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September 8, 2025 • 12 mins

FIRST WITH YESTERDAY'S NEWS (highlights from Monday on Newstalk ZB) Get That Ole Dog Whistle Out Again/Bald-faced Power Grab/When In Doubt, Dump Your Leader/That About Wraps it Up for Trains/Fathers Day Isn't That Difficult

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Speaker 1 (00:09):
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Speaker 2 (00:23):
Hello, loveis are welcome to the Been for Tuesday. First
of yesterday's news. I am Glen Hart. We're looking back
at Monday. So Stuart Nash is off the act obviously,
despite of everybody say, oh, it's not happening yet. So
anyway and I we'll talk about that and national parties

(00:44):
sort of goldrooms that they're in at the moment, whole wise,
popular already riot wise, and what.

Speaker 3 (00:50):
The way out of that is.

Speaker 2 (00:51):
It's getting rid of lux on the way out. Marcus
talks trains, not for the first time, but I think
he's been shocked by how much it cost to go
on one.

Speaker 3 (01:04):
And we'll find out what met got for Father's Day.

Speaker 2 (01:09):
But first New Zealand first, and their shindig over the weekend.

Speaker 3 (01:14):
Are they gaining momentum?

Speaker 4 (01:17):
Peters said the party was responsible for getting Cabinet to
agree to bring legislation to the House very shortly making
English an official language of New Zealand. As is generally
the case with election campaign promises, there wasn't a great
deal of specific detail. No costings from Peters on how

(01:39):
much the key We Saver policy would cost or how
it would be implemented, other than to say the rise
and contributions would be staggered first eight percent than ten.
But let him be perfectly clear. There is life in
the old boy yet, and he is determined to get
himself and New Zealand First back into Parliament and back

(02:02):
into government with even more sway than he had this
time around. As far as Weston Peters is concerned, as
far as Winston Peters is concerned, twenty five as in
twenty twenty five is done and dusted. It is twenty
twenty six. Baby New Zealand First is on the road

(02:24):
looking to win over voters who are unimpressed and underwhelmed
by national and labor.

Speaker 3 (02:30):
It's such a groundhog day thing, this isn't it? You know?
The anti foreigner.

Speaker 2 (02:42):
English official English is an official language. I thought we
had three official languages.

Speaker 3 (02:48):
Is that not true?

Speaker 2 (02:50):
I thought we had English today and Sign language. I
thought they were our three official languages.

Speaker 3 (02:56):
So is he trying to make English the only official language?
I don't know what's happening.

Speaker 1 (03:02):
News talk ze been.

Speaker 2 (03:04):
So anyway, as part of all this, Stuart nature appears
to be a cargan the ENZ first wheel.

Speaker 5 (03:11):
Now they have had a huge number of politicians defect
to Reform and every single time it happens, the news
media covers it and it makes Reform look like the
party with the momentum. That is what New Zealand First
is trying to do. That's why you had both Stuart Nash,
formerly of Labor and Hardeza hippung Or formerly of National
at the conference over the weekend. Now, despite the circumstances
of Stuart leaving Parliament, he's actually a really big defection

(03:35):
from Labour because he's a very capable politician. He managed
to turn a Napier into a red seat in twenty fourteen,
which was despite the popularity of the Key government at
the time. He was one of the few ministers in
the Arderne administration that voters on the right actually had
time for. And I think it's because he's a proper
c interest in the Labor Party, not crazy left like

(03:55):
a lot of them, Marp a little bit more to
the right, which is why he's probably going to find
a better home for himself in New Zealand First than
the Labour Party of twenty twenty five. Now, if I
don't know if Labor realizes what they've lost with Stuart
Nash leaving. I mean, of course he's really been out
of Labor since the moment Chippy fired him. But I
don't think they even realized then what they'd lost because
they haven't replaced him. And what I mean by that

(04:16):
is they haven't gone looking for another true centrist politician.
Back in the days, the Labor Party had heaps of them.
May they had Phil Goff, David Shearer, Richard ple Just
going back through time, Richard Preble, Roger Douglas, Mike Moore,
it wasn't that unusual to have a good little centrist
alrighty sitting in the Labor Party. Now, name one for me.
I mean, you might have once been able to say Chippy,

(04:37):
but he's allowed himself to be pulled so far to
the left I'm not sure you could call him a
centrist anymore. Now you cannot as a Labor Party went
over the center voter if you do not have politicians
that the center voter likes, and Stuart Nash I think
was probably the last one of them. I would say
total coup for New Zealand.

Speaker 2 (04:53):
First, the more I think about it, though, it's just
such a bum faced paragrab from Nash. You know, don't
worry too much about what the policies actually are. I mean,
how do you think he feels about the whole Let's
make English the only official language in New Zealand?

Speaker 1 (05:14):
Have you do?

Speaker 3 (05:15):
You reckon? He's right right on behind that one. Yeah,
there's it really is a great to me. But he's
what he's worked out.

Speaker 2 (05:23):
And of course what Winston has known for ever under
m MP is that you can wag the dog so hard.

Speaker 3 (05:30):
This is what Seymour and Winston.

Speaker 2 (05:32):
Why have they got so much power they shouldn't have
that they are overrepresented in the in the power balance
and that's the whole problem with the m MP man
I'm worked out for that talk. Is that why people
are over a bet over national at the moment that
it seems like they're not calling the shots the minor

(05:53):
coalition partners are.

Speaker 6 (05:55):
This has shortened Luxeon's window for a real economic recovery,
which is the platform he's relying on for reelection. Right
talk of a leadership coup yet again by Christmas is
in my view completely duffed. Any national mp who thinks
they can outpoll Luxon in the current climate's got to
be dreaming a short term bump maybe, but there are

(06:15):
political costs, namely instability.

Speaker 3 (06:18):
Remember Muller.

Speaker 6 (06:21):
Then this newly elected leader has to go cap in
hand to Winston and David and no doubt relitigate all
in Sundry just after the latter began firing up for
a showdown. Winston and Shamer in full flight at the weekend,
you would have seen that It's only September twenty twenty five.
Timing is everything, and that is Luxon's card to play.
In twelve months from now, the country will likely feel

(06:45):
a much different place to live, and that means a
later election. If the Nats are smart, they'll stick with
the devil they know and wait for brighter days ahead.
The risks outweigh the benefits at this point in the cycle.
If needs be, a transition can happen in pretty short order.

Speaker 3 (07:05):
Just ask just into Redoon. Yeah, we saw it with
a Durn. We saw it with Kei as well. There
the sort of relatively no baggage.

Speaker 2 (07:14):
There were sort of people that didn't really have a
lot of baggage when they suddenly were elevated into power
and it was really a breath of fresh air, which
indeed lux and himself was.

Speaker 3 (07:25):
Of course, he'd sort of.

Speaker 2 (07:27):
You know, he hadn't been doing it for that long
before he was the Great White Hope said an unfortunate
turn of phrase. Right, So the trans Alpine it's a
railway line, scenic railway, I think sort of thing Marcus

(07:50):
lash I think he's sort of in the trains.

Speaker 3 (07:53):
I think he did ad show.

Speaker 2 (07:54):
About trains at Won't Stay, But I don't think he's
into paying as much as they want him to go
on it.

Speaker 7 (08:01):
So to go from christ Church to Graymouth, which should
be a standard train trip, right, you should be able
to do it for a family of four, it costs
two thousand dollars. It's cheap in the.

Speaker 3 (08:15):
Flight, isn't he so?

Speaker 7 (08:18):
Either in New ze and rail is a completely incompetent,
which I suggest, I mean, why are they running something
and it's so expensive it's unbelievable. I mean one hundred
bucks there and back two hundred maybe, but five hundred
A person.

Speaker 6 (08:35):
Could not believe that.

Speaker 7 (08:37):
You might want to mention that also because you know,
I mean we want rail back, but we don't want
rail just for tourists that cost a fortune. Couldn't believe
it when I saw the prices. That's no way to
do it. Evening, Marcus've got a Metro card today. A

(08:58):
trip from Littleton to Diamond Harbor returned five dollars. That
is for the community service car. Cheap.

Speaker 3 (09:03):
I thought.

Speaker 7 (09:03):
Jason, my daughter and I Marcus did the Transipine Gold
class last year. It cost eight to fifty for both
of us, my husband and guy going next month. The
prices in Crest over one thousand. This should be a
fifty buck train trip.

Speaker 3 (09:22):
It's not far. Le's than tred miles, about one hundred
and fifty miles.

Speaker 7 (09:27):
It should be a fifty buck train trip for people
on the coast to get across to christ Churtch for appointments.

Speaker 3 (09:34):
But this is it, isn't it. There's a lot of
Emperor's New closed things around. Some of this stuff isn't there.
I think we.

Speaker 2 (09:42):
Know that rail, certainly passenger rail is not sustainable in
this country. We don't have the infrastructure, we don't have
the it's not in the right places, it's not the
right it's not set up the right way.

Speaker 3 (09:58):
I mean to Huia, the Hamilton orphan thing.

Speaker 2 (10:03):
It's not necessarily cheaper, it doesn't necessarily faster. It's just
sort of like if you want to go on the train,
you can, And that's not really a reason for having
these things.

Speaker 3 (10:13):
So it can't be fifty bucks because they can't run
it for that news talk has it been?

Speaker 2 (10:19):
Oh I'm so worked up today. I don't know why
I'm so worked out. I had a reasonably relaxing Father's Day.

Speaker 6 (10:24):
How about Matt, how was your Father's Day?

Speaker 4 (10:27):
Oh?

Speaker 8 (10:27):
Thank you for asking. I had an absolutely fantastic Father's Day.
Like all the dads that were ringing through, you just
want to spend time with your kids. But my two
sons got together and they decided to go out to
the supermarket and buy some ingredients and make me a
delicious lunch together. My two sons good boys. But worryingly,
the dish they made was a beef Wellington, right, And

(10:50):
when they served up the beef Wellington, each one of
the beef Wellington's had a different face on it. So
I was wondering, do they know who's having witch? And
you know, I didn't see them going out to the
field to collec mushrooms or anything. So look and just
love my kids. So I just went and ate the
beef Wellington. I didn't wait for other people to eat
it to see if it was poison And good news,

(11:12):
my kids weren't trying to poison me.

Speaker 5 (11:14):
That had some high level trolling like father, like son.

Speaker 3 (11:16):
May that is some good work from your boys.

Speaker 8 (11:19):
Beef Wellington is a delicious thing. I know that hasn't
turned out great in Australia in recent years, but a
beef Wellington done well by two sons that love you, yeah,
is a beautiful, beautiful thing. So thank you to one
of my fantastic boys, Chairs and Bears.

Speaker 2 (11:34):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (11:35):
What a great lunch. Hard thing to pull off, I've
got to say.

Speaker 5 (11:37):
So, some good chiefs in your family, mate, Yeah, yeah, absolutely.

Speaker 8 (11:40):
And they also had a side of Brussels sprouts that
they made delicious as well.

Speaker 3 (11:43):
I saw that in the photo.

Speaker 5 (11:44):
You lucky lucky man looked really good.

Speaker 6 (11:46):
Yeah.

Speaker 8 (11:46):
I mean that's a high level of difficulty. Delicious Brussels
sprouts and a non fatal beef wellington.

Speaker 3 (11:53):
Yeah, well, those two boys.

Speaker 2 (11:54):
I'd be so annoyed if somebody serving me Brussels sprouts
on Father's Day. I actually got two different bottles of bourbon.
I've got two people who get me presents on Father's
Day and they finally after I mean, one of them's,
what is she twenty four now, and she's it's taken

(12:17):
her that long to figure out that all I want
is a bottle of bourbon, and they finally figured it out.

Speaker 3 (12:26):
I feel like my work is done now that I've
managed to get.

Speaker 2 (12:28):
That through to them. Certainly not Brussels Sprouse, Jesus, It's
certainly not Petere Wellington. I'm assuming that was a joke.
That was a funny jokes going what was going on there.
It was kind of revenge for him calling them bears
and chairs. I am a glen hat a license to

(12:48):
tell dad jokes, two licenses.

Speaker 3 (12:50):
I will see you back here again tomorrow for more
of them.

Speaker 1 (12:53):
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