June 30, 2025 • 12 mins
FIRST WITH YESTERDAY'S NEWS (highlights from Monday on Newstalk ZB) Is This Just All for Show?/Poor Old Landlords/Beef Wellington Is Complicated/Which Buddha Is Best?
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Speaker 2 (00:24):
Hello, my beautiful beanies, and welcome to the bean for
Tuesday birth of yesterday's news. I am Glen Hart, and
we are looking back at Monday. That healthy homes stuff
is coming in today. I know you thought it was
already here.
Speaker 3 (00:41):
It's finally here.
Speaker 2 (00:44):
The mushroom killer case or a leigited killer or what's
happening here?
Speaker 3 (00:56):
We're getting a Buddha of our own, a statue, not
the deity.
Speaker 2 (01:05):
But first up, yeah, you're going to be in big
jobs if you get agro with your first responder, which
is probably fair enough.
Speaker 4 (01:16):
Look no further than the current aggravating factors that they're
not using properly, including assault, its assaults on first responders,
you know, your ambulance, your paramedics, your cops. The government
is stepping in to fix this even though it shouldn't
need fixing. It's already an aggravating factor in sentencing, but
(01:36):
the ambulance staff and the first responders say it's basically
fallen by the wayside. The courts weren't focused on them
when making decisions even though they're the victims, and even
though they're the first responders. Courts have a lot of
leeway here. So now the government is stepping in again
to extend and expand this provision to make it even tougher. Hopefully,
(02:00):
fingers crossed this time we might actually see some movement
from the courts following the direction they've set by Parliament.
But it's just like those as you see on TV selling,
you know, sofas up to eighty percent off stall wide
is not the same as eighty percent off stare white,
is it? And there's big enough leeway here to drive
(02:21):
a truck through. When it comes to the courts and
tough on crime.
Speaker 3 (02:24):
It's kind of sort of the judicial version of greenwashing, isn't.
Speaker 2 (02:27):
It, Like, yeah, oh well we cracked down on this,
But really the only people who can crack down on
it are the police and the courts, aren't they. The
politicians can't individually crack down on cases, which is probably
appropriate news talks it been.
Speaker 3 (02:49):
Anyway, how does Carrie Woodham see it?
Speaker 2 (02:54):
I mean, I think we're all agree we probably shouldn't
do crimes against first responders or indeed anybody for that matter.
Speaker 5 (03:01):
If these discounts meant that they realized they'd had a
lucky escape from prison, that this was an open tunity
to look at another direction in their lives and take
it to think, right, I don't want to go down
this path. I'm going to use this as a as
an absolute wake up call to change my ways and
(03:22):
go in another direction. If you could show me that
it worked, I'd be interested in talking doubt that you can.
Speaker 1 (03:30):
Dare you?
Speaker 5 (03:31):
Dare you to show me the figures that showed that
discounts for remorse and youth actually worked. The government's also
looking at longer prison sentences for people who assault prison
officers or on duty first responders such as paramedics and firefighters.
This is so overdue. I thought this was this was
(03:52):
talked about, I think God, I think it was under
the Clerk government they first talked about it. The proposals
were to create a new specific offense for assaults on
first responders for those who have family who work on
the front line. I know a number of you were
terrified about your life. One's going to work. You really
hope that you got to see them again, fit and
(04:17):
healthy when they came back through the door. Does this
give you a greater degree of security, Probably not because
the offense has to happen before they're punished, but at
least I hope it gives you the confidence to know
that the first responders are valued, that you recognized that
(04:41):
we know what you do is walk into danger while
other people are running away from it.
Speaker 2 (04:46):
Funny old thing life, isn't it Like You've got these
firefighters that were.
Speaker 3 (04:52):
Shot and Idaho.
Speaker 2 (04:54):
Over the weekend. It's amazing how things that match up
all over the world sometimes, isn't it?
Speaker 1 (05:03):
You talk?
Speaker 2 (05:05):
Okay, so healthy homes. Yes, it's been the very stressful
time for landlords having to make sure that their rental
properties are you know, livable.
Speaker 3 (05:18):
Four old landlords and as of today there'll be in
big drub drubs they're not.
Speaker 6 (05:24):
Do you know how many rentals we're talking about with
thirty percent failing, it's about one hundred and eighty thousand
rentals in this country. That is massive, and I'm sorry
to say, but frankly, just because of the maths, the
cost of getting a villa up to scratch is maybe
I would say fifteen thousand dollars maybe more. The fine
though for doing so if you get caught, and that
(05:45):
is a big if if you get caught, given there
are thousands of landlords out there in the same boat.
It's about two four hundred dollars for the first offense,
so I'm told. And if you were a re peat offender,
maybe you get fined seven two hundred dollars. Now, I think,
just based on that maths right, if you get caught,
the fine is tiny compared to how much you end
(06:06):
up paying. I think that explains why so many of
these landlords haven't done it. It was said at the
time that these rules were brought in that the rules
were too harsh, too expensive, and that they lift rentals
to a standard above what even landlords live in. And
I think the numbers that we're seeing today ahead of
the rules actually kicking in tomorrow, I think the numbers
bear that out.
Speaker 3 (06:24):
What do you reckon?
Speaker 2 (06:26):
I reckon when they say that the standards above what
landlords actually live in.
Speaker 3 (06:32):
I picture landlords.
Speaker 2 (06:35):
It's being quite stingy about things like how much heat
that they use in.
Speaker 3 (06:38):
Their own houses. For example, we're freezing in there and
they just say, ah, stop your wedding, put on and
pick a coach. Right, Let's look across the taarsman. Now
to the.
Speaker 2 (06:51):
Mushrooms and the trial and well and beef Wellington for
that matter.
Speaker 7 (06:58):
I don't think I've ever had beef Wellington, said, you
ever had beef Wellington?
Speaker 8 (07:03):
Beg your pardon?
Speaker 7 (07:03):
Dere have you ever had beef Wellington?
Speaker 8 (07:08):
And I'm ringing from Carpody Coast here.
Speaker 2 (07:11):
Brilliant, that's what we need today, Patricia, Yes, Patricia, while
asking you, have you ever cocked beef Wellington?
Speaker 8 (07:21):
No? I haven't. And I'm ninety four today.
Speaker 3 (07:24):
Happy birthday, you're very much.
Speaker 1 (07:27):
Wow, lovely day and did you people coming in?
Speaker 8 (07:35):
Lots of flowers? And I had another lovely friend came
in who'd been away for about four or five days
up until Ranana, and she arrived back in Wellington today
and she was around well, the biggest ever seen, got
all the lights on the candles, you know the automatic
little lights you light, and took the photos. And she's
(07:59):
got me holding the cake with ninety four on.
Speaker 3 (08:02):
Us right now. And are you in a village or.
Speaker 8 (08:05):
You on your own?
Speaker 3 (08:05):
Are you a home?
Speaker 8 (08:06):
No? No, no, I'm in my parent's family home.
Speaker 3 (08:10):
Great well, the lubbish of your parents aren't still there? Wow?
He went there.
Speaker 2 (08:17):
I mean I was going to make a similar observation,
but Marc has sort of beat me too. The French.
As you get into the ninety four and never having
had beef Wellington, I mean, you're probably better off not
having it.
Speaker 3 (08:32):
By the sounds of things, I.
Speaker 1 (08:33):
Guess news talk has it.
Speaker 2 (08:36):
Been seemed to be one of those complicated things people, well,
and a bit like lemon merangu pied is a lot
of different. It's a complicated, man, there's a complicated way
to kill somebody. Just make it from the mushroom sauce
and serve a steak. Oh, that's more straightforward.
Speaker 3 (08:54):
Hey do you want to Buddha statue?
Speaker 2 (08:57):
Why don't you want to but a statue? But a
statues all right, don't they?
Speaker 9 (09:01):
Well, I don't mind a large buddher. There is already
a Buddhist settlement up there, a Buddhist monastery actually in
kael kopper Coop, slightly to the coming south from where
this is being built. This is not a normal Buddha.
I want to know what sect this Buddha is connected with?
Speaker 7 (09:20):
Well, it's The people behind the project is Jita's Grove
Charitable Trusts. They're a member of the New Zealand Buddhist Council.
They exist to spread and teach the Buddhist faith. They
founding documents are filed with the Charities Register. So they've
done every They've jump through all the bills for all I.
Speaker 9 (09:38):
Know, they've done everything. But I think everybody's saying they're
building this large Buddher. In most people's minds, they would
be thinking of the sitting Buddha. This is a man
standing with.
Speaker 7 (09:50):
I'll explained to you, yes quite right, as a big
old man. He's standing up, he's got his right arm
out on his left arm, he holds a staff. He
is standing, he's standing, and he's fifty foot high.
Speaker 9 (10:02):
It would be nice to have an explanation of why
which sector is from I mean New Zealand. But there
are buddhis sex, just like in Christianity or other religions.
Why most usually the Buddha. I'd like to know what
Buddha it is just I mean, I don't mind it
being there, but I think why why?
Speaker 1 (10:20):
What?
Speaker 3 (10:21):
Why?
Speaker 7 (10:21):
Why do you need to know what sector is? Are
there bad ones and good ones or what?
Speaker 9 (10:26):
But there are different Buddhers. There's Buddhas of this, there's
Buddhas is there, and I just wonder which buddh of
it is. Because everyone's saying Buddha, you straight away think
it's going to be a Buddha like you're used to seeing.
Speaker 7 (10:37):
You mean, the big, fat, cheery ones that sit on
the top of Japanese mountains.
Speaker 9 (10:41):
There's robes, and there is a very large buddher at
the kal Kopa Koppa monastery that the Dalai Lama went
and blessed and everything when that was built. That's quite
a There's a very big one on one of the
temples in Ellerslie, Lovely. I have no objection to one.
I'm just it's just a very odd It's not like
(11:03):
I can't think of it as a buddher.
Speaker 2 (11:04):
You think it's kind of a I don't really have
a much Venanda's standing of how Buddhism works, but I
as far as I do understand it, I think the
buddher does take several like is everywhere all around us
all the time, in many different forms how it works.
I love a big statue though it was in Bali
(11:28):
last year. Man, they had a big statue. I don't
know what that was about, but man, it was a
big statue. You can see it from a long way away.
It's quite cool. Does you does your head in a
bit when you see a big statue like that, You think, oh,
that looks close, and then you realize no, it's just
really giant, and in fact it's not close. There's a
(11:49):
bit of that going on with this this one. It'd
be cool. Yeah, which border is best? That's I think
that's what Callum wants to know.
Speaker 3 (12:02):
I am Glen hat.
Speaker 2 (12:03):
I look a bit like the budder with the help
a bit to be honest, and I think she's right.
I think that's the one we like them. Rab for
coming to lack. I wish I can get people to
rrab my tummy, but they just are not not into it.
Speaker 3 (12:21):
I'll see you Beck. I'll just carry on with these
random thoughts. I'd probably should keep them to myself. I'll
carry on thinking of them to myself, and I'll be
back to share some more random ones with you tomorrow.
Speaker 1 (12:30):
Season Use Talking Talking Said Bean for more from News
Talk Said Be listen live on air or online, and
keep our shows with you wherever you go with our
podcast on iHeartRadio.
You're listening to a podcast from News Talk Said Be
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Speaker 2 (00:24):
Hello, my beautiful beanies, and welcome to the bean for
Tuesday birth of yesterday's news. I am Glen Hart, and
we are looking back at Monday. That healthy homes stuff
is coming in today. I know you thought it was
already here.
Speaker 3 (00:41):
It's finally here.
Speaker 2 (00:44):
The mushroom killer case or a leigited killer or what's
happening here?
Speaker 3 (00:56):
We're getting a Buddha of our own, a statue, not
the deity.
Speaker 2 (01:05):
But first up, yeah, you're going to be in big
jobs if you get agro with your first responder, which
is probably fair enough.
Speaker 4 (01:16):
Look no further than the current aggravating factors that they're
not using properly, including assault, its assaults on first responders,
you know, your ambulance, your paramedics, your cops. The government
is stepping in to fix this even though it shouldn't
need fixing. It's already an aggravating factor in sentencing, but
(01:36):
the ambulance staff and the first responders say it's basically
fallen by the wayside. The courts weren't focused on them
when making decisions even though they're the victims, and even
though they're the first responders. Courts have a lot of
leeway here. So now the government is stepping in again
to extend and expand this provision to make it even tougher. Hopefully,
(02:00):
fingers crossed this time we might actually see some movement
from the courts following the direction they've set by Parliament.
But it's just like those as you see on TV selling,
you know, sofas up to eighty percent off stall wide
is not the same as eighty percent off stare white,
is it? And there's big enough leeway here to drive
(02:21):
a truck through. When it comes to the courts and
tough on crime.
Speaker 3 (02:24):
It's kind of sort of the judicial version of greenwashing, isn't.
Speaker 2 (02:27):
It, Like, yeah, oh well we cracked down on this,
But really the only people who can crack down on
it are the police and the courts, aren't they. The
politicians can't individually crack down on cases, which is probably
appropriate news talks it been.
Speaker 3 (02:49):
Anyway, how does Carrie Woodham see it?
Speaker 2 (02:54):
I mean, I think we're all agree we probably shouldn't
do crimes against first responders or indeed anybody for that matter.
Speaker 5 (03:01):
If these discounts meant that they realized they'd had a
lucky escape from prison, that this was an open tunity
to look at another direction in their lives and take
it to think, right, I don't want to go down
this path. I'm going to use this as a as
an absolute wake up call to change my ways and
(03:22):
go in another direction. If you could show me that
it worked, I'd be interested in talking doubt that you can.
Speaker 1 (03:30):
Dare you?
Speaker 5 (03:31):
Dare you to show me the figures that showed that
discounts for remorse and youth actually worked. The government's also
looking at longer prison sentences for people who assault prison
officers or on duty first responders such as paramedics and firefighters.
This is so overdue. I thought this was this was
(03:52):
talked about, I think God, I think it was under
the Clerk government they first talked about it. The proposals
were to create a new specific offense for assaults on
first responders for those who have family who work on
the front line. I know a number of you were
terrified about your life. One's going to work. You really
hope that you got to see them again, fit and
(04:17):
healthy when they came back through the door. Does this
give you a greater degree of security, Probably not because
the offense has to happen before they're punished, but at
least I hope it gives you the confidence to know
that the first responders are valued, that you recognized that
(04:41):
we know what you do is walk into danger while
other people are running away from it.
Speaker 2 (04:46):
Funny old thing life, isn't it Like You've got these
firefighters that were.
Speaker 3 (04:52):
Shot and Idaho.
Speaker 2 (04:54):
Over the weekend. It's amazing how things that match up
all over the world sometimes, isn't it?
Speaker 1 (05:03):
You talk?
Speaker 2 (05:05):
Okay, so healthy homes. Yes, it's been the very stressful
time for landlords having to make sure that their rental
properties are you know, livable.
Speaker 3 (05:18):
Four old landlords and as of today there'll be in
big drub drubs they're not.
Speaker 6 (05:24):
Do you know how many rentals we're talking about with
thirty percent failing, it's about one hundred and eighty thousand
rentals in this country. That is massive, and I'm sorry
to say, but frankly, just because of the maths, the
cost of getting a villa up to scratch is maybe
I would say fifteen thousand dollars maybe more. The fine
though for doing so if you get caught, and that
(05:45):
is a big if if you get caught, given there
are thousands of landlords out there in the same boat.
It's about two four hundred dollars for the first offense,
so I'm told. And if you were a re peat offender,
maybe you get fined seven two hundred dollars. Now, I think,
just based on that maths right, if you get caught,
the fine is tiny compared to how much you end
(06:06):
up paying. I think that explains why so many of
these landlords haven't done it. It was said at the
time that these rules were brought in that the rules
were too harsh, too expensive, and that they lift rentals
to a standard above what even landlords live in. And
I think the numbers that we're seeing today ahead of
the rules actually kicking in tomorrow, I think the numbers
bear that out.
Speaker 3 (06:24):
What do you reckon?
Speaker 2 (06:26):
I reckon when they say that the standards above what
landlords actually live in.
Speaker 3 (06:32):
I picture landlords.
Speaker 2 (06:35):
It's being quite stingy about things like how much heat
that they use in.
Speaker 3 (06:38):
Their own houses. For example, we're freezing in there and
they just say, ah, stop your wedding, put on and
pick a coach. Right, Let's look across the taarsman. Now
to the.
Speaker 2 (06:51):
Mushrooms and the trial and well and beef Wellington for
that matter.
Speaker 7 (06:58):
I don't think I've ever had beef Wellington, said, you
ever had beef Wellington?
Speaker 8 (07:03):
Beg your pardon?
Speaker 7 (07:03):
Dere have you ever had beef Wellington?
Speaker 8 (07:08):
And I'm ringing from Carpody Coast here.
Speaker 2 (07:11):
Brilliant, that's what we need today, Patricia, Yes, Patricia, while
asking you, have you ever cocked beef Wellington?
Speaker 8 (07:21):
No? I haven't. And I'm ninety four today.
Speaker 3 (07:24):
Happy birthday, you're very much.
Speaker 1 (07:27):
Wow, lovely day and did you people coming in?
Speaker 8 (07:35):
Lots of flowers? And I had another lovely friend came
in who'd been away for about four or five days
up until Ranana, and she arrived back in Wellington today
and she was around well, the biggest ever seen, got
all the lights on the candles, you know the automatic
little lights you light, and took the photos. And she's
(07:59):
got me holding the cake with ninety four on.
Speaker 3 (08:02):
Us right now. And are you in a village or.
Speaker 8 (08:05):
You on your own?
Speaker 3 (08:05):
Are you a home?
Speaker 8 (08:06):
No? No, no, I'm in my parent's family home.
Speaker 3 (08:10):
Great well, the lubbish of your parents aren't still there? Wow?
He went there.
Speaker 2 (08:17):
I mean I was going to make a similar observation,
but Marc has sort of beat me too. The French.
As you get into the ninety four and never having
had beef Wellington, I mean, you're probably better off not
having it.
Speaker 3 (08:32):
By the sounds of things, I.
Speaker 1 (08:33):
Guess news talk has it.
Speaker 2 (08:36):
Been seemed to be one of those complicated things people, well,
and a bit like lemon merangu pied is a lot
of different. It's a complicated, man, there's a complicated way
to kill somebody. Just make it from the mushroom sauce
and serve a steak. Oh, that's more straightforward.
Speaker 3 (08:54):
Hey do you want to Buddha statue?
Speaker 2 (08:57):
Why don't you want to but a statue? But a
statues all right, don't they?
Speaker 9 (09:01):
Well, I don't mind a large buddher. There is already
a Buddhist settlement up there, a Buddhist monastery actually in
kael kopper Coop, slightly to the coming south from where
this is being built. This is not a normal Buddha.
I want to know what sect this Buddha is connected with?
Speaker 7 (09:20):
Well, it's The people behind the project is Jita's Grove
Charitable Trusts. They're a member of the New Zealand Buddhist Council.
They exist to spread and teach the Buddhist faith. They
founding documents are filed with the Charities Register. So they've
done every They've jump through all the bills for all I.
Speaker 9 (09:38):
Know, they've done everything. But I think everybody's saying they're
building this large Buddher. In most people's minds, they would
be thinking of the sitting Buddha. This is a man
standing with.
Speaker 7 (09:50):
I'll explained to you, yes quite right, as a big
old man. He's standing up, he's got his right arm
out on his left arm, he holds a staff. He
is standing, he's standing, and he's fifty foot high.
Speaker 9 (10:02):
It would be nice to have an explanation of why
which sector is from I mean New Zealand. But there
are buddhis sex, just like in Christianity or other religions.
Why most usually the Buddha. I'd like to know what
Buddha it is just I mean, I don't mind it
being there, but I think why why?
Speaker 1 (10:20):
What?
Speaker 3 (10:21):
Why?
Speaker 7 (10:21):
Why do you need to know what sector is? Are
there bad ones and good ones or what?
Speaker 9 (10:26):
But there are different Buddhers. There's Buddhas of this, there's
Buddhas is there, and I just wonder which buddh of
it is. Because everyone's saying Buddha, you straight away think
it's going to be a Buddha like you're used to seeing.
Speaker 7 (10:37):
You mean, the big, fat, cheery ones that sit on
the top of Japanese mountains.
Speaker 9 (10:41):
There's robes, and there is a very large buddher at
the kal Kopa Koppa monastery that the Dalai Lama went
and blessed and everything when that was built. That's quite
a There's a very big one on one of the
temples in Ellerslie, Lovely. I have no objection to one.
I'm just it's just a very odd It's not like
(11:03):
I can't think of it as a buddher.
Speaker 2 (11:04):
You think it's kind of a I don't really have
a much Venanda's standing of how Buddhism works, but I
as far as I do understand it, I think the
buddher does take several like is everywhere all around us
all the time, in many different forms how it works.
I love a big statue though it was in Bali
(11:28):
last year. Man, they had a big statue. I don't
know what that was about, but man, it was a
big statue. You can see it from a long way away.
It's quite cool. Does you does your head in a
bit when you see a big statue like that, You think, oh,
that looks close, and then you realize no, it's just
really giant, and in fact it's not close. There's a
(11:49):
bit of that going on with this this one. It'd
be cool. Yeah, which border is best? That's I think
that's what Callum wants to know.
Speaker 3 (12:02):
I am Glen hat.
Speaker 2 (12:03):
I look a bit like the budder with the help
a bit to be honest, and I think she's right.
I think that's the one we like them. Rab for
coming to lack. I wish I can get people to
rrab my tummy, but they just are not not into it.
Speaker 3 (12:21):
I'll see you Beck. I'll just carry on with these
random thoughts. I'd probably should keep them to myself. I'll
carry on thinking of them to myself, and I'll be
back to share some more random ones with you tomorrow.
Speaker 1 (12:30):
Season Use Talking Talking Said Bean for more from News
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podcast on iHeartRadio.
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