it's everyone's ultimate studio album. And I've never really totally
understood why, But that's not the point. The point is
that those that know know that that is the one
(01:37):
that's an extraordinary album. And I spent some time day
listening to that, just because I haven't really given it
a good threshing ever really, but just out of respect
and just wanted to know more, I spent some time
listening to it. Well, of course I love the sloop
John B and you gotta love that. We must have
sung that in school. But that's a song that you
altiready kick in with. That's a ripper some of the
(01:57):
other songs. I mean, yeah, it's quite an extraordinary album.
It's an album that's going to take I'm going to
spend a bit more time with, I think, to really
appreciate it. But I wouldn't mind some reminiscence about the
Beach Boys tonight if there is something well Brian Wilson
or the Beach Boys in particular, if there is something
you want to say about that, just to kick it
all off.
Speaker 4 (02:18):
I don't know.
Speaker 3 (02:20):
When how often they toured New Zealand. I think Brian
Wilson came a number of times solo and performed. Of course,
he was someone that had his struggles and I don't
know that performance was always comfortable for him, but he
was probably someone that you've seen performing.
Speaker 2 (02:38):
No, I never did. I always find it strange when
those sorts of people you know, famous for being in
a group. The sound is lots of voices. I mean,
I think they really pioneered recording many, many, many tracks
of voices they and then would that work live with
(02:59):
just one bloke? I have my doubts.
Speaker 1 (03:03):
News talk ze been right.
Speaker 2 (03:05):
Where were we at saving the planet? I think we
basically give it out that, haven't we. That's all a
bit hard. We were hassling farmers about it for a while,
but I think as we head into field days, we've
certainly forgot a bit about doing that, haven't we.
Speaker 4 (03:19):
It was a signature policy platform under the Addourn government.
We had to do it. They told us it was
a moral not to. Farmers had to pay a higher price,
and who cares if it's CO two or as methane
or whatever emissions or emissions. Labour is now open to
ditching that all together and softening its tone on farmers.
This is happening for two reasons. One, people are alive
(03:40):
to the fact that without our strong agricultural export prices,
and we're looking at this after six this morning, our
regions would feel a lot more like our main centers
right now, economically depressed and limping along like the other tetty.
Actually selling a bunch of stuff we already know how
to do well is exactly what a small trading nation
like ours should be doing. Number two the government has successfully,
(04:03):
i think, changed the narrative on emissions, basically through repetition.
Our farmers are the most efficient in the world. The
world demands meat and dairy. They like eating and drinking
our stuff. If we cut back and burn the farmers
bite the hand that feeds our regional economies. Someone else
(04:24):
steps in to make that global demand, and you guessed it,
higher emitting meat and dairy products are sold to the world. So,
for reasons of basic economics and political reality, the dial's
been shifted on farming and emissions and labors. Well, a
little late to the party, but at least acknowledging the
landscape has well and truly changed.
Speaker 2 (04:46):
Yeah, the actual landscape is certainly changing. And a rata knots,
isn't it with every flood, fire, mega storm? Oh well,
never mind Hu's talk. The actually speaking of farmers, they
must be stoked about all this wool carpet that's going
into Conga auto homes.
Speaker 5 (05:06):
Now, I'm a huge fan of a I've been harping
on about it for nearly a year now after having
wool carpet put into my place, and surely its benefits
outweigh the fact that it's slightly more expensive the nylon,
or rather it was, you know, the two to four
(05:27):
hundred dollars was before the wool carpet providers were able
to actually come up with a price for caring order.
They may well have sharpened their pencils. We won't know
because the total value of the contract is commercially sensitive
and can't be disclosed according to caring order, so we
don't know, but you'd imagine that it's at least competitive
(05:53):
with the nylon, and when you look at the whole
of life of the carpet, you may well see that
it's cheaper and the long run better value in the
long run than the nylon. The natural qualities allow wall
(06:13):
to dampen sound, absorb pollutants. They contribute to healthier indoor
environments by regulating humidity and improving air quality. So in
terms of whole of life cost, sustainability and health benefits,
it takes all the boxes. So yay for the government directive.
(06:35):
Yay for new Zealand's sheep farmers. Yay for the durability
and environmentally superior qualities of wal carpet. It's got to
be a wind for everyone, doesn't it.
Speaker 2 (06:43):
It does. Although I was listening to Mike Hosking talked
to Nikola Willis about this yesterday and he asked her
if it was a billion dollar deal, as she said no.
He asked her if it was hundreds of millions. She
said no. Then she admitted that it was tens of millions.
(07:05):
Because of course then it's not like they're going to
all the Coinga order houses replacing the carpit that's already there.
This is only for the new houses as they're built.
But you know, cool, right. A lot of talk about
the Southern Drift, as I mentioned at the top of
the podcast, that's what we're seeming to be calling it now,
which I love. It sounds like a folk band, isn't
(07:29):
it The Southern Drift? Green Heart in the Southern Drift? Anyway,
Stop getting distracted, Glenn, And it's here what Josh has
to say about it, because he indeed has drifted south
to a place called Pegasus.
Speaker 6 (07:43):
So here's a text that I want to read out
to you if you don't mind their Josh, guys just
looked at Pegasus and it's a controlled living space, rules, unregulated,
unrigister's cars, lawn lengths not for me, Craig. Is that true?
Speaker 5 (07:58):
What this is?
Speaker 7 (08:00):
Honestly, that was part of the rectruety you can't have pitballs,
you can't have But the reality of that, the reality
of that is that they don't That is what it
used to be. Apparently they don't actually enforce any of that.
So yeah, you had to have like your grass cut
to a certain lengths and.
Speaker 8 (08:15):
You can on certain days.
Speaker 2 (08:17):
That was it was a big thing with the covenants
with the previous developer was very contributional.
Speaker 7 (08:23):
And coming from Hamilton, that kind of appealed to us
because we were like, well, you know, we lived next
to a place that used to breed footballs and that
you know, couldn't walk out fictit to school, so it
kind of appeals. But yeah, the reality is that that's
that it's not true. Like I mean, it's written on paper,
but it's not enforced. So we've we've seen plenty of
of you know, places that are living outside of those covenants.
(08:45):
But it's perfinitely fine.
Speaker 2 (08:47):
As there was a place where the government was no
lawn at all, I'd be into that sort second tide
of mowing lawns. I know I should just put it
all on target to it, but I've got a very
large section and that would be extraordinarily expensive news talk.
So we've got uh population slash migration slash immigration stats
(09:13):
this week which show the trend is going the wrong way.
Apparently it won't be long before our population is going down,
not up. So why are mums not having as many kids?
Is that part of the problem. Here's a mum.
Speaker 8 (09:33):
The reason I don't think money is the problem is
a bunch of examples that are given by Professor Paul Spoonley,
who's a bit of a guru on this kind of thing.
He points to Hungary in twenty nineteen, they tried to
lift their birth rate by saying to couples that if
couples had four or more kids, they wouldn't have to
pay any income tax at all. It didn't lift the
birth rate. It didn't work. Sweden another example. Sweden is
(09:54):
ridiculous and how much help it gives parents, right, they
make it so easy for people to have kids in Sweden.
They have hugely generous childcare, they have generous maternity and
paternity leave, everything you could probably need, possibly need to
make the journey as easy for yourself as possible. Sweden's
birth rate is basically the same as ours, So that
tells you it's not the money. It is not the
(10:14):
financial help that's the difference. And actually think about it,
even in your own life. How many rich couples do
you know who have maybe one, maybe no kids? And
then how many poor couples do you know who've got
apes of sprogs? How do you explain that? I think
it's because professional women and nowadays just too busy to
have kids or to have many kids, because it is
(10:34):
hard to be a working mum. And I'm not saying
this is a complaint. I love being a mum and
I love being a mum who gets to go to
work as well. But it is full on. You don't
get a break out. You're up in the morning, cracker down,
and they got you up. They need something to eat,
Shoving food in their faces, trying to get them to
do their wee weeze, putting their clothes on, packing their
lunch off, they go to kender. You got them started
on their day. What happens Do you get a put
(10:56):
feet up after that shimozzle that's just gone on for
the last two to three hours. No, you're straight into
the office to start doing your busy thing, which is
going to work. Then, after a full day of work
and you're knackered, your home and then it's straight to
having a bath, getting the dinner into them, reading the book,
getting them to bed by the end of that, by
now twelve hours streetch shit you've just done. You're completely
(11:18):
shattered as a working mum. What do you got to do?
Speaker 3 (11:20):
Now?
Speaker 8 (11:20):
You've got to fold the washing. Now, you've got to
get as many chores done as possible so the house
doesn't look like a pig sty and maybe in there
you'll get half an hour to watch ship's creak if
you're lucky. It's not about financial poverty for mums. It's
about time poverty. And I suspect this will never change
as long as working mums are working mums.
Speaker 2 (11:39):
Did you detect and ever so subtle note of desperation?
And neither's voice there another of two I've said them before.
I say that he never ever, never, never, never ever
(12:00):
have care. Of course, if we don't, then the country
will eventually strength for nothing. How pleasefull that'll be for
the people who will live. I am clean heart, feeling
a bit random at the end of the week. I'll
see if I can get that out of my system,
and we'll see you back here again. From Marty a
(12:22):
few week on.
Speaker 4 (12:23):
Monday, News Talking, Talking Has it been.
Speaker 1 (12:28):
For more from News Talk st B. Listen live on
air or online, and keep our shows with you wherever
you go with our podcasts on iHeartRadio.
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