August 3, 2025 • 12 mins
FIRST WITH YESTERDAY'S NEWS (highlights from the weekend on Newstalk ZB) More Stout, Please/What Are We Called Exactly?/Zimbabwe, Not a Problem/Conservation Is Dead/Cliff, Jason and Great Telly
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Speaker 1 (00:09):
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Speaker 2 (00:20):
Used Talk Said Talk.
Speaker 3 (00:24):
Hello, my beautiful beanies, and welcome to the Bean the
Weekend edition, first of yesterday's news. I am Bean Hart
and we are looking back at Sunday and Saturday the
forul weekend. To me, what is the name of our country?
Don't think of that? Out shortly the black Caps ned
(00:44):
to be going well conservation I think we were given
up on that. And Cliff Curtis when Stactam at the
end of the podcast discuss the latest and latest Jason
Melamia Well basically keeps the famous report Well, the Chief
(01:05):
of War, I think it's called the Chief of War
before any of that. Then no argument over what should
be at the top of the podcast the Bear Awards happen.
Speaker 4 (01:17):
Where does New Zealand rank in terms of the quality
of beer?
Speaker 5 (01:21):
I have judged a number of competitions and I'd have
to say New Zealand stands up against any of the
competitions or the beer stand up against any of the
competitions that I've just before, and from a quality standard,
they're definitely on part without a doubt.
Speaker 4 (01:39):
What did you see from entries at these awards? How
are brewers pushing the boundaries?
Speaker 5 (01:45):
Oh? I think I think New Zealand is a spot
for choice when it comes to ingredients, fruits, herbs. We
saw quite a number of different things presented in with
quite different ingredients, some of them I had never heard of,
some local native plants and so on. But I think
(02:06):
the testament to the brewers here in New Zealand is
that the way in which they integrate a lot of
the different ingredients based on traditional styles, with absolute for
nests and integrity throughout the whole brew. It really is
a testament to how well balanced some of these bees are,
(02:27):
and they execute them quite well to get the aurona
upfront and then follow through with the palette so that
what you're reading or expecting from the beer is what
you're actually going to get. So it was a really
great expression of creativity and innovation. I have to say, can.
Speaker 3 (02:44):
We just get more stouts?
Speaker 6 (02:46):
It's all right?
Speaker 3 (02:48):
Wasn't this obscision with hazes? And there's only so much
hazy you can drink? Whereas you can sit on stout
all night long, can't you, especially at this time of year?
And also, I mean they do make them, but come on, supermarkets,
stop them.
Speaker 1 (03:06):
News talk zibet.
Speaker 6 (03:08):
Carried away on the bear there.
Speaker 3 (03:10):
Let's move on to far less important matters like I
don't know the name of the country.
Speaker 4 (03:16):
There is a very simple way to see through the
specific bill. Just consider the timing. If the name of
New Zealand is seriously so threatened that we need to
enshrine it in law, why did New Zealand first introduce
this bill twelve months ago? Why not three years ago?
(03:37):
Why not negotiate it in the coalition agreement when they
formed a government. You see, my instinct with this kind
of move is always the same. Don't ask what does
this achieve or why is this an issue? Instead ask
what are they trying to distract us from. Is it
the MEH jobs report, the lame economic growth figures, the
(03:57):
gang numbers ticking over ten thousand for the first time
ever this week. Or could it possibly be the fact
that a few hours before the New Zealand Name of
State Member's Bill was announced, Australia and the UK achieved
comparatively lower trade tariffs with the US, while our government's
top trade and diplomatic officials were apparently surprised to learn
(04:19):
that our tariff had been increased. Actually, you know, m
come to think of it, maybe we should call ourselves
alter or. Who knows. It might have confused Donald Trump
just long enough to keep us at ten percent.
Speaker 3 (04:35):
Well, given that he was going to tariff an island
of penguins at one point, that calling us a different name.
Speaker 2 (04:49):
Would have made much difference us talk seven.
Speaker 3 (04:52):
Right, the New Zealand cricket team, they know what they're called,
the black Caps and they've just absolutely wasted Zimbabwe in
a Test match and it was all off the back
of Matt Henry, here's the bowling coach.
Speaker 7 (05:06):
What were your overall levels of SATIS faction as a
coaching group after that very convincing win in the first Test?
Speaker 2 (05:13):
Are you very happy? I thought we played pretty much
for eighty ninety percent of the game exactly the way
we wanted to. Would have been nice. We've got some
more first innings run from the position we were in,
but not to be But I thought we bolt exceptionally well.
We asked enough questions of the zimbabwe and batter is
to make it hard for them, and I think, you know,
(05:34):
to get twenty wickets for only three hundred and ten
runs across those three days. Shows the quality of our
bowling and catching as well, and we're able to win comfortably,
So the coaches were very happy for sure.
Speaker 7 (05:44):
How serious are the injuries to Nathan Smith and Willow Rourke.
We didn't see Nathan Smith bowl at all in the
second innings. Will I Roorke did for a bit but
then went off injured. How serious are those injuries?
Speaker 2 (05:56):
Yeah, unfortunate. Nathan Smith isn't too good. I would say
he's doubtful for that Second Test. But Willow Rourke we've
still got our fingers crossed obviously with a guy that
will add their height to start with, you know, that's
our long back along spine to handle. But he's so
important to us, not only in the short term but
the long term as well. We just need to be
(06:17):
careful and make sure we do the right thing for
will and sort of not put the Second Test at
the forefront of minds and think we've got a huge
summer at home starting well under two months away, so
we've got to make sure we look after him because
he is vital to our prospects going forward.
Speaker 3 (06:34):
Yeah, that's interesting, isn't it It? Sounds like they don't
care about this next test at all. Sure, if that's
the right way to go about things, mind you, I
he took three days to win that first one. How
challenging could it be?
Speaker 2 (06:53):
Right?
Speaker 3 (06:53):
So they're overhauling the conservation rules and regulations basically, I think,
is this kick ass fast tracking scrapping binnacles off the
car and the ditch? Government? Are they fast checking the
extension of species of lads and animals as well?
Speaker 5 (07:14):
Are they?
Speaker 7 (07:15):
What's the concern for you about this?
Speaker 2 (07:18):
So?
Speaker 8 (07:19):
I think the concessions regime we've had in New Zealand
in terms of you know, running business operations on public
conservation land has absolutely needed, you know needed improvement and
you know, so I have no issue with improvements in
a way that support, you know, the ongoing protection of
these places that we all love and love to go
(07:41):
out and play in. Same for charging international visitors to
some of those real pressure point sites. You know, wasn't
that long ago that I was working for the Department
of Conservation. I was responsible for the likes of Arda
Hunantcook National Park and in the height of summer it
was pretty challenging. So that's not an issue I think
the bit that I just want New Zealander is to
(08:01):
be aware of is this little bit didn't get a
lot of press this weekend. The government are very clear
that they are now also looking at potentially disposing of
or selling public conservation land if they so deemed fit
and well, I suppose it's a bit bizarre to me
and most New Zealanders. I know, as hang on a minute,
(08:24):
nobody campaigned on that, nobody voted for that. Where did
that come from? So, you know, in terms of the
way that we kind of identify ourselves as Kiwi's, I
would say that's probably a bridge too far for most people.
Speaker 6 (08:38):
Yeah, it's amazing, isn't it. We've been scrabbling and scratching
and gloring our way up to some kind of undoing
of the environmental damage that we've been doing since the
Industrial revolution.
Speaker 3 (08:54):
It's a big job, and really all around the world
we've just sort of wiped that out with a stroke
of a pen. More or lescient we.
Speaker 1 (09:03):
News talk has it been right?
Speaker 3 (09:09):
Escually pops up everywhere, doesn't me. He's been hanging around
with the with the Chief of War.
Speaker 6 (09:16):
Maybe he is the Chief of War.
Speaker 3 (09:18):
I don't actually know who the chief. I'm a chiming.
Jason Lamar is the chief of war anyway, Cliff Gourds,
isn't it? It's a TV program.
Speaker 4 (09:26):
It's remarkable really because it's a Polynesian story told from
an indigenous perspective for a global audience. So, given your career,
given all the roles you've had over the years, just
how significant is that?
Speaker 9 (09:39):
It's very significant? I mean, it's a it's a you know,
as you know, you've probably followed as a as a
storyteller in the screen industry for the last three decades
at least, you know where we've managed to tell a
variation of stories from our small corner of the world.
But you know, this series, when when led by the
(10:03):
likes of Jason more Moore and his co creator Thomas Parker,
they can bring scale to the narrative, like they can
really recreate the scale and the majesty and the regal
nature of our ancestry. And they've done an amazing job.
I'm very, very proud and humbled to be a part
of it. To be honest, that's very big for us.
(10:24):
It's a big deal for us.
Speaker 4 (10:25):
It is a big deal, and it's such a powerful story.
But I think it's a great example of how sharing
you know, Polynesian stories isn't just the right thing to do, like,
it's seriously entertaining as well, right and and and it
feels like you've really struck that balance.
Speaker 9 (10:43):
Yeah exactly, Well, I mean I don't.
Speaker 7 (10:46):
I don't.
Speaker 9 (10:47):
I don't think as a mildly storyteller. I do it
because it's the right thing to do as I do
it because I'm passionate about it and I want to
do it, and if I'm compelled to tell these stories
because for my my self reasons, but culturally we live
in the context of ancestors and descendants. You know, my
(11:08):
self ass just relatively minor compared to being of service
to our EWI to our people. Now we want we
want stories like this that can inspire our future generations,
not because we should, but because it's something that just
as in our as in our life blood as human
beings to want to do.
Speaker 2 (11:28):
So.
Speaker 3 (11:28):
Yeah, I'm likely to watch this because I just really
enjoyed c which was another Apple TV Plus series starring
Jason Mamma. He was blind in that crazy check it
out here. A lot of people talking about it. Amazing
(11:52):
for the TV actually that's my recommendation anyway. From the
weekending edition of new talks It Bean, I'll be back
with more viewing and other entertainment recommendations to tomorrow or
let see there.
Speaker 6 (12:05):
Used Bean.
Speaker 1 (12:10):
For more from News Talk sed B, listen live on
air or online, and keep our shows with you wherever
you go with our podcasts on iHeartRadio.
You're listening to a podcast from News Talk Said Bee.
Follow this and our wide range of podcasts now on iHeartRadio.
Speaker 2 (00:20):
Used Talk Said Talk.
Speaker 3 (00:24):
Hello, my beautiful beanies, and welcome to the Bean the
Weekend edition, first of yesterday's news. I am Bean Hart
and we are looking back at Sunday and Saturday the
forul weekend. To me, what is the name of our country?
Don't think of that? Out shortly the black Caps ned
(00:44):
to be going well conservation I think we were given
up on that. And Cliff Curtis when Stactam at the
end of the podcast discuss the latest and latest Jason
Melamia Well basically keeps the famous report Well, the Chief
(01:05):
of War, I think it's called the Chief of War
before any of that. Then no argument over what should
be at the top of the podcast the Bear Awards happen.
Speaker 4 (01:17):
Where does New Zealand rank in terms of the quality
of beer?
Speaker 5 (01:21):
I have judged a number of competitions and I'd have
to say New Zealand stands up against any of the
competitions or the beer stand up against any of the
competitions that I've just before, and from a quality standard,
they're definitely on part without a doubt.
Speaker 4 (01:39):
What did you see from entries at these awards? How
are brewers pushing the boundaries?
Speaker 5 (01:45):
Oh? I think I think New Zealand is a spot
for choice when it comes to ingredients, fruits, herbs. We
saw quite a number of different things presented in with
quite different ingredients, some of them I had never heard of,
some local native plants and so on. But I think
(02:06):
the testament to the brewers here in New Zealand is
that the way in which they integrate a lot of
the different ingredients based on traditional styles, with absolute for
nests and integrity throughout the whole brew. It really is
a testament to how well balanced some of these bees are,
(02:27):
and they execute them quite well to get the aurona
upfront and then follow through with the palette so that
what you're reading or expecting from the beer is what
you're actually going to get. So it was a really
great expression of creativity and innovation. I have to say, can.
Speaker 3 (02:44):
We just get more stouts?
Speaker 6 (02:46):
It's all right?
Speaker 3 (02:48):
Wasn't this obscision with hazes? And there's only so much
hazy you can drink? Whereas you can sit on stout
all night long, can't you, especially at this time of year?
And also, I mean they do make them, but come on, supermarkets,
stop them.
Speaker 1 (03:06):
News talk zibet.
Speaker 6 (03:08):
Carried away on the bear there.
Speaker 3 (03:10):
Let's move on to far less important matters like I
don't know the name of the country.
Speaker 4 (03:16):
There is a very simple way to see through the
specific bill. Just consider the timing. If the name of
New Zealand is seriously so threatened that we need to
enshrine it in law, why did New Zealand first introduce
this bill twelve months ago? Why not three years ago?
(03:37):
Why not negotiate it in the coalition agreement when they
formed a government. You see, my instinct with this kind
of move is always the same. Don't ask what does
this achieve or why is this an issue? Instead ask
what are they trying to distract us from. Is it
the MEH jobs report, the lame economic growth figures, the
(03:57):
gang numbers ticking over ten thousand for the first time
ever this week. Or could it possibly be the fact
that a few hours before the New Zealand Name of
State Member's Bill was announced, Australia and the UK achieved
comparatively lower trade tariffs with the US, while our government's
top trade and diplomatic officials were apparently surprised to learn
(04:19):
that our tariff had been increased. Actually, you know, m
come to think of it, maybe we should call ourselves
alter or. Who knows. It might have confused Donald Trump
just long enough to keep us at ten percent.
Speaker 3 (04:35):
Well, given that he was going to tariff an island
of penguins at one point, that calling us a different name.
Speaker 2 (04:49):
Would have made much difference us talk seven.
Speaker 3 (04:52):
Right, the New Zealand cricket team, they know what they're called,
the black Caps and they've just absolutely wasted Zimbabwe in
a Test match and it was all off the back
of Matt Henry, here's the bowling coach.
Speaker 7 (05:06):
What were your overall levels of SATIS faction as a
coaching group after that very convincing win in the first Test?
Speaker 2 (05:13):
Are you very happy? I thought we played pretty much
for eighty ninety percent of the game exactly the way
we wanted to. Would have been nice. We've got some
more first innings run from the position we were in,
but not to be But I thought we bolt exceptionally well.
We asked enough questions of the zimbabwe and batter is
to make it hard for them, and I think, you know,
(05:34):
to get twenty wickets for only three hundred and ten
runs across those three days. Shows the quality of our
bowling and catching as well, and we're able to win comfortably,
So the coaches were very happy for sure.
Speaker 7 (05:44):
How serious are the injuries to Nathan Smith and Willow Rourke.
We didn't see Nathan Smith bowl at all in the
second innings. Will I Roorke did for a bit but
then went off injured. How serious are those injuries?
Speaker 2 (05:56):
Yeah, unfortunate. Nathan Smith isn't too good. I would say
he's doubtful for that Second Test. But Willow Rourke we've
still got our fingers crossed obviously with a guy that
will add their height to start with, you know, that's
our long back along spine to handle. But he's so
important to us, not only in the short term but
the long term as well. We just need to be
(06:17):
careful and make sure we do the right thing for
will and sort of not put the Second Test at
the forefront of minds and think we've got a huge
summer at home starting well under two months away, so
we've got to make sure we look after him because
he is vital to our prospects going forward.
Speaker 3 (06:34):
Yeah, that's interesting, isn't it It? Sounds like they don't
care about this next test at all. Sure, if that's
the right way to go about things, mind you, I
he took three days to win that first one. How
challenging could it be?
Speaker 2 (06:53):
Right?
Speaker 3 (06:53):
So they're overhauling the conservation rules and regulations basically, I think,
is this kick ass fast tracking scrapping binnacles off the
car and the ditch? Government? Are they fast checking the
extension of species of lads and animals as well?
Speaker 5 (07:14):
Are they?
Speaker 7 (07:15):
What's the concern for you about this?
Speaker 2 (07:18):
So?
Speaker 8 (07:19):
I think the concessions regime we've had in New Zealand
in terms of you know, running business operations on public
conservation land has absolutely needed, you know needed improvement and
you know, so I have no issue with improvements in
a way that support, you know, the ongoing protection of
these places that we all love and love to go
(07:41):
out and play in. Same for charging international visitors to
some of those real pressure point sites. You know, wasn't
that long ago that I was working for the Department
of Conservation. I was responsible for the likes of Arda
Hunantcook National Park and in the height of summer it
was pretty challenging. So that's not an issue I think
the bit that I just want New Zealander is to
(08:01):
be aware of is this little bit didn't get a
lot of press this weekend. The government are very clear
that they are now also looking at potentially disposing of
or selling public conservation land if they so deemed fit
and well, I suppose it's a bit bizarre to me
and most New Zealanders. I know, as hang on a minute,
(08:24):
nobody campaigned on that, nobody voted for that. Where did
that come from? So, you know, in terms of the
way that we kind of identify ourselves as Kiwi's, I
would say that's probably a bridge too far for most people.
Speaker 6 (08:38):
Yeah, it's amazing, isn't it. We've been scrabbling and scratching
and gloring our way up to some kind of undoing
of the environmental damage that we've been doing since the
Industrial revolution.
Speaker 3 (08:54):
It's a big job, and really all around the world
we've just sort of wiped that out with a stroke
of a pen. More or lescient we.
Speaker 1 (09:03):
News talk has it been right?
Speaker 3 (09:09):
Escually pops up everywhere, doesn't me. He's been hanging around
with the with the Chief of War.
Speaker 6 (09:16):
Maybe he is the Chief of War.
Speaker 3 (09:18):
I don't actually know who the chief. I'm a chiming.
Jason Lamar is the chief of war anyway, Cliff Gourds,
isn't it? It's a TV program.
Speaker 4 (09:26):
It's remarkable really because it's a Polynesian story told from
an indigenous perspective for a global audience. So, given your career,
given all the roles you've had over the years, just
how significant is that?
Speaker 9 (09:39):
It's very significant? I mean, it's a it's a you know,
as you know, you've probably followed as a as a
storyteller in the screen industry for the last three decades
at least, you know where we've managed to tell a
variation of stories from our small corner of the world.
But you know, this series, when when led by the
(10:03):
likes of Jason more Moore and his co creator Thomas Parker,
they can bring scale to the narrative, like they can
really recreate the scale and the majesty and the regal
nature of our ancestry. And they've done an amazing job.
I'm very, very proud and humbled to be a part
of it. To be honest, that's very big for us.
(10:24):
It's a big deal for us.
Speaker 4 (10:25):
It is a big deal, and it's such a powerful story.
But I think it's a great example of how sharing
you know, Polynesian stories isn't just the right thing to do, like,
it's seriously entertaining as well, right and and and it
feels like you've really struck that balance.
Speaker 9 (10:43):
Yeah exactly, Well, I mean I don't.
Speaker 7 (10:46):
I don't.
Speaker 9 (10:47):
I don't think as a mildly storyteller. I do it
because it's the right thing to do as I do
it because I'm passionate about it and I want to
do it, and if I'm compelled to tell these stories
because for my my self reasons, but culturally we live
in the context of ancestors and descendants. You know, my
(11:08):
self ass just relatively minor compared to being of service
to our EWI to our people. Now we want we
want stories like this that can inspire our future generations,
not because we should, but because it's something that just
as in our as in our life blood as human
beings to want to do.
Speaker 2 (11:28):
So.
Speaker 3 (11:28):
Yeah, I'm likely to watch this because I just really
enjoyed c which was another Apple TV Plus series starring
Jason Mamma. He was blind in that crazy check it
out here. A lot of people talking about it. Amazing
(11:52):
for the TV actually that's my recommendation anyway. From the
weekending edition of new talks It Bean, I'll be back
with more viewing and other entertainment recommendations to tomorrow or
let see there.
Speaker 6 (12:05):
Used Bean.
Speaker 1 (12:10):
For more from News Talk sed B, listen live on
air or online, and keep our shows with you wherever
you go with our podcasts on iHeartRadio.
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