August 4, 2025 • 13 mins
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Speaker 1 (00:09):
You're listening to a podcast from News Talk sed B.
Follow this and our wide range of podcasts now on iHeartRadio,
Used Talk Said Talk.
Speaker 2 (00:24):
Hello, my beautiful beanies, and welcome to the beans for Tuesday.
First of yesterday's news, I am Glen Hart. Today we
need to talk age here charging for the great walks
or charging more for the great walks or you're basically
fleeing tourists through a repenny.
Speaker 3 (00:41):
They've got.
Speaker 2 (00:44):
Some interesting botox chat from yesterday Afternoons show, and Marcus
has the what's the opposite of a television recommendation recommending
you don't watch something? But before any of that, inflation,
the economy, the general malaise.
Speaker 4 (01:05):
A lot of news talks that be hosts sem to
be calling this unlike winter, which we know will end soon.
This economic funk has graced us longer than the gfc's
inflation is on its way back up. For goodness, Sacks,
we may have bounced out of a recession for a
few quarters, but there's also a good chance we currently
back in negative growth territory. That's after three years of
(01:28):
unaffordable food, your mortgages, pretty much everything you know this,
I know this. Politicians are arguing again at the weekend
about who's to blame. The answer, of course is the
Labor Party, the Reserve Bank. They went too far in
responding to the virus, and then we continue down the
spending spree, spending like a drunken sailor. Trump hasn't helped
(01:51):
just recently. The problem for National is that voters don't
seem to care much who started the fire. They just
want the whole thing put out quickly, and they need
to feel the numbers. This is National's problem. This is
the problem. They need to feel the numbers, not the
ocr announcement the top, but they need to feel the
mortgage refixing on a lower rate. Food price inflation is
(02:14):
still going up, so things might be getting more expensive
less quickly, but they're still going up in price, aren't they.
Only once people feel different will the polls respond. For
your Christopher Luxance. The biggest problem for the Coalition on
waiting for that to happen is not that some might
(02:35):
convert to Labor voters in the meantime, but that they
might jump ship all together and move to Brisbane.
Speaker 5 (02:41):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (02:41):
I've seen some of the candidates that are running in
places like Queensland where issues seem to be can you
shoot crocodiles on your own property? I don't know that
I'm necessarily fleeing there so I can vote for somebody different.
Speaker 3 (02:56):
But it's not a bad idea, is it.
Speaker 2 (02:59):
There must be some decent people somewhere.
Speaker 3 (03:02):
News talk has it been somewhere?
Speaker 2 (03:05):
Maybe the hospital system works, age care system works.
Speaker 3 (03:10):
I think that's still working on that here.
Speaker 6 (03:12):
What do you do if you don't have anywhere to go?
If you are living in a home where there are
too many people for too few beds, and you have
somebody that needs the sort of care and attention that
(03:32):
needs to be done in the community, higher level care
than just living on your own. But they don't need
to be in hospital, but they do need some level
of care and attention, and you simply can't provide for that.
Have you come up against this before, if you're working
in the healthcare system, or if you are somebody with
(03:54):
a family member who doesn't need to be in hospital
but certainly needs a level of care that you can't
find in the community. It's exactly that kind of congestion
that Shane Retti was and I'm sure other health ministers
have done so before. Have about this before it's all
interoperable all of the states. We need to take responsibility
(04:15):
for our health when things happen or if we're going
through a bad patch or whatever and we need healthcare.
We need to be able to see a GP if
we can't afford to it or we can't get access
to one in a timely fashion. You went to the
hospital system, and then everything needs to flow smoothly from there.
(04:40):
You're in that hospital bed, you get the treatment you need,
you're out of that hospital bed and into community care.
You can see what happens at any point. If that
gets congested, the whole system is understrained. How do we
fix it?
Speaker 2 (04:56):
Yeah, I've spent two saturdays in a row, did you
care with my mum? And that's because she couldn't get
an appointment with a regular doctor during the week. He's
able to speak with the doctor over the phone, couldn't
(05:17):
get in. So yeah, we were back at urgent here
for another four four hours. There's actually but more than
four hours. Fun times something something's not working. Us talk
said right more plans to get the most out of
(05:38):
tourist that we positively can. If they go for a walk,
we're charging.
Speaker 7 (05:43):
Them we do not make nearly enough money out of
those views and those walks. Once the people get hit,
they mostly do all of it for free, don't they Probably?
I would say probably, Even if we're charging them twenty
to forty New Zealand dollars, what's that like around about
ten to something New Zealand American dollars? Not a lot
of money. Probably at that we're completely under charging them anyway,
(06:04):
So this is a no brainer, And I don't think
we should limit limit it to these four spots. I
think we need to roll it out absolutely everywhere where
the tourists flock. But here's the wrinkle. Great idea, which
is why we've talked about it for such a long time,
But how do you do it? Which is why we've
never done it? Because think of, for example, Cathedral Cove.
I mean, sure, you can fix it in one spot.
(06:24):
You chuck a guy in a booth at the top there,
make the tourists pay when they can't produce proof that
they live here. But then what about the people who
come into the cove on the boats because there are
a lot of them, right, how do you charge them?
Do you ask the boat operators to charge a little
bit more and then pass it on to the government.
What if they don't want to do it because it
lifts their overall charge and then makes the tourists drop off.
Do you then have a guy patrolling the beach asking
(06:46):
everybody do you have a proof that you have a
little ticket to show that you're supposed to be here?
It gets a lot more tricky when you think about
the actual practicalities of it. What about tonguted all, Yeah,
there's one or two. There's two main points, and that
track actually has a lot of points where you can
just jump on if you want to come in from
the side, don't pay your bill? How do you do that?
Speaker 5 (07:03):
Then?
Speaker 7 (07:03):
The devil is in the detail here, and that is
why we never have done it, And that is what
is missing from that announcement at the weekend. If they
can figure that out, and you know, I wait to
see if they can then and only then they're onto
a no brainer here.
Speaker 2 (07:16):
All I know is that I'm going to be doing
Queen and Charlotte sound.
Speaker 3 (07:23):
This summer just popped out yesterday.
Speaker 2 (07:25):
And when I say I did, the music manager obviously
looked at I couldn't be trusted to do anything like that,
But would end up from the History Walkway instead, which
is nice, but I mean we do that one pretty
much every weekend, so it'll be a huge administrative plumber
(07:46):
if that happened your city. Right, So they were talking
anal fishers on the Afternoon Show yesterday, because of course,
why wouldn't you be.
Speaker 5 (07:56):
It's a bit weird bringing up about this. I'm gonna
I've got to share this with you and you announces
listening because I'm a mail and I've had botox, right, Okay,
I never thought I would see the day of that.
Speaker 3 (08:11):
Uh.
Speaker 5 (08:12):
But yeah, it wasn't used for what you're probably thinking
it was used for. Okay, I ended up I've had Uh,
I'll work going quite a physical sort of a job,
not heavy lifting, have done for thirty years, and I
ended up with hemorrhoids. And uh. One day I had
(08:37):
a I had some Korean chicken, green fried chicken, and
I ordered the extra extra hot and spicy. I ended
up I ended up with a what they called an
anal fisher and it was very serious, like it was
so serious. I rang ang because there was so much blood.
(08:58):
I freaked out. It was a we laughed. Later my
my my wife calls me she calls me jelly bum
and bubble button all sorts. Now that that was how
they feuched it, it wouldn't heal.
Speaker 2 (09:15):
You See, this is the great thing about newstalks, it'd
be there's nothing to be ashamed about about having annual fishes.
I mean, annual fishes happen. And yeah, a lot of
people think that botox was invented for cosmetic reasons, but
in actual fact, they were using it for quite some
(09:37):
time for other things. I know that it's used in
the dental industry industry through example that people with clenching issues.
We're talking about dental clenching.
Speaker 5 (09:48):
Again.
Speaker 2 (09:48):
There's nothing to do with the bottoms. Why are you
subscessed with the bottom stuff? Your mind off the bottoms?
Speaker 5 (09:56):
News talk.
Speaker 2 (09:58):
Now, we've got the opposite of a viewing recommendation here
for you today. I think Marcus is saying, don't bother
with Alone.
Speaker 8 (10:06):
You know that show alone called Alone or Alive. I've
always get can alone when they're in Africa. God, that's
got boring. So, I mean, it started very well with
all the shots and everything, but it's become so I
watched the last episode. I thought, cheap is creepy, nothing's happening.
No one's killing anything, no one's peris, there's no vicious
(10:29):
there's nothing happening, and people just get homesick and they
say to themselves, I'm missing my family and they really
need me. I'm thinking, well, if your family needed you,
why did you go on to do this daft thing.
For those that don't know, this is a show where
it used to be an Antarctic care or Canada. But
you go to Africa desert and you can take ten items,
(10:51):
but you fielm yourself and you just literally on your own.
There's no camera people, there's nothing. All you've got is
yourself and your ten items. One go I didn't even
take is pharaoh stick.
Speaker 4 (11:00):
Crazy.
Speaker 8 (11:02):
See there with your ten items, and you've got to
survive for as long as you can. But you have
got a phone that you can ask for help if
you they've had enough, it's called tapping out.
Speaker 3 (11:17):
Most of them have tapped.
Speaker 8 (11:17):
I think it's only three or four left, although you
also get a medical tap out. They come after about
two months. In way, if you're too thin, they'll make
you leave. But it was quite good in the cold
climates because people stopped food and got ready for the
winter and built shelters. But in Africa it's free lack cluster.
A lot of the animals are not allowed to kill
(11:38):
because they're protected. They really only kill warhogs and fish, catfish,
but they all become self effective and more than then
tap out.
Speaker 3 (11:50):
Anyway.
Speaker 8 (11:52):
So yes, it started with great promise, but it's become very,
very unexciting. And I presume I presume they've edited it
all up and they've got all the footage. I don't
think the ready thing is they film it. But yeah,
that's why I complained about that. I don't know if
anyone agrees, don't really care, but yes, last three episodes,
(12:12):
the last two episodes, nothing's happened, nothing at all.
Speaker 3 (12:16):
It's an interesting question, isn't it.
Speaker 2 (12:18):
How long do you give a show before you stop
watching it. It's a bit like stopping reading a book
that you're not enjoying. That's a hard thing to do,
isn't it just leaving that book and read. But my
(12:39):
advice would be, because it's anything to do with reality TV,
is unplug your TV, throw it out the window. If
you're watching any reality TV. I'm not a fan, and
then just look out the window because that's weird. The
reality is I've said it before, I'll say it again.
(13:03):
I don't want reality on the TV. I want the
opposite of that. We've got a lot of viewing recommendations
today and viewing recommendations. My listening recommendation for you is
to join me back here again for another one of
these tomorrow. I'll try to make sure it's more exciting
than an episode of the lines.
Speaker 4 (13:22):
News Talking, Talking has it been.
Speaker 1 (13:27):
For more from News Talk st B. Listen live on
air or online, and keep our shows with you wherever
you go with our podcasts on iHeartRadio
You're listening to a podcast from News Talk sed B.
Follow this and our wide range of podcasts now on iHeartRadio,
Used Talk Said Talk.
Speaker 2 (00:24):
Hello, my beautiful beanies, and welcome to the beans for Tuesday.
First of yesterday's news, I am Glen Hart. Today we
need to talk age here charging for the great walks
or charging more for the great walks or you're basically
fleeing tourists through a repenny.
Speaker 3 (00:41):
They've got.
Speaker 2 (00:44):
Some interesting botox chat from yesterday Afternoons show, and Marcus
has the what's the opposite of a television recommendation recommending
you don't watch something? But before any of that, inflation,
the economy, the general malaise.
Speaker 4 (01:05):
A lot of news talks that be hosts sem to
be calling this unlike winter, which we know will end soon.
This economic funk has graced us longer than the gfc's
inflation is on its way back up. For goodness, Sacks,
we may have bounced out of a recession for a
few quarters, but there's also a good chance we currently
back in negative growth territory. That's after three years of
(01:28):
unaffordable food, your mortgages, pretty much everything you know this,
I know this. Politicians are arguing again at the weekend
about who's to blame. The answer, of course is the
Labor Party, the Reserve Bank. They went too far in
responding to the virus, and then we continue down the
spending spree, spending like a drunken sailor. Trump hasn't helped
(01:51):
just recently. The problem for National is that voters don't
seem to care much who started the fire. They just
want the whole thing put out quickly, and they need
to feel the numbers. This is National's problem. This is
the problem. They need to feel the numbers, not the
ocr announcement the top, but they need to feel the
mortgage refixing on a lower rate. Food price inflation is
(02:14):
still going up, so things might be getting more expensive
less quickly, but they're still going up in price, aren't they.
Only once people feel different will the polls respond. For
your Christopher Luxance. The biggest problem for the Coalition on
waiting for that to happen is not that some might
(02:35):
convert to Labor voters in the meantime, but that they
might jump ship all together and move to Brisbane.
Speaker 5 (02:41):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (02:41):
I've seen some of the candidates that are running in
places like Queensland where issues seem to be can you
shoot crocodiles on your own property? I don't know that
I'm necessarily fleeing there so I can vote for somebody different.
Speaker 3 (02:56):
But it's not a bad idea, is it.
Speaker 2 (02:59):
There must be some decent people somewhere.
Speaker 3 (03:02):
News talk has it been somewhere?
Speaker 2 (03:05):
Maybe the hospital system works, age care system works.
Speaker 3 (03:10):
I think that's still working on that here.
Speaker 6 (03:12):
What do you do if you don't have anywhere to go?
If you are living in a home where there are
too many people for too few beds, and you have
somebody that needs the sort of care and attention that
(03:32):
needs to be done in the community, higher level care
than just living on your own. But they don't need
to be in hospital, but they do need some level
of care and attention, and you simply can't provide for that.
Have you come up against this before, if you're working
in the healthcare system, or if you are somebody with
(03:54):
a family member who doesn't need to be in hospital
but certainly needs a level of care that you can't
find in the community. It's exactly that kind of congestion
that Shane Retti was and I'm sure other health ministers
have done so before. Have about this before it's all
interoperable all of the states. We need to take responsibility
(04:15):
for our health when things happen or if we're going
through a bad patch or whatever and we need healthcare.
We need to be able to see a GP if
we can't afford to it or we can't get access
to one in a timely fashion. You went to the
hospital system, and then everything needs to flow smoothly from there.
(04:40):
You're in that hospital bed, you get the treatment you need,
you're out of that hospital bed and into community care.
You can see what happens at any point. If that
gets congested, the whole system is understrained. How do we
fix it?
Speaker 2 (04:56):
Yeah, I've spent two saturdays in a row, did you
care with my mum? And that's because she couldn't get
an appointment with a regular doctor during the week. He's
able to speak with the doctor over the phone, couldn't
(05:17):
get in. So yeah, we were back at urgent here
for another four four hours. There's actually but more than
four hours. Fun times something something's not working. Us talk
said right more plans to get the most out of
(05:38):
tourist that we positively can. If they go for a walk,
we're charging.
Speaker 7 (05:43):
Them we do not make nearly enough money out of
those views and those walks. Once the people get hit,
they mostly do all of it for free, don't they Probably?
I would say probably, Even if we're charging them twenty
to forty New Zealand dollars, what's that like around about
ten to something New Zealand American dollars? Not a lot
of money. Probably at that we're completely under charging them anyway,
(06:04):
So this is a no brainer, And I don't think
we should limit limit it to these four spots. I
think we need to roll it out absolutely everywhere where
the tourists flock. But here's the wrinkle. Great idea, which
is why we've talked about it for such a long time,
But how do you do it? Which is why we've
never done it? Because think of, for example, Cathedral Cove.
I mean, sure, you can fix it in one spot.
(06:24):
You chuck a guy in a booth at the top there,
make the tourists pay when they can't produce proof that
they live here. But then what about the people who
come into the cove on the boats because there are
a lot of them, right, how do you charge them?
Do you ask the boat operators to charge a little
bit more and then pass it on to the government.
What if they don't want to do it because it
lifts their overall charge and then makes the tourists drop off.
Do you then have a guy patrolling the beach asking
(06:46):
everybody do you have a proof that you have a
little ticket to show that you're supposed to be here?
It gets a lot more tricky when you think about
the actual practicalities of it. What about tonguted all, Yeah,
there's one or two. There's two main points, and that
track actually has a lot of points where you can
just jump on if you want to come in from
the side, don't pay your bill? How do you do that?
Speaker 5 (07:03):
Then?
Speaker 7 (07:03):
The devil is in the detail here, and that is
why we never have done it, And that is what
is missing from that announcement at the weekend. If they
can figure that out, and you know, I wait to
see if they can then and only then they're onto
a no brainer here.
Speaker 2 (07:16):
All I know is that I'm going to be doing
Queen and Charlotte sound.
Speaker 3 (07:23):
This summer just popped out yesterday.
Speaker 2 (07:25):
And when I say I did, the music manager obviously
looked at I couldn't be trusted to do anything like that,
But would end up from the History Walkway instead, which
is nice, but I mean we do that one pretty
much every weekend, so it'll be a huge administrative plumber
(07:46):
if that happened your city. Right, So they were talking
anal fishers on the Afternoon Show yesterday, because of course,
why wouldn't you be.
Speaker 5 (07:56):
It's a bit weird bringing up about this. I'm gonna
I've got to share this with you and you announces
listening because I'm a mail and I've had botox, right, Okay,
I never thought I would see the day of that.
Speaker 3 (08:11):
Uh.
Speaker 5 (08:12):
But yeah, it wasn't used for what you're probably thinking
it was used for. Okay, I ended up I've had Uh,
I'll work going quite a physical sort of a job,
not heavy lifting, have done for thirty years, and I
ended up with hemorrhoids. And uh. One day I had
(08:37):
a I had some Korean chicken, green fried chicken, and
I ordered the extra extra hot and spicy. I ended
up I ended up with a what they called an
anal fisher and it was very serious, like it was
so serious. I rang ang because there was so much blood.
(08:58):
I freaked out. It was a we laughed. Later my
my my wife calls me she calls me jelly bum
and bubble button all sorts. Now that that was how
they feuched it, it wouldn't heal.
Speaker 2 (09:15):
You See, this is the great thing about newstalks, it'd
be there's nothing to be ashamed about about having annual fishes.
I mean, annual fishes happen. And yeah, a lot of
people think that botox was invented for cosmetic reasons, but
in actual fact, they were using it for quite some
(09:37):
time for other things. I know that it's used in
the dental industry industry through example that people with clenching issues.
We're talking about dental clenching.
Speaker 5 (09:48):
Again.
Speaker 2 (09:48):
There's nothing to do with the bottoms. Why are you
subscessed with the bottom stuff? Your mind off the bottoms?
Speaker 5 (09:56):
News talk.
Speaker 2 (09:58):
Now, we've got the opposite of a viewing recommendation here
for you today. I think Marcus is saying, don't bother
with Alone.
Speaker 8 (10:06):
You know that show alone called Alone or Alive. I've
always get can alone when they're in Africa. God, that's
got boring. So, I mean, it started very well with
all the shots and everything, but it's become so I
watched the last episode. I thought, cheap is creepy, nothing's happening.
No one's killing anything, no one's peris, there's no vicious
(10:29):
there's nothing happening, and people just get homesick and they
say to themselves, I'm missing my family and they really
need me. I'm thinking, well, if your family needed you,
why did you go on to do this daft thing.
For those that don't know, this is a show where
it used to be an Antarctic care or Canada. But
you go to Africa desert and you can take ten items,
(10:51):
but you fielm yourself and you just literally on your own.
There's no camera people, there's nothing. All you've got is
yourself and your ten items. One go I didn't even
take is pharaoh stick.
Speaker 4 (11:00):
Crazy.
Speaker 8 (11:02):
See there with your ten items, and you've got to
survive for as long as you can. But you have
got a phone that you can ask for help if
you they've had enough, it's called tapping out.
Speaker 3 (11:17):
Most of them have tapped.
Speaker 8 (11:17):
I think it's only three or four left, although you
also get a medical tap out. They come after about
two months. In way, if you're too thin, they'll make
you leave. But it was quite good in the cold
climates because people stopped food and got ready for the
winter and built shelters. But in Africa it's free lack cluster.
A lot of the animals are not allowed to kill
(11:38):
because they're protected. They really only kill warhogs and fish, catfish,
but they all become self effective and more than then
tap out.
Speaker 3 (11:50):
Anyway.
Speaker 8 (11:52):
So yes, it started with great promise, but it's become very,
very unexciting. And I presume I presume they've edited it
all up and they've got all the footage. I don't
think the ready thing is they film it. But yeah,
that's why I complained about that. I don't know if
anyone agrees, don't really care, but yes, last three episodes,
(12:12):
the last two episodes, nothing's happened, nothing at all.
Speaker 3 (12:16):
It's an interesting question, isn't it.
Speaker 2 (12:18):
How long do you give a show before you stop
watching it. It's a bit like stopping reading a book
that you're not enjoying. That's a hard thing to do,
isn't it just leaving that book and read. But my
(12:39):
advice would be, because it's anything to do with reality TV,
is unplug your TV, throw it out the window. If
you're watching any reality TV. I'm not a fan, and
then just look out the window because that's weird. The
reality is I've said it before, I'll say it again.
(13:03):
I don't want reality on the TV. I want the
opposite of that. We've got a lot of viewing recommendations
today and viewing recommendations. My listening recommendation for you is
to join me back here again for another one of
these tomorrow. I'll try to make sure it's more exciting
than an episode of the lines.
Speaker 4 (13:22):
News Talking, Talking has it been.
Speaker 1 (13:27):
For more from News Talk st B. Listen live on
air or online, and keep our shows with you wherever
you go with our podcasts on iHeartRadio
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