November 4, 2025 • 11 mins
FIRST WITH YESTERDAY'S NEWS (highlights from Monday on Newstalk ZB) I'm Sure Everything Will Be All-White/Except for This Song and Dance Show/Mental Health On the Mind/Who's Hmmm-ing Now?/Guy Fawkes Grinch
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Speaker 1 (00:09):
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Speaker 2 (00:24):
Hello, my beautiful beanies, and welcome to the bean for Wednesday.
First of yesterday's news. I am Glen Hart, and we
are looking back at Tuesday. What has the Maori party
come to? Mental health is on the mind this week
because I think it's gun boot Friday this week. It's
this sort of thing acc no more money for promoting
(00:47):
water safety because it doesn't seem to be doing anything,
and it's fireworks time of course. But before any of that,
so yeah, Erica S. Stamford keeps bringing in the changes
with education policy, so yeah, less well less today, less
focus on things Mari. I think, I think is that
(01:11):
what just let's just widen everything up of that eight.
Speaker 3 (01:13):
I honestly cannot understand why the teacher unions are causing
uproar over this because it seems to me to be
a clear case that this should come out. It hasn't
helped lift Maori achievement in the five years it's been
in the legislation. In fact, going by just one metric,
which is the proportion of Maori students leaving school with
no NCEEA qualification at all. It's getting worse. It was
twenty four percent and twenty twenty one, it's now nearly
(01:35):
twenty eight percent at last count. So if this thing
isn't helping, then it shouldn't be there because all it
is then is just virtue signaling and distracting schools when
schools should be, as the Minister said, laser focused on
educating kids. So this is where I ask my question,
because this is where I get confused. If it doesn't
have to be in there, then why are teacher unions
picking this fight? Why are they fighting for yet another
(01:58):
pet ideological project. Did they not learn from the allergic
reaction that parents had to the news that the number
one thing on the ppta's agenda for the meeting with
the minister was Palestine. That went down like a cup
of cold sick. Is it not obvious to the unions
that they are losing the patients of parents who've already
had a guts full of an education system that isn't
educating their kids, and teacher unions making excuses for it,
(02:20):
and teaching unions not wanting to have to do more work.
So It's one of two things that's going on here
for me, right, Either teacher unions really just cannot help
themselves when it comes to yet another political distraction and
a chance to give a national party a bloody knows
or they know something that I don't know, which is
that they know that there is enormous support out there
(02:41):
for them fighting the good fight on the treaty obligation
for the boards of trustees. So is that happening? Am
I missing something here? Is their massive support out there
for teachers who are fighting this or are they burning
parents goodwill because they can't help themselves yet again, fighting
with a national led government yet again?
Speaker 4 (02:59):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (02:59):
So, I mean I love playing Devil's advocate. Am I
news Talks DB's Devil's advocate, And sometimes I feel like
I'm the one he's prepared to just stop and take
a look at the other side for a minute. And
if other very metrics by which we measure Scholassic success
(03:24):
is that flawed? Is that very sort of westernized, very
white centrack. I'm just I'm just asking questions used talk
z been. I mean, it's very easy, for example, to
look at the Maru party and think, what the hell's
happening here. What a circus, But you know the way
(03:47):
they're looking at it, maybe no, I actually don't make
it make sense. Forget I said anything.
Speaker 4 (03:52):
And it's rent on Facebook about the Cup of Kings.
Tamaherry accused the mother and son of entitlement, avarice and greed,
which is rich because the whole party rigs of ego
and entitlement, and John has always been as zen master
of it and it's only been stoked along by the
Time magazine naming that young member is one of the
one hundred Emerging Leaders in the world. Google Hanarrafiti Miip
(04:15):
Clark and you'll find her influence rests solely on being
the youngest MP in one hundred and seventy years, being
Mari and ripping some paper and performing a Harker in
the house. She also apparently wrote a book about the
moon when she was seventeen, but that is about it.
Does that put her in the top one hundred. There
are no concrete achievements, just one stunt and of course
(04:35):
her youth. The Maori Party seem to think they're special
just because they exist, and that is entitlement. Writ large,
the Maori constituents deserve more from the people they gave
the mandate to. It doesn't need to be this way.
The Maori Party of Peter Sharple's and Tarianaturia was not
this way. This current breed. The money and the fame
(04:58):
and the cameras seem to have gone to all the
heads in the party, from the top to the bottom,
from John all the way down, and it's time for
that party to actually do some Marhi. Well, perhaps they
should just register as a cup of Hocker group and
no more.
Speaker 2 (05:13):
Actually, I actually think Andrew might be onto something there.
I think can we stop with the shouting at each
other and just be based on performances, you know, song
and dance performances. I'd like to see that you talk, right,
(05:34):
So mental health with a bit of discussion around that
this week, I think it's gonna be Friday. This Friday,
Tyler was discussing people who take Andrew depressants which ones
worked and yeah, then this happened, and so what worked
(05:56):
for you?
Speaker 5 (05:57):
Yeah, so it definitely took a couple of goes to
get the correct medication. But I highly recommend getting the
medication if you're in a state that you need it.
I think the long here put it off the worse
it gets. So that's a very good thing. Then you're
(06:19):
actually talking about on the radio, it's brilliant.
Speaker 6 (06:22):
Yes, no, what got on you Ben for bringing up
with your experience? So was that I imagine you know
I'm generalizing here, but I think for a lot of
fellas and look for women out there listening as well,
absolutely keen to hear from you and your experiences. But
you know there's that not taboo, but it can be
harder for fellers to take that first step, right and
(06:43):
maybe if it is chatting to your GP and saying, hey,
look I'm going through some form of anxiety and I
don't really understand what it is and what the next
steps are, that can be quite a big step, right.
Speaker 2 (06:55):
You're just trying to think about the things I've used
over the years. There's one called alcohol. Sometimes it's been
effective most times this so some side effects there.
Speaker 6 (07:12):
Food.
Speaker 2 (07:14):
I've definitely tried to use food in a number of
different ways and that's just been mostly side effects actually,
And yeah, with a liberal helping and guilt thrown in.
So yeah, I'm still looking. So acc have said that
(07:36):
the money that they've been pouring into promoting water safety
hasn't really made much of a difference, so they're going
to stop pouring.
Speaker 7 (07:42):
The potential for things to go drastically wrong, and water
terrifies me. I'd like to think that I'm terrified in
a positive way. I suppose. I suppose respectful might be
a better word to use than terrified. But even though
even though I love getting out of the water, I
know that it will never be my friend. And that
was something I always said to the kids when they
(08:03):
were younger. Yep, it can be fun, but it's not
your friend. It's not your mate, which is why I
was determined from the get go that they were going
to have swimming lessons. But that costs money.
Speaker 2 (08:14):
Ah.
Speaker 7 (08:14):
I can't remember how much we paid for it over
the years for the swimming lessons when they were young,
but I know that we were very fortunate that we
could afford it. I also know, though, if we'd been
in a different financial position, then perhaps the swimming lessons
would have been one of the first things to go,
which is exactly what Gavin Walker from Water Safety New
Zealand the same today. He's saying, I'll quotam. He says,
(08:37):
there's a whole lot of kids who are actually missing
out on good quality water survival support. And he says
it's just going to get worse with ACC pulling its funding,
and that's why ACC needs to take a bit of
its own medicine and needs to have a hmm moment
of its own hmm. If we pull this funding, who
(09:01):
gets harmed?
Speaker 2 (09:02):
Boom? It's John McDonald turning ACC's own promotion on itself.
I love it.
Speaker 1 (09:08):
News talk.
Speaker 2 (09:10):
I'm going to finish up with a bit a bit
more fireworks talk from Marcus. I'm going to get the
impression that this is his least favorite time of the year,
between Halloween and Fireworks Day whatever it's called.
Speaker 8 (09:21):
By the way, Guy fawkes tomorrow. So there's been more
talk about banning that from Winston Peters. I thought he
was the war on woke guy. Is it pretty woke
to ban fireworks? The war on woke guy's become the
woke guy?
Speaker 2 (09:36):
I thought.
Speaker 8 (09:36):
I thought that was not on brand at all.
Speaker 2 (09:39):
So it was. But I had to tell whether Marcus
was for or against fireworks there. I think he's usually
leaning towards against. I'm not leaning towards against, I'm just
deaen't folk definitely against Actually I only heard my first
ones last night, which was nice. I think it's something
to do with the fact that it's on a Wednesday
this week, So that's that's the ideal scenario for fireworks
(10:03):
haters like me, because you know, hopefully it'll be pouring
with brain everybody everywhere as well. I'm the fireworks grinch.
I mean, if if if there was any real reason
to have them, why would the places that sell them.
You know, these weird little pop up stands on the
(10:24):
side of the road be called things like Boom Brothers
as one and then the other one that really makes
me to laugh is bad Boy Fireworks. This is when
I drove us yesterday, bad Boy. So that sounds that
sounds cool. That sounds like a cool thing to do.
Doesn't it cool thing to be selling bad boys? I
(10:47):
wonder who who they're trying to appeal to there, I
am glen hat I'm not trying to appeal to bad boys.
I only want good boys and girls to listen to
this podcast. Thanks. So if you're bad, go away until
you're good again, and then come back tomorrow.
Speaker 1 (11:04):
See Yeah For more from Newstalk st B. Listen live
on air or online, and keep our shows with you
wherever you go with our podcasts on iHeartRadio,
You're listening to a podcast from News Talk sed B.
Follow this and our wide range of podcasts now on
iHeartRadio Used Talk sed be you Talk.
Speaker 2 (00:24):
Hello, my beautiful beanies, and welcome to the bean for Wednesday.
First of yesterday's news. I am Glen Hart, and we
are looking back at Tuesday. What has the Maori party
come to? Mental health is on the mind this week
because I think it's gun boot Friday this week. It's
this sort of thing acc no more money for promoting
(00:47):
water safety because it doesn't seem to be doing anything,
and it's fireworks time of course. But before any of that,
so yeah, Erica S. Stamford keeps bringing in the changes
with education policy, so yeah, less well less today, less
focus on things Mari. I think, I think is that
(01:11):
what just let's just widen everything up of that eight.
Speaker 3 (01:13):
I honestly cannot understand why the teacher unions are causing
uproar over this because it seems to me to be
a clear case that this should come out. It hasn't
helped lift Maori achievement in the five years it's been
in the legislation. In fact, going by just one metric,
which is the proportion of Maori students leaving school with
no NCEEA qualification at all. It's getting worse. It was
twenty four percent and twenty twenty one, it's now nearly
(01:35):
twenty eight percent at last count. So if this thing
isn't helping, then it shouldn't be there because all it
is then is just virtue signaling and distracting schools when
schools should be, as the Minister said, laser focused on
educating kids. So this is where I ask my question,
because this is where I get confused. If it doesn't
have to be in there, then why are teacher unions
picking this fight? Why are they fighting for yet another
(01:58):
pet ideological project. Did they not learn from the allergic
reaction that parents had to the news that the number
one thing on the ppta's agenda for the meeting with
the minister was Palestine. That went down like a cup
of cold sick. Is it not obvious to the unions
that they are losing the patients of parents who've already
had a guts full of an education system that isn't
educating their kids, and teacher unions making excuses for it,
(02:20):
and teaching unions not wanting to have to do more work.
So It's one of two things that's going on here
for me, right, Either teacher unions really just cannot help
themselves when it comes to yet another political distraction and
a chance to give a national party a bloody knows
or they know something that I don't know, which is
that they know that there is enormous support out there
(02:41):
for them fighting the good fight on the treaty obligation
for the boards of trustees. So is that happening? Am
I missing something here? Is their massive support out there
for teachers who are fighting this or are they burning
parents goodwill because they can't help themselves yet again, fighting
with a national led government yet again?
Speaker 4 (02:59):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (02:59):
So, I mean I love playing Devil's advocate. Am I
news Talks DB's Devil's advocate, And sometimes I feel like
I'm the one he's prepared to just stop and take
a look at the other side for a minute. And
if other very metrics by which we measure Scholassic success
(03:24):
is that flawed? Is that very sort of westernized, very
white centrack. I'm just I'm just asking questions used talk
z been. I mean, it's very easy, for example, to
look at the Maru party and think, what the hell's
happening here. What a circus, But you know the way
(03:47):
they're looking at it, maybe no, I actually don't make
it make sense. Forget I said anything.
Speaker 4 (03:52):
And it's rent on Facebook about the Cup of Kings.
Tamaherry accused the mother and son of entitlement, avarice and greed,
which is rich because the whole party rigs of ego
and entitlement, and John has always been as zen master
of it and it's only been stoked along by the
Time magazine naming that young member is one of the
one hundred Emerging Leaders in the world. Google Hanarrafiti Miip
(04:15):
Clark and you'll find her influence rests solely on being
the youngest MP in one hundred and seventy years, being
Mari and ripping some paper and performing a Harker in
the house. She also apparently wrote a book about the
moon when she was seventeen, but that is about it.
Does that put her in the top one hundred. There
are no concrete achievements, just one stunt and of course
(04:35):
her youth. The Maori Party seem to think they're special
just because they exist, and that is entitlement. Writ large,
the Maori constituents deserve more from the people they gave
the mandate to. It doesn't need to be this way.
The Maori Party of Peter Sharple's and Tarianaturia was not
this way. This current breed. The money and the fame
(04:58):
and the cameras seem to have gone to all the
heads in the party, from the top to the bottom,
from John all the way down, and it's time for
that party to actually do some Marhi. Well, perhaps they
should just register as a cup of Hocker group and
no more.
Speaker 2 (05:13):
Actually, I actually think Andrew might be onto something there.
I think can we stop with the shouting at each
other and just be based on performances, you know, song
and dance performances. I'd like to see that you talk, right,
(05:34):
So mental health with a bit of discussion around that
this week, I think it's gonna be Friday. This Friday,
Tyler was discussing people who take Andrew depressants which ones
worked and yeah, then this happened, and so what worked
(05:56):
for you?
Speaker 5 (05:57):
Yeah, so it definitely took a couple of goes to
get the correct medication. But I highly recommend getting the
medication if you're in a state that you need it.
I think the long here put it off the worse
it gets. So that's a very good thing. Then you're
(06:19):
actually talking about on the radio, it's brilliant.
Speaker 6 (06:22):
Yes, no, what got on you Ben for bringing up
with your experience? So was that I imagine you know
I'm generalizing here, but I think for a lot of
fellas and look for women out there listening as well,
absolutely keen to hear from you and your experiences. But
you know there's that not taboo, but it can be
harder for fellers to take that first step, right and
(06:43):
maybe if it is chatting to your GP and saying, hey,
look I'm going through some form of anxiety and I
don't really understand what it is and what the next
steps are, that can be quite a big step, right.
Speaker 2 (06:55):
You're just trying to think about the things I've used
over the years. There's one called alcohol. Sometimes it's been
effective most times this so some side effects there.
Speaker 6 (07:12):
Food.
Speaker 2 (07:14):
I've definitely tried to use food in a number of
different ways and that's just been mostly side effects actually,
And yeah, with a liberal helping and guilt thrown in.
So yeah, I'm still looking. So acc have said that
(07:36):
the money that they've been pouring into promoting water safety
hasn't really made much of a difference, so they're going
to stop pouring.
Speaker 7 (07:42):
The potential for things to go drastically wrong, and water
terrifies me. I'd like to think that I'm terrified in
a positive way. I suppose. I suppose respectful might be
a better word to use than terrified. But even though
even though I love getting out of the water, I
know that it will never be my friend. And that
was something I always said to the kids when they
(08:03):
were younger. Yep, it can be fun, but it's not
your friend. It's not your mate, which is why I
was determined from the get go that they were going
to have swimming lessons. But that costs money.
Speaker 2 (08:14):
Ah.
Speaker 7 (08:14):
I can't remember how much we paid for it over
the years for the swimming lessons when they were young,
but I know that we were very fortunate that we
could afford it. I also know, though, if we'd been
in a different financial position, then perhaps the swimming lessons
would have been one of the first things to go,
which is exactly what Gavin Walker from Water Safety New
Zealand the same today. He's saying, I'll quotam. He says,
(08:37):
there's a whole lot of kids who are actually missing
out on good quality water survival support. And he says
it's just going to get worse with ACC pulling its funding,
and that's why ACC needs to take a bit of
its own medicine and needs to have a hmm moment
of its own hmm. If we pull this funding, who
(09:01):
gets harmed?
Speaker 2 (09:02):
Boom? It's John McDonald turning ACC's own promotion on itself.
I love it.
Speaker 1 (09:08):
News talk.
Speaker 2 (09:10):
I'm going to finish up with a bit a bit
more fireworks talk from Marcus. I'm going to get the
impression that this is his least favorite time of the year,
between Halloween and Fireworks Day whatever it's called.
Speaker 8 (09:21):
By the way, Guy fawkes tomorrow. So there's been more
talk about banning that from Winston Peters. I thought he
was the war on woke guy. Is it pretty woke
to ban fireworks? The war on woke guy's become the
woke guy?
Speaker 2 (09:36):
I thought.
Speaker 8 (09:36):
I thought that was not on brand at all.
Speaker 2 (09:39):
So it was. But I had to tell whether Marcus
was for or against fireworks there. I think he's usually
leaning towards against. I'm not leaning towards against, I'm just
deaen't folk definitely against Actually I only heard my first
ones last night, which was nice. I think it's something
to do with the fact that it's on a Wednesday
this week, So that's that's the ideal scenario for fireworks
(10:03):
haters like me, because you know, hopefully it'll be pouring
with brain everybody everywhere as well. I'm the fireworks grinch.
I mean, if if if there was any real reason
to have them, why would the places that sell them.
You know, these weird little pop up stands on the
(10:24):
side of the road be called things like Boom Brothers
as one and then the other one that really makes
me to laugh is bad Boy Fireworks. This is when
I drove us yesterday, bad Boy. So that sounds that
sounds cool. That sounds like a cool thing to do.
Doesn't it cool thing to be selling bad boys? I
(10:47):
wonder who who they're trying to appeal to there, I
am glen hat I'm not trying to appeal to bad boys.
I only want good boys and girls to listen to
this podcast. Thanks. So if you're bad, go away until
you're good again, and then come back tomorrow.
Speaker 1 (11:04):
See Yeah For more from Newstalk st B. Listen live
on air or online, and keep our shows with you
wherever you go with our podcasts on iHeartRadio,
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