October 30, 2024 • 14 mins
FIRST WITH YESTERDAY'S NEWS (highlights from Wednesday on Newstalk ZB) Some Boils Are Better Left Unlanced/Certifying Yourself/Who Is This Woman Anyway?/Friday-ising Halloween
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Speaker 2 (00:23):
Hello, my beautiful beanies, and welcome to the bean for Thursday.
First of yesterday's news. I am Glen Hart, and we
are looking back at Wednesday self certifying what a big
talking point yesterday somebody who might not be allowed to talk,
as Candice owns. We'll get into that, and we'll also
(00:46):
get into Halloween. It was Halloween Eve yesterday, of course,
Halloween today before any of that COVID inquiries. Australia's got
the results of its first one back and yeah they
got it all wrong apparently, So there you go.
Speaker 3 (01:04):
Would you happily return to a level for lockdown tomorrow?
Would you happily keep your kids home from school and
wear a mask if the government told you? I wouldn't
be leaving to repeat our COVID experiment quickly, and neither
would most Australians. It turns out, the year long COVID
inquiry released yesterday found that, unsurprisingly quote, many of the
measures taken during COVID nineteen are unlikely to be accepted
(01:27):
by the population. Again, just thirty percent of Assies thought
the government did the right thing at the height of
the pandemic, and I expect that our COVID inquiries will
produce similar survey results if we're given the chance to answer.
We locked people down with no end in sight on
the advice of experts. Yes, they offered valid health advice,
but that advice was too often taken as gospel and
(01:49):
swallowed hootline and sinker to hell with the havoc. It
wreaked on it on most of us who sort of
blindly and obediently carried out their wishes. Think inflation, asset
price booms, wealth gaps, social isolation, social disunity, student under achievement.
We're talking about absenteeism, the morning youth anxiety, trust in
(02:11):
the media, trust in vaccines, I mean, you name it.
The question now is really one of trust. Will you
trust the same experts and politicians giving the same advice
and making the same decisions should another virus attack? It
seems the Aussies have emphatically answered no, and I suspect
(02:31):
most Kiwis will do the same.
Speaker 2 (02:33):
You get a sort of a feeling of PTSD when
these stories are discussed. I honestly feel like it's about
a year and a half two years there that I've
just completely repressed. And I know that you're not supposed
(02:54):
to do that with Tronmoey. You're supposed to have it
out in the open and talk about it and discuss
it and work through it. I feel like some things
maybe you just you just leave it there, We just
forget that it ever happened and move on, because I
think there's no question that everybody, you know, we have
(03:15):
a different way of dealing with these things in the future.
Speaker 1 (03:19):
Probably news talk has been.
Speaker 2 (03:22):
Speaking of doing things differently. Is getting the council to
come around and check that you're building your house properly?
Is that about to go the way the dodo? We
will certainly save everybody a lot of time and a
lot of expense. But at the same time, can you
(03:48):
trust every trading isn't it?
Speaker 4 (03:50):
Electricians can self certify there are very really any problems
with their work, very rarely, unlike builders, he said, So
does giving an industry the ability to stand on its
own too? Feed does giving an industry the ability to monitor,
(04:14):
monitor itself. The I suppose the right the trust to
monitor itself build a better quality of workmen. If you
know that your work's going to be checked, checked and
(04:35):
checked again, does it make you more careless? Perhaps not intentionally.
Why is it that sparkys can self certify and do
good work, whereas when you've got builders who are being
checked and checked again. David Clifton said, that's where you
(04:55):
find the problems, as being self determining and being able
to stand on your own two feet actually result and
fewer mistakes because there's you and only you that is
responsible for the work that's being delivered. If your work
has been checked by three or four different people, where
(05:19):
does the responsibility lie. Would self certification actually be really
really good for the industry. I'd be very interested to
hear from you. And if you have been in the
process of building a new home or getting a new home,
belt has it been five hundred and sixty nine days,
which just seems absolutely absurd A good move as far
(05:42):
as you're concerned. If you've even got grudging support from labor,
that would indicate to me that they're on the right track.
Speaker 2 (05:50):
I've got to confess that sometimes I do a bit
of electrical work around the house and I'm not qualified,
and it probably wouldn't be certified. Should I be saying
that in public way of try and sell my house?
And people have listened to this podcast? They probably have
because it highly as a secret podcast. Are we going,
(06:11):
oh no, this is the guy who put that plug
in the house is probably going to burn down. But
the thing is, that's how I know that I've got
it right. Let's watch it on and the house doesn't
burned down. So I said, I'm sort of self superfined.
There is the kind of thing that we're trying to stop.
How do we stop that? Oh that's tricky, all right.
(06:34):
So latest on the list of people that we don't.
Speaker 5 (06:42):
Want coming here because they say random stuff, as Kendice Owens,
she's a a nata.
Speaker 2 (06:56):
Yeah that before people matters. I don't think you are.
She's bananas and has some crazy Oh no, you can't
say PHASI has some extremely right wang and also I
think you could say conspiratorial views on life. But does
that mean that she's just not allowed to come here
(07:17):
and say those things, those random things.
Speaker 6 (07:19):
Turns out that people who want to shut other people
up just do not learn from history, do they. I
consider myself to be reasonably well informed, not because I'm
a particularly smart person, just because I have to be
for my job. I read the newspapers every day, I
have to listen to the radio, so I think I've
got a reasonably good idea of what's going on in
the country at any point in time. But I'm completely
(07:40):
forgotten that Candace Owens was coming to New Zealand until
this week, mainly thanks to Young Labor. So they're trying
to stop her from coming to New Zealand, aren't they.
They've published an open letter urging the government to ban her,
just like Australia did yesterday, which only served to remind
me I should probably go and read a little bit
about Candace Owens and some of her controversial stuff, so
I know exactly what the problem is, so Young Labour
(08:02):
can thank themselves for spreading her erectoric even more widely.
Reason they want to ban her is because they say,
we have an obligation to be protecting our communities from
that kind of rhetoric that empowers divisive movements. Have they
heard of the Internet? I mean, it's not borders that
stop bad ideas nowadays, is it? It just comes right over.
(08:25):
They also then go on to say that if the
government doesn't listen and decides to let Candice owens in anyway,
Can the government it, please, please, at least just make
sure there's heaps of security at her events quote to
ensure that when those people do choose to counter protest her,
they're not also met with violence. The bloody cheek of it.
I mean, the last time we had somebody controversial here,
(08:46):
which of course was Posey Parker, it wasn't Posy Parker's
protesters were the ones in court for violence was It
was the counter protesters. It was the counter protesters. It
was the young punk who turned up to protest Posy
Parker and then punched a grandmother in the face because
she was a supporter. It was the one who threw
the tomato juice on Posy Parkers. It don't be calling
(09:06):
for security to keep the counter protesters as the people
who are there to watch. The actual controversial thing that
needs to be kept safe from the counter protest is
by the looks of things anyway, Let's just at least
be honest about who poses the greatest threat here. Here's
some simple advice, because obviously it's too late this. I've
been reminded about Candice Owan's now we're all talking about it.
But here's some simple advice for the next time someone
(09:26):
controversial comes to New Zealand. Don't mention it because the
only people who will know and go to the event
are the people who have already consumed the content, the
people who are already fans. Now though, with the candae
Owan situation, a whole lot more people will probably go
and read some of her stuff. What an own goal again.
Speaker 2 (09:43):
Yeah exactly. I mean I only know who this person
is because I listen to a bunch of left wing
political podcasts out of the States. How many people in
New Zealand are doing that?
Speaker 5 (09:57):
Really?
Speaker 2 (09:59):
But now by trying to ban her, these people have
made this idiot news. I'm absolutely one hundred percent behind here.
They're on this one. You it's called a horrendous.
Speaker 1 (10:15):
Own goals news talk z.
Speaker 2 (10:17):
It been all right Halloween and this will be followed
quickly by fireworks and.
Speaker 5 (10:25):
Of course people going out that should be spand them
we should you can even amount free. We'll get in
from that discussion next week.
Speaker 2 (10:34):
I'm sure, but in the meantime it's Halloween, and of
course Marcus has got it hit in the sandlight. So
many other people have big spidence over hype.
Speaker 7 (10:44):
Now, Halloween's a great thing for talkback because people can
go and say, hey, it's not our culture. And people
get freaked out by Halloween for all sorts of reasons.
They get freaked out about it because there's people coming
onto their property dressed up, but they don't quite know
the etiquet, YadA YadA. Yeah, it feels not very New
Zealand because it feels that there's all sorts of personal
(11:07):
bubbles and personal space has been invaded, and things that
are happening that we didn't sign up for in life.
Speaker 2 (11:13):
Hang about.
Speaker 7 (11:13):
That's not my upbringing, that's not my children, it's new Well,
it's new Wish. And the supermarket is full of plastic
junk next week's landfall like you wouldn't believe. I mean, goodness,
gracious me. Surely the world's got enough plastic pumpkins anyway,
that's not my point. Or sure the world's got enough
(11:35):
bad candy, and that's not my point. My point is this,
tell me if I'm wrong. I sense watch out insert
grand statement here. I sense that as a event from
(11:57):
where I said, I don't reckon, it's catching on? Am
I right? I reckon? Kind of we gave after you know,
we got free trade with China, and we got the
warehouse and Brisker and Kmart and the one dollar stores,
and they've filled up with this stuff. But I reckon
the holidays, probably we're not the Holloway occasion. It doesn't
seem to be that big. Might have got the wrong
(12:20):
let me know, I just feel I know there's one
street in Auckland and Long Bay or tor Bay that
goes crazy for it, but I think everywhere else I'm
seeing it as been kind of a bit of a
dut a bit of a fizzer. I don't think anyone's
going around knocking on doors randomly, which is good and bad.
I think for most communities they have a Facebook page
(12:41):
and say, oh, we're not really into this, but we've
got to go to houses on three seven twelve. The
only people ever find out that they're enthusiastic about Halloween
of people that used to go to America on sort
of a American field scholarship and found it transformative and
been banging that drum for the last twenty years. Anyway,
I'm just curious to know if you think it's something
that's happening or not.
Speaker 2 (13:02):
I don't think it is my theory, Marcus is claiming
that it's done its dash. The weird thing about Halloween,
of course, is because it should be Friday eyes. You
know how they Monday eye some of the holidays but
not all of them, which is weird. They should Friday
eyes Halloween. It should only be on Friday night or
(13:22):
a Saturday night, because if it happens, I mean, nobody's
going trick or treating on a Tuesday night as they
did last year, and it would have been Monday night
the year before that. We've had a leap year this year,
so it's a Thursday night this year, so it'll be
slightly gaining momentum again. But you wait till next year.
(13:46):
Friday night, Saturday night. There'll be Halloween parties. The kids
will be out all night. That's all. That's where the
momentum is. Why do people want to stop people having fun?
I don't understand it. I ain't been hat Thanks for
having fun with me for fourteen minutes or so, and
(14:08):
we'll come back and you'll guarantee you up to another
qur of an hour of fun likeness tomorrow. It'll be
so fun.
Speaker 1 (14:16):
Us talk is talkings it been For more from News
Talk sed B. Listen live on air or online, and
keep our shows with you wherever you go with our
podcasts on iHeartRadio
You're listening to a podcast from News Talk said B
follow this and our wide range of podcasts now on iHeartRadio,
Used Talk sed be you Talk.
Speaker 2 (00:23):
Hello, my beautiful beanies, and welcome to the bean for Thursday.
First of yesterday's news. I am Glen Hart, and we
are looking back at Wednesday self certifying what a big
talking point yesterday somebody who might not be allowed to talk,
as Candice owns. We'll get into that, and we'll also
(00:46):
get into Halloween. It was Halloween Eve yesterday, of course,
Halloween today before any of that COVID inquiries. Australia's got
the results of its first one back and yeah they
got it all wrong apparently, So there you go.
Speaker 3 (01:04):
Would you happily return to a level for lockdown tomorrow?
Would you happily keep your kids home from school and
wear a mask if the government told you? I wouldn't
be leaving to repeat our COVID experiment quickly, and neither
would most Australians. It turns out, the year long COVID
inquiry released yesterday found that, unsurprisingly quote, many of the
measures taken during COVID nineteen are unlikely to be accepted
(01:27):
by the population. Again, just thirty percent of Assies thought
the government did the right thing at the height of
the pandemic, and I expect that our COVID inquiries will
produce similar survey results if we're given the chance to answer.
We locked people down with no end in sight on
the advice of experts. Yes, they offered valid health advice,
but that advice was too often taken as gospel and
(01:49):
swallowed hootline and sinker to hell with the havoc. It
wreaked on it on most of us who sort of
blindly and obediently carried out their wishes. Think inflation, asset
price booms, wealth gaps, social isolation, social disunity, student under achievement.
We're talking about absenteeism, the morning youth anxiety, trust in
(02:11):
the media, trust in vaccines, I mean, you name it.
The question now is really one of trust. Will you
trust the same experts and politicians giving the same advice
and making the same decisions should another virus attack? It
seems the Aussies have emphatically answered no, and I suspect
(02:31):
most Kiwis will do the same.
Speaker 2 (02:33):
You get a sort of a feeling of PTSD when
these stories are discussed. I honestly feel like it's about
a year and a half two years there that I've
just completely repressed. And I know that you're not supposed
(02:54):
to do that with Tronmoey. You're supposed to have it
out in the open and talk about it and discuss
it and work through it. I feel like some things
maybe you just you just leave it there, We just
forget that it ever happened and move on, because I
think there's no question that everybody, you know, we have
(03:15):
a different way of dealing with these things in the future.
Speaker 1 (03:19):
Probably news talk has been.
Speaker 2 (03:22):
Speaking of doing things differently. Is getting the council to
come around and check that you're building your house properly?
Is that about to go the way the dodo? We
will certainly save everybody a lot of time and a
lot of expense. But at the same time, can you
(03:48):
trust every trading isn't it?
Speaker 4 (03:50):
Electricians can self certify there are very really any problems
with their work, very rarely, unlike builders, he said, So
does giving an industry the ability to stand on its
own too? Feed does giving an industry the ability to monitor,
(04:14):
monitor itself. The I suppose the right the trust to
monitor itself build a better quality of workmen. If you
know that your work's going to be checked, checked and
(04:35):
checked again, does it make you more careless? Perhaps not intentionally.
Why is it that sparkys can self certify and do
good work, whereas when you've got builders who are being
checked and checked again. David Clifton said, that's where you
(04:55):
find the problems, as being self determining and being able
to stand on your own two feet actually result and
fewer mistakes because there's you and only you that is
responsible for the work that's being delivered. If your work
has been checked by three or four different people, where
(05:19):
does the responsibility lie. Would self certification actually be really
really good for the industry. I'd be very interested to
hear from you. And if you have been in the
process of building a new home or getting a new home,
belt has it been five hundred and sixty nine days,
which just seems absolutely absurd A good move as far
(05:42):
as you're concerned. If you've even got grudging support from labor,
that would indicate to me that they're on the right track.
Speaker 2 (05:50):
I've got to confess that sometimes I do a bit
of electrical work around the house and I'm not qualified,
and it probably wouldn't be certified. Should I be saying
that in public way of try and sell my house?
And people have listened to this podcast? They probably have
because it highly as a secret podcast. Are we going,
(06:11):
oh no, this is the guy who put that plug
in the house is probably going to burn down. But
the thing is, that's how I know that I've got
it right. Let's watch it on and the house doesn't
burned down. So I said, I'm sort of self superfined.
There is the kind of thing that we're trying to stop.
How do we stop that? Oh that's tricky, all right.
(06:34):
So latest on the list of people that we don't.
Speaker 5 (06:42):
Want coming here because they say random stuff, as Kendice Owens,
she's a a nata.
Speaker 2 (06:56):
Yeah that before people matters. I don't think you are.
She's bananas and has some crazy Oh no, you can't
say PHASI has some extremely right wang and also I
think you could say conspiratorial views on life. But does
that mean that she's just not allowed to come here
(07:17):
and say those things, those random things.
Speaker 6 (07:19):
Turns out that people who want to shut other people
up just do not learn from history, do they. I
consider myself to be reasonably well informed, not because I'm
a particularly smart person, just because I have to be
for my job. I read the newspapers every day, I
have to listen to the radio, so I think I've
got a reasonably good idea of what's going on in
the country at any point in time. But I'm completely
(07:40):
forgotten that Candace Owens was coming to New Zealand until
this week, mainly thanks to Young Labor. So they're trying
to stop her from coming to New Zealand, aren't they.
They've published an open letter urging the government to ban her,
just like Australia did yesterday, which only served to remind
me I should probably go and read a little bit
about Candace Owens and some of her controversial stuff, so
I know exactly what the problem is, so Young Labour
(08:02):
can thank themselves for spreading her erectoric even more widely.
Reason they want to ban her is because they say,
we have an obligation to be protecting our communities from
that kind of rhetoric that empowers divisive movements. Have they
heard of the Internet? I mean, it's not borders that
stop bad ideas nowadays, is it? It just comes right over.
(08:25):
They also then go on to say that if the
government doesn't listen and decides to let Candice owens in anyway,
Can the government it, please, please, at least just make
sure there's heaps of security at her events quote to
ensure that when those people do choose to counter protest her,
they're not also met with violence. The bloody cheek of it.
I mean, the last time we had somebody controversial here,
(08:46):
which of course was Posey Parker, it wasn't Posy Parker's
protesters were the ones in court for violence was It
was the counter protesters. It was the counter protesters. It
was the young punk who turned up to protest Posy
Parker and then punched a grandmother in the face because
she was a supporter. It was the one who threw
the tomato juice on Posy Parkers. It don't be calling
(09:06):
for security to keep the counter protesters as the people
who are there to watch. The actual controversial thing that
needs to be kept safe from the counter protest is
by the looks of things anyway, Let's just at least
be honest about who poses the greatest threat here. Here's
some simple advice, because obviously it's too late this. I've
been reminded about Candice Owan's now we're all talking about it.
But here's some simple advice for the next time someone
(09:26):
controversial comes to New Zealand. Don't mention it because the
only people who will know and go to the event
are the people who have already consumed the content, the
people who are already fans. Now though, with the candae
Owan situation, a whole lot more people will probably go
and read some of her stuff. What an own goal again.
Speaker 2 (09:43):
Yeah exactly. I mean I only know who this person
is because I listen to a bunch of left wing
political podcasts out of the States. How many people in
New Zealand are doing that?
Speaker 5 (09:57):
Really?
Speaker 2 (09:59):
But now by trying to ban her, these people have
made this idiot news. I'm absolutely one hundred percent behind here.
They're on this one. You it's called a horrendous.
Speaker 1 (10:15):
Own goals news talk z.
Speaker 2 (10:17):
It been all right Halloween and this will be followed
quickly by fireworks and.
Speaker 5 (10:25):
Of course people going out that should be spand them
we should you can even amount free. We'll get in
from that discussion next week.
Speaker 2 (10:34):
I'm sure, but in the meantime it's Halloween, and of
course Marcus has got it hit in the sandlight. So
many other people have big spidence over hype.
Speaker 7 (10:44):
Now, Halloween's a great thing for talkback because people can
go and say, hey, it's not our culture. And people
get freaked out by Halloween for all sorts of reasons.
They get freaked out about it because there's people coming
onto their property dressed up, but they don't quite know
the etiquet, YadA YadA. Yeah, it feels not very New
Zealand because it feels that there's all sorts of personal
(11:07):
bubbles and personal space has been invaded, and things that
are happening that we didn't sign up for in life.
Speaker 2 (11:13):
Hang about.
Speaker 7 (11:13):
That's not my upbringing, that's not my children, it's new Well,
it's new Wish. And the supermarket is full of plastic
junk next week's landfall like you wouldn't believe. I mean, goodness,
gracious me. Surely the world's got enough plastic pumpkins anyway,
that's not my point. Or sure the world's got enough
(11:35):
bad candy, and that's not my point. My point is this,
tell me if I'm wrong. I sense watch out insert
grand statement here. I sense that as a event from
(11:57):
where I said, I don't reckon, it's catching on? Am
I right? I reckon? Kind of we gave after you know,
we got free trade with China, and we got the
warehouse and Brisker and Kmart and the one dollar stores,
and they've filled up with this stuff. But I reckon
the holidays, probably we're not the Holloway occasion. It doesn't
seem to be that big. Might have got the wrong
(12:20):
let me know, I just feel I know there's one
street in Auckland and Long Bay or tor Bay that
goes crazy for it, but I think everywhere else I'm
seeing it as been kind of a bit of a
dut a bit of a fizzer. I don't think anyone's
going around knocking on doors randomly, which is good and bad.
I think for most communities they have a Facebook page
(12:41):
and say, oh, we're not really into this, but we've
got to go to houses on three seven twelve. The
only people ever find out that they're enthusiastic about Halloween
of people that used to go to America on sort
of a American field scholarship and found it transformative and
been banging that drum for the last twenty years. Anyway,
I'm just curious to know if you think it's something
that's happening or not.
Speaker 2 (13:02):
I don't think it is my theory, Marcus is claiming
that it's done its dash. The weird thing about Halloween,
of course, is because it should be Friday eyes. You
know how they Monday eye some of the holidays but
not all of them, which is weird. They should Friday
eyes Halloween. It should only be on Friday night or
(13:22):
a Saturday night, because if it happens, I mean, nobody's
going trick or treating on a Tuesday night as they
did last year, and it would have been Monday night
the year before that. We've had a leap year this year,
so it's a Thursday night this year, so it'll be
slightly gaining momentum again. But you wait till next year.
(13:46):
Friday night, Saturday night. There'll be Halloween parties. The kids
will be out all night. That's all. That's where the
momentum is. Why do people want to stop people having fun?
I don't understand it. I ain't been hat Thanks for
having fun with me for fourteen minutes or so, and
(14:08):
we'll come back and you'll guarantee you up to another
qur of an hour of fun likeness tomorrow. It'll be
so fun.
Speaker 1 (14:16):
Us talk is talkings it been For more from News
Talk sed B. Listen live on air or online, and
keep our shows with you wherever you go with our
podcasts on iHeartRadio
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