March 30, 2025 • 13 mins
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Speaker 1 (00:09):
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Speaker 2 (00:21):
Said, Hello, my beautiful beanies, and welcome to the being
the weekend edition, first of yesterday's news. I am Glenn
Hart and it's not just yesterday we're looking at a
ha haha. The weekly edition gets you a Saturday in
there as well. Yeah, baby, we're going to be talking
super Rugby because an interesting thing happened over the weekend.
With that, the TV program Adolescence has got lots of
(00:45):
people talking, including Jack Kane. Rebecca Gibney pops by to
talk about her new show, which sounds like an old
show to me, and then the lead singer.
Speaker 3 (00:55):
Of Toto comes in as well. Before any of that
is willis ever actually going to be able to.
Speaker 2 (01:02):
Do anything about increasing competition between supermarkets given that we
have the stewoppoly in New Zealand.
Speaker 3 (01:09):
You're putting a line in the water.
Speaker 4 (01:11):
Are any big fish going to bite?
Speaker 5 (01:14):
Well?
Speaker 6 (01:14):
I hope so. And this is our intention to say
what do we need to do to give you a
leg up so that you come here? But I'm also
aware that they might not and if that's the case,
we're going to have to take further action. So I'm
at the same time as putting out this request for information,
I'm seeking advice from experts on what might be needed
(01:36):
to restructure the industry so that it becomes more competitive.
So we've got two coals in the fire at the
same time, because I'm determined that we have to make
more progress here. The simple factors the reforms that the
last government made in the grocery sector, the Grocery Commissioner says,
actually haven't had an impact on competition, and that's not
(01:58):
good enough because it means kiwis are continuing to pay
too much, and so we need to take more action.
Speaker 1 (02:03):
Certainly, A but pessimistic about getting some big players to
put some information.
Speaker 3 (02:07):
And are you pessimistic about it?
Speaker 6 (02:10):
Well, I am just realistic that it's not enough for
me to fit back wait for ald or Coals to
turn up. So what I'm doing is really dangling out
the bait and saying, come on, what would it take.
And in the conversations I've had over the past few weeks,
what a lot of people say to me is, look,
the market is so non competitive at the moment that
(02:33):
anyone wanting to come into New Zealand might just say, WHOA,
that's too hard. Because the big guys have so much
market power, they control the supplier relationships, they could squeeze
out a new in front.
Speaker 2 (02:45):
I don't know how I feel about Coals coming here.
My overarching impression of Coals anytime I've been to Australia
and chopped at one is that their trolleys.
Speaker 7 (02:55):
Are really weird.
Speaker 3 (02:57):
Weird trolleys, very poorly.
Speaker 2 (03:00):
Maintain trolleys and wheels that go off independently in different directions.
Speaker 3 (03:07):
I know about that. I might be prepared to pay
a bit more for a decent prolly. News talk Z
been right a bit of a boilover over the weekend with.
Speaker 2 (03:18):
Milana pacifica absolutely trownsing the Crusaders not just like they
just streaked home, They really talk to the town. Well,
Mike Hosking weight be very happy about that.
Speaker 1 (03:32):
How special a win is this for you and for
your team?
Speaker 5 (03:37):
Oh? Very special. I suppose anyone's a special win. But
when you come down here and you know, to christ
Church and you play against a team that's obviously formidable
at home, and you know they're one of the form teams. Yeah,
you know, it is very special to do that. So
(03:59):
you know, we're proud of the group, and also you
know the ones that came down here, but also the
ones at home, you know that help us prepare for
you know, was our best performance of the year.
Speaker 4 (04:10):
Was this the eighty minute performance you've been looking for
for sure?
Speaker 8 (04:16):
You know, you know we've been good at patches as
we've seen, and you know it was probably you know,
we don't want to get too far in front of
ourselves here, Jason, but you know, there's obviously still things
to work on. But no, you know, this is probably
again probably our best performance since I've been here. And
(04:40):
we know we've we've got more on us, and we
don't we know we have to have more on us
because we can't just rely on this one game. But
you know, we enjoyed our performance and our win last
night and now we're already you know, as you do
in this competition, you can't you can't keep thinking about
what's in the past. You've got to move forward, and
you know we need to do that now.
Speaker 2 (05:00):
Yeah, that's some talent amonger there. I remember when he
was an all black all black and they would do
any kind of postmatch interview, any kind of interview with
him at all. Actually, it wasn't like the brightest I'm
talking about in term's tone. I'm sure he's very bright
in terms of intelligence. I'm just saying it wasn't exactly
(05:23):
a laugh.
Speaker 3 (05:24):
A minute quotable quote. You know, here comes mister interview
kind of a guy. Has he improved a bit there?
Maybe a bit?
Speaker 2 (05:35):
Am I sonding a bit glowsy because the Crusaders didn't win,
which means that the Chiefs are still ahead of them
on the table maybe.
Speaker 3 (05:41):
And we've got the Reds this weekend to a head.
Speaker 2 (05:44):
Somehow they got ahead of us on the table. It
didn't help it to protect me if you playing the weekend,
of course. So we'll sort that out and then we'll
be back on top.
Speaker 3 (05:51):
It'd be great us talk, sib.
Speaker 2 (05:53):
Right, let's talk TV now, and perhaps the most talked
about TV show at the moment is this Adolescence One.
It's a Netflix joint. Tell you what, people certainly are
talking about.
Speaker 3 (06:08):
It at it. I think some people might be even
have watched it. I think one of those people might
be Jack.
Speaker 4 (06:13):
Paying the performances and adolescents, especially Steven Graham. I just thought,
we're astonishing. I immediately became that person annoyingly texting all
of his friends and family and group chats and asking
who'd seen it. And it's funny because you know, we
think of movies as being art, you know, film cinema.
(06:37):
It's kind of high art, right, and well it can be.
I just think we probably don't think of TV as
being art in quite the same way, or at least
as often as we do with films. But how do
you define good art? Surely it's a creative work that
makes people feel, that affects them, that sticks with them,
(06:58):
that has them tossing and turning in bed at three
point thirty two am on a Wednesday morning, replaying scenes
in their head. It has been a long long time
since a TV show affected me like Adolescents as a story,
it was devastating. As a TV drama, it was close
(07:21):
to perfect.
Speaker 3 (07:22):
So now you have to decide whether you agree or disagree.
Speaker 2 (07:25):
With Jack Thame's views on TV and movies and stuff
like that, as to whether you're going to go up
and watch Adolescence based on it on his it's almost
perfect review there, I'm keen to watch it a domestic
manager is not so keen on anything that's too harrowing.
(07:48):
My big boss, Jason came in here the other day
talking about example, all Dark, why'd you eat? Do you
like to live a sheltered life with TV? He's been
very shocked by some of the stuff that's.
Speaker 3 (07:59):
Been going on on the White Lotus. And I can't
even remind him it's only a program. It's only a
TV show.
Speaker 2 (08:05):
It's not real. But I think that's the problem when
you watch too many documentaries. You watch too many documentaries.
Sometimes you watch the made up stuff and you think
that it's a bit real, and it isn't. And that's
the kind of TV I like, is the not real stuff.
Rebecca Gibney is in a new show that isn't real.
It's called Happiness. So we've got adolescents and we've got
(08:26):
Happiness in the podcast today.
Speaker 3 (08:31):
I don't know why I find that amusing.
Speaker 2 (08:32):
But it's about an amateur dramatic society.
Speaker 3 (08:36):
Is that what it's about? Hang on, haven't we had
programs about those before?
Speaker 4 (08:40):
I heard that you campaigned hard to be in this show,
that you messaged the creators and auditions. I did.
Speaker 9 (08:46):
I did, Actually I was we were filming under the
Vines in Queenstown and everyone was auditioning for this show,
and I'm like, what is everyone? What is the show?
And there was just this buzz and it was a
show called Happiness and I have to be a part
of that, anything that's called happiness, particularly the way the
world is at the moment. And I said, you know,
can I can? I talk to them and they went, oh, well,
you know, can she sing? And I'm like, wait a second.
(09:09):
And I had to go back through all my stuff
and I found this little tape that I did of
a song called Fever that I sang years ago, and
I went, okay, I want if I can recreate that.
So literally, in the living room of the place that
I was renting in Clyde, I put on a boombox
instrumental to Fever and I sang along to it into
(09:30):
my phone and I sent them that and said, see,
I can hold a chune. I'm not the world's best singer.
And then they came back and went, right, can she dance?
I'm not sending you a dancing.
Speaker 7 (09:42):
But I did.
Speaker 9 (09:42):
I think the character was so specific and not that
they asked for an audition, but I didn't hear for
a few days, and I went, you know what, I'm
just gonna I'm just going to do the audition and
send it in. And so I did and sent in
and I dressed up for it and everything, and I
just went umborn to play this character. There is no
one that can play this character the way I can,
because I've actually been working on a character similar to
Gay Summers for a very long time and I hadn't
(10:06):
been able to get her on anything. So when I
read her, I went, Okay, I'm bringing my own character
to this, and that's case I'm this.
Speaker 3 (10:15):
So, yeah, that might be funny. You'd better go.
Speaker 2 (10:19):
There have been, Like I said, there have been other
shows on this premise, this one called m.
Speaker 3 (10:23):
Dram out of the UK. In fact, there's another one
out of the UK called The Players. I swear there
was another New Zealand one.
Speaker 2 (10:41):
I can't immediately find it, but I never watched it.
Speaker 1 (10:46):
I just.
Speaker 3 (10:49):
Yeah, I just remember anyway, move only, move on? Did
it go thet it go? Okay?
Speaker 1 (10:55):
News Talk Zip.
Speaker 2 (10:56):
Bean ow Toto touring. Yes, that's right. The band that
Direx Project.
Speaker 3 (11:06):
Things about is that. Surely that's not why they're still
so popular is it?
Speaker 4 (11:11):
How do you distinguish the success that Toto still enjoys
all these years since you first formed. Why is Toto
still so popular?
Speaker 7 (11:21):
Do you think? Well, I think it's a great deal
of it has to do with these the songs, the
big hit songs. I mean, Africa alone, just as a
as a song has given us life, you know, beyond
perhaps may have been you know, who knows, But you know,
(11:42):
I think that some of these songs are timeless and
as people go back searching through you know, music from
the eighties, seventies and eighties and nineties, they latch onto
things that still hold up, you know. I think that's
part of it. Yeah. The other the other part, I
think it's just it's just that the band's never really
stopped touring over all of these years. And so, you know,
(12:07):
who knows.
Speaker 4 (12:08):
You say that Africa has given you life? What do
you mean by that?
Speaker 3 (12:12):
Yeah, Well, if you just you.
Speaker 7 (12:15):
Know, younger and younger people are finding it and and
I suppose a few of the different artists who have
re recorded it or used pieces of it or something,
or it's shown up in a particular TV series or
a movie something like that, and and then it still
(12:38):
holds up after all the all of these years, and
so as people find it, it breathes new life into
the into the band.
Speaker 3 (12:45):
Do we sort of hit those sorts of bands anymore?
Because it was it was definitely a specific time and music.
Speaker 2 (12:52):
Wasn't it Your Toto, your Chicago, your Boston, the battle
of Chicago versus Boston.
Speaker 3 (13:03):
Two bands with big horn section, this battling against each other.
You fit Amarra Gronto. That not really so I supposed,
but that's a different point. But yeah, there was a
certain type of.
Speaker 2 (13:19):
A band, too big, too big a band, too big
a band to be economically viable. And yet here's Toto
after all these years, maybe thanks to draft projject.
Speaker 3 (13:30):
Maybe not why I always want to spell.
Speaker 2 (13:34):
Drafts project with two exes for for some reason. Anyway,
that has been a bit of a random weekend.
Speaker 3 (13:42):
Edition of news Talks. We've been to be perfectly on us.
Speaker 2 (13:44):
I'll try and get a little bit more focused tomorrow
and I'll probably fail, but I'll see.
Speaker 1 (13:48):
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Speaker 2 (00:21):
Said, Hello, my beautiful beanies, and welcome to the being
the weekend edition, first of yesterday's news. I am Glenn
Hart and it's not just yesterday we're looking at a
ha haha. The weekly edition gets you a Saturday in
there as well. Yeah, baby, we're going to be talking
super Rugby because an interesting thing happened over the weekend.
With that, the TV program Adolescence has got lots of
(00:45):
people talking, including Jack Kane. Rebecca Gibney pops by to
talk about her new show, which sounds like an old
show to me, and then the lead singer.
Speaker 3 (00:55):
Of Toto comes in as well. Before any of that
is willis ever actually going to be able to.
Speaker 2 (01:02):
Do anything about increasing competition between supermarkets given that we
have the stewoppoly in New Zealand.
Speaker 3 (01:09):
You're putting a line in the water.
Speaker 4 (01:11):
Are any big fish going to bite?
Speaker 5 (01:14):
Well?
Speaker 6 (01:14):
I hope so. And this is our intention to say
what do we need to do to give you a
leg up so that you come here? But I'm also
aware that they might not and if that's the case,
we're going to have to take further action. So I'm
at the same time as putting out this request for information,
I'm seeking advice from experts on what might be needed
(01:36):
to restructure the industry so that it becomes more competitive.
So we've got two coals in the fire at the
same time, because I'm determined that we have to make
more progress here. The simple factors the reforms that the
last government made in the grocery sector, the Grocery Commissioner says,
actually haven't had an impact on competition, and that's not
(01:58):
good enough because it means kiwis are continuing to pay
too much, and so we need to take more action.
Speaker 1 (02:03):
Certainly, A but pessimistic about getting some big players to
put some information.
Speaker 3 (02:07):
And are you pessimistic about it?
Speaker 6 (02:10):
Well, I am just realistic that it's not enough for
me to fit back wait for ald or Coals to
turn up. So what I'm doing is really dangling out
the bait and saying, come on, what would it take.
And in the conversations I've had over the past few weeks,
what a lot of people say to me is, look,
the market is so non competitive at the moment that
(02:33):
anyone wanting to come into New Zealand might just say, WHOA,
that's too hard. Because the big guys have so much
market power, they control the supplier relationships, they could squeeze
out a new in front.
Speaker 2 (02:45):
I don't know how I feel about Coals coming here.
My overarching impression of Coals anytime I've been to Australia
and chopped at one is that their trolleys.
Speaker 7 (02:55):
Are really weird.
Speaker 3 (02:57):
Weird trolleys, very poorly.
Speaker 2 (03:00):
Maintain trolleys and wheels that go off independently in different directions.
Speaker 3 (03:07):
I know about that. I might be prepared to pay
a bit more for a decent prolly. News talk Z
been right a bit of a boilover over the weekend with.
Speaker 2 (03:18):
Milana pacifica absolutely trownsing the Crusaders not just like they
just streaked home, They really talk to the town. Well,
Mike Hosking weight be very happy about that.
Speaker 1 (03:32):
How special a win is this for you and for
your team?
Speaker 5 (03:37):
Oh? Very special. I suppose anyone's a special win. But
when you come down here and you know, to christ
Church and you play against a team that's obviously formidable
at home, and you know they're one of the form teams. Yeah,
you know, it is very special to do that. So
(03:59):
you know, we're proud of the group, and also you
know the ones that came down here, but also the
ones at home, you know that help us prepare for
you know, was our best performance of the year.
Speaker 4 (04:10):
Was this the eighty minute performance you've been looking for
for sure?
Speaker 8 (04:16):
You know, you know we've been good at patches as
we've seen, and you know it was probably you know,
we don't want to get too far in front of
ourselves here, Jason, but you know, there's obviously still things
to work on. But no, you know, this is probably
again probably our best performance since I've been here. And
(04:40):
we know we've we've got more on us, and we
don't we know we have to have more on us
because we can't just rely on this one game. But
you know, we enjoyed our performance and our win last
night and now we're already you know, as you do
in this competition, you can't you can't keep thinking about
what's in the past. You've got to move forward, and
you know we need to do that now.
Speaker 2 (05:00):
Yeah, that's some talent amonger there. I remember when he
was an all black all black and they would do
any kind of postmatch interview, any kind of interview with
him at all. Actually, it wasn't like the brightest I'm
talking about in term's tone. I'm sure he's very bright
in terms of intelligence. I'm just saying it wasn't exactly
(05:23):
a laugh.
Speaker 3 (05:24):
A minute quotable quote. You know, here comes mister interview
kind of a guy. Has he improved a bit there?
Maybe a bit?
Speaker 2 (05:35):
Am I sonding a bit glowsy because the Crusaders didn't win,
which means that the Chiefs are still ahead of them
on the table maybe.
Speaker 3 (05:41):
And we've got the Reds this weekend to a head.
Speaker 2 (05:44):
Somehow they got ahead of us on the table. It
didn't help it to protect me if you playing the weekend,
of course. So we'll sort that out and then we'll
be back on top.
Speaker 3 (05:51):
It'd be great us talk, sib.
Speaker 2 (05:53):
Right, let's talk TV now, and perhaps the most talked
about TV show at the moment is this Adolescence One.
It's a Netflix joint. Tell you what, people certainly are
talking about.
Speaker 3 (06:08):
It at it. I think some people might be even
have watched it. I think one of those people might
be Jack.
Speaker 4 (06:13):
Paying the performances and adolescents, especially Steven Graham. I just thought,
we're astonishing. I immediately became that person annoyingly texting all
of his friends and family and group chats and asking
who'd seen it. And it's funny because you know, we
think of movies as being art, you know, film cinema.
(06:37):
It's kind of high art, right, and well it can be.
I just think we probably don't think of TV as
being art in quite the same way, or at least
as often as we do with films. But how do
you define good art? Surely it's a creative work that
makes people feel, that affects them, that sticks with them,
(06:58):
that has them tossing and turning in bed at three
point thirty two am on a Wednesday morning, replaying scenes
in their head. It has been a long long time
since a TV show affected me like Adolescents as a story,
it was devastating. As a TV drama, it was close
(07:21):
to perfect.
Speaker 3 (07:22):
So now you have to decide whether you agree or disagree.
Speaker 2 (07:25):
With Jack Thame's views on TV and movies and stuff
like that, as to whether you're going to go up
and watch Adolescence based on it on his it's almost
perfect review there, I'm keen to watch it a domestic
manager is not so keen on anything that's too harrowing.
(07:48):
My big boss, Jason came in here the other day
talking about example, all Dark, why'd you eat? Do you
like to live a sheltered life with TV? He's been
very shocked by some of the stuff that's.
Speaker 3 (07:59):
Been going on on the White Lotus. And I can't
even remind him it's only a program. It's only a
TV show.
Speaker 2 (08:05):
It's not real. But I think that's the problem when
you watch too many documentaries. You watch too many documentaries.
Sometimes you watch the made up stuff and you think
that it's a bit real, and it isn't. And that's
the kind of TV I like, is the not real stuff.
Rebecca Gibney is in a new show that isn't real.
It's called Happiness. So we've got adolescents and we've got
(08:26):
Happiness in the podcast today.
Speaker 3 (08:31):
I don't know why I find that amusing.
Speaker 2 (08:32):
But it's about an amateur dramatic society.
Speaker 3 (08:36):
Is that what it's about? Hang on, haven't we had
programs about those before?
Speaker 4 (08:40):
I heard that you campaigned hard to be in this show,
that you messaged the creators and auditions. I did.
Speaker 9 (08:46):
I did, Actually I was we were filming under the
Vines in Queenstown and everyone was auditioning for this show,
and I'm like, what is everyone? What is the show?
And there was just this buzz and it was a
show called Happiness and I have to be a part
of that, anything that's called happiness, particularly the way the
world is at the moment. And I said, you know,
can I can? I talk to them and they went, oh, well,
you know, can she sing? And I'm like, wait a second.
(09:09):
And I had to go back through all my stuff
and I found this little tape that I did of
a song called Fever that I sang years ago, and
I went, okay, I want if I can recreate that.
So literally, in the living room of the place that
I was renting in Clyde, I put on a boombox
instrumental to Fever and I sang along to it into
(09:30):
my phone and I sent them that and said, see,
I can hold a chune. I'm not the world's best singer.
And then they came back and went, right, can she dance?
I'm not sending you a dancing.
Speaker 7 (09:42):
But I did.
Speaker 9 (09:42):
I think the character was so specific and not that
they asked for an audition, but I didn't hear for
a few days, and I went, you know what, I'm
just gonna I'm just going to do the audition and
send it in. And so I did and sent in
and I dressed up for it and everything, and I
just went umborn to play this character. There is no
one that can play this character the way I can,
because I've actually been working on a character similar to
Gay Summers for a very long time and I hadn't
(10:06):
been able to get her on anything. So when I
read her, I went, Okay, I'm bringing my own character
to this, and that's case I'm this.
Speaker 3 (10:15):
So, yeah, that might be funny. You'd better go.
Speaker 2 (10:19):
There have been, Like I said, there have been other
shows on this premise, this one called m.
Speaker 3 (10:23):
Dram out of the UK. In fact, there's another one
out of the UK called The Players. I swear there
was another New Zealand one.
Speaker 2 (10:41):
I can't immediately find it, but I never watched it.
Speaker 1 (10:46):
I just.
Speaker 3 (10:49):
Yeah, I just remember anyway, move only, move on? Did
it go thet it go? Okay?
Speaker 1 (10:55):
News Talk Zip.
Speaker 2 (10:56):
Bean ow Toto touring. Yes, that's right. The band that
Direx Project.
Speaker 3 (11:06):
Things about is that. Surely that's not why they're still
so popular is it?
Speaker 4 (11:11):
How do you distinguish the success that Toto still enjoys
all these years since you first formed. Why is Toto
still so popular?
Speaker 7 (11:21):
Do you think? Well, I think it's a great deal
of it has to do with these the songs, the
big hit songs. I mean, Africa alone, just as a
as a song has given us life, you know, beyond
perhaps may have been you know, who knows, But you know,
(11:42):
I think that some of these songs are timeless and
as people go back searching through you know, music from
the eighties, seventies and eighties and nineties, they latch onto
things that still hold up, you know. I think that's
part of it. Yeah. The other the other part, I
think it's just it's just that the band's never really
stopped touring over all of these years. And so, you know,
(12:07):
who knows.
Speaker 4 (12:08):
You say that Africa has given you life? What do
you mean by that?
Speaker 3 (12:12):
Yeah, Well, if you just you.
Speaker 7 (12:15):
Know, younger and younger people are finding it and and
I suppose a few of the different artists who have
re recorded it or used pieces of it or something,
or it's shown up in a particular TV series or
a movie something like that, and and then it still
(12:38):
holds up after all the all of these years, and
so as people find it, it breathes new life into
the into the band.
Speaker 3 (12:45):
Do we sort of hit those sorts of bands anymore?
Because it was it was definitely a specific time and music.
Speaker 2 (12:52):
Wasn't it Your Toto, your Chicago, your Boston, the battle
of Chicago versus Boston.
Speaker 3 (13:03):
Two bands with big horn section, this battling against each other.
You fit Amarra Gronto. That not really so I supposed,
but that's a different point. But yeah, there was a
certain type of.
Speaker 2 (13:19):
A band, too big, too big a band, too big
a band to be economically viable. And yet here's Toto
after all these years, maybe thanks to draft projject.
Speaker 3 (13:30):
Maybe not why I always want to spell.
Speaker 2 (13:34):
Drafts project with two exes for for some reason. Anyway,
that has been a bit of a random weekend.
Speaker 3 (13:42):
Edition of news Talks. We've been to be perfectly on us.
Speaker 2 (13:44):
I'll try and get a little bit more focused tomorrow
and I'll probably fail, but I'll see.
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