March 2, 2025 • 12 mins
FIRST WITH YESTERDAY'S NEWS (highlights from the weekend on Newstalk ZB) But Which Football?/Blues Get It Together/When Bullies Don't Get Their Way/Why Spit Was It/Six Re-Writes History
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Speaker 1 (00:09):
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Speaker 2 (00:23):
Hello, my beautiful beanies, and welcome to the Bean the
weekend edition, first of the Yesterday's News.
Speaker 3 (00:27):
I am Glenn Hart.
Speaker 2 (00:29):
And because it's the weekend edition, we're looking back at
Sunday and Saturday.
Speaker 3 (00:35):
That's right, that's right, those are the weekend days.
Speaker 2 (00:38):
It's a great time to watch Super Rugby the weekend
because that seems to be when it's on. Blues seem
to be coming right.
Speaker 3 (00:45):
Well this week anyway. Yeah, the old trump Zelenski.
Speaker 2 (00:50):
Tita tap, that was a bit of a problem. David
Wynham is a very good Australian actor. He's got a
new show out and speaking of shows, let's talk Live
Shows and six which has opened in the Auckland. But
before any of the rise and rise of Auckland FC
(01:11):
has brought more attention to the A League for sure,
and it's got Jack watching more football than other.
Speaker 4 (01:20):
Football In some ways, I reckon the real measure of
Auckland f C's success this season is the stuff on
the periphery, right, the stuff that is bigger than the team.
I'm not naive enough to think they're going to keep
on winning forever. And since the start of the A
League season, our boy has become utterly obsessed with football.
He spends hours now in the backyard practicing skills and
(01:43):
accidentally kicking his ball into the neighbor's swimming pool. He
went and picked up the Encyclopedia of Football from the
library and makes me read to him as his bedtime story.
The excruciating detail contained within Last week, I had to
read a whole chapter on football pitch turf preparation techniques.
(02:05):
He's eight. He's eight, and sitting there reading to him.
He's at there, transfixed as I ran through a paragraph
describing the drainage systems at Wembley. If I'm honest, though,
I've been affected too. At least I realized I have
last night, when, instead of picking the game I would
have picked to watch every Friday for the last twenty
(02:28):
nine years, the last thirty years since the inception of
Super Rugby, I switched from an exciting close game of
Super Rugby to watch the A League live instead. And
I just wonder how many households in New Zealand might
be doing the same.
Speaker 2 (02:42):
Well, I can only speak for my household, but I
did wait for the Chiefs game to finish before I
swapped over to the the Orpen the FC game on
Saturday afternoon. But yeah, it was highly entertaining the orkane
(03:04):
of segame. I mean, you can't argue with eight goals
in a game of that kind of.
Speaker 3 (03:08):
Foot can you?
Speaker 1 (03:10):
News talk?
Speaker 3 (03:11):
Ze Beany's back to Super Rugby?
Speaker 2 (03:14):
If you care about the Blues, it's hard to find
somebody who really does care about the Blues. There must
be somebody somewhere anyway, if you do, you'll probably be
pleased that they had to win this weekend.
Speaker 5 (03:27):
How important was it for you to get on the
board last night with a win after going zero and
two to start the season.
Speaker 6 (03:35):
Yeh, a big result that we needed that as a group.
You know, we've been struggling along and not hitting our straps,
not that we hit our strips fully lass down on Wellington,
but that's definitely a big improvement. And when they will
look to bull from the next couple of weeks.
Speaker 5 (03:53):
Which areas in particular, did you think you weren't quite
hitting the straps of early on? And maybe even still
as you say, have some work to do on.
Speaker 6 (04:03):
Yeah, I just it's a clision based game May and
we've you know, we've got a lot of guys coming back,
and I shall be a little bit undercooked to be fair,
but you know we look like the at times. Last night,
you know, we looked like the Blues of old, where
we were nice and physical and getting up working hard
for each other. So you know, he's got to keep
(04:24):
improving in those a couple of key areas and get
back to work on Monday.
Speaker 2 (04:29):
Yeah, that's a big old Paul Tito there, keeping it real,
systant coach of the Blues. Has he ever a lot
of assistant coaches?
Speaker 3 (04:37):
Don't they? These teens?
Speaker 5 (04:41):
Right?
Speaker 3 (04:42):
So is this the beginning of the end of the world.
Speaker 2 (04:48):
Because Vladimir and Donald She's had a very strange shouting
matchn't they the other day?
Speaker 3 (04:55):
Where does that leave us?
Speaker 7 (04:56):
So what about? Where does it leave the USA commitment
to Europe in general? I guess because if the others
are all getting sort of behind Zelenski and then Trump's
going to feel even more personally offended, isn't he.
Speaker 8 (05:10):
Yes, this is clearly a split. There's a transit latter
Atlantic divide right now. That is growing bigger by the day,
and it's the America first foreign policy and action. Donald
Trump has a very different view of the world, and
he's following a very realist foreign policy, very transactional. It's
what's best for America. It's focused on deals. We've seen
(05:32):
that with regards to Gaza as well, of course the
proposals to displace the population of Gaza for example. He's
putting some big ideas out there. I guess you could
say the tariffs on Canada and Mexico and China is
another one. And he's approaching foreign policy in a completely
(05:52):
different way to what we've been used to from the
United States, and even compared with Donald Trump's first term,
this is getting pretty big and it will be quite
a new reality, I think for Europeans to deal with
the New Zealand to deal with as well. Remember when
newsvenant has got to make its own choices now on
whether it goes into to orcus Pillar two for example.
So there's some huge challenges, huge questions ahead for foreign policy,
(06:17):
both in the United States but around the world.
Speaker 7 (06:20):
I want to dig into that in just a second.
But just back to that press conference, where was there
a moment that you thought it went wrong? Was it
Zelenski said the wrong thing about JD Vance? What does
diplomacy look like to you? He should have just left
that for the meeting? Or was JD Evance coming on
off a long run up a little bit hot? Where
do you think it went wrong?
Speaker 8 (06:38):
Yes, it did seem to go wrong about that question
of diplomacy effectively. Violensky questioned the ability to negotiate with
Vladimir Putin and said that Putin just doesn't stick by
his word, doesn't keep his promises.
Speaker 2 (06:52):
Yeah, I mean, this seems to be the general feeling
among world leaders is that Trump is putting too much
trust in Putin.
Speaker 3 (07:00):
And that's the issue. When you watch that exchange.
Speaker 2 (07:07):
Zelensky and Trump, I kind of went, Haha, Trump, somebody's
finally called you on your bullshit.
Speaker 3 (07:16):
You know, the way that he has.
Speaker 2 (07:21):
Rhetoric, you know, describing things as you know, holding all
the cards and you know, reducing it to talk of
deals and games and things like that, and Vlenski was
just having none of it.
Speaker 3 (07:31):
That was where things got really tasty, wasn't it.
Speaker 2 (07:34):
And but you know, it's polarizing because if you're a
Trump fan, he can do no wrong Pully liked the
guy I saw at lunch the other day who was
wearing a big T shirt that just said Trump and
kept all leaders across the top of it, had a
picture of him after he'd been.
Speaker 3 (07:52):
Shot at that Butler rally and then at the bottom bulletproof.
Speaker 2 (07:59):
It's just you just wonder why somebody feels the need
to wear a T shirt like that around that a.
Speaker 3 (08:06):
Tap room in New Zealand. There you go, right.
Speaker 2 (08:11):
David winnhim is a very successful Australian actor and he's
got a new film coming out called Spit, which is
actually it's short for the leading character's name, Spit.
Speaker 4 (08:24):
You have worked in massive name Hollywood blockbusters, major franchises.
What drew you to Spet?
Speaker 9 (08:35):
Back to Spit because Spirit was a character that was
in a movie twenty three years ago or twenty two
years ago called Getting Square. None of us involved in
that film ever thought that we'd be revisiting that world again.
It was just it started from a conversation about eleven
years ago I had with a good friend of mine
who's a filmmaker, Robert Connolly, and we were talking about
the fact Robert's known me for a long time, the
(08:56):
fact that one of my strongest suits is comedy, and
I never get the opportunity to exercise that very often.
And he brought up the character of Johnny's Pati from
Getting Square, and I started a on a whole heap
of scenarios that you could drop Johnny in and then
you know, potential hilarity may ensue. And he said, you
know there's something in this. There's something in it. So
(09:18):
I rang Chris Nice, who wrote Getting Square, and he said, well,
your timing is interesting because he'd been working on the
film centered around Spit with the director Jonathan Tuplitsky for
some time and he said, you want me to send
it over to you. I said, yeah, sure, and I
read it the very first draft about eleven years ago.
Ten eleven years ago, I thought was absolutely inspired. Because
(09:39):
none of us wanted to do Getting Square two. There
had to be a reason for Spit to come back,
and it had to be solid enough that you know,
the audience would be completely engaged for ninety to one
hundred minutes. And he nailed it pretty much straight off
the bat, and then that obviously the hardest part then
was to get the film up and that's another story.
(10:01):
But we did, and now it's finally reaching the cinema,
which is great.
Speaker 3 (10:04):
It's a shame, isn't that.
Speaker 2 (10:05):
You often hear about what a struggle it is to
get movies made, Like you can't just go out and
make a movie.
Speaker 3 (10:14):
You've got to get all the support and freeze out
the right people and feel very political, isn't it? And
I suppose it's true of.
Speaker 1 (10:21):
Most things news talk has it been.
Speaker 2 (10:24):
I can only imagine what it takes to create a
successful musical. Although the hit show Smashed they gave quite
a good insight for that, but that is not the
show we're talking about today. We're talking about six and
the story was already written, of course, because it was
about Hey, really eight Wi Georgia.
Speaker 10 (10:44):
Maybe you could talk us through this musical. It's kind
of history reimagined. Is that a good way to put it?
Told from the perspective of Henry's six X wives.
Speaker 11 (10:54):
Absolutely.
Speaker 10 (10:55):
Yeah.
Speaker 11 (10:56):
How we talk about this show is that it's a
pop concept, it's a musical theater show, and it's a
history lesson or mashed into one. So yeah, absolutely, it's
that three and one, and it's told from the perspectives
of the six queens.
Speaker 10 (11:11):
So Celia. How do you take at what makes us
sort of rather grim story such a energitic, fabulous sort
of pop concert.
Speaker 12 (11:20):
Yeah, well, I think it's the rewriting of history in
a way that brings it into the twenty first century.
We're talking about, you know, we're basically reenacting a historical
piece like a you know, like we're playing ode to
these queens in a way that that kind of enables
them to be elevated.
Speaker 6 (11:36):
You know.
Speaker 12 (11:37):
It's like it's like this retelling from this femin lens
that you wouldn't normally hear about in the history books.
And the good part of it is that it kind
of is satirical and turns it around and creates a
comedy and an empowering piece that you know, you take
inspiration from and you kind of understand these queens a
little more in their full energy. Yeah.
Speaker 10 (11:56):
How accurate is it? How is how's do you know
what it actually is? History?
Speaker 11 (12:02):
Obviously it's a pop concept, so that's not accurate. But
when we look at the script and the score, it
is hundred percent accurate. Everything we're speaking about is exactly
what happened to these women. I guess the inaccuracy comes
with bringing their stories into the twenty first century.
Speaker 3 (12:17):
Well, I'm off to see it this weekend and I've
did nothing but good.
Speaker 2 (12:21):
Thanks, I'm about that.
Speaker 3 (12:25):
I am Brian Hart.
Speaker 2 (12:27):
That has been you thought we'd been the Wesdean Editions.
Speaker 3 (12:30):
We'll see you back here again tomorrow with what Happens.
Speaker 1 (12:33):
Today, News Talkers, Talks It Been.
Speaker 4 (12:38):
For more from News Talk sid B.
Speaker 1 (12:39):
Listen live on air or online, and keep our shows
with you wherever you go with our podcasts on iHeartRadio.
You're listening to a podcast from News Talk sed B.
Follow this and our wide range of podcasts now on
iHeartRadio Used Talk SEDB Talk.
Speaker 2 (00:23):
Hello, my beautiful beanies, and welcome to the Bean the
weekend edition, first of the Yesterday's News.
Speaker 3 (00:27):
I am Glenn Hart.
Speaker 2 (00:29):
And because it's the weekend edition, we're looking back at
Sunday and Saturday.
Speaker 3 (00:35):
That's right, that's right, those are the weekend days.
Speaker 2 (00:38):
It's a great time to watch Super Rugby the weekend
because that seems to be when it's on. Blues seem
to be coming right.
Speaker 3 (00:45):
Well this week anyway. Yeah, the old trump Zelenski.
Speaker 2 (00:50):
Tita tap, that was a bit of a problem. David
Wynham is a very good Australian actor. He's got a
new show out and speaking of shows, let's talk Live
Shows and six which has opened in the Auckland. But
before any of the rise and rise of Auckland FC
(01:11):
has brought more attention to the A League for sure,
and it's got Jack watching more football than other.
Speaker 4 (01:20):
Football In some ways, I reckon the real measure of
Auckland f C's success this season is the stuff on
the periphery, right, the stuff that is bigger than the team.
I'm not naive enough to think they're going to keep
on winning forever. And since the start of the A
League season, our boy has become utterly obsessed with football.
He spends hours now in the backyard practicing skills and
(01:43):
accidentally kicking his ball into the neighbor's swimming pool. He
went and picked up the Encyclopedia of Football from the
library and makes me read to him as his bedtime story.
The excruciating detail contained within Last week, I had to
read a whole chapter on football pitch turf preparation techniques.
(02:05):
He's eight. He's eight, and sitting there reading to him.
He's at there, transfixed as I ran through a paragraph
describing the drainage systems at Wembley. If I'm honest, though,
I've been affected too. At least I realized I have
last night, when, instead of picking the game I would
have picked to watch every Friday for the last twenty
(02:28):
nine years, the last thirty years since the inception of
Super Rugby, I switched from an exciting close game of
Super Rugby to watch the A League live instead. And
I just wonder how many households in New Zealand might
be doing the same.
Speaker 2 (02:42):
Well, I can only speak for my household, but I
did wait for the Chiefs game to finish before I
swapped over to the the Orpen the FC game on
Saturday afternoon. But yeah, it was highly entertaining the orkane
(03:04):
of segame. I mean, you can't argue with eight goals
in a game of that kind of.
Speaker 3 (03:08):
Foot can you?
Speaker 1 (03:10):
News talk?
Speaker 3 (03:11):
Ze Beany's back to Super Rugby?
Speaker 2 (03:14):
If you care about the Blues, it's hard to find
somebody who really does care about the Blues. There must
be somebody somewhere anyway, if you do, you'll probably be
pleased that they had to win this weekend.
Speaker 5 (03:27):
How important was it for you to get on the
board last night with a win after going zero and
two to start the season.
Speaker 6 (03:35):
Yeh, a big result that we needed that as a group.
You know, we've been struggling along and not hitting our straps,
not that we hit our strips fully lass down on Wellington,
but that's definitely a big improvement. And when they will
look to bull from the next couple of weeks.
Speaker 5 (03:53):
Which areas in particular, did you think you weren't quite
hitting the straps of early on? And maybe even still
as you say, have some work to do on.
Speaker 6 (04:03):
Yeah, I just it's a clision based game May and
we've you know, we've got a lot of guys coming back,
and I shall be a little bit undercooked to be fair,
but you know we look like the at times. Last night,
you know, we looked like the Blues of old, where
we were nice and physical and getting up working hard
for each other. So you know, he's got to keep
(04:24):
improving in those a couple of key areas and get
back to work on Monday.
Speaker 2 (04:29):
Yeah, that's a big old Paul Tito there, keeping it real,
systant coach of the Blues. Has he ever a lot
of assistant coaches?
Speaker 3 (04:37):
Don't they? These teens?
Speaker 5 (04:41):
Right?
Speaker 3 (04:42):
So is this the beginning of the end of the world.
Speaker 2 (04:48):
Because Vladimir and Donald She's had a very strange shouting
matchn't they the other day?
Speaker 3 (04:55):
Where does that leave us?
Speaker 7 (04:56):
So what about? Where does it leave the USA commitment
to Europe in general? I guess because if the others
are all getting sort of behind Zelenski and then Trump's
going to feel even more personally offended, isn't he.
Speaker 8 (05:10):
Yes, this is clearly a split. There's a transit latter
Atlantic divide right now. That is growing bigger by the day,
and it's the America first foreign policy and action. Donald
Trump has a very different view of the world, and
he's following a very realist foreign policy, very transactional. It's
what's best for America. It's focused on deals. We've seen
(05:32):
that with regards to Gaza as well, of course the
proposals to displace the population of Gaza for example. He's
putting some big ideas out there. I guess you could
say the tariffs on Canada and Mexico and China is
another one. And he's approaching foreign policy in a completely
(05:52):
different way to what we've been used to from the
United States, and even compared with Donald Trump's first term,
this is getting pretty big and it will be quite
a new reality, I think for Europeans to deal with
the New Zealand to deal with as well. Remember when
newsvenant has got to make its own choices now on
whether it goes into to orcus Pillar two for example.
So there's some huge challenges, huge questions ahead for foreign policy,
(06:17):
both in the United States but around the world.
Speaker 7 (06:20):
I want to dig into that in just a second.
But just back to that press conference, where was there
a moment that you thought it went wrong? Was it
Zelenski said the wrong thing about JD Vance? What does
diplomacy look like to you? He should have just left
that for the meeting? Or was JD Evance coming on
off a long run up a little bit hot? Where
do you think it went wrong?
Speaker 8 (06:38):
Yes, it did seem to go wrong about that question
of diplomacy effectively. Violensky questioned the ability to negotiate with
Vladimir Putin and said that Putin just doesn't stick by
his word, doesn't keep his promises.
Speaker 2 (06:52):
Yeah, I mean, this seems to be the general feeling
among world leaders is that Trump is putting too much
trust in Putin.
Speaker 3 (07:00):
And that's the issue. When you watch that exchange.
Speaker 2 (07:07):
Zelensky and Trump, I kind of went, Haha, Trump, somebody's
finally called you on your bullshit.
Speaker 3 (07:16):
You know, the way that he has.
Speaker 2 (07:21):
Rhetoric, you know, describing things as you know, holding all
the cards and you know, reducing it to talk of
deals and games and things like that, and Vlenski was
just having none of it.
Speaker 3 (07:31):
That was where things got really tasty, wasn't it.
Speaker 2 (07:34):
And but you know, it's polarizing because if you're a
Trump fan, he can do no wrong Pully liked the
guy I saw at lunch the other day who was
wearing a big T shirt that just said Trump and
kept all leaders across the top of it, had a
picture of him after he'd been.
Speaker 3 (07:52):
Shot at that Butler rally and then at the bottom bulletproof.
Speaker 2 (07:59):
It's just you just wonder why somebody feels the need
to wear a T shirt like that around that a.
Speaker 3 (08:06):
Tap room in New Zealand. There you go, right.
Speaker 2 (08:11):
David winnhim is a very successful Australian actor and he's
got a new film coming out called Spit, which is
actually it's short for the leading character's name, Spit.
Speaker 4 (08:24):
You have worked in massive name Hollywood blockbusters, major franchises.
What drew you to Spet?
Speaker 9 (08:35):
Back to Spit because Spirit was a character that was
in a movie twenty three years ago or twenty two
years ago called Getting Square. None of us involved in
that film ever thought that we'd be revisiting that world again.
It was just it started from a conversation about eleven
years ago I had with a good friend of mine
who's a filmmaker, Robert Connolly, and we were talking about
the fact Robert's known me for a long time, the
(08:56):
fact that one of my strongest suits is comedy, and
I never get the opportunity to exercise that very often.
And he brought up the character of Johnny's Pati from
Getting Square, and I started a on a whole heap
of scenarios that you could drop Johnny in and then
you know, potential hilarity may ensue. And he said, you
know there's something in this. There's something in it. So
(09:18):
I rang Chris Nice, who wrote Getting Square, and he said, well,
your timing is interesting because he'd been working on the
film centered around Spit with the director Jonathan Tuplitsky for
some time and he said, you want me to send
it over to you. I said, yeah, sure, and I
read it the very first draft about eleven years ago.
Ten eleven years ago, I thought was absolutely inspired. Because
(09:39):
none of us wanted to do Getting Square two. There
had to be a reason for Spit to come back,
and it had to be solid enough that you know,
the audience would be completely engaged for ninety to one
hundred minutes. And he nailed it pretty much straight off
the bat, and then that obviously the hardest part then
was to get the film up and that's another story.
(10:01):
But we did, and now it's finally reaching the cinema,
which is great.
Speaker 3 (10:04):
It's a shame, isn't that.
Speaker 2 (10:05):
You often hear about what a struggle it is to
get movies made, Like you can't just go out and
make a movie.
Speaker 3 (10:14):
You've got to get all the support and freeze out
the right people and feel very political, isn't it? And
I suppose it's true of.
Speaker 1 (10:21):
Most things news talk has it been.
Speaker 2 (10:24):
I can only imagine what it takes to create a
successful musical. Although the hit show Smashed they gave quite
a good insight for that, but that is not the
show we're talking about today. We're talking about six and
the story was already written, of course, because it was
about Hey, really eight Wi Georgia.
Speaker 10 (10:44):
Maybe you could talk us through this musical. It's kind
of history reimagined. Is that a good way to put it?
Told from the perspective of Henry's six X wives.
Speaker 11 (10:54):
Absolutely.
Speaker 10 (10:55):
Yeah.
Speaker 11 (10:56):
How we talk about this show is that it's a
pop concept, it's a musical theater show, and it's a
history lesson or mashed into one. So yeah, absolutely, it's
that three and one, and it's told from the perspectives
of the six queens.
Speaker 10 (11:11):
So Celia. How do you take at what makes us
sort of rather grim story such a energitic, fabulous sort
of pop concert.
Speaker 12 (11:20):
Yeah, well, I think it's the rewriting of history in
a way that brings it into the twenty first century.
We're talking about, you know, we're basically reenacting a historical
piece like a you know, like we're playing ode to
these queens in a way that that kind of enables
them to be elevated.
Speaker 6 (11:36):
You know.
Speaker 12 (11:37):
It's like it's like this retelling from this femin lens
that you wouldn't normally hear about in the history books.
And the good part of it is that it kind
of is satirical and turns it around and creates a
comedy and an empowering piece that you know, you take
inspiration from and you kind of understand these queens a
little more in their full energy. Yeah.
Speaker 10 (11:56):
How accurate is it? How is how's do you know
what it actually is? History?
Speaker 11 (12:02):
Obviously it's a pop concept, so that's not accurate. But
when we look at the script and the score, it
is hundred percent accurate. Everything we're speaking about is exactly
what happened to these women. I guess the inaccuracy comes
with bringing their stories into the twenty first century.
Speaker 3 (12:17):
Well, I'm off to see it this weekend and I've
did nothing but good.
Speaker 2 (12:21):
Thanks, I'm about that.
Speaker 3 (12:25):
I am Brian Hart.
Speaker 2 (12:27):
That has been you thought we'd been the Wesdean Editions.
Speaker 3 (12:30):
We'll see you back here again tomorrow with what Happens.
Speaker 1 (12:33):
Today, News Talkers, Talks It Been.
Speaker 4 (12:38):
For more from News Talk sid B.
Speaker 1 (12:39):
Listen live on air or online, and keep our shows
with you wherever you go with our podcasts on iHeartRadio.
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