November 6, 2025 • 13 mins
FIRST WITH YESTERDAY'S NEWS (highlights from Thursday on Newstalk ZB) There Really Are Two Types of People/The Age of the NIMBY/The Right to Fish/Podcast Roulette/Giving Our Restaurants the Star Treatment
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Speaker 1 (00:09):
You're listening to a podcast from News Talk said b
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Used Talk said, be you talk.
Speaker 2 (00:24):
Hello, my beautiful beanies, and welcome to the bean for Friday.
First of yesterday's news. I am Glen Hart and we
are looking back at Thursday. Ryan wants a word about Nimbiaism.
We'll hear from the bloke organizing the Hiroche goldfishing protest.
He's got to say for himself. Bitter podcast Roulette with
(00:48):
Marcus and a word on Michelin stars at the end
of the podcast. But before anything else, let's talk sickly.
Speaker 3 (00:59):
One thing I have noticed the boss is clamping down
on other people who ring in and go, yeah, feeling
a bit poorly, Mike, just work from home. And the
bosses quite rightly, are now saying, but poorly right you are,
don't worry about working. Take a sick leave day, because
they know that when you ring in and go, yeah,
(01:23):
you know what, not so good today, But of a scratch,
bit of a tickle might stay in and work from home.
That's not what's going to happen. They're not going to
be as productive. They've probably got a haircut or I
don't know, an appointment at a nail salon or whatever
(01:43):
it is. You're either sick or you're not. You're either
working or you're not. And I totally accept that that
is an old school view. It may not be the
right one, but I'd love to know what your policy is.
As bosses, it must be an absolute minefield trying to
(02:04):
navigate your way through people who are genuinely ill and
they might have, you know, it might be something far
more than a sniffle. They might have something a little
bit more complicated. They're a good worker.
Speaker 4 (02:15):
What do you do?
Speaker 3 (02:17):
You've got people who are having a bit of a slump,
a bit of a downtime in their life. There's a
lot going on. They're not technically sick, but they're not
right either. Might be a relationship breakup. What do you
do with them? Tell me how you navigate it? And
(02:38):
as a worker, what's your attitude towards sick days.
Speaker 2 (02:41):
It's one of those things, isn't it that there's two
types of people in the world. Basically, there are people
who we'll call in sick and use all their sickle
and know how much sickly they've got, and then there
are the people like me who are just under the
impression that you know, you've got sickly there and if
(03:04):
you're sick, you call in sick. But otherwise how a
g even know what the balance is? And for people
like me, the other kind of person is sort of anathema.
Really don't really understand where they're coming from. Very strange people.
How people look for reasons not to go to work,
(03:27):
news talk been how do people look for reasons not
to do a lot of things? There's too I do
Sometimes I might be on Ryan's side here. I think
there are too many people in this country looking for
reasons not to do things.
Speaker 5 (03:40):
The problem we have, I don't think is necessarily a
lack of opportunities of wherewithal or enthusiasm, not even in
many cases investment. I was just an oargo just recently
beautiful place, stunning, Central Otaga. There's a gold mine permit
that's been issued there. You might have seen that in
the news. Sam Neil was dead against the project when
I was down there, as are many others. You know,
(04:03):
there's opposition, there's legal challenges. Fair enough, you know they've
got houses in the area, worried about.
Speaker 2 (04:08):
On the road then what it looks like.
Speaker 5 (04:11):
But it's also an area that would be serviced by
this brand new hospital that Dunedin is getting. Half the
town's buildings by the way, and Otaga wouldn't be there
to begin with if it's not for gold mining. So
the permits issued, the rest is with fast track whatever.
But how are you going to pay for that hospital?
How are you going to pay for that hospital? Wanaka
(04:32):
said no to a McDonald's in part due to concerns
about healthy eating. Residents objected to a solar farm in
part because of something called lunar reflection, that the moonlight
might reflect off a solar panel like it would I
don't know a lake or an ocean. I mean, come on,
are we clutching its straws here or what. It's all
(04:52):
well and good, but if we want stuff like new hospitals,
highways and potholes fixed, you have to pay for them somehow.
And there's a little too much economic nimbiism going on
at the moment, I think for anyone to be seriously
complaining about the state of things.
Speaker 2 (05:07):
I'm just stoked there. I've got some of my bins back.
I don't know if it was on this podcast or
my other very successful rewrap podcasts that gets published a
little bit later in the day every day. But yeah,
I used to complained that they took the Auckland Council
(05:29):
took all my rubbish thins away and all the places
where I walk my dog, and so I had to
go around with the poo in my pocket. And now
there are at least two bins that have been put back,
and they appear to be shiny new ones as well,
so that's good. I do worry that they spent extra money,
(05:52):
but that you know, obviously taking them out, putting them
in and new bins. It was a waste of money,
wasn't it. But at least I've got I'm suffering from
a little bit less poop pocket moment. I don't know
if that's got anything to do with what Ryan was
just talking. I just wanted to year with someone.
Speaker 1 (06:11):
You've talk Ziban.
Speaker 2 (06:15):
We now turn to somebody who wants to be able
to do something in his backyard. I think if you
can call the hericue gold for backyard, he just wants
to be able to fish there, but I don't think
he can. Is that what's happening? I guess that's why
we're having the protest so we can find out what's happening.
Speaker 6 (06:31):
So the big bone of contention with all this, Ben
is that you and and thousands of other other fishes
feel that it treats recreational fishes, you guys who just
go out and catch food for your families, primarily compared
to the commercial operators.
Speaker 7 (06:46):
Yeah, and has been going on for quite some time.
Speaker 3 (06:48):
You know.
Speaker 7 (06:48):
Just look back at Tony Orton's resignation later, you know,
and he was involved in the so called consultation process
for the public or the recreational sector. He goes on
to state that, you know, he basically felt it was
a predetermined outcome. We haven't been listened to for a
long time. Well eevery other organization that has an interest
(07:10):
in the golfen of White in New Zealander will have
their favor, but we don't have ours, and we represent
a very large number of people.
Speaker 6 (07:18):
You know, has this often been the case, I mean,
this particular actors has been proposed and as you say,
there wasn't much public consultation of any to be able
to get the thoughts of recreational fishes. But does it
feel like it is time and time again the commercial
operators they get some allowances and exemptions, and it is
the recreational guys who tend to miss out. And arguably,
(07:40):
whether you agree with this, that the recreational guys would
probably do less harm to the oceans than the commercial guys.
Speaker 2 (07:47):
I like the way Tyler refers to them as fishes.
Obviously he means eers, but the way he says it
sounds like fishes, like a bunch of fish, and that
that guy Ben Chazelle is speaking on behalf of the fish.
Can we can we get the man from Atlantis and
(08:13):
possibly Aquaman as well involved in all of this? Sitting alrighty,
have we done any podcasts really at this week? I
don't think we've played podcasts really at this week. So
let's do that now. I've got a clip here called
Marcus Barbecue Confession. I literally have no idea what they
(08:37):
could possibly mean. Let's find out.
Speaker 4 (08:39):
It is the busy season. Not the busy season for talk,
but the busy season for people doing something confession time.
This is not my confession, because I'm not that person,
but who tonight with his gorgeous weather has got out
to the barbecue and it was a there was no
guess in the bottle happens every year? Or what is worse?
You go to the barbecue for your first barbecue of
(09:00):
the summer, hasn't been clean since the last time. Any
of you want to confess to that the empty gas spot,
because that's the night ruin of the empty gas bottle.
But it's even worth when you've got to clean it
if you are that person, if you have that confission,
does know what that confision is? Eight hundred and eight
some of you will have done that. I'm sure you
could ring up and say, Marcus, my barbecue confission is
I did just that.
Speaker 2 (09:20):
No gas, no clean Well, I mean, Shane Jones keeps
telling us that we were running out of gas and
maybe we should go back to charcole Ones. But I
that's why I run a two gas bottle situation. So
I've always got a spare guess bottle ready to go
and just swap it over. You'd be amazed at how
(09:40):
fast I could swap a gas bottle over. That came
about because I used to have one of those patio
heaters you know that runs off the gas bottle, and
then that rusted to pieces and so I had to
throw that away. But I kept the gas bottle obviously,
and now I will never run out of gas from
my barbecue, which is great. And also, who's not cleaning
(10:02):
the barbecue? You clean it when you finish cooking. That's
when that's the best time to clean it while it's
still hot. And I'm assuming he's talking about just for
plate and mcgrill. Don't ever clean the rest of it.
I did that once in my entire barbecue felder piezas
and I'd go out by.
Speaker 1 (10:17):
A new one news talk.
Speaker 6 (10:19):
Has it been.
Speaker 2 (10:21):
Pretty yeah, as you can tell, I'm pretty experienced barbecue.
I don't know if I might Michelin starlibel bro.
Speaker 8 (10:26):
Now, this is not free. We have to pay for it,
and we have to pay actually quite a lot of
money for it. It's costing Tourism New Zealand nearly six
and a half million dollars and that's just for the
first three years. And I don't know how much you
have to pay after that. But take a look at
what the Ossies did, I mean, the Aussie's looked at
this last year. It was going to cost them four
million dollars for the first year, five million dollars for
the second year, seven and a half million dollars for
(10:48):
the next year, and then basically for a few years
there after, something like another three years. It was going
to cost them another seven and a half million dollars
by my calculations, in the space of what maybe five
or six years, they were going to have to fork
out to Michelin about forty million dollars. Ozzie's looked at it,
said nah, but we've said yes, And I reckon we're
doing the right thing doing that because this has grown
(11:09):
up first world tourism. I mean, I think about the
trip that I just did last weekend to Melbourne with
a couple of girlfriends. Food was a huge part of it.
The one of us who was doing the bookings found
the good places to eat, the places that everybody in
Melbourne is talking about, got us into those places lunch
and dinner. And this is what tourists do. They come
to a city for an event and they tag on
(11:30):
great food, find all the great restaurants and go try
them out. And here in New Zealand, we are really
good at food. I mean the entire time that I
was in Melbourne, I kept thinking that for all the
raving that people do about Milburnian eateries. Actually in New
Zealand you can get just as good, if not, in
my opinion, a whole lot better. And actually paying six
(11:51):
million dollars for this is not really all that much.
I mean when you think about what gets spent on
tourism campaigns that you can never actually be sure really work.
Back in April, the government pumped twice as much as this,
thirteen and a half million dollars into advertising New Zealand
to Ossie's. What do you get for that? I mean,
you get maybe a guess that's so assie tourists came
here as a result. As a result for this money
(12:11):
that we're giving to Michelin, you get actual stars potentially,
you get international prestige. You get the sense for tourists
that they have landed in a first world city eating
international grade food.
Speaker 2 (12:21):
I reckon. Your ideal scenario is not to go to
a Michelin star restaurant, because that'll be Yeah, as soon
as there happens, the prices will be through the roof,
won't they. What you want to find is a restaurant
that's trying to get a Michelin Star, because they'll be
working even harder. And I reckon you get more bang
(12:42):
for your back. I don't think I've taken the right
attitude towards this, but if it sounds like a good plan.
I'm so hungry now just thinking about it. And it's
only four fifty six am, so I've only got a
banana from the breakfast banana there waiting in the in
(13:05):
a little bag. I try and say that fill seven am.
But you don't want your to blow your breakfast banana
too early, otherwise that your whole day is ruined. I
hope your whole day isn't ruined. I hope it's great.
I hope your weekend's great. And be back here again
with a weekend edition of Newstalks You've been on Monday.
Speaker 1 (13:23):
See you then used Talking Talkings It been for more
from News Talk, said B. Listen live on air or online,
and keep our shows with you wherever you go with
our podcasts on iHeartRadio.
You're listening to a podcast from News Talk said b
follow this and our wide range of podcasts now on iHeartRadio.
Used Talk said, be you talk.
Speaker 2 (00:24):
Hello, my beautiful beanies, and welcome to the bean for Friday.
First of yesterday's news. I am Glen Hart and we
are looking back at Thursday. Ryan wants a word about Nimbiaism.
We'll hear from the bloke organizing the Hiroche goldfishing protest.
He's got to say for himself. Bitter podcast Roulette with
(00:48):
Marcus and a word on Michelin stars at the end
of the podcast. But before anything else, let's talk sickly.
Speaker 3 (00:59):
One thing I have noticed the boss is clamping down
on other people who ring in and go, yeah, feeling
a bit poorly, Mike, just work from home. And the
bosses quite rightly, are now saying, but poorly right you are,
don't worry about working. Take a sick leave day, because
they know that when you ring in and go, yeah,
(01:23):
you know what, not so good today, But of a scratch,
bit of a tickle might stay in and work from home.
That's not what's going to happen. They're not going to
be as productive. They've probably got a haircut or I
don't know, an appointment at a nail salon or whatever
(01:43):
it is. You're either sick or you're not. You're either
working or you're not. And I totally accept that that
is an old school view. It may not be the
right one, but I'd love to know what your policy is.
As bosses, it must be an absolute minefield trying to
(02:04):
navigate your way through people who are genuinely ill and
they might have, you know, it might be something far
more than a sniffle. They might have something a little
bit more complicated. They're a good worker.
Speaker 4 (02:15):
What do you do?
Speaker 3 (02:17):
You've got people who are having a bit of a slump,
a bit of a downtime in their life. There's a
lot going on. They're not technically sick, but they're not
right either. Might be a relationship breakup. What do you
do with them? Tell me how you navigate it? And
(02:38):
as a worker, what's your attitude towards sick days.
Speaker 2 (02:41):
It's one of those things, isn't it that there's two
types of people in the world. Basically, there are people
who we'll call in sick and use all their sickle
and know how much sickly they've got, and then there
are the people like me who are just under the
impression that you know, you've got sickly there and if
(03:04):
you're sick, you call in sick. But otherwise how a
g even know what the balance is? And for people
like me, the other kind of person is sort of anathema.
Really don't really understand where they're coming from. Very strange people.
How people look for reasons not to go to work,
(03:27):
news talk been how do people look for reasons not
to do a lot of things? There's too I do
Sometimes I might be on Ryan's side here. I think
there are too many people in this country looking for
reasons not to do things.
Speaker 5 (03:40):
The problem we have, I don't think is necessarily a
lack of opportunities of wherewithal or enthusiasm, not even in
many cases investment. I was just an oargo just recently
beautiful place, stunning, Central Otaga. There's a gold mine permit
that's been issued there. You might have seen that in
the news. Sam Neil was dead against the project when
I was down there, as are many others. You know,
(04:03):
there's opposition, there's legal challenges. Fair enough, you know they've
got houses in the area, worried about.
Speaker 2 (04:08):
On the road then what it looks like.
Speaker 5 (04:11):
But it's also an area that would be serviced by
this brand new hospital that Dunedin is getting. Half the
town's buildings by the way, and Otaga wouldn't be there
to begin with if it's not for gold mining. So
the permits issued, the rest is with fast track whatever.
But how are you going to pay for that hospital?
How are you going to pay for that hospital? Wanaka
(04:32):
said no to a McDonald's in part due to concerns
about healthy eating. Residents objected to a solar farm in
part because of something called lunar reflection, that the moonlight
might reflect off a solar panel like it would I
don't know a lake or an ocean. I mean, come on,
are we clutching its straws here or what. It's all
(04:52):
well and good, but if we want stuff like new hospitals,
highways and potholes fixed, you have to pay for them somehow.
And there's a little too much economic nimbiism going on
at the moment, I think for anyone to be seriously
complaining about the state of things.
Speaker 2 (05:07):
I'm just stoked there. I've got some of my bins back.
I don't know if it was on this podcast or
my other very successful rewrap podcasts that gets published a
little bit later in the day every day. But yeah,
I used to complained that they took the Auckland Council
(05:29):
took all my rubbish thins away and all the places
where I walk my dog, and so I had to
go around with the poo in my pocket. And now
there are at least two bins that have been put back,
and they appear to be shiny new ones as well,
so that's good. I do worry that they spent extra money,
(05:52):
but that you know, obviously taking them out, putting them
in and new bins. It was a waste of money,
wasn't it. But at least I've got I'm suffering from
a little bit less poop pocket moment. I don't know
if that's got anything to do with what Ryan was
just talking. I just wanted to year with someone.
Speaker 1 (06:11):
You've talk Ziban.
Speaker 2 (06:15):
We now turn to somebody who wants to be able
to do something in his backyard. I think if you
can call the hericue gold for backyard, he just wants
to be able to fish there, but I don't think
he can. Is that what's happening? I guess that's why
we're having the protest so we can find out what's happening.
Speaker 6 (06:31):
So the big bone of contention with all this, Ben
is that you and and thousands of other other fishes
feel that it treats recreational fishes, you guys who just
go out and catch food for your families, primarily compared
to the commercial operators.
Speaker 7 (06:46):
Yeah, and has been going on for quite some time.
Speaker 3 (06:48):
You know.
Speaker 7 (06:48):
Just look back at Tony Orton's resignation later, you know,
and he was involved in the so called consultation process
for the public or the recreational sector. He goes on
to state that, you know, he basically felt it was
a predetermined outcome. We haven't been listened to for a
long time. Well eevery other organization that has an interest
(07:10):
in the golfen of White in New Zealander will have
their favor, but we don't have ours, and we represent
a very large number of people.
Speaker 6 (07:18):
You know, has this often been the case, I mean,
this particular actors has been proposed and as you say,
there wasn't much public consultation of any to be able
to get the thoughts of recreational fishes. But does it
feel like it is time and time again the commercial
operators they get some allowances and exemptions, and it is
the recreational guys who tend to miss out. And arguably,
(07:40):
whether you agree with this, that the recreational guys would
probably do less harm to the oceans than the commercial guys.
Speaker 2 (07:47):
I like the way Tyler refers to them as fishes.
Obviously he means eers, but the way he says it
sounds like fishes, like a bunch of fish, and that
that guy Ben Chazelle is speaking on behalf of the fish.
Can we can we get the man from Atlantis and
(08:13):
possibly Aquaman as well involved in all of this? Sitting alrighty,
have we done any podcasts really at this week? I
don't think we've played podcasts really at this week. So
let's do that now. I've got a clip here called
Marcus Barbecue Confession. I literally have no idea what they
(08:37):
could possibly mean. Let's find out.
Speaker 4 (08:39):
It is the busy season. Not the busy season for talk,
but the busy season for people doing something confession time.
This is not my confession, because I'm not that person,
but who tonight with his gorgeous weather has got out
to the barbecue and it was a there was no
guess in the bottle happens every year? Or what is worse?
You go to the barbecue for your first barbecue of
(09:00):
the summer, hasn't been clean since the last time. Any
of you want to confess to that the empty gas spot,
because that's the night ruin of the empty gas bottle.
But it's even worth when you've got to clean it
if you are that person, if you have that confission,
does know what that confision is? Eight hundred and eight
some of you will have done that. I'm sure you
could ring up and say, Marcus, my barbecue confission is
I did just that.
Speaker 2 (09:20):
No gas, no clean Well, I mean, Shane Jones keeps
telling us that we were running out of gas and
maybe we should go back to charcole Ones. But I
that's why I run a two gas bottle situation. So
I've always got a spare guess bottle ready to go
and just swap it over. You'd be amazed at how
(09:40):
fast I could swap a gas bottle over. That came
about because I used to have one of those patio
heaters you know that runs off the gas bottle, and
then that rusted to pieces and so I had to
throw that away. But I kept the gas bottle obviously,
and now I will never run out of gas from
my barbecue, which is great. And also, who's not cleaning
(10:02):
the barbecue? You clean it when you finish cooking. That's
when that's the best time to clean it while it's
still hot. And I'm assuming he's talking about just for
plate and mcgrill. Don't ever clean the rest of it.
I did that once in my entire barbecue felder piezas
and I'd go out by.
Speaker 1 (10:17):
A new one news talk.
Speaker 6 (10:19):
Has it been.
Speaker 2 (10:21):
Pretty yeah, as you can tell, I'm pretty experienced barbecue.
I don't know if I might Michelin starlibel bro.
Speaker 8 (10:26):
Now, this is not free. We have to pay for it,
and we have to pay actually quite a lot of
money for it. It's costing Tourism New Zealand nearly six
and a half million dollars and that's just for the
first three years. And I don't know how much you
have to pay after that. But take a look at
what the Ossies did, I mean, the Aussie's looked at
this last year. It was going to cost them four
million dollars for the first year, five million dollars for
the second year, seven and a half million dollars for
(10:48):
the next year, and then basically for a few years
there after, something like another three years. It was going
to cost them another seven and a half million dollars
by my calculations, in the space of what maybe five
or six years, they were going to have to fork
out to Michelin about forty million dollars. Ozzie's looked at it,
said nah, but we've said yes, And I reckon we're
doing the right thing doing that because this has grown
(11:09):
up first world tourism. I mean, I think about the
trip that I just did last weekend to Melbourne with
a couple of girlfriends. Food was a huge part of it.
The one of us who was doing the bookings found
the good places to eat, the places that everybody in
Melbourne is talking about, got us into those places lunch
and dinner. And this is what tourists do. They come
to a city for an event and they tag on
(11:30):
great food, find all the great restaurants and go try
them out. And here in New Zealand, we are really
good at food. I mean the entire time that I
was in Melbourne, I kept thinking that for all the
raving that people do about Milburnian eateries. Actually in New
Zealand you can get just as good, if not, in
my opinion, a whole lot better. And actually paying six
(11:51):
million dollars for this is not really all that much.
I mean when you think about what gets spent on
tourism campaigns that you can never actually be sure really work.
Back in April, the government pumped twice as much as this,
thirteen and a half million dollars into advertising New Zealand
to Ossie's. What do you get for that? I mean,
you get maybe a guess that's so assie tourists came
here as a result. As a result for this money
(12:11):
that we're giving to Michelin, you get actual stars potentially,
you get international prestige. You get the sense for tourists
that they have landed in a first world city eating
international grade food.
Speaker 2 (12:21):
I reckon. Your ideal scenario is not to go to
a Michelin star restaurant, because that'll be Yeah, as soon
as there happens, the prices will be through the roof,
won't they. What you want to find is a restaurant
that's trying to get a Michelin Star, because they'll be
working even harder. And I reckon you get more bang
(12:42):
for your back. I don't think I've taken the right
attitude towards this, but if it sounds like a good plan.
I'm so hungry now just thinking about it. And it's
only four fifty six am, so I've only got a
banana from the breakfast banana there waiting in the in
(13:05):
a little bag. I try and say that fill seven am.
But you don't want your to blow your breakfast banana
too early, otherwise that your whole day is ruined. I
hope your whole day isn't ruined. I hope it's great.
I hope your weekend's great. And be back here again
with a weekend edition of Newstalks You've been on Monday.
Speaker 1 (13:23):
See you then used Talking Talkings It been for more
from News Talk, said B. Listen live on air or online,
and keep our shows with you wherever you go with
our podcasts on iHeartRadio.
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