July 1, 2025 • 11 mins
FIRST WITH YESTERDAY'S NEWS (highlights from Tuesday on Newstalk ZB) Why We Can't Have Nice Things/Jabbed Back to Fitness/How We Shop Now/Robot Apocalypse Update/Rules of Talkback
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Speaker 1 (00:09):
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Speaker 2 (00:23):
My beautiful beanies, and welcome to the bean for Wednesday.
First of yesterday's news, I am Glenn Hart, and we
are looking back at Tuesday, which was when we're go
be hit the shelves. There's a drug that you can
only get on prescriptions. Hit the shelves first, pose it's
on somebody's shelves somewhere. Supermarket shopping habits changing AI. How's
(00:49):
the robot apocalypse coming along? And what are Marcus's rules
for talkback? You didn't know there were rules, did you? But?
First up, who cares if we privatize the theories? As
long as there's a theory, right, Better to have a
private theory than no theory.
Speaker 3 (01:03):
I would have thought, why is it so hard? Two
heabsh ships that are seaworthy, captains who can steer them,
people who can maintain them. And either we know every
year how much it's going to cost us to keep
State Highway one open, which we have to do.
Speaker 4 (01:24):
Or.
Speaker 3 (01:25):
We allow private operators to run it and make small
profit from it. I you know, looking from the outside,
I wouldn't have thought it was possible. Bluebridge has been
able to do so as their room for another private operator. Well,
there are expressions of interest, clearly people think so, But
why has it been so troubled? It seems a relatively
(01:47):
simple organization. It's a bit like the lovely CEO from
Caring Order who said, really an effect, the job is
quite simple. We build houses for people and we rent
them out. He said. It only got difficult when the
previous administration wanted to make it a more social enterprise
and bring in mixed model housing communities. And I, you know,
(02:11):
I get that that's a lovely idea. But if you
drill down to what the job is, it's actually quite simple.
So why have we struggled for decades to run a
cook straight ferry crossing?
Speaker 4 (02:27):
It?
Speaker 3 (02:28):
Really, from the outside doesn't seem that difficult.
Speaker 2 (02:32):
I think it falls firmly and the why can't we
have nice things category, which seems to be there's a
general theme of that going on these days, isn't there
you know, all your counsel infrastructures breaking down. Some roads
get built, some don't. Rail doesn't really seem to be
working as a thing, and we theories don't seem to
(02:56):
be a going concern as such, And doesn't it all
just come down to the fact that we're quite a
small country and there's not many people here. It's not
the population to make it all work. But we want it,
really want the stuff that other bigger countries have, don't
we that we can.
Speaker 1 (03:14):
News talk ze been.
Speaker 2 (03:16):
Right, So we're gov is finally here. It seems like
it's been around for a long time, but apparently we
have had it here, but now we have Hey, if
you don't know what I'm talking about, that's the injection
that makes you lose weight.
Speaker 5 (03:28):
As you know.
Speaker 6 (03:28):
Of course there are other costs. If you carry too
much weight makes you prone to illness, which makes you
take days off work, makes you less productive. So you
could also measure the lost cost of productivity across the workforce.
Now that's about eight billion dollars. So add that to
the cost of healthcare. You've now got let's say nine
and a half billion dollars or thereabouts that you would
be saving. But measuring productivity is a guessing game, right,
(03:51):
So you're paying seven point five billion dollars to maybe
save nine point five billion dollars, which I don't think
is enough of a saving to take a punt on,
do you. Then you have to factor in that for
a lot of people will go the only works when
you're on it. The minute that you're off it, you
start putting the weight back on. Within a year, you've
got it all again. If you don't have self discipline,
so you might fund it for a lot of people,
(04:12):
only to end up paying the cost of ABCD related
illness anyway later on. Now having said all of that,
of course, what we're not measuring here is the cost
of a life right, of a life well lived. And
we found a lot of drugs for people just to
keep them alive, so maybe we should do this just
to keep people alive. Now, the good news is that
were Gov comes off its patent in January, which means
that copycats will be made for much cheaper and that
(04:34):
may change the maths maybe next year, maybe the year
there after, but for now, if you're giving it to
everyone who might need it, the cost would simply be
too much to justify.
Speaker 2 (04:43):
I've been worried over the last few days that I've
got pancreatitis. This is why you never google your symptoms
but it's sort of a burning sensation kind of pain
on my abdomen and it's spread around to my back.
And you look that up and they say it's pancreatitis.
(05:03):
Does that mean I should look into getting with GOV?
And it sounds like I have to pay for it though,
hm hm, Why am I sharing my personal medical problems
with you? I don't know you talk right at times?
They're changing. The way we shop has changed because we
(05:26):
can't afford anything anymore. And that's what they were talking
about on the Afternoon Show yesterday.
Speaker 7 (05:31):
The Clicking Collector is amazing because yes it's free if
it's a certain amount, but we also took on like
hollow Fresh, and some people were going to chastise me,
so it's gone, Oh it's more extensive, but we found
it actually works such cheaper because we do meals to
cover us for lunches. But then as well as that,
we saved time and then we save money and then
(05:53):
that reduces our waste, so that saves money too, yeah
as well, but yeah, a lot more. Definitely, like we're now,
Son was younger, we definitely had to consider like what
brands and stuff like that. Like we it was obviously
a lot cheap to go to reusable nappy, because buying
those kinds of things at the supermarket or anywhere is
(06:15):
just incredibly expensive and just trial and error on different things.
But the guy that you were talking to earlier is
definitely like the cheaper brands of stuff are exact same
exactly men were the brands like you know, disinfectant, get
your two dollars one leater bottle of disinfectant instead of
(06:36):
your eco store like eucalyptus in Elders levelers stuff, and
it's just like it does the same job. Like it's
as well as like the butter, you know, those PAMs butters.
It's it's no different.
Speaker 4 (06:55):
So were good like Carl and see see I remember
when I was young, I used to get you know,
Donald duck comics and Disney comics. He's a level. Yeah,
well I'm talking. I'm seven to eight or nine, And
I remember screwed McDuck in his money been full of money.
And I remember Huey Dewey and Louis going Uncle Scrooge,
(07:16):
Why are you so Why are you so mean? You know?
Why why do you why do you worry about every
little cost? Why do you count every penny? And Uncle
Scrooge said, watch the pennies and the dimes look after themselves.
Speaker 2 (07:30):
It's Dickens way older than I thought he was Donald
Duck Comics and Dimes. So relatable stuff, right, it could
have at least said Donald Duck cartoons. I mean, I
(07:50):
guess it's good to be able to relate, have multi
generational relativity. Oh not sure where Dickens stands on AI,
but it sounds like Ryan is well and truly ready
to give it all up for our robot overlords.
Speaker 5 (08:10):
Microsoft's come out their AI unit has come out and
said they're creating a path to medical superintelligence. Look out world.
So they think in their case studies that their AI
doctor solves or correctly diagnosed eight out of ten case studies,
(08:30):
really complex ones eight out of ten. The real doctors
who didn't have access to the Internet or to books
or anything, the real doctors two out of ten. So
who you're going to trust? And that's the question you
start asking yourself. Do you trust AI to make important
decisions like health decisions on your behalf? Even though doctors
don't always get it right. The thought of a computer
(08:52):
deciding your fate is kind of weird, hard to get
used to. But if it's shown to work reliably, if
it's accurate, and I suppose why not. China, meanwhile, is
into robots big time. A company there wants a humanoid
robot cleaning our dishes and washing our clothes in a
matter of years. They had an exhibition this week. They
want one robot for every home and this I can
(09:15):
get on board with. But you've got to ask. With
the robots apparently taking every job under the sun, they'll
be cutting our hair soon. What are we going to
do once they've completed their mission to take over the world?
What do we do for work? Seventy seven percent of
companies are either using AI right now or are actively
trying to. Year on year growth for this industry is
(09:36):
now at more than one hundred percent. Seventy seven percent
of all devices in the world are currently using some
form of AI. And I get why this is happening
and everything from health to housework, because it's far more
efficient and cost effective to do this. But with so
much of the work being done by others, what's left to.
Speaker 2 (09:58):
Occupy our time? Well, that's what streaming's for, isn't it.
And you know, books and by the box of course,
I mean EBox on my kindle, you know, bring on
the wooly Wally Wally world. Anyway. You know, we were
all just being occupied in spaceships because we've got nothing
(10:22):
else to do. I'm boring news talk, has it been? Right?
Let's finish up here with Marcus's rules for calling in
the talk back and if you so. If you thought
that you know, just any old random call into Marcus's show,
think again, just.
Speaker 8 (10:39):
Reader, if you ring up, turn your radio off. That's
the early rule. You just don't be to annoying. That's
not really a rule, it's just wishful thinking.
Speaker 2 (10:53):
Right. So, yeah, that wasn't quite as comprehensive a list
of rules as I was hoping for. What lapels when
you pay play podcast? Really, that wasn't it. You even
know what's gonna shoot out of the barrel. You're gonna
shoot out of accuses barrel. It's a weird way of
putting it. Sorry, I was putting things weirdly at the
(11:14):
end of the podcast. Disappointing way to finish. I'll try
and look my game tomorrow. I see you then, Yeah,
Pankrea Titus permitting obviously.
Speaker 1 (11:23):
News talk is talking, said bean for more from News
Talk said B. Listen live on air or online, and
keep our shows with you wherever you go with our
podcasts on iHeartRadio
You're listening to a podcast from news Talk, said B
follow this and our wide range of podcasts now on iHeartRadio.
Used Talk said B Talk said, Hello.
Speaker 2 (00:23):
My beautiful beanies, and welcome to the bean for Wednesday.
First of yesterday's news, I am Glenn Hart, and we
are looking back at Tuesday, which was when we're go
be hit the shelves. There's a drug that you can
only get on prescriptions. Hit the shelves first, pose it's
on somebody's shelves somewhere. Supermarket shopping habits changing AI. How's
(00:49):
the robot apocalypse coming along? And what are Marcus's rules
for talkback? You didn't know there were rules, did you? But?
First up, who cares if we privatize the theories? As
long as there's a theory, right, Better to have a
private theory than no theory.
Speaker 3 (01:03):
I would have thought, why is it so hard? Two
heabsh ships that are seaworthy, captains who can steer them,
people who can maintain them. And either we know every
year how much it's going to cost us to keep
State Highway one open, which we have to do.
Speaker 4 (01:24):
Or.
Speaker 3 (01:25):
We allow private operators to run it and make small
profit from it. I you know, looking from the outside,
I wouldn't have thought it was possible. Bluebridge has been
able to do so as their room for another private operator. Well,
there are expressions of interest, clearly people think so, But
why has it been so troubled? It seems a relatively
(01:47):
simple organization. It's a bit like the lovely CEO from
Caring Order who said, really an effect, the job is
quite simple. We build houses for people and we rent
them out. He said. It only got difficult when the
previous administration wanted to make it a more social enterprise
and bring in mixed model housing communities. And I, you know,
(02:11):
I get that that's a lovely idea. But if you
drill down to what the job is, it's actually quite simple.
So why have we struggled for decades to run a
cook straight ferry crossing?
Speaker 4 (02:27):
It?
Speaker 3 (02:28):
Really, from the outside doesn't seem that difficult.
Speaker 2 (02:32):
I think it falls firmly and the why can't we
have nice things category, which seems to be there's a
general theme of that going on these days, isn't there
you know, all your counsel infrastructures breaking down. Some roads
get built, some don't. Rail doesn't really seem to be
working as a thing, and we theories don't seem to
(02:56):
be a going concern as such, And doesn't it all
just come down to the fact that we're quite a
small country and there's not many people here. It's not
the population to make it all work. But we want it,
really want the stuff that other bigger countries have, don't
we that we can.
Speaker 1 (03:14):
News talk ze been.
Speaker 2 (03:16):
Right, So we're gov is finally here. It seems like
it's been around for a long time, but apparently we
have had it here, but now we have Hey, if
you don't know what I'm talking about, that's the injection
that makes you lose weight.
Speaker 5 (03:28):
As you know.
Speaker 6 (03:28):
Of course there are other costs. If you carry too
much weight makes you prone to illness, which makes you
take days off work, makes you less productive. So you
could also measure the lost cost of productivity across the workforce.
Now that's about eight billion dollars. So add that to
the cost of healthcare. You've now got let's say nine
and a half billion dollars or thereabouts that you would
be saving. But measuring productivity is a guessing game, right,
(03:51):
So you're paying seven point five billion dollars to maybe
save nine point five billion dollars, which I don't think
is enough of a saving to take a punt on,
do you. Then you have to factor in that for
a lot of people will go the only works when
you're on it. The minute that you're off it, you
start putting the weight back on. Within a year, you've
got it all again. If you don't have self discipline,
so you might fund it for a lot of people,
(04:12):
only to end up paying the cost of ABCD related
illness anyway later on. Now having said all of that,
of course, what we're not measuring here is the cost
of a life right, of a life well lived. And
we found a lot of drugs for people just to
keep them alive, so maybe we should do this just
to keep people alive. Now, the good news is that
were Gov comes off its patent in January, which means
that copycats will be made for much cheaper and that
(04:34):
may change the maths maybe next year, maybe the year
there after, but for now, if you're giving it to
everyone who might need it, the cost would simply be
too much to justify.
Speaker 2 (04:43):
I've been worried over the last few days that I've
got pancreatitis. This is why you never google your symptoms
but it's sort of a burning sensation kind of pain
on my abdomen and it's spread around to my back.
And you look that up and they say it's pancreatitis.
(05:03):
Does that mean I should look into getting with GOV?
And it sounds like I have to pay for it though,
hm hm, Why am I sharing my personal medical problems
with you? I don't know you talk right at times?
They're changing. The way we shop has changed because we
(05:26):
can't afford anything anymore. And that's what they were talking
about on the Afternoon Show yesterday.
Speaker 7 (05:31):
The Clicking Collector is amazing because yes it's free if
it's a certain amount, but we also took on like
hollow Fresh, and some people were going to chastise me,
so it's gone, Oh it's more extensive, but we found
it actually works such cheaper because we do meals to
cover us for lunches. But then as well as that,
we saved time and then we save money and then
(05:53):
that reduces our waste, so that saves money too, yeah
as well, but yeah, a lot more. Definitely, like we're now,
Son was younger, we definitely had to consider like what
brands and stuff like that. Like we it was obviously
a lot cheap to go to reusable nappy, because buying
those kinds of things at the supermarket or anywhere is
(06:15):
just incredibly expensive and just trial and error on different things.
But the guy that you were talking to earlier is
definitely like the cheaper brands of stuff are exact same
exactly men were the brands like you know, disinfectant, get
your two dollars one leater bottle of disinfectant instead of
(06:36):
your eco store like eucalyptus in Elders levelers stuff, and
it's just like it does the same job. Like it's
as well as like the butter, you know, those PAMs butters.
It's it's no different.
Speaker 4 (06:55):
So were good like Carl and see see I remember
when I was young, I used to get you know,
Donald duck comics and Disney comics. He's a level. Yeah,
well I'm talking. I'm seven to eight or nine, And
I remember screwed McDuck in his money been full of money.
And I remember Huey Dewey and Louis going Uncle Scrooge,
(07:16):
Why are you so Why are you so mean? You know?
Why why do you why do you worry about every
little cost? Why do you count every penny? And Uncle
Scrooge said, watch the pennies and the dimes look after themselves.
Speaker 2 (07:30):
It's Dickens way older than I thought he was Donald
Duck Comics and Dimes. So relatable stuff, right, it could
have at least said Donald Duck cartoons. I mean, I
(07:50):
guess it's good to be able to relate, have multi
generational relativity. Oh not sure where Dickens stands on AI,
but it sounds like Ryan is well and truly ready
to give it all up for our robot overlords.
Speaker 5 (08:10):
Microsoft's come out their AI unit has come out and
said they're creating a path to medical superintelligence. Look out world.
So they think in their case studies that their AI
doctor solves or correctly diagnosed eight out of ten case studies,
(08:30):
really complex ones eight out of ten. The real doctors
who didn't have access to the Internet or to books
or anything, the real doctors two out of ten. So
who you're going to trust? And that's the question you
start asking yourself. Do you trust AI to make important
decisions like health decisions on your behalf? Even though doctors
don't always get it right. The thought of a computer
(08:52):
deciding your fate is kind of weird, hard to get
used to. But if it's shown to work reliably, if
it's accurate, and I suppose why not. China, meanwhile, is
into robots big time. A company there wants a humanoid
robot cleaning our dishes and washing our clothes in a
matter of years. They had an exhibition this week. They
want one robot for every home and this I can
(09:15):
get on board with. But you've got to ask. With
the robots apparently taking every job under the sun, they'll
be cutting our hair soon. What are we going to
do once they've completed their mission to take over the world?
What do we do for work? Seventy seven percent of
companies are either using AI right now or are actively
trying to. Year on year growth for this industry is
(09:36):
now at more than one hundred percent. Seventy seven percent
of all devices in the world are currently using some
form of AI. And I get why this is happening
and everything from health to housework, because it's far more
efficient and cost effective to do this. But with so
much of the work being done by others, what's left to.
Speaker 2 (09:58):
Occupy our time? Well, that's what streaming's for, isn't it.
And you know, books and by the box of course,
I mean EBox on my kindle, you know, bring on
the wooly Wally Wally world. Anyway. You know, we were
all just being occupied in spaceships because we've got nothing
(10:22):
else to do. I'm boring news talk, has it been? Right?
Let's finish up here with Marcus's rules for calling in
the talk back and if you so. If you thought
that you know, just any old random call into Marcus's show,
think again, just.
Speaker 8 (10:39):
Reader, if you ring up, turn your radio off. That's
the early rule. You just don't be to annoying. That's
not really a rule, it's just wishful thinking.
Speaker 2 (10:53):
Right. So, yeah, that wasn't quite as comprehensive a list
of rules as I was hoping for. What lapels when
you pay play podcast? Really, that wasn't it. You even
know what's gonna shoot out of the barrel. You're gonna
shoot out of accuses barrel. It's a weird way of
putting it. Sorry, I was putting things weirdly at the
(11:14):
end of the podcast. Disappointing way to finish. I'll try
and look my game tomorrow. I see you then, Yeah,
Pankrea Titus permitting obviously.
Speaker 1 (11:23):
News talk is talking, said bean for more from News
Talk said B. Listen live on air or online, and
keep our shows with you wherever you go with our
podcasts on iHeartRadio
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