May 12, 2025 • 12 mins
FIRST WITH YESTERDAY'S NEWS (highlights from Monday on Newstalk ZB) Zero Tolerance for Idiots In Cars/How to Actually Ban Social Media/Are We All Okay Out There?/What Noise-Cancelling Headphones Are For
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Speaker 1 (00:09):
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Speaker 2 (00:24):
Hello, my beautiful beanies, and welcome to the Bean for Tuesday.
First with yesterday's news, I'm Glenhart. We're looking back at
Monday a social media band. I think we're all agreed.
It's a good idea, especially for the under sixteens, but
how can you actually do it? They were discussing rural
mental health yesterday afternoon, and I don't know what Marcus
(00:50):
was discussing, but he was having a conversation with somebody
when he was getting off the plane or something. But
before any of that, boy races. Are they finally going
to get this business sorted out? Or is it just
more talk?
Speaker 3 (01:04):
Yeah, this is how they learn to drive. There's nothing
for them to do. This is their passion. Well, no, no, nope.
There are plenty of places where these young men and
women can go on race legally if they want to
prove themselves. And don't come at with me with the oh,
(01:25):
it's expensive. You choose to spend money in all sorts
of ways. Your cars are expensive. You take pride in them,
pay the money, go to a racetrack where you can
really prove yourself. It's not harmless fun, not when people
have been killed, maimed and injured, and not when it's
(01:49):
costing hundreds of thousands of dollars. Not when you're filthy
little oiks leaving your rubbish everywhere, not when you're abusive enough.
You won't get your car seased if you don't break
the law really easy. You won't get your car seized
(02:11):
if you stop for police when they tell you to
do so. You won't get your motorbike seized when you
and your dodgy mates don't get together in a convoy
and break the law and stick two fingers at the
police and at us. It's really simple. Nobody's coming after you.
If your car is seized, you've gone looking for trouble.
(02:32):
Bring it on.
Speaker 2 (02:33):
I'm not a fan of having a police presence everywhere
you look, but as far as boy roses go and
prepared to make an exception, I really hate them. I
hate them so much. If your car makes a stupid noise,
as stupid spoilers, as stupid lights, if you burn rubber,
(03:00):
crash crash crash news talk has it been now something
asked that we all want banned? Is social media just
just to their kids? Though? No, no, no, none of
for us.
Speaker 4 (03:11):
The phones the tiktop problem far bigger than the car
one because it affects well most kids. About ninety percent
of kids when they get to high school have a smartphone.
So this is interesting because we moved beyond a members
bill now to a government bill, so a social media
ban of some sort is officially on the agenda. The
(03:32):
problem with enforcement here is obvious. How do you you
know when there are so many workarounds? How do you
make sure they're not going on social media? And the
enforces will not be the police, It will be the parents.
And here is the problem with that. Most parents spend
time on social media, spend more time on social media
than their kids. Nearly half of KIWI teams say that
(03:55):
their parent is at least sometimes distracted by their phone
when they're talking to them. What sort of an example
is being set here? Is it like telling you not
to smoke while you're puffing away on a winning blues
on the couch. Enforcement of whatever rules we pass to
manage the impulses of our teenagers will ultimately be determined
(04:19):
by how successful those measures are and being enforced.
Speaker 2 (04:23):
Yeah, I've said it already, but Ryan makes a good
point there that a lot of parents who are on
social media more than their kids are maybe different kinds,
but certainly doomscrolling away, which means, yeah, we've just better
for everyone. Well, can't we do that? That's surely that's easier.
(04:45):
Isn't it talk now here that she's a problem solver?
Does she anyway? Does she see any way that you
can just stop it for the kids, but still let
the adults do what they want.
Speaker 5 (04:57):
They know exactly how old that person is based on
what they're doing on the internet. They just don't want
to They don't want to tell you that they know
how to do that because they want to be able
to target these kids, and they do. You target these
kids directly for their age, and it makes the money.
But they want you to believe that they cannot target
these kids and they cannot figure out how old these
(05:18):
kids are.
Speaker 4 (05:18):
Just read a.
Speaker 5 (05:19):
Little bit about it. It doesn't take you a very
long time. There are multiple ways that you can figure
out that they can figure out how old the kids are.
They can require that we provide ID and then they
can hold our ID. Now that's not actually the perfect
out None of this is going to be perfect. It's
not the perfect outing outcome because I don't trust Facebook
with my ID, right, But maybe that's what we have
to do. Maybe we have to sacrifice a little bit
(05:41):
of our privacy for the sake of the kids. Or
maybe what we can do is we can verify ID
through a third party, a completely different outfit who goes yep,
actually here there is old enough to be on the
social media Facebook, You're allowed to let her on.
Speaker 1 (05:53):
You can do that.
Speaker 5 (05:54):
You can set up a system like that if you
want to trade off. Of course, this is going to
be costs involved in all kinds of other things. There
will be trade offs everywhere. But there are multiple ways
that we can do this. I can tell you though,
got a bit of argument for I got a bit
of time for that argument. I can tell the argument
I have no time for. Which is the one where
they go, oh, it's the adlication of parental responsibility. Yeah,
it's up to the parents, not the government to ban it. No, no, no, no,
(06:16):
hang on a tick. Think of social media like ciggis
or alcohol. Siggis and alcohol are damaging to our bodies,
but social media is equally damaging to your brain.
Speaker 6 (06:25):
Right.
Speaker 5 (06:26):
We don't leave the cities in alcohol up to the parents.
We require the people peddling the cigis and alcohol to
actually check that the kids are old enough, and the
onus is on them, and we need to do the
same thing with the social media. We must require the
people peddling the social media, which is harmful to our children,
to check that our children are old enough to be
using it, just like we do with boos and siggis.
It is possible. It is possible if we think it
(06:46):
is important enough, and I do.
Speaker 2 (06:48):
Could we do it like they did with the vapes
in Australia where you can only get them on prescription.
You have to go to a doctor and get a
prescription for social media. Yeah, because it's like anything, It's
probably of a benefit to some people, just not everyone
use it now mental health, especially in rural areas. This
(07:14):
is the topic of conversation yesterday afternoon with Matt and Tyler.
Speaker 7 (07:17):
Worked in an industry that felt quite isolating from my
point of view. I went down a pretty deep rabbit hole,
and I was lucky I had, like Mitch, a strong wife,
and she pushed and pushed and pushed and supported and
supported and supported and advocated for me to get the
(07:38):
right help. Now, my message would be to keep knocking
on doors, and that's very hard. It took a lot
to do that, but it wasn't until I come across
the sixth mental health practitioner if you like, psychologist therapist GPS.
(07:59):
What it took me six goes to find someone who
I drew a connection with, and I really think for me,
honestly was a difference.
Speaker 2 (08:11):
I mean, that would be as you.
Speaker 8 (08:14):
And I'm so glad you kept persevering aj but as
you said, that would be incredibly difficult for many to
keep persevering like that when they're feeling in that funk
and feeling so down. And it sounds like, luckily your
wife keep pushing you to keep knocking on those doors.
Speaker 2 (08:30):
So I mean, yeah, that's the solution to most things,
isn't it. Listen to what your wife says. If you
had one, I was going to say, you know, just
you listen to what your husband says as well that
I don't think that's even good advice, which is a
(08:55):
bit of a problem obviously for male same sex couples
because they've only got husbands to choose from. There should
be some sort of service for them, I think. And
that way, I think female same six couples have probably
got it easier, like a two wives situation. I think
(09:15):
you've got to us as many solutions. I wouldn't know.
I just do it with my wife tells me.
Speaker 6 (09:23):
That's for sure.
Speaker 2 (09:23):
My phone life is so much easier that way. News
talk has it been strange conversation? I mean, these podcasts
are strange conversations, aren't They Not quite as strange as
some of the conversations you have on a plane.
Speaker 6 (09:37):
Have you sat next to anyone exciting on a plane,
or your great plane conversations, or the most interesting person
you've met sitting next to on a plane, you might
have married them. I always think it's kind of like airplane.
It's like airplane. Ah, now, I'm going to think of
(09:57):
a word here. It's like airplane. What's the thing? When
you know, let me think of this. It's like conversation
roulette when you start, because if you if you picked
the wrong conversation with the wrong person, you stuck for
them the whole journey. You know, Oh, hector, it's free
(10:18):
hard to get out of a conversation on a plane.
Speaker 2 (10:21):
You can't that.
Speaker 6 (10:21):
Actually, I'm sick of you. You got to sort of
quite see. Oh you guys, so quietly we're talking. Then
quietly pick up the in flight magazine. Just look and
then suddenly you look for Actually, this looks a bit
of a dressing. Hang on, I'm going to read this
and there the bit. Let you're out of it. Very
hard thing to do. One of the great skills of
(10:43):
all time is to get yourself out of a phone
conversation aeroplane conversation.
Speaker 2 (10:47):
That's one of the invented noise canceling headphones. It's been
the entire fight in your own little world. I can
recommend various different brands and noise canceling headphones. JBL will
now do some earbuds. They allow you to plug the
(11:10):
case of the air buds into the in flight entertainment
system and then wirelessly the audio will be transmitted to
your noise canceling wireless air buds. They are fantastic. I've
tried them out. The battery life leaves a little bit
(11:33):
to be desired, but you will definitely get about three
hours of a nane conversation free flying thanks to those
only if you're watching something it's a lot of A
name conversation in it, or perhaps listen to this podcast
and if you are, thanks for doing that, and we'll
(11:56):
be back with more inane stuff tomorrow on the Kingdom
a Name. See then used.
Speaker 1 (12:02):
Talk Talk Said Beam for more from News Talk Said
BT live on air or online, and keep our shows
with you wherever you go with our podcasts on iHeartRadio
You're listening to a podcast from news Talk, said b
follow this and our wide range of podcasts now on iHeartRadio.
Used Talk said, be you Talk said.
Speaker 2 (00:24):
Hello, my beautiful beanies, and welcome to the Bean for Tuesday.
First with yesterday's news, I'm Glenhart. We're looking back at
Monday a social media band. I think we're all agreed.
It's a good idea, especially for the under sixteens, but
how can you actually do it? They were discussing rural
mental health yesterday afternoon, and I don't know what Marcus
(00:50):
was discussing, but he was having a conversation with somebody
when he was getting off the plane or something. But
before any of that, boy races. Are they finally going
to get this business sorted out? Or is it just
more talk?
Speaker 3 (01:04):
Yeah, this is how they learn to drive. There's nothing
for them to do. This is their passion. Well, no, no, nope.
There are plenty of places where these young men and
women can go on race legally if they want to
prove themselves. And don't come at with me with the oh,
(01:25):
it's expensive. You choose to spend money in all sorts
of ways. Your cars are expensive. You take pride in them,
pay the money, go to a racetrack where you can
really prove yourself. It's not harmless fun, not when people
have been killed, maimed and injured, and not when it's
(01:49):
costing hundreds of thousands of dollars. Not when you're filthy
little oiks leaving your rubbish everywhere, not when you're abusive enough.
You won't get your car seased if you don't break
the law really easy. You won't get your car seized
(02:11):
if you stop for police when they tell you to
do so. You won't get your motorbike seized when you
and your dodgy mates don't get together in a convoy
and break the law and stick two fingers at the
police and at us. It's really simple. Nobody's coming after you.
If your car is seized, you've gone looking for trouble.
(02:32):
Bring it on.
Speaker 2 (02:33):
I'm not a fan of having a police presence everywhere
you look, but as far as boy roses go and
prepared to make an exception, I really hate them. I
hate them so much. If your car makes a stupid noise,
as stupid spoilers, as stupid lights, if you burn rubber,
(03:00):
crash crash crash news talk has it been now something
asked that we all want banned? Is social media just
just to their kids? Though? No, no, no, none of
for us.
Speaker 4 (03:11):
The phones the tiktop problem far bigger than the car
one because it affects well most kids. About ninety percent
of kids when they get to high school have a smartphone.
So this is interesting because we moved beyond a members
bill now to a government bill, so a social media
ban of some sort is officially on the agenda. The
(03:32):
problem with enforcement here is obvious. How do you you
know when there are so many workarounds? How do you
make sure they're not going on social media? And the
enforces will not be the police, It will be the parents.
And here is the problem with that. Most parents spend
time on social media, spend more time on social media
than their kids. Nearly half of KIWI teams say that
(03:55):
their parent is at least sometimes distracted by their phone
when they're talking to them. What sort of an example
is being set here? Is it like telling you not
to smoke while you're puffing away on a winning blues
on the couch. Enforcement of whatever rules we pass to
manage the impulses of our teenagers will ultimately be determined
(04:19):
by how successful those measures are and being enforced.
Speaker 2 (04:23):
Yeah, I've said it already, but Ryan makes a good
point there that a lot of parents who are on
social media more than their kids are maybe different kinds,
but certainly doomscrolling away, which means, yeah, we've just better
for everyone. Well, can't we do that? That's surely that's easier.
(04:45):
Isn't it talk now here that she's a problem solver?
Does she anyway? Does she see any way that you
can just stop it for the kids, but still let
the adults do what they want.
Speaker 5 (04:57):
They know exactly how old that person is based on
what they're doing on the internet. They just don't want
to They don't want to tell you that they know
how to do that because they want to be able
to target these kids, and they do. You target these
kids directly for their age, and it makes the money.
But they want you to believe that they cannot target
these kids and they cannot figure out how old these
(05:18):
kids are.
Speaker 4 (05:18):
Just read a.
Speaker 5 (05:19):
Little bit about it. It doesn't take you a very
long time. There are multiple ways that you can figure
out that they can figure out how old the kids are.
They can require that we provide ID and then they
can hold our ID. Now that's not actually the perfect
out None of this is going to be perfect. It's
not the perfect outing outcome because I don't trust Facebook
with my ID, right, But maybe that's what we have
to do. Maybe we have to sacrifice a little bit
(05:41):
of our privacy for the sake of the kids. Or
maybe what we can do is we can verify ID
through a third party, a completely different outfit who goes yep,
actually here there is old enough to be on the
social media Facebook, You're allowed to let her on.
Speaker 1 (05:53):
You can do that.
Speaker 5 (05:54):
You can set up a system like that if you
want to trade off. Of course, this is going to
be costs involved in all kinds of other things. There
will be trade offs everywhere. But there are multiple ways
that we can do this. I can tell you though,
got a bit of argument for I got a bit
of time for that argument. I can tell the argument
I have no time for. Which is the one where
they go, oh, it's the adlication of parental responsibility. Yeah,
it's up to the parents, not the government to ban it. No, no, no, no,
(06:16):
hang on a tick. Think of social media like ciggis
or alcohol. Siggis and alcohol are damaging to our bodies,
but social media is equally damaging to your brain.
Speaker 6 (06:25):
Right.
Speaker 5 (06:26):
We don't leave the cities in alcohol up to the parents.
We require the people peddling the cigis and alcohol to
actually check that the kids are old enough, and the
onus is on them, and we need to do the
same thing with the social media. We must require the
people peddling the social media, which is harmful to our children,
to check that our children are old enough to be
using it, just like we do with boos and siggis.
It is possible. It is possible if we think it
(06:46):
is important enough, and I do.
Speaker 2 (06:48):
Could we do it like they did with the vapes
in Australia where you can only get them on prescription.
You have to go to a doctor and get a
prescription for social media. Yeah, because it's like anything, It's
probably of a benefit to some people, just not everyone
use it now mental health, especially in rural areas. This
(07:14):
is the topic of conversation yesterday afternoon with Matt and Tyler.
Speaker 7 (07:17):
Worked in an industry that felt quite isolating from my
point of view. I went down a pretty deep rabbit hole,
and I was lucky I had, like Mitch, a strong wife,
and she pushed and pushed and pushed and supported and
supported and supported and advocated for me to get the
(07:38):
right help. Now, my message would be to keep knocking
on doors, and that's very hard. It took a lot
to do that, but it wasn't until I come across
the sixth mental health practitioner if you like, psychologist therapist GPS.
(07:59):
What it took me six goes to find someone who
I drew a connection with, and I really think for me,
honestly was a difference.
Speaker 2 (08:11):
I mean, that would be as you.
Speaker 8 (08:14):
And I'm so glad you kept persevering aj but as
you said, that would be incredibly difficult for many to
keep persevering like that when they're feeling in that funk
and feeling so down. And it sounds like, luckily your
wife keep pushing you to keep knocking on those doors.
Speaker 2 (08:30):
So I mean, yeah, that's the solution to most things,
isn't it. Listen to what your wife says. If you
had one, I was going to say, you know, just
you listen to what your husband says as well that
I don't think that's even good advice, which is a
(08:55):
bit of a problem obviously for male same sex couples
because they've only got husbands to choose from. There should
be some sort of service for them, I think. And
that way, I think female same six couples have probably
got it easier, like a two wives situation. I think
(09:15):
you've got to us as many solutions. I wouldn't know.
I just do it with my wife tells me.
Speaker 6 (09:23):
That's for sure.
Speaker 2 (09:23):
My phone life is so much easier that way. News
talk has it been strange conversation? I mean, these podcasts
are strange conversations, aren't They Not quite as strange as
some of the conversations you have on a plane.
Speaker 6 (09:37):
Have you sat next to anyone exciting on a plane,
or your great plane conversations, or the most interesting person
you've met sitting next to on a plane, you might
have married them. I always think it's kind of like airplane.
It's like airplane. Ah, now, I'm going to think of
(09:57):
a word here. It's like airplane. What's the thing? When
you know, let me think of this. It's like conversation
roulette when you start, because if you if you picked
the wrong conversation with the wrong person, you stuck for
them the whole journey. You know, Oh, hector, it's free
(10:18):
hard to get out of a conversation on a plane.
Speaker 2 (10:21):
You can't that.
Speaker 6 (10:21):
Actually, I'm sick of you. You got to sort of
quite see. Oh you guys, so quietly we're talking. Then
quietly pick up the in flight magazine. Just look and
then suddenly you look for Actually, this looks a bit
of a dressing. Hang on, I'm going to read this
and there the bit. Let you're out of it. Very
hard thing to do. One of the great skills of
(10:43):
all time is to get yourself out of a phone
conversation aeroplane conversation.
Speaker 2 (10:47):
That's one of the invented noise canceling headphones. It's been
the entire fight in your own little world. I can
recommend various different brands and noise canceling headphones. JBL will
now do some earbuds. They allow you to plug the
(11:10):
case of the air buds into the in flight entertainment
system and then wirelessly the audio will be transmitted to
your noise canceling wireless air buds. They are fantastic. I've
tried them out. The battery life leaves a little bit
(11:33):
to be desired, but you will definitely get about three
hours of a nane conversation free flying thanks to those
only if you're watching something it's a lot of A
name conversation in it, or perhaps listen to this podcast
and if you are, thanks for doing that, and we'll
(11:56):
be back with more inane stuff tomorrow on the Kingdom
a Name. See then used.
Speaker 1 (12:02):
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