July 9, 2025 • 12 mins
FIRST WITH YESTERDAY'S NEWS (highlights from Wednesday on Newstalk ZB) So... Totally Pointless/Gambling; Definitely a Problem and Still Unsolved/Zombie Moa Apocalypse
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Speaker 1 (00:09):
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Speaker 3 (00:24):
Hello, my beautiful beanies, and welcome to the bean for Thursday.
First of Yesterday's news. I am Brian Hart, and we
are looking back at Wednesday and we need to discuss
problem gambling because people are committing major crimes in order
to pay their gambling debts. So we'll get into this
(00:50):
the bringing the MOA back. It's going to be a
zombie MOA apocalypse, That's what I'm forecasting. There more details
on that come, but first up, ongoing handbringing over the
COVID inquiry. It's not just just under a. We want
to break over the colls. Chris Hipkins has to answer
(01:11):
for his historical crimes as well, apparently.
Speaker 4 (01:14):
But the thing about this commission is that it is
not a trial. It's an inquiry. It's a show trial. Really,
it's a political thing, and Chris Hipkins is still in
the political game, unlike to Sindradern, so he needs to
handle this thing well. He was the Minister of Health
during the pandemic. In fact, he was the Minister of
just about everything. Because he was the most competent in
his party. So if he wants to be the leader
(01:35):
of this party going into the next election, he really
must turn up and face that cross examination of what
he was part of. But we know what he did,
it's already there in black and white. But what we
don't know is the thought processes that drove his actions,
and we haven't had the chance to question him. And
what we don't know is his thoughts with hindsight as
to what he might have done better. So if he's
(01:56):
honest about learning lessons about the pandemic management, because there's
going to be another pandemic in the future, then he
really must turn up and face the heat. It'll be
good for him, it'll be good for us if he doesn't.
The conspiracy thing is that he mentioned yesterday will bring
all their biers to bear against him next election. So
Chris Hipkins has choices face up and tell the truth,
(02:17):
stand apart and let speculation of what he calls, or
buy what he calls conspiracy theorists run wild, or just quit,
quit his aspiration to become prime minister one more time
and enjoy a retirement from public life. It's in your
court Chris where that.
Speaker 3 (02:32):
People can't be compelled to appear before these things, aren't
they Well, what's the use of it? They can't be
I don't understand how many of this stuff works, but yeah,
I mean it is completely pointless if the main protagonists
you can just go ah, yeah, I don't really feel
(02:53):
like it.
Speaker 2 (02:55):
News talk has it been right?
Speaker 3 (02:57):
So we've got this case of this bloke who've committed
major fraud in order to pay his gamblin debts. This
is a real yeah mob style situation because he has
been given the hard word and so you had to
get the money from somewhere.
Speaker 5 (03:15):
But just throwing money to the Ministry of Health and
thinking oh there we go, job done is not good enough.
They have to show that the millions of dollars they
have been granted have done some good. And this hasn't
come out of the blue. This is not some goodness.
Gracious me. Well, we never expected to be asked where
the money went. Oh well, you know, we'll see what
we can do to find it. In twenty nineteen they
(03:37):
were asked to account for the money. They didn't, so
in twenty twenty two they were told to carry out
a major strategic review of its problem gambling strategy, and
they didn't. And then they had the temerity to come
back and ask for more money. Yeah, you know who
asked us to tell you where the money was and
(03:59):
we didn't. And then ussd us to carry out a
major strategic review to show what worked and what didn't,
and we didn't do that. Can we have another eleven
million dollars? No. So you'll probably see stories in the
media saying government refuses to help gambling addicts. Yet another
helpline turned off as government refuses to fund Problem Gambling Foundation. Well,
(04:28):
the reason why is because they've been shown what works
and what doesn't. And I don't think that's unreasonable. If
you want ninety two million dollars, then you have to
show what you're spending it on, not just for the
sake of the money and of the sake of proper accounting,
but for the sake of the addicts. It's so hard
(04:51):
for addicts to know they have a problem before it's
too late. I'm talking about any addiction, and when you
reach out for help, you need that help to be there.
Speaker 3 (05:01):
It's weird that most of the stuff I know about
addiction I've learned from movies, about people who are addicted
to things, and you know you watch their descend into madness.
Because one thing I've learned from those movies and TV
programs is what do they call it bottoming out? Or
you know, you've got to hit the bottom before you
(05:26):
know you'll actually seek out or listen to an intervention
or whatever.
Speaker 2 (05:32):
So yeah, you do.
Speaker 3 (05:33):
I'm just trying to think of any of those movies
and TV programs. If anybody saw an eight hundred number
and rang it, I mean probably it probably does happen,
but I don't know. You talk right onto the main
topic of discussion for the podcast today, bringing back the MOA,
(05:54):
because that's important. I suppose that we do that.
Speaker 6 (05:58):
And then there's the obvious but awkward issue of being
a bird with no wings, a bird that can't fly.
Can we so embarrassed by this that they only come
out at night in case anyone notices this deformity? But
MA up to three and a half meters tall in
broad daylight, quite hard to miss. It's you know, you
(06:19):
can't hide behind a tree, can you. You can't hide
behind another bird. You're the biggest one in the bush.
They'll stick out like the skytower. Anyway, that'll be more
fodder for the podcast, no doubt. So to the ma
who we will soon raise from the dead, Welcome to
a brand new world. Welcome to the world you deserved
(06:39):
from the beginning.
Speaker 3 (06:40):
So yeah, Ryan campaigning for justice for MOA's not all
MOA or something. I'm quite sure what he was trying
to do there sounded entertaining, though, of course with a
subject like this it's important that we get Marcus's take
(07:00):
as well.
Speaker 7 (07:01):
The MOA won't happen because yeah, I follow that information
fairly closely about the dire wolves, and they were just
standard wolves made slightly to look like dire wolves. They
just change some of the DNA to not really die
wolves as such. So yeah, they'll just find a bird.
It'll just be like ostriches. They'll just bring ostriches and
put some MAA DNA to make them look slightly more
(07:25):
like mawers, but they won't be bringing back Moers. So
it's slightly disingenuous the talking about that. So although people
get excited by it, I don't know where you'd want them.
If it happens in forty years, go for it, but yeah,
it's not going to happen in ten years. Where would
you put them?
Speaker 6 (07:40):
I don't know.
Speaker 7 (07:41):
I think probably our whole ecosystems change so much. I'm
not quite sure if you bring the moers back, if
they will be a good thing or a bad thing.
And often you won't find the resultant it's too until
it's too late. But anyway, here we go. They'll get
people talking for a couple of years. They want it
a millionaire headlike headlines saying in a Jurassic Park type situation. Ah,
(08:05):
people love that. Anyway, I think it's probably more exciting
birds to bring back anyway, rather than the moa. Let's
start with some of the smaller, more exciting ones, perhaps
like the Huea or something like that.
Speaker 6 (08:16):
That might be better.
Speaker 7 (08:17):
But anyway, I think it's a long, long long way away.
Interesting that Paris Hilton's involved with financing it, which I
thought was quite good.
Speaker 3 (08:24):
He's still going to be so contrary, doesn't he? Marcus
He can't get But I would have thought this would
have been right up as Ellie bringing back with Ma.
But he wants a smaller, more exciting But didn't we
I think we used to have some kind of giant hawk.
Going back a bit, everything was giant back in the day,
(08:46):
wasn't it. Oh yeah, I mean, I mean I'm against
it because you know they'll be.
Speaker 2 (08:57):
Zombie.
Speaker 3 (08:57):
Ma I've seen all this. Once again, I refer to
my main reference, which is movies, particularly the Resident Evil movie.
And you know, I've seen what happens when you wander
around Raccoon City and you see Virginia Deque modified beasts
(09:21):
and you have to deal with those. It's not easy. Yeah,
I don't want to be coming up against a zombie mo.
I guess you know, we'll unleash that Pandora's box and
we'll be all over.
Speaker 2 (09:40):
From that point on news talk has it been?
Speaker 3 (09:45):
I mean you do have to wonder what they taste like.
I guess ultimately.
Speaker 8 (09:48):
Must have been quite tasty. You imagine you can imagine
Moa Breweries in Marlborough there maybe getting on board and
they could genuinely have burgers and beers Maa and Moa.
Speaker 5 (10:02):
Yeah.
Speaker 9 (10:04):
Yeah, well, I mean, why why wouldn't you? I mean,
there would be an argument. The best way for you
to prezis a species is to make it useful and
if you if you wanted to keep more around forever,
then eat them, because then we farm them. I mean,
look how many sheep and cattle we have in this country.
If you know, we would we spend a lot of
time keeping sheep and cattle going because we can eat them.
Speaker 8 (10:24):
The only thing I'm worried about, though, is, of course
they had to be hunted with spears and other weapons.
I mean, how violent were they? Are they going to
turn into velociraptors? And you know that's that You're walking
on a mountain trail and you come face to face
with a giant moa. I mean yeah, he'll throw some
bird seed out and run away.
Speaker 9 (10:42):
Well what about the castle warrah? I mean what if
they're cassowary? I mean that that is a pretty violent
bird that takes out a lot of humans. Yeah, I
mean how many people? How many people have been killed
by cassa warriors?
Speaker 6 (10:54):
I think it's right up there.
Speaker 9 (10:55):
I think the cassary kills more people than lions. Cassa
warres are generally considered dangerous due to their powerful kicks
and sharp claws. We do more have powerful kicks and
sharp claws. Are only two human deaths caused by castleries
have been recorded since nineteen hundred, one in Australia and
one in Florida.
Speaker 3 (11:12):
There was a classic fucking a fact out of mid
air from Tyler. There wasn't it. I think Cass Worry
are more responsible for more deaths and lines. It's the
kind of thing that people here as they're flicking through stations,
and then they think that that is a fact from
that point, and then they'll post that, and then AI
(11:35):
will read that post and that will assume it's a fact,
and then people will google it. Jem and I will
do some research and it will confirm that that is
a fact, and then it will become a fact. There
you go, bringing Backmar and Ai all in one podcast.
(11:57):
You've got to be happy with that. See you back
here again tomorrow.
Speaker 2 (12:01):
Us Talk for more from News Talk said B.
Speaker 1 (12:07):
Listen live or online, and keep our shows with you
wherever you go with our podcasts on iHeartRadio.
You're listening to a podcast from News Talk, said b
follow this and our wide range of podcasts now on iHeartRadio.
Speaker 2 (00:20):
Used Talk said, be you Talk.
Speaker 3 (00:24):
Hello, my beautiful beanies, and welcome to the bean for Thursday.
First of Yesterday's news. I am Brian Hart, and we
are looking back at Wednesday and we need to discuss
problem gambling because people are committing major crimes in order
to pay their gambling debts. So we'll get into this
(00:50):
the bringing the MOA back. It's going to be a
zombie MOA apocalypse, That's what I'm forecasting. There more details
on that come, but first up, ongoing handbringing over the
COVID inquiry. It's not just just under a. We want
to break over the colls. Chris Hipkins has to answer
(01:11):
for his historical crimes as well, apparently.
Speaker 4 (01:14):
But the thing about this commission is that it is
not a trial. It's an inquiry. It's a show trial. Really,
it's a political thing, and Chris Hipkins is still in
the political game, unlike to Sindradern, so he needs to
handle this thing well. He was the Minister of Health
during the pandemic. In fact, he was the Minister of
just about everything. Because he was the most competent in
his party. So if he wants to be the leader
(01:35):
of this party going into the next election, he really
must turn up and face that cross examination of what
he was part of. But we know what he did,
it's already there in black and white. But what we
don't know is the thought processes that drove his actions,
and we haven't had the chance to question him. And
what we don't know is his thoughts with hindsight as
to what he might have done better. So if he's
(01:56):
honest about learning lessons about the pandemic management, because there's
going to be another pandemic in the future, then he
really must turn up and face the heat. It'll be
good for him, it'll be good for us if he doesn't.
The conspiracy thing is that he mentioned yesterday will bring
all their biers to bear against him next election. So
Chris Hipkins has choices face up and tell the truth,
(02:17):
stand apart and let speculation of what he calls, or
buy what he calls conspiracy theorists run wild, or just quit,
quit his aspiration to become prime minister one more time
and enjoy a retirement from public life. It's in your
court Chris where that.
Speaker 3 (02:32):
People can't be compelled to appear before these things, aren't
they Well, what's the use of it? They can't be
I don't understand how many of this stuff works, but yeah,
I mean it is completely pointless if the main protagonists
you can just go ah, yeah, I don't really feel
(02:53):
like it.
Speaker 2 (02:55):
News talk has it been right?
Speaker 3 (02:57):
So we've got this case of this bloke who've committed
major fraud in order to pay his gamblin debts. This
is a real yeah mob style situation because he has
been given the hard word and so you had to
get the money from somewhere.
Speaker 5 (03:15):
But just throwing money to the Ministry of Health and
thinking oh there we go, job done is not good enough.
They have to show that the millions of dollars they
have been granted have done some good. And this hasn't
come out of the blue. This is not some goodness.
Gracious me. Well, we never expected to be asked where
the money went. Oh well, you know, we'll see what
we can do to find it. In twenty nineteen they
(03:37):
were asked to account for the money. They didn't, so
in twenty twenty two they were told to carry out
a major strategic review of its problem gambling strategy, and
they didn't. And then they had the temerity to come
back and ask for more money. Yeah, you know who
asked us to tell you where the money was and
(03:59):
we didn't. And then ussd us to carry out a
major strategic review to show what worked and what didn't,
and we didn't do that. Can we have another eleven
million dollars? No. So you'll probably see stories in the
media saying government refuses to help gambling addicts. Yet another
helpline turned off as government refuses to fund Problem Gambling Foundation. Well,
(04:28):
the reason why is because they've been shown what works
and what doesn't. And I don't think that's unreasonable. If
you want ninety two million dollars, then you have to
show what you're spending it on, not just for the
sake of the money and of the sake of proper accounting,
but for the sake of the addicts. It's so hard
(04:51):
for addicts to know they have a problem before it's
too late. I'm talking about any addiction, and when you
reach out for help, you need that help to be there.
Speaker 3 (05:01):
It's weird that most of the stuff I know about
addiction I've learned from movies, about people who are addicted
to things, and you know you watch their descend into madness.
Because one thing I've learned from those movies and TV
programs is what do they call it bottoming out? Or
you know, you've got to hit the bottom before you
(05:26):
know you'll actually seek out or listen to an intervention
or whatever.
Speaker 2 (05:32):
So yeah, you do.
Speaker 3 (05:33):
I'm just trying to think of any of those movies
and TV programs. If anybody saw an eight hundred number
and rang it, I mean probably it probably does happen,
but I don't know. You talk right onto the main
topic of discussion for the podcast today, bringing back the MOA,
(05:54):
because that's important. I suppose that we do that.
Speaker 6 (05:58):
And then there's the obvious but awkward issue of being
a bird with no wings, a bird that can't fly.
Can we so embarrassed by this that they only come
out at night in case anyone notices this deformity? But
MA up to three and a half meters tall in
broad daylight, quite hard to miss. It's you know, you
(06:19):
can't hide behind a tree, can you. You can't hide
behind another bird. You're the biggest one in the bush.
They'll stick out like the skytower. Anyway, that'll be more
fodder for the podcast, no doubt. So to the ma
who we will soon raise from the dead, Welcome to
a brand new world. Welcome to the world you deserved
(06:39):
from the beginning.
Speaker 3 (06:40):
So yeah, Ryan campaigning for justice for MOA's not all
MOA or something. I'm quite sure what he was trying
to do there sounded entertaining, though, of course with a
subject like this it's important that we get Marcus's take
(07:00):
as well.
Speaker 7 (07:01):
The MOA won't happen because yeah, I follow that information
fairly closely about the dire wolves, and they were just
standard wolves made slightly to look like dire wolves. They
just change some of the DNA to not really die
wolves as such. So yeah, they'll just find a bird.
It'll just be like ostriches. They'll just bring ostriches and
put some MAA DNA to make them look slightly more
(07:25):
like mawers, but they won't be bringing back Moers. So
it's slightly disingenuous the talking about that. So although people
get excited by it, I don't know where you'd want them.
If it happens in forty years, go for it, but yeah,
it's not going to happen in ten years. Where would
you put them?
Speaker 6 (07:40):
I don't know.
Speaker 7 (07:41):
I think probably our whole ecosystems change so much. I'm
not quite sure if you bring the moers back, if
they will be a good thing or a bad thing.
And often you won't find the resultant it's too until
it's too late. But anyway, here we go. They'll get
people talking for a couple of years. They want it
a millionaire headlike headlines saying in a Jurassic Park type situation. Ah,
(08:05):
people love that. Anyway, I think it's probably more exciting
birds to bring back anyway, rather than the moa. Let's
start with some of the smaller, more exciting ones, perhaps
like the Huea or something like that.
Speaker 6 (08:16):
That might be better.
Speaker 7 (08:17):
But anyway, I think it's a long, long long way away.
Interesting that Paris Hilton's involved with financing it, which I
thought was quite good.
Speaker 3 (08:24):
He's still going to be so contrary, doesn't he? Marcus
He can't get But I would have thought this would
have been right up as Ellie bringing back with Ma.
But he wants a smaller, more exciting But didn't we
I think we used to have some kind of giant hawk.
Going back a bit, everything was giant back in the day,
(08:46):
wasn't it. Oh yeah, I mean, I mean I'm against
it because you know they'll be.
Speaker 2 (08:57):
Zombie.
Speaker 3 (08:57):
Ma I've seen all this. Once again, I refer to
my main reference, which is movies, particularly the Resident Evil movie.
And you know, I've seen what happens when you wander
around Raccoon City and you see Virginia Deque modified beasts
(09:21):
and you have to deal with those. It's not easy. Yeah,
I don't want to be coming up against a zombie mo.
I guess you know, we'll unleash that Pandora's box and
we'll be all over.
Speaker 2 (09:40):
From that point on news talk has it been?
Speaker 3 (09:45):
I mean you do have to wonder what they taste like.
I guess ultimately.
Speaker 8 (09:48):
Must have been quite tasty. You imagine you can imagine
Moa Breweries in Marlborough there maybe getting on board and
they could genuinely have burgers and beers Maa and Moa.
Speaker 5 (10:02):
Yeah.
Speaker 9 (10:04):
Yeah, well, I mean, why why wouldn't you? I mean,
there would be an argument. The best way for you
to prezis a species is to make it useful and
if you if you wanted to keep more around forever,
then eat them, because then we farm them. I mean,
look how many sheep and cattle we have in this country.
If you know, we would we spend a lot of
time keeping sheep and cattle going because we can eat them.
Speaker 8 (10:24):
The only thing I'm worried about, though, is, of course
they had to be hunted with spears and other weapons.
I mean, how violent were they? Are they going to
turn into velociraptors? And you know that's that You're walking
on a mountain trail and you come face to face
with a giant moa. I mean yeah, he'll throw some
bird seed out and run away.
Speaker 9 (10:42):
Well what about the castle warrah? I mean what if
they're cassowary? I mean that that is a pretty violent
bird that takes out a lot of humans. Yeah, I
mean how many people? How many people have been killed
by cassa warriors?
Speaker 6 (10:54):
I think it's right up there.
Speaker 9 (10:55):
I think the cassary kills more people than lions. Cassa
warres are generally considered dangerous due to their powerful kicks
and sharp claws. We do more have powerful kicks and
sharp claws. Are only two human deaths caused by castleries
have been recorded since nineteen hundred, one in Australia and
one in Florida.
Speaker 3 (11:12):
There was a classic fucking a fact out of mid
air from Tyler. There wasn't it. I think Cass Worry
are more responsible for more deaths and lines. It's the
kind of thing that people here as they're flicking through stations,
and then they think that that is a fact from
that point, and then they'll post that, and then AI
(11:35):
will read that post and that will assume it's a fact,
and then people will google it. Jem and I will
do some research and it will confirm that that is
a fact, and then it will become a fact. There
you go, bringing Backmar and Ai all in one podcast.
(11:57):
You've got to be happy with that. See you back
here again tomorrow.
Speaker 2 (12:01):
Us Talk for more from News Talk said B.
Speaker 1 (12:07):
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