April 29, 2025 • 11 mins
FIRST WITH YESTERDAY'S NEWS (highlights from Tuesday on Newstalk ZB) Take a Look at Yourself, Wellington/Flying Is Expensive. Deal With It/Planning Your Own Send-Off/What Are the Washing Instructions?
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Speaker 1 (00:09):
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Speaker 2 (00:24):
Hello, my beautiful beanies, and welcome to the bean for Wednesday.
First with yesterday's news, I am Glen Hart, and we
are looking back at Tuesday.
Speaker 3 (00:35):
I fares.
Speaker 2 (00:37):
They are expensive, and it's not exactly clear why funerals
also expenses. We'll hear from somebody who's planning their own.
Speaker 3 (00:49):
And can you.
Speaker 2 (00:51):
Wash a swan dry? So I think that's been on
top of all the way minds, isn't it? Find out
at the end of the podcast. But first up Tory
Funo skipping out of the Miryorkey race and into the
Mighty Ward Race.
Speaker 3 (01:08):
What do we think about this?
Speaker 4 (01:09):
According to her, her reason for giving up the mayoral
race is that she wants to give Andrew Little a
clear runway to win. I mean, come on, doesn't need
you to step aside, lady. She was gonna lose. That's
probably why she quit because Andrew Little, whether you like
as politics or not, is a serious and credible and
smart person and Torri Fano is none of the above. Now, also,
(01:29):
please do not start with this nonsense. Like some commentators
I've noticed in politicians today have done saying that Torri
Fano is quitting because it got too personal and people
have been illogically hateful towards her. Tory was the one
who made it personal. She made this whole thing about
her person and her character. She made on numerous occasions,
she made this about her being a young wahiina mari.
Speaker 5 (01:53):
I mean.
Speaker 4 (01:53):
She was the one who said out loud virtually every
single thing that popped into her head. She blamed her
bad behavior on her ADHD. She blamed her bad behavior
on her alcoholism. She told Paul Keys about needing to
sell her car to pay her mortgage. She told us
about her personal problems as an excuse for being bad
at her job. She told us and reminded us that
(02:14):
she was young and was mauri and was a woman
as an excuse for us being mean to her. Right,
she is the one who did this. The truth is
that being a leader is about what you achieve, absolutely,
but it is also about your character. And frankly, on
both those things, do you think she did well? No,
Tory Farno has been a disappointment, and that is no
one else's fault.
Speaker 2 (02:34):
But Tori's well, I mean she didn't vote herself in.
Let's be completely honest about it. I mean, I'm sure
she voted for herself, but a lot of other people
obviously there's tho so I think.
Speaker 3 (02:47):
They can share a little bit of the blame. I'm
looking at you, Wellington News talk Ze been right. The
cost of air travel it's not going down, is it.
Speaker 5 (02:57):
Here's the thing. If you want to book the main
trunk line, it is relatively inexpensive to do so, providing
you're not booking last minute. There's jets start keeping anyw Zealand. Honest,
that's competition. But if you're flying Ketty Ketty to Dunedin tomorrow.
Speaker 3 (03:11):
Guess what it'll cost you?
Speaker 5 (03:13):
A billion dollars?
Speaker 3 (03:14):
Why?
Speaker 5 (03:14):
Because they're basically got you over a barrel, haven't they?
You need to fly? It's short notice. Business customers normally
booked these flights. Eight thousand people live in Ketty Ketty,
one hundred and thirty thousand in Dunedin. Tourism is seasonal,
these routes are often empty. Air New Zealand has major
aircraft engine issues. The fact is running a profitable airline
(03:38):
in a sparsely populated country is bloody difficult and we
want them to be profitable otherwise we have nowhere line
and then we're a backwater banana republic and the regional
players they're not doing too well either. Air Chathams the
other week, remember this threatening to pull out of Fakatana
unless the council paid for a new cessna. Everyone compares
(04:01):
us to the Ossies. But have a look at outback Queensland.
You pay thousands just to get to Brisbane. Show me
a headline about flights being cheaper from Dunedin to Bali
than Dunedin to Auckland, and I'll show you one about
Mount Isa to Brisbane and Brisbane to Canada. Population matters.
(04:22):
And guess what, We're a blip on the radar. And
as for that promise from a politician that they'll swoop
in and save the day, about as reliable as the
plane schedule itself.
Speaker 2 (04:34):
What a little bit of flying in the last couple
of weeks family trip to Australia. So it wasn't the
regional travel as Ryan was discussing there. But once again
I was struck by why is it so difficult to
get on and off a plane and why is there
so much pilava about it, and why isn't it the
(04:55):
same as riding a bus or a train. It just
it's such a massive step, isn't it. As I stood
there queuing to get on a plane. This is after
you know they'd taken you're boarding parts of the gate
and you're on the air bridge and you're still queuing
to get on the plane. It seems so much harder
to get on and off a plane and go somewhere
(05:16):
than it is to get on and.
Speaker 3 (05:17):
Off the bus. And I don't I'm not quite.
Speaker 1 (05:19):
Sure why use talk seven.
Speaker 3 (05:21):
I'm sure that was top of Therea's line as well,
wasn't it. I'm sure it was.
Speaker 6 (05:27):
It is what it is. It's expensive to run an airline,
really expensive now in the wake of COVID, and it's
all been outlined as to why it's so expensive. Flying
is expensive. We know that we balk at paying the
prices if we can. They will allow some subsidies if
(05:52):
you're going for a funeral, if there's humanitarian reasons for
getting somewhere quickly. In New Zealand can allow for cheaper airfares,
But ultimately do we want the government, that is the
taxpayer subsidizing tian in the aviation industry. I wouldn't have
thought that was a good use of taxpayer money. Why
(06:14):
on earth should other taxpayers who don't fly subsidize those
who want to flit off to Hawk's Bay or Queen's
Town for a jolly. I just don't see why the
government should be interfering with the business of flying planes.
Speaker 3 (06:33):
Well, because governments love interfearing with stuff. I mean they're
interfering like if you if you want to drive from
region to region, they're interfering with that.
Speaker 2 (06:40):
Don't they just charging in working The evs' going to
make that easier, potentially cheaper. Well's that got to do
anything with anything?
Speaker 7 (06:54):
Then?
Speaker 3 (06:54):
You know a good point. I don't know use right now.
Funerals they are I don't know about air travel, but
funerals are expenses, so they have to be.
Speaker 8 (07:07):
He's a blog, he's planning his own I mean, imagine
it's hard for you to talk about with them, but
very hard for the people that love you to discuss
it with you.
Speaker 7 (07:16):
Yeah, yeah, I kind of. I've got a bit of
a weird seas of humor, so I can't and stuff
about it. But you know, it's we We actually found
these books online, my wife did, and they're called When
I Die, and it's I would encourage most people to
actually have a think about it and you just actually
(07:38):
go through this. It's not your will, but it's things
that you want to happen when you die. Do you
want to be cremated?
Speaker 6 (07:45):
You know?
Speaker 7 (07:46):
Do you want to lead your favorite fishing rod to
your best mate or do you think he'll just break
it because he's a usefuls fisherman And all my mates
will be listening to this anyway, So you know, it's
lots of things like that, and just who you think
should be, you know, who you would like to be contacted.
There's a few pages of different things, but you know,
pulling out a book like that, actually it's away some
(08:10):
of the fear of dying.
Speaker 8 (08:11):
I think, yeah, well, yeah, it's hard for hard to
comprehend if you're not in the position that you're in.
But that that seems to make sense to me. And
from your perspective when you say about the cost of
the funeral, when you say you don't want it to
cost a lot, is that because you'd rather money be
spent on the people that are that your loved ones?
Speaker 2 (08:34):
Yeah, yeah, I've always said that I'd like to be
set a drift on a burning funeral raft to the
Viking style. Apparently that's not legal. I don't know how
expensive that would be.
Speaker 3 (08:53):
It would be great to.
Speaker 2 (08:56):
Me.
Speaker 3 (08:56):
I'm such a contrary and I would just love to.
Speaker 2 (09:01):
Leave final wishes that people sing at the at my
funeral who can't sing, who attned it.
Speaker 3 (09:09):
That'd be funny for.
Speaker 2 (09:14):
The eulogies to be delivered by people who are afraid
of publics beaten.
Speaker 3 (09:18):
Just really mess with.
Speaker 1 (09:19):
It, you know, news talk, has it been right?
Speaker 2 (09:24):
Let's finish up with a Kiwi icon the humble swan dry?
And what are the washing instructions exactly?
Speaker 9 (09:32):
And this is probably a question I've never heard asked
on the radio, and it's a question I think goes
to the very core of New Zealand history. And it's
hard for me to ask, and it's hard for me
to say, but the question is thus, and I think
probably people from the country and the city could answer this.
Speaker 5 (09:55):
Is it.
Speaker 9 (09:57):
Acceptable or the proper thing to do to put your
swan dry in the washing machine? Can you wash them?
And I've got a really good reason to ask that question,
because I've got no idea. I've looked at the labels
and I've thought about it, and I've asked people. No
(10:19):
one really can tell me. Is it something you do?
No of these farmers have those sheds of swan driers.
They'll get musty and the dogs sleep on them. But
do you wash them, particularly to keep them away from
the earwigs and the bugs. So if anyone's got an
experience with that, I'll be desperate to hear from you.
That's the best thing I've got because I suspect probably
you can. But I think most manufacturers now say you
(10:42):
can't wash something because they're scared it's going to go
it's going to go badly and then they'll have to
refund you. But yeah, would you wash your swan dry?
And would you do it on the gentle cycle? And
would you put a fabric softer in it? Very straightforward
question from me to you about that one, and the
(11:03):
more the marea that can answer that, not via the text,
via the phone call. Please, I'm sure it's something you
discuss at Young Farmer's Claws. Probably not. Actually, I'm sure
most of the farmers have moved on to Swazi or
something that's made somewhere else.
Speaker 2 (11:17):
Yeah, I don't know if I ever actually had a
genuine Swandreau and I worked on the orchard.
Speaker 3 (11:20):
I think mine was.
Speaker 2 (11:21):
Just like a sort of a weirdhouse knock moss, similar
sort of things, scratchy, itchy, not really waterproof, but kind
of kept you warmer and kind of dry.
Speaker 3 (11:31):
I don't recall ever watching that. I think it is
like it's a bit like a barbecue.
Speaker 2 (11:35):
If you clean it at will, full the pieces and
stop working, that's better. Be my advice for Marcus. I'm
sure he's listening. I think he subscribes and downloads every episode.
Speaker 3 (11:46):
Hello Marcus. I'll be back with more of me and
Marcus tomorrow.
Speaker 7 (11:50):
See then Hu's Talk is Dorks. It been.
Speaker 1 (11:56):
For more from News Talk, said b listen live on
air or online, and keep our shows with you wherever
you go with our podcasts on iHeartRadio.
You're listening to a podcast from News Talk said Be
Follow this and our wide range of podcasts now on iHeartRadio,
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Speaker 2 (00:24):
Hello, my beautiful beanies, and welcome to the bean for Wednesday.
First with yesterday's news, I am Glen Hart, and we
are looking back at Tuesday.
Speaker 3 (00:35):
I fares.
Speaker 2 (00:37):
They are expensive, and it's not exactly clear why funerals
also expenses. We'll hear from somebody who's planning their own.
Speaker 3 (00:49):
And can you.
Speaker 2 (00:51):
Wash a swan dry? So I think that's been on
top of all the way minds, isn't it? Find out
at the end of the podcast. But first up Tory
Funo skipping out of the Miryorkey race and into the
Mighty Ward Race.
Speaker 3 (01:08):
What do we think about this?
Speaker 4 (01:09):
According to her, her reason for giving up the mayoral
race is that she wants to give Andrew Little a
clear runway to win. I mean, come on, doesn't need
you to step aside, lady. She was gonna lose. That's
probably why she quit because Andrew Little, whether you like
as politics or not, is a serious and credible and
smart person and Torri Fano is none of the above. Now, also,
(01:29):
please do not start with this nonsense. Like some commentators
I've noticed in politicians today have done saying that Torri
Fano is quitting because it got too personal and people
have been illogically hateful towards her. Tory was the one
who made it personal. She made this whole thing about
her person and her character. She made on numerous occasions,
she made this about her being a young wahiina mari.
Speaker 5 (01:53):
I mean.
Speaker 4 (01:53):
She was the one who said out loud virtually every
single thing that popped into her head. She blamed her
bad behavior on her ADHD. She blamed her bad behavior
on her alcoholism. She told Paul Keys about needing to
sell her car to pay her mortgage. She told us
about her personal problems as an excuse for being bad
at her job. She told us and reminded us that
(02:14):
she was young and was mauri and was a woman
as an excuse for us being mean to her. Right,
she is the one who did this. The truth is
that being a leader is about what you achieve, absolutely,
but it is also about your character. And frankly, on
both those things, do you think she did well? No,
Tory Farno has been a disappointment, and that is no
one else's fault.
Speaker 2 (02:34):
But Tori's well, I mean she didn't vote herself in.
Let's be completely honest about it. I mean, I'm sure
she voted for herself, but a lot of other people
obviously there's tho so I think.
Speaker 3 (02:47):
They can share a little bit of the blame. I'm
looking at you, Wellington News talk Ze been right. The
cost of air travel it's not going down, is it.
Speaker 5 (02:57):
Here's the thing. If you want to book the main
trunk line, it is relatively inexpensive to do so, providing
you're not booking last minute. There's jets start keeping anyw Zealand. Honest,
that's competition. But if you're flying Ketty Ketty to Dunedin tomorrow.
Speaker 3 (03:11):
Guess what it'll cost you?
Speaker 5 (03:13):
A billion dollars?
Speaker 3 (03:14):
Why?
Speaker 5 (03:14):
Because they're basically got you over a barrel, haven't they?
You need to fly? It's short notice. Business customers normally
booked these flights. Eight thousand people live in Ketty Ketty,
one hundred and thirty thousand in Dunedin. Tourism is seasonal,
these routes are often empty. Air New Zealand has major
aircraft engine issues. The fact is running a profitable airline
(03:38):
in a sparsely populated country is bloody difficult and we
want them to be profitable otherwise we have nowhere line
and then we're a backwater banana republic and the regional
players they're not doing too well either. Air Chathams the
other week, remember this threatening to pull out of Fakatana
unless the council paid for a new cessna. Everyone compares
(04:01):
us to the Ossies. But have a look at outback Queensland.
You pay thousands just to get to Brisbane. Show me
a headline about flights being cheaper from Dunedin to Bali
than Dunedin to Auckland, and I'll show you one about
Mount Isa to Brisbane and Brisbane to Canada. Population matters.
(04:22):
And guess what, We're a blip on the radar. And
as for that promise from a politician that they'll swoop
in and save the day, about as reliable as the
plane schedule itself.
Speaker 2 (04:34):
What a little bit of flying in the last couple
of weeks family trip to Australia. So it wasn't the
regional travel as Ryan was discussing there. But once again
I was struck by why is it so difficult to
get on and off a plane and why is there
so much pilava about it, and why isn't it the
(04:55):
same as riding a bus or a train. It just
it's such a massive step, isn't it. As I stood
there queuing to get on a plane. This is after
you know they'd taken you're boarding parts of the gate
and you're on the air bridge and you're still queuing
to get on the plane. It seems so much harder
to get on and off a plane and go somewhere
(05:16):
than it is to get on and.
Speaker 3 (05:17):
Off the bus. And I don't I'm not quite.
Speaker 1 (05:19):
Sure why use talk seven.
Speaker 3 (05:21):
I'm sure that was top of Therea's line as well,
wasn't it. I'm sure it was.
Speaker 6 (05:27):
It is what it is. It's expensive to run an airline,
really expensive now in the wake of COVID, and it's
all been outlined as to why it's so expensive. Flying
is expensive. We know that we balk at paying the
prices if we can. They will allow some subsidies if
(05:52):
you're going for a funeral, if there's humanitarian reasons for
getting somewhere quickly. In New Zealand can allow for cheaper airfares,
But ultimately do we want the government, that is the
taxpayer subsidizing tian in the aviation industry. I wouldn't have
thought that was a good use of taxpayer money. Why
(06:14):
on earth should other taxpayers who don't fly subsidize those
who want to flit off to Hawk's Bay or Queen's
Town for a jolly. I just don't see why the
government should be interfering with the business of flying planes.
Speaker 3 (06:33):
Well, because governments love interfearing with stuff. I mean they're
interfering like if you if you want to drive from
region to region, they're interfering with that.
Speaker 2 (06:40):
Don't they just charging in working The evs' going to
make that easier, potentially cheaper. Well's that got to do
anything with anything?
Speaker 7 (06:54):
Then?
Speaker 3 (06:54):
You know a good point. I don't know use right now.
Funerals they are I don't know about air travel, but
funerals are expenses, so they have to be.
Speaker 8 (07:07):
He's a blog, he's planning his own I mean, imagine
it's hard for you to talk about with them, but
very hard for the people that love you to discuss
it with you.
Speaker 7 (07:16):
Yeah, yeah, I kind of. I've got a bit of
a weird seas of humor, so I can't and stuff
about it. But you know, it's we We actually found
these books online, my wife did, and they're called When
I Die, and it's I would encourage most people to
actually have a think about it and you just actually
(07:38):
go through this. It's not your will, but it's things
that you want to happen when you die. Do you
want to be cremated?
Speaker 6 (07:45):
You know?
Speaker 7 (07:46):
Do you want to lead your favorite fishing rod to
your best mate or do you think he'll just break
it because he's a usefuls fisherman And all my mates
will be listening to this anyway, So you know, it's
lots of things like that, and just who you think
should be, you know, who you would like to be contacted.
There's a few pages of different things, but you know,
pulling out a book like that, actually it's away some
(08:10):
of the fear of dying.
Speaker 8 (08:11):
I think, yeah, well, yeah, it's hard for hard to
comprehend if you're not in the position that you're in.
But that that seems to make sense to me. And
from your perspective when you say about the cost of
the funeral, when you say you don't want it to
cost a lot, is that because you'd rather money be
spent on the people that are that your loved ones?
Speaker 2 (08:34):
Yeah, yeah, I've always said that I'd like to be
set a drift on a burning funeral raft to the
Viking style. Apparently that's not legal. I don't know how
expensive that would be.
Speaker 3 (08:53):
It would be great to.
Speaker 2 (08:56):
Me.
Speaker 3 (08:56):
I'm such a contrary and I would just love to.
Speaker 2 (09:01):
Leave final wishes that people sing at the at my
funeral who can't sing, who attned it.
Speaker 3 (09:09):
That'd be funny for.
Speaker 2 (09:14):
The eulogies to be delivered by people who are afraid
of publics beaten.
Speaker 3 (09:18):
Just really mess with.
Speaker 1 (09:19):
It, you know, news talk, has it been right?
Speaker 2 (09:24):
Let's finish up with a Kiwi icon the humble swan dry?
And what are the washing instructions exactly?
Speaker 9 (09:32):
And this is probably a question I've never heard asked
on the radio, and it's a question I think goes
to the very core of New Zealand history. And it's
hard for me to ask, and it's hard for me
to say, but the question is thus, and I think
probably people from the country and the city could answer this.
Speaker 5 (09:55):
Is it.
Speaker 9 (09:57):
Acceptable or the proper thing to do to put your
swan dry in the washing machine? Can you wash them?
And I've got a really good reason to ask that question,
because I've got no idea. I've looked at the labels
and I've thought about it, and I've asked people. No
(10:19):
one really can tell me. Is it something you do?
No of these farmers have those sheds of swan driers.
They'll get musty and the dogs sleep on them. But
do you wash them, particularly to keep them away from
the earwigs and the bugs. So if anyone's got an
experience with that, I'll be desperate to hear from you.
That's the best thing I've got because I suspect probably
you can. But I think most manufacturers now say you
(10:42):
can't wash something because they're scared it's going to go
it's going to go badly and then they'll have to
refund you. But yeah, would you wash your swan dry?
And would you do it on the gentle cycle? And
would you put a fabric softer in it? Very straightforward
question from me to you about that one, and the
(11:03):
more the marea that can answer that, not via the text,
via the phone call. Please, I'm sure it's something you
discuss at Young Farmer's Claws. Probably not. Actually, I'm sure
most of the farmers have moved on to Swazi or
something that's made somewhere else.
Speaker 2 (11:17):
Yeah, I don't know if I ever actually had a
genuine Swandreau and I worked on the orchard.
Speaker 3 (11:20):
I think mine was.
Speaker 2 (11:21):
Just like a sort of a weirdhouse knock moss, similar
sort of things, scratchy, itchy, not really waterproof, but kind
of kept you warmer and kind of dry.
Speaker 3 (11:31):
I don't recall ever watching that. I think it is
like it's a bit like a barbecue.
Speaker 2 (11:35):
If you clean it at will, full the pieces and
stop working, that's better. Be my advice for Marcus. I'm
sure he's listening. I think he subscribes and downloads every episode.
Speaker 3 (11:46):
Hello Marcus. I'll be back with more of me and
Marcus tomorrow.
Speaker 7 (11:50):
See then Hu's Talk is Dorks. It been.
Speaker 1 (11:56):
For more from News Talk, said b listen live on
air or online, and keep our shows with you wherever
you go with our podcasts on iHeartRadio.
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