February 18, 2025 • 11 mins
FIRST WITH YESTERDAY'S NEWS (highlights from Tuesday on Newstalk ZB) There Are All Kinds of Reasons for Leaving/Dodgy Data Saga Drags On/Moving On Up/Most Boring Show Ever?/Laptop Dining Discussion Sweeps the Nation
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Speaker 1 (00:09):
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Speaker 2 (00:22):
Hello, my beautiful meanings, and welcome to the Bean for Wednesday.
First of yesterday's news. I am Glen Hart, and we
are looking back at Tuesday. That that whole MURRAI fill
out your senses form? Do you voting?
Speaker 3 (00:37):
What was it?
Speaker 4 (00:38):
Was that all way about?
Speaker 1 (00:39):
Again?
Speaker 2 (00:39):
Are they were stringing this out so long? We'll forget anyway,
We'll try and figure it out. Surely should we move
coum You not move to CUMU, but actually move Kumu
all together? At Halberg Awards and laptop dining that is
not dining with your laptop nearby, is dining with your
(01:00):
food on your lap, on the top of your lap.
But before any of that, the latest brain drain, it's
engineers scarpering.
Speaker 5 (01:09):
Apparently they accused the government of talking up infrastructure development
and yet in the last fifteen months since the formation
of the government, they have stalled, frozen, and dumped various
state funded building plans with the aim of deficit and
debt reduction. And we're seeing it. It's the cancelation of
education rebuilds, the shutdown of hospital builds and upgrades, the
(01:31):
slowdown on roading, and the changes in the Three Waters
space as well. I mean, you can say what you
want about co governors, but at the end of the day,
Three Waters was about building some more dams. It's all
meant that New Zealand engineers and New Zealand constructors, the
people who build the roads and the water networks in
the buildings have all had to look for work elsewhere
(01:52):
and that has seen people heading overseas or contracting to
work overseas, and it's in significant numbers, says Engineering New Zealand.
Engineering New Zealand says large infrastructure firms in Australia are
rapidly hiring large numbers of New Zealand engineers. New Zealand
seers other engineers have been lured to California to help
(02:12):
with the rebuild after last month's devastating wildfires. Engineering New
Zealand urges the government to free up funds for the
delivery and firm up the infrastructure pipeline, or, in the
immortal words of Mike Hosking, Engineering New Zealand is saying,
just do something.
Speaker 2 (02:32):
Yeah, I've got a nephew who I think he went
to Australia and now he's working in the UK. He's
an engineer. I think he just wanted to get away
from his parents to be honest, which I encourage. So
(02:57):
not a problem as far as I'm concerned. News talk
Z been right now the Murai and the dodgy data scandal.
Does anybody know what this is about?
Speaker 6 (03:09):
Really?
Speaker 2 (03:11):
Ryan Bridge seems.
Speaker 7 (03:12):
To our candidate now MP was the winning candidate, but
also the boss of the Marai that got some of
the data. John Tammaheady is the boss of the White
Parata Trust but also the Maori Party president. And because
we don't have answers to what happened after we let
go of the data, we don't know what we don't know,
(03:33):
and this is a big problem. It goes to the
heart of the integrity of our electoral system and this
election result, and the Electoral Commission now needs to answer
some pretty tough questions about that now. Brian wrote said
today that the White Parata Trust didn't meet with the
Public Service Commission over this report at all. They would
(03:53):
only do so in writing via lawyers. So there will
be more to come on this story. We can be
sure of that. And in the meantime, they've announced a
funding freeze. They're turning the money off Health New Zealand
and TAPERNICRCID have been told do not give any more
money to them at I to wipe it data or
to FINO Orders Commissioning Agency until they can prove that
(04:18):
they don't have conflicts of interests and that they can
properly handle private data.
Speaker 2 (04:23):
Yeah. My big question there is what is the peral
of conflict of interest?
Speaker 4 (04:27):
Is it conflicts of interest or is it conflict of interests?
You talk SI so easily distracted, you know, as soon
as I hear something like that, Okay, is that all right?
It usually is right, And I'm usually it's being silly.
Speaker 2 (04:43):
I know. It's hard to believe, isn't it. Hey, So
are we going to move the entire chune of whom
you are we? It's going to need a big truck
on the back of that.
Speaker 8 (04:52):
So things are not going to suddenly get better of anything.
It will only get worse. But what do you do
when you've border house there, you're raising your family there.
You you have been through a couple of floods already.
You're being told that the only possible solution is eventual relocation.
(05:18):
How do you manage to spend your days there knowing
that every time it rains you're going to be feeling sick,
knowing that long term you're going to have to leave
your land, your home, your business behind. Is it the
(05:38):
only possible solution as far as you can see, relocation,
especially if you've lived there for some time. I'd really
like to get your thoughts on this and for all
of those towns, because this is not the only town,
This is not the only settlement that is facing the
issue of dealing with weather events that have always happened.
(06:02):
There's a history of them happening, and they're only going
to get more frequent over time. Yes, the council shouldn't
have consented back in the day. They did, And where
we are now, people who have homes, who have businesses,
who have livelihoods on land that ultimately is going to
be covered in water.
Speaker 2 (06:23):
Are we all going to end up this in with
a big town, one on top of Mount Rubeho and
one on top of the.
Speaker 4 (06:31):
Mount Cook Iraqi? Iraqi, I can't remember what times? Which
is that me being racist? Specially racist? Probably sorry for
any offense, guys.
Speaker 2 (06:46):
I just couldn't be bothered looking it up. I wasn't
being racist, I was just being lazy.
Speaker 4 (06:52):
Now, Marcus, I think was trying to watch the whole
Burg Awards last night for some reason.
Speaker 2 (06:56):
Why would you do that? Why would you do that?
Speaker 3 (06:58):
Sportsman of there? That is Chris Wood for me, because
it's such a big sport. Is it's hard to compare
that with Finn Butcher. I don't know how many people
do canoe slalom, but it wouldn't be as many as
pay professional football, that would be my take. So Chris
would for me for that one Team of the year. Well,
I think the White fans get that. For cricket. I'm
(07:23):
not sure when they're a war if when they won
the World Cup was within the window. But there we go.
Speaker 7 (07:28):
That's that for me.
Speaker 3 (07:30):
Coach of the year. Don't really know any of them.
Speaker 2 (07:35):
Go.
Speaker 3 (07:35):
I'll go with a cycling I'll go with a cycle track.
I presume that's the father? Is it John Andrew? Is
it Alessa's father? I guess so emerging talent. I'm not
quite sure who to go there.
Speaker 6 (07:53):
Go?
Speaker 3 (07:53):
I reckon the guy should be that sixteen year old
that ran free fast in the mile, but he's not
there anyway, that will happen when that comes to I'll
keep you updated with that too.
Speaker 2 (08:01):
Oh live updates of the how boots as they happened?
Is this the most boring overnight thought go marketers have done?
Speaker 4 (08:11):
Like you said, some historic occasion.
Speaker 1 (08:15):
News talk z it bean.
Speaker 2 (08:16):
Okay, let's finish up with so we really see at
the news agenda to the day Yesterday on the mic,
class can breakfast by discussing whether it's oh shir to
eat your dinner on your lap in front of the TV.
Speaker 9 (08:32):
Now, this is something I'm very passionate, passionate about. Yeah,
and then it's eating dinner around the table. And I'm
not judging our prime minister at all. His kids have
flown the coop. It's just him and his lovely wife
sitting on the couch eating their dinner on their knees.
But I've got this personal bug beer with that. I
think food should be enough to entertain us. I think,
(08:54):
you know, you make some food and then you rush
around to find the show that you're going to watch
on TV while you eat. I think modern humans rover stimulate.
We need to just enjoy the food that is in
front of us, especially when you've got kids. I think
that eating around the table is one of the most
important things that you can do as a parent and
(09:14):
no phones, no TV, and look, your kids might not
love this, but you sit around and you attempt to
have a conversation with them, and you attempt to appreciate
the food that has been surprised for you, that you're
lucky enough to have.
Speaker 6 (09:26):
Just good old conversation like we used to do. I'd
go a step further, And whether I do this on
a regular basis, probably not, But I actually think yes,
absolutely important for families, but I think that's important for
couples as well. You wouldn't go to a nice restaurant
with your partner and then whip out your phone and
start watching Netflix. Why are you chimming down on a steak?
Speaker 7 (09:44):
Would you?
Speaker 9 (09:45):
How can you be truly thankful for what you're about
to eat while you're watching a television show? And I
think that dinner time is an opportunity for gratitude in
the fact that you live in such a situation that
you have the loved ones around you, and that you
have food to serve them. I think that's a very
very important thing and even in a relationship. And look,
(10:08):
I feel like we're dumping on the I feel like
we're dumping on the PM here.
Speaker 6 (10:14):
Why did it on Valentine's Day as well? Come on,
Prime minister? Is the love?
Speaker 2 (10:19):
I actually think the most important thing with couples is
to not eat opposite each other because one of you
is going to, at least one of you, worst case scenario,
both of you is going to feel judged on how
you're eating. You know, should you be putting your utensils
(10:40):
down between mouthfuls while you're sticking out your elbows so wide?
And then you always get that bit of that salad
leaf that's got the better stalk on it that you
thought it was going to go in your mouth in
one go, and then it didn't. And then the more
you try and stuff at it, and the more it does,
and then it just it turns into a message disaster.
And you don't want to be doing all that in
(11:00):
front of your powder the same, So great dining advice
from me. There has been news Talks It Beam. We'll
get with more etiquette rules and mastipulations to virus used.
Speaker 1 (11:18):
Talking Talking zid Bean. For more from News Talk si
B listen live on air or online, and keep our
shows with you wherever you go with our podcasts on
iHeartRadio
You're listening to a podcast from News Talk said B.
Follow this and our wide range of podcasts now on iHeartRadio,
Used Talk sib Talk.
Speaker 2 (00:22):
Hello, my beautiful meanings, and welcome to the Bean for Wednesday.
First of yesterday's news. I am Glen Hart, and we
are looking back at Tuesday. That that whole MURRAI fill
out your senses form? Do you voting?
Speaker 3 (00:37):
What was it?
Speaker 4 (00:38):
Was that all way about?
Speaker 1 (00:39):
Again?
Speaker 2 (00:39):
Are they were stringing this out so long? We'll forget anyway,
We'll try and figure it out. Surely should we move
coum You not move to CUMU, but actually move Kumu
all together? At Halberg Awards and laptop dining that is
not dining with your laptop nearby, is dining with your
(01:00):
food on your lap, on the top of your lap.
But before any of that, the latest brain drain, it's
engineers scarpering.
Speaker 5 (01:09):
Apparently they accused the government of talking up infrastructure development
and yet in the last fifteen months since the formation
of the government, they have stalled, frozen, and dumped various
state funded building plans with the aim of deficit and
debt reduction. And we're seeing it. It's the cancelation of
education rebuilds, the shutdown of hospital builds and upgrades, the
(01:31):
slowdown on roading, and the changes in the Three Waters
space as well. I mean, you can say what you
want about co governors, but at the end of the day,
Three Waters was about building some more dams. It's all
meant that New Zealand engineers and New Zealand constructors, the
people who build the roads and the water networks in
the buildings have all had to look for work elsewhere
(01:52):
and that has seen people heading overseas or contracting to
work overseas, and it's in significant numbers, says Engineering New Zealand.
Engineering New Zealand says large infrastructure firms in Australia are
rapidly hiring large numbers of New Zealand engineers. New Zealand
seers other engineers have been lured to California to help
(02:12):
with the rebuild after last month's devastating wildfires. Engineering New
Zealand urges the government to free up funds for the
delivery and firm up the infrastructure pipeline, or, in the
immortal words of Mike Hosking, Engineering New Zealand is saying,
just do something.
Speaker 2 (02:32):
Yeah, I've got a nephew who I think he went
to Australia and now he's working in the UK. He's
an engineer. I think he just wanted to get away
from his parents to be honest, which I encourage. So
(02:57):
not a problem as far as I'm concerned. News talk
Z been right now the Murai and the dodgy data scandal.
Does anybody know what this is about?
Speaker 6 (03:09):
Really?
Speaker 2 (03:11):
Ryan Bridge seems.
Speaker 7 (03:12):
To our candidate now MP was the winning candidate, but
also the boss of the Marai that got some of
the data. John Tammaheady is the boss of the White
Parata Trust but also the Maori Party president. And because
we don't have answers to what happened after we let
go of the data, we don't know what we don't know,
(03:33):
and this is a big problem. It goes to the
heart of the integrity of our electoral system and this
election result, and the Electoral Commission now needs to answer
some pretty tough questions about that now. Brian wrote said
today that the White Parata Trust didn't meet with the
Public Service Commission over this report at all. They would
(03:53):
only do so in writing via lawyers. So there will
be more to come on this story. We can be
sure of that. And in the meantime, they've announced a
funding freeze. They're turning the money off Health New Zealand
and TAPERNICRCID have been told do not give any more
money to them at I to wipe it data or
to FINO Orders Commissioning Agency until they can prove that
(04:18):
they don't have conflicts of interests and that they can
properly handle private data.
Speaker 2 (04:23):
Yeah. My big question there is what is the peral
of conflict of interest?
Speaker 4 (04:27):
Is it conflicts of interest or is it conflict of interests?
You talk SI so easily distracted, you know, as soon
as I hear something like that, Okay, is that all right?
It usually is right, And I'm usually it's being silly.
Speaker 2 (04:43):
I know. It's hard to believe, isn't it. Hey, So
are we going to move the entire chune of whom
you are we? It's going to need a big truck
on the back of that.
Speaker 8 (04:52):
So things are not going to suddenly get better of anything.
It will only get worse. But what do you do
when you've border house there, you're raising your family there.
You you have been through a couple of floods already.
You're being told that the only possible solution is eventual relocation.
(05:18):
How do you manage to spend your days there knowing
that every time it rains you're going to be feeling sick,
knowing that long term you're going to have to leave
your land, your home, your business behind. Is it the
(05:38):
only possible solution as far as you can see, relocation,
especially if you've lived there for some time. I'd really
like to get your thoughts on this and for all
of those towns, because this is not the only town,
This is not the only settlement that is facing the
issue of dealing with weather events that have always happened.
(06:02):
There's a history of them happening, and they're only going
to get more frequent over time. Yes, the council shouldn't
have consented back in the day. They did, And where
we are now, people who have homes, who have businesses,
who have livelihoods on land that ultimately is going to
be covered in water.
Speaker 2 (06:23):
Are we all going to end up this in with
a big town, one on top of Mount Rubeho and
one on top of the.
Speaker 4 (06:31):
Mount Cook Iraqi? Iraqi, I can't remember what times? Which
is that me being racist? Specially racist? Probably sorry for
any offense, guys.
Speaker 2 (06:46):
I just couldn't be bothered looking it up. I wasn't
being racist, I was just being lazy.
Speaker 4 (06:52):
Now, Marcus, I think was trying to watch the whole
Burg Awards last night for some reason.
Speaker 2 (06:56):
Why would you do that? Why would you do that?
Speaker 3 (06:58):
Sportsman of there? That is Chris Wood for me, because
it's such a big sport. Is it's hard to compare
that with Finn Butcher. I don't know how many people
do canoe slalom, but it wouldn't be as many as
pay professional football, that would be my take. So Chris
would for me for that one Team of the year. Well,
I think the White fans get that. For cricket. I'm
(07:23):
not sure when they're a war if when they won
the World Cup was within the window. But there we go.
Speaker 7 (07:28):
That's that for me.
Speaker 3 (07:30):
Coach of the year. Don't really know any of them.
Speaker 2 (07:35):
Go.
Speaker 3 (07:35):
I'll go with a cycling I'll go with a cycle track.
I presume that's the father? Is it John Andrew? Is
it Alessa's father? I guess so emerging talent. I'm not
quite sure who to go there.
Speaker 6 (07:53):
Go?
Speaker 3 (07:53):
I reckon the guy should be that sixteen year old
that ran free fast in the mile, but he's not
there anyway, that will happen when that comes to I'll
keep you updated with that too.
Speaker 2 (08:01):
Oh live updates of the how boots as they happened?
Is this the most boring overnight thought go marketers have done?
Speaker 4 (08:11):
Like you said, some historic occasion.
Speaker 1 (08:15):
News talk z it bean.
Speaker 2 (08:16):
Okay, let's finish up with so we really see at
the news agenda to the day Yesterday on the mic,
class can breakfast by discussing whether it's oh shir to
eat your dinner on your lap in front of the TV.
Speaker 9 (08:32):
Now, this is something I'm very passionate, passionate about. Yeah,
and then it's eating dinner around the table. And I'm
not judging our prime minister at all. His kids have
flown the coop. It's just him and his lovely wife
sitting on the couch eating their dinner on their knees.
But I've got this personal bug beer with that. I
think food should be enough to entertain us. I think,
(08:54):
you know, you make some food and then you rush
around to find the show that you're going to watch
on TV while you eat. I think modern humans rover stimulate.
We need to just enjoy the food that is in
front of us, especially when you've got kids. I think
that eating around the table is one of the most
important things that you can do as a parent and
(09:14):
no phones, no TV, and look, your kids might not
love this, but you sit around and you attempt to
have a conversation with them, and you attempt to appreciate
the food that has been surprised for you, that you're
lucky enough to have.
Speaker 6 (09:26):
Just good old conversation like we used to do. I'd
go a step further, And whether I do this on
a regular basis, probably not, But I actually think yes,
absolutely important for families, but I think that's important for
couples as well. You wouldn't go to a nice restaurant
with your partner and then whip out your phone and
start watching Netflix. Why are you chimming down on a steak?
Speaker 7 (09:44):
Would you?
Speaker 9 (09:45):
How can you be truly thankful for what you're about
to eat while you're watching a television show? And I
think that dinner time is an opportunity for gratitude in
the fact that you live in such a situation that
you have the loved ones around you, and that you
have food to serve them. I think that's a very
very important thing and even in a relationship. And look,
(10:08):
I feel like we're dumping on the I feel like
we're dumping on the PM here.
Speaker 6 (10:14):
Why did it on Valentine's Day as well? Come on,
Prime minister? Is the love?
Speaker 2 (10:19):
I actually think the most important thing with couples is
to not eat opposite each other because one of you
is going to, at least one of you, worst case scenario,
both of you is going to feel judged on how
you're eating. You know, should you be putting your utensils
(10:40):
down between mouthfuls while you're sticking out your elbows so wide?
And then you always get that bit of that salad
leaf that's got the better stalk on it that you
thought it was going to go in your mouth in
one go, and then it didn't. And then the more
you try and stuff at it, and the more it does,
and then it just it turns into a message disaster.
And you don't want to be doing all that in
(11:00):
front of your powder the same, So great dining advice
from me. There has been news Talks It Beam. We'll
get with more etiquette rules and mastipulations to virus used.
Speaker 1 (11:18):
Talking Talking zid Bean. For more from News Talk si
B listen live on air or online, and keep our
shows with you wherever you go with our podcasts on
iHeartRadio
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