May 28, 2025 • 11 mins
FIRST WITH YESTERDAY'S NEWS (highlights from Wednesday on Newstalk ZB) Kids Will Be Kids... But We Should Still Probably Try and Keep Them from Killing Each Other/Why I'd Never Build
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Speaker 1 (00:09):
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Speaker 2 (00:24):
Hello, my beautiful beanies, and welcome to the bean for Thursday,
first of yesterday's news. I am Glenheart and we are
looking back at Wednesday. Now, when you build your own home,
how satisfied whether it are you not very apparently or
it's certainly less than you used to be before any
of that? The run it straight controversy is, you know,
(00:47):
it's quite serious because somebody's died. Of course.
Speaker 3 (00:51):
The next thing to come along was skin art, where
young people paint sunscreen on some parts of their bodies
and burn the rest in the sun.
Speaker 4 (00:59):
It only takes one bad sunburn before the age of
eighteen to double your risk of melanoma, and if you
have more than five sunburns over your lifetime, you have
an eighty percent chance of getting a skin cancer.
Speaker 3 (01:12):
This American family lost their son to the infamous blackout challenge,
where kids choke themselves all their friends for fun.
Speaker 5 (01:20):
Our son, teens, was fourteen years old and passed away
due to one of these social media challenges.
Speaker 6 (01:27):
Tent was a great kid, he had a lot going
for him, many friends, very popular. His friends have been
in shark like everybody.
Speaker 4 (01:37):
Else in our family.
Speaker 3 (01:38):
Since the beginning of time, teenagers, especially boys, have played bullrush,
drink to excess, driven cars way too fast. Frontal lobes
don't develop properly until the age of twenty five. That's
when reason overtakes risk in the brain and your behavior changes.
If you ask me honestly if society can ever prevent
these tragedies from happening again, I would say, look at
(02:01):
the numbers, look at the trends, and look at the
social media algorithms. Of course we can't. But more more
than that, that overwhelming urge when you are young, to
experiment with danger, to push the boundaries in life, to
just goof off with your mates, That urge has existed
since the dawn of time and doesn't appear to be
(02:21):
going anywhere in a hurry. All we can do, really is,
individuals is offer us sincere condolences to this poor family
and hope that others will learn a lesson from his death.
Speaker 2 (02:32):
Yeah, I've been surprised how many newss B hosts have
basically said, oh, you know, boys will we boys and
don't really want to see any stronger action taken to
stop boys being boys. News talk z been I'm not
sure if Kerry is one of those hosts. Let's find out.
Speaker 6 (02:53):
So if you're mindful of it, then run it straight
should be condemned up right. It is not a sport.
Sport involves an element of skill. There are rules, there
are certain ways of doing things. You learn how to
tackle safely. If you run straight at other players in
rugby league aiming to knock them out, you're punished, you
(03:17):
send off the field, you banned from the game for
a couple of games. Sports administrators and players are trying
to mitigate the risks that Richie referred to that they
now know come with playing a contact sport. They're not
trying to exacerbate the dangers. Where is the discipline, the training,
the skill level, the entertainment factor involve two idiots running
(03:43):
as hard and as fast as they can trying to
do each other damage. There were a couple of texts
on this from last Thursday. We touched on it last Thursday.
Offs look at what woke people in this country since
they banned bull rush and scrag at school. Run it
(04:05):
straight as an organized, controlled tackle practice safer than some
of the tackles we see in rugby games. That was
one text Kerrie, rugby costs one hundred and forty million
a year. Run it straight right now, zero dollars. That
was only six days ago. What a difference a week makes.
Speaker 2 (04:24):
Yes, it's I feel like this is always going to happen,
and yet now it's happened to some people haven't really
modified their opinions.
Speaker 1 (04:35):
Us talk side now.
Speaker 2 (04:36):
What about here that everybody was talking about it?
Speaker 7 (04:39):
Now?
Speaker 5 (04:40):
Look, I think the Prime Minister has actually nailed it
when he says the solution to dealing with this run
it nonsense is just to take personal responsibility. I think
that's the only way. I mean, we can't ban it,
can we. I know people want to appeal to a
higher authority to come and fix the situation for us
so that no more young men die are necessarily from
running into each other and knocking their brains. But let's
be honest about it. A ban is not going to
(05:01):
fix anything. I mean, what are you actually going to ban?
Are you going to ban running at each other? In
which case, what do we do about rugby league or
ball rush or football and all of those games people
run at each other. Are you going to ban venues
from hosting run at style events? I mean that could work,
You could effectively ban them. But all it's going to
happen is that the people who want to do these
(05:21):
things are going to take their events elsewhere, and maybe
they're going to take them to a backyard. And that
is no protection, is it? As we've learned in Parmester North,
are we going to three threaten maybe legal action against
someone who organizes a run at style event, in which
case won't they just simply change the name, will tweak
the rules a little bit so they can call it
a new game and says that's actually not run it,
that's something else altogether. Let's face it, you cannot legal
(05:44):
action your way out of something like this, right. People
always going to find a way to do something risky
if they want to, and they do want to, especially
young men, They want to take risks. They've done it forever.
They've played wrestling games, they've jumped off high things into pools,
they've driven cars too fast. Now they run at each other.
You can't ban every single risk that's out. They're the
only thing that you can actually do here is to
(06:06):
take personal responsibility for yourself and talk to your young
people and hope that they listen.
Speaker 4 (06:12):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (06:12):
No, you can't fan every risk, that's true, but some
risks are just you do ban, don't you. It's like
you don't just let people across the road, like you
just don't let people walk along the motorway for example.
(06:33):
That's it's not allowed. I mean if people do do
it from time to time, but yeah, it's not allowed.
So I think something as stupid as this should not
be allowed. That's all I'm saying. Right time to move
(06:55):
on to this survey that's come out with people not
very satisfied with their new houses. I was actually surprised
at how satisfied they were, because I don't know anybody
who's built a house who hasn't had to get well,
the whole thing has just been a completely excruciating experience
(07:15):
from wow go, and then they've definitely had to get
pile back that fix up all the stuff that isn't
working or has fallen to pieces as soon as they've
moved in.
Speaker 8 (07:23):
Hey, Matt and Tyler, it sounds as though Hayden he
was the plaster that called up just before the break
who said that he never had a callback ever in
his entire career of new builds yep, or any of
the plastering does Hi, Matt and Tyler. It sounds as
though Hayden's talking through a hole in his ass. Oh okay,
thought he had quite a nice voice. I'm a painter
in christ Church and you just have to get the
(07:45):
job done one way or another. There'll always be callbacks
and damage, and we just go back and get it done.
It's okay, okay.
Speaker 7 (07:52):
Well, funny you mentioned that you're a painter, dear texture,
because painters were the traders who had the most callbacks,
and the I'll do it in order of traders who
get the most callbacks, So painters far and away the
ones who need to be called back in.
Speaker 8 (08:07):
Yeah, that's because other callbacks them making a mess when
they get called back, and then people putting their furniture
in and with.
Speaker 7 (08:13):
Sparky's making a mess, and then the Chippyes, so next
to carpenters, then electricians, plumbers, the glaziers, Tyler's rufers. Roofers
are the best.
Speaker 8 (08:23):
Yeah, roofers are the best. As a painter, I bet
it's our trade that gets called back the most.
Speaker 3 (08:29):
One time.
Speaker 8 (08:30):
This is due to the dirty sparkys and plumbers, the
tiler's or the carpet layers marking the paint when they're
doing their their trade. She is pool. He didn't call
them dirty. I added that bit a spice. He just said,
I bet it's these sparkis and plumbers. Yeah, okay, so
this is firing up now, Yeah, yeah, we've had.
Speaker 2 (08:45):
A bit of that. You know, I'm assuming that it
is trade's tuning on trade ees. Do we need to
get them to run straight at each other to sort
this out? Come on trade ees that do that? Does
that would annoy me? If I would never build a house,
is it's just too many every day you've got to
(09:06):
make decisions about things. I could only even buy a
house that was already built, and then my only decision
is do I like this house or do I not
like this house? Whereas when you're building, when you could
to decide every single little thing. But I could never
do that. But certainly I would hope that everybody's sort
of on the same team and wants the house to
be good at the end, rather than various different factions
(09:29):
come along and break other bits of it while they
are doing their.
Speaker 1 (09:32):
Bit news talk it beam and yet.
Speaker 2 (09:36):
We keep talking about this. We talked about it well
into the night with terms.
Speaker 3 (09:40):
When I think of the work that we've done, and
I mean it was great. I think the only time
that we were like.
Speaker 9 (09:45):
Please come back is when when we had a deck
put in and part of the deck started to kind
of crack along, you know, a bit of a groove
opened up in the wood, and then the phone call
gets made. But you know, we haven't had personally any
horror stories. I wonder if some of the callback is
(10:07):
stuff which which is not that it's a quote unquote
defect as described in the story. It's more of a
there's just an adjustment that needs to be made.
Speaker 2 (10:18):
Well, Like I say, maybe I just know more people
who feel more cheaply perhaps than some of the other
people talking about it on his doors. There be I
don't know if that's true. I just feel like, yeah, everybody,
I've never heard anybody doing it and going ah, just
(10:41):
loved it, so happy with it. I mean that's eventually
they're happy with it more often than not. But there
aren't too many people I know who to do it again.
Please do this again? Though, And by this I mean
the podcast. It's not a new build, of course. We've
(11:01):
been doing this for three two hundred and eighty six
episodes and will be back for two hundred and eighty
seven tomorrow.
Speaker 9 (11:08):
Then used Talking Talking zi Bean.
Speaker 1 (11:13):
For more from News Talk st B. Listen live on
air or online, and keep our shows with you wherever
you go with our podcasts on iHeartRadio
You're listening to a podcast from news Talk said Bee
follow this and our wide range of podcasts now on iHeartRadio,
Used Talk said, be you Talk.
Speaker 2 (00:24):
Hello, my beautiful beanies, and welcome to the bean for Thursday,
first of yesterday's news. I am Glenheart and we are
looking back at Wednesday. Now, when you build your own home,
how satisfied whether it are you not very apparently or
it's certainly less than you used to be before any
of that? The run it straight controversy is, you know,
(00:47):
it's quite serious because somebody's died. Of course.
Speaker 3 (00:51):
The next thing to come along was skin art, where
young people paint sunscreen on some parts of their bodies
and burn the rest in the sun.
Speaker 4 (00:59):
It only takes one bad sunburn before the age of
eighteen to double your risk of melanoma, and if you
have more than five sunburns over your lifetime, you have
an eighty percent chance of getting a skin cancer.
Speaker 3 (01:12):
This American family lost their son to the infamous blackout challenge,
where kids choke themselves all their friends for fun.
Speaker 5 (01:20):
Our son, teens, was fourteen years old and passed away
due to one of these social media challenges.
Speaker 6 (01:27):
Tent was a great kid, he had a lot going
for him, many friends, very popular. His friends have been
in shark like everybody.
Speaker 4 (01:37):
Else in our family.
Speaker 3 (01:38):
Since the beginning of time, teenagers, especially boys, have played bullrush,
drink to excess, driven cars way too fast. Frontal lobes
don't develop properly until the age of twenty five. That's
when reason overtakes risk in the brain and your behavior changes.
If you ask me honestly if society can ever prevent
these tragedies from happening again, I would say, look at
(02:01):
the numbers, look at the trends, and look at the
social media algorithms. Of course we can't. But more more
than that, that overwhelming urge when you are young, to
experiment with danger, to push the boundaries in life, to
just goof off with your mates, That urge has existed
since the dawn of time and doesn't appear to be
(02:21):
going anywhere in a hurry. All we can do, really is,
individuals is offer us sincere condolences to this poor family
and hope that others will learn a lesson from his death.
Speaker 2 (02:32):
Yeah, I've been surprised how many newss B hosts have
basically said, oh, you know, boys will we boys and
don't really want to see any stronger action taken to
stop boys being boys. News talk z been I'm not
sure if Kerry is one of those hosts. Let's find out.
Speaker 6 (02:53):
So if you're mindful of it, then run it straight
should be condemned up right. It is not a sport.
Sport involves an element of skill. There are rules, there
are certain ways of doing things. You learn how to
tackle safely. If you run straight at other players in
rugby league aiming to knock them out, you're punished, you
(03:17):
send off the field, you banned from the game for
a couple of games. Sports administrators and players are trying
to mitigate the risks that Richie referred to that they
now know come with playing a contact sport. They're not
trying to exacerbate the dangers. Where is the discipline, the training,
the skill level, the entertainment factor involve two idiots running
(03:43):
as hard and as fast as they can trying to
do each other damage. There were a couple of texts
on this from last Thursday. We touched on it last Thursday.
Offs look at what woke people in this country since
they banned bull rush and scrag at school. Run it
(04:05):
straight as an organized, controlled tackle practice safer than some
of the tackles we see in rugby games. That was
one text Kerrie, rugby costs one hundred and forty million
a year. Run it straight right now, zero dollars. That
was only six days ago. What a difference a week makes.
Speaker 2 (04:24):
Yes, it's I feel like this is always going to happen,
and yet now it's happened to some people haven't really
modified their opinions.
Speaker 1 (04:35):
Us talk side now.
Speaker 2 (04:36):
What about here that everybody was talking about it?
Speaker 7 (04:39):
Now?
Speaker 5 (04:40):
Look, I think the Prime Minister has actually nailed it
when he says the solution to dealing with this run
it nonsense is just to take personal responsibility. I think
that's the only way. I mean, we can't ban it,
can we. I know people want to appeal to a
higher authority to come and fix the situation for us
so that no more young men die are necessarily from
running into each other and knocking their brains. But let's
be honest about it. A ban is not going to
(05:01):
fix anything. I mean, what are you actually going to ban?
Are you going to ban running at each other? In
which case, what do we do about rugby league or
ball rush or football and all of those games people
run at each other. Are you going to ban venues
from hosting run at style events? I mean that could work,
You could effectively ban them. But all it's going to
happen is that the people who want to do these
(05:21):
things are going to take their events elsewhere, and maybe
they're going to take them to a backyard. And that
is no protection, is it? As we've learned in Parmester North,
are we going to three threaten maybe legal action against
someone who organizes a run at style event, in which
case won't they just simply change the name, will tweak
the rules a little bit so they can call it
a new game and says that's actually not run it,
that's something else altogether. Let's face it, you cannot legal
(05:44):
action your way out of something like this, right. People
always going to find a way to do something risky
if they want to, and they do want to, especially
young men, They want to take risks. They've done it forever.
They've played wrestling games, they've jumped off high things into pools,
they've driven cars too fast. Now they run at each other.
You can't ban every single risk that's out. They're the
only thing that you can actually do here is to
(06:06):
take personal responsibility for yourself and talk to your young
people and hope that they listen.
Speaker 4 (06:12):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (06:12):
No, you can't fan every risk, that's true, but some
risks are just you do ban, don't you. It's like
you don't just let people across the road, like you
just don't let people walk along the motorway for example.
(06:33):
That's it's not allowed. I mean if people do do
it from time to time, but yeah, it's not allowed.
So I think something as stupid as this should not
be allowed. That's all I'm saying. Right time to move
(06:55):
on to this survey that's come out with people not
very satisfied with their new houses. I was actually surprised
at how satisfied they were, because I don't know anybody
who's built a house who hasn't had to get well,
the whole thing has just been a completely excruciating experience
(07:15):
from wow go, and then they've definitely had to get
pile back that fix up all the stuff that isn't
working or has fallen to pieces as soon as they've
moved in.
Speaker 8 (07:23):
Hey, Matt and Tyler, it sounds as though Hayden he
was the plaster that called up just before the break
who said that he never had a callback ever in
his entire career of new builds yep, or any of
the plastering does Hi, Matt and Tyler. It sounds as
though Hayden's talking through a hole in his ass. Oh okay,
thought he had quite a nice voice. I'm a painter
in christ Church and you just have to get the
(07:45):
job done one way or another. There'll always be callbacks
and damage, and we just go back and get it done.
It's okay, okay.
Speaker 7 (07:52):
Well, funny you mentioned that you're a painter, dear texture,
because painters were the traders who had the most callbacks,
and the I'll do it in order of traders who
get the most callbacks, So painters far and away the
ones who need to be called back in.
Speaker 8 (08:07):
Yeah, that's because other callbacks them making a mess when
they get called back, and then people putting their furniture
in and with.
Speaker 7 (08:13):
Sparky's making a mess, and then the Chippyes, so next
to carpenters, then electricians, plumbers, the glaziers, Tyler's rufers. Roofers
are the best.
Speaker 8 (08:23):
Yeah, roofers are the best. As a painter, I bet
it's our trade that gets called back the most.
Speaker 3 (08:29):
One time.
Speaker 8 (08:30):
This is due to the dirty sparkys and plumbers, the
tiler's or the carpet layers marking the paint when they're
doing their their trade. She is pool. He didn't call
them dirty. I added that bit a spice. He just said,
I bet it's these sparkis and plumbers. Yeah, okay, so
this is firing up now, Yeah, yeah, we've had.
Speaker 2 (08:45):
A bit of that. You know, I'm assuming that it
is trade's tuning on trade ees. Do we need to
get them to run straight at each other to sort
this out? Come on trade ees that do that? Does
that would annoy me? If I would never build a house,
is it's just too many every day you've got to
(09:06):
make decisions about things. I could only even buy a
house that was already built, and then my only decision
is do I like this house or do I not
like this house? Whereas when you're building, when you could
to decide every single little thing. But I could never
do that. But certainly I would hope that everybody's sort
of on the same team and wants the house to
be good at the end, rather than various different factions
(09:29):
come along and break other bits of it while they
are doing their.
Speaker 1 (09:32):
Bit news talk it beam and yet.
Speaker 2 (09:36):
We keep talking about this. We talked about it well
into the night with terms.
Speaker 3 (09:40):
When I think of the work that we've done, and
I mean it was great. I think the only time
that we were like.
Speaker 9 (09:45):
Please come back is when when we had a deck
put in and part of the deck started to kind
of crack along, you know, a bit of a groove
opened up in the wood, and then the phone call
gets made. But you know, we haven't had personally any
horror stories. I wonder if some of the callback is
(10:07):
stuff which which is not that it's a quote unquote
defect as described in the story. It's more of a
there's just an adjustment that needs to be made.
Speaker 2 (10:18):
Well, Like I say, maybe I just know more people
who feel more cheaply perhaps than some of the other
people talking about it on his doors. There be I
don't know if that's true. I just feel like, yeah, everybody,
I've never heard anybody doing it and going ah, just
(10:41):
loved it, so happy with it. I mean that's eventually
they're happy with it more often than not. But there
aren't too many people I know who to do it again.
Please do this again? Though, And by this I mean
the podcast. It's not a new build, of course. We've
(11:01):
been doing this for three two hundred and eighty six
episodes and will be back for two hundred and eighty
seven tomorrow.
Speaker 9 (11:08):
Then used Talking Talking zi Bean.
Speaker 1 (11:13):
For more from News Talk st B. Listen live on
air or online, and keep our shows with you wherever
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