December 8, 2024 • 13 mins
FIRST WITH YESTERDAY'S NEWS (highlights from the weekend on Newstalk ZB) Air New Zealand Has Lost Its Shine/Told You Bootcamps Were a Dumb Idea/A Lot of 25ths Lately/Sir Richard Was Great and He Knows It/Star Starting Out
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Speaker 1 (00:09):
You're listening to a podcast from News Talk, SAIDB follow
this and our wide range of podcasts now on iHeartRadio,
Used Talk SEDB Talk said Hello.
Speaker 2 (00:23):
My beautiful beanies, and welcome to the Bean the Weekend edition.
First for yesterday's news, I am Glenn Hart and we
are looking back at Sunday and Saturday, which is a weekend.
There's gonna be a lot of Franchisca in this because
she did both Saturday and Sunday herself. She was everywhere.
But we're also we need to talk about boot camps
(00:45):
because perhaps they haven't worked as well as as we'd hoped.
The Black Seeds are celebrating twenty five years of a
successful There seems been a lot of twenty five years
of successful album's going on lately. Have you noticed that?
So Richard Hadley, he was very successful at cricket, perhaps
our most successful and yeah, so he was talking about
(01:06):
the what is it called the Hall of Fame or
whatever it is that they've been doing stuff with in Wellington.
Ereta May is a rising star and so she will
have been for as song and a chat at the
end of the podcast. But first Air New Zealand, something's
gone wrong isn't it.
Speaker 3 (01:24):
We all accept airlines can't control weather. That Air New
Zealand has had other issues to grapple with planes out
of action due to high global demand for engine maintenance
meant that ten jets were out of service in the
first half of this financial year. It's not expected that
this will be sorted until twenty twenty six. On top
of this, the travel market has been a mixed bag,
leading the airline to announce this week let's see I
(01:47):
stopp counting the headlines. By this point, they will be
running fewer flights on some domestic routes in twenty twenty five.
Who knows what this will do to the prices. A
one point four percent cancelation rate is actually tiny in
the overall scheme of things, but when combined with all
the other disruptions and the high prices, Air New Zealand
has its challenges cut out for them. For so long,
(02:08):
they have been a beloved New Zealand brand, but since
COVID it's been like pushing a dreamliner uphill? Have you
run out of patients yet? The New Zealand service and
staff may be fabulous, but as long as the fleet
and financials remains under pressure. It looks like it'll be
difficult to quiet those headlines for a while yet.
Speaker 2 (02:31):
So yeah, I think I talked about this last week,
but it was annoying, so I'm going to complain about
it again. Yeah. So I flew down to Wellington last weekend.
Friday evening flight was at an hour late taking off.
Then my flight home was canceled. I've got a notification
(02:54):
about that on Saturday morning for my Sunday afternoon flight.
And so despite the fact that you know they apparently
then had all day to get that plane ready, it
was half an hour late backing off as well. So
it's not quite working.
Speaker 4 (03:10):
Properly if you ask me news Talk, has it been right?
Speaker 5 (03:15):
Now?
Speaker 2 (03:16):
We were going to send all the youth ram raiders
off the boot camp and they would never do anything
wrong in her again, and now we've lost two of them.
Speaker 6 (03:23):
Is that what happened actually just on the absconding when
they're supposed to have wrung a Tamaiki people with them,
And if so, it's sort of part of this problem
on them.
Speaker 4 (03:33):
I think there are some big questions. The Minister won't
be pleased to be able to have to ask for
a start. She was embarrassed when she wasn't even informed
that the second young person had absconded. There's a duty
officials to keep their minister informed. So I think the
whole thing has been a big niss, not just for
(03:53):
the minister but for on a commod EQI as well.
Speaker 6 (03:57):
Is it just a reality that things are going to
go wrong or what are your expectations from the I
don't like to use the word boot camps, but we've
got to find another word for it. But you know
what I mean.
Speaker 4 (04:08):
The military styled training academies is the proper work. But
it's quite long, isn't it. The evidence we've always said
right from the get go is that these models don't work.
They've been trialed in the past and all of the
analysis shows they fail. What does work is programs in
place now like called Tahi Deeficato in South Auckland. We
(04:30):
know that about eighty percent of young people who go
through those programs don't reoffend, and so we should be
keep we should keep doing those programs. And it's really
incumbent upon the government to explain why. I think it's
around thirty six million dollars has been invested into a
pilot where there's just no evidence that it works.
Speaker 2 (04:53):
So not quite the curel. It's almost like everybody's different
and tably dealt with in a different way rather than
just roll out. So kind of couldn't got a solution.
Who you are? I love the word absconding right away?
Is it just baddies to absconde quite after work today?
(05:17):
Can I abscond? And it just means that I've gone home?
Look into that talk sippy? All right? Dan Weatman on
the back seas joining Francesca Saturday morning because they are
celebrating twenty five years of their most successful album. It
sounds like he's good to have the band back together.
Speaker 3 (05:35):
It's a cord of a century overcord of a century.
Speaker 7 (05:39):
I know.
Speaker 8 (05:40):
It's how does that feel? I used to? I think
in the past, I say, I used to feel older,
But you feel proud, and I think that's that's what
takes over. And also we're still creating music because I'm excited.
Just last weekend we're done and Wellington working on album eight.
(06:03):
And if I was coming here and we had were
just celebrating this and that's twenty year and we haven't
done an album in five you know, in a long
period of time, I think it'd be a little bit
depressed about that.
Speaker 9 (06:17):
That's a really good point because as if I think
about bands who are touring, there are a lot of
bands it's sort of entrend at the moment to have
done nothing for ten fifteen years and suddenly, you know,
older bands are hitting the road again, and there seems
to be a bit of a market for that. But
I get I can see that little difference that you've
got there.
Speaker 3 (06:37):
We're still really productive, and we're.
Speaker 8 (06:38):
Still really productive. I'm really excited. I was saying to
the boys about before doing a whole lot of media
to talk about on the sun that I'm just I'm
so energized. My soul is energized from what we did
on the weekend of working on this new album. And
(06:59):
and that's partly before it because it was so productive,
and you know, I'm we're old fellas, and you kind
of start questioning, like where you're at and do we
carry I mean I do. I'm not speaking for the
rest of the guys, but you know, how long do
we do this? But when I come back to the
(07:22):
band and we're all together and we're creating, and people
are bringing ideas. It's just exactly what I need. It's
the medicine that I need.
Speaker 2 (07:32):
Just imaginingmember imagining today. There seems to be a lot
of bands just in the last few months that of
celebrating the twenty fifth anniversary of something, does it mean
that like twenty five years ago, it was just like
the most golden time in New Zealand music in nothing
much as efferensonce speaking of celebrating history, in great moments
(07:53):
in New Zealand history, Richard Hadley, We'll see Richard Hadley
our greatest. He joined Jason Pine as they celebrated the
Hall of Fame, the Cricketing Hall of Fame.
Speaker 10 (08:04):
It seems to me as though when they were putting
together the inaugural inductees was going to be near the
top of the list. How do you reflect on your
cricket career and it's totality first of all, when you
think back to those many great moments.
Speaker 5 (08:17):
Look, I had a wonderful time in the game at
cricket in an eighteen year international career, a twenty year
first class career. Very proud of what I've been able
to achieve. There been a lot of significant milestones personally
but collectively as a team too. Played in an era
in the seventies and eighties when we were doing many
(08:38):
firsts in the history of New Zealand cricket. When you
beat Australia for the first time as we did at
Lancaster part in seventy four, beating England for the first
time at the Base in Reserve and Wellington and seventy eight,
and then we had significant first victories offshore, beating England
in eighty three at Headingly and then we had won
the series there in eighty six and beating Australia and
(09:02):
Australia for the first time in eighty five six the
Gabtez went on to take the series to win. So
those evant first will always outweigh personal milestones, and people
tend to remember when you've done things for the first time.
But as far as runs and wickets, we're concerned if
you play the games and you bowl the balls and
(09:22):
you're going to get wickets. If you're out in there batting,
you're going to accumulate runs. And in my career accumulate
a lot of runs and a lot of wickets, and
I can look back with cond memories and great pride
of what I was able to achieve on an individual days.
Speaker 2 (09:37):
I've always loved that that little hint of arrogance with
Surrected Hadley. He's just not ashamed of telling everybody that
he was actually really good. And I wish that we
had that a.
Speaker 11 (09:55):
Bit more in New Zealand sport across the board, which
we had that little bit more on an actual cricket
team across the weekend losing over three hundred runs with
a fantastic look.
Speaker 2 (10:08):
Friend of Sir Wretchard at.
Speaker 1 (10:09):
The Basin News talk, has it been right?
Speaker 2 (10:13):
So from the star of the past to a star
of the future, Rita May, it sounds like things are
going well for her, and in fact it sounds like
she's going well. In the studio was Francesca and her guitar.
Speaker 9 (10:28):
You grew up in a house filled with music and
this is going to aige me terribly. But your father
was a member of the Jean Paul Satra Experience, which
I saw under age at the Carlton Hotel in christ Church. Gosh,
what would have that been in late eighties?
Speaker 3 (10:43):
Maybe yeah, yeah, cute.
Speaker 9 (10:46):
So obviously music's very much been a part of your life.
Speaker 12 (10:50):
Definitely, yeah, and mom and dad like it was just
sort of the culture of our household I think was
just playing music and singing, and I feel like me
and my sisters were kind of writing attempting to write
songs from like primary.
Speaker 9 (11:08):
School sort of age.
Speaker 12 (11:10):
Like it was just sort of just felt like the
thing you do. It wasn't this thing that we're like, oh,
we're going to learn to write songs now. It's just
we were around.
Speaker 3 (11:18):
Like we're going to be Taylor Swift.
Speaker 9 (11:19):
It was, oh, there was a phase of that.
Speaker 12 (11:22):
I wanted to be Taylor Swift at one point, but yeah,
it was kind of just this like Dad was always
writing and playing guitar and stuff, so we were like
we want to do.
Speaker 9 (11:31):
That too, and performing. Did that always come naturally to
you or did you have a bit of performance anxiety?
Speaker 12 (11:39):
I think performing the performing anxiety, I know. I don't
think there was even really a thing, like nerves were
a thing. But I was always pretty keen to play
my little songs on stage. My primary school actually had
lots of had a really amazing music teacher that she
did like band nights and stuff where you write your
(12:01):
song and perform for the whole school. And I was
always so keen to do that, like it was scary,
but it's always been pretty fun. I think I've always
liked the attention quite a bit.
Speaker 9 (12:12):
Well, in that case, we'll get you to perform for us.
Got on and let's whip out a little performance here.
Speaker 3 (12:18):
What are you going to perform for us?
Speaker 12 (12:19):
I'm going to perform when you Go, which is the
last single from a EP that came out recently, very recently.
Speaker 2 (12:28):
I love it right, let's do it.
Speaker 12 (12:30):
Sooted blacklevilic.
Speaker 6 (12:39):
Bathing.
Speaker 7 (12:41):
There we go, reader, may there.
Speaker 2 (12:53):
Bringing the week into a musical close APPOSTI actually didn't
it was Saturday morning? Was it yesterday? The confusing Francisco
hosts for both mornings? And yes, we are getting into
that time, different hosts covering different shows. You know what
it's like you probably you're probably covering from somebody else
(13:14):
who's already gone on holiday. Boy, they're about to cover
for you. That's how it goes, and it mon't be
stressful at all for everyone, and we'll all head into
the Christmas break feeling lovely and rested and not stressed out.
Isn't it great? I am clean heart, I'm so relaxed
and I'll see you back here again tomorrow with another
News Talks head being News Talking Talking Has it been
(13:39):
so again?
Speaker 1 (13:44):
That's at For more from News Talks at b Listen
live on air or online, and keep our shows with
you wherever you go with our podcast on iHeartRadio
You're listening to a podcast from News Talk, SAIDB follow
this and our wide range of podcasts now on iHeartRadio,
Used Talk SEDB Talk said Hello.
Speaker 2 (00:23):
My beautiful beanies, and welcome to the Bean the Weekend edition.
First for yesterday's news, I am Glenn Hart and we
are looking back at Sunday and Saturday, which is a weekend.
There's gonna be a lot of Franchisca in this because
she did both Saturday and Sunday herself. She was everywhere.
But we're also we need to talk about boot camps
(00:45):
because perhaps they haven't worked as well as as we'd hoped.
The Black Seeds are celebrating twenty five years of a
successful There seems been a lot of twenty five years
of successful album's going on lately. Have you noticed that?
So Richard Hadley, he was very successful at cricket, perhaps
our most successful and yeah, so he was talking about
(01:06):
the what is it called the Hall of Fame or
whatever it is that they've been doing stuff with in Wellington.
Ereta May is a rising star and so she will
have been for as song and a chat at the
end of the podcast. But first Air New Zealand, something's
gone wrong isn't it.
Speaker 3 (01:24):
We all accept airlines can't control weather. That Air New
Zealand has had other issues to grapple with planes out
of action due to high global demand for engine maintenance
meant that ten jets were out of service in the
first half of this financial year. It's not expected that
this will be sorted until twenty twenty six. On top
of this, the travel market has been a mixed bag,
leading the airline to announce this week let's see I
(01:47):
stopp counting the headlines. By this point, they will be
running fewer flights on some domestic routes in twenty twenty five.
Who knows what this will do to the prices. A
one point four percent cancelation rate is actually tiny in
the overall scheme of things, but when combined with all
the other disruptions and the high prices, Air New Zealand
has its challenges cut out for them. For so long,
(02:08):
they have been a beloved New Zealand brand, but since
COVID it's been like pushing a dreamliner uphill? Have you
run out of patients yet? The New Zealand service and
staff may be fabulous, but as long as the fleet
and financials remains under pressure. It looks like it'll be
difficult to quiet those headlines for a while yet.
Speaker 2 (02:31):
So yeah, I think I talked about this last week,
but it was annoying, so I'm going to complain about
it again. Yeah. So I flew down to Wellington last weekend.
Friday evening flight was at an hour late taking off.
Then my flight home was canceled. I've got a notification
(02:54):
about that on Saturday morning for my Sunday afternoon flight.
And so despite the fact that you know they apparently
then had all day to get that plane ready, it
was half an hour late backing off as well. So
it's not quite working.
Speaker 4 (03:10):
Properly if you ask me news Talk, has it been right?
Speaker 5 (03:15):
Now?
Speaker 2 (03:16):
We were going to send all the youth ram raiders
off the boot camp and they would never do anything
wrong in her again, and now we've lost two of them.
Speaker 6 (03:23):
Is that what happened actually just on the absconding when
they're supposed to have wrung a Tamaiki people with them,
And if so, it's sort of part of this problem
on them.
Speaker 4 (03:33):
I think there are some big questions. The Minister won't
be pleased to be able to have to ask for
a start. She was embarrassed when she wasn't even informed
that the second young person had absconded. There's a duty
officials to keep their minister informed. So I think the
whole thing has been a big niss, not just for
(03:53):
the minister but for on a commod EQI as well.
Speaker 6 (03:57):
Is it just a reality that things are going to
go wrong or what are your expectations from the I
don't like to use the word boot camps, but we've
got to find another word for it. But you know
what I mean.
Speaker 4 (04:08):
The military styled training academies is the proper work. But
it's quite long, isn't it. The evidence we've always said
right from the get go is that these models don't work.
They've been trialed in the past and all of the
analysis shows they fail. What does work is programs in
place now like called Tahi Deeficato in South Auckland. We
(04:30):
know that about eighty percent of young people who go
through those programs don't reoffend, and so we should be
keep we should keep doing those programs. And it's really
incumbent upon the government to explain why. I think it's
around thirty six million dollars has been invested into a
pilot where there's just no evidence that it works.
Speaker 2 (04:53):
So not quite the curel. It's almost like everybody's different
and tably dealt with in a different way rather than
just roll out. So kind of couldn't got a solution.
Who you are? I love the word absconding right away?
Is it just baddies to absconde quite after work today?
(05:17):
Can I abscond? And it just means that I've gone home?
Look into that talk sippy? All right? Dan Weatman on
the back seas joining Francesca Saturday morning because they are
celebrating twenty five years of their most successful album. It
sounds like he's good to have the band back together.
Speaker 3 (05:35):
It's a cord of a century overcord of a century.
Speaker 7 (05:39):
I know.
Speaker 8 (05:40):
It's how does that feel? I used to? I think
in the past, I say, I used to feel older,
But you feel proud, and I think that's that's what
takes over. And also we're still creating music because I'm excited.
Just last weekend we're done and Wellington working on album eight.
(06:03):
And if I was coming here and we had were
just celebrating this and that's twenty year and we haven't
done an album in five you know, in a long
period of time, I think it'd be a little bit
depressed about that.
Speaker 9 (06:17):
That's a really good point because as if I think
about bands who are touring, there are a lot of
bands it's sort of entrend at the moment to have
done nothing for ten fifteen years and suddenly, you know,
older bands are hitting the road again, and there seems
to be a bit of a market for that. But
I get I can see that little difference that you've
got there.
Speaker 3 (06:37):
We're still really productive, and we're.
Speaker 8 (06:38):
Still really productive. I'm really excited. I was saying to
the boys about before doing a whole lot of media
to talk about on the sun that I'm just I'm
so energized. My soul is energized from what we did
on the weekend of working on this new album. And
(06:59):
and that's partly before it because it was so productive,
and you know, I'm we're old fellas, and you kind
of start questioning, like where you're at and do we
carry I mean I do. I'm not speaking for the
rest of the guys, but you know, how long do
we do this? But when I come back to the
(07:22):
band and we're all together and we're creating, and people
are bringing ideas. It's just exactly what I need. It's
the medicine that I need.
Speaker 2 (07:32):
Just imaginingmember imagining today. There seems to be a lot
of bands just in the last few months that of
celebrating the twenty fifth anniversary of something, does it mean
that like twenty five years ago, it was just like
the most golden time in New Zealand music in nothing
much as efferensonce speaking of celebrating history, in great moments
(07:53):
in New Zealand history, Richard Hadley, We'll see Richard Hadley
our greatest. He joined Jason Pine as they celebrated the
Hall of Fame, the Cricketing Hall of Fame.
Speaker 10 (08:04):
It seems to me as though when they were putting
together the inaugural inductees was going to be near the
top of the list. How do you reflect on your
cricket career and it's totality first of all, when you
think back to those many great moments.
Speaker 5 (08:17):
Look, I had a wonderful time in the game at
cricket in an eighteen year international career, a twenty year
first class career. Very proud of what I've been able
to achieve. There been a lot of significant milestones personally
but collectively as a team too. Played in an era
in the seventies and eighties when we were doing many
(08:38):
firsts in the history of New Zealand cricket. When you
beat Australia for the first time as we did at
Lancaster part in seventy four, beating England for the first
time at the Base in Reserve and Wellington and seventy eight,
and then we had significant first victories offshore, beating England
in eighty three at Headingly and then we had won
the series there in eighty six and beating Australia and
(09:02):
Australia for the first time in eighty five six the
Gabtez went on to take the series to win. So
those evant first will always outweigh personal milestones, and people
tend to remember when you've done things for the first time.
But as far as runs and wickets, we're concerned if
you play the games and you bowl the balls and
(09:22):
you're going to get wickets. If you're out in there batting,
you're going to accumulate runs. And in my career accumulate
a lot of runs and a lot of wickets, and
I can look back with cond memories and great pride
of what I was able to achieve on an individual days.
Speaker 2 (09:37):
I've always loved that that little hint of arrogance with
Surrected Hadley. He's just not ashamed of telling everybody that
he was actually really good. And I wish that we
had that a.
Speaker 11 (09:55):
Bit more in New Zealand sport across the board, which
we had that little bit more on an actual cricket
team across the weekend losing over three hundred runs with
a fantastic look.
Speaker 2 (10:08):
Friend of Sir Wretchard at.
Speaker 1 (10:09):
The Basin News talk, has it been right?
Speaker 2 (10:13):
So from the star of the past to a star
of the future, Rita May, it sounds like things are
going well for her, and in fact it sounds like
she's going well. In the studio was Francesca and her guitar.
Speaker 9 (10:28):
You grew up in a house filled with music and
this is going to aige me terribly. But your father
was a member of the Jean Paul Satra Experience, which
I saw under age at the Carlton Hotel in christ Church. Gosh,
what would have that been in late eighties?
Speaker 3 (10:43):
Maybe yeah, yeah, cute.
Speaker 9 (10:46):
So obviously music's very much been a part of your life.
Speaker 12 (10:50):
Definitely, yeah, and mom and dad like it was just
sort of the culture of our household I think was
just playing music and singing, and I feel like me
and my sisters were kind of writing attempting to write
songs from like primary.
Speaker 9 (11:08):
School sort of age.
Speaker 12 (11:10):
Like it was just sort of just felt like the
thing you do. It wasn't this thing that we're like, oh,
we're going to learn to write songs now. It's just
we were around.
Speaker 3 (11:18):
Like we're going to be Taylor Swift.
Speaker 9 (11:19):
It was, oh, there was a phase of that.
Speaker 12 (11:22):
I wanted to be Taylor Swift at one point, but yeah,
it was kind of just this like Dad was always
writing and playing guitar and stuff, so we were like
we want to do.
Speaker 9 (11:31):
That too, and performing. Did that always come naturally to
you or did you have a bit of performance anxiety?
Speaker 12 (11:39):
I think performing the performing anxiety, I know. I don't
think there was even really a thing, like nerves were
a thing. But I was always pretty keen to play
my little songs on stage. My primary school actually had
lots of had a really amazing music teacher that she
did like band nights and stuff where you write your
(12:01):
song and perform for the whole school. And I was
always so keen to do that, like it was scary,
but it's always been pretty fun. I think I've always
liked the attention quite a bit.
Speaker 9 (12:12):
Well, in that case, we'll get you to perform for us.
Got on and let's whip out a little performance here.
Speaker 3 (12:18):
What are you going to perform for us?
Speaker 12 (12:19):
I'm going to perform when you Go, which is the
last single from a EP that came out recently, very recently.
Speaker 2 (12:28):
I love it right, let's do it.
Speaker 12 (12:30):
Sooted blacklevilic.
Speaker 6 (12:39):
Bathing.
Speaker 7 (12:41):
There we go, reader, may there.
Speaker 2 (12:53):
Bringing the week into a musical close APPOSTI actually didn't
it was Saturday morning? Was it yesterday? The confusing Francisco
hosts for both mornings? And yes, we are getting into
that time, different hosts covering different shows. You know what
it's like you probably you're probably covering from somebody else
(13:14):
who's already gone on holiday. Boy, they're about to cover
for you. That's how it goes, and it mon't be
stressful at all for everyone, and we'll all head into
the Christmas break feeling lovely and rested and not stressed out.
Isn't it great? I am clean heart, I'm so relaxed
and I'll see you back here again tomorrow with another
News Talks head being News Talking Talking Has it been
(13:39):
so again?
Speaker 1 (13:44):
That's at For more from News Talks at b Listen
live on air or online, and keep our shows with
you wherever you go with our podcast on iHeartRadio
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