April 6, 2025 • 12 mins
FIRST WITH YESTERDAY'S NEWS (highlights from the weekend on Newstalk ZB) Especially When He's Controlling the Depth and the Speed/Who Cares How We Slim Down?/The New Black Caps Look Good/Marlon Again
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Speaker 1 (00:09):
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Speaker 2 (00:22):
Hello, my beautiful beanies, and welcome to the Bean The
week in edition, first of yesterday's News. I'm going to
throw Saturday in there as well, because otherwise it's not
really a weekend weight loss Drugs like we go there,
are they good or bad? I think I've ever simplified
the issue there. The black Caps have been going well,
(00:44):
even though we've never heard of some of them, and
Marlon Williams we've definitely heard of because he seems to
be in our studios every second week. But before any
of that, yes, tariff talk, plenty of tariff talk, of course,
and I'm sure there will be for the next little while.
Speaker 3 (01:02):
So he's kicked off a global trade ward that'll leave
a majority of US worst off. Fan all part of
the genius. It's a full game to try and predict
Donald Trump's next move, but for the little it's worth.
My best guess, and it is just that a guess
(01:22):
is that none of these tariffs are set in stone.
Countries are going to try and plicate him. Companies in
the US are going to try and negotiate their own
little carve outs. If you're a company that relies on
bringing in some mineral from China and you need that
to develop your industry, You're going to go and knock
(01:42):
on the door at Pennsylvania Avenue and ask Donald Trump
for a little bit of special treatment. And Donald Trump
is going to absolutely love picking favorites. That being said,
his approach will lurch all over the place, defined only
by spur of the moment, whims and incoherence. Regardless of
(02:03):
what happens, Trump will claim success. His supporters will agree
in global order looks that much more unstable.
Speaker 2 (02:12):
Have we ever really had any global order?
Speaker 4 (02:17):
You know?
Speaker 2 (02:18):
How stable have things ever been? Are things less really
less stable than they ever were?
Speaker 5 (02:29):
Maybe? I don't know.
Speaker 2 (02:34):
It's all I keep being told it's a turbulent time.
Speaker 5 (02:36):
But I feel like I've been told it's a turbulent
time before news talk has it been coming here. I'm
probably not saying that correctly. He wasn't a fan. I
don't think that become Paris.
Speaker 2 (02:55):
I'm just getting that vibe he was on with Jim
Year's Stay Afternoon.
Speaker 6 (02:58):
There are some strange calculations that the White House has
done when it came to up calculating who was going
to get hit with these tariffs? What have they what
have they done?
Speaker 5 (03:05):
Strangely, well, it was quite bizarre.
Speaker 7 (03:08):
They essentially said, any country that has a trade deficit
that can be resolved with tariffs. Now that's not really
how tariffs work. Usually what you have is somebody will
impose a tax on a particular type of product from
a particular type of country. But the Americans or their
White House in this instance, has taken the view that
if you have a trade deficit, it must be because
(03:30):
you have tariffs. Now, New Zealand does not impose tariffs
on American products.
Speaker 6 (03:35):
And also it seems like he's used he's used trade
deficits in some examples. No, I think I saw something
in the.
Speaker 5 (03:39):
GA all of it.
Speaker 6 (03:40):
It's all of it, and it's all of it. So
instead of looking at tariffs, he's just looked at, for instance,
so I think China the goods trade deficit, he's simply
he's taken half of what it is and come up
down from sixty seven percent to thirty four percent.
Speaker 7 (03:56):
Very much. And yeah, it's just a really bizarre thing,
Like it just makes no kind of sense. And they've
also taken just one year's deficit. Now trade deficits move
around massively from year to year. But I guess what
is shows is there isn't a whole heap of thought
around how this policy has been put forward. It's very ideological.
It's very strongly viewed within the White House that trade
(04:17):
defaces are bad and tariffs will solve it. And that's
the thing that's created so much uncertainty. I don't think
financial markets expected that it would be so blunt and
so crude and so poorly thought out.
Speaker 6 (04:29):
I guess that's why we've seen such a massive amount
of value wiped off US stocks.
Speaker 7 (04:34):
Oh it's been frightening. I mean I was an economist
at Goldman Sachs when the global financial crisis happened, and
that was bad, but.
Speaker 5 (04:40):
This was worse? How much worse?
Speaker 7 (04:45):
Well, it's been deeper and faster than when that happened.
Speaker 2 (04:48):
I don't think you ever want it to be deeper
and faster, do you. Deeper and slower sometimes can be good.
I don't know is deeper ever.
Speaker 5 (05:04):
Really that good? Though?
Speaker 2 (05:06):
Citybody talking about green move on okay, and prad Jessica's
been having a little think about things like a zembic
and the goovi the weight of God's drugs. Probably know
if it's such a fan of using them for cosmetic means,
(05:27):
but it sounds like she's a fan of using them
to I don't know, help solve a lot of our
health issues.
Speaker 8 (05:34):
If you use this drugs selectively on people who have
exhausted other means of losing weight and are facing serious
health issues, it could be a massive game changer for
our health system. It was a cardiologist involved in heart
transplants who convinced me of the importance of access to
drugs like wigov. She told me it could be the
(05:54):
one thing which stops a heart transplant patient being the
only option left for them. I've had gps say to
me this could have a huge impact on reducing type
two diabetes, orthopedic issues, cancer and strokes. They're not saying
it should be available for every obese New Zealander that
would be one in three adults, but for patients with
(06:16):
chronic complex conditions. But here's the thing. At the stage,
FARMC is not funding the drug and it's cost prohibitive.
With gov is available in Australia, it costs New Zealand
about four hundred and ninety seven per month for the
recommended dose required to have the best weight management outcome.
So serious work needs to go into assessing the benefit
(06:37):
a drug such as this could have on reducing the
burden on our house system. If the benefits outweigh the costs,
then it needs to be funded by Farmac as soon
as possible.
Speaker 5 (06:47):
Yeah, I mentioned this last week.
Speaker 2 (06:49):
I feel like I am staying to rely on more
and more drugs to keep me alive when really probably
what I should be doing is eating less bad stuff
and exercising war.
Speaker 5 (07:04):
Thiss is so hard, isn't it? Used talk Si right, I.
Speaker 2 (07:08):
Don't know how closely you've been following the cricket lately.
Speaker 5 (07:11):
That's right.
Speaker 2 (07:11):
We hear cricket over the weekend, even at April. In
the next all they got most of it done over
at the Mounte bit of a late start, but other
than there.
Speaker 5 (07:24):
And once again the Black Cats were victorious.
Speaker 2 (07:28):
It seems like Pakistan have haw they fired a shot.
Speaker 9 (07:30):
Well, what's gone so well over these three matches for
the for the Black Apps?
Speaker 4 (07:35):
Oh, I just obviously it's a new team coming in.
Everyone was with quite a few guys over at the IPL.
I think everybody was just super keen to get stuck
in and just yeah, puts the best product out there,
and it was just good fun.
Speaker 5 (07:49):
Yeah.
Speaker 9 (07:49):
How enjoyable was it being part of what might be
called a pretty pretty fresh looking white ball team. How
exciting was that?
Speaker 4 (07:57):
Oh? It was awesome. Yeah, just obviously a bit of
a different bowling unit with myself in dust coming in
and obviously was was at the Champions Trophy, but yeah,
it was. It was really just a great group of
guys really enjoyed playing together, and yeah, it was good fun.
Speaker 9 (08:15):
So back to back five wicket bags for you. Even
when you got your fifth wicket yesterday, the only really
a hint of a smile from you. You must have
enjoyed though, contributing to another win in this way, Oh.
Speaker 4 (08:26):
Yeah, absolutely, no, it was great fun being out there
just to have yeah, Jacob, Dusty and Willow Rock bowling
so well at the top. Yeah, it was just it
was an awesome opportunity just to come in behind them
and see if I could add a little bit, and
like the pressure they built through those games, all three
of them, really we just put us on just touch
on the front foot. But yeah, it goes coming hard
(08:48):
at me, and it was nice. Nice to get a
few wickets on the back of that.
Speaker 2 (08:52):
So yeah, excitement machine and bowling machines. That Nana benc
Is there did a bit of damage to the Pakistanis
You'll last you gas.
Speaker 5 (09:03):
He's a nice clothes don't they news?
Speaker 2 (09:06):
Talk it Bean, I've got another nice now, Marlon Williams.
Speaker 5 (09:10):
I have publicly stated before that I'm not really a
fan of his music, so that's it's not my style,
but he seems to make.
Speaker 2 (09:18):
A lot of it, and he also seems to be
on new thoughts.
Speaker 5 (09:21):
You Billie as well. I think it's doing all right, Marlon.
It's a funny ta WakaWaka. That means the messy house,
doesn't it?
Speaker 10 (09:32):
Yeah, yeah, the messy house. Yeah, it's sort of a
I guess I suppose on one level, it's a sort
of a metaphor for the the pains and chaos of creation,
and you know how creation comes out of comes out
of disorder, and you know, you just you have a
house full of of ideas and you sort of sit
(09:54):
quietly and let them talk to each other and then
hopefully they they formed some sort of cohesive thing.
Speaker 3 (10:01):
Okay, explain that to us more, What do you mean
it's a it's a metaphor. So you basically had your
feeling like things are a bit scrambled, and this is
this has been a process of clarifying.
Speaker 5 (10:10):
Man.
Speaker 10 (10:10):
Yes, you know, I think it's it speaks to the
fact you've got to let you've got to let the
chaos sit for a while before and and not try
and impose any too much will on them, let on
things before they before they've had a time to speak
to each other and sort of arrange themselves.
Speaker 3 (10:27):
Okay, what is striking too many about the album is
this is your first full album entirely into del Marty,
tell us about that decision.
Speaker 10 (10:37):
Yeah, well, it's been around, It's been around in my
head for a while, the idea of doing it. You know,
I grew up speaking a little bit, went to Kungladell,
but it will sort of drifted away from me again
as I went into my moved on into my childhood,
into primary school. But I always was always singing, singing,
(10:59):
and Marty, and you know, it's just such a beautifully
beautiful sung language. So I always knew at some point
that I was going to come back around and give
myself an excuse to be able to sing singing Todell.
And yet twenty nineteen came along and I sort of
was in between writing records and the first sort of
(11:21):
first song came out came came to me, which was
which is the first single, and I born in a
collaborator and a fellow little Tonian, a rapper and Todel
Mardi teacher named Commy, and so they, yeah, they helped
me grace very graciously to put the album together and
(11:44):
then yeah, we just sort of wrote over the next
few years and then recorded at the end of twenty
twenty three, and now we're we're releasing Did.
Speaker 2 (11:51):
You find it funny that Jack completely mispronunciated the name
of Marlon's album there like he said it in a
way it was like, I'm aware here, I know what
your album is called and what it means.
Speaker 5 (12:08):
I'd actually pronounced it wrong to funny Ta WakaWaka. That
means the messy house, doesn't it?
Speaker 10 (12:13):
T weeker Wiko?
Speaker 6 (12:14):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, I thought it.
Speaker 5 (12:15):
Over study anyway.
Speaker 2 (12:17):
Sorry, sorry, Jack, I'm not laughing at you, I'm laughing
beside you.
Speaker 5 (12:22):
That has been news talks.
Speaker 2 (12:23):
You've been for the weekend, I'll be back here to
laugh beside some other hosts.
Speaker 1 (12:30):
Us talking talks it been for more from News Talk
said B. Listen live on air or online, and keep
our shows with you wherever you go with our podcast
on iHeartRadio
You're listening to a podcast from News Talk Said B.
Follow this and our wide range of podcasts now on
iHeartRadio Used Talk Said Talk.
Speaker 2 (00:22):
Hello, my beautiful beanies, and welcome to the Bean The
week in edition, first of yesterday's News. I'm going to
throw Saturday in there as well, because otherwise it's not
really a weekend weight loss Drugs like we go there,
are they good or bad? I think I've ever simplified
the issue there. The black Caps have been going well,
(00:44):
even though we've never heard of some of them, and
Marlon Williams we've definitely heard of because he seems to
be in our studios every second week. But before any
of that, yes, tariff talk, plenty of tariff talk, of course,
and I'm sure there will be for the next little while.
Speaker 3 (01:02):
So he's kicked off a global trade ward that'll leave
a majority of US worst off. Fan all part of
the genius. It's a full game to try and predict
Donald Trump's next move, but for the little it's worth.
My best guess, and it is just that a guess
(01:22):
is that none of these tariffs are set in stone.
Countries are going to try and plicate him. Companies in
the US are going to try and negotiate their own
little carve outs. If you're a company that relies on
bringing in some mineral from China and you need that
to develop your industry, You're going to go and knock
(01:42):
on the door at Pennsylvania Avenue and ask Donald Trump
for a little bit of special treatment. And Donald Trump
is going to absolutely love picking favorites. That being said,
his approach will lurch all over the place, defined only
by spur of the moment, whims and incoherence. Regardless of
(02:03):
what happens, Trump will claim success. His supporters will agree
in global order looks that much more unstable.
Speaker 2 (02:12):
Have we ever really had any global order?
Speaker 4 (02:17):
You know?
Speaker 2 (02:18):
How stable have things ever been? Are things less really
less stable than they ever were?
Speaker 5 (02:29):
Maybe? I don't know.
Speaker 2 (02:34):
It's all I keep being told it's a turbulent time.
Speaker 5 (02:36):
But I feel like I've been told it's a turbulent
time before news talk has it been coming here. I'm
probably not saying that correctly. He wasn't a fan. I
don't think that become Paris.
Speaker 2 (02:55):
I'm just getting that vibe he was on with Jim
Year's Stay Afternoon.
Speaker 6 (02:58):
There are some strange calculations that the White House has
done when it came to up calculating who was going
to get hit with these tariffs? What have they what
have they done?
Speaker 5 (03:05):
Strangely, well, it was quite bizarre.
Speaker 7 (03:08):
They essentially said, any country that has a trade deficit
that can be resolved with tariffs. Now that's not really
how tariffs work. Usually what you have is somebody will
impose a tax on a particular type of product from
a particular type of country. But the Americans or their
White House in this instance, has taken the view that
if you have a trade deficit, it must be because
(03:30):
you have tariffs. Now, New Zealand does not impose tariffs
on American products.
Speaker 6 (03:35):
And also it seems like he's used he's used trade
deficits in some examples. No, I think I saw something
in the.
Speaker 5 (03:39):
GA all of it.
Speaker 6 (03:40):
It's all of it, and it's all of it. So
instead of looking at tariffs, he's just looked at, for instance,
so I think China the goods trade deficit, he's simply
he's taken half of what it is and come up
down from sixty seven percent to thirty four percent.
Speaker 7 (03:56):
Very much. And yeah, it's just a really bizarre thing,
Like it just makes no kind of sense. And they've
also taken just one year's deficit. Now trade deficits move
around massively from year to year. But I guess what
is shows is there isn't a whole heap of thought
around how this policy has been put forward. It's very ideological.
It's very strongly viewed within the White House that trade
(04:17):
defaces are bad and tariffs will solve it. And that's
the thing that's created so much uncertainty. I don't think
financial markets expected that it would be so blunt and
so crude and so poorly thought out.
Speaker 6 (04:29):
I guess that's why we've seen such a massive amount
of value wiped off US stocks.
Speaker 7 (04:34):
Oh it's been frightening. I mean I was an economist
at Goldman Sachs when the global financial crisis happened, and
that was bad, but.
Speaker 5 (04:40):
This was worse? How much worse?
Speaker 7 (04:45):
Well, it's been deeper and faster than when that happened.
Speaker 2 (04:48):
I don't think you ever want it to be deeper
and faster, do you. Deeper and slower sometimes can be good.
I don't know is deeper ever.
Speaker 5 (05:04):
Really that good? Though?
Speaker 2 (05:06):
Citybody talking about green move on okay, and prad Jessica's
been having a little think about things like a zembic
and the goovi the weight of God's drugs. Probably know
if it's such a fan of using them for cosmetic means,
(05:27):
but it sounds like she's a fan of using them
to I don't know, help solve a lot of our
health issues.
Speaker 8 (05:34):
If you use this drugs selectively on people who have
exhausted other means of losing weight and are facing serious
health issues, it could be a massive game changer for
our health system. It was a cardiologist involved in heart
transplants who convinced me of the importance of access to
drugs like wigov. She told me it could be the
(05:54):
one thing which stops a heart transplant patient being the
only option left for them. I've had gps say to
me this could have a huge impact on reducing type
two diabetes, orthopedic issues, cancer and strokes. They're not saying
it should be available for every obese New Zealander that
would be one in three adults, but for patients with
(06:16):
chronic complex conditions. But here's the thing. At the stage,
FARMC is not funding the drug and it's cost prohibitive.
With gov is available in Australia, it costs New Zealand
about four hundred and ninety seven per month for the
recommended dose required to have the best weight management outcome.
So serious work needs to go into assessing the benefit
(06:37):
a drug such as this could have on reducing the
burden on our house system. If the benefits outweigh the costs,
then it needs to be funded by Farmac as soon
as possible.
Speaker 5 (06:47):
Yeah, I mentioned this last week.
Speaker 2 (06:49):
I feel like I am staying to rely on more
and more drugs to keep me alive when really probably
what I should be doing is eating less bad stuff
and exercising war.
Speaker 5 (07:04):
Thiss is so hard, isn't it? Used talk Si right, I.
Speaker 2 (07:08):
Don't know how closely you've been following the cricket lately.
Speaker 5 (07:11):
That's right.
Speaker 2 (07:11):
We hear cricket over the weekend, even at April. In
the next all they got most of it done over
at the Mounte bit of a late start, but other
than there.
Speaker 5 (07:24):
And once again the Black Cats were victorious.
Speaker 2 (07:28):
It seems like Pakistan have haw they fired a shot.
Speaker 9 (07:30):
Well, what's gone so well over these three matches for
the for the Black Apps?
Speaker 4 (07:35):
Oh, I just obviously it's a new team coming in.
Everyone was with quite a few guys over at the IPL.
I think everybody was just super keen to get stuck
in and just yeah, puts the best product out there,
and it was just good fun.
Speaker 5 (07:49):
Yeah.
Speaker 9 (07:49):
How enjoyable was it being part of what might be
called a pretty pretty fresh looking white ball team. How
exciting was that?
Speaker 4 (07:57):
Oh? It was awesome. Yeah, just obviously a bit of
a different bowling unit with myself in dust coming in
and obviously was was at the Champions Trophy, but yeah,
it was. It was really just a great group of
guys really enjoyed playing together, and yeah, it was good fun.
Speaker 9 (08:15):
So back to back five wicket bags for you. Even
when you got your fifth wicket yesterday, the only really
a hint of a smile from you. You must have
enjoyed though, contributing to another win in this way, Oh.
Speaker 4 (08:26):
Yeah, absolutely, no, it was great fun being out there
just to have yeah, Jacob, Dusty and Willow Rock bowling
so well at the top. Yeah, it was just it
was an awesome opportunity just to come in behind them
and see if I could add a little bit, and
like the pressure they built through those games, all three
of them, really we just put us on just touch
on the front foot. But yeah, it goes coming hard
(08:48):
at me, and it was nice. Nice to get a
few wickets on the back of that.
Speaker 2 (08:52):
So yeah, excitement machine and bowling machines. That Nana benc
Is there did a bit of damage to the Pakistanis
You'll last you gas.
Speaker 5 (09:03):
He's a nice clothes don't they news?
Speaker 2 (09:06):
Talk it Bean, I've got another nice now, Marlon Williams.
Speaker 5 (09:10):
I have publicly stated before that I'm not really a
fan of his music, so that's it's not my style,
but he seems to make.
Speaker 2 (09:18):
A lot of it, and he also seems to be
on new thoughts.
Speaker 5 (09:21):
You Billie as well. I think it's doing all right, Marlon.
It's a funny ta WakaWaka. That means the messy house,
doesn't it?
Speaker 10 (09:32):
Yeah, yeah, the messy house. Yeah, it's sort of a
I guess I suppose on one level, it's a sort
of a metaphor for the the pains and chaos of creation,
and you know how creation comes out of comes out
of disorder, and you know, you just you have a
house full of of ideas and you sort of sit
(09:54):
quietly and let them talk to each other and then
hopefully they they formed some sort of cohesive thing.
Speaker 3 (10:01):
Okay, explain that to us more, What do you mean
it's a it's a metaphor. So you basically had your
feeling like things are a bit scrambled, and this is
this has been a process of clarifying.
Speaker 5 (10:10):
Man.
Speaker 10 (10:10):
Yes, you know, I think it's it speaks to the
fact you've got to let you've got to let the
chaos sit for a while before and and not try
and impose any too much will on them, let on
things before they before they've had a time to speak
to each other and sort of arrange themselves.
Speaker 3 (10:27):
Okay, what is striking too many about the album is
this is your first full album entirely into del Marty,
tell us about that decision.
Speaker 10 (10:37):
Yeah, well, it's been around, It's been around in my
head for a while, the idea of doing it. You know,
I grew up speaking a little bit, went to Kungladell,
but it will sort of drifted away from me again
as I went into my moved on into my childhood,
into primary school. But I always was always singing, singing,
(10:59):
and Marty, and you know, it's just such a beautifully
beautiful sung language. So I always knew at some point
that I was going to come back around and give
myself an excuse to be able to sing singing Todell.
And yet twenty nineteen came along and I sort of
was in between writing records and the first sort of
(11:21):
first song came out came came to me, which was
which is the first single, and I born in a
collaborator and a fellow little Tonian, a rapper and Todel
Mardi teacher named Commy, and so they, yeah, they helped
me grace very graciously to put the album together and
(11:44):
then yeah, we just sort of wrote over the next
few years and then recorded at the end of twenty
twenty three, and now we're we're releasing Did.
Speaker 2 (11:51):
You find it funny that Jack completely mispronunciated the name
of Marlon's album there like he said it in a
way it was like, I'm aware here, I know what
your album is called and what it means.
Speaker 5 (12:08):
I'd actually pronounced it wrong to funny Ta WakaWaka. That
means the messy house, doesn't it?
Speaker 10 (12:13):
T weeker Wiko?
Speaker 6 (12:14):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, I thought it.
Speaker 5 (12:15):
Over study anyway.
Speaker 2 (12:17):
Sorry, sorry, Jack, I'm not laughing at you, I'm laughing
beside you.
Speaker 5 (12:22):
That has been news talks.
Speaker 2 (12:23):
You've been for the weekend, I'll be back here to
laugh beside some other hosts.
Speaker 1 (12:30):
Us talking talks it been for more from News Talk
said B. Listen live on air or online, and keep
our shows with you wherever you go with our podcast
on iHeartRadio
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