July 14, 2024 • 11 mins
FIRST WITH YESTERDAY'S NEWS (highlights from the weekend on Newstalk ZB) Hard to See Biden Winning After This/Why Is Cook Strait Suddenly So Hard?/Being a Barrett/Too Old to Dance
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Speaker 1 (00:09):
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Speaker 2 (00:22):
Good morning, my beautiful beanies, and welcome to the Being
the Weekend Edition. First with yesterday's news, I am Glen Hart,
and we are looking back at Saturday Sunday, Sunday Saturday.
It gives a confusing when you look back. The inter
islander is just Is and die straits. I don't know,
it doesn't seem to be in cook straight, but certainly
(00:43):
Die strates. We'll check in with the Barrett family. What
will what would we do without the Barrett say? And
shape Shifter turns a quarter of a century old. But
before any of that, talk about you, before and after
stories Biden, Ay and then Trump. Exciting, exciting weekend. So
(01:07):
let's talk about Let's focus on Joe Biden.
Speaker 3 (01:10):
First, his first solo press conference in eight months. That
fact alone tells you more about Biden's state and capacity
than anything else you need to know. So NATO's done.
The Democrats convention is next month. If they're going to
force them out, this is the window, this is the
(01:30):
time to do it. They've got a few weeks to act.
Got to say two weeks deep, it is clear this story,
this issue are not going away. With every bad poll,
every donor with cold feet, the pressure is sustained that
little bit longer, and fundamentally, the news is not going
to move on because the problem has not gone away.
(01:52):
And here's the thing, it won't go away. To campaign
for president, you have to be out in public day
after day after day. It requires vast energy. It would
be exhausting for anyone. But you can be sure there
will be more. There will be more blunders, there will
be more moments of utter incoherence, and with every instance,
(02:16):
voters will be left wondering if this is Biden. Now,
how's he going to be in another for you?
Speaker 2 (02:23):
Yeah, well, let's just see if we can get him
through to the end of the year first, of course,
and now that was what happened yesterday. I guess Biden's
going to have to survive his own assassination attempt to
get back in the races.
Speaker 4 (02:41):
That does.
Speaker 2 (02:42):
I mean, you know, all I'm seeing on all the
TV screens I'm looking at is Trump with this first
punt in the year, with bloodle over his face. Looks
like he's just won the heavyweight championship of the world.
I guess he kind of has.
Speaker 5 (02:52):
What does this mean for the remainder of this presidential campaign?
It has been an extraordinary shocking day in American politics.
Could this hand Donald Trump the presidency?
Speaker 6 (03:04):
Well, first of all, it is a very dark moment
in American politics. And in the short term, this attempted
assassination and we don't know the circumstances. We know that
the person concerned the shooter is now dead, but we
don't know the circumstances, the motivation, and the links that
(03:25):
this person may have may have had. So there's a
lot to be uncovered yet. But in the short term,
just on a human level, I think there will be
a boost for mister Trump in terms of many people
sympathetic that he's been subject to a brutal act of violence,
(03:45):
which thankfully was unsuccessful. But America does have a bit
of a tradition of political violence. The last president to
face this type advance was Ronald Reagan in nineteen eighty one,
when he narrowly escaped with his life and went on
to serve the second term. So in the short term,
I think there'll be a groundswell of support and sympathy
(04:08):
from Trump which could help him in the election, And
a lot will depend, of course, on how President Biden
responds also, and he has already responded and sent his
support and said he will be speaking to mister Trump
and condemned without reservation this shocking incident.
Speaker 2 (04:26):
Yeah, I don't think he was going to come out
and say that he was for it, so that really
would have been a bad look for him. News Talk, Right,
So Trump's fine, The enterre Islander not so much. Is
it on dead Stoor? And if so, what do we
do next?
Speaker 7 (04:46):
It suddenly looks comical, like say, taking bolts out of
a power tower and then watching it fall over. None
of us are perfect. We are human. We all do
silly things at times. For a while, I had a
habit of driving off with a cup of tea on
the roof of my car. Hence my children gave me
a plastic keep cup. But some mistakes have a greater
(05:07):
impact and others, so I'm not surprised. The question has
been asked where the key we rail should continue running
the fairies, but if not them, who and how we're
going to deal with the replacement of the fairies and
the land side infrastructure. A big picture plan needs to
be in place before we start making other changes like
creating a new entity to run the fairies. It is
(05:28):
clearly a complex business with specific challenges, and maybe those
who know it best should hold the reins for a
little longer until we know where the business is heading.
The government received a report from the Independent Ferry Advisory
Group a few weeks ago. Decisions are yet to be
made about the recommendations it contains. Once that's done, it
(05:49):
will have to go to Cabinet, so it may take
some time. But the government scrap the previous plan, so
the onus is on them to get moving. In the meantime, though,
I suggest into Ireland, I just step up, own up,
do themselves a favor, move on from the grounding.
Speaker 2 (06:04):
We're still so confused about all these troubles. These fears
isn't had lately. I feel like they ran for decades
and the only real trouble was when the workers went
on strip. But I mean, obviously you know the Wahini
wasn't its greatest day. But ever, you know, between then
(06:26):
and about I don't know, four or five years ago,
and suddenly we can't sail a boat across cook straight,
what's going on?
Speaker 8 (06:36):
Talk s all right?
Speaker 2 (06:38):
So this weekend I did actually watch the rugby and
it was a very sea sawing sort of a match,
very chance affair and then one be Barrett from the
field and changed everything simplehendedly it was it was crazy
and his dad was watching.
Speaker 9 (06:59):
How do you go watching your son's play in tight
test matches like last weekend in Dunedin and then again
last night you could have.
Speaker 4 (07:08):
To in pary. Yeah, well I'm usually just say so
the last few years have been pretty been well not crazy,
but you know, you always always got a few nerves
going in and obviously you want to get a few
points on the board and that's sort of that your
nerves go away. But either be honest, the last few
weeks with just scrotch scrot getting the captaincy and with
(07:31):
the last week having a first Test that got the
first to your nation England, well you know it's the
first game is new new captain in the new coach
years and wasn't a given so you full full groups
of the boys, they it wasn't yeah, I mean what
(07:55):
was what? What wasn't pretty at times? But they got
the winner. That's all I made.
Speaker 9 (07:58):
Is Are you able to watch rugby as a as
a fan like the rest of us, or is it
always as a parent?
Speaker 4 (08:06):
Yeah? I think yeah, it's just a pean really, I
mean I just think of yeah, I mean I just
don't want the book. You just think of the worst
case scenario of there of you know, I think back
to was it last year the year before the Venem
and Boden took their high ball in South Africa and
come down on his on the backer's head, you know,
(08:28):
on his neck, and you just think the worst, you know,
and he was a miracle that he had no no damage,
you know, an he'd carry on playing.
Speaker 2 (08:36):
See where you when you hear them describe that, it
makes think probab stupid, isn't it? And then you forget
about it and he moves on. It's like bombarded news
talk has it been? I'm going to finish up here
with Nick Robinson of Shakespeare Shift. Can you believe Shake Shift?
That is five years old?
Speaker 3 (08:59):
I'm just going to say this as someone who has
been around and enjoying your music for all of those
twenty five years, Dear, I asked, does it make you
feel a little bit? I don't know.
Speaker 8 (09:10):
Yeah, it does, and you know, like sort of building
up to this twenty five year thing, it was almost like, oh,
you know that is that a good look? Are we
too old?
Speaker 1 (09:21):
You know?
Speaker 8 (09:22):
Like, you know, I don't feel old.
Speaker 3 (09:25):
I don't think you're old. I don't think you're old.
I don't think shapes disolved. No, no, no, But I
mean that this is the thing right Like we're looking
at the twenty fifth anniversary and considering, you know, what
you guys have achieved over the last couple of decades.
It's it is a pretty like substantial achievement. Can you
can you distill the success for us?
Speaker 6 (09:46):
Why?
Speaker 3 (09:47):
You know, why do you think we are here after
twenty five years of music, still celebrating Shape Shifter?
Speaker 6 (09:54):
Yeah, I think ferously.
Speaker 8 (09:55):
I just reaching the twenty five years is probably the
proudest thing we've all felt the whole time, just actually
being able to stay together and remain such good friends.
And you know, we're more than friends, We're family. And
I think you know, our relationship as a band has
been what's got us through, and it's it's you know,
(10:17):
we all respect each other so much as musicians and
as friends, we're willing to flex. There's no ego there,
so I think we can sort of bounce off each
other and get the best results, and you know, really
sort of it's just been so enjoyable.
Speaker 2 (10:32):
It's funny, isn't it, because you know, obviously the style
of music and that's it's it's But at twenty five,
at age twenty five, you're definitely into generation, or aren't
you at that point? So you've got mums and dads
dance partying away with dads who are probably in their twenties.
(10:58):
It's uncomfortable situation, certainly for the kids, probably less over
the mumps, and dads don't care anymore, do they. I
am not a dance part of here, so I won't
be out late tonight and I'll be back bright nearly
tomorrow with another Newsbalk big thank you.
Speaker 1 (11:18):
News Talk is Talking zid bean. For more from news
Talk sid B, listen live on air or online, and
keep our shows with you wherever you go with our
podcasts on iHeartRadio
You're listening to a podcast from news Talk said b
follow this and our wide range of podcasts now on iHeartRadio.
Used Talk said you talk.
Speaker 2 (00:22):
Good morning, my beautiful beanies, and welcome to the Being
the Weekend Edition. First with yesterday's news, I am Glen Hart,
and we are looking back at Saturday Sunday, Sunday Saturday.
It gives a confusing when you look back. The inter
islander is just Is and die straits. I don't know,
it doesn't seem to be in cook straight, but certainly
(00:43):
Die strates. We'll check in with the Barrett family. What
will what would we do without the Barrett say? And
shape Shifter turns a quarter of a century old. But
before any of that, talk about you, before and after
stories Biden, Ay and then Trump. Exciting, exciting weekend. So
(01:07):
let's talk about Let's focus on Joe Biden.
Speaker 3 (01:10):
First, his first solo press conference in eight months. That
fact alone tells you more about Biden's state and capacity
than anything else you need to know. So NATO's done.
The Democrats convention is next month. If they're going to
force them out, this is the window, this is the
(01:30):
time to do it. They've got a few weeks to act.
Got to say two weeks deep, it is clear this story,
this issue are not going away. With every bad poll,
every donor with cold feet, the pressure is sustained that
little bit longer, and fundamentally, the news is not going
to move on because the problem has not gone away.
(01:52):
And here's the thing, it won't go away. To campaign
for president, you have to be out in public day
after day after day. It requires vast energy. It would
be exhausting for anyone. But you can be sure there
will be more. There will be more blunders, there will
be more moments of utter incoherence, and with every instance,
(02:16):
voters will be left wondering if this is Biden. Now,
how's he going to be in another for you?
Speaker 2 (02:23):
Yeah, well, let's just see if we can get him
through to the end of the year first, of course,
and now that was what happened yesterday. I guess Biden's
going to have to survive his own assassination attempt to
get back in the races.
Speaker 4 (02:41):
That does.
Speaker 2 (02:42):
I mean, you know, all I'm seeing on all the
TV screens I'm looking at is Trump with this first
punt in the year, with bloodle over his face. Looks
like he's just won the heavyweight championship of the world.
I guess he kind of has.
Speaker 5 (02:52):
What does this mean for the remainder of this presidential campaign?
It has been an extraordinary shocking day in American politics.
Could this hand Donald Trump the presidency?
Speaker 6 (03:04):
Well, first of all, it is a very dark moment
in American politics. And in the short term, this attempted
assassination and we don't know the circumstances. We know that
the person concerned the shooter is now dead, but we
don't know the circumstances, the motivation, and the links that
(03:25):
this person may have may have had. So there's a
lot to be uncovered yet. But in the short term,
just on a human level, I think there will be
a boost for mister Trump in terms of many people
sympathetic that he's been subject to a brutal act of violence,
(03:45):
which thankfully was unsuccessful. But America does have a bit
of a tradition of political violence. The last president to
face this type advance was Ronald Reagan in nineteen eighty one,
when he narrowly escaped with his life and went on
to serve the second term. So in the short term,
I think there'll be a groundswell of support and sympathy
(04:08):
from Trump which could help him in the election, And
a lot will depend, of course, on how President Biden
responds also, and he has already responded and sent his
support and said he will be speaking to mister Trump
and condemned without reservation this shocking incident.
Speaker 2 (04:26):
Yeah, I don't think he was going to come out
and say that he was for it, so that really
would have been a bad look for him. News Talk, Right,
So Trump's fine, The enterre Islander not so much. Is
it on dead Stoor? And if so, what do we
do next?
Speaker 7 (04:46):
It suddenly looks comical, like say, taking bolts out of
a power tower and then watching it fall over. None
of us are perfect. We are human. We all do
silly things at times. For a while, I had a
habit of driving off with a cup of tea on
the roof of my car. Hence my children gave me
a plastic keep cup. But some mistakes have a greater
(05:07):
impact and others, so I'm not surprised. The question has
been asked where the key we rail should continue running
the fairies, but if not them, who and how we're
going to deal with the replacement of the fairies and
the land side infrastructure. A big picture plan needs to
be in place before we start making other changes like
creating a new entity to run the fairies. It is
(05:28):
clearly a complex business with specific challenges, and maybe those
who know it best should hold the reins for a
little longer until we know where the business is heading.
The government received a report from the Independent Ferry Advisory
Group a few weeks ago. Decisions are yet to be
made about the recommendations it contains. Once that's done, it
(05:49):
will have to go to Cabinet, so it may take
some time. But the government scrap the previous plan, so
the onus is on them to get moving. In the meantime, though,
I suggest into Ireland, I just step up, own up,
do themselves a favor, move on from the grounding.
Speaker 2 (06:04):
We're still so confused about all these troubles. These fears
isn't had lately. I feel like they ran for decades
and the only real trouble was when the workers went
on strip. But I mean, obviously you know the Wahini
wasn't its greatest day. But ever, you know, between then
(06:26):
and about I don't know, four or five years ago,
and suddenly we can't sail a boat across cook straight,
what's going on?
Speaker 8 (06:36):
Talk s all right?
Speaker 2 (06:38):
So this weekend I did actually watch the rugby and
it was a very sea sawing sort of a match,
very chance affair and then one be Barrett from the
field and changed everything simplehendedly it was it was crazy
and his dad was watching.
Speaker 9 (06:59):
How do you go watching your son's play in tight
test matches like last weekend in Dunedin and then again
last night you could have.
Speaker 4 (07:08):
To in pary. Yeah, well I'm usually just say so
the last few years have been pretty been well not crazy,
but you know, you always always got a few nerves
going in and obviously you want to get a few
points on the board and that's sort of that your
nerves go away. But either be honest, the last few
weeks with just scrotch scrot getting the captaincy and with
(07:31):
the last week having a first Test that got the
first to your nation England, well you know it's the
first game is new new captain in the new coach
years and wasn't a given so you full full groups
of the boys, they it wasn't yeah, I mean what
(07:55):
was what? What wasn't pretty at times? But they got
the winner. That's all I made.
Speaker 9 (07:58):
Is Are you able to watch rugby as a as
a fan like the rest of us, or is it
always as a parent?
Speaker 4 (08:06):
Yeah? I think yeah, it's just a pean really, I
mean I just think of yeah, I mean I just
don't want the book. You just think of the worst
case scenario of there of you know, I think back
to was it last year the year before the Venem
and Boden took their high ball in South Africa and
come down on his on the backer's head, you know,
(08:28):
on his neck, and you just think the worst, you know,
and he was a miracle that he had no no damage,
you know, an he'd carry on playing.
Speaker 2 (08:36):
See where you when you hear them describe that, it
makes think probab stupid, isn't it? And then you forget
about it and he moves on. It's like bombarded news
talk has it been? I'm going to finish up here
with Nick Robinson of Shakespeare Shift. Can you believe Shake Shift?
That is five years old?
Speaker 3 (08:59):
I'm just going to say this as someone who has
been around and enjoying your music for all of those
twenty five years, Dear, I asked, does it make you
feel a little bit? I don't know.
Speaker 8 (09:10):
Yeah, it does, and you know, like sort of building
up to this twenty five year thing, it was almost like, oh,
you know that is that a good look? Are we
too old?
Speaker 1 (09:21):
You know?
Speaker 8 (09:22):
Like, you know, I don't feel old.
Speaker 3 (09:25):
I don't think you're old. I don't think you're old.
I don't think shapes disolved. No, no, no, But I
mean that this is the thing right Like we're looking
at the twenty fifth anniversary and considering, you know, what
you guys have achieved over the last couple of decades.
It's it is a pretty like substantial achievement. Can you
can you distill the success for us?
Speaker 6 (09:46):
Why?
Speaker 3 (09:47):
You know, why do you think we are here after
twenty five years of music, still celebrating Shape Shifter?
Speaker 6 (09:54):
Yeah, I think ferously.
Speaker 8 (09:55):
I just reaching the twenty five years is probably the
proudest thing we've all felt the whole time, just actually
being able to stay together and remain such good friends.
And you know, we're more than friends, We're family. And
I think you know, our relationship as a band has
been what's got us through, and it's it's you know,
(10:17):
we all respect each other so much as musicians and
as friends, we're willing to flex. There's no ego there,
so I think we can sort of bounce off each
other and get the best results, and you know, really
sort of it's just been so enjoyable.
Speaker 2 (10:32):
It's funny, isn't it, because you know, obviously the style
of music and that's it's it's But at twenty five,
at age twenty five, you're definitely into generation, or aren't
you at that point? So you've got mums and dads
dance partying away with dads who are probably in their twenties.
(10:58):
It's uncomfortable situation, certainly for the kids, probably less over
the mumps, and dads don't care anymore, do they. I
am not a dance part of here, so I won't
be out late tonight and I'll be back bright nearly
tomorrow with another Newsbalk big thank you.
Speaker 1 (11:18):
News Talk is Talking zid bean. For more from news
Talk sid B, listen live on air or online, and
keep our shows with you wherever you go with our
podcasts on iHeartRadio
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