December 18, 2025 • 15 mins
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Speaker 1 (00:09):
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Speaker 2 (00:20):
Used Talk Said Talk.
Speaker 3 (00:24):
Hello, I'm a beautiful beanies and welcome to the Bean
for Friday. First with yesterday's news, the final Bean of
the year, Ultimate Bean. So we're going to keep it
nice and light and Christmas ey. After we talk about
the Mexican in sentence, of course, and how terrible sports
(00:49):
organizations are at PR and how useless awkward transporters. Then
after all that, we'll get to the Christmas Quiz with Marcus.
But before all of that stuff, what could make us
feel more Christmas Y than thinking about next year's election?
Speaker 4 (01:04):
Oh, for God's sake.
Speaker 5 (01:06):
I gave you specific questions about spending and debt and
all sorts, and she wouldn't answer. Now, to be fair,
she did criticize National's tax cuts, and that was the
moving of the thresholds and reinstating the rebates for landlords.
Now they're kind of tax cuts, and yet they're not.
But they had the effect of reducing government revenue by
(01:27):
fourteen billion dollars, fourteen billion that could have been used
to repay the debt or build infrastructure if the government
wanted to, or they could have just blown it anyway.
Fourteen billion. Now, look, the thresholds were morally wrong, and
I agree with resetting them. They were giving government and
automatic tax rise due to wage inflation. John Key loved it.
But changing them in a time of economic downturn, when
(01:51):
your revenue is reducing anyway, well that's a self inflicted
wound on your books, isn't it. But they had promised
them in the election, and at the time they called
them a tool against the rise and the cost of living.
But you know that that's kind of slogan airing as well.
That's no better than Barbara Edmonds. So it was a
slogan to get votes. And I don't know if National
(02:11):
knew that purposely reducing their revenue was unsustainable. Slashing their
own revenue undid all the work they did over the
last two years cutting spending. But if they did know that,
that was possibly a piece of economic foolishness. But it
was a good slogan and got them votes. And this
is what worries me the most about this country and
pretty much all its politicians. They will say anything to
(02:33):
get votes, and they care more about keeping their jobs
than making the country better.
Speaker 3 (02:38):
He knows that's not just unique to New Zealand, right,
that's politicians everywhere.
Speaker 4 (02:43):
That's politics. How's he come this far in life.
Speaker 3 (02:50):
Without big about out Its will be a long year
for advocates, the year who are still feel like the
last election only just happened. I believe we're thinking about
another election already.
Speaker 4 (03:03):
News Talk Zeth been right.
Speaker 3 (03:06):
Everybody's up in arms about the Mexican sentence. I wonder
how many of those people played those attentions and what
people how they get sentence Usually similar things pretty high profile,
this one isn't it.
Speaker 2 (03:23):
He may get a ten percent uplift because he's in
a position of power and authority. However, on the other
side that the discounts come in because it wasn't of
any physical abuse. It was purely a porn addiction and
other addictions to other things that we won't name. So
(03:44):
I think when a couple of people rang before and
completely lambasted him and said, oh, he should be locked up,
White's every well. I would agree we could lock him
up along with all the others in the same boat
as him, but only if they could lock him up
at somewhere like Roliston Timatimer Sex Unit, where they would
get some real psychological help. They would be receiving proper
(04:10):
care and attention to deal with their addiction, and then
released at the appropriate time when it's felt that they
are in a place to be a good, healthy individual,
not just a set while you've got five years. It's
not about that. It's about addictions. I've had several boys
(04:30):
over the last ten years who I worked without the
prison system underage and they probably did ram raids and
everything else, and they've done arm robberies, but the underlying
thing was addiction to memphetamin.
Speaker 3 (04:43):
So it was Russell calling into the afternoon show yesterday.
I seem to be suggesting that.
Speaker 4 (04:51):
Present as.
Speaker 3 (04:54):
There to help rehabilitate people and make them try and
make them to normal functioning people in society.
Speaker 4 (05:02):
Crazy idea, do you talk. It's been a year of.
Speaker 3 (05:08):
Weird stuff going on and sporting organizations in New Zealand, Hasia,
the PR machines. I just know, from the production side
of a radio show, very difficult dealing with some of
these organizations because the PR machine seems to be there
(05:31):
solely to justify its own existence and to stop you
getting anywhere near any of the people who are making
any of the decisions, or, of course, in things like
Netpal's case, anywhere near the people who just didn't make
any decisions.
Speaker 4 (05:45):
I think Ryan was a bit prestbrated by this as well.
Speaker 6 (05:47):
For the Kansas City Chiefs, they've won a few Super
Bowls recently of late, and now they're not even going
to make the playoffs. So he's upset. Obviously doesn't want
to talk to pesky journos, and I get that. I
understand that because they're athletes, they're emotional, they're up and
down like a yo yo. But when something goes down
(06:07):
in the business of sport, in my view, you should
front it in the same way as a regular company
CEO or a politician would. The fans are the voters,
the shareholders, and they deserve some respect. Respect is shown
through communication, and right now they are getting the corporate
equivalent of a middle finger. And all of this is
(06:30):
made worse by the fact that this is what got
them into the mess to begin with with Dame Knowles.
They didn't front. When they did, they didn't say anything,
and then the mood reached fever pitched in almost every
single Silver fern, whodever donned a bib came out and
had their say through their five cents into the bucket.
Then the government steps in. Then finally things changed. One
(06:55):
of the reasons I quite like netbull in fact that
one of the reasons I love netball and watching it
and following it as a sport is because of the
straight up hard as nail's personalities that tend to dominate it.
They're no nonsense, They straight up up the guts and
I think management ought to take a leaf out of
their books also.
Speaker 4 (07:15):
And it's funny, you know how.
Speaker 3 (07:18):
You know rugby and netball seem to be big things
here in New Zealand. Of course there's such minor sports
on the scale of things, and yet the people who
run them seem to think that they're so bloody important,
But really they're kind of like niche minor sports on
(07:39):
the on the scale of things.
Speaker 4 (07:42):
As far as the world's concerned. I mean, if the
if the rest of the world.
Speaker 3 (07:49):
Knew how much angst things was happening over something that
they barely even heard of and probably never watched, they'd
be laughing. Then has this been the sort of a happy, cuddly,
feel good christmasy sort of podas.
Speaker 4 (08:06):
Should we have a have a laugh at Awkward's expense.
Speaker 3 (08:11):
Yeah, it's funny watching them try to do things like
get to work or go shopping.
Speaker 7 (08:16):
The New York Subway open in nineteen oh four, in
Paris's metro a few years earlier in nineteen hundred, so
it's taken us a hot minute to get with the program.
Even allowing for economies of scale. People will use public
transport if it's efficient and it's safe and it's going.
They're not going to use it when it's shut. We're
(08:38):
seeing increasing numbers of people choosing other modes of transport
other than the car. According to the latest AAA survey,
they expect people who belong to AA to love their cars,
and they do. Ninety seven percent of the seven thousand
members who responded drove in the four weeks before taking
the survey, but sixty percent also walked where they needed
(09:00):
to go, fifteen percent had cycled, fifteen percent had busted,
and six percent had hopped on a train. Imagine how
many more there would be if we did have an
effective public transport system that was actually running.
Speaker 4 (09:17):
I think Carrie also forgot there. It's going to be.
Speaker 3 (09:22):
Economic as well. It's going to make economic sense. I'm
not going to do think something is more expensive than
driving my car to work. Although that's a dangerous thing
to say, because then they just make driving your car
to work more expensive.
Speaker 4 (09:38):
Don't they. Oh well, used talk been Okay, Here it
is the Christmas quiz.
Speaker 3 (09:46):
This is what you've been waiting for, although it sounded
like you might have had to wait a little while
with Marcus last night.
Speaker 8 (09:54):
There will be a quiz tonight, and the quiz I
think could be quite good. And the quiz, like all
good things, happened organically. I would start telling Dan that
should be in the quiz, and that was things we
learned from the show this year. So if you're someone
(10:16):
that listens a lot, you might get a few of
the questions correct. There's fifty one questions, and you will
need a bit of paper and a biro and you'll
need to write one to fifty one, or we could.
Speaker 4 (10:35):
Do how you like.
Speaker 8 (10:36):
Actually, but I will read all the questions out, and
then I will read out all the questions and answers subsequently.
Some of these questions you could discover the answers for online.
Some of them you couldn't I would prefer that you didn't,
but you know, how would you know these days what
(10:59):
people are doing. If I was doing a radio quiz,
I wouldn't cheat, So I'm asking you don't, But if
you do, it's not the end of the world. But
I'd rather than you didn't bring up and tell me
the school you got because at the end of the
shows that I'd like to appoint a champion, and for
that champion, there will be a trophy. And I'm not
(11:26):
sure what the trophy will be, but it will be
engraved and you will have that for a year. All
the stuff I'm making up on the trot what that
trophy is, I'm not entirely sure. I have a look
at my travels around some of the second hand shops
are on trade me and see what I can find.
But it will be something that could have the pride
(11:46):
of place in your room room and every year a
subsequent person that wins will get the trophy. So if
you cheat, then that's going to be haunting for you
because that trophy will be in your room for a
year and be staring down at you. It'll be like
(12:08):
an edgarn and Poe short story, The Beating Heart that
you will know if you have cheated, and you will
feel terrible and the terrifying begging heart but you'll hear
will be your own. I think it's how the ed
grollm posty goes. So you don't cheat, or if you
(12:31):
do cheat, don't bring up and tell what your score is.
That's the way it's going to work. So that's going
to be the quiz. Yeah, I'll enter it myself and
I will read out. I will write down answers myself.
I think that's the way it's going to be.
Speaker 3 (12:53):
It's funny with AI these days being sort of integrated
into everything that you do, because he was talking about
a biro and a piece of paper, but really, I
mean a lot of people don't do biros and pieces
paper anymore. It'll be on a tablet or on the
computer on their phone and AI, I would imagine, we'll
(13:18):
answer a lot of their questions as they type them in.
It'll just there'll be a little promptly and it'll just automatically,
so they'll they'll be cheating without even meaning to. That's
the trouble when you put the robots in charge. You
see the other thing that I enjoyed about that though,
was just imagining producer Dan's face as Marcus started talking
(13:40):
about the trophy and the various rules that he was
making up on the fly, because it won't be Marcus
who his job it is to sort of that out
that it'll be Dance. I sometimes wonder what Dan does
other than just sort of sit there listening to Marcus
pause for effect when he has to.
Speaker 4 (14:04):
Talk to the callers obviously before they go to the.
Speaker 3 (14:08):
Reason I'm really that's really front of my mind is
because although this is the last New Doorks he had
been for the year, and I'm about to do the
last mic husting breakfast for the year and an hour
and ten minutes time, I am.
Speaker 4 (14:23):
Still at work.
Speaker 3 (14:24):
Next week I'm producing. Do you call it the evening
show when it goes from four to eight?
Speaker 4 (14:30):
I guess so.
Speaker 3 (14:33):
Christmas Evenings we might call it. And I've never produced.
I've produced. I produced a morning show one week with
Oliver Driver hosting, so that was so successful that I
don't think Oliver Driver ever hosted anything else on news Doorks.
He'd be ever again there show, So it's surprising that
they've decided to make me a producer again. So anyway,
(14:56):
That's why I was playing close attention there because that's
the kind of thing that will happen to me.
Speaker 4 (15:02):
Tim Roxborough.
Speaker 3 (15:03):
I think it is my host, and if he starts
talking about trophies and things, that'll be my job to
go into trophy two days before Christmas. So I hope
that doesn't happen. Anyway, This has gone on very long.
Is this the longest news talks that've been we've done
this year? It's fifteen minutes now, Sorry about that. I've
(15:23):
keep there from your family and loved ones. You've been
busy listening to this instead of going about your Christmas
activities with them. Go on where you go and we'll
see you back here again on about the nineteenth of January.
Speaker 4 (15:35):
Something like that.
Speaker 1 (15:36):
Us talking Talking, said Beam. For more from News Talk,
said b listen live on air or online, and keep
our shows with you wherever you go with our podcasts
on iHeartRadio.
You're listening to a podcast from News Talk Said B.
Follow this and our wide range of podcasts now on iHeartRadio.
Speaker 2 (00:20):
Used Talk Said Talk.
Speaker 3 (00:24):
Hello, I'm a beautiful beanies and welcome to the Bean
for Friday. First with yesterday's news, the final Bean of
the year, Ultimate Bean. So we're going to keep it
nice and light and Christmas ey. After we talk about
the Mexican in sentence, of course, and how terrible sports
(00:49):
organizations are at PR and how useless awkward transporters. Then
after all that, we'll get to the Christmas Quiz with Marcus.
But before all of that stuff, what could make us
feel more Christmas Y than thinking about next year's election?
Speaker 4 (01:04):
Oh, for God's sake.
Speaker 5 (01:06):
I gave you specific questions about spending and debt and
all sorts, and she wouldn't answer. Now, to be fair,
she did criticize National's tax cuts, and that was the
moving of the thresholds and reinstating the rebates for landlords.
Now they're kind of tax cuts, and yet they're not.
But they had the effect of reducing government revenue by
(01:27):
fourteen billion dollars, fourteen billion that could have been used
to repay the debt or build infrastructure if the government
wanted to, or they could have just blown it anyway.
Fourteen billion. Now, look, the thresholds were morally wrong, and
I agree with resetting them. They were giving government and
automatic tax rise due to wage inflation. John Key loved it.
But changing them in a time of economic downturn, when
(01:51):
your revenue is reducing anyway, well that's a self inflicted
wound on your books, isn't it. But they had promised
them in the election, and at the time they called
them a tool against the rise and the cost of living.
But you know that that's kind of slogan airing as well.
That's no better than Barbara Edmonds. So it was a
slogan to get votes. And I don't know if National
(02:11):
knew that purposely reducing their revenue was unsustainable. Slashing their
own revenue undid all the work they did over the
last two years cutting spending. But if they did know that,
that was possibly a piece of economic foolishness. But it
was a good slogan and got them votes. And this
is what worries me the most about this country and
pretty much all its politicians. They will say anything to
(02:33):
get votes, and they care more about keeping their jobs
than making the country better.
Speaker 3 (02:38):
He knows that's not just unique to New Zealand, right,
that's politicians everywhere.
Speaker 4 (02:43):
That's politics. How's he come this far in life.
Speaker 3 (02:50):
Without big about out Its will be a long year
for advocates, the year who are still feel like the
last election only just happened. I believe we're thinking about
another election already.
Speaker 4 (03:03):
News Talk Zeth been right.
Speaker 3 (03:06):
Everybody's up in arms about the Mexican sentence. I wonder
how many of those people played those attentions and what
people how they get sentence Usually similar things pretty high profile,
this one isn't it.
Speaker 2 (03:23):
He may get a ten percent uplift because he's in
a position of power and authority. However, on the other
side that the discounts come in because it wasn't of
any physical abuse. It was purely a porn addiction and
other addictions to other things that we won't name. So
(03:44):
I think when a couple of people rang before and
completely lambasted him and said, oh, he should be locked up,
White's every well. I would agree we could lock him
up along with all the others in the same boat
as him, but only if they could lock him up
at somewhere like Roliston Timatimer Sex Unit, where they would
get some real psychological help. They would be receiving proper
(04:10):
care and attention to deal with their addiction, and then
released at the appropriate time when it's felt that they
are in a place to be a good, healthy individual,
not just a set while you've got five years. It's
not about that. It's about addictions. I've had several boys
(04:30):
over the last ten years who I worked without the
prison system underage and they probably did ram raids and
everything else, and they've done arm robberies, but the underlying
thing was addiction to memphetamin.
Speaker 3 (04:43):
So it was Russell calling into the afternoon show yesterday.
I seem to be suggesting that.
Speaker 4 (04:51):
Present as.
Speaker 3 (04:54):
There to help rehabilitate people and make them try and
make them to normal functioning people in society.
Speaker 4 (05:02):
Crazy idea, do you talk. It's been a year of.
Speaker 3 (05:08):
Weird stuff going on and sporting organizations in New Zealand, Hasia,
the PR machines. I just know, from the production side
of a radio show, very difficult dealing with some of
these organizations because the PR machine seems to be there
(05:31):
solely to justify its own existence and to stop you
getting anywhere near any of the people who are making
any of the decisions, or, of course, in things like
Netpal's case, anywhere near the people who just didn't make
any decisions.
Speaker 4 (05:45):
I think Ryan was a bit prestbrated by this as well.
Speaker 6 (05:47):
For the Kansas City Chiefs, they've won a few Super
Bowls recently of late, and now they're not even going
to make the playoffs. So he's upset. Obviously doesn't want
to talk to pesky journos, and I get that. I
understand that because they're athletes, they're emotional, they're up and
down like a yo yo. But when something goes down
(06:07):
in the business of sport, in my view, you should
front it in the same way as a regular company
CEO or a politician would. The fans are the voters,
the shareholders, and they deserve some respect. Respect is shown
through communication, and right now they are getting the corporate
equivalent of a middle finger. And all of this is
(06:30):
made worse by the fact that this is what got
them into the mess to begin with with Dame Knowles.
They didn't front. When they did, they didn't say anything,
and then the mood reached fever pitched in almost every
single Silver fern, whodever donned a bib came out and
had their say through their five cents into the bucket.
Then the government steps in. Then finally things changed. One
(06:55):
of the reasons I quite like netbull in fact that
one of the reasons I love netball and watching it
and following it as a sport is because of the
straight up hard as nail's personalities that tend to dominate it.
They're no nonsense, They straight up up the guts and
I think management ought to take a leaf out of
their books also.
Speaker 4 (07:15):
And it's funny, you know how.
Speaker 3 (07:18):
You know rugby and netball seem to be big things
here in New Zealand. Of course there's such minor sports
on the scale of things, and yet the people who
run them seem to think that they're so bloody important,
But really they're kind of like niche minor sports on
(07:39):
the on the scale of things.
Speaker 4 (07:42):
As far as the world's concerned. I mean, if the
if the rest of the world.
Speaker 3 (07:49):
Knew how much angst things was happening over something that
they barely even heard of and probably never watched, they'd
be laughing. Then has this been the sort of a happy, cuddly,
feel good christmasy sort of podas.
Speaker 4 (08:06):
Should we have a have a laugh at Awkward's expense.
Speaker 3 (08:11):
Yeah, it's funny watching them try to do things like
get to work or go shopping.
Speaker 7 (08:16):
The New York Subway open in nineteen oh four, in
Paris's metro a few years earlier in nineteen hundred, so
it's taken us a hot minute to get with the program.
Even allowing for economies of scale. People will use public
transport if it's efficient and it's safe and it's going.
They're not going to use it when it's shut. We're
(08:38):
seeing increasing numbers of people choosing other modes of transport
other than the car. According to the latest AAA survey,
they expect people who belong to AA to love their cars,
and they do. Ninety seven percent of the seven thousand
members who responded drove in the four weeks before taking
the survey, but sixty percent also walked where they needed
(09:00):
to go, fifteen percent had cycled, fifteen percent had busted,
and six percent had hopped on a train. Imagine how
many more there would be if we did have an
effective public transport system that was actually running.
Speaker 4 (09:17):
I think Carrie also forgot there. It's going to be.
Speaker 3 (09:22):
Economic as well. It's going to make economic sense. I'm
not going to do think something is more expensive than
driving my car to work. Although that's a dangerous thing
to say, because then they just make driving your car
to work more expensive.
Speaker 4 (09:38):
Don't they. Oh well, used talk been Okay, Here it
is the Christmas quiz.
Speaker 3 (09:46):
This is what you've been waiting for, although it sounded
like you might have had to wait a little while
with Marcus last night.
Speaker 8 (09:54):
There will be a quiz tonight, and the quiz I
think could be quite good. And the quiz, like all
good things, happened organically. I would start telling Dan that
should be in the quiz, and that was things we
learned from the show this year. So if you're someone
(10:16):
that listens a lot, you might get a few of
the questions correct. There's fifty one questions, and you will
need a bit of paper and a biro and you'll
need to write one to fifty one, or we could.
Speaker 4 (10:35):
Do how you like.
Speaker 8 (10:36):
Actually, but I will read all the questions out, and
then I will read out all the questions and answers subsequently.
Some of these questions you could discover the answers for online.
Some of them you couldn't I would prefer that you didn't,
but you know, how would you know these days what
(10:59):
people are doing. If I was doing a radio quiz,
I wouldn't cheat, So I'm asking you don't, But if
you do, it's not the end of the world. But
I'd rather than you didn't bring up and tell me
the school you got because at the end of the
shows that I'd like to appoint a champion, and for
that champion, there will be a trophy. And I'm not
(11:26):
sure what the trophy will be, but it will be
engraved and you will have that for a year. All
the stuff I'm making up on the trot what that
trophy is, I'm not entirely sure. I have a look
at my travels around some of the second hand shops
are on trade me and see what I can find.
But it will be something that could have the pride
(11:46):
of place in your room room and every year a
subsequent person that wins will get the trophy. So if
you cheat, then that's going to be haunting for you
because that trophy will be in your room for a
year and be staring down at you. It'll be like
(12:08):
an edgarn and Poe short story, The Beating Heart that
you will know if you have cheated, and you will
feel terrible and the terrifying begging heart but you'll hear
will be your own. I think it's how the ed
grollm posty goes. So you don't cheat, or if you
(12:31):
do cheat, don't bring up and tell what your score is.
That's the way it's going to work. So that's going
to be the quiz. Yeah, I'll enter it myself and
I will read out. I will write down answers myself.
I think that's the way it's going to be.
Speaker 3 (12:53):
It's funny with AI these days being sort of integrated
into everything that you do, because he was talking about
a biro and a piece of paper, but really, I
mean a lot of people don't do biros and pieces
paper anymore. It'll be on a tablet or on the
computer on their phone and AI, I would imagine, we'll
(13:18):
answer a lot of their questions as they type them in.
It'll just there'll be a little promptly and it'll just automatically,
so they'll they'll be cheating without even meaning to. That's
the trouble when you put the robots in charge. You
see the other thing that I enjoyed about that though,
was just imagining producer Dan's face as Marcus started talking
(13:40):
about the trophy and the various rules that he was
making up on the fly, because it won't be Marcus
who his job it is to sort of that out
that it'll be Dance. I sometimes wonder what Dan does
other than just sort of sit there listening to Marcus
pause for effect when he has to.
Speaker 4 (14:04):
Talk to the callers obviously before they go to the.
Speaker 3 (14:08):
Reason I'm really that's really front of my mind is
because although this is the last New Doorks he had
been for the year, and I'm about to do the
last mic husting breakfast for the year and an hour
and ten minutes time, I am.
Speaker 4 (14:23):
Still at work.
Speaker 3 (14:24):
Next week I'm producing. Do you call it the evening
show when it goes from four to eight?
Speaker 4 (14:30):
I guess so.
Speaker 3 (14:33):
Christmas Evenings we might call it. And I've never produced.
I've produced. I produced a morning show one week with
Oliver Driver hosting, so that was so successful that I
don't think Oliver Driver ever hosted anything else on news Doorks.
He'd be ever again there show, So it's surprising that
they've decided to make me a producer again. So anyway,
(14:56):
That's why I was playing close attention there because that's
the kind of thing that will happen to me.
Speaker 4 (15:02):
Tim Roxborough.
Speaker 3 (15:03):
I think it is my host, and if he starts
talking about trophies and things, that'll be my job to
go into trophy two days before Christmas. So I hope
that doesn't happen. Anyway, This has gone on very long.
Is this the longest news talks that've been we've done
this year? It's fifteen minutes now, Sorry about that. I've
(15:23):
keep there from your family and loved ones. You've been
busy listening to this instead of going about your Christmas
activities with them. Go on where you go and we'll
see you back here again on about the nineteenth of January.
Speaker 4 (15:35):
Something like that.
Speaker 1 (15:36):
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