June 5, 2024 • 11 mins
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Speaker 1 (00:09):
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Used Talk SEDB You Talk said Hello.
Speaker 3 (00:23):
My beautiful beanies, and welcome to the bean for Thursday.
First with yesterday's news Eye and Glen Hart, and we
are looking back at Wednesday killer dogs, dogs kill cats,
then we kill dogs. There seems to be how that works.
They usual lotto bs because the prize has got a
(00:47):
bit high. We'll see if Marcus has got anything new
to say about that. But before any of that, have
we fixed the inner city crime problem yet? And how
do we fix it? Mike?
Speaker 4 (01:03):
Any ideas can't fault Mark Mitchell on engagement, can you?
I mean, if the government has one blow who is
determined to sort some stuff out at hermy fronts, he listens.
He explains, Troublers, we get impatient around issues like crime
and thuggery, and we're triggered by the one event that
went pear shape, not the thirty seven that were contained
or quelled or you never heard about, which is not
to say any of it's acceptable, of course it's not.
(01:24):
But the downtown Auckland's story is one of despair and
deprivation and dishonesty leader after leader, if you think about it,
from me as officers, to business groups, to police, the
ministers to counselors, they've all had their say over the years,
but it's failed. And in that failure, actually, I'm thinking
might be a little bit of hope if this government
has the fortitude to act now. The reason we are
here because we wanted to try hugging people. Basically, we
(01:47):
would let them out of prison, we would give them
home detention. We might not even charge them at all,
and if we did charge them, we could rely on
a nice judge to wag his finger and tell us
not to do it again after he read the cultural report.
The advantage of that is we know what doesn't work
now as tossing them in jail. The antsw are probably
not long term, but surely it's reached the point now
where it's the best we've got and showed us over
(02:09):
the weekend. The respect for law and order is gone,
and it's gone because we got soft and thugs love
soft and take advantage of that. When the center of
a country's biggest city is a no go zone and
there's an industry in meetings of anger and despair and
exasperation from businesses going broke because of fear. Time is
up on excuses.
Speaker 3 (02:27):
Yeah, I think it's fair to say there's probably no
quick facts for a problem that it's just got progressively
worse over many years. It probably takes a few years
to undo that problem.
Speaker 5 (02:38):
Would I be right about that?
Speaker 1 (02:40):
News talk ze Bean?
Speaker 3 (02:42):
What do you think, Kerry?
Speaker 6 (02:43):
Would I be right about that?
Speaker 3 (02:46):
I don't think she's going to answer me directly, given
that I'm talking now and she was talking about between
hours ago.
Speaker 7 (02:53):
I can't even imagine what is going on in those
signapses to make it make him think that that was Okay.
Here's the frailest little person I can see, so I'm
going to hurt her. She was in a serious but
stable condition in hospital. Last time in a forty three
(03:13):
year old man has been arrested, honestly, And that's unfortunately
what you think of when you think of inner cities.
And I would love to hear from you if you
are in the inner city for either it's your home
or it's your place of work. Right around the country,
(03:38):
who can say hand on heart that there in a
city hub is thriving, that they consider it a joy
to be there, to be in amongst vibrant inner city living.
(03:58):
The unintended consequence of putting people who had nowhere else
to go into the backpackers in the inner city motels
means that the number of people who are in desperate
need of some sort of professional help far outweighs those
(04:20):
who just want to get about their business.
Speaker 3 (04:22):
So there's I guess that's sort of a solution from Kerry.
Get the baddies out of the inner cities because they've
moved in. Hard to move people outs they've moved in, though,
isn't it once again, I don't know that this is
a quick fix Q talk. So yeah, I'm the floor
is still open to people with ideas for the ideas Boss,
(04:47):
and they had to fix in a city crime.
Speaker 8 (04:49):
Got a couple of guys who pitched a tent in
the local park and seem to live there. They've been
there for like quite a few months now. Sometimes they
just smoke weed, smoke weed, or they quite fragrant, flagrantly
out there. I made a conscious decision about a month
ago that at nighttime now I'm not going to drive.
I'm not going to walk distances that can very comfortably
walk I'm going to drive them instead because I just
(05:10):
don't think it's safe anymore when it's dark. So I
want something done. As an Auckland Central resident, I want
something done, and I want something done really really quickly.
And I realize that there are some people who came
out of that meeting last night feeling much the same
as me, and feeling as she's quite unimpressed and unhappy
with what they heard there. But I have got a
slightly more optimistic take on it after what was said
at that meeting. At least Mark Mitchell acknowledges that there
(05:32):
is a problem. That is a massive change from what
we heard from Ginny Anderson when she was the Labour
Police Minister. She spent amazing amounts of time just pretending
we didn't have a crime problem. Do you remember that
she just said, oh no, we just got this fantastic
new app that allows us to report more crime. So
we're getting more reports, but there's not actually more crime,
which is just a load of bollocks and we all
knew that. And having Mark Mitchell actually front up to
(05:53):
meetings in his evenings when he is already an MP
of his own electorate, Plus he's a very busy cabinet
minister is actually, I think very impressive, and I think
we've got to be a little bit realistic about this.
This is not going to be fixed overnight. Mark Mitchell
is turning around six years of neglect about inner cities
with a previous government filled them with homeless people and
then pretended there wasn't crime problem. He's only been in
(06:14):
the job seven months. Give him a moment. He knows
what the fixes and this is the important thing. He
knows how to fix it. More police on the beat.
Already there are noticeably more. One of my colleagues who
lives nearby, says he sees them out all the time,
but there aren't enough because I don't see them all
the time and I don't live that far away. So yes,
absolutely there's room for improvement, and I'll tell you what
(06:36):
they're better be improvement. But for now I'm seeing enough
good signs to have some heart right.
Speaker 3 (06:41):
So I think we've got a basic consensus there that
things are going to get better. It's just a question
of when can somebody tell us when? Who can tell
us when?
Speaker 5 (06:55):
Now?
Speaker 3 (06:56):
From violent people to violent dogs? This islean. This is
an old chestnut, isn't it and we now and again
a case comes up. Three dogs come on Tropo. This
time it's killed a cat and now we have to
kill the dog because the dog has killed the cat.
This is a curly situation, isn't it.
Speaker 2 (07:16):
They would love that dog up and Harper where all
these boy races are. Then they're riddled with rabbits. Up there.
We've got a dog up there, one of my relations
and he's kind of like a Labrador dogan, and he's
got long legs. He puts his foot on the rabbit
and it comes on, showing off that he's called a rabbit.
And that's great. Really, yeah, I say it's instant. It's
(07:38):
up to every under to protect their own animal to day.
You know, put a big fence up for your.
Speaker 5 (07:42):
Cat, right so you don't think the dog should be
put down?
Speaker 2 (07:45):
Oh way, he'll be really valued in horror.
Speaker 5 (07:48):
Forneur Thank you Bernice.
Speaker 1 (07:52):
Hello, good Ugh, how are you?
Speaker 5 (07:54):
We're well? Thinks I suggest I'm going to get this
scolding from you though.
Speaker 9 (07:59):
Well, I've hate dogs all my life, but I've also
had cats all my life. I've never had a dog
and take a cat and survived the experience. That dog
there should be no discussion.
Speaker 2 (08:11):
It should be dead. The churches are more on and
so are you for detending it.
Speaker 5 (08:17):
Why why should the dog be put down for doing
what dogs do? They chase other animals, Bernice, I disagree.
Speaker 9 (08:25):
I pay hundreds of dogs. It's they've never chased a cat,
they've never chased a child, they've never chased another animal,
because they've been confined and trained.
Speaker 3 (08:36):
She said, hundreds of dogs, bloody hell. I tend to agree, though.
You can't descend slavering while dogs running around chomping down
on cats? Can you saying that most of the cats
(08:58):
I know been able to look after themselves when it
comes to dogs. Turn the table on it. When we
first got our dog, we had two cats, and I
think they thought it was quite well. One in particular,
one of the cats thought it was very funny when
(09:18):
the dog chased it, because it would just get on
a chair and sit there while the dog would bark
at it, going, I can't get on the chair. You've
defeated me again. Damn you genius cat. I guess the
problem is some dogs can get up on one hundred chairs.
Speaker 1 (09:37):
News Talk, Has it been right?
Speaker 9 (09:40):
So?
Speaker 3 (09:40):
Yes? Lotto's jet potted that surprize has got big even
as usual people for that.
Speaker 7 (09:46):
It's not fair.
Speaker 3 (09:47):
What does Marcus think.
Speaker 6 (09:48):
No one's won Loto, Well, no one's you know, no
one's won the forty three million. A couple of people
are sharing a million, get your lock and leave somewhere.
That's about it, like a car park. But yeah, anyway,
it's not transformative like a part of a million like
it once was. You know, talkback callers annoy me. The
most ones that say every time it'll go to fifty million,
(10:15):
like on Saturday, people bring up on front. They say, oh,
it's too much, they.
Speaker 5 (10:18):
Should share it.
Speaker 6 (10:19):
Why can't they give fifty people one million? Well, the
whole point of lotto is it's it all works on
the fantasy of greed. People need to imagine what they
do with fifty million. They can't imagine what they do
with a million dollars because that's not fantasy territory these days,
is it.
Speaker 3 (10:39):
Anyway, Marcus has got a rich fantasy life, and I
mean that in every sense of the words. I often
fantasize about having a million dollars queend on ponus me,
and that's a lot of pies. Like I say, I
think Marcus's fantasy life is rich than Miners. More fantasy
(11:08):
podcasting for you tomorrow. I will see you there.
Speaker 1 (11:11):
News Talking Talking zid Bean For more from us, Talk
zed B, Listen live on air or online, and keep
our shows with you wherever you go with our podcasts
on iHeartRadio
You're listening to a podcast from News Talk said B.
Follow this and our wide range of podcasts now on iHeartRadio.
Speaker 2 (00:19):
Used Talk SEDB You Talk said Hello.
Speaker 3 (00:23):
My beautiful beanies, and welcome to the bean for Thursday.
First with yesterday's news Eye and Glen Hart, and we
are looking back at Wednesday killer dogs, dogs kill cats,
then we kill dogs. There seems to be how that works.
They usual lotto bs because the prize has got a
(00:47):
bit high. We'll see if Marcus has got anything new
to say about that. But before any of that, have
we fixed the inner city crime problem yet? And how
do we fix it? Mike?
Speaker 4 (01:03):
Any ideas can't fault Mark Mitchell on engagement, can you?
I mean, if the government has one blow who is
determined to sort some stuff out at hermy fronts, he listens.
He explains, Troublers, we get impatient around issues like crime
and thuggery, and we're triggered by the one event that
went pear shape, not the thirty seven that were contained
or quelled or you never heard about, which is not
to say any of it's acceptable, of course it's not.
(01:24):
But the downtown Auckland's story is one of despair and
deprivation and dishonesty leader after leader, if you think about it,
from me as officers, to business groups, to police, the
ministers to counselors, they've all had their say over the years,
but it's failed. And in that failure, actually, I'm thinking
might be a little bit of hope if this government
has the fortitude to act now. The reason we are
here because we wanted to try hugging people. Basically, we
(01:47):
would let them out of prison, we would give them
home detention. We might not even charge them at all,
and if we did charge them, we could rely on
a nice judge to wag his finger and tell us
not to do it again after he read the cultural report.
The advantage of that is we know what doesn't work
now as tossing them in jail. The antsw are probably
not long term, but surely it's reached the point now
where it's the best we've got and showed us over
(02:09):
the weekend. The respect for law and order is gone,
and it's gone because we got soft and thugs love
soft and take advantage of that. When the center of
a country's biggest city is a no go zone and
there's an industry in meetings of anger and despair and
exasperation from businesses going broke because of fear. Time is
up on excuses.
Speaker 3 (02:27):
Yeah, I think it's fair to say there's probably no
quick facts for a problem that it's just got progressively
worse over many years. It probably takes a few years
to undo that problem.
Speaker 5 (02:38):
Would I be right about that?
Speaker 1 (02:40):
News talk ze Bean?
Speaker 3 (02:42):
What do you think, Kerry?
Speaker 6 (02:43):
Would I be right about that?
Speaker 3 (02:46):
I don't think she's going to answer me directly, given
that I'm talking now and she was talking about between
hours ago.
Speaker 7 (02:53):
I can't even imagine what is going on in those
signapses to make it make him think that that was Okay.
Here's the frailest little person I can see, so I'm
going to hurt her. She was in a serious but
stable condition in hospital. Last time in a forty three
(03:13):
year old man has been arrested, honestly, And that's unfortunately
what you think of when you think of inner cities.
And I would love to hear from you if you
are in the inner city for either it's your home
or it's your place of work. Right around the country,
(03:38):
who can say hand on heart that there in a
city hub is thriving, that they consider it a joy
to be there, to be in amongst vibrant inner city living.
(03:58):
The unintended consequence of putting people who had nowhere else
to go into the backpackers in the inner city motels
means that the number of people who are in desperate
need of some sort of professional help far outweighs those
(04:20):
who just want to get about their business.
Speaker 3 (04:22):
So there's I guess that's sort of a solution from Kerry.
Get the baddies out of the inner cities because they've
moved in. Hard to move people outs they've moved in, though,
isn't it once again, I don't know that this is
a quick fix Q talk. So yeah, I'm the floor
is still open to people with ideas for the ideas Boss,
(04:47):
and they had to fix in a city crime.
Speaker 8 (04:49):
Got a couple of guys who pitched a tent in
the local park and seem to live there. They've been
there for like quite a few months now. Sometimes they
just smoke weed, smoke weed, or they quite fragrant, flagrantly
out there. I made a conscious decision about a month
ago that at nighttime now I'm not going to drive.
I'm not going to walk distances that can very comfortably
walk I'm going to drive them instead because I just
(05:10):
don't think it's safe anymore when it's dark. So I
want something done. As an Auckland Central resident, I want
something done, and I want something done really really quickly.
And I realize that there are some people who came
out of that meeting last night feeling much the same
as me, and feeling as she's quite unimpressed and unhappy
with what they heard there. But I have got a
slightly more optimistic take on it after what was said
at that meeting. At least Mark Mitchell acknowledges that there
(05:32):
is a problem. That is a massive change from what
we heard from Ginny Anderson when she was the Labour
Police Minister. She spent amazing amounts of time just pretending
we didn't have a crime problem. Do you remember that
she just said, oh no, we just got this fantastic
new app that allows us to report more crime. So
we're getting more reports, but there's not actually more crime,
which is just a load of bollocks and we all
knew that. And having Mark Mitchell actually front up to
(05:53):
meetings in his evenings when he is already an MP
of his own electorate, Plus he's a very busy cabinet
minister is actually, I think very impressive, and I think
we've got to be a little bit realistic about this.
This is not going to be fixed overnight. Mark Mitchell
is turning around six years of neglect about inner cities
with a previous government filled them with homeless people and
then pretended there wasn't crime problem. He's only been in
(06:14):
the job seven months. Give him a moment. He knows
what the fixes and this is the important thing. He
knows how to fix it. More police on the beat.
Already there are noticeably more. One of my colleagues who
lives nearby, says he sees them out all the time,
but there aren't enough because I don't see them all
the time and I don't live that far away. So yes,
absolutely there's room for improvement, and I'll tell you what
(06:36):
they're better be improvement. But for now I'm seeing enough
good signs to have some heart right.
Speaker 3 (06:41):
So I think we've got a basic consensus there that
things are going to get better. It's just a question
of when can somebody tell us when? Who can tell
us when?
Speaker 5 (06:55):
Now?
Speaker 3 (06:56):
From violent people to violent dogs? This islean. This is
an old chestnut, isn't it and we now and again
a case comes up. Three dogs come on Tropo. This
time it's killed a cat and now we have to
kill the dog because the dog has killed the cat.
This is a curly situation, isn't it.
Speaker 2 (07:16):
They would love that dog up and Harper where all
these boy races are. Then they're riddled with rabbits. Up there.
We've got a dog up there, one of my relations
and he's kind of like a Labrador dogan, and he's
got long legs. He puts his foot on the rabbit
and it comes on, showing off that he's called a rabbit.
And that's great. Really, yeah, I say it's instant. It's
(07:38):
up to every under to protect their own animal to day.
You know, put a big fence up for your.
Speaker 5 (07:42):
Cat, right so you don't think the dog should be
put down?
Speaker 2 (07:45):
Oh way, he'll be really valued in horror.
Speaker 5 (07:48):
Forneur Thank you Bernice.
Speaker 1 (07:52):
Hello, good Ugh, how are you?
Speaker 5 (07:54):
We're well? Thinks I suggest I'm going to get this
scolding from you though.
Speaker 9 (07:59):
Well, I've hate dogs all my life, but I've also
had cats all my life. I've never had a dog
and take a cat and survived the experience. That dog
there should be no discussion.
Speaker 2 (08:11):
It should be dead. The churches are more on and
so are you for detending it.
Speaker 5 (08:17):
Why why should the dog be put down for doing
what dogs do? They chase other animals, Bernice, I disagree.
Speaker 9 (08:25):
I pay hundreds of dogs. It's they've never chased a cat,
they've never chased a child, they've never chased another animal,
because they've been confined and trained.
Speaker 3 (08:36):
She said, hundreds of dogs, bloody hell. I tend to agree, though.
You can't descend slavering while dogs running around chomping down
on cats? Can you saying that most of the cats
(08:58):
I know been able to look after themselves when it
comes to dogs. Turn the table on it. When we
first got our dog, we had two cats, and I
think they thought it was quite well. One in particular,
one of the cats thought it was very funny when
(09:18):
the dog chased it, because it would just get on
a chair and sit there while the dog would bark
at it, going, I can't get on the chair. You've
defeated me again. Damn you genius cat. I guess the
problem is some dogs can get up on one hundred chairs.
Speaker 1 (09:37):
News Talk, Has it been right?
Speaker 9 (09:40):
So?
Speaker 3 (09:40):
Yes? Lotto's jet potted that surprize has got big even
as usual people for that.
Speaker 7 (09:46):
It's not fair.
Speaker 3 (09:47):
What does Marcus think.
Speaker 6 (09:48):
No one's won Loto, Well, no one's you know, no
one's won the forty three million. A couple of people
are sharing a million, get your lock and leave somewhere.
That's about it, like a car park. But yeah, anyway,
it's not transformative like a part of a million like
it once was. You know, talkback callers annoy me. The
most ones that say every time it'll go to fifty million,
(10:15):
like on Saturday, people bring up on front. They say, oh,
it's too much, they.
Speaker 5 (10:18):
Should share it.
Speaker 6 (10:19):
Why can't they give fifty people one million? Well, the
whole point of lotto is it's it all works on
the fantasy of greed. People need to imagine what they
do with fifty million. They can't imagine what they do
with a million dollars because that's not fantasy territory these days,
is it.
Speaker 3 (10:39):
Anyway, Marcus has got a rich fantasy life, and I
mean that in every sense of the words. I often
fantasize about having a million dollars queend on ponus me,
and that's a lot of pies. Like I say, I
think Marcus's fantasy life is rich than Miners. More fantasy
(11:08):
podcasting for you tomorrow. I will see you there.
Speaker 1 (11:11):
News Talking Talking zid Bean For more from us, Talk
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